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# All we do is hide away
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# All we do is,
All we do is hide away
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# All we do is lie in wait
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# All we do is,
All we do is lie in wait
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# I have been upside down
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# I don't wanna be
the right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise
on the ground ♪
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So later on last night,
about half-ten,
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Aisha comes into my room to tell me
that Gemma has - once again -
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been Snapchatting pictures of her
bottom to some lad in her class.
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Oh, nice
Two hours later - two hours -
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I finally managed to find her phone
and confiscate it.
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Yeah, and it probably isn't
even a lad in her class.
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It's probably some retired colonel
from East Grinstead posing as him.
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Guv, sometimes the things you say
just... just make me feel worse.
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Hashtag 'Just saying'.
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OK?
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Yeah, no, it looks worse
than it actually is.
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Exactly. Yeah, I'll get one
of those rubber bath mats.
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All right then, love. OK.
I'll be back in about 20 minutes.
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Bye.
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Right. Here we go.
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Thanks, matey.
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Come on, Mother. Tuck in.
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I don't want to be here, Les.
Change the record, love.
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I want to be somewhere safe.
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I know. I - No, she's safe here.
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Please?
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Dad, I -
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Dad!
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One more word, one more
fucking word from either of you!
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Will you calm down?!
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You did slip, didn't you, Mum?
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Of course.
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Thomas Pinion
is a lifelong alcoholic,
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who could say one thing to you,
another to me
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and another to a newspaper.
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Who will also, of course,
be paying him.
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As, indeed, he said erm, you were...
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to stay silent about your
activities with the Fenwick family.
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Except he's lying.
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His bank records confirm six sums
of £2,000 paid into his account,
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over a period of five years
from 2004.
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And what proof do you have this
has anything to do with my client?
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Er, no proof, yet.
Because they were cash.
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But obviously, if we went
through your business records
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and found any petty cash
transactions matching these sums...
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we'd be concerned.
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Look. I fully admit...
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for a few months 40 years ago,
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I associated with some people
I sincerely wish I hadn't.
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But...
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If I was the sort of person
who could've done what you allege...
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..could I really be what I am now?
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Quite a lot of people might say
it was an essential qualification.
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People make mistakes.
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That doesn't make me a murderer.
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Hm.
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What you waiting about for, lads?
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Come on, five laps, easy jog.
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Where's Curtis?
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No idea. Why?
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Come on, lads. Let's be 'aving you.
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Maybe he ain't here cos of her.
Why's that, then, mate?
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Just heard some things, innit?
Yeah? What things?
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'Bout dem bitch!
Don't you ever...
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talk about my wife, like that.
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You get me, BLUD? OK, man.
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Ever. OK, I get it, I get it!
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Whatever Curtis told you...
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..ANY of you...
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whatever he thinks he heard,
I'm telling you he got it wrong!
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You got that?
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Rob, it's half-five
and you have Mass.
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I need you to sit down.
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I need to tell you something.
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I don't need to sit down.
What is it?
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What do you need to tell me?
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The young man the police
were asking me about -
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and I promise I really don't know
anything about how he died.
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But the real reason
they were talking to me
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was because I had a connection
to him that wasn't just work.
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It was a woman.
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A young woman called Joanna.
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Who used to - I remember Joanna.
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She was a girl, not a woman.
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A young girl.
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A young person.
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Who I am ashamed to tell you now
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that I had a very, very brief
relationship with.
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So sorry, Grace.
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It was 39 years ago but...
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I can't imagine that makes it
any easier to hear now.
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As I say, it was fleeting.
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It was a few weeks at most.
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But it was a shameful thing to do.
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And all I can do now is...
is beg your forgiveness.
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What year was this?
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1976.
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We only got married the year before.
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It was a terrible mistake.
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And I am so, so sorry.
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So in June 1973...
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Slater was arrested following a
fight outside a pub in Kentish Town.
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What he get?
Bound over. Victim didn't turn up.
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The victim?
What was this? It an assault or -
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It's confusing. The arresting
officer has it down as a fight
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but it's listed as an assault
in the courts.
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Have you got the name of
the plaintiff? Yeah.
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Name of Paul Brian West.
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I spoke to his sister. West himself
died five years ago but...
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she said she didn't know anything.
Ah, OK.
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Jake?
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Slightly like pulling teeth, guv.
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I've got 50 possible names here,
hostel residents at Arlingham House
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that might have known
Elizabeth Lawes or Erskine,
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and for every single name I've got
30, 40 people in the same name,
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and they're all Duncan Morrison
or Wendy Haines or -
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Yeah, OK, OK.
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I suspect it's time we got
a picture of Jimmy into the papers.
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Sunny, will you talk to the DPA?
Yeah, no problem.
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Murray, any joy with Jo-Jo?
Nothing on the census.
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What about Greaves's phone records?
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No, all the numbers he rang from
his mobile, his landline are kosher.
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OK um, find out where the nearest
payphone is to his house,
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and see if BT will provide us
with every number rung from there
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from... When did you call
his dioceses for contact details?
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Er... Monday PM, just after lunch.
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Yeah, from Monday midday
till midnight same day.
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It's worth a try.
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Robert Greaves had a relationship
with Jimmy Sullivan's girlfriend.
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Now, if Jimmy found out, got mad...
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..went round to confront him...
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..who knows where that ended?
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Well, except maybe Jo-Jo does.
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Suze, have a look at this,
will you?
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It's his scaphoid, which is split -
post-mortem I assumed,
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except when I put the two bits
together,
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that's a hole, isn't it?
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Like something's been
driven through it.
