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[Film reel ticks]
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Upbeat music
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[woman vo] This is a story
that everybody has heard before.
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The loner type from the
wrong side of the tracks...
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Meets a younger girl.
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He's the type of guy
she's been warned about.
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But she lets him get
just close enough...
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That they get stuck together.
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It's first love...
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And forbidden love.
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But sometimes, when
two people mix...
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The alchemy isn't right.
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There's a reaction.
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An explosion.
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[Gunshots]
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So, their story is
told over and over...
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And it's made pretty or ugly...
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[Gunshots]
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Evil or tragic.
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But it's never true.
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Because the truth is
far too complicated.
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And so, whatever is on a
screen will be the truth.
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[TV flicks on]
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This is the most terrible thing
that's ever happened in Lincoln.
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Her hands were
bound in front of her,
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and there was a
gag on her mouth.
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[Man vo] It was the
first of its kind,
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these rebels without a cause
killing people for no reason.
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You could feel the fear,
just on the TV itself.
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[Man vo] Charley starkweather
saw himself as James Dean.
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I think he's crazy.
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[Man vo] Caril always
wanted to be somebody.
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She wanted to be a star.
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[Woman vo] I thought, "oh, wow,
is she a hard-lookin' broad..."
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[Man vo] I see,
really, a scared little girl.
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[Man vo] The only two people
who witnessed what went on were
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Charles
starkweather and caril fugate,
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and everybody else is dead.
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[TV flicks off]
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[Man vo] Wowt 6 news.
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The teenager who many believed
helped Charles starkweather
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during his Nebraska killing
spree in the 1950s asks the
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state for a pardon.
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Today, the
76-year-old asked for a pardon.
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A 1950s killing spree that
shook the city of Lincoln at the
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time was revisited
today, as caril Ann fugate...
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[Man vo] Caril Ann fugate...
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[Man vo] Caril Ann fugate...
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[Man vo] Asked for a pardon
for her role in the crimes.
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Now, 60 years ago, fugate
accompanied her boyfriend,
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Charley starkweather, on one
of the nation's most notorious
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killing sprees.
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[Man vo] Fugate said
that she was a hostage,
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not an accomplice
to starkweather.
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Lord knows that i'm
innocent and I know it.
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The people who are
involved in it know it.
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There's been books,
movies, and songs...
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All towards this case.
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We can't come in and alleviate
the burden that she feels for
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this case.
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[Man vo] Caril fugate, vowing
to clear her name for 60 years.
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[Man vo] With nobody really
knowing her role in the crimes.
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[Dead air]
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Ominous music
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December 1st, 1957, a body
is found along the side of the
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highway, and it turns out to
be the body of a gas station
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attendant, a young man
named Robert colvert.
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They had first thought that he
maybe had been hit by a car or
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something, and it
turned out he had been shot.
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[Man vo] The body of
21-year-old Robert g colvert,
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an attendant at Mitchell's
service station on the outskirts
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of Lincoln, was found in
the middle of a lonely,
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rural road near the city.
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It was discovered by a farmer
en route to town shortly before
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dawn.
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The murderer took mr colvert
out and killed him and left him
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in a ditch, and
stole a few dollars.
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I think it was,
like, $20 or something;
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it was a very
little amount of money.
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And that was apparently
the motive was the money.
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Any murders were
just maybe one a year,
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if that.
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It was so out of the
normal experience of people,
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they just couldn't imagine that
something like that would happen
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here.
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[Man vo] Police say the
investigation will be continued
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by a team of
detectives, but at the moment,
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there are no clues to
the killer or killers.
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[Man vo] There
was the garbage man.
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He would hang around that
filling station where colvert
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worked quite often.
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That was Charles starkweather.
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[Man vo] Charles starkweather.
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[Woman vo]
Charles starkweather.
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[Man vo] Several
people had pointed out,
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"hey, there's this guy
going around spending change.
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It's the exact same guy who had
been sleeping a lot of nights
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outside the gas station."
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Even his own family is
going to the police and saying,
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"you need to check this out."
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You know, there were plenty of
reasons to be suspicious of this
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guy, and yet, they hadn't
even followed it up at all.
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[Man vo] Charles starkweather
had a difficult upbringing.
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He was a product
of the depression,
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one of seven children.
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He had a birth defect that
caused him to have bow legs,
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and coupled with a
speech impediment,
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fiery red hair,
and being only 5'5,
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it was very, very difficult.
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[Man vo] Charley
was a garbage man,
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high school dropout,
and he had an IQ of,
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like, 70.
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He had all these issues.
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Back in Nebraska in 1958, people
weren't paying attention to
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sociology or anything like that.
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They just wrote him
off as, you know,
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"he's kind of a bad
egg and that's that."
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[Man vo] Lincoln was very
peaceful coming into that.
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It was assumed that the
killer was not a lincolnite.
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Most people assumed it was
somebody that had come and gone,
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the intruder in the night or the
guy that was passing through.
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It kind of went out of
the minds of people,
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and we went right back to being
what somebody called "the soda
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fountain era."
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Lollipop, lollipop,
oh, lolli-lolli-lolli
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lollipop, lollipop, oh,
lolli-lolli-lolli...
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Well, Lincoln, a city
of about 100,000 people.
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A friend of mine says, "Lincoln,
Nebraska: Two degrees of
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separation," 'cause
everybody knows everybody else.
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[Man vo] Crime was
almost nonexistent.
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The police force had one night
patrolman for the entire city.
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No one gave any thought to it.
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[Man vo] People
didn't lock their doors.
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People weren't concerned,
weren't worried about different
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things.
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A lollipop
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ominous music
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there's no
question Charley's world
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revolved around this young girl.
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Caril was the only
person that cared about him,
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the only sign of
love in his life.
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Charles
starkweather and caril fugate,
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their relationship was
boyfriend and girlfriend.
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She actually
thought he was cool,
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and nobody else really
thought he was cool.
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[Chuckles]
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She had known him
through her sister,
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so she trusted him
a little bit more.
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He loved caril, caril loved him.
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He hated his red hair because
people used to make fun of him,
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so she pulled one of his
red hairs out of his head,
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and she said, "I love
every hair on your head."
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She was in kind of a poor
home and things here in Lincoln.
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I mean, they weren't
well-to-do or anything.
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[Man vo] She came from...
People would say... the wrong
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side of the tracks.
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Her folks were divorced.
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[Woman vo] Before her mother
left her biological father and
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remarried, there was a lot of
domestic turmoil and strife.
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So she just wanted to get out...
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And find a better life,
and that's probably what
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he promised her.
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[Man vo] She thought
she was top-of-the-world,
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you know?
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Because somebody older
paid attention to her.
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"I'm better than everybody
'cause I got an older man that's
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really lookin' out, I get to
ride around in his car and all
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this stuff."
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She thought she was big shit!
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[Woman vo] Her mother
really didn't like him.
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She just didn't like his
personality and didn't think he
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was right for caril.
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[Man vo] They thought he
was worthless, no good.
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They told him that quite often.
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They wanted him to stay away
from caril and that eventually,
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he would get her pregnant, if
she wasn't pregnant already.
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[Woman vo] This
was taken in '57.
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My mother said that this was the
last time she's seen Betty Jean
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and velda.
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Eerie music
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January 21st, 1958, which is
about a month or so after the
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colvert killing...
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Velda bartlett, caril Ann
fugate's natural mother,
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wanted Charles starkweather
to bring some used rugs over
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to the house.
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[Scrawling]
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[Charles on recording] I
went down to the bartlett home
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about 1:30 in the afternoon, and
me and velda got into a fight
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over caril.
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See, they'd been wantin' caril
to break up with me so she could
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go with somebody else.
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And she said for me not to
come down anymore to see caril.
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And I said somethin' to
velda that she did not like,
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and she hit me
about three times.
