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There's only one Paul Gascoigne.
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One Paul Gascoigne.
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.
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Paul Gascoigne is the special one.
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He's made a brilliant run.
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Paul Gascoigne.
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He was always
someone who I looked up to,
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for the way he played football and, um,
and how good he was.
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I still think to this day he was
the greatest England player.
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Gascoigne.
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He leaves two for dead.
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Players in the middle... So close again.
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Part of his genius,
part of his magnificence,
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is the fact that he is so vulnerable.
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Without that vulnerable side,
without that carefree side,
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without all the things
that come with Gazza,
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I don't think Paul Gascoigne
would have been the player that he was.
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Is Gascoigne
going to have a crack?
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He is, you know! What a play! Brilliant!
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He's the best in the world.
Honestly, the best in the world.
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I remember Walter Smith
coming in from training once,
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and he grabbed us by the neck
and he wanted a word with us,
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and he was fucking serious.
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And he went, "I've just been to see
a psychiatrist about you,"
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he says, "And there's nothing
I can do about it.
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"Just leave you, you're a genius.
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"Now get the fuck out of my sight."
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That was hilarious,
you know, I went, “Wow."
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I was born in Gateshead.
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I loved my childhood, you know,
even though we didn't have much as a family.
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My mum worked really hard.
She had three or four jobs.
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That's the way things were then, you know?
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A lot of people lived
for the weekends, like, on a Saturday.
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The atmosphere around Newcastle
when it's matchday is incredible.
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You know, everyone's got a buzz,
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because when Newcastle win,
it makes the weekend for everybody up there.
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I mean, where I lived,
it must have been about eight miles away,
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and you could hear even
the Gallowgate End singing, you know?
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And also, when you hear the crowd,
I'll get my ball out in the street
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and, as if I was playing there.
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We used to play in the sheet,
where we ail had the gates at the house.
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We would, like, say,
"That one's my goal, that gate, "
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and we used to use a tennis balk.
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And I loved it.
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All the kids would be doing other things,
I would just be with this tennis ball non-stop.
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I remember watching
a match once where Johann Cruyff
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did a turn and I was like, "Wow."
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And I just tried 10 remember how he did it
and went out and practised with a tennis ball.
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When I was seven, it was my birthday
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and my dad bought us
my first leather football.
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And this thing never left my foot.
I took it to the park,
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I took it to the school.
I hid it so the teachers couldn't see it.
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Then after school I'd kick it about
with the guys.
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And then I remember one day
I wanted to play football and
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it was 7:00 at night and I'm in my room
and I've got this ball.
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So I climbed out the back window
and down the drainpipe
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and just kept on kicking it in the back garden.
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And I just loved it.
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From seven to 14 was Redheugh Boys Club
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every night, you know,
this is every night for years.
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And I absolutely loved it because
we'd go there, train, for, like,
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40 minutes, or whatever, and then we got to
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play on the Saturday or the Sunday
for the boys club and go away with them,
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and just mixing with other guys
who were decent footballers, you know?
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I just loved entertaining.
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You know, there's no better feeling than just
trying to putting a smile on someone's face.
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When I scored, I remember all the parents
cheering and all that, you know?
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And that was a great feeling.
I've got the winner,
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so I thought, well, you know,
how good it would be to do that
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in front of, like, the Gallowgate End,
in St James' Park.
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Growing up, Keith, who was my best mate,
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I used to be at his an the time.
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His mum, Maureen, was a lovely woman.
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His dad, Harry, was sound, you know,
he always watched Keith play
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and he used to have a car and he used to
take you to the matches and that.
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I just felt like I had two families at that age.
You know, I was fortunate.
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And me and him used to go
to Redheugh Boys Club,
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and his little brother, Steven.
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One day, his mum says,
"Look, Keith, take Steven."
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And he was eight,
and you know how brothers are
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and he went,
“No, I'm not going if Steven's going."
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And she went, "Paul, will you take Steven?"
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I went, "Yeah, I'll look after him."
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But I was only 10.
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I was only 10.
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So I'm taking Steven. Must have been
about 300 yards up the road, 200 yards.
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And we went in the shop and
I said, "Quick, let's run,“
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and then we run out of the shop
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and he was ahead of me by about a yard
and a car hit him.
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It was horrific. He must have went
about 30 yards in the air,
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about six foot off the air
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and just stayed that level
and shoes come off, he was hit that hard.
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I ran down the street,
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knelt down on my knees,
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and put him on my lap,
and I was just seeing his lips moving a bit,
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and I want to talk, so I'm, like,
"Come on, Steven, you all right?"
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And I seen his lips moving,
not knowing that was his last movement.
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And I was stuck with this and I...
He passed away.
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He didn't move, obviously,
and I was just, like, screaming.
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"Help, Help," and this guy
wouldn't get out of the car.
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And then I just seen
his mum coming, Maureen,
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she come running over and I was like...
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You know, I think that was my first funeral,
and it wasn't, wasn't nice.
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I was only young and I didn't
I didn't know how to take it.
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I remember Keith
coming upstairs and he went,
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"Come on Paul. It's okay.
Give him a cuddle,"
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and then pulling, lifting him out of the coffin,
and kissing him and saying sorry.
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He got cremated,
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and afterwards, like, Keith says,
"Come and stay with me for a while."
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And I stayed in the room where the coffin was
for three days
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and that wasn't too good.
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You know, I just, I didn't even sleep.
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Just wide awake. Just, you know,
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keep looking all the time, thinking,
"That's where the coffin was."
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And then after a few days,
I went back home, you know?
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But she was affected for a long time,
Maureen, I know that.
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You know, I remember her getting tablets
to make her sleep.
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She couldn't sleep, you know.
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I don't blame her. Losing her son.
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Obviously Harry had to stay strong
because he was obviously the father.
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But then sadly both of them
passed away, you know, with cancer.
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Which I found out,
which was quite upsetting.
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So I never really got to buy her
that kettle I owed her,
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because I blew her kettle up.
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When I put the kettle on
there was no water in.
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So she always remembered,
"You owe me a kettle."
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I remember afterwards,
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I started developing twitches like...
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Making stupid noises
and I couldn't get rid of flashing like that.
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And then my mum took us to a psychiatrist
and he wanted to play with sand.
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And I just went, "Mum, don't take us
back there any more.“ And she didn't.
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Um, so I don't think I started
psychiatrists early.
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But we used to laugh about it, my mum,
and my brothers and my sisters.
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I wouldn't do it and then all of a sudden, like,
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my sister would come by
and she went "Paul..."
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And do that
and that would set us off again.
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“Mum, she's doing it again."
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All the time I was playing when I was 14,
I was just waiting for Newcastle, really.
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Fortunate for me, it happened, you know.
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But I had to put in the work as well.
Ii wasn't easy.
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Them days, we had to get in early.
Put the kit out for the professionals.
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If they wanted a cup of tea, make the tea.
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Then we'd have to clean the balls.
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At that time, the manager was Arthur Cox.
Tough cookie.
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He used to put the team sheet
up on the Friday,
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who was playing on the Saturday.
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And I touched the sheet.
And I went, "Look, it's a certain..."
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I think it was Neil McDonald.
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Because he was a good player
and he was young, and that.
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And I went, "Neil's playing,"
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and I touched the sheet,
and he nearly took my ear off.
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He smacked us right across the ear.
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And he went, "Don't touch that f-ing sheet
until you're on it."
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So that's what it meant to be
a professional footballer
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and I thought, "Shit, I'm in trouble."
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Yeah, and I was panicking.
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So I thought, I'll make him
a cup of tea and that.
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Polished the cup and made it perfect for him,
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and then I took it in with my hands
around the rim.
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Went to give it to him
and he took my head off.
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You know.
“Don't f-ing touch the top of a cup
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“where I've got to drink from' my son."
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And he'd just put his feet up
and lie back in his chair.
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So I had to go make him another one
and I made sure it was all done perfect,
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and, you know, I made sure
I never touched that sheet again.
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What are we doing? Are we standing out here
or are we going inside, or what?
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- Going in, I think.
- Haven't been in, yet
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I was just in awe of the man,
with England in 1966.
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And he comes to the club
and I wasn't really in the youth team.
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I was sub in that.
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I wasn't really getting that much of a game.
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You know, after I finished training,
go home and had a light bottle of pop,
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fish and chips, and a bag of Minstrels.
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And he pulled us aside and he went,
"Can I have a word with you?“
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I was, like, "Oof."
I was shaking a bit and I went, "Yeah."
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And he went, "Yeah, you're a good player."
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I went, "Yeah, I am."
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He says, "How long have you
got left on your contract?“
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I went...
I said, "Yeah, I've got a couple of years."
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And he went,
“No, you've two weeks, you fat bastard.
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“You better start losing weight."
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You know, I would like to think
it was puppy fat at 17.
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Sixteen and a half to be fair...
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Yeah, I was sixteen and half and then,
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I stopped the Minstrels,
I stopped with the Coke, bottles of Coke.
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Yeah, and I got weighed every day.
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It worked, you know.
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I'd been hardly playing for the youth team.
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Within a month
I was captain of the youth team.
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I was captain of the reserves.
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And took them onto...
We got to the Youth Cup final.
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Jack Charlton, he went,
"What are you doing tomorrow?"
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Sort of thing, this was a Friday night,
after the game.
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And I went, "I'm just gonna go back.
Just chill out, you know."
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And he went, "I would like you to play
for the first team tomorrow."
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And that was my start of my career.
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Once I started playing for Newcastle,
it was...
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The feeling was,
the buzz was incredible, you know.
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Playing for your hometown, and that.
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And then eventually, you know,
one minute you were looking at
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the Gallowgate and seeing
the fans roar and that,
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and then eventually scoring
in front of them, you know.
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The feeling was amazing. It was fantastic.
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Like, "Wow," just thinking,
"I've scored, I've scored.
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"I'll tell me Dad. I'll watch it
on Match of the Day, "you know.
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Then you hear the fans singing your name,
you know.
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It's unbelievable.
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Well, it's goals like that which have made
Paul Gascoigne, or Gazza,
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as they all know him, a real hero
to the people who stand
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on these terraces at St James' Park.
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He looks like the kind of footballer
who plays for the local Sunday pub team
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until you see him play, that is.
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The reason the supporters really
love Gazza is he's one of them,
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T-shirt, anorak and jeans
and a diet of Mars bars and brown ale.
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You won't find it in the coaching manuals,
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but when you can score goals
like he scores, who cares?
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The first time I heard the name
Paul Gascoigne,
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was when he was in
his early days at Newcastle.
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People in the game started talking
about this young man
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that had something a little bit special.
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He was a precocious young talent.
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A kid that would do things,
that would take people on,
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that would beat people,
and had an unbelievable natural talent.
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I think it's about 35 years since
I seen a kid as good as what this lad is.
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And I just cannot believe the skills
of him, he's got everything.
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Everything. Sticks out a mile.
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And he'll tell you so as well, you know.
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- He's a class... Confident.
- He's a confident lad.
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There's no holding him,
he's the best in the world.
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Honestly. The best in the world.
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The manager would say, "Right, then,
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"you're lining up against John Fashanu,
big, strong in the air
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"and tough, and all that.
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"Peter Beardsley, you're up against,
you know, this...
