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The Streets of San Francisco, a Quinnmark production.

Starring Carl Malden. Also starring Richard Hatch.

With guest stars Howard Duff, Max Gale,

Arlene Golonka,

Paul Stevens.

Alex Hantelon.

Special guest star, Tom Bosley.

Tonight's episode, Dead or Alive.

Why is it I never beat you at this game?

Because there's just got to be one thing in this world that I do better than

you. I almost believe you. But it's true. I mean, you've got the looks and

charm and the wit and all the men.

And all I got is a wicked serve and a great overhead smash.

So that's why you insist upon playing tennis twice a week.

Well, it's my way of getting even.

Tell you what I'm going to do.

I'll give you Bobby, Frank...

And George, if you teach me that wicked serve... Why, so you can get even with

me? No, so I can use it on my father.

He thinks he's so good at everything.

I want to knock him down just one nut.

Okay, it's a deal. I'll race you to the car.

You cheated, Daddy!

I can think of a better way to start the day.

Tell me. No, you tell me.

Name was Gail Dobbs.

She and a girl named Kathy Dineen were signed up for the court from 9 to 11 p

.m. Sometime between 11 and 11 .30, she was beaten, raped, and strangled. Where

is this Kathy Dineen? Ed Clark is picking her up.

Hmm.

Pretty girl.

Yeah.

Corner thinks she put up quite a struggle. There was skin under her

And three of them on her right hand were broken off.

Also, there's some fragments of glass on the ground over here, possibly from a

broken pair of glasses.

I talked to the guy who runs the courts, and he saw her car was still here when

he left at 11 .30.

It's the only one left in the lot.

Well, didn't he check it out? Says there's always a car or two left in the

overnight. Girl comes in her car, guy comes in his car, and then... And they

both leave in one car. I know.

Is that the Deneen girl?

She doesn't know anything. She didn't see anything or anybody, and she's on

verge of hysterics. Hysterics, huh?

Why don't I ask her a couple of questions, then you can take her home?

Oh, look, why don't you take a couple of men and canvass the neighborhood?

Anything that was open all night.

Gas station, coffee shop, anything at all.

Ask if they saw anyone who looked as though he might have been in a fight.

Did you, um, notify the family?

She's only got her father. He's out of town. They're trying to locate him.

Mike, he's a heavyweight. Lots of money.

Okay.

Why don't you see the manager? Get a list of all the people who played tennis

here last night. I think we're going to have to talk to all of them. Okay.

What route?

83. Does it run all night?

Thanks a lot.

Before the neighborhood canvas comes up zero.

What about forensic?

They said they'll have a prescription on the lens in a few hours, but the guy is

definitely near sight.

We have three teams checking out the people on the other courts. Nothing so

The Deneen girl said that there was a man washing from the other side of the

fence while they were playing tennis last night. Now, he interests me.

You have any ideas?

Yes. There's a bus route, a Route 83, that goes right by those tennis courts.

I think we ought to question the drivers who worked that route last night.

Yes, come in.

Lieutenant Stahl, I'm George Driscoll. Attorney, this is Larry Dobbs.

Mr. Dobbs, I'm very sorry.

Please sit down.

I'll be outside.

Yeah.

I want to know, Lieutenant, everything that happened.

Well, I won't be able to tell you the full detail until I get the medical

examiner's report.

Please.

If I can ask the question, I can deal with the answer.

What happened to my daughter?

Well, your daughter had multiple bruises on the face and head.

There was evidence of strangulation.

Was she raped?

Oh, my God.

I'm sorry. Sorry, Lieutenant.

I guess I wasn't as prepared as I thought I was.

I understand.

She was a perfect thing, Lieutenant.

Beautiful.

Graceful like her mother.

Perfect. Do you know who did it? Not yet, no.

I want whoever did it punished.

We'll find him, I promise you.

We've got five teams working on it right now.

Lieutenant, if there are any expenses, if there's any money you need to help

find him, I have it. I don't care how much it costs.

Just let me know and I'll write a check.

No, it won't be necessary.

I just feel that I should help in some way. I feel that there's... There must

something I can do.

Well, there is something you can do. It's not a very pleasant task, but...

someone has to go down to the morgue and make a positive identification of...

Remains.

Why don't you let me take care of that?

No, no, no.

I'll do it.

