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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,583 --> 00:01:00,943 # All we do is hide away 2 00:01:02,462 --> 00:01:05,502 # All we do is, All we do is hide away 3 00:01:06,222 --> 00:01:09,062 # All we do is lie in wait 4 00:01:09,822 --> 00:01:13,102 # All we do is, All we do is lie in wait 5 00:01:14,062 --> 00:01:17,621 # I have been upside down 6 00:01:17,622 --> 00:01:21,301 # I don't wanna be the right way round 7 00:01:21,302 --> 00:01:24,862 ♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪ 8 00:01:36,023 --> 00:01:39,381 So later on last night, about half-ten, 9 00:01:39,382 --> 00:01:42,741 Aisha comes into my room to tell me that Gemma has - once again - 10 00:01:42,742 --> 00:01:45,821 been Snapchatting pictures of her bottom to some lad in her class. 11 00:01:45,822 --> 00:01:48,941 Oh, nice Two hours later - two hours - 12 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:51,741 I finally managed to find her phone and confiscate it. 13 00:01:51,742 --> 00:01:54,141 Yeah, and it probably isn't even a lad in her class. 14 00:01:54,142 --> 00:01:58,782 It's probably some retired colonel from East Grinstead posing as him. 15 00:02:00,822 --> 00:02:03,822 Guv, sometimes the things you say just... just make me feel worse. 16 00:02:03,822 --> 00:02:05,822 Hashtag 'Just saying'. 17 00:02:07,142 --> 00:02:08,662 OK? 18 00:02:23,662 --> 00:02:25,982 Yeah, no, it looks worse than it actually is. 19 00:02:26,942 --> 00:02:29,422 Exactly. Yeah, I'll get one of those rubber bath mats. 20 00:02:30,662 --> 00:02:33,661 All right then, love. OK. I'll be back in about 20 minutes. 21 00:02:33,662 --> 00:02:36,101 Bye. 22 00:02:36,102 --> 00:02:38,822 Right. Here we go. 23 00:02:40,342 --> 00:02:42,542 Thanks, matey. 24 00:02:43,902 --> 00:02:46,382 Come on, Mother. Tuck in. 25 00:02:52,822 --> 00:02:56,461 I don't want to be here, Les. Change the record, love. 26 00:02:56,462 --> 00:02:58,221 I want to be somewhere safe. 27 00:02:58,222 --> 00:03:00,701 I know. I - No, she's safe here. 28 00:03:00,702 --> 00:03:02,662 Please? 29 00:03:03,902 --> 00:03:05,182 Dad, I - 30 00:03:05,622 --> 00:03:06,861 Dad! 31 00:03:06,862 --> 00:03:10,901 One more word, one more fucking word from either of you! 32 00:03:10,902 --> 00:03:12,822 Will you calm down?! 33 00:03:32,662 --> 00:03:34,382 You did slip, didn't you, Mum? 34 00:03:37,942 --> 00:03:39,462 Of course. 35 00:03:42,822 --> 00:03:45,861 Thomas Pinion is a lifelong alcoholic, 36 00:03:45,862 --> 00:03:47,821 who could say one thing to you, another to me 37 00:03:47,822 --> 00:03:49,661 and another to a newspaper. 38 00:03:49,662 --> 00:03:53,821 Who will also, of course, be paying him. 39 00:03:53,822 --> 00:03:56,501 As, indeed, he said erm, you were... 40 00:03:56,502 --> 00:03:59,822 to stay silent about your activities with the Fenwick family. 41 00:04:00,982 --> 00:04:03,181 Except he's lying. 42 00:04:03,182 --> 00:04:09,781 His bank records confirm six sums of £2,000 paid into his account, 43 00:04:09,782 --> 00:04:13,461 over a period of five years from 2004. 44 00:04:13,462 --> 00:04:16,901 And what proof do you have this has anything to do with my client? 45 00:04:16,902 --> 00:04:20,301 Er, no proof, yet. Because they were cash. 46 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:23,461 But obviously, if we went through your business records 47 00:04:23,462 --> 00:04:27,181 and found any petty cash transactions matching these sums... 48 00:04:27,182 --> 00:04:29,181 we'd be concerned. 49 00:04:29,182 --> 00:04:32,461 Look. I fully admit... 50 00:04:32,462 --> 00:04:34,541 for a few months 40 years ago, 51 00:04:34,542 --> 00:04:38,341 I associated with some people I sincerely wish I hadn't. 52 00:04:38,342 --> 00:04:40,342 But... 53 00:04:44,062 --> 00:04:47,342 If I was the sort of person who could've done what you allege... 54 00:04:48,182 --> 00:04:52,661 ..could I really be what I am now? 55 00:04:52,662 --> 00:04:56,462 Quite a lot of people might say it was an essential qualification. 56 00:04:58,342 --> 00:05:00,582 People make mistakes. 57 00:05:02,542 --> 00:05:05,262 That doesn't make me a murderer. 58 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:07,582 Hm. 59 00:05:21,382 --> 00:05:23,861 What you waiting about for, lads? 60 00:05:23,862 --> 00:05:26,181 Come on, five laps, easy jog. 61 00:05:26,182 --> 00:05:28,541 Where's Curtis? 62 00:05:28,542 --> 00:05:30,501 No idea. Why? 63 00:05:30,502 --> 00:05:32,821 Come on, lads. Let's be 'aving you. 64 00:05:32,822 --> 00:05:35,741 Maybe he ain't here cos of her. Why's that, then, mate? 65 00:05:35,742 --> 00:05:38,581 Just heard some things, innit? Yeah? What things? 66 00:05:38,582 --> 00:05:41,341 'Bout dem bitch! Don't you ever... 67 00:05:41,342 --> 00:05:43,661 talk about my wife, like that. 68 00:05:43,662 --> 00:05:46,581 You get me, BLUD? OK, man. 69 00:05:46,582 --> 00:05:49,182 Ever. OK, I get it, I get it! 70 00:05:55,902 --> 00:05:58,262 Whatever Curtis told you... 71 00:05:59,142 --> 00:06:02,861 ..ANY of you... 72 00:06:02,862 --> 00:06:06,462 whatever he thinks he heard, I'm telling you he got it wrong! 73 00:06:09,782 --> 00:06:11,702 You got that? 74 00:06:23,462 --> 00:06:25,902 Rob, it's half-five and you have Mass. 75 00:06:26,782 --> 00:06:29,341 I need you to sit down. 76 00:06:29,342 --> 00:06:31,382 I need to tell you something. 77 00:06:33,302 --> 00:06:35,262 I don't need to sit down. What is it? 78 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:38,261 What do you need to tell me? 79 00:06:38,262 --> 00:06:41,581 The young man the police were asking me about - 80 00:06:41,582 --> 00:06:45,462 and I promise I really don't know anything about how he died. 81 00:06:48,502 --> 00:06:50,461 But the real reason they were talking to me 82 00:06:50,462 --> 00:06:53,581 was because I had a connection to him that wasn't just work. 83 00:06:53,582 --> 00:06:55,542 It was a woman. 