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One, two, three, four. 2 00:00:28,195 --> 00:00:33,325 ♪ You'd think that people would've had enough of silly love songs ♪ 3 00:00:35,953 --> 00:00:41,876 ♪ But I look around me, and I see it isn't so ♪ 4 00:00:43,919 --> 00:00:49,133 ♪ Some people want to fill the world with silly love songs ♪ 5 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:53,304 ♪ And what's wrong with that? ♪♪ 6 00:00:59,477 --> 00:01:02,146 What's the most important thing that you value? 7 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:08,068 Just personal peace. 8 00:01:09,904 --> 00:01:11,989 Can you develop that a little more fuller? 9 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:13,157 Not really. 10 00:01:15,201 --> 00:01:17,995 Okay. 11 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:20,956 You know, we've just gone around, like, for an hour with nothing. 12 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:26,253 Yeah, I know. 13 00:01:26,337 --> 00:01:27,880 But let's sort of move on now. 14 00:01:27,963 --> 00:01:31,133 That's the-the only time that works, really, is on the last line. 15 00:01:31,217 --> 00:01:33,177 Paul, forget the last line. 16 00:01:35,721 --> 00:01:39,809 If I hear someone damning Paul McCartney, 17 00:01:39,892 --> 00:01:41,936 I tend to agree with them. 18 00:01:43,354 --> 00:01:46,732 So when everyone was saying I broke up the Beatles 19 00:01:46,816 --> 00:01:50,611 and I was just overbearing and all of that, 20 00:01:50,694 --> 00:01:52,863 I kind of bought into it. 21 00:01:54,406 --> 00:01:57,493 I thought, "That's, you know, the kind of bastard I am." 22 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:02,331 It leaves you in this kind of no-man's-land. 23 00:02:09,588 --> 00:02:12,508 But, um, the truth. 24 00:02:12,591 --> 00:02:16,887 John had come in one day and said he was leaving the Beatles. 25 00:02:16,971 --> 00:02:19,181 He said, "It's kind of exciting. 26 00:02:19,265 --> 00:02:23,060 It's like telling someone you want a divorce." 27 00:02:24,812 --> 00:02:29,441 But, uh, I was thinking, "What do I do now?" 28 00:02:29,525 --> 00:02:32,736 Because it'd been my whole life, really. 29 00:02:32,820 --> 00:02:37,783 You know, I've had growing up, going to school, and then becoming the Beatles. 30 00:02:39,201 --> 00:02:42,621 It was a puzzle I had to kind of unravel. 31 00:02:55,009 --> 00:02:56,760 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 32 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:59,138 ♪ All right ♪ 33 00:02:59,221 --> 00:03:04,059 ♪ Are you gonna be in my dreams tonight? ♪ 34 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:11,275 You can be big headed and say, "Yeah, we're gonna last ten years." 35 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:13,158 You know, we're lucky if we last three months. 36 00:03:16,405 --> 00:03:18,490 The Beatles! 37 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:30,544 ♪ Love you, love you... 38 00:03:30,628 --> 00:03:33,881 We can't keep playing the same sort of music until we're 40. 39 00:03:33,964 --> 00:03:36,926 Who knows? At 40, we may not know how to write songs anymore. 40 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:19,760 ♪ And in the end ♪♪ 41 00:04:47,413 --> 00:04:50,207 It is 22 before the hour of 1:00. 42 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:52,918 There is something strange going on with the Beatles. 43 00:04:53,002 --> 00:04:55,212 The fact that the Beatle Paul may be dead. 44 00:04:57,548 --> 00:05:00,592 The past few weeks, the question "Is Paul McCartney dead?" 45 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:04,430 Has made headlines across the United States and around the world. 46 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:07,558 The Beatles are actually gathered around what looks like a grave. 47 00:05:07,641 --> 00:05:10,394 On the back of the album, Paul has his back to us. 48 00:05:10,477 --> 00:05:13,856 There was even one report that McCartney was killed three years ago 49 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:17,317 in an auto accident and a double put in his place. 50 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,779 Michael McGear, is your brother 51 00:05:20,863 --> 00:05:22,364 Paul McCartney alive? 52 00:05:22,448 --> 00:05:23,741 It's a hoax. It's a con. 53 00:05:23,824 --> 00:05:26,326 You got nothing at all to base it on. 54 00:05:26,410 --> 00:05:27,762 When was the last time you saw your brother? 55 00:05:27,786 --> 00:05:28,787 The last time? 56 00:05:28,871 --> 00:05:30,164 Yes. 57 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:32,416 It was his funeral, I think. 58 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:40,007 The Mull of Kintyre on the west coast of Scotland. 59 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:43,594 It's, uh, a Gaelic name for "end of land." 60 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:46,430 The biggest thing about the town, really, is, um, 61 00:05:46,513 --> 00:05:49,266 people would just say, "Oh, yeah, the Beatle's in town. 62 00:05:49,349 --> 00:05:51,018 He's up on the farm." 63 00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:54,396 That's pretty good. 64 00:06:01,111 --> 00:06:02,988 Get down, get down on the ground. 65 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:05,741 Well, I suppose 'cause you live here. 66 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:09,411 And don't try filming it, or you might get in some trouble. 67 00:06:09,495 --> 00:06:13,499 I think what happened is I think I might have thrown a bucket at him, 68 00:06:13,582 --> 00:06:15,959 and I think he took a picture. 69 00:06:17,294 --> 00:06:19,421 I decided I'd better go after him. 70 00:06:19,505 --> 00:06:24,134 And I say, "Look, what we'll do is we'll pose a photo for you 71 00:06:24,218 --> 00:06:26,678 in return for the bucket-throwing photo." 72 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:30,432 'Cause I didn't want the sort of drama to be, 73 00:06:30,516 --> 00:06:33,060 "There's where he is. He's throwing buckets." 74 00:06:35,938 --> 00:06:37,940 Knowing Paul McCartney is a millionaire, 75 00:06:38,023 --> 00:06:41,110 I could just imagine the sort of place he'd have. 76 00:06:41,193 --> 00:06:42,319 But I was wrong. 77 00:06:50,202 --> 00:06:52,538 Paul, his wife Linda and their two children 78 00:06:52,621 --> 00:06:54,748 live in their little broken-down old farmhouse, 79 00:06:54,832 --> 00:06:58,669 which even a poor farm laborer would think twice about accepting. 80 00:07:00,671 --> 00:07:05,342 We got up there to escape, but I couldn't escape. 81 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:10,305 The Beatles had just finished, and that was my life. 82 00:07:10,389 --> 00:07:14,852 I thought, "I'll never write another note of music ever." 83 00:07:22,526 --> 00:07:24,570 I felt very depressed. 84 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:27,656 So I said, "Well, I'll have a wee dram of scotch. 85 00:07:27,739 --> 00:07:29,950 Why not? 86 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:31,660 I might have another one. 87 00:07:31,743 --> 00:07:33,287 I've got nowhere to go." 88 00:07:34,371 --> 00:07:39,626 So this lasted a couple of months, and I got into drinking too much. 89 00:07:41,086 --> 00:07:46,133 But I was very lucky because I had Linda. 90 00:08:01,106 --> 00:08:03,233 London, weepy time down south. 91 00:08:03,317 --> 00:08:06,069 The last bachelor Beatle was no longer a bachelor. 92 00:08:06,153 --> 00:08:09,489 Paul McCartney married New Yorker Linda Eastman. 93 00:08:09,573 --> 00:08:12,075 Paul's new stepdaughter Heather was among the advance guard 94 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:16,038 who battled away through the shrieking, sobbing press of devoted fans 95 00:08:16,121 --> 00:08:18,874 who surged round the newlyweds as they made for their car. 96 00:08:24,755 --> 00:08:27,591 Why are you girls crying? 97 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:29,092 Why are you crying? 98 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:34,199 Control yourself a minute and tell me how you feel about him getting married. 99 00:08:34,223 --> 00:08:36,350 -Oh, I don't care. -Oh, I-I... I think it's-it's... 100 00:08:36,433 --> 00:08:38,518 Oh, it's lovely. 101 00:08:38,602 --> 00:08:40,562 Shouldn't you two be at school today? 102 00:08:40,646 --> 00:08:41,939 -Yes. -Yes. 103 00:08:42,606 --> 00:08:45,400 Mrs. McCartney, congratulations. 104 00:08:45,484 --> 00:08:47,778 What does it feel like to have just married the... 105 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:50,447 probably one of the most eligible bachelors in the world 106 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,658 to the envy of all the, uh, ladies? 107 00:08:52,741 --> 00:08:54,910 Well, it feels great to be married. 108 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,207 But it's funny, you think, oh, it's so easy just to... 109 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:03,252 they run off and live happily ever after. 110 00:09:03,335 --> 00:09:04,753 Cinderella and the prince. 111 00:09:06,338 --> 00:09:08,340 You know, it's not that easy. 112 00:09:10,592 --> 00:09:14,554 He said, "I've got this farm. I know you won't like it." 113 00:09:14,638 --> 00:09:16,807 But it was so beautiful up there. 114 00:09:19,518 --> 00:09:21,812 Way at the end of nowhere. 115 00:09:23,647 --> 00:09:25,065 Civilization dropped away. 116 00:09:27,109 --> 00:09:29,152 It was quite a relief. 117 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:38,036 It was just as if we'd been plunked into this new life, 118 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,038 and we just had to figure it out. 119 00:09:40,122 --> 00:09:43,292 ♪ Hey diddle, I want you back ♪ 120 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,127 ♪ Diddle, I want you back... 121 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:47,838 I think I said, "Well, let's just go get lost. 122 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:50,674 Just get away and go back to the beginning." 123 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,929 We'd had a baby, Mary. 124 00:09:56,013 --> 00:09:59,141 Linda had a five-year-old, so I adopted her, 125 00:09:59,224 --> 00:10:01,643 and I started making music again. 126 00:10:03,145 --> 00:10:07,482 ♪ She can't be found, but love doesn't care ♪ 127 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:10,027 ♪ Doesn't care... 128 00:10:11,028 --> 00:10:13,572 There was a lot of heartbreaking stuff going on, 129 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:15,699 but Mum was like, 130 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:21,163 "Look, let's just sing, create music, be together." 131 00:10:22,581 --> 00:10:26,084 We have horses and sheep, and we plant our own vegetables. 132 00:10:26,752 --> 00:10:28,879 We went vegetarian. 133 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:33,800 And it's the only place we go to where we can just stay very natural 134 00:10:33,884 --> 00:10:35,552 in this unnatural world. 135 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:41,892 I'm not very good at fixing roofs, so I can't really relate. 136 00:10:43,477 --> 00:10:46,355 He wanted to be grounded in an ordinary life 137 00:10:46,438 --> 00:10:51,360 because being in the Beatles was free of any kind of grounding whatsoever. 138 00:10:57,908 --> 00:11:00,994 I think they might think I'm gonna hot up the revolution. 139 00:11:01,078 --> 00:11:03,121 You know, I want to cool it down. 140 00:11:03,205 --> 00:11:05,624 We're selling it like soap, you know, and you've got to sell 141 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:08,585 and sell until the housewife thinks, 142 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,546 "Oh, uh, well, there's peace or war. That's the two products." 143 00:11:12,964 --> 00:11:18,011 The Beatles had broken up, but pretty much nobody knew. 144 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:21,681 Our manager at the time said, "Well, don't tell anyone. 145 00:11:21,765 --> 00:11:24,851 I'm gonna go to Capitol Records. I'm gonna improve your deal." 146 00:11:25,769 --> 00:11:28,355 And we all kind of agreed we won't tell. 147 00:11:29,272 --> 00:11:31,983 Even though John was getting off on it all. 148 00:11:32,067 --> 00:11:35,570 The Beatles, it's a monument or a museum. 149 00:11:35,654 --> 00:11:39,658 And one thing this age is about is no museums. 150 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:43,495 And the Beatles turned into a museum, so they have to be scrapped. 151 00:11:43,578 --> 00:11:45,747 Is there not a more positive way of-of demonstrating 152 00:11:45,831 --> 00:11:47,351 in favor of peace than sitting in bed? 153 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:55,173 John was starting to write his own stuff. 154 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:57,384 I was starting to write mine. 155 00:11:57,467 --> 00:12:00,053 We were just growing apart, really. 156 00:12:02,848 --> 00:12:06,476 So then I had to look inside myself 157 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:12,357 and look at my world and find something that wasn't the Beatles. 158 00:12:18,405 --> 00:12:22,409 He had two great allies when he set off on his new musical career. 159 00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:26,371 One, of course, was Linda, and the other was a blank sheet of paper. 160 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:35,338 ♪ La, la, la, la, la, la, lovely Linda... 161 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:39,092 At the beginning of the album, there's a squeak of a door. 162 00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:43,388 And that was our back door. I thought, "Well, that's cool." 163 00:12:43,472 --> 00:12:45,098 It showed that we were at home. 164 00:12:50,479 --> 00:12:53,648 So I had myself a 4-track machine, 165 00:12:53,732 --> 00:12:57,235 and we just actually plugged the microphones right into the back. 166 00:12:58,403 --> 00:13:00,655 And that would be track one. 167 00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:03,200 Don't cry, little baby. 168 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:05,368 Don't cry. 169 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:08,413 Daddy's gonna play you a lullaby. 170 00:13:08,497 --> 00:13:10,373 And then I'd put a guitar on that. 171 00:13:12,125 --> 00:13:14,127 And then I'd put a bass on that. 172 00:13:16,004 --> 00:13:19,090 So I just made up a lot of tracks like that. 173 00:13:19,174 --> 00:13:22,219 I love to just make stuff up. 174 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,888 It keeps me free. 175 00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:28,016 ♪ That would be something ♪ 176 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:31,228 ♪ It really would be something ♪ 177 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:33,772 ♪ That would be something ♪ 178 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,691 ♪ to meet you in the falling rain, mama ♪ 179 00:13:36,775 --> 00:13:38,693 ♪ Meet you in the falling rain... 180 00:13:39,569 --> 00:13:42,906 He more or less invented lo-fi recording. 181 00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:46,368 Alternative rock begins with McCartney, if you like. 182 00:13:47,118 --> 00:13:50,080 Underneath that, what was he really doing? 183 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:51,831 Experimenting. 184 00:14:00,715 --> 00:14:03,093 ♪ Meet you in the falling rain, mama ♪ 185 00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:06,304 ♪ Meet you in the falling rain ♪♪ 186 00:14:06,388 --> 00:14:08,974 Suddenly, it became an album. 187 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:10,809 It meant I hadn't given up. 188 00:14:21,152 --> 00:14:25,907 The only way I've ever written is going off somewhere. 189 00:14:25,991 --> 00:14:29,703 In the very early days, it was the toilet. 190 00:14:29,786 --> 00:14:34,708 After that, I would just find a cupboard under the stairs 191 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,210 to, like, escape the world. 192 00:14:38,336 --> 00:14:41,131 So you can have your most private thoughts. 193 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:42,465 Well, now, well, now. 194 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:50,765 You strum a chord, and then you kind of see where it leads you, 195 00:14:50,849 --> 00:14:52,684 like breadcrumbs. 196 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:55,520 It's just memories. 197 00:14:55,604 --> 00:14:58,315 Maybe regrets. 198 00:14:58,398 --> 00:14:59,816 Or even the future. 199 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:06,239 You sometimes fictionalize the characters. 200 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:12,912 But obviously, in a way, it's always you. 201 00:15:12,996 --> 00:15:18,209 If you've got some sort of problems, you work them out in the song. 202 00:15:20,337 --> 00:15:23,131 It really is the ultimate therapy, I think. 203 00:15:30,805 --> 00:15:33,975 I remember I was in Abbey Road one day. 204 00:15:34,059 --> 00:15:36,394 Paul was in number two listening to the record, 205 00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:38,813 so I popped my head in there. 