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Something like a... nail.
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I've seen it before with
gangland punishment murders.
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'A nail hammered through the hand.'
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Very often a precursor
to other forms of torture.
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All right. Thanks.
'You're welcome.'
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If Pinion's lies
are all the police have,
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I wouldn't be too worried.
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But couple of days ago,
Gordon Fenwick...
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called me from Cyprus, threatening
to go to the police himself with...
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..with some other stuff.
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What other stuff? More lies,
detail's not really important.
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What is important is what
the police might believe.
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And he wants money? Course.
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S-So what are you gonna do?
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Your Turkish friends...
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..I might need you
to call them for me.
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I'm not talking anything stupid,
just a quiet word.
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For a man like Fenwick,
I suspect that'll be enough.
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Dad, are you sure?
That is quite a move.
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Gordon Fenwick could
get me jailed for murder,
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a murder I had absolutely nothing
to do with.
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We need him to back off.
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And fast.
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Yeah, what I wanna know
is if it's possible
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to tell me what numbers
were called from this payphone
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from midday on the 23rd
to approximately midnight.
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Brilliant. Yeah, great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think it was
probably the only fight...
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I ever got into. I-I'd had a
skinful,
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as I remember,
and I think he had as well.
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Right. Do you remember
what it was about?
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Football. I'm afraid.
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I'm a Blade. For my sins.
He was a Gooner.
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I think we'd just beaten them and
one of us must've said something.
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It all kicked off...
Stupid, just stupid, really.
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I mean, put it down
to the impetuosity of youth.
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Hopefully I've grown up a bit
since then.
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In the court documents, it has it
down as you assaulting him,
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which er... implies
that you started it.
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Well... then I expect I did.
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I mean, you know, I was drunk.
As I say. I...
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I can't really remember
an awful lot about it.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, my real name's Alan Mackay,
but everyone calls me Mackie.
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Well, thanks so much
for getting in touch.
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And just so I can be
absolutely clear,
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as well as Jimmy, I think you said
you knew Vincent Erskine as well.
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Vince? Yeah.
And Beth, his girlfriend.
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You knew Elizabeth?
'I did, aye.'
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OK, Mackie, could I come
talk to you, please?
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Er, soon as possible would be good.
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I mean, do you think it was
just a one-off or...?
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I don't know.
We didn't get that far.
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But if he could've done it once,
got away with it...
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why shouldn't there have
been others?
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Mum, I'm so sorry. I am, too.
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For you both.
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I mean,
I suppose all you can say is...
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..it was 40 years ago and...
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And what?
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What, you think that
makes it better?
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Jesus, it makes it worse!
Ellie, it's our whole lives.
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Our whole relationship with him
feels like a lie.
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Does it?
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Look, he's... He's still our dad.
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I mean, clearly he made
a terrible mistake but -
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But... But what? I can't believe
you're defending him.
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I'm not defending what he did. I'm...
I'm trying to find a way through this.
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He had sex with a child,
for God's sake!
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Caz, she wasn't a child.
She was 17.
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If he'd have been caught today,
he would go to prison.
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Do you not get that?
Of course I get that, but I...
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But what?
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What, they were different times?
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Bollocks.
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She was a kid.
She was one of his congregation.
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He was in a position of power
and he abused it.
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I'm sorry if you think
I'm overreacting.
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But I am scared.
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It makes me ask... what sort
of man is he really?
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Why are the police asking him
about this boy that was found?
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It makes me ask what else
he could've done.
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It was only her
that stayed at the hostel.
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Elizabeth? Erskine wasn't allowed to
stay cos he always got into fights.
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Elizabeth? Right. Anyway, I got
talking to him in the garden one day,
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cos at that time I was still using.
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I let him spout his racist rubbish
for a bit.
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Until he started talking about this black
lad he reckoned had some money on him.
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And he wanted to know
whether I fancied
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helping him rob the lad
that night in his room.
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And was this just him,
or was Beth there too?
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Well... She was there, like,
you know, in the background,
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but er... not actually part
of the conversation.
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And so what did you say?
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Well... I didn't say much,
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because I didn't want him
to know that er...
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that Jimmy was actually
a good friend of mine.
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You know, and obviously
I was gonna warn him.
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And did you warn him?
I went to look for him but er...
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Somebody offered me some gear.
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By the time I was straight again
it was two days later.
243
00:16:36,739 --> 00:16:38,699
And sir, did you find out
if he'd been robbed?
244
00:16:41,459 --> 00:16:43,699
No, I didn't.
245
00:16:44,579 --> 00:16:47,899
In fact, I...
I never saw Jimmy again.
246
00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:19,779
Looks just like one of our lads.
247
00:17:19,979 --> 00:17:21,419
Don't he?
248
00:17:23,099 --> 00:17:25,498
I remember when erm...
249
00:17:25,499 --> 00:17:30,458
you first suggested that we should
start up the er, football squad.
250
00:17:30,459 --> 00:17:33,298
It wasn't long after
Michael had died,
251
00:17:33,299 --> 00:17:40,219
and I always thought that it was er,
your way of finding some meaning...
252
00:17:43,099 --> 00:17:45,619
..out of HIS death.
253
00:17:47,819 --> 00:17:51,298
If you think I killed
this boy, Ray...
254
00:17:51,299 --> 00:17:53,418
just say it.
255
00:17:53,419 --> 00:17:55,299
How can I know, Lizzie?
256
00:17:56,099 --> 00:18:00,979
How could I have any idea
of what you were capable of?
257
00:18:02,739 --> 00:18:04,739
Back then.