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"Andy Thorn, tough guy,
good in the air, boom-boom."
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And he just went, "Gazza, good luck."
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That was all he said.
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I was, "What do you mean, 'Good luck?“
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He went, "You're playing against a guy,
that... He's quite hard. Vinnie Jones."
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Coming out of the tunnel,
he just fucking looked at us.
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He strains his neck like that,
and he went, “Me and you, fat boy."
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I went, “Shit,"
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you know, and we're walking through
the tunnel and I just looked at him again
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and he went, "What are you fucking
looking at? Just me and you, fat boy!"
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He says, "I cannot play football
and neither are you today."
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They could say that
Vinnie Jones is marking Gascoigne.
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And he followed us,
everywhere. This guy was, just, like, solid.
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It wasn't like he... He was just solid.
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And he wouldn't leave us.
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An amazing dribble.
Goodness, me... Whoa!
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As the game went on,
I just felt a bit more, like,
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confident and that, and I went,
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"I fucking didn't bother with this guy."
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And he started backing up on us
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and so I, sort of like, gave him a push
and that's when he squeezed me,
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squeezed me balls.
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He really squeezed them so hard.
and I was like...
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Honestly, I thought I'd lost
my family allowance.
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We're going in the dressing room
and some girls sent us some roses
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and I went,
“That's nice, I'll give them to Vinnie."
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So I went and I says, "Can you give them
to Vinnie Jones, please, from me?"
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I went back to the dressing room
and then the guy came back, a young kid,
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he went, "That's from Vinnie."
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He was sending us back a toilet brush,
he said to go fuck off.
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That was my first experience
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with Vinnie, you know.
He's been a good friend since, like, you know.
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I'd played for Newcastle
for a year and a half then.
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And, you know, my name was getting round.
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Glenn Roeder said, "Look at Tottenham,
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"Terry Venables wants to sign you
at the end of the season."
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And I just thought, well,
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Tottenham is a big, massive club.
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So is Newcastle,
but they were buying players.
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When I spoke to Terry Venables,
he says, "One thing I can promise you,
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"if you come to this club
I will get you to play for England."
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And, you know, the thought of playing
for England, wow.
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And then, all of a sudden,
Man United come in.
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I thought, "Ooh, Man United,
Sir Alex Ferguson,“ you know.
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The experience of the guy is phenomenal.
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So I spoke to Sir Alex and I says, "Yeah,
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"I'm gonna sign for you."
And he went, "Brilliant."
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He says, "So I can go on holiday now.
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"I've got the player I want?“
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I says, "Yeah, you go away on holiday,
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"I'm signing,
and really enjoy yourself."
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He went, "Cheers, son."
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So I'm on the way to Man United and then
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Tottenham said,
"Look, I tell you what we'll do,
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"we'll buy your parents a house."
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I'm... "Fucking hell. A house."
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I ring my dad up
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and I said, "Dad, you know,
I want to sign for Man United
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"but Spurs has offered to buy
you and mum a house."
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And he went, "What the fuck
are you waiting for then?"
294
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Which was brilliant. I went, "Okay,"
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and then he went, "Can you get a car for us?"
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So I went, “Hold on, Dad."
So I went, "Terry, my dad wants a car."
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I was shitting myself and he went,
"Consider it done. "
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So I'm driving up the motorway,
the phone goes again
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I'm like, "No, it's family."
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I went, "Yeah." It was my sister.
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She went, "Paul, well,
if my mum's getting a house
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"and my dad's getting a car,
I want a sunbed."
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I went, "Hold on." So I ring,
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"You know, the house is quite nice and that,
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"and my sister's room is quite good.
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"Is it okay if she can have a sunbed, please?"
307
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And he went, "Okay, we'll get you
a sunbed for your sister."
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And that was it, signed for Spurs.
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The pressure was on.
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Highest transferred player in the country,
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£2.2 million, you know, you look at it now,
some people get that a month.
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But, for that moment, to go for two million,
the pressure was on.
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Spurs coming
forward again.
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This is Chris Waddle,
made a bit of space for himself.
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Fine run by Gascoigne! Real chance!
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Denied, he test his boot in the process.
But that is his first goal for Spurs,
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and it was scored without a boot.
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It was a sort of impudence.
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Gascoigne... Wonderful!
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He had great confidence.
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You could see he played
for the love of the game.
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Completely for the love of the game.
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He didn't, obviously,
give it too much thought.
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And he had this amazing strength,
upper body,
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where he'd push people off.
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Beautiful combination
from Gascoigne, and he's won out!
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He excited you
on the pitch.
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It mightn't have been the best of games
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but he lifted everyone when he got the ball
and you could feel an anticipation.
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Gascoigne taking
the ball on, and scoring superbly!
331
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And did he enjoy that.
332
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And you get fan mail.
The fan mail starts coming
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thick and fast, you know.
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I remember opening my first fan mail
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and it was from Sir Alex Ferguson.
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I said, "Ooh, shit."
337
00:21:51,576 --> 00:21:54,614
He went, "I can't believe
what you've done, you stupid bastard."
338
00:21:54,946 --> 00:21:59,258
Again, just, "You've turned
down the biggest club in the world."
339
00:21:59,351 --> 00:22:04,425
He says, "You know, I turned down all
these Barcelonas, Madrids and AC Milan
340
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"come to Man United,
You told me to go on my holiday
341
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"and you sign for fucking Spurs.“
342
00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:11,400
It took him six years to get
speaking to us again.
343
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I loved it at Spurs, you know.
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The times I had there were fantastic.
345
00:22:24,576 --> 00:22:26,249
The fun and the laughs we had, you know,
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the team spirit was absolutely brilliant.
347
00:22:29,047 --> 00:22:31,653
I mean, Terry Venables was
the only manager I could think of in this world
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that could deal with us.
349
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I remember halfway through the season,
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the lads went, "I thought you do
crazy things, Gazza."
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I went, "I am I do.
We'll do something tomorrow."
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00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:45,634
So I'm driving home and I pass a zoo.
353
00:22:46,164 --> 00:22:48,542
And I just looked and I went,
“That'd be interesting."
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00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:51,778
The guy's house was actually in the zoo.
355
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,781
I went to his house at 7:30 in the morning,
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knocking on his door.
He went, "What do you want, Gazza?"
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I went, "Can I borrow an ostrich?"
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He fucking...
“What do you want an ostrich for?"
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00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,787
I said, "I just need
to fucking borrow one."
360
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Stick it in the back of the car.
361
00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:12,264
Ostrich giving that with its long neck, man.
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00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:14,264
And I waited till the lads went out warming up
363
00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:18,134
and I got the ostrich. I went, "Yeah, lads, look
at this new player Terry Venables signed,
364
00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:20,436
"the gaffer's signed,"
and I threw it on the pitch.
365
00:23:20,499 --> 00:23:23,708
And it was so funny because the lads
were doing side-to-side running
366
00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:25,771
and this ostrich was doing the same behind.
367
00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:27,816
I thought it was quite funny.
368
00:23:28,006 --> 00:23:31,783
All the lads did
but the lads finish training at 1:00.
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Have you ever tried
catching a fucking ostrich?
370
00:23:34,312 --> 00:23:36,918
Honestly.
I caught this ostrich...
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00:23:37,048 --> 00:23:40,257
I got the ostrich back at around
5:00 in the afternoon.
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I was knackered.
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Well, the
training ground experience,
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like anything else with Gazza, is always,
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00:23:56,701 --> 00:23:57,975
is always great fun.
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00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:02,147
A practical joker,
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beyond the likes of which
I don't think I've ever seen,
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00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:07,456
before or after.
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Didn't always know where the line was.
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And would occasionally cross it.
381
00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:14,760
Honestly, Gary Lineker has got
a woman's body.
382
00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:16,958
It's so smooth and everything, honestly.
383
00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:20,495
He could be, could have,
close to the body of a ladyboy.
384
00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,505
We used to have
a guy coming along to training.
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00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:28,442
Nice chap. Do anything for you.
386
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,344
One day,
Gazza had brought in this campervan
387
00:24:31,436 --> 00:24:33,677
and he'd gone and got
one of those parking cones.
388
00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:35,877
He climbed up and he put it on the roof.
389
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,146
This chap comes out.
390
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:39,785
Gazza shouts to him,
he says, "Hey, just, do us a favour
391
00:24:39,845 --> 00:24:42,724
"just nip up there
and get the cone off the roof.
392
00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:45,125
"Somebody, somebody's put it
on the roof of my van."
393
00:24:45,217 --> 00:24:46,855
So he went, "Yeah, sure."
394
00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:48,431
So he goes and he climbs up
the ladder on the back
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and he gets up.
396
00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:51,861
And as he does so,
397
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Gazza switches the thing on
and goes and drives out.
398
00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:58,668
And now the fellow is hanging on this ladder,
on the back of this truck.
399
00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:01,971
And he goes out of the gates at
the old training ground in Mill Hill.
400
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,479
Turns right
and there's a little mini roundabout
401
00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:07,312
about 200 yards uphill.
He goes up this roundabout.
402
00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:09,816
The fellow now is like Superman, horizontal,
403
00:25:09,908 --> 00:25:11,819
hanging onto this ladder at the back.
404
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:15,653
It was the most dangerous but hilarious thing,
I think I've ever seen.
405
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:18,327
And he went around
the roundabout, screeched back.
406
00:25:18,383 --> 00:25:21,455
Still somehow he hung on, thankfully.
407
00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:23,226
Otherwise it could have been disastrous.
408
00:25:23,288 --> 00:25:27,293
Screeched back into the car park. Parked it.
Everyone's crying with laughter,
409
00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:29,929
and, as he pulls in, Terry Venables walks out
410
00:25:30,662 --> 00:25:32,073
and he comes out and he goes,
411
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:33,675
"I don't wanna be seeing this really, do I?"
412
00:25:33,732 --> 00:25:35,507
And he walked straight back in again.
413
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:43,777
I think if you just let someone
have their head completely,
414
00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:46,446
it can go out of control
and you can blossom the person.
415
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,752
If you keep right on top of them, you stifle it.
416
00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:51,023
It's the personality that he is.
417
00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:53,184
I mean, he's a joy to have in the club.
418
00:25:53,451 --> 00:25:57,661
The players like him.
You know, he's a kind fellow
419
00:25:57,789 --> 00:25:59,666
and he's got a lot of heart and warmth.
420
00:26:02,694 --> 00:26:04,139
Terry Venables was brilliant.
421
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,703
I think it was, yeah.
I think it was me 10th game.
422
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:09,508
And he says "Gaz, I need to see you."
423
00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:12,513
He shouted it from his window
because his office is upstairs.
424
00:26:12,637 --> 00:26:15,174
And I thought, "Shit, well,
I'm in trouble here. What have I done?"
425
00:26:15,273 --> 00:26:19,016
And he says, "Sit down."
And he kept a serious face.
426
00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:21,624
I'm going, "I haven't done anything wrong,
have I? I haven't?"
427
00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:24,124
He went, "I've got some news for you."
428
00:26:24,382 --> 00:26:25,759
And I was like, "Yeah?"
429
00:26:25,951 --> 00:26:28,158
He went, "You've been picked
for England." Wow.