206 00:15:38,897 --> 00:15:41,024 And he sort of gestured, you know, come in, 207 00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:44,569 and I stood there and I listened to this song. 208 00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:46,255 I said, "Who have you got playing on that?" 209 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:48,907 And he said, "Oh, I did it all myself." And it's like, "What?" 210 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:52,952 ♪ Maybe I'm amazed ♪ 211 00:15:53,036 --> 00:15:56,289 ♪ at the way you love me all the time ♪ 212 00:15:57,791 --> 00:16:01,211 ♪ Or maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you... 213 00:16:04,089 --> 00:16:07,425 It's not that I have any doubts about loving you, 214 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:12,722 but conversation in my head, it's more intense. 215 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:18,436 I'm mixing in fear of being a grown-up. 216 00:16:19,437 --> 00:16:22,899 ♪ Baby, I'm a man, maybe I'm a lonely man ♪ 217 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,984 ♪ who's in the middle of something ♪ 218 00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:28,822 ♪ that he doesn't really understand ♪ 219 00:16:31,449 --> 00:16:34,828 ♪ Baby, I'm a man, and maybe you're the only woman ♪ 220 00:16:34,911 --> 00:16:37,122 ♪ who could ever help me ♪ 221 00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:40,625 ♪ Baby, won't you help me understand? ♪ 222 00:16:40,709 --> 00:16:44,337 ♪ Ooh... 223 00:17:00,145 --> 00:17:04,441 We were always gonna say Beatles haven't split up when we clearly have. 224 00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:06,943 I just thought, "This is going on too long." 225 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:08,945 Is anybody coming to read this statement? 226 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,822 No, this is the only statement. 227 00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:12,323 And then all hell broke loose. 228 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:16,703 ♪ Oh, oh ♪ 229 00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:28,590 ♪ Oh, oh ♪♪ 230 00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:50,111 Once upon a time, they called themselves the Beatles. 231 00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:52,405 Today, Paul McCartney called it quits. 232 00:17:52,489 --> 00:17:55,617 He says he's going to write songs by himself. 233 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,243 Historians may one day 234 00:17:57,327 --> 00:18:00,830 view it as a landmark in the decline of the British Empire. 235 00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:04,083 The Beatles are breaking up. 236 00:18:04,167 --> 00:18:06,169 Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. 237 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,881 He called me in the afternoon of that day 238 00:18:09,964 --> 00:18:12,258 and said, "I'm leaving the group, too." 239 00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:14,260 I said, "Good," you know. 240 00:18:14,344 --> 00:18:17,847 'Cause he was the one that wanted the Beatles most. 241 00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:19,557 John was quite annoyed with me. 242 00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:21,976 He wanted to be the one to say it. 243 00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,562 So in my mind, I said, "Well, why didn't you?" 244 00:18:25,647 --> 00:18:29,943 John broke up the Beatles, you know, but I got the rap. 245 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:33,571 And that's a bit of a weight to bear. 246 00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:44,165 When you've been in the biggest group in the world, 247 00:18:44,249 --> 00:18:47,085 what do you do after that? 248 00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:55,093 You got to remember that we were just two little Liverpool lads going nowhere. 249 00:18:56,803 --> 00:19:00,515 When we were children, we stood on the banks of the River Mersey 250 00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:02,934 and said, "Dad, what's that?" 251 00:19:03,017 --> 00:19:06,229 "That's over the water, boys." 252 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:10,149 And that meant that that was unobtainable. 253 00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:11,526 ♪ We're so sorry ♪ 254 00:19:13,444 --> 00:19:16,698 ♪ Uncle Albert ♪ 255 00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:21,619 ♪ We're so sorry if we caused you any pain ♪ 256 00:19:23,037 --> 00:19:24,956 ♪ We're so sorry ♪ 257 00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:28,793 ♪ Uncle Albert ♪ 258 00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:32,839 ♪ But there's no one left at home ♪ 259 00:19:32,922 --> 00:19:36,676 ♪ and I believe I'm gonna rain... 260 00:19:37,886 --> 00:19:43,182 Having left Liverpool and having got a new life in London, 261 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:49,397 sometimes I felt a tiny regret at having left. 262 00:20:00,283 --> 00:20:03,119 Wouldn't it be great to go back to the old days? 263 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:07,248 Uncle Albert on the table, drunk, 264 00:20:07,332 --> 00:20:11,044 and my dad just sat around giving us pea sandwiches. 265 00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:13,421 If we're lucky. 266 00:20:13,504 --> 00:20:16,299 They probably can get where I am now. 267 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:19,677 It's an unfortunate reality, that distance. 268 00:20:22,096 --> 00:20:25,892 ♪ What's the use of worrying? ♪ 269 00:20:25,975 --> 00:20:31,522 ♪ It never was worthwhile, so ♪ 270 00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:35,610 ♪ pack up your troubles in your old kit-bag ♪ 271 00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:41,616 ♪ and smile, smile, smile ♪♪ 272 00:20:41,699 --> 00:20:44,077 I was on my own for the first time. 273 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:48,706 Am I any good on my own? 274 00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:00,885 I was in bed with Linda one night. 275 00:21:00,969 --> 00:21:02,428 On the spur of the moment, I said, 276 00:21:02,512 --> 00:21:06,224 "Well, if I form a new band, do you want to be in it?" 277 00:21:06,307 --> 00:21:09,268 And she kind of, "Um, yeah." 278 00:21:09,352 --> 00:21:11,521 It's as simple as that. 279 00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:14,440 Okay, well, that's... we got two members. 280 00:21:14,524 --> 00:21:18,403 ♪ Hands across the water ♪ 281 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:19,821 ♪ Water ♪ 282 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:25,284 ♪ Hands across the sky ♪ 283 00:21:25,368 --> 00:21:28,162 But I'm a photographer. I don't play anything. 284 00:21:28,246 --> 00:21:30,581 He said, "Well, here's middle C. You can play keyboard." 285 00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:37,213 ♪ Hands across the water ♪ 286 00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:38,506 ♪ Water ♪ 287 00:21:38,589 --> 00:21:45,596 ♪ Hands across the sky ♪♪ 288 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:04,991 His first album, McCartney, 289 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:07,660 was a Paul McCartney album, and so people bought it. 290 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:11,539 But they couldn't get their heads around what Paul was trying to do. 291 00:22:11,622 --> 00:22:15,168 There was a real air of disappointment. 292 00:22:15,251 --> 00:22:18,046 Maybe he's not a major talent after all. 293 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,801 I thought, "Well, having done the simple album, 294 00:22:23,885 --> 00:22:27,597 this time, let's treat it like a proper record." 295 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,017 Okay, then, let's see. 296 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,143 Let's see. 297 00:22:32,226 --> 00:22:33,728 We'll take a few over here now, so... 298 00:22:35,396 --> 00:22:37,148 ♪ Gonna go, gonna go ♪ 299 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:42,487 ♪ Gonna tell everyone I know... 300 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:48,409 The new album, it really was celebrating ordinary life. 301 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:51,496 You know, heading out on your own, make a family. 302 00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:55,875 ♪ Living in a home in the heart of the country ♪♪ 303 00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:57,168 You took that, huh? 304 00:22:57,251 --> 00:22:59,170 Yeah, I started screwing around a little bit. 305 00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:01,214 Screwing around a little bit. 306 00:23:01,297 --> 00:23:03,017 Yeah, I think you'd better play at us, then. 307 00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:05,718 Sit down. 308 00:23:07,136 --> 00:23:09,722 ♪ Come on, little lady ♪ 309 00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:11,891 ♪ Lady, let's eat at home... 310 00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,684 I couldn't wait to get to work. 311 00:23:13,768 --> 00:23:17,355 I just knew he was the best known musician on the planet. 312 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:20,566 But, well, this is not your typical session. 313 00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:30,952 Since you've been married, Paul, um, 314 00:23:31,035 --> 00:23:33,037 when did you first discover Linda could sing? 315 00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:34,872 On the wedding night. 316 00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:42,755 ♪ Do you love me like you know you ought to do... 317 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:44,048 I liked her voice. 318 00:23:44,132 --> 00:23:47,093 Her style was not operatic. 319 00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:49,178 It was not blues. 320 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:54,308 ♪ Or is this the only thing you want me for... 321 00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:59,230 But that gives it a special sound. 322 00:23:59,313 --> 00:24:02,358 It was more just singing. 323 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:08,614 ♪ Sweet little lass you are ♪ 324 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:12,034 ♪ my long-haired lady ♪ 325 00:24:15,997 --> 00:24:19,667 Now, what I thought was, use that for the middle eighths, certainly. 326 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:23,254 Uh-huh. Maybe we should sing on top of that, double track, then. 327 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:24,881 Sing on top of that, both of us? 328 00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:27,383 -Yeah. -Why not? 329 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:32,138 ♪ Ah, sing your song ♪ 330 00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:37,560 ♪ Love is long, love is long ♪ 331 00:24:38,686 --> 00:24:43,482 ♪ Ah, when you're wrong ♪ 332 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:48,821 ♪ love is long, love is long... 333 00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:54,660 Paul had been making music with the Beatles his whole life, 334 00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:57,663 and now he's making music with somebody else. 335 00:24:57,747 --> 00:24:59,540 ♪ Love is long... 336 00:24:59,624 --> 00:25:01,459 He was really happy. 337 00:25:03,002 --> 00:25:08,591 We knew that something was troubling him, but he didn't bring it into work. 338 00:25:14,972 --> 00:25:18,017 You know, the fairy tale was we make all this money, 339 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:24,941 we make all these lovely songs, and then we just split up, and that's it. 340 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:27,360 But it wasn't going that way. 341 00:25:32,073 --> 00:25:34,784 All the contracts that the Beatles signed in '68 342 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:37,912 were based on the idea that the Beatles would never break up. 343 00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:43,000 There was no way to extricate just one of them from the partnership. 344 00:25:43,084 --> 00:25:45,294 Nobody likes to be hemmed in. 345 00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:48,047 I think the worst thing about it, though, 346 00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:52,426 basically John had hired a manager who I didn't like. 347 00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:57,723 Allen Klein was classic New York, a lawyer but also a crook. 348 00:25:57,807 --> 00:25:59,725 He would get a cut off the top, 349 00:25:59,809 --> 00:26:03,271 and then he would take a cut off the bottom as well. 350 00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:06,524 But from John Lennon's point of view, he loved Klein. 351 00:26:06,607 --> 00:26:10,695 John said, "Maybe he's a bastard, but he's gonna be our bastard." 352 00:26:10,778 --> 00:26:12,613 I saw through it. 353 00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:14,198 The way things were going, 354 00:26:14,282 --> 00:26:19,745 Allen Klein would just swallow up all the Beatles' fortune. 355 00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:36,137 He is, um, obligated into Apple for a considerable number of years, 356 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:40,349 so, uh, his disassociating himself with me, 357 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,435 um, has really no effect. 358 00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:59,035 I remember I had a very strange nightmare. 359 00:27:01,537 --> 00:27:07,918 Allen Klein is a dentist, and I've got to have a tooth out. 360 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:11,797 And I wake up. 361 00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:17,928 Hmm. 362 00:27:18,012 --> 00:27:20,348 So I thought I had to fight it. 363 00:27:22,516 --> 00:27:26,270 My brother-in-law, he and his dad were a huge help. 364 00:27:26,354 --> 00:27:29,315 They said to sue them. 365 00:27:29,398 --> 00:27:33,069 And I said, "Well, I'll sue Allen Klein, but I can't sue the Beatles. 366 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,487 These are my mates." 367 00:27:38,282 --> 00:27:41,452 They're gonna hate me for it. The public's gonna hate me for it. 368 00:27:41,535 --> 00:27:42,995 I'm gonna hate me for it. 369 00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:48,084 But otherwise, I would never get out. 370 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:53,255 ♪ Too many people going underground ♪ 371 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:57,134 ♪ Too many reaching for a piece of cake... 372 00:27:58,219 --> 00:28:02,765 Good evening. Tonight, a musical surprise, as the Beatles topple. 373 00:28:02,848 --> 00:28:04,767 The legal attempt by Paul McCartney 374 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:08,604 to dissolve the business partnership of the Beatles began today in London. 375 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,148 He says their accounts are in such poor shape, 376 00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:13,859 nobody is sure where all the millions went. 377 00:28:13,943 --> 00:28:19,615 ♪ You took your lucky break and broke it in two... 378 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,701 Three of the singing Beatles put the fourth member of the quartet, 379 00:28:22,785 --> 00:28:26,580 Paul McCartney, through a new kind of hard day's night today. 380 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,750 McCartney was depicted by his fellow Beatles 381 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:33,629 as arrogant, short-tempered and a spoiled child. 382 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:38,843 ♪ Too many people preaching practices ♪ 383 00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:43,097 ♪ Don't let 'em tell you what you wanna be... 384 00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:44,783 Look, I know they're your in-laws and all... 385 00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:46,851 Yeah, but I don't go with Klein. 386 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:48,936 From now on, the Eastmans handle all my work. 387 00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:50,705 Oh, for Christ's sake, don't be an idiot, man. 388 00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,857 We've got to stick together. 389 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:55,443 There was even a play, I think, in the West End. 390 00:28:55,526 --> 00:28:58,863 And they sort of depicted Paul as being the one who broke up the Beatles. 391 00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:02,241 We've got to stick together. Otherwise, we'll be eaten alive. 392 00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:05,405 Forget the Eastmans. All's fair in love and business. 393 00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:08,372 From now on, the Eastmans handle all my work! 394 00:29:08,456 --> 00:29:10,541 -Christ... -No further comment! 395 00:29:12,042 --> 00:29:15,254 The earth was swallowing everything up. 396 00:29:15,337 --> 00:29:18,174 It was monumental, I think, for the world, the Beatles breaking up, 397 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:21,135 and especially for the world of the band members. 398 00:29:23,637 --> 00:29:26,474 ♪ Everybody had a good time ♪ 399 00:29:26,557 --> 00:29:29,685 ♪ Everybody had a soft dream ♪ 400 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:33,105 ♪ Everybody saw the sunshine ♪ 401 00:29:33,189 --> 00:29:36,108 ♪ Everybody had a hard year ♪♪ 402 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:39,487 Surprise, surprise. 403 00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:43,616 He was tough, my dad. 404 00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:45,576 You know, I think Paul was tough, too. 405 00:29:45,659 --> 00:29:49,330 He just has a gentle manner about him. 406 00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:51,290 What did you think of Paul's album? 