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[JEREMY] I often wonder about the nature of reality.
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About our relationshipto the creative force
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that forge the particles of our stars
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and intertwine them with the moleculesof our bodies.
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Who are we?
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And where are weactually sitting
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within the architectureof our universe?
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Are we alone?
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Or is the answer simply stranger than we can think?
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My name is Jeremy Corbell.
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I seek to weaponizeyour curiosity.
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And if you're ready to suspend your own prejudice,
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welcome to the worldof extraordinary beliefs.
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[indistinct talk]
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[dark music playing]
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[groaning]
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[clock ticking]
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[Patient Seventeen]
I'm just so tired
of all this already.
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My world will not
be turned upside down.
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I just wanna live my life.
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I mean, who would
wanna relive this?
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Either people are gonna
believe you or you don't.
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It's kind of put meon the edge again.
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Dr. Roger Leir didconfirm I was gonna bepatient Number Seventeen.
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[Jeremy] So you're gonnaget this thing out?
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[Patient Seventeen]
That's whathe's telling me.
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[Jeremy] And what did you knowof Dr. Leir before?
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[Patient Seventeen]
Absolutely nothing.
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I knew nothing about Dr. Leiruntil I was introduced.
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[motorcycle riding by]
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[Jeremy] Would you consideryour life to have beencompletely normal
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up until the point whereyou've engaged these peopleinterested in your story?
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[Patient Seventeen]
My life has been normal,
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but it did getthrown into a stormonce I met these UFO folks.
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When Dr. Leir and hisassociates told me thatthis could be an implant,
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now it's all been broughtback up to the surface.
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Wondering whetherI'm seeing shadows
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or is there missing time?
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Is this scarier than hell?
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[Jeremy] So you've metDr. Leir. Do you trust him?
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[Patient Seventeen]
I don't trust anybody intoday's world.
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I just want all this to end.I just want it removed.
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I don't have to worry abouta piece of metal floatingaround in my body.
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[crickets chirping]
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[static noises]
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[various station noises]
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[peppy tune playing]
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[radio host]
Good evening, everyone.
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You're in the right placeat the right time.
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This is Coast to Coast AM.
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We're gonna be joinedby Dr. Roger Leir,
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one of the mostimportant leaders
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in the search forphysical evidencein the field of ufology.
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As listeners of this programknow, he's been on theprogram many times.
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He and his surgical teamhave performed all kindsof surgeries
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on alleged alien abductees.
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[static noises]
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[birds chirping]
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[Dr. Leir] This mysteryis kind of likea musical composition.
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If you're missinga note or two,
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you probably wouldn't beable to make sense of it all.
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[playing the piano]
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[♪]
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[Jeremy] I was recentlyintroduced to a surgeon
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who claimsto remove implants,
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nanotechnology, microchips,embedded by aliens.
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Non-humansmonitoring our earth.
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He talked about abductions,scalar wave transmissions
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and a program to studyor manipulate the human race.
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Armed with a patient,a scalpel, black lights,and a stud finder,
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I was eager to verifythe authenticityof this alleged
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offworld implant technology.
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It's not broadcasting
in this electromagnetic
spectrum at all,
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but it's using
scalar wave technology...
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and then when we use our
electromagnetic devices,
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and pick up a radio wave,
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we're actually
reading a harmonic.
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
It would be
right about here,
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I feel something vaguely.
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Whether that's the foreign
material or not, I don't know.
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We've got the X-ray
with us right here.
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If we lay it down on his leg,
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you see this little spot here
that shows through.
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[Dr. Leir] Yeah.
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So it would be about here.
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So, you know, sometimes you
talk yourself into something,
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you're not sure if you
really feel it or no.
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But you have to know it
when you're gonna do it.
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[digital beeps]
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[Dr. Leir] It's gotta be
right there.
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We have optics anyway, right?
You have ultrasound optics?
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
Right here. Yeah.
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I'll show him
while I do the ultrasound.
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We're not gonna guess that.
We're gonna find out.
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This is the ultrasound
goo, so,
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I'm gonna strip and down this.
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[Jeremy] So, Dr. Leir,
what are we
experiencing right now?
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Well, we're using ultrasound
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to try and locate the exact
position of the object.
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It's not easy 'cause
it's not only superficial,
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but it's also close
to the bone.
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So we're using ultrasound
to try and locate it.
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That's it, right there.
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[Dr. Leir] Yeah.
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Are you sure, doctor?
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For me, this will
still be a fifty
if you just cut 'em.
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[all laughing]
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[Dr. Leir] We're goingto draw the patient's blood,
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and then we'll put itin a centrifuge
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and spin it down and separatethe cellular portion ofthe blood from the liquid.
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And then, thatcellular portion
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is then mixed with an anticoagulant preservative,
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and that's what we actually useto split the object down.
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Then when we take out
small pieces of the
surrounding tissue,
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that goes into
a pathology lab.
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The objects, undoubtedly,
are some form of metal.
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So that goes into a
metallurgical process
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one step at a time,
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while we're looking at it
under an electron microscope,
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and some other test
that we do to look
for isotopes
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and non-terrestriality.
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[Jeremy] Non-terrestriality.
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It is alleged that many ofthese mysterious objects
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that Dr. Leir and his teamhave removed,
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display bizarre characteristics,
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such as having nanotopography,
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and metallic composition described by some labs
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as "exotic meteorite material,"
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not having being forged in the furnace of our own sun.
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I don't think that
you've been
abducted recently...
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No.
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[Jeremy] As a surgeon,
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I know it's not your position
to speculate on the origin
of this object,
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but obviously, you know
the story going around that
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maybe there is
a correlation between
the abduction phenomena
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and these types of objects.
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Well, it's interesting...
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I mean, I don't know
if you wanna quote me
on this, but...
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I just don't
believe it's alien.
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I believe it's some earthly
particle that's from some
carpentry thing.
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They whacked something,
a little piece of metal flew
off and stuck in them.
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They don't remember it
'cause it was so tiny.
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And then those people...
Enough people have 'em.
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People with
abducted experiences
also may have the metal.
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So I don't know.
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He's doing the analysis
on the metal, so... I'm not.
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And that's where
the things come in.
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I would reanalyze the metal,
have another group
of analyzers to look at it,
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if it was me doing it.
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[Jeremy]
A foreign object wasabout to be removed
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from a mancarrying this burden for over a decade.
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Nefarious implant byan extraterrestrialbig brother
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or a piece ofchildhood shrapnel?
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I personally wanted tosee what this foreignobject was made of.
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This piece of metal is in my
leg... or whatever it is...
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it's been there for
God knows how long.
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So, it'd be nice to yank it out,
do the experiments on it,
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and see what it is.
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[Patient Seventeen]
I have some people in my lifethat just shake their heads
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my girlfriend, my mom,and a few other people,
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are just saying,"Don't let him do it."
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It's a small incision.
It's not like they're
going into my lung.
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A few stitches, and it's a
pretty simple procedure.
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[Jeremy] Small incision,
big mystery.
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Yes.
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[Jeremy] Were you surprisedwhen they usedthe device for frequency?
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That what was in your legseemed to be emittinga frequency?
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That's pretty amazing.
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If that test is accurate,
well, this is really
an implant.
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Just by fluke we found it.
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One thing led to anotherand here we are today.
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[Jeremy] It sounds likeyou've had somepowerful experiences.
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It at least led you toentertaining the idea
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that they are non-humans,they are visiting the planet,
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and that they areengaging humanity.
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[Patient Seventeen]
The memorieswere as a child.
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I thought I had a coupleof abductions.
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My parents put locks
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high on the door whenI was a young guy
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so I wouldn't drown in the pool.
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And they'd find me outsideand the locks were still on.
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I remember waking up
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and being elevated on my back, straight up,
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and feeling my nightgownbeing pulled back, andmy thoughts were...
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I'm really going up quick.
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You can feel the clothes on your body beingpulled back.
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So that was likethe last time.
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This felt like they wereup to no good.
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[Jeremy] Have you ever seen a UFO?
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[Patient Seventeen] No.
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[Jeremy] Never have?