430
00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,560
Feel like crying now, thinking about it.
431
00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:41,909
I worked with Mr Robson,
432
00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:46,539
and Mr Robson was really in love with Paul
433
00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:51,115
and was permanently speaking
about his talent
434
00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:56,023
and about the pleasure he had to coach
such a talented player.
435
00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:58,019
He is a rare talent,
436
00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,027
which we need to nurture and we need to
437
00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:03,623
give him his head sometimes
and he needs just to be disciplined as well.
438
00:27:07,592 --> 00:27:10,937
I don't think, going into 1990,
expectations were that high.
439
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:15,468
Obviously, England had underachieved
since '66, when we won the World Cup.
440
00:27:15,567 --> 00:27:19,242
Inside the camp, I think we were,
you know, quietly confident.
441
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,410
You'd look around. You'd go, "We've actually
got a really good group of players here.
442
00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:24,714
"We've got half a chance,
if things go our way.“
443
00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:31,517
In that World Cup,
there wasn't anybody that stood out,
444
00:27:31,716 --> 00:27:35,391
basically, from the first game.
It was Cameroon versus Argentina,
445
00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,564
with Maradona and that playing,
and Cameroon won, one-nil.
446
00:27:39,057 --> 00:27:41,663
And you think, well, everybody's
got a chance here, you know.
447
00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:54,539
The game against the Dutch
was the game that Gazza emerged
448
00:27:54,773 --> 00:27:57,276
as being a genuinely world-class talent.
449
00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:04,816
Gazza was brilliant. Unbelievably brilliant.
450
00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,829
I remember him. He was chasing Ruud Gullit,
451
00:28:07,886 --> 00:28:08,956
pulling his dreadlocks.
452
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:12,194
And he was winding Gullit up.
And he was going, "What? Who?
453
00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:14,396
"Who is this kid? What's he doing?"
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00:28:16,394 --> 00:28:19,307
The one thing I used to love
about watching Paul play was
455
00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:22,343
how he got the ball and he ran
at defenders with the ball and...
456
00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:24,676
Nowadays you mightn’t getaway with it
457
00:28:24,736 --> 00:28:26,909
but he'd always protect himself
with his arms.
458
00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:29,949
It's a great art to be able to do, and,
459
00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,881
you know, to not let the defenders near you.
460
00:28:31,943 --> 00:28:34,150
Gascoigne.
461
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:36,791
This is brilliant stuff from Gascoigne.
462
00:28:38,316 --> 00:28:40,796
He was aggressive.
Very physical.
463
00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:43,832
At the same time, very technical.
464
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:48,337
Fantastic characteristics that you need
to be a top football player.
465
00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:01,614
Scifo went for it
and I sort of, like, tackled him,
466
00:29:01,706 --> 00:29:03,913
but what happened was I
brought me other foot across
467
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:07,582
and sort of like tried to give him a whack,
a little bit, as well, and the referee's seen it.
468
00:29:07,779 --> 00:29:11,522
The Belgians unhappy
with that, and Gascoigne gets a yellow card.
469
00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:13,256
I forgot about the yellow card.
470
00:29:14,052 --> 00:29:15,554
A couple of minutes left, I got booked.
471
00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:18,392
I just wanted to give my all,
like all the players we had.
472
00:29:18,456 --> 00:29:20,299
Give it all for England, you know.
473
00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,832
It's a battle
against the clock here, for sure.
474
00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:26,706
I was thinking what to do with the ball,
475
00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:29,038
whether I was just going
to just try to whack it towards the keeper.
476
00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:30,579
But then Bobby Robson, I could hear him,
477
00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:31,874
and I dare not look at him,
478
00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:33,938
and I can hear him screaming,
"Just chip it in. Chip it in."
479
00:29:34,005 --> 00:29:35,416
You know, and...
480
00:29:35,507 --> 00:29:37,680
Eventually, like, we got
Butcher forward and then,
481
00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:42,221
then I did the worst pass in the world.
I chipped it to David Platt
482
00:29:42,313 --> 00:29:44,054
and made him a player. Devastated.
483
00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:45,517
Then I...
484
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:47,619
Gascoigne's free kick.
485
00:29:48,486 --> 00:29:51,592
And Platt! David Platt has scored for England.
486
00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:55,596
It was the explosion of different emotions.
487
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:59,767
It wasn't just the joy of the fact that
this was a last-minute, stunning winner.
488
00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:03,141
It was also the fact that,
we haven't got to take penalties.
489
00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,508
England, through
to the quarter-finals,
490
00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:08,710
and Gascoigne's reaction says it all.
491
00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:14,146
Afterwards, it was brilliant,
because afterwards, after the game,
492
00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:16,590
we're all in the dressing room,
and diving in the bath
493
00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:18,457
and doing somersaults
and everything, you know.
494
00:30:18,616 --> 00:30:21,028
We were over the moon to get
through that one.
495
00:30:27,458 --> 00:30:29,529
The atmosphere in the dressing room
was incredible.
496
00:30:30,128 --> 00:30:33,007
Incredible because we were under
a lot of pressure in that game, you know.
497
00:30:33,932 --> 00:30:35,104
Gascoigne calling for it.
498
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:38,670
Here's Stuart Pearce
looking long to the far post.
499
00:30:38,736 --> 00:30:40,374
And David Platt!
500
00:30:42,273 --> 00:30:43,809
We took the lead,
David Platt.
501
00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:46,948
And then they scored two goals.
502
00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:51,151
And it's one-one.
503
00:30:54,619 --> 00:30:57,225
Cameroon, they're in the lead!
504
00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,858
Whilst we knew they were a good side,
505
00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:01,198
if we'd have come home, losing to Cameroon,
506
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,903
you know, they would have been
the first African side to make
507
00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:06,634
the semi-finals of the World Cup,
we'd have been ridiculed.
508
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:10,035
You know, then
there's the little ball knocked into me.
509
00:31:10,101 --> 00:31:12,741
I turn, got brought down. Penalty.
510
00:31:16,741 --> 00:31:18,220
And Lineker scores!
511
00:31:18,309 --> 00:31:20,915
And it's all square at two-two.
512
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:25,550
Often the only way you'd have a chance
of getting the ball off Gazza
513
00:31:26,150 --> 00:31:28,824
was actually if he knew you had
no alternative but to give it
514
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:31,060
to him straight back, a little one-two.
515
00:31:31,189 --> 00:31:33,499
Unless he was completely knackered.
516
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,261
Then you've got a chance as well.
517
00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:38,397
A la extra time. Against Cameroon.
518
00:31:38,496 --> 00:31:40,066
Quarter finals of the World Cup.
519
00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:42,166
England much more
on top now.
520
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:43,745
This is Gascoigne.
521
00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:46,748
That's a great ball to Lineker.
He's got away!
522
00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:49,580
And he's brought down.
Another penalty, surely.
523
00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:51,551
That pass there, which he was capable of
524
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,819
all the time but didn't do very often,
525
00:31:53,978 --> 00:31:55,924
was because he couldn't run any more.
526
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:02,459
Straight down the middle!
England are back in the lead.
527
00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:07,030
We were in a World Cup semi-final.
528
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:09,298
You know, we had done better
than any other team had ever done,
529
00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:12,340
for England, apart from on our own shores.
530
00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:20,548
Gascoigne has done
so much to pull England into the semi-finals.
531
00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:24,484
And no one appreciates that more
than his manager, Bobby Robson.
532
00:32:37,588 --> 00:32:41,263
England's footballers are preparing
for their most important game
533
00:32:41,326 --> 00:32:44,273
since winning the World Cup in 1966.
534
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,099
They fly to Turin later today
535
00:32:46,197 --> 00:32:48,507
for Wednesdays semi-final
against West Germany.
536
00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:52,071
The night before the game,
the semi-final, was all, like...
537
00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:54,911
I was rooming with Chris Waddle.
It was half past 10:00
538
00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:57,612
and I was with Chris and I went,
"I can't sleep. I'm going for a walk."
539
00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:00,650
So I was out for a walk and I just
heard some guys playing tennis.
540
00:33:01,346 --> 00:33:03,986
So, it was two Americans, I went,
"Can I join in lads? I'll challenge you."
541
00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:07,061
So I was working my nuts off
to beat these two Americans
542
00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:09,064
and I hear, "Gazza."
543
00:33:10,955 --> 00:33:13,492
And I just see Sir Bobby Robson.
544
00:33:14,625 --> 00:33:16,434
I've ran. I've ran to my room.
545
00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:18,834
About five minutes later
there's smashing at the door.
546
00:33:18,896 --> 00:33:20,500
Sir Bobby Robson. Banging like mad.
547
00:33:20,631 --> 00:33:23,077
"Open the door. Open the door.
Chris, where's Gazza?"
548
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:25,539
And so I looked at Chris, I went,
"Tell him I'm sleeping."
549
00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:27,147
He went, "He's sleeping, gaffer."
550
00:33:27,538 --> 00:33:29,916
He went, "Sleeping?
He's just been playing tennis."
551
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,749
And Chris looked at us and I went...
552
00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:34,254
And that was it.
A little letter come through the door.
553
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:35,653
"I'll see you in the morning."
554
00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:38,754
So I didn't sleep well that night
because I thought he was going to drop us.
555
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:44,159
Bobby Robson wanted
a team meeting, with all the players.
556
00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:47,129
But he was late for the meeting.
He was always, he was always a bit late
557
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,999
and whilst he was late,
558
00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:52,132
I, I put on this board
559
00:33:52,263 --> 00:33:55,073
I put, "Even money, he mentions the war."
560
00:33:57,101 --> 00:33:59,445
Then I put the sheet back down
and Bobby comes in
561
00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:01,014
and he addresses, we're all sitting there.
562
00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:02,345
And he goes,
563
00:34:03,474 --> 00:34:04,714
"We beat them in the war."
564
00:34:05,176 --> 00:34:08,055
It was his first words and it was just...
And then there was this uproar,
565
00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:10,592
uproar, in the whole room
and Bobby's going,
566
00:34:10,648 --> 00:34:12,594
"What's going on? What? What?"
567
00:34:12,650 --> 00:34:14,391
So, I said, "You might wanna turn?"
568
00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:17,228
So he turned it over and he went,
"You bugger."
569
00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,139
The teams,
just about to appear
570
00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:32,271
and the atmosphere here in Turin
is absolutely wonderful.
571
00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:35,317
Huge support for both sides.
Huge anticipation.
572
00:34:38,142 --> 00:34:40,622
The only thing you hear is just this
unbelievable noise, you know.
573
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,655
And the longer you're in the tunnel,
the worse it gets.
574
00:34:48,686 --> 00:34:51,997
Try not listening. Put a deaf ear to it,
you know, because all you think is, like,
575
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,592
"Win this, and you're in the final
of the World Cup."
576
00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:55,899
Which England haven't done since 1966,
you know.
577
00:34:59,897 --> 00:35:02,878
I just seen the way the players had
passion in them there, you know?
578
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,971
They just stood up. Three Lions.
579
00:35:05,069 --> 00:35:08,778
We were singing the national anthem,
and it was incredible.
580
00:35:09,173 --> 00:35:10,584
The adrenaline was unbelievable.
581
00:35:18,983 --> 00:35:20,792
I think that was one of my best games
for England.