407 00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:54,543 I thought Paul's was rubbish, you know. 408 00:29:54,627 --> 00:29:58,506 I-I think he'll make a better one when he's frightened into it. 409 00:29:58,589 --> 00:30:00,799 But I thought that first one was just a lot of... 410 00:30:00,883 --> 00:30:03,469 I told you... light and crack. 411 00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:11,602 ♪ So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise... 412 00:30:11,685 --> 00:30:15,481 In school, I was different. I was always different. 413 00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:19,026 But most of the time, they were trying to beat me into being a fucking dentist. 414 00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:24,198 And then the fucking fans started to beat me into being a fucking Beatle. 415 00:30:24,281 --> 00:30:27,326 And the critics started to beat me into being Paul McCartney. 416 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:31,914 ♪ Those freaks was right when they said ♪ 417 00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:35,417 ♪ you was dead... 418 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:39,213 Paul thought he was the fucking Beatles, and he never fucking was. 419 00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:42,633 Allen Klein was stirring it up something awful. 420 00:30:42,716 --> 00:30:44,468 They had him spinning about Paul. 421 00:30:44,552 --> 00:30:46,679 It was really heartbreaking. 422 00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:49,473 It reminded me of Ivan the Terrible, you know, the movie. 423 00:30:51,141 --> 00:30:55,271 ♪ The only thing you done was ♪ 424 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,065 ♪ "Yesterday" ♪ 425 00:30:58,148 --> 00:31:00,526 "The only thing you did was 'Yesterday'" 426 00:31:00,609 --> 00:31:03,487 was apparently Allen Klein's suggestion. 427 00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:05,656 But at the back of my mind, I was thinking, 428 00:31:05,739 --> 00:31:08,826 "But all I ever did was 'Yesterday, ' 'Let It Be, ' 429 00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:12,121 'Long and Winding Road, ' 'Eleanor Rigby, ' 'Lady Madonna.' 430 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,164 -Fuck you, John." -♪ Tell me ♪ 431 00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:17,293 ♪ how do you sleep?♪♪ 432 00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:19,920 How do I sleep at night? 433 00:31:20,004 --> 00:31:22,214 Well, actually, quite well. 434 00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:28,095 But, you know, you got to remember, I'd known John since he was a teenager. 435 00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:31,390 And that's kind of what I loved about John. 436 00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:34,560 He's a crazy son of a bitch. 437 00:31:34,643 --> 00:31:37,938 He's a lovely, lovely, crazy guy. 438 00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,864 First, hear this. 439 00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:59,460 It's cool, it's groovy, it's number one, the Led Zeppelin. 440 00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:00,836 The Led, uh, what? 441 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,964 The, uh, Led Zeppelin, but I'm afraid that you and other dads like you, Bob, 442 00:32:04,048 --> 00:32:05,591 may never have heard of them. 443 00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:08,385 But this British group has made musical history today. 444 00:32:08,469 --> 00:32:11,597 Readers of the Melody Maker have voted them the top world group. 445 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,059 The significance is that the Beatles have held this title for eight years, 446 00:32:15,142 --> 00:32:18,103 but now the Beatles are out. 447 00:32:24,193 --> 00:32:28,614 Looking back to the early '70s, Paul was remarkably uncool. 448 00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:31,825 He was conservative, he was lame, he was boring, 449 00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:35,162 he was making music for housewives and grannies. 450 00:32:35,245 --> 00:32:38,415 People are now interested in young musicians 451 00:32:38,499 --> 00:32:43,337 rather than in, say, what Paul McCartney had for breakfast. 452 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:47,091 ♪ Ram on ♪ 453 00:32:47,174 --> 00:32:51,679 ♪ Give your heart to somebody ♪ 454 00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:54,973 ♪ soon ♪ 455 00:32:55,057 --> 00:32:57,976 ♪ right away ♪ 456 00:32:58,060 --> 00:33:03,691 ♪ right away... 457 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,319 Why is it called Ram? 458 00:33:07,403 --> 00:33:11,615 Ram, forward, press on. 459 00:33:11,699 --> 00:33:16,954 I also, a lot of people know, I'm well into sheep, man. 460 00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:22,292 Ram came out, and the press just panned it. 461 00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:43,564 It's crazy. 462 00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:46,650 People are saying that this record is a failure, 463 00:33:46,734 --> 00:33:50,154 but Ram specifically wasn't trying to be a Beatles record, 464 00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:52,406 and I think that's the charm of it. 465 00:33:52,489 --> 00:33:54,700 Yeah, Ram is a masterpiece. I love it. 466 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:01,707 Oh, I don't know what I'm doing. 467 00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:06,670 How can I ever do anything 468 00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:09,673 that's anywhere near as good as the Beatles? 469 00:34:09,757 --> 00:34:11,967 It's impossible. 470 00:34:13,635 --> 00:34:15,095 And this, we're betting, 471 00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:16,597 will make the top five this week. 472 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,266 It's by an English group called The Moody Blues. 473 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:20,768 And if it makes the grade, 474 00:34:20,851 --> 00:34:22,895 we'll be bringing them back for a return appearance. 475 00:34:22,978 --> 00:34:26,732 So here it is, the Shindig! Pick of the Week, "Go Now!" 476 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:30,444 ♪ We've already said ♪ 477 00:34:33,822 --> 00:34:36,283 ♪ goodbye ♪ 478 00:34:36,366 --> 00:34:39,912 I'd known Denny Laine from when he was with The Moody Blues. 479 00:34:39,995 --> 00:34:45,542 ♪ Since you got to go, oh, you'd better go now... 480 00:34:45,626 --> 00:34:47,377 I used to go over to his place. 481 00:34:47,461 --> 00:34:49,838 He loaned me a guitar once, and I kept it for a year. 482 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:51,799 You know, we were kind of friends in that way. 483 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,218 I rang him one day and said... 484 00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:56,220 "Do you fancy getting a band together?" 485 00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:59,640 Denny would play guitar, and I could play bass, obviously. 486 00:34:59,723 --> 00:35:02,017 And as far as the drummer's concerned, 487 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,604 you know, you got to have a good engine behind you. 488 00:35:05,687 --> 00:35:08,565 Paul called me and he says, "You know, I really miss my old band. 489 00:35:08,649 --> 00:35:11,026 I'm thinking about putting a band together." 490 00:35:13,654 --> 00:35:15,489 And I said, "Yeah, sure." 491 00:35:15,572 --> 00:35:16,740 That's all it was. 492 00:35:16,824 --> 00:35:18,283 ♪ I don't want to see you go ♪ 493 00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:23,205 ♪ but, darling, you'd better go now ♪♪ 494 00:35:24,414 --> 00:35:28,418 Driving up to Scotland, you stop at the farmer's house 495 00:35:28,502 --> 00:35:31,713 and ask him which lane takes you up to Paul's place. 496 00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:35,551 "Okay, laddie, you take the wee cuttings up..." 497 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:36,802 "Sure." 498 00:35:38,303 --> 00:35:40,222 There it was in the middle of nowhere. 499 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,476 They were all sheep people. 500 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,019 You know Scotland. 501 00:35:46,103 --> 00:35:47,705 You can't have anything but sheep up there, 502 00:35:47,729 --> 00:35:50,357 the only thing that survive in the mountains. 503 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,127 He had a little studio that... 504 00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:14,089 well, not a studio, it was like a barn, 505 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,133 which he called Rude Studio. 506 00:36:18,635 --> 00:36:20,262 ♪ - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 507 00:36:20,345 --> 00:36:21,531 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... 508 00:36:21,555 --> 00:36:24,266 He said, "We're all gonna be a part of this. 509 00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:26,226 What I make, you're gonna make." 510 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:27,895 He wanted us to be like... 511 00:36:27,978 --> 00:36:30,272 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪♪ 512 00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:33,567 He wanted us to be known just like the Beatles were known. 513 00:36:34,651 --> 00:36:36,820 I went, "Okay." 514 00:36:41,575 --> 00:36:44,161 Paul was looking for a guitar player, 515 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:47,205 and Denny brought my name into the picture. 516 00:36:47,289 --> 00:36:50,250 He says, "Do you want to join a band?" 517 00:36:50,334 --> 00:36:52,920 I think I know guitar players would've chopped a finger off 518 00:36:53,003 --> 00:36:55,589 to get that gig, you know? 519 00:36:55,672 --> 00:36:58,550 I mean, he's not going to have a bunch of fools around him, 520 00:36:58,634 --> 00:37:00,802 Paul McCartney, I can tell you. 521 00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,788 ♪ Well, I woke up this morning ♪ 522 00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:29,790 ♪ Lucille was not in sight ♪ 523 00:37:29,873 --> 00:37:33,210 ♪ I asked my friends about it, but all their lips were tight ♪ 524 00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:35,045 ♪ Lucille ♪ 525 00:37:36,463 --> 00:37:38,882 ♪ please come back where you belong ♪ 526 00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:44,513 ♪ Well, I'm singing to you, baby ♪ 527 00:37:44,596 --> 00:37:47,683 ♪ Please don't leave me alone ♪ 528 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:53,522 Let's go once more. 529 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:54,606 Yeah. 530 00:37:56,149 --> 00:38:00,862 I thought we should start like the Beatles started, from square one. 531 00:38:00,946 --> 00:38:02,739 ♪ Two, three ♪ 532 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:06,910 So we went on the road. 533 00:38:11,707 --> 00:38:14,501 When we leave here, we'll just pick up a map. 534 00:38:14,584 --> 00:38:16,420 We'll say, "Where do you fancy today?" 535 00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:19,089 -So who does the driving? -I did a bit. 536 00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:23,260 We had the kids, the dogs, like kind of wandering troubadours. 537 00:38:23,343 --> 00:38:25,554 ♪ Oh, sweet darling ♪ 538 00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,180 ♪ what a mess I'm in... 539 00:38:27,264 --> 00:38:30,559 We turned up at Nottingham University was the first one. 540 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:33,478 The roadie normally went in, and he said, uh, 541 00:38:33,562 --> 00:38:35,362 "We got Paul McCartney in a van outside, mate. 542 00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:37,315 Do-do you want him playing lunchtime tomorrow?" 543 00:38:37,399 --> 00:38:39,794 They said, "Get out of here. I got more serious things to do." 544 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:42,738 They-They'd come out in the van to sort of check. 545 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:45,198 "Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll have him." 546 00:38:57,919 --> 00:39:01,173 Charge them 50 pence on the door just because you do. 547 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:04,926 You know, we ain't doing this for nothing. Yeah. 548 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,472 And then the great thing is we have this whacking great bag of 50 pees, 549 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:11,308 and it'd be like, have you ever seen Peter Sellers in Tom Thumb? 550 00:39:11,391 --> 00:39:15,187 One for me and one for you. 551 00:39:16,104 --> 00:39:18,065 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 552 00:39:18,148 --> 00:39:19,649 ♪ Yeah ♪ 553 00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:22,045 But it was amazing, 'cause I'd been in Apple and the Beatles, 554 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:23,987 and you'd never seen money. 555 00:39:24,071 --> 00:39:25,911 So this was me going back to, like, the Cavern. 556 00:39:25,947 --> 00:39:29,076 It was like there's a whole new life starting again. 557 00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:31,369 ♪ Hey ♪ 558 00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:32,829 ♪ Now, now, now ♪ 559 00:39:33,914 --> 00:39:35,582 ♪ Yeah, yeah-yeah... 560 00:39:35,665 --> 00:39:39,836 In the meantime, we just learned how to be Wings. 561 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,757 There will come a day when we'll be at square a hundred. 562 00:39:48,303 --> 00:39:49,930 After a private joust, 563 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:52,307 unannounced, appearing at some British universities, 564 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:56,770 Wings started a 26-venue European tour on Sunday night. 565 00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:59,439 -Why start here? -We could get big gigs. 566 00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:03,193 I mean, we've had offers to play at Madison Square Garden. 567 00:40:03,276 --> 00:40:06,530 I think, as far as I'm concerned, see, I'm just some fella 568 00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:09,032 who used to be in a group called the Beatles. 569 00:40:09,116 --> 00:40:13,245 The Beatles split up, so quite naturally you look for something else. 570 00:40:13,328 --> 00:40:14,955 And that's all I'm doing. 571 00:40:15,038 --> 00:40:18,250 And it's a group called Wings, and we're having a great time 572 00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:21,419 doing the kind of things the Beatles couldn't, never done. 573 00:40:35,892 --> 00:40:37,310 From England, Wings! 574 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:58,790 ♪ Who's that coming round that corner? ♪ 575 00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:02,752 ♪ Who's that coming round that bend... 576 00:41:02,836 --> 00:41:05,338 It's a particular kind of excitement. 577 00:41:05,422 --> 00:41:09,050 A good audience is an incredible thing, 578 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:12,220 like a roomful of 4,000 lovers. 579 00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:14,764 England, Wings! 580 00:41:14,848 --> 00:41:16,600 Paul McCartney & Wings! 581 00:41:16,683 --> 00:41:19,144 Paul McCartney & Wings! 582 00:41:19,227 --> 00:41:21,771 ♪ Keep on ♪ 583 00:41:21,855 --> 00:41:24,232 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed... 584 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:27,861 ♪ Keep on ♪ 585 00:41:27,944 --> 00:41:30,363 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed ♪ 586 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:38,914 We lived as a family. 587 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:41,374 I don't remember nannies. 588 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:43,418 They would pull out a drawer, 589 00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:46,087 put a pillow in it, and that's where the baby slept. 590 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:49,257 We've got some mattresses up there, you know, so we can just cruise along. 591 00:41:49,341 --> 00:41:50,759 Fantastic. 592 00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:53,595 ♪ Keep on ♪ 593 00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:55,889 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed ♪ 594 00:41:55,972 --> 00:41:59,100 ♪ Keep on ♪ 595 00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,061 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed... 596 00:42:01,144 --> 00:42:06,399 People thought we were totally crazy, but that was our way. 597 00:42:06,483 --> 00:42:09,778 ♪ Keep on ♪ 598 00:42:09,861 --> 00:42:11,613 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed ♪ 599 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:15,200 ♪ Keep on ♪ 600 00:42:15,283 --> 00:42:17,202 ♪ sleeping in a big barn bed ♪ 601 00:42:17,285 --> 00:42:20,580 ♪ Keep on ♪ 602 00:42:20,664 --> 00:42:24,251 ♪ woman ♪♪ 603 00:42:26,878 --> 00:42:29,130 It was, it was interesting seeing people in the street, 604 00:42:29,214 --> 00:42:31,049 you know, who'd see the bus going by. 605 00:42:35,387 --> 00:42:39,808 But it's almost like their eyes would be drawn like magnets to Paul's face. 606 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:43,979 It was quite odd. 607 00:42:46,273 --> 00:42:50,944 So, there was one day when we stopped at a motorway services to go and have a pee, 608 00:42:51,027 --> 00:42:53,154 and I said to him, uh, "Are you coming?" 