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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.
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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.
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And I don't care where you're from.
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I don't care.
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If you tell me that you love football,
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and you don't love Barcelona,
you have a problem.
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If there's a game on TV,
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any team in the world,
if Barcelona are playing,
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I'd pick watching Barcelona all day long.
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I'd say 2011 was the best
brand of football I've seen.
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Barça re-established themselves
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as the most admired team in Europe.
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Not because we won ...
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but because of the style in which we won.
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There have been three special
eras in football history.
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First, Cruyff's Ajax,
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Sacchi's AC Milan,
a project that I continued.
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And then came Guardiola,
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and he created something beautiful.
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To play against Barcelona at that time,
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you just knew you had a bigger
chance to lose than to win.
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That Barcelona was just, you know,
eating everything on the table.
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It's one of the best ever performances
in a Champions League final,
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and to do it against
Manchester United was incredible.
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We really enjoyed ourselves that day.
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I mean, they were special.
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They were as good as I've came up against ...
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by quite some margin.
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And they were just too good.
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I remember Sir Alex saying
that he'd never lost like that before,
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where he felt ...
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that he couldn't do anything.
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No one's given us a hiding like that,
so it's a great moment for them.
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They deserve it because
they play the right way.
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They stuck at it, they kept
passing, they kept passing.
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They might have lost one or two,
but they kept passing it.
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And all of a sudden,
they make that extra pass,
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and the spaces are bigger,
it's harder to close down,
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and you lose your little bit of shape,
and that's when they take control.
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As a performance, it was ...
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It was as good as I've seen.
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What struck me about them really
was the patience of the wide men,
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to stay so high and so wide
and keep making them runs,
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and probably hardly ever getting the ball.
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They both got the goal,
but just the patience ...
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to stay in that position and hold us,
pin our fullbacks back, pin them back.
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And then obviously
you've got Messi to drop back,
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making it four v three.
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Outnumbering the opponent was
the basis of our whole strategy.
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Messi dropped into midfield to give
us that numerical advantage.
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And he also scored goals,
which gave us an advantage
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over every team we played.
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I'll show you how we did it.
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Here's the Manchester United defense.
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They never closed down
the player in the hole.
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They had two defensive midfielders,
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a number ten, Rooney,
who didn't defend very much,
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and a striker.
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For this goal, we were three against two.
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Iniesta plays the ball
across the line to Messi,
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and Messi attacks the defense.
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We started really well
but then they equalized,
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and that gave us a scare,
which is normal in a final.
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But we managed to take control
and when we went 3-1 up,
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we felt much more relaxed.
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Pep gave us a team talk
in the Wembley dressing room.
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I remember the room was
very dark, and he said,
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"I told you that if you got me
this far, I'd win you the final,
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"and I'm going to make sure you win it."
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If Pep said to jump off the third
tier of Camp Nou, I'd jump.
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There must be a good reason for it.
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And that's what I loved about him.
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He'd say things, and we'd realize ...
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that his words were never just words,
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and that convinces you that what you're doing ...
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is going to get results.
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It's unreal the way he used to tell us something,
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"That's what we're going to do.
Do it. It will work."
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And it will happen.
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It really will happen, just like that.
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That day was the crowning moment ...
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of everything we'd achieved since 2008.
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It was the crowning moment of our reign,
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the reign of a team adored by its supporters,
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and also by everyone who loves football.
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For Barça to win the Champions League ...
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in that style at Wembley,
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was the perfect end to a
brutally draining season.
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The rivalry between them and
Madrid had never been nastier.
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And the relationship between Mourinho
and Guardiola was beyond tense.
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Getting out of hand, some would say.
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I think it escalated into
something more than just football.
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I mean, I don't know whether there's
any rivalry between them personally,
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but it looked that way.
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Let's not forget where this comes from.
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In 2010, Barcelona are on their way
to the Champions League final.
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The Champions League final
is at Real Madrid's stadium.
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I think we've all forgotten
how much of a trauma this was in Madrid.
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They're terrified of this prospect.
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What happens?
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Mourinho happens.
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Mourinho beats Barcelona
and celebrates it like mad.
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And he's just passed his
audition for Real Madrid.
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It was difficult for Mourinho at Madrid ...
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because he probably arrives
when Barcelona are at their best.
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And I doubt that any other manager ...
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would have found a solution
for Madrid at the time.
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I think that he arrived to Madrid,
to a really big club,
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but he got frustrated after the 5-0,
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because we beat them 5-0
at Camp Nou in his first year.
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In the 5-0, they didn't have a hope.
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That was the best game ...
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I played in at Barça.
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I think that he just had
a reflection and said,
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"Listen, if we want to beat this team,
we cannot beat them playing football.
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We have to beat them in
trying to find another way."
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And they bring football outside of the pitch,
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like in every press conference,
in every interview,
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trying to fight in every game.
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I have absolutely no doubt
that Mourinho's role at Real Madrid
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was to "knock Barcelona
off their fucking perch",
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to use Ferguson's words.
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Mourinho's not stupid.
Mourinho's a great competitor.
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And you have to respect winners.
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But when winners start
losing and feel powerless,
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you better watch out ...
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because it's bound to kick off.
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Playing four Clásicos
in such a short period ...
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brought the tension to boiling point.
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It was tough because most
of us were Spain teammates,
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and the tensions spilled out onto the pitch.
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I found it all very tough indeed.
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We all lost our heads a bit.
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The games should have been
much more attractive,
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much better to watch,
and without so much aggression,
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but when you're competing
you get swept up in it,
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and the tension caused
constant fighting on the pitch.
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The day I remember that
they won the Cup in extra time,
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and Cristiano scored.
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We were a much better team
than them, but they won,
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and for us, it was like, "Whoa !"
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They had that moment where
they made us doubt ourselves
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because it was a really difficult moment.
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We thought we were the better
team and created more,
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but because of a marginal offside call,
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we ended up losing the cup final.
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And when you lose,
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not only do you feel angry,
but also doubts start to creep in.
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What we got on the pitch ...
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was a game where it really
could have gone either way.
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There's a goal from Pedro
ruled offside correctly,
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but, as Guardiola pointed out,
very fine the margin,
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which gave Mourinho the chance to say
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Guardiola was complaining about right decisions.
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He wasn't. He was pointing out
the margins were so fine ...
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that it could have gone the other way.
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After what Pep said the other day,
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we've entered into a new era.
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There's now a new group of managers
with just one member, him,
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a group that criticizes a referee
for getting decisions right.
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It's something nobody's ever
seen or heard of before.
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Mourinho was so provocative ...
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that even people at Barça
wanted a reaction from Guardiola ...
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because Mourinho was constantly
trying to pick a fight with Guardiola ...
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and Barça in general.
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That day at lunch we listened ...
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to the Real Madrid manager,
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and I noticed something change in Pep.
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I had a feeling that Pep
would do something uncharacteristic,
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and I think others felt it too,
because after training ...
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the director of football
came to the dressing room,
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which never happens.
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And I remember Zubizarreta said,
"Keep calm, Pep."
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And Pep told him he'd stay
calm and wouldn't react.
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But Pep was lying.
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I was in the press conference that day,
and we're sitting in the press room,
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and there's this moment
where everyone just goes,
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"Did he really say that?
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Bloody hell !"
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Yes? Yes.
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Pep Guardiola, good evening everyone.
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Mr. Mourinho addressed me by
first name, so I'll do the same.
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He called me Pep, so I'll call him José.
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I don't know which camera
belongs to Mr. José,
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probably all of them.
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Tomorrow at 20.45,
our teams go head-to-head on the pitch,
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but off the pitch, he's already won.
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He's won all year long
and he probably always will.
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I award him a Champions League
trophy for victories in the press room.
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In this room, he's the fucking boss,
the fucking chief.
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He knows it all and I don't even
want to try and compete with him.
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I only want to remind him we
worked together for four years.
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We were in the team hotel
watching that press conference.
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He gave us one more incentive
to go out and give 100%.
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When Guardiola returned,
we all started applauding him,
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and he just said, "That's enough.
Time to focus on the match."
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It really surprised us ...
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because nothing like that
had ever happened, but ...
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a line had been crossed.
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It was precisely the boost
we needed at that moment.
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Clásicos are already extremely tense,
but this one was worse.
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Doubts and fears were creeping into my mind.
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I'd known for over a month
that I needed surgery ...
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but we hadn't told anyone.
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It's impossible to keep
secrets in a dressing room.
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Everything always gets leaked.
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So I only told a couple
of my teammates the truth.
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When you go to a match feeling confident,
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everything is much easier,
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but I had a voice in my head
telling me to be careful,
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and that my knee could collapse at any moment.
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I had a big bit of cartilage
floating about inside.
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I could have easily collapsed
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when one of their players was running at me.
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I was very nervous.
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This was the moment we'd
either go down in history
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or be remembered as a good side
but not one of the greats.
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That's what was at stake
in the semi-finals against Madrid.
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Even though you know
that you are a better team,
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you always have that doubt,
and I remember Pep said to us,
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"We are a much better team.
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I will bring you to the final
of the Champions League."
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And it was like this.
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They were very well-organized,
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so it wasn't easy to create goal-scoring chances.
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And then Leo picked up the ball in midfield,
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and started that slalom run.
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It's just natural ability.
That's why he's the best in the world.
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Only Messi can do that.
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That goal is just incredible.
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Busi gives him the ball
and he skips past three or four,
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and then he scores with his right foot.
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It's one of the best
goals in football history.
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My assist practically put
the goal on a plate for him.
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No. The truth is ...
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we all know that the more
Leo is on the ball ...
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the better it is for all of us.
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You have a Madrid team
that's extremely defensive,
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with Pepe in the middle of midfield.
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A Madrid team that is very aggressive,
that is playing for nil-nil.
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Mourinho's argument has always been ...
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that until Pepe is sent off,
Madrid were succeeding in that.
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We will never know if Messi
would have scored his two goals ...
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without that sending off.
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At that moment, the red card
made absolutely no difference.
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Messi's unstoppable.
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It's natural talent that's only
given to the chosen ones.
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Maybe in 20 or 30 years,
there'll be another one,
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but right now it's Messi.
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I was in the room exactly a year
later when Pierluigi Collina,
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in his refereeing tutorial to the Spain squad,
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uses that Pepe incident
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to show them how the laws of the game
would be interpreted during Euro 2012.
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And the instant it comes up on the screen,
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the Spain squad is split
right down the middle again ...
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with Madrid players and Barça players
drowning him out, shouting at each other ...
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about whether it is or
isn't a red card offence.
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I told Collina, "Show something else !
That's not a good example to show us !"
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Yeah. Some of them still
said it wasn't a red card.
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And that Pepe didn't touch him.
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Incredible !
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I'm telling you it was a red card.
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They can say what they want.
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Fans want to see their team play well.
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They don't want a team that constantly fouls ...
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or defending with everyone behind the ball.
267
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But in the end, football always wins.
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After the second leg at the Camp Nou,
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we stayed on the pitch
celebrating for ten or 15 minutes,
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and we still had to play
the Champions League final.
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But with all due respect
to Manchester United,
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our biggest test that year
was beating Madrid in the semi-final.
273
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So they've beaten Real Madrid
in the semi-finals.
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They then dismantle Manchester United
in the Champions League final.
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And the instant outpouring of superlatives
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from all-time greats of the game
all around the world,
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I think, objectively marks this
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as the high point of
European club football. Ever.
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But the fact that Éric Abidal plays and wins,
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having already just beaten cancer
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turns this from a great sporting
story into a great human drama.
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That day wasn't about lifting
the Champions League trophy,
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we should have been lifting Abi.
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That was the real triumph.
285
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He was one of the great
characters in the dressing room ...
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and everybody loved him.
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Abidal !
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I remember two or three days
after we heard about the cancer,
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Abi came to see us.
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And he was the one who cheered us up.
291
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One of my teammates died
when I was at Sevilla,
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and I thought,
"I can't let this happen again.
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Not another one, please."
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The first time I wasn't able to help,
but this time, I could.
295
00:22:58,936 --> 00:23:03,496
And if there was a chance to save his life,
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my career was the last thing on my mind.
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Dani came to see me and said,
"Look Abi, we have the same blood type.
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I'm going to give you part of my liver."
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Everyone saw Dani in a
different light after that.
300
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It was a private matter,
which only came out ...
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because Abi told people.
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00:23:26,857 --> 00:23:29,537
But I'd never have forgiven
myself if he'd died ...
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and I'd done nothing to help.
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I couldn't let that happen.
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In the end, they found another solution,
but I don't regret making the offer.
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Days after his operation,
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he was back in the dressing room
and working out in the gym.
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He wanted to be back with
the group as soon as possible.
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We had no doubt he'd make a full recovery.
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Did you think you had a good
chance of playing at Wembley?
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No. I didn't even think
I had a ten percent chance.
312
00:24:07,461 --> 00:24:11,782
We needed to play the
strongest side possible,
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00:24:12,861 --> 00:24:15,301
and the strongest team
had to include Puyol.
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I wanted to play.
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00:24:17,701 --> 00:24:21,142
I always wanted to play,
but I was in a worse state than Abidal.
316
00:24:21,261 --> 00:24:24,140
And the most important thing was winning.
317
00:24:24,902 --> 00:24:27,502
The boss did something
he'd never done before,
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He announced the starting line-up
in the dressing room at Wembley ...
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just an hour before the game
in the Champions League Final.
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I was shitting myself,
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00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:42,983
thinking, "Bloody hell ! What's going on?"
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I wasn't fully match fit,
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00:24:46,502 --> 00:24:51,463
but there was a fire inside me,
which gave me that extra drive.
324
00:24:51,583 --> 00:24:54,783
And when you're on the pitch,
you're just thinking, "Let's do this."
325
00:25:00,385 --> 00:25:04,665
The Abidal situation was a
huge emotional boost for all of us.
326
00:25:06,144 --> 00:25:10,305
And he found strength
he didn't know he had ...
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00:25:10,426 --> 00:25:13,466
to play the way he did,
with the same composure as always.
328
00:25:14,104 --> 00:25:15,784
Abidal was an example to everyone.
329
00:25:18,865 --> 00:25:20,345
He showed such strength and determination ...
330
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and a will to overcome the cancer.
331
00:25:22,705 --> 00:25:25,225
And I decided that if we won that night,
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Abidal should be the first to lift the cup.
333
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It really is an incredible moment.
334
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I've been lucky enough to lift it twice,
335
00:25:34,465 --> 00:25:37,065
and it's a difficult feeling to describe.
336
00:25:38,348 --> 00:25:39,628
It was Puyi's decision.