582
00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:22,593
Nearly scored in the first five minutes.
583
00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:25,895
Gascoigne!
And he's close.
584
00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:27,863
A bright start for England.
585
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:33,833
We were so... I didn't realise that we were
actually much the better side on that day.
586
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:36,267
Stuart Pearce.
587
00:35:40,271 --> 00:35:43,275
It's a challenge,
and that's a free kick to West Germany.
588
00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:45,883
England wall.
589
00:35:47,011 --> 00:35:48,547
And this is Brehme.
590
00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:53,224
And it was deflected,
and over Peter Shilton.
591
00:35:53,618 --> 00:35:55,256
Unlucky.
592
00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:57,459
Parker.
593
00:35:58,389 --> 00:36:01,063
Lineker forward, but somewhat outnumbered.
594
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:02,729
But he's stolen it!
595
00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:08,643
And it's one-one,
and England's players and fans alike go wild.
596
00:36:09,767 --> 00:36:11,440
Wonderful comeback.
597
00:36:11,969 --> 00:36:14,347
That smile says it all.
598
00:36:14,472 --> 00:36:16,110
What about that hug?
599
00:36:16,607 --> 00:36:20,111
And then, obviously, the famous...
The second yellow card.
600
00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:24,616
Gascoigne,
shrugging off a challenge.
601
00:36:25,449 --> 00:36:29,955
And then losing it a bit and
stretching for it and that could be trouble!
602
00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:31,624
And, honestly, if I look at it,
603
00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:34,693
back at it, I honestly don't think
I even touched the guy.
604
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,503
He's took the ball and my foot, that's actually
supposed to have kicked him,
605
00:36:38,596 --> 00:36:40,098
was behind his heel.
606
00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:43,178
You know, I didn't seem to have made
any contact whatsoever.
607
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:47,209
And he's rolling all over
as if I'd, like, done him in badly.
608
00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:50,152
The scream might have pissed me off
more than anything.
609
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,017
'Cause he screamed like a baby
and he's like...
610
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,623
So I tried to put my fingers in his mouth
and try and shut him up, and...
611
00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:57,590
But obviously he's carried on squealing.
612
00:36:58,516 --> 00:37:00,154
When I get kicked, I take it as a compliment.
613
00:37:00,484 --> 00:37:02,589
That means they're worried
about us, you know.
614
00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:06,094
I could never bring myself to rolling all over,
you know.
615
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:07,926
Especially where I'm from and that.
616
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,432
It's a yellow card
for Paul Gascoigne.
617
00:37:11,495 --> 00:37:15,238
He's already had one in this tournament,
and his face tells the story.
618
00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:19,907
He knows that if England get to the final,
he will not be a part of it.
619
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:25,085
All I kept thinking about with the card
was if I get to the final, I'm missing it
620
00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:28,021
And I worked so hard to get to
where I was, you know,
621
00:37:28,112 --> 00:37:30,023
semi-final of the World Cup and...
622
00:37:31,716 --> 00:37:33,491
Then obviously the crying.
623
00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:46,699
After a couple of minutes,
I just thought to myself,
624
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:50,178
give me all in the last 20 minutes
and get the lads to the final.
625
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:51,645
You know, if you have
a look at that last 20 minutes
626
00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:53,909
I really worked my nuts off.
627
00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:58,548
It'll be England's
first-ever penalty shoot-out,
628
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,418
and what a time for it to come.
629
00:38:00,745 --> 00:38:03,521
A place in the World Cup final at stake.
630
00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:06,890
At that stage, at the end of the game,
Gazza then goes,
631
00:38:08,185 --> 00:38:09,459
"That's my World Cup over.
632
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,025
"That's, so, you know, that's it.
633
00:38:12,156 --> 00:38:15,228
"Whatever happens now,
I'm not going to be playing again."
634
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:21,671
When Sir Bobby
come up on the pitch,
635
00:38:21,732 --> 00:38:23,336
you know, he hugged us and he went,
636
00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:26,040
"Look at you, you've done me proud,
you've done your country proud,
637
00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:29,107
'you've done your family proud,
your club proud, your manager proud. "
638
00:38:30,574 --> 00:38:33,487
And it was really nice of him to say that
you know, and come up to us.
639
00:38:33,611 --> 00:38:35,648
But I just didn't feel right to take a penalty.
640
00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:41,362
Between him and Bobby Robson,
they decided that
641
00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:43,489
perhaps it was best that he wouldn't take one.
642
00:38:44,555 --> 00:38:45,659
I wish he had.
643
00:38:49,727 --> 00:38:52,503
The overriding feeling that you get
644
00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:56,305
from scoring a penalty in a shootout
is one of relief.
645
00:38:56,367 --> 00:38:58,779
You know, "Well, it ain't gonna be my fault."
646
00:38:58,903 --> 00:39:01,474
Which is a terrible thing to say but, you know,
647
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:05,749
we're human beings and, you know,
the one thing you would never wanna do
648
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:09,451
is be the person that misses
the penalty that will be shown forever more.
649
00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:48,155
You know, you don't shed tears on
a football pitch if you don't care
650
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,423
about playing for your country.
651
00:39:52,289 --> 00:39:53,597
It was incredible, really.
652
00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:57,706
If I'm sitting here now, saying to my children
653
00:39:58,262 --> 00:40:00,003
or explaining about Paul Gascoigne,
654
00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:03,170
I'd say he's probably
the most exciting English player
655
00:40:03,267 --> 00:40:05,304
I've seen and certainly the best.
656
00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:12,618
There was loads of tears
in the dressing room.
657
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,417
I've never seen anything like it, you know,
658
00:40:14,945 --> 00:40:18,552
and we're all sitting there in tears
and waiting for Sir Bobby.
659
00:40:21,552 --> 00:40:23,964
And he went, "Look here, guys,
you've done me so proud.”
660
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:27,395
“You know, well go out and we'll have,
we'll enjoy ourselves tonight."
661
00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:31,139
Then he was welling up and everyone,
662
00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,874
when the players, I suppose,
when they seen him welling up,
663
00:40:33,964 --> 00:40:36,274
you know, everyone joined in with him.
I mean, it was...
664
00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:39,508
I would never have that feeling again.
665
00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:43,283
You know, I have had great
feelings in my career but that,
666
00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:45,587
that certain moment where it was that close.
667
00:40:45,676 --> 00:40:48,384
I mean, a penalty kick.
Twelve yards away from getting to the final.
668
00:40:57,288 --> 00:41:02,033
We're on the plane and when it come
to land, Gary Lineker come up to us.
669
00:41:02,326 --> 00:41:05,500
And he went, "Paul, be careful,"
670
00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:10,440
And I didn't have a clue
what he was on about.
671
00:41:10,835 --> 00:41:12,473
Be careful for what? You know.
672
00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:21,588
I think it lifted him from being
a great footballer
673
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:25,218
to, almost, a national treasure,
a great personality.
674
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:30,356
It was the moment that a nation cried
with an English footballer.
675
00:41:31,388 --> 00:41:34,733
We want Gazza!
We want Gazza. We want Gazza.
676
00:41:56,614 --> 00:42:00,027
I don't think I'll ever
witness anything like that again.
677
00:42:00,117 --> 00:42:02,654
You know, when you're getting
a crowd like that singing your name
678
00:42:02,753 --> 00:42:06,860
and I've had it at Wembley, when
there's been 80,000, but 120,000..
679
00:42:19,904 --> 00:42:21,941
I remember Peter Beardsley
coming up to us on the bus
680
00:42:22,006 --> 00:42:25,613
and he went, "This is for you, you know?
This is for you." And it was like, wow.
681
00:42:29,179 --> 00:42:31,455
It's one of them things where you
just couldn't take it in, you know?
682
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,722
One was just playing for England
in the World Cup.
683
00:42:33,984 --> 00:42:37,557
Er, but actually taking it all in, it was hard.
684
00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:47,105
And when I got home, my dad had organised
a party back at the working men's club,
685
00:42:47,965 --> 00:42:50,844
and had a party in there.
686
00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:53,745
Which was brilliant, being back
in the hometown, you know.
687
00:42:53,804 --> 00:42:55,784
And I always remember...
688
00:43:03,213 --> 00:43:05,022
There's a...
689
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:13,027
There's a bit the next day, after the party, I...
690
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,798
I went up to the...
691
00:43:16,927 --> 00:43:19,271
Local park and it was empty.
692
00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:23,107
And I just stood there myself
and just thought, "This is where I come from."
693
00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:51,830
Stood there for an hour, you know.
it was a touching feeling to say,
694
00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:56,071
"I come from this town
and I played in the World Cup."
695
00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:01,712
There I was, years ago, just a young kid
running about with a tennis ball
696
00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:03,581
and come back.
697
00:44:05,876 --> 00:44:08,755
Twenty-two heroes out there,
and I was one of them.
698
00:44:23,227 --> 00:44:26,208
The tears that flowed
on that summer night in Italy
699
00:44:26,263 --> 00:44:29,972
have swollen since then into a flood
of national adulation.
700
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:34,482
Paul Gascoigne is Gazza.
Gazza is at the centre of Gazzamania.
701
00:44:34,538 --> 00:44:39,146
Fame and the trappings of fame,
on and off the football field, are his life now.
702
00:44:46,917 --> 00:44:49,488
Do any of youse girls wanna do it
in News of the World?
703
00:44:49,586 --> 00:44:52,624
You gotta come to bed with us.
704
00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:01,843
It's one of them things
I don't think you could ever get used to,
705
00:45:01,899 --> 00:45:03,742
even to this day.
706
00:45:03,834 --> 00:45:08,146
Just everything was coming thick and fast
and even the money.
707
00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:12,517
The holidays, and taking the family
to Disney World. Things I'd only dreamed of.
708
00:45:20,017 --> 00:45:23,897
But sometimes it was, like, 7:00 at night,
I'm sitting outside in the summer
709
00:45:23,987 --> 00:45:25,864
having a beer or whatever
and there are old ladies coming up
710
00:45:25,956 --> 00:45:28,197
and prodding us on the chest,
"What are you doing'?
711
00:45:28,258 --> 00:45:30,670
"Go home. It's 7:00 at night, it's bedtime."
712
00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:34,972
Yeah, so I couldn't do anything.
I couldn't move anywhere.
713
00:45:45,008 --> 00:45:47,386
It was just becoming daft.
How could I handle it?
714
00:45:47,444 --> 00:45:50,357
I couldn't really handle it.
I was living on my own in London.
715
00:45:53,951 --> 00:45:55,828
Love you, Gazza!
716
00:45:55,886 --> 00:45:57,422
- Love you, Gazza!
- All right.
717
00:45:57,488 --> 00:45:59,092
I'm sure!
718
00:45:59,189 --> 00:46:01,135
Look, I was gonna say to you.
719
00:46:01,225 --> 00:46:05,867
You're in a position that most young men
would say is a dream.
720
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:09,874
Erm, but from my perspective,
721
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:13,471
having experienced a tiny piece
of the kind of attention you're getting,
722
00:46:13,537 --> 00:46:15,778
it could turn out to be a nightmare,
you know?
723
00:46:15,873 --> 00:46:19,582
Could be, but I'm trying my best
not to let it turn out that way.