609 00:42:53,238 --> 00:42:56,157 And he said, "No, no. You know, I can't stand at a urinal, 610 00:42:56,241 --> 00:42:58,886 you know, and have someone say, 'Oh, you're-you're here, ' you know. 611 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:00,161 'Hello, Paul.'" 612 00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:02,247 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪♪ 613 00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:04,833 "I trained myself," he said, "when I was in the Beatles, 614 00:43:04,916 --> 00:43:06,876 you know, for it not to be necessary." 615 00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:13,091 You know, he wanted to engender this, uh, we're all mates and on the same plane, 616 00:43:13,174 --> 00:43:17,971 you know, which, of course, we-we... we weren't at all. 617 00:43:21,850 --> 00:43:25,186 The plants, still in pots, were produced in court today. 618 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:27,314 They were found by a local policeman 619 00:43:27,397 --> 00:43:30,317 who'd gone to check the empty McCartney farm buildings. 620 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,446 He looked in the greenhouse and thought he recognized the cannabis. 621 00:43:34,529 --> 00:43:36,573 Well, I'm glad to have got off like this, you know. 622 00:43:36,656 --> 00:43:38,616 I'm glad it wasn't jail. 623 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:40,261 Did you think at one point it might have been? 624 00:43:40,285 --> 00:43:42,763 I thought it might be, you know, but I would've been okay as long as I could 625 00:43:42,787 --> 00:43:46,166 take my guitar in with me, you know, write a few new songs and stuff. 626 00:43:46,249 --> 00:43:48,585 But, uh, I wasn't looking forward to it. 627 00:43:48,668 --> 00:43:51,880 It was said in court that you had a considerable interest in horticulture. 628 00:43:51,963 --> 00:43:54,007 Now, this might surprise some of your friends. 629 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,550 Uh, when did this start? 630 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:58,720 A couple of years ago, you know. 631 00:43:58,803 --> 00:44:01,723 And wh-where have you been doing your gardening, et cetera? 632 00:44:01,806 --> 00:44:03,850 At the farm, yeah. 633 00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:05,518 My dad's a keen gardener, you know. 634 00:44:05,602 --> 00:44:08,146 I think it's rubbed off. 635 00:44:08,229 --> 00:44:10,565 It was said that those seeds had been sent to you. 636 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:12,650 How did you come to grow them? 637 00:44:12,734 --> 00:44:15,987 Yeah, well, we got a load of seeds, you know, kind of in the post. 638 00:44:16,071 --> 00:44:18,656 Uh, and we didn't know what they were, you know. 639 00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:22,077 We kind of planted them all, and five of them came up like... 640 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,287 five of them came up illegal, you know. 641 00:44:25,372 --> 00:44:28,917 As he left the court, McCartney, who'd been given two weeks to pay the fine, 642 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,127 said, "The judge is a great guy." 643 00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:36,758 I... I'm very enthusiastic. 644 00:44:36,841 --> 00:44:41,262 And so the initial enthusiasm is what gets things done. 645 00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:46,393 But in my case, there's never anyone around saying, "No, that's a stupid idea. 646 00:44:46,476 --> 00:44:48,603 You shouldn't do that." 647 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,231 So I blame everyone else. 648 00:44:52,857 --> 00:44:57,278 ♪ People call me a stick-in-the-mud ♪ 649 00:44:57,362 --> 00:45:00,198 ♪ but it's certainly not true ♪ 650 00:45:01,783 --> 00:45:05,620 ♪ Who could call me a stick-in-the-mud ♪ 651 00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:09,416 ♪ when I polish my tonsils ♪ 652 00:45:09,499 --> 00:45:16,423 ♪ put on my dancing shoes? ♪ 653 00:45:22,137 --> 00:45:24,597 ♪ When I get that feeling at the end of my toes ♪ 654 00:45:24,681 --> 00:45:27,976 ♪ gotta go in a trance ♪ 655 00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:30,478 ♪ I get an itchy feeling at the end of my nose ♪ 656 00:45:30,562 --> 00:45:32,730 ♪ Gotta sing, gotta dance... 657 00:45:32,814 --> 00:45:35,984 In 1973, Paul made a TV special, 658 00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:38,403 but some of it was just so bizarre. 659 00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:42,949 ♪ Don't stop... 660 00:45:43,032 --> 00:45:45,243 He loved all that soppy shit. 661 00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:48,163 Come on, give me a leg up. 662 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:49,664 Thanks, lad. 663 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:52,709 Sorry I've been so long. I had a bit of bother below stairs. 664 00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:55,670 Like this Bruce McMouse thing from the live show. 665 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:57,714 And not cool, totally not cool. 666 00:45:57,797 --> 00:46:00,175 Hey, you're a nice little fellow, aren't you? 667 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:01,676 Watch it, love. 668 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:03,720 The wife gets jealous. 669 00:46:03,803 --> 00:46:06,097 ♪ - Don't stop... 670 00:46:06,181 --> 00:46:10,894 By '73, things had started to turn ugly, generally. 671 00:46:10,977 --> 00:46:13,188 People were dying. 672 00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:15,440 And there was a sense that 673 00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:20,445 rock music was supposed to be the voice of revolt or revolution. 674 00:46:20,528 --> 00:46:22,280 It wasn't just all about fun. 675 00:46:22,363 --> 00:46:24,949 ♪ Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't ♪ 676 00:46:25,033 --> 00:46:26,493 ♪ don't, don't stop ♪♪ 677 00:46:28,077 --> 00:46:30,622 And I get that, you know. 678 00:46:30,705 --> 00:46:35,543 But the thing is, not everyone can do that. 679 00:46:35,627 --> 00:46:38,129 And not everyone wants to do that. 680 00:46:39,631 --> 00:46:43,259 ♪ Mary had a little lamb ♪ 681 00:46:43,343 --> 00:46:47,972 ♪ Its fleece was white as snow ♪ 682 00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:52,435 "Mary Had a Little Fucking Lamb"? Are you nuts? 683 00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:54,771 ♪ And you could hear them singing ♪ 684 00:46:54,854 --> 00:46:58,107 ♪ La-la, la-la... 685 00:46:58,191 --> 00:47:01,819 Now, you talk about somebody that had a tough time 686 00:47:01,903 --> 00:47:05,573 with "Mary Had a Little Lamb," it was Henry McCullough. 687 00:47:05,657 --> 00:47:07,242 ♪ La-la... 688 00:47:07,325 --> 00:47:11,162 We were in, uh, dance studios trying to learn how to do 689 00:47:11,246 --> 00:47:13,164 vaudeville dances and stuff, you know. 690 00:47:13,248 --> 00:47:14,499 I'm a bloody guitar player. 691 00:47:16,459 --> 00:47:18,836 Some people think it was a great thing for me 692 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,589 to be involved in right from the start. 693 00:47:21,673 --> 00:47:23,466 But that wears off, you know. 694 00:47:27,095 --> 00:47:30,056 Wings was a dud when it first came out. 695 00:47:31,766 --> 00:47:32,976 Well, since the breakup, 696 00:47:33,059 --> 00:47:36,646 I think John's come out with the best album with Imagine. 697 00:47:36,729 --> 00:47:39,566 George, I really liked All Things Must Pass. 698 00:47:39,649 --> 00:47:42,485 I think it surprised a lot of people. 699 00:47:42,569 --> 00:47:43,945 I mean, Ringo's lovely. 700 00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:46,656 He made an album called Beaucoups of Blues, which I really like. 701 00:47:47,991 --> 00:47:50,868 McCartney's probably the most sort of talked about more than anyone else 702 00:47:50,952 --> 00:47:54,038 because people have been really disappointed. 703 00:47:54,122 --> 00:47:57,333 I'd rather hear Paul McCartney rather than Linda McCartney, you know. 704 00:48:00,878 --> 00:48:03,172 Probably you, more than any other member of the band, 705 00:48:03,256 --> 00:48:05,174 comes in for a lot of stick. 706 00:48:05,258 --> 00:48:07,385 How-how do you react to this? 707 00:48:07,468 --> 00:48:09,304 Well, I think it's getting better. 708 00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:10,888 Who's Linda Eastman? 709 00:48:10,972 --> 00:48:12,974 That's it. Who is it? 710 00:48:13,057 --> 00:48:14,559 What is it? 711 00:48:14,642 --> 00:48:17,687 Technically, she's supposed to be Paul's wife, 712 00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:19,731 but she's his ruler, his guardian. 713 00:48:19,814 --> 00:48:21,190 She says, he jumps. 714 00:48:21,274 --> 00:48:22,984 Why? I don't know. 715 00:48:23,067 --> 00:48:24,694 "She can't do this, she can't sing, 716 00:48:24,777 --> 00:48:27,614 she can't play piano, she can't do anything." 717 00:48:27,697 --> 00:48:29,198 "Oh, they're crazy, man. 718 00:48:29,282 --> 00:48:31,492 What's he got his old lady in the band for?" 719 00:48:34,579 --> 00:48:36,289 "Who the hell is this?" 720 00:48:43,379 --> 00:48:46,924 People have an image of me that's so far away of what I am. 721 00:48:47,008 --> 00:48:48,134 I almost don't mind. 722 00:48:48,217 --> 00:48:50,345 I don't want people to know who I am anyway. 723 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:53,514 ♪ Looking like a rag doll ♪ 724 00:48:53,598 --> 00:48:55,892 ♪ Mama's little girl... 725 00:48:56,684 --> 00:49:01,522 I was just a-a divorced lady living in New York with a child. 726 00:49:01,606 --> 00:49:06,569 I was, like, a receptionist at Town & Country magazine 727 00:49:06,653 --> 00:49:09,447 and just started taking pictures a bit for the fun of it. 728 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:12,659 And all of a sudden, I just started getting work. 729 00:49:18,915 --> 00:49:23,503 I could see and feel so much looking through a lens, 730 00:49:23,586 --> 00:49:26,255 because I forgot my insecurities. 731 00:49:26,839 --> 00:49:29,550 I forgot myself. 732 00:49:29,634 --> 00:49:31,552 That's how I know when to click. 733 00:49:35,098 --> 00:49:37,517 And it was around that time I met Paul. 734 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:49,404 Now that you look at his photography and hers together, 735 00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:56,119 even though they came from very different walks of life, they're very like-minded. 736 00:49:56,202 --> 00:49:59,997 ♪ Singing like a skylark... 737 00:50:01,457 --> 00:50:04,585 Both of them, when they take a portrait, 738 00:50:04,669 --> 00:50:07,380 it's really like they're looking at a friend. 739 00:50:08,381 --> 00:50:13,511 ♪ Picking up a mountain, yeah... 740 00:50:13,594 --> 00:50:16,139 She was a-a complete individual. 741 00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:22,520 He hadn't met anybody like that before. 742 00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:27,692 The way I never was. 743 00:50:30,236 --> 00:50:32,822 The way I never will be. 744 00:50:32,905 --> 00:50:34,490 -Gorgeous. -Cheers to that. 745 00:50:36,492 --> 00:50:38,703 What am I doing singing with Paul McCartney? 746 00:50:38,786 --> 00:50:41,080 In a way, they're right. What am I doing? 747 00:50:41,164 --> 00:50:43,124 There are a lot better singers. 748 00:50:45,334 --> 00:50:47,587 Yeah, she wasn't a cookie-cutter example 749 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:49,797 of someone you put in a band. 750 00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:53,551 What they, and she especially, had to go through, 751 00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:57,930 like when they isolated her voice and ridiculed her, I mean, it breaks my heart. 752 00:50:58,014 --> 00:51:00,433 You know, I know that there was pain there. 753 00:51:00,516 --> 00:51:01,684 I know she hurt. 754 00:51:01,768 --> 00:51:04,187 She wasn't, like, cold. 755 00:51:04,854 --> 00:51:09,150 But I think that shows her bravery and her spirit. 756 00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:14,489 That side to her boosted a side that he perhaps had lost. 757 00:51:14,572 --> 00:51:18,701 ♪ - Oh, my love ♪ 758 00:51:18,785 --> 00:51:22,747 ♪ Oh, my love ♪ 759 00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:24,957 ♪ Only my love ♪ 760 00:51:25,041 --> 00:51:30,129 ♪ does it good to me ♪ 761 00:51:49,899 --> 00:51:51,692 That's why I'm there, really. 762 00:51:51,776 --> 00:51:55,029 I'm not there 'cause I'm the greatest keyboard player. 763 00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:57,114 I'm there 'cause we love each other. 764 00:52:01,536 --> 00:52:04,622 She taught me a lot of things. 765 00:52:04,705 --> 00:52:07,917 Anybody who bad-mouthed us 766 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,087 made us even more determined to prove them wrong. 767 00:52:18,261 --> 00:52:19,345 Welcome back. 768 00:52:19,428 --> 00:52:21,806 A week ago today, three of the original four Beatles, 769 00:52:21,889 --> 00:52:23,599 John, George, Paul and Ringo, 770 00:52:23,683 --> 00:52:27,436 finally parted company with their fast-talking American manager Allen Klein. 771 00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:30,481 I don't want to go into the details of it. 772 00:52:30,565 --> 00:52:34,110 Let's say that possibly Paul's suspicions were right. 773 00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:38,573 The media and the fans wanted to choose sides, you know. 774 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:44,453 The reality is they were actually more similar than they were different. 775 00:52:44,537 --> 00:52:48,374 Paul, uh, personally doesn't feel as though I-I insulted him or anything, 776 00:52:48,457 --> 00:52:50,084 'cause I had dinner with him last week. 777 00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:51,770 -He's quite happy... -They were friends, you know, 778 00:52:51,794 --> 00:52:53,354 and they were swearing at each other... 779 00:52:53,379 --> 00:52:56,674 If I can't, uh, if I can't, uh, have a fight with my best friend, 780 00:52:56,757 --> 00:52:58,426 I don't know who I can have a fight with. 781 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,429 That was the kind of thing, you know. 782 00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:05,391 You'd be in an argument with John, and it'd be getting a little bit heated, 783 00:53:05,474 --> 00:53:08,603 and he would take his glasses and he'd just put them down, 784 00:53:08,686 --> 00:53:11,063 and he says, "It's only me." 785 00:53:12,398 --> 00:53:16,861 I'm still the guy that you loved in Liverpool. 786 00:53:18,404 --> 00:53:19,864 "It's only me." 787 00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:21,657 Young man right here, the first row. 788 00:53:21,741 --> 00:53:23,886 I'd like to know if you've heard the new McCartney album, 789 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:25,870 and if so, how'd you like it? 790 00:53:25,953 --> 00:53:27,246 -The Wings one? -Yeah. 791 00:53:27,330 --> 00:53:28,974 Some of it's all right. I thought it was getting better, 792 00:53:28,998 --> 00:53:30,917 some of it wasn't as good and some was better. 793 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,227 I think he's going in the right direction. 794 00:53:32,251 --> 00:53:34,354 -You think he's getting it back? -I think he has to. 795 00:53:34,378 --> 00:53:36,589 He's got it there somewhere. 796 00:53:39,383 --> 00:53:43,054 I was looking around for somewhere exciting to record the next album. 797 00:53:43,137 --> 00:53:45,973 I thought a good idea would be to get a list off EMI 798 00:53:46,057 --> 00:53:48,517 of all the studios they had round the world. 799 00:53:48,601 --> 00:53:50,519 It turned out they had a studio in Germany. 800 00:53:50,603 --> 00:53:53,648 They had one in Rio, China. 801 00:53:53,731 --> 00:53:55,650 They had one in Africa. 802 00:54:20,383 --> 00:54:22,134 Fela was so cool. 803 00:54:22,218 --> 00:54:25,179 I'd never heard anything like it in my life. 804 00:54:26,472 --> 00:54:29,350 We just said, "Yeah, let's go to Africa." 805 00:54:29,433 --> 00:54:32,603 Denny Laine and Linda were very up for the idea. 806 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:36,899 The night before we were due to go, the other guys, 807 00:54:36,983 --> 00:54:40,569 they just rang up and said, "We're not coming. 808 00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:42,279 We're leaving the band." 809 00:54:44,782 --> 00:54:47,952 We really felt like it was a family thing. 810 00:54:48,035 --> 00:54:52,915 But for years, we're living on a meager, meager retainer. 811 00:54:53,916 --> 00:54:57,628 He wanted us to be like John, Paul, George and Ringo, 812 00:54:57,712 --> 00:55:00,840 but it was really Paul McCartney and these other guys that played with him. 813 00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:06,470 Half the band left within the same week, and he never asked why. 814 00:55:07,555 --> 00:55:12,226 I didn't want to be part of it anymore because it wasn't really for real. 815 00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:14,937 It was a dream. 816 00:55:16,105 --> 00:55:17,940 That's what it was. 817 00:55:23,237 --> 00:55:24,822 I wasn't on top of it. 818 00:55:24,905 --> 00:55:26,991 You know, I wasn't in the accounts department 819 00:55:27,074 --> 00:55:29,243 looking at what everyone was getting. 