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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:22,499 There's only one Paul Gascoigne. 2 00:00:22,589 --> 00:00:27,470 One Paul Gascoigne. There's only one Paul Gascoigne. 3 00:00:45,945 --> 00:00:47,618 Paul Gascoigne is the special one. 4 00:00:49,616 --> 00:00:52,062 He's made a brilliant run. 5 00:00:53,653 --> 00:00:56,099 Paul Gascoigne. 6 00:00:59,025 --> 00:01:01,062 He was always someone who I looked up to, 7 00:01:01,127 --> 00:01:04,472 for the way he played football and, um, and how good he was. 8 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:07,875 I still think to this day he was the greatest England player. 9 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:10,875 Gascoigne. 10 00:01:11,671 --> 00:01:12,945 He leaves two for dead. 11 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:16,077 Players in the middle... So close again. 12 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:23,423 Part of his genius, part of his magnificence, 13 00:01:23,783 --> 00:01:25,660 is the fact that he is so vulnerable. 14 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,935 Without that vulnerable side, without that carefree side, 15 00:01:33,793 --> 00:01:36,433 without all the things that come with Gazza, 16 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:42,079 I don't think Paul Gascoigne would have been the player that he was. 17 00:01:51,845 --> 00:01:53,324 Is Gascoigne going to have a crack? 18 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:56,722 He is, you know! What a play! Brilliant! 19 00:01:57,217 --> 00:02:01,063 He's the best in the world. Honestly, the best in the world. 20 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:14,073 I remember Walter Smith coming in from training once, 21 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:16,669 and he grabbed us by the neck and he wanted a word with us, 22 00:02:16,736 --> 00:02:18,113 and he was fucking serious. 23 00:02:18,338 --> 00:02:21,182 And he went, "I've just been to see a psychiatrist about you," 24 00:02:21,274 --> 00:02:23,379 he says, "And there's nothing I can do about it. 25 00:02:23,676 --> 00:02:25,314 "Just leave you, you're a genius. 26 00:02:25,545 --> 00:02:27,252 "Now get the fuck out of my sight." 27 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:29,653 That was hilarious, you know, I went, “Wow." 28 00:02:56,876 --> 00:02:58,583 I was born in Gateshead. 29 00:02:59,712 --> 00:03:02,818 I loved my childhood, you know, even though we didn't have much as a family. 30 00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:05,897 My mum worked really hard. She had three or four jobs. 31 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:09,856 That's the way things were then, you know? 32 00:03:13,459 --> 00:03:16,030 A lot of people lived for the weekends, like, on a Saturday. 33 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:23,775 The atmosphere around Newcastle when it's matchday is incredible. 34 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,178 You know, everyone's got a buzz, 35 00:03:25,271 --> 00:03:28,548 because when Newcastle win, it makes the weekend for everybody up there. 36 00:03:30,276 --> 00:03:34,053 I mean, where I lived, it must have been about eight miles away, 37 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:37,026 and you could hear even the Gallowgate End singing, you know? 38 00:03:39,485 --> 00:03:42,261 And also, when you hear the crowd, I'll get my ball out in the street 39 00:03:42,355 --> 00:03:44,596 and, as if I was playing there. 40 00:03:53,533 --> 00:03:57,345 We used to play in the sheet, where we ail had the gates at the house. 41 00:03:57,437 --> 00:03:59,280 We would, like, say, "That one's my goal, that gate, " 42 00:03:59,339 --> 00:04:01,182 and we used to use a tennis balk. 43 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:04,613 And I loved it. 44 00:04:05,011 --> 00:04:08,652 All the kids would be doing other things, I would just be with this tennis ball non-stop. 45 00:04:09,115 --> 00:04:11,857 I remember watching a match once where Johann Cruyff 46 00:04:12,619 --> 00:04:14,758 did a turn and I was like, "Wow." 47 00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:19,200 And I just tried 10 remember how he did it and went out and practised with a tennis ball. 48 00:04:23,796 --> 00:04:25,366 When I was seven, it was my birthday 49 00:04:25,465 --> 00:04:27,570 and my dad bought us my first leather football. 50 00:04:28,835 --> 00:04:31,941 And this thing never left my foot. I took it to the park, 51 00:04:32,005 --> 00:04:34,986 I took it to the school. I hid it so the teachers couldn't see it. 52 00:04:35,074 --> 00:04:37,486 Then after school I'd kick it about with the guys. 53 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:41,187 And then I remember one day I wanted to play football and 54 00:04:41,314 --> 00:04:43,794 it was 7:00 at night and I'm in my room and I've got this ball. 55 00:04:43,850 --> 00:04:46,194 So I climbed out the back window and down the drainpipe 56 00:04:46,252 --> 00:04:48,163 and just kept on kicking it in the back garden. 57 00:04:48,855 --> 00:04:50,266 And I just loved it. 58 00:04:54,494 --> 00:04:56,940 From seven to 14 was Redheugh Boys Club 59 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:59,340 every night, you know, this is every night for years. 60 00:05:07,006 --> 00:05:09,350 And I absolutely loved it because we'd go there, train, for, like, 61 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:11,318 40 minutes, or whatever, and then we got to 62 00:05:11,377 --> 00:05:14,551 play on the Saturday or the Sunday for the boys club and go away with them, 63 00:05:14,914 --> 00:05:17,861 and just mixing with other guys who were decent footballers, you know? 64 00:05:31,964 --> 00:05:33,671 I just loved entertaining. 65 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:38,181 You know, there's no better feeling than just trying to putting a smile on someone's face. 66 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:48,188 When I scored, I remember all the parents cheering and all that, you know? 67 00:05:48,247 --> 00:05:50,318 And that was a great feeling. I've got the winner, 68 00:05:50,383 --> 00:05:53,557 so I thought, well, you know, how good it would be to do that 69 00:05:53,619 --> 00:05:56,862 in front of, like, the Gallowgate End, in St James' Park. 70 00:06:04,263 --> 00:06:06,743 Growing up, Keith, who was my best mate, 71 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:09,370 I used to be at his an the time. 72 00:06:09,936 --> 00:06:12,507 His mum, Maureen, was a lovely woman. 73 00:06:12,572 --> 00:06:15,678 His dad, Harry, was sound, you know, he always watched Keith play 74 00:06:15,942 --> 00:06:20,015 and he used to have a car and he used to take you to the matches and that. 75 00:06:20,747 --> 00:06:23,921 I just felt like I had two families at that age. You know, I was fortunate. 76 00:06:25,351 --> 00:06:27,456 And me and him used to go to Redheugh Boys Club, 77 00:06:27,553 --> 00:06:29,226 and his little brother, Steven. 78 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:34,194 One day, his mum says, "Look, Keith, take Steven." 79 00:06:34,927 --> 00:06:37,669 And he was eight, and you know how brothers are 80 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:40,972 and he went, “No, I'm not going if Steven's going." 81 00:06:41,701 --> 00:06:43,044 And she went, "Paul, will you take Steven?" 82 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:44,909 I went, "Yeah, I'll look after him." 83 00:06:45,171 --> 00:06:46,548 But I was only 10. 84 00:06:46,939 --> 00:06:48,213 I was only 10. 85 00:06:49,075 --> 00:06:53,387 So I'm taking Steven. Must have been about 300 yards up the road, 200 yards. 86 00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:56,124 And we went in the shop and I said, "Quick, let's run,“ 87 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:57,961 and then we run out of the shop 88 00:06:58,451 --> 00:07:01,694 and he was ahead of me by about a yard and a car hit him. 89 00:07:05,525 --> 00:07:09,940 It was horrific. He must have went about 30 yards in the air, 90 00:07:10,029 --> 00:07:11,030 about six foot off the air 91 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:14,306 and just stayed that level and shoes come off, he was hit that hard. 92 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:15,869 I ran down the street, 93 00:07:17,069 --> 00:07:18,707 knelt down on my knees, 94 00:07:19,071 --> 00:07:21,483 and put him on my lap, and I was just seeing his lips moving a bit, 95 00:07:21,541 --> 00:07:23,817 and I want to talk, so I'm, like, "Come on, Steven, you all right?" 96 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:27,949 And I seen his lips moving, not knowing that was his last movement. 97 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:31,120 And I was stuck with this and I... He passed away. 98 00:07:36,556 --> 00:07:39,002 He didn't move, obviously, and I was just, like, screaming. 99 00:07:39,058 --> 00:07:42,232 "Help, Help," and this guy wouldn't get out of the car. 100 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:44,468 And then I just seen his mum coming, Maureen, 101 00:07:44,530 --> 00:07:46,976 she come running over and I was like... 102 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:56,080 You know, I think that was my first funeral, and it wasn't, wasn't nice. 103 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:59,851 I was only young and I didn't I didn't know how to take it. 104 00:08:04,016 --> 00:08:06,496 I remember Keith coming upstairs and he went, 105 00:08:06,752 --> 00:08:10,598 "Come on Paul. It's okay. Give him a cuddle," 106 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:15,401 and then pulling, lifting him out of the coffin, and kissing him and saying sorry. 107 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:21,479 He got cremated, 108 00:08:21,968 --> 00:08:25,541 and afterwards, like, Keith says, "Come and stay with me for a while." 109 00:08:25,905 --> 00:08:28,317 And I stayed in the room where the coffin was for three days 110 00:08:29,108 --> 00:08:30,678 and that wasn't too good. 111 00:08:31,177 --> 00:08:34,624 You know, I just, I didn't even sleep. 112 00:08:35,214 --> 00:08:36,625 Just wide awake. Just, you know, 113 00:08:36,716 --> 00:08:40,357 keep looking all the time, thinking, "That's where the coffin was." 114 00:08:40,419 --> 00:08:44,458 And then after a few days, I went back home, you know? 115 00:08:48,928 --> 00:08:52,068 But she was affected for a long time, Maureen, I know that. 116 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:54,978 You know, I remember her getting tablets to make her sleep. 117 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:56,171 She couldn't sleep, you know. 118 00:08:56,269 --> 00:08:58,977 I don't blame her. Losing her son. 119 00:08:59,272 --> 00:09:02,617 Obviously Harry had to stay strong because he was obviously the father. 120 00:09:03,209 --> 00:09:06,349 But then sadly both of them passed away, you know, with cancer. 121 00:09:06,946 --> 00:09:09,449 Which I found out, which was quite upsetting. 122 00:09:10,449 --> 00:09:13,396 So I never really got to buy her that kettle I owed her, 123 00:09:13,452 --> 00:09:14,453 because I blew her kettle up. 124 00:09:15,087 --> 00:09:16,760 When I put the kettle on there was no water in. 125 00:09:16,822 --> 00:09:19,029 So she always remembered, "You owe me a kettle." 126 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:28,038 I remember afterwards, 127 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:30,842 I started developing twitches like... 128 00:09:30,903 --> 00:09:33,975 Making stupid noises and I couldn't get rid of flashing like that. 129 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:38,419 And then my mum took us to a psychiatrist and he wanted to play with sand. 130 00:09:38,511 --> 00:09:41,048 And I just went, "Mum, don't take us back there any more.“ And she didn't. 131 00:09:41,647 --> 00:09:47,654 Um, so I don't think I started psychiatrists early. 132 00:09:51,457 --> 00:09:54,404 But we used to laugh about it, my mum, and my brothers and my sisters. 133 00:09:54,727 --> 00:09:57,037 I wouldn't do it and then all of a sudden, like, 134 00:09:57,863 --> 00:09:59,843 my sister would come by and she went "Paul..." 135 00:09:59,966 --> 00:10:03,140 And do that and that would set us off again. 136 00:10:03,235 --> 00:10:05,306 “Mum, she's doing it again." 137 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:30,233 All the time I was playing when I was 14, I was just waiting for Newcastle, really. 138 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:32,872 Fortunate for me, it happened, you know. 139 00:10:33,232 --> 00:10:35,371 But I had to put in the work as well. Ii wasn't easy. 140 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:51,220 Them days, we had to get in early. Put the kit out for the professionals. 141 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,160 If they wanted a cup of tea, make the tea. 142 00:10:53,219 --> 00:10:54,892 Then we'd have to clean the balls. 143 00:10:56,822 --> 00:11:00,065 At that time, the manager was Arthur Cox. Tough cookie. 144 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:02,670 He used to put the team sheet up on the Friday, 145 00:11:02,728 --> 00:11:04,639 who was playing on the Saturday. 146 00:11:04,897 --> 00:11:07,343 And I touched the sheet. And I went, "Look, it's a certain..." 147 00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:08,912 I think it was Neil McDonald. 148 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:11,039 Because he was a good player and he was young, and that. 149 00:11:11,103 --> 00:11:12,343 And I went, "Neil's playing," 150 00:11:12,405 --> 00:11:14,749 and I touched the sheet, and he nearly took my ear off. 151 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:16,480 He smacked us right across the ear. 152 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:19,417 And he went, "Don't touch that f-ing sheet until you're on it." 153 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:21,458 So that's what it meant to be a professional footballer 154 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:23,026 and I thought, "Shit, I'm in trouble." 155 00:11:23,582 --> 00:11:25,118 Yeah, and I was panicking. 