All language subtitles for Snowden.2016.720p.WEBRip.x264.AAC-ETRG

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic Download
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali Download
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional) Download
co Corsican
hr Croatian Download
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch Download
en English Download
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French Download
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian Download
de German Download
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew Download
hi Hindi Download
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian Download
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian Download
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese Download
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji) Download
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay Download
ml Malayalam Download
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese) Download
ne Nepali Download
no Norwegian Download
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish Download
pt Portuguese Download
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian Download
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian Download
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish Download
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish Download
tg Tajik
ta Tamil Download
te Telugu Download
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu Download
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,598 --> 00:00:12,498 SUB CORRECTION BY Draxer Dz 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 3 00:00:30,599 --> 00:00:32,807 The following is a dramatization of actual events 4 00:00:32,974 --> 00:00:34,722 That occurred between 2004 and 2013. 5 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:04,384 So? -It's the only alligator. 6 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:11,630 Four minutes past, we walk in one minute. He was clear on that. 7 00:01:11,798 --> 00:01:14,798 He's coming. 8 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:24,712 You know? He's too young to have that kind of access. 9 00:01:39,416 --> 00:01:42,752 Ah... what time does the restaurant open. -Noon. 10 00:01:42,916 --> 00:01:47,623 But the food's a little too spicy. This way. 11 00:01:54,957 --> 00:02:00,664 HONG KONG MONDAY JUNE 3, 2013 12 00:02:07,494 --> 00:02:09,702 Excuse me. 13 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:26,242 Right here. 14 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,112 PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB 15 00:02:44,111 --> 00:02:47,694 It's uh really great to finally meet you guys. 16 00:02:47,862 --> 00:02:52,193 So first thing, can I get your cellphones please? 17 00:02:53,445 --> 00:02:57,484 Thank you. We want Laura to be the only one recording. 18 00:02:57,652 --> 00:03:00,567 Right, as discussed. Thank you. 19 00:03:00,735 --> 00:03:04,774 I actually bought this. It blocks UHF frequencies. 20 00:03:10,605 --> 00:03:12,981 You have been photographed before, right? 21 00:03:13,148 --> 00:03:16,856 Yeah, it's been a while since anybody took a photo of me. 22 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:20,063 Try thinking of this as your friend. 23 00:03:20,231 --> 00:03:23,102 Take your time. 24 00:03:26,518 --> 00:03:30,017 Um, can you start by telling us why you did what you did? 25 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:35,144 and uh, how you gained access to such a vast amount of information. All of which I read on the plane, um, and... 26 00:03:35,308 --> 00:03:40,435 Glenn. How about we just start with your name? 27 00:03:45,226 --> 00:03:49,181 My name is Edward Joseph Snowden. 28 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:56,303 I'm 29 years old. I work as a private contractor for the NSA. 29 00:03:56,471 --> 00:04:02,010 I've also worked as a private contractor for the CIA and directly for the agency. 30 00:04:03,722 --> 00:04:07,801 I've worked in various jobs in the intelligence industry for the last nine years. 31 00:04:07,969 --> 00:04:11,008 I've been a systems engineer. 32 00:04:11,176 --> 00:04:14,843 Uh, been a solutions consultant 33 00:04:15,007 --> 00:04:19,218 and senior adviser for the Central Inteligence Agency. 34 00:04:22,966 --> 00:04:25,797 So you wanna be Special Forces? -Sir, yes sir! 35 00:04:25,965 --> 00:04:29,924 I think Special Forces would be ashamed to call you soldiers! 36 00:04:30,088 --> 00:04:33,215 Am I right? Sir, no, sir. 37 00:04:33,379 --> 00:04:37,131 Your left. Your left right. Your left. 38 00:04:37,295 --> 00:04:44,129 Went from driving Cadillacs. Went from driving Cadillacs. 39 00:04:44,293 --> 00:04:50,960 To drivin' convoys in Iraq. To drivin' convoys in Iraq. 40 00:04:51,128 --> 00:04:53,419 Come on, soldier! 41 00:04:56,127 --> 00:04:59,166 Move! Move! 42 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:04,789 Pick it up, you waste of space! Move! 43 00:05:07,248 --> 00:05:09,996 Come on, soldier! 44 00:05:10,164 --> 00:05:12,039 Come on, goggles! 45 00:05:12,207 --> 00:05:17,078 Snowden, what the hell are you doing? -Nothing, sir. Where's your fuckin' heart? - Right here, sir. 46 00:05:17,246 --> 00:05:21,161 Now I want you reach way down in that pathetic excuse of a chest and you rip it out. 47 00:05:21,329 --> 00:05:24,992 You find your heart, and then you get your broke ass on my tower! You got that? 48 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,036 Sir, yes, sir! -Now get the fuck outta my face! 49 00:05:28,992 --> 00:05:32,035 I need you off my tower, gentlemen! Let's move! 50 00:05:35,282 --> 00:05:37,282 Move! Come on! 51 00:05:38,534 --> 00:05:43,780 Rise and shine maggots! Get your hands off your dicks and get the fuck out of my barracks! 52 00:05:43,948 --> 00:05:48,240 You guys got one minute! Fall out! Move, move, move! 53 00:06:00,237 --> 00:06:02,405 Fuck! 54 00:06:03,612 --> 00:06:06,236 Help! 55 00:06:06,404 --> 00:06:10,651 Snowden? Where the fuck is Snowden? -Help! 56 00:06:12,194 --> 00:06:17,233 You know, you've been walkin' around on two broken legs, best I can tell, for weeks. 57 00:06:18,981 --> 00:06:24,316 Now, this is what happens when you put a 80 pound rucksack on a 150 pound body. 58 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,063 You get these little stress fractures. -Easy. -Sorry. 59 00:06:28,231 --> 00:06:32,606 They build up in your tibias. You don't get off of them and eventually they just bust. 60 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:39,397 Now you gonna be here for a few weeks, and then, I'd count on another eight weeks or so on crutches. 61 00:06:39,561 --> 00:06:41,768 Okay, then when do I go back? 62 00:06:41,936 --> 00:06:47,311 Son, you ever again land on those legs of yours, airborne or not, those bones turn to powder. 63 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:52,310 I'm gonna authorize an administrative discharge. 64 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:55,473 Plenty of other ways to serve your country. 65 00:07:04,015 --> 00:07:05,391 GEEK-MATE.COM NEW MESSAGE 66 00:07:09,806 --> 00:07:12,598 "Ghost in the Shell" is also one of my favorites. 67 00:07:12,762 --> 00:07:15,637 Are you this pale in real life? 68 00:07:17,721 --> 00:07:21,928 Have you committed a crime for which you weren't caught? 69 00:07:22,096 --> 00:07:23,927 No. 70 00:07:26,179 --> 00:07:29,258 Have you cheated on an exam? 71 00:07:29,426 --> 00:07:31,258 No. 72 00:07:32,841 --> 00:07:36,756 Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world? -Yes. 73 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:40,424 Why do you want to join the CIA? 74 00:07:40,592 --> 00:07:44,215 How would you explain the Internet to a child? 75 00:07:44,383 --> 00:07:48,506 Your grandad retired as an admiral and joined the FBI. 76 00:07:48,674 --> 00:07:51,129 Dad's in the Coast Guard. 30-year man. 77 00:07:51,297 --> 00:07:54,213 What has been the most important day in your life? 78 00:07:54,381 --> 00:07:58,420 9/11. We thought my grandfather was inside the Pentagon. 79 00:07:58,588 --> 00:08:01,419 It turned out he was offsite that day. 80 00:08:01,587 --> 00:08:07,042 You wanted to be Special Forces? -Yes, sir. I love their motto. 81 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:10,833 De oppresso liber. -Is that what you hope to do with us? 82 00:08:11,001 --> 00:08:13,293 Free people from oppression? 83 00:08:13,457 --> 00:08:16,748 I'd like to help my country make a difference in the world. 84 00:08:16,916 --> 00:08:20,499 The Internet is a technology 85 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:25,330 that has the power to let everyone in the world understand each other. 86 00:08:25,498 --> 00:08:30,581 Missed a perfect score on the ASVAB test by a single question. 87 00:08:30,745 --> 00:08:33,996 Crushed the language learning test. 88 00:08:34,164 --> 00:08:37,536 Some Mandarin, some Japanese. 89 00:08:39,411 --> 00:08:43,410 And no high school diploma? So why did you stop attending high school? 90 00:08:43,578 --> 00:08:48,701 I had to make money. My parents were divorcing at the time. 91 00:08:48,869 --> 00:08:52,700 Any other influences? I'd say Joseph Campbell. 92 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,031 Star Wars. Thoreau. 93 00:08:58,199 --> 00:09:03,074 Ayn Rand. -"One man can stop the motor of the world." 94 00:09:03,238 --> 00:09:06,445 Atlas Shrugged? Yes, sir. I believe that. 95 00:09:06,613 --> 00:09:11,572 Let's try again. Why do you want to join the CIA? 96 00:09:15,236 --> 00:09:17,819 Uh, well frankly, sir... 97 00:09:19,819 --> 00:09:24,526 sounds really cool to have top security clearance. 98 00:09:32,276 --> 00:09:33,860 It's not enough. 99 00:09:40,858 --> 00:09:45,149 Ordinarily. But these are not ordinary times. 100 00:09:46,857 --> 00:09:52,148 Bombs won't stop terrorism, brains will, though we don't have nearly enough of those. 101 00:09:52,312 --> 00:09:57,978 I'm gonna give you a shot, Snowden. Thank your, sir. Thank you very much. You won't regret this. 102 00:09:58,146 --> 00:10:03,353 My name is Corbin O'Brien. I have many titles, among them senior instructor. 103 00:10:03,517 --> 00:10:06,769 You'll be joining my class at The Hill. 104 00:10:06,933 --> 00:10:10,352 Stop the vehicle. Turn off the engine. 105 00:10:12,183 --> 00:10:14,143 I need to see your ID. 106 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:20,390 Alright. Using your left hand only, pop the trunk. 107 00:10:23,057 --> 00:10:27,848 Now place your hands through the steering wheel on the dashboard. 108 00:10:28,012 --> 00:10:31,927 Through the steering wheel on the dashboard. Do not exit the vehicle. 109 00:10:42,469 --> 00:10:46,300 CIA TRAINING CENTER, VIRGINIA "THE HILL" - 2006 110 00:10:48,716 --> 00:10:54,590 Excuse me. You'll be looking for Corbin's class; end of the hall, keep going thruogh the second set of doors. 111 00:10:54,758 --> 00:11:01,049 Thank you. Is that, uh, ENIGMA? No. ENIGMA was broken. 112 00:11:01,213 --> 00:11:04,840 This is the follow-up, SIGABA; never broken. 113 00:11:05,004 --> 00:11:07,504 Cold War's greatest encryption machine. 114 00:11:07,672 --> 00:11:11,711 Tides of history tick with this motor and these rotors. 115 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:15,002 One day everyone's gonna want a machine like this. 116 00:11:15,170 --> 00:11:18,585 Wow, I've always wanted to learn cryptography. What's this one? 117 00:11:18,753 --> 00:11:23,876 Hot line. First line between Washington and Moscow. 118 00:11:24,044 --> 00:11:27,707 Probably prevented World War III. 119 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:31,207 You gotta name? How do I know you're not the enemy? 120 00:11:31,375 --> 00:11:34,626 Oh sorry, uh Snowden. Ed Snowden. -Hank Forrester. 121 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:37,997 Where'd you study, Snowden? Mostly I'm self-taught. 122 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:42,080 You can tell me if you're busy, but is that a Cray-1? 123 00:11:42,248 --> 00:11:48,995 Why yes. Yes, it is. The first supercomputer. 124 00:11:49,163 --> 00:11:53,162 We get all of this on a cell phone now. -Yes. So you're an engineer? 125 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:57,037 Am I an engineer? Instructor and counselor, too. 126 00:11:57,201 --> 00:11:59,329 I'm supposed to keep an eye on you CTs. 127 00:11:59,493 --> 00:12:03,408 Make sure you don't buckle under the pressure. Turn to drugs and booze. 128 00:12:03,576 --> 00:12:06,907 Well, you won't have that problem with me. I don't drink or do drugs. 129 00:12:07,075 --> 00:12:11,906 What is your sin of choice? -Computers. 130 00:12:12,074 --> 00:12:16,905 Well then, Snowden. You've some to the whorehouse. 131 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:24,863 The frontlines in the global war on terror are not Iraq or Afghanistan. 132 00:12:25,031 --> 00:12:27,195 They're here. 133 00:12:27,363 --> 00:12:30,614 In London. Berlin. 134 00:12:32,114 --> 00:12:34,029 Istanbul. 135 00:12:34,193 --> 00:12:37,069 Any server. Any connection. 136 00:12:37,237 --> 00:12:41,320 The modern battlefield is everywhere. 137 00:12:43,775 --> 00:12:49,858 Which means you don't have to sit in a ditch eating MREs or dodging mortar fire. 138 00:12:50,026 --> 00:12:53,897 It means that if there is a another 9/11 139 00:12:54,065 --> 00:12:57,856 it'll be your fault. 140 00:12:58,024 --> 00:13:02,439 Just as the last one was my generation's. 141 00:13:02,607 --> 00:13:06,394 Believe me, you do not want to live with that burden. 142 00:13:10,937 --> 00:13:14,893 We're gonna start with an aptitude test. 143 00:13:15,061 --> 00:13:18,976 Each of you is gonna build a covert communications network in your home city. 144 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:27,682 You're gonna deploy it, back up your site, destroy it and restore it again. 145 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:32,601 Point of this exercise is to keep your infrastructure up and running securely. 146 00:13:32,765 --> 00:13:39,555 The average test time is five hours. If you take more than eight, you will fail. 147 00:14:04,802 --> 00:14:07,050 Mr. O'Brien? 148 00:14:07,218 --> 00:14:09,049 I'm done, sir. 149 00:14:09,217 --> 00:14:11,841 You don't have to tell me when you've completed a stage. 150 00:14:12,008 --> 00:14:16,216 No, I finished the whole thing. -It's been 40 minutes. 151 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:19,131 38. -What? 152 00:14:19,299 --> 00:14:22,006 38 minutes. 153 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:26,797 Okay. Let's see where you screwed up. 154 00:14:46,709 --> 00:14:50,708 You didn't say we had to do it in order, so I ... 155 00:14:50,872 --> 00:14:57,163 I broke the sequence to save time, and I made the backup process to run as I built the site. 156 00:14:58,583 --> 00:15:01,246 Eyes on screens. 157 00:15:06,829 --> 00:15:09,704 Mr. O'Brien? 158 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:14,827 So, what should I do now? -Whatever you want. 159 00:15:28,234 --> 00:15:30,150 Are you this pale in real life? 160 00:15:51,526 --> 00:15:53,774 Hey. -Hi. 161 00:15:55,274 --> 00:15:58,026 Finally. -Yeah. 162 00:16:01,526 --> 00:16:03,858 Sorry. 163 00:16:07,194 --> 00:16:12,150 Do you want ... sanything? -No. Let's go for a walk. 164 00:16:13,402 --> 00:16:18,858 You could use some sun. -Yeah. You mentioned that earlier. 165 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:25,066 Sorry it took me this long. You didn't want to see me on crutches. 166 00:16:25,234 --> 00:16:28,818 I was not so agile. And then this new job hit. 167 00:16:28,982 --> 00:16:33,442 What was it you're doing again? -I'm doing analysis for the State Department. 168 00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:36,274 Congratulations. -Thanks. 169 00:16:36,442 --> 00:16:41,610 Could you do me a favor and point in the direction of the State Department? 