820 00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:32,788 In my mind, it's, "Well, get better than me, then. 821 00:55:32,872 --> 00:55:34,915 Write some great songs. 822 00:55:34,999 --> 00:55:37,543 That's how you can solve your problem." 823 00:55:37,626 --> 00:55:41,505 So after the initial reaction, it was just, like, anger. 824 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:44,675 I went into my "fuck you" mode. 825 00:55:44,759 --> 00:55:47,636 "I'm gonna make the best record you've ever heard." 826 00:55:56,312 --> 00:55:58,314 ♪ Down in the jungle, living in a tent ♪ 827 00:55:58,397 --> 00:56:00,000 ♪ you don't use money, you don't pay rent ♪ 828 00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:02,693 ♪ You don't even know the time, but you don't mind... 829 00:56:03,778 --> 00:56:06,363 We were kind of watching the landing with the pilot of the plane, 830 00:56:06,447 --> 00:56:08,467 and there's this mist all over the jungle, you know, 831 00:56:08,491 --> 00:56:10,534 saying, "Is that the airport over there?" 832 00:56:10,618 --> 00:56:11,619 "No." 833 00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:13,788 "I think that's it. Yeah, come on, that's it." 834 00:56:13,871 --> 00:56:15,307 "Now, that's it a bit to the left, isn't it?" 835 00:56:15,331 --> 00:56:18,018 We're all going, "Oh, what have we got ourselves into here?" you know. 836 00:56:18,042 --> 00:56:22,379 ♪ When your light is on the blink ♪ 837 00:56:22,463 --> 00:56:26,217 ♪ you never think of worrying... 838 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:27,885 It was a bit of a shock. 839 00:56:27,968 --> 00:56:32,515 I thought Lagos was going to be the rhythmic capital of Africa. 840 00:56:32,598 --> 00:56:34,892 I had no research or anything. It just sounded good. 841 00:56:34,975 --> 00:56:40,773 ♪ What's the use of anything? ♪♪ 842 00:56:43,734 --> 00:56:46,487 And then we went down to the studios. 843 00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:49,156 It wasn't at all like Abbey Road. 844 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:50,825 There was no drum booth. 845 00:56:50,908 --> 00:56:54,495 The microphone supply was a cardboard box just full of old mics, 846 00:56:54,578 --> 00:56:56,348 and there was a door at the back of the studio. 847 00:56:56,372 --> 00:56:58,541 You open this door, and that was a pressing plant 848 00:56:58,624 --> 00:57:00,292 where they pressed all the records. 849 00:57:00,376 --> 00:57:04,046 There was like 50, 60 people stamping out records. 850 00:57:09,301 --> 00:57:11,929 We were walking one night, 851 00:57:12,012 --> 00:57:14,807 and people had warned us, said, "Don't walk through this area." 852 00:57:14,890 --> 00:57:16,976 So I said, "Okay, don't you worry." 853 00:57:19,228 --> 00:57:21,021 So a car pulls up. 854 00:57:21,105 --> 00:57:26,861 Car doors fly open, and six guys jump out, and they're mugging us at knife point. 855 00:57:30,197 --> 00:57:33,325 Linda is screaming, "Don't touch him! Don't touch him! 856 00:57:33,409 --> 00:57:35,119 He's a musician!" 857 00:57:35,202 --> 00:57:36,495 As if that's gonna help. 858 00:57:38,289 --> 00:57:40,624 All my demos, all my recordings went. 859 00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:44,563 We got back to the studio, and one of the guys in the studio said, 860 00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:47,214 "You're lucky he didn't kill you." 861 00:57:47,298 --> 00:57:49,341 "Thanks a lot. Should we make a record?" 862 00:57:56,557 --> 00:58:00,728 ♪ Oh, no one ever left alive in nineteen hundred and eighty-five ♪ 863 00:58:00,811 --> 00:58:03,731 ♪ will ever do ♪ 864 00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:07,026 ♪ She may be right, she may be fine ♪ 865 00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:08,986 ♪ She may get love, but she won't get mine ♪ 866 00:58:09,069 --> 00:58:12,114 ♪ 'cause I got you ♪ 867 00:58:12,198 --> 00:58:16,202 ♪ Whoa, I ♪ 868 00:58:16,285 --> 00:58:19,705 ♪ Whoa, I... 869 00:58:19,788 --> 00:58:22,333 All we had was us. 870 00:58:22,416 --> 00:58:25,586 We were in a strange land, strange place, 871 00:58:25,669 --> 00:58:27,213 up against the odds in a way. 872 00:58:27,296 --> 00:58:29,757 But it came together. 873 00:58:31,383 --> 00:58:34,511 You have to let stuff go in life. 874 00:58:34,595 --> 00:58:36,805 The guys weren't gonna come to Lagos. 875 00:58:36,889 --> 00:58:39,808 I got angry, then I let it go. 876 00:58:39,892 --> 00:58:43,229 When the demos got stolen, I got angry. 877 00:58:43,312 --> 00:58:45,940 But then I had to let it go. 878 00:59:10,005 --> 00:59:12,341 We had a phone call in the studio. 879 00:59:12,424 --> 00:59:14,468 He had this idea. 880 00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:20,015 Basically, a bunch of celebrities breaking out from a prison wall. 881 00:59:20,099 --> 00:59:22,559 I felt it was a very personal idea. 882 00:59:23,644 --> 00:59:26,647 Suddenly, he's made a breakthrough. 883 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:31,151 ♪ Stuck inside these four walls ♪ 884 00:59:32,820 --> 00:59:35,948 ♪ Sent inside forever ♪ 885 00:59:38,784 --> 00:59:42,371 ♪ Never seeing no one... 886 00:59:42,454 --> 00:59:48,377 A lot of people were kind of on the run round about those early '70s. 887 00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:52,256 A lot of people who'd opted out of society. 888 00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:54,842 Everyone was a desperado. 889 00:59:54,925 --> 00:59:56,343 There's a lot of that. 890 01:00:00,055 --> 01:00:04,101 And you really must stay very still for that one second, please. 891 01:00:11,358 --> 01:00:14,361 ♪ If I ever get out of here ♪ 892 01:00:14,445 --> 01:00:17,072 ♪ thought of giving it all away ♪ 893 01:00:17,156 --> 01:00:20,326 ♪ to a registered charity ♪ 894 01:00:20,409 --> 01:00:22,745 ♪ All I need is a pint a day ♪ 895 01:00:22,828 --> 01:00:25,205 ♪ If I ever get out of here ♪ 896 01:00:25,289 --> 01:00:28,167 ♪ If we ever get out of here ♪ 897 01:00:35,674 --> 01:00:37,134 Ready? Freeze. 898 01:00:42,264 --> 01:00:44,641 Denny, can you lift your head up a bit, please? Okay. 899 01:00:44,725 --> 01:00:48,604 ♪ Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash ♪ 900 01:00:48,687 --> 01:00:51,607 ♪ as we fell into the sun ♪ 901 01:00:52,941 --> 01:00:56,403 ♪ And the first one said to the second one there ♪ 902 01:00:56,487 --> 01:01:00,157 ♪ "I hope you're having fun..." 903 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,245 He wanted to put the past behind you and to keep moving forward. 904 01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:07,873 You know, again, a lot of people criticized Wings. 905 01:01:07,956 --> 01:01:10,292 You know, that's just their take. 906 01:01:10,376 --> 01:01:12,294 But it does force you to say, 907 01:01:12,378 --> 01:01:14,546 "Well, okay, watch this." 908 01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:17,674 ♪ For the band on the run ♪ 909 01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:21,345 ♪ Band on the run... 910 01:01:21,428 --> 01:01:24,765 Paul McCartney's runaway album, now on Apple. 911 01:01:24,848 --> 01:01:27,309 The Beatle with the greatest individual chart success 912 01:01:27,393 --> 01:01:29,978 since their breakup has been Paul McCartney. 913 01:01:30,062 --> 01:01:32,898 This album is much nicer than the previous ones. 914 01:01:32,981 --> 01:01:36,235 This time, I don't care if people don't like it, 'cause I like it. 915 01:01:36,318 --> 01:01:39,696 ♪ Yeah, the band on the run... 916 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:43,492 It was made up, you know. It was like homemade Wings. 917 01:01:43,575 --> 01:01:45,744 It was about trying to do something different, 918 01:01:45,828 --> 01:01:50,249 trying to break loose of all the sort of traditions that you've grown up with. 919 01:01:50,332 --> 01:01:52,376 It's about freedom. 920 01:01:56,004 --> 01:01:58,404 Yeah, it was great. Thank you very much. It was really great. 921 01:01:58,465 --> 01:01:59,776 You really look like you do in the pictures. 922 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,009 All right, fellas. 923 01:02:02,386 --> 01:02:04,888 A lot of critics reckon that it wasn't until Band on the Run 924 01:02:04,972 --> 01:02:08,183 that you actually sort of came of age, in fact, after your time in the Beatles. 925 01:02:08,267 --> 01:02:11,019 -Would you agree with that? -Uh, no. 926 01:02:14,606 --> 01:02:17,776 And now, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to present to you. 927 01:02:17,860 --> 01:02:20,362 Miss Mary McCartney singing a song of her own choice. 928 01:02:20,446 --> 01:02:22,656 Over to you, Mary. Opportunity knocks. 929 01:02:24,074 --> 01:02:27,619 ♪ Baa, baa, black sheep ♪ 930 01:02:27,703 --> 01:02:30,873 ♪ have you any wool? ♪ 931 01:02:30,956 --> 01:02:34,251 ♪ Yes, sir, yes, sir ♪ 932 01:02:34,334 --> 01:02:36,962 ♪ three bags full... 933 01:02:37,045 --> 01:02:39,465 We were all each other's own entertainment. 934 01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:43,802 You know, we would do, like, face painting or... 935 01:02:43,886 --> 01:02:46,013 I don't know. We were just... 936 01:02:46,096 --> 01:02:48,724 It was sort of anything goes. 937 01:02:54,146 --> 01:02:57,024 They both lost their mothers at a very young age. 938 01:02:57,858 --> 01:03:01,320 That is why family was so important to them. 939 01:03:01,403 --> 01:03:04,740 Because they realized it could go at any point. 940 01:03:04,823 --> 01:03:07,034 ♪ - Oh ♪ 941 01:03:07,117 --> 01:03:11,580 ♪ When I get feverish high again ♪ 942 01:03:11,663 --> 01:03:14,291 ♪ nobody's letting me by ♪ 943 01:03:14,374 --> 01:03:18,837 ♪ I want someone who's holding my hand ♪ 944 01:03:18,921 --> 01:03:21,715 ♪ in the nighttime ♪ 945 01:03:21,798 --> 01:03:23,884 ♪ loving me right ♪ 946 01:03:23,967 --> 01:03:27,221 ♪ Loving is all I need... 947 01:03:27,304 --> 01:03:30,682 My mum died when I was 14. 948 01:03:30,766 --> 01:03:34,228 It just hit me so hard. 949 01:03:34,311 --> 01:03:37,523 I would tend to throw myself into work. 950 01:03:37,606 --> 01:03:39,608 That's just my character, you know. 951 01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:42,444 He can't keep still. 952 01:03:42,528 --> 01:03:45,280 His mind's always on the go. 953 01:03:45,364 --> 01:03:47,115 He's a workaholic. 954 01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:48,992 People use that word. 955 01:03:49,076 --> 01:03:52,079 I don't know. We don't work music, we play it. 956 01:03:52,162 --> 01:03:55,040 So maybe I'm a playaholic. 957 01:03:55,123 --> 01:03:57,834 ♪ All of you ♪ 958 01:03:57,918 --> 01:04:02,047 ♪ On and on in my hand ♪ 959 01:04:02,130 --> 01:04:04,967 ♪ Nobody may understand ♪ 960 01:04:05,050 --> 01:04:07,844 ♪ woman of mine ♪ 961 01:04:07,928 --> 01:04:09,888 ♪ Oh, right on time ♪ 962 01:04:09,972 --> 01:04:13,892 ♪ Oh, woman, you're mine ♪♪ 963 01:04:22,901 --> 01:04:25,070 Uh, would you excuse me for a moment? 964 01:04:25,153 --> 01:04:27,364 As you can hear, the phone's ringing in the background. 965 01:04:27,447 --> 01:04:28,907 I must answer. 966 01:04:28,991 --> 01:04:30,826 Excuse, please. 967 01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:31,952 Hello? 968 01:04:32,035 --> 01:04:34,246 May I speak with Mrs. McCartney, please? 969 01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:35,706 Oh, she's out at the moment. 970 01:04:35,789 --> 01:04:37,416 Can I ring her later? 971 01:04:37,499 --> 01:04:38,875 What time is it now? 972 01:04:38,959 --> 01:04:40,877 It's just after 3. 973 01:04:40,961 --> 01:04:42,588 Just after 3 o' the clock? 974 01:04:42,671 --> 01:04:43,880 Yes. I'll ring back, then. 975 01:04:43,964 --> 01:04:45,966 You do that. Alright cheerio. 976 01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:54,308 We'd been waiting around till we had, you know, 977 01:04:54,391 --> 01:04:56,768 enough songs for a big world tour. 978 01:04:57,644 --> 01:05:00,272 And that was the prize. 979 01:05:00,355 --> 01:05:04,693 So I put a new band together, Wings Mark II. 980 01:05:04,776 --> 01:05:05,777 Right. 981 01:05:05,861 --> 01:05:07,404 One, two. 982 01:05:07,487 --> 01:05:09,740 One, two, three, four! 983 01:05:24,379 --> 01:05:28,383 ♪ Well, people gathered here tonight ♪ 984 01:05:28,467 --> 01:05:30,719 ♪ I want you to listen to me... 985 01:05:31,803 --> 01:05:36,141 I'd seen a guitar player who was a very young guy, kind of whiz kid. 986 01:05:36,224 --> 01:05:38,560 This was Jimmy McCulloch. 987 01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:42,648 And Geoff Britton, solid rock and roll drummer. 988 01:05:42,731 --> 01:05:45,400 Musically, the band is great. 989 01:05:45,484 --> 01:05:47,986 If you listen to One Hand Clapping, 990 01:05:48,070 --> 01:05:50,280 it's the ballsiest thing he's ever recorded. 991 01:05:50,364 --> 01:05:54,117 ♪ And a commie with a Tommy gun ♪ 992 01:05:54,201 --> 01:05:57,788 ♪ Soily, soily ♪ 993 01:05:57,871 --> 01:06:00,332 ♪ Well, the cat in the satin trousers said it's oily ♪ 994 01:06:00,415 --> 01:06:05,087 ♪ Yeah, soily, soily ♪ 995 01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:07,673 ♪ Well, the cat in the satin trousers said it's oily ♪ 996 01:06:07,756 --> 01:06:09,508 ♪ And you know he's right ♪ 997 01:06:15,847 --> 01:06:17,474 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪♪ 998 01:06:30,278 --> 01:06:32,239 -No, it's the drum. -The drum... 999 01:06:34,825 --> 01:06:35,867 It comes in... 1000 01:06:35,951 --> 01:06:37,828 The drum comes in one beat too early. 1001 01:06:37,911 --> 01:06:39,471 No, it doesn't. Comes in a bit too late. 1002 01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:40,848 Okay, let's just do another take of it. 1003 01:06:40,872 --> 01:06:42,433 -But that was good, though, innit? -Yeah. 1004 01:06:42,457 --> 01:06:44,167 Just do another take on it, I think. 1005 01:06:44,251 --> 01:06:47,170 But basically the ingredients were wrong. 1006 01:06:48,255 --> 01:06:51,633 He wants you all to be normal and equal. 1007 01:06:51,717 --> 01:06:55,011 You ain't normal and equal because he's the world superstar 1008 01:06:55,095 --> 01:06:57,347 and you're a dog face nobody. 1009 01:07:08,608 --> 01:07:11,278 That lineup didn't last very long, either. 1010 01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:17,117 The music always comes first, and if they don't fit into that world, 1011 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,494 they got to go. 1012 01:07:19,578 --> 01:07:21,163 It's funny, the lineup of Wings. 1013 01:07:21,246 --> 01:07:25,584 We got rid of Henry McCullough, and we get in Jimmy McCulloch, spelled differently. 1014 01:07:25,667 --> 01:07:28,587 You got Denny Laine and Denny Seiwell. 1015 01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:30,839 We get rid of Geoff Britton, who's English, 1016 01:07:30,922 --> 01:07:33,884 and get in Joe English, who's American. 1017 01:07:35,177 --> 01:07:37,179 Well, hell, there you go. 1018 01:07:37,262 --> 01:07:39,973 It's just all too confusing. 1019 01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:43,435 But in a way, we invented Spinal Tap. 1020 01:07:48,482 --> 01:07:52,861 I always said to myself, you know, I'm the glorified sideman, 1021 01:07:52,944 --> 01:07:55,113 but it never felt like that. 1022 01:07:55,197 --> 01:07:57,657 It's more like a family. 1023 01:07:57,741 --> 01:07:59,826 Please introduce yourself into the camera, please. 1024 01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:01,995 Hello, everyone. I'm Joe English. 1025 01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:06,374 And I'm from Rochester, New York, in the good old U.S. of A. 1026 01:08:06,458 --> 01:08:10,128 I'm Joe English. I'm from Glasgow, Scotland. 1027 01:08:10,212 --> 01:08:14,424 My name is Joe English, and I was born in Liverpool. 1028 01:08:16,176 --> 01:08:21,306 My name is Joe English, and I was born in New York City. 1029 01:08:21,389 --> 01:08:23,975 And just to be different, my name is Denny Laine. 1030 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,248 ♪ Anytime ♪ 1031 01:08:46,331 --> 01:08:48,458 ♪ any day ♪ 1032 01:08:48,542 --> 01:08:52,212 ♪ you can hear the people say ♪ 1033 01:08:52,295 --> 01:08:54,589 ♪ that love is blind ♪ 1034 01:08:54,673 --> 01:08:57,217 ♪ Well, I don't know, but I say love is kind... 1035 01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:58,426 Whoa, beautiful. 1036 01:08:58,510 --> 01:09:00,178 Beautiful show. 1037 01:09:01,179 --> 01:09:04,558 Growing up in Liverpool, people didn't like bosses. 1038 01:09:04,641 --> 01:09:08,144 There's this thing. It's like a bit us against them. 1039 01:09:08,228 --> 01:09:11,064 I wanted for us all to feel equal, 1040 01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:15,485 but people are looking at Wings as my group. 1041 01:09:15,569 --> 01:09:18,196 So I just decided I'd try and be a good boss. 1042 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,533 ♪ That's what the man said ♪ 1043 01:09:21,616 --> 01:09:23,159 Bring up stage right, 50%. 1044 01:09:23,243 --> 01:09:25,245 ♪ So won't you listen to what the man said... 1045 01:09:25,328 --> 01:09:30,125 We'll only have to do it again when Paul gets here, so we might as well wait. 1046 01:09:30,208 --> 01:09:34,087 ♪ The wonder of it all, baby ♪ 1047 01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,882 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah... 1048 01:09:36,965 --> 01:09:39,426 -You're what, 31 now? -Thirty-three. 1049 01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:41,863 Thirty-three, that's a bit old for rock and roll. 1050 01:09:41,887 --> 01:09:43,781 -Do you think you're past your peak? -It's ancient, ancient. 