258
00:18:09,459 --> 00:18:12,218
We stopped at the services
for some supper,
259
00:18:12,219 --> 00:18:15,138
which was very nice, and then got
back here about 11:00.
260
00:18:15,139 --> 00:18:17,098
'And what have you got on today?'
261
00:18:17,099 --> 00:18:19,778
Oh, Thursday's lunch club,
every week.
262
00:18:19,779 --> 00:18:22,058
Lunch club? Why wasn't I invited?
263
00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:24,218
Well, I'll put you down
for next week so.
264
00:18:24,219 --> 00:18:26,018
Well, I'll put you down
'Yeah. Yeah, I'll be there.'
265
00:18:26,019 --> 00:18:27,858
Ah, they're a good gang.
266
00:18:27,859 --> 00:18:30,298
'I was telling them about you,
you know, and...
267
00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:34,458
about Jimmy coming home and er,
they were very happy for me.'
268
00:18:34,459 --> 00:18:36,138
He rang her from the callbox.
269
00:18:36,139 --> 00:18:39,219
Jo-Jo. Her name's Joanna Bridges.
270
00:18:39,739 --> 00:18:41,459
We found Jo-Jo.
271
00:18:50,262 --> 00:18:53,102
Tell me how you met Jimmy Sullivan.
272
00:18:53,102 --> 00:18:55,701
I met Jimmy through the church.
273
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:58,981
Went out with him for... maybe six
months.
274
00:18:58,982 --> 00:19:02,262
Oh, this was before or after your
relationship with Father Robert?
275
00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:04,981
After.
276
00:19:04,982 --> 00:19:07,542
So when was your relationship
with Father Robert?
277
00:19:08,782 --> 00:19:11,701
Late 1975, as I remember.
278
00:19:11,702 --> 00:19:13,702
How late?
279
00:19:13,982 --> 00:19:15,941
Just before Christmas.
November, I think.
280
00:19:15,942 --> 00:19:18,261
I mean, it was just a few weeks.
281
00:19:18,262 --> 00:19:22,061
So Father Robert said to us
that he thought you were erm...
282
00:19:22,062 --> 00:19:25,421
19 or 20 when he met you.
283
00:19:25,422 --> 00:19:29,181
And so we checked your date
of birth before we came here today.
284
00:19:29,182 --> 00:19:34,182
And actually, if your affair
was in November '75...
285
00:19:36,622 --> 00:19:38,342
..actually,
that would've made you 15.
286
00:19:39,662 --> 00:19:41,862
When the 28-year-old priest
had sex with you.
287
00:19:42,742 --> 00:19:47,222
You weren't 16 till February 1976.
288
00:19:48,462 --> 00:19:51,621
Maybe it was Jimmy first
and then Robert.
289
00:19:51,622 --> 00:19:56,701
Except we have a diary,
given to Jimmy... by you.
290
00:19:56,702 --> 00:20:00,461
Erm, in which it says
'With much love, Jo-Jo.'
291
00:20:00,462 --> 00:20:02,821
In December '75.
292
00:20:02,822 --> 00:20:05,982
Which suggests that either
you did...
293
00:20:07,462 --> 00:20:10,461
..have underage sex with a priest...
294
00:20:10,462 --> 00:20:12,542
or at some point
after your birthday...
295
00:20:14,502 --> 00:20:17,061
..you were seeing both men,
It was half a lifetime ago.
296
00:20:17,062 --> 00:20:18,701
What the hell does it matter?
297
00:20:18,702 --> 00:20:21,221
It matters because we think
that Jimmy found out
298
00:20:21,222 --> 00:20:23,661
about Robert Greaves
and confronted him.
299
00:20:23,662 --> 00:20:27,462
And that altercation may have
resulted in Jimmy's death.
300
00:20:34,262 --> 00:20:36,062
And what proof have you got
of that?
301
00:20:38,542 --> 00:20:42,421
And how credible do you think
he is as a witness? JAKE: 'Very.'
302
00:20:42,422 --> 00:20:44,701
This guy knew other stuff
I thought only we knew.
303
00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:46,981
This guy knew other stuff
'What other stuff?'
304
00:20:46,982 --> 00:20:51,021
The £50 we think Jimmy borrowed from
Frank Cross, he knew all about that.
305
00:20:51,022 --> 00:20:54,101
'And, more importantly,
he knew what it was for.'
306
00:20:54,102 --> 00:20:56,861
Which was?
'To pay for an abortion.'
307
00:20:56,862 --> 00:21:00,461
Jimmy told Alan Mackay that
his girlfriend had fallen pregnant.
308
00:21:00,462 --> 00:21:03,502
And Jimmy was the father?
Why else would he pay for it?
309
00:21:03,503 --> 00:21:07,422
Cos she said he was. I'll ask
my man exactly what Jimmy told him.
310
00:21:07,422 --> 00:21:09,901
OK. It's lots to think about.
311
00:21:09,902 --> 00:21:12,501
Let's bring Elizabeth Wilton in
ASAP.
312
00:21:12,502 --> 00:21:16,301
Excellent work, Jake.
Murray, any joy with Tommy Pinion?
313
00:21:16,302 --> 00:21:21,061
He said that he'd never seen Cross
put a nail through anyone's hand
314
00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:23,581
but heard from others that he had.
315
00:21:23,582 --> 00:21:26,581
'Well, Dr Rawlins is pretty
convinced that's what it is, so...
316
00:21:26,582 --> 00:21:30,022
somebody did it.
We keep the pressure on Cross.'
317
00:21:48,222 --> 00:21:50,501
Yes, it's me.