170 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:50,818 Yeah, it's that way. -Where? Are you sure? 171 00:16:50,982 --> 00:16:56,526 I mean, I'm not that great at orienting myself. -Not that great at lying either. 172 00:16:56,694 --> 00:17:00,858 You're going to have to work on both if you wanna be a spy. 173 00:17:01,026 --> 00:17:04,442 Where I came from everyone's parent worked for the State Department. 174 00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:08,066 Plus, every time you visited my website this week, 175 00:17:08,234 --> 00:17:11,650 which was quite often, it was from an IP in Virginia. 176 00:17:11,818 --> 00:17:14,402 You know how to run an IP trace? -Yeah. 177 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:18,982 I'm pretty sure that the State Department has no offices in Virginia. 178 00:17:27,566 --> 00:17:30,234 Alright, let's see you strut it. -Let's see what? 179 00:17:30,402 --> 00:17:33,442 Let's see you strut it. Show what you got, you know, your best catwalk. 180 00:17:35,026 --> 00:17:38,694 Don't be shy. Come on, you got this. 181 00:17:43,358 --> 00:17:45,526 I don't know ... 182 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:55,942 No to Bush, no to bombs. No to Bush, no to bombs. 183 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:59,694 Would you mind signing our petition, please? -Yes, absolutely. 184 00:18:01,858 --> 00:18:04,110 Thank you -Thank you so much. 185 00:18:04,274 --> 00:18:06,194 Sir? -No thank you. 186 00:18:07,858 --> 00:18:11,694 Excuse me ma'am, you you like to sign? -I actually just signed. -Okay, thank you very much. 187 00:18:13,358 --> 00:18:15,982 Too much independent spirit for you? 188 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:19,858 No, I just don't really like bashing my country. 189 00:18:20,026 --> 00:18:24,358 It's my country too, and right now it has blood on its hands. 190 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:28,942 Sorry, I just have friends who are over there right now. 191 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:33,774 I'm not talking about the troops, I'm talking about the moron sending them to war. 192 00:18:33,942 --> 00:18:37,650 You mean our commander in chief? -Yeah. Whatever you wanna call him, he's still wrong. 193 00:18:37,818 --> 00:18:40,482 How do you know he's wrong? You're just lashing out. 194 00:18:40,650 --> 00:18:43,318 No, I'm not lashing out. I'm questioning our government. 195 00:18:43,482 --> 00:18:46,734 That's what we do in this country. That's the principle that we're founded on. 196 00:18:46,902 --> 00:18:51,526 Okay, but how about questioning the liberal media? 197 00:18:51,694 --> 00:18:55,858 You're just buying into what one side is saying. 198 00:18:56,026 --> 00:18:59,442 Maybe I am. Because my side is right. 199 00:18:59,610 --> 00:19:02,818 See that's funny, because my side is right. -Oh really? -Yeah. 200 00:19:04,482 --> 00:19:08,150 Why is it smart conservatives always make me so mad? 201 00:19:08,318 --> 00:19:10,982 Probably because you don't like hearing the truth. 202 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,982 You're a very frustrating individual. You know that? 203 00:19:16,402 --> 00:19:22,150 How am I gonna make you see -I can see just fine, thank you. 204 00:19:28,694 --> 00:19:31,066 That help at all? 205 00:19:31,234 --> 00:19:36,194 Nope, that did nothing for me. Tastes like liberal. 206 00:19:36,358 --> 00:19:39,234 Not my thing. 207 00:19:40,734 --> 00:19:45,110 "Bush lets U.S. spy on callers without courts." 208 00:19:45,274 --> 00:19:48,902 Is it Constitutional to bypass the courts? 209 00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:53,358 No. The fourth amendment prevents searches and seizures without a warrant. 210 00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,566 That's aboslutely right, Rio. Which means, 211 00:19:56,734 --> 00:20:01,858 your commander in chief, the President of the United States is breaking the law. 212 00:20:03,482 --> 00:20:06,026 That is what you're saying, isn't that, Rio? 213 00:20:06,194 --> 00:20:10,234 Well, I guess it depends on ... who you talk to. 214 00:20:10,402 --> 00:20:13,110 And if you talk to journalists? 215 00:20:13,274 --> 00:20:18,274 Who, more often than not, don't have the full picture or neglect to report it. 216 00:20:18,442 --> 00:20:21,194 You've only got a partial truth. 217 00:20:23,982 --> 00:20:28,234 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The FISA court. 218 00:20:28,402 --> 00:20:32,026 We do respect the fourth amendment in this country. 219 00:20:32,194 --> 00:20:34,982 We issue warrants based on suspicion. 220 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:38,982 But sometimes these warrants have to be issued by secret courts. 221 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:41,982 So we don't alret the suspect we're spying on. 222 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:46,818 And these court proceedings are classified, which means, surprise... 223 00:20:46,982 --> 00:20:51,442 They don't appear in papers such as the New York Times. 224 00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:56,858 Did you see my test scores? -Yes. Top of my class, like you. 225 00:20:57,026 --> 00:20:58,942 Here? -NSA. 226 00:20:59,110 --> 00:21:02,358 They liked me plenty. They put me on all the best teams. 227 00:21:02,526 --> 00:21:07,234 Soviet Frontier. Desert Storm. And then the big new challenge. 228 00:21:07,402 --> 00:21:11,858 Find the terrorists in the Internet haystack. Helluva haystack. 229 00:21:12,026 --> 00:21:16,482 Hundreds of terabytes a minute. I mean, it would take you 400 years to read the e-mails. 230 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:21,442 And then you have to analyze them. Sometimes the more you look, the less you see. 231 00:21:22,818 --> 00:21:25,566 What'd you come up with? -Something beautiful. In house... 232 00:21:25,734 --> 00:21:29,358 for three million dollars. A program that could differentiate between foreign 233 00:21:29,526 --> 00:21:31,358 and domestic... 234 00:21:31,526 --> 00:21:34,982 Encrypt every single we weren't targeting, so that it would remain private. 235 00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:40,150 It was elegant, streamlined. It was the best work I ever did. 236 00:21:40,318 --> 00:21:43,442 Take a seat. 237 00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:45,774 What was it called? 238 00:21:52,318 --> 00:21:57,650 Ed, rising to the top in our world 239 00:21:57,818 --> 00:22:01,274 can sometimes be hard on a man. 240 00:22:01,442 --> 00:22:05,650 I mean, you think you're making strides. 241 00:22:05,818 --> 00:22:09,194 You think you're taking the initiative. 242 00:22:09,358 --> 00:22:12,110 And then the next minute, they grind your work out of existence. 243 00:22:12,274 --> 00:22:17,234 They didn't use it? Why not? -Well, they never tell you why. 244 00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:21,358 Two years later, after 9/11, 245 00:22:21,526 --> 00:22:25,566 a friend of mine tells me about this new contractor program they're using. 246 00:22:25,734 --> 00:22:30,402 Cost four billion dollars to deploy; modeled after mine. 247 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:34,066 But with no filters, no automation. 248 00:22:34,234 --> 00:22:39,358 Ingested everything. They were drowning in data. It was a fucking disaster. 249 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:43,318 But there must have been some bigger picture, right? I mean, 250 00:22:43,482 --> 00:22:45,858 spending that kind of money. They're not stupid. 251 00:22:46,026 --> 00:22:50,818 You would think intelligence would count for something in the intelligence business. 252 00:22:50,982 --> 00:22:55,650 But you want to know what it really is? What really sets the agenda? 253 00:22:56,982 --> 00:23:02,358 Military industrial happiness management. 254 00:23:02,526 --> 00:23:07,902 You keep the coffers open in Congress, you keep the money flowing to the contractors. 255 00:23:08,066 --> 00:23:11,818 Efficiency, results, they go out the window. 256 00:23:11,982 --> 00:23:15,694 Not to mention ... 257 00:23:16,858 --> 00:23:21,110 Well, you're late for class. -Okay, thank you. 258 00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:26,026 Oh, can I take another one? -Sure. 259 00:23:32,194 --> 00:23:34,942 Did you ever say anything to anybody? 260 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:39,274 Yeah, I went to legal. We filed complaints. 261 00:23:39,442 --> 00:23:43,902 Now here I am, tucked away, teaching you. 262 00:23:46,026 --> 00:23:50,150 Maybe that's more important in the long run. You're getting better. 263 00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:10,274 My favorite spot on campus. 264 00:24:10,442 --> 00:24:12,902 Do you hunt, Ed? 265 00:24:15,734 --> 00:24:19,902 Uh, just some skeet shooting with my dad a few times, but I never went hunting. 266 00:24:20,066 --> 00:24:23,610 We'll go one day. -That'd be great. 267 00:24:23,774 --> 00:24:27,274 Mr. O'Brien, can I ask you a question? -How about just calling me Corbin? 268 00:24:27,442 --> 00:24:31,650 Okay. Thank you, sir. Corbin. 269 00:24:31,818 --> 00:24:36,274 I was talking with Hank Forrester, and I wanted to know 270 00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:41,482 are all of our SIGINT programs specifically targeted? 271 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:45,442 Of course. What good would they be if they weren't? 272 00:24:46,858 --> 00:24:49,150 Yeah, I don't know. 273 00:24:50,526 --> 00:24:55,982 Do you have a girlfriend, Ed? -Uh, nothing serious. 274 00:24:56,150 --> 00:24:59,110 What's her name? -Lindsay. 275 00:24:59,274 --> 00:25:01,858 She going with you? 276 00:25:02,026 --> 00:25:05,234 No, I wouldn't want to put her in any danger. 277 00:25:05,402 --> 00:25:09,110 Well, you don't have to. We're not sending you to the Middle East. 278 00:25:13,318 --> 00:25:18,566 Sir, I'm your best student. Doesn't that count for something? 279 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:23,774 In 20 years, Iraq'll be a hellhole nobody cares about. 280 00:25:23,942 --> 00:25:26,066 Terrorism's a short-term threat. 281 00:25:26,234 --> 00:25:30,358 The real threats will come from China, Russia, Iran. 282 00:25:30,526 --> 00:25:33,442 And they'll come as SQL injections and malware. 283 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:38,066 Without minds like yours, this country will be torn apart in cyberspace. 284 00:25:38,234 --> 00:25:43,150 I don't wanna risk losing you for some horseshit war over sand and oil. 285 00:25:45,234 --> 00:25:47,194 Sir, I'm surprised to hear you say that. 286 00:25:47,358 --> 00:25:52,150 You don't have to agree with your politicians to be a patriot. 287 00:25:55,026 --> 00:25:59,442 Sir, where are you sending me? -Take a moment. Enjoy the view. 288 00:26:06,318 --> 00:26:11,442 HONG KONG TUESDAY, June 4, 2013 289 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:22,858 This is Laura. 290 00:26:23,026 --> 00:26:26,902 Hello. -Hello, nice to meet you. 291 00:26:27,066 --> 00:26:30,358 Ewen MacAskill from the Guardian. It's nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. 292 00:26:30,526 --> 00:26:33,610 Um, if you don't mind, I'd like to record some... -Ah. 293 00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:38,110 Cell phones go in the microwave. -Dare I ask why? 294 00:26:38,274 --> 00:26:41,734 We'll get to that after you ask your questions. 295 00:26:41,902 --> 00:26:44,982 Before we get on to the story, I need to know more about you. 296 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:51,234 Like, your career, by a glance account, is very varied, but the Guardian needs evidence ... 297 00:26:51,402 --> 00:26:54,650 Yeah, this is my diplomatic passport for friendly countries. 298 00:26:54,818 --> 00:26:58,194 My tourist passports for everywhere else. You can check the visa stamps. 299 00:26:58,358 --> 00:27:01,774 My NSA badge with Booz Allen. My CIA badge with Dell. 300 00:27:01,942 --> 00:27:05,442 And this is my DIA instructor's badge. 301 00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:08,610 This is a photo of me with Michael Hayden, 302 00:27:08,774 --> 00:27:12,026 the former head of the NSA and the CIA. 303 00:27:12,194 --> 00:27:14,734 When can you publish? 304 00:27:14,902 --> 00:27:17,694 K, um, do you mind if I sit down? -No, please. 305 00:27:20,026 --> 00:27:26,150 Glenn says, you want to tell people your identity. How do you think your goverment's going to react? 306 00:27:26,318 --> 00:27:28,982 Well, they'll charge me under the espionage act. 307 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:32,274 And they'll say I endangered national security. 308 00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:35,402 They'll demonize me, and my friends and family. 309 00:27:35,566 --> 00:27:39,358 And they'll throw me in jail. That's the best case scenario. 310 00:27:39,526 --> 00:27:41,150 And the worst? 311 00:27:41,318 --> 00:27:45,694 Well, if I don't have any media cover, then I'll be rendered by the CIA 312 00:27:45,858 --> 00:27:48,902 and interrogated outside of the law. 313 00:27:49,066 --> 00:27:53,818 They have a station right up the street. -But how would they know what you did? 314 00:27:53,982 --> 00:27:57,150 Because I left a digital footprint in my logs. So they'll figure it out. 315 00:27:57,318 --> 00:28:01,566 I did not want a manhunt. I know what they would do to my colleagues. 316 00:28:02,734 --> 00:28:09,194 Look, Mr. MacAskill, this is not about money or anything for me. 317 00:28:09,358 --> 00:28:12,026 There's no hidden agenda. I just wanted to get this data 318 00:28:12,194 --> 00:28:14,610 to established journalists like yourselves 319 00:28:14,774 --> 00:28:18,566 so that you can present it to the world, and the people can decide. 320 00:28:18,734 --> 00:28:21,150 Either I'm wrong 321 00:28:21,318 --> 00:28:25,858 or there's something going on inside the government, that's really wrong. 322 00:28:28,774 --> 00:28:31,818 So... 323 00:28:31,982 --> 00:28:38,066 This one is everything I have on your British intelligence agency, the GCHQ. 324 00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:40,942 The encryption key will follow. 325 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:46,734 You're gonna want your technical people at the Guardian to look through that thoroughly. There's a lot of stuff there. 326 00:28:50,402 --> 00:28:54,734 Listen, they're gonna investigate, and they're gonna figure out what I've done. 327 00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:58,610 And then they're gonna come for me. And now that we've made contact, 328 00:29:00,482 --> 00:29:03,610 they're gonna come for all of you, too. 329 00:29:10,526 --> 00:29:13,026 Do you mind if I go look in the microwave? 330 00:29:19,858 --> 00:29:22,318 THE GUARDIAN U.S. NEW YORK OFFICE 331 00:29:22,482 --> 00:29:26,650 Ewen, I'm on with Stuart. -How are you, Ewen? 332 00:29:26,818 --> 00:29:33,194 Hi, Stuart. Look I've got one thing to say. The Guinness here is great. 333 00:29:33,358 --> 00:29:36,650 Wonderful. -Absolutely the genuine article. -Good. 334 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,982 But shockingly different from what you expect. 335 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:44,902 So, now we have the lawyers to deal with and no doubt the White House. 336 00:29:46,274 --> 00:29:48,982 I got the go ahead. -That's great. 337 00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:54,026 Good, let's get started. We have a lot to go through here and it's not easy reading. -We can start by showing him XKeyscore. 338 00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:57,818 Good idea. Can you bring it up again and walk us through it? -Yeah. 339 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:09,318 Do we all get under there now? -He's protecting his passwords. 