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[Patient Seventeen]
Not that I remember.
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There's no insanity in my family and we'rehealthy as larks.
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I mean, this has...somehow happened.
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
That's my little incision.
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We spread it a little bit.
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Now the question is,
is it next to the skin or
is it next to the fascia?
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I think it's close to both.
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[Dr. Leir] Probably.
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Probably. I think it's
subcutaneous. So...
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It's probably between
the skin and the fascia.
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
Look at it.
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It's a little metal,
that thing.
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Let's see if I
can feel a click.
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No.
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Sometimes you can find it
just by a little click.
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No.
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[Dr. Leir] Usually...
what was that?
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[Jeremy] As I watchedhopeful believers
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slice an opening into the flesh-suit ofa living man,
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I began to reflecton exactly whatwas going on.
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An alleged abductee, patient Number Seventeen,
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standing at over six foot nine inches tall,
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was a human monolith,a force of nature.
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And like the oldcowboys of past,
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an absolutely honest man.
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One of those people,soft-spoken, stoic,
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who was genuinelylooking for answers
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to questions that have plagued him since childhood.
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And all I could think was...
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"What the fuck isabout to be pulledout of this man's leg?"
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
Can you see it?
Little spot there?
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-Oh, yeah, there it is.
-The black spot.
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-Yeah, right there.
-That is it.
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[Dr. Matrisciano]
It looks a little
bigger now. See.
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So we'll get rid of
some of the surrounding
tissue around it.
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[Dr. Leir] No wonder it was
so invisible in ultrasound.
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It wasn't very big.
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Wow.
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[Dr. Matrisciano] So that is
the entire thing right there.
I'll put it right here.
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Right there, with a shot
of white around. Little better.
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Here. I'll show it to you.
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That's the whole thing.
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[Dr. Leir] I'll seal it
around with a sponge.
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We'll put
the soft tissue
around that,
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and then that should
go on the serum.
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So do you wanna get
a close-up of this?
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Don't put it in anything
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till I dissect
all the tissue.
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[indistinct talk]
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[Dr. Leir]
I'll leave a little piece
of soft tissue on there,
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so that when we use things
like electron microscope,
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which we'll do at Seal Labs,
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that soft tissue
will show up under
the electron microscope.
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[Jeremy] So, Roger,
it was a success today?
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Oh, yeah. I'm very happy
with the results that we got
today, you know.
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The object
as it appeared...
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went through
all the testing,
we got it out,
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and now we're
gonna look at it
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and see what, both,
the biological and
the metallurgical
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components are...
that it's made.
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And that will determine
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whether we have something
that's out of the rose garden
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or something that's
non-terrestrial.
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[Jeremy] Do not underestimate the cosmo-politics
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of an alleged alienimplant removal surgery.
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Word had spread and many faithful arrivedwith camcorders,
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and floodedthe waiting room with anticipation.
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Patient Number Seventeenquietly made his exitthrough the back door,
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avoiding the crowd
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that had formedto glimpse that whichis yet to be explained.
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[Dr. Leir] Just as I'mlearning more aboutmusic and harmonics,
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I'm also learning more
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about the natureof the cosmosand reality.
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[Jeremy] When traversinguncharted territories
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and exploring allegedand advanced nano-cybernetictransmitters,
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believed to have beenembedded into a human host
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to monitor unknown rhythms, fields,and energies
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to transmit scalar wavefrequencies to beingswith hidden intentions,
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who either traversespace-time...
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or dimensionallyshift into a reality.
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There are key momentsin your investigation
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that require a monumentalleap of faith.
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Or, of course,you can just goto your local
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scanning electron microscopy
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lab to actually seewhat it is that you have.
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My name is Steve Colbern.
I'm a material scientist.
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I work on carbon nanotubes.
That's my primary job.
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And I'm Roger's
head scientist
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in the A&S Research
organization that
he founded.
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[Dr. Leir]
Must be stuck someplace.
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There it is.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Jeremy] This is
the official testing
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of the foreign body
that was removed from you.
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Are you curious about it?
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Absolutely.
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-What do you--
-A mystery.
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[Jeremy] It is a mystery.
Do you think we'll
solve it today?
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Yes, we will.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Jeremy] Is it shining
on the inside, Steve?
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Yeah, we see metal.
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-Cool.
-We got metal.
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All right.
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Let's put it back up.
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[Dr. Leir] Do you wanna
remount it so that we
got it sitting up on end?
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Test it with a Gauss Meter?
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[Dr. Leir] That
would be a good idea.
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Hold on, Steve.
Gauss Meter test.
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Bring it up. Just hold it
straight up.
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Okay.
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-We're getting a little bit.
-A little bit.
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Not much.
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[whirring]
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[high-pitched noise]
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[Jeremy] With the powerto look at the object atalmost the atomic level,
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an alien landscape emerged,
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similar to topographical surveys
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of our starcelestial satellites
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orbiting our solar center.
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Structures and shapesbegan to take formwithin my mind.
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Spectral analysis, seeking explanationof composition,
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measurements of featureswhich looked likemountains and valleys
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were takenwith great precision.
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I was hopeful that today,
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patient Number Seventeenwould be given some answers.
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[indistinct talk]
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[Jeremy] So, Roger,
is there anything
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that surprised you so far
from today's analysis?
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Yes.
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That the visualization
of something that may be
a carbon nanotube,
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at a low magnification,
it's kind of...
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[Jeremy] And what would prove
that it's a carbon nanotube?
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Well, when we look at
the chemical components,
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which is the peaks
on the screen,
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we can see that
on that particular one,
it's all carbon.
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Then we'll have to go on
with other testing.
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It's called
Raman spectroscopy,
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and a couple of
other tests
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will determine actually
if it is a carbon nanotube.
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[Jeremy] Will you be able
to do that today?
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No.
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[Jeremy] Your first look
at what, you know, they
pulled out of you.
335
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What are your thoughts?
336
00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:49,516
This is interesting.
I say it still could be just
a rock from childhood
337
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or it could be
a meteorite piece
from space.
338
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You'll just never know
until a breakdown.
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[Jeremy] What you're saying is,
"I'm just trying to figure out
what this is."
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The mechanics of this...
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I consider myself a Christian,
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and if this thing's some
space alien deal,
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it kind of blows everything
I believed in for the last
50 years out of the water.
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I mean...
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Technically, I mean,
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God doesn't go around
implanting people.
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And earth...
348
00:22:20,964 --> 00:22:22,424
Well, I mean, this just...
349
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kinda puts Christianity under
question of, is it true or not?
350
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In a way, I hope this is
just a rock or something
from the past,
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for my beliefs. But if it is,
I'll kinda start rethinking...
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[Jeremy] Would it shake
the foundations of your faith
353
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if this was something from
another intelligent species?
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00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:43,945
It could.
355
00:22:44,404 --> 00:22:45,447
Definitely.
356
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,202
[Jeremy] Did you feel
that we saw something
anomalous today?
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[Steve] Yeah, it was
definitely anomalous
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and it was very similar
to several other objects
that we've seen
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that were earlier
from rock observations.
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00:22:58,376 --> 00:23:00,629
The nerve cells grow
into the membrane.
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00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:04,091
This membrane forms
the interface between
the neurosystem
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00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:05,967
and the electronics
of the device.
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00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,221
[Jeremy] What can you say
implicitly from today?
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00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:14,351
That it's probably
a sophisticated
nanotechnogical device,
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00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,562
rather than just
a fragment of something.
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00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,900
These devices seem to be
deliberately inserted
into people,
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00:23:21,983 --> 00:23:23,318
a portal of entry,
368
00:23:23,401 --> 00:23:26,446
and there is never an
inflammatory response
to the objects,
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which is highly unusual
and unheard of.
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00:23:29,032 --> 00:23:31,451
So, when we get
the path report back,
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that will tell
a tale as well
372
00:23:34,037 --> 00:23:37,958
as to whether it's
one of these anomalous
objects we've seen before.
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My working hypotheseswith these are
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nanotechnological devicesfrom off-planet
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that have been perfectedby some society
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00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:50,804
that has had this technology for a very long time.