1051 01:09:43,805 --> 01:09:45,724 Well, I'll tell you what. You come to the show. 1052 01:09:45,807 --> 01:09:48,119 -Do you think you're past your peak? -And after the show... I don't, no. 1053 01:09:48,143 --> 01:09:49,895 I wouldn't be here if I thought I was. 1054 01:09:49,978 --> 01:09:52,772 But you come to see the show, and if you like the show, 1055 01:09:52,856 --> 01:09:55,609 you tell me if I'm over my peak after it, okay? 1056 01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,193 With the new... 1057 01:09:57,277 --> 01:10:00,030 with the new setting on the, uh, Rhodes. 1058 01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:08,330 Is that the normal, uh, volume and stuff there? 1059 01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:10,665 Should be turned full up on the bass and... 1060 01:10:10,749 --> 01:10:13,251 Okay, that's what it normally is, actually. 1061 01:10:14,544 --> 01:10:19,341 He was definitely anxious about how it was going to be received. 1062 01:10:21,217 --> 01:10:23,887 This was the first time with big crowds. 1063 01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:27,474 You could understand, he felt this great weight of responsibility. 1064 01:10:27,557 --> 01:10:29,601 Is this going to work? 1065 01:10:38,902 --> 01:10:41,613 It was a scary moment. 1066 01:10:41,696 --> 01:10:46,868 Why do I carve out these problems for myself? 1067 01:10:50,789 --> 01:10:54,000 Just before the tour, we went to Hawaii. 1068 01:10:54,084 --> 01:10:56,795 I think it was just a holiday or something. 1069 01:10:56,878 --> 01:10:59,589 And it was a strange house that we'd rented. 1070 01:10:59,673 --> 01:11:00,882 Don't Go Near the Water. 1071 01:11:03,718 --> 01:11:06,680 The swimming wasn't off a beach. 1072 01:11:06,763 --> 01:11:09,265 It was off, like, a sort of little cliff thing. 1073 01:11:09,349 --> 01:11:11,101 And then when I wanted to get out, 1074 01:11:11,184 --> 01:11:15,271 what you did, you waited for the wave to come in, 1075 01:11:15,355 --> 01:11:18,942 and it brought you high enough to get onto the top of the cliff. 1076 01:11:21,778 --> 01:11:23,655 Then the weather changed. 1077 01:11:27,283 --> 01:11:28,910 Well, this doesn't matter. 1078 01:11:28,994 --> 01:11:31,579 You know, I still know how to get in and out. 1079 01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:39,004 So I went in, as usual, on my own. 1080 01:11:39,087 --> 01:11:41,256 Swam around for a little bit. 1081 01:11:41,339 --> 01:11:42,966 I thought, "Right, get out now." 1082 01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:46,886 And I jumped up, but now the wave just sort of dumped me in the water. 1083 01:11:49,014 --> 01:11:52,892 Beatles in a performance all dressed in red carnations, 1084 01:11:52,976 --> 01:11:55,562 and Paul is wearing a black iris. 1085 01:11:55,645 --> 01:11:58,732 So I'm swimming around in white water now. 1086 01:11:58,815 --> 01:12:01,693 I'm getting a little bit tired. I see the next wave coming in. 1087 01:12:01,776 --> 01:12:04,696 It swells up, and I go, "Okay, let's go." 1088 01:12:04,779 --> 01:12:06,698 No, dumped. 1089 01:12:08,616 --> 01:12:10,994 So now I'm getting worried, 1090 01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:13,621 and I'm in this white water, feel like I'm in a washing machine. 1091 01:12:17,542 --> 01:12:19,919 But I just had to push through all that. 1092 01:12:21,921 --> 01:12:28,428 So I say to God, "Okay, Lord, I'll give it everything I've got. 1093 01:12:28,511 --> 01:12:30,138 Just dump me out." 1094 01:12:35,643 --> 01:12:36,895 ♪ Come on, now ♪ 1095 01:12:40,565 --> 01:12:43,276 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 1096 01:12:47,113 --> 01:12:49,074 ♪ Oh, come on, baby ♪ 1097 01:12:50,575 --> 01:12:53,578 ♪ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 1098 01:12:58,792 --> 01:13:00,335 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1099 01:13:00,418 --> 01:13:01,753 ♪ Jet ♪ 1100 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,006 ♪ Jet ♪ 1101 01:13:07,342 --> 01:13:08,343 ♪ Jet ♪ 1102 01:13:08,426 --> 01:13:13,264 ♪ I can almost remember their funny faces ♪ 1103 01:13:14,641 --> 01:13:20,396 ♪ that time you told them that you were gonna be marrying soon ♪ 1104 01:13:21,731 --> 01:13:24,567 ♪ And, Jet ♪ 1105 01:13:24,651 --> 01:13:30,240 ♪ I thought the only lonely place was on the moon ♪ 1106 01:13:30,323 --> 01:13:32,992 ♪ Jet, ooh ♪ 1107 01:13:33,993 --> 01:13:36,913 ♪ Jet, ooh ♪ 1108 01:13:37,539 --> 01:13:40,750 ♪ Ah, mater ♪ 1109 01:13:40,834 --> 01:13:44,546 ♪ I want Jet to always love me ♪ 1110 01:13:44,629 --> 01:13:47,924 ♪ Ah, mater ♪ 1111 01:13:48,007 --> 01:13:51,511 ♪ I want Jet to always love me ♪ 1112 01:13:51,594 --> 01:13:54,597 ♪ Ah, mater ♪ 1113 01:13:55,473 --> 01:13:57,976 ♪ Much later ♪ 1114 01:13:58,059 --> 01:13:59,227 ♪ Ooh, she said ♪ 1115 01:14:01,688 --> 01:14:02,856 ♪ Whoo, she said ♪ 1116 01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:07,861 ♪ Oh, yeah, Jet... 1117 01:14:07,944 --> 01:14:10,572 McCartney has just been told that a planned tour of Japan 1118 01:14:10,655 --> 01:14:14,868 had been canceled because of a conviction in Britain for possessing cannabis. 1119 01:14:14,951 --> 01:14:17,453 Hello, people of Japan. 1120 01:14:17,537 --> 01:14:22,333 This is Paul McCartney of Wings saying that, uh, we're very sorry 1121 01:14:22,417 --> 01:14:26,254 that we can't come to Japan to play our music to you this time. 1122 01:14:26,337 --> 01:14:30,258 But if the Minister of Justice says we can't come in, then we can't come in. 1123 01:14:30,341 --> 01:14:32,927 Thank you! 1124 01:14:33,011 --> 01:14:34,053 All right! 1125 01:14:34,137 --> 01:14:35,722 How important is it to you 1126 01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:38,433 to perform before a live audience in this way? 1127 01:14:38,516 --> 01:14:42,061 I mean, most people think of you as being a very rich man who presumably would have 1128 01:14:42,145 --> 01:14:44,981 no need at all to perform before a live audience ever again... 1129 01:14:45,064 --> 01:14:46,274 Well, I'll tell you. 1130 01:14:46,357 --> 01:14:47,775 Uh, we were in Nashville, 1131 01:14:47,859 --> 01:14:50,653 and have you ever heard of a guitar player called Jerry Reed? 1132 01:14:50,737 --> 01:14:54,115 And we were talking to him, and I was saying that I was gonna go on the road. 1133 01:14:54,199 --> 01:14:57,493 And he said, "Man, if I was Paul McCartney, I'd buy the road." 1134 01:15:13,259 --> 01:15:15,136 Australia and Europe 1135 01:15:15,220 --> 01:15:18,932 was really the grounding to get it great for America. 1136 01:15:20,183 --> 01:15:22,977 It was what we'd been building towards. 1137 01:15:23,061 --> 01:15:25,480 And, you know, we felt we'd finally arrived. 1138 01:15:27,398 --> 01:15:30,276 Second time round. 1139 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,446 ♪ Someone knocking at the door ♪ 1140 01:15:33,529 --> 01:15:35,990 ♪ Somebody ringing the bell ♪ 1141 01:15:36,074 --> 01:15:38,952 ♪ Someone's knocking at the door ♪ 1142 01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:41,829 ♪ Somebody's ringing the bell ♪ 1143 01:15:41,913 --> 01:15:43,456 ♪ Do me a favor ♪ 1144 01:15:43,539 --> 01:15:45,541 ♪ Open the door ♪ 1145 01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:48,711 ♪ and let 'em in ♪ 1146 01:15:48,795 --> 01:15:50,588 ♪ Ooh, yeah ♪ 1147 01:15:50,672 --> 01:15:52,548 The response was Beatlemania. 1148 01:15:52,632 --> 01:15:53,943 ♪ Someone's knocking at the door... 1149 01:15:53,967 --> 01:15:57,804 I think the moment he stepped onto that stage, 1150 01:15:57,887 --> 01:16:01,474 he felt, "You know what? I can do this. 1151 01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:03,893 I know what I'm doing. 1152 01:16:03,977 --> 01:16:06,145 I'm back." 1153 01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:07,689 ♪ Let 'em in ♪ 1154 01:16:12,652 --> 01:16:15,113 Paul McCartney is the only one of the four 1155 01:16:15,196 --> 01:16:18,408 to have survived the first part of the 1970s. 1156 01:16:18,491 --> 01:16:20,952 He's a fleshier, heavier Beatle these days. 1157 01:16:22,287 --> 01:16:26,541 Critically, his new groups haven't been acclaimed like the Beatles, 1158 01:16:26,624 --> 01:16:29,544 but there can be no doubt about their pulling power. 1159 01:16:30,628 --> 01:16:33,256 ♪ Sister Suzy ♪ 1160 01:16:33,339 --> 01:16:34,757 ♪ Brother John ♪ 1161 01:16:36,467 --> 01:16:37,844 ♪ Martin Luther ♪ 1162 01:16:39,095 --> 01:16:42,056 ♪ Phil and Don, yeah, yeah ♪ 1163 01:16:42,140 --> 01:16:43,850 ♪ Uncle Ernie ♪ 1164 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:45,601 ♪ Auntie Jin ♪ 1165 01:16:47,228 --> 01:16:48,813 ♪ Open the door ♪ 1166 01:16:48,896 --> 01:16:54,110 ♪ Let 'em in ♪ 1167 01:16:54,193 --> 01:16:55,862 ♪ Oh, yeah, yeah♪♪ 1168 01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:57,280 Wrong airport? 1169 01:16:57,363 --> 01:16:58,632 -We'll go to the other airport. -No. No. 1170 01:16:58,656 --> 01:17:00,450 The limos and the police escort are there. 1171 01:17:00,533 --> 01:17:02,136 Rather than waiting for him to try and get the... 1172 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,679 -Let's just get taxis. -Let's take taxis, man. 1173 01:17:03,703 --> 01:17:05,663 Let's get two taxis. 1174 01:17:05,747 --> 01:17:07,790 Hello, cabbages! 1175 01:17:07,874 --> 01:17:10,585 -Hello, cabbages! -Hello, Mary. 1176 01:17:10,668 --> 01:17:12,795 Not that! 1177 01:17:12,879 --> 01:17:14,464 Hello, cabbages! 1178 01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:15,840 And your kangaroo! 1179 01:17:15,923 --> 01:17:18,384 And don't boil yourself twice. 1180 01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:20,178 Did you get your lettuce? 1181 01:17:20,261 --> 01:17:22,221 Can I tell you something? 1182 01:17:22,305 --> 01:17:24,015 -Yeah, lettuce. -Oh, lettuce. 1183 01:17:24,098 --> 01:17:27,101 -I thought you said "letters." -Can I tell you something? 1184 01:17:27,185 --> 01:17:29,812 Yeah, I got, I got a whole head. 1185 01:17:29,896 --> 01:17:31,522 I like the shows a lot. 1186 01:17:31,606 --> 01:17:33,000 It's better than I thought it would be. 1187 01:17:33,024 --> 01:17:35,985 I'm not really one for being, quote, "on the road." 1188 01:17:36,069 --> 01:17:37,487 I'm more of a homebody. 1189 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:46,329 She was, like, self-styled, and it was the coolest fucking look on earth. 1190 01:17:46,412 --> 01:17:47,455 On earth. 1191 01:17:47,538 --> 01:17:49,999 Which should I wear? 1192 01:17:50,083 --> 01:17:51,793 I'd like to see you wear that. 1193 01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:54,021 -I like that. With jeans. -With... with what skirt, though? 1194 01:17:54,045 --> 01:17:56,714 -Wear your jeans. -Wear your jeans. 1195 01:17:56,798 --> 01:18:00,718 And it was, I'm sorry, like, so ahead of its time. 1196 01:18:00,802 --> 01:18:03,471 There's people I know that their entire music career 1197 01:18:03,554 --> 01:18:07,350 isn't based on the Beatles and Wings, it was based on her. 1198 01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:10,603 And no cook and no driver. 1199 01:18:12,605 --> 01:18:14,732 I don't know how she did it. 1200 01:18:16,526 --> 01:18:19,028 Oh, man, that was such a groovy gig. 1201 01:18:20,363 --> 01:18:22,490 All right, all right, all right. 1202 01:18:25,576 --> 01:18:28,996 The McCartney show is getting two encore calls a night, 1203 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,041 and the highlight to every concert is "Yesterday." 1204 01:18:32,125 --> 01:18:37,213 At one time in Wings tours, Paul refused to do any Beatles songs. 1205 01:18:37,296 --> 01:18:39,799 Now, with most of the legal troubles behind him, 1206 01:18:39,882 --> 01:18:45,012 McCartney was comfortable selecting Beatles tunes for the Wings show. 1207 01:18:45,096 --> 01:18:47,765 I'll tell you the truth. It was too painful. 1208 01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:49,434 It was too much of a kind of trauma. 1209 01:18:49,517 --> 01:18:53,521 It was like reliving a sort of weird dream, doing a Beatle tune. 1210 01:18:54,897 --> 01:18:57,900 I'll see if you remember this one. Okay. 1211 01:19:02,822 --> 01:19:05,658 ♪ Once a jolly swagman... ♪ 1212 01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:07,076 No. 1213 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,162 It's not that one. 1214 01:19:09,245 --> 01:19:14,208 In America, there was a huge nostalgia industry. 1215 01:19:14,292 --> 01:19:15,793 How long have you been a Beatle fan? 1216 01:19:15,877 --> 01:19:17,795 How long have there been Beatles? 1217 01:19:17,879 --> 01:19:22,758 There were bizarre film projects and stage shows. 1218 01:19:22,842 --> 01:19:25,344 Fans started to organize Beatles conventions 1219 01:19:25,428 --> 01:19:27,930 where people could buy records and so on. 1220 01:19:28,014 --> 01:19:29,932 Even one-inch squares of a sheet 1221 01:19:30,016 --> 01:19:32,643 on which Ringo Starr slept are available. 1222 01:19:32,727 --> 01:19:36,022 Do you feel any kind of, uh, hesitation 1223 01:19:36,105 --> 01:19:37,565 about the fact that you will always, 1224 01:19:37,648 --> 01:19:41,194 in all probability, be identified as a former Beatle? 1225 01:19:43,362 --> 01:19:44,697 ♪ When you were young ♪ 1226 01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:49,118 ♪ and your heart was an open book ♪ 1227 01:19:50,953 --> 01:19:54,957 ♪ you used to say, "Live and let live..." 1228 01:19:55,041 --> 01:19:57,543 There was a big thing about: Will the Beatles reunite? 1229 01:19:57,627 --> 01:20:00,004 Because that somehow got out as a rumor. 1230 01:20:00,087 --> 01:20:03,424 Of course now, with Paul, uh, playing at the Garden tonight and tomorrow night, 1231 01:20:03,508 --> 01:20:05,134 there seems to be a lot of speculation 1232 01:20:05,218 --> 01:20:07,720 that there's a chance maybe John would show up. 1233 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:09,263 There has been a report recently 1234 01:20:09,347 --> 01:20:12,058 that you have said that you might get back with the Beatles. 1235 01:20:12,141 --> 01:20:13,952 There's been a lot of talk and rumors of the Beatles 1236 01:20:13,976 --> 01:20:15,746 getting back together again for one last concert. 1237 01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:18,189 If the Beatles ever got back together for one performance... 1238 01:20:18,272 --> 01:20:20,149 Are the Beatles gonna get back together again? 1239 01:20:20,233 --> 01:20:21,400 Is it likely to happen? 1240 01:20:21,484 --> 01:20:22,693 Are there any circumstances? 1241 01:20:22,777 --> 01:20:24,046 -Do you think that... -The Beatles. 1242 01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:25,130 -The Beatles... -The Beatles... 1243 01:20:25,154 --> 01:20:26,155 The Beatles... 1244 01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:27,448 What about the Beatles? 1245 01:20:27,532 --> 01:20:29,325 ♪ Live and let die ♪ 1246 01:20:32,245 --> 01:20:34,330 ♪ Live and let die ♪ 1247 01:20:35,998 --> 01:20:38,251 ♪ Live and let die ♪ 1248 01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:42,046 ♪ Live and let die ♪ 1249 01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:44,799 Paul McCartney's first concert 1250 01:20:44,882 --> 01:20:46,551 at Madison Square Garden in over 12 years 1251 01:20:46,634 --> 01:20:48,928 has been going on for more than two hours now, 1252 01:20:49,011 --> 01:20:50,680 and so far, no Beatle bulletins. 1253 01:20:50,763 --> 01:20:52,098 Will it happen tomorrow night? 1254 01:20:52,181 --> 01:20:54,600 We don't know, but we will be there to find out. 1255 01:20:58,437 --> 01:21:00,565 Promoters have been offering millions of dollars 1256 01:21:00,648 --> 01:21:03,734 if they just step onto the same stage for just one more concert. 1257 01:21:03,818 --> 01:21:06,070 A West Coast promoter has offered to pay the four 1258 01:21:06,153 --> 01:21:09,073 a cool $50 million for a reunion. 1259 01:21:09,156 --> 01:21:12,493 We're talking about a potential to the Beatles of up to $100 million. 1260 01:21:12,577 --> 01:21:14,787 Now the United Nations is involved. 1261 01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:17,331 Two hundred and fifty million dollars. 1262 01:21:18,332 --> 01:21:21,627 ♪ What does it matter to ya? ♪ 1263 01:21:21,711 --> 01:21:23,504 ♪ When you got a job to do ♪ 1264 01:21:23,588 --> 01:21:26,507 ♪ you got to do it well ♪ 1265 01:21:26,591 --> 01:21:32,013 ♪ You gotta give the other fella hell ♪♪ 1266 01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:35,266 Now here it is, as you can see, 1267 01:21:35,349 --> 01:21:37,893 a check made out to you, the Beatles, 1268 01:21:37,977 --> 01:21:41,063 for $3,000. 1269 01:21:41,147 --> 01:21:45,276 All you have to do is sing three Beatle tunes. 1270 01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:47,028 "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah." 1271 01:21:47,111 --> 01:21:49,238 That's $1,000 right there. 1272 01:21:50,740 --> 01:21:54,785 Me and Linda were over to John's apartment at the Dakota. 1273 01:21:54,869 --> 01:21:58,080 He said, "Oh, this is a big show over here, Saturday Night Live." 1274 01:21:58,164 --> 01:22:01,667 In my book, the Beatles are the best thing that ever happened to music. 1275 01:22:01,751 --> 01:22:03,002 It goes even deeper than that. 1276 01:22:03,085 --> 01:22:05,022 You're not just a musical group, you're a part of us. 1277 01:22:05,046 --> 01:22:06,130 We grew up with you. 1278 01:22:08,424 --> 01:22:09,967 We got kind of excited. 1279 01:22:10,051 --> 01:22:12,094 We just go down, we show up. Hey! 1280 01:22:12,178 --> 01:22:15,389 It's Saturday Night Live! 1281 01:22:16,599 --> 01:22:18,893 But it was like, why? 1282 01:22:18,976 --> 01:22:20,895 You know, I mean, it'd be great for them. 1283 01:22:20,978 --> 01:22:22,813 Would it be great for us? 1284 01:22:22,897 --> 01:22:28,152 We've come full circle, and now we're off on another journey. 