340 00:30:09,482 --> 00:30:12,026 Okay, so... 341 00:30:15,942 --> 00:30:21,942 This was introduced during my first deployment at the CIA in Geneva. 342 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:26,774 XKeyscore. What does that do? 343 00:30:26,942 --> 00:30:30,194 It's like a search interface. 344 00:30:31,774 --> 00:30:35,150 What does it search for? -Anything you want. 345 00:30:36,982 --> 00:30:39,694 What was your assignment in Geneva? 346 00:30:39,858 --> 00:30:43,650 Well, I was assigned with diplomatic cover to the U.N. mission to 347 00:30:43,818 --> 00:30:47,818 maintain the CIA's computer security network. 348 00:30:49,902 --> 00:30:54,526 I spent almost two years around CIA field officers. 349 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,818 I'm sorry, sir, I don't understand. 350 00:31:04,982 --> 00:31:09,234 Sherman says you hacked the Human Resources site. -Yeah, it's my job to find flaws. 351 00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:14,066 The security of the HR site is not your problem. You went outside the wheelhouse. 352 00:31:14,234 --> 00:31:17,194 Okay, but just to clarify, I did not hack. 353 00:31:17,358 --> 00:31:20,194 I showed that it could be hacked. You told me to find a patch. 354 00:31:20,358 --> 00:31:22,358 Do you have that in writing? -Yes, I do. 355 00:31:22,526 --> 00:31:25,274 Remember, I sent you the proof of concept. 356 00:31:28,066 --> 00:31:31,694 Doesn't matter what you did, Snowden, right or wrong, you need to let these things be someone else's problem. 357 00:31:31,858 --> 00:31:35,066 He's also put a derog in your file. -Excuse me? 358 00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:40,358 Let that be a lesson. I don't want him calling me again about another Ed Snowden moment. Okay? 359 00:31:44,274 --> 00:31:49,194 Why don't you take it easy the rest of the day. Go work on the scrubbing pile? 360 00:31:54,358 --> 00:31:57,110 That didn't look like it went well. -Uh hey man, uh yeah 361 00:31:57,274 --> 00:32:00,734 No, I just got a derog for doing my job. 362 00:32:00,902 --> 00:32:04,650 Politics, man. Culture of fear wins again. 363 00:32:04,818 --> 00:32:06,942 I can't get anything done here. 364 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:11,526 Hey um, what about that idea that we've been talking about? -I'm workin' on it. 365 00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:14,442 I'm waiting for a callback from our friend at The Hill. 366 00:32:14,610 --> 00:32:17,566 Corbin? You called Corbin? Do you think he could do something? 367 00:32:17,734 --> 00:32:20,694 We'll see. Maybe some limited field ops under my supervision. 368 00:32:20,858 --> 00:32:23,818 Yes, that would be amazing, I would love... -Easy, Ed. 369 00:32:23,982 --> 00:32:28,234 I've gotta see a cleric in Milan. We'll talk after. -Okay. Thank you. 370 00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:49,942 Damn, CIA does not like to leave a trace, huh? -Can I help you? 371 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:52,358 Ever been curious to check one out? 372 00:32:52,526 --> 00:32:55,610 See what crazy ass covert kill mission you might be erasing from history? 373 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:58,526 I'm sorry, who are you with? -No Such Agency. 374 00:32:58,694 --> 00:33:03,650 I'm Gabriel Sol. I'm the 50 pound brain from the council of wizards and warlocks. 375 00:33:03,818 --> 00:33:06,858 Excuse me? -Give me your intel for Bucharest, dude. 376 00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:09,566 Oh. Unless there's another Dave Churchyard. 377 00:33:09,734 --> 00:33:12,194 No, that's me. Right this way. 378 00:33:16,026 --> 00:33:18,526 I'll be right outside. -You stay if you want. 379 00:33:18,694 --> 00:33:22,774 Uh no, I don't have authorization to use NSA programs. 380 00:33:22,942 --> 00:33:28,734 If you're the messenger to Bucharest, you must have PRIVAC clearance to see the finished intel, yes? -Yeah. 381 00:33:28,902 --> 00:33:32,402 So what difference does it make if you see how it's put together. 382 00:33:34,566 --> 00:33:36,482 It's up to you, man. 383 00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:44,902 You're giving me just names? -Aye, a lot more than names. 384 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:48,318 What I will be providing you and the fine gentlemen of the Secret Service, 385 00:33:48,482 --> 00:33:52,858 is a list of every threat about the president since February 3rd. 386 00:33:53,026 --> 00:33:56,858 And a profile of every threat maker. 387 00:33:57,026 --> 00:34:00,650 And these are, like, existing targets? 388 00:34:00,818 --> 00:34:04,234 99% are gonna come from the bulk collection program, so... 389 00:34:04,402 --> 00:34:08,358 Upstream, Muscular, Tempora, PRISM. PRISM? 390 00:34:10,026 --> 00:34:12,694 You got a little Snow White in you. 391 00:34:12,858 --> 00:34:17,526 Almost makes me feel like the witch bringing you a poison apple. 392 00:34:17,694 --> 00:34:21,734 Exhibit A: Oakland resident Justin Pinsky posted on a message board: 393 00:34:21,902 --> 00:34:24,610 "Romania has a storied history of executing their leaders, 394 00:34:24,774 --> 00:34:28,402 couldn't they do us a solid and take out Bush?" 395 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,358 Oh, this looks juicy. It's from a Gchat. 396 00:34:31,526 --> 00:34:33,526 [I'm going to attack your bush...] 397 00:34:33,694 --> 00:34:38,234 "... With the biggest python, you've ever seen." 398 00:34:38,402 --> 00:34:40,774 How is this all possible? 399 00:34:40,942 --> 00:34:45,482 Um, keyword selectors. "attack", "take out bush". 400 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:48,902 So think of it as a Google search, except instead of searching 401 00:34:49,066 --> 00:34:52,194 only what people make public , we're also looking at everything they don't, so 402 00:34:52,358 --> 00:34:57,610 E-mail, chats, SMS. Whatever. -Yes, but which people? 403 00:34:57,774 --> 00:35:00,026 The whole kingdom, Snow White. 404 00:35:06,696 --> 00:35:11,320 Which ambassador is he again? -De la Hoya, the World Trade Organization. 405 00:35:26,944 --> 00:35:29,652 So, O'Brien came through for ya. 406 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:33,904 He agrees your talents are being wasted. You ready for a little action? 407 00:35:34,072 --> 00:35:38,280 Really? You mean right here? -Yeah. 408 00:35:38,444 --> 00:35:41,196 You see the woman in the pink number? 409 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,196 Credit Suisse. JP Morgan's on her arm. 410 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,820 Grandma's with Deutsche Bank. 10,000 bankers in this town... 411 00:35:47,988 --> 00:35:49,860 all you need to turn is one. 412 00:35:50,028 --> 00:35:53,612 Socialize. Meet a few. Preferably one sitting on a 413 00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:59,236 pile of dirty Saudi money that's funding Bin Laden. 414 00:35:59,404 --> 00:36:04,112 Churchyard. -This man is either a fool or a spy. 415 00:36:07,488 --> 00:36:10,112 Mr. Nembrini? asks you, business card please. 416 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,944 An ambassador. Wow. I wish I had your schmoozing skills. 417 00:36:15,112 --> 00:36:19,280 That's why you have me. -Don't know any banker, do you? 418 00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:22,652 Bankers? Are you on some kind of assignment or something? 419 00:36:24,612 --> 00:36:30,072 I'm relationship cultivating, and not well. 420 00:36:30,236 --> 00:36:34,280 Let me help. -No, this is serious. 421 00:36:34,444 --> 00:36:36,736 I know it's serious. Trust me. 422 00:36:39,196 --> 00:36:42,612 Any luck? -No. No bites. 423 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:45,528 Is there some kinda trick to it? 424 00:36:45,696 --> 00:36:48,696 It's all about finding the pressure point. 425 00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:51,488 Everything else is just pushin' em. 426 00:36:53,488 --> 00:36:56,112 Looks like you're being summoned. 427 00:37:00,196 --> 00:37:03,696 Marwan, may I interrupt? This is my boyfriend Dave. 428 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,196 Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 429 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,072 Marwan works at Monfort. We were talking 430 00:37:09,236 --> 00:37:13,320 and after last week he may be able to give you some tips. 431 00:37:13,488 --> 00:37:16,572 Gentlemen, I'll see you inside -Last week? 432 00:37:16,736 --> 00:37:20,444 He's embarrassed. It was a lot of money for us. 433 00:37:22,652 --> 00:37:27,196 Day trading is a perilous sport. You shouldn't be ashamed of it. 434 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,780 Yeah. I'm gonna grab some food. See you guys inside? 435 00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:32,904 Sure. 436 00:37:33,072 --> 00:37:35,944 You have a lovely girlfriend. -Thank you so much. 437 00:37:36,112 --> 00:37:40,404 You know I work in IT, and so I just figured I could crack the market 438 00:37:40,572 --> 00:37:42,404 like a weak network. 439 00:37:42,572 --> 00:37:46,028 May I ask how precipitous were your losses? 440 00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:50,404 Well, I told Lindsay it was 20,000, but between you and me 441 00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:55,112 it was closer to 45. I tried to recoup, but 442 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,572 that was a mistake, and now without any real grounding, I feel like I'm just sliding out of control. 443 00:37:59,736 --> 00:38:05,904 I've seen it many times and I'm always happy to help a man break a bad habit before it gets going. 444 00:38:06,072 --> 00:38:08,280 Well, thank you, I really appreciate it. 445 00:38:09,404 --> 00:38:12,780 It's the cleanest Pakistani I've ever seen. 446 00:38:12,944 --> 00:38:17,820 You got no first degree ties to government or ISI. No shady family. 447 00:38:17,988 --> 00:38:22,280 Second degree contacts are off the charts, but that's everyone in the Middle East with a six-figure income. 448 00:38:22,444 --> 00:38:26,404 It's not dirt that we need necessarily. It's a pressure point. 449 00:38:26,572 --> 00:38:31,696 Something intimate. Some kind of weakness. Can we look through his family? 450 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:37,280 How about his sister-in-law? 451 00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:46,612 What is that? Is that some video that she sent somebody? -No, this is live. 452 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,820 Out of Paris. -What do you mean "live"? 453 00:38:49,988 --> 00:38:52,944 Optic Nerve. It's camera and mic activation. 454 00:38:53,112 --> 00:38:55,196 I wish we could take credit, but the Brits wrote it. 455 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,320 Activation? -Yeah, her laptop's off. 456 00:39:00,488 --> 00:39:04,696 Or was. She just forgot to close it. Of course, how would she now? The shit is so sly the webcam light doesn't even turn on. 457 00:39:12,572 --> 00:39:16,736 I've always wondered what was under those. 458 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:26,028 Let's stick to family in Geneva. Alright? 459 00:39:26,196 --> 00:39:29,152 Okay, Snow White. 460 00:39:30,028 --> 00:39:33,528 Uh 15-year-old daughter at the International School. 461 00:39:33,696 --> 00:39:37,988 Facebook? Is that possible? -Dude, Facebook is my bitch. 462 00:39:38,152 --> 00:39:42,488 Seriously? If she fights with her parents... 463 00:39:42,652 --> 00:39:46,112 Don't worry. I know all the hooks for this kinda fishing. 464 00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:50,612 Query name? E-mail, keyword, whatever selectee we want. 465 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,988 And justification is where I write. 466 00:39:57,028 --> 00:40:00,280 In other words, turning her daddy into a CIA informant. 467 00:40:00,444 --> 00:40:02,572 That's it? -That's it, bro. 468 00:40:02,736 --> 00:40:06,280 You don't have to get a FISA court order? 469 00:40:06,444 --> 00:40:10,780 No, not here. XKeyscore's under 702 authority, which means no warrants. 470 00:40:10,944 --> 00:40:14,652 Okay, but U.S. targets, then you'd have to get the court order? 471 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:18,236 You mean FISA? Yeah, that's just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude. 472 00:40:18,404 --> 00:40:21,572 I mean, FISA judges are all appointed by the chief justice, who's like, you know... 473 00:40:23,904 --> 00:40:28,028 Darth Vader when it comes to national security. Boom. 474 00:40:31,612 --> 00:40:36,988 And the boy, third base, is... 475 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,780 ... Nadim. Okay. 476 00:40:42,488 --> 00:40:47,652 He's 18. Salmasays she wants to marry him. But she's scared of her parents. 477 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,236 And what she does not know is that his other name is... 478 00:40:52,404 --> 00:40:54,572 Nicolas. 479 00:40:54,736 --> 00:40:58,820 And he's currently banging Geraldine and Julie. 480 00:40:58,988 --> 00:41:00,988 And... 481 00:41:04,196 --> 00:41:08,696 He and his Turkish mother are here illegally. 482 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,860 That's it. 483 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:32,196 What are we doing here? -You're making people very happy. 484 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:38,444 Mr. Marwan's bank handles serious Saudi money and a whole bunch of Russian billionaires. 485 00:41:38,612 --> 00:41:43,444 What about any al Qaeda money? Anything promising? 486 00:41:43,612 --> 00:41:47,820 Ed, I'm up for a promotion soon; I will not forget my friends. 487 00:41:47,988 --> 00:41:53,860 Thank you. This is all going kinda fast. I just sent some initial background. 488 00:41:54,028 --> 00:41:57,072 There he is. The man. -Hello, Marwan. 489 00:41:57,236 --> 00:42:01,652 Dave. How wonderful to see you. -Good to see you too. 490 00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:05,944 I counting, Marwan. You snuck in an extra half hour back there. 491 00:42:06,112 --> 00:42:10,236 I'm afraid she was merely listening to an old man's woes. 492 00:42:10,404 --> 00:42:13,780 Oh, I see. -How are you, Marwan? 493 00:42:16,028 --> 00:42:19,572 I must tell you, Dave, since we met 494 00:42:19,736 --> 00:42:23,320 my life has got somewhat topsy-turvey. 495 00:42:23,488 --> 00:42:26,028 I'm sorry to hear that. 496 00:42:26,196 --> 00:42:30,696 But your colleague Charles has graciously offered his help. 497 00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:35,780 So I owe him and you a great deal. -Can I ask what happened? 498 00:42:35,944 --> 00:42:38,988 My daughter had a ... 499 00:42:39,152 --> 00:42:43,612 Marwan's daughter took too many sleeping pills. She's alright. 500 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:47,112 It had something to do with her boyfriend, who was recently deported. 501 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,944 We're trying to secure a visa for him. 502 00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:54,404 Even so, I'm afraid that Salma will... 503 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,072 I'm sorry. I won't trouble you with such matters. 504 00:42:58,236 --> 00:43:03,360 Hey. Talk as much as you want. Alright? Family comes first. 505 00:43:16,612 --> 00:43:19,572 Where is my beauty? 506 00:43:19,736 --> 00:43:23,152 I'm never like this. 507 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,236 You sit down, huh? Just sit tight. 508 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:33,780 What the fuck's going on? 509 00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:38,736 I've been acting quickly and effectively on very good signals intelligence you provided. 510 00:43:38,904 --> 00:43:43,196 And if his daughter had died? -We could've used that, too. 511 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,528 Are you serious? What, in the name of a promotion? 