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[dramatic music]

[gunshots]

[screaming][Jim Jones Jr.] Dad's been shot.

Our leader's been gunned down.

People were screaming,

"Father's shot! Father's shot!"

[Jim Jones Jr.] There's blood flowing from his chest.

[Wagner-Wilson] Then they rushed everybody

into the temple.

We're scared because we don't know if someone else

is out there shooting.

Was it one shooter? Was it more than one shooter?

And so we're in the temple,

and people are just in a panic

that we might lose Father.

A mourn quiet comes over the whole community.

[Stephan Jones] I was really afraid.

The idea of outside threat,

the idea of them and us,

that if you weren't with us, you were against us.

That was the message we heard constantly.

[doors open]

[Wagner-Wilson] The doors opened,

and one of Jim's security

was carrying this shirt with blood.

[Jim Jones Jr.] There's red stains on it,

and there's two holes

that you can put a finger through.

[Wagner-Wilson] And Jim's behind him,

but there's not a mark on him.

He's healed himself.

[Jim Jones, recording] You can put me into the noose,

you can hang my body,

but I'll spring up again.

You cannot stamp me out!

I'm here to stay!

[people cheering]

People are in a frenzy.

I mean, crying,

joyful, ecstatic.

It was-- the energy was just, it was just electric.

And we're thinking, oh, my God, Father healed himself.

[Jim Jones] You've never seen anyone

shot down as I was, before your eyes,

with blood spurting from the body

and healed himself?

Yet I, a socialist worker, did that.

[cheering]

How many believe that I am the savior?

[cheering]

The only savior?

[cheers and applause]

[Wagner-Wilson] They were convinced

that this man is God.

[Jim Jones Jr.] It brought people together.

He was going to be the force,

the person,

who was gonna lead us to the promised land.

[dramatic music]

It wasn't until later

that I knew that that was fake.

[Stephan] Later on, I learned from my mother

how that had gone down and that

blanks were fired,

uh, to fake this, this attack.

I don't know how it was faked,

but my father was always looking for ways to create drama

so that he could be the savior

and the champion within all that drama.

[Wagner-Wilson] Everything he did was a test

to see how many people were gonna stay...

and how many people were gonna leave.

So every moment he's pushing the envelope a little bit,

you know, a little bit further, right?

[Jim Jones Jr.] People were true believers.

And you wanted to be

because you were going to change the world.

[Gosney] I believed in him 100%,

and I believed in who he said he was.

I would follow Jim Jones anywhere, and I did.

[dramatic music]

[Gosney] When we moved to San Francisco,

things went to the next level.

[Jeff Guinn] Peoples Temple is getting more people,

they're getting more money, the fame is spreading.

But you can only go so far in Redwood Valley.

[Jim Jones] In San Francisco, we have more political strength,

and that's important.

You've got the backing of some people.

If we build outside of the city,

we don't have that backing.

[Guinn] In San Francisco,

he is going to gradually insinuate himself

until he becomes a power broker.

โ™ชโ™ช

[cars honking]

[Kilduff] I first heard of Peoples Temple

when I was a part-time writer for the Chronicle

back in the early '70s.

[flash bulb popping]

They would turn out big crowds at rallies.

[indistinct chanting]

The city was full of groups

that had shown they weren't happy with conventional life.

[indistinct chanting]

Jones very much played into that.

He was a new guy with a new message with a new act.

[Jim Jones] This country will not be safe

until we do something to share the wealth

and share it completely and fairly

and democratically and peacefully. [cheering]

[Kilduff] He donated money, he participated in causes,

he cultivated friends in a very clever way.

He rose fast as a political power.

[Jim Jones Jr.] Jim Jones was known as a person,

if you had a political activism going on,

call Jim Jones, get him involved.

And Jim Jones had to see

how he could manipulate it for himself.

Reverend Jones, how do you account for

such an avid following as you seem to have?

I'm principled. I'm dedicated to my people.

He loved the attention.

You know, he loved to be mingling with

the crรจme de la crme,

the politicians in San Francisco.

He was thriving in that.

[Carter] Rosalynn Carter was in the city to campaign for her husband,

and where she was at, there weren't that many people

that showed up, and so somebody called up Jones and said,

"Can you get some people here?"

And so he filled up three buses

and drove everybody down there,

and all of a sudden there was a big crowd,

and on the news it was "Look at the warm reception

"that Rosalynn Carter is receiving

here in San Francisco."

