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[distorted guitar ringing]

[feedback whining]

[gentle orchestral music]

[metal jingling]

- [muttering indistinctly]

Everything I have in here you see is one of a kind

This stuff's all chiffon stuff

This stuff's my fancy stuff

I bought these in 1 967 and they're still brand-new

They got great big== they're low hip-huggers right?

They come down here

And they got great big bells on 'em man

These are nice leather ones They're real soft

Feel the leather on those They're soft

They feel good don't they?

I like a lot of paisley shit you know

I still got a lot of paisley shit

and it's all in perfect condition

These are all my stage clothes

and I only wore these like once in a while

because when I used to play

I was saving them for when I got big

And that never happened so I saved 'em forever

- So what are his prospects?

Because he keeps giving me these rosy scenarios

and I don't know what to believe you know?

- What does he tell you specifically?

- Well like one thing I know is a delusion

is that he's going in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

this year or next

[laughs]

I like him to have a dream though you know?

If he didn't have a dream he's liable to kill himself

- Are you really gonna do this as a documentary?

I could go out and play

- I get nervous You know what I mean?

- Hmm? - I get nervous that

- Everybody does

He does

They're afraid I'm gonna die

That's okay I won't

If you guys want me around I'll stick around

- Please - If you really do

I mean that in my heart

I mean if you want me around I'll stick around

For just guys like you guys

* *

[birds chirping]

- I was at a record show with my girlfriend

and um I found like this== all this rare stuff

that I totally wanted

And then I was just looking through one last bin

and I saw the original Pentagram record

It was just a purple logo against black

It kind of looks like garbage on the front

You turn it around and there's this like

scary-ass picture of the band

I was with my girlfriend at the time

and we were just like crazy record collectors

and just go blow all our money on records and beer

and then just have like Friday and Saturday night

listening to records

[hard rock music]

* *

Man as soon as we put that on the turntable

that's like nothing I'd heard before

Really I mean it was just so fucking heavy

This was the only Pentagram that was released

and the only one I knew of

I thought this was the beginning of Pentagram

I was working at an indie record label

and I was telling everybody about it that I knew

and someone said "Oh yeah man

"I get stuff no one's even heard about before

from the '70s heavy hard rock"

[music slows to a stop]

I was like "Come on how can this be?"

I was obsessed with this band

So he brings in this CD-R

Here it is man

a record that literally changed my life

I couldn't wait you know just to get out of work

and go home and listen to it

At that point I was riding a bike to work

and I remember just riding home as fast as I could you know?

Just like a little kid from school

I rolled a joint== it was a special occasion

I rolled a big joint

[lively drumbeat]

* *

And that first song Forever My Queen,

I mean just fucking phenomenal

[heavy metal music]

- * I'm running away with myself *

* I think I ran a little too far *

* Your love is more than a tease *

- I couldn't believe it

Some of the best hard rock I've ever heard

I mean lyrically his vocal delivery

Just the guitar in it was out of control

I mean for the early '70s I couldn't believe it

And mostly not only was it brilliant

but aside from that why doesn't everyone talk about it?

* *

What's the equivalent of hearing something like this

for someone who's just obsessed by music?

It's a profession and their passion and their private life

It'sit's hard to explain

It's literally like being a devout Christian

and walking down the street one day and bumping into Jesus

and he knows your name and shakes your hand

and asks you over for dinner and drinks

[laughs] You know?

And he calls you on the weekends to go out

I mean l==I can't explain it

My whole life I've just been obsessed by music

It's all I wanted to do with my life

And the only things that made me truly happy

were finding an awesome record

I was just completely driven and obsessed

I mean I was completely in love

and I just couldn't wait

to make other people fall in love with this

- * Willing and we both know how *

* Baby you're gonna be my queen *

* A king always knows what he means *

- It was the perfect time for Bobby Liebling and Pentagram

to kind of== to be rediscovered

I wouldn't even say they were a cult band

They were kind of a secret at that point

But then there was all this interest

in early '70s hard rock

There was a big stoner-rock thing

There were a lot of bands

that just wanted to get that early '70s sound

and then get back to the basics in metal

All of a sudden there's this band

Oh you know they have unlimited number

of unreleased recordings from the 1 970s

and there hasn't been like years and years

of over-merchandising or marketing

or anything like that

It was just like this caveman found you know

frozen in the Swiss Alps somewhere

that you cut out the block of ice and bring it out

and there's a specimen there that still has active DNA

Bobby Liebling is still that frozen guy

[song ends]

[birds chirping]

- If you see anything that says Pentagram like

Liebling Pentagram blah-blah-blah project

or any of that on the CDs

we will find find for you guys 'cause you must hear this

This is more important to me than any other shit

That's why you must hear the stuff

[heavy metal music]

# You are the highway star #

Hey world premiere!

VH1 in the trash heap

[scoffs]

* *

# Oh, take me away #

# I want to do it, baby #

Oh man I know I'll play again I can't help it

Look I'm addicted

You know it's like heroin

I can get up there and rock with the best of 'em

* *

Cool E right here

# Wrapping your soul out on evil #

[guitar solo soars]

* *

[music continues in background]

* *

- I thought he was very good when he was younger

I don't==you know I didn't go to many of his shows

I didn't want to make him uncomfortable

but he did have a==

Would you please get [speaks indistinctly]

Thank you Excuse me

No not just as a mother I was very critical of him

But I thought he had a==

just a natural instinct to perform

And you couldn't stop him even if we wanted to you know?

It was sort of inborn

- Far superior than some of these real big bands

that I've seen

Big guys that are making millions

[heavy metal music]

- Have you ever done anything else besides rock and roll?

- Nothin'

Yeah this== drugs

Sex drugs rock and roll

Well I mean look at me

You know I'm an old soldier right?

I've been doing drugs 44 years

I've been addicted to heroin for 39

I've been addicted to crack for about 22

I've been in off-houses detoxes

You know that's why I smile and tell people

"I'm alive man"

I'm not supposed to be alive

Uh did you see where the piece of crack went?

The big piece of crack?

Oh my God look there's== oh no that's a Band-Aid

- No, I know It fell down into

- You saw it? I mean the place is a hellhole

It's a shit-hole

It's a sloth house and I hate it

That's why I want to get out man

I don't like dirt see?

- You want to get out?

- Believe it or not yeah

Fucking A I'm gonna get out

Are you kidding?

That looks like rat poop It's not==

[heavy metal music]

* *

# And these are gonna be some of my last days here #

# I'm wasting away, and time to #

- He's been close to death ever since I've known him

I can't tell you how many times

I get a message that he leaves in the middle of the night

saying good-bye

- He didn't live a hard life

and then come back and try and write love songs

He wrote songs from the perspective of somebody

that was metaphysically in the sub-basement

He's used that to make very harrowing bone-chilling music

- Man I remember sitting at the side of a train track

This was like where I lived side of a train tracks

I found a boom box in a dumpster

and the only tape I had was Be Forewarned

He speaks truths that not many people can see or know

It's pain and it's empowerment

and it's just all these things in one purely from the heart

It's almost like on a smaller scale like my bible you know?