1285 01:22:28,235 --> 01:22:32,990 So we just decided to just have another cup of tea and forget the whole idea. 1286 01:22:37,036 --> 01:22:38,371 Rolling. 1287 01:22:51,384 --> 01:22:54,053 The kind of thing we do at the sessions all the time, you know. 1288 01:22:54,136 --> 01:22:55,721 Just bring horses in. 1289 01:22:57,181 --> 01:23:00,267 A lot of bands take themselves quite seriously. 1290 01:23:02,186 --> 01:23:04,605 And we were like, "Eh, what the heck? 1291 01:23:04,689 --> 01:23:06,524 Yeah, we're musicians, but we're having fun." 1292 01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:07,608 Yeah. 1293 01:23:07,692 --> 01:23:09,652 Come on, see the folks. 1294 01:23:09,735 --> 01:23:11,153 What's wrong with that? 1295 01:23:11,237 --> 01:23:13,447 Well, should we do a little bit better one, Joe, 1296 01:23:13,531 --> 01:23:15,199 then go and have a listen to it? 1297 01:23:15,282 --> 01:23:18,035 It's that kind of, the-the groove, the sort of... 1298 01:23:18,119 --> 01:23:21,205 ♪ Hey, I'm dancing and I'm bopping in the disc ♪ 1299 01:23:21,288 --> 01:23:22,540 ♪ And, oh, what fun ♪♪ 1300 01:23:22,623 --> 01:23:24,834 You know, even through the kind of spacey sections. 1301 01:23:26,544 --> 01:23:28,838 Wh-Whoa, this is all happening. 1302 01:23:28,921 --> 01:23:30,256 Here we go. 1303 01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:32,216 One, two, three, four. 1304 01:23:37,346 --> 01:23:38,931 That's the tempo. 1305 01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:52,778 ♪ You'd think that people would've had enough of silly love songs ♪ 1306 01:23:55,656 --> 01:24:00,035 ♪ But I look around me, and I see it isn't so ♪ 1307 01:24:03,497 --> 01:24:08,794 ♪ Some people want to fill the world with silly love songs ♪ 1308 01:24:09,962 --> 01:24:14,133 ♪ What's wrong with that? ♪ 1309 01:24:14,216 --> 01:24:17,261 ♪ I'd like to know ♪ 1310 01:24:18,429 --> 01:24:21,974 ♪ 'Cause here I go ♪ 1311 01:24:22,057 --> 01:24:25,186 ♪ again ♪ 1312 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,150 ♪ I love you ♪ 1313 01:24:32,985 --> 01:24:33,985 Sing it if you know it. 1314 01:24:34,028 --> 01:24:36,030 ♪I... 1315 01:24:36,113 --> 01:24:39,950 We kind of proved ourselves, and the word spread that, like, this was a good show. 1316 01:24:40,034 --> 01:24:41,452 Never mind the Beatles. 1317 01:24:41,535 --> 01:24:44,330 Splashed across the cover of this week's Time magazine, 1318 01:24:44,413 --> 01:24:46,874 and the sound of his new band is sweeping the land 1319 01:24:46,957 --> 01:24:49,460 with a new sound for a new generation. 1320 01:24:49,543 --> 01:24:51,646 They say a lot of people think, "Oh, well, you could never come back, 1321 01:24:51,670 --> 01:24:54,065 "you know, once you've been in the Beatles," but there's a lot of people 1322 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:57,009 who don't even care that it's not the same as the Beatles. 1323 01:24:57,092 --> 01:25:00,179 And I'm basically one of them, or else I wouldn't have dared come. 1324 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,770 McCartney has returned to the U.S. victorious, 1325 01:25:07,853 --> 01:25:11,732 and with a band that provides the popular music event of the year. 1326 01:25:12,942 --> 01:25:14,610 ♪ Love doesn't come in a minute ♪ 1327 01:25:16,862 --> 01:25:19,824 ♪ Sometimes it doesn't come at all ♪ 1328 01:25:20,699 --> 01:25:23,828 ♪ I only know that when I'm in it ♪ 1329 01:25:23,911 --> 01:25:26,413 ♪ oh, it isn't silly ♪ 1330 01:25:26,497 --> 01:25:28,290 ♪ No, it isn't silly ♪ 1331 01:25:28,374 --> 01:25:32,962 ♪ Love isn't silly at all ♪ 1332 01:25:33,045 --> 01:25:34,213 ♪ Yeah, yeah... 1333 01:25:49,562 --> 01:25:54,525 There is a joy in having a band and playing live. 1334 01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:58,237 In a way, it's the payoff. 1335 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,073 You've written it in a little cupboard somewhere, 1336 01:26:01,156 --> 01:26:06,495 you've rehearsed it, and if they like it, it's really special. 1337 01:26:06,579 --> 01:26:10,207 That's what we set out to do when we started Wings, 1338 01:26:10,291 --> 01:26:15,671 from square one to when it arrived at square a hundred. 1339 01:26:15,754 --> 01:26:17,798 I thought, "Yeah, it's the payoff." 1340 01:26:17,882 --> 01:26:19,133 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1341 01:26:26,348 --> 01:26:28,350 ♪ Yeah, yeah♪♪ 1342 01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:32,855 See you next time. 1343 01:26:32,938 --> 01:26:35,357 Right now I'm speaking to you from a backstage phone 1344 01:26:35,441 --> 01:26:36,859 at Madison Square Garden, 1345 01:26:36,942 --> 01:26:40,029 and sorry to say this week's hottest rumor will remain just that. 1346 01:26:40,112 --> 01:26:42,281 Just Paul McCartney & Wings, 1347 01:26:42,364 --> 01:26:44,909 and for everyone here tonight, that seemed to be plenty. 1348 01:26:44,992 --> 01:26:47,328 From Madison Square Garden, this is Bob O'Brien reporting. 1349 01:26:49,747 --> 01:26:51,749 Honest, I know him. I know him, honest. 1350 01:26:51,832 --> 01:26:54,072 It's all right! He's with the group! He's with the group! 1351 01:26:56,045 --> 01:26:57,338 Well, that wasn't bad. 1352 01:27:06,430 --> 01:27:09,934 It's the first time I ever saw a Beatle, you know, and it was really... 1353 01:27:10,017 --> 01:27:12,078 Since I was a kid, you know, I really wanted to do that, 1354 01:27:12,102 --> 01:27:13,437 and it was really great. 1355 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,815 It's really a group now, compared to what the Beatles were. 1356 01:27:16,899 --> 01:27:18,108 It's Wings. 1357 01:27:18,817 --> 01:27:20,986 It's unbelievable. 1358 01:27:22,655 --> 01:27:25,991 I'm not so sure how much celebrity and fame and success 1359 01:27:26,075 --> 01:27:28,410 actually changes an individual. 1360 01:27:29,161 --> 01:27:32,039 I think the world around you changes. 1361 01:27:32,122 --> 01:27:35,000 But I think the person pretty much remains the same. 1362 01:27:37,044 --> 01:27:40,297 In Liverpool, the club which took the Cavern's name 1363 01:27:40,381 --> 01:27:42,549 now caters for new bands, 1364 01:27:42,633 --> 01:27:48,263 and the punks who go there don't revere Paul or the memory of the Fab Four. 1365 01:27:48,347 --> 01:27:51,767 We got, uh, a birthday card for John Lennon on his birthday. 1366 01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:54,269 -What, this year? -Yes. Oh, yes, October. 1367 01:27:54,353 --> 01:27:55,938 And what do you do with that? 1368 01:27:56,021 --> 01:27:58,315 Throw it in the bin. 1369 01:28:01,944 --> 01:28:03,612 When you are 17, 18, 1370 01:28:03,696 --> 01:28:08,283 it's very difficult to identify with people who are the older age group. 1371 01:28:08,367 --> 01:28:12,287 I know when I was 18, I thought 25 was like the end of the world, you know. 1372 01:28:13,372 --> 01:28:15,874 But now I'm past 35. 1373 01:28:15,958 --> 01:28:18,961 I don't kind of think in those terms anymore. 1374 01:28:21,547 --> 01:28:24,633 ♪ Mull of Kintyre ♪ 1375 01:28:24,717 --> 01:28:31,265 ♪ Oh, mist rolling in from the sea ♪ 1376 01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:33,809 ♪ My desire ♪ 1377 01:28:33,892 --> 01:28:38,480 ♪ is always to be here ♪ 1378 01:28:38,564 --> 01:28:43,402 ♪ Oh, Mull of Kintyre... 1379 01:28:43,485 --> 01:28:45,821 I go out to Paul's house at breakfast... 1380 01:28:46,780 --> 01:28:50,242 and I said, "Is that an authentic Scottish song?" 1381 01:28:50,325 --> 01:28:52,578 And he said, "No, I just made it up." 1382 01:28:52,661 --> 01:28:57,166 He was iffy about it, but at the same time, knowing Paul, 1383 01:28:57,249 --> 01:29:00,627 if somebody says no, he'll want to do it more. 1384 01:29:03,338 --> 01:29:07,968 So we just looked around and came up with a lyric. 1385 01:29:08,052 --> 01:29:11,722 ♪ Far have I traveled ♪ 1386 01:29:11,805 --> 01:29:16,185 ♪ and much have I seen... 1387 01:29:17,019 --> 01:29:19,438 Recorded it outside. 1388 01:29:19,521 --> 01:29:22,900 You couldn't get that sound anywhere else. 1389 01:29:24,318 --> 01:29:27,154 Then I thought, "Got to have bagpipes on it." 1390 01:29:27,237 --> 01:29:30,741 I would think that the bagpipes suggested themselves. 1391 01:29:30,824 --> 01:29:31,909 Come on. 1392 01:29:32,826 --> 01:29:36,205 So I got the local pipe-band to come up. 1393 01:29:37,289 --> 01:29:40,000 Paul said, "Just play what you feel." 1394 01:29:40,084 --> 01:29:42,711 He wants to hear what a pipe-band would sound like. 1395 01:29:44,296 --> 01:29:46,882 So we had a couple of McEwans and off we went. 1396 01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:10,906 Personally, I'm a fan of timelessness. 1397 01:30:10,989 --> 01:30:14,618 It transports you, and you're not in a scene, 1398 01:30:14,701 --> 01:30:16,370 and you're not in a year. 1399 01:30:16,453 --> 01:30:19,373 He makes timeless music. 1400 01:30:19,456 --> 01:30:22,626 Whereas, if you listen to a punk record, it does feel dated. 1401 01:30:22,709 --> 01:30:27,840 ♪ The Mull of Kintyre ♪ 1402 01:30:28,924 --> 01:30:31,969 ♪ Mull of Kintyre ♪ 1403 01:30:32,052 --> 01:30:37,516 ♪ Oh, mist rolling in from the sea ♪ 1404 01:30:37,599 --> 01:30:43,730 ♪ My desire is always to be here ♪ 1405 01:30:43,814 --> 01:30:47,818 ♪ Oh, Mull of Kintyre ♪ 1406 01:30:52,156 --> 01:30:55,200 ♪ Mull of Kintyre ♪ 1407 01:30:55,284 --> 01:31:00,455 ♪ Oh, mist rolling in from the sea ♪ 1408 01:31:00,539 --> 01:31:06,795 ♪ My desire is always to be here ♪ 1409 01:31:06,879 --> 01:31:11,091 ♪ Oh, Mull of Kintyre ♪♪ 1410 01:31:11,175 --> 01:31:13,802 You know, that night, I said, "Oh, it could be a hit, this one. 1411 01:31:13,886 --> 01:31:16,680 Aye. No, it could be, uh, definitely." 1412 01:31:16,763 --> 01:31:19,683 "Mull of Kintyre" is already the biggest-selling single record 1413 01:31:19,766 --> 01:31:21,602 in this country of all time. 1414 01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:32,863 He takes that risk, doesn't he, musically, you know? 1415 01:31:32,946 --> 01:31:34,573 Always. 1416 01:31:34,656 --> 01:31:37,993 He'll buck against the trend and... and have a go. 1417 01:31:38,911 --> 01:31:41,663 And there it is, you know, "The Mull of Kintyre." 1418 01:31:42,789 --> 01:31:44,458 And we're hearing it. 1419 01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:50,047 What we're doing this year, though, 1420 01:31:50,130 --> 01:31:53,091 is we're kind of taking it a little bit easier. 1421 01:31:53,175 --> 01:31:55,802 'Cause we're pregnant. 1422 01:31:55,886 --> 01:31:58,639 I'm pregnant, too, you know, and I've got, I've got to take it easy. 1423 01:32:01,975 --> 01:32:05,938 And looking back on it, you tend to forget the bad moments. 1424 01:32:07,481 --> 01:32:10,234 Joe got very homesick. 1425 01:32:10,317 --> 01:32:13,946 He just kind of came one day, he said, "I really want to go back to America." 1426 01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:15,697 So what can you say? 1427 01:32:17,157 --> 01:32:19,826 Jimmy didn't last much longer himself. 1428 01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:23,914 He died soon after that. It was, uh, an overdose. 1429 01:32:23,997 --> 01:32:26,917 He was always a little dangerous, Jimmy, you know. 1430 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,836 And in the end, he was too dangerous for his own good. 1431 01:32:32,839 --> 01:32:35,801 I always felt it was probably the best lineup. 1432 01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:40,847 People may disagree, but I always felt comfortable with that band. 1433 01:32:46,395 --> 01:32:49,648 Wings from then on is just a version of. 1434 01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:51,775 It's not the real deal. 1435 01:32:51,858 --> 01:32:54,695 Same name, different vibe. 1436 01:32:54,778 --> 01:32:57,864 Just trying to get some words together. 1437 01:33:04,871 --> 01:33:07,416 You always made strenuous efforts to make it clear 1438 01:33:07,499 --> 01:33:09,626 that Wings wasn't just a backing group, didn't you? 1439 01:33:09,710 --> 01:33:12,587 That-that it was a complete band. 1440 01:33:12,671 --> 01:33:14,256 -Yeah. -Well, um, why? 1441 01:33:14,339 --> 01:33:15,632 I don't know. 1442 01:33:15,716 --> 01:33:19,970 I mean, I think I've been accused of treating people just like sidemen, 1443 01:33:20,053 --> 01:33:23,348 which I've never meant to do. 1444 01:33:38,989 --> 01:33:42,117 When Wings started, he felt the need for a band 1445 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,578 because he came out of a band and that was, you know, 1446 01:33:44,661 --> 01:33:46,330 in his comfort zone. 1447 01:33:47,164 --> 01:33:50,500 I couldn't help thinking, "He can play everything. 1448 01:33:50,584 --> 01:33:52,919 You know, I mean, he doesn't need anybody else." 1449 01:33:54,212 --> 01:33:56,048 When I was working on Back to the Egg, 1450 01:33:56,131 --> 01:34:00,260 I didn't feel as though I was even particularly producing it. 1451 01:34:00,344 --> 01:34:04,723 I didn't know how stuff worked with Wings before. 1452 01:34:04,806 --> 01:34:07,142 It seemed a square peg in a round hole. 1453 01:34:07,225 --> 01:34:09,227 ♪ Right on down at the bottom of the sea ♪ 1454 01:34:09,311 --> 01:34:11,396 ♪ Tell me, are you receiving me? ♪ 1455 01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:15,067 ♪ My name is Morse Moose, and I'm calling you ♪♪ 1456 01:34:18,779 --> 01:34:20,030 Yeah, yeah! 1457 01:34:20,113 --> 01:34:21,740 Or something like that. 1458 01:34:21,823 --> 01:34:25,118 Paul McCartney's last LP, Back to the Egg, flopped. 1459 01:34:25,202 --> 01:34:28,663 Three million sit in a warehouse with no buyers in sight. 1460 01:34:30,332 --> 01:34:34,795 When I left school, I didn't want to get a job, so I joined a group. 1461 01:34:34,878 --> 01:34:37,506 Now it's turned out to be quite a job. 1462 01:34:43,637 --> 01:34:46,765 Nothing goes on forever. 1463 01:34:46,848 --> 01:34:49,559 That's the nature of the beast. 1464 01:34:49,643 --> 01:34:54,773 'Cause being in a band is totally different than being in a family. 1465 01:34:56,775 --> 01:34:58,527 Paul's kind of a people person. 1466 01:34:58,610 --> 01:35:01,446 He's good around people, and he likes people. 1467 01:35:01,530 --> 01:35:04,241 He's been able to weather the storm pretty well. 1468 01:35:05,325 --> 01:35:09,121 Linda was... she didn't like being in the limelight. 1469 01:35:09,204 --> 01:35:11,748 Some of us are very uncomfortable with it. 1470 01:35:11,832 --> 01:35:13,750 ♪ Ooh, baby ♪ 1471 01:35:13,834 --> 01:35:18,422 ♪ you couldn't have done a worse thing to me ♪ 1472 01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:23,552 ♪ if you'd have taken an arrow and run it right through me, ooh... 1473 01:35:23,635 --> 01:35:26,555 I used to just take pictures and wander. 1474 01:35:26,638 --> 01:35:29,850 It's so complicated when you marry a Beatle. 1475 01:35:31,101 --> 01:35:33,019 She was getting tired. 1476 01:35:33,103 --> 01:35:37,107 You know, having four kids and the prospect of more touring, 1477 01:35:37,190 --> 01:35:39,693 I think, was, you know, wearing on her. 1478 01:35:40,902 --> 01:35:43,447 Now, we finish, uh, the week before Christmas 1479 01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:45,407 just in time to get a bit of shopping done. 1480 01:35:45,490 --> 01:35:48,910 Then we have one show on the 29th of December in London. 1481 01:35:49,744 --> 01:35:53,290 It's a charity show, a few days, a lot of different groups. 1482 01:35:54,374 --> 01:35:59,171 Okay, over here, there is a little creature has just appeared. 1483 01:35:59,254 --> 01:36:03,717 And this fella here is not John Lennon, as has been suggested. 1484 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,552 ♪ Ooh, baby ♪ 1485 01:36:05,635 --> 01:36:10,056 ♪ you wouldn't have found a more down hero... 1486 01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:14,644 That was the worst night of my playing life ever. 1487 01:36:15,437 --> 01:36:17,689 So there's no bottom coming off the bass. 1488 01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:20,108 The monitors were incredibly bad. 1489 01:36:20,192 --> 01:36:23,069 And I got breaking out in a sweat. 1490 01:36:23,153 --> 01:36:26,781 In no way I could control it. I just knew this was bad. 1491 01:36:26,865 --> 01:36:29,659 ♪ Come on, get up, get underway ♪ 1492 01:36:29,743 --> 01:36:34,039 ♪ and bring your love... 1493 01:36:34,915 --> 01:36:37,667 And we said, "Well, you know, what else should we do? 1494 01:36:37,751 --> 01:36:40,837 Go around the world ten more times?" 1495 01:36:40,921 --> 01:36:42,756 Maybe we had enough of all this touring. 1496 01:36:42,839 --> 01:36:46,468 Let's face it, you know, I'd been doing it since I was like about 18 or something. 1497 01:36:48,094 --> 01:36:50,972 The enthusiasm, I think, had peaked. 1498 01:36:51,056 --> 01:36:53,225 ♪ Whoa, whoa, oh, yeah ♪♪ 1499 01:36:56,686 --> 01:37:01,942 So the strangest thing was we arranged to go to Japan. 1500 01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:24,839 Two, three, four. 1501 01:37:30,053 --> 01:37:32,639 You're playing an A with a B on the bottom. 1502 01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:38,645 Another strange thing is we hadn't really rehearsed enough. 1503 01:37:38,728 --> 01:37:41,147 Now, all the other tours, we rehearsed a lot. 1504 01:37:41,231 --> 01:37:42,271 You're singing the same... 1505 01:37:42,315 --> 01:37:43,900 I can't harmonize like that... 1506 01:37:43,984 --> 01:37:46,570 So you remember, on the record it's... 1507 01:37:46,653 --> 01:37:50,156 ♪ With a little luck, with a little luck ♪ 1508 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:54,661 ♪ With a little luck, a little luck, a little luck ♪ 1509 01:37:54,744 --> 01:37:58,707 ♪ With a little luck, with a little luck ♪ 1510 01:37:58,790 --> 01:38:02,961 ♪ With a little luck, a little luck, a little luck ♪ 1511 01:38:03,044 --> 01:38:04,796 From the top. 1512 01:38:04,879 --> 01:38:07,132 And one, two, three, four. 1513 01:38:09,426 --> 01:38:14,723 I'd planned to sort of get there and then do some quick rehearsals and just hope. 1514 01:38:14,806 --> 01:38:16,641 But it was a, it was a bit of a nightmare. 