Well... Thank you, Lieutenant.

And, uh... I would appreciate it if you'd let me know when you have

I know it's not procedure. I'll let you know.

Thank you.

Good job.

Well, what's that?

The names of the bus drivers on Route 83 last night. Ferenga, Holzman, Scott.

What took you so long?

Oh, well, you know, a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

Are you all right, Larry?

I don't believe it.

Except that I just looked at her.

She's really dead.

And that bag of garbage who did it is still alive.

Let it be, Larry.

What are the chances of them ever finding him, George?

Well, it's a good department.

Stone is a good cop.

I've seen him around over the years.

Must be something I can do.

Larry, the best thing you can do is just go home.

Let everybody do their jobs.

It's on, Ferenga. Yeah. What did I do?

It's not what you did. It's what you might have seen that interests us.

Ain't nobody going to read my rights or nothing? You know, I always wanted

somebody to do that. Come on, read me my rights. Now, you don't have any rights.

I don't have any rights. No, that's right.

You're a witness, not a suspect.

Oh, that's pretty good. Now, look, come on in and have a seat. I've only got 11

minutes before I take the thing back out in the jungle again. No, thanks. Huh?

We just saw the other two. You're the third man that works there at Route 83,

right? Yeah, I always double up on my shifts.

Over time.

Hey, you know...

What it costs to put braces on a kid's teeth these days.

Listen, do you know by any chance what time you went by those tennis courts

along that route?

Was it between 9 and 11? Yeah, it's twice.

It's only an hour and 50 minute route.

Did you notice anyone hanging around the place? Someone that might not belong?

You mean like girl watchers? Well, they always hang around the tennis court. You

know, when I'm driving by, sometimes I slow down and take a little peek myself.

Yeah, but last night.

Well, what is this all about, anyway?

Well, a girl was raped and killed. What about this man?

Well, he was a man. He was driving a bread truck,

and he was watching the girls on the back court. So you mentioned the bread

truck.

He was parked in the bus zone, and I had to stop in the middle of the street.

Parisian bread, I think.

Was he wearing glasses?

Yeah. He was big.

Can you identify him?

Give us a full description.

Well, like I said, he was big. He was over six foot. He was white. He had on a

uniform. And he also had on some very thick horn -rimmed glasses.

Give him a break.

Down. They're only about 15.

You should look that good, Rhoda. I did when I was 15.

Yeah, well, that's been a few years.

Not that many.

You don't look that bad, Rhoda.

Not for the mileage.

The usual wear and tear.

Okay, Buster, you've had your fun.

Now you better say something nice before I get mad.

Let's go to my place tonight.

Say it.

Just, uh, you and me?

A pepperoni pizza?

You better say it.

You're beautiful.

Let's make it my place.

I do.

I'd like to have a list of everyone who went out with trucks last night.

That's 15.

Look, fellas, I'm on my lunch break. I mean, it'll at least take a half hour to

get that list.

Not if you hurry.

What kind of wait till after lunch? Look, there's an easy way and there's a

way. We've been doing it the easy way so far.

All right, all right.

Only because I don't need no trouble.

But it ain't right.

It never is. Would you get that list, please?

What are you getting so hard notes for?

Just following your lead, boss.

Mr. Black.

Three are over 60, and one is 5 '2". Of the other five, these three are records.

This one here really lays it nice.

Don Wilton.

Four previous, two for rape.

He beat both cases.

Never did any time.

You think we can pull a blood type on him? Well, there's a hospital record on

one of the assault charges. That's my next stop. Okay, I'll take these prints

down to the lab for a comparison.

Did you get an address on this guy? Not yet. He moved last week. We should have

it by tomorrow.

This the file? Yeah, looks good.

What have you got?

Well, on the glasses, the guy is nearsighted. The best estimate is 40

Good. I've got to get these down to the lab.

Where did you get these, Larry?

I bought a file clerk.

Are the facts correct?

Well, it's an official record.

They had this guy twice for rape, George.

And he's never spent a day in jail.

Not one.

It's a difficult charge to prove, Larry.

Maybe the women involved refused to go to court and testify.

What about this time?

Can they make it stick this time? Can they send this guy to jail? That

On what?

On the evidence.

Which means there's a chance he could walk away from this one too, is that it?

can't say. That's why we have courts.