318
00:21:50,502 --> 00:21:52,621
Why did Fenwick send those to you?
319
00:21:52,622 --> 00:21:54,941
Well, I'm guessing
he's already contacted Dad
320
00:21:54,942 --> 00:21:56,782
and Dad isn't playing ball.
321
00:21:59,222 --> 00:22:02,421
Well... the man in those pictures
is white.
322
00:22:02,422 --> 00:22:04,061
That lad in the papers was black.
323
00:22:04,062 --> 00:22:06,221
He's still nailing his hand
to a workbench, Mum.
324
00:22:06,222 --> 00:22:08,861
I'm just saying.
325
00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:10,941
There's nothing in these to suggest
326
00:22:10,942 --> 00:22:13,421
he had anything to do
with killing that lad.
327
00:22:13,422 --> 00:22:17,342
Fine. But trust me, he doesn't
want the police to see these.
328
00:22:18,262 --> 00:22:21,741
I should also say that the images
obviously depict a crime scene,
329
00:22:21,742 --> 00:22:24,261
which, as of now,
I've failed to act upon.
330
00:22:24,262 --> 00:22:26,421
So if Fenwick doesn't get
what he wants,
331
00:22:26,422 --> 00:22:29,702
and he shows his email to me
to the police, we're BOTH screwed.
332
00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:33,782
I'll pay him off. I have before.
333
00:22:36,862 --> 00:22:38,662
Fenwick? Yes.
334
00:22:40,582 --> 00:22:42,542
How many times?
335
00:22:46,182 --> 00:22:49,222
A few.
336
00:22:58,622 --> 00:23:00,622
It's the police.
337
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,902
Hey, Mum.
338
00:23:28,302 --> 00:23:32,061
Hello, my lovely son.
How completely gorgeous to see you.
339
00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:33,942
Tell me you're staying for months.
340
00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:40,181
Have you any actual proof
other than Pinion's fantasies
341
00:23:40,182 --> 00:23:43,022
that I did anything like this,
to Jimmy Sullivan?
342
00:23:44,142 --> 00:23:45,941
We have a wound on Jimmy's hand
343
00:23:45,942 --> 00:23:48,422
that's entirely consistent
with such an assault.
344
00:23:50,582 --> 00:23:53,022
But nothing connecting that to me?
345
00:23:53,702 --> 00:23:55,541
Not yet.
346
00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:58,102
But I sense we're getting closer.
Don't you?
347
00:24:01,382 --> 00:24:03,101
So we'll probably go
to Faliraki now.
348
00:24:03,102 --> 00:24:05,741
Nige's brother's got a bar there
and he said me and Belter
349
00:24:05,742 --> 00:24:08,221
can have a room for three nights
a week bar work.
350
00:24:08,222 --> 00:24:10,341
Mind you, that's if Belter
sorts out his teeth.
351
00:24:10,342 --> 00:24:13,702
His girlfriend smacked him with a table
tennis bat cos he joked about her art.
352
00:24:15,662 --> 00:24:17,861
What?
353
00:24:17,862 --> 00:24:20,582
Keep going.
Why are you smiling like that?
354
00:24:21,662 --> 00:24:23,581
Because I love you.
355
00:24:23,582 --> 00:24:26,422
Just keep talking.
Just keep telling me stuff.
356
00:24:27,502 --> 00:24:31,141
Well, anyway, he's gotta
have two implants now,
357
00:24:31,142 --> 00:24:32,941
and Nige says he should to go India.
358
00:24:32,942 --> 00:24:36,421
His dad got eight new teeth
in Delhi for less than a grand.
359
00:24:36,422 --> 00:24:38,781
His mouth doesn't shut properly
but his missus says
360
00:24:38,782 --> 00:24:41,661
keeping his mouth shut was never
a core skill anyway, so...
361
00:24:41,662 --> 00:24:43,421
"Plus ca change,"
as Proust would say.
362
00:24:43,422 --> 00:24:45,022
Do you want fried bread with this?
363
00:25:25,062 --> 00:25:27,421
Yo, Curtis, fam.
364
00:25:27,422 --> 00:25:29,222
Call me.
365
00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:37,782
Dad?
366
00:25:38,822 --> 00:25:40,742
Up here.
367
00:25:49,622 --> 00:25:51,742
I don't know what to say.
368
00:25:52,702 --> 00:25:56,461
I'd hoped that Mum didn't feel
that she had to tell you now.
369
00:25:56,462 --> 00:25:59,901
She told us cos of the wedding.
Oh, no, sweetheart, please,
370
00:25:59,902 --> 00:26:02,021
surely this doesn't affect
the wedding?
371
00:26:02,022 --> 00:26:04,662
It's a celebration of the sanctity
of marriage.
372
00:26:05,742 --> 00:26:07,542
Conducted by you.
373
00:26:10,182 --> 00:26:12,541
It was a terrible thing to do.
374
00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:15,541
I completely accept that,
but it was...
375
00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:18,901
one mistake, 40 years ago.
376
00:26:18,902 --> 00:26:21,502
In an otherwise very, very happy
marriage.
377
00:26:22,862 --> 00:26:25,661
One mistake.
378
00:26:25,662 --> 00:26:29,222
And was it? Really?
379
00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:33,221
Well, yes, of course.
380
00:26:33,222 --> 00:26:36,582
There was no-one else.
I don't mean other women, I mean...
381
00:26:38,582 --> 00:26:40,182
Th...
382
00:26:41,662 --> 00:26:43,261
This police investigation.