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Velda got me so
mad, I hit her back.
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And she let out a loud cry, and
I ran into the other room and
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put a bullet in the gun.
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Suspenseful music
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Charley and caril kind of
settle in for the next few days.
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To have these two
teenagers playing house
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for a few days and
thinking through what they wanna
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do next.
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[Dog whining]
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[Knocking]
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You have several people showing
up... you have a milkman,
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you have neighbors...
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And they are all
greeted at the door by caril.
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[Man vo] They were turned
away every time by caril.
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They family was sick, you
couldn't come in to visit them,
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please go, don't come back.
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[Man vo] Caril puts a
note in the door that says,
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"everybody's sick with the flu.
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Go away."
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[Woman vo] Caril's grandmother
went to the police station...
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And said, "something's very,
very wrong in that house."
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[Siren]
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[Man vo] They
knocked on the door,
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and caril came to
the door and said no,
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they couldn't come
in, to stay away.
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[Man vo] These police
officers took caril's word that
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everything was
just fine and left.
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Caril's grandmother said, "okay,
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but the next time I come,
there'll be a search warrant and
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we're gonna get down
to the bottom of this."
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[Dead air]
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Dark dramatic music
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[Charles on recording] Caril's
grandmother said she was gonna
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get the cops, so I
told caril to come.
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We walk up to my car,
change the flat tire,
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got gas, and headed
for Bennet, Nebraska.
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Now, everybody told the
police, "something's wrong,
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go check it out,"
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and the police
were like, "ehh."
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Until finally, Charley's
own brother had to crawl in,
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go around, and look.
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Eerie music
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dramatic music
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and then found the bodies.
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[Siren]
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[Man vo] We interrupt this
program with an emergency
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news bulletin.
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Lincoln police are at the scene
of a gruesome triple slaying in
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the city's belmont section.
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The police found three bodies
hidden in out buildings behind
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the home.
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A relative has identified the
victims as Marion bartlett,
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his wife, velda barlett, and
the couple's three-year-old
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daughter, Betty Jean barlett.
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Autopsies will be performed, but
police say it appears the bodies
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have been there for
approximately one week.
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[Charles on recording] At the
time me and velda got into this
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fight, I had my
brother's gun with me.
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Marion came in.
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He was just about ready to
come down with the hammer,
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so I let him have it.
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[Gunshot]
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[Man vo] Charles gets the
gun and shoots mr bartlett.
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[Gunshot]
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Turns the gun
also on mrs barlett.
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The child, Betty
Jean, is yelling...
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[Child shrieks]
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Loud enough that the
neighbors can hear.
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Charles takes the butt of his
rifle and strikes this child.
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[Woman vo] People
were devastated by it,
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they were appalled by it.
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It was something that had never
happened in Lincoln before.
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It was, pfft, you know,
this unprecedented thing!
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It was a pretty horrific scene.
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He drug velda bartlett
out to the out house,
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stuck her as far as he
could down into the toilet,
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put Betty Jean
into a cardboard box,
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set her on the toilet seat...
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And then drug Marion bartlett
out to the chicken Coop.
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Ominous music
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On the day after the
bartletts' murders,
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they actually mentioned the
colvert murder in the newspaper,
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as it's kinda similar.
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The reporting was actually
starting to question the role of
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the police.
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The whole situation at the
bartlett house was a total
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embarrassment for the police.
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A police officer came out there,
there was suspicious activity.
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Up to 14 people
went to that house,
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knocked on the door,
some more than once.
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They were turned away.
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The police, on two
separate occasions,
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went to the house.
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[Man vo] Police say that
part of the reason they didn't
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respond or take the complaints
seriously is that this was a
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home where there had
been calls more than once.
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It was obviously just a shrug
that something else is going on
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at the bartlett house.
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Now, if that had been people
from the other side of the
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tracks... the rich
side of the town...
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Might the
investigation been different?
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Charley was immediately
suspected at the beginning,
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'cause they were actually
in that house for six days.
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People were only seeing caril,
and she was acting all weird.
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So when these bodies are
found, it's immediately...
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"Charley probably did this"
and "where's caril Ann fugate?"
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[Man on radio] Police are
seeking 19-year-old Charles r
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starkweather of Lincoln
and the bartletts' daughter,
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caril Ann.
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Starkweather is believed to be
driving his 1949 black Ford with
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a missing radiator grill.
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Anyone spotting this car is
asked to contact the Lincoln
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police department or your
nearest law enforcement agency.
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Do not approach the suspect.
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Ominous music
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[woman vo] Charley was...
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[Sighs]
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Oh, I wanna say a weird kid.
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[Man vo] He really
wanted to emulate James Dean.
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He started combing his
hair in that fashion,
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acting like that character.
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All right, you asked
for it and you got it.
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What is it?
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Trouble.
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He was quick to anger, he would
take something on the playground
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and just literally [chuckling]
beating another kid to a pulp
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and rubbing his face in the
gravel until he was bleeding
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all over his face, and
then just walking away.
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[Man vo] He was a violent cat.
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He was filled with rage.
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I mean, he hated everything.
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The only thing Charley
starkweather liked was caril
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fugate and guns.
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There's a romantic true
crime, like a Bonnie and Clyde.
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The romance was
at the key of it.
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If it wasn't for caril's
parents saying "Charley,
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you can't see our
daughter anymore."..
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There wouldn't
have been, you know,
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the starkweather murder spree.
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Deep ominous music
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at the bartlett house, it's
not until four o'clock in the
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afternoon that the
bodies are found,
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and by then, Charles and caril
are already down in Bennet.
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It's January,
there's snow, dirt roads,
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their car gets stuck.
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[Charles on recording] We drove
into the drive and got stuck in
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hard.
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And we worked about two
hours, couldn't get it out.
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Then, we walk up to
meyer's farmhouse.
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I told him I wanted
him to pull me out,
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and he said, "okay."
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He walked into the house.
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[Indistinct radio chatter]
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[Man on radio] We have reports
of that vehicle matching the
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description of
Charles starkweather's car.
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[Tires screeching and siren]
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[Man on radio] Nebraska highway
patrolmen and sheriff's deputies
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have surrounded at Bennet
farmhouse of 79-year-old August
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meyer, where 19-year-old Charles
starkweather and his female
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companion, caril Ann
fugate, are believed inside.
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[Man vo] Because August
meyer hadn't come and Charley is
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missing, they came to
the conclusion "well,
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Charley must be in there."
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Threw gas bombs and
slowly went up to it,
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and crashed into the house.
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[Glass shattering]
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And then found August
meyer's body dead there.
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Been discovered near
his house outside Bennet,
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Nebraska, 16 miles from Lincoln.
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Authorities say the
victim, August meyer,
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was killed by a shotgun blast.
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And then again, it was like,
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"okay, where's caril's body?"
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'Cause they just kept
expecting to find her,
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you know, dead somewhere.
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Ominous music
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[man vo] If you look at
starkweather's family,
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they're not really
all that abnormal!
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They had a number of
kids; They didn't do this.
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I think the family did the best
they could with all of their
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children, and the only one
that turned out really abnormal
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was starkweather.
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The other kids turned
out okay, basically.
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[Glitching static]
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Do you think something
just might have snapped?
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I think something
may have snapped.
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After the...
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The first three, I would...
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I didn't think much about them.
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But after that, then I
thought that he had gone.
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Was he... as pictured in many
of the news reports... a wild...
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No.
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He liked a good
fight, but that's...
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Normal with boys, you know,
to get out and wrestle and...
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But he took care of himself?
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He would take care of himself;
He could take it and he could
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dish it out.
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[Film reel clicking]
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Late 1950s america was
seemingly a very tranquil place,
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but also, a lot of parents were
concerned about rock 'n' roll
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music and, you
know, Elvis and...