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00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:54,599
We sent half the objectin for ICP-MS analysis,
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00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:57,644
and that will give ussome isotopic ratios
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00:23:57,727 --> 00:23:59,980
and tell us whetherthe material isfrom off-planet.
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00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:08,113
[Patient Seventeen]
I mean, everybody wants
381
00:24:08,196 --> 00:24:10,365
to squeeze everylast bit of information
382
00:24:10,448 --> 00:24:13,702
of every piece of evidencethey can possibly get
383
00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:16,705
to try to solve the puzzle of what's going on.
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00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,423
[Jeremy]
While the scientific team
385
00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:29,384
was busy analyzingthe composition, structures,
386
00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:33,889
and isotopic ratios of the surgically-removedmystery object,
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00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:37,100
I decided to meet up with patientNumber Seventeen,
388
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,562
and find out more abouthis abductive experiences
389
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,940
and his post-operationstate of mind.
390
00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,151
[Jeremy] Do you think that this is sinister?
391
00:24:46,234 --> 00:24:50,322
Like when you sawthe eyes of those threeoval-headed alien dudes,
392
00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,491
that you tried to tackle,in Las Vegas.
393
00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,077
You said that
you could tell
it was sinister,
394
00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:57,287
you could tell it was--
395
00:24:57,412 --> 00:24:59,956
They're not there to take you
out for pizza, that's for sure.
396
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,418
I mean, they are there
to manipulate you somehow.
397
00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:07,088
Not to save you or give
the cure for cancer.
398
00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:09,090
They have
their own agendas.
399
00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:13,136
And if they didn't,
it would be
disclosed already.
400
00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:16,348
I mean, there has to be
something behind this
to keep it this quiet.
401
00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,600
[Jeremy] Where did you
come to that understanding?
402
00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:21,853
Of course, their appearances
are disturbing,
403
00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,398
but the sense... like
when you meet somebody
that's nice and friendly,
404
00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:26,900
you know, hey,
it's a nice person.
405
00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:31,488
These three people...
things, in my room,
you just knew.
406
00:25:31,571 --> 00:25:33,698
Well, they're in your house
without your permission,
407
00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:36,660
you know they're about to,
maybe, take you somewhere
408
00:25:36,743 --> 00:25:38,036
and do whatever
they want with you,
409
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,788
I mean, how can that
be a good thing?
410
00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:41,831
There is no way
they rang the doorbell,
411
00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:44,417
and said, "Hey, we're
from outer space.
Wanna have a beer?"
412
00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:45,961
I mean, they're...
413
00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,172
They're gangsters,
you know.
414
00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,508
Alien gangsters are doingwhat they want.
415
00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:57,639
God knows what they're doing
to people. At least I was
caught and released.
416
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,141
[Jeremy] What would you
say to an alien
417
00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:02,102
that was trying
to abduct you,
if you could?
418
00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:05,063
I don't know
if I'd say anything
419
00:26:05,146 --> 00:26:07,399
rather than just treat
him like any burglar
420
00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:10,151
that was trying
to break into my house
and mess with my family.
421
00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:12,988
I'll shoot him dead
and I'll take him down.
422
00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:14,823
I mean, I think...
423
00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:16,616
they're criminals,
424
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,326
they're doing
what they want,
425
00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:21,579
and a lot
of cruel things
to people,
426
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:26,751
and it'd be nice for...
a little payback.
427
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,795
'Cause this is unreasonable.
428
00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:30,922
How many abductees
do you really need?
429
00:26:31,047 --> 00:26:33,466
How many people's lives
do you have to ruin?
430
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:35,468
I mean, man up.
431
00:26:35,593 --> 00:26:37,679
Show your face or take off.
432
00:26:38,346 --> 00:26:40,098
And for them to, you know,
433
00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:43,351
always take you
on a deserted road,
or late at night,
434
00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:45,520
they are obviously
cowards on top of it.
435
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:47,981
So they're criminals,
they're cowards.
436
00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:54,863
If they're that advanced,
they should just talk to us
and explain things out,
437
00:26:54,946 --> 00:26:58,366
and comfort us,
rather than...
438
00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:02,037
Like mean little kids
with a magnifying glass
439
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,747
frying ants on a sunny day.
440
00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:05,749
I mean, cowards.
441
00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:07,834
So, "Leave me alone."
442
00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:11,379
And, "I hope I can take
one of you out when
it's possible."
443
00:27:11,671 --> 00:27:14,424
[Jeremy] You fought back
against these alien gangsters.
444
00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:15,717
I mean, you did, that day.
445
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,843
Yep.
446
00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:19,596
I was ready
to duke it out with them.
447
00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:22,599
For some reason they just
didn't wanna deal with it,
448
00:27:22,724 --> 00:27:26,811
but I was able
to break that trance.
449
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,314
It's really a weird feeling.
You can't move.
450
00:27:29,397 --> 00:27:32,150
I was like, there's
no way this is happening
to me tonight.
451
00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:36,488
And I was able to get up
and go for it. Yeah.
452
00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:38,448
That was pretty amazing,
to tell you the truth.
453
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,033
'Cause most people can't.
454
00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:41,493
So I was able
to break through.
455
00:27:41,576 --> 00:27:47,499
So they have weaknesses
that you can break through,
apparently.
456
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:50,251
[Jeremy] Are you
saying to me that
457
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,963
you feel strongly
that the experiences
you had were real?
458
00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:57,592
[Patient Seventeen]
The experiences in childhoodare real memories.
459
00:27:58,426 --> 00:28:00,678
And what happened in Vegas
460
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:03,640
with the two abductions
were real.
461
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,768
But the fine details
aren't there.
462
00:28:06,851 --> 00:28:09,354
Like I said in
earlier conversations.
463
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,940
I mean, they are doing
mental blocks on people
464
00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:15,193
'cause they know how
frightening it is for the human
race to deal with all this,
465
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,779
but they still feel
like we do with
test animals,
466
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:19,447
they can do what
they want with us.
467
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,950
[Jeremy] Do you feel that
you were given a mental block
468
00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,077
from the experiences
that you had?
469
00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:25,036
Absolutely.
470
00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:28,289
There's no other way
they could have made me
forget about it.
471
00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:31,584
So however that's done,
I'm glad that's possible,
472
00:28:32,001 --> 00:28:34,838
'cause just knowing
they were there in my room,
473
00:28:34,921 --> 00:28:36,965
from childhood,
sometimes as
a young adult,
474
00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:39,509
and with this
possible implant,
475
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,720
you kind of feel violated.
476
00:28:41,845 --> 00:28:43,680
I mean, these people
are, like, kidnapping you.
477
00:28:44,347 --> 00:28:46,433
You can believe
what you want...
478
00:28:48,643 --> 00:28:50,645
but unless you get
other people to believe, too,
479
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,230
it just seems
like a fairy tale.
480
00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:57,652
It means nothing.
You know... but if
you tell people the story,
481
00:28:57,777 --> 00:29:01,406
they look at you like
you're crazy or
you're a fool,
482
00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:05,076
or your religious friends
think you're going
to the dark side
483
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,620
'cause if there's aliens,
there's no God,
484
00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:10,206
which means you're
an atheist or something, so...
485
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,419
Everybody has
their opinion on this.
486
00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:16,296
You know, with
all this going on,
487
00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:17,589
I'm just like
a normal guy
488
00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:20,884
with extraordinary
experiences
489
00:29:20,967 --> 00:29:23,011
that can't reallybe explained.
490
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:24,763
You know you'vegone throughthem, but...
491
00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,851
unless you meet
other abductees, or somebody
in the line of work,
492
00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:31,227
nobody believes you.
493
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:33,396
Nobody really cares.
494
00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:36,816
And they really just
wanna put their
fingers in their ears
495
00:29:37,525 --> 00:29:38,735
and walk away.
496
00:29:38,818 --> 00:29:40,487
They're just afraid
of the truth, maybe.
497
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,113
And then, when it happens to them,
498
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:45,658
or they know somebodypersonally that thisstuff happens to,
499
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,327
then they open their eyes.
500
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,748
Everybody thought thatthe world was flat at one time.