84 00:06:56,702 --> 00:06:59,981 A young woman called Joanna. 85 00:06:59,982 --> 00:07:01,982 Who used to - I remember Joanna. 86 00:07:03,822 --> 00:07:06,022 She was a girl, not a woman. 87 00:07:07,502 --> 00:07:09,781 A young girl. 88 00:07:09,782 --> 00:07:12,941 A young person. 89 00:07:12,942 --> 00:07:15,781 Who I am ashamed to tell you now 90 00:07:15,782 --> 00:07:18,582 that I had a very, very brief relationship with. 91 00:07:22,742 --> 00:07:24,621 So sorry, Grace. 92 00:07:24,622 --> 00:07:26,701 It was 39 years ago but... 93 00:07:26,702 --> 00:07:29,822 I can't imagine that makes it any easier to hear now. 94 00:07:32,462 --> 00:07:35,621 As I say, it was fleeting. 95 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:37,942 It was a few weeks at most. 96 00:07:38,862 --> 00:07:41,541 But it was a shameful thing to do. 97 00:07:41,542 --> 00:07:45,022 And all I can do now is... is beg your forgiveness. 98 00:07:47,982 --> 00:07:49,782 What year was this? 99 00:07:50,862 --> 00:07:52,822 1976. 100 00:07:56,262 --> 00:07:59,102 We only got married the year before. 101 00:08:00,462 --> 00:08:02,422 It was a terrible mistake. 102 00:08:03,502 --> 00:08:05,622 And I am so, so sorry. 103 00:08:11,262 --> 00:08:14,501 So in June 1973... 104 00:08:14,502 --> 00:08:18,062 Slater was arrested following a fight outside a pub in Kentish Town. 105 00:08:18,942 --> 00:08:22,181 What he get? Bound over. Victim didn't turn up. 106 00:08:22,182 --> 00:08:25,501 The victim? What was this? It an assault or - 107 00:08:25,502 --> 00:08:28,501 It's confusing. The arresting officer has it down as a fight 108 00:08:28,502 --> 00:08:30,701 but it's listed as an assault in the courts. 109 00:08:30,702 --> 00:08:33,181 Have you got the name of the plaintiff? Yeah. 110 00:08:33,182 --> 00:08:35,221 Name of Paul Brian West. 111 00:08:35,222 --> 00:08:38,341 I spoke to his sister. West himself died five years ago but... 112 00:08:38,342 --> 00:08:40,621 she said she didn't know anything. Ah, OK. 113 00:08:40,622 --> 00:08:42,941 Jake? 114 00:08:42,942 --> 00:08:45,181 Slightly like pulling teeth, guv. 115 00:08:45,182 --> 00:08:49,181 I've got 50 possible names here, hostel residents at Arlingham House 116 00:08:49,182 --> 00:08:52,261 that might have known Elizabeth Lawes or Erskine, 117 00:08:52,262 --> 00:08:57,341 and for every single name I've got 30, 40 people in the same name, 118 00:08:57,342 --> 00:09:01,341 and they're all Duncan Morrison or Wendy Haines or - 119 00:09:01,342 --> 00:09:03,301 Yeah, OK, OK. 120 00:09:03,302 --> 00:09:07,381 I suspect it's time we got a picture of Jimmy into the papers. 121 00:09:07,382 --> 00:09:10,181 Sunny, will you talk to the DPA? Yeah, no problem. 122 00:09:10,182 --> 00:09:14,941 Murray, any joy with Jo-Jo? Nothing on the census. 123 00:09:14,942 --> 00:09:17,301 What about Greaves's phone records? 124 00:09:17,302 --> 00:09:22,141 No, all the numbers he rang from his mobile, his landline are kosher. 125 00:09:22,142 --> 00:09:26,501 OK um, find out where the nearest payphone is to his house, 126 00:09:26,502 --> 00:09:30,341 and see if BT will provide us with every number rung from there 127 00:09:30,342 --> 00:09:33,261 from... When did you call his dioceses for contact details? 128 00:09:33,262 --> 00:09:35,861 Er... Monday PM, just after lunch. 129 00:09:35,862 --> 00:09:39,421 Yeah, from Monday midday till midnight same day. 130 00:09:39,422 --> 00:09:41,382 It's worth a try. 131 00:09:43,262 --> 00:09:47,981 Robert Greaves had a relationship with Jimmy Sullivan's girlfriend. 132 00:09:47,982 --> 00:09:50,142 Now, if Jimmy found out, got mad... 133 00:09:50,902 --> 00:09:52,822 ..went round to confront him... 134 00:09:53,702 --> 00:09:55,421 ..who knows where that ended? 135 00:09:55,422 --> 00:09:58,942 Well, except maybe Jo-Jo does. 136 00:10:03,262 --> 00:10:05,941 Suze, have a look at this, will you? 137 00:10:05,942 --> 00:10:09,301 It's his scaphoid, which is split - post-mortem I assumed, 138 00:10:09,302 --> 00:10:11,661 except when I put the two bits together, 139 00:10:11,662 --> 00:10:13,781 that's a hole, isn't it? 140 00:10:13,782 --> 00:10:16,701 Like something's been driven through it. 141 00:10:16,702 --> 00:10:18,782 Something like a... nail. 142 00:10:25,322 --> 00:10:28,242 I've seen it before with gangland punishment murders. 143 00:10:29,339 --> 00:10:31,699 'A nail hammered through the hand.' 144 00:10:31,699 --> 00:10:34,299 Very often a precursor to other forms of torture. 145 00:10:35,419 --> 00:10:37,579 All right. Thanks. 'You're welcome.' 146 00:10:47,619 --> 00:10:50,218 If Pinion's lies are all the police have, 147 00:10:50,219 --> 00:10:52,178 I wouldn't be too worried. 148 00:10:52,179 --> 00:10:54,539 But couple of days ago, Gordon Fenwick... 149 00:10:54,539 --> 00:10:59,379 called me from Cyprus, threatening to go to the police himself with... 150 00:11:00,779 --> 00:11:02,419 ..with some other stuff. 151 00:11:03,339 --> 00:11:06,938 What other stuff? More lies, detail's not really important. 152 00:11:06,939 --> 00:11:10,219 What is important is what the police might believe. 153 00:11:11,139 --> 00:11:14,378 And he wants money? Course. 154 00:11:14,379 --> 00:11:17,339 S-So what are you gonna do? 155 00:11:19,059 --> 00:11:21,259 Your Turkish friends... 156 00:11:22,259 --> 00:11:25,098 ..I might need you to call them for me. 157 00:11:25,099 --> 00:11:28,018 I'm not talking anything stupid, just a quiet word. 158 00:11:28,019 --> 00:11:32,058 For a man like Fenwick, I suspect that'll be enough. 159 00:11:32,059 --> 00:11:35,978 Dad, are you sure? That is quite a move. 160 00:11:35,979 --> 00:11:38,138 Gordon Fenwick could get me jailed for murder, 161 00:11:38,139 --> 00:11:42,979 a murder I had absolutely nothing to do with. 162 00:11:47,939 --> 00:11:50,059 We need him to back off. 163 00:11:51,099 --> 00:11:53,059 And fast. 164 00:12:01,979 --> 00:12:04,138 Yeah, what I wanna know is if it's possible 165 00:12:04,139 --> 00:12:06,578 to tell me what numbers were called from this payphone 166 00:12:06,579 --> 00:12:08,899 from midday on the 23rd to approximately midnight. 