383
00:26:43,262 --> 00:26:46,102
Oh, my darling, no, no, please.
384
00:26:47,502 --> 00:26:51,662
Please. Don't ask me
if I killed that poor boy.
385
00:26:52,582 --> 00:26:54,541
Please.
386
00:26:54,542 --> 00:26:56,542
Don't make me answer that.
387
00:26:58,422 --> 00:27:00,502
Please.
388
00:27:04,622 --> 00:27:05,902
Yes.
389
00:27:07,182 --> 00:27:09,382
We robbed him.
390
00:27:10,022 --> 00:27:12,742
Of his £50? Yes.
391
00:27:14,862 --> 00:27:17,621
So everything that you
told us before...
392
00:27:17,622 --> 00:27:21,021
that you have no recollection
of ever having met him...
393
00:27:21,022 --> 00:27:23,061
that was a lie?
394
00:27:23,062 --> 00:27:25,102
Yes.
395
00:27:27,502 --> 00:27:29,821
I wished I could forget him.
396
00:27:29,822 --> 00:27:32,182
Every single day of my life.
397
00:27:34,782 --> 00:27:37,742
So can you tell me how Jimmy died?
398
00:27:39,022 --> 00:27:43,461
I wouldn't for one second
expect you to believe me...
399
00:27:43,462 --> 00:27:45,301
but no.
400
00:27:45,302 --> 00:27:48,501
When I left the room
with the money...
401
00:27:48,502 --> 00:27:50,622
Jimmy was fine.
402
00:27:52,902 --> 00:27:55,982
Erskine was still in there? Yes.
403
00:27:57,702 --> 00:28:00,661
And did erm,
he have any weapon with him?
404
00:28:00,662 --> 00:28:03,462
Not that I recall. OK.
405
00:28:04,462 --> 00:28:07,182
So where did you go?
Outside, to wait for him.
406
00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:11,902
And how long did he take
to come down?
407
00:28:14,262 --> 00:28:16,501
Not long. Maybe...
408
00:28:16,502 --> 00:28:19,182
30 seconds behind me. Right.
409
00:28:21,382 --> 00:28:24,061
And what did he say?
410
00:28:24,062 --> 00:28:27,062
When he came down.
He was laughing.
411
00:28:28,382 --> 00:28:31,742
Said Jimmy was a
"feisty little bastard".
412
00:28:34,742 --> 00:28:37,302
Did he have any blood on him?
I don't think so.
413
00:28:38,342 --> 00:28:40,901
He might've done. I...
414
00:28:40,902 --> 00:28:43,902
was very drunk,
so certain details...
415
00:28:45,582 --> 00:28:49,821
You... obviously thought
so little of this young man
416
00:28:49,822 --> 00:28:53,061
that you were able to rob him
in his bed.
417
00:28:53,062 --> 00:28:57,902
Yet your name and number were
written down by him in his diary.
418
00:28:59,262 --> 00:29:01,701
How did that happen?
419
00:29:01,702 --> 00:29:04,021
When I first met Jimmy,
420
00:29:04,022 --> 00:29:07,902
it was during a period when
I tried to split up with Erskine.
421
00:29:08,902 --> 00:29:12,222
Only lasted a few weeks before
he got me back, but in that time...
422
00:29:14,062 --> 00:29:16,222
..I stopped drinking, I got clean.
423
00:29:17,462 --> 00:29:19,342
And Jimmy and I got to know
each other a bit.
424
00:29:22,942 --> 00:29:25,901
And I gave him my number...
425
00:29:25,902 --> 00:29:28,262
cos I hoped...
426
00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:34,582
..just like...
427
00:29:35,702 --> 00:29:38,142
..in the few weeks
when I'd been straight...
428
00:29:41,782 --> 00:29:46,942
..that he'd carry on helping
teach me to read and write.
429
00:29:56,782 --> 00:29:59,101
Hm. Did you expect that?
430
00:29:59,102 --> 00:30:03,621
Guv? It might be nothing, but...
431
00:30:03,622 --> 00:30:05,501
I was just checking out the pub
432
00:30:05,502 --> 00:30:08,781
where Eric Slater and Paul West
were arrested - the assault? Yeah.
433
00:30:08,782 --> 00:30:11,261
Don't know if it's significant
but...
434
00:30:11,262 --> 00:30:14,222
it's a gay pub.
It has been since, well...
435
00:30:15,102 --> 00:30:16,902
..since the '60s.
436
00:30:29,648 --> 00:30:33,847
So if we forget him committing the slightly
illegal offence of threatening to kill Fenwick -
437
00:30:33,848 --> 00:30:36,847
He never said that, Bella.
Maybe the only other option
438
00:30:36,848 --> 00:30:39,767
is for him to go to the police
himself with the photos.
439
00:30:39,768 --> 00:30:43,047
If the police see those photos,
it's not gonna be good for him.
440
00:30:43,048 --> 00:30:44,927
Probably not, no.
441
00:30:44,928 --> 00:30:47,407
So what's the minimum term
for murder?
442
00:30:47,408 --> 00:30:49,087
A mandatory life sentence.
443
00:30:49,088 --> 00:30:52,647
In a case like this,
he'd serve at least 15 years.
444
00:30:52,648 --> 00:30:55,807
So he'd not get out
until he was in his 80s?
445
00:30:55,808 --> 00:30:57,487
If in fact he...
446
00:30:57,488 --> 00:30:59,567
In fact, he might not even
make it that far.
447
00:30:59,568 --> 00:31:02,888
It would effectively widow Mum.
Except, what if he did it?