[Jim Jones Jr.] And Rosalynn Carter met with him privately

to talk about his political involvement

in Jimmy Carter's election.

So much to where he got an invite to the inauguration.

[eerie music]

[Guinn] The legend of Jim Jones

and Peoples Temple is out there.

And money comes pouring in.

I'm very much interested in...

[Guinn] He's becoming more and more popular.

The newspapers cover him like a celebrity.

[flash bulb popping]

In San Francisco,

you've got Willie Mays,

you got the jazz scene,

and now, all of a sudden, you've got Jim Jones.

[Stephan] My father was always grandiose,

far back as I can remember,

and that grandiosity only grew

as the temple grew.

He was always managing his image of himself.

Because he was always at war with that voice inside of him,

I believe, that was telling him

he wasn't enough, he was a fraud.

And I think that's where drugs

really came in much more heavily.

[eerie music]

[Guinn] Jim Jones had always been mistrustful of most people,

but the rampant drug use increased his paranoia.

As the Temple grew,

Jones felt like he's losing touch

with rank and file members.

He feels as though some of his people may betray him.

So he creates the Planning Commission.

[Dr. Mary McCormick Maaga] The Planning Commission was made up

of the leadership of People's Temple.

โ™ชโ™ช

And they were the ones who were closest to Jim Jones personally.

They were the ones that were making decisions about

the day to day operations of People's Temple.

[Guinn] At their meetings, it gives Jones a chance

to sit there and listen to what people are talking about

and get some sense of the way "his people" are feeling.

[dramatic music]

[Johnston Kohl] I was on the Planning Commission for five years.

During a Planning Commission meeting,

I'd pass around a paper,

and people who had information

about how somebody was doing

would write down notes.

I'd type it up and then give it to Jim

and the secretaries.

It became more of a spying on you thing.

[eerie music]

[Gosney] The Planning Commission at the People's Temple,

as far as I was concerned,

was an enforcement agency.

If you got called to the Planning Commission,

you were in some serious, serious trouble.

[Wagner-Wilson] There was a consequence to any infraction,

whether it be, you fell asleep during a meeting,

someone reported that you were having affair with someone else.

[Gosney] I was called to the Planning Commission.

I had just gotten my ears pierced.

Jim Jones said, "Well, what did you do that for?

How bourgeois is that?"

And I, I made some remark, and they all just jumped me.

[angry shouting]

All these people starting pounding me and stuff

and, I think, ripped the earrings out.

I was not considered by Jim Jones

as one of the faithful.

I got in trouble a lot.

[overlapping chatter]

[sighing] It's so sickening.

I can't hardly talk about it.

And then it gets to...

the boxing matches.

You're gonna have an opponent

that would beat on someone

that was not even a physical match to them.

It would get bloody.

They're not supposed to even fight back,

you're just supposed to get beat.

And Jim, he would laugh over this type of thing,

that sinister laugh he had.

[Jim Jones laughing]

[laughter continues]

Jim Jones had a sadistic quality,

he absolutely did.

He enjoyed that type of thing.

It was like a gladiator sport to him, I think.

[Grace Stoen] They set up the counseling department

and eventually I got made head counselor.

And I'll never forget, one night in a meeting,

I saw somebody

very severely beaten.

And I saw them the next day

professing their love for Jim Jones

as they were walking in the church.

And I looked at them and I said to myself,

"I don't ever want to be broken

and in this situation as a broken person."

I'd rather be dead

than to live the rest of my life

in this situation.

I knew I had to leave.

โ™ชโ™ช

[Jeff Guinn] From the time he organized

his first storefront church in Indianapolis,

Jones took it personally any time anybody left.

He couldn't stand it.

[Maaga] Because loyalty was the greatest value within Peoples Temple,

defection was the greatest sin.

There was always the fear that anybody that left

would be utilized by the enemies

to help tear down Peoples Temple.

[Guinn] He preaches that once you're in with us,

you're part of us forever.

[cheering]

He has members sign statements

claiming that they had done all sorts of terrible things,

from committing cold-blooded murder

to planning the assassination

of the President of the United States.

[Stoen] I signed blank pieces of paper,

I signed pieces of paper that I wanted to kill the President.

I signed pieces of paper that I molested my child.

Try being in a room with 50 people,

and you're asked to sign a blank piece of paper

and say, "No, I'm not gonna sign it."

