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Dirty Wars (2013) - Bluray
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Kabul, Afghanistan,
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4:00 in the morning.
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As an American journalist,
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I was used to filing stories
in the middle of the night.
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But there's always
something eerie
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driving through the
deserted streets.
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A city of 3 million-
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barely a streetlight on.
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It was a familiar routine:
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Waiting for the crew to
light up the night sky
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so you could see something
in the background.
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But what could we really see?
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Well, Keith, greetings
from Kabul, Afghanistan,
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where the U.S. Ambassador
Karl Eikenberry...
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This is a story about the seen
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and the unseen...
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And about things
hidden in plain sight.
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It's hard to say when
this story began.
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I'd been working
as a war reporter
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for more than a decade
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in Yugoslavia, Iraq,
and now Afghanistan.
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After nearly ten years,
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the war here wasn't
exactly breaking news.
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I think there's, like-
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there's, like, eight rakes.
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One, two, three...
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We haven't been out here.
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What's the name of
this village out here?
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Oh, I have no idea.
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They all blend in for me.
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Yeah.
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What's the focus of
your campaign here?
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In southern Nangarhar,
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we're dealing with the Ashkar-
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Ashkael-
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uh, Asherkeil tribe.
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You know, the wording,
uh, I'll get right
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probably when we leave
next year, but...
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This was supposed to
be the front line
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in the war on terror.
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From Kabul out on an
exercise with the military
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and back to Kabul,
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the Afghan Press Corps
was locked in a bubble.
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We were told that the
battle for hearts and minds
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was being won
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as soldiers dug wells
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or drank tea with tribal elders.
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But I knew I was
missing the story.
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There was another war,
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hinted at in press conferences
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and detailed in each
morning's press release.
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December 14th, Zabul Province,
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a night raid.
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Four Taliban killed,
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three detained for questioning.
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No civilians injured.
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No one at NATO would
give us anything more
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than the lists of
nighttime raids.
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No one even seemed to know
who was doing the raids.
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And I wasn't going to find
out if I stayed in Kabul.
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POLICE HEADQUARTERS
JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN
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This is the third raid in my district.
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13 or 14 people
have been killed in all.
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They were innocent people.
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So what you're saying
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is that the Americans
will come into a district
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where you're the
police commander,
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and they won't inform you
that they're gonna carry out
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this kind of action
in your district.
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I've asked the American
soldiers that come to my district.
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But even the main
NATO base here says
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they don't know
anything about the raids.
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The troops came
from another base.
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So there's the two-
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the two men in the guesthouse
were the first people killed.
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And then...
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The farmer from here.
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- Yeah.
- And then another farmer.
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Two.
Two of his sons.
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Two.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Two of his sons.
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So there's, I think-
so seven.
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Or two-
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- Two, two---four.
One farmer---five.
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Two these---
seven.
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Two...
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The Americans will say anything.
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The Americans will say anything,
everyone knows that.
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If the Americans do this again,
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we are ready to shed
our blood fighting them.
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We would rather die than
sit by and do nothing.
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The list of raids from
NATO press releases
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read like a map of a hidden war.
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The military divided the roads
in Afghanistan by color.
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Green was safe.
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Red was dangerous.
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And black?
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Don't even try it.
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Most of the raids were happening
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far beyond the green zone
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in what the military
called "denied areas"...
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Places where journalists
never show up
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to ask questions.
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NATO, the U.S. Embassy,
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and my own better judgment
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all advised against
traveling there.
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But I'd read about
a raid in Gardez,
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half a day's drive
in Paktia Province.
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I pushed as far as I
could into the gray area
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on the fraying edge
of NATO's control,
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past rusting Russian tanks
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and bombed-out NATO
supply convoys.
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Two other journalists had
been kidnapped on this road,
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and after weeks
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in the military's
armored vehicles,
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our Toyota felt
thin-skinned and fragile.
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I knew I had to be back
in Kabul before sunset,
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when the Taliban took
control of the roads.
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But I had no idea how far
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my visit to Gardez
would lead me.
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GARDEZ
PAKTIA PROVINCE
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This is my son,
and this is my son,
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and this is my
daughter-in-law,
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and this is my granddaughter.
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They killed them
all on a single day.
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Two of the women they
killed were pregnant.
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One was 5 months, the
other was 4 months pregnant.
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A child had been
born in our home
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and we had organized
a party to celebrate.
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We invited many
guests and had music.
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During the party,
people were dancing
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our traditional dance, the attan.
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The American forces came
between 3:30 and 4:00 am.
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Daoud went to see
what was happening.
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He thought the
Taliban had come.
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They were already
on the roof.
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They shot Daoud as
soon as he stepped outside.
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All the children were shouting,
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"Daoud is shot!
Daoud is shot!"
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We brought Daoud in here.
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The women grabbed Zaher.
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They told him not to
go or he would be killed.
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But they opened fire.
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They killed three women,
along with Zaher.
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My wife, my sister,
and my niece.
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Look at these
patched bullet holes.
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Was Mr. Daoud
killed immediately,
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or did he live for a
while after he was shot?
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Daoud and my sister-in-law
were alive until 7:00 am.
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They didn't let us take
them to the hospital.
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The Americans used knives to dig
the bullets out of their bodies.
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They pulled out the
bullets from their body.
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You saw the U.S. Forces
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take the bullets
out of the body?
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Ja.
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They tied our
hands and blindfolded us.
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Two people grabbed us.
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They pushed us one
by one into the aircraft.
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They flew us
to another province.
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To Paktika.
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So he had just seen his wife
killed by the American forces,
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and then he himself was taken
prisoner by the Americans.
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What was going through his
head when they took him?
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My senses weren't
working at all. I couldn't cry.
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I was numb and
didn't feel a thing.
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I didn't eat for
three days and nights.
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My hands and clothes
were caked with blood.
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They didn't give us water
to wash the blood away.
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The interrogators had beards
and didn't wear American uniforms.
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They had big muscles.
Sometimes they acted nice.
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And sometimes
they would shake us.
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By the time I got home,
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all our dead had
already been buried.
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Only my father and my brother were left
at home. I didn't want to live anymore.
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I wanted to wear a suicide jacket
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and blow myself up
among the Americans.
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But my brother and my
father wouldn't let me.
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I wanted Jihad
against the Americans.
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MOHAMMED DAOUD
1:00 AM - FEBRUARY 12, 2010
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MOHAMMED DAOUD
2:00 PM - FEBRUARY 12, 2010
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The family had no idea
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what led the Americans
to their home.
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MOHAMMED DAOUD
POLICE COMMANDER, GARDEZ
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They had long fought
against the Taliban,
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and Daoud was a police commander
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who'd been through dozens
of U.S. training programs.
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This is my son,
the Police Commander.
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Was he Taliban?
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[untranslated]
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They said they had information
that 50 Taliban were here.
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But they were all my relatives,
and they worked for the government.
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They killed my innocent sons,
daughter, and daughter-in-law.
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They had committed no
sin and had no enemies.
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As we prepared to leave,
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Daoud's granddaughter
spoke to us,
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but only later would I know
the meaning of her words.
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[Translated later in the film]
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Daoud's family told
me it was time to go.
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The sun sets early
in the mountains,
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and the night belongs
to the Taliban.
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[Gunfire]
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So the highway's closed.
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I think there is an attack from Taliban.
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The gunfire continued,
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and it was now obvious
how dangerous,
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maybe even reckless
the trip had been.
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Mm-hmm.
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NATO wasted no time
issuing a report.
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They claimed that the
women killed in Gardez
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were the victims of a
Taliban honor killing,
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bound and gagged
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by their own murderous families.
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You saw the U.S. Forces
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take the bullets
out of the body?
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[Untranslated]
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I believed the family,
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but that wasn't enough
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for me or anyone else.
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[Speaking indistinctly]
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Who were these men that
stormed into Daoud's home?
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And why would they go to
such horrifying lengths
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to cover up their actions?
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Tamana.
Who did the Americans kill?
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They killed my grandfather...
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...and Gulalai.
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And they killed Agha Abdulnoor.
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All right.
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Ready? Yeah.
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One, two, three.
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Good morning.
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The subcommittee
will come to order.
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The subject is
national security.
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HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
WASHINGTON, DC
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If my esteemed friend,
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the gentleman from Michigan,
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wishes to continue
with this hearing,
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I think that's fine.
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He is the chairman.
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But next year,
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when this committee is
under new management,
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we won't be looking
at the calendar
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of last year or two years ago.
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Thank you.
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Far from discussing
the distant past,
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I'd like to share
with this committee
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part of my investigation into
deadly U.S. night raids...
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Sensenbrenner walked out,
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but no one else even
bothered to show up...
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Just Chairman Conyers
and his staffers.
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In closing, Mr. Ohairman,
I told these families
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that I'd bring their cases
before the U.S. Congress
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and ask that they
be investigated
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and that those responsible
be held accountable.
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On behalf of those families...
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It didn't surprise me
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that Washington wasn't
interested in Gardez.
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As an investigative reporter,
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you rarely have
people's attention.
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More often than not,
you work alone,
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and the stories you labor
over fall on deaf ears.
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But sometimes a story
strikes a nerve,
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and you're thrown into
the public arena.
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It happened to me once before.
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During its time in Iraq,
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Blackwater has regularly
engaged in firefights
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and other deadly incidents...
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It was 2007,
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and I was reporting
on Blackwater,
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a shadowy mercenary company,
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and suddenly it was
front-page news.
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A frequent contributor
to The Nation magazine,
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his new book is
called Blackwater.
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Jeremy Scahill, who authored
the book Blackwater...
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Who's come to us from London...
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Joining me now is
Jeremy Scahill.
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I quickly discovered
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that the world of
talk show television
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is less a meeting
place for ideas
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and more like a boxing ring.
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That is hooey.
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$700 million
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for a colonial
fortress in Pakistan.
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The whole thing
feels like a game.
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But every time you
step into the ring,
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there's a chance your
story can have an impact.
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Journalists have done nothing
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to hold the White House
accountable now,
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Chuck, or under Bush.
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Let me get to the story-
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- Why are you still alive?
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Are you paranoid?
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No, I'm serious. I'm serious.
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I mean, it's an amazing
book that you've written,
295
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and I'm curious that-
"Oh, that guy had a"-
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"Remember that guy
we did Maher with?"
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"Oh, he's dead."
"What happened?"
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"He had an
accident." I mean...
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And here are the-
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Residents are being
picked up, abducted...
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Congress wasn't going
to investigate
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the raid in Gardez.
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And my Freedom of
Information requests
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were bounced all
over the military,
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ending up in an unnamed
agency awaiting review.
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I reached out to everyone
I could in Washington-
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the CIA, State Department,
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former military officials-
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but no one would speak
openly about Gardez...
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Until I met with
General Hugh Shelton,
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Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs on 9/11.
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GEN. HUGH SHELTON
CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
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One incident that I looked
into in Afghanistan,
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where an Afghan police commander
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and two pregnant
women were killed-
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but the question I
wanted to ask you is,
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in that kind of case-
let's say that's true-
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how would something
like that be handled
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or investigated or reviewed?
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If they go flying in
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and meet any kind of
resistance at all-
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I mean, shots are fired-
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then I'm sorry if
they got killed,
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but they're in the wrong
place at the wrong time,
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and I don't think it ought
to be investigated.
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I think you write it off
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as one of those
damn acts of war.
328
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But one of the victims was
a senior police commander
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who had been trained
by the U.S.
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And two of them were
pregnant women.
331
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Now, just 'cause
he's a police chief-
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he could've been a
terrorist as well.
333
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You know, he could've
been working both sides,
334
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so that piece of it,
although it sounds bad-
335
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but two pregnant women?
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The fact that they were pregnant
is very, very unfortunate,
337
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but it's also unfortunate
that they were women.
338
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But on the other hand,
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I've been shot at
by women myself,
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so that doesn't-
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And I mean shot at.
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That doesn't excuse 'em.
343
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They die just like men do
if they shoot at us, so...
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Congress wasn't interested.
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I was being stonewalled
by the military.
346
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And General Shelton told me
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there should be
no investigation.
348
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KAIA AIRPORT
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN
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And back in Afghanistan,
350
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the reporter who first
broke the Gardez story
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had been publicly
attacked by NATO.
352
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JEROME STARKEY
TIMES OF LONDON
353
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Yeah, we went to
print on a Saturday.
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By Saturday afternoon,
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I was getting information
356
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from other journalists in
Kabul who are my friends
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that NATO was
briefing against me.
358
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NATO was trying to discredit me,
359
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trying to say that the
story was inaccurate,
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and effectively trying
to kill it dead.
361
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To my knowledge, that
was the only time
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that they've named a journalist
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and sort of singled out a
journalist so specifically
364
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in a denial.
365
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NATO accused Starkey of lying.