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In retrospect, it
all seems benign,
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but it was
starting to happen then.
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Moody ambient music
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I believe with all of my heart
that it is a contributing factor
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to our juvenile
delinquency of today.
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I 100 percent believe it.
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[Cheering]
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Why I believe that is
because I know how it feels
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when you say it.
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I know what it does to you.
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And I know of the evil feeling
that you feel when you sing it.
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For a lot of people,
there was a sense that...
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Things are going bad.
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I would say, where "we are
pure and innocent and virginal"
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became more part of a kind of
performative American story we
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told about ourselves
and probably because...
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We saw the ending coming.
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And so when this little monster
appears... this little punk,
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bowlegged red-headed
peckerwood appears
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and kills people for
no reason... yikes!
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Tense ambient music
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[woman vo] He gave that
town a nervous breakdown.
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I first heard about
it on the television.
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You know, that
there was this murder.
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[Man vo] This was the first
time that somebody who was
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accused of murder was
being broadcast on television.
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The press was all
over the place.
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The local news station, they
literally had just gotten their
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cameras in when this
murder spree began.
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At the time when they first
started learning about these
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murders happening, the
crew was looking over their
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newly-acquired
cameras and going,
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"okay, how do we
use this thing?"
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You see it on the
news and they're going...
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"We're all gonna die!"
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You know, "they
can't catch this guy!
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What are we gonna do?!"
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Businesses closed,
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people went and
took their kids out of school.
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[Woman vo] It was very scary.
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Starkweather was a garbage man,
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and he was my mom
and dad's garbage man.
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My dad had this '53 oldsmobile
that he liked really well.
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Charles, he would come and talk
to my dad about it when he'd be
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on the route, so my dad, that
was another reason he was kind
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of afraid; He was afraid he'd
come there and get that car.
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I remember him and my
grandfather getting their
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guns out.
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I'd never seen
anybody do that before.
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Nebraska was genuinely
afraid... that is not overblown,
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that is not exaggerated...
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Because the police
are so far behind
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in picking up on this
that everything that they're
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learning is a couple hours...
Even a full day... behind the
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killings that are taking place.
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They were processing crime
scenes while a whole 'nother set
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of bodies were being discovered.
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[Charles on recording] I
was going to stay overnight.
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I pulled into this field.
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I got a feeling
something was wrong so...
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I was going to get out.
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I got stuck in.
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We walk about four miles there.
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As they're
walking, a car pulls up,
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and inside are Bobby
Jensen and Carol king.
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[Man vo] Jensen and king
represented the average high
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school couple that were
in love, going together,
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and probably on the
road to getting married.
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[Charles on recording] And
these two people came in a
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'54 Ford blue.
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I told 'em to drive.
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It turned out that the
most popular couple in Bennet,
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Nebraska had just picked up the
two most wanted criminals in the
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state of Nebraska.
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Charley and caril
get in the car.
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They ask Bobby Jensen
to turn over his wallet.
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And at some point, starkweather
pulled the gun on him...
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[Hammer clicks]
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And drove them to that cave.
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Romantic '50s pop music
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[Charles on recording]
And I said for them to get out
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of the car.
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And they walk up to
the hole, as I said,
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and begin to walk away.
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Now, he come after me.
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I didn't wanna shoot him or her.
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Caril was listening
to the car radio.
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[Gunshots]
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[Male reporter
vo] Later that day,
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searchers peered into an
abandoned storm cellar and
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00:26:12,732 --> 00:26:15,862
turned away sickened.
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The bodies of king and Jensen
were found riddled with bullets.
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Here was this
fresh-faced, innocent,
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good-hearted,
good samaritan kids, right?
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All-American, apple pie...
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Accosted, at random, by
their dark evil twins.
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[Man vo] Those pictures
are extremely graphic.
493
00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:42,062
They're just...
494
00:26:42,262 --> 00:26:44,062
Breathtakingly gruesome.
495
00:26:44,262 --> 00:26:46,732
A lot of people
were just aghast.
496
00:26:46,932 --> 00:26:51,852
Ominous ambient music
497
00:26:52,352 --> 00:26:54,572
[man vo] I have
never seen the photos.
498
00:26:54,772 --> 00:26:57,952
I have never even wanted to
read the descriptions of 'em.
499
00:26:58,152 --> 00:27:00,072
[Man vo] Charley
did some gruesome,
500
00:27:00,272 --> 00:27:02,862
gruesome things to Carol king.
501
00:27:04,702 --> 00:27:06,298
[Charles on recording]
I pulled her jeans down,
502
00:27:06,322 --> 00:27:08,082
but I didn't screw her.
503
00:27:08,282 --> 00:27:10,042
I tried to but...
504
00:27:10,242 --> 00:27:13,802
I couldn't get to the point; It
was colder than hell that night.
505
00:27:14,002 --> 00:27:16,592
And sitting there
looking at her...
506
00:27:16,792 --> 00:27:18,052
I left her there...
507
00:27:18,252 --> 00:27:20,642
And left.
508
00:27:20,842 --> 00:27:23,202
To get a bit graphic here, he
took a knife... after shooting
509
00:27:23,262 --> 00:27:26,142
her, he took a knife and he
stabbed her up the vagina
510
00:27:26,342 --> 00:27:28,982
multiple times, to the point
where it went halfway up her
511
00:27:29,182 --> 00:27:30,982
torso.
512
00:27:31,182 --> 00:27:35,732
[Woman vo] They had found
debris and sticks and rocks
513
00:27:35,932 --> 00:27:40,842
and dirt that he had
inserted into her vagina.
514
00:27:41,042 --> 00:27:44,662
That was just too
horrific to even contemplate
515
00:27:44,862 --> 00:27:47,242
back then in the '50s.
516
00:27:47,952 --> 00:27:51,672
It was so out of the normal
experience of people that you
517
00:27:51,872 --> 00:27:54,098
just couldn't imagine that
something like that would happen
518
00:27:54,122 --> 00:27:56,762
here in Lincoln.
519
00:27:56,962 --> 00:27:59,842
[Man vo] There was a certain
"you can't make it up" fictional
520
00:28:00,042 --> 00:28:02,012
quality to it.
521
00:28:02,212 --> 00:28:05,182
It's the nice teenagers who were
trying to help out who get raped
522
00:28:05,382 --> 00:28:08,052
and killed by the bad teenagers.
523
00:28:10,312 --> 00:28:12,812
[Applause]
524
00:28:13,012 --> 00:28:15,022
[Man vo] Friends...
525
00:28:15,222 --> 00:28:17,992
Many people today do not really
understand our times because
526
00:28:18,192 --> 00:28:19,822
they're too close to them.
527
00:28:20,022 --> 00:28:24,892
Eerie ambient music
528
00:28:25,092 --> 00:28:29,122
do we understand the
signs of our times?
529
00:28:29,322 --> 00:28:34,252
What do they portend?
530
00:28:35,962 --> 00:28:40,172
To know, we have
to have a standard.
531
00:28:40,372 --> 00:28:43,222
And the outside standard...
532
00:28:43,422 --> 00:28:46,852
Is god's way of judging things.
533
00:28:47,052 --> 00:28:51,812
And I wonder what he
thinks of our times.
534
00:28:52,012 --> 00:28:54,772
I think he would
weep at our times.
535
00:29:09,202 --> 00:29:10,242
[Clears throat]
536
00:29:18,962 --> 00:29:20,712
[Guy vo] I just
can't believe he did it.
537
00:29:20,912 --> 00:29:22,398
[Male interviewer vo] You
can't believe he did it?
538
00:29:22,422 --> 00:29:24,092
[Guy vo] Not as
gruesome as it was, no.