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He'd had the disappointment
of not starting the game,
338
00:25:44,027 --> 00:25:48,348
and he maybe didn't feel
like a key member of the team,
339
00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:53,387
but despite that,
he decided Abidal should lift the cup.
340
00:25:54,667 --> 00:25:57,668
He said to me, "It's got to be Abidal."
341
00:25:58,309 --> 00:26:02,789
And I said, "Bloody hell, you're right.
Abi should lift it."
342
00:26:02,907 --> 00:26:05,067
Without any doubt, that moment was ...
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00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:08,189
the absolute highlight for us all.
344
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:11,110
To watch Abidal lift the trophy
was very special.
345
00:26:16,709 --> 00:26:18,309
I was with Víctor Valdés,
close to Abidal.
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00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:22,390
Watching Abidal lift the trophy
after the illness he'd been through,
347
00:26:22,509 --> 00:26:24,189
it still gives me goosebumps.
348
00:26:43,469 --> 00:26:45,029
I think it was the moment ...
349
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:53,550
that showed the strength of our group.
350
00:26:54,831 --> 00:26:57,112
We were much more than just teammates.
351
00:26:57,232 --> 00:27:00,872
They say that Barça is more than a club.
352
00:27:00,991 --> 00:27:03,631
At that moment, it was more than a club.
353
00:27:13,951 --> 00:27:16,352
I think that the story of this club,
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00:27:16,472 --> 00:27:21,272
obviously, you cannot understand
if you don't know the figure of Cruyff.
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00:27:21,392 --> 00:27:25,193
Firstly as a player, he was one
of the best players in history.
356
00:27:25,314 --> 00:27:26,594
I didn't watch him play,
357
00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:30,073
but my dad always said
incredible things about him.
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00:27:30,193 --> 00:27:32,353
He always says, "Messi and then Cruyff."
359
00:27:33,594 --> 00:27:35,394
When we were kids of ten or 11,
Cruyff signed for Barça
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00:27:35,475 --> 00:27:40,395
and we copied his hairstyle,
the way he ran and played football.
361
00:27:40,514 --> 00:27:42,834
He inspired a revolution in 1973/74.
362
00:28:06,915 --> 00:28:11,995
He comes here with the advantage
of having a good reputation as a player.
363
00:28:12,116 --> 00:28:16,076
He has a philosophy which is contrary to many.
364
00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,956
He would prefer to fail with his ideas ...
365
00:28:18,077 --> 00:28:20,557
than to succeed with the ideas of someone else.
366
00:28:20,677 --> 00:28:23,998
Players go for these kind of things,
for this kind of charisma.
367
00:28:26,517 --> 00:28:31,438
I played with him here for five years
and when we took over the team,
368
00:28:31,557 --> 00:28:35,917
we wanted to play a
different brand of football.
369
00:28:36,038 --> 00:28:41,159
And it caused shock waves around the world.
370
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,079
Everyone played with a 4-4-2 formation,
371
00:28:44,199 --> 00:28:50,079
and we played with three defenders,
four midfielders and three in attack.
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00:28:51,639 --> 00:28:53,559
People would say,
"They've only got three defenders !"
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00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,440
It was a 3-4-3.
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00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,638
They'd say, "It's madness.
We'll concede loads of goals !"
375
00:28:58,758 --> 00:29:01,599
But Johan preferred winning 6-5 to winning 1-0.
376
00:29:01,719 --> 00:29:05,639
I was really lucky because
I was six, seven, eight years old.
377
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,919
I watched the first Copa de Europa,
European Championships.
378
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:10,320
We were a really good team,
379
00:29:10,439 --> 00:29:14,039
always playing really well,
but we'd never won nothing important.
380
00:29:14,161 --> 00:29:16,921
But when he arrived,
he changed this mentality,
381
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,961
and we started to win important
things and important titles.
382
00:29:46,561 --> 00:29:50,602
Cruyff is the most influential person
in the entire history of FC Barcelona.
383
00:29:51,003 --> 00:29:54,762
Our style of play is
the most important thing.
384
00:29:54,882 --> 00:29:56,482
Then come the players.
385
00:29:56,601 --> 00:29:59,842
But what really draws you in
and what sets the club apart ...
386
00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:02,884
is that Barça play a
unique brand of football.
387
00:30:04,522 --> 00:30:07,082
It all started a very long time
ago during Cruyff's spell at the club.
388
00:30:07,204 --> 00:30:12,005
Since then we've always
played the same way,
389
00:30:12,122 --> 00:30:16,762
holding onto possession,
390
00:30:17,725 --> 00:30:21,565
and passing in triangles,
391
00:30:21,684 --> 00:30:23,924
pressing the moment we lose the ball,
392
00:30:24,044 --> 00:30:29,325
staying close together so we can
recover possession and then keep it.
393
00:30:30,805 --> 00:30:31,845
Over time you realize,
394
00:30:31,964 --> 00:30:35,244
that it's because of Cruyff's influence
that by the age of 21,
395
00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:39,007
it felt normal to come off my line
and play further up the pitch,
396
00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:41,125
outside the penalty area.
397
00:30:41,246 --> 00:30:46,727
You come to realize that
all of us, me, Xavi, Iniesta ...
398
00:30:46,847 --> 00:30:51,606
We've all grown up adopting
Johan's philosophy.
399
00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:55,446
You know, it's an immense honor, or pride,
400
00:30:55,567 --> 00:30:57,208
to see that this is still going this way
401
00:30:57,326 --> 00:30:59,766
and my father is mentioned
like the architect.
402
00:31:05,608 --> 00:31:11,288
I think it's a process that began
in the 1970s with Laureano Ruiz.
403
00:31:11,408 --> 00:31:13,848
I experienced that here as a player.
404
00:31:14,447 --> 00:31:17,048
I was then a coach here when the
second big change took place ...
405
00:31:17,168 --> 00:31:19,048
when Johan Cruyff arrived as manager.
406
00:31:19,168 --> 00:31:20,568
He changed our mentality.
407
00:31:20,687 --> 00:31:26,288
He turned us into winners
and taught us to be confident,
408
00:31:26,409 --> 00:31:30,089
to want the ball and be creative,
and to enjoy ourselves.
409
00:31:30,209 --> 00:31:32,889
And our third big change was with Pep,
410
00:31:33,008 --> 00:31:34,929
who took it to another level.
411
00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:40,330
Cruyff's arrival was key
because he imposed his ideas.
412
00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:46,210
His advantage was that the players ...
413
00:31:46,330 --> 00:31:49,330
already understood this style
because they'd worked under me.
414
00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:53,731
I invented the Rondo.
415
00:31:53,849 --> 00:31:56,449
The ideal Rondo is four against two.
416
00:31:57,051 --> 00:32:00,971
You need to move constantly to find space.
417
00:32:01,089 --> 00:32:03,049
The player with the ball ...
418
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:05,811
must have the option
of a pass to his right,
419
00:32:05,931 --> 00:32:09,411
another to this left,
and another through the middle,
420
00:32:09,531 --> 00:32:11,571
which I call the pass down the street.
421
00:32:11,692 --> 00:32:13,333
So in a match that becomes ...
422
00:32:13,451 --> 00:32:18,451
a sideways pass to feet or a through ball.
423
00:32:18,971 --> 00:32:21,971
So it's a very important tactical exercise.
424
00:32:22,372 --> 00:32:25,613
Barcelona always train in tight spaces.
425
00:32:25,733 --> 00:32:30,333
If the ball doesn't stay by your foot,
it's gone, in training.
426
00:32:30,453 --> 00:32:33,734
That's why, after, when you drop
those guys on the big field,
427
00:32:34,293 --> 00:32:36,493
they play as if they were in tight places.
428
00:32:37,893 --> 00:32:41,612
If you pass, the player marking
you doesn't have time to catch you.
429
00:32:42,214 --> 00:32:45,214
When he gets to you, it's always too late.
430
00:32:45,333 --> 00:32:50,293
That's how you take control.
431
00:32:57,213 --> 00:32:59,293
The ball is fired at
you from every direction.
432
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:03,934
And the light shows you
where to pass the ball.
433
00:33:04,054 --> 00:33:08,374
So if the light comes on over there,
I have to be in the right position.
434
00:33:08,495 --> 00:33:12,176
Left foot control, right foot pass.
As few touches as possible.
435
00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:13,614
It's the role of a midfielder.
436
00:33:25,897 --> 00:33:28,177
You're being marked and pressed.
437
00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:30,498
You have to get your head up
and find the solution.
438
00:33:31,017 --> 00:33:33,377
I learned all of that
from the age of 11 or 12 ...
439
00:33:33,817 --> 00:33:40,057
because I had fantastic coaches at Barça
like Joan Vilà and Albert Benaiges.
440
00:33:41,177 --> 00:33:43,137
My son plays for the youth team,
441
00:33:43,258 --> 00:33:46,258
and you get to realize as a parent,
as well,
442
00:33:46,378 --> 00:33:47,938
what the club teaches.
443
00:33:48,056 --> 00:33:52,137
It's not only about how they play
and how successful that you can be.
444
00:33:52,257 --> 00:33:55,617
It's how you conduct yourself,
how to be a Barça player,
445
00:33:55,737 --> 00:34:00,258
how to live like a Barça player,
how to respect what it means.
446
00:34:02,298 --> 00:34:05,738
Having well brought up, polite kids,
with good values ...
447
00:34:05,858 --> 00:34:07,818
makes everything much easier.
448
00:34:07,937 --> 00:34:11,338
Just look at the squad
we've got at the moment.
449
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:13,260
They're all exceptional people.
450
00:34:15,099 --> 00:34:20,020
We were lucky to have a generation
of players who came from La Masia,
451
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:26,140
like Xavi, Iniesta, Piqué, Puyol,
Valdés, Pedro, Leo, Busquets.
452
00:34:26,259 --> 00:34:28,860
They all achieved huge
success in the first team.
453
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:35,500
Tell me a team, apart maybe from Ajax,
that dominated world football ...
454
00:34:35,619 --> 00:34:40,580
having that amount of youngsters
from the academy in their team.
455
00:34:40,701 --> 00:34:43,741
There's a reason why youth
players at Barcelona ...
456
00:34:43,859 --> 00:34:46,940
are the ones who best adjust
to the first team at Barcelona.
457
00:34:47,062 --> 00:34:48,382
It's not a coincidence.
458
00:34:48,501 --> 00:34:51,341
It's not because they work
with special machines ...
459
00:34:51,461 --> 00:34:52,861
that no other club has.
460
00:34:52,981 --> 00:34:55,381
It has to do with the way
they're brought up,
461
00:34:55,501 --> 00:34:57,342
the values, their football values.
462
00:34:57,463 --> 00:35:01,023
What is the real essence of our football?
463
00:35:01,142 --> 00:35:03,062
Is it the result or is it how we play?
464
00:35:03,182 --> 00:35:04,342
It's how we play.
465
00:35:04,461 --> 00:35:07,422
And then, if you do that good,
the results will come.
466
00:35:07,544 --> 00:35:09,144
We came here to play football.
467
00:35:09,263 --> 00:35:14,383
People realized that we were
different and that we had talent.
468
00:35:14,502 --> 00:35:17,903
We were given the chance
to develop from junior level ...
469
00:35:18,025 --> 00:35:19,665
through to the first team.
470
00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:22,744
It's a different way
of understanding football,
471
00:35:22,864 --> 00:35:27,544
which gives you a better chance of success.
472
00:35:28,583 --> 00:35:30,623
When I joined Barcelona,
473
00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:31,824
the media asked me ...
474
00:35:31,943 --> 00:35:34,583
which player had surprised me most,
475
00:35:34,703 --> 00:35:37,224
and I said, Andrés Iniesta,
476
00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:39,464
which surprised them ...
477
00:35:39,943 --> 00:35:44,784
because they all wanted me
to say Messi or Ronaldinho.
478
00:35:44,905 --> 00:35:50,985
But the player who makes
difficult things look easy is Andrés.
479
00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,585
I'd want Andrés and Xavi ...
480
00:35:55,305 --> 00:36:00,025
in my team until the day they retire.
481
00:36:02,865 --> 00:36:05,986
Barça's style of football is
different to any team in the world.
482
00:36:06,107 --> 00:36:11,907
At Barça, there is a very
specific way you have to play.
483
00:36:12,027 --> 00:36:16,268
You can't just boot the ball clear.
484
00:36:16,388 --> 00:36:22,747
Defenders have to control the ball,
dribble and make the right pass.
485
00:36:22,866 --> 00:36:24,027
It's not easy.
486
00:36:24,147 --> 00:36:27,387
In the Premier League or at Real Madrid,
you clear the ball.
487
00:36:27,507 --> 00:36:30,027
And that isn't a problem at most other clubs.
488
00:36:30,147 --> 00:36:33,788
But at Barça that's not enough.
You have to do a lot more.
489
00:36:36,149 --> 00:36:37,749
It's a unique philosophy.
490
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:44,830
And that's why it's so
difficult for new players ...
491
00:36:44,949 --> 00:36:47,269
to adapt to our style of play.
492
00:36:47,389 --> 00:36:52,670
It might look easy but it's something
we've been practicing for years.
493
00:36:52,789 --> 00:36:58,349
Most of us have been playing
this way since we were kids.
494
00:36:58,469 --> 00:37:01,870
Playing for Barça isn't easy.
495
00:37:01,991 --> 00:37:04,511
You see all these players
that are here for a long time.
496
00:37:04,591 --> 00:37:08,191
They come through the youth system
and walk into the first team,
497
00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:10,949
and it's as if they've been there
for many, many years.
498
00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,311
Coming here wasn't so easy
499
00:37:12,432 --> 00:37:15,152
because there are certain
elements of the game ...
500
00:37:15,272 --> 00:37:17,551
that you haven't been taught.
501
00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:20,030
You see players ...
502
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:24,511
I could tell you a few
names but I'm not allowed.
503
00:37:24,632 --> 00:37:28,752
But world-class, spectacular footballers,
504
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:30,711
who were completely lost.
505
00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:32,312
They ended up in hysterics.
506
00:37:32,433 --> 00:37:35,353
It was more the style of play
that I had to adapt to.
507
00:37:35,472 --> 00:37:41,313
Staying on the line to make sure
that you can free Andrés,
508
00:37:41,432 --> 00:37:42,792
make the run in behind,
509
00:37:42,913 --> 00:37:46,113
knowing that nine times
or eight times out of ten,
510
00:37:46,232 --> 00:37:47,632
you will not get that ball.
511
00:37:47,753 --> 00:37:50,794
But if you don't make the run,
Andrés doesn't get the ball.