- The first time I ever saw footage of Bobby

I never seen nothing like it

He definitely understood

the seductive powers of rock and roll man

and he could just go from this textbook rock-and-roll guy

and then all of a sudden just crouch down like the devil

You know when you're a kid man

that's about the fucking coolest thing you can see

[laughs] So

- There's something about I guess the mystique of Bobby

He just has that persona you know

and that charisma that people just like latch on to

And then his drug addictions and things like that

it's added to all that

but it's also a hell for a lot of people

who've played in bands with him over the years

I mean if you look on the Pentagram Myspace site

on the left column

it's got all the prior members of Pentagram

and it's you know== it's like a list that long

- The potential's there but you know

there's certain personal things in his life

that are keeping him from going all the way

[heavy metal music]

- Even though I talked to him

and seemed like it was a dead end

the guy's got some kind of fight in him

He's got a flame that won't go out man

I wanted to start a fire with it you know?

So today we're headed down to uh see Bobby

Um I have a toll coming up

Do you want to do this after the toll?

[cars whooshing]

- Thank you - Thanks

So today I'm gonna go down

I have notes and an outline

of what I think the plan should be

And even if we get a contract signed

and it takes us forever to start recording

shit can fall apart man

So we really got to fucking move on it

and move on it fast and make it happen

You know what we're gonna get a fucking record made

God damn it

[laughs] I hope

Practically speaking the one thing I can do

for Pentagram and Bobby is give 'em good direction

And something I mentioned to him

like "Bobby you know what?

You're fucking almost dead man Unfortunately it sucks"

He tells me this all the time

"So you got one more shot to really make another big mark"

And that's what I really want to help Bobby do

It just has to happen

There's got to be a final finale chapter

in the story of Bobby Liebling

[birds chirping]

I really think that you guys can do it

and come back together and do a great record

I haven't even started

negotiating the contract yet at all

It's just figuring out if they're interested

figuring out what they're willing to give

for an advance

We also have to figure out Geof and Greg or whatever==

are willing to be on the record

So part of the reason I want to go with Housecore dude

is Philip is the contemporary hard rock hero right?

You are the dude from the past

He's gonna bring you huge visibility

So what we need to do is we're gonna lay out a budget

that we're all gonna have to agree to

and we're all gonna have to stick to

and I want to see this shit happen

I have too much time invested in it

to not even follow through at this point

So what I'm gonna do is

I'm gonna record him Backlash, Suffering,

and Everything's Turning To Night

and hand it to him backstage at the Down show

But the other thing is== too is

it's my word I'm giving to them you know?

Before all this happens

make sure that you're 1 00% into it and committed

and we're gonna go with it

So this what I'm handing you is my final==

my final effort to fucking help you

and try to fucking put a great record on the history books

- You know what I want to do? I want to live

I want to live a little man

- Well here's the thing

- I want to live I don't want to die anymore

- We do this record bro right?

Hopefully it'll help you get out of here

We're gonna figure out what we're gonna get for percentages

what your royalties are gonna be all that stuff

- I have to eat I have to make a living

I can't==I can't do this

irresponsible little crying child trick forever

I can't

I've been Peter Pan my whole life man

There's times you do something

I want me back

I'm tired of giving me out and giving up and running away

I run away with you know

the old piece of glass you know?

If I smoke any crack after today you can have my records

How about that?

I'll put it on the camera

- "If Robert Liebling smokes crack after today 1 0/1 2/07

"Demian Fenton and Sean Pelletier

will own Robert Liebling's entire record collection"

- Before you do it it should say "1 B"

Possession should take place only if and after 9 days==

90 days or whatever days you know==

30 days 60 days 90 days

It's up to you I don't care

- We're not gonna take your records

We just want you to stop smoking crack

- Yeah yeah - Sign this

- No but you should put

- Do you want me to hold the crack when you sign that?

- You know what I mean?

[heavy metal music]

- Throughout Pentagram's career

they've really come so close to really making it

- Our manager at the time Gordon Fletcher

one of the two managers

knew a lot of people in the business

and he knew Gene and Paul in KISS

So we had this set up for them

to come see one of our rehearsals

- It was in a basement of a house that I was living in

Wasn't really a heavy metal studio let's say

- The day that KISS was going to be arriving

Greg and Vincent had to work

and they were working as janitors

- So unfortunately Vincent a brilliant guitar player

and Greg heavier-than-hell bass player

were off cleaning toilets

I don't know

If KISS was coming to my house to watch my band

I would quit my fucking job

I wouldn't even go to==

never mind going to work that day

- # All right #

* *

- So Gene and Paul show up

Toilet boys are still at work

Not only were they off cleaning toilets that day

but they hitchhiked to work

- They didn't have a car

They had to hitchhike home

wearing some type of janitor-type outfit

[car horn honks]

- I guess we got off work Vince and I did

and we got to the house

We're all grubby from being janitors

[laughs]

* *

- The landlord who I guess lived in the house

started bitching and complaining that it was too loud

and had to shut down

- Came running

"Man you guys got to turn it down!"

And I'm like "God damn it man KISS is here" you know?

- Fucking KISS is in the house watching them play

You think they'd give the landlord something

Some peanut butter sandwiches and 25 bucks

to fucking go away for the day

But you know so it was just== I guess it was just horrible

From what I hear KISS

some of the things they said are

"Well your name's Pentagram There's only four of you

"The singer and the bass player have bad skin

The drummer's too fat"

And they blew it

I mean should have taken the day off from work

fucking did a month of aerobics

fucking got some Oxy pads you know?

* *

[birds chirping]

- Should I pull 'em out?

Some Enchanted Evening

My son has the platinum Some Enchanted Evening

I'm told that the Johnny Winter is platinum

I'm told that Blue Oyster Cult's first three records

have gone gold

but Sony is too cheap to send me gold records

Uh this is

I had done at least a couple of Blue Oyster Cult records

I was looking for the real thing to follow Blue Oyster Cult

* *

Pentagram really seemed like sort of a street Black Sabbath

That was just what I was looking for you know?

I wanted the male-dominant thrust of heavy metal

But it sort of had a "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on"

kind of thing

Post-Page pre-Sex Pistols

It was almost as though I'm sitting at a computer==

if there were such things then==

kind of generating this band that was perfect for 1 97 4

I was ready to seriously seriously commit to them

[heavy metal music]

- Here was our big break

Columbia records is paying for us to go do a demo in New York

- And you know we're on the train to New York

Man I'm seeing stars in my eyes

- We went into the studio and did three tracks

with Murray Krugman producing it

- We get through all the rhythm tracks

and Bobby's laying down the vocals

- Bobby completed a vocal track

and Murray said "Okay that's fine

Come in and listen to it"

And Bobby says "I'd like to== I'd like to redo that

There was a couple parts I wasn't really happy with"

Murray says "Don't worry about it

We'll fix it in postproduction Just==it was fine"

- We could have corrected that vocal

but there would have been some other thing

where he's hearing a finished $200000 record in his head

and can't understand why an eight-hour demo

isn't gonna give that to him

- And Bobby got real upset about it

and called Gordon who was our manager

out into the singing booth

- "Gordon can I see you a minute?"