156 00:11:25,451 --> 00:11:27,294 So I thought, I'll make him a cup of tea and that. 157 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:29,998 Polished the cup and made it perfect for him, 158 00:11:30,056 --> 00:11:32,798 and then I took it in with my hands around the rim. 159 00:11:32,858 --> 00:11:34,428 Went to give it to him and he took my head off. 160 00:11:34,927 --> 00:11:37,703 You know. “Don't f-ing touch the top of a cup 161 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:39,435 “where I've got to drink from' my son." 162 00:11:39,498 --> 00:11:41,842 And he'd just put his feet up and lie back in his chair. 163 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:45,979 So I had to go make him another one and I made sure it was all done perfect, 164 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:48,018 and, you know, I made sure I never touched that sheet again. 165 00:11:52,011 --> 00:11:54,753 What are we doing? Are we standing out here or are we going inside, or what? 166 00:11:54,814 --> 00:11:56,919 - Going in, I think. - Haven't been in, yet 167 00:12:01,654 --> 00:12:05,067 I was just in awe of the man, with England in 1966. 168 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:08,027 And he comes to the club and I wasn't really in the youth team. 169 00:12:08,327 --> 00:12:09,897 I was sub in that. 170 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,833 I wasn't really getting that much of a game. 171 00:12:12,098 --> 00:12:14,704 You know, after I finished training, go home and had a light bottle of pop, 172 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,747 fish and chips, and a bag of Minstrels. 173 00:12:16,836 --> 00:12:18,975 And he pulled us aside and he went, "Can I have a word with you?“ 174 00:12:19,171 --> 00:12:21,617 I was, like, "Oof." I was shaking a bit and I went, "Yeah." 175 00:12:21,707 --> 00:12:23,311 And he went, "Yeah, you're a good player." 176 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,245 I went, "Yeah, I am." 177 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,017 He says, "How long have you got left on your contract?“ 178 00:12:27,113 --> 00:12:29,354 I went... I said, "Yeah, I've got a couple of years." 179 00:12:29,648 --> 00:12:31,321 And he went, “No, you've two weeks, you fat bastard. 180 00:12:31,383 --> 00:12:32,953 “You better start losing weight." 181 00:12:33,018 --> 00:12:36,261 You know, I would like to think it was puppy fat at 17. 182 00:12:36,355 --> 00:12:38,562 Sixteen and a half to be fair... 183 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:40,069 Yeah, I was sixteen and half and then, 184 00:12:40,126 --> 00:12:43,630 I stopped the Minstrels, I stopped with the Coke, bottles of Coke. 185 00:12:44,263 --> 00:12:45,867 Yeah, and I got weighed every day. 186 00:12:47,733 --> 00:12:49,144 It worked, you know. 187 00:12:49,235 --> 00:12:51,237 I'd been hardly playing for the youth team. 188 00:12:51,637 --> 00:12:54,083 Within a month I was captain of the youth team. 189 00:12:54,573 --> 00:12:56,075 I was captain of the reserves. 190 00:12:56,408 --> 00:12:59,821 And took them onto... We got to the Youth Cup final. 191 00:13:03,048 --> 00:13:05,654 Jack Charlton, he went, "What are you doing tomorrow?" 192 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,595 Sort of thing, this was a Friday night, after the game. 193 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:11,200 And I went, "I'm just gonna go back. Just chill out, you know." 194 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:13,999 And he went, "I would like you to play for the first team tomorrow." 195 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:16,664 And that was my start of my career. 196 00:13:40,219 --> 00:13:43,564 Once I started playing for Newcastle, it was... 197 00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:46,330 The feeling was, the buzz was incredible, you know. 198 00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:51,507 Playing for your hometown, and that. 199 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,674 And then eventually, you know, one minute you were looking at 200 00:13:53,732 --> 00:13:57,043 the Gallowgate and seeing the fans roar and that, 201 00:13:57,102 --> 00:13:59,082 and then eventually scoring in front of them, you know. 202 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:14,756 The feeling was amazing. It was fantastic. 203 00:14:15,554 --> 00:14:17,090 Like, "Wow," just thinking, "I've scored, I've scored. 204 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:20,193 "I'll tell me Dad. I'll watch it on Match of the Day, "you know. 205 00:14:20,459 --> 00:14:23,406 Then you hear the fans singing your name, you know. 206 00:14:23,462 --> 00:14:25,635 It's unbelievable. 207 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:28,474 Well, it's goals like that which have made Paul Gascoigne, or Gazza, 208 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:31,242 as they all know him, a real hero to the people who stand 209 00:14:31,303 --> 00:14:33,214 on these terraces at St James' Park. 210 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,149 He looks like the kind of footballer who plays for the local Sunday pub team 211 00:14:36,208 --> 00:14:37,915 until you see him play, that is. 212 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:41,424 The reason the supporters really love Gazza is he's one of them, 213 00:14:41,513 --> 00:14:44,858 T-shirt, anorak and jeans and a diet of Mars bars and brown ale. 214 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:46,896 You won't find it in the coaching manuals, 215 00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:49,899 but when you can score goals like he scores, who cares? 216 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:06,008 The first time I heard the name Paul Gascoigne, 217 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:08,745 was when he was in his early days at Newcastle. 218 00:15:09,508 --> 00:15:12,580 People in the game started talking about this young man 219 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:14,647 that had something a little bit special. 220 00:15:15,514 --> 00:15:17,050 He was a precocious young talent. 221 00:15:17,149 --> 00:15:19,823 A kid that would do things, that would take people on, 222 00:15:19,885 --> 00:15:23,799 that would beat people, and had an unbelievable natural talent. 223 00:15:26,892 --> 00:15:31,398 I think it's about 35 years since I seen a kid as good as what this lad is. 224 00:15:31,463 --> 00:15:33,568 And I just cannot believe the skills of him, he's got everything. 225 00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:35,336 Everything. Sticks out a mile. 226 00:15:35,634 --> 00:15:37,841 And he'll tell you so as well, you know. 227 00:15:37,903 --> 00:15:39,712 - He's a class... Confident. - He's a confident lad. 228 00:15:40,539 --> 00:15:42,382 There's no holding him, he's the best in the world. 229 00:15:42,541 --> 00:15:44,316 Honestly. The best in the world. 230 00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:03,930 The manager would say, "Right, then, 231 00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:07,244 "you're lining up against John Fashanu, big, strong in the air 232 00:16:07,333 --> 00:16:08,505 "and tough, and all that. 233 00:16:08,734 --> 00:16:10,907 "Peter Beardsley, you're up against, you know, this... 234 00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:13,940 "Andy Thorn, tough guy, good in the air, boom-boom." 235 00:16:14,173 --> 00:16:16,483 And he just went, "Gazza, good luck." 236 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,117 That was all he said. 237 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:19,721 I was, "What do you mean, 'Good luck?“ 238 00:16:19,778 --> 00:16:22,588 He went, "You're playing against a guy, that... He's quite hard. Vinnie Jones." 239 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:32,229 Coming out of the tunnel, he just fucking looked at us. 240 00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:35,300 He strains his neck like that, and he went, “Me and you, fat boy." 241 00:16:35,461 --> 00:16:36,667 I went, “Shit," 242 00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:40,266 you know, and we're walking through the tunnel and I just looked at him again 243 00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:42,903 and he went, "What are you fucking looking at? Just me and you, fat boy!" 244 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:46,174 He says, "I cannot play football and neither are you today." 245 00:16:52,411 --> 00:16:56,154 They could say that Vinnie Jones is marking Gascoigne. 246 00:16:56,215 --> 00:17:00,186 And he followed us, everywhere. This guy was, just, like, solid. 247 00:17:00,252 --> 00:17:02,664 It wasn't like he... He was just solid. 248 00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:03,995 And he wouldn't leave us. 249 00:17:04,556 --> 00:17:07,196 An amazing dribble. Goodness, me... Whoa! 250 00:17:07,493 --> 00:17:10,440 As the game went on, I just felt a bit more, like, 251 00:17:10,529 --> 00:17:11,906 confident and that, and I went, 252 00:17:11,997 --> 00:17:13,305 "I fucking didn't bother with this guy." 253 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:15,367 And he started backing up on us 254 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:18,079 and so I, sort of like, gave him a push and that's when he squeezed me, 255 00:17:18,170 --> 00:17:19,308 squeezed me balls. 256 00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:26,248 He really squeezed them so hard. and I was like... 257 00:17:28,147 --> 00:17:30,149 Honestly, I thought I'd lost my family allowance. 258 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:34,355 We're going in the dressing room and some girls sent us some roses 259 00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:36,461 and I went, “That's nice, I'll give them to Vinnie." 260 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:39,229 So I went and I says, "Can you give them to Vinnie Jones, please, from me?" 261 00:17:39,291 --> 00:17:42,067 I went back to the dressing room and then the guy came back, a young kid, 262 00:17:42,261 --> 00:17:43,331 he went, "That's from Vinnie." 263 00:17:43,429 --> 00:17:47,138 He was sending us back a toilet brush, he said to go fuck off. 264 00:17:50,269 --> 00:17:51,646 That was my first experience 265 00:17:51,703 --> 00:17:54,411 with Vinnie, you know. He's been a good friend since, like, you know. 266 00:18:03,982 --> 00:18:06,553 I'd played for Newcastle for a year and a half then. 267 00:18:06,618 --> 00:18:08,825 And, you know, my name was getting round. 268 00:18:10,355 --> 00:18:11,891 Glenn Roeder said, "Look at Tottenham, 269 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:14,095 "Terry Venables wants to sign you at the end of the season." 270 00:18:14,726 --> 00:18:16,205 And I just thought, well, 271 00:18:16,261 --> 00:18:17,899 Tottenham is a big, massive club. 272 00:18:18,197 --> 00:18:20,074 So is Newcastle, but they were buying players. 273 00:18:20,866 --> 00:18:23,642 When I spoke to Terry Venables, he says, "One thing I can promise you, 274 00:18:23,702 --> 00:18:25,978 "if you come to this club I will get you to play for England." 275 00:18:26,805 --> 00:18:29,081 And, you know, the thought of playing for England, wow. 276 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:31,979 And then, all of a sudden, Man United come in. 277 00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:37,153 I thought, "Ooh, Man United, Sir Alex Ferguson,“ you know. 278 00:18:37,249 --> 00:18:39,559 The experience of the guy is phenomenal. 279 00:18:40,886 --> 00:18:42,957 So I spoke to Sir Alex and I says, "Yeah, 280 00:18:43,655 --> 00:18:46,226 "I'm gonna sign for you." And he went, "Brilliant." 281 00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:48,202 He says, "So I can go on holiday now. 282 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:49,864 "I've got the player I want?“ 283 00:18:50,229 --> 00:18:52,470 I says, "Yeah, you go away on holiday, 284 00:18:52,531 --> 00:18:54,738 "I'm signing, and really enjoy yourself." 285 00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:56,107 He went, "Cheers, son." 286 00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,971 So I'm on the way to Man United and then 287 00:18:59,104 --> 00:19:01,345 Tottenham said, "Look, I tell you what we'll do, 288 00:19:01,406 --> 00:19:02,817 "we'll buy your parents a house." 289 00:19:03,408 --> 00:19:05,354 I'm... "Fucking hell. A house." 290 00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:06,650 I ring my dad up 291 00:19:06,745 --> 00:19:09,021 and I said, "Dad, you know, I want to sign for Man United 292 00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:13,492 "but Spurs has offered to buy you and mum a house." 293 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,990 And he went, "What the fuck are you waiting for then?" 294 00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:19,126 Which was brilliant. I went, "Okay," 295 00:19:19,291 --> 00:19:22,135 and then he went, "Can you get a car for us?" 296 00:19:24,296 --> 00:19:27,641 So I went, “Hold on, Dad." So I went, "Terry, my dad wants a car." 297 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:31,172 I was shitting myself and he went, "Consider it done. " 298 00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:34,941 So I'm driving up the motorway, the phone goes again 299 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:36,509 I'm like, "No, it's family." 300 00:19:36,575 --> 00:19:38,350 I went, "Yeah." It was my sister. 301 00:19:38,410 --> 00:19:39,980 She went, "Paul, well, if my mum's getting a house 302 00:19:40,045 --> 00:19:42,321 "and my dad's getting a car, I want a sunbed." 303 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:45,226 I went, "Hold on." So I ring, 304 00:19:45,317 --> 00:19:47,422 "You know, the house is quite nice and that, 305 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:48,897 "and my sister's room is quite good. 306 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:51,501 "Is it okay if she can have a sunbed, please?" 307 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:55,595 And he went, "Okay, we'll get you a sunbed for your sister." 308 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:58,938 And that was it, signed for Spurs. 