512
00:37:56,633 --> 00:38:00,994
My first move when Abidal had the ball
and he's about to control it,
513
00:38:01,115 --> 00:38:02,955
I always have to ask for the ball in behind.
514
00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:06,313
Every single time. It's a dummy run.
515
00:38:08,075 --> 00:38:13,555
Now Andrés gets the ball,
Sam now makes a run for Andrés,
516
00:38:13,674 --> 00:38:15,434
so Andrés can play him there,
517
00:38:15,554 --> 00:38:19,035
Andrés can play me as I come back
from an offside position,
518
00:38:19,435 --> 00:38:23,235
Or, if not, third choice,
Andrés skills you by his dribble.
519
00:38:23,355 --> 00:38:25,635
You have a guy dropping, a guy running
520
00:38:25,755 --> 00:38:27,915
and a guy with the ball
running at you, so,
521
00:38:28,036 --> 00:38:30,237
by the time you stop
to realize what's happening,
522
00:38:30,354 --> 00:38:31,834
you're already in trouble.
523
00:38:36,396 --> 00:38:39,917
Some guys managed to get it in the end
like Thierry Henry and Abidal,
524
00:38:40,035 --> 00:38:41,555
who both struggled at the start.
525
00:38:41,676 --> 00:38:45,996
But some other really talented
players just didn't make it.
526
00:38:47,276 --> 00:38:48,757
I missed my chance.
527
00:38:48,877 --> 00:38:54,117
I was full of this fire,
of this desire to, you know, to play
528
00:38:54,237 --> 00:38:55,957
and sometimes it was like ...
529
00:38:56,078 --> 00:39:00,559
I mean, I just wanted to
immediately show what I can.
530
00:39:00,677 --> 00:39:03,677
And sometimes it was against me.
531
00:39:05,999 --> 00:39:07,879
Barça is a hard team to play for,
particularly at center-back.
532
00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:11,797
If you make a couple of early mistakes,
the fans get on your back,
533
00:39:11,918 --> 00:39:15,038
and the pressure really builds.
534
00:39:15,437 --> 00:39:21,198
But Chygrynskiy's qualities
were perfect for Barça.
535
00:39:22,878 --> 00:39:28,319
To turn the crowd around is not easy,
especially at Barcelona.
536
00:39:28,439 --> 00:39:33,679
I think it was Xavi who said,
"This is a very special place.
537
00:39:33,798 --> 00:39:36,119
I've played here for many years,
538
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,079
but believe me,
if I play one or two games not good,
539
00:39:39,721 --> 00:39:42,601
these people can destroy me."
540
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:48,321
I got it as a joke
but then I felt that it ...
541
00:39:48,441 --> 00:39:51,761
That it was not.
542
00:39:54,881 --> 00:39:56,722
Despite being a home-grown player,
I've suffered things
543
00:39:56,843 --> 00:39:57,963
that crossed the line.
544
00:39:58,082 --> 00:40:00,922
In 2003, I was the "Cancer of Barça."
545
00:40:01,041 --> 00:40:04,440
In 2014, I was "old and good for nothing."
546
00:40:05,082 --> 00:40:06,362
It's a roller coaster.
547
00:40:06,481 --> 00:40:10,841
Barça is the most difficult club in the world.
548
00:40:10,961 --> 00:40:12,001
No doubt about it.
549
00:40:12,122 --> 00:40:16,443
Imagine for a new signing.
It must be twice as difficult.
550
00:40:16,562 --> 00:40:19,162
I felt this difference,
that I needed to learn
551
00:40:19,281 --> 00:40:21,361
this language of football,
552
00:40:22,523 --> 00:40:24,684
how to create space, how to defend,
553
00:40:24,804 --> 00:40:28,924
and all the things that the
players were already playing.
554
00:40:32,322 --> 00:40:34,203
We played a game against Osasuna ...
555
00:40:34,324 --> 00:40:39,204
and Osasuna were not defending well that area.
556
00:40:39,323 --> 00:40:41,563
The guy there was not tucking in well.
557
00:40:42,645 --> 00:40:46,686
So that day Chygrynskiy played
because he had a great left foot.
558
00:40:46,804 --> 00:40:49,164
He could ping the ball well
with his left and right foot.
559
00:40:49,284 --> 00:40:50,524
But an amazing left foot.
560
00:40:50,645 --> 00:40:53,926
We were going to always play
in the center back ...
561
00:40:54,046 --> 00:40:57,125
that was going to play across for Xavi.
562
00:40:57,244 --> 00:41:00,044
Whenever we were moving,
Xavi stayed in that zone.
563
00:41:00,965 --> 00:41:02,526
So that was the exit.
564
00:41:02,645 --> 00:41:04,205
But what was funny that day
565
00:41:04,325 --> 00:41:08,965
is that Chygrynskiy twice
played the ball long for Zlatan.
566
00:41:09,085 --> 00:41:10,085
And it was on.
567
00:41:10,204 --> 00:41:12,525
Zlatan nearly went one v one with the keeper.
568
00:41:15,085 --> 00:41:17,045
Pep took him off at half-time ...
569
00:41:19,526 --> 00:41:21,847
because he didn't respect the pattern.
570
00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:27,047
That's the way he studied that team
and that's the way he asked us to play.
571
00:41:27,167 --> 00:41:31,648
The vocabulary of Guardiola or my father
is building up from behind,
572
00:41:31,767 --> 00:41:32,767
possession,
573
00:41:33,728 --> 00:41:37,248
the speed of the ball is more important
than the speed of the legs,
574
00:41:37,847 --> 00:41:41,488
always play attractive football
to keep your fans happy.
575
00:41:41,808 --> 00:41:44,048
I mean, there are so many similarities.
576
00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:45,929
When you play for Barcelona
577
00:41:46,047 --> 00:41:47,687
and especially after Guardiola came,
578
00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:52,008
that's where you really learn
how to play the Barcelona way.
579
00:41:52,128 --> 00:41:56,928
It's 11, not just the strikers
or not just the midfielders.
580
00:41:57,049 --> 00:42:00,850
The 11 players have to participate
to create the chance.
581
00:42:00,968 --> 00:42:06,008
Basically, what we want to do
is try to put the ball to the strikers ...
582
00:42:06,128 --> 00:42:09,288
with a really good pass,
so that they can have one on one.
583
00:42:09,409 --> 00:42:12,610
But obviously if you pass them a long ball ...
584
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:16,090
that's not really easy to control,
585
00:42:16,209 --> 00:42:18,929
the striker will not do his job.
586
00:42:19,048 --> 00:42:22,969
It's all about starting from the back,
to the strikers.
587
00:42:25,811 --> 00:42:27,811
Pep took risks all over the pitch.
588
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:33,371
I think he made two great
innovations as our coach,
589
00:42:33,931 --> 00:42:36,211
One was pressing after losing the ball
590
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,851
and the other was playing out from the back.
591
00:42:45,092 --> 00:42:47,171
I remember my first conversation
with Guardiola as coach.
592
00:42:47,292 --> 00:42:49,853
It was in his office at the Camp Nou.
593
00:42:50,412 --> 00:42:54,372
He had a tactics board
with two small magnets ...
594
00:42:54,491 --> 00:42:59,132
either side of the goal,
just outside of the box.
595
00:42:59,252 --> 00:43:02,092
He said, "Do you know
which players these two are?"
596
00:43:02,733 --> 00:43:04,933
I said, "Nope."
597
00:43:05,053 --> 00:43:07,534
And he said,
"These are your center-backs."
598
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:12,533
I had no idea what he was talking about.
It sounded Chinese.
599
00:43:12,654 --> 00:43:18,895
And he said, "When you've got the ball,
this is where I want them to be."
600
00:43:20,494 --> 00:43:23,054
I thought he was crazy.
601
00:43:23,814 --> 00:43:29,695
And then he said, "You'll pass to them,
and from there we'll build the play."
602
00:43:29,814 --> 00:43:33,334
I still thought he was completely mad,
603
00:43:33,455 --> 00:43:37,216
but given that I'm a bit crazy myself,
I felt in tune with him.
604
00:43:37,336 --> 00:43:39,976
So I told him the defenders
would have to be brave ...
605
00:43:40,095 --> 00:43:43,094
and want the ball.
606
00:43:43,216 --> 00:43:46,457
And Pep said, "Don't worry, that's my job.
607
00:43:46,576 --> 00:43:48,096
I'll make sure they want it."
608
00:43:48,576 --> 00:43:49,856
That's how it started.
609
00:43:52,415 --> 00:43:58,376
Both Pep and Tito took
this idea one step further.
610
00:43:59,017 --> 00:44:04,897
They told us not to worry ...
611
00:44:05,016 --> 00:44:06,537
because if we made a mistake,
612
00:44:06,657 --> 00:44:08,497
they would take responsibility.
613
00:44:08,618 --> 00:44:11,058
All they asked was that we play
the ball out from the back ...
614
00:44:11,178 --> 00:44:17,699
because that was the way
Barça had to play football.
615
00:44:20,577 --> 00:44:24,017
He would show us how he wanted us
to play the ball out from the back.
616
00:44:24,138 --> 00:44:26,099
He said that by doing this, we'd score.
617
00:44:26,217 --> 00:44:29,177
So why would I stop playing that
Way if I made a mistake?
618
00:44:29,299 --> 00:44:32,859
We both knew that it was risky.
619
00:44:32,979 --> 00:44:36,780
But he would say,
"Don't worry if you make a mistake.
620
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,779
Just keep playing exactly the same way."
621
00:44:59,701 --> 00:45:02,781
We believe it's about
much more than just winning.
622
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,741
The message isn't "win, win, win".
623
00:45:05,861 --> 00:45:07,621
Winning is a result of how you play.
624
00:45:07,741 --> 00:45:09,701
The philosophy is the most important thing.
625
00:45:10,181 --> 00:45:13,342
You know you've done something
when people just want to watch you play.
626
00:45:13,422 --> 00:45:14,422
Not win.
627
00:45:15,222 --> 00:45:19,222
When you talk about Barcelona,
you're talking about the way they play,
628
00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:20,900
the beauty of the game.
629
00:45:28,022 --> 00:45:31,742
You go home and you go like,
"You should watch the second goal ...
630
00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:34,382
and, by the way, they won."
631
00:45:45,863 --> 00:45:49,743
There was a sign on the door
of the coaches' room, which said,
632
00:45:49,862 --> 00:45:56,223
"If you're offering us a youth player
who's less than 1.8 meters tall,
633
00:45:56,344 --> 00:45:57,624
turn around and go home."
634
00:45:57,743 --> 00:46:02,104
It was Cruyff who changed that,
when he returned as manager.
635
00:46:02,224 --> 00:46:08,384
He believed that talent was the key
and height was irrelevant.
636
00:46:12,225 --> 00:46:13,505
From then on, players were judged
only on their quality.
637
00:46:13,625 --> 00:46:17,425
Is he good or not?
Regardless of their height.
638
00:46:17,545 --> 00:46:21,066
Look at Jordi, Xavi, Messi and Andrés.
639
00:46:21,187 --> 00:46:25,387
On top of each other they barely reach
normal height. They're all tiny !
640
00:46:26,946 --> 00:46:30,346
Small players have enormous
advantages over big players.
641
00:46:30,466 --> 00:46:33,466
They can start, stop and turn quicker.
642
00:46:33,587 --> 00:46:35,467
The best players are all small.
643
00:46:36,387 --> 00:46:38,827
Messi has given a lot of people,
644
00:46:38,947 --> 00:46:42,428
a lot of young football dreamers,
a whole new hope.
645
00:46:43,026 --> 00:46:44,906
It's not about the 1 meter 80.
646
00:46:45,746 --> 00:46:47,586
It's much more than that.
647
00:46:48,106 --> 00:46:49,427
It's intelligence.
648
00:46:49,547 --> 00:46:52,107
In the end,
if the brain is faster than the ball,
649
00:46:53,828 --> 00:46:54,948
you dominate.
650
00:47:03,867 --> 00:47:06,627
One of my friends worked
in the youth academy,
651
00:47:07,269 --> 00:47:10,230
when Messi was 14 or 15.
652
00:47:10,349 --> 00:47:14,589
I always asked about the kids,
which of them looked special,
653
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:17,590
who was likely to make it
and reach the first team.
654
00:47:18,269 --> 00:47:21,029
He said to me,
"There's this kid from Argentina,
655
00:47:21,149 --> 00:47:24,628
and I've never seen anyone
with the talent he's got."
656
00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:28,431
When Messi started training with
us at the age of 16,
657
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:31,110
we all realized he was special.
658
00:47:58,672 --> 00:48:04,032
I had a big network of scouts in South America.
659
00:48:04,151 --> 00:48:09,312
One of them told me there was a kid in Rosario.
660
00:48:09,433 --> 00:48:13,873
He was only 12 years old but he was unique.
661
00:48:13,992 --> 00:48:18,673
Nowadays, clubs invest in youngsters,
but it didn't happen back then.
662
00:48:18,793 --> 00:48:23,713
It wasn't easy, but Charly Rexach helped
and we decided to bring him over.
663
00:48:24,432 --> 00:48:26,673
Nobody wanted to take a risk on me.
664
00:48:27,753 --> 00:48:31,833
It was a big gamble to sign
such a small kid from abroad,
665
00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:35,354
and bring him to Barcelona.
666
00:48:35,915 --> 00:48:40,675
It was Charly Rexach who made it happen.
667
00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:44,996
He came to watch me play and told me
that Barça definitely wanted me.
668
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:49,236
It was thanks to him and the coaches
who wanted to sign me,
669
00:48:49,355 --> 00:48:51,995
although there were some who didn't.
670
00:48:52,115 --> 00:48:58,476
But mainly it's thanks to Charly
that I signed for Barça.
671
00:49:00,235 --> 00:49:01,915
I've always said it was an honor
to have brought Messi to this club.
672
00:49:02,036 --> 00:49:04,637
My small part in Messi's arrival
673
00:49:04,757 --> 00:49:08,557
was that I kept nagging until we signed him.
674
00:49:08,957 --> 00:49:11,717
If you went to the board back then,
675
00:49:11,837 --> 00:49:15,517
and told them that we needed
to sign a 12-year-old kid,
676
00:49:15,635 --> 00:49:17,875
their first reaction was,
677
00:49:17,996 --> 00:49:20,876
"Let's talk again in eight years."
678
00:49:20,996 --> 00:49:22,957
But I said, "No. We have to sign him.
679
00:49:23,556 --> 00:49:28,476
He's very good,
and one day, he'll be incredible."