Pain in the ass I was

Called him out in the main room

Made sure I was by a live mic

I said "What's this guy being such a fucking asshole for?"

- Murray just got up

and as I recall he didn't say a word

Vincent thought he said we were

the most difficult band to work with and walked out

I don't recall him saying anything

I just recall him getting up and walking out of the studio

without saying a word

And we never talked to him again

- I felt like killing Bobby

- I've fantasized many many times

if Bobby had just said "No problem" you know

and walked in and we'd listened back to the session

What would have happened the rest of that day?

What would have happened the rest of that week?

And what would have happened with the rest of our career?

- We would have gotten a deal through them

No question

Record deal national tour fame and fortune

It would have happened

There but for the grace of God

[announcer speaking indistinctly over television]

- I used to say to him

"When I see you on Saturday Night Live,

I'll know you made it"

And you know I've seen some lousy acts

That shocks me

Bobby Pellet's here

- Hehe's here?

- Yeah - Good lord

- Everybody in unison==

I mean total==

"Move him out of your house"

- Everybody everybody

I mean to this day

There's always tons of laundry around here

I don't know

He can change three times a day

He's already changed twice today

He keeps spilling his coffee

- Even now everything that he has comes from us

- How much have you given for Bobby?

- Financially?

- I have

- Financially over $1 million

- Thanks appreciate it

- All right good

Brush your hair?

- There's Fig Newtons aren't there?

Mom?

There's Fig Newtons aren't there?

Yeah

- I've always been afraid

that he'd either go out and steal

or knock somebody

You don't know Addicts are crazy

- It's a very tough thing

They call us enablers

I said "Really?

"Did you ever see my son?

Do you know him?"

"No"

"And you're in social services?

Where is your sensitivity to people?"

His brilliance in the music field

has never been to fruition because of the problem

He has all this talent now

- Yes he still has talent

- He has it

- Do you guys think that Bobby could stop doing drugs?

- [sighs]

- At this stage of the game of anybody you know

it's a prognosis question

- Yes if he were out of pain

He's in a lot of pain that people don't realize that

And he also has truthfully a delusion

that he has a parasitic infection

Bobby's not insane but he can act insane with the coke

- My fingers turn black every night

There it's starting now

That's not from the coke

That's all parasites

See those dots that look like dots embedded?

- Mm-hmm

- All of them

Did you see my lips?

They're not chapped

Come here

See the line along the bottom?

- Mm-hmm - That's all parasites

See all that black?

Those are all parasites

- Holy fuck man - Yeah

- Never saw it huh?

1 5 years I've had to live with that

- See when he starts pulling his skin

he does what he thinks== he calls "debriding"

He'll pull at it

and put it on a piece of paper towel

and pull out his magnifying glass

and he'll come==

"You never want to look You never want to look"

I said "I've spent 1 0000 hours looking Bobby

It's not bugs It's dead skin"

If he didn't pick his arms

I know they'd heal

and I know everything would be fine

- It's a fact

I have something unknown that is parasitic

- Truth is that she said you've been to the hospital

about 50 times since you lived here

- Mm-hmm

- We're gonna be there for eight hours in the waiting room

and they're gonna let you out

Unless you go there and say you want to go to detox

and then they'll admit you

- They're not gonna treat me for this in detox

- I've watched you smoke a fuckload of crack right now

- Mm-hmm - It's in your blood

- Mm-hmm - They're gonna get you in

Then once you're in there you're away from this

maybe you can heal more

- I want to go to the hospital

not that I want to go in rehab

I want to go to the hospital

because if I'm not treated for this

I'm gonna die

[somber piano music]

* *

It makes me nasty

It makes me confused

Probably 'cause it's eating my organs away

Probably 'cause it is eating my brain

All I do is cry all night

and pray to God to die

* *

- I've taken Bobby here a few times

I know he's intent on getting his hands and arms addressed

and that rehab is a secondary solution

And as far as what he was saying 30 minutes ago

suicide being the third solution

I don't==I wish he wasn't going through any of this

but there's nothing that I can do

except just support him you know?

You know Bobby would be the first to tell you

years back

he kind of made that deal with the devil right?

He kind of sold his soul

and he's fighting like hell to steal it back

one piece at a time

- So what are they gonna do?

'Cause I feel comfortable in these places

more than I do in my own home

I like hospitals

That's sick but I love hospitals

Pellet has been== has been like a god to me

He's basically a godsend

I love him I love all you guys

You know for coming here

Thank you very very much

[somber music]

- On Sundays we'd take him to this little deli

and they had a jukebox

There he was only a year and a half there

So he'd go over there and bounce to it

and he'd turn around

* You load 1 6 tons what do you get? *

He sang Tennessee Ernie Ford

And everybody "Look at that little boy" you know?

He had quite a good childhood

- He had an excellent childhood

- Later teens he used to walk in the door

He'd step in that door right away

Before he even saw him he'd yell out

"Did you cut your hair?"

That was I mean every night

That's when they kind of had a little parting

because of his hair and lifestyle and so forth

A lot of Bobby's problems I believe subconsciously

is an innate competitive thing with his father

- I think she's right She's right in that

She's right in that

I worked for eight secretaries of defense

Originally appointed by President Johnson

kept on by Nixon and by President Ford

Where the hell did you find that?

I always looked up to people

who were in our society

Very very responsible

And I want my son to have been like that

- Joe but he's not

- I can't do anything about it now

- What I want for Bobby just for him to be happy

- Just for him to be==

- To find a good woman

- Two different categories

- Why? He needs that Joe

- I just want him to be well

Within the range of normalcy

With that of course goes then to societal things

that she's talking about

* *

[windshield wipers swishing]

- To play the next message, press one

[electronic beep]

- Hey, Dem It's Pellet

Listen, I'm just giving you a quick call

I finally heard from Bobby

after weeks of him being missing in action

He's been in Philadelphia, of all places

Dude, he met some young hot girl named Hallie,

and he's been up here spending time with her

She supposedly is not a drug addict

I'm not sure what the whole deal is,

but I just thought I'd tell you

It looks like there's gonna be some forward motion,

'cause he's psyched and really positive

Give me a call when you get this, okay?

See ya

- This message will be saved

- The way he met her from what I understand is

she was a fan

They were speaking on the phone quite a bit

so she came one time with her cousin

Then a couple of weeks later she invited him to visit

And that's how it started

He's been going to Philly nearly every weekend

Do you have an elevator at 201 South 1 3th?