167 00:12:09,819 --> 00:12:12,298 Brilliant. Yeah, great. 168 00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:14,219 Yeah. 169 00:12:30,979 --> 00:12:35,818 Yeah, I think it was probably the only fight... 170 00:12:35,819 --> 00:12:39,178 I ever got into. I-I'd had a skinful, 171 00:12:39,179 --> 00:12:43,338 as I remember, and I think he had as well. 172 00:12:43,339 --> 00:12:46,978 Right. Do you remember what it was about? 173 00:12:46,979 --> 00:12:48,978 Football. I'm afraid. 174 00:12:48,979 --> 00:12:51,738 I'm a Blade. For my sins. He was a Gooner. 175 00:12:51,739 --> 00:12:56,138 I think we'd just beaten them and one of us must've said something. 176 00:12:56,139 --> 00:13:00,098 It all kicked off... Stupid, just stupid, really. 177 00:13:00,099 --> 00:13:04,538 I mean, put it down to the impetuosity of youth. 178 00:13:04,539 --> 00:13:07,458 Hopefully I've grown up a bit since then. 179 00:13:07,459 --> 00:13:12,858 In the court documents, it has it down as you assaulting him, 180 00:13:12,859 --> 00:13:16,578 which er... implies that you started it. 181 00:13:16,579 --> 00:13:19,218 Well... then I expect I did. 182 00:13:19,219 --> 00:13:23,938 I mean, you know, I was drunk. As I say. I... 183 00:13:23,939 --> 00:13:27,138 I can't really remember an awful lot about it. 184 00:13:27,139 --> 00:13:28,979 Sorry. 185 00:13:29,979 --> 00:13:33,738 Yeah, my real name's Alan Mackay, but everyone calls me Mackie. 186 00:13:33,739 --> 00:13:36,538 Well, thanks so much for getting in touch. 187 00:13:36,539 --> 00:13:39,179 And just so I can be absolutely clear, 188 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:42,619 as well as Jimmy, I think you said you knew Vincent Erskine as well. 189 00:13:42,619 --> 00:13:45,419 Vince? Yeah. And Beth, his girlfriend. 190 00:13:46,339 --> 00:13:48,339 You knew Elizabeth? 'I did, aye.' 191 00:13:50,779 --> 00:13:54,698 OK, Mackie, could I come talk to you, please? 192 00:13:54,699 --> 00:13:56,299 Er, soon as possible would be good. 193 00:13:59,059 --> 00:14:03,618 I mean, do you think it was just a one-off or...? 194 00:14:03,619 --> 00:14:05,938 I don't know. We didn't get that far. 195 00:14:05,939 --> 00:14:09,298 But if he could've done it once, got away with it... 196 00:14:09,299 --> 00:14:11,259 why shouldn't there have been others? 197 00:14:11,979 --> 00:14:15,818 Mum, I'm so sorry. I am, too. 198 00:14:15,819 --> 00:14:17,938 For you both. 199 00:14:17,939 --> 00:14:20,299 I mean, I suppose all you can say is... 200 00:14:22,179 --> 00:14:24,778 ..it was 40 years ago and... 201 00:14:24,779 --> 00:14:27,418 And what? 202 00:14:27,419 --> 00:14:30,138 What, you think that makes it better? 203 00:14:30,139 --> 00:14:34,538 Jesus, it makes it worse! Ellie, it's our whole lives. 204 00:14:34,539 --> 00:14:37,338 Our whole relationship with him feels like a lie. 205 00:14:37,339 --> 00:14:38,938 Does it? 206 00:14:38,939 --> 00:14:41,018 Look, he's... He's still our dad. 207 00:14:41,019 --> 00:14:43,458 I mean, clearly he made a terrible mistake but - 208 00:14:43,459 --> 00:14:47,378 But... But what? I can't believe you're defending him. 209 00:14:47,379 --> 00:14:51,058 I'm not defending what he did. I'm... I'm trying to find a way through this. 210 00:14:51,059 --> 00:14:53,618 He had sex with a child, for God's sake! 211 00:14:53,619 --> 00:14:56,138 Caz, she wasn't a child. She was 17. 212 00:14:56,139 --> 00:14:58,578 If he'd have been caught today, he would go to prison. 213 00:14:58,579 --> 00:15:01,218 Do you not get that? Of course I get that, but I... 214 00:15:01,219 --> 00:15:03,858 But what? 215 00:15:03,859 --> 00:15:05,498 What, they were different times? 216 00:15:05,499 --> 00:15:07,418 Bollocks. 217 00:15:07,419 --> 00:15:10,018 She was a kid. She was one of his congregation. 218 00:15:10,019 --> 00:15:12,458 He was in a position of power and he abused it. 219 00:15:12,459 --> 00:15:15,458 I'm sorry if you think I'm overreacting. 220 00:15:15,459 --> 00:15:17,739 But I am scared. 221 00:15:18,379 --> 00:15:22,499 It makes me ask... what sort of man is he really? 222 00:15:23,219 --> 00:15:26,779 Why are the police asking him about this boy that was found? 223 00:15:29,099 --> 00:15:32,299 It makes me ask what else he could've done. 224 00:15:33,619 --> 00:15:37,058 It was only her that stayed at the hostel. 225 00:15:37,059 --> 00:15:41,498 Elizabeth? Erskine wasn't allowed to stay cos he always got into fights. 226 00:15:41,499 --> 00:15:45,018 Elizabeth? Right. Anyway, I got talking to him in the garden one day, 227 00:15:45,019 --> 00:15:47,778 cos at that time I was still using. 228 00:15:47,779 --> 00:15:51,418 I let him spout his racist rubbish for a bit. 229 00:15:51,419 --> 00:15:56,418 Until he started talking about this black lad he reckoned had some money on him. 230 00:15:56,419 --> 00:15:58,218 And he wanted to know whether I fancied 231 00:15:58,219 --> 00:16:00,418 helping him rob the lad that night in his room. 232 00:16:00,419 --> 00:16:03,578 And was this just him, or was Beth there too? 233 00:16:03,579 --> 00:16:08,298 Well... She was there, like, you know, in the background, 234 00:16:08,299 --> 00:16:11,338 but er... not actually part of the conversation. 235 00:16:11,339 --> 00:16:14,138 And so what did you say? 236 00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:17,258 Well... I didn't say much, 237 00:16:17,259 --> 00:16:20,458 because I didn't want him to know that er... 238 00:16:20,459 --> 00:16:22,499 that Jimmy was actually a good friend of mine. 239 00:16:23,499 --> 00:16:25,538 You know, and obviously I was gonna warn him. 240 00:16:25,539 --> 00:16:29,019 And did you warn him? I went to look for him but er... 241 00:16:31,419 --> 00:16:33,178 Somebody offered me some gear. 242 00:16:33,179 --> 00:16:36,738 By the time I was straight again it was two days later. 