724
00:46:19,676 --> 00:46:22,782
The same newspapers
that are building you to the skies,
725
00:46:22,846 --> 00:46:26,225
and hyping you up
are also trying to give you advice.
726
00:46:26,316 --> 00:46:30,025
Say things, "Will this young man
be able to handle all that attention?"
727
00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:32,226
Yeah, they're building me right up.
728
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:34,030
It's unbelievable
and I can't believe what's happening.
729
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:36,230
Like I say, they're at the end of my road,
730
00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,864
they're outside my house
with cameras, and everything.
731
00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:40,931
It's really... It's frightening, really,
732
00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:42,738
because all I wanna do
is just live my own life.
733
00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:47,742
It's when I found out how bad
the press can be.
734
00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:50,376
Once you're famous, people think it's great.
It's not.
735
00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:52,681
There's only one way to go then
and it's down,
736
00:46:52,743 --> 00:46:54,654
and the press try their hardest
to put you down.
737
00:46:56,413 --> 00:47:00,259
They were writing anything. Just anything
they could, and most of it was lies.
738
00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:05,256
I started drinking,
which was the easy way out of it.
739
00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:08,234
It's just, you know, how can you...
740
00:47:08,292 --> 00:47:10,499
You know, it's just one of them...
741
00:47:10,594 --> 00:47:13,040
Well, how can you adjust to that?
742
00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:22,113
I did a piece in the News of the World
saying it was okay for people with asthma
743
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:24,118
to do sports,
744
00:47:24,174 --> 00:47:26,347
and it was a big spread
in the News of the World,
745
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:28,390
as long as you used this asthma thing.
746
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:32,188
My cousin, my dads brother's son,
747
00:47:32,249 --> 00:47:34,388
he was only 12 or something like that.
748
00:47:34,451 --> 00:47:35,953
I remember him ringing us up and saying,
749
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,465
"Uncle Paul, this thing I've just read
in the News of the World.
750
00:47:38,555 --> 00:47:40,398
"I've got asthma,
is it okay if I go play football?"
751
00:47:40,457 --> 00:47:42,494
And I went, "Yeah, as long
as you use it properly.“
752
00:47:42,593 --> 00:47:45,233
And he went out and I got a call
20 minutes later, he died.
753
00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:51,378
That was really hard to take.
754
00:47:51,468 --> 00:47:54,381
And then I found out
he went and played football
755
00:47:54,471 --> 00:47:57,577
but he didn't take his asthma thing.
It didn't make things any better.
756
00:47:57,674 --> 00:48:01,144
But I think if I hadn't have done
that piece in the News of the World
757
00:48:01,211 --> 00:48:04,021
and he hadn't seen it, maybe,
I think, he'd have been all right, you know?
758
00:48:05,315 --> 00:48:08,660
And then I was having sleepless nights again.
759
00:48:09,686 --> 00:48:11,188
A couple of ticks come back.
760
00:48:12,489 --> 00:48:17,404
That's the only time I started realising that
the 90 minutes on the football field was me.
761
00:48:17,461 --> 00:48:21,034
I was alone and in the zone,
and no one could touch us.
762
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,871
If I had problems, then I went on the pitch
for 90 minutes and they went.
763
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:28,211
But after the game finished, then they come.
764
00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:33,316
Never be left alone with your own thoughts.
That can be dangerous.
765
00:49:01,571 --> 00:49:04,211
The Spurs and England footballer
Paul Gascoigne
766
00:49:04,308 --> 00:49:08,313
is reported to be on the verge
of joining the Italian club Lazio.
767
00:49:08,378 --> 00:49:11,825
Talks are taking place in Rome
between representatives of the two clubs
768
00:49:11,915 --> 00:49:14,953
and if the deal goes through,
Gascoigne's expected to become
769
00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:16,827
the richest player in the world.
770
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:28,367
I always knew in the bottom of my heart
I always wanted to play in an FA Cup final.
771
00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:33,539
All I ever wanted to do
was walk up them stairs being a winner.
772
00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,015
Yeah, I really wanted to do that, you know?
773
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:44,125
We managed to
get through the FA Cup,
774
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:46,855
mainly because of Gazza,
to be perfectly honest.
775
00:49:47,751 --> 00:49:52,564
He almost single-handedly, sort of,
thrust us through to the semi-final.
776
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:10,011
I mean, there are various derbies
around the world.
777
00:50:10,107 --> 00:50:12,553
They're all hugely significant
and mean so much
778
00:50:12,609 --> 00:50:16,819
to the supporters of those clubs.
It's the game that really counts,
779
00:50:16,913 --> 00:50:19,587
and in North London, it's no different
780
00:50:21,952 --> 00:50:24,990
Arsenal were unbelievably strong
at that stage.
781
00:50:25,055 --> 00:50:26,227
They were running away with the league,
782
00:50:26,289 --> 00:50:27,893
everyone thought they were
gonna do the double
783
00:50:27,991 --> 00:50:31,336
and we went into that game
as huge underdogs.
784
00:50:35,065 --> 00:50:37,773
Paul Gascoigne,
out of the keys for Tottenham
785
00:50:37,868 --> 00:50:39,711
and he's really up for it.
786
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:45,110
Back to Gascoigne.
787
00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:48,385
One way, and then the other.
788
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:51,720
Neatly done.
789
00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:57,024
And a late challenge brings a free kick.
790
00:50:57,487 --> 00:50:59,831
When you're actually
lining up for a free kick like that,
791
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:02,427
I'm thinking what to do with it
when all of a sudden, Gary Lineker,
792
00:51:02,492 --> 00:51:05,063
he comes up and he just said, "Have a go."
793
00:51:06,196 --> 00:51:07,402
I went, "Okay," and he ran past.
794
00:51:09,332 --> 00:51:11,676
Is Gascoigne going
to have a crack? He is, you know.
795
00:51:11,768 --> 00:51:15,580
What a goal! Brilliant!
796
00:51:20,777 --> 00:51:24,782
The FA Cup springs mad, magical moments.
797
00:51:25,949 --> 00:51:27,519
I think that's what makes it so special.
798
00:51:29,219 --> 00:51:33,565
To get it over the wall and into
the top comer from so far out is...
799
00:51:34,791 --> 00:51:36,395
It's nearly impossible, really.
800
00:51:39,529 --> 00:51:43,272
You've probably practised that,
that week, 30, 40 times,
801
00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:45,574
and maybe score one
from the same situation.
802
00:51:45,669 --> 00:51:49,674
But it's when it happens in a game,
it's just pure excitement.
803
00:51:52,209 --> 00:51:55,622
It's an unbelievable goal
and still probably one of the best
804
00:51:55,712 --> 00:51:57,589
FA Cup goals to this day.
805
00:51:58,815 --> 00:52:00,726
It's Tottenham Hotspur's day,
806
00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:03,355
to the delight of Gary Mabbutt,
807
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:06,367
and what an inspiration
this man has been to them
808
00:52:06,423 --> 00:52:08,460
with that wonderful free kick.
809
00:52:08,525 --> 00:52:10,266
They'll be back for the final.
810
00:52:12,395 --> 00:52:15,274
I'm now away to get my suit measured. Yes!
811
00:52:15,332 --> 00:52:16,834
What about
your start to the game?
812
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,972
It wasn't bad, was it?
I must go.
813
00:52:33,583 --> 00:52:38,259
I think all young lads from England
will dream about winning the FA Cup.
814
00:52:42,292 --> 00:52:46,297
It's something which I still dream of,
to be honest, I've never won the FA Cup
815
00:52:46,396 --> 00:52:48,501
and it's such a historic trophy.
816
00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:04,017
Really, it was my first final.
Missed, obviously, the World Cup final.
817
00:53:04,114 --> 00:53:07,357
In the times at Newcastle, I never got
to any final So, this was my first final.
818
00:53:08,752 --> 00:53:10,857
You try and take in as much as you can
819
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:13,264
because you never know when
you'll play in another one.
820
00:53:15,091 --> 00:53:17,697
We all lining up and we're seeing
Lady Diana come on the pitch
821
00:53:17,794 --> 00:53:21,241
and she came up to us and I went,
"Can I have a kiss, please?"
822
00:53:21,364 --> 00:53:24,709
And she put her hand out, she got
a bit embarrassed, and I kissed her hand.
823
00:53:24,768 --> 00:53:26,770
And a couple of the lads were laughing.
824
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:33,279
It was the first time I played a match
with a hard-on. It was unbelievable.
825
00:53:39,716 --> 00:53:41,753
Forest,
attacking down the left.
826
00:53:42,185 --> 00:53:46,156
Gascoigne tries to turn...
That's an awful challenge.
827
00:53:47,257 --> 00:53:51,330
The tackle, I've come, I've went through
the ball and I've lifted my leg high.
828
00:53:53,897 --> 00:53:55,501
He didn't even book us, the ref,
829
00:53:56,132 --> 00:53:59,079
Really sometimes in hindsight
I wish I'd have been sent off for that.
830
00:54:06,009 --> 00:54:09,149
Forest coming forward
again, trying to find a bit of space.
831
00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:12,659
Gascoigne coming across...
That's a dreadful challenge!
832
00:54:14,351 --> 00:54:16,297
And he looks to be in agony.
833
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,431
I'm off balance and I've just tried
to put a massive tackle in.
834
00:54:25,462 --> 00:54:29,774
That was it, knee just went
and I just went down and I knew I was out.
835
00:54:32,636 --> 00:54:35,708
Terry Venables,
understandably concerned.
836
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:39,186
And Gascoigne is carried off.
837
00:54:39,309 --> 00:54:41,346
His Cup final is over.
838
00:54:41,645 --> 00:54:45,320
John Sheridan come into the physio bit
at Wembley.
839
00:54:45,382 --> 00:54:47,726
He had tears in his eyes
and when you see somebody
840
00:54:47,784 --> 00:54:51,493
that cares for you so much and seeing
tears in his eyes, it was like, "Shit."
841
00:54:51,588 --> 00:54:55,126
"So how long am I going to be out for?
Three weeks?" He went, "No." I went, "Shit."
842
00:54:55,225 --> 00:54:58,434
I went, "Three months?" He went, "Nah."
I went, "Six months, then?"
843
00:54:58,495 --> 00:55:01,942
He went, "No, you're going to be
out a year." I burst down crying.
844
00:55:13,943 --> 00:55:16,787
To know that you've done
something really serious,
845
00:55:16,846 --> 00:55:20,191
to be in a hospital room
watching your team lift the FA Cup.
846
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:21,558
I...
847
00:55:22,752 --> 00:55:25,961
I can't begin to imagine the emotions
that were going through his head.
848
00:55:29,793 --> 00:55:34,003
That was it. Once I seen
Gary Mabbutt walk up the steps...
849
00:55:37,867 --> 00:55:40,939
Lifting up the trophy.
That destroyed us, that,
850
00:55:41,037 --> 00:55:43,176
because that's an I wanted to do.
851
00:55:44,341 --> 00:55:45,877
If I could have done that, it's just, like,
852
00:55:45,975 --> 00:55:48,114
l wouldn’t be bothered if
I played another match.
853
00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:52,422
I wouldn't have been bothered.
And to miss out on that...
854
00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:55,496
It was unbelievable.