If you didn't sign it, they're like,

"Oh, are you thinking about leaving?

Should we be concerned about you?"

[Guinn] He's got something on everyone.

All of it manufactured.

But making it clear, "If you leave this church,

we'll make it hard on you."

I was done.

Spent.

[flash bulb popping]

[Kilduff] Grace Stoen was Peoples Temple royalty.

She had a child while in the church.

Jones claimed the child as his.

She knew a lot about church activities,

she was very informed on how the church operated.

But then the personal stuff, the beatings,

were just too heavy a memory and an experience

for her to ignore.

[faint radio chatter]

[Stoen] I'll never forget, we were on a cross-country trip

and one of the members came to me and he said,

"Grace, please stop acting out, stop acting up."

He said, "They're talking about you.

"They're gonna get you when we get back

and they're gonna beat you up."

And I said to myself,

"I'll never allow myself to get beaten."

I knew I had to leave.

[tense music]

And, uh, I just gathered some stuff.

I didn't tell anyone I was leaving.

I snuck out.

And I ended up escaping with one of the bus drivers.

We were told to leave the state

because we were going to be hunted down and killed

if we ever left.

[Guinn] She left the temple

but leaving her son behind.

She knew that she couldn't probably pry him loose

and get away like that.

[sorrowful music]

It was hard.

It was, it was very har--

very devastating for me.

โ™ชโ™ช

And we left on July 3rd

and I'll never forget, we woke up

to what we thought were gunshots.

[loud banging]

We sat up and we went,

"Oh, my God, they've already found us."

Only to realize it was firecrackers.

It was 4th of July.[bottle rocket whistling]

[Guinn] Every time someone would leave,

Jones would absolutely lose it.

Jones was so paranoid about the loyalty of his people,

he decided he would give the Planning Commission members

the ultimate test.

โ™ชโ™ช

We're having a Planning Commission meeting in San Francisco.

Meeting starts,

and the ranch

had a small vineyard

that was part of the property that was there.

So on this night, he said,

"We have some wine from the ranch.

Everybody's invited to have some."

There were Styrofoam cups,

like, half filled with wine.

Drank the wine.

And, like, five minutes later, Jones says,

"You've all just been poisoned."

[eerie music]

So immediately, inside, my adrenaline starts running.

[muffled commotion]

People were yelling and screaming.

Jones says, you have an hour to live.

โ™ชโ™ช

Jim Jones says, "You've all just been poisoned."

[eerie music]

"You have an hour to live."

[Jeff Guinn] Jones says, "No one leaves."

And the minutes go by.

People start saying, "I can feel myself dying,

I'm feeling faint."

So after about 45 minutes, Jones says,

"Okay, well, you haven't all been poisoned."

"This was a test to see how you handle death."

โ™ชโ™ช

So I thought, okay,

he's teaching people what it's like to face your own mortality,

your own death.

That's how I rationalized that.

And I want to make it clear,

that it was a rationalization on my part.

[Guinn] Not one of them grabbed Jones by the throat,

you know, "You son of a bitch."

There was none of that reaction.

He had people that much cowed,

that much under his control.

[Stephan] He really enjoyed seeing what people did.

And it was a test of loyalty, right?

"Are these people really willing to just lay down

now that I've told them I've killed them?"

He was very sadistic at that point.

[Carter] Looking back on it,

I think the appropriate response would've been,

"This is a crazy M.F.,

and it's time for me to get out of Dodge."

[Maaga] It's clear that as early as 1974,

that Jim Jones realizes that

some of the practices of Peoples Temple

cannot be sustained.

The punitive practices with people.

The paranoid practices.

All of these things eventually mean

that law enforcement is gonna come in

and break up Peoples Temple.

He needed a place that they could escape to

in case criticism became too great,

and in case Jim Jones himself

was in danger of being arrested.

โ™ชโ™ช

[Guinn] He loves Guyana 'cause it's socialist,

it's mostly minority,

because it's the only country in South America

where the national language is English.

He ultimately works out a deal with the Guyanese government

and sends a crew out to start building Jonestown.

โ™ชโ™ช

[Carter] So it started in '74.

I think there was, like, seven guys that went down there.

All of them had some heavy equipment experience.

[Stephan] We cleared a lot of land

and we built a lot of structures

in very short time.

It was hard, hard work.

[Guinn] They are trying to build a village

that would be able to hold about 500 people,

to live there, to work there,

to feed them from the crops, and so forth.