366
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It could have been enough to
end a journalist's career.
367
00:19:33,912 --> 00:19:36,747
But information about
Gardez kept leaking out.
368
00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:39,517
A secret UN
investigation confirmed
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many of the details the
family had told us,
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and an Afghan police
inquiry was under way.
371
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MOHAMMED DAOUD
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I didn't realize what the
family was showing me.
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It was just a grainy
cell phone video
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from the morning
after the attack...
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[indistinct conversation]
376
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Until the voices began.
377
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OK, the blood trail? This is it.
378
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This is the last room.
This is where the engagement was.
379
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It comes the [inaudible].
380
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There's a woman crying in the doorway.
381
00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:12,441
My group was emptying this
room and that room there, OK.
382
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We pulled everyone out, OK?
383
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Now at that point,
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I'm watching what's going on here,
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I see it all go down,
386
00:20:20,402 --> 00:20:21,918
and we go behind them.
White light,
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00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:23,613
to make sure no one's hiding.
388
00:20:23,662 --> 00:20:24,686
When I get to here...
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Two Americans,
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00:20:25,932 --> 00:20:27,408
their hands visible for a moment
391
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filming the corpses
392
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while they piece
together their version
393
00:20:30,535 --> 00:20:31,695
of that night's killings.
394
00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,565
After everything's said and done,
395
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still, two guys are hiding.
396
00:20:36,167 --> 00:20:38,049
NATO phoned me up,
and they said,
397
00:20:38,055 --> 00:20:39,818
"Jerome, we're just
calling to let you know
398
00:20:40,045 --> 00:20:41,770
"we're about to put
out a press release.
399
00:20:41,776 --> 00:20:44,036
We are changing our
version of events."
400
00:20:44,097 --> 00:20:47,066
They admitted that
they were responsible
401
00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,720
for killing the three women
402
00:20:50,755 --> 00:20:53,383
and that the men they
said were Taliban
403
00:20:53,425 --> 00:20:54,971
were not, in fact, Taliban.
404
00:20:54,977 --> 00:20:56,384
They admitted they'd
got it wrong.
405
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:58,156
Again, they were hoping
it was gonna go away.
406
00:20:58,195 --> 00:20:59,323
Well, it wasn't.
407
00:20:59,363 --> 00:21:01,558
Like yourselves, we set off
very early one morning
408
00:21:01,598 --> 00:21:03,759
from Kabul through
Logar to Gardez...
409
00:21:04,902 --> 00:21:07,531
When up rolls a huge convoy
410
00:21:07,572 --> 00:21:10,973
of countless Afghan
officers and soldiers.
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And among them is a man
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wearing a uniform
that I recognize
413
00:21:13,845 --> 00:21:15,005
as sort of U.S. Marines,
414
00:21:15,046 --> 00:21:16,809
but it says U.S.
Navy on his lapel.
415
00:21:16,848 --> 00:21:18,042
But I didn't know who he was.
416
00:21:18,083 --> 00:21:20,313
They off-loaded a sheep,
417
00:21:20,352 --> 00:21:22,479
and three Afghan soldiers
knelt on this sheep
418
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in exactly the same place
419
00:21:23,955 --> 00:21:26,947
where these soldiers had been
when they started the raid.
420
00:21:26,992 --> 00:21:29,017
They were offering to
sacrifice the sheep.
421
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:31,585
The soldiers tried to stop
Starkey's photographer,
422
00:21:31,629 --> 00:21:32,697
Jeremy Kelly,
423
00:21:32,703 --> 00:21:34,259
but the family insisted.
424
00:21:35,633 --> 00:21:37,066
Otherwise, there'd
be no evidence
425
00:21:37,102 --> 00:21:39,696
that this extraordinary
event occurred,
426
00:21:39,738 --> 00:21:42,206
no proof of who
the killers were.
427
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,173
Like so much about this war,
428
00:21:44,208 --> 00:21:46,176
they would have remained unseen.
429
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He said that, "My
soldiers were responsible
430
00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:52,072
for the deaths of these
members of your family,"
431
00:21:52,116 --> 00:21:53,875
and for that, he apologized.
432
00:21:54,273 --> 00:22:02,042
I would not trade my sons for the
entire kingdom of the United States.
433
00:22:02,072 --> 00:22:06,213
America unleashes
the Special Forces on us.
434
00:22:06,243 --> 00:22:09,216
And the Special Forces
beat and kill poor, innocent people.
435
00:22:09,246 --> 00:22:15,711
These Special Forces with the
beards did cruel, criminal things.
436
00:22:15,877 --> 00:22:17,838
They all have beards.
437
00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:21,508
We call them
the American Taliban.
438
00:22:59,046 --> 00:23:01,006
BROOKLYN, NY
439
00:23:03,955 --> 00:23:05,252
I returned home
440
00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:08,282
and tried to put the story
of Gardez behind me.
441
00:23:08,326 --> 00:23:09,918
But coming home is never easy.
442
00:23:14,732 --> 00:23:15,926
I didn't want to admit it,
443
00:23:15,967 --> 00:23:17,524
but life back home was dull
444
00:23:17,568 --> 00:23:18,933
after being in a war zone.
445
00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:22,799
Ordinary life was just that.
446
00:23:31,249 --> 00:23:33,012
I tried to forget about Gardez
447
00:23:33,051 --> 00:23:34,109
but couldn't.
448
00:23:34,152 --> 00:23:36,313
We pulled everyone out, okay?
449
00:23:37,255 --> 00:23:38,722
Now, at that point,
450
00:23:38,756 --> 00:23:40,485
I'm watching what's
going on here.
451
00:23:40,525 --> 00:23:41,958
I see it all go down. Now...
452
00:23:41,993 --> 00:23:44,461
The video was chilling,
453
00:23:44,496 --> 00:23:46,487
but I couldn't see their faces.
454
00:23:46,531 --> 00:23:49,557
All I had were images
of their hands
455
00:23:49,601 --> 00:23:50,932
and the sound of their voices.
456
00:23:50,969 --> 00:23:52,368
Okay, the blood trail.
This is it.
457
00:23:52,403 --> 00:23:53,529
This is the last room.
458
00:23:53,571 --> 00:23:54,902
This is where the
engagement was.
459
00:23:54,939 --> 00:23:56,372
He comes in here. There's-
460
00:23:56,407 --> 00:23:58,034
There's a woman crying
in the doorway.
461
00:23:58,076 --> 00:24:01,307
None of these clues
were supposed to exist-
462
00:24:01,346 --> 00:24:02,711
the cell phone video,
463
00:24:02,747 --> 00:24:04,737
the photos of the
admiral and his sheep.
464
00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,618
The killers were meant to
disappear without a trace.
465
00:24:11,288 --> 00:24:14,189
The family had called
them "American Taliban."
466
00:24:14,224 --> 00:24:15,486
But who were they,
467
00:24:15,526 --> 00:24:17,927
these American
soldiers with beards?
468
00:24:28,173 --> 00:24:29,773
As a reporter, you
learn that every story
469
00:24:29,807 --> 00:24:31,799
has conflicting points of view.
470
00:24:33,011 --> 00:24:34,569
You try to understand
all of them
471
00:24:34,612 --> 00:24:36,273
without letting your
own get in the way.
472
00:24:38,383 --> 00:24:40,578
But there was something
about this story
473
00:24:40,618 --> 00:24:42,108
and the way it was covered up.
474
00:24:44,322 --> 00:24:46,153
The photo of the admiral
had seemed to answer
475
00:24:46,191 --> 00:24:47,681
our questions about the raid.
476
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,826
But the longer I looked at it,
477
00:24:50,861 --> 00:24:53,125
the less sense it made.
478
00:24:53,163 --> 00:24:55,154
I could read the name and rank,
479
00:24:55,199 --> 00:24:57,497
but who was this man
delivering the sheep?
480
00:24:59,670 --> 00:25:01,001
Vice Admiral William McRaven
481
00:25:01,038 --> 00:25:03,472
wasn't from NATO
Headquarters in Kabul,
482
00:25:03,507 --> 00:25:05,567
and he wasn't from the
Eastern Regional Command
483
00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:07,009
that owned that battle space.
484
00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,541
I'd never seen the R01
insignia on his shoulder.
485
00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:14,074
And it was hard to find
mention of him in the press,
486
00:25:14,118 --> 00:25:15,608
much less a photograph.
487
00:25:17,021 --> 00:25:20,354
But I found an old DOD
press briefing from 2008
488
00:25:20,391 --> 00:25:22,086
that mentioned
McRaven's nomination
489
00:25:22,126 --> 00:25:24,026
to lead an obscure unit
within the military
490
00:25:24,062 --> 00:25:26,189
called JSOC,
491
00:25:26,231 --> 00:25:28,392
the Joint Special
Operations Command.
492
00:25:31,035 --> 00:25:33,299
After more than a decade
as a war reporter,
493
00:25:33,338 --> 00:25:36,205
I thought I knew most of
the players involved,
494
00:25:36,241 --> 00:25:37,867
but I'd never heard of JSOC.
495
00:25:39,576 --> 00:25:41,544
There was little
official record,
496
00:25:41,578 --> 00:25:43,671
but JSOC was formed in 1980
497
00:25:43,714 --> 00:25:46,148
after the failed hostage
rescue mission in Iran.
498
00:25:47,150 --> 00:25:48,242
It was designed
499
00:25:48,285 --> 00:25:50,583
as the most covert
unit in the military
500
00:25:50,621 --> 00:25:53,147
and the only one that reports
directly to the White House.
501
00:25:55,593 --> 00:25:57,584
So why would the
President's elite force
502
00:25:57,629 --> 00:26:00,393
be kicking down the doors
on a family in Gardez?
503
00:26:02,233 --> 00:26:04,667
I knew Gardez wasn't
an isolated incident
504
00:26:04,702 --> 00:26:07,432
and went back to NATO's
daily press releases
505
00:26:07,472 --> 00:26:09,463
with their lists of
killed and captured.
506
00:26:11,442 --> 00:26:14,240
I expected the list to be long,
507
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,179
but I had no idea how long.
508
00:26:17,949 --> 00:26:20,417
Every week, the tempo
of raids increased.
509
00:26:20,451 --> 00:26:21,850
In the last three months,
510
00:26:21,886 --> 00:26:24,649
there had been 1700 night
raids in Afghanistan.
511
00:26:25,956 --> 00:26:27,695
It was a staggering figure
512
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,857
and meant that stories
like the one in Gardez
513
00:26:29,863 --> 00:26:32,559
were unfolding nearly
20 times each night.
514
00:26:33,864 --> 00:26:36,492
An endless list of raids
515
00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:38,000
but not a single name.
516
00:26:40,672 --> 00:26:43,470
I could see that Gardez was
part of a bigger story-
517
00:26:43,508 --> 00:26:44,873
much bigger.
518
00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:46,809
But the very thought of
it was overwhelming.
519
00:26:48,246 --> 00:26:49,886
With 1700 raids,
520
00:26:50,244 --> 00:26:52,191
who would compile the
list of the dead?
521
00:27:05,229 --> 00:27:06,526
The surge of night raids
522
00:27:06,564 --> 00:27:08,896
was clearly changing the
war in Afghanistan.
523
00:27:11,302 --> 00:27:14,634
It didn't take long for
JSOC's actions to ricochet.
524
00:27:14,671 --> 00:27:17,139
Matthew Hoh has become
the first U.S. official
525
00:27:17,174 --> 00:27:20,837
to resign in protest
over the Afghan war.
526
00:27:20,877 --> 00:27:22,708
Hoh is a former marine
who spent five months
527
00:27:22,746 --> 00:27:24,941
working for the State
Department in Afghanistan
528
00:27:24,981 --> 00:27:27,382
and is, by all accounts,
well-respected.
529
00:27:30,859 --> 00:27:32,927
CPT. MATTHEW HOH
FORMER STATE DEPT. OFFICIAL
530
00:27:32,957 --> 00:27:34,015
A lot of times, yeah,
531
00:27:34,058 --> 00:27:35,491
the right guys would
get targeted,
532
00:27:35,526 --> 00:27:37,153
and the right guys
would get killed.
533
00:27:37,195 --> 00:27:38,492
And then plenty of other times,
534
00:27:38,529 --> 00:27:39,894
the wrong people
would get killed,
535
00:27:39,931 --> 00:27:41,660
sometimes innocent families.
536
00:27:41,699 --> 00:27:44,167
And then that sets
you back so far.
537
00:27:44,202 --> 00:27:46,170
You know, nothing like
going into a village
538
00:27:46,204 --> 00:27:48,171
in the middle of the night,
knocking a door down,
539
00:27:48,205 --> 00:27:50,106
and, like, killing
a woman or a child
540
00:27:50,141 --> 00:27:53,838
to just undo everything that
infantry battalion command
541
00:27:53,878 --> 00:27:56,472
had been trying to do for, like,
the last nine, ten months.