512 00:43:48,612 --> 00:43:51,780 Marwan can't be away from his family right now. 513 00:43:51,944 --> 00:43:56,820 So in the morning, when he's facing jail, we're gonna offer him a deal. 514 00:43:56,988 --> 00:43:59,152 And he won't turn it down. Jail? For what? 515 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,528 Drunk driving. Now, I want you to call the police. Tell em you saw a Mercedes... 516 00:44:04,696 --> 00:44:07,944 No, he's not driving right now. Look at him, he'll kill himself. 517 00:44:10,528 --> 00:44:13,360 Okay. I'll call em. -Hey. 518 00:44:13,528 --> 00:44:15,944 He's not driving. 519 00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:21,944 Remind me, are you authorized on any of the NSA programs you use? 520 00:44:22,112 --> 00:44:25,488 So we're both doin' a little fucked up shit here, uh? 521 00:44:25,652 --> 00:44:29,736 Watch yourself, Ed. -I will tell him who you are. 522 00:44:29,904 --> 00:44:35,528 You reveal the identity of an undercover officer, you're going to jail for a lot longer than Marwan. 523 00:44:56,404 --> 00:45:00,028 Hey. -Sorry I'm so late. 524 00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:04,112 How was work? 525 00:45:06,072 --> 00:45:08,736 It was... 526 00:45:08,904 --> 00:45:10,696 alright. 527 00:45:10,860 --> 00:45:16,944 I have to wake up in like, three hours. My flight's at seven. 528 00:45:20,652 --> 00:45:24,028 Better be quick, then. 529 00:46:08,488 --> 00:46:11,860 I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies 530 00:46:12,028 --> 00:46:14,696 with tools they need to track and take out the terrorists 531 00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:18,028 without undermining our Constitution and our freedom. 532 00:46:18,196 --> 00:46:21,780 That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. 533 00:46:21,944 --> 00:46:26,652 No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. 534 00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:29,280 Hey hon. -Hey. 535 00:46:29,444 --> 00:46:33,280 What happened to the London trip? 536 00:46:33,444 --> 00:46:35,696 Uh, turns out I'm not going. 537 00:46:38,944 --> 00:46:42,072 What's going on? Who's winning? 538 00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:48,612 Still early. 539 00:46:52,944 --> 00:46:57,528 Obama ahead 67% to 32%. -Come on, big ears. 540 00:46:57,696 --> 00:47:00,236 ...check out Florida. 541 00:47:04,652 --> 00:47:07,404 Holy shit, he's gonna win it. 542 00:47:07,572 --> 00:47:09,320 Florida? -Yeah! 543 00:47:09,488 --> 00:47:12,904 That's big. -It's huge. 544 00:47:13,072 --> 00:47:17,360 You can act nonchalant, but I know you are starting to root for him. 545 00:47:17,528 --> 00:47:21,572 I've been watching your inner liberal grow. Which I will take a modest percentage of the credit for. 546 00:47:21,736 --> 00:47:24,612 And you deserve it. 547 00:47:27,196 --> 00:47:29,488 What is this? 548 00:47:32,904 --> 00:47:35,112 Oh, yeah, that. Just leave that there. 549 00:47:37,028 --> 00:47:42,112 Russian hackers. Agency says they can activate webcams now. 550 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,072 That's creepy -Yeah, it's bothering me. 551 00:47:46,236 --> 00:47:51,028 Whatever. It's not a big deal. You shouldn't even bother you. -It's not a big deal? 552 00:47:51,196 --> 00:47:54,320 What, that someone could be watching you right now? 553 00:47:54,488 --> 00:47:58,028 No, I'm not hiding anything. 554 00:47:58,196 --> 00:48:03,112 That's such a bullshit line. -What is? -Nothing to hide. 555 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360 I don't. -Everyone does. 556 00:48:06,528 --> 00:48:09,572 Okay, well then what do I have to hide? 557 00:48:09,736 --> 00:48:13,488 Forget it. -No. What have I have to hide? 558 00:48:13,652 --> 00:48:17,072 No, let's just drop it -Apparently you think that I'm hiding something, so... 559 00:48:17,236 --> 00:48:22,488 Okay, the other day your computer was open and I happened to notice you were on the site where we met 560 00:48:22,652 --> 00:48:26,404 ...and you're looking at other guys. -So you just were looking at my computer? 561 00:48:26,572 --> 00:48:30,360 I wouldn't have even brought this up. You asked me what do I have to hide, 562 00:48:30,528 --> 00:48:34,236 that's something you're not telling me. 563 00:48:36,488 --> 00:48:40,488 Well, it's... it's not... I don't do anything. I don't meet any of those people. 564 00:48:43,988 --> 00:48:48,112 You're gone for weeks at a time. So it's like I'm peering into other people's lives 565 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,404 because my own is just temporarily on hold. 566 00:48:51,572 --> 00:48:55,280 That sounds like an excuse. -It's the truth. 567 00:49:11,444 --> 00:49:17,736 I should've told you, and I didn't. Sorry. 568 00:49:17,904 --> 00:49:21,196 But it's not a big deal. 569 00:49:33,904 --> 00:49:37,612 Look at me. I don't want anyone else. 570 00:49:38,696 --> 00:49:43,320 I do not want any other life. Okay? 571 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,652 Listen , uh... 572 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,404 I didn't go to London today because I resigned. 573 00:50:07,572 --> 00:50:12,572 What? -Personal differences. A matter of principle. 574 00:50:14,152 --> 00:50:16,528 Can you tell me anything else? 575 00:50:19,612 --> 00:50:24,028 Did you get reposted? -No, I resigned the CIA. 576 00:50:25,236 --> 00:50:28,404 So what does that mean? What do we do -I don't know. 577 00:50:28,572 --> 00:50:31,904 I'll figure it out, but listen... 578 00:50:33,152 --> 00:50:36,360 This is a good thing. Trust me. 579 00:50:41,196 --> 00:50:43,572 I do. 580 00:50:55,072 --> 00:50:57,736 He's gonna win . 581 00:50:59,404 --> 00:51:01,780 He better. 582 00:51:01,944 --> 00:51:08,612 CNN can now project that Barack Obama, 47 years old, will become the president of the United States. 583 00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:14,028 Every agency and depratment should know that this administration stands on the side 584 00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:18,112 not on those who seek to withhold information but those who seek to make it known. 585 00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:25,350 Janine is the website editor of a small, stateside office of a British newspaper 586 00:51:25,514 --> 00:51:28,558 up against the most powerful government in the world. 587 00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:30,058 She won't be bullied. 588 00:51:30,222 --> 00:51:35,806 We need to establish that we're not compromising national security by publishing. -We need to have alternatives. 589 00:51:35,974 --> 00:51:40,930 Listen, Ed. The real issue here is the day the White House are aware that Janine has 590 00:51:41,098 --> 00:51:44,222 leaked, top secret FISA court order, 591 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:49,558 anything could happen. They subpoena the Guardian. For that matter, they could break through that door any minute ending all of this. 592 00:51:50,682 --> 00:51:57,222 We are running out of time. We seriously have to think about doing this on our own website. We have no choice. 593 00:51:57,390 --> 00:52:01,014 You can't just start dumping articles on the Internet. 594 00:52:01,182 --> 00:52:04,014 Look at WikiLeaks. It destroyed their credibility. 595 00:52:04,182 --> 00:52:09,350 Look, Ed, you said it yourself, if this isn't done properly, the world isn't going to take notice. 596 00:52:09,514 --> 00:52:14,930 You need experienced journalists to lead the public through some very, very complicated stories. 597 00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:18,514 We are experienced journalists. -My feeling... 598 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:29,350 Has anyone called here before? -Not once. Not in three weeks. 599 00:52:29,514 --> 00:52:32,766 Well, shall I answer it? Tell them it's a wrong number. 600 00:52:34,182 --> 00:52:35,638 Yes? 601 00:52:36,806 --> 00:52:39,014 No I don't. 602 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,850 Okay. Thank you. 603 00:52:43,766 --> 00:52:46,722 Asked if I wanted turndown service and she said 604 00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:50,474 the "do not disturb" sign was off the door. 605 00:53:06,682 --> 00:53:08,098 So? 606 00:53:09,058 --> 00:53:11,890 Do we wait or go on our own? 607 00:53:13,850 --> 00:53:18,974 Look, I said from the beginning that how you publish is your business and I trust you. 608 00:53:19,138 --> 00:53:22,766 The only thing I ask is you study the data and you be responsible. 609 00:53:22,930 --> 00:53:27,430 No names. No specifics. Anything ongoing that's critical, you don't release. 610 00:53:27,598 --> 00:53:31,138 Just stick to the issue of mass surveillance, and let the people decide. 611 00:53:31,306 --> 00:53:35,306 You have our word on that, but that's not the question. We have to ask... 612 00:53:36,306 --> 00:53:40,806 Right now the White House is arranging a conference call between Janine and the intelligence services. 613 00:53:40,974 --> 00:53:46,182 Now that's gonna happen in a few hours. Let's at least wait for that. 614 00:53:46,350 --> 00:53:49,014 See what they say to her. 615 00:53:52,266 --> 00:53:54,350 I say we pause a moment. 616 00:53:55,930 --> 00:54:00,350 Yeah, I think we should reassemble in this room after the call takes place. 617 00:54:00,514 --> 00:54:04,138 So that's around midnight; be noon in New York. -Alright. 618 00:54:05,058 --> 00:54:07,850 I'll take another pass at the PRISM story in the meantime. 619 00:54:08,014 --> 00:54:12,350 We'll be in our hotel room if you need us, okay? 620 00:54:21,638 --> 00:54:24,930 You mind, maybe we take a break from that? For a second. 621 00:54:27,098 --> 00:54:29,222 Yes, sorry. 622 00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:34,974 You wanna take a look? Might make you feel better. It's not recording, just on standby. 623 00:54:39,638 --> 00:54:43,598 When did this start for you? Not wanting your photo taken? 624 00:54:43,766 --> 00:54:49,138 Uh, probably in Japan. Remember every time a camera pointed at me, it was... 625 00:54:50,138 --> 00:54:53,390 I couldn't breathe. -Why was that? 626 00:54:53,558 --> 00:54:58,098 I probably spent too much time looking at other people through cameras. 627 00:54:59,138 --> 00:55:01,514 Japan was your first NSA job, right? 628 00:55:01,682 --> 00:55:06,390 Yeah, well as a contractor; Dell. I had a lot of access. 629 00:55:06,558 --> 00:55:09,850 Why'd you go back after Geneva? 630 00:55:12,098 --> 00:55:15,558 Because of the money, and because I wanted to live in Japan. 631 00:55:15,722 --> 00:55:20,390 And because of Obama, actually. You know, I thought things were gonna get better with him. 632 00:55:23,722 --> 00:55:25,598 I was wrong. 633 00:55:28,682 --> 00:55:30,890 YOKOTA AIR BASE, TOKYO 2009 634 00:55:31,058 --> 00:55:33,306 What was it like there? 635 00:55:33,474 --> 00:55:37,222 Well, the first part of my day, I was building this round-the-clock backup system 636 00:55:37,390 --> 00:55:39,514 called Epic Shelter. 637 00:55:39,682 --> 00:55:45,182 So if there was some catastrophe, say uh, terrorists burn down every embassy 638 00:55:45,350 --> 00:55:49,138 and NSA post in the the Middle East, this program would ensure 639 00:55:49,306 --> 00:55:52,266 we wouldn't lose any of that data. 640 00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:56,638 But then I would have to put it aside when visitors would show. 641 00:55:56,806 --> 00:56:02,638 NSA wanted to impress the Japanese. Show them our reach. 642 00:56:02,806 --> 00:56:06,098 They loved the live drone feeds. 643 00:56:06,266 --> 00:56:09,890 This is Pakistan right now. 644 00:56:13,098 --> 00:56:16,638 They were not as thrilled to learn that we wanted them to help us 645 00:56:16,806 --> 00:56:19,806 spy on the Japanese population. 646 00:56:19,974 --> 00:56:22,514 They said it was against their laws. 647 00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:26,974 Of course, we tapped the entire country anyway. 648 00:56:27,138 --> 00:56:31,058 And we didn't stop there. Once we owned their communication systems 649 00:56:31,222 --> 00:56:34,138 started going after the physical infrastructure. 650 00:56:34,306 --> 00:56:40,014 We'd slipped these little sleeper programs into power grids, dams, hospitals. 651 00:56:40,182 --> 00:56:44,722 And the idea was if the day came when Japan was no longer an ally 652 00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:47,430 it'd be lights out. 653 00:56:49,850 --> 00:56:53,474 And it wasn't just the Japanese. We were planting malware in Mexico, 654 00:56:53,638 --> 00:56:56,474 Germany, Brazil, Austria. 655 00:56:57,974 --> 00:57:02,390 I mean, China I can understand. Or Russia or Iran. Venezuela, okay. 656 00:57:02,558 --> 00:57:04,682 But, Austria? 657 00:57:05,682 --> 00:57:10,514 You're also being ordered to follow most world leaders and heads of industry. 658 00:57:10,682 --> 00:57:15,474 You know, you're tracking trade deals, sex scandals, diplomatic cables 659 00:57:15,638 --> 00:57:19,558 to give the U.S. an advantage in negotiations at the G8 660 00:57:19,722 --> 00:57:23,266 or leverage over Brazilian oil companies. 661 00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,638 Or helping to oust some third world leader who's not playing ball. 662 00:57:29,058 --> 00:57:34,182 And ultimately the truth sinks in that no matter what justification you're selling yourself 663 00:57:34,350 --> 00:57:37,138 this is not about terrorism. 664 00:57:37,306 --> 00:57:39,930 Terrorism is the excuse. 665 00:57:42,722 --> 00:57:47,430 This is about economic and social control. 666 00:57:49,098 --> 00:57:54,138 And the only thing you're really protecting is the supremacy of your government. 667 00:58:03,306 --> 00:58:06,558 Did you think about going to journalists then? 668 00:58:06,722 --> 00:58:10,638 No, that wouldn't have occurred to me back then. 669 00:58:10,806 --> 00:58:15,598 I thought that the system will self correct. 670 00:58:15,766 --> 00:58:19,598 The President will keep the promise that got him elected. 671 00:58:20,974 --> 00:58:24,514 That's actually when I started reading about you and your films. 672 00:58:24,682 --> 00:58:28,722 It was in Glenn's blog, you were being detained in airports for hours? 673 00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:32,850 37 times. Investigating your own country's wars. 674 00:58:33,014 --> 00:58:36,430 That's why I'm going back to Berlin to edit. 675 00:58:36,598 --> 00:58:39,722 You can trust me with this -I do. 676 00:58:41,182 --> 00:58:45,390 I haven't trusted anyone in years. 677 00:58:48,514 --> 00:58:53,722 It was a welcome change when they put me on terrorism watch duty. 678 00:58:54,638 --> 00:58:58,474 Every day I'd go in and I'd get starting points for SIGINT. 679 00:58:58,638 --> 00:59:01,098 Signals intelligence. 680 00:59:02,306 --> 00:59:05,850 A lot of them were American, which felt strange 681 00:59:06,014 --> 00:59:08,306 but you just keep reminding yourself 682 00:59:08,474 --> 00:59:12,350 I could stop a dirty bomb attack and save thousands of lives. 683 00:59:12,974 --> 00:59:18,474 Thing is, you're not just following your bad guy targets, you're also following their metadata. 684 00:59:18,638 --> 00:59:23,390 Which is basically, all the phone numbers that they're in touch with. 685 00:59:23,558 --> 00:59:29,806 Let's say your target is a shady Iranian banker operating out of Beirut. 686 00:59:29,974 --> 00:59:34,974 Okay, so, you're watching his stuff, but you're also watching all the people that he talks to. 687 00:59:35,138 --> 00:59:40,138 Including, you know, his cousin who's just some dentist living in Buffalo. 688 00:59:40,306 --> 00:59:43,638 And then you've gotta watch all of that guy's contacts. 689 00:59:43,806 --> 00:59:48,766 And by the time you go a third hop out from the original target, you're watching this bartender 690 00:59:48,930 --> 00:59:52,266 chat with her mother about Botox. 