501
00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:54,209
Those folksdon't want it to be true,
502
00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:55,960
or they're afraid of the truth.
503
00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:59,631
They just weren't nightmares.They were real.
504
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:04,636
[Jeremy] I joinedpatient Number Seventeen
505
00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,222
for his post-operativeevaluation.
506
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,474
We were to confirmwith X-ray
507
00:30:09,557 --> 00:30:12,977
that the entire foreign object was successfully removed
508
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,313
and that the patientwas healing properly.
509
00:30:15,563 --> 00:30:19,108
As Dr. Leir explained thatthis surgery was a success,
510
00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,860
I started to get the sense
511
00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:24,572
that patient Number Seventeenwas slightly agitated.
512
00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:27,450
I guess you guys haven't
analyzed the material yet.
513
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,662
Well, not any more
than we did at Seal Labs.
514
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:33,623
Not every lab
does every test.
515
00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:35,458
[Patient Seventeen]
But when I was talking
to Richard,
516
00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:37,502
he was saying it's
just a sliver of steel
517
00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:40,964
with cotton bits on it
from the band-aid when
they pulled it out.
518
00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:42,715
No.
519
00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:47,846
We can see you're
completely devoid of metal.
520
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,265
Post-operatively...
521
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:53,560
I would say,
about two weeks.
522
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,940
And evidently, we have
523
00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:03,862
definitively removed
the object that was
there before.
524
00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:06,948
There's no pieces left
of the object.
525
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,785
So it was removed,
what we call, in total,
526
00:31:11,077 --> 00:31:13,705
which means
the whole thing
was excised.
527
00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:18,960
Ever had a case
where you've had multiple
objects in a person?
528
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:21,546
We did two surgeries
on the same day.
529
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:26,593
And that gentleman had one
in the back of his hand
530
00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:30,013
that was also
a little rod,
531
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,931
kind of a little
C-shaped object.
532
00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:34,309
And then we had
a whole string of them
533
00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:36,728
that were about the same
that looked like yours.
534
00:31:38,104 --> 00:31:40,231
So I can still be tagged
somewhere else.
535
00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:41,190
Yeah.
536
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,444
There are these memories
I have already, as a child,
537
00:31:44,527 --> 00:31:47,405
and then, in Las Vegas,
a couple of visits
was enough for me.
538
00:31:47,488 --> 00:31:50,283
It was just
frightening to see
539
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:53,077
these images...
I mean, you just...
540
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:54,913
I mean...
541
00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:56,581
it's just frightening.
542
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,499
I mean, you just know
it's out of this world.
543
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,003
[Dr. Leir]
Most people want to remember.
544
00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,010
You're kind of over it,
it sounds like.
545
00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:11,012
[Jeremy] I just wannaget back to my life
546
00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:14,766
of joining my familyand riding my dirt bikes,
547
00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:15,892
and move on.
548
00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:18,186
We'll get the datahere shortly,
549
00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:20,146
and see what it's made out of,
550
00:32:20,229 --> 00:32:22,065
and should begame over.
551
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:24,776
We'll know,one way or another, whatthe deal was with my leg.
552
00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:31,449
[static noises]
553
00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:41,501
[peppy tune playing]
554
00:32:46,214 --> 00:32:49,133
[radio host]
Good evening, everyone.This is Coast to Coast AM.
555
00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:52,679
We have sad newsto report tonight.
556
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:56,391
Prominent UFO researcher, Dr. Roger Leirhas passed away
557
00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,642
due to a heart attack.
558
00:32:58,518 --> 00:33:01,980
Dr. Leir was a pioneer in the investigation forphysical evidence
559
00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:03,982
of extraterrestrial contact.
560
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:06,234
Roger will be missed.
561
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:10,279
[electronic static noises]
562
00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:26,796
[Steve]
The isotopic ratios ofmost of these samples
563
00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:30,258
have been highly differentfrom the isotopic ratiosof earthly elements.
564
00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:34,637
The materials come from not only a different placein the Solar System
565
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:36,681
but a different partof our galaxy entirely.
566
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,519
[Steve] This is a juvenile of
that big one right there.
567
00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:43,813
They probably turn dark
when they get larger.
568
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:52,280
And this is
cryptocoryne plant
from the Amazon,
569
00:33:52,488 --> 00:33:54,449
and Amazon sword plant.
570
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,285
These three, and...
571
00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,620
These fish are
very aggressive.
572
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,581
They'll eat each other
given half the chance.
573
00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:05,126
So it's good to provide them
places to hide from each other.
574
00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,386
After we went to Seal Labs,
575
00:34:15,678 --> 00:34:17,972
Dr. Leir was in pretty good health at that point.
576
00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:21,976
And he had anapparent heart attack
577
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:24,270
and they found himnear death,
578
00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:27,273
and he died soon after.
579
00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:29,734
That was about
six weeks ago now.
580
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,905
It's a great lossto the UFO community.
581
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:36,199
And he was
a good friend...
582
00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:44,791
[choking voice]
He was a good friend and
a great research associate.
583
00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,357
Sorry.
584
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:32,088
Well, Dr. Leir worked hard
in pursuit of the truth,
and he...
585
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:37,969
He was striving
to bring science
to the UFO community
586
00:35:38,052 --> 00:35:43,933
and bring the scientific
method to investigate
UFO sightings.
587
00:35:44,016 --> 00:35:46,018
And he was particularly
interested in hard evidence
588
00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:48,771
of UFO sightings
and abductions.
589
00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:51,482
And that's why he got
into the implant field
590
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,861
'cause that's one of the only
ways we can get hard evidence
591
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:57,113
that people have been
visited by aliens,
592
00:35:57,196 --> 00:35:59,615
by these devices
left behind
in their bodies.
593
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:03,619
[Jeremy] Do you still have
patient Number Seventeen's
sample?
594
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:04,871
[Steve] Yes.
595
00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:13,254
[Steve] I think most peopleare like the fish.
596
00:36:13,337 --> 00:36:15,715
Most of the masses of humanity arelike the fish.
597
00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:18,009
They don't reallyknow or care
598
00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:21,304
what's outside of their immediate sphere of influence.
599
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:27,018
And we need to be better than that as a race.
600
00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:34,275
[Jeremy] What are we
looking to learn about
patient Number Seventeen?
601
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,818
[Steve] The isotopic analysis
602
00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:38,821
will tell us if the material's
from our planet, so that's
very important.
603
00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,617
[Jeremy] What if this thingis emitting frequency?
604
00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,870
There's got to be a wayto capture that data somehow.
605
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,331
The ultimate goal is
to hack the Alien Internet.
606
00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:51,042
We have reason to believe
there's a complex web
of communication
607
00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:54,587
between aliens and some
supercomputer some place.
608
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:57,131
And abductees are also
plugged into this system.
609
00:36:57,798 --> 00:37:00,426
So it's the biggest story of the 20th and 21st century.
610
00:37:00,509 --> 00:37:02,762
It's the biggest storynever told.
611
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,724
[peppy tune playing]
612
00:37:37,672 --> 00:37:39,382
[birds chirping]
613
00:38:01,862 --> 00:38:04,031
[dark tones]
614
00:38:04,615 --> 00:38:06,158
[birds chirping]
615
00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:11,789
[Jeremy] It's the waitingthat will grind you down.
616
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:15,751
It's the slow wear and tearof the mental highway.
617
00:38:17,586 --> 00:38:19,672
If it's not true,you're crazy.
618
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,882
If it is true,
619
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,302
the implicationsare even worse.
620
00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:28,514
How do we navigatean experiencethat is real to us,
621
00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,558
but will never bereal to others?
622
00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:34,061
Do we push it so far down
623
00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,939
that we can discountour own perception?
624
00:38:37,106 --> 00:38:38,983
[power tool buzzing]
625
00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:55,666
[Jeremy] It's one thingto ask a question,
626
00:38:56,542 --> 00:38:58,586
it's anotherto receive the answer.
627
00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:05,259
[inaudible]
628
00:39:05,968 --> 00:39:07,386
Is knowledge power?
629
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,681
Or can knowledge be fundamentally destructive?