680
00:49:28,596 --> 00:49:31,436
That was my success. I insisted on it.
681
00:49:31,558 --> 00:49:36,679
Even back then, it was already obvious
that Messi was out of this world.
682
00:49:40,198 --> 00:49:42,919
So I told Rexach that I
needed something in writing.
683
00:49:43,038 --> 00:49:44,998
His parents had been here a month,
684
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:49,959
and I kept reassuring them,
but there was no official agreement.
685
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,560
We were at the Pompeia Tennis Club on Montjuic,
686
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:58,479
and there were napkins on the table,
so Rexach took one and wrote,
687
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,560
"I, Carles Rexach,
advisor to the president,
688
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,719
confirm that Leo Messi has the
qualities to sign for FC Barcelona."
689
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,560
He signed it and then I signed it.
690
00:50:07,681 --> 00:50:09,560
We still have the napkin stored in the bank ...
691
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,481
because it's delicate
and it needs looking after.
692
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
By signing the napkin,
I wanted to show Messi's family ...
693
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:21,880
that I was committed to
signing him for FC Barcelona.
694
00:50:23,361 --> 00:50:26,601
I think Barcelona and Messi just ...
It was destined.
695
00:50:26,721 --> 00:50:28,601
It just had to be this way.
696
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,601
He came to the best club
that he could have.
697
00:50:53,244 --> 00:50:55,084
It was difficult at first.
698
00:50:55,843 --> 00:51:00,444
I was very young and everything was new.
699
00:51:00,565 --> 00:51:04,604
I'd left behind family members,
friends, my country.
700
00:51:04,722 --> 00:51:11,003
It was tough to start with,
but I managed to settle in.
701
00:51:11,125 --> 00:51:13,565
Most of us knew
that a phenomenon was coming.
702
00:51:13,684 --> 00:51:16,004
But the Gamper tournament was the proof.
703
00:51:16,124 --> 00:51:17,284
It was the first night,
704
00:51:17,403 --> 00:51:19,204
of which there have been so many since,
705
00:51:19,325 --> 00:51:24,125
when 99,000 lucky people at
the Camp Nou simply paid homage ...
706
00:51:24,244 --> 00:51:27,284
to something more exciting, more uplifting ...
707
00:51:27,404 --> 00:51:29,285
than they'd ever witnessed before.
708
00:51:29,965 --> 00:51:33,565
I was there that night and
the effect was spine-tingling.
709
00:51:43,165 --> 00:51:44,765
It was a very special day,
710
00:51:44,886 --> 00:51:49,567
and I loved every minute.
711
00:51:50,286 --> 00:51:52,846
It was the Gamper tournament,
712
00:51:52,966 --> 00:51:58,487
and I was in the starting XI.
713
00:51:59,608 --> 00:52:04,367
It was a huge moment for me
because after that game,
714
00:52:04,487 --> 00:52:07,408
everything changed.
715
00:52:07,527 --> 00:52:10,927
That's where it all started.
716
00:52:13,327 --> 00:52:16,928
I remember telling Patrick
Vieira before that match ...
717
00:52:17,049 --> 00:52:22,329
to be very careful because he
was up against a young kid ...
718
00:52:22,449 --> 00:52:25,009
who would change history.
719
00:52:25,128 --> 00:52:29,569
One day, it would seem like every
player who came before Messi, even me,
720
00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:31,930
were playing a different sport.
721
00:52:33,329 --> 00:52:35,489
It was incredible what this kid was doing ...
722
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:39,290
against the likes of Vieira,
a first team player at Juve.
723
00:52:39,931 --> 00:52:44,451
He was drifting past big,
physical players.
724
00:52:44,570 --> 00:52:46,811
Messi just did whatever he wanted.
725
00:52:46,930 --> 00:52:51,250
And Capello asked if
he could take him on loan.
726
00:52:59,730 --> 00:53:01,090
Capello's no fool !
727
00:53:02,331 --> 00:53:04,171
Initially, I didn't know
anything about Messi.
728
00:53:04,290 --> 00:53:08,491
Only that he was going to play.
729
00:53:08,612 --> 00:53:10,852
I saw that he was just a young kid,
730
00:53:10,971 --> 00:53:16,212
but when the game started,
he began doing incredible things.
731
00:53:16,332 --> 00:53:19,452
Rijkaard was the Barcelona coach back then.
732
00:53:20,532 --> 00:53:24,973
It was the Gamper trophy,
a friendly match.
733
00:53:25,092 --> 00:53:28,652
The referee wasn't that strict
and we could move about,
734
00:53:28,772 --> 00:53:31,012
so I walked over to Rijkaard,
735
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:37,454
and asked if I could take Messi on loan.
736
00:53:37,573 --> 00:53:41,413
You weren't allowed as many
foreigners in your team back then.
737
00:53:41,534 --> 00:53:44,375
I said, "You've already got
three foreign players.
738
00:53:44,494 --> 00:53:46,614
There's no place for him".
739
00:53:46,735 --> 00:53:52,254
But Rijkaard said that they were
already looking for a solution,
740
00:53:52,373 --> 00:53:58,614
and Messi would be a regular
in the team very soon.
741
00:53:59,214 --> 00:54:00,214
It's just ...
742
00:54:02,175 --> 00:54:03,215
How do you describe it?
743
00:54:03,294 --> 00:54:07,374
Basically everyone knew this guy is
going to be the best in the world.
744
00:54:07,454 --> 00:54:09,214
And there was no doubt about it.
745
00:54:34,298 --> 00:54:35,418
I knew about his goal scoring ability,
746
00:54:35,857 --> 00:54:39,457
and fortunately, Guardiola
put him in that false nine position.
747
00:54:39,578 --> 00:54:42,179
It meant that alongside
Eto'o and the other strikers,
748
00:54:42,298 --> 00:54:46,417
he had more freedom in attack.
749
00:54:47,018 --> 00:54:53,019
That tactical change
was a huge benefit to him.
750
00:55:17,381 --> 00:55:19,902
It's very difficult to pick Leo's best goal.
751
00:55:20,021 --> 00:55:23,541
The one he scored against Getafe comes to mind.
752
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:26,540
When you see what he produces day in day out,
753
00:55:26,659 --> 00:55:28,459
it's impossible to choose one goal.
754
00:55:39,061 --> 00:55:41,980
They were just flashes of Maradona against England.
755
00:55:42,582 --> 00:55:45,302
And I knew at that time,
756
00:55:45,421 --> 00:55:49,262
right in the moment that I've witnessed
something incredible here.
757
00:55:49,381 --> 00:55:52,181
It's one of his great goals,
probably one of the greatest,
758
00:55:52,301 --> 00:55:55,181
but if you get a video of his goals,
759
00:55:56,341 --> 00:56:02,142
he's probably scored another 50 like it,
which makes him exceptional.
760
00:56:11,144 --> 00:56:16,864
One of my favorites is the goal
he scored against Arsenal.
761
00:56:17,304 --> 00:56:20,424
It was like watching someone on the PlayStation.
762
00:56:20,543 --> 00:56:27,104
He flicks it over Almunia
at the last second and then scores.
763
00:56:35,584 --> 00:56:37,184
I love it because of that skill.
764
00:56:37,305 --> 00:56:40,505
Any other player would smash
it into the net first time,
765
00:56:40,623 --> 00:56:45,904
but he had the composure
to flick the ball up and then finish.
766
00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:49,547
The best goal I've seen him score
was against Málaga at home ...
767
00:56:49,905 --> 00:56:52,185
because that defied logic what he did.
768
00:56:53,504 --> 00:56:56,385
Diagonal ball,
controlled the ball on his chest,
769
00:56:57,147 --> 00:56:58,747
he runs full speed.
770
00:57:00,466 --> 00:57:03,746
The first player goes,
the second player's just behind him.
771
00:57:05,667 --> 00:57:08,947
If he takes another step
that player will clear the ball.
772
00:57:09,068 --> 00:57:11,908
OK, if you stop the ball
on your left foot here,
773
00:57:13,187 --> 00:57:18,028
how do you go back with that same leg
to touch the ball in the air,
774
00:57:18,947 --> 00:57:20,947
to make sure that guy doesn't touch it?
775
00:57:21,067 --> 00:57:22,507
Then he almost fell.
776
00:57:22,628 --> 00:57:25,549
He almost fell and smashed it
to first post, top corner.
777
00:57:26,627 --> 00:57:27,787
That's not normal.
778
00:57:33,467 --> 00:57:35,188
Regardless of the fact that he's Messi,
in training, he wants to win.
779
00:57:35,308 --> 00:57:39,308
He'll get annoyed
if he doesn't get the ball ...
780
00:57:39,429 --> 00:57:41,509
and angry if he's fouled.
781
00:57:41,628 --> 00:57:44,549
And that tells you a lot
about a champion like him.
782
00:57:44,670 --> 00:57:49,110
In training, if the boss
doesn't call a foul or whatever,
783
00:57:49,228 --> 00:57:53,429
he used to go and ask,
"It's not a foul? OK."
784
00:57:53,549 --> 00:57:57,749
He used to go and get the ball,
run past everyone, score.
785
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:59,950
Now you get the ball, you try to go,
786
00:58:00,071 --> 00:58:02,912
he runs after you,
gets the ball back, scores,
787
00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:07,711
until he gets in a normal
state again and he relaxes.
788
00:58:07,831 --> 00:58:09,431
Next thing you know you're 3-1 down.
789
00:58:09,830 --> 00:58:13,231
He's a player who's different from the rest.
790
00:58:13,831 --> 00:58:16,031
He's very talented and earns lots of money,
791
00:58:16,152 --> 00:58:21,672
but when you meet him
it's like he isn't a star at all.
792
00:58:25,111 --> 00:58:31,030
I've known him for ten or 12 years
and he's not the most outgoing person ...
793
00:58:31,151 --> 00:58:35,032
but he's just a normal, humble guy.
794
00:58:35,151 --> 00:58:36,911
He's very quiet,
795
00:58:37,032 --> 00:58:40,672
but when his feet do the talking,
he's unique.
796
00:58:40,792 --> 00:58:42,553
He's an absolute winner.
797
00:58:42,672 --> 00:58:47,032
He has the desire to always be
the best on the pitch,
798
00:58:47,152 --> 00:58:50,992
and that's why he became the best
player in the history of this game.
799
00:58:56,673 --> 00:59:01,314
I was lucky enough to play
against Pelé and Cruyff.
800
00:59:01,435 --> 00:59:02,675
I watched Maradona play.
801
00:59:02,794 --> 00:59:07,394
They have all made a big
difference in this sport.
802
00:59:07,514 --> 00:59:09,634
But nowadays there is no one like Leo Messi.
803
00:59:09,754 --> 00:59:13,315
He does things that other players
can't even think about doing.
804
00:59:16,236 --> 00:59:18,476
He does the impossible, the incredible.
805
00:59:18,596 --> 00:59:21,517
He moves at a different speed to everyone else.
806
00:59:22,794 --> 00:59:26,914
It's like the ball is glued to his
foot and he keeps showing it to you
807
00:59:27,035 --> 00:59:31,716
and just when you think you can get it,
it's already too late.
808
00:59:33,155 --> 00:59:40,076
It's difficult to talk about Leo
and put it into our words ...
809
00:59:40,197 --> 00:59:41,997
because he's not on our planet.
810
00:59:43,755 --> 00:59:46,235
In every game I'd be watching,
waiting to see what he would do
811
00:59:46,356 --> 00:59:49,277
because he's the player
who wins you every game.
812
00:59:49,957 --> 00:59:53,717
When he takes the ball,
something's going to happen.
813
00:59:57,278 --> 00:59:59,359
He's capable of starting
the move and finishing it off, as well.
814
01:00:01,477 --> 01:00:04,157
Normally, players can do one or the other,
815
01:00:06,597 --> 01:00:08,038
But he's different.
816
01:00:10,439 --> 01:00:11,999
He's better than you with
his right foot, left foot and head,
817
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,000
at defending and attacking.
818
01:00:14,118 --> 01:00:15,198
He's faster,
819
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:19,280
better at dribbling and passing.
820
01:00:26,877 --> 01:00:28,238
Goalkeeper?
821
01:00:28,359 --> 01:00:31,079
Well, we haven't put him in goal yet.
822
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:35,199
But watch out if he tries that too !
823
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,761
The impact and importance
of Cruyff as a player,
824
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760
and then the Dream Team coach at Barça, huge.
825
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,320
But Joan Laporta's devotion to the Dutchman ...
826
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,160
meant that he stood for election,
827
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,920
and once he won the presidency,
828
01:00:56,041 --> 01:00:59,002
he ushered in that golden era of all-time ...
829
01:00:59,641 --> 01:01:04,041
by handing the GPS to Cruyff,
about the football philosophy,
830
01:01:04,161 --> 01:01:06,922
and the appointment of the
right men to implement it.
831
01:01:07,362 --> 01:01:10,522
It's for those three things :
great player, brilliant coach,
832
01:01:10,644 --> 01:01:13,123
and the greatest ever professor,
833
01:01:13,242 --> 01:01:15,843
that Cruyff has become the most important man ...
834
01:01:15,963 --> 01:01:18,443
in the history of professional football.
835
01:01:19,123 --> 01:01:23,683
I think it was ... it was crucial,
the contribution of Cruyff.
836
01:01:23,803 --> 01:01:26,364
It wasn't like a day-to-day office job,
837
01:01:26,484 --> 01:01:31,044
but we knew that he was
providing ideas and support.
838
01:01:32,442 --> 01:01:35,003
He advised us on all
of our football decisions.
839
01:01:35,124 --> 01:01:38,324
Johan created and developed
a certain style of football,
840
01:01:38,445 --> 01:01:44,526
and Rijkaard contributed his own
personality, ideas and experience.
841
01:01:50,604 --> 01:01:51,764
People remember Pep's time in charge ...
842
01:01:51,885 --> 01:01:53,805
because it was a very successful era,
843
01:01:53,926 --> 01:01:57,646
but I'll never forget Frank's time at the club,
844
01:01:57,765 --> 01:02:00,125
which was also a very successful few years.
845
01:02:00,565 --> 01:02:05,526
During Madrid's Galáctico era,
they were winning everything,
846
01:02:05,646 --> 01:02:07,645
and it felt like we couldn't beat them.
847
01:02:07,765 --> 01:02:10,125
But with Rijkaard, we put an end to that,
848
01:02:10,245 --> 01:02:14,966
which for me personally
was a very proud moment.
849
01:02:25,446 --> 01:02:28,526
Barça was already a huge brand,
850
01:02:28,646 --> 01:02:32,687
but we were looking at the museum
and there was only one Champions League.