He got an apartment==we got him an apartment I should say==

in Philadelphia just a few blocks from her

So he'll have to come in through the front?

Is it wide? Because he has a very wide sofa

Apparently they're in love

Or whatever you know?

[laughs]

I don't know if it's== I shouldn't say this==

in love or in lust but

[laughs]

[heavy metal music]

* *

- Yeah I was very very Ionely down here for a long time

but uh I'm not Ionely anymore

because I have a== very much a purpose you know?

Perfect time to meet Hallie

About time somebody loved Bob for Bob again

There's been nobody a long time who's loved Bob for Bob

Nobody loves me like Hallie Nobody

I've never loved a woman like Hallie in my life

Never in my life and never will again

- He's got to take winter boots

I don't care what he says

Are they that bad?

They're dorky he says

Just for the snow

Are they that dorky?

Huh?

* *

Tell him he needs some lamps

- I got everything like that

- You got the coconut oil

- Don't worry about that

- All right where is it?

[clattering]

[hissing]

[all coughing]

- You know that fire that just started?

Right as the flames hit the stove

this fell off Bob's neck

Now how fucking weird is that?

That's weird

'Cause you were here==

Them flames came out of nowhere right?

Out of fucking nowhere

This popped right off his neck right as the fire started

Do the math

One bad omen after another dude

I don't know

I think Bobby might just be back

I hope this girl is everything he thinks man

I don't know her

Yeah I hope it works out

But between the cross breaking and the fire the snow

fucking I'm starting to wonder man

[door clattering]

- All right I'll see you later

- Good luck - Wish me luck

- Make it - Yeah I'm gonna make it

There ain't no question about that

- Are you boxed in?

- We'll see you again all right?

- Drive careful - Love you!

[somber piano music]

* *

- Oh boy

I just hope he's happy that's all

Hope he's happy

[sniffles]

* *

- So today is Bobby's birthday

He loves carrot cake

He gets an annual carrot cake every year

There's no room to write "Happy birthday Bobby"

without interfering with the carrot symmetry

so we're just gonna go with a Pentagram

with maybe a 54 in the middle

I guess uh I get a little leeway

since I'm not a decorator

- I think 54's not that old - Huh?

- 54's not that old

- No I don't know is it?

- I mean it's old

- Get out of here! [laughs]

- But it's not that old

At first glance when people see me and Bobby

walking down the street together

they either think A he's my father

or B he's my sugar daddy

or you know a pimp or something like that

But he's an endearing person

and I'm certainly not in it for the money

because he has none

And I just== I enjoy his company

I feel very kindred to him regardless of the age gap

My cousin and I had a theory that he and his mother

were the same person

like an Anthony Perkins like Psycho sort of thing

You're gonna have us like locked in a closet

with your mother's corpse

I don't find that I have anything in common

with guys my age

I've always liked since I was young

in terms of looks

guys that have you know goofy features

like caricature features

and I just have an odd taste in men

That's just the way it is

- All right Bobby!

- Who bought the candles?

It has a freaking pentagram on it

No wait hold on==

The change is pretty massive

To my understanding he was smoking toxic amounts of crack

- Make a wish

- He went from that to this

and has smoked no crack since he moved to Philly

- Whoo!

- He's been through so much more life than me

But it's the kind of like life

where you don't really grow as a person

He's kind of remained frozen in time a little bit

and I kind of like that about him

I mean in his heart too

he'll always be young I think

You look good in those pants

He looks pretty

- Long as she can say that that's okay by me baby

I'm doing all right then

Now I'm still here

If I can have someone as beautiful as this

say I'm pretty

something's happening here

- # Loving you #

* *

# Well, it takes away the blues #

- And now it's so crazy watching you know him

in this short amount of time

grow up and make up for the time

where his growth was like really stunted

Stuff where he would have no clue what to do before

like his debit card checking account

the social security card

he doesn't have a problem with that stuff anymore

He's gotten the hang of it

- I don't miss him I really don't

There's a nice sense of peace now

- I do a great deal

- He misses him terribly

- A great deal

The fact that he is using whatever strength he has left

to preserve whatever self-confidence he has

is something that I am proud of

He commented on the phone for the first time today actually

"I love you Dad"

- It's amazing the transformation in this guy

He looks good He sounds good

It's the person I thought or hoped I'd be dealing with

from the get-go

He's been jamming with other musicians

He just seems kind of more focused

and definitely more in touch with music lately

- The Hallie situation

I hate to talk so much about it

but it is really that integral in my life

Hallie Liebling

I got mad love for Hallie Liebling

Yep She's gonna be my Liebling

She's my little Liebling

* *

- We're about three hours and 45 minutes from Los Angeles

Finally going to meet the infamous Geof O'Keefe

after talking to him for==

gosh I don't know 7 1/2 years now?

When you're in a record store

and you pick up that record man

you just almost don't know what you're in for

Not only is it a journey of the mind

but sometimes it's a real exodus man

I fell in love with this band

and now I feel like I'm kind of becoming part of the story

It's a friggin' honor

I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world

Bobby makes my fucking hair fall out

I'm telling you dude

But at the end of the day it's gonna be worth it you know?

It really is

Fucking psyched

People are gonna be able to dig a new record man

That's kick-ass enough for me

Geof is such an important part

of the formation of this awesome band

I'm hoping we really get Geof excited about it as well

and he's willing to you know deal with Bobby

and forget about the past

or deal with some of the bullshit for the greater good

which is gonna be an awesome new Pentagram record

from the==with the original members you know?

And new members too

[heavy metal music]

* *

* *

- "Pentagram has not only developed

"a small but faithful following in the Washington area

but major record companies have also taken an interest"

Well [laughs]

Think it was a bar of soap from Ramada Inn New York City

when we did that Columbia Records session

So I'm guessing

- Yeah it smells like failure

- [laughs] Oh man

Bobby and my special project

The Douche Bags by The Douche Bags

- "A friend told me he heard from a connection

"that Bobby left and Pentagram now has a female singer

"If this is true I'm doomed

"It seems unlikely but anything's possible

Christ I got to know"

- "These two talented musicians make up

"one of the most successful and popular bands today

"Between the two of them

"they play a wide range of instruments:

bass lead guitar drums female organ and leslies"

- [laughs]

"We'd like to wreak metal havoc in Britain

"The only problem so far is

we can't get out of Washington"

- "Pentagram closed the show with a nightcap

"Any finesse got crushed and pushed aside

by a boring tidal wave of sound"

[laughter]

Well this just shows where things had ended

December '7 6

"Singer wanted

"Former members of Pentagram

"require a singer of professional caliber

"in the David Coverdale/ Paul Rodgers mold

We do not want a singer with an ego problem"

I met Bobby Liebling in probably 1 967 '68

I noticed that he was carrying record albums with him

a lot of times on the school bus

and I was just starting to get into cool music

He was playing in a band at the time called Shades of Darkness

He was doing stuff that I was only dreaming about==

playing in bands and going out with girls and all this stuff

So I really kind of idolized this guy

Coming out of the psychedelic hippie '60s

and going into the '70s

it was really a sense of artistic freedom

like there were no boundaries

We could do what we wanted

wanting to make music and make movies

We weren't conscious of being in any type

of situation or artistic environment

We just knew we wanted to do what we wanted to do

* *

I have really good memories of Bobby

from a certain period of time to a certain period of time

And then bad things started to happen

and there was a few years of that

and eventually I just decided

"I don't want any part of this"

There was just too much negativity to==

outweighing the positive you know?