309 00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:31,007 The pressure was on. 310 00:20:31,096 --> 00:20:33,269 Highest transferred player in the country, 311 00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:37,177 £2.2 million, you know, you look at it now, some people get that a month. 312 00:20:37,502 --> 00:20:41,609 But, for that moment, to go for two million, the pressure was on. 313 00:20:41,707 --> 00:20:43,516 Spurs coming forward again. 314 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:45,816 This is Chris Waddle, made a bit of space for himself. 315 00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:48,584 Fine run by Gascoigne! Real chance! 316 00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:53,392 Denied, he test his boot in the process. But that is his first goal for Spurs, 317 00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:55,489 and it was scored without a boot. 318 00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:58,498 It was a sort of impudence. 319 00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:02,895 Gascoigne... Wonderful! 320 00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:04,997 He had great confidence. 321 00:21:09,868 --> 00:21:11,370 You could see he played for the love of the game. 322 00:21:11,503 --> 00:21:12,504 Completely for the love of the game. 323 00:21:12,571 --> 00:21:14,710 He didn't, obviously, give it too much thought. 324 00:21:15,807 --> 00:21:18,617 And he had this amazing strength, upper body, 325 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:19,984 where he'd push people off. 326 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:24,353 Beautiful combination from Gascoigne, and he's won out! 327 00:21:26,351 --> 00:21:28,422 He excited you on the pitch. 328 00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:29,625 It mightn't have been the best of games 329 00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:34,000 but he lifted everyone when he got the ball and you could feel an anticipation. 330 00:21:35,394 --> 00:21:39,501 Gascoigne taking the ball on, and scoring superbly! 331 00:21:39,631 --> 00:21:41,474 And did he enjoy that. 332 00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:44,343 And you get fan mail. The fan mail starts coming 333 00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:46,074 thick and fast, you know. 334 00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:47,776 I remember opening my first fan mail 335 00:21:47,873 --> 00:21:49,477 and it was from Sir Alex Ferguson. 336 00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:51,311 I said, "Ooh, shit." 337 00:21:51,576 --> 00:21:54,614 He went, "I can't believe what you've done, you stupid bastard." 338 00:21:54,946 --> 00:21:59,258 Again, just, "You've turned down the biggest club in the world." 339 00:21:59,351 --> 00:22:04,425 He says, "You know, I turned down all these Barcelonas, Madrids and AC Milan 340 00:22:04,489 --> 00:22:06,491 "come to Man United, You told me to go on my holiday 341 00:22:06,591 --> 00:22:08,502 "and you sign for fucking Spurs.“ 342 00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:11,400 It took him six years to get speaking to us again. 343 00:22:20,906 --> 00:22:22,783 I loved it at Spurs, you know. 344 00:22:22,874 --> 00:22:24,410 The times I had there were fantastic. 345 00:22:24,576 --> 00:22:26,249 The fun and the laughs we had, you know, 346 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,723 the team spirit was absolutely brilliant. 347 00:22:29,047 --> 00:22:31,653 I mean, Terry Venables was the only manager I could think of in this world 348 00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:32,956 that could deal with us. 349 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,031 I remember halfway through the season, 350 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:40,331 the lads went, "I thought you do crazy things, Gazza." 351 00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:43,429 I went, "I am I do. We'll do something tomorrow." 352 00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:45,634 So I'm driving home and I pass a zoo. 353 00:22:46,164 --> 00:22:48,542 And I just looked and I went, “That'd be interesting." 354 00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:51,778 The guy's house was actually in the zoo. 355 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,781 I went to his house at 7:30 in the morning, 356 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:55,874 knocking on his door. He went, "What do you want, Gazza?" 357 00:22:56,174 --> 00:22:57,881 I went, "Can I borrow an ostrich?" 358 00:22:59,578 --> 00:23:01,990 He fucking... “What do you want an ostrich for?" 359 00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,787 I said, "I just need to fucking borrow one." 360 00:23:08,587 --> 00:23:09,895 Stick it in the back of the car. 361 00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:12,264 Ostrich giving that with its long neck, man. 362 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:14,264 And I waited till the lads went out warming up 363 00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:18,134 and I got the ostrich. I went, "Yeah, lads, look at this new player Terry Venables signed, 364 00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:20,436 "the gaffer's signed," and I threw it on the pitch. 365 00:23:20,499 --> 00:23:23,708 And it was so funny because the lads were doing side-to-side running 366 00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:25,771 and this ostrich was doing the same behind. 367 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:27,816 I thought it was quite funny. 368 00:23:28,006 --> 00:23:31,783 All the lads did but the lads finish training at 1:00. 369 00:23:31,877 --> 00:23:33,584 Have you ever tried catching a fucking ostrich? 370 00:23:34,312 --> 00:23:36,918 Honestly. I caught this ostrich... 371 00:23:37,048 --> 00:23:40,257 I got the ostrich back at around 5:00 in the afternoon. 372 00:23:40,352 --> 00:23:41,387 I was knackered. 373 00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:53,067 Well, the training ground experience, 374 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:55,645 like anything else with Gazza, is always, 375 00:23:56,701 --> 00:23:57,975 is always great fun. 376 00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:02,147 A practical joker, 377 00:24:02,207 --> 00:24:04,949 beyond the likes of which I don't think I've ever seen, 378 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:07,456 before or after. 379 00:24:07,546 --> 00:24:10,220 Didn't always know where the line was. 380 00:24:10,315 --> 00:24:12,420 And would occasionally cross it. 381 00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:14,760 Honestly, Gary Lineker has got a woman's body. 382 00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:16,958 It's so smooth and everything, honestly. 383 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:20,495 He could be, could have, close to the body of a ladyboy. 384 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,505 We used to have a guy coming along to training. 385 00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:28,442 Nice chap. Do anything for you. 386 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,344 One day, Gazza had brought in this campervan 387 00:24:31,436 --> 00:24:33,677 and he'd gone and got one of those parking cones. 388 00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:35,877 He climbed up and he put it on the roof. 389 00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,146 This chap comes out. 390 00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:39,785 Gazza shouts to him, he says, "Hey, just, do us a favour 391 00:24:39,845 --> 00:24:42,724 "just nip up there and get the cone off the roof. 392 00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:45,125 "Somebody, somebody's put it on the roof of my van." 393 00:24:45,217 --> 00:24:46,855 So he went, "Yeah, sure." 394 00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:48,431 So he goes and he climbs up the ladder on the back 395 00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:49,591 and he gets up. 396 00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:51,861 And as he does so, 397 00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:55,427 Gazza switches the thing on and goes and drives out. 398 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:58,668 And now the fellow is hanging on this ladder, on the back of this truck. 399 00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:01,971 And he goes out of the gates at the old training ground in Mill Hill. 400 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,479 Turns right and there's a little mini roundabout 401 00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:07,312 about 200 yards uphill. He goes up this roundabout. 402 00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:09,816 The fellow now is like Superman, horizontal, 403 00:25:09,908 --> 00:25:11,819 hanging onto this ladder at the back. 404 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:15,653 It was the most dangerous but hilarious thing, I think I've ever seen. 405 00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:18,327 And he went around the roundabout, screeched back. 406 00:25:18,383 --> 00:25:21,455 Still somehow he hung on, thankfully. 407 00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:23,226 Otherwise it could have been disastrous. 408 00:25:23,288 --> 00:25:27,293 Screeched back into the car park. Parked it. Everyone's crying with laughter, 409 00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:29,929 and, as he pulls in, Terry Venables walks out 410 00:25:30,662 --> 00:25:32,073 and he comes out and he goes, 411 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:33,675 "I don't wanna be seeing this really, do I?" 412 00:25:33,732 --> 00:25:35,507 And he walked straight back in again. 413 00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:43,777 I think if you just let someone have their head completely, 414 00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:46,446 it can go out of control and you can blossom the person. 415 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,752 If you keep right on top of them, you stifle it. 416 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:51,023 It's the personality that he is. 417 00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:53,184 I mean, he's a joy to have in the club. 418 00:25:53,451 --> 00:25:57,661 The players like him. You know, he's a kind fellow 419 00:25:57,789 --> 00:25:59,666 and he's got a lot of heart and warmth. 420 00:26:02,694 --> 00:26:04,139 Terry Venables was brilliant. 421 00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,703 I think it was, yeah. I think it was me 10th game. 422 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:09,508 And he says "Gaz, I need to see you." 423 00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:12,513 He shouted it from his window because his office is upstairs. 424 00:26:12,637 --> 00:26:15,174 And I thought, "Shit, well, I'm in trouble here. What have I done?" 425 00:26:15,273 --> 00:26:19,016 And he says, "Sit down." And he kept a serious face. 426 00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:21,624 I'm going, "I haven't done anything wrong, have I? I haven't?" 427 00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:24,124 He went, "I've got some news for you." 428 00:26:24,382 --> 00:26:25,759 And I was like, "Yeah?" 429 00:26:25,951 --> 00:26:28,158 He went, "You've been picked for England." Wow. 430 00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,560 Feel like crying now, thinking about it. 431 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:41,909 I worked with Mr Robson, 432 00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:46,539 and Mr Robson was really in love with Paul 433 00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:51,115 and was permanently speaking about his talent 434 00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:56,023 and about the pleasure he had to coach such a talented player. 435 00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:58,019 He is a rare talent, 436 00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,027 which we need to nurture and we need to 437 00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:03,623 give him his head sometimes and he needs just to be disciplined as well. 438 00:27:07,592 --> 00:27:10,937 I don't think, going into 1990, expectations were that high. 439 00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:15,468 Obviously, England had underachieved since '66, when we won the World Cup. 440 00:27:15,567 --> 00:27:19,242 Inside the camp, I think we were, you know, quietly confident. 441 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,410 You'd look around. You'd go, "We've actually got a really good group of players here. 442 00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:24,714 "We've got half a chance, if things go our way.“ 443 00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:31,517 In that World Cup, there wasn't anybody that stood out, 444 00:27:31,716 --> 00:27:35,391 basically, from the first game. It was Cameroon versus Argentina, 445 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,564 with Maradona and that playing, and Cameroon won, one-nil. 446 00:27:39,057 --> 00:27:41,663 And you think, well, everybody's got a chance here, you know. 447 00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:54,539 The game against the Dutch was the game that Gazza emerged 448 00:27:54,773 --> 00:27:57,276 as being a genuinely world-class talent. 449 00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:04,816 Gazza was brilliant. Unbelievably brilliant. 450 00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,829 I remember him. He was chasing Ruud Gullit, 451 00:28:07,886 --> 00:28:08,956 pulling his dreadlocks. 452 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:12,194 And he was winding Gullit up. And he was going, "What? Who? 453 00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:14,396 "Who is this kid? What's he doing?" 454 00:28:16,394 --> 00:28:19,307 The one thing I used to love about watching Paul play was 455 00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:22,343 how he got the ball and he ran at defenders with the ball and... 456 00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:24,676 Nowadays you mightn’t getaway with it 457 00:28:24,736 --> 00:28:26,909 but he'd always protect himself with his arms. 458 00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:29,949 It's a great art to be able to do, and, 459 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,881 you know, to not let the defenders near you. 460 00:28:31,943 --> 00:28:34,150 Gascoigne. 