542
00:27:56,514 --> 00:27:57,538
You were in a position
543
00:27:57,582 --> 00:27:59,640
where you were
trying to vet lists
544
00:27:59,683 --> 00:28:01,651
to make sure that
the wrong people
545
00:28:01,685 --> 00:28:03,482
weren't being killed
by these task forces.
546
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080
Were there 500 people
on this list, 1,000?
547
00:28:06,123 --> 00:28:07,454
No, I can't-
I can't tell you.
548
00:28:07,491 --> 00:28:08,583
- Oh, you can't?
- Yeah.
549
00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:10,149
You can't tell me because...
550
00:28:10,193 --> 00:28:11,888
I can't tell you 'cause I
can't tell you that stuff.
551
00:28:11,928 --> 00:28:12,986
- You can't talk about it?
- Yeah.
552
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:14,054
I saw the list. I saw
how big they are.
553
00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:15,258
Yeah, everything else, yeah.
554
00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:16,891
I mean, that's-
I can't tell you.
555
00:28:16,934 --> 00:28:18,094
I was just...
556
00:28:26,477 --> 00:28:28,104
The Joint Special
Operations Command
557
00:28:28,146 --> 00:28:30,239
had never numbered more
than a few thousand.
558
00:28:31,582 --> 00:28:33,106
But under William McRaven,
559
00:28:33,151 --> 00:28:35,585
Afghanistan had
become JSOC's war.
560
00:28:36,788 --> 00:28:38,756
How had such a small covert unit
561
00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:40,485
taken over the largest
conventional war
562
00:28:40,525 --> 00:28:41,583
on the planet?
563
00:28:43,961 --> 00:28:46,588
Andrew Exum had experienced
the change firsthand
564
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:47,927
when he served as part
565
00:28:47,964 --> 00:28:50,398
of McRaven's high value
targeting campaign,
566
00:28:50,434 --> 00:28:52,095
not in Afghanistan
567
00:28:52,135 --> 00:28:53,830
but in Iraq.
568
00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:56,236
He led a company
of rangers in 2003
569
00:28:56,273 --> 00:28:59,037
as part of JSOC's
Iraq task force.
570
00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:01,825
CPT. ANDREW EXUM
75TH RANGER REGIMENT
571
00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,081
I watched the way
things began to change.
572
00:29:05,116 --> 00:29:07,516
You know, kind of
the iron rule was,
573
00:29:07,552 --> 00:29:09,645
you don't go anywhere unless
you've got, you know,
574
00:29:09,687 --> 00:29:12,121
a company of Army
Rangers in reserve.
575
00:29:12,156 --> 00:29:15,683
In 2003, nobody was in reserve.
576
00:29:15,726 --> 00:29:18,194
I mean, people were hitting
targets every single night
577
00:29:18,229 --> 00:29:20,026
in a very dispersed way
578
00:29:20,064 --> 00:29:21,895
and just-bam, bam, bam.
579
00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:23,958
I mean, you remember
the deck of cards.
580
00:29:24,001 --> 00:29:26,264
We kind of had this
poster of all these guys,
581
00:29:26,303 --> 00:29:29,137
and we went out looking
for them every night.
582
00:29:29,173 --> 00:29:30,697
So we would, you know,
kick down a door
583
00:29:30,741 --> 00:29:32,140
and pull somebody
out of their home
584
00:29:32,175 --> 00:29:33,267
in the middle of the night,
585
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:34,777
and the next morning, you know,
586
00:29:34,811 --> 00:29:36,642
people would be rioting
in the streets.
587
00:29:37,881 --> 00:29:39,246
I'm in!
588
00:29:39,282 --> 00:29:40,306
Clear!
589
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:41,977
Come out!
590
00:29:42,018 --> 00:29:43,883
On your fuckin' face.
591
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,785
On your face.
592
00:29:49,827 --> 00:29:51,988
Yeah, I remember one
night going out.
593
00:29:52,029 --> 00:29:53,223
You know, we found out later
594
00:29:53,264 --> 00:29:55,732
that we were on
two-weeks-old intelligence.
595
00:29:55,766 --> 00:29:57,597
Two Iraqis started
shooting at us.
596
00:29:57,635 --> 00:29:58,966
We killed them.
597
00:29:59,003 --> 00:30:00,971
And, you know, we kind
of realized later
598
00:30:01,005 --> 00:30:03,098
that these guys were
just out guarding the-
599
00:30:03,140 --> 00:30:04,903
you know, the
neighborhood generator.
600
00:30:04,942 --> 00:30:06,603
Now, I didn't lose
any sleep over it,
601
00:30:06,644 --> 00:30:07,941
'cause these guys
were shooting at me,
602
00:30:07,979 --> 00:30:09,344
but, you know, you start
thinking about it
603
00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:11,848
from a strategic perspective...
that's a loss.
604
00:30:11,883 --> 00:30:13,908
You start out with
a target list,
605
00:30:13,951 --> 00:30:15,577
and maybe you got 50 guys on it;
606
00:30:15,619 --> 00:30:17,281
maybe you got 200 guys on it.
607
00:30:17,321 --> 00:30:21,222
But you can work your way
through those 50 or 200 guys,
608
00:30:21,258 --> 00:30:22,748
and then suddenly,
609
00:30:22,792 --> 00:30:24,089
at the end of that target list,
610
00:30:24,127 --> 00:30:25,458
you've now got a new target list
611
00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:27,861
of, you know, 3,000
people on it.
612
00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:29,593
And how did this grow?
613
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:37,200
What Exum told me about
Iraq was a revelation.
614
00:30:37,241 --> 00:30:39,300
I thought JSOC's rise
had happened later
615
00:30:39,343 --> 00:30:41,470
in Afghanistan.
616
00:30:41,512 --> 00:30:43,571
I'd worked in Baghdad for years
617
00:30:43,614 --> 00:30:45,548
and had written countless
stories there,
618
00:30:45,583 --> 00:30:47,414
many from the front
lines of the war.
619
00:30:48,753 --> 00:30:50,433
It was there that I
first started reporting
620
00:30:50,454 --> 00:30:51,751
for The Nation magazine.
621
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:54,817
But I'd never heard of JSOC.
622
00:30:54,859 --> 00:30:57,054
The budget for the Joint
Special Operations Command,
623
00:30:57,094 --> 00:30:58,654
you can't get it through
a FOIA request.
624
00:30:58,663 --> 00:30:59,925
We've tried that.
625
00:30:59,964 --> 00:31:02,364
I'd missed the most
important story.
626
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,367
In Iraq, the U.S. had
fundamentally changed
627
00:31:04,401 --> 00:31:05,767
the way it fought war.
628
00:31:07,270 --> 00:31:09,101
The real story, JSOC,
629
00:31:09,139 --> 00:31:10,936
was hidden in the shadows,
630
00:31:10,974 --> 00:31:12,032
out of sight.
631
00:31:15,745 --> 00:31:17,372
What was hidden in the
shadows right now?
632
00:31:17,414 --> 00:31:18,847
...That I propose
633
00:31:18,882 --> 00:31:21,942
represent a new direction
from the last eight years.
634
00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:24,687
What was I missing today?
635
00:31:24,722 --> 00:31:28,283
We are embracing more
oversight of our actions,
636
00:31:28,326 --> 00:31:31,489
and we're narrowing our use of
the state secrets privilege.
637
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:34,864
I discovered that,
over the past decade,
638
00:31:34,899 --> 00:31:36,924
a series of secret
presidential orders
639
00:31:36,968 --> 00:31:39,459
had given JSOC
unprecedented authority.
640
00:31:40,638 --> 00:31:42,606
The battlefield was expanded,
641
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,267
and JSOC could now hit at will
642
00:31:44,308 --> 00:31:46,799
in countries beyond
Iraq and Afghanistan.
643
00:31:54,517 --> 00:31:56,917
I began to research
strikes against Al-Qaeda
644
00:31:56,953 --> 00:31:58,784
outside the declared
battlefields.
645
00:32:00,323 --> 00:32:02,314
I looked for patterns
among the lists.
646
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:04,786
And then I found one.
647
00:32:06,096 --> 00:32:08,223
In December 2009,
648
00:32:08,264 --> 00:32:11,029
five strikes with
over 150 casualties
649
00:32:11,068 --> 00:32:13,059
in a country without
a declared war.
650
00:32:16,941 --> 00:32:19,910
[Man singing in native language]
651
00:32:29,365 --> 00:32:31,618
ADEN, YEMEN
652
00:32:34,125 --> 00:32:35,251
Aden.
653
00:32:35,292 --> 00:32:36,919
Yemen's ancient port city
654
00:32:36,961 --> 00:32:38,952
was nothing like Kabul.
655
00:32:38,996 --> 00:32:42,395
In Afghanistan, life was
defined by the war.
656
00:32:42,431 --> 00:32:44,593
Everything revolved around it.
657
00:32:44,634 --> 00:32:46,602
But in Yemen, there was no war,
658
00:32:46,636 --> 00:32:47,796
at least not officially.
659
00:32:51,274 --> 00:32:53,469
The strikes seemed to have
come out of the blue,
660
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:56,138
and most Yemenis were going
about life as usual.
661
00:33:00,985 --> 00:33:03,783
It was difficult to
know where to start.
662
00:33:03,821 --> 00:33:06,654
The Yemeni government claimed
responsibility for the strikes,
663
00:33:06,691 --> 00:33:09,956
saying they'd killed dozens
of Al-Qaeda operatives.
664
00:33:09,994 --> 00:33:12,792
But it was unclear who
the targets really were
665
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:14,457
or who was even responsible.
666
00:33:17,635 --> 00:33:19,262
I arranged to meet the
most powerful man
667
00:33:19,303 --> 00:33:20,930
in southern Yemen,
668
00:33:20,971 --> 00:33:22,836
Sheikh Saleh Bin Fareed.
669
00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:24,780
SHEIKH SALEH BIN FAREED
LEADER, AL-AULAQ TRIBE
670
00:33:24,942 --> 00:33:27,239
When was the first time
that you heard about
671
00:33:27,277 --> 00:33:29,177
someone being Al-Qaeda
in that area?
672
00:33:29,419 --> 00:33:34,513
It is... I never new that anybody
belonged to Al Qaeda,
673
00:33:34,896 --> 00:33:39,036
except in the last 3 years.
674
00:33:39,052 --> 00:33:42,700
And especially after the
Americans attacked Al Majalah.
675
00:33:49,033 --> 00:33:52,161
How did you first
hear of the strikes
676
00:33:52,203 --> 00:33:54,671
that had happened
on December 17th?
677
00:33:54,677 --> 00:33:58,568
We got telephones from those people.
678
00:33:58,719 --> 00:34:01,179
And, of course, the news was on Al Jazeera.
679
00:34:01,187 --> 00:34:02,593
What was the news saying about it?
680
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,075
Our government attacked Al
Qaeda base in Al Majalah.
681
00:34:06,081 --> 00:34:08,912
Where Al Qaeda have a
field for training.
682
00:34:09,511 --> 00:34:15,464
And they have huge stores for all kinds
of weapons and ammunition and rockets,
683
00:34:16,556 --> 00:34:18,891
and they did not mention
the Americans at all.
684
00:34:26,891 --> 00:34:28,227
When we went there...
685
00:34:29,017 --> 00:34:30,649
we saw what happened.
686
00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:32,954
I mean... I mean,
687
00:34:33,141 --> 00:34:35,953
if somebody's got a weak heart,
I think he will collapse.
688
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:39,953
You see goats and sheep all over.
689
00:34:40,442 --> 00:34:45,051
See the heads of those who
were killed, here and there.
690
00:34:45,075 --> 00:34:46,973
You see children.
691
00:34:47,247 --> 00:34:52,699
And you cannot tell (if) this meat
belongs to animals or to human beings.
692
00:34:55,003 --> 00:34:56,948
Why they do this?
Why the hell they do this?
693
00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:58,964
When... there is no stores,
694
00:34:58,970 --> 00:35:00,493
there is no field for training
695
00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:03,171
there is nobody, except
a very poor tribe...
696
00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:06,680
one of the poorest...
697
00:35:07,329 --> 00:35:08,751
tribes in...
698
00:35:09,314 --> 00:35:10,408
the south.
699
00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,833
AL MAJALAH
ABYAN PROVINCE
700
00:35:27,668 --> 00:35:30,922
People saw the smoke
and felt the earth shake.
701
00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:35,605
They had never
seen anything like it.
702
00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:41,099
I ran to the area.
I found scattered bodies
703
00:35:41,265 --> 00:35:45,615
and injured women and children.
704
00:35:45,645 --> 00:35:51,037
46 people were killed,
including 5 pregnant women.
705
00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:53,289
If they kill innocent children
and call them Al Qaeda,
706
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,530
then we are all Al Qaeda.