630
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:14,643
[Jeremy] We've been waiting
a long time to find the broad
spectrum elemental analysis
631
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:17,605
and isotopic analysis
that you're gonna be able
to read for us
632
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:20,983
'cause we wanna know
as Patient Seventeen
who often says,
633
00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:23,736
"Is this a piece of Tonka truck
or just a rock from the ground?"
634
00:39:24,445 --> 00:39:26,155
What was it
that was taken
out of his leg?
635
00:39:26,238 --> 00:39:30,284
And this should be definitive
in some way of what it was
that was taken out,
636
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,203
if it's anomalous or not.
637
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:42,755
We got quite
a few elements here.
638
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,800
I see we have boron,
sodium, magnesium,
639
00:39:46,342 --> 00:39:48,386
aluminum, silicon, phosphorus,
640
00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:50,679
potassium, calcium,
641
00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:52,932
titanium,
642
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,226
chromium, manganese, iron.
643
00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:56,769
Iron's the major component.
644
00:39:57,686 --> 00:39:59,563
Cobalt, nickel,
copper, zinc,
645
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:01,315
gallium, germanium...
646
00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:05,277
Gallium and germanium are
indicative of the presence of
meteoric iron.
647
00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:07,530
Got arsenic, strontium,
648
00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:09,782
yttrium, it's a rare
earth element,
649
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,784
zirconium, niobium,
650
00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:13,619
molybdenum...
651
00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:15,621
Molybdenum's kind of high.
652
00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:18,999
That's the highest
I've seen in one of
these objects actually.
653
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,376
405 ppm.
654
00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:26,549
And we have some palladium,
655
00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:28,926
which is also indicative
of meteoric iron.
656
00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:33,013
There's quite a few
precious metals like
palladium, platinum,
657
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,725
rhodium, and meteoric iron.
658
00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:39,270
Lanthanum is also
a rare-earth element,
659
00:40:39,353 --> 00:40:40,396
barium,
660
00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,900
hafnium, tantalum,
tungsten, rhenium,
661
00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:49,613
thallium, lead...
662
00:40:50,322 --> 00:40:51,866
If you look
at this, Steve,
663
00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:54,243
does it look like
it's a cake-mix of...
664
00:40:54,326 --> 00:40:57,496
They could have used this
chemistry to build something
here on the planet.
665
00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:03,294
I mean, could that be a piece
of steel fragment from
something from my past or--
666
00:41:03,377 --> 00:41:05,296
Yeah, it looks like
it'd be very strong
667
00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:07,882
with iron mixed
with all these
different elements.
668
00:41:08,674 --> 00:41:10,468
One, two, three...
669
00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:13,929
We have 53 elements
in object number 15, so.
670
00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:18,601
Seems kinda complex
just to be a man-made thing.
671
00:41:18,684 --> 00:41:22,313
Do chemists actually
put this stuff together
to make steel objects here?
672
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:27,943
Yeah, this is
a lot of elements...
12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17...
673
00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:33,949
So we have a total
of 36 elements here,
so that is quite complex.
674
00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:39,622
Most industrial alloys
don't have nearly that
many elements in them.
675
00:41:42,374 --> 00:41:43,584
And...
676
00:41:44,585 --> 00:41:47,713
so I'd say this was...
677
00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:53,552
an iron alloy with
a significant amount
of meteoric iron in it.
678
00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,434
Based on this,
perhaps 25%
meteoric iron.
679
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:05,147
And then with that, some
biological HERV-prototype
coating on the outside.
680
00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:07,399
When you say
"meteorite," is it like,
681
00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:11,070
carbon, like our
whole universe
is created with,
682
00:42:11,237 --> 00:42:14,490
or is that
a common element?
Meteorite--
683
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:15,991
Meteoric iron.
684
00:42:16,825 --> 00:42:19,245
They're the cores of
planets that exploded.
685
00:42:21,914 --> 00:42:24,083
I'm still trying
to figure out--
You're the scientist,
686
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:27,711
but what made that up
687
00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:30,589
that could've been in my
everyday life instead
of the implant.
688
00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:33,717
I mean, it could have been
a piece of a nail,
689
00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:38,055
or just an ordinary rock
embedded in my shin
in the past.
690
00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:40,599
One thing that
would be good to do
691
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:43,852
when we get
more funding, is to...
692
00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,356
just take a regular nail
and analyze it
at the same lab
693
00:42:47,481 --> 00:42:48,524
and see what comes up,
694
00:42:48,607 --> 00:42:52,570
but I can almost guarantee
there'll only be about four
or five elements in it.
695
00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:56,865
And not of a complex
structure like this, so.
696
00:42:57,116 --> 00:42:59,743
I don't know if there's
any way you could have
gotten that from...
697
00:43:00,035 --> 00:43:01,745
An accident
from childhood.
698
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,455
No. Very unlikely.
699
00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:05,708
Well, there was never
an entry wound.
700
00:43:06,959 --> 00:43:09,378
No recollection of
an injury in that area.
701
00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,630
So you have no idea
how long that object
had been there?
702
00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:12,923
Could have been from childhood,
703
00:43:13,549 --> 00:43:15,968
but it started
giving problems
in 2005.
704
00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,887
Now you mention it,
I'm trying to remember
what the pain was
705
00:43:18,971 --> 00:43:21,724
'cause it felt like
a railroad spike
being driven through my leg.
706
00:43:22,474 --> 00:43:24,435
But I'm trying to remember
the point of entry.
707
00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:27,021
It could have been
in line of the pain.
708
00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:29,523
I'd be riding my motorcycle
on some mountain road,
709
00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,400
and it would start
kicking in, the pain.
710
00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:33,569
And it took
all my strength
711
00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:37,072
to stop the motorcycle
and lay on the ground
without crashing.
712
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,534
So... then it
just stopped.
713
00:43:40,784 --> 00:43:43,829
Do you think the pain was
to punish you somehow
714
00:43:43,912 --> 00:43:45,122
or to control you
or anything?
715
00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:47,458
Well, y'all know
I've been a bad boy,
716
00:43:47,541 --> 00:43:50,252
but I have
no explanation.
717
00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:52,463
[Steve]
The electron micrographs
of the object
718
00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:56,967
look very similar to
the corresponding pictures
of object number 15,
719
00:43:57,051 --> 00:44:00,304
that turned out to be
a sophisticated
nanotechnological device.
720
00:44:00,429 --> 00:44:04,933
[Jeremy] You're saying,
Steve, that this is a
highly complex alloy?
721
00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:09,021
Thirty six different elements,
some of which are rare-earth
elements.
722
00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:13,359
Yeah, it's got
410 ppm of yttrium.
723
00:44:13,484 --> 00:44:17,946
And I know for a fact
that no nail on the market's
gonna have that.
724
00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:22,534
[Jeremy] There's all these
different metals in it,
they're highly complex,
725
00:44:22,701 --> 00:44:24,870
they were fabricated,
they were put together.
726
00:44:24,953 --> 00:44:27,539
It would be highly expensive,
and probably difficult,
727
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:29,833
to make a single object
out of all these elements.
728
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:31,752
-Yeah.
-[Jeremy]
Some of which are very rare.
729
00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:34,129
[Jeremy] Some of which
are even toxic
in small amounts.
730
00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:37,424
I mean, this is
a very strange object
731
00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:40,052
in Patient Seventeen's leg,
that was taken out.
732
00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:41,345
Yeah, no doubt, man.
733
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,266
[Jeremy] You've talked to usabout the elemental analysis.
734
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:49,937
But we also specificallygot isotopic analysis.
735
00:44:51,063 --> 00:44:54,024
Every element on our earth,
or most elements on earth
736
00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:56,985
have more than one isotope.
Isotopes being...
737
00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:02,157
forms of the element
with different atomic weights
738
00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:05,244
and having different numbers
of neutrons in the nucleus.
739
00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,247
The number of protons
in the nucleus defines
what the element is,
740
00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:12,418
and the number of neutrons
in the nucleus defines
its exact atomic weight.