243 00:16:36,739 --> 00:16:38,699 And sir, did you find out if he'd been robbed? 244 00:16:41,459 --> 00:16:43,699 No, I didn't. 245 00:16:44,579 --> 00:16:47,899 In fact, I... I never saw Jimmy again. 246 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:19,779 Looks just like one of our lads. 247 00:17:19,979 --> 00:17:21,419 Don't he? 248 00:17:23,099 --> 00:17:25,498 I remember when erm... 249 00:17:25,499 --> 00:17:30,458 you first suggested that we should start up the er, football squad. 250 00:17:30,459 --> 00:17:33,298 It wasn't long after Michael had died, 251 00:17:33,299 --> 00:17:40,219 and I always thought that it was er, your way of finding some meaning... 252 00:17:43,099 --> 00:17:45,619 ..out of HIS death. 253 00:17:47,819 --> 00:17:51,298 If you think I killed this boy, Ray... 254 00:17:51,299 --> 00:17:53,418 just say it. 255 00:17:53,419 --> 00:17:55,299 How can I know, Lizzie? 256 00:17:56,099 --> 00:18:00,979 How could I have any idea of what you were capable of? 257 00:18:02,739 --> 00:18:04,739 Back then. 258 00:18:09,459 --> 00:18:12,218 We stopped at the services for some supper, 259 00:18:12,219 --> 00:18:15,138 which was very nice, and then got back here about 11:00. 260 00:18:15,139 --> 00:18:17,098 'And what have you got on today?' 261 00:18:17,099 --> 00:18:19,778 Oh, Thursday's lunch club, every week. 262 00:18:19,779 --> 00:18:22,058 Lunch club? Why wasn't I invited? 263 00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:24,218 Well, I'll put you down for next week so. 264 00:18:24,219 --> 00:18:26,018 Well, I'll put you down 'Yeah. Yeah, I'll be there.' 265 00:18:26,019 --> 00:18:27,858 Ah, they're a good gang. 266 00:18:27,859 --> 00:18:30,298 'I was telling them about you, you know, and... 267 00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:34,458 about Jimmy coming home and er, they were very happy for me.' 268 00:18:34,459 --> 00:18:36,138 He rang her from the callbox. 269 00:18:36,139 --> 00:18:39,219 Jo-Jo. Her name's Joanna Bridges. 270 00:18:39,739 --> 00:18:41,459 We found Jo-Jo. 271 00:18:50,262 --> 00:18:53,102 Tell me how you met Jimmy Sullivan. 272 00:18:53,102 --> 00:18:55,701 I met Jimmy through the church. 273 00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:58,981 Went out with him for... maybe six months. 274 00:18:58,982 --> 00:19:02,262 Oh, this was before or after your relationship with Father Robert? 275 00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:04,981 After. 276 00:19:04,982 --> 00:19:07,542 So when was your relationship with Father Robert? 277 00:19:08,782 --> 00:19:11,701 Late 1975, as I remember. 278 00:19:11,702 --> 00:19:13,702 How late? 279 00:19:13,982 --> 00:19:15,941 Just before Christmas. November, I think. 280 00:19:15,942 --> 00:19:18,261 I mean, it was just a few weeks. 281 00:19:18,262 --> 00:19:22,061 So Father Robert said to us that he thought you were erm... 282 00:19:22,062 --> 00:19:25,421 19 or 20 when he met you. 283 00:19:25,422 --> 00:19:29,181 And so we checked your date of birth before we came here today. 284 00:19:29,182 --> 00:19:34,182 And actually, if your affair was in November '75... 285 00:19:36,622 --> 00:19:38,342 ..actually, that would've made you 15. 286 00:19:39,662 --> 00:19:41,862 When the 28-year-old priest had sex with you. 287 00:19:42,742 --> 00:19:47,222 You weren't 16 till February 1976. 288 00:19:48,462 --> 00:19:51,621 Maybe it was Jimmy first and then Robert. 289 00:19:51,622 --> 00:19:56,701 Except we have a diary, given to Jimmy... by you. 290 00:19:56,702 --> 00:20:00,461 Erm, in which it says 'With much love, Jo-Jo.' 291 00:20:00,462 --> 00:20:02,821 In December '75. 292 00:20:02,822 --> 00:20:05,982 Which suggests that either you did... 293 00:20:07,462 --> 00:20:10,461 ..have underage sex with a priest... 294 00:20:10,462 --> 00:20:12,542 or at some point after your birthday... 295 00:20:14,502 --> 00:20:17,061 ..you were seeing both men, It was half a lifetime ago. 296 00:20:17,062 --> 00:20:18,701 What the hell does it matter? 297 00:20:18,702 --> 00:20:21,221 It matters because we think that Jimmy found out 298 00:20:21,222 --> 00:20:23,661 about Robert Greaves and confronted him. 299 00:20:23,662 --> 00:20:27,462 And that altercation may have resulted in Jimmy's death. 300 00:20:34,262 --> 00:20:36,062 And what proof have you got of that? 301 00:20:38,542 --> 00:20:42,421 And how credible do you think he is as a witness? JAKE: 'Very.' 302 00:20:42,422 --> 00:20:44,701 This guy knew other stuff I thought only we knew. 303 00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:46,981 This guy knew other stuff 'What other stuff?' 304 00:20:46,982 --> 00:20:51,021 The £50 we think Jimmy borrowed from Frank Cross, he knew all about that. 305 00:20:51,022 --> 00:20:54,101 'And, more importantly, he knew what it was for.' 306 00:20:54,102 --> 00:20:56,861 Which was? 'To pay for an abortion.' 307 00:20:56,862 --> 00:21:00,461 Jimmy told Alan Mackay that his girlfriend had fallen pregnant. 308 00:21:00,462 --> 00:21:03,502 And Jimmy was the father? Why else would he pay for it? 309 00:21:03,503 --> 00:21:07,422 Cos she said he was. I'll ask my man exactly what Jimmy told him. 310 00:21:07,422 --> 00:21:09,901 OK. It's lots to think about. 311 00:21:09,902 --> 00:21:12,501 Let's bring Elizabeth Wilton in ASAP. 312 00:21:12,502 --> 00:21:16,301 Excellent work, Jake. Murray, any joy with Tommy Pinion? 313 00:21:16,302 --> 00:21:21,061 He said that he'd never seen Cross put a nail through anyone's hand 314 00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:23,581 but heard from others that he had. 315 00:21:23,582 --> 00:21:26,581 'Well, Dr Rawlins is pretty convinced that's what it is, so... 316 00:21:26,582 --> 00:21:30,022 somebody did it. We keep the pressure on Cross.' 