448
00:31:03,888 --> 00:31:06,967
Because to me, never mind
that it was 40 years ago,
449
00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:09,727
or who or what he is now,
or that he's our dad,
450
00:31:09,728 --> 00:31:13,528
if he did it...
he has to be punished.
451
00:31:15,568 --> 00:31:17,528
Doesn't he?
452
00:31:18,248 --> 00:31:20,288
All right?
453
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,808
30.
454
00:31:29,168 --> 00:31:30,888
Thanks.
455
00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:48,848
Curtis? Curtis?
456
00:31:49,928 --> 00:31:52,088
Where you going, mate? Home.
457
00:31:53,008 --> 00:31:55,847
Really? I thought you were
smarter than that.
458
00:31:55,848 --> 00:31:58,207
Actually missing an exam?
459
00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:02,087
So you're gonna throw away
three years of hard work, are you?
460
00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:05,047
Just like that? If you think
it'll really piss her off, yeah.
461
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:08,487
Sorry, are you talking about the
woman who took you into our house?
462
00:32:08,488 --> 00:32:10,207
Fed you. Treated you like her son.
463
00:32:10,208 --> 00:32:13,487
I've already got one fucked-up mum!
I don't need another.
464
00:32:13,488 --> 00:32:15,208
You little shit!
465
00:32:20,008 --> 00:32:22,087
Curtis?
466
00:32:22,088 --> 00:32:23,928
I'm sorry, Curtis. I...
467
00:32:25,168 --> 00:32:28,007
I'm sorry.
468
00:32:28,008 --> 00:32:30,487
Elizabeth Wilton, you've been
charged with assault
469
00:32:30,488 --> 00:32:34,927
and the intent to rob, under
Section Eight of the Theft Act 1968.
470
00:32:34,928 --> 00:32:37,287
You do not have to say anything
but it may harm your defence
471
00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:40,167
if you do not mention now
anything you later rely on in court.
472
00:32:40,168 --> 00:32:42,847
Anything you do say may be
given in evidence.
473
00:32:42,848 --> 00:32:44,448
Do you understand the charge?
474
00:32:46,648 --> 00:32:51,287
Yes. I remember the assault.
475
00:32:51,288 --> 00:32:54,327
He was devastated by it.
476
00:32:54,328 --> 00:32:57,407
But it was an assault,
not a fight, yeah?
477
00:32:57,408 --> 00:33:00,207
Eric Slater attacked your brother?
Yes.
478
00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:03,208
Will you tell me why?
479
00:33:04,328 --> 00:33:06,328
Because of where he was drinking.
480
00:33:07,488 --> 00:33:10,047
Because of what he was.
He was gay?
481
00:33:10,048 --> 00:33:12,088
Yes.
482
00:33:13,008 --> 00:33:15,167
Do you know why he didn't
turn up at court?
483
00:33:15,168 --> 00:33:18,648
Do you know why he didn't
Because if it had come out...
484
00:33:21,848 --> 00:33:26,047
The idea that being gay
was such a shameful thing...
485
00:33:26,048 --> 00:33:29,088
I'm not sure many people
understand that now but...
486
00:33:30,688 --> 00:33:32,527
..he'd have lost his job.
487
00:33:32,528 --> 00:33:36,007
Most people thought that
what he was was disgusting,
488
00:33:36,008 --> 00:33:40,007
and let me tell you,
he was convinced...
489
00:33:40,008 --> 00:33:42,728
that if that police officer
hadn't been passing...
490
00:33:45,168 --> 00:33:48,528
..Eric Slater would've
beaten him to death.
491
00:33:53,728 --> 00:33:57,087
So Eric Slater...
492
00:33:57,088 --> 00:34:00,647
violently assaults a gay man...
493
00:34:00,648 --> 00:34:02,367
a year or so before
Jimmy was killed.
494
00:34:02,368 --> 00:34:04,927
According to her.
Yes, according to her.
495
00:34:04,928 --> 00:34:06,807
Cos there's nothing
absolutely nothing
496
00:34:06,808 --> 00:34:09,727
that we've learnt about Jimmy
that suggests he was gay.
497
00:34:09,728 --> 00:34:14,128
Now, if we're saying that his murder was
some sort of homophobia-motivated thing...
498
00:34:17,488 --> 00:34:19,647
Look, you'd better call the girls.
499
00:34:19,648 --> 00:34:23,088
We need to talk to Slater again.
500
00:34:30,168 --> 00:34:32,007
Forget her, man.
501
00:34:32,008 --> 00:34:33,968
I mean,
what does she think you are?
502
00:34:34,648 --> 00:34:36,928
Some sorta tame little coconut?
503
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:45,367
That...
504
00:34:45,368 --> 00:34:47,847
ain't you, fam.
505
00:34:47,848 --> 00:34:50,887
It's what she wants you to be.
506
00:34:50,888 --> 00:34:53,088
You should chuck it out, man.
507
00:34:55,248 --> 00:34:56,768
I ain't no coconut, man.
508
00:36:21,528 --> 00:36:23,488
Thanks, mate. Cheers.
509
00:36:24,488 --> 00:36:28,247
Mr Slater? Sorry to disturb you.
You're obviously busy.
510
00:36:28,248 --> 00:36:31,248
Is your father around? Just need
to have another quick chat.
511
00:36:32,768 --> 00:36:34,968
Like a bad penny, you lot.
512
00:36:42,208 --> 00:36:44,847
I don't care what he told his
sister. That's not what happened.
513
00:36:44,848 --> 00:36:47,167
Right, so this wasn't
an unprovoked attack?