741
00:45:14,002 --> 00:45:17,506
So, in elements with
more than one
of these isotopes,
742
00:45:18,215 --> 00:45:23,011
there's a certain pattern,
certain ratio of the isotopes,
one to another,
743
00:45:23,095 --> 00:45:25,806
and that ratio
is characteristic
744
00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:29,017
for elements that
originate on earth.
745
00:45:29,351 --> 00:45:30,519
And...
746
00:45:30,602 --> 00:45:32,312
[Jeremy] What do you see
in the isotopes?
747
00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,398
Are they from here
or are they not?
748
00:45:35,732 --> 00:45:38,735
They were similar
to earthly
isotopic ratios,
749
00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:41,196
but off by enough,
750
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,032
or I would tend
to conclude that
it was from off-planet.
751
00:45:46,201 --> 00:45:47,453
[Jeremy] So,
you're saying that
752
00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:50,914
within these results for
the isotopic percentages,
753
00:45:51,165 --> 00:45:54,585
usually, one to two percent
could be a miscalculation?
754
00:45:55,627 --> 00:45:57,671
How many percentages
are we off by?
755
00:45:57,921 --> 00:46:00,090
Zinc-64, we're off by...
756
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,594
We're off by
about 2.5%.
757
00:46:03,677 --> 00:46:07,556
So that definitely
puts it into the for-sure
off-planet range.
758
00:46:08,015 --> 00:46:11,310
And the standard deviation
of that measurement
would be 1.25%,
759
00:46:11,393 --> 00:46:14,605
so there's not much variation
or much room for error there.
760
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:21,195
[Jeremy] So, zinc-64
and zinc-66 have
isotopic ratios
761
00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:24,198
that are definitively
not from earth?
762
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:26,617
Based on these results,
I would say yes.
763
00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:28,118
[Jeremy] It's a federal
crime to change--
764
00:46:28,202 --> 00:46:30,370
It's not like the labs
are messing around
with the data.
765
00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:32,581
-Yeah.
-And they're looking
at something
766
00:46:32,706 --> 00:46:34,333
that is not from here.
767
00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,003
Yeah, I wanna emphasize
this is not backdoor
research or anything.
768
00:46:38,086 --> 00:46:40,714
As you said, it's a federal
crime to alter these results
769
00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,257
since we did
pay for them.
770
00:46:42,841 --> 00:46:45,677
So, they're actually truly
mystery metals that are not
forged on this planet?
771
00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:47,387
If not, how do they know
what it is?
772
00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:48,805
You could forge them
in this planet,
773
00:46:48,889 --> 00:46:53,727
but the isotopic results
are pretty indicative to be
from off-planet, so...
774
00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:56,647
Well, our planet's
a meteorite. It's a chunk
off of something.
775
00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:58,815
And then a meteorite,
we think of it as this
little ball thing
776
00:46:58,899 --> 00:46:59,775
floating through space...
777
00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:02,736
[overlapping chatter]
778
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:08,200
[Patient Seventeen] Or it got
evacuated from the core
through a volcano, right?
779
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:09,910
It could be laying around,
it might--
780
00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:13,038
Well, there's parts of other
planetary cores out there
on the asteroid belt
781
00:47:13,121 --> 00:47:14,998
that are flying around
somewhere.
782
00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:21,171
Well, in my opinion,
that was a
nanotechnological device
783
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:24,174
that was probably hooked
into your nervous system,
784
00:47:24,258 --> 00:47:26,134
that's what caused the pain.
785
00:47:26,969 --> 00:47:30,264
Made of probably
meteoric iron, and...
786
00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,978
having a lot of odd
elements in it.
787
00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:39,523
Guess I'm still
in a little denial
788
00:47:39,606 --> 00:47:42,150
'cause I wasn't expecting
finding materials
in this object
789
00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:44,570
that is from
out of this world.
Not at all.
790
00:47:45,153 --> 00:47:47,114
Have you seen my report
on object number 15?
791
00:47:47,322 --> 00:47:49,366
It's similar
to your device,
792
00:47:49,449 --> 00:47:51,243
and I'll stick
my neck out a little bit,
793
00:47:51,326 --> 00:47:53,537
saying this is
probably a device.
794
00:47:53,912 --> 00:47:57,874
[Jeremy] Is it
the "Smoking Gun," as it says
in the magazine article?
795
00:47:58,542 --> 00:47:59,918
[Steve] I would say so.
796
00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:02,796
I mean, we would need
a hundred tests like this
797
00:48:02,879 --> 00:48:04,756
to convince the entire
scientific community,
798
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,927
but based on
the fact that we're
799
00:48:09,052 --> 00:48:13,557
trying to do this on,
what to them would be,
a shoestring budget,
800
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,350
I think we've got some
really good results here.
801
00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:18,478
And I think that
this is a strong indication
802
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,815
that the object is from
off-planet, and it's a
sophisticated device,
803
00:48:21,898 --> 00:48:25,569
and we need to follow up
with some more research.
804
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:27,946
I don't have any answers.
I'm still...
805
00:48:28,905 --> 00:48:31,408
a Doubting Thomas on
what this could possibly be.
806
00:48:31,491 --> 00:48:33,452
But I'm not
jumping for joy
807
00:48:33,535 --> 00:48:36,705
'cause it just affirms that
this whole story and this
adventure is true,
808
00:48:36,788 --> 00:48:39,458
and it's just been
a nightmare
since childhood.
809
00:48:39,541 --> 00:48:41,418
[Jeremy] You don'twant it to be true.
810
00:48:42,544 --> 00:48:43,378
Not really.
811
00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:45,547
It's a pain.
812
00:48:46,131 --> 00:48:49,134
And you can't talk to anybody
about it except for other
UFO people,
813
00:48:49,217 --> 00:48:51,887
and it does... You just can't
bring it up anywhere.
814
00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:54,014
The media has a taboo,
just like politics,
815
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:56,099
most people have their mind
set in a certain way.
816
00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:57,517
There's no convincing them.
817
00:48:58,226 --> 00:49:02,189
[Jeremy] How does this
make you feel? Are you
surprised by these results?
818
00:49:02,814 --> 00:49:05,651
Yes, 'cause I obviously
thought it was something
from the past.
819
00:49:05,817 --> 00:49:07,653
We don't have control
over any of this.
820
00:49:07,736 --> 00:49:09,571
We're just being
herded like cattle,
821
00:49:09,696 --> 00:49:12,324
and tagged, and who knows
what they're doing.
822
00:49:12,616 --> 00:49:15,202
It does require
a period of adjustment
823
00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:17,663
and it's a door which
you can never close again.
824
00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:27,089
[Jeremy] What happensto the ego when itconfronts the truth
825
00:49:27,214 --> 00:49:29,883
that is poised to transformour belief systems?
826
00:49:30,926 --> 00:49:34,054
And is truth itselfa matter of interpretation?
827
00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:41,770
All right.
You take care, Steve.
828
00:49:41,895 --> 00:49:43,313
-You too.
-Good seeing you.
829
00:49:43,397 --> 00:49:44,356
Good seeing you, too.
830
00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:47,150
Remember, it's an
exclusive club.
831
00:49:50,529 --> 00:49:52,531
-[Jeremy] You are patient
number fifteen?
-Yeah.
832
00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:54,324
-You never told me that.
-I didn't?
833
00:49:54,491 --> 00:49:55,534
[Jeremy] No.
834
00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:57,494
Dr. Leir didn't want me
to tell very many people.
835
00:49:57,703 --> 00:50:00,789
I was supposed to be the
scientist in this organization,
836
00:50:00,872 --> 00:50:03,166
but I went through
the whole process.
837
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,835
I've lost my marriageover this whole thing.
838
00:50:04,918 --> 00:50:06,169
That was a major factor.
839
00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:07,754
Yeah, it's been
a big deal.
840
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,424
I mean, I never would even
entertain a lot of this stuff,
841
00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:13,301
if I didn't have physical
evidence that there's
something going on.
842
00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:15,470
I've chosen to embrace it,
843
00:50:16,096 --> 00:50:18,849
in part, to get bettertreatment on the abductions.
844
00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:23,603
And there's no sensefighting. I mean, they'refar too powerful for that.