317 00:21:48,222 --> 00:21:50,501 Yes, it's me. 318 00:21:50,502 --> 00:21:52,621 Why did Fenwick send those to you? 319 00:21:52,622 --> 00:21:54,941 Well, I'm guessing he's already contacted Dad 320 00:21:54,942 --> 00:21:56,782 and Dad isn't playing ball. 321 00:21:59,222 --> 00:22:02,421 Well... the man in those pictures is white. 322 00:22:02,422 --> 00:22:04,061 That lad in the papers was black. 323 00:22:04,062 --> 00:22:06,221 He's still nailing his hand to a workbench, Mum. 324 00:22:06,222 --> 00:22:08,861 I'm just saying. 325 00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:10,941 There's nothing in these to suggest 326 00:22:10,942 --> 00:22:13,421 he had anything to do with killing that lad. 327 00:22:13,422 --> 00:22:17,342 Fine. But trust me, he doesn't want the police to see these. 328 00:22:18,262 --> 00:22:21,741 I should also say that the images obviously depict a crime scene, 329 00:22:21,742 --> 00:22:24,261 which, as of now, I've failed to act upon. 330 00:22:24,262 --> 00:22:26,421 So if Fenwick doesn't get what he wants, 331 00:22:26,422 --> 00:22:29,702 and he shows his email to me to the police, we're BOTH screwed. 332 00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:33,782 I'll pay him off. I have before. 333 00:22:36,862 --> 00:22:38,662 Fenwick? Yes. 334 00:22:40,582 --> 00:22:42,542 How many times? 335 00:22:46,182 --> 00:22:49,222 A few. 336 00:22:58,622 --> 00:23:00,622 It's the police. 337 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,902 Hey, Mum. 338 00:23:28,302 --> 00:23:32,061 Hello, my lovely son. How completely gorgeous to see you. 339 00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:33,942 Tell me you're staying for months. 340 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:40,181 Have you any actual proof other than Pinion's fantasies 341 00:23:40,182 --> 00:23:43,022 that I did anything like this, to Jimmy Sullivan? 342 00:23:44,142 --> 00:23:45,941 We have a wound on Jimmy's hand 343 00:23:45,942 --> 00:23:48,422 that's entirely consistent with such an assault. 344 00:23:50,582 --> 00:23:53,022 But nothing connecting that to me? 345 00:23:53,702 --> 00:23:55,541 Not yet. 346 00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:58,102 But I sense we're getting closer. Don't you? 347 00:24:01,382 --> 00:24:03,101 So we'll probably go to Faliraki now. 348 00:24:03,102 --> 00:24:05,741 Nige's brother's got a bar there and he said me and Belter 349 00:24:05,742 --> 00:24:08,221 can have a room for three nights a week bar work. 350 00:24:08,222 --> 00:24:10,341 Mind you, that's if Belter sorts out his teeth. 351 00:24:10,342 --> 00:24:13,702 His girlfriend smacked him with a table tennis bat cos he joked about her art. 352 00:24:15,662 --> 00:24:17,861 What? 353 00:24:17,862 --> 00:24:20,582 Keep going. Why are you smiling like that? 354 00:24:21,662 --> 00:24:23,581 Because I love you. 355 00:24:23,582 --> 00:24:26,422 Just keep talking. Just keep telling me stuff. 356 00:24:27,502 --> 00:24:31,141 Well, anyway, he's gotta have two implants now, 357 00:24:31,142 --> 00:24:32,941 and Nige says he should to go India. 358 00:24:32,942 --> 00:24:36,421 His dad got eight new teeth in Delhi for less than a grand. 359 00:24:36,422 --> 00:24:38,781 His mouth doesn't shut properly but his missus says 360 00:24:38,782 --> 00:24:41,661 keeping his mouth shut was never a core skill anyway, so... 361 00:24:41,662 --> 00:24:43,421 "Plus ca change," as Proust would say. 362 00:24:43,422 --> 00:24:45,022 Do you want fried bread with this? 363 00:25:25,062 --> 00:25:27,421 Yo, Curtis, fam. 364 00:25:27,422 --> 00:25:29,222 Call me. 365 00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:37,782 Dad? 366 00:25:38,822 --> 00:25:40,742 Up here. 367 00:25:49,622 --> 00:25:51,742 I don't know what to say. 368 00:25:52,702 --> 00:25:56,461 I'd hoped that Mum didn't feel that she had to tell you now. 369 00:25:56,462 --> 00:25:59,901 She told us cos of the wedding. Oh, no, sweetheart, please, 370 00:25:59,902 --> 00:26:02,021 surely this doesn't affect the wedding? 371 00:26:02,022 --> 00:26:04,662 It's a celebration of the sanctity of marriage. 372 00:26:05,742 --> 00:26:07,542 Conducted by you. 373 00:26:10,182 --> 00:26:12,541 It was a terrible thing to do. 374 00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:15,541 I completely accept that, but it was... 375 00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:18,901 one mistake, 40 years ago. 376 00:26:18,902 --> 00:26:21,502 In an otherwise very, very happy marriage. 377 00:26:22,862 --> 00:26:25,661 One mistake. 378 00:26:25,662 --> 00:26:29,222 And was it? Really? 379 00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:33,221 Well, yes, of course. 380 00:26:33,222 --> 00:26:36,582 There was no-one else. I don't mean other women, I mean... 381 00:26:38,582 --> 00:26:40,182 Th... 382 00:26:41,662 --> 00:26:43,261 This police investigation. 383 00:26:43,262 --> 00:26:46,102 Oh, my darling, no, no, please. 384 00:26:47,502 --> 00:26:51,662 Please. Don't ask me if I killed that poor boy. 385 00:26:52,582 --> 00:26:54,541 Please. 386 00:26:54,542 --> 00:26:56,542 Don't make me answer that. 387 00:26:58,422 --> 00:27:00,502 Please. 388 00:27:04,622 --> 00:27:05,902 Yes. 389 00:27:07,182 --> 00:27:09,382 We robbed him. 390 00:27:10,022 --> 00:27:12,742 Of his £50? Yes. 391 00:27:14,862 --> 00:27:17,621 So everything that you told us before... 392 00:27:17,622 --> 00:27:21,021 that you have no recollection of ever having met him... 393 00:27:21,022 --> 00:27:23,061 that was a lie? 394 00:27:23,062 --> 00:27:25,102 Yes. 395 00:27:27,502 --> 00:27:29,821 I wished I could forget him. 396 00:27:29,822 --> 00:27:32,182 Every single day of my life. 397 00:27:34,782 --> 00:27:37,742 So can you tell me how Jimmy died? 398 00:27:39,022 --> 00:27:43,461 I wouldn't for one second expect you to believe me... 399 00:27:43,462 --> 00:27:45,301 but no. 400 00:27:45,302 --> 00:27:48,501 When I left the room with the money... 