โ™ชโ™ช

It's the hottest part of the entire year

and, uh, they're doing real well.

When I first heard about Jonestown was 1974.

Jim Jones had just come back from Guyana

and was giving a talk about Jonestown,

and it's going to be an agricultural community.

โ™ชโ™ช

[Jim Jones] Back over here is the area

we're clearing for more planting.

Potatoes and carrots and eddoes

and, uh, papaya.

[Wagner-Wilson] We could grow our own food

and there would be a community,

and there wouldn't be any violence or racism.

And it was going to be "the Promised Land."

Darrin, how do you like it here in the Promised Land?

My name is Anthony Simon, I'm here in the Promised Land.

My name is Don Swonie,

and, um, I'm grateful to be down here.

I'm working on our fishing trawler

and I enjoy going down the rivers and meeting new people.

It is more freer down here and it's more beautiful.

[inspiring music]

[laughing]

โ™ชโ™ช

This is a walking stick, friends.

But that's a gentle guy.

Walking stick.

[chatter and laughter]

Jim Jones said to be able to go to Jonestown

was a privilege.

It was... a reward to go there.

[Stephan] The time that I spent there building the town

that our community was going to come live in,

was one of the happiest times of my life

up to that point.

[Jim Jones] We are going to have peace

in our Promised Land valley.

Now, in retrospect, I know much of what he said at that time

was just a flat-out lie.

[dramatic music]

[faint traffic noise]

[flashbulb snaps]

[Marshall Kilduff] I was a city hall reporter in San Francisco.

I noticed Jones had a lot of events,

where he would bring in huge numbers of people

for inconsequential meetings.

So that piqued my curiosity.

Why does he behave this way?

Isn't it unusual for a religious figure to travel

in this kind of exalted way?

I thought there was more to Jim Jones.

So I went to a local California magazine at the time

called "New West," and they said,

"Um, okay, let's see what you got."

[Stoen] I had heard Marshall Kilduff had been looking for me.

And Jeannie and Al Mills,

who had defected before I did,

called me one night and they said,

"We're gonna do an article."

And I said that I would, too,

that I wasn't gonna let 'em do it alone,

that I would speak as well.

[Kilduff] The ex-members,

the folks who had fled the church said,

"Here's what you don't know."

[phone ringing]

[Stoen] And I think we were there till, like, 3:00 in the morning.

I told them everything.

The more power that he got, the sicker he got.

[Jeannie Mills] The whippings got worse and worse.

Our daughter was beaten 75 times with a board.

[Bonnie Thielmann] I ran with my child out, got into my car

and he was yelling my name as I left.

He told me that there would be an accident in which

all three of us would be killed.

Once you enter Peoples Temple, you don't leave.

Or you don't leave very easily.

There are death threats.

There is a lot of pressure from the congregation.

We talked it over with our children,

explained to them that we were going to be quitting the church.

And they said, "Well, Mom and Dad,

"we love you very much, and we just hope

"that when you do decide to quit the church,

you move far away, so we aren't the ones assigned to kill you."

I don't think I really realized

how dangerous a position that I was in,

but I just credit it to being young.

And not knowing any differently or any better.

I think what we had to say needed to be heard

because, in the past,

Jim had always been able to stifle any bad press like that.

So they were just blown away by what we had to say.

[Kilduff] "We were beaten, we had to give up all our money."

[crowd cheering]

"There's a sexual angle here

that we don't think you know about."

[crowd cheering]

Fake healings.

The church's inner dynamics.

The whole thing.

I had no idea.

This was a new level of problem,

a new level of the story.

I talked to his aides, I talked

to everybody I could at the church.

So Jones knew I was working on stories,

but he never wanted to talk.

[Wagner-Wilson] Jim advised us defectors were talking to

"New West" magazine.

And there was going to be an article full of lies

about Peoples Temple.

We knew it was trouble.

We knew that people were talking about

what was-- happened behind closed doors,

which we were not supposed to speak about.

[Guinn] Jones knew maybe his followers

initially are gonna believe in him.

If Father says none of it's true, it's fake news.

But his political base--

the mayor of San Francisco,

the governor of California--

he's gonna lose that political clout.

And when he loses that,

he's going to lose his standing in San Francisco,

he's gonna look terrible.

[Jordan Vilchez] Jim was like hyper,

and he increased the talk about

enemies and defectors and traitors

and people out to get us.