Things got so bad with the relationship

between our managers Skip and Tom

And the band wanted to know what was going on

because they were still our managers

so Skip said "Well you can interview me

"but just you know write down the questions

"and come out with your tape recorder

and I'll record the answers onto a tape recorder"

- One, two, three, four

- Skip basically didn't want to be around Bobby

So we had to conduct our band interview

with our own manager by tape

- How do you expect to promote the single wholeheartedly

when you won't even meet with the band you're producing?

Skip?

- First of all, I don't expect to promote

- Bobby's very driven with what==

and very passionate about his music and that's good

But I have a feeling that over the years

that's been you know== one of Bobby's main problems is

the freedom of Bobby doing nothing

except sex drugs rock and roll

I mean that is it to a tee

And I realize some people say

from an artistic standpoint "Bravo" you know?

"You've got your vision You're sticking to it"

On the other hand you know

everyone that's been with you has walked away over the years

or fled in terror

because they realize you're not ever gonna compromise

or you know cooperate

I haven't talked to Bobby in over 20 years

It would be really cool to go into the studio with Bobby

and do a real album for the first time

rerecord some old stuff write some new stuff

'Cause I'm proud of that stuff

And if 30 years later

people are finally discovering that music

and you know posting things online about

"Oh this band is so amazing

This drummer kicks ass" and stuff like that

When I read stuff like that it's like "Wow really?

Thank you"

On the other hand everyone who tries to do this with Bobby

winds up getting crapped on

It winds up being a disaster of mega proportions

because Bobby will do something to screw it up

I don't want to go do something that's a high publicity thing

and have it fall apart and be a laughingstock

I don't want to do it

- She hasn't called me

You know got 1 7 minutes left

I can't== my phone's gonna run out

I got

- Your call cannot be completed

- My call can't be completed as dialed

Come on please answer honey

The thing that people don't realize

is that Mr Evil== whoo!

Pentagram dih-dih-dih-dih yadda yadda yadda

Man under this shell

and this put-on

all I want to do is eat

take care of my loving other half

in a bed that's comfortable

next to a warm soul

that I can give my soul to

because I'm not a bad guy

I'm really not a bad guy underneath

I don't mean to do the things I do wrong

You know I pray every night to God

to forgive me for the things I've done wrong

Hallie why are you calling me an asshole

and saying that I hurt you?

- Because you did

- All I called to==

Listen all I said==

Can I say anything?

Can I say anything ever?

- It was just overkill

Hallie Hallie Hallie Hallie

And you know it's great to be in a relationship

but you just need a fucking break

He was talking about marriage

I mean from the get-go

the first thing Bobby told me was

"I have a new girlfriend and I'm gonna marry her"

And it's just all these things like compounded

on this poor girl and she's just bound to break

- Yeah well not dealing==

You said it I didn't

She hung up on me again

[somber music]

It's over There's nothing to live for

[phone line trilling]

- I can come over and can listen to music dude

Music's a powerful drug

- What do you say?

- What Hallie said?

- Yeah

- No candy-coating

This isn't easy for me dude

And I don't==but I'll tell ya I mean

Last night he didn't want to see me

Today he didn't want to see me

He doesn't want to see anybody

He's just really affected

He's fucking crushed

- Now that this Hallie thing's coming down man

I could just sense Bobby just trying to find

any excuse to fucking relapse

and go back and start smoking crack

I can start feeling it happen

Bobby listen to me

It seemed like last time we hung out

I just got a feeling that you might have smoked crack

Did you smoke crack since you've been here?

- No

- Philip's playing here in a couple weeks with his band Down

He's got to be clean for that

Their hesitation the business side of it

is giving money to a drug addict man you know?

And he's got to be fucking clean

to back up me telling them that he's clean

and is gonna be able to do it you know?

If he shows up fucked up it's gonna fuck it up

[bluesy rock music]

* *

* *

- Being a person that has dealt with his own demons and won

- That's the truth

- I just hope that one day

maybe he can do the same thing you know?

It would be a beautiful thing man

- Appreciate that

From the heart

- Wow

Can I eat anything I want?

Can I taste a piece of pineapple?

- You sure? - Get some

- Mmm

Well they got it all

The way it's supposed to be

- Man I got like so many Pentagram t-shirts

It's an honor having you here man

There's just so much respect

Personally I'm sick of hearing people say it's too late

- Nah - It's never too late

- Never never never

- You know there's a lot of people you know

"Dude there's no way he can come back"

- How many times have we been written off?

- No I know man

- If we're gonna get straight to the bone and shit

There is this wave that I'm sure you're aware of==

young musicians that are discovering Pentagram

That's a gift my brother

- Sure it is

- It's a fucking gift

- Sure it is

- And it's enough of a gift

for you to give yourself a fucking break man

You've got your fucking health

- I'm giving myself a break

I kicked $300 of rock six Xanax bars

1 05 milligrams of meth

and a 1 0-pack of dope== cold turkey

- How's that throat feel?

- Fine

- You can sing

- Oh I can sing my ass off

- Really? Are you ready?

- Yeah well you're the man with the money

- Well you're the man with the fucking record

that needs to kick fucking ass too

- Believe me if you've heard all my records

I ain't done no record in my opinion that hadn't kicked ass

- You know what?

Robert I'd be proud to fucking do this

I really would man

- We're coming now Phil

- Stand up

- They're on stage

- All right man - I love you baby

- Me too buddy

- It's great great to meet you man

- Yep I hope we can do something brother

- Philip! We got to go!

- Let's go brother

- Come on!

We're on the way

Have a good show bro

[cheers and applause]

[somber music]

- You know I take him up to meet Phil Anselmo

and everything's pretty much all set up

On the fucking way home

instead of focusing on the positive

he's still focusing on Hallie

So as soon as we drop him off he literally got out of the car

thanked me all of a sudden his eyes start to tear up

and he says he doesn't want to go home

to an empty apartment

He's just he's at the end

Again

- I'm in the shower! Five minutes!

- Can we come in?