401 00:27:48,502 --> 00:27:50,622 Jimmy was fine. 402 00:27:52,902 --> 00:27:55,982 Erskine was still in there? Yes. 403 00:27:57,702 --> 00:28:00,661 And did erm, he have any weapon with him? 404 00:28:00,662 --> 00:28:03,462 Not that I recall. OK. 405 00:28:04,462 --> 00:28:07,182 So where did you go? Outside, to wait for him. 406 00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:11,902 And how long did he take to come down? 407 00:28:14,262 --> 00:28:16,501 Not long. Maybe... 408 00:28:16,502 --> 00:28:19,182 30 seconds behind me. Right. 409 00:28:21,382 --> 00:28:24,061 And what did he say? 410 00:28:24,062 --> 00:28:27,062 When he came down. He was laughing. 411 00:28:28,382 --> 00:28:31,742 Said Jimmy was a "feisty little bastard". 412 00:28:34,742 --> 00:28:37,302 Did he have any blood on him? I don't think so. 413 00:28:38,342 --> 00:28:40,901 He might've done. I... 414 00:28:40,902 --> 00:28:43,902 was very drunk, so certain details... 415 00:28:45,582 --> 00:28:49,821 You... obviously thought so little of this young man 416 00:28:49,822 --> 00:28:53,061 that you were able to rob him in his bed. 417 00:28:53,062 --> 00:28:57,902 Yet your name and number were written down by him in his diary. 418 00:28:59,262 --> 00:29:01,701 How did that happen? 419 00:29:01,702 --> 00:29:04,021 When I first met Jimmy, 420 00:29:04,022 --> 00:29:07,902 it was during a period when I tried to split up with Erskine. 421 00:29:08,902 --> 00:29:12,222 Only lasted a few weeks before he got me back, but in that time... 422 00:29:14,062 --> 00:29:16,222 ..I stopped drinking, I got clean. 423 00:29:17,462 --> 00:29:19,342 And Jimmy and I got to know each other a bit. 424 00:29:22,942 --> 00:29:25,901 And I gave him my number... 425 00:29:25,902 --> 00:29:28,262 cos I hoped... 426 00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:34,582 ..just like... 427 00:29:35,702 --> 00:29:38,142 ..in the few weeks when I'd been straight... 428 00:29:41,782 --> 00:29:46,942 ..that he'd carry on helping teach me to read and write. 429 00:29:56,782 --> 00:29:59,101 Hm. Did you expect that? 430 00:29:59,102 --> 00:30:03,621 Guv? It might be nothing, but... 431 00:30:03,622 --> 00:30:05,501 I was just checking out the pub 432 00:30:05,502 --> 00:30:08,781 where Eric Slater and Paul West were arrested - the assault? Yeah. 433 00:30:08,782 --> 00:30:11,261 Don't know if it's significant but... 434 00:30:11,262 --> 00:30:14,222 it's a gay pub. It has been since, well... 435 00:30:15,102 --> 00:30:16,902 ..since the '60s. 436 00:30:29,648 --> 00:30:33,847 So if we forget him committing the slightly illegal offence of threatening to kill Fenwick - 437 00:30:33,848 --> 00:30:36,847 He never said that, Bella. Maybe the only other option 438 00:30:36,848 --> 00:30:39,767 is for him to go to the police himself with the photos. 439 00:30:39,768 --> 00:30:43,047 If the police see those photos, it's not gonna be good for him. 440 00:30:43,048 --> 00:30:44,927 Probably not, no. 441 00:30:44,928 --> 00:30:47,407 So what's the minimum term for murder? 442 00:30:47,408 --> 00:30:49,087 A mandatory life sentence. 443 00:30:49,088 --> 00:30:52,647 In a case like this, he'd serve at least 15 years. 444 00:30:52,648 --> 00:30:55,807 So he'd not get out until he was in his 80s? 445 00:30:55,808 --> 00:30:57,487 If in fact he... 446 00:30:57,488 --> 00:30:59,567 In fact, he might not even make it that far. 447 00:30:59,568 --> 00:31:02,888 It would effectively widow Mum. Except, what if he did it? 448 00:31:03,888 --> 00:31:06,967 Because to me, never mind that it was 40 years ago, 449 00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:09,727 or who or what he is now, or that he's our dad, 450 00:31:09,728 --> 00:31:13,528 if he did it... he has to be punished. 451 00:31:15,568 --> 00:31:17,528 Doesn't he? 452 00:31:18,248 --> 00:31:20,288 All right? 453 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,808 30. 454 00:31:29,168 --> 00:31:30,888 Thanks. 455 00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:48,848 Curtis? Curtis? 456 00:31:49,928 --> 00:31:52,088 Where you going, mate? Home. 457 00:31:53,008 --> 00:31:55,847 Really? I thought you were smarter than that. 458 00:31:55,848 --> 00:31:58,207 Actually missing an exam? 459 00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:02,087 So you're gonna throw away three years of hard work, are you? 460 00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:05,047 Just like that? If you think it'll really piss her off, yeah. 461 00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:08,487 Sorry, are you talking about the woman who took you into our house? 462 00:32:08,488 --> 00:32:10,207 Fed you. Treated you like her son. 463 00:32:10,208 --> 00:32:13,487 I've already got one fucked-up mum! I don't need another. 464 00:32:13,488 --> 00:32:15,208 You little shit! 465 00:32:20,008 --> 00:32:22,087 Curtis? 466 00:32:22,088 --> 00:32:23,928 I'm sorry, Curtis. I... 467 00:32:25,168 --> 00:32:28,007 I'm sorry. 468 00:32:28,008 --> 00:32:30,487 Elizabeth Wilton, you've been charged with assault 469 00:32:30,488 --> 00:32:34,927 and the intent to rob, under Section Eight of the Theft Act 1968. 470 00:32:34,928 --> 00:32:37,287 You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence 471 00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:40,167 if you do not mention now anything you later rely on in court. 472 00:32:40,168 --> 00:32:42,847 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 473 00:32:42,848 --> 00:32:44,448 Do you understand the charge? 474 00:32:46,648 --> 00:32:51,287 Yes. I remember the assault. 475 00:32:51,288 --> 00:32:54,327 He was devastated by it. 476 00:32:54,328 --> 00:32:57,407 But it was an assault, not a fight, yeah? 477 00:32:57,408 --> 00:33:00,207 Eric Slater attacked your brother? Yes. 478 00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:03,208 Will you tell me why? 479 00:33:04,328 --> 00:33:06,328 Because of where he was drinking. 