855
00:55:55,585 --> 00:55:58,759
And I went, "Could I have a sleeping tablet?"
So I'd go to sleep.
856
00:55:58,822 --> 00:56:01,598
And they went, "Just wait a bit,"
and I didn't know what was happening.
857
00:56:01,691 --> 00:56:04,865
Then, all of a sudden,
about two and a half hours after the game,
858
00:56:04,928 --> 00:56:08,569
the door smashed in.
It was Gary Mabbutt with the FA Cup.
859
00:56:13,636 --> 00:56:16,913
The team come in. Some of the players
were with their wives and that.
860
00:56:16,973 --> 00:56:20,182
I was like, my eyes must have been
red as fuck, just crying.
861
00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:22,421
And...
862
00:56:22,512 --> 00:56:26,392
And then they went, "All right, Gaz,
we gotta go back to the party."
863
00:56:26,449 --> 00:56:29,896
I was, like, to the surgeon, "Please just
plaster me up and let us go to the party."
864
00:56:29,986 --> 00:56:32,660
He went, "Paul,
it's either the party or your career."
865
00:56:38,461 --> 00:56:40,941
You think, "Am I going
to be the player I was?"
866
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:45,035
And I just wanted to get back playing again.
867
00:56:45,101 --> 00:56:49,208
I had to. I had a big move on.
Spurs were making money from us.
868
00:56:49,339 --> 00:56:53,151
I had an opportunity in playing abroad.
869
00:56:53,209 --> 00:56:55,621
And that's all I knew, football,
870
00:56:55,712 --> 00:57:00,661
I mean, two and two comes to five.
No, that was all I knew, football.
871
00:57:05,021 --> 00:57:08,628
When you're in a room, when you're
working on the machines and all that,
872
00:57:08,725 --> 00:57:11,899
and you're seeing the lads out in the field
kicking the ball about and having fun,
873
00:57:11,995 --> 00:57:16,239
it destroys you a little bit
and sometimes it felt a bit lonely.
874
00:57:16,299 --> 00:57:17,539
It wasn't too good.
875
00:57:21,738 --> 00:57:24,309
Just me and the physio, you know?
Constantly training.
876
00:57:24,474 --> 00:57:27,318
Because when you're injured, you
have to train twice as hard as other players
877
00:57:27,377 --> 00:57:28,822
to get back to match fitness.
878
00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:43,261
It was on the Friday and Terry Venables said,
879
00:57:43,326 --> 00:57:47,536
“Paul, you can join in with the team now,
on Monday.“ And I was so excited.
880
00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:49,507
I went up to Newcastle to celebrate
with the family.
881
00:57:49,566 --> 00:57:51,477
I'm training on Monday with the team.
882
00:57:51,534 --> 00:57:55,778
We're in a nightclub when a guy
went past us deliberately and nudged us.
883
00:57:55,872 --> 00:57:57,545
And he went, “Are you Paul Gascoigne?"
I went, "Yeah,"
884
00:57:57,607 --> 00:58:00,520
and he banged us right in the chin
and I fell on my kneecap.
885
00:58:02,545 --> 00:58:06,425
I went to the hospital and I said,
"There's something wrong with my knee."
886
00:58:06,516 --> 00:58:09,861
You know, when you press your kneecap?
I pressed my kneecap in, it wasn't there.
887
00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:11,193
I had no kneecap.
888
00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:19,201
I had to sit on the settee for three months,
just with my leg solid straight.
889
00:58:19,262 --> 00:58:24,541
If I had any chance of making it again.
So I had to wait another six months
890
00:58:36,145 --> 00:58:37,783
Gazza. Gazza, welcome.
891
00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:43,621
I've never seen anything like that.
It was crazy.
892
00:58:55,465 --> 00:58:58,275
Nineteen bodyguards, either side of us.
They couldn't stop them back
893
00:58:58,334 --> 00:59:01,747
and they were throwing scarves at you,
trying to squash you.
894
00:59:01,804 --> 00:59:03,613
It was really scary.
895
00:59:06,543 --> 00:59:11,117
They're obsessed with football, full stop.
lt is one football country, that.
896
00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:13,023
It's incredible.
897
00:59:13,116 --> 00:59:16,654
It was the highest paid transfer made in Italy
898
00:59:16,753 --> 00:59:18,755
and they made a massive thing of it.
899
00:59:31,701 --> 00:59:35,114
Once you're idolised by the fans,
it's non-stop.
900
00:59:35,171 --> 00:59:38,880
Back in England you'd get maybe
20 or 30 watching training.
901
00:59:38,942 --> 00:59:41,946
In Italy, they surrounded the pitch.
Surrounded.
902
00:59:42,011 --> 00:59:44,753
You couldn't do anything about it.
And if you did,
903
00:59:44,814 --> 00:59:47,727
if the team played bad,
they would shake the fence. Go off it.
904
00:59:47,784 --> 00:59:50,663
They'd really go off it.
And some of the players I could see,
905
00:59:50,753 --> 00:59:53,632
they all had good wages
but they all had little banger cars.
906
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:56,000
And I'm like,
“Why you got little cars like that?"
907
00:59:56,059 --> 00:59:58,471
Because I realised when you played bad,
you'd drive past them
908
00:59:58,528 --> 01:00:00,804
and they'd smash, and bang,
and kick your car and everything.
909
01:00:01,331 --> 01:00:03,368
Yeah, it's like that. It's intense,
910
01:00:23,686 --> 01:00:26,098
The players put the panics up us.
They're going, "Shit, Paul,
911
01:00:26,189 --> 01:00:28,601
"if I lose this, I won't be able
to go out for weeks."
912
01:00:28,658 --> 01:00:30,035
That's what it was like.
913
01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:33,540
Come to the kick-off and it was like,
then I got nervous.
914
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:36,941
It was the first time really, in a game,
when I got nervous. “Got to win this game."
915
01:00:43,506 --> 01:00:46,783
And then, obviously, the game kicked off
and we're getting beat one-nil.
916
01:00:46,876 --> 01:00:49,652
Then we got, obviously, the free kick.
917
01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:51,817
And I went over to take the free kick
and Beppe Signori says,
918
01:00:51,948 --> 01:00:55,157
"No, you get in the box." I went,
"No, I don't score many goals with my head."
919
01:00:55,218 --> 01:00:58,165
I said, "You get in the box." And he went,
"Well, I'm only fucking five foot."
920
01:00:58,221 --> 01:01:00,292
So I was like, "Okay, I'll go in the box."
921
01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:02,802
And by the time I got in the box,
he was ready to take it.
922
01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:19,415
It was incredible. It was like, wow.
You think you just won the war.
923
01:01:20,777 --> 01:01:24,623
I could have lived on that goal
for a few years over there. It was brilliant.
924
01:01:24,714 --> 01:01:28,821
I scored the first goal in a Roma derby,
105,000 people there.
925
01:01:28,885 --> 01:01:32,765
It was a phenomenal feeling.
Really was, it was incredible.
926
01:01:33,756 --> 01:01:36,635
- Gazza!
- I love you. You are my God.
927
01:01:36,693 --> 01:01:38,229
- You are my God.
- Thank you.
928
01:01:38,294 --> 01:01:41,503
You are my God.
929
01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:43,544
"You are my God."
930
01:01:47,303 --> 01:01:49,681
I played against Maradona once in Seville.
931
01:01:50,473 --> 01:01:53,943
And I turned up for the game. I went, "Diego.
932
01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:56,456
I said, "I can't even really play,
but I'm a bit drunk."
933
01:01:56,546 --> 01:01:57,786
He went, "Gazza, so am I."
934
01:01:57,847 --> 01:02:00,191
It was funny as fuck.
935
01:02:00,249 --> 01:02:02,627
We started the game and I got the ball
and I'd beat five players
936
01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:04,096
and smashed it into the bottom corner.
937
01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:15,108
I always remember afterwards, I went,
“Do the press conference, please'
938
01:02:15,164 --> 01:02:17,667
"I'm in trouble."
And he went down, "So am I."
939
01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:20,544
And I think we both got fined
about 40,000 each.
940
01:02:28,611 --> 01:02:32,582
In Italy, we trained twice a day.
It was phenomenal. So hot.
941
01:02:32,648 --> 01:02:35,458
Their warm-up was like
our training session in England.
942
01:02:35,551 --> 01:02:38,760
For instance, if you get beat one-nil,
943
01:02:38,821 --> 01:02:42,997
the president would come in and say,
“It was crap today.
944
01:02:43,059 --> 01:02:46,040
"I'm sorry, but you won't be
going home tonight after the game.
945
01:02:46,095 --> 01:02:48,632
“You'll be getting straight on the bus
and shooting off for three days.“
946
01:02:48,731 --> 01:02:51,337
And he'd take you and he'd have
a training camp and run you.
947
01:02:52,935 --> 01:02:55,108
We played this little five-a-side game
948
01:02:55,171 --> 01:02:57,981
and I let the guy go past us and he scored.
949
01:02:58,074 --> 01:03:00,213
And Dino Zoff went mad on
a couple of players and I went, "Hold on.
950
01:03:00,309 --> 01:03:03,256
"Are we playing serious here?"
I said, "You want to play serious?"
951
01:03:03,346 --> 01:03:04,723
I went, "Okay, then."
952
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:07,523
And Nesta, he was a young kid
and the ball come
953
01:03:07,583 --> 01:03:10,564
and I went for a crunching tackle
and I missed and I hit his calf.
954
01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:14,625
My leg was on the ground and when
he picked up my calf to have a look at it,
955
01:03:14,690 --> 01:03:17,671
the calf and my foot and my ankle
stayed on the ground
956
01:03:17,727 --> 01:03:19,502
and my calf came forward about an inch.
957
01:03:22,431 --> 01:03:25,344
The worst thing is,
they didn't have any stretcher.
958
01:03:25,434 --> 01:03:27,573
So they had to get four guys carrying us.
959
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:29,980
So when one was walking forwards,
the other one was waiting,
960
01:03:30,072 --> 01:03:32,074
so my leg just felt like it was pulling.
961
01:03:34,143 --> 01:03:35,213
I was out for a year.
962
01:03:38,314 --> 01:03:41,352
I don't think there's any question
that the injuries that Gazza sustained
963
01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:45,797
impacted his life both on the pitch
and off the pitch.
964
01:03:45,855 --> 01:03:49,598
And the more time you spend injured,
the more time there is to get
965
01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:53,801
depressed about matters
and perhaps to turn to drink or drugs
966
01:03:53,863 --> 01:03:57,174
or whatever it is that does it for you
in those circumstances.
967
01:03:57,900 --> 01:03:59,902
Especially his personality,
968
01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:02,882
with his affection for the game
and his love of playing,
969
01:04:02,939 --> 01:04:05,715
I think it had a real negative effect on him.
970
01:04:08,311 --> 01:04:10,951
So I missed about
two years, really, in playing out there,
971
01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:14,358
so I never got the chance to really,
before I moved on to Rangers,
972
01:04:14,417 --> 01:04:17,489
to really show the fans
what I really could do, you know?
973
01:04:40,877 --> 01:04:44,256
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.
974
01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:49,228
One Paul Gascoigne.
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.
975
01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:54,030
That time at Rangers was phenomenal.