691 00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:56,766 'Cause three hops from anyone with, say, 40 contacts... 692 00:59:56,930 --> 01:00:00,598 you're looking at a list of 2.5 million people. 693 01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:08,682 And there's that moment when you're sitting there and the scale of it hits you. 694 01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:13,098 The NSA is really tracking every cell phone in the world. 695 01:00:13,266 --> 01:00:17,598 No matter who you are, every day of your life, you're sitting in a database 696 01:00:17,766 --> 01:00:20,850 just ready to be looked at. 697 01:00:21,014 --> 01:00:23,182 I AGREE TO THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND THE PRIVACY POLICY 698 01:00:31,350 --> 01:00:35,474 Not just terrorists or countries or corporations. 699 01:00:35,638 --> 01:00:37,430 But you. 700 01:00:45,598 --> 01:00:47,974 Was Lindsay with you in Japan? 701 01:00:49,390 --> 01:00:52,722 Japan was difficult for us. 702 01:00:55,682 --> 01:00:58,890 I guess you couldn't talk about your work. -No. 703 01:01:01,222 --> 01:01:04,098 There was this one night, uh, 704 01:01:04,266 --> 01:01:08,890 towards the end, we were supposed to go climb Mt. Fuji the next day. 705 01:01:19,722 --> 01:01:24,474 Wow. Are you gonna post that on Twitter? -No. They're just for me. 706 01:01:25,558 --> 01:01:30,430 What do you think? -You should delete those. 707 01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:33,722 It's not quite the artistic critique I was going for. 708 01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:38,098 I'm sorry, you just... you can't have stuff like that on your hard drive. 709 01:01:38,266 --> 01:01:42,306 Yes I can. -Can you just please, I'm asking you, can you delete them? 710 01:01:43,138 --> 01:01:46,306 Russian hackers again? -No. 711 01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:49,598 Is it us? 712 01:01:52,306 --> 01:01:55,850 It's classified. -Am I a target? 713 01:01:56,014 --> 01:02:00,722 Of course not. -Clearly someone is looking at my nude portraits. 714 01:02:01,182 --> 01:02:05,306 Okay, I shouldn't have brought it up. Alright, it's skews of national security. 715 01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:12,974 Well, I am flattered that my boobs are considered an issue of national security, but you're gonna have to do a lot better than that. 716 01:02:13,138 --> 01:02:16,222 I'd rather not talk about stuff that could land us in jail. 717 01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:19,722 So that's what the band-aids are about then? And your camera phobia. 718 01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:23,598 Because of work? Are they watching us? 719 01:02:23,766 --> 01:02:27,390 Who are they watching? -No one, okay. Let's just stop talking. 720 01:02:28,682 --> 01:02:34,890 Let's go to bed, and wake up in the morning, go climb this fucking mountain. Okay? 721 01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:39,474 Of course we're not gonna talk about it. -What is that supposed to mean? 722 01:02:39,638 --> 01:02:42,514 It means that we don't talk about anything anymore. 723 01:02:42,682 --> 01:02:45,682 You work 12 hour days, you come home depressed. 724 01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:48,350 You play fucking video games and then you fall asleep. 725 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:52,890 Yeah, I'm tired because I have a job, that's what pays for this apartment in the most expensive city in the world. 726 01:02:53,058 --> 01:02:56,850 Which you asked me to come to, knowing that I did not have a work visa. 727 01:02:57,014 --> 01:03:02,058 Okay, what if you had one, would you really give up your beautiful life of eating and sleeping and going out all the time? 728 01:03:02,222 --> 01:03:05,014 You think you'd really want a career? -A career like yours? 729 01:03:05,182 --> 01:03:07,430 Where I'm miserable all the time? No. 730 01:03:07,598 --> 01:03:10,890 That's called responsibility. 731 01:03:11,058 --> 01:03:12,722 Fuck this. 732 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:16,974 You know what? You have no idea what it's like to be accountable for other people's lives 733 01:03:17,138 --> 01:03:22,182 Because you live in a fairytale land where just, there are no consequences and no one ever gets hurt. 734 01:03:25,850 --> 01:03:30,182 No. No you, you don't get hurt. 735 01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:35,098 I get fucking crushed. -Fucking bullshit, I've done nothing to you. 736 01:03:35,266 --> 01:03:37,598 That's exactly right, you've done nothing! 737 01:03:37,766 --> 01:03:40,722 You don't hang out with me. You don't laugh with me. 738 01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:43,390 You don't even fucking touch me anymore. 739 01:03:45,474 --> 01:03:48,222 Sorry. -Stop! No! 740 01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:08,474 We never made it to Mount Fuji. Lindsay left pretty soon after that. 741 01:04:11,222 --> 01:04:16,722 I was very lonely there. After three months, I left too, I went back to Maryland. 742 01:04:44,598 --> 01:04:49,182 I promised her I'd change, and we moved back in together. 743 01:04:49,350 --> 01:04:53,850 Make sure your knees stay bent, and then you can fully extend once you feel stable. Ready? 744 01:04:54,014 --> 01:04:58,890 1, 2, 3. All the way up. And you wanna clench between your knees. 745 01:04:59,058 --> 01:05:02,514 It'll burn, but it's a good burn. Perfect. 746 01:05:02,682 --> 01:05:04,766 Twirl around. 747 01:05:05,766 --> 01:05:08,182 Perfect! Oh my god, I'm so proud of you! 748 01:05:08,350 --> 01:05:13,474 When you're really happy, there's a large part of you that just wants to stay happy. 749 01:05:17,558 --> 01:05:21,514 You start to think: What can be more important than this? 750 01:05:21,682 --> 01:05:26,182 What? Oh my god, it's so beautiful. 751 01:05:27,558 --> 01:05:31,474 You know, lots of people cruise happily through life. 752 01:05:32,974 --> 01:05:35,474 Why can't I? 753 01:05:35,638 --> 01:05:38,558 A MAN'S USEFULNESS DEPENDS UPON HIS LIVING UP TO HIS IDEALS 754 01:05:43,682 --> 01:05:45,890 I went back to work for the CIA. 755 01:05:47,014 --> 01:05:50,514 My official title was solutions consultant. 756 01:05:50,682 --> 01:05:54,058 Basically I was hawking overpriced hardware for a living. 757 01:05:54,222 --> 01:05:58,806 But I thought you'd resigned. -It was all contract work after Geneva. 758 01:05:58,974 --> 01:06:05,806 You know, it's Booz Allen Hamilton or Dell in partnership with CIA, or NSA, DIA. 759 01:06:06,850 --> 01:06:10,974 It's the intelligence community's revolving door. 760 01:06:12,222 --> 01:06:15,138 How was it, being back in the States? 761 01:06:15,306 --> 01:06:17,014 It was, uh... 762 01:06:17,182 --> 01:06:19,722 It was really good to be home. 763 01:06:20,806 --> 01:06:24,682 But Maryland was where things started to turn for me. 764 01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:32,390 Every time I felt like I was finally letting go of all the anxiety and all the questions that used to keep me up at night, 765 01:06:32,558 --> 01:06:37,182 I'd learn something else and I just couldn't ignore it. 766 01:06:37,350 --> 01:06:43,974 Like, there were these three high-level officials at the NSA. Bill Binney, Ed Loomis and Kirk Wiebe. 767 01:06:44,138 --> 01:06:47,766 They'd been filing complaints about abuses and overreach for years. 768 01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:52,138 That's all they did, they just filed complaints. 769 01:06:52,306 --> 01:06:55,222 And the FBI raided their homes. 770 01:06:55,390 --> 01:06:58,182 And then there was Thomas Drake. Like the other three guys, 771 01:06:58,350 --> 01:07:01,390 Drake was trying to change things from the inside. 772 01:07:01,558 --> 01:07:04,182 But when nothing worked, he did go to the press. 773 01:07:04,350 --> 01:07:09,390 So they hit him with espionage act and we were shocked. The whole intel community. 774 01:07:09,558 --> 01:07:12,890 Why do you think you were charged? -To send a chilling message. 775 01:07:13,058 --> 01:07:16,722 To whom? -To other whistleblowers. To others in the government. 776 01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:21,390 No to speak out. Do not tell truth to power. 777 01:07:21,558 --> 01:07:23,638 We'll hammer you. 778 01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:29,806 There's a new program being developed at the NSA's ops center on Oahu. 779 01:07:30,930 --> 01:07:34,558 You'd be going up against Chinese cyber divisions. 780 01:07:35,974 --> 01:07:37,974 You interested? 781 01:07:39,558 --> 01:07:41,930 Won't be the vast sums of money you're making now, 782 01:07:42,098 --> 01:07:46,890 but you'll be performing a critical service for your country, I know that's important to you. 783 01:07:47,058 --> 01:07:50,474 You mean service like in Geneva? -That was a mistake. 784 01:07:50,638 --> 01:07:53,722 Shouldn't have pushed you into that. -You didn't push me into it. 785 01:07:53,890 --> 01:07:57,806 I asked for exposure to field ops, you gave it to me. I don't hold that against you. 786 01:07:59,058 --> 01:08:02,014 Is there something you do hold against me? 787 01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:08,974 You didn't tell me we were running a Dragnet on the whole world, Corbin. 788 01:08:32,974 --> 01:08:35,430 Great shooting, Ed. -Thank you. 789 01:08:36,266 --> 01:08:38,098 That's terrific. 790 01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:41,474 So, one thing in the Army I was good at. 791 01:08:46,638 --> 01:08:51,182 You ever think, Ed, since the Second World War, it's been 60 years, 792 01:08:51,350 --> 01:08:54,350 and still no WW3. 793 01:08:54,514 --> 01:08:59,974 Why? Because we use our power, generally, for the good of the world. 794 01:09:01,014 --> 01:09:03,806 For prosperity. Order. 795 01:09:03,974 --> 01:09:07,850 How can we defend ourselves against nuclear war, terror attacks, 796 01:09:08,014 --> 01:09:13,430 cyber attacks without a centralized intel factory working around the world night and day? 797 01:09:13,598 --> 01:09:17,058 So we should catalog billions of people's lives? 798 01:09:17,222 --> 01:09:20,638 Most people already catalog their lives with public consumption. 799 01:09:20,806 --> 01:09:26,098 Well, they catalog part of their lives, and they do it by choice. We're not giving them the choice. We're just taking everything. 800 01:09:26,266 --> 01:09:30,682 Most Americans don't want freedom. They want security. 801 01:09:30,850 --> 01:09:34,598 It's a simple bargain, if... Good girl. Good girl. 802 01:09:34,766 --> 01:09:38,558 If you want to play with all the new toys and be safe 803 01:09:38,722 --> 01:09:41,514 you pay the price of admission. 804 01:09:41,682 --> 01:09:46,222 But the people, they don't even know they've made that bargain. 805 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:49,430 Where's the battlefield, soldier? 806 01:09:50,558 --> 01:09:53,766 Everywhere. -What's the first rule of battle? 807 01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:56,558 Never reveal your position. 808 01:09:56,722 --> 01:10:01,766 And if one unauthorized person knew? If Congress knew? 809 01:10:01,930 --> 01:10:07,182 So would the enemy. -That, Mr. Snowden, is the state of the world. 810 01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:11,390 Secrecy is security, and security is victory. 811 01:10:19,306 --> 01:10:20,890 Thank you, sir. 812 01:10:22,306 --> 01:10:24,638 Someone I want you to meet. 813 01:10:25,514 --> 01:10:29,638 Mr. Lowell. -Jim. How are you? 814 01:10:29,806 --> 01:10:33,014 Dorian. Allan. Welcome to the U.S. 815 01:10:33,182 --> 01:10:36,514 How'd you make out today, Corbin? -Aw, very mediocre. 816 01:10:36,682 --> 01:10:38,638 Nothing like Ed here. 817 01:10:38,806 --> 01:10:43,014 Apparently, the Army's training people to shoot straight -So this is Ed Snowden. 818 01:10:43,182 --> 01:10:46,430 Sir, a pleasure to meet you. -The brains behind Epic Shelter. 819 01:10:46,598 --> 01:10:48,682 It's brilliant work. -Thank you, sir. 820 01:10:48,850 --> 01:10:51,306 Yeah, I had a few questions I wanted to ask you. -Jim ... 821 01:10:51,474 --> 01:10:55,182 Will you excuse me gentlemen? Excuse me. -Nice to meet you. 822 01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:59,350 Yeah, it's proving very useful for our UAV program. 823 01:10:59,514 --> 01:11:03,222 Yes, I heard. With foreign site intel transfer. 824 01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:06,766 The transfers happen on collection now. They go straight to the Pentagon, 825 01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:10,766 Mossad, if they need it; actionable immediately now, no one sees it. 826 01:11:10,930 --> 01:11:14,930 It's improved the response time of our drone pilots by a factor of ten. 827 01:11:15,098 --> 01:11:19,474 Tell me, you worked signals intelligence in Japan too, yes? -Yes, sir. 828 01:11:19,638 --> 01:11:24,474 How'd you like it? -It was a very empowering job, sir. 829 01:11:24,638 --> 01:11:29,182 With this new job in Hawaii, there'd be even more access. 830 01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:34,058 I asked Corbin to start the conversation, but the offer is mine. 831 01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:40,430 Take your time. It's gonna take a few months to get this program on its feet. 832 01:11:40,598 --> 01:11:44,222 You'll excuse me, gentlemen? I see dinner. 833 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:48,222 Sir, for you? -Uh, no thank you. 834 01:11:54,350 --> 01:11:57,598 Epic Shelter was meant as a backup program. 835 01:11:57,766 --> 01:12:00,766 Lowell's creating this position for you, Ed. 836 01:12:00,930 --> 01:12:05,722 You'll be the first contractor outside Fort Meade working counter cyber. 837 01:12:06,682 --> 01:12:08,890 It's your ticket to the top. 838 01:12:20,014 --> 01:12:23,474 Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world? 839 01:12:23,638 --> 01:12:25,514 Yes. 840 01:12:26,558 --> 01:12:30,806 Have you used any programs you were unauthorized for? 841 01:12:36,558 --> 01:12:37,850 No. 842 01:12:50,166 --> 01:12:53,166 We're not usually supposed to submit our own work, 843 01:12:53,334 --> 01:12:56,502 but my editor said she'd make an exception. 844 01:12:56,666 --> 01:12:58,418 Pretty neat, huh? 845 01:13:03,166 --> 01:13:05,750 I could just submit an entry. 846 01:13:08,166 --> 01:13:10,958 You ignoring me on purpose or what? 847 01:13:11,126 --> 01:13:13,334 No, sorry. 848 01:13:14,582 --> 01:13:17,294 I was just thinking. -About what? 849 01:13:22,874 --> 01:13:27,750 I wonder if... talk to you about it at dinner, but let's just, wanna come sit down? 850 01:13:29,082 --> 01:13:32,002 Is everything okay? -Yeah. 851 01:13:35,210 --> 01:13:38,918 The, the uh, Deputy Director of the NSA 852 01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:42,918 he offered me a new position. 853 01:13:43,082 --> 01:13:46,750 And uh, that was a while back, and now they need an answer. 854 01:13:46,918 --> 01:13:49,710 Well, is it something you want to do? 855 01:13:50,834 --> 01:13:53,542 I'd be good at it. 856 01:13:54,582 --> 01:13:57,210 Can you tell me anything about it? 857 01:13:57,374 --> 01:14:01,958 You know, I can't. -I know. Mission first. 858 01:14:03,794 --> 01:14:06,874 Are there social perks? White House galas, maybe? 859 01:14:07,042 --> 01:14:11,082 The position is in Hawaii. 860 01:14:18,918 --> 01:14:22,834 We worked really hard to get where we're at. 861 01:14:23,002 --> 01:14:26,418 And you're willing to just rip it all up, aye? 862 01:14:26,582 --> 01:14:29,710 We finally have house that we love and a job that I like, 863 01:14:29,874 --> 01:14:32,794 And real friends, and we're close to our families. 