480 00:33:07,488 --> 00:33:10,047 Because of what he was. He was gay? 481 00:33:10,048 --> 00:33:12,088 Yes. 482 00:33:13,008 --> 00:33:15,167 Do you know why he didn't turn up at court? 483 00:33:15,168 --> 00:33:18,648 Do you know why he didn't Because if it had come out... 484 00:33:21,848 --> 00:33:26,047 The idea that being gay was such a shameful thing... 485 00:33:26,048 --> 00:33:29,088 I'm not sure many people understand that now but... 486 00:33:30,688 --> 00:33:32,527 ..he'd have lost his job. 487 00:33:32,528 --> 00:33:36,007 Most people thought that what he was was disgusting, 488 00:33:36,008 --> 00:33:40,007 and let me tell you, he was convinced... 489 00:33:40,008 --> 00:33:42,728 that if that police officer hadn't been passing... 490 00:33:45,168 --> 00:33:48,528 ..Eric Slater would've beaten him to death. 491 00:33:53,728 --> 00:33:57,087 So Eric Slater... 492 00:33:57,088 --> 00:34:00,647 violently assaults a gay man... 493 00:34:00,648 --> 00:34:02,367 a year or so before Jimmy was killed. 494 00:34:02,368 --> 00:34:04,927 According to her. Yes, according to her. 495 00:34:04,928 --> 00:34:06,807 Cos there's nothing absolutely nothing 496 00:34:06,808 --> 00:34:09,727 that we've learnt about Jimmy that suggests he was gay. 497 00:34:09,728 --> 00:34:14,128 Now, if we're saying that his murder was some sort of homophobia-motivated thing... 498 00:34:17,488 --> 00:34:19,647 Look, you'd better call the girls. 499 00:34:19,648 --> 00:34:23,088 We need to talk to Slater again. 500 00:34:30,168 --> 00:34:32,007 Forget her, man. 501 00:34:32,008 --> 00:34:33,968 I mean, what does she think you are? 502 00:34:34,648 --> 00:34:36,928 Some sorta tame little coconut? 503 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:45,367 That... 504 00:34:45,368 --> 00:34:47,847 ain't you, fam. 505 00:34:47,848 --> 00:34:50,887 It's what she wants you to be. 506 00:34:50,888 --> 00:34:53,088 You should chuck it out, man. 507 00:34:55,248 --> 00:34:56,768 I ain't no coconut, man. 508 00:36:21,528 --> 00:36:23,488 Thanks, mate. Cheers. 509 00:36:24,488 --> 00:36:28,247 Mr Slater? Sorry to disturb you. You're obviously busy. 510 00:36:28,248 --> 00:36:31,248 Is your father around? Just need to have another quick chat. 511 00:36:32,768 --> 00:36:34,968 Like a bad penny, you lot. 512 00:36:42,208 --> 00:36:44,847 I don't care what he told his sister. That's not what happened. 513 00:36:44,848 --> 00:36:47,167 Right, so this wasn't an unprovoked attack? 514 00:36:47,168 --> 00:36:49,367 Yeah, it's what I said it was. 515 00:36:49,368 --> 00:36:52,968 So... you've never had any problems with gay men? 516 00:36:54,728 --> 00:36:56,407 No. 517 00:36:56,408 --> 00:37:00,607 His sister told us that you were waiting for him outside. 518 00:37:00,608 --> 00:37:03,967 No, I was drinking IN the pub. You knew it was a gay bar? 519 00:37:03,968 --> 00:37:05,488 No idea. 520 00:37:06,648 --> 00:37:11,847 Right, so you didn't notice that it was an entirely male clientele when you went in? 521 00:37:11,848 --> 00:37:14,927 I've absolutely no idea if I did or I didn't. 522 00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:18,727 This was the '70s. Most pubs were pretty exclusively full of men. 523 00:37:18,728 --> 00:37:21,687 Why do you think he told his sister that you were outside? 524 00:37:21,688 --> 00:37:24,727 I don't know. You know, as I say... 525 00:37:24,728 --> 00:37:27,567 he was fairly drunk as well. Maybe he just got it wrong, 526 00:37:27,568 --> 00:37:29,567 or she's mistaking this fight for another, 527 00:37:29,568 --> 00:37:31,888 or she's remembered it wrongly. I don't know. 528 00:37:32,808 --> 00:37:34,447 Think back 40 years, 529 00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:36,927 think of something significant that happened to you. 530 00:37:36,928 --> 00:37:39,607 How much detail can you remember now? 531 00:37:39,608 --> 00:37:41,567 It... It-It's a lifetime ago. 532 00:37:41,568 --> 00:37:43,608 She's remembered it wrong. 533 00:37:46,688 --> 00:37:50,327 Did you ever wonder whether Jimmy Sullivan was gay? 534 00:37:50,328 --> 00:37:51,847 Wh... 535 00:37:51,848 --> 00:37:54,807 Jimmy? Wh-Why would I have thought that? 536 00:37:54,808 --> 00:37:57,287 The last time you were here, 537 00:37:57,288 --> 00:37:59,248 we were talking about his girlfriend. 538 00:38:00,648 --> 00:38:02,927 We didn't mention his girlfriend. 539 00:38:02,928 --> 00:38:06,247 Nor did you. Jo-Jo. We talked about her. 540 00:38:06,248 --> 00:38:08,288 Only in connection with Robert Greaves. 541 00:38:09,368 --> 00:38:11,247 Yeah. 542 00:38:11,248 --> 00:38:14,487 Yeah, well, I assumed you already knew 543 00:38:14,488 --> 00:38:16,767 that she and Jimmy had had a thing. 544 00:38:16,768 --> 00:38:18,808 Why would you have assumed that? 545 00:38:19,808 --> 00:38:21,807 Why would you have not mentioned 546 00:38:21,808 --> 00:38:24,608 what was clearly a very important piece of information? 547 00:38:25,888 --> 00:38:30,088 Unless you were trying to steer our focus towards Robert Greaves. 548 00:38:33,888 --> 00:38:35,927 I don't know. 549 00:38:35,928 --> 00:38:40,287 I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said, this is all ancient history. 550 00:38:40,288 --> 00:38:42,727 I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said, I forget stuff. But er... 551 00:38:42,728 --> 00:38:45,327 please, trust me... 552 00:38:45,328 --> 00:38:48,168 you're way... way off being here. 553 00:38:53,128 --> 00:38:55,527 So? What do you think? 554 00:38:55,528 --> 00:38:57,607 I believed him. 555 00:38:57,608 --> 00:38:59,568 Yeah, me too. 556 00:38:59,848 --> 00:39:02,888 This case is like trying to... grab hold of fog. 557 00:39:04,968 --> 00:39:08,087 I don't know, maybe you were right. Maybe it is all just too long ago. 558 00:39:08,088 --> 00:39:10,247 No - Cos this feels slightly insane. 559 00:39:10,248 --> 00:39:12,047 Trying to find some sort of truth in that? 560 00:39:12,048 --> 00:39:14,008 In people's utterly fucked memories. 