461 00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:36,791 This is brilliant stuff from Gascoigne. 462 00:28:38,316 --> 00:28:40,796 He was aggressive. Very physical. 463 00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:43,832 At the same time, very technical. 464 00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:48,337 Fantastic characteristics that you need to be a top football player. 465 00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:01,614 Scifo went for it and I sort of, like, tackled him, 466 00:29:01,706 --> 00:29:03,913 but what happened was I brought me other foot across 467 00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:07,582 and sort of like tried to give him a whack, a little bit, as well, and the referee's seen it. 468 00:29:07,779 --> 00:29:11,522 The Belgians unhappy with that, and Gascoigne gets a yellow card. 469 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:13,256 I forgot about the yellow card. 470 00:29:14,052 --> 00:29:15,554 A couple of minutes left, I got booked. 471 00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:18,392 I just wanted to give my all, like all the players we had. 472 00:29:18,456 --> 00:29:20,299 Give it all for England, you know. 473 00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,832 It's a battle against the clock here, for sure. 474 00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:26,706 I was thinking what to do with the ball, 475 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:29,038 whether I was just going to just try to whack it towards the keeper. 476 00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:30,579 But then Bobby Robson, I could hear him, 477 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,874 and I dare not look at him, 478 00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:33,938 and I can hear him screaming, "Just chip it in. Chip it in." 479 00:29:34,005 --> 00:29:35,416 You know, and... 480 00:29:35,507 --> 00:29:37,680 Eventually, like, we got Butcher forward and then, 481 00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:42,221 then I did the worst pass in the world. I chipped it to David Platt 482 00:29:42,313 --> 00:29:44,054 and made him a player. Devastated. 483 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:45,517 Then I... 484 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:47,619 Gascoigne's free kick. 485 00:29:48,486 --> 00:29:51,592 And Platt! David Platt has scored for England. 486 00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:55,596 It was the explosion of different emotions. 487 00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:59,767 It wasn't just the joy of the fact that this was a last-minute, stunning winner. 488 00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:03,141 It was also the fact that, we haven't got to take penalties. 489 00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,508 England, through to the quarter-finals, 490 00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:08,710 and Gascoigne's reaction says it all. 491 00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:14,146 Afterwards, it was brilliant, because afterwards, after the game, 492 00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:16,590 we're all in the dressing room, and diving in the bath 493 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:18,457 and doing somersaults and everything, you know. 494 00:30:18,616 --> 00:30:21,028 We were over the moon to get through that one. 495 00:30:27,458 --> 00:30:29,529 The atmosphere in the dressing room was incredible. 496 00:30:30,128 --> 00:30:33,007 Incredible because we were under a lot of pressure in that game, you know. 497 00:30:33,932 --> 00:30:35,104 Gascoigne calling for it. 498 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:38,670 Here's Stuart Pearce looking long to the far post. 499 00:30:38,736 --> 00:30:40,374 And David Platt! 500 00:30:42,273 --> 00:30:43,809 We took the lead, David Platt. 501 00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:46,948 And then they scored two goals. 502 00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:51,151 And it's one-one. 503 00:30:54,619 --> 00:30:57,225 Cameroon, they're in the lead! 504 00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,858 Whilst we knew they were a good side, 505 00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:01,198 if we'd have come home, losing to Cameroon, 506 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,903 you know, they would have been the first African side to make 507 00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:06,634 the semi-finals of the World Cup, we'd have been ridiculed. 508 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:10,035 You know, then there's the little ball knocked into me. 509 00:31:10,101 --> 00:31:12,741 I turn, got brought down. Penalty. 510 00:31:16,741 --> 00:31:18,220 And Lineker scores! 511 00:31:18,309 --> 00:31:20,915 And it's all square at two-two. 512 00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:25,550 Often the only way you'd have a chance of getting the ball off Gazza 513 00:31:26,150 --> 00:31:28,824 was actually if he knew you had no alternative but to give it 514 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:31,060 to him straight back, a little one-two. 515 00:31:31,189 --> 00:31:33,499 Unless he was completely knackered. 516 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,261 Then you've got a chance as well. 517 00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:38,397 A la extra time. Against Cameroon. 518 00:31:38,496 --> 00:31:40,066 Quarter finals of the World Cup. 519 00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:42,166 England much more on top now. 520 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:43,745 This is Gascoigne. 521 00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:46,748 That's a great ball to Lineker. He's got away! 522 00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:49,580 And he's brought down. Another penalty, surely. 523 00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:51,551 That pass there, which he was capable of 524 00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,819 all the time but didn't do very often, 525 00:31:53,978 --> 00:31:55,924 was because he couldn't run any more. 526 00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:02,459 Straight down the middle! England are back in the lead. 527 00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:07,030 We were in a World Cup semi-final. 528 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:09,298 You know, we had done better than any other team had ever done, 529 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:12,340 for England, apart from on our own shores. 530 00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:20,548 Gascoigne has done so much to pull England into the semi-finals. 531 00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:24,484 And no one appreciates that more than his manager, Bobby Robson. 532 00:32:37,588 --> 00:32:41,263 England's footballers are preparing for their most important game 533 00:32:41,326 --> 00:32:44,273 since winning the World Cup in 1966. 534 00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,099 They fly to Turin later today 535 00:32:46,197 --> 00:32:48,507 for Wednesdays semi-final against West Germany. 536 00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:52,071 The night before the game, the semi-final, was all, like... 537 00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:54,911 I was rooming with Chris Waddle. It was half past 10:00 538 00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:57,612 and I was with Chris and I went, "I can't sleep. I'm going for a walk." 539 00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:00,650 So I was out for a walk and I just heard some guys playing tennis. 540 00:33:01,346 --> 00:33:03,986 So, it was two Americans, I went, "Can I join in lads? I'll challenge you." 541 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:07,061 So I was working my nuts off to beat these two Americans 542 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:09,064 and I hear, "Gazza." 543 00:33:10,955 --> 00:33:13,492 And I just see Sir Bobby Robson. 544 00:33:14,625 --> 00:33:16,434 I've ran. I've ran to my room. 545 00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:18,834 About five minutes later there's smashing at the door. 546 00:33:18,896 --> 00:33:20,500 Sir Bobby Robson. Banging like mad. 547 00:33:20,631 --> 00:33:23,077 "Open the door. Open the door. Chris, where's Gazza?" 548 00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:25,539 And so I looked at Chris, I went, "Tell him I'm sleeping." 549 00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:27,147 He went, "He's sleeping, gaffer." 550 00:33:27,538 --> 00:33:29,916 He went, "Sleeping? He's just been playing tennis." 551 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,749 And Chris looked at us and I went... 552 00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:34,254 And that was it. A little letter come through the door. 553 00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:35,653 "I'll see you in the morning." 554 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:38,754 So I didn't sleep well that night because I thought he was going to drop us. 555 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:44,159 Bobby Robson wanted a team meeting, with all the players. 556 00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:47,129 But he was late for the meeting. He was always, he was always a bit late 557 00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,999 and whilst he was late, 558 00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:52,132 I, I put on this board 559 00:33:52,263 --> 00:33:55,073 I put, "Even money, he mentions the war." 560 00:33:57,101 --> 00:33:59,445 Then I put the sheet back down and Bobby comes in 561 00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:01,014 and he addresses, we're all sitting there. 562 00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:02,345 And he goes, 563 00:34:03,474 --> 00:34:04,714 "We beat them in the war." 564 00:34:05,176 --> 00:34:08,055 It was his first words and it was just... And then there was this uproar, 565 00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:10,592 uproar, in the whole room and Bobby's going, 566 00:34:10,648 --> 00:34:12,594 "What's going on? What? What?" 567 00:34:12,650 --> 00:34:14,391 So, I said, "You might wanna turn?" 568 00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:17,228 So he turned it over and he went, "You bugger." 569 00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,139 The teams, just about to appear 570 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:32,271 and the atmosphere here in Turin is absolutely wonderful. 571 00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:35,317 Huge support for both sides. Huge anticipation. 572 00:34:38,142 --> 00:34:40,622 The only thing you hear is just this unbelievable noise, you know. 573 00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,655 And the longer you're in the tunnel, the worse it gets. 574 00:34:48,686 --> 00:34:51,997 Try not listening. Put a deaf ear to it, you know, because all you think is, like, 575 00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,592 "Win this, and you're in the final of the World Cup." 576 00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:55,899 Which England haven't done since 1966, you know. 577 00:34:59,897 --> 00:35:02,878 I just seen the way the players had passion in them there, you know? 578 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,971 They just stood up. Three Lions. 579 00:35:05,069 --> 00:35:08,778 We were singing the national anthem, and it was incredible. 580 00:35:09,173 --> 00:35:10,584 The adrenaline was unbelievable. 581 00:35:18,983 --> 00:35:20,792 I think that was one of my best games for England. 582 00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:22,593 Nearly scored in the first five minutes. 583 00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:25,895 Gascoigne! And he's close. 584 00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:27,863 A bright start for England. 585 00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:33,833 We were so... I didn't realise that we were actually much the better side on that day. 586 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:36,267 Stuart Pearce. 587 00:35:40,271 --> 00:35:43,275 It's a challenge, and that's a free kick to West Germany. 588 00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:45,883 England wall. 589 00:35:47,011 --> 00:35:48,547 And this is Brehme. 590 00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:53,224 And it was deflected, and over Peter Shilton. 591 00:35:53,618 --> 00:35:55,256 Unlucky. 592 00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:57,459 Parker. 593 00:35:58,389 --> 00:36:01,063 Lineker forward, but somewhat outnumbered. 594 00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:02,729 But he's stolen it! 595 00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:08,643 And it's one-one, and England's players and fans alike go wild. 596 00:36:09,767 --> 00:36:11,440 Wonderful comeback. 597 00:36:11,969 --> 00:36:14,347 That smile says it all. 598 00:36:14,472 --> 00:36:16,110 What about that hug? 599 00:36:16,607 --> 00:36:20,111 And then, obviously, the famous... The second yellow card. 600 00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:24,616 Gascoigne, shrugging off a challenge. 601 00:36:25,449 --> 00:36:29,955 And then losing it a bit and stretching for it and that could be trouble! 602 00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:31,624 And, honestly, if I look at it, 603 00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:34,693 back at it, I honestly don't think I even touched the guy. 604 00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,503 He's took the ball and my foot, that's actually supposed to have kicked him, 605 00:36:38,596 --> 00:36:40,098 was behind his heel. 606 00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:43,178 You know, I didn't seem to have made any contact whatsoever. 