I know all about the courts.

From them you get a lot of law and damn little justice.

Larry... And I want justice, George. I want a full measure of justice for this

man. What you want is vengeance.

Call it whatever you like.

The police haven't even picked him up yet. He's still on the streets.

Well, if they're not going to do anything about him, I am.

I want 5 ,000.

Exactly like the proof copy.

That picture, nice and clear. Yes, sir.

Offset printing will give you a good gray scale.

I want the whole town papered with these posters when the sun comes up.

Well, that'll take some doing. I don't care how many people you have to hire or

how much you have to pay them. Just get it done.

Are you sure this is legal?

You let me worry about that.

If anybody asks you...

Just tell him you thought it was a practical joke.

Please don't move.

I'm the superintendent here.

Where's Don Wilson?

I don't know. I was waiting for him. With a shotgun?

Well, that's in case he tried anything. A man's got a right to defend himself.

And he's dangerous.

Look, Mr... Zabrocki. Mr. Zabrocki, you tend to the building. We'll take care of

Mr. Wilson, okay?

Do you know where we can find him?

No, I don't.

Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

Withholding information from the police is a felony. Do you know that?

Why should I tell you guys anything when somebody's willing to pay a million

bucks for it? What are you talking about?

I'll tell you what I'm talking about.

Here.

Where'd you get this?

They're all over the place. The whole neighborhood is papered with them.

Thanks for the help.

Come on.

his phone number at the bottom next to ours? I certainly do. Larry Dobbs.

I hope his phones get all jammed.

This switchboard is probably lit up like a Christmas tree.

What I'm afraid of is that somebody will try to shoot him.

There's always some cowboy around that thinks he can do it all by himself.

But he's going to have to shoot fast because if Walton has seen these, he's

the move and he's going to make himself hard to find. Just what we needed.

He'll probably start looking for his friends or family.

A man with a million dollars on his head doesn't have any friends.

Let's start looking for his family. Give me the key.

I'm going to have a little talk with Don.

Hey, Don.

How you doing, brother?

Hurry.

What happened? Did you get laid off again?

No, I just run into Naren.

Hey, where are you going? Come on, I'll give you a ride. No, no, no.

I want to go for a walk.

I'll see you later.

Get in that car and do it right now.

What are you doing there?

You better do what I say now. Get in that car.

Don't kill me. Don't kill me. What are you doing?

It's him.

This is the guy. He's worth a million bucks.

Now, I'm not implying that the police aren't doing their job, but they can

work efficiently if they have the full cooperation and assistance of the

citizens of San Francisco.

The reward I offer is an obvious incentive, a cry for help. Whoever gets

gets the money.

That's all I have to say.

Mr. Dobbs. Lieutenant.

Can I talk to you for a minute?

Of course.

Are you responsible for this?

Don't answer that, Larry.

Lieutenant, I told you I want that man caught and punished.

Well, let me tell you we might have caught him if it hadn't been for these.

I don't want mights. I want results.

I want Wilton captured.

You don't want him captured. You want him dead.

You want an old -fashioned hanging party.

That's a choice I made optional, Lieutenant.

Anyway, it's too late.

What's done is done. Not quite.

You're under arrest. Now it's done.

Wait a minute, Stone.

You wait a minute.

You'll have your chance when it gets to court.

Well, I want to know on what charge.

Petal code section 652.

Offering a reward for the capture of a person dead or alive.

Now, you do know that's a state crime, don't you? It's a misdemeanor.

I looked it up, George.

Come on, let's go.

I'll be out on bail in an hour.

You know, you probably will.

But if anyone takes these things seriously and kills Wilton, I promise

you'll be right back in again.

For complicity.

Let's go.

Hey, Rhoda.

What are you doing here?

Saw the poster.

Sure, you can't miss them.

Is it true what they say?

No way, babe.

I've got to stay hidden now. Can I get a straighten out?

Rhoda, I need some money.

Money? Yeah, for a lawyer.

Get back. I'll see you.

Boy, why me?

What makes me the lucky one, huh?

You are kind of my girl, aren't you?

My purse is inside.

I got about 50 bucks I can give you.

Thanks, babe.

Sure.

You remember Whitman, don't you? The guy in the poster?

Yeah, only it's too bad I don't know where that weirdo is.