851
01:02:43,448 --> 01:02:46,408
If you watch the final,
I don't think we deserved to lose.
852
01:03:11,649 --> 01:03:13,769
After the births of my children,
that was the best night of my life.
853
01:03:13,890 --> 01:03:20,851
I honestly thought it would
be my last game for Barça ...
854
01:03:21,051 --> 01:03:23,731
because I'd had a really tough year.
855
01:03:23,851 --> 01:03:28,291
It was thanks to Frank
that I played that day.
856
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:30,891
He was like a father to me.
857
01:03:31,012 --> 01:03:35,932
And in the end,
we lifted the European Cup together.
858
01:03:41,492 --> 01:03:43,612
After winning in Paris,
that magical point,
859
01:03:43,733 --> 01:03:48,653
that turning point for the club,
the following season wasn't that good.
860
01:03:48,772 --> 01:03:53,773
The leading players were not really
leading the group properly.
861
01:03:54,493 --> 01:03:58,412
Maybe we had so much success so early
that maybe it was too early.
862
01:03:59,173 --> 01:04:02,333
Slowly, but steadily,
we were going in the wrong direction.
863
01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:06,293
The second season that I was here,
Rijkaard was still in charge.
864
01:04:06,413 --> 01:04:12,654
I think it's one of the worst seasons
in the recent history of Barcelona,
865
01:04:12,773 --> 01:04:14,053
where we came third.
866
01:04:15,413 --> 01:04:18,173
We went backwards after winning in Paris,
867
01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:20,054
and winning the league.
868
01:04:20,174 --> 01:04:25,454
We'd stopped competing.
we'd lost our fire, our hunger.
869
01:04:25,574 --> 01:04:28,535
You could sense through the
season that it was the end of an era.
870
01:04:28,656 --> 01:04:29,936
People wanted a change,
871
01:04:30,055 --> 01:04:33,415
and I was part of the people
that they wanted out.
872
01:04:33,534 --> 01:04:35,374
It was very difficult.
873
01:04:39,497 --> 01:04:42,057
I've only been sent off twice:
Once because the referee made a mistake,
874
01:04:42,176 --> 01:04:43,616
and once at the Bernabéu.
875
01:04:50,936 --> 01:04:52,696
I felt angry and powerless.
876
01:04:52,816 --> 01:04:54,615
They were running rings around us.
877
01:04:54,736 --> 01:05:00,017
Never mind 4-1, we could have lost 7-1.
878
01:05:00,136 --> 01:05:03,296
It was one of the worst nights of my career,
879
01:05:03,416 --> 01:05:05,696
and the same goes for Puyol and everyone else.
880
01:05:10,897 --> 01:05:14,537
It just wasn't good enough.
Not for the standards people set here.
881
01:05:14,658 --> 01:05:16,339
Not good enough for the club.
882
01:05:16,458 --> 01:05:19,938
And not good enough if you
look at the players that we had.
883
01:05:20,058 --> 01:05:21,618
Something had to change.
884
01:05:32,420 --> 01:05:36,061
Mourinho does come out
of this story as the bad guy,
885
01:05:36,139 --> 01:05:39,579
but in 2008, he was a
perfectly legitimate candidate ...
886
01:05:39,699 --> 01:05:42,219
to succeed the failing Frank Rijkaard.
887
01:05:42,861 --> 01:05:43,861
He's a winner,
888
01:05:43,979 --> 01:05:47,820
and it felt like a safer
choice because he was a big brand,
889
01:05:47,941 --> 01:05:52,540
and he'd recently coached Chelsea, etc.,
and he was on the market.
890
01:05:53,819 --> 01:05:55,340
It was a long process,
there were many board members
891
01:05:55,461 --> 01:05:56,461
who wanted Mourinho.
892
01:05:56,580 --> 01:06:02,900
They argued that we needed a manager
who would get results quickly.
893
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:07,701
Given there were four or five
directors keen on Mourinho,
894
01:06:07,822 --> 01:06:14,503
the vice president organized
a meeting with him and off he went.
895
01:06:14,781 --> 01:06:17,741
By that time he was employing the 4-3-3,
896
01:06:17,861 --> 01:06:19,421
he even prepared a PowerPoint ...
897
01:06:19,542 --> 01:06:24,343
with some pitch positions of the
players and typical movements.
898
01:06:24,462 --> 01:06:27,022
I'm sure he would have been successful.
899
01:06:32,942 --> 01:06:34,103
Mourinho helped us a lot
when we were young players.
900
01:06:34,224 --> 01:06:40,504
Van Gaal often sent him
to take Barça B training.
901
01:06:43,505 --> 01:06:45,544
I was with the under-19s
and he'd coach us once a week.
902
01:06:45,663 --> 01:06:51,783
It was the same style of football,
the Barça philosophy.
903
01:06:53,383 --> 01:06:55,623
The rondo, possession,
holding onto the ball, positional play.
904
01:06:55,744 --> 01:06:57,984
We worked on all of that with Mourinho.
905
01:06:58,103 --> 01:07:00,863
You could understand that Mourinho felt ...
906
01:07:00,983 --> 01:07:04,304
he should be in charge of making Barça
the greatest team in the world.
907
01:07:04,665 --> 01:07:07,705
But by 2008,
Mourinho had changed radically.
908
01:07:07,824 --> 01:07:12,465
It was about power, height,
athleticism, over technique.
909
01:07:14,227 --> 01:07:15,827
When he went to Chelsea,
910
01:07:15,944 --> 01:07:19,864
Mourinho's philosophy of the game changed.
911
01:07:20,226 --> 01:07:23,547
It's a very different style
to the football we play at Barça.
912
01:07:27,586 --> 01:07:30,466
We wanted to stay faithful
to Cruyff's philosophy.
913
01:07:31,988 --> 01:07:36,988
The president and Johan were good friends,
914
01:07:37,108 --> 01:07:41,068
and Laporta had complete
confidence in Johan's opinion.
915
01:07:41,187 --> 01:07:44,987
Johan told him the man for the job
was training the youth team.
916
01:07:45,747 --> 01:07:47,747
All he needed to do was promote him.
917
01:07:48,187 --> 01:07:52,148
There's a lot of football players ...
There were a lot of football players
918
01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:54,548
that came to visit my father periodically.
919
01:07:54,668 --> 01:07:55,668
My father loved that.
920
01:07:55,788 --> 01:08:00,469
And I know Pep also loved that,
and I know that they were meeting a lot.
921
01:08:00,588 --> 01:08:04,788
So when my father had,
what we could call a crazy idea
922
01:08:04,909 --> 01:08:07,669
that the coach who was in Barça B
in the third division,
923
01:08:07,789 --> 01:08:11,110
or the third level at the time, to say,
"Put him in the first team."
924
01:08:11,229 --> 01:08:13,749
That's a big gamble.
925
01:08:15,070 --> 01:08:16,150
I asked them if they
thought Pep was ready,
926
01:08:16,829 --> 01:08:20,630
and Txiki Begiristain and Johan,
who saw him regularly, said he was.
927
01:08:21,150 --> 01:08:23,390
Mourinho's agent called me and said,
928
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:25,870
"Are you going to appoint Mourinho or not?
929
01:08:25,991 --> 01:08:30,792
Because if you're interested,
we need to talk."
930
01:08:30,911 --> 01:08:34,031
And I said to him,
"No, Jorge. We've chosen Pep Guardiola."
931
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:37,310
So I told Pep that I wanted
him to be the next manager ...
932
01:08:37,429 --> 01:08:39,190
if the season didn't end well.
933
01:08:39,670 --> 01:08:46,670
We were having lunch and Pep,
half in jest, said to me,
934
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:51,111
"If you appoint me as coach
I'll win everything for you."
935
01:08:51,232 --> 01:08:52,392
He honestly said that.
936
01:09:02,192 --> 01:09:04,032
When I heard that Guardiola
would be our new manager,
937
01:09:04,152 --> 01:09:07,193
I knew that everything would go well.
938
01:09:07,872 --> 01:09:10,352
I hadn't worked with him as a
coach but we were teammates,
939
01:09:10,472 --> 01:09:13,872
and I knew what a perfectionist he was.
940
01:09:13,993 --> 01:09:15,793
And I thought, this is going to be great.
941
01:09:17,913 --> 01:09:21,233
In retrospect, it's remarkable,
but because of Euro 2008,
942
01:09:21,355 --> 01:09:25,035
Guardiola's appointment had garnered
very little media coverage in Spain ...
943
01:09:25,153 --> 01:09:26,874
until the day of his presentation ...
944
01:09:26,995 --> 01:09:31,114
when he sits there,
lean, young, full head of hair,
945
01:09:31,234 --> 01:09:33,554
the returning local hero and says,
946
01:09:33,674 --> 01:09:37,635
"Everything changes."
Ronaldinho, out ! Deco, out !
947
01:09:37,754 --> 01:09:41,554
Eto'o, out !
Or, at best, third choice striker.
948
01:09:41,675 --> 01:09:45,235
It was his statement of : "I'm in charge."
949
01:09:46,876 --> 01:09:50,156
Just imagine what Samuel was
like when he heard that.
950
01:09:50,275 --> 01:09:55,796
It was like an explosion.
951
01:10:03,515 --> 01:10:04,875
Given the kind of player I was,
952
01:10:04,997 --> 01:10:07,637
and considering what I'd done for the club,
953
01:10:07,756 --> 01:10:11,436
it would have been nice for Pep
to have called me with the news.
954
01:10:11,556 --> 01:10:13,596
It's always better to be straight with people.
955
01:10:13,716 --> 01:10:15,917
It was a big shock to find out that way.
956
01:10:18,957 --> 01:10:22,357
Tactically, he's the best in the world.
I've always said that.
957
01:10:22,478 --> 01:10:24,439
He understands the game better than anyone,
958
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,999
but I'll be even better ...
959
01:10:26,716 --> 01:10:28,516
because I'll be up front with people.
960
01:10:30,717 --> 01:10:32,757
Samuel took training seriously.
He trained as hard as he played.
961
01:10:33,797 --> 01:10:35,638
Every manager loved Eto'o ...
962
01:10:35,758 --> 01:10:40,478
but at training,
it was all or nothing with him,
963
01:10:40,599 --> 01:10:42,559
and he often caused problems.
964
01:10:42,679 --> 01:10:47,200
I remember Rijkaard told me
we had to get rid of Samuel ...
965
01:10:47,318 --> 01:10:52,278
because he grabbed one of the
assistants by the scruff of the neck ...
966
01:10:52,398 --> 01:10:54,679
for giving him offside in training.
967
01:10:54,799 --> 01:10:57,199
But that passion is also good.
968
01:10:57,681 --> 01:11:01,041
I remember the pre-season
training camp in St Andrews.
969
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,480
We were all curious.
970
01:11:02,598 --> 01:11:04,799
We'd sold Deco and Ronaldinho,
971
01:11:05,441 --> 01:11:07,081
but I was keen to keep Eto'o,
972
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,920
and I told him that I'd try to keep him.
973
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:13,280
He was brilliant during that pre-season.
974
01:11:13,402 --> 01:11:16,202
He worked harder and
ran more than anyone else.
975
01:11:17,681 --> 01:11:21,360
In the pre-season games
he scored more than anyone.
976
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,640
So the captains went to see Pep ...
977
01:11:25,762 --> 01:11:27,882
I hope Pep doesn't get annoyed I'm sharing this !
978
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,081
They told Pep that ...
Eto'o would be a big help that season.
979
01:11:33,041 --> 01:11:35,561
The guy they wanted to kick out saved them.
980
01:11:35,683 --> 01:11:37,843
Everyone talks about Messi these days,
981
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,840
but the one who made the
difference at Barça back then
982
01:11:40,962 --> 01:11:42,923
wasn't Ronaldinho. It was Eto'o.
983
01:11:43,564 --> 01:11:46,684
When things got difficult,
it was me they all looked to.
984
01:11:50,242 --> 01:11:52,643
The team could have played without a manager.
985
01:11:53,123 --> 01:11:56,603
Guardiola's job was to reinstall a desire to win,
986
01:11:56,723 --> 01:11:59,603
and he achieved that with his team talks.
987
01:12:10,004 --> 01:12:12,165
After his first team talk in St Andrews ...
988
01:12:13,485 --> 01:12:16,404
I knew that something big was about to happen.
989
01:12:16,524 --> 01:12:20,845
I'd never heard anyone convey
a message like that before.
990
01:12:20,964 --> 01:12:26,364
At that moment,
everyone knew that things would go well.
991
01:12:27,964 --> 01:12:29,004
Pep spoke to the players a lot.
992
01:12:29,126 --> 01:12:32,127
Maybe his most famous team
talk was when he said,
993
01:12:32,247 --> 01:12:36,087
"You can miss a penalty or mess up a pass.
994
01:12:36,205 --> 01:12:37,365
"You're only human.
995
01:12:37,486 --> 01:12:44,047
"But I'll never forgive you
if you don't give me 100%."
996
01:12:47,087 --> 01:12:48,848
There are very few people who
communicate as well as he does.
997
01:12:48,967 --> 01:12:54,527
He makes his players believe
in what they have to do.
998
01:12:54,648 --> 01:12:57,448
And he convinces you that it will work.
999
01:12:57,568 --> 01:12:59,409
From the first minute,
1000
01:12:59,526 --> 01:13:06,166
we all believed that a change was coming,
1001
01:13:06,288 --> 01:13:08,209
and that we could achieve big things.
1002
01:13:09,769 --> 01:13:12,928
Pep's team talks were exactly what I needed.
1003
01:13:14,767 --> 01:13:17,407
He was so passionate when he spoke.
1004
01:13:17,969 --> 01:13:19,289
I love a challenge.
1005
01:13:19,408 --> 01:13:23,728
I really like having
to work at something important.
1006
01:13:23,848 --> 01:13:27,129
So when they told me everything
was going to change at Barça,
1007
01:13:27,248 --> 01:13:29,888
that a new coach and new players were arriving,
1008
01:13:30,008 --> 01:13:32,208
I decided that was where I wanted to be.
1009
01:13:34,009 --> 01:13:35,209
I joined up with the team for pre-season,
1010
01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:36,891
and I needed to talk to Guardiola.
1011
01:13:37,009 --> 01:13:40,609
I told him I'd had offers to join other teams.
1012
01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:43,970
Ten seconds is what it took.
1013
01:13:44,090 --> 01:13:47,771
He told me he had three or four line-ups in mind
1014
01:13:48,291 --> 01:13:50,571
and he couldn't imagine a
single one without me in it.