1515 01:38:21,187 --> 01:38:25,191 I was sort of having dreams, thinking, "Where am I? 1516 01:38:25,275 --> 01:38:27,027 What song is it we're doing? 1517 01:38:27,110 --> 01:38:28,528 We don't know it." 1518 01:38:28,612 --> 01:38:31,197 I didn't know you're directing, love. 1519 01:38:31,281 --> 01:38:35,994 You know, I'm like thinking, "Oh, my God, what have I got myself into?" 1520 01:38:39,456 --> 01:38:42,250 When I was a kid, I sometimes would go on a train, 1521 01:38:42,334 --> 01:38:44,294 and I'd have a second-class ticket. 1522 01:38:44,377 --> 01:38:48,089 And if the train was empty, I'd sit in a first-class compartment. 1523 01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:49,442 And I always used to get caught. 1524 01:38:49,466 --> 01:38:51,051 Well, morning. 1525 01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:54,346 It was almost as if I wanted to get busted. 1526 01:38:56,556 --> 01:38:58,600 So, anyway, everyone said, 1527 01:38:58,683 --> 01:39:02,812 "Whatever you do, don't take any pot into Japan. 1528 01:39:02,896 --> 01:39:06,232 Seven years hard labor penalty." 1529 01:39:06,316 --> 01:39:10,445 But we were in New York, and, um... 1530 01:39:10,528 --> 01:39:12,530 we had this pot. 1531 01:39:27,879 --> 01:39:30,965 Wings have been scheduled to give 11 concerts. 1532 01:39:31,049 --> 01:39:34,761 Over 100,000 tickets have been sold. 1533 01:39:34,844 --> 01:39:36,846 I remember going through the airport, 1534 01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:38,515 and they were taking lots of pictures. 1535 01:39:38,598 --> 01:39:40,433 There were a lot of press around. 1536 01:39:40,517 --> 01:39:42,519 We were going through customs, 1537 01:39:42,602 --> 01:39:46,398 and they brought a case up, and they unzipped the case. 1538 01:39:55,281 --> 01:39:57,200 This was the last suitcase, 1539 01:39:57,283 --> 01:40:01,246 and the customs guy got this kind of quizzical expression. 1540 01:40:07,794 --> 01:40:10,547 Oh, this might be a problem. 1541 01:40:14,426 --> 01:40:16,720 I remember them looking at each other, going, 1542 01:40:16,803 --> 01:40:19,597 "Which one of us is gonna do this?" 1543 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,853 "'Cause one of us needs to stay with the kids." 1544 01:40:26,771 --> 01:40:27,856 Oops. 1545 01:40:27,939 --> 01:40:29,566 Yeah. 1546 01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:43,329 I hadn't been in the room more than about 30 seconds 1547 01:40:43,413 --> 01:40:45,707 and the phone rang up, and it was Denny. 1548 01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:48,001 And he said, "Switch on your television." 1549 01:40:48,084 --> 01:40:50,795 I said, "Which channel?" He said, "It doesn't matter." 1550 01:40:50,879 --> 01:40:52,922 This afternoon, the Prosecutor's office 1551 01:40:53,006 --> 01:40:55,884 and Tokyo district court approved his detention. 1552 01:40:55,967 --> 01:40:58,261 Japan is particularly strict on drug taking, 1553 01:40:58,344 --> 01:41:00,638 coming down hard on Japanese caught with pot... 1554 01:41:02,098 --> 01:41:06,269 ♪ Simply having a wonderful Christmastime ♪♪ 1555 01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,231 Everywhere you looked, there were posters for the tour. 1556 01:41:10,315 --> 01:41:12,776 And the next morning, all the posters had gone. 1557 01:41:14,110 --> 01:41:18,239 In the morning, well-rested, he said, but worried about the children, 1558 01:41:18,323 --> 01:41:21,367 McCartney went off for another session with the drug investigators. 1559 01:41:21,451 --> 01:41:24,037 I still don't know what's happening or when he's getting out. 1560 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,830 Everybody's heard but me. 1561 01:41:25,914 --> 01:41:28,249 Four nights in a Tokyo jail. 1562 01:41:28,333 --> 01:41:30,502 Still in a Tokyo jail, his sixth day. 1563 01:41:30,585 --> 01:41:32,420 This is his seventh night behind bars. 1564 01:41:32,504 --> 01:41:34,714 And for the singer and his wife, 1565 01:41:34,798 --> 01:41:38,468 Japanese justice seems to be working very, very slowly. 1566 01:42:11,918 --> 01:42:15,964 There are times in your life you just think, "Okay, you're an idiot." 1567 01:42:16,047 --> 01:42:18,258 And that's one of them. I was an idiot. 1568 01:42:20,051 --> 01:42:22,554 I was in a little cell on my own. 1569 01:42:22,637 --> 01:42:25,265 You know, I was Steve McQueen in The Great Escape. 1570 01:42:30,854 --> 01:42:32,564 First night, I didn't sleep. 1571 01:42:32,647 --> 01:42:35,441 Third night, I had a blinding headache all night. 1572 01:42:35,525 --> 01:42:37,485 Just not wanting to be in there. 1573 01:42:41,197 --> 01:42:43,825 I was being told I might be in there seven years. 1574 01:42:47,829 --> 01:42:51,541 We hadn't been separated at all since we'd been married. 1575 01:42:52,876 --> 01:42:57,630 I had visions of her and the kids just growing up outside Tokyo. 1576 01:43:09,976 --> 01:43:13,479 I used to really imagine the best possible thing I could imagine 1577 01:43:13,563 --> 01:43:15,815 would be sitting under my oak tree in my garden. 1578 01:43:19,736 --> 01:43:22,864 That was absolutely the height of bliss. 1579 01:43:26,910 --> 01:43:30,788 You don't cherish all of those moments unless they're taken away from you. 1580 01:43:39,797 --> 01:43:42,842 It was one of the points where I thought, "Wait a minute. 1581 01:43:42,926 --> 01:43:48,222 If I ever get out of here, do I really want to be doing what I'm doing?" 1582 01:44:01,277 --> 01:44:04,072 Paul McCartney, the former Beatle, was mobbed by fans 1583 01:44:04,155 --> 01:44:06,866 when he got out of jail in Tokyo today. 1584 01:44:06,950 --> 01:44:09,911 The Japanese prosecutor's office said he had suffered enough, 1585 01:44:09,994 --> 01:44:13,456 and instead of holding him for trial, they kicked him out of the country. 1586 01:44:17,877 --> 01:44:21,172 ♪ You want a love to last forever ♪ 1587 01:44:21,255 --> 01:44:24,968 ♪ one that will never fade away ♪ 1588 01:44:25,051 --> 01:44:28,805 ♪ I wanna help you with your problem ♪ 1589 01:44:28,888 --> 01:44:32,016 ♪ Stick around, I say ♪ 1590 01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:33,810 ♪ Coming up ♪ 1591 01:44:33,893 --> 01:44:35,645 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 1592 01:44:35,728 --> 01:44:37,105 ♪ Coming up... 1593 01:44:37,188 --> 01:44:40,441 Day 122. Paul McCartney without marijuana. 1594 01:44:41,651 --> 01:44:44,904 Hey, I bet it is... it's real hard to dance when you're not stoned. 1595 01:44:44,988 --> 01:44:46,656 Am I right? 1596 01:44:46,739 --> 01:44:47,740 ♪ Ooh ♪ 1597 01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:51,995 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1598 01:44:52,078 --> 01:44:54,497 You just put out a new album. It's a solo album. 1599 01:44:54,580 --> 01:44:56,416 ♪ Coming up ♪ 1600 01:44:56,499 --> 01:44:58,167 ♪ I say ♪ 1601 01:44:58,251 --> 01:44:59,252 ♪ Coming up... 1602 01:44:59,335 --> 01:45:00,712 What's happened to Wings? 1603 01:45:00,795 --> 01:45:03,006 Will you be getting back together with them? 1604 01:45:03,089 --> 01:45:04,173 I should think so, yeah. 1605 01:45:04,257 --> 01:45:06,110 We're kind of talking about it and thinking about it. 1606 01:45:06,134 --> 01:45:07,802 ♪ You want a better kind of future ♪ 1607 01:45:09,137 --> 01:45:11,723 ♪ one that everyone can share ♪ 1608 01:45:11,806 --> 01:45:14,559 ♪ You're not alone, we all could use it ♪ 1609 01:45:14,642 --> 01:45:17,603 ♪ Stick around, we're nearly there ♪ 1610 01:45:18,855 --> 01:45:19,939 ♪ Coming up ♪ 1611 01:45:20,606 --> 01:45:22,275 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 1612 01:45:22,358 --> 01:45:23,526 ♪ Coming up... 1613 01:45:23,609 --> 01:45:27,280 It's hard to tell exactly what his state of mind was at the time, 1614 01:45:27,363 --> 01:45:31,492 but Paul was in the studio mixing that stuff 1615 01:45:31,576 --> 01:45:33,953 within a week of getting back from Japan. 1616 01:45:34,037 --> 01:45:35,788 ♪ Coming up, yeah... 1617 01:45:35,872 --> 01:45:39,333 Part of McCartney II was history repeating itself. 1618 01:45:39,417 --> 01:45:41,544 McCartney I came about pretty rapidly 1619 01:45:41,627 --> 01:45:45,506 after his decision to finish with the Beatles. 1620 01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:48,134 ♪ Coming up ♪♪ 1621 01:45:48,217 --> 01:45:51,971 I would imagine he was questioning the whole situation at that point. 1622 01:45:58,686 --> 01:46:00,688 It was a liberation for me. 1623 01:46:02,148 --> 01:46:06,402 You don't have to be that Paul McCartney fellow that we expect all the time. 1624 01:46:08,529 --> 01:46:10,156 Is it true to say that-that 1625 01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:12,825 you don't really have any concrete ambitions now? 1626 01:46:12,909 --> 01:46:14,470 You don't think, "Well, I'd like to get into 1627 01:46:14,494 --> 01:46:16,496 a totally different field of writing." 1628 01:46:16,579 --> 01:46:17,848 -Maybe you'd like to write... -Yeah, I do. 1629 01:46:17,872 --> 01:46:20,374 I do. You know, I have a lot of ambitions. 1630 01:46:20,458 --> 01:46:23,336 Awkward thing is, whenever I do interviews, someone says that, you know, 1631 01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:25,272 -"What's left, Paul?" -Yeah, "What's next?" Yeah. 1632 01:46:25,296 --> 01:46:27,840 You know, "What's left?" 1633 01:46:27,924 --> 01:46:29,008 Well, I think... 1634 01:46:29,092 --> 01:46:32,970 Or the other one is, "Paul, if, just if..." 1635 01:46:33,054 --> 01:46:34,430 That's the other question. 1636 01:46:34,514 --> 01:46:37,141 Um, it's a little bit of an in-joke, that one. 1637 01:46:43,064 --> 01:46:46,192 I have this memory in New York, like, being a young kid 1638 01:46:46,275 --> 01:46:51,489 and us all going around to visit John and Yoko at the Dakota. 1639 01:46:53,366 --> 01:46:54,867 It was a good feeling. 1640 01:46:54,951 --> 01:46:57,453 It was like a family reunion. 1641 01:47:04,752 --> 01:47:08,339 He heard "Coming Up" on the radio, and he thought, 1642 01:47:08,422 --> 01:47:12,969 "Now I've got to come up with something," you know. 1643 01:47:13,052 --> 01:47:16,430 If you look through my dad's LP collection, 1644 01:47:16,514 --> 01:47:21,853 our copy of McCartney was played and quite worn, actually. 1645 01:47:21,936 --> 01:47:25,398 You can tell that they were listened to, as a fan. 1646 01:47:26,649 --> 01:47:28,860 It never surprised me because it was like, 1647 01:47:28,943 --> 01:47:34,282 can you be surprised by your brother, from age 15 on? 1648 01:47:38,035 --> 01:47:45,001 One of the great blessings in my life is that we made up. 1649 01:47:46,085 --> 01:47:52,175 It's-it's beautiful and it's sad at the same time. 1650 01:47:53,509 --> 01:47:59,056 You know, we'd loved each other all our lives. 1651 01:48:00,558 --> 01:48:01,809 Um... 1652 01:48:02,894 --> 01:48:07,023 We interrupt this program to bring you a News 4 special report. 1653 01:48:07,106 --> 01:48:09,317 Well, you heard the sad news a few moments ago 1654 01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,111 that former Beatle John Lennon has been murdered here in New York. 1655 01:48:12,195 --> 01:48:13,905 We have more details now for you. 1656 01:48:13,988 --> 01:48:15,865 He was shot and killed in front of his home 1657 01:48:15,948 --> 01:48:17,092 in Manhattan's Upper West Side. 1658 01:48:17,116 --> 01:48:19,118 Police say... 1659 01:48:32,506 --> 01:48:34,258 I remember that moment. 1660 01:48:36,510 --> 01:48:38,346 I remember the phone ringing. 1661 01:48:39,847 --> 01:48:43,309 I remember some... the biggest reaction I'd ever seen... 1662 01:48:45,436 --> 01:48:48,648 and him leaving the kitchen and going outside. 1663 01:48:50,524 --> 01:48:54,862 That was, um, heartbreaking, like, truly heartbreaking. 1664 01:48:58,699 --> 01:49:01,160 What was your reaction to the death of, uh, John Lennon? 1665 01:49:01,244 --> 01:49:02,286 Or John Lennon's... 1666 01:49:02,370 --> 01:49:04,997 Uh, I was very shocked, you know. It's terrible news. 1667 01:49:05,081 --> 01:49:07,500 When did you... How did you find out about it? 1668 01:49:07,583 --> 01:49:09,043 I got a phone call this morning. 1669 01:49:09,126 --> 01:49:13,256 I always noticed the look in his eyes 1670 01:49:13,339 --> 01:49:16,133 and-and the tone of his voice 1671 01:49:16,217 --> 01:49:22,974 really felt like someone who was unable to process what was going on. 1672 01:49:23,057 --> 01:49:25,893 He just seemed almost, uh... 1673 01:49:25,977 --> 01:49:27,687 robotic. 1674 01:49:27,770 --> 01:49:33,526 Which I think some people took possibly as coldness, but I never took it as that. 1675 01:49:33,609 --> 01:49:36,320 'Cause I understood even then what it was like 1676 01:49:36,404 --> 01:49:39,615 when something that terrible happens. 1677 01:49:39,699 --> 01:49:41,075 Go on now, yeah. 1678 01:49:41,158 --> 01:49:42,618 Drag, isn't it? 1679 01:49:42,702 --> 01:49:45,121 -Okay, cheers. All right. Let's go. -Paul. Paul, a question. 1680 01:49:45,204 --> 01:49:47,665 -Thank you. Goodbye. -Go. 1681 01:49:50,376 --> 01:49:54,088 When the Beatles broke up, he had to grow up. 1682 01:49:54,171 --> 01:49:59,260 But in a way, I feel like my dad passing was probably the real growing up moment. 1683 01:50:00,469 --> 01:50:05,558 They had a once-in-a-millennium chemistry 1684 01:50:05,641 --> 01:50:09,687 that I don't think we're likely to see again. 1685 01:50:16,861 --> 01:50:19,030 I know. 1686 01:50:19,113 --> 01:50:24,577 But, um, time can take the edge off. 1687 01:50:25,870 --> 01:50:29,165 Paul McCartney is stepping up his own security. 1688 01:50:29,248 --> 01:50:32,043 This means his band Wings won't be touring. 1689 01:50:32,126 --> 01:50:33,627 It's led to one of its members, 1690 01:50:33,711 --> 01:50:35,713 Midland-born Denny Laine, to quit. 1691 01:50:40,259 --> 01:50:42,553 Come on, Charlie, let's take it to 'em. 1692 01:50:42,636 --> 01:50:43,763 How we doing... 1693 01:50:43,846 --> 01:50:45,264 There is no end. 1694 01:50:45,348 --> 01:50:49,643 It's just that we didn't go out on the road again or make another album. 1695 01:50:49,727 --> 01:50:53,022 But me, Paul and Linda were still intact. 1696 01:50:53,105 --> 01:50:55,691 ♪ You are my sunshine ♪ 1697 01:50:55,775 --> 01:50:58,486 ♪ my only sunshine ♪ 1698 01:50:58,569 --> 01:51:01,238 ♪ You make me happy ♪ 1699 01:51:01,322 --> 01:51:04,033 ♪ when skies are gray ♪ 1700 01:51:04,116 --> 01:51:07,036 ♪ You'll never know, dear ♪ 1701 01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:09,747 ♪ how much I love you ♪ 1702 01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:15,920 ♪ So please don't take my sunshine away... 1703 01:51:16,003 --> 01:51:18,422 In Wings, we always thought we were failing 1704 01:51:18,506 --> 01:51:21,175 because we always matched everything to the Beatles. 1705 01:51:21,842 --> 01:51:27,181 The first person to rediscover it for me was my nephew. 1706 01:51:27,264 --> 01:51:30,601 He said, "Oh, you know the album I love?" 1707 01:51:30,684 --> 01:51:34,522 Thinking it might be Sgt. Pepper or something, he said, "Ram." 1708 01:51:34,605 --> 01:51:35,898 "You do?" 1709 01:51:38,651 --> 01:51:41,487 It was all just so pure and real. 1710 01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:45,491 Must have taken such strength to have chosen that way. 1711 01:51:46,867 --> 01:51:49,745 And I think you hear it in the music. 1712 01:51:49,829 --> 01:51:55,042 You know, those, I believe, for all of us, were probably the best years of our lives. 1713 01:51:55,126 --> 01:52:01,882 ♪ So please don't take my sunshine ♪ 1714 01:52:01,966 --> 01:52:08,931 ♪ away ♪♪ 1715 01:52:17,231 --> 01:52:20,401 As you get older, your ego gets more satisfied 1716 01:52:20,484 --> 01:52:25,072 and you realize you don't have to rely on people's praise all the time. 1717 01:52:25,156 --> 01:52:27,450 You start relying on, "Well, I'm not that bad. 1718 01:52:28,868 --> 01:52:30,703 Well, I'm not a mean person." 1719 01:52:32,997 --> 01:52:38,419 So you just start developing, I think, outward, then inward. 1720 01:52:41,547 --> 01:52:45,843 When we were up in Scotland, putting together this new life... 1721 01:52:47,636 --> 01:52:50,097 it was a question of having to grow up. 1722 01:52:51,891 --> 01:52:55,227 And what a good aim, to grow up. 1723 01:53:07,198 --> 01:53:11,869 I doubted whether it was possible to follow the Beatles. 1724 01:53:11,952 --> 01:53:13,287 But looking back on it now, 1725 01:53:13,370 --> 01:53:19,126 I think we made what seemed like an impossible dream come true. 1726 01:53:20,252 --> 01:53:22,171 That was the magic of it. 1727 01:53:37,978 --> 01:53:42,107 ♪ You gave me something ♪ 1728 01:53:42,191 --> 01:53:46,278 ♪ I understand ♪ 1729 01:53:46,362 --> 01:53:48,697 ♪ You gave me loving ♪ 1730 01:53:48,781 --> 01:53:53,994 ♪ in the palm of my hand ♪ 1731 01:53:54,078 --> 01:53:59,833 ♪ I can't tell you how I feel ♪ 1732 01:53:59,917 --> 01:54:03,295 ♪ My heart is like a wheel ♪ 1733 01:54:03,379 --> 01:54:07,341 ♪ Let me roll it ♪ 1734 01:54:07,424 --> 01:54:11,512 ♪ Let me roll it to you ♪ 1735 01:54:11,595 --> 01:54:15,558 ♪ Let me roll it ♪ 1736 01:54:15,641 --> 01:54:21,230 ♪ Let me roll it to you ♪ 1737 01:54:35,953 --> 01:54:41,417 ♪ I can't tell you how I feel ♪ 1738 01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:44,878 ♪ My heart is like a wheel ♪ 1739 01:54:44,962 --> 01:54:48,924 ♪ Let me roll it ♪ 1740 01:54:49,008 --> 01:54:53,095 ♪ Let me roll it to you ♪ 1741 01:54:53,178 --> 01:54:57,141 ♪ Let me roll it ♪ 1742 01:54:57,224 --> 01:55:02,688 ♪ Let me roll it to you ♪♪139774

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