[Guinn] When the story breaks, it's tremendously controversial.

Everybody reads it, everybody's talking about it.

Both San Francisco newspapers

immediately assign their own reporters now.

"Dig in. Do more. Find more."

Reverend Jim Jones works in some very unexpected ways.

Why didn't you just get out?

Where did all that money go?

He had us sign papers, blank papers.

"No matter what goes on here, you go out

"and tell everybody everything's okay.

Deny everything you hear about what's going on here."

[Guinn] The TV stations are all there, flocking.

"Where's Jim Jones?"

By the time the story came out

and there was this doubt about him,

he wasn't around to answer for it.

[Jim Jones Jr.] In the "New West" article,

some of the questions had to have direct answers.

He didn't want to answer the questions.

The [bleep] storm is not gonna stop.

So the only solution is to get out.

So I remember my father saying, "We're going to Guyana."

[man] I think that Jim Jones was afraid to face the publicity

and answer the questions here in this country.

[Jim Jones Jr.] After the "New West" article backlash that happened...

groundswell started.

"What's the story behind Jim Jones?"

Was all the magic that Peoples Temple put out,

was it true?

And if you scratched the surface a little bit,

you saw maybe it-- it wasn't.

[Mary McCormick Maaga] In Guyana,

Jim Jones was outraged by the "New West" article.

And he was also very frightened.

He was afraid that this would give

the detractors of Peoples Temple

the ability to break up the church.

[Guinn] The original plan was that,

as soon as all this died down, he'd be back.

But it's not dying down.

What he's got to do is he's now got to make Jonestown

the focal point of Peoples Temple.

And now, suddenly, Jim Jones wants virtually everybody

in Peoples Temple to get over there.

[indistinct chatter]

[dramatic music]

[Vilchez] I wasn't given a reason why I was going to Jonestown.

Things were in such a frenzy.

It was just, "Let's get people down there now."

[dramatic music]

[Kilduff] That summer, they began shipping people out.

Buses went down to banks,

where people would deposit their money into church accounts.

They lined them up with passports

to get 'em out of the country legally.

[Carter] My wife, Gloria, was already in Guyana.

And I wanted to be with her

for the birth of my child.

It wasn't going to happen.

I was sent to New York City

to help facilitate people getting to Guyana.

The media attention on the temple at that time

was intense.

So, they would fly out of different airports,

whether it was Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco,

and they would fly on different airlines

and they would fly in groups of three.

They always sat apart from each other,

nobody recognized anybody else,

and there was a flight every day at 4:30.

[dramatic music]

[Guinn] It's important to understand how isolated Jonestown was

from Georgetown, the capital of Guyana.

You've got 160 miles that cannot be driven.

You have to either try to fly over the top of the jungle

and land on a tiny airstrip,

or you have to take a boat along the coast

and down a river.

[Gosney] It was a 19-hour boat trip

from Georgetown up a river.

Way, way, way, way up the river.

[Wagner-Wilson] I was seasick.

It was not a pleasant trip.

But part of me was happy. It's like, "Don't complain,

because you're on the way to the promised land."

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[Wagner-Wilson] When we pulled up to the dock and we got off...

...I was still apprehensive.

We got on the tractor and we rounded this corner,

and I could just hear them.

โ™ช Welcome, welcome all of you

โ™ช Welcome, welcome all of you โ™ช

โ™ช Glad you are with us

โ™ชโ™ช

What a swing.

What liberation brings.

[Wagner-Wilson] Jonestown was a town, it was a community.

From the doctor's office...

...to the pharmacy.

[Jim Jones] Medications here. One whole shelf

that goes half the warehouse length.

We have medical manuals,

even how we could do surgery if we had to.

If civilization as we know it now began to crumble.

[Wagner-Wilson] To the classrooms...

to the kitchen.

It was built from scr-- from nothing.

From nothing.

[Gosney] It was really kind of remarkable

that this whole little town

was built in the middle of the jungle.

Far, far away from anything.

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[Wagner-Wilson] I... wanted to get back to my husband.

I was happy to see my baby,

my son, and spend time with him.

[Carter] When I finally got into Jonestown,

I got to see Gloria and my son, Malcolm.

I could actually feel tension leaving my body.

Really, it was a physical sensation.

Because it is incredibly beautiful and peaceful.

And I thought it was exciting.