539
00:29:24,292 --> 00:29:26,018
[Male interviewer vo] I think
you said something about Charley
540
00:29:26,042 --> 00:29:28,132
acting differently
after, uh, he met caril.
541
00:29:31,142 --> 00:29:33,022
Yes, he was different.
542
00:29:33,222 --> 00:29:33,542
[Male interviewer] Changed boy.
543
00:29:33,742 --> 00:29:36,772
Yeah, just a little bit changed.
544
00:29:36,972 --> 00:29:39,272
Sparse eerie music
545
00:29:39,472 --> 00:29:41,232
caril...
546
00:29:41,442 --> 00:29:44,112
Just did not get
along with... with people.
547
00:29:44,312 --> 00:29:46,282
That's just the way she was.
548
00:29:46,482 --> 00:29:50,912
She looked like an
angry young lady...
549
00:29:51,112 --> 00:29:54,292
And couldn't care
less about anybody else.
550
00:29:54,492 --> 00:29:56,252
She looked like
she'd bit through a lot,
551
00:29:56,452 --> 00:30:00,252
and I thought, "oh, wow, is
she a hard-lookin' broad..."
552
00:30:00,452 --> 00:30:03,262
[Man vo] Caril
always wanted to be...
553
00:30:03,462 --> 00:30:05,132
She wanted to be a star.
554
00:30:05,332 --> 00:30:08,932
She wanted to be somebody.
555
00:30:09,132 --> 00:30:11,222
[Woman vo] She wanted to
get away from her home.
556
00:30:11,422 --> 00:30:13,812
He was gonna take
her away from that,
557
00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:16,982
and that's why she
did what she did.
558
00:30:17,182 --> 00:30:19,822
Tense music
559
00:30:20,022 --> 00:30:23,322
[siren]
560
00:30:23,522 --> 00:30:26,152
[Man vo] When
they're leaving Lincoln,
561
00:30:26,362 --> 00:30:28,498
they stop at Tate's conoco
station 'cause he wants to have
562
00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:30,332
his tired fixed.
563
00:30:30,532 --> 00:30:32,832
While he's there in
the service station,
564
00:30:33,032 --> 00:30:36,832
he sends her across to bricky's
caf and told her to buy some
565
00:30:37,032 --> 00:30:38,962
hamburgers.
566
00:30:39,162 --> 00:30:42,302
The waitress that waited on
her was named juanita bell.
567
00:30:42,502 --> 00:30:44,842
[Juanita on recording] She
was coming toward the caf
568
00:30:45,042 --> 00:30:46,092
rather rapidly.
569
00:31:03,102 --> 00:31:06,072
As I gave her the hamburgers,
Charley gave her a $10 bill...
570
00:31:25,462 --> 00:31:28,342
[Thunder rumbling]
571
00:31:28,542 --> 00:31:31,142
Tense ambient music
572
00:31:31,342 --> 00:31:33,852
in Nebraska, you get these
gigantic thunderstorms that
573
00:31:34,052 --> 00:31:36,892
stretch out for miles.
574
00:31:37,092 --> 00:31:39,412
So when I was a little kid, my
parents would help me feel a
575
00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:41,902
little better about
it by telling me,
576
00:31:42,102 --> 00:31:44,038
"count from when you see the
light to when you hear the
577
00:31:44,062 --> 00:31:46,078
thunder and that's how you'll
know it's getting further and
578
00:31:46,102 --> 00:31:49,032
further away."
579
00:31:49,232 --> 00:31:49,912
You would see the
light, then it'd be like,
580
00:31:50,112 --> 00:31:51,112
"okay, count with me.
581
00:31:51,232 --> 00:31:53,872
One, two, three."
582
00:31:54,072 --> 00:31:56,042
[Thunder rumbles]
583
00:31:56,242 --> 00:31:58,372
[Woman vo]
[Whispering] Shh, it's okay.
584
00:31:58,572 --> 00:32:00,922
Shh.
585
00:32:01,122 --> 00:32:02,598
And then, it's like,
"okay, wait for the next one,"
586
00:32:02,622 --> 00:32:04,922
and then the
light, and then "one,
587
00:32:05,122 --> 00:32:07,422
two, three, four."
588
00:32:07,622 --> 00:32:09,172
[Thunder rumbles]
589
00:32:09,372 --> 00:32:11,382
[Woman vo]
[Whispering] It's going away.
590
00:32:11,592 --> 00:32:12,032
"See?
591
00:32:12,232 --> 00:32:13,568
It's going further
and further away.
592
00:32:13,592 --> 00:32:16,432
You're safe."
593
00:32:18,142 --> 00:32:20,442
This crime spree had been
like these thunderstorms;
594
00:32:20,642 --> 00:32:22,402
it had been getting
further and further away.
595
00:32:22,602 --> 00:32:24,942
People thought, "oh, it's
going out into the countryside.
596
00:32:25,142 --> 00:32:26,248
Now, it's getting to Bennet.
597
00:32:26,272 --> 00:32:27,442
Now, it's going beyond that.
598
00:32:27,642 --> 00:32:29,482
It's no longer something
we have to deal with."
599
00:32:29,642 --> 00:32:31,952
And then, it hits the
wards and it's just like...
600
00:32:32,152 --> 00:32:35,202
The lightning storm has crashed
right into the middle of them.
601
00:32:35,402 --> 00:32:37,122
[Thunder rumbles]
602
00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:41,962
The wards lived in a country
club neighborhood of Lincoln.
603
00:32:42,162 --> 00:32:44,082
They were well-to-do.
604
00:32:44,282 --> 00:32:47,382
[Man vo] He was an
executive of the steel company.
605
00:32:47,582 --> 00:32:50,052
[Man vo] The wards were
a very prominent family,
606
00:32:50,252 --> 00:32:52,228
and they were tied into all of
the very prominent families of
607
00:32:52,252 --> 00:32:55,432
Lincoln, very
well-known, very well-liked.
608
00:32:55,632 --> 00:32:57,102
He was very big
and very powerful,
609
00:32:57,302 --> 00:32:58,722
making a lot of money.
610
00:32:58,922 --> 00:33:03,022
He had that big, huge packard,
which very few people had then.
611
00:33:03,432 --> 00:33:06,312
I knew Mike
ward, their only son.
612
00:33:06,522 --> 00:33:09,402
But the thing of it was
the last year of school,
613
00:33:09,602 --> 00:33:11,992
he went to private school.
614
00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:15,242
So when this all happened, he
thank god... wasn't home.
615
00:33:20,122 --> 00:33:23,332
Tense ambient music
616
00:33:23,532 --> 00:33:26,962
[man vo] So after killing
Robert Jensen and Carol king,
617
00:33:27,162 --> 00:33:28,308
instead of going
further out of town,
618
00:33:28,332 --> 00:33:31,262
they went back into Lincoln.
619
00:33:31,462 --> 00:33:35,472
It was January in Nebraska,
it's freezing cold outside.
620
00:33:35,672 --> 00:33:38,142
Cars at that time were not
exactly known for their good
621
00:33:38,342 --> 00:33:39,392
heating.
622
00:33:41,472 --> 00:33:43,482
So at a certain point,
Charley was just like,
623
00:33:43,682 --> 00:33:47,022
"well, we have to
hole out somewhere."
624
00:33:47,222 --> 00:33:50,482
So he drove along this winding
road right by the country club
625
00:33:50,682 --> 00:33:53,152
where his garbage
route often was.
626
00:33:58,572 --> 00:34:01,372
I picked out the one on 24.
627
00:34:01,572 --> 00:34:05,122
There were two persons
there: A lady and her maid.
628
00:34:05,322 --> 00:34:07,132
[Chuckles]
629
00:34:07,332 --> 00:34:09,218
They about had dropped
dead when I said I was gonna
630
00:34:09,242 --> 00:34:11,342
spend the day there.