Really, really unbelievable.
976
01:05:17,613 --> 01:05:20,560
Because I had the press saying,
"He won't do it up here.
977
01:05:20,616 --> 01:05:24,496
"He won't achieve anything up here.
He wouldn't this and that."
978
01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:39,241
Unfortunately for the press,
we won the league, won the cup,
979
01:05:39,302 --> 01:05:42,146
won the other cup.
So I didn't do too bad that year.
980
01:05:56,686 --> 01:05:58,632
- The Celtic's crap...
- Rangers are the best.
981
01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:01,396
Rangers are the crappest.
982
01:06:01,824 --> 01:06:06,102
It's more hatred up there, its horrific.
You got the Protestants against the Catholics.
983
01:06:06,195 --> 01:06:08,232
I've never witnessed anything like that.
984
01:06:08,731 --> 01:06:14,238
The first match we had was, like,
a friendly against Steaua Bucharest
985
01:06:14,303 --> 01:06:17,512
and I just remember the fans singing,
doing The Sash,
986
01:06:17,606 --> 01:06:19,586
and one of the players said to us,
987
01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:22,588
"This is The Sash,
this what it sort of means."
988
01:06:22,645 --> 01:06:23,851
I didn't really take any notice
989
01:06:23,946 --> 01:06:26,586
and I just remember scoring
and I just thought it was a thing to the...
990
01:06:27,516 --> 01:06:29,359
The fans.
991
01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:37,194
And then the next day
when I pick up the paper,
992
01:06:37,259 --> 01:06:41,901
and the front page, "Gazza does The Sash,"
and then when I read what it was all about,
993
01:06:41,964 --> 01:06:43,307
it was like, "My God."
994
01:06:46,102 --> 01:06:48,776
The Protestants are allowed
to walk down this Catholic road
995
01:06:48,871 --> 01:06:51,010
and it's been going on for years
and there always seems to be
996
01:06:51,107 --> 01:06:53,109
people killed every year doing it.
997
01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:56,350
And there's always riots
and bombs and everything
998
01:06:56,412 --> 01:06:58,790
and I never really took any notice of anything.
999
01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:07,193
And then I was just opening the mail
and I looked at it and it went,
1000
01:07:07,256 --> 01:07:11,398
"Hi, my name's such and such,
I'm from the IRA
1001
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:13,701
"and I'm gonna kill you." Yeah.
1002
01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:20,678
It had his name, his address,
his two mobile numbers.
1003
01:07:20,736 --> 01:07:22,682
And I went, "Well, this guy is serious."
1004
01:07:22,738 --> 01:07:26,880
So I showed Walter Smith and he went,
"Oof, better get the police."
1005
01:07:28,144 --> 01:07:30,317
So two police come, undercover,
1006
01:07:30,379 --> 01:07:32,757
and they went, "Give us a look at that.
We'll go and see him for you.“
1007
01:07:32,815 --> 01:07:35,056
And they flew over.
So I'm waiting for their return.
1008
01:07:35,151 --> 01:07:37,859
I'm shitting a brick I'm going,
“Fucking hell, what am I gonna do?"
1009
01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:42,126
I waited three days
and then they come to my house.
1010
01:07:42,224 --> 01:07:45,865
And they went, "Right, we've seen the guy.
He is serious. He is gonna kill you."
1011
01:07:45,928 --> 01:07:48,499
Fucking hell.
So I went, "What are you gonna do about it?"
1012
01:07:48,564 --> 01:07:52,171
He went, “Well, we can't do anything
until he actually flies over
1013
01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:54,714
"and we're not gonna sit and wait
at the airport, Paul,
1014
01:07:54,770 --> 01:07:57,717
"because it might take months.“
So I'm like, "Oof."
1015
01:07:57,773 --> 01:08:01,084
And he went, "Here's a thing."
And it was like a little round thing,
1016
01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:03,521
about that big and I went, "Well, what's that?"
He says, “Open."
1017
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:06,253
Pulled it like that, and he went,
“That's to look under your car for bombs."
1018
01:08:06,348 --> 01:08:09,158
So I'm like, "Shit,“ and then he went,
"Can you ring up your family
1019
01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:11,194
"and tell them all to board the house up."
1020
01:08:11,954 --> 01:08:13,695
Fucking beam the windows up and all,
1021
01:08:13,789 --> 01:08:15,860
in case they shoot through
the windows and all that.
1022
01:08:19,895 --> 01:08:22,705
For the first four or five games, I panicked.
1023
01:08:22,865 --> 01:08:24,867
You just wonder if someone's in the crowd.
1024
01:08:26,168 --> 01:08:29,479
You know, he can be anywhere.
He doesn't have to be on a football pitch.
1025
01:08:29,538 --> 01:08:31,575
He can be hanging outside your house.
1026
01:08:33,809 --> 01:08:35,914
It lasted for six months.
1027
01:08:36,712 --> 01:08:39,124
And then eventually
I got the letter from this guy
1028
01:08:39,181 --> 01:08:41,354
and he went, "Right,
1029
01:08:41,417 --> 01:08:46,264
"you haven't done it for a while.
If you honestly do that again, I will kill you."
1030
01:08:46,355 --> 01:08:48,164
And then it was okay.
Now I could relax.
1031
01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:06,548
England are assured
of a really tough draw already.
1032
01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:09,385
Now, would this be England in with Scotland?
1033
01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:12,354
It is. England against Scotland.
1034
01:09:13,649 --> 01:09:15,686
Scotland is not an international team.
1035
01:09:15,784 --> 01:09:19,197
Scotland. It's a mix of sheep shaggers.
1036
01:09:19,255 --> 01:09:22,259
Scotland have got a better
international record.
1037
01:09:22,324 --> 01:09:24,304
We've qualified for five World Cups.
1038
01:09:24,426 --> 01:09:28,135
All right? That's what we've done.
And what have you done?
1039
01:09:28,264 --> 01:09:30,676
You've only played five...
You've only played five games.
1040
01:09:36,672 --> 01:09:40,313
No! Not my pants.
1041
01:09:40,376 --> 01:09:43,755
The flak I took off of players three months
prior to the tournament was horrendous.
1042
01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:46,258
"We're gonna whop you one.
Stick it right up you."
1043
01:09:46,348 --> 01:09:49,022
I was getting that every single day.
And I'm saying, "We'll see."
1044
01:09:49,084 --> 01:09:52,190
Then I says, "You've gotta remember
I know how seven of youse play."
1045
01:10:01,597 --> 01:10:04,077
We had a little bit of a break,
the season finished with a break
1046
01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:05,635
before the championships.
1047
01:10:05,701 --> 01:10:07,703
We went to Hong Kong.
1048
01:10:07,770 --> 01:10:10,376
It was just like... I think it was like bonding.
1049
01:10:10,472 --> 01:10:14,716
We did a little bit of training.
It was a bit relaxing for a few days.
1050
01:10:14,777 --> 01:10:17,621
There was my birthday as well,
so it was like, okay.
1051
01:10:17,713 --> 01:10:20,250
And then Terry Venables says,
"Look, you go out for the night.
1052
01:10:21,517 --> 01:10:25,090
"Make sure you're back before 12:00."
And then we went out.
1053
01:10:32,428 --> 01:10:35,272
We went to this club.
It was like a theme bar thing.
1054
01:10:35,965 --> 01:10:39,503
And just looked over to see
what everyone was doing.
1055
01:10:39,635 --> 01:10:41,080
And it was like a dentist chair thing.
1056
01:10:41,737 --> 01:10:44,377
And you sat on it and then the guy
come behind you, a couple of guys,
1057
01:10:44,473 --> 01:10:47,386
and he pressed the pedal and it went back.
1058
01:10:47,476 --> 01:10:51,822
And obviously, if you open your mouth,
they pour cocktails down it.
1059
01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:56,356
I give it a go. I didn't get any fillings done.
1060
01:10:56,418 --> 01:10:59,888
But I got a few cocktails down my neck
and then Sol went,
1061
01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:02,094
and Teddy Sheringham went,
Steve McManaman, everyone.
1062
01:11:02,191 --> 01:11:04,262
There were about six who had a go, you know.
1063
01:11:04,326 --> 01:11:07,500
The press got a hold of it. Someone had took
a photo on their mobile phone,
1064
01:11:07,796 --> 01:11:09,503
and then obviously sold the photo.
1065
01:11:10,332 --> 01:11:13,336
That was unbelievable what the press wrote,
for one night out.
1066
01:11:13,435 --> 01:11:15,244
And I get hammered for it.
1067
01:11:15,904 --> 01:11:17,679
The headlines was like,
"Kick him out of the tournament,"
1068
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:20,016
you know, "He's not right. Not ready."
1069
01:11:20,109 --> 01:11:24,182
Well, I just had a full season winning
medals and trophies at Glasgow Rangers.
1070
01:11:24,246 --> 01:11:27,386
All I had to do was just wait
till I start playing football again.
1071
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:30,094
Back on the football pitch. Where I felt safe.
1072
01:11:38,627 --> 01:11:44,236
Was in the Euro. At Wembley.
England against Scotland.
1073
01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:54,413
And I took my wife to the game.
Which, normally, we don't do often.
1074
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:57,184
My wife was pregnant of our first child
1075
01:11:57,246 --> 01:12:00,420
and she was pregnant
of something like six months.
1076
01:12:01,150 --> 01:12:03,630
And, um, and...
1077
01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:07,796
She was so upset with me because...
1078
01:12:07,856 --> 01:12:11,497
Because I made her walk so much
1079
01:12:11,593 --> 01:12:13,266
to get into Wembley.
1080
01:12:15,631 --> 01:12:19,306
But I think I couldn't have a...
1081
01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:22,475
A better game of football.
1082
01:12:33,449 --> 01:12:35,451
And Paul, in that match, was magnificent,
1083
01:12:35,818 --> 01:12:39,356
and he scored one of the goals
that belongs to...
1084
01:12:39,421 --> 01:12:42,868
To his fantastic history.
1085
01:12:46,528 --> 01:12:49,168
Forward to Paul Gascoigne,
who made a brilliant run.
1086
01:12:49,264 --> 01:12:51,141
And that's superb!
1087
01:12:51,233 --> 01:12:52,712
What a goal!
1088
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:58,418
I still think to this day it's the most
iconic England goal of all time.
1089
01:13:02,911 --> 01:13:07,155
I think his vision, his creativity,
the composure, the skill.
1090
01:13:13,088 --> 01:13:15,728
Finishing it the way he did and then
the celebration as well,
1091
01:13:15,824 --> 01:13:19,533
I think it's all rolled into a fantastic goal.
1092
01:13:23,499 --> 01:13:27,641
Before the game, I said
to the guys, I went, "Listen, whoever scores,
1093
01:13:27,703 --> 01:13:30,377
"get on your back and pretend
you're doing the dentist chair.
1094
01:13:30,472 --> 01:13:33,112
"Someone get the Lucozade bottles
and squeeze it in you."
1095
01:13:33,175 --> 01:13:36,156
You know, just to wind up the press,
have a go back at them and that.
1096
01:13:40,115 --> 01:13:43,187
It was ironic that I scored it.
So it was perfect.
1097
01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:01,347
I think it was a case of Paul
just proving them wrong, which was a doddle.