Now look, if I put him in your hands, will you split the money with me?

You serious?

Just answer me, will you split?

Yeah, I'll split.

He's in the back of the alley.

Look, remember we split, huh?

What did you find?

Not much. No friends to speak of. His father's dead, but his mother's alive.

Used to be a nurse.

Only the hospital didn't have a foreign address for her.

Another dead end. Well, maybe not. One of the nurses who works there was a

friend of the mother's, but she won't be on duty for another three hours.

All cars vicinity of Bay and 7.

Homicide suspect identified as Donald Wilton. Fled on foot.

West on basement.

Suspect was wearing leather jacket, woolen stocking caps, dark blue or

Here's his ID.

Just take it easy.

We'll take you to the hospital after you're booked.

For what?

We caught that killer. We got a million bucks coming. No, no, I'll tell you what

you got. You got the wrong man.

He fits the description. I'll tell you what else you got.

You got yourself criminal charges and maybe even manslaughter if the man dies.

I thought it was him.

Well, you thought wrong.

A merchant seaman, just off the boat two hours.

We were only trying to help. We?

I bet you didn't even think of sharing the reward.

How many chances have you had to come up with a million bucks?

How many?

How many times in your life?

I'll tell you how many. None. The same as with me.

So you give me the smell of that much money.

Just the smell of it.

And I'm going to do whatever it takes.

And it's not just me either.

Every cabbie in this town is looking for that guy.

And every bus driver, every pedestrian, every time a guy's looking out the

window, he's looking for that killer.

It's not just me.

It's everybody.

Maybe.

But it's you I'm going to put in jail.

All right. He's all yours. Book him.

This is Emily Salter, S -A -L -T -E -R.

Your dog wet?

Yeah, I know all about the reward.

Thank you so much for your cooperation.

She says Wilton is washing the windows of her apartment right now.

You know, this belongs in the garbage, but if I don't send a car down there,

she's going to be calling back all day long.

I'm sorry I had to put you on the phones, Eddie, but we needed a calm,

experienced head. Oh, I can see it coming all the way from Cincinnati.

You're right.

I'm going to ask you to pull another double shift.

We're short of manpower.

Half the city is chasing the other half around with guns.

I tell you, if we don't find Wilton soon, there won't be enough people

pay the taxes.

Sure, Mike. What the heck? If I can't make the million, at least I can make

overtime.

Yellow. Mike, for you on line three.

Homicide stone.

Mike? Dad?

The nurse hasn't seen Wilton's mother in over a year. No address.

But you did tell me the mother's been working in a home for senior citizens.

She gets her calls from an employment agency.

Which one?

That's a good question.

Have you got a good answer?

Of course. I'm working on it. Well, keep digging.

Oh, no.

Don't make a move.

I want you to get up, and I want you to put your hands over your head.

Don't shoot, Pop. I said stand up!

Don't shoot.

I didn't do nothing.

You did enough.

You know, I know who.

You're the one they want on that poster.

You're worth it. five thousand dollars a pound there was uh another guy

he looks just like me i want you to move real slow and i want you to keep your

hands over your head now don't cry

because i don't want to shoot you

You got him.

You got the bankroll. That's right. I got him in warehouse four.

Come on. I'll give you a hand with him. Look, keep your eyes front.

I'm going to take him up to my booth and I'm going to call the cops. You're

crazy. The cops will jump on the reward.

Wait a minute.

Well, get over there.

Get over there.

Cops can't collect rewards. Don't you listen to the radio?

Don't be crazy, Pop. They always got a way to fool you. Look, we'll put him in

the car and take him to that Dobbs guy. No!

No, he belongs to me.

Cut it out, will you? There's enough in here for both of us.

drawing quite a crowd.

Anybody see which way he went?

If they did, they're not the same.

If the word is out, Wilton shot the watchman.

How did the word get out that fast?

Some repairman that works in the neighborhood.

He ran down the street telling everybody Wilton killed an old man.

The watchman dead?

No. He was alive when he left.

How long have they been around?

It was a tie, me and them.

If I managed to get the gate locked in time, they'd probably show here with

bloodhounds. Anybody in that posse see which way the repairman went?

You want us to ask?

No, no, no.

Never mind.

They wouldn't cooperate anyway.

They'd become their own homicide department.

Only they work for Dobbs.