631
00:34:11,542 --> 00:34:14,052
They said they would be nice...
632
00:34:14,252 --> 00:34:19,222
And nothing would happen
like calling the cops.
633
00:34:19,472 --> 00:34:21,222
They were...
634
00:34:21,422 --> 00:34:24,312
'Til about two that afternoon.
635
00:34:24,512 --> 00:34:27,192
The one lady was upstairs.
636
00:34:27,392 --> 00:34:30,072
Was there about 20 minutes.
637
00:34:30,272 --> 00:34:33,272
I went on up to see her.
638
00:34:34,482 --> 00:34:37,572
My grandmother was
in her nightgown.
639
00:34:37,772 --> 00:34:41,662
She went upstairs, asked if
she could change her clothes.
640
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:49,212
Starkweather said she
took a shot at him...
641
00:34:49,412 --> 00:34:53,422
But no bullet was ever found.
642
00:34:53,622 --> 00:34:57,432
And then, he stabbed mrs ward.
643
00:34:57,632 --> 00:35:01,222
[Woman vo] He told
caril to clean the knife,
644
00:35:01,422 --> 00:35:06,062
and she did so.
645
00:35:06,262 --> 00:35:11,192
Caril stood at the dining
room window waiting for my
646
00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:15,362
grandfather to
come home from work.
647
00:35:16,732 --> 00:35:18,732
He had stopped by the
governor's office and visited
648
00:35:18,812 --> 00:35:21,282
with the governor.
649
00:35:21,742 --> 00:35:25,292
[Woman vo] And when
she saw the headlights,
650
00:35:25,492 --> 00:35:28,422
she yelled, "here he comes."
651
00:35:28,622 --> 00:35:32,592
So when my grandfather came
in, he met starkweather and knew
652
00:35:32,792 --> 00:35:37,222
exactly who he was facing,
because he had just been talking
653
00:35:37,422 --> 00:35:41,172
about him with the governor.
654
00:35:41,762 --> 00:35:44,432
[Siren]
655
00:35:44,632 --> 00:35:46,352
[Male reporter] Police
chief Eugene masters.
656
00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:48,552
Well, uh, chief masters,
can you tell us what you've
657
00:35:48,592 --> 00:35:51,152
found inside this ward home?
658
00:35:51,352 --> 00:35:54,112
I found the bodies of mr
and mrs ward and the maid,
659
00:35:54,312 --> 00:35:57,402
uh, Lillian fencl.
660
00:35:57,602 --> 00:36:00,662
Uh, mr ward's body was
laying inside the front door,
661
00:36:00,862 --> 00:36:04,412
and mrs ward's body
was, uh, between,
662
00:36:04,612 --> 00:36:08,502
uh, the beds in the south
bedroom on the second floor.
663
00:36:08,702 --> 00:36:11,672
Uh, she was... her arms were
bound behind her and she had a
664
00:36:11,872 --> 00:36:14,462
gag on her mouth.
665
00:36:14,662 --> 00:36:18,422
And the maid, uh,
Lillian fencl, was in the,
666
00:36:18,622 --> 00:36:21,302
uh... in the, uh,
northeast bedroom.
667
00:36:21,502 --> 00:36:25,602
Her hands were bound in front
of her and her feet were bound,
668
00:36:25,802 --> 00:36:28,312
and there was a
gag on her mouth.
669
00:36:28,512 --> 00:36:30,312
Dark ambient music
670
00:36:30,512 --> 00:36:33,692
[man vo] Both Clara ward and
her maid her stabbed multiple
671
00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:38,652
times in very personal ways, and
what I mean by that is not just
672
00:36:38,852 --> 00:36:43,162
simply stab-to-kill but
in very private areas,
673
00:36:43,362 --> 00:36:45,572
in very aggressive ways.
674
00:36:45,992 --> 00:36:49,202
[Woman vo] It was horrifying;
He kept stabbing her over and
675
00:36:49,402 --> 00:36:51,582
over again.
676
00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:54,292
[Man vo] When you
look at what he did,
677
00:36:54,492 --> 00:36:57,342
he engaged in what's
called "overkill."
678
00:36:57,542 --> 00:37:01,222
It's far beyond what is
necessary to commit the crime...
679
00:37:01,422 --> 00:37:02,552
To kill the person.
680
00:37:02,752 --> 00:37:07,512
Overkill shows an
enormous amount of inner rage.
681
00:37:07,712 --> 00:37:11,562
The level of anger that
starkweather had goes right to
682
00:37:11,762 --> 00:37:14,562
the core of his personality.
683
00:37:14,762 --> 00:37:18,322
He was terribly, terribly
jealous of anybody who was
684
00:37:18,522 --> 00:37:21,492
important or successful.
685
00:37:21,692 --> 00:37:22,172
And he said
something interesting;
686
00:37:22,372 --> 00:37:25,532
he said, "when you're
dead, everybody's equal."
687
00:37:25,732 --> 00:37:28,702
That's how he saw it in his
mind: "If I kill this guy...
688
00:37:28,902 --> 00:37:30,702
Look at him there; I'm
the one who killed him.
689
00:37:30,742 --> 00:37:33,662
He's not such a
big-shot, look at me."
690
00:37:34,452 --> 00:37:38,552
[Woman vo] Starkweather would
have these dreams of death.
691
00:37:38,752 --> 00:37:40,762
And death was
nice, death was good,
692
00:37:40,962 --> 00:37:43,262
death was nothing to fear.
693
00:37:43,462 --> 00:37:46,842
[Thunder rumbles]
694
00:37:48,512 --> 00:37:50,522
[Charles on recording]
She comes in a dream.
695
00:37:50,722 --> 00:37:53,562
She told me,
"don't be in no hurry.
696
00:37:53,762 --> 00:37:56,272
I won't let you forget."
697
00:37:56,472 --> 00:38:01,482
One time, death comes to me with
a coffin and told me to get in.
698
00:38:02,022 --> 00:38:05,362
Then, the coffin sailed away
with me in it 'til it come to a
699
00:38:05,562 --> 00:38:07,242
big fire.
700
00:38:07,442 --> 00:38:10,792
The coffin sorta... melted.
701
00:38:10,992 --> 00:38:13,372
And I was down
there on the street,
702
00:38:13,572 --> 00:38:16,542
with great flames of
fire on each side of me.
703
00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:19,632
But it wasn't hot, like i'd
always thought hell would be.
704
00:38:19,832 --> 00:38:21,302
[Thunder crashes]
705
00:38:21,502 --> 00:38:23,462
It was more like...
706
00:38:23,672 --> 00:38:26,762
Beautiful flames of gold.
707
00:38:26,962 --> 00:38:30,472
And I woke up...
708
00:38:30,672 --> 00:38:33,772
To see her standing
there in the window.
709
00:38:33,972 --> 00:38:38,832
And all I could see would be the
part from... from the waist down.
710
00:38:39,032 --> 00:38:42,612
It was kinda half
human and half bear,
711
00:38:42,812 --> 00:38:47,742
only it didn't have no neck, it
didn't have no arms or no ears.
712
00:38:48,112 --> 00:38:50,452
It was close and loud at first,
713
00:38:50,652 --> 00:38:53,662
but it got further
and further away.
714
00:38:53,862 --> 00:38:55,622
The sound became...
715
00:38:55,822 --> 00:38:58,332
Mournful and sad 'til I
couldn't hear it no more.
716
00:38:58,532 --> 00:39:00,632
[Thunder crashes]
717
00:39:00,832 --> 00:39:05,472
For about a minute or two, I
couldn't move my arms or legs.
718
00:39:05,672 --> 00:39:08,342
As I sat there in silence...
719
00:39:08,542 --> 00:39:13,512
I said to myself that some
day, I'd pay them all back.