707
00:35:55,696 --> 00:36:00,159
If children are terrorists,
then we are all terrorists.
708
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:22,056
At 6 am they were sleeping
and I was making bread.
709
00:36:22,265 --> 00:36:31,023
When the missiles exploded,
I lost consciousness.
710
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:34,819
I didn't know what happened to my
children, my daughter, my husband.
711
00:36:35,444 --> 00:36:36,696
They all died.
712
00:36:36,863 --> 00:36:42,493
Only I survived, along with this
old man and my daughter.
713
00:36:43,661 --> 00:36:46,164
Missiles attacked me.
714
00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:49,500
And my brother Ibrahim.
715
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,127
And my mother.
716
00:36:51,878 --> 00:36:53,629
Their hands were cut.
717
00:36:59,924 --> 00:37:02,757
The echoes of Gardez
were everywhere...
718
00:37:02,793 --> 00:37:05,284
So many of the details
repeating themselves.
719
00:37:09,133 --> 00:37:11,476
But there was one
important difference.
720
00:37:11,969 --> 00:37:13,596
In Gardez, the American soldiers
721
00:37:13,637 --> 00:37:16,037
went to obscene lengths
to cover up the killings.
722
00:37:17,241 --> 00:37:18,367
Here in Al-Majalah,
723
00:37:18,409 --> 00:37:20,274
despite the official denial,
724
00:37:20,311 --> 00:37:23,074
they'd left their fingerprints
strewn across the desert.
725
00:37:25,281 --> 00:37:27,579
Why would they deny
something so obvious
726
00:37:27,617 --> 00:37:29,107
when anyone who
visited the bomb site
727
00:37:29,152 --> 00:37:30,585
would see the truth?
728
00:37:33,923 --> 00:37:35,515
But maybe that was the point.
729
00:37:35,558 --> 00:37:38,424
There was no declared
war in Yemen.
730
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:40,486
Out here, in the
middle of the desert,
731
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:42,829
no one was looking.
732
00:37:42,866 --> 00:37:44,959
And the one local reporter
investigating the bombing
733
00:37:45,002 --> 00:37:46,367
had disappeared.
734
00:37:47,558 --> 00:37:52,450
The decision to arrest me was
made the day I exposed the cover-up
735
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,038
of the murder of women
and children in Abyan.
736
00:37:57,068 --> 00:38:01,489
The day I exposed those who sent
cruise missiles to Bedouin camps.
737
00:38:02,281 --> 00:38:04,091
ABDULELAH HAIDER SHAYE
YEMENI JOURNALIST
738
00:38:04,121 --> 00:38:06,589
Abdulelah Haider Shaye had
traveled to Al-Majalah
739
00:38:06,623 --> 00:38:08,590
immediately after the strike,
740
00:38:08,624 --> 00:38:11,923
and his reporting sparked
national outrage.
741
00:38:11,961 --> 00:38:13,929
Soon after, his house was raided
742
00:38:13,963 --> 00:38:17,160
by Yemen's American-trained
counter-terrorism forces.
743
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,100
Abdulelah was thrown in prison.
744
00:38:19,135 --> 00:38:21,126
Posters demanding his return
745
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:22,501
were hung around the capital.
746
00:38:26,534 --> 00:38:28,562
ABDULRAH MAN BARMAN
ABDULELAH'S LAWYER
747
00:38:28,678 --> 00:38:30,806
I met Abdulelah's
lawyer at a teahouse
748
00:38:30,848 --> 00:38:32,615
because his office
was under attack.
749
00:38:32,645 --> 00:38:37,274
They fired over 120
shells into my office.
750
00:38:37,304 --> 00:38:40,039
And now we can't reach it
751
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:42,488
because the Republican Guard
are deployed in the area.
752
00:38:47,994 --> 00:38:56,514
In court, I noticed that one of
Abdulelah's teeth had been pulled.
753
00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:58,253
And another
had been broken.
754
00:38:58,283 --> 00:39:01,215
And he had
scars on his chest.
755
00:39:01,911 --> 00:39:04,379
My understanding was that
President Ali Abdullah Saleh
756
00:39:04,414 --> 00:39:07,076
was going to pardon
Abdulelah Haider.
757
00:39:07,106 --> 00:39:10,027
The president
agreed to release him.
758
00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:14,020
But that same day, the
president got a call from Obama
759
00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:19,817
expressing concern
about Abdulelah's release.
760
00:39:21,565 --> 00:39:24,432
I'd heard the story
many times in Yemen-
761
00:39:24,468 --> 00:39:26,095
President Obama
personally intervening
762
00:39:26,136 --> 00:39:28,502
to keep a respected Yemeni
journalist in prison.
763
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:31,430
It sounded far-fetched to me.
764
00:39:32,943 --> 00:39:34,137
But then I found this
765
00:39:34,178 --> 00:39:36,806
on the White House's
own website,
766
00:39:36,847 --> 00:39:38,109
a readout from a phone call
767
00:39:38,148 --> 00:39:41,015
between Obama and the
Yemeni president.
768
00:39:41,051 --> 00:39:43,280
They badly misspelled
Abdulelah's name,
769
00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:45,787
but Obama's point was clear.
770
00:39:45,822 --> 00:39:48,086
He wanted him kept in jail.
771
00:39:52,895 --> 00:39:55,022
Al-Majalah was the
first reported strike
772
00:39:55,064 --> 00:39:56,759
inside Yemen in seven years.
773
00:39:59,235 --> 00:40:00,827
It was clearly a U.S.
Cruise missile
774
00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:02,701
that struck the Bedouin camp.
775
00:40:04,073 --> 00:40:06,304
Since there was no
declared war in Yemen,
776
00:40:06,343 --> 00:40:08,868
I knew the strike was
either JSOC or the CIA.
777
00:40:12,082 --> 00:40:13,447
And then I found this photo.
778
00:40:15,953 --> 00:40:17,887
The U.S. would have
never released it,
779
00:40:17,921 --> 00:40:21,379
but Yemen's president posted
it on his personal website-
780
00:40:21,425 --> 00:40:25,054
a presidential meeting with
an important American guest,
781
00:40:25,095 --> 00:40:27,757
the head of the Joint
Special Operations Command,
782
00:40:27,798 --> 00:40:30,288
Admiral William McRaven.
783
00:41:00,898 --> 00:41:02,525
Joining us now is
Jeremy Scahill,
784
00:41:02,566 --> 00:41:05,034
national security correspondent
for The Nation magazine.
785
00:41:05,068 --> 00:41:06,330
His latest article is all about
786
00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:07,735
the U.S. relationship
with Yemen.
787
00:41:07,771 --> 00:41:09,068
Jeremy, thank you
for joining us.
788
00:41:09,106 --> 00:41:10,106
Thank you.
789
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:11,334
Back in New York,
790
00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:13,343
I started writing
stories about JSOC,
791
00:41:13,377 --> 00:41:15,844
their rise to lead
force in Afghanistan,
792
00:41:15,878 --> 00:41:18,005
their covert strikes in Yemen,
793
00:41:18,047 --> 00:41:19,139
and it felt as though
794
00:41:19,182 --> 00:41:20,672
I had crossed an
invisible tripwire.
795
00:41:20,716 --> 00:41:21,978
The reality is that
796
00:41:22,018 --> 00:41:24,578
U.S. counter-terrorism
obsession with Yemen
797
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:26,019
trumped concern
for human rights.
798
00:41:26,055 --> 00:41:27,750
- That's not true.
- And it's-
799
00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:29,690
Well, it is true.
- It's not true.
800
00:41:29,725 --> 00:41:30,885
Yup, back there.
801
00:41:30,927 --> 00:41:32,360
Does the Pentagon
have any comment
802
00:41:32,395 --> 00:41:34,886
on a report in The Nation today?
803
00:41:34,931 --> 00:41:35,955
And my question is...
804
00:41:35,998 --> 00:41:37,022
...Yeah, I guess... I... I...
805
00:41:37,066 --> 00:41:38,192
...The question is...
806
00:41:38,234 --> 00:41:40,567
you keep denying
covert operations.
807
00:41:40,604 --> 00:41:42,366
Isn't this yet more
evidence of one?
808
00:41:42,405 --> 00:41:43,565
Okay.
809
00:41:43,606 --> 00:41:46,235
Despite whatever
conspiratorial theories
810
00:41:46,276 --> 00:41:49,404
that, you know, magazines
or broadcast outlets
811
00:41:49,446 --> 00:41:51,175
may want to cook up,
812
00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:52,842
there's nothing to it.
813
00:41:52,883 --> 00:41:54,214
So, Jeremy, let me ask you,
814
00:41:54,251 --> 00:41:58,017
have we been going into
all of these countries
815
00:41:58,055 --> 00:42:00,888
over the past decade
with drone attacks,
816
00:42:00,924 --> 00:42:04,552
dropping bombs in countries
where we haven't declared war?
817
00:42:04,594 --> 00:42:06,425
The lack of response
from the major media
818
00:42:06,462 --> 00:42:08,293
and the CIA and all
the rest of it
819
00:42:08,331 --> 00:42:11,198
suggests they're dismissing
what you've done.
820
00:42:11,234 --> 00:42:12,997
I receive a call, unprompted,
821
00:42:13,035 --> 00:42:15,970
from a Captain James Kirby,
822
00:42:16,005 --> 00:42:17,905
who is the spokesperson
for Admiral Mike Mullen.
823
00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:19,407
Calls me on my cell phone.
824
00:42:19,442 --> 00:42:21,410
Wouldn't tell me how he
got my cell phone number.
825
00:42:21,444 --> 00:42:23,412
Wouldn't tell me who told
him about the story.
826
00:42:23,446 --> 00:42:24,913
This is hours from publication.
827
00:42:24,947 --> 00:42:26,210
And told me that
828
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,581
if we published this
story in The Nation
829
00:42:27,618 --> 00:42:29,210
that I would be "on thin ice."
830
00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:30,776
That was a direct quote.
831
00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:32,617
And I said, "Well,
I want to know
832
00:42:32,655 --> 00:42:33,953
"how you heard about this story,
833
00:42:33,991 --> 00:42:35,515
and I want to know how
you got my number."
834
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,599
And he said, "Let's just say
that I heard about it."
835
00:42:41,798 --> 00:42:43,425
I wasn't sleeping well,
836
00:42:43,467 --> 00:42:45,526
and insomnia fueled my anxiety.
837
00:42:48,038 --> 00:42:49,766
My computer had been hacked
838
00:42:49,805 --> 00:42:51,568
and part of my
hard drive copied.
839
00:42:54,243 --> 00:42:57,235
It was difficult not to feel a
creeping sense of paranoia.
840
00:42:59,915 --> 00:43:01,815
And then I got another
strange phone call.
841
00:43:05,521 --> 00:43:07,455
I had no idea why he called me
842
00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:10,288
or how he got my number.
843
00:43:10,326 --> 00:43:12,521
I thought it might be a setup.
844
00:43:12,561 --> 00:43:13,688
Every story I worked on
845
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:15,789
seemed to trace back to JSOC.
846
00:43:15,832 --> 00:43:17,561
And now, out of the blue,
847
00:43:17,601 --> 00:43:19,932
someone from the inside
was reaching out to me.
848
00:43:23,774 --> 00:43:25,264
I had met operators before
849
00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:27,072
in my research on Blackwater
850
00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:28,577
but no one as close to the heart
851
00:43:28,612 --> 00:43:30,443
of JSOC's covert operations.
852
00:43:31,948 --> 00:43:34,508
He sent me photos
of his DOD badges.
853
00:43:34,551 --> 00:43:36,848
But I still couldn't
help wondering,
854
00:43:36,886 --> 00:43:38,854
was I investigating JSOC,
855
00:43:38,888 --> 00:43:40,788
or were they investigating me?
856
00:43:54,837 --> 00:43:56,464
Explain what JSOC is.
857
00:43:57,936 --> 00:44:00,241
The Joint Special Operations Command
[Distorted voice]
858
00:44:00,249 --> 00:44:03,420
handles all the sensitive
counter-terrorism missions,
859
00:44:03,437 --> 00:44:05,671
as the US government directs.
860
00:44:06,072 --> 00:44:08,822
And over time that
was perverted into
861
00:44:08,893 --> 00:44:11,745
doing things that are far
outside of its mandate.
862
00:44:12,356 --> 00:44:14,517
What has JSOC been
doing in Yemen?
863
00:44:15,182 --> 00:44:16,596
Air strikes...
864
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:18,847
Targeted killings...
865
00:44:19,463 --> 00:44:21,784
Targeted killings inside
the borders of Yemen?
866
00:44:21,831 --> 00:44:22,878
Correct.
867
00:44:23,401 --> 00:44:25,987
The world is a battlefield
and we are at war.