And a reward.

Defamation of Karen looks like no look.

Maybe you'd better go back to the barn and ask. We don't have anything to do

with a reward.

It's like a merry -go -round in here.

Everybody's going for the gold ring.

Charlie, we can't over... The money is an escrow, Lieutenant.

My name is on that reward poster. I made a promise, and I intend to keep it. Do

you know what your promise has done to this city?

Innocent people are being hurt by other innocent people who are blinded by the

fact that they could collect a million dollars. I can't change human nature,

Lieutenant.

I don't want to see people hurt or be put in jail.

All I want is the man that killed my daughter, and I'm willing to pay for it.

That's where my responsibility ends.

What other people do is their own business.

Lieutenant Stone is right, Larry.

Call it off.

It's gone on far enough.

The reward stays.

Was there anything else?

No.

He's not doing this for his daughter.

He's doing it for himself.

It was a guilt or vengeance or a twisted idea of justice. I don't know. She's

just the excuse he gives himself.

Well, never mind all that. What did you get from the employment agency?

Uh, nothing yet. I'm checking with the DMV to see if she owns or drives a motor

vehicle. Well, keep checking.

I've got to talk to the chief. Seems like Mr.

Dobbs there, he called them on the phone. More pressure.

Oh, sure. Can you hold on a second?

Say, Mike, you're coming back any time soon. Would you mind bringing me a

beef on rye, please? Have any luck?

Yeah, I've got Wilton on the phone right now.

Yeah, uh, listen, you're the sixth Wilton to call today.

You think you can convince me?

You've got to help me.

Everybody's trying to kill me, man.

I can't see nothing.

What about it?

The seeing part, I mean, don't you have glasses?

They're broken.

How did they get broken?

I broke the right lens there.

Listen, do you know what's wrong with your eyes?

I'm nearsighted.

40 over 60.

Where are you? We'll send some of our people down to pick you right up. Wait,

uh... What's your name?

Clark, Inspector Edmund Clark.

Uh... You come.

You, I got you.

I'll... Just you.

Listen, I can have some with her in a couple of minutes and it'll be all over.

Just you, okay?

Okay, okay. Where are you?

Hey, uh, cops can't collect rewards, right?

No, they can't. You sure?

I'm very sure.

Now, where are you?

At the Presidio.

That bunker up over the bridge.

Yeah.

Ma 'am, I do like cats. Yes, please understand.

We do like kittens and cats and all the rest, but...

Not now, lady. I told you a hundred times. We're not doing that today.

Tom?

Eddie Clark.

Yeah, long time no see.

Just fine.

Look, I'm going to do you a big favor.

You know where Bryant Street headquarters is?

Well, meet me outside in five minutes.

Listen, you want to split a million bucks or not?

That's right.

The guy on the poster.

Five hundred thousand.

Wow. Sure I can do it. I remember now. You were passing the bunker. You just

happened to see him and you grabbed him. As far as I'm concerned, I never got

the call.

Just take him to the newspapers.

I love it. No sweat. I can do it.

There's nothing to do except pick the guy up and give him a ride.

I'll handle it. Don't worry.

Wait a minute. What is this?

It's just in case. You don't need a gun. The guy's trying to surrender.

I heard on television he shot a watchman. He's supposed to be carrying a

I'm telling you, you don't need it.

You know, I'll just feel better with it.

I can't. I gotta get back.

Is Mike still with the chief?

As far as I know.

Anything doing?

Tell him that I made a contact with someone who knows the name of the

agency. But Wilton's mother is remarried and has a new name. I'll call in as

soon as I get him.

Anything coming in on the phones?

Headaches. And crease marks on the seat of my pants.

I had to stretch my legs or I'd go stir crazy.

Better get used to it. Another year and that's all you'll have to do. That and

collect checks.

Eleven months and four days to be exact.

sweet retirement.

You, Clark?

You ready to go?

I'm tired of running. No place to hide.

Don't try anything.

You're not a cop.

Give me the gun.

You're one of those headhunters. I'll throw a reward.

Don't make any wrong moves or I'll shoot. What happened to the cop? What's

name? Give me the gun.

Sure.

Might as well get it over with.

Lewis, get line four, will you?

Johnson, just tell him you can't make a citizen's arrest on the phone. And then

tell him to go back to bed.