864 01:14:32,958 --> 01:14:37,166 I know. I understand. And if you want to stay, then we're staying. That's it. 865 01:14:37,334 --> 01:14:40,294 Don't just say that because I wanna hear it. 866 01:14:40,458 --> 01:14:42,626 I'm not. 867 01:14:45,502 --> 01:14:49,374 I let you go once. I'm not gonna do it again. 868 01:14:55,542 --> 01:14:59,166 Shit, I'm sorry. The pasta. One second. 869 01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:14,166 You know, I actually think I came pretty close to getting it right this time. 870 01:15:14,334 --> 01:15:17,210 I'm gonna get some candles. 871 01:15:54,794 --> 01:15:57,166 Ed. Ed? 872 01:16:14,794 --> 01:16:19,210 I know Tegretol. Know it slows you down. I've seen it with my mo. 873 01:16:19,374 --> 01:16:22,294 She's taken all kinds of medications her whole life. 874 01:16:22,458 --> 01:16:25,418 Well, they work in 70% of cases. 875 01:16:27,542 --> 01:16:32,210 Ed, epilepsy is a serious condition. If you have a seizure 876 01:16:32,374 --> 01:16:36,250 driving yourself or with someone else in the car 877 01:16:36,418 --> 01:16:39,582 or you're in a place where you could fall... 878 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:44,710 This is not something to be lightly regarded. It's essential you commit yourself to this medication. 879 01:16:47,794 --> 01:16:49,458 Okay? 880 01:16:50,834 --> 01:16:52,418 Yeah. 881 01:16:57,794 --> 01:16:59,294 Oh, thank you. 882 01:17:02,780 --> 01:17:07,196 I've been thinking about what the doctor said. About less stress. 883 01:17:09,904 --> 01:17:12,652 A warmer climate could help. 884 01:17:16,612 --> 01:17:20,696 If Hawaii is something that we decide would be better for you, 885 01:17:21,944 --> 01:17:24,320 I'll go. 886 01:17:38,696 --> 01:17:39,904 HONG KONG Wednesday - June 5, 2013 887 01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:42,904 Janine, how did the White House conversation go? 888 01:17:43,072 --> 01:17:46,736 I made it quite clear that we were in posession of an authentic FISA court order. 889 01:17:47,126 --> 01:17:52,002 They wanted to see it; we refused. Now I just pray that it's actually authentic. 890 01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:59,918 Are you actually questioning that? -No one has ever seen a FISA court order. There's no precedent here. 891 01:18:00,082 --> 01:18:02,918 Our source risked his life for that document. It's real. 892 01:18:03,082 --> 01:18:08,334 Tell us, did the White House make any specific claims about national security, 893 01:18:08,502 --> 01:18:11,294 that would prevent you from publishing? 894 01:18:11,458 --> 01:18:16,458 No. I asked them repeatedly. And they had no substantive answer. 895 01:18:16,626 --> 01:18:19,874 Then there you go. What more do you want? You can go out, and know that you're safe. 896 01:18:20,042 --> 01:18:23,750 Glenn, I'd like to talk to Alan before we go any further. 897 01:18:23,918 --> 01:18:26,418 When does he land? -In six hours. 898 01:18:26,582 --> 01:18:30,874 No. Absolutely not. We're sitting ducks here, Janine. It's 1pm in New York. 899 01:18:31,042 --> 01:18:34,750 If you don't get this out in the next four hours, you'll miss the evening news on the East Coast. 900 01:18:34,918 --> 01:18:38,458 But we can post later tonight. 901 01:18:38,626 --> 01:18:41,750 I'm sorry Glenn, but Alan's our editor in chief and I... 902 01:18:41,918 --> 01:18:44,918 Bullshit, the government knows that we have these documents now. 903 01:18:45,082 --> 01:18:49,166 The CIA could barge through this door any minute and you want more time. 904 01:18:49,334 --> 01:18:52,250 Act like a fucking journalist and stop stringing us along. 905 01:18:52,418 --> 01:18:55,334 I just stood my ground with the goddamn White House. 906 01:18:55,502 --> 01:18:58,874 I've risked my career. How dare you question my commitment to this story? 907 01:18:59,042 --> 01:19:01,750 Okay, let's just keep on... -No, you're right, I am questioning it. 908 01:19:01,918 --> 01:19:04,166 This is absolutely inappropriate. 909 01:19:04,334 --> 01:19:07,374 We are publishing ourselves. You're out. 910 01:19:17,502 --> 01:19:21,002 Alright, Glenn. We'll have it ready by 4pm. 911 01:19:21,166 --> 01:19:24,458 I have to go over the story once more -Why? 912 01:19:24,626 --> 01:19:27,294 Because it still needs editing, damn you. 913 01:19:27,458 --> 01:19:30,334 All this fucking intelligence jargon is hurting our brains. 914 01:19:30,502 --> 01:19:35,666 This PRISM story is still incomprehensible. -PRISM is the second story, Janine. 915 01:19:35,834 --> 01:19:40,250 Verizon is the first story. Have it ready to post by 4pm, 5 at the latest. 916 01:19:41,374 --> 01:19:44,918 No games, or we're gone. 917 01:20:01,874 --> 01:20:06,418 'THE TUNNEL' NSA OPS. CENTER OAHU, HAWAII - 2012 918 01:20:07,834 --> 01:20:11,626 So my new job was counter-spying on the Chinese 919 01:20:11,794 --> 01:20:15,666 At the NSA regional cryptological center on Oahu. 920 01:20:18,250 --> 01:20:20,666 You mind placing your bag down there, sir? 921 01:20:21,626 --> 01:20:25,042 No personal laptops, no usb sticks, no cell phones, 922 01:20:25,210 --> 01:20:28,582 No electronic devices of any kind? -No, sir. 923 01:20:41,294 --> 01:20:42,710 Thank you. 924 01:20:46,418 --> 01:20:49,958 Snow White, is that you? 925 01:20:51,502 --> 01:20:54,418 Gabriel? -Dude, what the hell are you doing here? 926 01:20:54,582 --> 01:20:56,582 Wow, this is amazing. 927 01:20:57,418 --> 01:21:02,666 What, do you work here? -Yeah, yeah. Three years, two months and uh, five days. 928 01:21:03,834 --> 01:21:06,126 But who's counting, right? 929 01:21:06,294 --> 01:21:09,042 It's like, who knew that a secret underground world war 2 air base 930 01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:12,126 would become munchy heaven for a thousand geeks. 931 01:21:12,294 --> 01:21:15,794 So there's good pizza? -Good pizza, yeah, it's important. The elevator's slow as shit, though. 932 01:21:16,794 --> 01:21:19,374 Jesus. -It's something else, huh? 933 01:21:20,502 --> 01:21:26,126 So, what deck are you working on? -You NTOC or ROC? 934 01:21:28,918 --> 01:21:31,874 Between you and me? NTOC. 935 01:21:32,042 --> 01:21:35,250 Cool. You get to hack the hackers. You're coming up in the world. 936 01:21:45,458 --> 01:21:47,502 Fresh brains for you, Trevor. 937 01:21:47,666 --> 01:21:50,210 Trevor James, Interactive Ops, Division Chief. 938 01:21:50,374 --> 01:21:52,458 Ed Snowden. -I've been briefed. 939 01:21:52,626 --> 01:21:57,210 Next door's NTOC. Defense. That's where you'll be workin'. 940 01:21:57,374 --> 01:22:00,210 Over here we have ROC, our offense. 941 01:22:00,374 --> 01:22:04,958 Now, I move between the two. We run a tight ship here, Snowden. -Yes, sir. 942 01:22:05,126 --> 01:22:09,002 You'll be workin' with Haynes. -Patrick Haynes. Good to you have you. 943 01:22:09,166 --> 01:22:12,334 You watch out for him. The smartest guy in the building right here. 944 01:22:12,502 --> 01:22:15,250 Bro, how many languages do you speak again? 945 01:22:15,418 --> 01:22:19,374 Seven in Code, six spoken, two sign language. 946 01:22:19,542 --> 01:22:22,542 I some American Sign Language. 947 01:22:22,710 --> 01:22:24,582 That's awesome. 948 01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:29,042 Great. Another language I can't understand. -I'll check you later, Ed. 949 01:22:34,166 --> 01:22:36,042 Wait for it. 950 01:22:37,334 --> 01:22:39,626 Any moment. 951 01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:48,874 Lights over Waziristan, gentlemen. -So, what exactly do we contribute to this? 952 01:22:49,042 --> 01:22:52,334 The underside of that Reaper drone is fixed with a big ass antenna. 953 01:22:52,502 --> 01:22:55,582 Snarfing the hardware ID of anything that broadcasts. 954 01:22:55,750 --> 01:23:00,750 We, then geo locate em'. My friend Tasha here with the Air Force reins Hellfire. There she is now. 955 01:23:00,918 --> 01:23:04,210 Hey, Trev. You likin' the show? -You know it. 956 01:23:04,374 --> 01:23:07,834 We track 'em, you whack 'em. -And who did we just track? 957 01:23:08,002 --> 01:23:12,834 Not who, what. We're targeting bad guys' cell phones. Sometimes a SIM card. 958 01:23:13,002 --> 01:23:18,210 Okay. And how do we know the bad guy is in possession of the bad cell phone? 959 01:23:18,374 --> 01:23:22,918 We don't.- Of course we do. JSOC and CIA have their people in the field. 960 01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:26,250 What's the program name? 961 01:23:26,418 --> 01:23:30,710 Epic Shelter. It was originally some backup program for uh... 962 01:23:32,166 --> 01:23:36,166 Catastrophic site failure. -Yeah. How did you know that? 963 01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:43,750 I built it. -You? -Yeah, you know actually, I've been thinking about another use for Epic Shelter. 964 01:23:45,042 --> 01:23:46,710 What'd you have in mind? 965 01:23:46,874 --> 01:23:50,750 Well, I was chatting with Jim Lowell about how there were so many programs... -Deputy Director Lowell? 966 01:23:50,918 --> 01:23:57,294 Yeah, yeah. And we were saying there are so many programs nowadays, it's kind of impossible to keep track of them anymore. 967 01:23:57,458 --> 01:24:00,374 Right? So why create a centralized database? 968 01:24:00,542 --> 01:24:04,126 Ah, like an index? -Yeah, exactly. Something that updates in real time. 969 01:24:04,294 --> 01:24:07,666 We've already got Epic Shelter collecting our finished intel. 970 01:24:07,834 --> 01:24:11,126 We just need a web portal to catalog it. 971 01:24:11,294 --> 01:24:14,542 Make it searchable. -Let me think about it. 972 01:24:14,710 --> 01:24:18,918 In any case, I'd have to run it past Fort Meade. -'Course. -Did you have a name? 973 01:24:19,082 --> 01:24:22,750 Yeah, if it's not taken, I'd call it Heartbeat. 974 01:24:24,374 --> 01:24:25,918 Heartbeat. 975 01:24:26,082 --> 01:24:30,542 ... five, four, three, two, one. 976 01:24:31,126 --> 01:24:33,250 Engage target. 977 01:24:47,250 --> 01:24:50,502 You okay down there? -Yep. 978 01:24:51,794 --> 01:24:55,294 This is why I keep saying we need to hike more. 979 01:24:55,458 --> 01:24:57,710 You're right. -Hey, can you look at me? 980 01:25:00,042 --> 01:25:02,458 Come on. It's been years. 981 01:25:02,626 --> 01:25:06,042 By social media standards, you don't even exist anymore. 982 01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:11,002 Just one. Smile. Show me your teeth. 983 01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:15,874 My elusive E. Finally captured. 984 01:25:16,042 --> 01:25:18,958 So now I'm a viable boyfriend? -Yes. 985 01:25:21,082 --> 01:25:24,126 Such a shame. You used to be such a cute little model. 986 01:25:24,294 --> 01:25:27,210 Little? -Yeah. -Oh, I was little? -Wait! 987 01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:31,418 Stop. 988 01:25:32,918 --> 01:25:36,626 Oh my God. I think you've got some sun. 989 01:25:36,794 --> 01:25:41,542 I'm serious. It looks good. -Oh, that's impossible. 990 01:25:41,710 --> 01:25:46,710 Hey, um, I've been meaning to ask you, by the way, did you switch pharmacies? 991 01:25:47,834 --> 01:25:50,374 'Cause, I tried to pick up your prescription 992 01:25:50,542 --> 01:25:55,374 and I couldn't. Why did you do it? 993 01:25:57,502 --> 01:26:01,666 Uh, because I was there and thought it would be helpful. 994 01:26:13,918 --> 01:26:16,542 I stopped taking the Tegretol. 995 01:26:18,002 --> 01:26:21,874 What? When? -Couple months ago. 996 01:26:22,042 --> 01:26:26,418 And you're just now telling me? -I wanted to tell you. 997 01:26:26,582 --> 01:26:29,082 I just... I can't take that stuff. It makes me groggy. 998 01:26:29,250 --> 01:26:33,082 And I need to be sharp for work. I need to be on the ball all the time. 999 01:26:33,250 --> 01:26:36,710 What is it about this fucking job that makes it more important than your life? 1000 01:26:38,294 --> 01:26:41,374 I don't understand. -Our Government... 1001 01:26:43,458 --> 01:26:45,210 Our government, what? 1002 01:26:45,374 --> 01:26:51,166 Our government is hemorrhaging billions of of dollars every year to Chinese hackers. 1003 01:26:51,334 --> 01:26:54,794 And I've been hired to shut them down. 1004 01:26:55,834 --> 01:26:59,874 A lot of people are depending on me. 1005 01:27:00,666 --> 01:27:03,210 Moreso than anyone else? 1006 01:27:04,458 --> 01:27:05,750 Yes. 1007 01:27:08,458 --> 01:27:12,210 No, this ... this is bullshit. 1008 01:27:15,458 --> 01:27:19,834 Didn't come to Hawaii for you to heal, did we? 1009 01:27:20,750 --> 01:27:24,126 There's never going to be a less stressful job out there. 1010 01:27:24,294 --> 01:27:28,374 I feel like I'm made to do this, and if I don't do it, then 1011 01:27:28,542 --> 01:27:32,250 I don't know anybody else that can. 1012 01:27:33,294 --> 01:27:38,002 It's like I'm... I'm on a trajectory that I can't turn back from. 1013 01:27:41,374 --> 01:27:43,750 You can always turn back. 1014 01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:51,626 What I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question 1015 01:27:51,794 --> 01:27:56,374 Does the NSA collect any type of data at all 1016 01:27:56,542 --> 01:28:01,126 on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? 1017 01:28:01,294 --> 01:28:04,542 No, sir. -It does not? 1018 01:28:05,666 --> 01:28:07,750 Not wittingly. 1019 01:28:07,918 --> 01:28:12,334 There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps collect, 1020 01:28:12,502 --> 01:28:15,418 but not--not wittingly. -Oh,really? 1021 01:28:15,582 --> 01:28:19,294 Thank you. Ill have additional questions to give you in writing on that point... 1022 01:28:20,082 --> 01:28:25,666 Okay, so uh, what I wanted to show you guys is uh, this slide I ran across 1023 01:28:25,834 --> 01:28:28,626 while building this indexing program. 1024 01:28:28,794 --> 01:28:33,210 And what is this? -OKay, so this is data collection for the month of March. 1025 01:28:33,374 --> 01:28:37,374 Worldwide. E-mails and Skype calls. France. 70 million. 1026 01:28:37,542 --> 01:28:39,750 Germany. 500 million. 1027 01:28:39,918 --> 01:28:42,458 Brazil. Two billion. 1028 01:28:42,626 --> 01:28:45,042 Inside the U.S. 1029 01:28:45,210 --> 01:28:50,250 3.1 billion e-mails and calls. That's not including any of the telcom company data. 1030 01:28:50,418 --> 01:28:52,834 Okay, so what's the collection in Russia? 1031 01:28:53,002 --> 01:28:56,502 Russia is 1.5 billion. 1032 01:28:56,666 --> 01:29:01,082 Wait, so we're collecting twice as much in the U.S. as we are in Russia? -Yeah, I figured it would be a lot, but... 1033 01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:03,334 This shit is out of hand, man. 1034 01:29:04,666 --> 01:29:07,458 Wait, have you shown this to anyone else? -No, you guys are the first. 1035 01:29:07,626 --> 01:29:12,002 Yeah, you know I'd be careful about that. It could seem like you're rocking the boat. 1036 01:29:12,166 --> 01:29:16,082 Yeah, you're right. I just um, I needed to know if I was the only one that 1037 01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:18,502 thought this was crazy. 1038 01:29:18,666 --> 01:29:21,666 The fuck's going on? -Hey, Trev. -What are you doing in here? 1039 01:29:21,834 --> 01:29:25,874 It's nothing. I was just showing them this one slide, I needed some input. 1040 01:29:26,042 --> 01:29:29,126 Why the heat map? -It's my bad, Trev. 1041 01:29:29,294 --> 01:29:32,874 I made a bet with Ed about which country we were collecting the most signals from. 1042 01:29:33,042 --> 01:29:36,294 He said Iran and I said Pakistan. 1043 01:29:36,458 --> 01:29:39,250 Who won? -Ed. 1044 01:29:42,334 --> 01:29:44,626 Yeah, I'm gonna head out. I'll see you guys. 1045 01:29:44,794 --> 01:29:47,582 You're going down next time. -Yeah, okay. 1046 01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:51,958 No more bets. And I don't want anyone unauthorized in here again. 1047 01:29:52,126 --> 01:29:55,250 Especially not with Heartbeat. -You're right. It won't happen again. 1048 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,056 Happy Birthday! 