868
00:44:26,065 --> 00:44:29,659
Therefore the Joint Special Operations
Command can go wherever they please,
869
00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:32,377
and do whatever it is
that they want to do
870
00:44:32,573 --> 00:44:34,440
in order to achieve
871
00:44:34,479 --> 00:44:36,463
the national security
objectives of
872
00:44:37,268 --> 00:44:39,487
whichever administration
happens to be in power.
873
00:44:40,049 --> 00:44:41,880
Were there ways that
JSOC was being used
874
00:44:41,917 --> 00:44:43,509
that you found objectionable?
875
00:44:44,253 --> 00:44:45,323
I did.
876
00:44:45,995 --> 00:44:46,995
Ah...
877
00:44:47,526 --> 00:44:48,839
there was...
878
00:44:51,047 --> 00:44:52,750
a lot of trepidation about
879
00:44:52,805 --> 00:44:55,070
what we were being asked to do, and where.
880
00:44:55,367 --> 00:44:56,718
And for what purpose.
881
00:44:57,508 --> 00:44:58,508
Ah...
882
00:45:00,047 --> 00:45:01,562
A lot of it was of
883
00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:03,344
questionable legality.
884
00:45:04,062 --> 00:45:05,727
And most of it
885
00:45:06,102 --> 00:45:08,812
was outside of any
stated battlefield.
886
00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:12,086
Kinetic operations, whether
it's capture of kill,
887
00:45:12,344 --> 00:45:13,906
and some cases, it's detain
888
00:45:14,141 --> 00:45:17,422
people as directed by the
United States Government.
889
00:45:17,625 --> 00:45:22,445
They launched their own
internalized interrogation program
890
00:45:22,641 --> 00:45:26,672
without the knowledge of the
conventional US military forces
891
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,891
or even the Central Intelligence Agency.
892
00:45:29,097 --> 00:45:31,972
Because of the extreme secrecy
surrounding the program,
893
00:45:32,050 --> 00:45:34,456
there was a variety of abuses.
894
00:45:34,837 --> 00:45:35,998
Torture?
895
00:45:38,298 --> 00:45:39,892
I would say that, yes.
896
00:45:39,954 --> 00:45:41,149
The President has
897
00:45:41,369 --> 00:45:42,415
made
898
00:45:42,806 --> 00:45:45,626
a political and
military calculation
899
00:45:46,142 --> 00:45:49,040
to let the Joint Special
Operations Command run wild.
900
00:45:49,633 --> 00:45:51,647
So you're saying JSOC
is able to hit harder
901
00:45:51,688 --> 00:45:52,814
under President Obama
902
00:45:52,856 --> 00:45:54,517
than they were under
President Bush?
903
00:45:54,783 --> 00:45:56,402
Harder, faster, quicker
904
00:45:56,408 --> 00:45:58,205
with the full support
of the the White House.
905
00:46:12,107 --> 00:46:13,631
On my last day in Sana'a,
906
00:46:13,676 --> 00:46:15,871
a file had been left
for me at my hotel...
907
00:46:17,033 --> 00:46:19,866
A leaked investigation into
the strike of Al-Majalah.
908
00:46:21,244 --> 00:46:23,299
It included a list of the dead.
909
00:46:28,925 --> 00:46:31,189
In Iraq, they had
a deck of cards,
910
00:46:31,228 --> 00:46:33,219
a list of 55 names.
911
00:46:34,830 --> 00:46:36,422
But the cards were not enough.
912
00:46:36,465 --> 00:46:37,932
New lists were needed.
913
00:46:37,967 --> 00:46:39,229
Longer lists.
914
00:46:39,268 --> 00:46:40,497
At the end of each list,
915
00:46:40,537 --> 00:46:42,801
another and another,
916
00:46:42,839 --> 00:46:44,430
an endless list of names.
917
00:46:53,516 --> 00:46:56,007
In Al-Majalah, the
list numbered 46.
918
00:46:57,219 --> 00:46:59,653
14 of the names were women.
919
00:46:59,688 --> 00:47:02,179
21 were children.
920
00:47:02,224 --> 00:47:03,623
Who were they trying to kill?
921
00:47:06,362 --> 00:47:09,263
A week after Al-Majalah,
there was another strike.
922
00:47:09,298 --> 00:47:10,823
And this time, the
Yemeni government
923
00:47:10,867 --> 00:47:13,665
issued a press release
naming the intended targets,
924
00:47:13,703 --> 00:47:16,137
but none of them
had been killed.
925
00:47:16,172 --> 00:47:19,073
For the first time, I had
names on the kill list
926
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:21,703
of people who were still alive.
927
00:47:21,745 --> 00:47:23,939
Two of them were
publicly known leaders:
928
00:47:23,979 --> 00:47:25,776
Shihiri and Waheshi.
929
00:47:25,814 --> 00:47:28,305
But the last name
gave me a chill:
930
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:30,114
Anwar Al-Awlaki.
931
00:47:30,153 --> 00:47:31,585
I knew the name,
932
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:33,520
but I couldn't believe
I was seeing it here
933
00:47:33,556 --> 00:47:35,786
on this list.
934
00:47:35,824 --> 00:47:37,815
Awlaki was an American citizen.
935
00:47:38,757 --> 00:47:40,453
The Christmas Day
bombing attempt
936
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:42,507
has everybody on alert tonight.
937
00:47:42,513 --> 00:47:44,037
Investigators
connecting the dots,
938
00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:46,067
and a key focus in
the investigation
939
00:47:46,101 --> 00:47:47,568
is a radical Islamic cleric.
940
00:47:47,603 --> 00:47:49,400
That man is Anwar Al-Awlaki,
941
00:47:49,438 --> 00:47:51,030
an exiled American who was...
942
00:47:51,073 --> 00:47:54,065
Just as I was investigating
the expanding war in Yemen,
943
00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:56,100
it seemed Awlaki's
name was everywhere.
944
00:47:57,447 --> 00:47:59,915
The War on Terror
suddenly had a new face.
945
00:47:59,950 --> 00:48:02,077
Radical cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki
946
00:48:02,118 --> 00:48:03,415
may now be as grave a threat
947
00:48:03,453 --> 00:48:05,580
as Osama bin Laden himself.
948
00:48:05,622 --> 00:48:07,385
Awlaki, Holder says,
949
00:48:07,424 --> 00:48:09,221
is a clear and present danger.
950
00:48:09,259 --> 00:48:11,354
He's an extremely dangerous man.
951
00:48:11,378 --> 00:48:12,992
Does the U.S.
have a preference
952
00:48:13,028 --> 00:48:14,791
in terms of Al-Awlaki:
953
00:48:14,830 --> 00:48:16,580
Dead, captured, or prosecuted?
954
00:48:16,624 --> 00:48:18,524
Well, we certainly want
to neutralize him,
955
00:48:18,701 --> 00:48:22,660
and we will do whatever we
can in order to do that.
956
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,900
An American was
on the kill list.
957
00:48:27,409 --> 00:48:29,570
It felt to me like we'd
walked off a cliff.
958
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,947
Awlaki had been
sentenced to death
959
00:48:32,982 --> 00:48:34,813
without even being
charged with a crime.
960
00:48:37,946 --> 00:48:39,847
Awlaki's father filed a lawsuit
961
00:48:39,888 --> 00:48:42,083
with the help of the Center
for Constitutional Rights
962
00:48:42,124 --> 00:48:43,716
and the ACLU.
963
00:48:43,759 --> 00:48:45,352
He demanded that the
government provide
964
00:48:45,395 --> 00:48:48,125
whatever evidence they
had against his son.
965
00:48:48,164 --> 00:48:49,654
But the government refused.
966
00:48:49,699 --> 00:48:51,667
They had ordered
the assassination
967
00:48:51,701 --> 00:48:53,191
of a U.S. citizen
968
00:48:53,236 --> 00:48:55,136
but said the evidence
itself was too dangerous
969
00:48:55,171 --> 00:48:56,536
to be made public.
970
00:48:56,573 --> 00:48:59,872
What kind of protections
does this American have
971
00:48:59,909 --> 00:49:02,103
against being assassinated
by his own government?
972
00:49:02,144 --> 00:49:04,442
Yeah, it almost
sounds kind of funny
973
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,606
in an ironic way
when you say that.
974
00:49:06,648 --> 00:49:09,618
You know, you have the right
not to be assassinated.
975
00:49:11,487 --> 00:49:13,011
A bill was introduced
in Congress
976
00:49:13,055 --> 00:49:16,422
to ban the extra-judicial
assassination of Americans,
977
00:49:16,458 --> 00:49:18,449
but only six
congressmen signed on.
978
00:49:19,962 --> 00:49:22,226
And the people who should have
known what was happening,
979
00:49:22,264 --> 00:49:24,357
the members of the
intelligence committees,
980
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,560
couldn't tell me anything.
981
00:49:25,601 --> 00:49:27,136
When there is a lethal operation
982
00:49:27,142 --> 00:49:29,210
and a high-value
person is killed,
983
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,987
the president, of course,
acknowledged that we killed...
984
00:49:30,993 --> 00:49:32,090
- He can't-
- Huh?
985
00:49:32,096 --> 00:49:35,482
He can't confirm there have been any
lethal operations outside of a war zone.
986
00:49:36,358 --> 00:49:38,685
SEN. RON WYDEN
SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
987
00:49:38,982 --> 00:49:40,279
Has there been any legal review
988
00:49:40,316 --> 00:49:41,874
of the potential for
lethal operations
989
00:49:41,918 --> 00:49:43,476
against American citizens?
990
00:49:45,288 --> 00:49:47,119
- Not to our knowledge.
- Is that classified?
991
00:49:48,858 --> 00:49:52,917
It's important for the
American people to know
992
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,260
when the President can
kill an American citizen
993
00:49:56,298 --> 00:49:58,061
and when they can't.
994
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:03,367
And yet it is almost as if
there are two laws in America,
995
00:50:03,405 --> 00:50:05,703
and the American people
996
00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:08,835
would be extraordinarily
surprised
997
00:50:08,877 --> 00:50:11,072
if they could see the difference
998
00:50:11,113 --> 00:50:15,174
between what they
believe a law says
999
00:50:15,217 --> 00:50:19,017
and how it has actually
been interpreted in secret.
1000
00:50:19,054 --> 00:50:20,352
You're not permitted
1001
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:22,255
to disclose that
difference publicly.
1002
00:50:22,292 --> 00:50:23,384
That's correct.
1003
00:50:42,413 --> 00:50:43,983
I wasn't surprised
when Washington
1004
00:50:43,992 --> 00:50:45,849
ignored the killings in Gardez.
1005
00:50:47,416 --> 00:50:50,214
But this was an
American citizen.
1006
00:50:50,252 --> 00:50:52,652
The country was now
targeting one of its own.
1007
00:50:54,383 --> 00:50:55,852
Even John Walker Lindh,
1008
00:50:55,891 --> 00:50:57,381
who'd taken up arms
with the Taliban,
1009
00:50:57,426 --> 00:50:58,552
was given a trial.
1010
00:51:00,229 --> 00:51:02,197
What had Awlaki done?
1011
00:51:02,231 --> 00:51:04,631
And why was the U.S. willing
to cross such a dangerous line
1012
00:51:04,666 --> 00:51:05,997
to have him killed?
1013
00:51:12,342 --> 00:51:15,470
I read everything I
could about Awlaki.
1014
00:51:15,512 --> 00:51:18,140
It was obvious that he was an
immensely popular preacher
1015
00:51:18,181 --> 00:51:19,443
with a large following
1016
00:51:19,482 --> 00:51:21,040
among young
English-speaking Muslims
1017
00:51:21,084 --> 00:51:22,176
around the world.
1018
00:51:23,653 --> 00:51:25,120
On his blog, he openly praised
1019
00:51:25,155 --> 00:51:27,452
some of the attacks
against the U.S.
1020
00:51:27,489 --> 00:51:29,820
But this in itself was
clearly not a crime.
1021
00:51:33,046 --> 00:51:35,619
I spoke with former CIA
and military officials.
1022
00:51:35,649 --> 00:51:37,120
PHIL GIRALDI
CAREER CIA CASE OFFICER
1023
00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:38,771
They argued that
Awlaki's speeches
1024
00:51:38,801 --> 00:51:40,455
were inspiring
domestic terrorists.
1025
00:51:40,485 --> 00:51:42,045
EMILE NAKHLEH
CIA POLITICAL ISLAM DMSION
1026
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There were a lot of words
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COL. PATRICK LANG
DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
from both Awlaki and the U.S. Gov.
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but no concrete
piece of evidence
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LT. COL. ANTHONY SHAFFER
CIA - LEADERSHIP TARGETING CELL
that he was an operational figure
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LT. COL. ANTHONY SHAFFER
CIA - LEADERSHIP TARGETING CELL
in any attacks.