720
00:39:13,932 --> 00:39:16,682
I wanted revenge
upon the world...
721
00:39:16,892 --> 00:39:20,522
And this human race.
722
00:39:29,442 --> 00:39:34,452
Tense ambient music
723
00:39:35,952 --> 00:39:40,542
indications inside the ward
home would cause us to believe
724
00:39:40,742 --> 00:39:44,712
that the girl is still
with, uh, starkweather,
725
00:39:44,912 --> 00:39:48,882
or at least was still
with him in the ward home.
726
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:53,642
Uh, a jacket with the letters of
Bennet... presumably Bennet high
727
00:39:53,842 --> 00:39:57,812
school and presumably a girl's
jacket were found inside the
728
00:39:58,012 --> 00:40:01,522
house, and there are
other indications.
729
00:40:01,722 --> 00:40:04,732
Law enforcement was initially
searching for Charley and
730
00:40:04,932 --> 00:40:07,862
expecting to find caril's
body; They thought that she was
731
00:40:08,062 --> 00:40:10,412
probably one of his victims,
that she was probably murdered
732
00:40:10,612 --> 00:40:11,242
as well.
733
00:40:11,442 --> 00:40:16,662
In the ward home, Elmer scheele
found Carol king's jacket left
734
00:40:16,862 --> 00:40:18,002
behind.
735
00:40:18,202 --> 00:40:22,542
Meanwhile, Clara
ward's jacket went missing.
736
00:40:22,742 --> 00:40:26,552
And from that moment forward, it
went from being an investigation
737
00:40:26,752 --> 00:40:28,382
of "what has Charley done?"
738
00:40:28,582 --> 00:40:31,552
And looking for her body
to believing she was his
739
00:40:31,752 --> 00:40:33,722
accomplice.
740
00:40:33,922 --> 00:40:35,898
[Male reporter] What is the
next phase of the investigation
741
00:40:35,922 --> 00:40:37,772
now, mr scheele?
742
00:40:37,972 --> 00:40:41,852
Uh, autopsies are going to be
performed immediately on the
743
00:40:42,052 --> 00:40:45,442
three bodies, which we hope
will definitely establish,
744
00:40:45,642 --> 00:40:49,782
uh, information that will
assist us in the investigation.
745
00:40:49,982 --> 00:40:51,788
When you look at the case, I
think it's important to point
746
00:40:51,812 --> 00:40:54,572
out two men that
were on it from day one:
747
00:40:54,772 --> 00:40:56,952
Sheriff merle karnopp...
748
00:40:57,152 --> 00:41:00,832
And Lancaster county
attorney Elmer scheele.
749
00:41:01,242 --> 00:41:03,422
Typically, people
think of a prosecutor,
750
00:41:03,622 --> 00:41:06,462
they think only of the person
who's in charge of the trial,
751
00:41:06,662 --> 00:41:09,592
but he got involved much
earlier and was involved in the
752
00:41:09,792 --> 00:41:11,802
investigation.
753
00:41:12,002 --> 00:41:13,762
[Man vo] Because of
the murder of the wards,
754
00:41:13,962 --> 00:41:16,932
the police were
under mounting pressure.
755
00:41:17,132 --> 00:41:21,732
[Chuckling] No society
will allow the equivalent of
756
00:41:21,932 --> 00:41:24,812
poor people to go to the rich
side of town and kill the most
757
00:41:25,012 --> 00:41:28,652
prominent citizens, especially
one that was having lunch with
758
00:41:28,852 --> 00:41:30,992
the governor that day.
759
00:41:31,192 --> 00:41:34,612
One can only imagine the
governor and everybody was
760
00:41:34,812 --> 00:41:36,532
saying, "why are you
not getting these guys?
761
00:41:36,692 --> 00:41:38,992
You're not doing your job."
762
00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:42,582
Lancaster county officials have
just discovered the ninth body,
763
00:41:42,782 --> 00:41:45,502
and sheriff merle karnopp,
what have you just done, sir?
764
00:41:45,702 --> 00:41:49,502
Mayor Martin and I have made
an appeal for all adjoining
765
00:41:49,702 --> 00:41:52,802
counties, including Omaha, to
send all available help they can
766
00:41:53,002 --> 00:41:54,002
to Lincoln.
767
00:41:54,172 --> 00:41:56,972
We want to cover
Lincoln block to block.
768
00:41:57,172 --> 00:42:02,022
Energetic tense music
769
00:42:02,222 --> 00:42:05,482
[man vo] When that happened,
the whole city just kind of went
770
00:42:05,682 --> 00:42:07,612
into a frenzy.
771
00:42:07,812 --> 00:42:10,022
The schools were shut down.
772
00:42:10,222 --> 00:42:14,862
The governor called
out the national guard.
773
00:42:15,062 --> 00:42:19,532
Radio and television
were blasting out all day long
774
00:42:19,732 --> 00:42:21,992
bulletin, bulletin, bulletin.
775
00:42:22,202 --> 00:42:26,672
People were in severe lockdown
I mean real lockdown... to
776
00:42:26,872 --> 00:42:30,002
the point where you moved
furniture in front of the doors.
777
00:42:37,672 --> 00:42:40,012
That kind of a
criminal murderer,
778
00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:43,022
who doesn't follow
any sort of a method,
779
00:42:43,222 --> 00:42:45,062
is really the most
difficult to do it.
780
00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:47,742
I mean, who would have thought
they'd go from her family in one
781
00:42:47,932 --> 00:42:51,072
part of town, then kill a
farmer who was in his 70s,
782
00:42:51,272 --> 00:42:53,532
then a couple of
young teenagers,
783
00:42:53,732 --> 00:42:56,092
then come back to Lincoln and
kill one of the most prominent
784
00:42:56,272 --> 00:42:58,032
families in Lincoln?
785
00:42:58,232 --> 00:43:01,532
And then, then
they just disappear.
786
00:43:01,732 --> 00:43:06,662
[White noise glitching]
787
00:43:09,662 --> 00:43:14,612
Dark tense music
788
00:43:14,812 --> 00:43:17,722
[man vo] He had stolen
lauer ward's big packard.
789
00:43:17,922 --> 00:43:20,602
They had travelled clear across
the state of Nebraska and well
790
00:43:20,802 --> 00:43:22,102
into Wyoming.
791
00:43:29,052 --> 00:43:32,062
For the ward vehicle
that they were in,
792
00:43:32,272 --> 00:43:35,072
and so Charley decided,
"okay, we're gonna switch cars."
793
00:43:35,272 --> 00:43:38,572
He sees somebody stopped
along the side of the road.
794
00:43:38,772 --> 00:43:40,622
This is merle collison.
795
00:43:40,822 --> 00:43:45,782
[Man vo] And this guy
refused to open the door.
796
00:43:45,992 --> 00:43:47,752
So he shot the man
through the window.
797
00:43:47,952 --> 00:43:49,622
[Gunshot]
798
00:44:05,842 --> 00:44:07,102
Sides.
799
00:44:07,302 --> 00:44:08,982
[Man vo] Caril's
still in the packard.
800
00:44:09,182 --> 00:44:11,812
She sees a police car, but
the police car can't see what's
801
00:44:12,012 --> 00:44:15,112
happening in the
middle of the road.
802
00:44:15,312 --> 00:44:19,152
[Man vo] So that's when she got
out of the car and ran to the
803
00:44:19,352 --> 00:44:22,072
deputy's car.
804
00:44:22,742 --> 00:44:25,122
[Man vo] And when she jumped
into the police officer's car,
805
00:44:25,322 --> 00:44:27,662
the police officer had no
idea what she was saying,
806
00:44:27,862 --> 00:44:31,002
he just heard this
girl completely frantic,
807
00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:31,772
couldn't tell
what she was saying,
808
00:44:31,972 --> 00:44:34,132
finally just understood
the word "starkweather!"