1015
01:13:50,692 --> 01:13:54,412
I told my brother, my agent and everyone else ...
1016
01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:56,291
not to listen to any other offers.
1017
01:13:57,331 --> 01:13:59,291
It was a good start in pre-season,
1018
01:13:59,412 --> 01:14:00,812
and the freshness about the team,
1019
01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:03,413
and a lot of hard work and well-prepared,
1020
01:14:03,532 --> 01:14:06,012
but the season itself
didn't start that well.
1021
01:14:14,251 --> 01:14:18,892
I actually saw that game with my father,
here at home.
1022
01:14:19,013 --> 01:14:20,733
And they lost to Numancia.
1023
01:14:20,852 --> 01:14:24,012
And immediately the attacks,
"He's not prepared for this."
1024
01:14:24,132 --> 01:14:26,813
My father said,
"It's one of the best games in years !"
1025
01:14:26,933 --> 01:14:31,213
You know, come on ! Give us a break !
It was not the best game.
1026
01:14:31,613 --> 01:14:34,854
Most of us, including me,
probably saw the game and said,
1027
01:14:34,974 --> 01:14:36,774
"Wow ! This doesn't smell good."
1028
01:14:37,214 --> 01:14:40,254
My father never looked at
the end product of 90 minutes.
1029
01:14:40,373 --> 01:14:43,453
My father looked at the end
product of many years to come.
1030
01:14:54,376 --> 01:14:56,496
It was really a big moment for myself,
1031
01:14:56,617 --> 01:15:00,697
and it was probably an even bigger
moment for the team and for the club ...
1032
01:15:00,815 --> 01:15:02,854
because we needed that victory.
1033
01:15:03,214 --> 01:15:05,495
If we'd drawn that game,
1034
01:15:05,615 --> 01:15:08,575
the question marks would have
started flying around.
1035
01:15:09,895 --> 01:15:13,216
And once we found that click,
once we got that first victory,
1036
01:15:14,857 --> 01:15:16,177
there was no stopping us.
1037
01:15:34,858 --> 01:15:39,858
Guardiola taught us so much,
but he also explained why we did things.
1038
01:15:39,978 --> 01:15:42,339
Most of us already understood the reasons ...
1039
01:15:42,460 --> 01:15:45,900
because we'd spent years at Barça,
1040
01:15:46,018 --> 01:15:49,098
but the guys from other clubs
noticed a huge change ...
1041
01:15:49,218 --> 01:15:51,018
when Guardiola took over.
1042
01:15:56,578 --> 01:16:01,459
He was the coach who
completely changed my outlook.
1043
01:16:02,739 --> 01:16:08,219
When I arrived here he showed
me an entirely new way ...
1044
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:11,981
of seeing, playing,
and thinking about football.
1045
01:16:14,299 --> 01:16:18,259
It always reminded me of the
tactics of a basketball team,
1046
01:16:18,381 --> 01:16:21,582
when they have the ball and
start signaling to each other ...
1047
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:23,940
that they're going to try a certain play.
1048
01:16:24,061 --> 01:16:25,461
It was a bit like that.
1049
01:16:28,222 --> 01:16:29,342
It was fantastic.
1050
01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:31,541
I was never allowed to kick the ball long,
1051
01:16:31,661 --> 01:16:35,621
and from the very first minute
I was involved in the tactics.
1052
01:16:35,742 --> 01:16:38,382
So I had to really concentrate all the time,
1053
01:16:38,501 --> 01:16:45,342
which meant every match flew by really fast.
1054
01:16:45,462 --> 01:16:49,663
It was great because I'd been used to
a more direct style of football,
1055
01:16:49,783 --> 01:16:55,222
and sometimes all I'd be thinking
about was how boring the games were.
1056
01:16:58,061 --> 01:17:00,862
I was in my element because Guardiola
and I shared the same philosophy.
1057
01:17:00,982 --> 01:17:05,982
I'd think, don't clear it, pass it,
and Guardiola would say exactly that.
1058
01:17:06,101 --> 01:17:12,102
But my football philosophy
isn't the same as Abidal's or Henry's ...
1059
01:17:12,224 --> 01:17:14,984
or Hleb's or Yaya Toure's.
1060
01:17:15,103 --> 01:17:20,824
They thought they were playing well,
and at other clubs they would have been.
1061
01:17:20,944 --> 01:17:23,624
Not at Barça.
It's a different kind of football.
1062
01:17:23,985 --> 01:17:27,105
Whoa, hang on ! That's new.
Let me assess it. Let me see it.
1063
01:17:27,224 --> 01:17:29,625
Let me put my pride on the side, also.
1064
01:17:29,746 --> 01:17:34,146
Because that team had a lot of guys
that are all kings in their country.
1065
01:17:34,265 --> 01:17:37,506
To tell a guy that used to do
maybe stuff or whatever,
1066
01:17:37,626 --> 01:17:40,546
"No, stay there. Don't do that.
Make that run for him."
1067
01:17:40,985 --> 01:17:44,705
"What? What do you mean?
I can play football too !"
1068
01:17:45,226 --> 01:17:46,905
Pep's methods were different.
1069
01:17:47,026 --> 01:17:49,867
He was very hands-on, always intervening.
1070
01:17:49,986 --> 01:17:53,066
I remember Abidal and a few
others coming to me and saying,
1071
01:17:53,185 --> 01:17:55,385
"This guy's changing everything !"
1072
01:17:57,747 --> 01:17:59,027
I wasn't some 15-year-old kid.
1073
01:17:59,747 --> 01:18:03,427
If you treat me with respect,
I'll do the same in return,
1074
01:18:03,546 --> 01:18:05,466
but if not, why should I respect you?
1075
01:18:05,587 --> 01:18:08,308
So I said to Pep,
"You can't speak to me like that."
1076
01:18:08,427 --> 01:18:11,347
I went to the president and told him,
"If this continues, I'm off."
1077
01:18:11,466 --> 01:18:15,626
Abi came from Lyon,
where he had another way of playing.
1078
01:18:17,028 --> 01:18:18,868
Look at the Abidal that arrived,
1079
01:18:19,787 --> 01:18:22,387
and look at the Abidal three years after.
1080
01:18:23,108 --> 01:18:26,229
Crosses, putting the ball down and passing it out.
1081
01:18:26,348 --> 01:18:28,428
Before he would have cleared it straight away.
1082
01:18:28,549 --> 01:18:32,229
He wouldn't have been that
composed in the last third.
1083
01:18:34,388 --> 01:18:37,909
I think Pep's a football genius.
1084
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:44,509
Sometimes he can be a bit controlling,
checking every last detail.
1085
01:18:44,627 --> 01:18:46,508
Some guys accept and respect that,
1086
01:18:46,629 --> 01:18:51,069
but there are others who say,
"You know where you can stick that."
1087
01:18:51,190 --> 01:18:53,350
I arrived here. I was 21.
1088
01:18:53,470 --> 01:18:57,511
And for me it was like love
and hate at the same time ...
1089
01:18:57,629 --> 01:19:02,109
because every minute of your life,
you have to be focused on football.
1090
01:19:02,230 --> 01:19:05,271
Twelve o'clock you have to go to bed to sleep.
1091
01:19:05,390 --> 01:19:09,550
You have to eat well.
He wants to control you in every way.
1092
01:19:09,671 --> 01:19:13,271
"Don't go and watch the tennis,
don't stay under the sun,
1093
01:19:13,391 --> 01:19:15,832
don't go to the Formula 1,
don't go to this.
1094
01:19:15,952 --> 01:19:17,152
We're here on a mission."
1095
01:19:17,272 --> 01:19:21,272
He wanted to know everything.
What we ate, what we ... Whatever !
1096
01:19:21,831 --> 01:19:23,432
He was so obsessed ...
1097
01:19:23,553 --> 01:19:29,673
that sometimes we had some
arguments between him and me.
1098
01:19:31,073 --> 01:19:32,753
Gerard is one of my best friends,
1099
01:19:32,832 --> 01:19:36,793
but I believe a manager has to be like that.
1100
01:19:36,914 --> 01:19:39,473
During training,
we always had to give 100%,
1101
01:19:39,592 --> 01:19:41,872
but I'd done that my entire career.
1102
01:19:41,992 --> 01:19:44,393
In my opinion,
that's how football should be.
1103
01:19:44,633 --> 01:19:46,553
On the one hand, he was very demanding.
1104
01:19:46,674 --> 01:19:50,954
We all had to have lunch
at the training ground every day.
1105
01:19:51,072 --> 01:19:53,113
He controlled our weight, what we ate.
1106
01:19:53,233 --> 01:19:56,513
He completely revolutionized the team's diet.
1107
01:19:56,635 --> 01:19:59,875
But on the other hand,
he gave us the night off before matches.
1108
01:20:00,793 --> 01:20:04,434
As a player, he always complained
that we spent too much time in hotels.
1109
01:20:05,795 --> 01:20:08,915
Initially, it seemed like a strange decision ...
1110
01:20:09,033 --> 01:20:11,073
because we weren't used to it,
1111
01:20:11,194 --> 01:20:15,035
but I think it was one of
the best decisions he made.
1112
01:20:15,156 --> 01:20:18,396
For me where Pep was,
at times, ahead of the game ...
1113
01:20:19,396 --> 01:20:22,437
The fact that, Champions League final,
1114
01:20:22,557 --> 01:20:27,517
in the hotel : family, kids, wives.
1115
01:20:27,596 --> 01:20:29,476
My brother was in my room, midnight.
1116
01:20:30,117 --> 01:20:35,637
Girlfriend, friends, we're just talking,
I made a cup of coffee, chilling.
1117
01:20:35,756 --> 01:20:37,476
You play for any other team,
1118
01:20:37,596 --> 01:20:42,837
"Don't do this, don't do that. No.
You have to concentrate."
1119
01:20:44,396 --> 01:20:49,076
We were lucky because Pep
had only recently retired,
1120
01:20:49,196 --> 01:20:53,677
and he understood what the life
of a top footballer was like.
1121
01:20:56,477 --> 01:20:59,237
We'd go to every training session
and match with a spring in our step ...
1122
01:20:59,357 --> 01:21:01,998
because he was treating us well.
He understood us.
1123
01:21:02,999 --> 01:21:07,079
Listen, I say it every
single time to my friends.
1124
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,640
When the ref was blowing the whistle,
1125
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:13,919
I used to look at the time and say,
"Already?"
1126
01:21:14,039 --> 01:21:16,199
I didn't want the game to end.
1127
01:21:16,799 --> 01:21:20,720
I didn't want the game to end.
I was like, "I'm enjoying this."
1128
01:21:22,921 --> 01:21:25,321
We had a great teacher
and we were like sponges,
1129
01:21:25,441 --> 01:21:27,801
absorbing everything he taught us.
1130
01:21:27,917 --> 01:21:30,598
It makes no difference
how great the teacher is ...
1131
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,400
if the students aren't capable
of understanding the message.
1132
01:21:35,519 --> 01:21:39,040
It all came together perfectly.
1133
01:21:44,561 --> 01:21:45,721
We won everything because we were the best team,
1134
01:21:45,842 --> 01:21:48,923
but we also had the luck of champions.
1135
01:21:49,041 --> 01:21:51,361
There were some epic moments that season.
1136
01:21:51,482 --> 01:21:56,522
Like when winning the Cup
hinged on one crucial moment ...
1137
01:21:56,641 --> 01:21:59,202
when Pinto saved a penalty against Mallorca.
1138
01:22:08,082 --> 01:22:09,202
We were losing 1-0,
1139
01:22:09,323 --> 01:22:14,883
and at the start of the second
half we conceded a penalty,
1140
01:22:15,002 --> 01:22:17,643
and Martín Cáceres was sent off.
1141
01:22:17,763 --> 01:22:24,762
So I thought I'd try and
unsettle the penalty taker.
1142
01:22:25,322 --> 01:22:27,763
I said, "Where are you
going to put the penalty?"
1143
01:22:27,883 --> 01:22:32,203
He didn't answer, so I said,
"I'm going to dive that way."
1144
01:22:32,323 --> 01:22:36,404
And I got lucky,
I went the right way and made the save.
1145
01:22:36,965 --> 01:22:41,045
It gave us a massive boost.
1146
01:22:41,163 --> 01:22:43,203
And then Leo came on.
1147
01:22:43,324 --> 01:22:46,325
He got fouled,
their defender was sent off,
1148
01:22:46,444 --> 01:22:48,044
and he scored a wonder-goal.
1149
01:22:50,365 --> 01:22:53,725
In La Liga, if we lost at the Bernabéu,
they'd have cut the gap at the top.
1150
01:22:53,844 --> 01:22:56,645
But we won 6-2, which won us the league.
1151
01:22:56,765 --> 01:22:58,205
That was the key game.
1152
01:22:58,326 --> 01:23:00,806
They were four points behind us,
1153
01:23:00,925 --> 01:23:04,565
and if they beat us,
it was really tough to win the league.
1154
01:23:04,687 --> 01:23:07,728
But we played one of the
best games I've ever seen.
1155
01:23:16,886 --> 01:23:18,166
I really enjoyed it.
It was one of the best games ever.
1156
01:23:18,287 --> 01:23:20,886
When I die, I'll probably
be thinking about that night.
1157
01:23:22,327 --> 01:23:24,368
Puyol kissing the captain's
armband Messi scoring goals,
1158
01:23:24,487 --> 01:23:27,847
and Henry and Piqué. Oh, fantastic !
1159
01:23:28,847 --> 01:23:33,007
I obviously had to behave
appropriately but what a feeling !
1160
01:23:47,528 --> 01:23:53,409
It's weird because it's eight years ago.
1161
01:23:53,530 --> 01:23:57,730
I always watch it on television.
I've watched that goal a hundred times.
1162
01:23:57,848 --> 01:24:03,449
So I always remember this image.
I cannot remember what I felt.
1163
01:24:03,570 --> 01:24:07,290
Obviously,
it was like an unbelievable feeling ...
1164
01:24:07,410 --> 01:24:09,650
because it was a tremendous game.
1165
01:24:11,890 --> 01:24:15,050
But the 6-2 was extra special
because of our tactics.
1166
01:24:16,770 --> 01:24:19,490
That's when that fake nine whole thing started.
1167
01:24:23,372 --> 01:24:24,772
Pep called me the day before the game,
1168
01:24:24,891 --> 01:24:27,491
and told me to come down to the training ground.
1169
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:30,772
He was keen to discuss a new position.
1170
01:24:30,889 --> 01:24:33,810
He'd been watching videos of games with Tito.
1171
01:24:33,932 --> 01:24:36,492
He said he wanted to try something different.