[children laughing]

[Jim Jones] We've been building this community--

as I look out over it, it's the most fantastic thing--

and we've made this part of the country.

We've enriched it by everything that's growing

and all of these beautiful buildings,

and our medical clinic, and our lovely homes.

[Wagner-Wilson] A typical day in Jonestown was up at 5:00.

There would be someone on the side of the--

the cabin with a stick.

"5:00, 5:00."

So 5:00.

We'd work six days a week, and I was okay with that

because I felt like I was building something,

and now I was really a good socialist.

[members singing] โ™ช Long live

โ™ช The socialist dream

That's beautiful.

[woman] Thank you!

[cheering and applause]

[Jim Jones Jr.] The getting up sweaty

and this kind of stuff, I hated that.

Oh, I hated that. I hated that.

I hated walking out of your cabin on a r--

on-- in the rainy season,

and your feet are full of mud and...

You know, I hated all that kind of stuff.

But you know something?

When you're with 900 people you care about...

...it didn't seem that bad.

[footsteps stomping, hands clapping]

[indistinct chatter]

I remember the dances, the youth dances.

[cheering and applause]

I remember some of the meetings that my father did,

and we talked about building a new world, you know?

Those were powerful to me.

I felt like we were Che Guevara,

building a new world... that's how I felt.

[all chanting] The people united will never be defeated!

The people united will never be defeated!

The people united will never be defeated!

The people united...

โ™ชโ™ช

[Wagner-Wilson] Things were good for a while.

[man] Grandma Bates, how do you like it here?

I love it. I love it.

It's-- I love it better than any place

I've been in my life.

All of a sudden, things started shifting.

I just love it.

I hope everything is gonna be all right for us.

[dramatic music]

[fire roaring]

[Maaga] Jonestown was ill-equipped

to provide a life

for all the people that arrived.

And Jim Jones is aware that what's happening in Jonestown

is not sustainable, either.

Ultimately Jones has about 1,000 people

in a place built for half that.

[indistinct chatter]

Almost instantly, there's not enough food.

[Jim Jones] We're gonna conserve on food.

Keep that up because we'll need every dollar.

'Cause this is the only kind of place to be.

Freedom.

[Wagner-Wilson] As more people began coming,

even the children weren't getting what they needed.

And the senior citizens definitely were not getting

the food that they needed.

We even sell bananas now because we're trying to make money.

We need money so badly to take care

of all of our family, to save them.

[Guinn] Jones knows he's got money that could take care of that

for decades, but he's not revealing that.

So instead people are told, "We've gotta do better

or we're gonna starve and be humiliated."

[Wagner-Wilson] You're physically adjusting to the work,

but you get used to it, you get used to the work.

What you don't get used to

is the sirens in the middle of the night.

[siren wailing]

Or Jim's drugged, sometimes incoherent voice

over the loudspeaker in the middle of the night.

[Gosney] In Jonestown, there were loudspeakers everywhere.

They went on 24/7.

The voice of Jim Jones.

[Maaga] Jim Jones did a terrible job

of maintaining his leadership

within the community of Jonestown.

He would stumble,

he would urinate off the side of the walkways.

[Gosney] It was apparent that his...

drug use had increased.

He was slurring his speech.

Remember, his number one source of well-being,

if you could even call it that,

was adulation.

Or feeling like he was adored by the people around him.

And now his source was finite.

It was the same people every day, same thing.

So, what he tried to do was just escalate things.

[Wagner-Wilson] So I'm looking at all this,

I'm seeing this,

and I'm starting to really acknowledge

what I'm seeing as not my imagination

or not my ability to be a good socialist,

but the fact that there is something seriously wrong here.

[dramatic music]

[Stephan Jones] I think Dad was very much aware of the fact

that our town could not last.

What we were doing was not sustainable.

[Maaga] As Jim Jones realized

what was happening at Jonestown

was a kind of failed experiment,

he and his leadership began to ask themselves,

"How can we still succeed in terms of history?"

And so this, "We're an egalitarian community

"that's gonna show the world how we can live

as a utopian gathering of people,"

became instead, "How do we show the world

"what a truly committed group of people would do

"if they are threatened with

the disintegration of their community?"

[cheering and applause]

[Gosney] The people that went to Jonestown

wanted to believe in something.

And they wanted to make a better world.

[Wagner-Wilson] I never saw us dying from within.

I never, ever saw it... coming.

[dramatic note, static]

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