607 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:47,209 And he's rolling all over as if I'd, like, done him in badly. 608 00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:50,152 The scream might have pissed me off more than anything. 609 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,017 'Cause he screamed like a baby and he's like... 610 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,623 So I tried to put my fingers in his mouth and try and shut him up, and... 611 00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:57,590 But obviously he's carried on squealing. 612 00:36:58,516 --> 00:37:00,154 When I get kicked, I take it as a compliment. 613 00:37:00,484 --> 00:37:02,589 That means they're worried about us, you know. 614 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:06,094 I could never bring myself to rolling all over, you know. 615 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:07,926 Especially where I'm from and that. 616 00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,432 It's a yellow card for Paul Gascoigne. 617 00:37:11,495 --> 00:37:15,238 He's already had one in this tournament, and his face tells the story. 618 00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:19,907 He knows that if England get to the final, he will not be a part of it. 619 00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:25,085 All I kept thinking about with the card was if I get to the final, I'm missing it 620 00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:28,021 And I worked so hard to get to where I was, you know, 621 00:37:28,112 --> 00:37:30,023 semi-final of the World Cup and... 622 00:37:31,716 --> 00:37:33,491 Then obviously the crying. 623 00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:46,699 After a couple of minutes, I just thought to myself, 624 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:50,178 give me all in the last 20 minutes and get the lads to the final. 625 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:51,645 You know, if you have a look at that last 20 minutes 626 00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:53,909 I really worked my nuts off. 627 00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:58,548 It'll be England's first-ever penalty shoot-out, 628 00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,418 and what a time for it to come. 629 00:38:00,745 --> 00:38:03,521 A place in the World Cup final at stake. 630 00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:06,890 At that stage, at the end of the game, Gazza then goes, 631 00:38:08,185 --> 00:38:09,459 "That's my World Cup over. 632 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,025 "That's, so, you know, that's it. 633 00:38:12,156 --> 00:38:15,228 "Whatever happens now, I'm not going to be playing again." 634 00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:21,671 When Sir Bobby come up on the pitch, 635 00:38:21,732 --> 00:38:23,336 you know, he hugged us and he went, 636 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:26,040 "Look at you, you've done me proud, you've done your country proud, 637 00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:29,107 'you've done your family proud, your club proud, your manager proud. " 638 00:38:30,574 --> 00:38:33,487 And it was really nice of him to say that you know, and come up to us. 639 00:38:33,611 --> 00:38:35,648 But I just didn't feel right to take a penalty. 640 00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:41,362 Between him and Bobby Robson, they decided that 641 00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:43,489 perhaps it was best that he wouldn't take one. 642 00:38:44,555 --> 00:38:45,659 I wish he had. 643 00:38:49,727 --> 00:38:52,503 The overriding feeling that you get 644 00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:56,305 from scoring a penalty in a shootout is one of relief. 645 00:38:56,367 --> 00:38:58,779 You know, "Well, it ain't gonna be my fault." 646 00:38:58,903 --> 00:39:01,474 Which is a terrible thing to say but, you know, 647 00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:05,749 we're human beings and, you know, the one thing you would never wanna do 648 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:09,451 is be the person that misses the penalty that will be shown forever more. 649 00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:48,155 You know, you don't shed tears on a football pitch if you don't care 650 00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,423 about playing for your country. 651 00:39:52,289 --> 00:39:53,597 It was incredible, really. 652 00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:57,706 If I'm sitting here now, saying to my children 653 00:39:58,262 --> 00:40:00,003 or explaining about Paul Gascoigne, 654 00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:03,170 I'd say he's probably the most exciting English player 655 00:40:03,267 --> 00:40:05,304 I've seen and certainly the best. 656 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:12,618 There was loads of tears in the dressing room. 657 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,417 I've never seen anything like it, you know, 658 00:40:14,945 --> 00:40:18,552 and we're all sitting there in tears and waiting for Sir Bobby. 659 00:40:21,552 --> 00:40:23,964 And he went, "Look here, guys, you've done me so proud.” 660 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:27,395 “You know, well go out and we'll have, we'll enjoy ourselves tonight." 661 00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:31,139 Then he was welling up and everyone, 662 00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,874 when the players, I suppose, when they seen him welling up, 663 00:40:33,964 --> 00:40:36,274 you know, everyone joined in with him. I mean, it was... 664 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:39,508 I would never have that feeling again. 665 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:43,283 You know, I have had great feelings in my career but that, 666 00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:45,587 that certain moment where it was that close. 667 00:40:45,676 --> 00:40:48,384 I mean, a penalty kick. Twelve yards away from getting to the final. 668 00:40:57,288 --> 00:41:02,033 We're on the plane and when it come to land, Gary Lineker come up to us. 669 00:41:02,326 --> 00:41:05,500 And he went, "Paul, be careful," 670 00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:10,440 And I didn't have a clue what he was on about. 671 00:41:10,835 --> 00:41:12,473 Be careful for what? You know. 672 00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:21,588 I think it lifted him from being a great footballer 673 00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:25,218 to, almost, a national treasure, a great personality. 674 00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:30,356 It was the moment that a nation cried with an English footballer. 675 00:41:31,388 --> 00:41:34,733 We want Gazza! We want Gazza. We want Gazza. 676 00:41:56,614 --> 00:42:00,027 I don't think I'll ever witness anything like that again. 677 00:42:00,117 --> 00:42:02,654 You know, when you're getting a crowd like that singing your name 678 00:42:02,753 --> 00:42:06,860 and I've had it at Wembley, when there's been 80,000, but 120,000.. 679 00:42:19,904 --> 00:42:21,941 I remember Peter Beardsley coming up to us on the bus 680 00:42:22,006 --> 00:42:25,613 and he went, "This is for you, you know? This is for you." And it was like, wow. 681 00:42:29,179 --> 00:42:31,455 It's one of them things where you just couldn't take it in, you know? 682 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,722 One was just playing for England in the World Cup. 683 00:42:33,984 --> 00:42:37,557 Er, but actually taking it all in, it was hard. 684 00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:47,105 And when I got home, my dad had organised a party back at the working men's club, 685 00:42:47,965 --> 00:42:50,844 and had a party in there. 686 00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:53,745 Which was brilliant, being back in the hometown, you know. 687 00:42:53,804 --> 00:42:55,784 And I always remember... 688 00:43:03,213 --> 00:43:05,022 There's a... 689 00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:13,027 There's a bit the next day, after the party, I... 690 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,798 I went up to the... 691 00:43:16,927 --> 00:43:19,271 Local park and it was empty. 692 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:23,107 And I just stood there myself and just thought, "This is where I come from." 693 00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:51,830 Stood there for an hour, you know. it was a touching feeling to say, 694 00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:56,071 "I come from this town and I played in the World Cup." 695 00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:01,712 There I was, years ago, just a young kid running about with a tennis ball 696 00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:03,581 and come back. 697 00:44:05,876 --> 00:44:08,755 Twenty-two heroes out there, and I was one of them. 698 00:44:23,227 --> 00:44:26,208 The tears that flowed on that summer night in Italy 699 00:44:26,263 --> 00:44:29,972 have swollen since then into a flood of national adulation. 700 00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:34,482 Paul Gascoigne is Gazza. Gazza is at the centre of Gazzamania. 701 00:44:34,538 --> 00:44:39,146 Fame and the trappings of fame, on and off the football field, are his life now. 702 00:44:46,917 --> 00:44:49,488 Do any of youse girls wanna do it in News of the World? 703 00:44:49,586 --> 00:44:52,624 You gotta come to bed with us. 704 00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:01,843 It's one of them things I don't think you could ever get used to, 705 00:45:01,899 --> 00:45:03,742 even to this day. 706 00:45:03,834 --> 00:45:08,146 Just everything was coming thick and fast and even the money. 707 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:12,517 The holidays, and taking the family to Disney World. Things I'd only dreamed of. 708 00:45:20,017 --> 00:45:23,897 But sometimes it was, like, 7:00 at night, I'm sitting outside in the summer 709 00:45:23,987 --> 00:45:25,864 having a beer or whatever and there are old ladies coming up 710 00:45:25,956 --> 00:45:28,197 and prodding us on the chest, "What are you doing'? 711 00:45:28,258 --> 00:45:30,670 "Go home. It's 7:00 at night, it's bedtime." 712 00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:34,972 Yeah, so I couldn't do anything. I couldn't move anywhere. 713 00:45:45,008 --> 00:45:47,386 It was just becoming daft. How could I handle it? 714 00:45:47,444 --> 00:45:50,357 I couldn't really handle it. I was living on my own in London. 715 00:45:53,951 --> 00:45:55,828 Love you, Gazza! 716 00:45:55,886 --> 00:45:57,422 - Love you, Gazza! - All right. 717 00:45:57,488 --> 00:45:59,092 I'm sure! 718 00:45:59,189 --> 00:46:01,135 Look, I was gonna say to you. 719 00:46:01,225 --> 00:46:05,867 You're in a position that most young men would say is a dream. 720 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:09,874 Erm, but from my perspective, 721 00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:13,471 having experienced a tiny piece of the kind of attention you're getting, 722 00:46:13,537 --> 00:46:15,778 it could turn out to be a nightmare, you know? 723 00:46:15,873 --> 00:46:19,582 Could be, but I'm trying my best not to let it turn out that way. 724 00:46:19,676 --> 00:46:22,782 The same newspapers that are building you to the skies, 725 00:46:22,846 --> 00:46:26,225 and hyping you up are also trying to give you advice. 726 00:46:26,316 --> 00:46:30,025 Say things, "Will this young man be able to handle all that attention?" 727 00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:32,226 Yeah, they're building me right up. 728 00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:34,030 It's unbelievable and I can't believe what's happening. 729 00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:36,230 Like I say, they're at the end of my road, 730 00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,864 they're outside my house with cameras, and everything. 731 00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:40,931 It's really... It's frightening, really, 732 00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:42,738 because all I wanna do is just live my own life. 733 00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:47,742 It's when I found out how bad the press can be. 734 00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:50,376 Once you're famous, people think it's great. It's not. 735 00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:52,681 There's only one way to go then and it's down, 736 00:46:52,743 --> 00:46:54,654 and the press try their hardest to put you down. 737 00:46:56,413 --> 00:47:00,259 They were writing anything. Just anything they could, and most of it was lies. 738 00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:05,256 I started drinking, which was the easy way out of it. 739 00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:08,234 It's just, you know, how can you... 740 00:47:08,292 --> 00:47:10,499 You know, it's just one of them... 741 00:47:10,594 --> 00:47:13,040 Well, how can you adjust to that? 742 00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:22,113 I did a piece in the News of the World saying it was okay for people with asthma 743 00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:24,118 to do sports, 744 00:47:24,174 --> 00:47:26,347 and it was a big spread in the News of the World, 745 00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:28,390 as long as you used this asthma thing. 746 00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:32,188 My cousin, my dads brother's son, 747 00:47:32,249 --> 00:47:34,388 he was only 12 or something like that. 748 00:47:34,451 --> 00:47:35,953 I remember him ringing us up and saying, 749 00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,465 "Uncle Paul, this thing I've just read in the News of the World. 750 00:47:38,555 --> 00:47:40,398 "I've got asthma, is it okay if I go play football?" 751 00:47:40,457 --> 00:47:42,494 And I went, "Yeah, as long as you use it properly.