- Uh yeah you can come in

You can step over this shit

Just stay out of here

I'm on record at Jefferson Hospital

of being epidemically covered in scabies

so is everything in the whole goddamn place

You think I'm lying? I can prove every bit of it

- Well let's talk

You don't have to prove it to me

Just please get ready==

- No I have to prove it to everybody

'cause it's cocaine cocaine cocaine cocaine!

Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!

- [sighs]

The only thing I see here is a fucking syringe

- Yeah there is a syringe

There's a syringe crack pipes all kinds of shit around here

I quit

A mega dose of methadone

Mega heroin piggybacking it

Cocaine 75% or more

dropped in the course of less than a month okay?

- I give you huge credit for that

but there's still a 25% that's keeping you from making music

- No it's not

- And keeping you from making real friends that care

- Look I gave up 99 out of 1 00

I'm not Superman What do you want me to do?

Conquer the world overnight?

You're asking too much of me now

I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown

over all this drug shit

- You have so much talent

and you're smoking crack on your couch

It's heartbreaking

- How much life do you think I have left?

I think the damage is done

Far and above

[scoffs]

* *

- New message

[phone beeps]

- Hi, Demian It's Diane

I haven't heard from Bobby since Friday

Truthfully, I don't think he's gonna last much longer

I just have a feeling

Either he's gonna overdose or do something stupid

And he's hung up on that Hallie thing like crazy, so

I can't kill myself anymore over it,

and what will be, will be

- New message

[phone beeps]

- Hi, Demian It's Diane

We still haven't heard from Bobby,

and now we're really extremely concerned

Please call me

[clears throat] Thank you

Bye-bye

* *

- New message

[phone beeps]

- I found out where Bobby is

It's called CFCF, under the prison system

They took him there I don't know where it is

I don't know how he is

I'm sure he's suffering, and we don't know what to do

So when you get a chance, you call

Bye-bye

* *

[music ends]

- Philadelphia Prison Systems

"Curran-Fromhold Correctional Facility

Philadelphia Pennsylvania"

Bobby's got a restraining order on him

which clearly says you cannot fucking call Hallie

He had fucking called Hallie

Hallie picked up the phone and said

"That's it Now you're going to jail"

Click

I mean this is a huge reality check

What's harder than jail?

What's the next step? Death?

Who the fuck else is gonna fucking do this for him?

I hate to sound like a dick==

I feel like I've just been==

I'm getting grizzled and pricky

through this whole fucking process

He's completely surrounded by chaos that he creates

but it sucks everybody up in it that's around him

And maybe I said this already

but this past two weeks

I was almost glad that he was in jail==

just the fact that I know

he wasn't somewhere hurting himself

and I could concentrate on my life

and what I really needed to get done

'Cause if I didn't get this shit done

I can't do anything for him

So we'll see

See fucking work calls right now

$260 of bail $1 5 parking later

we're finally on our way

They told== after bail went through

they told us we have four to six hours

before he's released

so it's a total guessing game

No one can give us any kind of straight answers

So we kind of cut the wait in half

We're headed there now

It's dark

I'm sure Bobby is freaking to get out

You know the one thing he talks about that he wants

I'm sure more than anything is a bacon pizza

which is all he eats by the way

Anything bad for his heart Bobby Liebling will do it

[laughs]

Love drugs bacon

His life [laughing]

What's going on now is

every time I fucking come to get him out

there's some other thing going on

They told me an hour and a half

We just went and waited somewhere for over an hour

We come back

"Oh we've got no one downstairs"

I'm like "Here's his name He's been processed

We paid at 3:00 today"

"Well there's no one downstairs

"I tell you what if he's not out within 1 5 minutes

"he's gonna get out on the next shift

which is uh 1 2:00"

So that probably means the next shift starts at 1 2:00

so who knows when he's gonna get out

So we got to park across the street

which is like Mister== at Mister Chubby's

which is fitting

'cause they're treating us like fucking boners

So now we got to wait and just watch

We got to watch across the street

which you can hardly see

and we're gonna wait for him to walk out of the gate

We can't wait here all fucking night in the goddamn car

I skipped a whole day of work today to bail him out

He's still not out

and now it's fucking up my next day

So I don't know what to do

You know if we decide to leave and come back in the morning

that's when he's gonna be out here stranded probably

Know what I mean?

People keep asking me you know

"Dude why are you even hanging in there?"

I've grown to love him as a friend

and I really believe in him as a musician

I don't know

I'm really on the verge of saying "Fuck it"

And just saying I tried

I really don't know I keep going back and forth

But I keep feeling like

"Man don't fucking throw it all away yet Pellet

because we're on the verge of fucking something happening"

[somber music]

Cold in there?

- Huh buddy?

That's my buddy

[laughs]

There's my buddy see?

[all talking at once]

Had to hook you up right away

[all talking at once]

- How you doing, man?

- Uh doing like you know

- Is it all right?

- Here you go "Help me"

I'm in prison again

* *

- Hey you want some waters?

It's good to see you out dude

- Jesus

- I'm nervous that you're out I'll admit it

I didn't have to worry about you in jail

I knew you weren't doing something dumb

- I knew that I

Do you even know how many hours

- Bobby obviously goes through the same patterns

It's always he does good for a couple weeks

and then shit falls apart

Bobby is just

Robert Liebling

He's a human and he's got incredible demons

that he has to battle every fucking day

That sounds cheesy but I think Bobby really is just doing

all this stuff 'cause he just needs love

* *

- There's nothing here

I have nobody I can call that can try to help

I ain't got no relatives

I ain't got no brother or sister right?

You know

Fuck it I ain't got no kids

I can't deal with myself

I'm too immature

I can't handle it the pressure you know what I mean?

I have nothing here

I thought I had a life here

I don't got nothing anymore

- I just got the new issue of Rolling Stone

I found the perfect girl for Bobby

She's fucking== has no grip on==

they're in the same reality space

but she's got money and she's young and blonde

Fucking Britney dude

I'm making some fucking calls right now

[laughs]

Bobby'd like her right?

[sighs]

You want some tea?

I started to realize that Bobby and I

might not have had the same goals

My goal was for him to focus on the music

All I could get him to focus to

when he was up here was Hallie

Damn man it smells like an old man's dirty pants

[coughs]

He got out of jail Stuff just wasn't rolling

Phil Anselmo you know caught wind of it

Bobby was kind of a mess and in jail

And that's you know totally put on hold

Bobby moved back home with his mom

He did you know typical Bobby kind of stuff

- Basement?

- Living in the sub-basement You know?

But one good thing that came out of it is

being back around all that Maryland scene

there was people down there who were just you know

willing to help him out

and got together and got him psyched again

about playing music

[bass guitar melody]

I really think in a way

this is kind of what he needed to do

He got a complete wake-up call by going to jail

He got some love

As heartbroken as he is

I think he's got a little bit of confidence from it

- Hey is this on?