514
00:36:47,168 --> 00:36:49,367
Yeah, it's what I said it was.
515
00:36:49,368 --> 00:36:52,968
So... you've never had
any problems with gay men?
516
00:36:54,728 --> 00:36:56,407
No.
517
00:36:56,408 --> 00:37:00,607
His sister told us that you were
waiting for him outside.
518
00:37:00,608 --> 00:37:03,967
No, I was drinking IN the pub.
You knew it was a gay bar?
519
00:37:03,968 --> 00:37:05,488
No idea.
520
00:37:06,648 --> 00:37:11,847
Right, so you didn't notice that it was an
entirely male clientele when you went in?
521
00:37:11,848 --> 00:37:14,927
I've absolutely no idea
if I did or I didn't.
522
00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:18,727
This was the '70s. Most pubs were
pretty exclusively full of men.
523
00:37:18,728 --> 00:37:21,687
Why do you think he told his sister
that you were outside?
524
00:37:21,688 --> 00:37:24,727
I don't know. You know, as I say...
525
00:37:24,728 --> 00:37:27,567
he was fairly drunk as well.
Maybe he just got it wrong,
526
00:37:27,568 --> 00:37:29,567
or she's mistaking this fight
for another,
527
00:37:29,568 --> 00:37:31,888
or she's remembered it wrongly.
I don't know.
528
00:37:32,808 --> 00:37:34,447
Think back 40 years,
529
00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:36,927
think of something significant
that happened to you.
530
00:37:36,928 --> 00:37:39,607
How much detail
can you remember now?
531
00:37:39,608 --> 00:37:41,567
It... It-It's a lifetime ago.
532
00:37:41,568 --> 00:37:43,608
She's remembered it wrong.
533
00:37:46,688 --> 00:37:50,327
Did you ever wonder whether
Jimmy Sullivan was gay?
534
00:37:50,328 --> 00:37:51,847
Wh...
535
00:37:51,848 --> 00:37:54,807
Jimmy? Wh-Why would I
have thought that?
536
00:37:54,808 --> 00:37:57,287
The last time you were here,
537
00:37:57,288 --> 00:37:59,248
we were talking about
his girlfriend.
538
00:38:00,648 --> 00:38:02,927
We didn't mention his girlfriend.
539
00:38:02,928 --> 00:38:06,247
Nor did you.
Jo-Jo. We talked about her.
540
00:38:06,248 --> 00:38:08,288
Only in connection
with Robert Greaves.
541
00:38:09,368 --> 00:38:11,247
Yeah.
542
00:38:11,248 --> 00:38:14,487
Yeah, well,
I assumed you already knew
543
00:38:14,488 --> 00:38:16,767
that she and Jimmy had had a thing.
544
00:38:16,768 --> 00:38:18,808
Why would you have assumed that?
545
00:38:19,808 --> 00:38:21,807
Why would you have not mentioned
546
00:38:21,808 --> 00:38:24,608
what was clearly a very important
piece of information?
547
00:38:25,888 --> 00:38:30,088
Unless you were trying to steer
our focus towards Robert Greaves.
548
00:38:33,888 --> 00:38:35,927
I don't know.
549
00:38:35,928 --> 00:38:40,287
I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said,
this is all ancient history.
550
00:38:40,288 --> 00:38:42,727
I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said,
I forget stuff. But er...
551
00:38:42,728 --> 00:38:45,327
please, trust me...
552
00:38:45,328 --> 00:38:48,168
you're way... way off being here.
553
00:38:53,128 --> 00:38:55,527
So? What do you think?
554
00:38:55,528 --> 00:38:57,607
I believed him.
555
00:38:57,608 --> 00:38:59,568
Yeah, me too.
556
00:38:59,848 --> 00:39:02,888
This case is like trying to...
grab hold of fog.
557
00:39:04,968 --> 00:39:08,087
I don't know, maybe you were right.
Maybe it is all just too long ago.
558
00:39:08,088 --> 00:39:10,247
No -
Cos this feels slightly insane.
559
00:39:10,248 --> 00:39:12,047
Trying to find some sort
of truth in that?
560
00:39:12,048 --> 00:39:14,008
In people's utterly fucked memories.
561
00:39:15,888 --> 00:39:17,848
We'll get there, guv.
562
00:39:25,448 --> 00:39:28,167
Dad?
563
00:39:28,168 --> 00:39:30,967
All right? Yeah, fine. Y-You OK?
564
00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:33,888
Yeah. Fine.
565
00:39:35,168 --> 00:39:38,848
Come on, then, dopey.
Let's get this party started.
566
00:39:53,648 --> 00:39:56,168
I know it's only small, but...
567
00:39:58,528 --> 00:40:00,688
Oh, it's lovely. Thank you.
568
00:40:02,408 --> 00:40:04,248
Just what I need.
569
00:40:07,088 --> 00:40:10,527
I just... Erm... You absolutely
don't need to tell me anything,
570
00:40:10,528 --> 00:40:13,607
anything at all, but I just...
571
00:40:13,608 --> 00:40:17,847
I want you to know that if you did
want someone to talk to...
572
00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:19,887
Thank you.
573
00:40:19,888 --> 00:40:21,728
I might just take you up on that
some time.
574
00:40:24,768 --> 00:40:28,047
Well... I'll let you get settled in.
575
00:40:28,048 --> 00:40:30,608
Oh erm, there's one bit
of good news.
576
00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:34,207
The police have found
some CCTV footage
577
00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:38,367
of someone entering the community
hall at the time of the burglary.