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I remembered seeing him on
TV nearly a decade earlier,
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just after 9/11.
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ANWAR AL AWLAKI
FALLS CHURCH, VA - 2001
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And it was difficult
to reconcile
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the image of a new bin Laden
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with Awlaki's earlier sermons
condemning terrorism.
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The fact that the U.S.
has administered
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the death and homicide
of civilians in Iraq
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does not justify the killing
of one U.S. Civilian
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in New York City or
Washington, D.C.
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For a short time, Awlaki
seemed like the go-to imam
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for journalists
trying to understand
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the experience of
American Muslims
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in the wake of the attacks.
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He was even profiled
by the Washington Post
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for a piece about Ramadan.
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After September 11th...
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All of the feelings of
the American Muslims
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were similar to everybody
else in America:
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Feelings of sympathy
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for the families of the victims
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and a sense of...
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That whoever did this needed
to be brought to justice.
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A decade after this
video was filmed,
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Awlaki had become Public
Enemy Number One,
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his name at the very
top of the kill list.
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It felt like the War on
Terror was turning on itself.
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I was now investigating
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the planned assassination
of a U.S. Citizen-
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a watershed event.
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SANA'A, YEMEN
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For the first time,
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I had the name of someone
on the kill list
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who had not yet been killed.
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Anwar Al-Awlaki was
now a wanted man
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hiding somewhere in the
mountains of Yemen.
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I knew I wouldn't be able
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to speak with Awlaki directly...
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But through a series
of intermediaries,
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I managed to set up a
meeting with his father.
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I expected him to be reluctant
to speak about his son,
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but he seemed happy to reminisce
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about an earlier time.
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Anwar was an all-American boy.
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This is in Disneyland, you know,
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in 1984, I think.
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This is in San Diego when
he was already an imam
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with a big beard, you know.
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At that time, he was asking
Muslims to participate
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in the democratic
process in America.
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In fact, during the presidential
campaign of George Bush,
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he thought the
conservative Republicans
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will be better than the
liberal Democrats,
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and he encouraged
the Muslims there
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to elect George Bush.
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Didn't he even, at one point,
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attend a luncheon
at the Pentagon?
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Yes.
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You see, he liked America,
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and he wanted to stay and
really-his life in America,
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but things came differently.
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Can you explain to me why
your son went into hiding?
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After the incident
of Al-Majalah
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and Anwar was all over the news,
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the drones started
to fly over Shabwah.
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So, you know, Anwar
was really concerned.
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And so we took his
family with us,
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and he left to the mountains.
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Hmm?
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Myself, at this age in my life,
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I really cannot ever replace,
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you know, the role of my son
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as he was doing for his family.
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From my reading of the
history of your son,
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from his writing,
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it seemed as though there
was a transformation
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that happened
politically for him
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from 9/11 to the
invasion of Iraq.
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Something started to
change in his tone.
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Yes.
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Anwar became popular
before September 11th
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because his sermons
and his tapes,
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you know, were very popular
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all over the
English-speaking world.
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And then the invasion
came in 2003,
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and they invaded Iraq
and destroyed Iraq,
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so Anwar really started
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to be more vocal in his speeches
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against what the
Americans were doing
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against Muslims all
over the world.
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There's no doubt that
your son praised
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some of the attacks
against the U.S.
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And for many Americans,
it was enough to say,
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"Anwar Al-Awlaki
is a terrorist."
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But also, I want
decent American lawyer
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to tell me that it is right
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for the United States government
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to kill an American citizen
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on the basis that
he said something
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against the United States or
against American soldiers.
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I mean, I-I don't understand.
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I don't understand 100% the
American Constitution,
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but I don't believe
American law will allow
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the killing of an
American citizen
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because he said something
against the United States.
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Anwar's father may have
been calling for justice
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under American law,
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but American drones were
already flying overhead.
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The fact that they were trying
to kill an American citizen
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was shocking enough.
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But there was another reason
Awlaki's story haunted me.
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We are against evil,
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and America as a whole
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has turned into a
nation of evil.
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How can your conscience
allow you to...
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Awlaki seemed to have
embraced the very identity
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he once opposed:
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The military jacket,
the black flag,
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the unequivocal call
for armed jihad.
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I specifically invite the youth
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to either fight in the West
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or join their brothers
in the fronts of jihad.
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The all-American boy was gone
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00:57:49,371 --> 00:57:51,202
and so was the moderate imam.
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00:57:52,641 --> 00:57:53,801
But why?
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Awlaki was deeply affected
by the War on Terror
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both abroad and at home.
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The day after September 11th,
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a woman stumbled into
his mosque in Virginia
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after being beaten
with a baseball bat.
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More than 1,200
Muslims were detained
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across the country.
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You have Muslims who
are locked up in jail
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and are left to rot in there.
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There are no charges
brought against them.
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What have you done for them?
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Awlaki resigned from
the mosque soon after
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and left the country.
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But the wars in Afghanistan
and Iraq followed.
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00:58:51,265 --> 00:58:53,961
And, well, this
is a new kind of-
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a new kind of evil.
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And this-this-this-this-
this crusade...
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Is gonna take a while.
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Awlaki began to see
the expanding wars
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as part of a global
attack against Islam,
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and his sermons reflected
a growing anger.
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We are watching one Muslim
nation fall after another,
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and we're watching,
sitting back,
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doing nothing.
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After 9/11,
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Awlaki was put under
surveillance,
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detained at airports,
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and repeatedly
interrogated by the FBI.
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When he returned to Yemen,
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local officials arrested him
on orders from Washington.
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He was locked up for
a year and a half
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without charge
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and spent 17 months in
solitary confinement.
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When he was finally released,
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Awlaki was a changed man.
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And after JSOC
tried to kill him,
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his transformation was complete.
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Eventually came
to the conclusion
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that jihad against America
is binding upon myself...
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This is not a war of choice.
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Just as it is binding on
every other able Muslim.
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This is a war of necessity.
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They seemed like mirror
images of one another,
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strangely distorted,
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01:00:06,574 --> 01:00:07,700
America's wars
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and Awlaki's words.
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This will not be quick...
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War against Islam and Muslim...
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Nor easy.
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Like a self-fulfilling
prophecy,
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the United States had
helped create the very man
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it was now trying to kill.
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America was my home.
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Those who attacked
America on 9/11
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are plotting to do so again.
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Awlaki's journey,
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from a voice of moderation
to one of retribution,
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cut to the heart of
the larger story
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I was investigating.
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01:00:29,496 --> 01:00:31,623
[Indistinct conversations]
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Anybody...
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Anybody belongs to Al-Qaeda...
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I'd seen the same
pattern repeatedly.
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01:00:41,677 --> 01:00:43,477
America was trying to
kill its way to victory.
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01:00:43,512 --> 01:00:45,036
Now got a new target list...
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01:00:45,081 --> 01:00:47,140
But the War on Terror was
producing new enemies
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01:00:47,183 --> 01:00:48,342
wherever it spread.
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01:00:48,383 --> 01:00:49,543
How did this grow?
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01:00:56,624 --> 01:00:58,387
How does a war like
that ever end?
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Good evening.
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Tonight, I can report
to the American people
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01:01:10,372 --> 01:01:11,896
and to the world
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01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:14,238
that the United States has
conducted an operation
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01:01:14,275 --> 01:01:16,573
that killed Osama bin Laden,
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01:01:16,611 --> 01:01:18,669
the leader of Al-Qaeda.
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01:01:18,712 --> 01:01:20,145
Again, for those
just joining us,
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01:01:20,180 --> 01:01:22,375
Osama bin Laden is dead,
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01:01:22,416 --> 01:01:24,214
and one confirmation
we're getting
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01:01:24,252 --> 01:01:28,815
indicates that this is a
special operations raid.
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01:01:28,858 --> 01:01:30,291
And I think an organization
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01:01:30,326 --> 01:01:32,123
we're gonna hear a lot
about in the coming days
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01:01:32,161 --> 01:01:35,755
is JSOC, the Joint Special
Operations Command.
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01:01:35,797 --> 01:01:37,594
So much for secrecy.
1239
01:01:37,632 --> 01:01:38,929
So much for cover-ups.
1240
01:01:38,967 --> 01:01:41,902
The forces I'd been trying
to unmask since Gardez
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01:01:41,936 --> 01:01:43,369
were suddenly national heroes.
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01:01:43,405 --> 01:01:46,499
The operation was
called Neptune Spear.
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01:01:46,541 --> 01:01:49,476
To capture or kill bin Laden.
1244
01:01:49,511 --> 01:01:52,036
It felt like the world
had turned upside down.
1245
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,674
JSOC, long shrouded in secrecy,
1246
01:01:54,716 --> 01:01:56,377
was becoming a household name.
1247
01:01:58,186 --> 01:01:59,517
But what did it really mean?
1248
01:02:01,689 --> 01:02:03,088
The White House
circulated a photo
1249
01:02:03,124 --> 01:02:04,614
from the night of the raid,
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01:02:04,659 --> 01:02:07,286
perhaps as a picture
of transparency.
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01:02:07,327 --> 01:02:09,056
Everyone was in the room:
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01:02:09,096 --> 01:02:10,428
Secretary of State,
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01:02:10,465 --> 01:02:11,796
Secretary of Defense,
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01:02:11,833 --> 01:02:13,095
Vice President,
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01:02:13,134 --> 01:02:14,727
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
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01:02:14,770 --> 01:02:16,397
the President himself.
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01:02:16,439 --> 01:02:17,804
But it was the
seating arrangement
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that interested me.
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01:02:19,241 --> 01:02:20,435
The man at the head of the table
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wasn't the commander in chief.
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It was McRaven's
assistant at JSOC,
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01:02:24,646 --> 01:02:26,307
General Webb.
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01:02:26,347 --> 01:02:29,339
McRaven himself was running the
operation from Afghanistan.
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01:02:31,619 --> 01:02:35,419
USA! USA! USA! USA!
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01:02:35,457 --> 01:02:37,584
I wasn't mourning
bin Laden's death,
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01:02:37,625 --> 01:02:39,252
but I wasn't celebrating either.
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01:02:40,995 --> 01:02:44,692
After ten years, I understood
that people wanted closure.
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But it didn't feel
like V-E Day to me.
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01:02:47,435 --> 01:02:48,925
Didn't feel like victory at all.
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01:02:53,141 --> 01:02:54,631
The leader of
Al-Qaeda is dead,
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but a new one has
taken his place.
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01:02:57,244 --> 01:03:00,271
Your mission will be to
ensure he meets the same end.
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01:03:00,315 --> 01:03:01,942
Hearing JSOC mentioned
on television
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01:03:01,983 --> 01:03:03,747
was jolting enough,
1275
01:03:03,786 --> 01:03:06,346
but when I saw the admiral
in front of the cameras,
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01:03:06,388 --> 01:03:08,686
it felt like I'd walked
through the looking glass.
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01:03:08,724 --> 01:03:11,521
I am deeply honored that the
President has nominated me
1278
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:13,584
to serve as the next
SOCOM commander.
1279
01:03:13,628 --> 01:03:15,061
And if confirmed...
1280
01:03:15,096 --> 01:03:17,155
William McRaven was now
the toast of Washington.
1281
01:03:17,198 --> 01:03:19,325
Admiral McRaven,
1282
01:03:19,367 --> 01:03:21,665
by leading the mission that
killed Osama bin Laden,
1283
01:03:21,703 --> 01:03:24,467
you and your men won
an enduring place
1284
01:03:24,506 --> 01:03:26,531
in American military history.
1285
01:03:26,574 --> 01:03:29,202
Like all of my colleagues,
1286
01:03:29,244 --> 01:03:31,610
I salute you and
your colleagues'
1287
01:03:31,646 --> 01:03:33,876
and the SEALs'
extraordinary operations.
1288
01:03:33,915 --> 01:03:35,644
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, sir.
1289
01:03:35,683 --> 01:03:37,173
When the congratulations
subsided,
1290
01:03:37,463 --> 01:03:39,869
the senators turned to the
real purpose of the hearings.
1291
01:03:39,875 --> 01:03:43,268
Are you prepared and capable
to expand your operations
1292
01:03:43,324 --> 01:03:45,690
at a moment's notice worldwide?
1293
01:03:45,727 --> 01:03:48,696
As we look out from
Iraq, Afghanistan,
1294
01:03:48,730 --> 01:03:50,698
and, frankly, across the globe,
1295
01:03:50,732 --> 01:03:53,133
as we look at hot spots in Yemen
1296
01:03:53,168 --> 01:03:55,159
where you have Al-Qaeda
in the Arabian Peninsula
1297
01:03:55,204 --> 01:03:57,068
or Somalia where you have
East African Al-Qaeda
1298
01:03:57,105 --> 01:03:58,367
and Al-Shabaab,
1299
01:03:58,406 --> 01:03:59,873
now, these are clearly
areas of concern...