Yes it is! [echoes]

Okay

- Since he's had a full band

Bobby is just psyched to play shows

We could definitely play DC and probably do pretty well

But to make the biggest punch to get the most out of press

and just to have the biggest you know

appearance or profile is gonna be New York City

[bluesy rock music]

* *

So we chose New York

They're at a top-notch venue

We demanded a lot of money We're getting it

There's also again a lot on the line

because in the contract that I have to sign

it says if the band does not show up for whatever reason

if stuff doesn't happen

it's my name on there that I'm responsible for

So what I really need Bobby to do

is just focus again on the music

- [muffled singing]

* *

I'm just very confused right now

There's this angel I just wanted to talk to

while I was still hanging around mortal

- Is that keeping you from focusing on stuff or are you

- Ain't easy

Show must go on

But it ain't easy you know

Got to keep rocking or I start crying

Sort of like that you know?

* *

Come on!

[music stops]

* *

- Every single thing you do with Bobby Liebling has a risk

Whether it's a record coming out

whether it's a show or whatever it's a risk

I mean it definitely makes shit exciting

But it's putting gray in my beard you know?

- It surprises me people who go out and buy advance tickets

for Pentagram shows sometimes

You know it's like man I would just wait

until the night of the show and go to the door

because why sink your money into something

that you don't know is even going to happen?

- It's kind of an uphill battle right now

because the last couple shows that Bobby played

are legendary==

a legendary mess

- Yeah there was this doom metal festival or something

and this promoter guy goes

"Man I need you to play this gig and headline this gig"

You know "You got to do it"

And I asked Bobby I said "You think we can do it?"

[cheers and applause]

I went to play the gig and it was packed with people

It's getting later and later and Bobby doesn't show

Then Bobby doesn't show

And the club owner comes up and goes "Man you got to play

They're gonna tear my club up"

I said "There's==I don't have a singer here"

Unfortunately our singer won't show up tonight

'cause he's just too fucking cool for all of us

so let's give it a big "Fuck you you asshole!"

Right?

- Fuck youl

- We're gonna play anyway

And I gave the microphone to the audience

I say "It's Pentagram karaoke night

Here you go"

[heavy metal music]

* *

Then Bobby showed up at the last two measures of the last song

I kicked him in the leg and then

and I think I had a cordless guitar that night or something

but I was playing from behind the speakers

where he couldn't rock out with me you know?

That's how it happened

and that kind of broke us up really

I said "Forget it man I can't do that again

Not at my age"

You know==shit I'm almost 20 now so

- Come on, you fucking junkiel

- Playl

- Play a song you fucking junkie!

You fucking dope-shooter!

You fucking rip-off!

Bullshit!

- He's got this Jim Morrison thing going on now

or something where you just never know what's gonna happen

[heavy metal music]

The last [laughs]

the last time he played was The Black Cat show in DC

- Oh okay The Black Cat incident?

That's like the incident at Roswell

2000 people crammed in this place

and I'm going "He's finally made it

Damn I'm glad I came tonight You know this is great"

- People are fucking charged

You see the band take the stage

Literally the guy next to me is biting his lip

But there's something missing Where's Bobby?

- Apparently he'd overdosed

And he fell asleep in my arms like a baby

in the dressing room

Somebody knew the rescue squad guy

They came and got him

and then they shot him up with something

I don't know what

He goes "I'm ready to play"

- I see Bobby on the side of the stage being propped up

Iooking like he's being carried over to the stage

- Grabs a mic

and that was it

Stumbles backwards falls on the drum riser

Crawls off the fucking stage

[audience catcalling]

- When he left it was in the big freight elevator==

in a straitjacket

And there's orange lights

and instead of the doors coming together like this

they shut like a mouth a giant metallic mouth

and he was gone

I thought "That's it

That's the last time I'll see him"

Man I'll remember that the rest of my life

[somber music]

* *

- You know I monitor Bobby's Myspace page

Soon as you announce these shows dude this thing lit up

It was just amazing

Every time I come on there's all these friend requests

I had 1 2 pages of friend requests

This might be fake but Bobby would like it

[laughs]

One of the best things for me dude==

this is a total triumph

This one kid says to me

"I only heard Pentagram two months ago

"but I can't believe the influence

it's had on my life already"

You know this is from like this 1 9-year-old kid

so in the middle of nowhere USA

who must have picked up a First Daze Here record or whatever

and it's just changed his life

and it's the same thing it did to me

and it's exactly what I want to do with Bobby

Oh right here

"Love love love your music

"Saw the opening band at a Witchcraft gig

"cover a tune of yours

The place went crazy"

"Pentagram forever

"Many many thanks for this great music

I love it and I need it every day"

And again just people just rooting for Bobby

Look at this It's great

It goes on and on and on

Again I just get choked up

'cause I'm a freaking sissy-hippie butt

I'm not a sissy but

[laughs]

At first I got involved with Bobby

I wanted to have Bobby's music heard

That was the main goal right?

It was just pretty much all about Bobby

Now at this point it's become about me too

My whole life has been in music

My greatest accomplishment to me personally is Pentagram

If I can't make it happen

then I've got to fucking wake up and grow up

like my parents keep telling me to do

Cut my hair and get a goddamn job

It's gonna suck [laughs]

[crickets chirping]

Bobby Hallie and I texted each other

and she sent me a couple of lengthy messages

that I can read if you want

She's not gonna be at either show

There's no way in hell

I do know what this means to you==trust me I do

- One of the nights You know what?

- Let me put it this way

I've got so much invested in this

I've gone beyond the deposit

I've spent my own money on this

I need these shows to happen

I'll do whatever it takes to make these shows happen

If it means fucking lying to Hallie

and telling her she'll get a $1 million

if she shows up I'll do it

But I just don't have high hopes

and you got to get it out of your head

that she's gonna show up or not

And I know that

- So what else am I supposed to do?

She basically said Bobby is==

you know in not so many words==

off his rocker doing cocaine again

You have to go down to Germantown

get him out of the sub-basement

and bring him to Philly

or he's not gonna play these shows

So she knows

- Listen you got to leave in ten hours

I don't know if she's wrong yet or not

Your hair's not dyed You should==

It's 1 0:30 at night

Your fucking clothes aren't dry-cleaned

I should have went down and got you

- [sighs] I hope so

- If you're doing what you said you were gonna do

let's just do it

We're gonna get in an argument we're gonna raise our voices

and your voice is gonna be even

- I will promise you I will send that text

Honestly Bobby I'm super stressed out right now

and I'm just==

I'll send her that text

but I got to finish this merch stuff

I got to do a bunch of shit for the shows

- Please relax tonight and take your bath and chill

and I'm gonna do

- Did you think this was gonna go any other way?