578
00:40:38,368 --> 00:40:41,247
They reckon they've got a pretty
good screen grab of his face.
579
00:40:41,248 --> 00:40:43,167
They've asked me
to go down there tomorrow,
580
00:40:43,168 --> 00:40:44,888
see if I recognise him
from the estate.
581
00:40:46,728 --> 00:40:50,208
Which is good, isn't it?
Yes. Yes.
582
00:40:57,288 --> 00:40:58,967
It's Andy!
583
00:40:58,968 --> 00:41:00,607
Let me introduce you
to Gary Stevens.
584
00:41:00,608 --> 00:41:02,847
Gary was my boss at Andersons.
585
00:41:02,848 --> 00:41:06,447
He was the only man in the whole
building who had two secretaries.
586
00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:08,887
One for each knee.
587
00:41:08,888 --> 00:41:11,128
Get yourselves a drink, won't you?
588
00:41:15,288 --> 00:41:17,567
How are you both keeping?
Are you well?
589
00:41:17,568 --> 00:41:20,088
Nice to see you...
590
00:41:20,968 --> 00:41:23,767
How about a rose, Mum? Hmm?
591
00:41:23,768 --> 00:41:26,047
Half a glass won't do you no harm.
592
00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:28,008
Why are we celebrating?
593
00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:32,808
It's your... It's your
45th wedding anniversary, Mum.
594
00:41:33,808 --> 00:41:36,768
No, I know that.
But why are we celebrating?
595
00:42:14,048 --> 00:42:17,127
In conclusion,
let me just say that...
596
00:42:17,128 --> 00:42:20,567
that a marriage,
it's a bit like a house.
597
00:42:20,568 --> 00:42:24,367
You don't just build it
and let it look after itself.
598
00:42:24,368 --> 00:42:28,047
It needs constant maintenance.
599
00:42:28,048 --> 00:42:30,367
Doesn't it, sweetheart?
600
00:42:30,368 --> 00:42:34,127
And yes, maybe her plumbing's
not all it once was...
601
00:42:34,128 --> 00:42:37,167
..and my guttering,
that could do with a good jet-hose.
602
00:42:37,168 --> 00:42:41,247
But the foundations are rock-solid.
603
00:42:41,248 --> 00:42:45,287
So if you will, raise your glasses
to my beloved and I.
604
00:42:45,288 --> 00:42:49,687
Here's to another 45 years!
605
00:42:49,688 --> 00:42:51,767
45 years! Cheers!
606
00:42:51,768 --> 00:42:53,887
ALL SINGING: # Congratulations
607
00:42:53,888 --> 00:42:56,567
# And celebrations
608
00:42:56,568 --> 00:43:00,888
# When I tell everyone
that you're in love with me
609
00:43:01,728 --> 00:43:04,567
# Congratulations
610
00:43:04,568 --> 00:43:06,927
# And jubilations
611
00:43:06,928 --> 00:43:10,967
# I want the world to know
I'm happy as can be...
612
00:43:10,968 --> 00:43:12,968
How are you feeling?
613
00:43:19,488 --> 00:43:21,248
Mum!
614
00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,767
Mum!
615
00:43:25,768 --> 00:43:27,768
Mum...
616
00:43:28,088 --> 00:43:31,128
Maybe felt I'd...
I'd already put so much in
617
00:43:33,128 --> 00:43:35,487
to our new life here, with you boys
618
00:43:35,488 --> 00:43:39,487
and finding this lovely house
and making all our new friends.
619
00:43:39,488 --> 00:43:41,207
I didn't want to give it all up.
620
00:43:41,208 --> 00:43:43,567
Mum. I don't know what you're
talking about.
621
00:43:43,568 --> 00:43:45,807
Let's get you in...
Then he had his accident,
622
00:43:45,808 --> 00:43:48,448
so he wouldn't have been able
to hurt anyone anymore anyway.
623
00:43:49,728 --> 00:43:53,567
What... Sorry? I think I just
tried to bury it all, Les.
624
00:43:53,568 --> 00:43:55,447
What did you say?
You said "hurt anyone".
625
00:43:55,448 --> 00:43:57,847
What do you mean?
And now with my head the way it is
626
00:43:57,848 --> 00:44:00,047
and the police asking
all these questions,
627
00:44:00,048 --> 00:44:02,087
it's starting to swirl around
in my head.
628
00:44:02,088 --> 00:44:05,127
And the problem is, Les, I...
629
00:44:05,128 --> 00:44:08,568
I've absolutely no idea
what's real and what isn't.
630
00:44:26,328 --> 00:44:28,248
Lizzie!
631
00:44:49,128 --> 00:44:51,727
Yeah, there was stuff
he did back then.
632
00:44:51,728 --> 00:44:55,048
Rumours I'd hear,
just stuff we never talked about.
633
00:44:58,328 --> 00:45:02,207
Belle, I don't know what to do if the
police start asking me questions.
634
00:45:02,208 --> 00:45:04,528
What do I say?
635
00:45:14,088 --> 00:45:15,848
Hungry?
636
00:45:23,728 --> 00:45:26,007
Yeah. 'See you when I get back.'
637
00:45:26,008 --> 00:45:28,087
OK.
'I haven't spoken to the guv yet.'
638
00:45:28,088 --> 00:45:31,207
'Do you know when she'll be back?'
She's with me now. 'OK.' Yeah.
639
00:45:31,208 --> 00:45:33,168
'See you later.' OK, cheers.
640
00:45:34,448 --> 00:45:36,448
Call just came into the CID office.
641
00:45:40,208 --> 00:45:42,608
Looks like we've got another victim.
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