“ 752 00:47:42,593 --> 00:47:45,233 And he went out and I got a call 20 minutes later, he died. 753 00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:51,378 That was really hard to take. 754 00:47:51,468 --> 00:47:54,381 And then I found out he went and played football 755 00:47:54,471 --> 00:47:57,577 but he didn't take his asthma thing. It didn't make things any better. 756 00:47:57,674 --> 00:48:01,144 But I think if I hadn't have done that piece in the News of the World 757 00:48:01,211 --> 00:48:04,021 and he hadn't seen it, maybe, I think, he'd have been all right, you know? 758 00:48:05,315 --> 00:48:08,660 And then I was having sleepless nights again. 759 00:48:09,686 --> 00:48:11,188 A couple of ticks come back. 760 00:48:12,489 --> 00:48:17,404 That's the only time I started realising that the 90 minutes on the football field was me. 761 00:48:17,461 --> 00:48:21,034 I was alone and in the zone, and no one could touch us. 762 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,871 If I had problems, then I went on the pitch for 90 minutes and they went. 763 00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:28,211 But after the game finished, then they come. 764 00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:33,316 Never be left alone with your own thoughts. That can be dangerous. 765 00:49:01,571 --> 00:49:04,211 The Spurs and England footballer Paul Gascoigne 766 00:49:04,308 --> 00:49:08,313 is reported to be on the verge of joining the Italian club Lazio. 767 00:49:08,378 --> 00:49:11,825 Talks are taking place in Rome between representatives of the two clubs 768 00:49:11,915 --> 00:49:14,953 and if the deal goes through, Gascoigne's expected to become 769 00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:16,827 the richest player in the world. 770 00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:28,367 I always knew in the bottom of my heart I always wanted to play in an FA Cup final. 771 00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:33,539 All I ever wanted to do was walk up them stairs being a winner. 772 00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,015 Yeah, I really wanted to do that, you know? 773 00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:44,125 We managed to get through the FA Cup, 774 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:46,855 mainly because of Gazza, to be perfectly honest. 775 00:49:47,751 --> 00:49:52,564 He almost single-handedly, sort of, thrust us through to the semi-final. 776 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:10,011 I mean, there are various derbies around the world. 777 00:50:10,107 --> 00:50:12,553 They're all hugely significant and mean so much 778 00:50:12,609 --> 00:50:16,819 to the supporters of those clubs. It's the game that really counts, 779 00:50:16,913 --> 00:50:19,587 and in North London, it's no different 780 00:50:21,952 --> 00:50:24,990 Arsenal were unbelievably strong at that stage. 781 00:50:25,055 --> 00:50:26,227 They were running away with the league, 782 00:50:26,289 --> 00:50:27,893 everyone thought they were gonna do the double 783 00:50:27,991 --> 00:50:31,336 and we went into that game as huge underdogs. 784 00:50:35,065 --> 00:50:37,773 Paul Gascoigne, out of the keys for Tottenham 785 00:50:37,868 --> 00:50:39,711 and he's really up for it. 786 00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:45,110 Back to Gascoigne. 787 00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:48,385 One way, and then the other. 788 00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:51,720 Neatly done. 789 00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:57,024 And a late challenge brings a free kick. 790 00:50:57,487 --> 00:50:59,831 When you're actually lining up for a free kick like that, 791 00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:02,427 I'm thinking what to do with it when all of a sudden, Gary Lineker, 792 00:51:02,492 --> 00:51:05,063 he comes up and he just said, "Have a go." 793 00:51:06,196 --> 00:51:07,402 I went, "Okay," and he ran past. 794 00:51:09,332 --> 00:51:11,676 Is Gascoigne going to have a crack? He is, you know. 795 00:51:11,768 --> 00:51:15,580 What a goal! Brilliant! 796 00:51:20,777 --> 00:51:24,782 The FA Cup springs mad, magical moments. 797 00:51:25,949 --> 00:51:27,519 I think that's what makes it so special. 798 00:51:29,219 --> 00:51:33,565 To get it over the wall and into the top comer from so far out is... 799 00:51:34,791 --> 00:51:36,395 It's nearly impossible, really. 800 00:51:39,529 --> 00:51:43,272 You've probably practised that, that week, 30, 40 times, 801 00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:45,574 and maybe score one from the same situation. 802 00:51:45,669 --> 00:51:49,674 But it's when it happens in a game, it's just pure excitement. 803 00:51:52,209 --> 00:51:55,622 It's an unbelievable goal and still probably one of the best 804 00:51:55,712 --> 00:51:57,589 FA Cup goals to this day. 805 00:51:58,815 --> 00:52:00,726 It's Tottenham Hotspur's day, 806 00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:03,355 to the delight of Gary Mabbutt, 807 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:06,367 and what an inspiration this man has been to them 808 00:52:06,423 --> 00:52:08,460 with that wonderful free kick. 809 00:52:08,525 --> 00:52:10,266 They'll be back for the final. 810 00:52:12,395 --> 00:52:15,274 I'm now away to get my suit measured. Yes! 811 00:52:15,332 --> 00:52:16,834 What about your start to the game? 812 00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,972 It wasn't bad, was it? I must go. 813 00:52:33,583 --> 00:52:38,259 I think all young lads from England will dream about winning the FA Cup. 814 00:52:42,292 --> 00:52:46,297 It's something which I still dream of, to be honest, I've never won the FA Cup 815 00:52:46,396 --> 00:52:48,501 and it's such a historic trophy. 816 00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:04,017 Really, it was my first final. Missed, obviously, the World Cup final. 817 00:53:04,114 --> 00:53:07,357 In the times at Newcastle, I never got to any final So, this was my first final. 818 00:53:08,752 --> 00:53:10,857 You try and take in as much as you can 819 00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:13,264 because you never know when you'll play in another one. 820 00:53:15,091 --> 00:53:17,697 We all lining up and we're seeing Lady Diana come on the pitch 821 00:53:17,794 --> 00:53:21,241 and she came up to us and I went, "Can I have a kiss, please?" 822 00:53:21,364 --> 00:53:24,709 And she put her hand out, she got a bit embarrassed, and I kissed her hand. 823 00:53:24,768 --> 00:53:26,770 And a couple of the lads were laughing. 824 00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:33,279 It was the first time I played a match with a hard-on. It was unbelievable. 825 00:53:39,716 --> 00:53:41,753 Forest, attacking down the left. 826 00:53:42,185 --> 00:53:46,156 Gascoigne tries to turn... That's an awful challenge. 827 00:53:47,257 --> 00:53:51,330 The tackle, I've come, I've went through the ball and I've lifted my leg high. 828 00:53:53,897 --> 00:53:55,501 He didn't even book us, the ref, 829 00:53:56,132 --> 00:53:59,079 Really sometimes in hindsight I wish I'd have been sent off for that. 830 00:54:06,009 --> 00:54:09,149 Forest coming forward again, trying to find a bit of space. 831 00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:12,659 Gascoigne coming across... That's a dreadful challenge! 832 00:54:14,351 --> 00:54:16,297 And he looks to be in agony. 833 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,431 I'm off balance and I've just tried to put a massive tackle in. 834 00:54:25,462 --> 00:54:29,774 That was it, knee just went and I just went down and I knew I was out. 835 00:54:32,636 --> 00:54:35,708 Terry Venables, understandably concerned. 836 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:39,186 And Gascoigne is carried off. 837 00:54:39,309 --> 00:54:41,346 His Cup final is over. 838 00:54:41,645 --> 00:54:45,320 John Sheridan come into the physio bit at Wembley. 839 00:54:45,382 --> 00:54:47,726 He had tears in his eyes and when you see somebody 840 00:54:47,784 --> 00:54:51,493 that cares for you so much and seeing tears in his eyes, it was like, "Shit." 841 00:54:51,588 --> 00:54:55,126 "So how long am I going to be out for? Three weeks?" He went, "No." I went, "Shit." 842 00:54:55,225 --> 00:54:58,434 I went, "Three months?" He went, "Nah." I went, "Six months, then?" 843 00:54:58,495 --> 00:55:01,942 He went, "No, you're going to be out a year." I burst down crying. 844 00:55:13,943 --> 00:55:16,787 To know that you've done something really serious, 845 00:55:16,846 --> 00:55:20,191 to be in a hospital room watching your team lift the FA Cup. 846 00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:21,558 I... 847 00:55:22,752 --> 00:55:25,961 I can't begin to imagine the emotions that were going through his head. 848 00:55:29,793 --> 00:55:34,003 That was it. Once I seen Gary Mabbutt walk up the steps... 849 00:55:37,867 --> 00:55:40,939 Lifting up the trophy. That destroyed us, that, 850 00:55:41,037 --> 00:55:43,176 because that's an I wanted to do. 851 00:55:44,341 --> 00:55:45,877 If I could have done that, it's just, like, 852 00:55:45,975 --> 00:55:48,114 l wouldn’t be bothered if I played another match. 853 00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:52,422 I wouldn't have been bothered. And to miss out on that... 854 00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:55,496 It was unbelievable. 855 00:55:55,585 --> 00:55:58,759 And I went, "Could I have a sleeping tablet?" So I'd go to sleep. 856 00:55:58,822 --> 00:56:01,598 And they went, "Just wait a bit," and I didn't know what was happening. 857 00:56:01,691 --> 00:56:04,865 Then, all of a sudden, about two and a half hours after the game, 858 00:56:04,928 --> 00:56:08,569 the door smashed in. It was Gary Mabbutt with the FA Cup. 859 00:56:13,636 --> 00:56:16,913 The team come in. Some of the players were with their wives and that. 860 00:56:16,973 --> 00:56:20,182 I was like, my eyes must have been red as fuck, just crying. 861 00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:22,421 And... 862 00:56:22,512 --> 00:56:26,392 And then they went, "All right, Gaz, we gotta go back to the party." 863 00:56:26,449 --> 00:56:29,896 I was, like, to the surgeon, "Please just plaster me up and let us go to the party." 864 00:56:29,986 --> 00:56:32,660 He went, "Paul, it's either the party or your career." 865 00:56:38,461 --> 00:56:40,941 You think, "Am I going to be the player I was?" 866 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:45,035 And I just wanted to get back playing again. 867 00:56:45,101 --> 00:56:49,208 I had to. I had a big move on. Spurs were making money from us. 868 00:56:49,339 --> 00:56:53,151 I had an opportunity in playing abroad. 869 00:56:53,209 --> 00:56:55,621 And that's all I knew, football, 870 00:56:55,712 --> 00:57:00,661 I mean, two and two comes to five. No, that was all I knew, football. 871 00:57:05,021 --> 00:57:08,628 When you're in a room, when you're working on the machines and all that, 872 00:57:08,725 --> 00:57:11,899 and you're seeing the lads out in the field kicking the ball about and having fun, 873 00:57:11,995 --> 00:57:16,239 it destroys you a little bit and sometimes it felt a bit lonely. 874 00:57:16,299 --> 00:57:17,539 It wasn't too good. 875 00:57:21,738 --> 00:57:24,309 Just me and the physio, you know? Constantly training. 876 00:57:24,474 --> 00:57:27,318 Because when you're injured, you have to train twice as hard as other players 877 00:57:27,377 --> 00:57:28,822 to get back to match fitness. 878 00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:43,261 It was on the Friday and Terry Venables said, 879 00:57:43,326 --> 00:57:47,536 “Paul, you can join in with the team now, on Monday.“ And I was so excited. 880 00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:49,507 I went up to Newcastle to celebrate with the family. 881 00:57:49,566 --> 00:57:51,477 I'm training on Monday with the team. 882 00:57:51,534 --> 00:57:55,778 We're in a nightclub when a guy went past us deliberately and nudged us. 883 00:57:55,872 --> 00:57:57,545 And he went, “Are you Paul Gascoigne?" I went, "Yeah," 884 00:57:57,607 --> 00:58:00,520 and he banged us right in the chin and I fell on my kneecap. 885 00:58:02,545 --> 00:58:06,425 I went to the hospital and I said, "There's something wrong with my knee." 886 00:58:06,516 --> 00:58:09,861 You know, when you press your kneecap? I pressed my kneecap in, it wasn't there. 887 00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:11,193 I had no kneecap. 888 00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:19,201 I had to sit on the settee for three months, just with my leg solid straight. 889 00:58:19,262 --> 00:58:24,541 If I had any chance of making it again. So I had to wait another six months 890 00:58:36,145 --> 00:58:37,783 Gazza. Gazza, welcome. 891 00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:43,621 I've never seen anything like that. It was crazy. 892 00:58:55,465 --> 00:58:58,275 Nineteen bodyguards, either side of us. They couldn't stop them back 893 00:58:58,334 --> 00:59:01,747 and they were throwing scarves at you, trying to squash you. 894 00:59:01,804 --> 00:59:03,613 It was really scary. 895 00:59:06,543 --> 00:59:11,117 They're obsessed with football, full stop. lt is one football country, that. 896 00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:13,023 It's incredible. 897 00:59:13,116 --> 00:59:16,654 It was the highest paid transfer made in Italy 898 00:59:16,753 --> 00:59:18,755 and they made a massive thing of it. 899 00:59:31,701 --> 00:59:35,114 Once you're idolised by the fans, it's non-stop. 900 00:59:35,171 --> 00:59:38,880 Back in England you'd get maybe 20 or 30 watching training. 901 00:59:38,942 --> 00:59:41,946 In Italy, they surrounded the pitch. Surrounded. 902 00:59:42,011 --> 00:59:44,753 You couldn't do anything about it. And if you did, 903 00:59:44,814 --> 00:59:47,727 if the team played bad, they would shake the fence. Go off it. 904 00:59:47,784 --> 00:59:50,663 They'd really go off it. And some of the players I could see, 905 00:59:50,753 --> 00:59:53,632 they all had good wages but they all had little banger cars. 906 00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:56,000 And I'm like, “Why you got little cars like that?" 907 00:59:56,059 --> 00:59:58,471 Because I realised when you played bad, you'd drive past them 908 00:59:58,528 --> 01:00:00,804 and they'd smash, and bang, and kick your car and everything. 