561 00:39:15,888 --> 00:39:17,848 We'll get there, guv. 562 00:39:25,448 --> 00:39:28,167 Dad? 563 00:39:28,168 --> 00:39:30,967 All right? Yeah, fine. Y-You OK? 564 00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:33,888 Yeah. Fine. 565 00:39:35,168 --> 00:39:38,848 Come on, then, dopey. Let's get this party started. 566 00:39:53,648 --> 00:39:56,168 I know it's only small, but... 567 00:39:58,528 --> 00:40:00,688 Oh, it's lovely. Thank you. 568 00:40:02,408 --> 00:40:04,248 Just what I need. 569 00:40:07,088 --> 00:40:10,527 I just... Erm... You absolutely don't need to tell me anything, 570 00:40:10,528 --> 00:40:13,607 anything at all, but I just... 571 00:40:13,608 --> 00:40:17,847 I want you to know that if you did want someone to talk to... 572 00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:19,887 Thank you. 573 00:40:19,888 --> 00:40:21,728 I might just take you up on that some time. 574 00:40:24,768 --> 00:40:28,047 Well... I'll let you get settled in. 575 00:40:28,048 --> 00:40:30,608 Oh erm, there's one bit of good news. 576 00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:34,207 The police have found some CCTV footage 577 00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:38,367 of someone entering the community hall at the time of the burglary. 578 00:40:38,368 --> 00:40:41,247 They reckon they've got a pretty good screen grab of his face. 579 00:40:41,248 --> 00:40:43,167 They've asked me to go down there tomorrow, 580 00:40:43,168 --> 00:40:44,888 see if I recognise him from the estate. 581 00:40:46,728 --> 00:40:50,208 Which is good, isn't it? Yes. Yes. 582 00:40:57,288 --> 00:40:58,967 It's Andy! 583 00:40:58,968 --> 00:41:00,607 Let me introduce you to Gary Stevens. 584 00:41:00,608 --> 00:41:02,847 Gary was my boss at Andersons. 585 00:41:02,848 --> 00:41:06,447 He was the only man in the whole building who had two secretaries. 586 00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:08,887 One for each knee. 587 00:41:08,888 --> 00:41:11,128 Get yourselves a drink, won't you? 588 00:41:15,288 --> 00:41:17,567 How are you both keeping? Are you well? 589 00:41:17,568 --> 00:41:20,088 Nice to see you... 590 00:41:20,968 --> 00:41:23,767 How about a rose, Mum? Hmm? 591 00:41:23,768 --> 00:41:26,047 Half a glass won't do you no harm. 592 00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:28,008 Why are we celebrating? 593 00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:32,808 It's your... It's your 45th wedding anniversary, Mum. 594 00:41:33,808 --> 00:41:36,768 No, I know that. But why are we celebrating? 595 00:42:14,048 --> 00:42:17,127 In conclusion, let me just say that... 596 00:42:17,128 --> 00:42:20,567 that a marriage, it's a bit like a house. 597 00:42:20,568 --> 00:42:24,367 You don't just build it and let it look after itself. 598 00:42:24,368 --> 00:42:28,047 It needs constant maintenance. 599 00:42:28,048 --> 00:42:30,367 Doesn't it, sweetheart? 600 00:42:30,368 --> 00:42:34,127 And yes, maybe her plumbing's not all it once was... 601 00:42:34,128 --> 00:42:37,167 ..and my guttering, that could do with a good jet-hose. 602 00:42:37,168 --> 00:42:41,247 But the foundations are rock-solid. 603 00:42:41,248 --> 00:42:45,287 So if you will, raise your glasses to my beloved and I. 604 00:42:45,288 --> 00:42:49,687 Here's to another 45 years! 605 00:42:49,688 --> 00:42:51,767 45 years! Cheers! 606 00:42:51,768 --> 00:42:53,887 ALL SINGING: # Congratulations 607 00:42:53,888 --> 00:42:56,567 # And celebrations 608 00:42:56,568 --> 00:43:00,888 # When I tell everyone that you're in love with me 609 00:43:01,728 --> 00:43:04,567 # Congratulations 610 00:43:04,568 --> 00:43:06,927 # And jubilations 611 00:43:06,928 --> 00:43:10,967 # I want the world to know I'm happy as can be... 612 00:43:10,968 --> 00:43:12,968 How are you feeling? 613 00:43:19,488 --> 00:43:21,248 Mum! 614 00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,767 Mum! 615 00:43:25,768 --> 00:43:27,768 Mum... 616 00:43:28,088 --> 00:43:31,128 Maybe felt I'd... I'd already put so much in 617 00:43:33,128 --> 00:43:35,487 to our new life here, with you boys 618 00:43:35,488 --> 00:43:39,487 and finding this lovely house and making all our new friends. 619 00:43:39,488 --> 00:43:41,207 I didn't want to give it all up. 620 00:43:41,208 --> 00:43:43,567 Mum. I don't know what you're talking about. 621 00:43:43,568 --> 00:43:45,807 Let's get you in... Then he had his accident, 622 00:43:45,808 --> 00:43:48,448 so he wouldn't have been able to hurt anyone anymore anyway. 623 00:43:49,728 --> 00:43:53,567 What... Sorry? I think I just tried to bury it all, Les. 624 00:43:53,568 --> 00:43:55,447 What did you say? You said "hurt anyone". 625 00:43:55,448 --> 00:43:57,847 What do you mean? And now with my head the way it is 626 00:43:57,848 --> 00:44:00,047 and the police asking all these questions, 627 00:44:00,048 --> 00:44:02,087 it's starting to swirl around in my head. 628 00:44:02,088 --> 00:44:05,127 And the problem is, Les, I... 629 00:44:05,128 --> 00:44:08,568 I've absolutely no idea what's real and what isn't. 630 00:44:26,328 --> 00:44:28,248 Lizzie! 631 00:44:49,128 --> 00:44:51,727 Yeah, there was stuff he did back then. 632 00:44:51,728 --> 00:44:55,048 Rumours I'd hear, just stuff we never talked about. 633 00:44:58,328 --> 00:45:02,207 Belle, I don't know what to do if the police start asking me questions. 634 00:45:02,208 --> 00:45:04,528 What do I say? 635 00:45:14,088 --> 00:45:15,848 Hungry? 636 00:45:23,728 --> 00:45:26,007 Yeah. 'See you when I get back.' 637 00:45:26,008 --> 00:45:28,087 OK. 'I haven't spoken to the guv yet.' 638 00:45:28,088 --> 00:45:31,207 'Do you know when she'll be back?' She's with me now. 'OK.' Yeah. 639 00:45:31,208 --> 00:45:33,168 'See you later.' OK, cheers. 640 00:45:34,448 --> 00:45:36,448 Call just came into the CID office. 641 00:45:40,208 --> 00:45:42,608 Looks like we've got another victim. 49911

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