1172
01:24:36,612 --> 01:24:39,532
The red glasses are Barça,
the others are Real Madrid.
1173
01:24:39,651 --> 01:24:41,172
Pep changed our system,
1174
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:44,733
and told Henry to play between
the right-back and center-back,
1175
01:24:44,853 --> 01:24:47,333
with Eto'o between the
center-back and left-back.
1176
01:24:47,453 --> 01:24:51,214
Guardiola had analyzed the Madrid center-backs,
1177
01:24:51,334 --> 01:24:56,014
and noticed they never came out
to press the number nine.
1178
01:24:58,132 --> 01:25:01,173
Thanks to the false nine,
we outnumbered them in midfield ...
1179
01:25:01,293 --> 01:25:03,093
when Messi dropped back.
1180
01:25:03,214 --> 01:25:06,454
We always had an extra man.
1181
01:25:07,334 --> 01:25:11,214
Pep said we'd outnumber them
throughout the entire game.
1182
01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:12,373
He was right.
1183
01:25:12,494 --> 01:25:14,134
We'd never played that way,
1184
01:25:15,733 --> 01:25:19,974
so Madrid hadn't studied the
possibility of us playing like that.
1185
01:25:20,255 --> 01:25:22,735
The center-backs didn't
know whether to mark me or not,
1186
01:25:22,855 --> 01:25:27,295
which meant I had lots of
space when I dropped back.
1187
01:25:27,415 --> 01:25:30,216
And as soon as the defenders
came out to close me down,
1188
01:25:30,336 --> 01:25:32,936
Eto'o and Henry made runs in behind.
1189
01:25:33,055 --> 01:25:35,455
That's what happened for Henry's first goal.
1190
01:25:35,575 --> 01:25:38,535
It was a great performance.
1191
01:25:38,655 --> 01:25:41,496
And it worked out because on
that goal that Leo gave me ...
1192
01:25:41,616 --> 01:25:43,056
that's exactly what happened.
1193
01:25:43,176 --> 01:25:46,856
He was in a position where they didn't
know if they have to come and get him,
1194
01:25:46,975 --> 01:25:50,416
but I'm running in behind,
Sam was running on the other side,
1195
01:25:50,538 --> 01:25:51,938
and it worked out.
1196
01:25:55,817 --> 01:26:00,178
It wasn't so robotic
because we also improvised.
1197
01:26:00,298 --> 01:26:02,378
Robots would be like,
1198
01:26:02,498 --> 01:26:06,097
"I. Go. Here. Now. I. Go. There."
1199
01:26:06,217 --> 01:26:09,018
No. There was always room to be creative.
1200
01:26:09,138 --> 01:26:16,018
But 60% of our match strategy
was set in stone before kick-off.
1201
01:26:17,137 --> 01:26:20,018
The other 40% was down to our improvisations.
1202
01:26:26,019 --> 01:26:27,460
In the Champions League,
1203
01:26:27,578 --> 01:26:32,058
if it hadn't been for Iniesta's goal,
we were out.
1204
01:26:32,179 --> 01:26:33,859
A 92nd-minute goal.
1205
01:26:45,499 --> 01:26:50,100
I was sat with the captain Carles Puyol,
who was suspended.
1206
01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:51,620
Bam, Chelsea go 1-0 up.
1207
01:26:52,660 --> 01:26:53,900
And Puyol said to me,
1208
01:26:54,021 --> 01:26:58,662
"Don't worry, it's fine.
We'll score at the end."
1209
01:26:58,782 --> 01:27:04,981
There I was watching it and I'm like,
"Oh, my gosh ! We are gonna lose here."
1210
01:27:06,742 --> 01:27:08,542
The minutes kept ticking away,
and I didn't have the nerve to say,
1211
01:27:08,662 --> 01:27:12,342
"Look skipper, you were wrong !
This ain't gonna happen !"
1212
01:27:14,541 --> 01:27:17,182
I knew that if we could just hold on,
1213
01:27:17,302 --> 01:27:22,942
because we were under the cosh,
we'd definitely create one last chance.
1214
01:27:23,061 --> 01:27:26,422
And then little Andrés arrived to save the day.
1215
01:27:51,303 --> 01:27:55,903
Every time I watch that goal,
it sparks so many emotions
1216
01:27:56,024 --> 01:28:00,104
because it was such a significant moment for my club.
1217
01:28:00,904 --> 01:28:03,305
I'll never get tired of watching it.
1218
01:28:04,786 --> 01:28:06,506
It's because of moments like
this that we love football.
1219
01:28:09,424 --> 01:28:12,744
The only thing that beats it is sex.
1220
01:28:14,105 --> 01:28:15,425
That was the most important
goal in this whole story.
1221
01:28:15,546 --> 01:28:17,866
If we hadn't reached that final in Rome,
1222
01:28:18,585 --> 01:28:21,425
we probably wouldn't still
be talking about Pep's Barça.
1223
01:28:30,427 --> 01:28:31,787
I don't know how I played.
1224
01:28:36,147 --> 01:28:38,387
Iniesta ... I don't know how he played.
1225
01:28:38,867 --> 01:28:41,788
We were on a mission.
We didn't want to let that one go.
1226
01:28:43,988 --> 01:28:46,068
We had a chance to win the treble.
1227
01:28:46,188 --> 01:28:50,227
We'd just gone through the
drama of Stamford Bridge.
1228
01:28:51,628 --> 01:28:55,188
When we won the Champions League
against Arsenal in Paris,
1229
01:28:55,307 --> 01:28:57,027
I wasn't picked to start.
1230
01:28:57,147 --> 01:28:59,987
So I had to play this time.
1231
01:29:00,107 --> 01:29:04,908
No matter the risk or possible consequences.
1232
01:29:06,189 --> 01:29:07,709
I advised him not to shoot
powerfully from distance ...
1233
01:29:07,828 --> 01:29:14,069
because there was a big risk
he'd tear his muscle again.
1234
01:29:14,189 --> 01:29:15,669
Yaya played center back.
1235
01:29:15,790 --> 01:29:18,670
Sylvinho wasn't even playing
that season, he played.
1236
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:20,190
Puyol played right back.
1237
01:29:20,309 --> 01:29:22,749
Some people were like,
"Hmm, people are missing.
1238
01:29:22,869 --> 01:29:25,189
Two guys are starting injured."
1239
01:29:26,711 --> 01:29:28,471
We knew we'd win the game,
because Pep told us we'd win.
1240
01:29:28,591 --> 01:29:30,232
Pep's a genius.
1241
01:29:30,350 --> 01:29:35,110
He'd tell us exactly what we
needed to do in order to win.
1242
01:29:35,231 --> 01:29:36,631
I hope he will never change ...
1243
01:29:36,752 --> 01:29:41,513
because he is, for me,
the future of the game.
1244
01:29:42,911 --> 01:29:44,311
Some matches looked impossible to win,
1245
01:29:44,432 --> 01:29:48,351
but after 20 minutes,
we'd have them wrapped up,
1246
01:29:48,951 --> 01:29:52,552
like the game against
Manchester United in Rome.
1247
01:29:52,991 --> 01:29:56,191
What manager would show you a video
1248
01:29:57,671 --> 01:29:59,232
five minutes before a Champions League final?
1249
01:29:59,313 --> 01:30:00,393
Only him.
1250
01:30:00,512 --> 01:30:04,472
We don't know what was happening.
We go inside. There's a screen.
1251
01:30:05,312 --> 01:30:08,433
The boss asks us to stand in front of the screen,
1252
01:30:08,552 --> 01:30:10,672
and we are basically waiting.
1253
01:30:12,274 --> 01:30:14,474
Pep and Tito had made a spectacular video ...
1254
01:30:14,593 --> 01:30:16,393
featuring every single one of us.
1255
01:30:16,512 --> 01:30:19,593
With the music of Gladiator,
I think it was.
1256
01:30:19,715 --> 01:30:23,435
We see the whole journey to the final.
1257
01:30:24,674 --> 01:30:28,395
Sad moments, good moments, struggles.
1258
01:30:31,434 --> 01:30:35,354
After Iniesta's goal at Stamford Bridge
I got a text message from Pep ...
1259
01:30:35,475 --> 01:30:38,716
"I need your help to win
the Champions League."
1260
01:30:38,835 --> 01:30:43,914
The first feedback I received
was on the night before the game.
1261
01:30:44,034 --> 01:30:48,435
Pep gathered his technical staff
and showed them the video.
1262
01:30:49,877 --> 01:30:50,997
As soon as I saw it,
1263
01:30:51,115 --> 01:30:54,315
I honestly knew we'd win
the Champions League final.
1264
01:30:54,714 --> 01:31:00,035
It was so powerful.
It was ... It was so powerful
1265
01:31:00,156 --> 01:31:04,196
that I would say, also,
it was too powerful.
1266
01:31:05,757 --> 01:31:09,278
As a motivational tool,
the video was a total disaster.
1267
01:31:09,396 --> 01:31:11,996
In the opening ten minutes,
if it wasn't for Víctor ...
1268
01:31:17,078 --> 01:31:18,238
they'd have scored twice !
1269
01:31:19,997 --> 01:31:21,757
The boss was very sentimental.
1270
01:31:22,117 --> 01:31:25,317
I went to the dressing room
and was told I couldn't go in.
1271
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:26,480
"What?"
1272
01:31:26,599 --> 01:31:28,839
They said the boss was preparing something.
1273
01:31:28,958 --> 01:31:31,638
When we finally got in,
we had no time to prepare
1274
01:31:31,758 --> 01:31:32,958
and it was sweltering hot.
1275
01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:37,919
Then he showed us a video
that had all of us in tears.
1276
01:31:38,998 --> 01:31:41,798
We went onto the pitch
and Andrea Bocelli was singing,
1277
01:31:41,918 --> 01:31:43,718
which almost set us off again.
1278
01:31:43,839 --> 01:31:47,680
Manchester United must have
wondered what was wrong with us.
1279
01:31:47,798 --> 01:31:50,878
We were in pieces.
1280
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,280
After the video, he said,
"Guys, at the end of the game,
1281
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,160
"I want people to say
that we can play football.
1282
01:31:58,279 --> 01:31:59,519
"Have a good game."
1283
01:32:19,482 --> 01:32:22,722
We went into the game believing
we had a great chance of winning.
1284
01:32:22,841 --> 01:32:26,802
The first, might've been ten,
15 minutes, we started really well.
1285
01:32:26,923 --> 01:32:30,283
Probably out of nowhere,
I've headed one down in midfield,
1286
01:32:30,402 --> 01:32:33,482
Iniesta's picked it up,
made a run, and all of a sudden,
1287
01:32:33,601 --> 01:32:35,521
boom, Eto'o and you're one down.
1288
01:32:36,883 --> 01:32:39,123
Maybe from that moment on they just ...
1289
01:32:40,002 --> 01:32:42,723
That was what they needed.
Take a deep breath,
1290
01:32:42,843 --> 01:32:44,763
just get the ball and start passing it,
1291
01:32:44,883 --> 01:32:47,163
and gradually, sucking the life out of us.
1292
01:32:47,284 --> 01:32:51,724
You know when you play against
someone and you look in their eyes,
1293
01:32:51,843 --> 01:32:53,564
and it's over.
1294
01:32:53,683 --> 01:32:55,643
I think it was Wayne Rooney.
1295
01:32:55,764 --> 01:32:58,524
He was trying to get the ball
and we were keeping the ball,
1296
01:32:58,643 --> 01:33:02,844
and you could see the look.
He was defeated.
1297
01:33:02,965 --> 01:33:08,085
The quality they had, on the night,
was too good for us.
1298
01:33:08,764 --> 01:33:11,284
That was the one, for us,
that hurt the most.
1299
01:33:11,405 --> 01:33:14,045
It took me quite some time to get over that.
1300
01:33:15,766 --> 01:33:18,326
We knew it would be historic to
win the treble in our first year
1301
01:33:18,445 --> 01:33:21,606
playing our brand of football,
with the players we had.
1302
01:33:21,726 --> 01:33:25,726
And after Leo made it 2-0,
we knew the trophy was ours.
1303
01:33:27,244 --> 01:33:29,284
It was exactly how I'd visualized it.
1304
01:33:29,926 --> 01:33:33,607
The ball looped over the goalkeeper and in.
1305
01:33:33,726 --> 01:33:36,166
It was an unforgettable moment.
1306
01:33:55,848 --> 01:33:59,408
It was a statement of greatness
to begin your reign with a treble.
1307
01:33:59,528 --> 01:34:03,248
But the football reached its
high point at Wembley in 2011,
1308
01:34:03,368 --> 01:34:07,048
before which, Johan Cruyff said
that Guardiola should probably ...
1309
01:34:07,168 --> 01:34:08,888
walk away from the job ...
1310
01:34:09,008 --> 01:34:13,009
after three hugely intense
years and ten trophies lifted.
1311
01:34:13,130 --> 01:34:15,130
Everything had come at a cost.
1312
01:34:15,248 --> 01:34:17,768
A significant part of that cost
1313
01:34:17,888 --> 01:34:21,289
was that Pep was now getting on
far less well with his employers,
1314
01:34:21,410 --> 01:34:24,609
given that Joan Laporta had
ended his presidential reign,
1315
01:34:24,728 --> 01:34:28,809
and the new guy, Sandro Rosell,
had taken over.
1316
01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:33,610
In his final year,
Guardiola was frustrated and tired.
1317
01:34:33,730 --> 01:34:36,930
Given the burnout that we
saw in him in year four,
1318
01:34:37,050 --> 01:34:40,291
I'll bet you that Guardiola thinks
that Cruyff had it exactly right.
1319
01:34:41,571 --> 01:34:42,851
Pep had become very uptight.
1320
01:34:42,970 --> 01:34:46,090
He stressed about things
that hadn't bothered him before.
1321
01:34:46,211 --> 01:34:51,132
We played a pre-season game
at the Dallas Cowboys stadium,
1322
01:34:52,651 --> 01:34:56,291
and I overheard Guardiola
talking to Puyol and Piqué.
1323
01:34:56,731 --> 01:34:59,692
It was an unimportant pre-season friendly ...
1324
01:34:59,812 --> 01:35:04,612
but Guardiola raised his voice to them.
1325
01:35:05,771 --> 01:35:10,332
When I saw that, I said to Andrés Iniesta,
1326
01:35:10,453 --> 01:35:12,493
"He's leaving. This is his last year."
1327
01:35:14,693 --> 01:35:17,013
Even geniuses make mistakes
and Pep definitely got that wrong ...