909 01:00:01,331 --> 01:00:03,368 Yeah, it's like that. It's intense, 910 01:00:23,686 --> 01:00:26,098 The players put the panics up us. They're going, "Shit, Paul, 911 01:00:26,189 --> 01:00:28,601 "if I lose this, I won't be able to go out for weeks." 912 01:00:28,658 --> 01:00:30,035 That's what it was like. 913 01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:33,540 Come to the kick-off and it was like, then I got nervous. 914 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:36,941 It was the first time really, in a game, when I got nervous. “Got to win this game." 915 01:00:43,506 --> 01:00:46,783 And then, obviously, the game kicked off and we're getting beat one-nil. 916 01:00:46,876 --> 01:00:49,652 Then we got, obviously, the free kick. 917 01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:51,817 And I went over to take the free kick and Beppe Signori says, 918 01:00:51,948 --> 01:00:55,157 "No, you get in the box." I went, "No, I don't score many goals with my head." 919 01:00:55,218 --> 01:00:58,165 I said, "You get in the box." And he went, "Well, I'm only fucking five foot." 920 01:00:58,221 --> 01:01:00,292 So I was like, "Okay, I'll go in the box." 921 01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:02,802 And by the time I got in the box, he was ready to take it. 922 01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:19,415 It was incredible. It was like, wow. You think you just won the war. 923 01:01:20,777 --> 01:01:24,623 I could have lived on that goal for a few years over there. It was brilliant. 924 01:01:24,714 --> 01:01:28,821 I scored the first goal in a Roma derby, 105,000 people there. 925 01:01:28,885 --> 01:01:32,765 It was a phenomenal feeling. Really was, it was incredible. 926 01:01:33,756 --> 01:01:36,635 - Gazza! - I love you. You are my God. 927 01:01:36,693 --> 01:01:38,229 - You are my God. - Thank you. 928 01:01:38,294 --> 01:01:41,503 You are my God. 929 01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:43,544 "You are my God." 930 01:01:47,303 --> 01:01:49,681 I played against Maradona once in Seville. 931 01:01:50,473 --> 01:01:53,943 And I turned up for the game. I went, "Diego. 932 01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:56,456 I said, "I can't even really play, but I'm a bit drunk." 933 01:01:56,546 --> 01:01:57,786 He went, "Gazza, so am I." 934 01:01:57,847 --> 01:02:00,191 It was funny as fuck. 935 01:02:00,249 --> 01:02:02,627 We started the game and I got the ball and I'd beat five players 936 01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:04,096 and smashed it into the bottom corner. 937 01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:15,108 I always remember afterwards, I went, “Do the press conference, please' 938 01:02:15,164 --> 01:02:17,667 "I'm in trouble." And he went down, "So am I." 939 01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:20,544 And I think we both got fined about 40,000 each. 940 01:02:28,611 --> 01:02:32,582 In Italy, we trained twice a day. It was phenomenal. So hot. 941 01:02:32,648 --> 01:02:35,458 Their warm-up was like our training session in England. 942 01:02:35,551 --> 01:02:38,760 For instance, if you get beat one-nil, 943 01:02:38,821 --> 01:02:42,997 the president would come in and say, “It was crap today. 944 01:02:43,059 --> 01:02:46,040 "I'm sorry, but you won't be going home tonight after the game. 945 01:02:46,095 --> 01:02:48,632 “You'll be getting straight on the bus and shooting off for three days.“ 946 01:02:48,731 --> 01:02:51,337 And he'd take you and he'd have a training camp and run you. 947 01:02:52,935 --> 01:02:55,108 We played this little five-a-side game 948 01:02:55,171 --> 01:02:57,981 and I let the guy go past us and he scored. 949 01:02:58,074 --> 01:03:00,213 And Dino Zoff went mad on a couple of players and I went, "Hold on. 950 01:03:00,309 --> 01:03:03,256 "Are we playing serious here?" I said, "You want to play serious?" 951 01:03:03,346 --> 01:03:04,723 I went, "Okay, then." 952 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:07,523 And Nesta, he was a young kid and the ball come 953 01:03:07,583 --> 01:03:10,564 and I went for a crunching tackle and I missed and I hit his calf. 954 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:14,625 My leg was on the ground and when he picked up my calf to have a look at it, 955 01:03:14,690 --> 01:03:17,671 the calf and my foot and my ankle stayed on the ground 956 01:03:17,727 --> 01:03:19,502 and my calf came forward about an inch. 957 01:03:22,431 --> 01:03:25,344 The worst thing is, they didn't have any stretcher. 958 01:03:25,434 --> 01:03:27,573 So they had to get four guys carrying us. 959 01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:29,980 So when one was walking forwards, the other one was waiting, 960 01:03:30,072 --> 01:03:32,074 so my leg just felt like it was pulling. 961 01:03:34,143 --> 01:03:35,213 I was out for a year. 962 01:03:38,314 --> 01:03:41,352 I don't think there's any question that the injuries that Gazza sustained 963 01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:45,797 impacted his life both on the pitch and off the pitch. 964 01:03:45,855 --> 01:03:49,598 And the more time you spend injured, the more time there is to get 965 01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:53,801 depressed about matters and perhaps to turn to drink or drugs 966 01:03:53,863 --> 01:03:57,174 or whatever it is that does it for you in those circumstances. 967 01:03:57,900 --> 01:03:59,902 Especially his personality, 968 01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:02,882 with his affection for the game and his love of playing, 969 01:04:02,939 --> 01:04:05,715 I think it had a real negative effect on him. 970 01:04:08,311 --> 01:04:10,951 So I missed about two years, really, in playing out there, 971 01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:14,358 so I never got the chance to really, before I moved on to Rangers, 972 01:04:14,417 --> 01:04:17,489 to really show the fans what I really could do, you know? 973 01:04:40,877 --> 01:04:44,256 There's only one Paul Gascoigne. 974 01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:49,228 One Paul Gascoigne. There's only one Paul Gascoigne. 975 01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:54,030 That time at Rangers was phenomenal. Really, really unbelievable. 976 01:05:17,613 --> 01:05:20,560 Because I had the press saying, "He won't do it up here. 977 01:05:20,616 --> 01:05:24,496 "He won't achieve anything up here. He wouldn't this and that." 978 01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:39,241 Unfortunately for the press, we won the league, won the cup, 979 01:05:39,302 --> 01:05:42,146 won the other cup. So I didn't do too bad that year. 980 01:05:56,686 --> 01:05:58,632 - The Celtic's crap... - Rangers are the best. 981 01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:01,396 Rangers are the crappest. 982 01:06:01,824 --> 01:06:06,102 It's more hatred up there, its horrific. You got the Protestants against the Catholics. 983 01:06:06,195 --> 01:06:08,232 I've never witnessed anything like that. 984 01:06:08,731 --> 01:06:14,238 The first match we had was, like, a friendly against Steaua Bucharest 985 01:06:14,303 --> 01:06:17,512 and I just remember the fans singing, doing The Sash, 986 01:06:17,606 --> 01:06:19,586 and one of the players said to us, 987 01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:22,588 "This is The Sash, this what it sort of means." 988 01:06:22,645 --> 01:06:23,851 I didn't really take any notice 989 01:06:23,946 --> 01:06:26,586 and I just remember scoring and I just thought it was a thing to the... 990 01:06:27,516 --> 01:06:29,359 The fans. 991 01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:37,194 And then the next day when I pick up the paper, 992 01:06:37,259 --> 01:06:41,901 and the front page, "Gazza does The Sash," and then when I read what it was all about, 993 01:06:41,964 --> 01:06:43,307 it was like, "My God." 994 01:06:46,102 --> 01:06:48,776 The Protestants are allowed to walk down this Catholic road 995 01:06:48,871 --> 01:06:51,010 and it's been going on for years and there always seems to be 996 01:06:51,107 --> 01:06:53,109 people killed every year doing it. 997 01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:56,350 And there's always riots and bombs and everything 998 01:06:56,412 --> 01:06:58,790 and I never really took any notice of anything. 999 01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:07,193 And then I was just opening the mail and I looked at it and it went, 1000 01:07:07,256 --> 01:07:11,398 "Hi, my name's such and such, I'm from the IRA 1001 01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:13,701 "and I'm gonna kill you." Yeah. 1002 01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:20,678 It had his name, his address, his two mobile numbers. 1003 01:07:20,736 --> 01:07:22,682 And I went, "Well, this guy is serious." 1004 01:07:22,738 --> 01:07:26,880 So I showed Walter Smith and he went, "Oof, better get the police." 1005 01:07:28,144 --> 01:07:30,317 So two police come, undercover, 1006 01:07:30,379 --> 01:07:32,757 and they went, "Give us a look at that. We'll go and see him for you.“ 1007 01:07:32,815 --> 01:07:35,056 And they flew over. So I'm waiting for their return. 1008 01:07:35,151 --> 01:07:37,859 I'm shitting a brick I'm going, “Fucking hell, what am I gonna do?" 1009 01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:42,126 I waited three days and then they come to my house. 1010 01:07:42,224 --> 01:07:45,865 And they went, "Right, we've seen the guy. He is serious. He is gonna kill you." 1011 01:07:45,928 --> 01:07:48,499 Fucking hell. So I went, "What are you gonna do about it?" 1012 01:07:48,564 --> 01:07:52,171 He went, “Well, we can't do anything until he actually flies over 1013 01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:54,714 "and we're not gonna sit and wait at the airport, Paul, 1014 01:07:54,770 --> 01:07:57,717 "because it might take months.“ So I'm like, "Oof." 1015 01:07:57,773 --> 01:08:01,084 And he went, "Here's a thing." And it was like a little round thing, 1016 01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:03,521 about that big and I went, "Well, what's that?" He says, “Open." 1017 01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:06,253 Pulled it like that, and he went, “That's to look under your car for bombs." 1018 01:08:06,348 --> 01:08:09,158 So I'm like, "Shit,“ and then he went, "Can you ring up your family 1019 01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:11,194 "and tell them all to board the house up." 1020 01:08:11,954 --> 01:08:13,695 Fucking beam the windows up and all, 1021 01:08:13,789 --> 01:08:15,860 in case they shoot through the windows and all that. 1022 01:08:19,895 --> 01:08:22,705 For the first four or five games, I panicked. 1023 01:08:22,865 --> 01:08:24,867 You just wonder if someone's in the crowd. 1024 01:08:26,168 --> 01:08:29,479 You know, he can be anywhere. He doesn't have to be on a football pitch. 1025 01:08:29,538 --> 01:08:31,575 He can be hanging outside your house. 1026 01:08:33,809 --> 01:08:35,914 It lasted for six months. 1027 01:08:36,712 --> 01:08:39,124 And then eventually I got the letter from this guy 1028 01:08:39,181 --> 01:08:41,354 and he went, "Right, 1029 01:08:41,417 --> 01:08:46,264 "you haven't done it for a while. If you honestly do that again, I will kill you." 1030 01:08:46,355 --> 01:08:48,164 And then it was okay. Now I could relax. 1031 01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:06,548 England are assured of a really tough draw already. 1032 01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:09,385 Now, would this be England in with Scotland? 1033 01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:12,354 It is. England against Scotland. 1034 01:09:13,649 --> 01:09:15,686 Scotland is not an international team. 1035 01:09:15,784 --> 01:09:19,197 Scotland. It's a mix of sheep shaggers. 1036 01:09:19,255 --> 01:09:22,259 Scotland have got a better international record. 1037 01:09:22,324 --> 01:09:24,304 We've qualified for five World Cups. 1038 01:09:24,426 --> 01:09:28,135 All right? That's what we've done. And what have you done? 1039 01:09:28,264 --> 01:09:30,676 You've only played five... You've only played five games. 1040 01:09:36,672 --> 01:09:40,313 No! Not my pants. 1041 01:09:40,376 --> 01:09:43,755 The flak I took off of players three months prior to the tournament was horrendous. 1042 01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:46,258 "We're gonna whop you one. Stick it right up you." 1043 01:09:46,348 --> 01:09:49,022 I was getting that every single day. And I'm saying, "We'll see." 1044 01:09:49,084 --> 01:09:52,190 Then I says, "You've gotta remember I know how seven of youse play." 1045 01:10:01,597 --> 01:10:04,077 We had a little bit of a break, the season finished with a break 1046 01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:05,635 before the championships. 1047 01:10:05,701 --> 01:10:07,703 We went to Hong Kong. 1048 01:10:07,770 --> 01:10:10,376 It was just like... I think it was like bonding. 1049 01:10:10,472 --> 01:10:14,716 We did a little bit of training. It was a bit relaxing for a few days. 1050 01:10:14,777 --> 01:10:17,621 There was my birthday as well, so it was like, okay. 1051 01:10:17,713 --> 01:10:20,250 And then Terry Venables says, "Look, you go out for the night. 1052 01:10:21,517 --> 01:10:25,090 "Make sure you're back before 12:00." And then we went out. 1053 01:10:32,428 --> 01:10:35,272 We went to this club. It was like a theme bar thing. 1054 01:10:35,965 --> 01:10:39,503 And just looked over to see what everyone was doing. 1055 01:10:39,635 --> 01:10:41,080 And it was like a dentist chair thing. 1056 01:10:41,737 --> 01:10:44,377 And you sat on it and then the guy come behind you, a couple of guys, 1057 01:10:44,473 --> 01:10:47,386 and he pressed the pedal and it went back. 1058 01:10:47,476 --> 01:10:51,822 And obviously, if you open your mouth, they pour cocktails down it. 1059 01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:56,356 I give it a go. I didn't get any fillings done. 1060 01:10:56,418 --> 01:10:59,888 But I got a few cocktails down my neck and then Sol went, 1061 01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:02,094 and Teddy Sheringham went, Steve McManaman, everyone. 