- Yeah I did

because Bobby's been really fucking focused lately

I mean he's been really heartbroken over Hallie

and that you know and any time

I need a ten-minute conversation out of him

I figure it's gonna be an hour 'cause I got to==

50 minutes of Hallie which is fine

He's my friend It's cool

I know what it's like to suffer that way and it's cool

But through it all he's really getting kind of focused

and it's like he's focused to prove this to her

I mean you know I think he thinks

if he pulls these two shows off

and shows that he can really do it

he'll be able to take care of her

and make money and all that

[sighs]

He's doing these shows just for her

And now that she's not there he doesn't want to do 'em

but he can't back out

I mean it's not just me

who's got money and time involved in this

It's a lot of people

[somber music]

* *

- # My final hour's getting near #

# The time is getting close, I fear #

# Footsteps at my door, I hear #

# Time to pay for life so dear #

# I want to flee, but it's too late #

# My soul is in the grip of fate #

# Close my eyes and one last breath #

# Feel the cold, cold hands of death #

- "Pentagarm"

"Pentagarm" it says

It does It says g-a-r-m

That's all right

I live in hell anyway What's the fucking difference?

- Check, uh

Uh-uh

Hey-hey-hey, check-check-check

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- Yeah there's my pants

That's all I'm wearing for pants

It's just black tight pants

This I'm thinking is what people like 'cause it's paisley

You know what I mean?

And it's very very old look

A '70 you know '60s whatever

It's hippie all right?

But you can't out-flamboyant that

That's a motherfucker isn't it?

I mean this is a true==

feel this thing

Feel how bizarre it feels

The first time that I started using these clothes

did I think I'd be breaking them out again?

I thought I'd be throwing them out

but I don't know about breaking them out

[laughs]

It's weird isn't it?

They're all my mom's

I just thank God above for everything that has transpired

and the people have phenomenally

astonished me astounded me

with their devotion and their mega support

And it's finally caught on to the fact that

what goes will always come back

- We came all the way from LA for this

and it's a really important night obviously

It's almost like Bobby's return you know?

[poignant orchestral music]

* *

- Hey everybody in the whole place man

God bless all of you

and I mean it from the bottom of my heart thank you

I mean it

- Thank you - Thank you Bobby

- I truly mean it God bless all of you

- Bobby!

[cheers and applause]

The legend!

* *

[cheers and applause]

[crowd chanting] Pentagram!

Pentagram! Pentagram! Pentagram!

[cheers and applause]

- I love you

God bless all of you

[cheering and whistling]

I can't believe this is real

I mean I do

I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart

and I mean this deep down inside

[cheers and applause]

You came through

Without you I ain't

You get my message?

[heavy metal music]

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[muffled singing]

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[heavy metal fades]

[poignant orchestral music]

* *

* *

[cheering fades in]

[strings fade out]

[heavy metal fades in]

* *

[cheers and applause]

Thank God for all of you!

[cheers and applause]

[indistinct chatter]

- Thank you Thank you

- Made my fucking lifetime man

- Thanks Bobby Thank you so much

I know you're tired Thank you so much

- Bobby that was fucking awesome

- That was great

- Thank you Bobby That was awesome man

It was right on

- It was overpowering

I'm still feeling== I'm getting choked up

I mean I went from laughing like hysterically

to like crying

I just==I can't explain it

and for me I just felt like a kid

To be on the side of the stage and watching my favorite band

at their biggest show ever

and knowing I had something to do with it I just==

it's like==it's a fucking Christmas gift dude

You know?

It's fucking Hanukkah Christmas and Kwanzaa

all in one

and Bobby Liebling delivering the presents

It's fucking great

If it all falls apart now I'm fucking happy as shit

If an arrow fucking comes hits me in the head right now

I don't care; I feel great

I'm just psyched dude

This is the best night of my life really

- I'm alive

I'm alive and that's something

that I would have never expected

and three or four hospital record books

say the same damn thing

But you know

who knows what you got in the cards right?

You got to spin that wheel

[Southern accent] "Life is like a box of chocolates

You never know what you're gonna get"

[somber music]

[sizzling]

Okay

Come out and get your breakfast baby

It's sausage and toast

Hallie? Hal?

- Coming - You want to come out and eat?

All right?

Here I'm gonna show them half of the eggs

I had to scramble them but they're==

Daddy makes a good breakfast

- After he played the Webster Hall show

he started getting the ball rolling again with his work

and had started like at least trying

to get out of his parents'

and having something to do

rather than just sitting around and destroying himself

I had always thought about him

He'd never left my mind

and I just called to check on him

It progressed from there

From him coming back here to visit and him being sober

we're just both really happy and it's pretty harmonious

Like I like his intensity

because it's different from what I am

and we meet like somewhere in the middle

But it's not so outrageous like how it was

It's a kind natural intensity rather than craziness

It's really been incredible to watch his metamorphosis

Bobby's like a miracle to me

I just have to kind of trust my heart and my instincts

in this situation

I have had to a lot like um

and just trust him because he's more likely

to pan out the way that I want him to

if I trust him sincerely

instead of you know just half-ass

like "Okay we'll see how it goes"

But like just having one foot in the water

- [barks]

Here==I'm not supposed to do this

but you can have one more piece of toast

Here one more bite for you is all

After the American tour we had a very deep unified period

that I recall pretty well

of bonding with intent of

this is for eternity

* *

- We got married the end of November

- Day before Thanksgiving

- Yeah it was the day before Thanksgiving

- You know right there That's it

It's for life

You know love is forever and love is for two

- I got to put it on his joke-shop finger too

the one with the knuckle cut out

As his wedding finger

We were getting married and I was like

"Aw I get to put it on his little fucked-up finger"

[laughs]

- [laughs]

- The cute little finger

- Yeah my joke-shop finger

- Yeah it's like

- It's like it doesn't have any knuckle

- Yeah there's no knuckle

- We've been through an awful lot

in the two-plus years

that we've you know known each other

and now we're on paper

and this is Mrs Robert Liebling

- I looked at all of your labs

Everything looks great

- I am very ecstatically happily married

and uh expecting

There's a bun in the oven

I don't know another way to put it you know?

It's gonna be corny anyway but it's not corny to me

It's my whole life

We're gonna have a baby

- Hold this?

- Do you have names picked out for girls or boys?

- Yeah we agree on nothing

- You can lie down - We agree on next to nothing

- [laughs]

Sounds about right

[gentle orchestral music]

[static crackling]

It's like coming in and out of my little machine

- Mm-hmm

- What a troublemaker

[static and rumbling]

Come on Come back

There we go

[heartbeat thumping]

Sounds perfect

Perfect

Right where it should be

[thumping continues]

That's great

- That's something I never dreamt would ever come about

And um look out world

There's gonna be another me [laughs]

* *

* My peace of mind depends on you *

* My space in time is here with you too *

* Drop all your dreams in the palm of my hands *

* Step in the blue light fulfill my plans *

* *

* Come with me now the midnight calls *

* All are asleep as the kingdom falls *

* Seeking our goals as a life had planned *

* Walk in the blue light you'll understand *

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