1328
01:35:17,133 --> 01:35:20,973
because it felt like
we didn't matter to him anymore.
1329
01:35:22,453 --> 01:35:27,254
We didn't know what was going on with Pep,
1330
01:35:27,374 --> 01:35:31,614
which caused some uncertainty within the group.
1331
01:35:32,613 --> 01:35:36,774
Pep usually renewed his
contract in February or March,
1332
01:35:36,893 --> 01:35:39,733
but February passed with no news.
1333
01:35:39,855 --> 01:35:43,655
Then March passed and we
still didn't know anything.
1334
01:35:45,254 --> 01:35:47,535
I really struggled to
understand what was happening.
1335
01:35:49,936 --> 01:35:54,576
And we had a few bust-ups about it.
1336
01:35:54,694 --> 01:35:58,615
That year, if Pep had told me
to jump from the Camp Nou stands,
1337
01:35:58,736 --> 01:36:02,976
I'd have sprinted down the steps.
I wouldn't have jumped !
1338
01:36:04,455 --> 01:36:06,736
When you work with the same
coaching staff for so long,
1339
01:36:06,856 --> 01:36:09,616
relationships change.
1340
01:36:09,735 --> 01:36:14,295
It's very difficult to maintain
the dynamic and to keep on winning.
1341
01:36:14,416 --> 01:36:18,056
We won the Copa del Rey
Final in his last game,
1342
01:36:18,176 --> 01:36:22,216
and it was the perfect end to his time with us.
1343
01:36:30,056 --> 01:36:34,017
That day everyone got to see
the team he had built again.
1344
01:36:34,977 --> 01:36:37,817
After 30 minutes, we were leading 3-0 ...
1345
01:36:37,936 --> 01:36:44,377
against the best Athletic Bilbao side in years.
1346
01:36:44,938 --> 01:36:48,418
Signing off by winning the
Copa del Rey in that style ...
1347
01:36:48,539 --> 01:36:52,259
on his last night in charge
should have been the perfect send-off,
1348
01:36:52,378 --> 01:36:56,579
but he walked away with a
distinctly bittersweet feeling.
1349
01:36:57,779 --> 01:37:02,099
Mostly because he felt ill-treated
and under-appreciated.
1350
01:37:10,499 --> 01:37:15,660
My lasting memory of that cup
final is a sense of sadness.
1351
01:37:15,779 --> 01:37:21,539
It was the end of something wonderful,
so it's normal to feel sad.
1352
01:37:22,101 --> 01:37:24,821
But there was something else that troubled me.
1353
01:37:24,941 --> 01:37:30,901
The attempts to demolish and
destroy everything we'd achieved.
1354
01:37:31,019 --> 01:37:34,700
I don't understand the motivation.
Things had gone well and we'd won !
1355
01:37:34,822 --> 01:37:38,142
Surely that's what you hold onto,
that's what you remember.
1356
01:37:38,261 --> 01:37:42,422
But no, they didn't care
about what we'd achieved.
1357
01:37:42,542 --> 01:37:46,982
All they did was focus on the negatives.
1358
01:37:47,703 --> 01:37:49,823
I think the club's got a problem.
1359
01:37:52,463 --> 01:37:53,903
Barça is a bit strange in that respect.
1360
01:37:54,022 --> 01:37:56,902
I've learned the most important
thing in life is to be grateful ...
1361
01:37:57,024 --> 01:38:00,945
to the people who make
a difference in your life.
1362
01:38:01,063 --> 01:38:05,062
After everything he'd done for the club,
1363
01:38:05,183 --> 01:38:08,463
Guardiola didn't get
the recognition he deserved.
1364
01:38:15,304 --> 01:38:16,944
Announcing his departure at a press conference,
1365
01:38:17,062 --> 01:38:20,463
and then immediately revealing
who would replace him ...
1366
01:38:20,585 --> 01:38:25,825
in front of the whole squad
and the board members ...
1367
01:38:26,584 --> 01:38:30,105
I don't think it was the right way
to say goodbye to the boss.
1368
01:38:32,426 --> 01:38:34,546
On the advice of the director
of football, Andoni Zubizarreta,
1369
01:38:35,385 --> 01:38:37,745
and after consulting the board,
1370
01:38:37,866 --> 01:38:41,267
I can announce that the next
Barça coach will be Tito Vilanova.
1371
01:38:44,465 --> 01:38:46,545
I think they should build a
statue of Pep at the Camp Nou.
1372
01:38:47,667 --> 01:38:50,348
In the president's box.
1373
01:38:50,468 --> 01:38:52,068
That's what I think anyway.
1374
01:38:53,747 --> 01:38:55,787
The best way to remember Guardiola's Barça
1375
01:38:55,907 --> 01:38:58,707
is to put on a DVD and
watch the matches we played
1376
01:38:58,827 --> 01:39:02,747
during his four seasons here as manager.
1377
01:39:12,546 --> 01:39:13,706
He invented a new way of playing.
1378
01:39:13,788 --> 01:39:15,988
He had a special group of players,
1379
01:39:16,108 --> 01:39:18,349
but he knew exactly what to do with them.
1380
01:39:18,988 --> 01:39:21,268
He followed the philosophy of his maestro,
1381
01:39:21,388 --> 01:39:23,388
the man who taught us all, Johan Cruyff.
1382
01:39:47,950 --> 01:39:49,630
It's a bit like the best cars.
1383
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:52,670
Cruyff was the first great model, the Mark 1
1384
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:54,349
and Pep is the Mark 2.
1385
01:39:56,950 --> 01:40:02,790
But I think Xavi will be in the same league
1386
01:40:02,910 --> 01:40:04,870
when he returns as coach.
1387
01:40:04,990 --> 01:40:10,591
When he comes back, he'll be the Mark 3.
1388
01:40:12,032 --> 01:40:16,313
In my father's mind,
he was always el listo de la clase,
1389
01:40:16,431 --> 01:40:19,711
the intelligent one of the class,
the clever guy.
1390
01:40:19,832 --> 01:40:22,112
The only problem will be
that when already now ...
1391
01:40:22,233 --> 01:40:25,674
everybody is pumping this up,
then the pressure's too high.
1392
01:40:26,032 --> 01:40:28,392
But if he follows his way,
little by little,
1393
01:40:28,512 --> 01:40:30,872
calm, like Pep did,
then you're ready for it.
1394
01:40:30,993 --> 01:40:33,913
And I hope Xavi one day will do that.
1395
01:40:35,274 --> 01:40:36,594
Barça's future needs to be in the hands ...
1396
01:40:36,713 --> 01:40:42,793
of someone with Xavi's talent and vision.
1397
01:40:45,834 --> 01:40:50,553
I've got no doubt that he'll
be back as a coach one day.
1398
01:40:50,673 --> 01:40:54,954
He deserves the chance ...
1399
01:40:55,075 --> 01:40:57,195
because of the type of player he was here.
1400
01:40:57,315 --> 01:40:59,475
He'll make an amazing manager.
1401
01:40:59,593 --> 01:41:02,993
As a player he saw the whole
picture from the pitch.
1402
01:41:03,115 --> 01:41:05,755
I'm sure from the side-lines,
he'll see it even clearer.
1403
01:41:05,875 --> 01:41:07,395
He'll be back one day.
1404
01:41:07,516 --> 01:41:12,957
I don't know when but he wants to come back.
1405
01:41:13,076 --> 01:41:18,076
And he has the same football philosophy as Pep.
1406
01:41:20,276 --> 01:41:21,836
The world is watching us because
they see we're different.
1407
01:41:21,955 --> 01:41:24,556
And they're right, we are.
1408
01:41:24,676 --> 01:41:27,356
But now we have a huge responsibility
1409
01:41:27,475 --> 01:41:30,555
to ensure that all of this continues to grow.
1410
01:41:33,718 --> 01:41:37,078
The one thing that has never changed
1411
01:41:37,196 --> 01:41:41,957
in all my years here is
the way we play football.
1412
01:41:42,598 --> 01:41:47,957
Players come and go,
but the philosophy never changes.
1413
01:41:49,797 --> 01:41:51,278
We believe in this philosophy,
1414
01:41:51,398 --> 01:41:56,318
which is improved every year
and by each Barça manager.
1415
01:41:56,438 --> 01:41:58,358
But the day things start to go wrong,
1416
01:41:58,478 --> 01:42:01,719
and let's hope that isn't
for another 200 years,
1417
01:42:01,839 --> 01:42:04,679
but if it happens,
we must never consider ...
1418
01:42:04,798 --> 01:42:07,518
changing our playing style.
1419
01:42:07,638 --> 01:42:10,999
Our unique philosophy
should never change. Never.
1420
01:42:46,762 --> 01:42:47,962
This documentary can't end ...
1421
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:51,761
without asking you about your
memories of those four years.
1422
01:42:53,921 --> 01:42:58,241
When I think about that time it fills
me with nostalgia and happiness.
1423
01:42:59,243 --> 01:43:03,723
In my opinion, during those four years,
1424
01:43:03,842 --> 01:43:09,123
all the stars aligned at the perfect moment.
1425
01:43:09,724 --> 01:43:15,484
The fundamental reason for the success
was the immense talent of those players.
1426
01:43:16,922 --> 01:43:18,563
It's them who have to perform.
1427
01:43:18,683 --> 01:43:22,883
I like to use golf as an example,
because as managers we're caddies.
1428
01:43:23,004 --> 01:43:26,924
We hand the club to the player,
but they get the ball on the green,
1429
01:43:27,043 --> 01:43:28,364
and put it in the hole.
1430
01:43:42,443 --> 01:43:45,083
Everyone played their part
and everyone knew their role.
1431
01:43:45,205 --> 01:43:48,686
They all knew Messi was the best
and no one wanted to take his crown.
1432
01:43:48,805 --> 01:43:52,165
The home-grown players
had very important roles.
1433
01:43:52,284 --> 01:43:54,524
The foreign players played their part too.
1434
01:43:54,644 --> 01:43:58,325
It all unfolded naturally
without having to tell players,
1435
01:43:59,086 --> 01:44:04,806
"You have to do this
or you have to do that."
1436
01:44:05,367 --> 01:44:08,568
The roles within the group were shared out,
1437
01:44:08,687 --> 01:44:11,127
and if anyone didn't like it, they left.
1438
01:44:12,366 --> 01:44:18,247
That was how we built something special
and kept it going for so long.
1439
01:44:30,007 --> 01:44:31,047
I think we provoked an emotional reaction.
1440
01:44:31,168 --> 01:44:35,729
When you remember titles,
really they're just numbers
1441
01:44:35,850 --> 01:44:37,170
and nothing more.
1442
01:44:37,288 --> 01:44:42,168
But there were a lot of people
who really loved watching us play.
1443
01:44:58,930 --> 01:45:00,410
We all remember the two
Champions League finals,
1444
01:45:00,529 --> 01:45:01,849
especially the second one.
1445
01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:05,411
For around 20-25 minutes,
1446
01:45:05,530 --> 01:45:10,050
from the 46th minute until our third,
we were tremendous.
1447
01:45:10,171 --> 01:45:14,132
That was a perfect illustration
of how we wanted them to play.
1448
01:45:14,252 --> 01:45:18,052
We were a young group of coaches ...
1449
01:45:18,811 --> 01:45:21,491
trying to convince a team of unique players ...
1450
01:45:22,691 --> 01:45:26,931
to do something different and
it worked well for four years.
1451
01:45:34,373 --> 01:45:36,813
People become managers for
all kinds of different reasons.
1452
01:45:36,933 --> 01:45:39,173
My motivation is tactics.
1453
01:45:39,291 --> 01:45:41,211
That's why I became a coach,
1454
01:45:41,571 --> 01:45:44,572
to dissect the game and find solutions.
1455
01:45:45,453 --> 01:45:46,613
The basic concept,
1456
01:45:46,732 --> 01:45:53,733
which Johan Cruyff injected into our veins ...
1457
01:45:54,293 --> 01:45:56,853
many years ago,
1458
01:45:56,973 --> 01:46:00,933
was that doing the simple things
well gave you a 75% chance of winning.
1459
01:46:01,053 --> 01:46:03,814
And one of the simplest
things is passing the ball.
1460
01:46:03,934 --> 01:46:06,134
After that, things get more complicated.
1461
01:46:06,254 --> 01:46:08,614
But the pass is what unites the group.
1462
01:46:09,413 --> 01:46:13,934
The ball is moved around the pitch
from one player to another.
1463
01:46:14,055 --> 01:46:18,655
Everyone participates in the
game plan by making that pass.
1464
01:46:19,134 --> 01:46:22,894
That's what we worked on from day one.
1465
01:46:36,415 --> 01:46:39,535
I'm often asked if it was
the greatest team ever ...
1466
01:46:39,655 --> 01:46:41,376
or one of the greatest.
1467
01:46:41,497 --> 01:46:46,097
And it's a question that doesn't have an answer.
1468
01:46:46,216 --> 01:46:50,577
It's like a new book that's published,
is it good or not?
1469
01:46:50,698 --> 01:46:54,058
Or a new film that premieres,
is it any good?
1470
01:46:54,177 --> 01:46:56,017
We'll know the answer in 25 years.
1471
01:46:56,138 --> 01:46:58,778
It depends if people are still talking about us.
1472
01:46:58,898 --> 01:47:02,459
If after 25 years we're still
taking about a book, it's good.
1473
01:47:02,577 --> 01:47:05,337
If we're still watching a film
in 25 years time, it must be good.
1474
01:47:05,457 --> 01:47:07,137
The same will happen with our team.
1475
01:47:07,258 --> 01:47:12,779
But were we better than Sacchi's Milan
or Pelé's Brazil, or Johan's Ajax?
1476
01:47:13,298 --> 01:47:17,697
Everyone will have their opinion,
1477
01:47:17,817 --> 01:47:21,818
which they'll defend passionately.
1478
01:47:21,938 --> 01:47:24,378
I would tell you that my team was brilliant,
1479
01:47:24,499 --> 01:47:27,459
but Johan would argue that his team was better.
1480
01:47:27,579 --> 01:47:31,020
And Arrigo Sacchi would say
the same about his Milan side.
1481
01:47:31,138 --> 01:47:32,458
And we'd all be in the right.
1482
01:47:32,579 --> 01:47:35,019
But if they remember us in 25 years time,
1483
01:47:35,139 --> 01:47:37,259
they won't talk about the titles we won,
1484
01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:38,861
they'll talk about how we played.
1485
01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:42,540
If they remember us,
it's because they enjoyed watching us.
1486
01:47:42,660 --> 01:47:47,140
But that's the big mystery.
Will we be remembered or not?
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