1062 01:11:02,191 --> 01:11:04,262 There were about six who had a go, you know. 1063 01:11:04,326 --> 01:11:07,500 The press got a hold of it. Someone had took a photo on their mobile phone, 1064 01:11:07,796 --> 01:11:09,503 and then obviously sold the photo. 1065 01:11:10,332 --> 01:11:13,336 That was unbelievable what the press wrote, for one night out. 1066 01:11:13,435 --> 01:11:15,244 And I get hammered for it. 1067 01:11:15,904 --> 01:11:17,679 The headlines was like, "Kick him out of the tournament," 1068 01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:20,016 you know, "He's not right. Not ready." 1069 01:11:20,109 --> 01:11:24,182 Well, I just had a full season winning medals and trophies at Glasgow Rangers. 1070 01:11:24,246 --> 01:11:27,386 All I had to do was just wait till I start playing football again. 1071 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:30,094 Back on the football pitch. Where I felt safe. 1072 01:11:38,627 --> 01:11:44,236 Was in the Euro. At Wembley. England against Scotland. 1073 01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:54,413 And I took my wife to the game. Which, normally, we don't do often. 1074 01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:57,184 My wife was pregnant of our first child 1075 01:11:57,246 --> 01:12:00,420 and she was pregnant of something like six months. 1076 01:12:01,150 --> 01:12:03,630 And, um, and... 1077 01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:07,796 She was so upset with me because... 1078 01:12:07,856 --> 01:12:11,497 Because I made her walk so much 1079 01:12:11,593 --> 01:12:13,266 to get into Wembley. 1080 01:12:15,631 --> 01:12:19,306 But I think I couldn't have a... 1081 01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:22,475 A better game of football. 1082 01:12:33,449 --> 01:12:35,451 And Paul, in that match, was magnificent, 1083 01:12:35,818 --> 01:12:39,356 and he scored one of the goals that belongs to... 1084 01:12:39,421 --> 01:12:42,868 To his fantastic history. 1085 01:12:46,528 --> 01:12:49,168 Forward to Paul Gascoigne, who made a brilliant run. 1086 01:12:49,264 --> 01:12:51,141 And that's superb! 1087 01:12:51,233 --> 01:12:52,712 What a goal! 1088 01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:58,418 I still think to this day it's the most iconic England goal of all time. 1089 01:13:02,911 --> 01:13:07,155 I think his vision, his creativity, the composure, the skill. 1090 01:13:13,088 --> 01:13:15,728 Finishing it the way he did and then the celebration as well, 1091 01:13:15,824 --> 01:13:19,533 I think it's all rolled into a fantastic goal. 1092 01:13:23,499 --> 01:13:27,641 Before the game, I said to the guys, I went, "Listen, whoever scores, 1093 01:13:27,703 --> 01:13:30,377 "get on your back and pretend you're doing the dentist chair. 1094 01:13:30,472 --> 01:13:33,112 "Someone get the Lucozade bottles and squeeze it in you." 1095 01:13:33,175 --> 01:13:36,156 You know, just to wind up the press, have a go back at them and that. 1096 01:13:40,115 --> 01:13:43,187 It was ironic that I scored it. So it was perfect. 1097 01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:01,347 I think it was a case of Paul just proving them wrong, which was a doddle. 1098 01:14:05,507 --> 01:14:08,010 It was just unfortunate that it was Lucozade and not gin. 1099 01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:10,954 Because I would have played better then. 1100 01:14:49,551 --> 01:14:52,498 Who said to me that I never had a laugh when I was drinking? 1101 01:14:54,089 --> 01:14:56,899 I've had great times when I've been drinking with the guys. 1102 01:14:56,992 --> 01:14:59,529 Having a game of dominos and pool and stuff like that. 1103 01:14:59,628 --> 01:15:02,700 It was when sometimes I sit alone and I have a drink, 1104 01:15:02,764 --> 01:15:05,370 and then, that was when I can be dark and depressing. 1105 01:15:09,137 --> 01:15:13,517 I just had bad little blips where I'm not Paul any more. 1106 01:15:13,575 --> 01:15:16,579 I'm not Gazza. I'm not Paul Gascoigne. I'm just, like... 1107 01:15:16,645 --> 01:15:18,556 I'm just alone. 1108 01:15:20,415 --> 01:15:22,053 Which I sometimes don't like. 1109 01:15:26,455 --> 01:15:28,992 I have been close to death twice, I must admit. 1110 01:15:29,725 --> 01:15:34,265 But I managed to pull through and it's an illness I have and... 1111 01:15:34,329 --> 01:15:36,138 I've probably got it for the rest of my life. 1112 01:15:38,734 --> 01:15:41,271 It's whether I accept it or not. 1113 01:15:41,336 --> 01:15:45,011 Sometimes I find it hard and sometimes I find it really easy. 1114 01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:47,280 I know how to stay sober and I know how to relapse. 1115 01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:49,780 I'm good at both, really. 1116 01:15:58,687 --> 01:16:01,497 Good evening. The News of the World phone hacking scandal 1117 01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:04,833 started as one bad apple, a rogue journalist or maybe two, 1118 01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:08,466 who'd taken their supposed investigations a little too far. 1119 01:16:09,631 --> 01:16:11,440 Today, the dam broke. 1120 01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:19,615 A few years ago and something happened with my phone a lot. 1121 01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:23,349 I remember calling my dad up and we'll get cut off. 1122 01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:25,449 And my dad says there's something wrong with his phone. 1123 01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:28,153 "Well, there's something up," and I said, "I wonder if I'm getting tapped." 1124 01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,798 Then I remember speaking to my mum once, and it come out in the papers. 1125 01:16:35,857 --> 01:16:37,427 And so I went to my mum saying, 1126 01:16:37,492 --> 01:16:39,597 "What the fuck are you doing? Why are you speaking to the papers? 1127 01:16:39,661 --> 01:16:42,835 "Mum, you're the only one I've told, I've not talked to anybody." 1128 01:16:42,898 --> 01:16:45,640 And she got upset and she went, "I haven't." I says, "You have." 1129 01:16:45,701 --> 01:16:49,547 I says, "Mum you are the only I've just said it to.” I didn't speak to her for a week. 1130 01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:54,351 And then I spoke to my dad and then that come out in the papers. 1131 01:16:54,409 --> 01:16:56,821 So I went off... Well, I didn't go off with my dad. 1132 01:16:56,912 --> 01:16:58,323 I just never went off on him. 1133 01:16:58,513 --> 01:17:01,926 I just went, "Dad, have you spoke to the papers? Are you selling a story on us?" 1134 01:17:02,551 --> 01:17:05,259 And it was embarrassing for me to do that and then I started drinking. 1135 01:17:05,354 --> 01:17:09,200 Drinking too much. And then, I started getting paranoid. 1136 01:17:11,927 --> 01:17:14,134 I didn't speak to my family for a few months. 1137 01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:18,136 I didn't speak to anybody. I just started drinking. 1138 01:17:19,534 --> 01:17:21,946 And that's the time when I took coke, 1139 01:17:22,037 --> 01:17:24,881 and this was about 11 years ago and I was doing that. 1140 01:17:25,340 --> 01:17:28,082 And then I went to the spy shop and I bought gadgets. 1141 01:17:28,176 --> 01:17:29,416 A lot of money's worth. 1142 01:17:29,511 --> 01:17:32,117 So I kept on ringing my family and then I started speaking to the family 1143 01:17:32,214 --> 01:17:33,659 and I says, "My phone is getting hacked." 1144 01:17:33,749 --> 01:17:35,251 “Someone's listening to my conversations," 1145 01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:38,160 and my family went, “There's something wrong with you. You're paranoid." 1146 01:17:41,556 --> 01:17:43,661 What I started doing was texting myself. 1147 01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:49,470 So I'd text myself and say, "Listen, you C-U-N-T. 1148 01:17:49,564 --> 01:17:51,771 "I know what you're doing, you bastard. 1149 01:17:51,867 --> 01:17:53,574 "I'm gonna get the police on you." 1150 01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:56,115 And then all of a sudden I'd make a call and it'd be free. 1151 01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:59,209 And then a couple of weeks later it would start again. 1152 01:18:00,475 --> 01:18:03,217 I stayed indoors. Went to a hotel. Got out of the house because 1153 01:18:03,311 --> 01:18:05,382 I thought my house phone was getting hacked. I went into a hotel. 1154 01:18:07,115 --> 01:18:10,562 I started drinking in the hotel for five weeks or six weeks. 1155 01:18:11,653 --> 01:18:14,998 My family come to me then. They seen the way I was, the state I was in. 1156 01:18:15,057 --> 01:18:17,298 They wouldn't come. They were saying, "You drink too much" 1157 01:18:17,426 --> 01:18:19,929 And the family weren't answering the fucking door to us. 1158 01:18:20,028 --> 01:18:22,872 They were shutting the curtains, in case I turned up. 1159 01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:31,074 Then I got sectioned, my sister sectioned us. "He's crazy. The guy's went crazy." 1160 01:18:40,115 --> 01:18:43,028 And, to be fair, I think she saved my life. 1161 01:18:44,419 --> 01:18:48,094 And then I rang Scotland Yard police. I went, "This is my number. 1162 01:18:48,190 --> 01:18:51,899 "Listen to every phone call I make for the next six month." 1163 01:18:51,993 --> 01:18:53,597 And then bang, got 'em. 1164 01:18:53,662 --> 01:18:57,269 You know, to get found that I was right, it was a great feeling. 1165 01:18:57,332 --> 01:18:59,107 You know, it was unbelie... 1166 01:18:59,167 --> 01:19:03,343 I don't think I deserved to go through that. And nobody does. Nobody. 1167 01:19:03,405 --> 01:19:06,875 I mean, look at the damage it did to Princess Diana. Where is she now? 1168 01:19:06,942 --> 01:19:10,116 I didn't want the damages. I didn't want a payment from them. 1169 01:19:10,178 --> 01:19:15,628 I just wanted to go to court and tell the judge exactly how much they've damaged me. 1170 01:19:33,368 --> 01:19:38,681 There's no question that Gazza is one of the most-loved people in our country. 1171 01:19:40,142 --> 01:19:42,850 Yes, he's made his mistakes, but who doesn't? 1172 01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:49,686 I think what made him so special 1173 01:19:49,785 --> 01:19:52,698 was the lack of fear in his game. 1174 01:19:53,889 --> 01:19:57,302 That he would try anything, he would never be scared 1175 01:19:58,460 --> 01:20:00,337 that something would go wrong. 1176 01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:08,570 And probably more than anything else, the love of showing off 1177 01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:11,947 the abilities that he had and I think that's what lifts him apart. 1178 01:20:16,011 --> 01:20:18,321 In terms of overall, all-round player, 1179 01:20:18,413 --> 01:20:22,520 then I think none of them can compare to Paul Gascoigne. 1180 01:20:25,220 --> 01:20:28,599 I trained with him a few times when I was young and playing for Everton 1181 01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:30,830 and that was a great honour for me. 1182 01:20:32,327 --> 01:20:35,433 You could see the talent was incredible, 1183 01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,568 and it was great to watch up close 1184 01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:41,273 and try and learn from the greatest player that England have had. 1185 01:20:46,341 --> 01:20:49,288 There was the one time at the... He come in the dressing room 1186 01:20:49,344 --> 01:20:51,824 when we were in there, the youth team, 1187 01:20:51,913 --> 01:20:56,692 and he asked if any of the players were going out later on that night. 1188 01:20:56,785 --> 01:21:00,597 So I was the only one who said I was. 1189 01:21:00,655 --> 01:21:04,296 So he gave me £40 to go out. 1190 01:21:06,628 --> 01:21:09,040 Again, it shows his character. What he is. 1191 01:21:09,097 --> 01:21:12,977 And I don't think there's any other player in the Everton dressing room at the time 1192 01:21:13,068 --> 01:21:17,073 who would've come in and even spoke to us as a group of young players. 1193 01:21:19,341 --> 01:21:21,321 I'll have to give him that £40 back. 1194 01:21:31,419 --> 01:21:35,060 He was what he was as a player. He is what he is as a man. 1195 01:21:36,258 --> 01:21:37,999 200 miles per hour, 1196 01:21:39,194 --> 01:21:42,607 and when you go so fast, it's dangerous. 1197 01:21:42,931 --> 01:21:45,912 Obviously, his career could be even better 1198 01:21:45,967 --> 01:21:48,379 if he was supported in a different way. 1199 01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:50,950 The clubs, they are much more ready 1200 01:21:51,006 --> 01:21:53,987 to support players and to bring players in the right direction. 1201 01:21:54,109 --> 01:21:58,353 But, in the end of the day, I like always to think 1202 01:21:58,580 --> 01:22:01,857 that he enjoyed 1203 01:22:02,617 --> 01:22:05,427 every moment of his career. 1204 01:22:05,487 --> 01:22:08,900 So, I don't know, if it was better to be even a better player 1205 01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:12,836 but don't enjoy so much or to be what he was as a player 1206 01:22:12,894 --> 01:22:16,899 but enjoy career as much as you do. 1207 01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:25,911 I loved the buzz of going out and hearing the roar 1208 01:22:25,974 --> 01:22:28,079 and they've singing your name, you know? 1209 01:22:28,143 --> 01:22:30,020 Give them a goal in the top corner 1210 01:22:30,612 --> 01:22:34,059 and you get the lads jumping around you, and they're buzzing and shaking your hand 1211 01:22:34,182 --> 01:22:38,255 and It's just one big fairy tale which eventually comes to an end. 1212 01:22:46,494 --> 01:22:49,941 Me and my life, I would probably like to be remembered 1213 01:22:50,765 --> 01:22:55,441 for being the Paul Gascoigne that people have met throughout my life. 1214 01:22:55,503 --> 01:22:58,143 I'd like to think the people around us, I'd made them proud, 1215 01:22:58,206 --> 01:23:02,313 made myself proud, and everybody else that was involved with my life, proud. 1216 01:23:02,377 --> 01:23:04,186 My mum and dad, especially. 1217 01:23:07,115 --> 01:23:08,116 Yes. 1218 01:23:13,788 --> 01:23:16,928 - Thank you. - Cheers. 111608

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