1049 01:30:17,516 --> 01:30:21,388 In Vegas, looking at Afghanistan, so we're working late hours 1050 01:30:21,556 --> 01:30:24,888 This blurry object comes wandering into the strike zone. 1051 01:30:25,056 --> 01:30:29,516 We all knew that it was a kid. Poof, he's gone. 1052 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,096 Call in for clarification, report came back cold. 1053 01:30:34,264 --> 01:30:36,972 It was a dog. Okay, fine. 1054 01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:41,264 Shift's long. Day and night. 1055 01:30:41,432 --> 01:30:44,596 The same village two, three days later. 1056 01:30:44,764 --> 01:30:48,432 We see the funeral. We knew it was the kid they buried. 1057 01:30:48,596 --> 01:30:53,264 Moms and dads were wailin'. And then the order comes down, pretty clear. Hit 'em. 1058 01:30:54,224 --> 01:30:56,932 Poof. 1059 01:30:57,096 --> 01:31:00,180 And they are gone in a cloud of dust. 1060 01:31:04,224 --> 01:31:07,304 I mean all of them. The whole fucking family. 1061 01:31:07,472 --> 01:31:11,264 But the crazy thing is that you come home after work 1062 01:31:11,432 --> 01:31:15,556 kiss the wife and kids, back to work the next day. 1063 01:31:15,724 --> 01:31:20,804 Pretty soon, you know, it just all becomes routine. 1064 01:31:23,596 --> 01:31:27,016 Fuck that. You make it sound criminal, man. 1065 01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:31,016 It's war, it's a job. -I dunno know, man. 1066 01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:35,388 Think jobs can't be criminal? -No, not if you're working for the government. 1067 01:31:35,556 --> 01:31:38,516 You ever hear about the Nuremburg trials, Trev? 1068 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,680 They weren't that long ago. -Yeah. 1069 01:31:41,848 --> 01:31:44,224 And we hung the Nazi bigshots, right? 1070 01:31:44,388 --> 01:31:48,848 Yeah. Well, the bigshots were the first trial, but then the next trial 1071 01:31:49,016 --> 01:31:54,472 were just the judges, and lawyers, and police men, guards. 1072 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:59,680 Ordinary people just doing their jobs. Following orders. 1073 01:31:59,848 --> 01:32:05,848 That's where we got the Nuremberg principles, which then, the UN made into international law 1074 01:32:06,016 --> 01:32:11,304 just in case ordinary jobs become criminal again. 1075 01:32:14,180 --> 01:32:16,472 Just sayin'. 1076 01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:44,724 ...even fucking touch me... 1077 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,848 Oh my God! -Dude, you okay? 1078 01:33:04,848 --> 01:33:08,348 You okay, man? -Get away. Don't touch him. 1079 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,972 Hey, Ed, how are you? How's your health? 1080 01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:45,848 Hey, Corbin. Ah, it's... 1081 01:33:47,848 --> 01:33:50,432 It's fine. Thanks for asking. 1082 01:33:50,596 --> 01:33:54,140 It must be nerve racking, living with that condition. 1083 01:33:54,304 --> 01:33:56,972 You wouldn't know it. Look at your numbers. 1084 01:33:57,140 --> 01:34:00,848 200 Chinese IPs down in your first four months. 1085 01:34:02,972 --> 01:34:05,596 Those are uh, internal numbers. 1086 01:34:05,764 --> 01:34:09,556 Your colleague Trevor, is out of the CIA like you. 1087 01:34:09,724 --> 01:34:13,724 He's been keeping me informed of your progress. 1088 01:34:14,972 --> 01:34:19,140 It's outstanding work. Heartbeat, as well. 1089 01:34:19,304 --> 01:34:24,180 Thank you. Thanks. That means a lot. -Lowell is very pleased. 1090 01:34:24,348 --> 01:34:28,224 He sends his regards. -That's great to hear. 1091 01:34:29,056 --> 01:34:30,888 He um... 1092 01:34:34,016 --> 01:34:37,264 He doesn't know about your heat map conversations 1093 01:34:37,432 --> 01:34:41,264 or some of the ideas you've expressed to your colleagues. 1094 01:34:41,432 --> 01:34:44,764 And he's not going to. -Yeah, uh... 1095 01:34:45,972 --> 01:34:51,764 You know, Heartbeat is proving a tricky project. Collating from multiple agencies. 1096 01:34:51,932 --> 01:34:54,596 And knowing where to pull from. 1097 01:34:54,764 --> 01:34:58,972 It has helped to talk it over with colleagues. 1098 01:34:59,140 --> 01:35:04,972 I believe in you. Which is why nothing to you after the derog in Geneva. 1099 01:35:06,224 --> 01:35:09,096 And I'm very grateful you've looked out for me. 1100 01:35:09,264 --> 01:35:15,432 Or after you "omitted the truth" in your polygraph. 1101 01:35:17,432 --> 01:35:20,432 What was it you were witholding exactly? 1102 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,724 You remember that day in class you were talking to us about the FISA court? 1103 01:35:33,016 --> 01:35:36,640 You said that they approved Bush's wiretapping programs. 1104 01:35:38,180 --> 01:35:42,224 Sometimes we're restricted from telling the whole truth. 1105 01:35:43,388 --> 01:35:47,432 Doesn't give us permission to lie. -Corbin. 1106 01:35:47,596 --> 01:35:51,264 The Director of National Intelligence just lied to Congress. 1107 01:35:54,140 --> 01:35:56,016 Sorry. 1108 01:36:00,348 --> 01:36:02,140 Look at me. 1109 01:36:07,556 --> 01:36:11,388 Did you access an unauthorized program? 1110 01:36:11,556 --> 01:36:14,224 That I did not know about? 1111 01:36:20,140 --> 01:36:23,680 Yes. It was, uh... 1112 01:36:25,516 --> 01:36:30,804 It was in Geneva, it was Lindsay, I was jealous. And I'm sorry. 1113 01:36:30,972 --> 01:36:33,516 I never did it again. 1114 01:36:46,180 --> 01:36:47,556 Listen... 1115 01:36:51,224 --> 01:36:54,932 I know it's been up and down with you and Lindsay since Geneva. 1116 01:36:55,096 --> 01:36:59,848 It's tough...keep any relationship going. Few of us do. 1117 01:37:02,140 --> 01:37:08,972 So if it will give you any peace of mind, I can assure you she's not sleeping with that photographer friend of hers. 1118 01:37:10,304 --> 01:37:13,016 if that's what you're thinking. 1119 01:37:16,180 --> 01:37:21,848 I have to go to a FIVE EYES conference in Sydney in a couple o' week. I'll stop by Hawaii on the way back. 1120 01:37:23,764 --> 01:37:26,016 Okay? 1121 01:37:26,724 --> 01:37:29,264 Okay. Thank you. 1122 01:37:31,848 --> 01:37:34,056 I'll see you soon. 1123 01:37:49,264 --> 01:37:51,140 Hey Dad. 1124 01:37:52,304 --> 01:37:55,596 Did you get the e-mail I sent you with the photos? 1125 01:37:59,472 --> 01:38:02,472 I was hoping you could delete them. 1126 01:38:11,140 --> 01:38:13,348 What are you doing? 1127 01:38:34,472 --> 01:38:36,432 Sit down. 1128 01:38:42,764 --> 01:38:47,056 Your e-mail is being monitored. -So? 1129 01:38:48,304 --> 01:38:52,016 Well, it's different now. It's not passive collection. It's full tape surveillance. 1130 01:38:52,180 --> 01:38:55,472 It's your all of your e-mails, calls, texts, social media. Everything. 1131 01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:00,180 It's also possible that the house is bugged. 1132 01:39:00,348 --> 01:39:03,388 I'm not sure. -By who? 1133 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,348 By a senior officer at the CIA. 1134 01:39:08,472 --> 01:39:12,224 You in trouble? Is it the Chinese thing? 1135 01:39:12,388 --> 01:39:16,016 Look, there's things that I wish I could tell you 1136 01:39:16,180 --> 01:39:20,804 but I can't because you could get very hurt. 1137 01:39:20,972 --> 01:39:24,016 What's keeping you safe is that you don't know anything. 1138 01:39:30,596 --> 01:39:34,140 I'm sorry. I really am. I didn't want any of this for you. 1139 01:39:35,804 --> 01:39:40,180 But I know you would think I was doing the right thing. 1140 01:39:44,932 --> 01:39:51,516 So just listen to me for a sec, okay? When we go back in the house, everything has to appear normal. 1141 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,848 We're gonna act like nothing is changed. 1142 01:39:54,016 --> 01:39:58,056 But if you do notice something that's weird, you need to tell me right away. 1143 01:39:58,224 --> 01:40:02,224 And you're gonna use encrypted e-mail that I'm setting up for you. 1144 01:40:02,388 --> 01:40:06,472 I don't think I can do this. -Yes, you can. I know you can. 1145 01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:12,264 Do I even have a choice? -I'm asking you to trust me. 1146 01:40:20,348 --> 01:40:24,724 Linz, I think it'd be best if you went back to Maryland for a while. 1147 01:40:24,888 --> 01:40:28,680 Tell your parents that I'm away on a business trip. 1148 01:40:28,848 --> 01:40:33,140 And that you're homesick. -Are you going away? 1149 01:40:33,304 --> 01:40:36,016 Yes, but just for a little while. 1150 01:40:45,432 --> 01:40:49,724 No, I can't go. -Please, just until I get back? -I can't go. 1151 01:40:51,224 --> 01:40:55,680 You just said that we have to appear like nothing's changed. 1152 01:40:55,848 --> 01:40:59,804 If both of us left at the same time, wouldn't that seem suspicious? 1153 01:41:09,932 --> 01:41:12,724 I will do this for you. 1154 01:41:16,388 --> 01:41:18,932 But it is the last time. 1155 01:41:41,596 --> 01:41:45,680 We will meet in the mall, opposite the Mira Hotel, on the Monday two weeks from now. 1156 01:41:45,848 --> 01:41:49,640 I will be holding a Rubik's cube. More to follow... 1157 01:41:54,932 --> 01:41:57,016 You hear about Trevor, bro? 1158 01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:00,432 You know that op to own the Internet in Syria? 1159 01:42:00,596 --> 01:42:04,888 Yeah, Trevor and his TIO team crashed the core router. 1160 01:42:05,056 --> 01:42:08,224 The whole country has gone dark. -Jesus Christ. 1161 01:42:08,388 --> 01:42:11,304 Figure it out! -Poor bastards. 1162 01:42:13,264 --> 01:42:16,096 K, I'm gonna, uh, I gotta get to work. -Yeah, yeah, me too. 1163 01:42:17,264 --> 01:42:20,724 Oh, hey. How's Heartbeat coming? 1164 01:42:21,932 --> 01:42:25,596 It's close. It's very close. 1165 01:42:28,516 --> 01:42:31,096 Don't tell me you're involved in this too. 1166 01:42:31,264 --> 01:42:36,596 Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going through the zero day exploit codes. It's a big fucking mess, man. 1167 01:42:38,848 --> 01:42:42,140 Why did I agree to it? -Good luck. 1168 01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:11,764 Hung em like an ?? out to dry. -Yeah. 1169 01:45:12,932 --> 01:45:15,016 Trouble with the Navy? 1170 01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:19,388 One of those idiots ripped some bullshit piece of Israeli Code and jammed it down our payload. You fuckin' believe that? 1171 01:45:19,556 --> 01:45:23,388 Script kiddies? -I know, I know. I should have listened to you. Goddammit. 1172 01:45:23,556 --> 01:45:25,304 Is this it? -Here it is. 1173 01:45:25,472 --> 01:45:28,516 The Israelis must fucking take the fall for this. 1174 01:45:32,472 --> 01:45:35,724 I'm not taking the fall for this. 1175 01:45:44,388 --> 01:45:45,972 Patrick. 1176 01:45:51,056 --> 01:45:53,640 I might not see you again. 1177 01:45:55,972 --> 01:45:59,096 You gonna leave me here... 1178 01:45:59,264 --> 01:46:01,848 with Captain America? 1179 01:46:02,016 --> 01:46:03,680 Thanks a lot. 1180 01:46:05,348 --> 01:46:09,848 The NSA may come after you. 1181 01:46:11,264 --> 01:46:14,016 I don't know what you're talking about. 1182 01:46:48,388 --> 01:46:52,640 You headed home already? -Yeah. I'm not feeling so well. 1183 01:46:53,804 --> 01:46:56,388 Might not be in tomorrow either. 1184 01:46:56,556 --> 01:46:59,680 You know, Trevor's kinda busy, maybe you could let him know for me? 1185 01:46:59,848 --> 01:47:02,056 Yeah, it'd be my pleasure. 1186 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:09,516 You know, if you're uh, if you're really not feeling well, dude, maybe you should go back to the States and see your doctor. 1187 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:13,264 I think that, you know, folks would understand that. 1188 01:47:15,596 --> 01:47:17,640 Sounds like a smart thing. 1189 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,016 Take care of yourself. -Yeah, you too, bro. 1190 01:47:51,474 --> 01:47:54,018 Hey, you ever play with one of these? 1191 01:47:54,182 --> 01:47:57,142 Yeah, when I was a kid. 1192 01:47:57,310 --> 01:48:00,726 You should try it. It's hard. 1193 01:48:19,894 --> 01:48:22,974 I can't figure this out. 1194 01:48:27,518 --> 01:48:29,182 I don't know about this. 1195 01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:33,974 You gotta start with a white cross, actually, then you do the corners. 1196 01:48:34,142 --> 01:48:37,434 Ah man, well I love these things. 1197 01:48:37,602 --> 01:48:40,850 Hey, have a good weekend, man. -You too, buddy. 1198 01:49:36,088 --> 01:49:38,960 It's live. 1199 01:49:39,128 --> 01:49:41,836 WEDNESDAY, June 5, 2013 1200 01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:46,044 There's a link to the FISA court order. 1201 01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,836 Well done, Janine. I told you she was no pushover. 1202 01:49:56,004 --> 01:49:59,712 Well, it feels so goddamn good to be wrong. 1203 01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,172 NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily. 1204 01:50:06,336 --> 01:50:10,252 Breaking news tonight. Reports that through a secret court order, the Obama administration 1205 01:50:10,420 --> 01:50:13,380 is collecting the phone records of millions of Verizon customers. 1206 01:50:13,544 --> 01:50:16,460 That's been reported by The Guardian newspaper in the UK. 1207 01:50:16,628 --> 01:50:22,212 They said court order shows that all the information is going to the National Security Agency. CNN has reached out to multiple sources to confirm the story... 1208 01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:24,796 How is that for mainstream media, Glenn? 1209 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,504 They can't shut this down now, we've got four days more days of it. -They have no idea what they're in store for. 1210 01:50:29,672 --> 01:50:32,296 It's fantastic. 1211 01:50:33,460 --> 01:50:37,672 Another explosive article, has just appeared, this time in the Washington Post. 1212 01:50:37,836 --> 01:50:43,088 It's breaking news that it reveals another broad and secret U.S. government surveillance program. 1213 01:50:43,252 --> 01:50:47,296 The Washington Post and the Guardian in London reporting 1214 01:50:47,460 --> 01:50:53,588 that the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading internet companies 1215 01:50:53,752 --> 01:50:57,336 including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, AOL, 1216 01:50:57,504 --> 01:51:00,088 Skype, YouTube, and Apple. 1217 01:51:00,252 --> 01:51:04,672 The Post says they're extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents, 1218 01:51:04,836 --> 01:51:10,628 and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person's movements and contacts over time. 1219 01:51:10,796 --> 01:51:13,920 FRIDAY, June 7, 2013 1220 01:51:14,088 --> 01:51:20,836 In the abstract, you can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok, 1221 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,836 but when you actually look at the details, then I think weve struck the right balance. 1222 01:51:27,004 --> 01:51:31,712 U.S. President Barack Obama staunchly defends U.S. government programs 1223 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,336 insisting that they were conducted with broad safeguards 1224 01:51:35,504 --> 01:51:39,252 to protect against abuse. 1225 01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:44,252 He reached the conclusion that what was happening inside this really secretive agency 1226 01:51:44,420 --> 01:51:50,628 was very threatening and menacing to privacy rights, to Internet freedom, to basic political liberty. 1227 01:51:50,796 --> 01:51:55,672 Not only in the United States but all around the world. And he felt it was his duty 1228 01:51:55,836 --> 01:51:58,920 as a human being to disclose it. 1229 01:52:08,752 --> 01:52:13,336 My name is Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old. I work for Booz Allen Hamilton. 