1098
01:14:05,507 --> 01:14:08,010
It was just unfortunate
that it was Lucozade and not gin.
1099
01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:10,954
Because I would have played better then.
1100
01:14:49,551 --> 01:14:52,498
Who said to me that I never
had a laugh when I was drinking?
1101
01:14:54,089 --> 01:14:56,899
I've had great times when I've been
drinking with the guys.
1102
01:14:56,992 --> 01:14:59,529
Having a game of dominos and pool
and stuff like that.
1103
01:14:59,628 --> 01:15:02,700
It was when sometimes I sit alone
and I have a drink,
1104
01:15:02,764 --> 01:15:05,370
and then, that was when
I can be dark and depressing.
1105
01:15:09,137 --> 01:15:13,517
I just had bad little blips
where I'm not Paul any more.
1106
01:15:13,575 --> 01:15:16,579
I'm not Gazza. I'm not Paul Gascoigne.
I'm just, like...
1107
01:15:16,645 --> 01:15:18,556
I'm just alone.
1108
01:15:20,415 --> 01:15:22,053
Which I sometimes don't like.
1109
01:15:26,455 --> 01:15:28,992
I have been close to death twice,
I must admit.
1110
01:15:29,725 --> 01:15:34,265
But I managed to pull through
and it's an illness I have and...
1111
01:15:34,329 --> 01:15:36,138
I've probably got it for the rest of my life.
1112
01:15:38,734 --> 01:15:41,271
It's whether I accept it or not.
1113
01:15:41,336 --> 01:15:45,011
Sometimes I find it hard
and sometimes I find it really easy.
1114
01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:47,280
I know how to stay sober
and I know how to relapse.
1115
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:49,780
I'm good at both, really.
1116
01:15:58,687 --> 01:16:01,497
Good evening.
The News of the World phone hacking scandal
1117
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:04,833
started as one bad apple,
a rogue journalist or maybe two,
1118
01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:08,466
who'd taken their supposed
investigations a little too far.
1119
01:16:09,631 --> 01:16:11,440
Today, the dam broke.
1120
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:19,615
A few years ago and something
happened with my phone a lot.
1121
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:23,349
I remember calling my dad up
and we'll get cut off.
1122
01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:25,449
And my dad says
there's something wrong with his phone.
1123
01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:28,153
"Well, there's something up,"
and I said, "I wonder if I'm getting tapped."
1124
01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,798
Then I remember speaking to my mum once,
and it come out in the papers.
1125
01:16:35,857 --> 01:16:37,427
And so I went to my mum saying,
1126
01:16:37,492 --> 01:16:39,597
"What the fuck are you doing?
Why are you speaking to the papers?
1127
01:16:39,661 --> 01:16:42,835
"Mum, you're the only one I've told,
I've not talked to anybody."
1128
01:16:42,898 --> 01:16:45,640
And she got upset and she went,
"I haven't." I says, "You have."
1129
01:16:45,701 --> 01:16:49,547
I says, "Mum you are the only I've just
said it to.” I didn't speak to her for a week.
1130
01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:54,351
And then I spoke to my dad
and then that come out in the papers.
1131
01:16:54,409 --> 01:16:56,821
So I went off...
Well, I didn't go off with my dad.
1132
01:16:56,912 --> 01:16:58,323
I just never went off on him.
1133
01:16:58,513 --> 01:17:01,926
I just went, "Dad, have you spoke
to the papers? Are you selling a story on us?"
1134
01:17:02,551 --> 01:17:05,259
And it was embarrassing for me to do that
and then I started drinking.
1135
01:17:05,354 --> 01:17:09,200
Drinking too much.
And then, I started getting paranoid.
1136
01:17:11,927 --> 01:17:14,134
I didn't speak to my family for a few months.
1137
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:18,136
I didn't speak to anybody.
I just started drinking.
1138
01:17:19,534 --> 01:17:21,946
And that's the time when I took coke,
1139
01:17:22,037 --> 01:17:24,881
and this was about 11 years ago
and I was doing that.
1140
01:17:25,340 --> 01:17:28,082
And then I went to the spy shop
and I bought gadgets.
1141
01:17:28,176 --> 01:17:29,416
A lot of money's worth.
1142
01:17:29,511 --> 01:17:32,117
So I kept on ringing my family
and then I started speaking to the family
1143
01:17:32,214 --> 01:17:33,659
and I says, "My phone is getting hacked."
1144
01:17:33,749 --> 01:17:35,251
“Someone's listening to
my conversations,"
1145
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:38,160
and my family went, “There's something
wrong with you. You're paranoid."
1146
01:17:41,556 --> 01:17:43,661
What I started doing was texting myself.
1147
01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:49,470
So I'd text myself and say,
"Listen, you C-U-N-T.
1148
01:17:49,564 --> 01:17:51,771
"I know what you're doing, you bastard.
1149
01:17:51,867 --> 01:17:53,574
"I'm gonna get the police on you."
1150
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:56,115
And then all of a sudden
I'd make a call and it'd be free.
1151
01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:59,209
And then a couple of weeks later
it would start again.
1152
01:18:00,475 --> 01:18:03,217
I stayed indoors. Went to a hotel.
Got out of the house because
1153
01:18:03,311 --> 01:18:05,382
I thought my house phone
was getting hacked. I went into a hotel.
1154
01:18:07,115 --> 01:18:10,562
I started drinking in the hotel
for five weeks or six weeks.
1155
01:18:11,653 --> 01:18:14,998
My family come to me then.
They seen the way I was, the state I was in.
1156
01:18:15,057 --> 01:18:17,298
They wouldn't come. They were saying,
"You drink too much"
1157
01:18:17,426 --> 01:18:19,929
And the family weren't answering
the fucking door to us.
1158
01:18:20,028 --> 01:18:22,872
They were shutting the curtains,
in case I turned up.
1159
01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:31,074
Then I got sectioned, my sister sectioned us.
"He's crazy. The guy's went crazy."
1160
01:18:40,115 --> 01:18:43,028
And, to be fair, I think she saved my life.
1161
01:18:44,419 --> 01:18:48,094
And then I rang Scotland Yard police.
I went, "This is my number.
1162
01:18:48,190 --> 01:18:51,899
"Listen to every phone call I make
for the next six month."
1163
01:18:51,993 --> 01:18:53,597
And then bang, got 'em.
1164
01:18:53,662 --> 01:18:57,269
You know, to get found that I was right,
it was a great feeling.
1165
01:18:57,332 --> 01:18:59,107
You know, it was unbelie...
1166
01:18:59,167 --> 01:19:03,343
I don't think I deserved to go through that.
And nobody does. Nobody.
1167
01:19:03,405 --> 01:19:06,875
I mean, look at the damage it did
to Princess Diana. Where is she now?
1168
01:19:06,942 --> 01:19:10,116
I didn't want the damages.
I didn't want a payment from them.
1169
01:19:10,178 --> 01:19:15,628
I just wanted to go to court and tell the judge
exactly how much they've damaged me.
1170
01:19:33,368 --> 01:19:38,681
There's no question that Gazza is
one of the most-loved people in our country.
1171
01:19:40,142 --> 01:19:42,850
Yes, he's made his mistakes,
but who doesn't?
1172
01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:49,686
I think what made him so special
1173
01:19:49,785 --> 01:19:52,698
was the lack of fear in his game.
1174
01:19:53,889 --> 01:19:57,302
That he would try anything,
he would never be scared
1175
01:19:58,460 --> 01:20:00,337
that something would go wrong.
1176
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:08,570
And probably more than anything else,
the love of showing off
1177
01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:11,947
the abilities that he had
and I think that's what lifts him apart.
1178
01:20:16,011 --> 01:20:18,321
In terms of overall, all-round player,
1179
01:20:18,413 --> 01:20:22,520
then I think none of them
can compare to Paul Gascoigne.
1180
01:20:25,220 --> 01:20:28,599
I trained with him a few times
when I was young and playing for Everton
1181
01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:30,830
and that was a great honour for me.
1182
01:20:32,327 --> 01:20:35,433
You could see the talent was incredible,
1183
01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,568
and it was great to watch up close
1184
01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:41,273
and try and learn from the greatest player
that England have had.
1185
01:20:46,341 --> 01:20:49,288
There was the one time at the...
He come in the dressing room
1186
01:20:49,344 --> 01:20:51,824
when we were in there, the youth team,
1187
01:20:51,913 --> 01:20:56,692
and he asked if any of the players
were going out later on that night.
1188
01:20:56,785 --> 01:21:00,597
So I was the only one who said I was.
1189
01:21:00,655 --> 01:21:04,296
So he gave me £40 to go out.
1190
01:21:06,628 --> 01:21:09,040
Again, it shows his character. What he is.
1191
01:21:09,097 --> 01:21:12,977
And I don't think there's any other player
in the Everton dressing room at the time
1192
01:21:13,068 --> 01:21:17,073
who would've come in and even
spoke to us as a group of young players.
1193
01:21:19,341 --> 01:21:21,321
I'll have to give him that £40 back.
1194
01:21:31,419 --> 01:21:35,060
He was what he was as a player.
He is what he is as a man.
1195
01:21:36,258 --> 01:21:37,999
200 miles per hour,
1196
01:21:39,194 --> 01:21:42,607
and when you go so fast, it's dangerous.
1197
01:21:42,931 --> 01:21:45,912
Obviously, his career could be even better
1198
01:21:45,967 --> 01:21:48,379
if he was supported in a different way.
1199
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:50,950
The clubs, they are much more ready
1200
01:21:51,006 --> 01:21:53,987
to support players
and to bring players in the right direction.
1201
01:21:54,109 --> 01:21:58,353
But, in the end of the day,
I like always to think
1202
01:21:58,580 --> 01:22:01,857
that he enjoyed
1203
01:22:02,617 --> 01:22:05,427
every moment of his career.
1204
01:22:05,487 --> 01:22:08,900
So, I don't know,
if it was better to be even a better player
1205
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:12,836
but don't enjoy so much
or to be what he was as a player
1206
01:22:12,894 --> 01:22:16,899
but enjoy career as much as you do.
1207
01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:25,911
I loved the buzz of going out
and hearing the roar
1208
01:22:25,974 --> 01:22:28,079
and they've singing your name, you know?
1209
01:22:28,143 --> 01:22:30,020
Give them a goal in the top corner
1210
01:22:30,612 --> 01:22:34,059
and you get the lads jumping around you,
and they're buzzing and shaking your hand
1211
01:22:34,182 --> 01:22:38,255
and It's just one big fairy tale
which eventually comes to an end.
1212
01:22:46,494 --> 01:22:49,941
Me and my life, I would
probably like to be remembered
1213
01:22:50,765 --> 01:22:55,441
for being the Paul Gascoigne
that people have met throughout my life.
1214
01:22:55,503 --> 01:22:58,143
I'd like to think the people around us,
I'd made them proud,
1215
01:22:58,206 --> 01:23:02,313
made myself proud, and everybody else
that was involved with my life, proud.
1216
01:23:02,377 --> 01:23:04,186
My mum and dad, especially.
1217
01:23:07,115 --> 01:23:08,116
Yes.
1218
01:23:13,788 --> 01:23:16,928
- Thank you.
- Cheers.
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