809
00:44:34,332 --> 00:44:36,752
And she pointed towards him.
810
00:44:36,952 --> 00:44:39,672
[Man vo] Charley sees that
a police officer sees him,
811
00:44:39,872 --> 00:44:41,682
and so he runs
back to the packard,
812
00:44:41,882 --> 00:44:44,182
jumps in, and drives off.
813
00:44:44,382 --> 00:44:48,182
We met him, uh, five
miles west of town,
814
00:44:48,382 --> 00:44:50,692
and we turned around and
chased him back through town,
815
00:44:50,892 --> 00:44:53,692
caught him three miles east.
816
00:44:53,892 --> 00:44:56,692
[Man vo] The officer shot
through the back window and
817
00:44:56,892 --> 00:44:59,192
nicked starkweather in the ear.
818
00:44:59,392 --> 00:45:01,782
Starkweather started bleeding.
819
00:45:01,982 --> 00:45:03,822
That apparently scared
starkweather enough that
820
00:45:03,862 --> 00:45:07,202
starkweather pulled over
and stopped and got out.
821
00:45:07,402 --> 00:45:09,702
[Male reporter] Chief, at the
time that he stopped and you
822
00:45:09,902 --> 00:45:12,962
pulled up to the car, what
did you fellows say to him?
823
00:45:13,162 --> 00:45:15,842
Well, we stopped about
100 yards back of him,
824
00:45:16,042 --> 00:45:18,172
told him to get out
with his hands up.
825
00:45:18,372 --> 00:45:20,672
He stepped out and
then leaned back in,
826
00:45:20,872 --> 00:45:23,012
like maybe he was
reaching for a gun or something.
827
00:45:23,212 --> 00:45:26,052
So I dropped a shot
at his feet then.
828
00:45:26,252 --> 00:45:29,852
He then put his hands back
up, got about halfway up to us,
829
00:45:30,052 --> 00:45:31,732
and then started
tucking his shirt tail in,
830
00:45:31,882 --> 00:45:33,198
so we dropped
another shot at his feet.
831
00:45:33,222 --> 00:45:34,852
[Gunshot]
832
00:45:35,052 --> 00:45:36,732
He just stood there
and glared at us,
833
00:45:36,932 --> 00:45:38,862
so we dropped
another shot at his feet.
834
00:45:39,062 --> 00:45:41,992
[Gunshot]
835
00:45:42,192 --> 00:45:44,702
He then laid down and put
his hands behind his back,
836
00:45:44,902 --> 00:45:48,162
and we handcuffed him and
put him in the police car.
837
00:45:49,822 --> 00:45:52,252
[Film reel ticking]
838
00:45:52,452 --> 00:45:55,172
[Male reporter] What's been
his attitude since his arrest?
839
00:45:55,372 --> 00:45:58,752
Well, he's been very quiet;
He won't answer no questions.
840
00:45:58,952 --> 00:46:01,098
[Male reporter] Does he seem
like he's a mean teenager or a
841
00:46:01,122 --> 00:46:02,882
mean fellow?
842
00:46:03,082 --> 00:46:04,092
Well, he's a sullen type.
843
00:46:04,292 --> 00:46:05,438
I wouldn't say that he was mean;
844
00:46:05,462 --> 00:46:08,892
he didn't show
that as soon as...
845
00:46:09,092 --> 00:46:11,182
He didn't have the best of it.
846
00:46:11,382 --> 00:46:14,352
[Male reporter] Okay.
847
00:46:14,642 --> 00:46:16,442
[Male reporter]
Caril, right here, right here!
848
00:46:16,472 --> 00:46:21,282
[Overlapping shouting]
849
00:46:21,482 --> 00:46:23,418
[Male reporter vo] Outlaw
Charles starkweather and his
850
00:46:23,442 --> 00:46:26,782
girlfriend caril
fugate are both in custody,
851
00:46:26,982 --> 00:46:30,032
riding separately in a convoy
of cars bound for Lincoln.
852
00:46:30,232 --> 00:46:32,872
Sheriff merle karnopp will
ensure starkweather cannot
853
00:46:33,072 --> 00:46:36,252
escape justice, while sheriff
karnopp's wife gertrude will
854
00:46:36,452 --> 00:46:40,252
escort fugate.
855
00:46:40,452 --> 00:46:44,132
[Woman on recording] Gertrude
drove her home with caril.
856
00:46:44,332 --> 00:46:48,262
Caril's family was
a terrible family.
857
00:46:48,462 --> 00:46:52,812
Her parents were divorced,
and then caril just hated her
858
00:46:53,012 --> 00:46:56,232
stepdad and the little girl.
859
00:46:56,432 --> 00:46:59,812
And gertrude said that she was
the fire and Charley was the
860
00:47:00,012 --> 00:47:02,272
match.
861
00:47:02,482 --> 00:47:07,342
When caril got in the car, she
was wearing mrs ward's coat.
862
00:47:07,542 --> 00:47:10,242
[Camera snaps]
863
00:47:10,442 --> 00:47:14,082
And she looked over
at gertrude and said,
864
00:47:14,282 --> 00:47:17,832
"isn't this a nice coat?"
865
00:47:18,032 --> 00:47:19,132
Gertrude just...
866
00:47:19,332 --> 00:47:20,332
"Oh my god!"
867
00:47:20,372 --> 00:47:21,462
You know?
868
00:47:21,662 --> 00:47:25,132
"That was somebody I
knew who's been killed,
869
00:47:25,332 --> 00:47:27,172
and this is her coat!"
870
00:47:27,382 --> 00:47:29,262
[Film reel ticking]
871
00:47:29,462 --> 00:47:34,392
This young girl who had
just watched her mother,
872
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:38,192
her little
half-sister, the ward family,
873
00:47:38,392 --> 00:47:43,352
all these people who had
been really slaughtered...
874
00:47:43,772 --> 00:47:46,322
And there was no
emotion there at all,
875
00:47:46,522 --> 00:47:48,362
just sort of...
876
00:47:48,562 --> 00:47:51,902
You know, phased out.
877
00:47:54,282 --> 00:47:56,008
[Man vo] The nature of our
judgment could be something
878
00:47:56,032 --> 00:47:58,212
like this.
879
00:47:58,412 --> 00:48:01,882
We've fissioned out minds; We
called it "psychoanalysis."
880
00:48:02,082 --> 00:48:04,382
Instead of using synthesis
to bring our minds to unity,
881
00:48:04,582 --> 00:48:07,172
to bring them to god,
we've torn them down,
882
00:48:07,372 --> 00:48:09,972
reduced ourselves to
the beast, to ids,
883
00:48:10,172 --> 00:48:14,142
to libidos, and to subliminal
urgings that equate us with the
884
00:48:14,342 --> 00:48:16,262
animals of the fields.
885
00:48:18,012 --> 00:48:21,402
Ominous theme music
886
00:48:21,602 --> 00:48:23,368
[male reporter vo] In
the cattle town of Douglas,
887
00:48:23,392 --> 00:48:26,902
Wyoming, end of the trail
for a smart-Alec gunman,
888
00:48:27,102 --> 00:48:29,862
a three-day spree until
Charles starkweather,
889
00:48:30,062 --> 00:48:33,032
19, landed behind prison bars.
890
00:48:33,232 --> 00:48:37,412
With him on his 600-mile reign
of terror was caril fugate.
891
00:48:37,612 --> 00:48:39,428
[Male reporter vo] The sullen
teenager... with a certain
892
00:48:39,452 --> 00:48:42,042
degree of pride...
Confessed to the murders.
893
00:48:42,242 --> 00:48:44,922
[Male reporter vo] Nebraska
is extraditing the pair.