1230 01:52:13,504 --> 01:52:16,880 as an infrastructure analyst for NSA in Hawaii. 1231 01:52:29,796 --> 01:52:33,960 Well, you can't come forward against the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world 1232 01:52:34,128 --> 01:52:38,920 without expecting to have some risk. They're just such powerful adversaries. 1233 01:52:39,088 --> 01:52:45,836 No one can meaningfully oppose them. If they wanna get you, they will get you in time. 1234 01:52:46,004 --> 01:52:48,044 The kid did it. 1235 01:52:48,212 --> 01:52:54,044 ...get worse for the next generation, if they extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression. 1236 01:52:54,212 --> 01:52:58,672 Then you realize that you might willing to accept any risk 1237 01:52:58,836 --> 01:53:04,544 as long as the public is able to make their own decision about how this is applied. 1238 01:53:04,712 --> 01:53:08,172 Because, even if you haven't done anything wrong, you're being watched. 1239 01:53:10,004 --> 01:53:13,336 I had access to the entire intelligence community. 1240 01:53:13,504 --> 01:53:16,544 So if I had wanted to harm the U.S. 1241 01:53:16,712 --> 01:53:20,712 ...you could shut down the entire analyst system in an afternoon. 1242 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:27,504 But that was never my intention, and I think anybody that's making that argument 1243 01:53:27,672 --> 01:53:29,628 They have to think. 1244 01:53:29,796 --> 01:53:32,088 If they were in my position 1245 01:53:32,252 --> 01:53:35,836 Living in Hawaii, in paradise, making a ton of money, 1246 01:53:36,004 --> 01:53:40,920 what would it take, to make you leave everything behind? 1247 01:53:41,088 --> 01:53:44,796 The fear that I've had most 1248 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:49,252 in regards to the outcome for America with these disclosures 1249 01:53:49,420 --> 01:53:54,420 is that nothing will change in the coming months, and the coming years, it will just get worse. 1250 01:53:54,588 --> 01:53:58,252 And then, eventually, at some point 1251 01:53:58,420 --> 01:54:01,880 some new leader will be elected 1252 01:54:02,044 --> 01:54:06,128 who flips the switch 1253 01:54:06,296 --> 01:54:13,672 and the people won't be able to do anything by that point to oppose it. 1254 01:54:13,836 --> 01:54:18,336 And it'll be turnkey tyranny. 1255 01:54:18,504 --> 01:54:22,588 How you holdin' up? -Yeah, I'll be fine. 1256 01:54:22,752 --> 01:54:25,752 You guys have to start watching after yourselves now. 1257 01:54:27,252 --> 01:54:33,960 You know, if you have any reason to believe that you're about to 1258 01:54:34,128 --> 01:54:39,544 be raided or intercepted or breached in any way, you format and destroy all the data immediately. 1259 01:54:39,712 --> 01:54:42,504 You have the encrypted backups. 1260 01:54:42,672 --> 01:54:44,920 Now I... 1261 01:54:47,544 --> 01:54:51,960 I no longer have any access to these files, myself. You guys have them all. 1262 01:54:56,212 --> 01:55:00,544 Keep the focus on the stories. That's all that matters. 1263 01:55:00,712 --> 01:55:04,004 If you'll excuse me, it's... 1264 01:55:05,128 --> 01:55:08,296 We should all get some rest. We could use it. 1265 01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:12,588 Yeah, I should probably lay down in a soft bed, while I still have one available, right? 1266 01:55:14,252 --> 01:55:16,380 Rest well. -Thank you. 1267 01:55:18,460 --> 01:55:21,336 See you tomorrow. -Good night. 1268 01:55:50,088 --> 01:55:54,252 Can you at least tell me where you're going? 1269 01:56:17,172 --> 01:56:20,044 Listen, I know that I... -Shh. 1270 01:56:29,296 --> 01:56:32,460 MONDAY, June 10, 2013 1271 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,088 Ewen, I'm on the second floor. 1272 01:56:40,252 --> 01:56:42,420 I don't see Tibbo. 1273 01:56:44,128 --> 01:56:46,712 No, no-no, wait, I think I see him. 1274 01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:51,380 Shit. There's press swarming all over the hotel. 1275 01:56:51,544 --> 01:56:55,088 Yeah, I don't know. I'll figure it out and I'll stop them with a press conference or something. 1276 01:56:55,252 --> 01:57:01,252 Look, we really appreciate this you're one of the best lawyers in Hong Kong. 1277 01:57:01,420 --> 01:57:06,752 We're gonna take him to the UN first, then I prefer not to reveal. I understand... 1278 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:10,672 Shit, they've spotted me. You guys get going. 1279 01:57:12,420 --> 01:57:16,296 I will answer your questions in an orderly fashion. Please. 1280 01:57:16,460 --> 01:57:19,504 Did you get them? -Yeah, this is the best I could do. 1281 01:57:19,672 --> 01:57:22,712 You'll be meeting Tibbo in five minutes. 1282 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,752 On the skybridge opposite the large mall. 1283 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:33,628 I've met a lot of astonishing people in my life, but you... 1284 01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:38,544 Okay, laddie, off you go. 1285 01:57:38,712 --> 01:57:41,296 I won't let you down. 1286 01:57:41,460 --> 01:57:45,212 You'd make a shitty journalist without a camera. 1287 01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:47,836 You sure? 1288 01:57:48,004 --> 01:57:51,296 Okay. That's a pretty good idea. 1289 01:57:52,796 --> 01:57:55,044 Thanks. 1290 01:57:56,044 --> 01:57:58,504 You don't want to leave your luck behind. 1291 01:57:58,672 --> 01:58:02,628 Oh, I think I'd like you to have that. 1292 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,960 Thanks. For everything. -Thank you. 1293 01:58:31,588 --> 01:58:33,880 I have a van on the street. 1294 01:58:38,088 --> 01:58:41,672 NSA leaker Edward Snowden has now been charged formally with 1295 01:58:41,836 --> 01:58:46,420 espionage, theft and conversion of government property. 1296 01:58:46,588 --> 01:58:51,004 US officials have asked Hong Kong to detain the former contractor on provisional arrest warrant. 1297 01:58:51,172 --> 01:58:55,088 Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May. --Reportedly, on May 20th... 1298 01:58:58,172 --> 01:59:02,504 Snowden has checked out of the luxury hotel in Hong Kong where he had been holed up. 1299 01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:06,088 You might turn your eyes away. 1300 01:59:06,252 --> 01:59:10,088 The Justice Department had to go to Interpol, so that Snowden, 1301 01:59:10,252 --> 01:59:15,088 if he tried to cross a border, he could be intercepted and detained. 1302 01:59:15,252 --> 01:59:19,796 So, again the Americans are now closing in. They almost certainly know where he is. 1303 01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:25,836 They just need Hong Kong's approval to get him. -The Hong Kong government does have an extradition agreement with Washington, but the ultimate decision... 1304 01:59:27,544 --> 01:59:31,752 The big question here is: Where is he now? 1305 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:38,296 Thank you. This is Ed. Ed, Mayana. -Welcome. 1306 01:59:41,628 --> 01:59:44,920 These are good people. They won't talk. 1307 01:59:45,088 --> 01:59:48,172 I've been handling their cases for years. They're like you. -That's so nice. 1308 01:59:48,336 --> 01:59:50,296 They're stateless. -Yeah. 1309 01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:55,044 So, we're waiting on the UN application for refugee status. -Yeah. 1310 01:59:55,212 --> 01:59:59,380 Just in case you're arrested, this is where you can call me. -Yeah. 1311 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,920 Good. -Thank you so much. 1312 02:00:08,544 --> 02:00:12,212 You may not feel it, Ed, 1313 02:00:12,380 --> 02:00:15,172 but you're not alone. 1314 02:00:18,296 --> 02:00:21,836 His longtime girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, an amateur photographer 1315 02:00:22,004 --> 02:00:27,212 has not been heard from. It's believed she's in seclusion in her parents' home in Maryland 1316 02:00:27,380 --> 02:00:32,504 and has been questioned by the FBI and remains under investigation. 1317 02:00:32,672 --> 02:00:36,420 Ten days have now gone by as the world looks for Edward Snowden. 1318 02:00:36,588 --> 02:00:39,960 Rumors have surfaced that a rich supporter is hiding Snowden 1319 02:00:40,128 --> 02:00:43,796 somewhere in the Hong Kong hills in a private mansion. 1320 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:19,960 It is now confirmed that Edward Snowden has boarded a flight from Hong Kong to Moscow. 1321 02:01:20,128 --> 02:01:25,336 The State Department is very disappointed in the authorities in Hong Kong for letting Snowden go. 1322 02:01:25,504 --> 02:01:27,920 He was accompanied by a representative from WikiLeaks. 1323 02:01:28,088 --> 02:01:33,588 Snowden is trying to make his way from Russia to Cuba and then to Ecuador for political asylum. 1324 02:01:33,752 --> 02:01:37,128 Moscow airport officials say he won't be permitted to make his connected flight 1325 02:01:37,296 --> 02:01:39,752 because the U.S. government has revoked his passport. 1326 02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:44,044 The United States Secretary of State John Kerry is outraged 1327 02:01:44,212 --> 02:01:46,504 that Russia is refusing to arrest the American fugitive. 1328 02:01:46,672 --> 02:01:50,752 Now a man without a country is stranded inside the Moscow airport. 1329 02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,460 No, I'm not going to be scrambling jets 1330 02:01:53,628 --> 02:01:58,128 to get a 29-year-old hacker. 1331 02:01:59,380 --> 02:02:03,628 The president of Bolivia's plane was forced down in Austrian airspace today 1332 02:02:03,796 --> 02:02:07,796 on U.S. suspicions that Snowden may have been on board. 1333 02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:12,544 After 39 days at the airport hotel, he slept with his Russian lawyer 1334 02:02:12,712 --> 02:02:16,252 and a legal adviser from WikiLeaks, Sarah Harrison. 1335 02:02:16,420 --> 02:02:22,004 He can now enjoy all of the the sweet, sweet liberty allowed under the regime of president Vladimir Putin. 1336 02:02:22,172 --> 02:02:25,296 There is still a thing called execution. 1337 02:02:25,460 --> 02:02:28,044 Mr. Snowden actually deserves aslyum and protection around the globe 1338 02:02:28,212 --> 02:02:31,752 but he does have asylum in Russia, at least. 1339 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,420 He can engage in the debate he started. 1340 02:02:33,588 --> 02:02:36,628 And now the world now has an example that you can do the right thing. 1341 02:02:36,796 --> 02:02:40,420 You don't have to end up in a cage, one room, a prison. 1342 02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,252 After more than a year in the country under temporary asylum 1343 02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:50,628 Edward Snowden has received a three year residency permit in Russia. 1344 02:02:58,642 --> 02:03:03,014 And now, here, live from Moscow, Edward Snowden. 1345 02:03:05,058 --> 02:03:07,806 Hi, Ed. How are you doing? 1346 02:03:12,266 --> 02:03:16,806 Thank you. Uh, forgive me if I get my bearings a little bit here. 1347 02:03:16,974 --> 02:03:20,890 People always said I was kind of a robot. 1348 02:03:21,058 --> 02:03:23,014 How is it that you came to be in Russia? 1349 02:03:23,182 --> 02:03:27,850 Well, I never intended to come here, you know. My passport was revoked 1350 02:03:28,014 --> 02:03:32,182 on route to Latin America, so when people say, why are you in Russia? 1351 02:03:32,350 --> 02:03:35,806 I say: "Ask the State Department." 1352 02:03:35,974 --> 02:03:39,930 Does that mean you're willing to go back and face trial? 1353 02:03:40,098 --> 02:03:44,182 Absolutely. If it was a fair and public trial. 1354 02:03:44,350 --> 02:03:47,682 Unfortunately that's not what would happen right now 1355 02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:51,806 as long as the Espionage Act is being used against whistleblowers. 1356 02:03:53,014 --> 02:03:55,974 Do you still think it was worth it? -Yes, I do. 1357 02:03:56,142 --> 02:04:02,014 Without the information to start a public debate, we're lost. 1358 02:04:02,182 --> 02:04:08,430 You know, the people being able to question our government and hold it accountable. 1359 02:04:08,598 --> 02:04:13,430 that's the principle that the United States of America was founded on. 1360 02:04:13,598 --> 02:04:17,266 So, if we want to protect our national security 1361 02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:20,850 we should be protecting that principle. 1362 02:04:21,014 --> 02:04:26,514 What if your argument falls on deaf ears, what if our leaders don't act? 1363 02:04:26,682 --> 02:04:30,350 I believe that if nothing changes, 1364 02:04:30,514 --> 02:04:35,642 more and more people all over the world will come forward. 1365 02:04:35,806 --> 02:04:41,682 Whistleblowers and journalists, but also regular citizens. 1366 02:04:41,850 --> 02:04:45,974 And when those in power try to hide 1367 02:04:46,142 --> 02:04:51,514 by classifying everything, we will call them out on it. 1368 02:04:51,682 --> 02:04:57,806 And when they try to scare us into sacrificing our basic human rights, 1369 02:04:57,974 --> 02:05:02,306 we won't be intimidated. And we won't give up. 1370 02:05:02,474 --> 02:05:06,474 And we will not be silenced. 1371 02:05:06,642 --> 02:05:11,642 You're alone in a foreign country. You'll be extradited if you try to leave. 1372 02:05:11,806 --> 02:05:14,306 That must be hard. 1373 02:05:26,182 --> 02:05:28,766 When I left Hawaii, I lost... 1374 02:05:28,930 --> 02:05:31,222 ...everything. 1375 02:05:33,474 --> 02:05:36,350 You know, I had a stable life. 1376 02:05:38,514 --> 02:05:42,806 Stable love. Family. Future. 1377 02:05:44,182 --> 02:05:47,098 And I lost that life, but... 1378 02:05:49,182 --> 02:05:51,890 ...I've gained a new one. 1379 02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:55,642 And I'm incredibly fortunate. 1380 02:05:57,974 --> 02:06:00,430 And I think, 1381 02:06:00,598 --> 02:06:04,350 the greatest freedom that I've is the fact that I no longer have to worry about 1382 02:06:04,514 --> 02:06:09,514 what happens tomorrow, because I'm happy with what I've done today. 1383 02:06:14,250 --> 02:06:18,334 Live from the Internet, Edward Snowden. 1384 02:07:05,542 --> 02:07:08,418 As of this date, Edward Snowden resides in Moscow. 1385 02:07:08,586 --> 02:07:14,210 Lindsay Mills has moved there to join him. 1386 02:07:35,586 --> 02:07:41,126 Has your mind changed about him? Is he now more of a whistleblower than he is a hacker? 1387 02:08:18,626 --> 02:08:22,166 What is going to happen to Edward Snowden? -He's gonna die in Moscow. 1388 02:08:22,334 --> 02:08:24,750 He's not coming home. 1389 02:09:01,250 --> 02:09:03,542 Snowden, is he a traitor or a hero? 1390 02:09:03,710 --> 02:09:06,794 He stole very important information. 1391 02:09:25,626 --> 02:09:26,918 We have breaking news tonight. 1392 02:09:27,086 --> 02:09:31,374 Among the reports, work with Congress to change how the NSA collects phone records. 1393 02:09:31,542 --> 02:09:34,710 ...more transparency by the secret court 1394 02:09:34,874 --> 02:09:37,294 that regularly approves the surveillance... 1395 02:09:38,666 --> 02:09:43,586 Is it a victory for Edward Snowden? That's gonna depend on the eye of the beholder. 1396 02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:46,586 The American government was acting illegally. 1397 02:09:46,750 --> 02:09:51,086 I don't think he should be brought home without facing the music. 1398 02:09:51,250 --> 02:09:55,418 Snowden played a very important role in educating the American people 1399 02:09:55,586 --> 02:10:01,126 to the degree in which our civil liberties and our constitutional rights are being undermined. 1400 02:10:02,994 --> 02:10:09,534 Draxer Dz 1401 02:10:10,305 --> 02:10:16,160 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 126824

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.