No, no, soon.

Yeah, I'll be home soon.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm sorry, too.

What?

No, no, don't bother, honey. I'm not very hungry.

Do you wanna talk to me?

You don't have to, you know.

Yeah, Mike, I wanna talk.

I just came from the hospital.

He's dead, isn't he?

He died 20 minutes ago.

I tried to tell him not to take a gun.

He was an old friend of mine.

He and his wife, Betty and Helen and I used to play poker once a month.

Until they started having kids.

It was the money, Mike. It was so much money.

So what happens now?

You're through.

All these years on the force, over 24 of them, I get hungry just once.

And it's all blown.

With Wilton still loose, you're the only man I can blame for it.

No breaks?

Would you give a man a break?

I would like to go home for a little while.

See Helen.

Am I under arrest?

You can go home and pull it all together.

Then come back down here and turn yourself into the desk.

Why me?

Why couldn't somebody else have answered that phone?

Homicide stone.

Put your soul out.

Well, I usually shave and have a cup of coffee before I leave the house in the

morning. What have you got?

I located the mother's address. She's living under the name of Thompson over

North Beach. Well, why didn't you say so? I could have skipped the shave.

I hope you skipped the coffee. I'll survive, but you won't if you offer me

of that carrot juice you drink.

What's the address?

I'll see.

Don, it's 8 o 'clock.

Donnie?

You said to get Jeff at 8 o 'clock.

Are you all right?

Yeah, I'm fine.

Fix me something to eat, will you?

I've got some eggs.

How do you want them?

Anyway, I'm starving.

Is it true?

What's that?

What they said on TV.

About the killings.

I think I like those eggs sunny side up.

Oh, Donnie, why are you always in trouble?

Mom, it's a lie.

They gotta blame somebody, so they're blaming it on me.

Then why don't you go to the police and talk to them? I tried that.

I called them. They tried to kill me.

I got to get out of the country.

You got to help me.

I don't know how to get you out of the country.

You got any money?

That's all it takes is money.

Maybe $30.

Well, get it.

I need your car keys, Sue.

I need the car, Donnie, to get to work. I'm asking you to save my life. You're

telling me about going to work?

Give me the keys!

Come on.

I gotta get dressed.

Well, don't stand there staring at me. like I'm some sort of bug.

1933.

Mrs. Thompson?

I'm coming.

I'd like to talk to you for a minute.

About what?

I'm sure you know what.

My son? He's not here.

Oh, my God.

Call for help.

units to respond to a foot chase is falling in curson the suspect is donald

wilton wanted for murder

Police! Drop it!

You heard me, I said drop it! Get out of there! Get out of there! He's mine!

Drop it!

Drop that gun!

Stop him for you. Who gave you the license to kill him? All right, but I

want a million bucks. You can't take that away from me. No, I can't. But if

lives, you're going to spend most of it on lawyers. And if he dies, you might

not be around to enjoy it.

Come on, book him.

Crazy people.

No, just people.

Like Dobbs said, human nature, sometimes it goes sour.

When it does, that's when they need us the most.

Come on, let's get out of here.

Lieutenant?

Let's let bygones be bygones. No hard feelings, okay?

Well, it worked out, didn't it? It's over.

No.

It's not over for a sailor who's in the hospital.

Or for the people who put him there who might go to jail.

There's a watchman on the critical list. Tom Springer is dead. And Ed Clark is

through as a cop.

After 24 years of on the service.

Can it be over for them? And the man who shot Wilton who's up for charges.

Maybe even manslaughter.

I didn't tell him to pull the trigger. It was his choice.

That's right.

It was their greed. You're right.

Who baited the hook?

Wilton deserves to die.

No. He deserves a trial.

A trial.

That's legal mumbo -jumbo. Probably sounds that way until it's you that's on

trial. Then it begins to sound pretty good.

Look, Mr. Dobbs.

If I were you, I'd get the best medical care for Wilton that your money can buy.

What are you talking about?

If he dies...

The DA's gonna charge you with first -degree murder.

According to the penal code, all I did was commit a misdemeanor.

I'll see you in court.

I tried to warn you, Larry.

Don't warn me, just defend me.

You think the DA can make the murder charge stick?

Well, to tell you the truth, Daniel, I don't think he knows.

But he's gonna try, and we're gonna help.