845
00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:25,939
All they have to do is turn the mental control
846
00:50:26,022 --> 00:50:27,983
up to level 7from level 3,
847
00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:29,818
and they can get you to dowhatever they want.
848
00:50:33,196 --> 00:50:35,240
[haunting tune playing]
849
00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:48,670
[Jeremy] Like Schrödinger's famous thought experiment,
850
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:54,301
I simply wanted to know if the cat in the box wasdead or alive.
851
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,345
Is this object anomalous or not?
852
00:50:58,513 --> 00:51:00,474
The facts of the analysisdo not lie,
853
00:51:01,391 --> 00:51:04,728
but the interpretation seems to be deeply subjective.
854
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,901
The hard scientific line,presupposed by the data,
855
00:51:11,276 --> 00:51:16,239
is easily bent bythe worldview developedby those who seek answers.
856
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:18,200
[piano music playing]
857
00:51:18,283 --> 00:51:20,368
Where was the doc when we needed him?
858
00:51:21,077 --> 00:51:23,288
Where was the manwho started it all?
859
00:51:24,206 --> 00:51:26,583
Was he playinghis symphony in the sky
860
00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:28,835
having found peacefrom his questions
861
00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:30,629
in the realmsof the knowing,
862
00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:34,758
while the mysteriesthat keep us mortals
863
00:51:34,841 --> 00:51:38,303
in a state of insomniaticdisturbance roll on?
864
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:40,388
[piano music playing]
865
00:51:49,314 --> 00:51:50,941
[♪]
866
00:51:59,282 --> 00:52:02,410
[Patient Seventeen]
I just wanna thank him for hisunderstanding and his help,
867
00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:05,622
and acceptanceof this whole thing.
868
00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:07,499
And...
869
00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:11,545
And it's too badhe had to pass before...
870
00:52:13,338 --> 00:52:14,589
he knew a hundred percent
871
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:17,092
what the item was, in my leg.
872
00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:20,428
So a big thank you,actually. Thanks.
873
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:47,497
[Jeremy] The next movewas to get interpretationof the data
874
00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:50,125
from a scientistknown as "Nano Man,"
875
00:52:51,334 --> 00:52:53,712
a military-fundednanophysicist
876
00:52:54,504 --> 00:52:59,050
who might be able to shinelight on our seeminglyanomalous analysis.
877
00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:04,890
Maybe he could tell meif there was anything to this data.
878
00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:10,246
[Jeremy] This came out
of a man's leg.
879
00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:12,791
There's been a lot of
kind of assumptions about it,
880
00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:14,709
but now we have
the hard physical evidence
881
00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,252
of the elemental analysis.
882
00:54:16,336 --> 00:54:19,089
I just wanted you,
as a nanophysicist,
883
00:54:19,172 --> 00:54:21,633
-to basically look at it.
-Yes.
884
00:54:21,716 --> 00:54:22,968
Is this a Tonka truck?
885
00:54:23,551 --> 00:54:24,594
No.
886
00:54:25,178 --> 00:54:27,430
This sample is not
a Tonka truck.
887
00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:31,601
It is not a rock
or a pebble
from the gravel.
888
00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:35,647
Maybe he picked up
a piece of something
in his leg
889
00:54:36,022 --> 00:54:39,025
and it's been
bothering him.
890
00:54:39,901 --> 00:54:41,695
He had a strange experience,
891
00:54:41,987 --> 00:54:44,698
and decided that
he had an implant.
892
00:54:44,781 --> 00:54:45,699
No.
893
00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:48,535
This is not a stone,
or pebble,
or a Tonka truck.
894
00:54:49,577 --> 00:54:52,789
There is nothing
I can imagine
895
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:58,670
that could explain
why this man would have
896
00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:02,257
a witches'
brew of elements
897
00:55:02,924 --> 00:55:05,218
within a sample
embedded in his leg.
898
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,636
Arsenic.
899
00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:11,266
Quite a lot of arsenic,
actually, in the sample.
900
00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:14,269
Yttrium.
901
00:55:14,394 --> 00:55:17,689
Yttrium is the material used
in making superconductors.
902
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:21,651
We have a huge amount
of yttrium inside this,
903
00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,279
and yttrium is
extremely toxic.
904
00:55:24,571 --> 00:55:27,824
Machining superconductors, you
have to wear masks and gloves
905
00:55:27,907 --> 00:55:30,535
'cause the powder
is deadly.
906
00:55:33,913 --> 00:55:35,498
There are just...
907
00:55:36,958 --> 00:55:41,963
really an astounding number
of elements here that
are quite poisonous.
908
00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:45,216
[Jeremy] Are these elementsunique in any way?
909
00:55:45,383 --> 00:55:47,010
Just the elements
themselves?
910
00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:48,178
Oh, absolutely.
911
00:55:48,553 --> 00:55:52,265
This is the most
astounding array of elements
in a single sample
912
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,933
I've ever seen.
913
00:55:54,225 --> 00:55:57,062
I have no idea
how you would
make such a thing.
914
00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:01,483
[Jeremy] Even in your world
of nanotechnology,
where you do fabricate
915
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:05,820
pretty exotic
minute-scale machines
and that kind of thing,
916
00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:08,031
this is still
interesting to you?
917
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:11,201
This object has
an elemental analysis
918
00:56:11,451 --> 00:56:13,870
of a complexity
I've never seen before.
919
00:56:14,913 --> 00:56:15,789
[Jeremy] Wow.
920
00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:21,002
This thing is fabricated
is what you're saying?
921
00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:23,922
Oh, yes. This thing
is fabricated.
922
00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:26,132
Our most complex alloys,
923
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:30,720
maybe you'll have
five different metals
924
00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:34,474
or oxides present
in an alloy.
925
00:56:34,682 --> 00:56:39,896
This sample has
an astounding array
of metals present.
926
00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:44,317
[Jeremy] We're talking aboutsomething that is highlyadvanced and fabricated
927
00:56:44,442 --> 00:56:45,985
by an intelligence.Is that correct?
928
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,112
Yes.
929
00:56:47,195 --> 00:56:48,029
[Jeremy] Straight up?
930
00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:49,280
Yes, straight up.
931
00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:53,409
This material had to be
fabricated by something,
by somebody,
932
00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:58,623
by an intelligence
that was very sophisticated.
933
00:56:59,415 --> 00:57:03,419
[Chris] Somebody went toa great deal of effort
934
00:57:03,503 --> 00:57:05,380
to create this object.
935
00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:10,468
[Jeremy] I was told
that there are four
types of isotopes
936
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,846
that are found
on earth in zinc.
937
00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:14,514
Those are the four
that there ever was?
938
00:57:14,597 --> 00:57:17,016
There is a fifth one
in very small quantity,
939
00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:20,228
but they basically
looked at the big four.
940
00:57:20,311 --> 00:57:24,065
[Jeremy] Okay. So,
they're created here
within our star system,
941
00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:26,276
the supernova that
created our star system,
942
00:57:26,359 --> 00:57:28,194
-then our neighboring
star systems.
-Yes.
943
00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:31,114
[Jeremy]
And they have certain ratios
that are typically found
944
00:57:31,197 --> 00:57:35,368
as far as the concentration
of these different types
of zinc.
945
00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,121
So zinc-64, zinc-66...
946
00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:40,498
-This kind of thing.
-Yes.
947
00:57:41,207 --> 00:57:43,501
[Jeremy] What ratiosare you seeing there?
948
00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:45,837
Are they out of proportionwith terrestrial ratios
949
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,838
and what does that tell us?
950
00:57:47,505 --> 00:57:51,301
So, in any sample,
you expect some deviation
951
00:57:51,468 --> 00:57:55,054
from the normal
isotopic ratio of any
of these elements.
952
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:57,265
But what we're
seeing here
953
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,852
is a dramatic shift
954
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:03,688
in the isotopic ratios
of this sample
955
00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:09,527
versus the average isotopic
ratio of zinc found on earth.
956
00:58:10,236 --> 00:58:13,198
[Chris] This zinc is fromsome other part of the galaxy
957
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:14,532
at a minimum.