894
00:48:45,122 --> 00:48:49,222
Suspenseful ambient music
895
00:48:49,422 --> 00:48:51,108
[woman vo] This was the
biggest thing that ever hit
896
00:48:51,132 --> 00:48:53,342
Lincoln, Nebraska.
897
00:48:53,542 --> 00:48:58,302
It was just a circus, and
it was on TV every night.
898
00:48:58,642 --> 00:49:02,942
The press were able to get this
onto the people's minds that
899
00:49:03,142 --> 00:49:07,022
it's the new Bonnie and Clyde.
900
00:49:07,732 --> 00:49:09,942
Starkweather looked bad.
901
00:49:10,142 --> 00:49:12,378
We seem him walking around with
the sheriffs on each side of
902
00:49:12,402 --> 00:49:14,952
him, has a cigarette dangling
out of his mouth and a black
903
00:49:15,152 --> 00:49:17,282
leather coat.
904
00:49:17,492 --> 00:49:21,962
I don't think he looked
too remorseful at all!
905
00:49:22,162 --> 00:49:24,082
[Woman vo] He
was this celebrity.
906
00:49:24,282 --> 00:49:28,302
He was quoted as saying, "i
always wanted to be an outlaw."
907
00:49:28,502 --> 00:49:32,302
He loved that; He
loved the attention.
908
00:49:32,502 --> 00:49:35,432
I think he truly felt like the
world was supposed to know the
909
00:49:35,632 --> 00:49:38,432
name "Charley starkweather,"
and on some level,
910
00:49:38,632 --> 00:49:42,312
he kind of realized, "the only
way I'm gonna get the fame that
911
00:49:42,512 --> 00:49:46,062
I deserve is gonna come
in the form of infamy."
912
00:49:46,262 --> 00:49:51,192
Eerie ambient music
913
00:49:55,112 --> 00:49:58,492
Charles starkweather was one
the early patient zero versions
914
00:49:58,692 --> 00:50:01,452
of "yeah, I'm going to express
my rage and kill a bunch of
915
00:50:01,652 --> 00:50:04,162
people, and it'll
make me famous.
916
00:50:04,372 --> 00:50:06,002
People will now
understand my story;
917
00:50:06,202 --> 00:50:08,342
they're gonna read my story."
918
00:50:08,542 --> 00:50:13,012
And it's one of those reasons
that this set of crimes and
919
00:50:13,212 --> 00:50:17,302
these characters stayed
in the national memory.
920
00:50:17,502 --> 00:50:19,012
[Woman vo]
Americans love outlaws;
921
00:50:19,212 --> 00:50:21,022
we always have.
922
00:50:21,222 --> 00:50:23,182
We love guns.
923
00:50:23,382 --> 00:50:26,522
We love sexuality, romance.
924
00:50:26,722 --> 00:50:32,062
And we love people who just say
"fuck you" to the establishment.
925
00:50:32,562 --> 00:50:34,032
[Gunshots]
926
00:50:34,232 --> 00:50:36,532
[Woman vo] It's an
American disease.
927
00:50:36,732 --> 00:50:41,162
We love sex and we love violence
and we love young forbidden
928
00:50:41,362 --> 00:50:42,832
romance.
929
00:50:43,032 --> 00:50:46,002
It was a dramatic story, but
it wasn't one of those arcs.
930
00:50:46,202 --> 00:50:50,382
You know, like "oh, they were
lovers and they were on the run,
931
00:50:50,582 --> 00:50:55,302
and he killed everything in
sight because he just loved her
932
00:50:55,502 --> 00:50:57,052
so much."
933
00:50:57,252 --> 00:51:02,092
It was none of those things, and
so it doesn't fit into our myth,
934
00:51:02,302 --> 00:51:07,062
and it needs to be
undressed and torn apart.
935
00:51:07,262 --> 00:51:08,642
[White noise glitching]
936
00:51:13,612 --> 00:51:16,362
[Woman vo] People can drag you
in to the point where you didn't
937
00:51:16,562 --> 00:51:20,412
know that they were evil
when you first met them.
938
00:51:20,612 --> 00:51:23,542
And it's scary; It's very scary.
939
00:51:23,742 --> 00:51:28,662
I think that's what it was
with starkweather and caril.
940
00:51:29,372 --> 00:51:35,072
[Man vo] There's a remarkable
photo of caril sitting on a cot
941
00:51:35,272 --> 00:51:37,552
in the county jail.
942
00:51:37,752 --> 00:51:42,682
Her expression is still
stone-cold and she looks angry.
943
00:51:44,682 --> 00:51:48,442
But in that photo, she
looks like a teenager.
944
00:51:48,642 --> 00:51:53,072
And she just looks tiny.
945
00:51:53,272 --> 00:51:55,612
You could read it
10 different ways.
946
00:51:55,812 --> 00:51:58,612
You can read it as guilty or
you can read it as innocent.
947
00:51:58,812 --> 00:52:02,532
But the photo itself: To see
this little girl in this big
948
00:52:02,732 --> 00:52:06,582
jail cell, and
she's all alone...
949
00:52:06,782 --> 00:52:09,542
And it's over for her.
950
00:52:11,202 --> 00:52:16,092
[Man vo] The interesting
thing about caril was her age.
951
00:52:16,292 --> 00:52:18,092
She'd just turned 14.
952
00:52:18,292 --> 00:52:20,092
Charley was 18.
953
00:52:20,292 --> 00:52:21,632
That's a huge gap.
954
00:52:23,262 --> 00:52:25,262
She was a eighth grader
at whittier junior high
955
00:52:25,462 --> 00:52:27,642
at the time.
956
00:52:29,512 --> 00:52:31,712
It was a pretty difficult
situation to be in if you're a
957
00:52:31,852 --> 00:52:34,442
14-year-old... to be on a
killing spree with your
958
00:52:34,642 --> 00:52:36,692
boyfriend.
959
00:52:38,402 --> 00:52:43,242
So the question becomes "how
much did he just pull her along,
960
00:52:43,442 --> 00:52:47,742
and she just did, you know, his
bidding because he was older?"
961
00:52:49,782 --> 00:52:53,632
So first thing, when they
take her into custody...
962
00:52:53,832 --> 00:52:56,302
The first thing she says
is "can I call my parents?
963
00:52:56,502 --> 00:52:59,542
Where are my parents?"
964
00:53:01,302 --> 00:53:03,182
Which is kind of a
curious thing to say.
965
00:53:03,382 --> 00:53:05,682
Ominous music
966
00:53:05,882 --> 00:53:06,702
[man vo] Wasn't she there?
967
00:53:06,902 --> 00:53:08,432
Didn't she know
that they were dead?
968
00:53:08,632 --> 00:53:11,392
Wasn't she
involved in killing them?
969
00:53:12,932 --> 00:53:14,618
[Woman vo] How could she not
not have known her parents
970
00:53:14,642 --> 00:53:16,772
were dead?
971
00:53:17,102 --> 00:53:22,532
I could not imagine being holed
up in a house for five days
972
00:53:22,782 --> 00:53:25,492
not knowing that
your parents are dead.
973
00:53:34,412 --> 00:53:37,542
And I thought,
"this isn't right."
974
00:53:37,752 --> 00:53:41,722
It just didn't stack up
from what I knew about...
975
00:53:41,922 --> 00:53:43,802
Girls.
976
00:53:44,552 --> 00:53:50,302
How culture has taught us to
obey and agree and just go along
977
00:53:50,852 --> 00:53:53,522
with stuff.
978
00:53:53,722 --> 00:53:58,602
It felt like there was
something wrong with the story.
979
00:54:02,692 --> 00:54:07,322
[Metronome ticking]
980
00:54:45,362 --> 00:54:46,612
[Sniffles]
981
00:54:52,492 --> 00:54:56,492
[Weeps]
982
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Eerie ambient music
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