1300
01:03:59,908 --> 01:04:01,170
People in the streets
may have hoped
1301
01:04:01,209 --> 01:04:03,336
the War on Terror
was finally over.
1302
01:04:03,378 --> 01:04:04,675
But in Washington,
1303
01:04:04,712 --> 01:04:06,339
in the corridors of power,
1304
01:04:06,381 --> 01:04:08,110
a new chapter had just begun.
1305
01:04:10,885 --> 01:04:13,479
Right now, it's kinetic.
Hard kill.
1306
01:04:13,521 --> 01:04:15,819
If it's not hard kill,
doesn't get played.
1307
01:04:16,646 --> 01:04:18,296
MALCOLM NANCE
NAVAL INTELLIGENCE
1308
01:04:18,326 --> 01:04:19,884
Soon after the bin Laden strike,
1309
01:04:19,928 --> 01:04:21,122
I met Malcolm Nance,
1310
01:04:21,162 --> 01:04:23,096
a legend in the
world of covert ops
1311
01:04:23,131 --> 01:04:24,564
who'd trained
countless Navy SEALs
1312
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,193
and other JSOC operators.
1313
01:04:27,235 --> 01:04:29,362
I'm a firm believer in
targeted assassination.
1314
01:04:29,404 --> 01:04:32,374
If they are too strong
for your ability
1315
01:04:32,408 --> 01:04:35,069
to negate their capacity
in the battlefield,
1316
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:37,737
then you're just gonna
have to put a hellfire in.
1317
01:04:37,779 --> 01:04:39,576
If they're... if
they are dangerous...
1318
01:04:39,614 --> 01:04:40,638
on a strategic scale
1319
01:04:40,682 --> 01:04:43,173
like Anwar Al-Awlaki
from Yemen...
1320
01:04:43,217 --> 01:04:45,082
definitely has a
missile in his future.
1321
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,280
No longer cloaked in secrecy,
1322
01:04:47,322 --> 01:04:48,653
special ops seemed
to be enjoying
1323
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:50,248
their moment in the sun.
1324
01:04:50,291 --> 01:04:52,384
You know, we went in, we
did the drone strike,
1325
01:04:52,427 --> 01:04:54,088
and-or hellfire strike,
1326
01:04:54,128 --> 01:04:55,595
and we blasted the
individual car
1327
01:04:55,630 --> 01:04:57,757
of a known guy who was known
to be in that vehicle.
1328
01:04:57,799 --> 01:04:59,596
And we flew in, and
we snatched his body-
1329
01:04:59,634 --> 01:05:01,761
we confirmed it... got the
intelligence, went away.
1330
01:05:01,803 --> 01:05:03,395
That's the way we
should be doing it.
1331
01:05:08,977 --> 01:05:10,604
The first time we met,
1332
01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:13,011
he'd called me out of the blue.
1333
01:05:13,047 --> 01:05:14,537
This time, it was me who called.
1334
01:05:16,985 --> 01:05:19,819
JSOC may no longer
have been a secret,
1335
01:05:19,855 --> 01:05:21,516
but that didn't mean
we knew the truth.
1336
01:05:21,847 --> 01:05:23,871
We're now seeing the effects of
1337
01:05:24,972 --> 01:05:29,284
covert intervention in countries
on multiple continents
1338
01:05:30,049 --> 01:05:33,917
without any thought to
future repercussions.
1339
01:05:34,355 --> 01:05:36,605
And it is radically expanded.
1340
01:05:36,824 --> 01:05:38,761
At one point it was 40 countries,
1341
01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,151
it is now expanded to over 75.
1342
01:05:41,495 --> 01:05:43,432
And there are dozens,
1343
01:05:43,518 --> 01:05:45,260
if not hundreds,
1344
01:05:45,276 --> 01:05:47,479
of concurrent operations.
1345
01:05:48,049 --> 01:05:50,210
But, in theory, Congress is
supposed to have oversight
1346
01:05:50,251 --> 01:05:51,411
of these operations.
1347
01:05:51,603 --> 01:05:53,673
They don't want to
step into the dark,
1348
01:05:54,002 --> 01:05:56,213
and see what goes on
behind the curtain.
1349
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,619
Joint Special Operations Command
1350
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,488
became a paramilitary arm
of the administration,
1351
01:06:02,494 --> 01:06:05,181
and billions upon
billions of dollars
1352
01:06:05,197 --> 01:06:07,674
was poured into JSOC.
1353
01:06:08,236 --> 01:06:10,025
What we have essentially done
1354
01:06:10,093 --> 01:06:12,602
is created one hell of a hammer.
1355
01:06:13,211 --> 01:06:15,562
And for the rest of our generation,
1356
01:06:15,987 --> 01:06:17,862
for the rest of my lifetime,
1357
01:06:18,753 --> 01:06:22,377
this force will be continually
searching for a nail.
1358
01:06:29,023 --> 01:06:31,890
Bin Laden's death had given
the War on Terror new life.
1359
01:06:34,796 --> 01:06:37,993
After 9/11, there were seven
people on the kill list.
1360
01:06:38,032 --> 01:06:40,865
In Iraq, 55 on the
deck of cards.
1361
01:06:40,902 --> 01:06:42,893
By Afghanistan, there
were thousands.
1362
01:06:44,739 --> 01:06:47,367
But now the list
itself was changing.
1363
01:06:47,408 --> 01:06:48,773
Signature strikes,
1364
01:06:48,810 --> 01:06:49,810
TADS,
1365
01:06:49,844 --> 01:06:51,675
crowd killing-
1366
01:06:51,713 --> 01:06:53,442
a target list was
no longer needed
1367
01:06:53,481 --> 01:06:55,507
to justify a strike
like Al-Majalah.
1368
01:06:56,686 --> 01:06:58,551
All boys over the age of 15,
1369
01:06:58,721 --> 01:07:00,620
all men under the age of 70
1370
01:07:00,655 --> 01:07:02,987
were now fair game
in targeted areas.
1371
01:07:04,958 --> 01:07:06,448
Like a flywheel,
1372
01:07:06,493 --> 01:07:09,054
the global War on Terror was
spinning out of control.
1373
01:07:18,806 --> 01:07:20,273
When I began this story,
1374
01:07:20,308 --> 01:07:22,776
the U.S. was at war in
Iraq and Afghanistan.
1375
01:07:24,145 --> 01:07:26,272
The bombing in Al-Majalah
brought me to Yemen.
1376
01:07:27,115 --> 01:07:28,548
But the list of countries
1377
01:07:28,583 --> 01:07:31,313
where U.S. Special Forces
were operating had grown,
1378
01:07:31,352 --> 01:07:33,047
just as the kill list had.
1379
01:07:34,168 --> 01:07:36,013
Algeria, Indonesia,
1380
01:07:36,057 --> 01:07:38,582
Thailand, Panama, Jordan-
1381
01:07:39,427 --> 01:07:41,361
the world was now a battlefield.
1382
01:07:42,955 --> 01:07:45,890
It was hard to know
where to go next.
1383
01:07:45,956 --> 01:07:48,947
In Pakistan, the U.S. was
launching weekly drone strikes.
1384
01:07:49,203 --> 01:07:51,500
In Mali, they were
hunting Al-Qaeda.
1385
01:07:51,538 --> 01:07:54,234
In Latin America,
targeting drug cartels.
1386
01:07:55,509 --> 01:07:57,534
I decided to go to Somalia,
1387
01:07:57,577 --> 01:07:59,205
where an escalated
kill/capture program
1388
01:07:59,247 --> 01:08:00,407
was under way.
1389
01:08:07,822 --> 01:08:09,949
Just as McRaven had testified,
1390
01:08:09,991 --> 01:08:12,084
the war was erupting
in East Africa.
1391
01:08:13,694 --> 01:08:15,662
Drone strikes were increasing.
1392
01:08:15,696 --> 01:08:18,460
There were suicide bombings
in Kampala and Mogadishu.
1393
01:08:18,499 --> 01:08:20,228
And JSOC was on the ground,
1394
01:08:20,268 --> 01:08:22,236
snatching bodies and
flying them back to ships
1395
01:08:22,270 --> 01:08:23,612
in the Arabian Sea.
1396
01:08:23,642 --> 01:08:25,936
ADEN ADDE AIRPORT
MOGADISHU, SOMALIA
1397
01:08:26,941 --> 01:08:28,738
Almost as soon as I arrived,
1398
01:08:28,776 --> 01:08:30,576
I sensed that things
weren't going to go well.
1399
01:08:34,049 --> 01:08:36,984
Mogadishu was seeing its
worst fighting in years,
1400
01:08:37,019 --> 01:08:39,247
and there were no foreign
journalists left in the city.
1401
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:42,388
My local contact, Bashir Osman,
1402
01:08:42,422 --> 01:08:44,049
was worried about my safety.
1403
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:45,090
Okay?
1404
01:08:45,091 --> 01:08:46,319
It's okay.
1405
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:47,418
All right.
1406
01:08:53,267 --> 01:08:54,894
It was a strange feeling,
1407
01:08:54,936 --> 01:08:56,301
traveling with a dozen armed men
1408
01:08:56,337 --> 01:08:57,497
in a decoy car.
1409
01:08:58,806 --> 01:09:00,774
I still had my
reporter's notebook,
1410
01:09:00,808 --> 01:09:03,140
but what could I learn in
conditions like these?
1411
01:09:10,585 --> 01:09:13,053
Before arriving in Somalia,
I had read reports
1412
01:09:13,087 --> 01:09:15,055
that the U.S. was
outsourcing the kill lists
1413
01:09:15,089 --> 01:09:16,887
to local warlords.
1414
01:09:19,895 --> 01:09:21,886
Among the most
powerful in Mogadishu
1415
01:09:21,930 --> 01:09:23,727
was Yusuf Mohamed Siad,
1416
01:09:23,765 --> 01:09:25,823
known by everyone as Indha Adde,
1417
01:09:25,867 --> 01:09:27,390
"White Eyes."
1418
01:09:31,001 --> 01:09:33,337
GEN. INDHA ADDE
US-BACKED SOMALI ARMY
1419
01:09:35,942 --> 01:09:38,969
In an earlier life, Indha Adde
had been America's enemy,
1420
01:09:39,013 --> 01:09:42,414
offering protection to people
on the U.S. kill list.
1421
01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:44,350
But the warlord had
since changed sides.
1422
01:09:44,947 --> 01:09:46,945
He was now on the U.S. payroll
1423
01:09:46,988 --> 01:09:49,252
and assumed the
title of general.
1424
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,019
So he's saying that
the fiercest fighting
1425
01:09:51,058 --> 01:09:53,390
that they're doing right now
is happening right here.
1426
01:09:56,864 --> 01:09:57,956
Okay.
1427
01:10:07,342 --> 01:10:09,833
The men fired across
the rooftops,
1428
01:10:09,878 --> 01:10:12,277
but it didn't make sense to
me what we were doing here...
1429
01:10:13,287 --> 01:10:16,181
Or what the Americans were
doing here in Somalia,
1430
01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:18,013
arming this
warlord-turned-general
1431
01:10:18,051 --> 01:10:20,485
for what seemed like
a senseless war.
1432
01:10:21,988 --> 01:10:23,148
We got to move.
1433
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:32,060
So these were Shabaab
fighters you buried here?
1434
01:10:32,099 --> 01:10:33,367
Yes, two, uh-huh.
1435
01:10:33,397 --> 01:10:38,694
If we capture foreign
fighters alive, we bury them.
1436
01:10:38,861 --> 01:10:40,696
We kill them
when we catch them.
1437
01:10:41,075 --> 01:10:42,599
If you capture a
foreigner alive,
1438
01:10:42,643 --> 01:10:44,133
you execute them on
the battlefield?
1439
01:10:44,658 --> 01:10:45,826
Yes.
1440
01:10:46,744 --> 01:10:51,498
So that other
foreigners expect no mercy.
1441
01:10:54,256 --> 01:10:57,248
[Indistinct conversations]
1442
01:11:05,131 --> 01:11:07,463
How did the Americans
find men like Indha Adde?
1443
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:08,831
And to what end?
1444
01:11:11,171 --> 01:11:12,968
After a decade of covert war,
1445
01:11:13,006 --> 01:11:14,736
Somalia was in ruins.
1446
01:11:14,775 --> 01:11:16,402
Half the country was ruled
1447
01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:17,911
by the local
Al-Qaeda affiliate,
1448
01:11:17,945 --> 01:11:20,243
the other half by men
like the general,
1449
01:11:20,281 --> 01:11:22,647
wandering the streets
with an endless kill list
1450
01:11:22,683 --> 01:11:23,843
and a band of men.