958
00:58:16,034 --> 00:58:18,077
I'm telling you,
it's not from here.
959
00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:22,415
This sample did not come
from our solar system,
960
00:58:22,707 --> 00:58:23,833
much less the earth.
961
00:58:24,375 --> 00:58:26,878
These isotopes
provided us the evidence.
962
00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:31,216
These are not naturally
occurring on earth.
963
00:58:32,759 --> 00:58:35,595
[Jeremy] My mind is still
kind of frozen with shock.
964
00:58:35,803 --> 00:58:37,972
I did not expect
there to be proof.
965
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,226
You're just
nodding your head
but I'm freaked out.
966
00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:44,854
We have material
that has been pulled
out of a man's leg,
967
00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,356
that should not exist.
968
00:58:46,564 --> 00:58:50,026
This sample could not
have been made on earth
969
00:58:50,109 --> 00:58:52,028
'cause the isotopic ratios
970
00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:58,076
do not support the idea
or the theory that
this sample was made here.
971
00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:00,870
[Jeremy] I mean,
so you got
the "Smoking Gun,"
972
00:59:00,954 --> 00:59:03,915
but it's in the form
of an isotopic analysis.
973
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:08,670
How do you make someone
understand the implication
of those numbers?
974
00:59:18,304 --> 00:59:19,430
[Jeremy] Or maybe you don't.
975
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:24,978
The 64 trillion-dollar
question remains
976
00:59:25,728 --> 00:59:28,189
how did these
ratios get here?
977
00:59:28,481 --> 00:59:32,318
This is not a ratio of zinc
that you would find,
978
00:59:32,986 --> 00:59:34,654
that would be naturally
occurring.
979
00:59:35,029 --> 00:59:38,825
This has nothing to do
with naturally-occurring zinc
980
00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:43,121
in our solar system
or in the surrounding
solar systems.
981
00:59:44,038 --> 00:59:46,708
Within our neighborhood
of the galaxy,
982
00:59:47,375 --> 00:59:48,835
this did not come from.
983
00:59:49,836 --> 00:59:52,672
[Chris] These elementswere created in a supernova
984
00:59:53,047 --> 00:59:57,635
that was manufacturingthese elementsin different ratios.
985
00:59:59,554 --> 01:00:02,181
[Jeremy] Do you think,
from what you've seen,
986
01:00:02,265 --> 01:00:06,227
these isotopes show us
non-terrestriality?
987
01:00:06,311 --> 01:00:07,312
Yes, I do.
988
01:00:11,774 --> 01:00:17,196
[Jeremy] Would you
consider this...
scientific report
989
01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:19,574
of the isotopes,
a "Smoking Gun"?
990
01:00:19,657 --> 01:00:20,617
Yes, I would.
991
01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:25,413
I don't believe any human
made this sample.
992
01:00:29,083 --> 01:00:31,336
[Jeremy] I'm just trying
to figure out my next step.
993
01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:36,674
I mean, I guess we'reat a point where we can say,
994
01:00:36,883 --> 01:00:37,800
big questions.
995
01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:40,428
[Chris] Yes. Huge questions.
996
01:00:47,226 --> 01:00:53,483
[Chris] This is the mostsignificant pieces of actual hardcore data
997
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:59,155
we have ever seenin the field of UFOand extraterrestrial
998
01:00:59,572 --> 01:01:00,948
in this wide world.
999
01:01:01,115 --> 01:01:06,871
This is the single mostcompelling piece of datathat's ever been generated.
1000
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:09,082
So that's a mystery.
1001
01:01:09,832 --> 01:01:14,295
The implication of thisis stretching my imagination.
1002
01:01:22,178 --> 01:01:25,932
[Jeremy] This is justabout the point whereI feel utterly lost.
1003
01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:31,854
I've been investigatingDr. Leir's claims foralmost a year now.
1004
01:01:32,271 --> 01:01:35,358
It's been one step forward, two steps back.
1005
01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:38,986
So here are the facts.
1006
01:01:39,987 --> 01:01:44,033
Patient Seventeenhad a strange objecttaken out of his leg.
1007
01:01:44,742 --> 01:01:48,371
It was analyzedand interpreted by Dr. Leir's team.
1008
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:51,416
They believethe object is proof
1009
01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:55,586
of advanced non-humanintelligence engaginghumanity.
1010
01:01:58,339 --> 01:02:02,343
Patient Seventeen and I are less convinced.
1011
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:07,932
I called the lab and they stoodbehind the results.
1012
01:02:08,683 --> 01:02:11,269
When I asked themif the isotopic results
1013
01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:13,938
were consistent withnon-terrestriality,
1014
01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:17,817
they quickly admitted that errors can occur.
1015
01:02:18,818 --> 01:02:22,864
I presented the data to the head meteoritespecialist at UCLA,
1016
01:02:23,656 --> 01:02:26,826
and he basically told me that we would need more tests
1017
01:02:26,909 --> 01:02:28,870
to determinethe object's origin.
1018
01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,956
Innumerable scientists,
1019
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:35,585
from material specialists to nanotechnicians,
1020
01:02:35,668 --> 01:02:37,253
have interpreted the data,
1021
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:39,130
and it's a coin toss.
1022
01:02:39,672 --> 01:02:42,258
Some findthe compositionanomalous,
1023
01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:47,346
others say it's what youmight expect to find ina common alloy.
1024
01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:51,309
Most simply say, "We need more tests."
1025
01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:56,564
With Dr. Leir gone, our only hopeto further this case
1026
01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:59,233
is to get our handson the sample
1027
01:03:00,026 --> 01:03:01,360
and continue the quest.
1028
01:03:03,112 --> 01:03:05,698
This has provento be a challenge.
1029
01:03:29,347 --> 01:03:31,182
[phone ringing]
1030
01:03:37,438 --> 01:03:39,440
[automated voice]
Please leave your messageafter the tone.
1031
01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,236
[Jeremy] Hey, man,it's me.
1032
01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:48,115
I've been trying for monthsto get a hold of Steve.
1033
01:03:48,449 --> 01:03:49,867
He's changedhis phone number,
1034
01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:52,870
he won't answerany of my messages.
1035
01:03:53,955 --> 01:03:58,960
I just don't knowif we're gonna be ableto get the sample back
1036
01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:01,838
or if we're gonna be able to figure out what this is.
1037
01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,882
I'm extremely frustrated.
1038
01:04:04,966 --> 01:04:08,928
I mean, I figurethe only thing left is
1039
01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:11,681
to go bangon his door.
1040
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:16,644
You know, we've comethis far, man.
1041
01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:19,188
We need to do more tests.
1042
01:04:27,572 --> 01:04:29,240
[piano music playing]
1043
01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:34,245
It seems that we each havefront-row seats for thiscosmic symphony,
1044
01:04:34,579 --> 01:04:39,417
an ultra-dimensional theaterwhere we are observersand participants.
1045
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:46,007
We are actorson this multi-galactic
1046
01:04:46,090 --> 01:04:49,010
and incomprehensiblymysterious stage,
1047
01:04:49,343 --> 01:04:52,972
and the price of admissionis simply your own curiosity.
1048
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,526
[♪]
1049
01:05:21,375 --> 01:05:23,252
[♪]
1050
01:05:27,423 --> 01:05:29,717
The problem with peekingbehind the curtain
1051
01:05:29,842 --> 01:05:33,220
is that you can't unseeand you can't unknow.
1052
01:05:33,804 --> 01:05:36,057
Your curiosity becomesweaponized
1053
01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:39,393
and from that moment forward,you become a mechanism.
1054
01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:42,021
A beacon radiating with desire
1055
01:05:42,104 --> 01:05:45,441
magnitudes greater than you ever dreamed possible.
1056
01:05:56,535 --> 01:05:58,537
[piano music playing]
1057
01:06:05,503 --> 01:06:07,964
[static noises]
1058
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,842
[piano music continues]
1059
01:06:19,225 --> 01:06:21,018
[static noises]
1060
01:06:24,563 --> 01:06:27,233
[indistinct chatter]
1061
01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:34,073
[digital beeps]
1062
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:41,998
[ending theme music playing]
92022
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