1451
01:11:26,487 --> 01:11:29,479
[Indistinct conversations]
1452
01:11:30,958 --> 01:11:32,118
Every time we stopped,
1453
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:33,626
people looked at us nervously,
1454
01:11:33,661 --> 01:11:35,458
and I was told that
my very presence
1455
01:11:35,496 --> 01:11:37,930
was endangering them.
1456
01:11:37,965 --> 01:11:40,935
Bashir would insist we leave
moments after we arrived.
1457
01:11:42,037 --> 01:11:43,163
Okay, we go.
1458
01:11:48,285 --> 01:11:50,913
I wanted to see beneath
the surface of the war
1459
01:11:51,112 --> 01:11:53,909
to understand what it meant
to ordinary Somalis.
1460
01:11:53,947 --> 01:11:55,539
[Indistinct conversations]
1461
01:11:55,582 --> 01:11:58,050
But I was passed from
warlord to warlord
1462
01:11:58,084 --> 01:11:59,551
and soon realized
the only people
1463
01:11:59,586 --> 01:12:01,918
I'd be able to meet
were men with guns.
1464
01:12:02,659 --> 01:12:04,940
You know when you are
fighting with enemy,
1465
01:12:05,495 --> 01:12:07,034
any option is open.
1466
01:12:09,596 --> 01:12:10,674
No mercy.
1467
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:13,337
MOHAMMED QANYARE
US-BACKED WARLORD
1468
01:12:13,367 --> 01:12:14,834
For years, Mohamed Qanyare
1469
01:12:14,869 --> 01:12:16,837
was Washington's
man in Mogadishu.
1470
01:12:16,871 --> 01:12:19,203
His methods were extreme,
1471
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,037
but Washington insisted
Qanyare's services
1472
01:12:21,075 --> 01:12:22,667
were vital to their
kill campaign.
1473
01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:23,972
Who were the people
1474
01:12:24,011 --> 01:12:26,071
that the Americans wanted
your help tracking?
1475
01:12:26,104 --> 01:12:27,910
No, I don't want to
talk about that.
1476
01:12:27,916 --> 01:12:29,987
- You don't want to talk about that.
- I don't.
1477
01:12:29,997 --> 01:12:32,643
Did they offer to
fund any operations?
1478
01:12:32,947 --> 01:12:35,110
That one also, no comment.
1479
01:12:35,128 --> 01:12:37,173
- You don't want to comment on that.
- No comment.
1480
01:12:37,224 --> 01:12:39,158
But you're targeting
people for the Americans.
1481
01:12:39,204 --> 01:12:41,063
Yes, we arrest and interrogate
1482
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:43,672
and release if we
don't see nothing.
1483
01:12:44,016 --> 01:12:45,204
That's our business.
1484
01:12:45,231 --> 01:12:46,698
And when these
American operations
1485
01:12:46,733 --> 01:12:48,894
kill innocent people,
what's the impact?
1486
01:12:49,903 --> 01:12:51,481
America knows war.
1487
01:12:51,582 --> 01:12:53,121
They are war masters.
1488
01:12:53,168 --> 01:12:54,949
They knows better than me.
1489
01:12:55,473 --> 01:12:58,207
So when they funded a war,
they know how to fund it.
1490
01:12:58,238 --> 01:13:00,637
They don't even to
touch to tell them.
1491
01:13:01,168 --> 01:13:02,457
They know very well.
1492
01:13:02,463 --> 01:13:04,425
They are teachers.
Great teachers.
1493
01:13:11,818 --> 01:13:15,515
A roadside bomb
blast hit a minibus
1494
01:13:15,843 --> 01:13:17,710
full of civilians.
1495
01:13:17,781 --> 01:13:19,273
Three people died at the spot
1496
01:13:19,545 --> 01:13:21,366
and many other were
injured as well.
1497
01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:23,363
They're all being taken
to Madina Hospital?
1498
01:13:23,418 --> 01:13:25,106
To Madina Hospital, yes.
1499
01:13:57,605 --> 01:13:59,266
For over a decade,
1500
01:13:59,306 --> 01:14:02,708
JSOC and the CIA had
free rein in Somalia.
1501
01:14:02,744 --> 01:14:04,905
All their tactics
were on display-
1502
01:14:04,946 --> 01:14:08,278
drone strikes, night
raids, mercenaries.
1503
01:14:09,850 --> 01:14:12,683
As the War on Terror
entered a second decade,
1504
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,780
Somalia seemed like a
laboratory of the future,
1505
01:14:15,823 --> 01:14:17,450
and the future looked bleak.
1506
01:14:20,999 --> 01:14:23,210
KENYA-SOMALIA BORDER
1507
01:14:31,204 --> 01:14:32,968
I was ready to leave Somalia
1508
01:14:33,007 --> 01:14:34,634
and decided to call my editor.
1509
01:14:38,161 --> 01:14:40,356
But the news from home
what not what I expected.
1510
01:14:42,016 --> 01:14:44,246
Anwar Al-Awlaki was dead,
1511
01:14:44,285 --> 01:14:45,411
killed in a drone strike
1512
01:14:45,452 --> 01:14:47,511
authorized by the
President himself.
1513
01:14:49,124 --> 01:14:51,285
Another name struck
from the list.
1514
01:14:56,664 --> 01:14:58,063
I wanted to go home,
1515
01:14:58,098 --> 01:15:00,066
to be done with it all.
1516
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,260
But I couldn't.
1517
01:15:11,152 --> 01:15:12,392
SANA'A, YEMEN
1518
01:15:12,579 --> 01:15:14,547
I got another call,
1519
01:15:14,581 --> 01:15:16,071
and this one left me stunned.
1520
01:15:17,517 --> 01:15:19,485
Two weeks after
Al-Awlaki's death,
1521
01:15:19,519 --> 01:15:22,512
the U.S. had launched
another strike in Yemen.
1522
01:15:22,556 --> 01:15:24,456
Another American
had been killed.
1523
01:15:25,859 --> 01:15:27,986
But this time, it
was a teenage boy.
1524
01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:32,824
They had killed Anwar
Al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son,
1525
01:15:32,866 --> 01:15:34,231
Abdulrahman.
1526
01:15:37,305 --> 01:15:39,000
I returned to Sana'a,
1527
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,472
but I wasn't sure why.
1528
01:15:41,942 --> 01:15:43,876
Was it to file another story?
1529
01:15:43,911 --> 01:15:46,004
To investigate another crime?
1530
01:15:47,014 --> 01:15:48,811
Or was it to apologize?
1531
01:16:12,339 --> 01:16:14,773
Abdulrahman left
without telling us.
1532
01:16:16,510 --> 01:16:18,307
He said in a small note
1533
01:16:18,345 --> 01:16:20,779
that he's going to
look for his father.
1534
01:16:22,383 --> 01:16:25,012
He left from the kitchen window,
1535
01:16:25,053 --> 01:16:28,215
and he took a bus to the
governorate of Shabwah.
1536
01:16:29,757 --> 01:16:31,622
Then when his father was killed,
1537
01:16:31,659 --> 01:16:34,093
his grandmother told him,
1538
01:16:34,128 --> 01:16:36,790
"There is no use for
you to stay anymore."
1539
01:16:36,830 --> 01:16:40,027
And he said, "Yes, I will
come back in two days."
1540
01:16:45,506 --> 01:16:51,205
On the morning of October 15th,
1541
01:16:51,244 --> 01:16:52,734
we got a telephone call,
1542
01:16:52,779 --> 01:16:55,907
and they told us he was
blown up to pieces
1543
01:16:55,948 --> 01:16:57,415
by the drone.
1544
01:16:58,651 --> 01:17:01,120
And they saw only the
back of his hair.
1545
01:17:01,155 --> 01:17:02,952
You know, his
relative, his cousin,
1546
01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:04,753
he knew his hair from the back,
1547
01:17:04,792 --> 01:17:07,317
and he recognize it, and he knew
1548
01:17:07,361 --> 01:17:10,194
that Abdulrahman
really was dead.
1549
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:13,427
But they could not recognize
his face or anything else.
1550
01:17:16,670 --> 01:17:17,830
I always teased with him
1551
01:17:17,871 --> 01:17:20,339
about his, you know, big-
1552
01:17:20,374 --> 01:17:22,433
his hair, you know,
that he should cut it,
1553
01:17:22,476 --> 01:17:24,376
because I thought that
he should do that.
1554
01:17:29,249 --> 01:17:31,444
The drone had not
just killed the boy,
1555
01:17:31,485 --> 01:17:32,816
it vanished him.
1556
01:17:34,822 --> 01:17:37,289
I asked to see photos
of Abdulrahman
1557
01:17:37,323 --> 01:17:39,120
and suddenly realized
why I was here.
1558
01:17:42,595 --> 01:17:45,291
It wasn't to investigate
another death.
1559
01:17:45,331 --> 01:17:47,822
I wanted to see him when
he was still alive.
1560
01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:50,837
[Indistinct conversations]
1561
01:18:28,941 --> 01:18:31,307
Abdulrahman's grandmother
was in mourning
1562
01:18:31,344 --> 01:18:34,279
but sat down with me
for a moment to talk.
1563
01:18:34,313 --> 01:18:35,974
What did Abdulrahman do?
1564
01:18:37,284 --> 01:18:40,685
Who ordered the killing
of Abdulrahman?
1565
01:18:40,721 --> 01:18:43,815
He was sitting, having
dinner with his friends.
1566
01:18:43,857 --> 01:18:45,485
How come he was killed?
1567
01:18:45,527 --> 01:18:46,891
What did he do?
1568
01:18:48,195 --> 01:18:49,685
You know, Abdulrahman was...
1569
01:18:51,031 --> 01:18:53,556
He was a very, very gentle boy,
1570
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,625
and he never hurt anybody.
1571
01:19:15,031 --> 01:19:17,397
I tried to make sense
of Abdulrahman's death.
1572
01:19:19,976 --> 01:19:22,444
His father's could at
least be explained.
1573
01:19:22,728 --> 01:19:24,423
But a teenager with
a Facebook page
1574
01:19:24,464 --> 01:19:27,263
and a group of
adolescent friends,
1575
01:19:27,301 --> 01:19:30,429
why would his name have
been put on the list?
1576
01:19:30,471 --> 01:19:32,234
What could he
possibly have done?
1577
01:19:42,616 --> 01:19:43,742
The Americans said
1578
01:19:43,784 --> 01:19:46,753
Abdulrahman was
collateral damage,
1579
01:19:46,787 --> 01:19:49,187
but they offered no
explanation for the strike.
1580
01:19:50,728 --> 01:19:53,561
And unlike Gardez,
they made no apology.
1581
01:19:56,829 --> 01:19:58,820
It seemed an impossible
coincidence.
1582
01:20:00,567 --> 01:20:02,194
They killed the father
1583
01:20:02,236 --> 01:20:03,396
and then the son.
1584
01:20:12,378 --> 01:20:14,608
But maybe it was
as simple as that.
1585
01:20:16,517 --> 01:20:19,509
Like a tale from
Greek mythology,
1586
01:20:19,553 --> 01:20:22,420
Abdulrahman was killed
not for what he'd done
1587
01:20:22,456 --> 01:20:24,515
but for who he might
one day become...
1588
01:20:26,493 --> 01:20:28,484
A twisted logic,
1589
01:20:28,529 --> 01:20:30,121
a logic without end.
1590
01:20:42,342 --> 01:20:44,401
Nasser had lost
his firstborn son
1591
01:20:44,444 --> 01:20:46,605
and his first grandson.
1592
01:20:46,647 --> 01:20:49,480
But what did we lose
when the drone struck
1593
01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:51,848
Abdulrahman and his
teenage friends?
1594
01:21:17,144 --> 01:21:20,113
When I first visited Gardez,
1595
01:21:20,147 --> 01:21:22,377
I had no idea where the
story would lead me.
1596
01:21:28,956 --> 01:21:31,481
I didn't know just how much
the world had changed...
1597
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,751
Or how much the journey
would change me.
1598
01:21:42,668 --> 01:21:45,159
But I realize now the
story has no end.
1599
01:21:52,645 --> 01:21:55,274
Somehow, in front of our eyes,
1600
01:21:55,315 --> 01:21:56,942
undeclared wars
have been launched
1601
01:21:56,984 --> 01:21:59,389
in countries across the globe,
1602
01:21:59,873 --> 01:22:02,417
foreigners and citizens
alike assassinated
1603
01:22:02,456 --> 01:22:03,753
by presidential decree...
1604
01:22:05,892 --> 01:22:07,689
The War on Terror transformed
1605
01:22:07,728 --> 01:22:09,696
into a self-fulfilling
prophecy.
1606
01:22:12,265 --> 01:22:14,256
How does a war like
this ever end?
1607
01:22:17,838 --> 01:22:19,601
And what happens to us
1608
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,108
when we finally see what's
hidden in plain sight?
1609
01:26:06,732 --> 01:26:08,732
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