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[distorted guitar ringing]
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[feedback whining]
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[gentle orchestral music]
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[metal jingling]
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- [muttering indistinctly]
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Everything I have in here
you see is one of a kind
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This stuff's all chiffon stuff
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This stuff's my fancy stuff
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I bought these in 1 967
and they're still brand-new
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They got great big==
they're low hip-huggers right?
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They come down here
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And they got great big bells
on 'em man
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These are nice leather ones
They're real soft
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Feel the leather on those
They're soft
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They feel good don't they?
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I like a lot of paisley shit
you know
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I still got a lot
of paisley shit
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and it's all in
perfect condition
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These are all
my stage clothes
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and I only wore these like
once in a while
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because when I used to play
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I was saving them
for when I got big
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And that never happened
so I saved 'em forever
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- So what are his prospects?
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Because he keeps giving me
these rosy scenarios
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and I don't know
what to believe you know?
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- What does he tell you
specifically?
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- Well like one thing
I know is a delusion
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is that he's going in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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this year or next
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[laughs]
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I like him to have a dream
though you know?
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If he didn't have a dream
he's liable to kill himself
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- Are you really gonna do this
as a documentary?
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I could go out and play
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- I get nervous
You know what I mean?
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- Hmm?
- I get nervous that
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- Everybody does
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He does
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They're afraid I'm gonna die
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That's okay
I won't
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If you guys want me around
I'll stick around
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- Please
- If you really do
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I mean that in my heart
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I mean if you want me around
I'll stick around
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For just guys like you guys
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* *
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[birds chirping]
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- I was at a record show
with my girlfriend
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and um I found like this==
all this rare stuff
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that I totally wanted
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And then I was just looking
through one last bin
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and I saw the original
Pentagram record
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It was just a purple logo
against black
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It kind of looks like garbage
on the front
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You turn it around
and there's this like
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scary-ass picture of the band
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I was with my girlfriend
at the time
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and we were just like
crazy record collectors
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and just go blow all our money
on records and beer
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and then just have like
Friday and Saturday night
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listening to records
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[hard rock music]
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* *
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Man as soon as we put that
on the turntable
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that's like nothing
I'd heard before
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Really I mean it was just
so fucking heavy
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This was the only Pentagram
that was released
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and the only one I knew of
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I thought this was the beginning
of Pentagram
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I was working
at an indie record label
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and I was telling everybody
about it that I knew
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and someone said
"Oh yeah man
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"I get stuff no one's even
heard about before
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from the '70s
heavy hard rock"
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[music slows to a stop]
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I was like
"Come on how can this be?"
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I was obsessed with this band
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So he brings in this CD-R
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Here it is man
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a record that literally
changed my life
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I couldn't wait you know
just to get out of work
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and go home and listen to it
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At that point
I was riding a bike to work
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and I remember just riding home
as fast as I could you know?
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Just like a little kid
from school
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I rolled a joint==
it was a special occasion
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I rolled a big joint
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[lively drumbeat]
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* *
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And that first song
Forever My Queen,
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I mean
just fucking phenomenal
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[heavy metal music]
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- * I'm running away
with myself *
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* I think I ran
a little too far *
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* Your love is more than
a tease *
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- I couldn't believe it
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Some of the best hard rock
I've ever heard
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I mean lyrically
his vocal delivery
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Just the guitar in it
was out of control
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I mean for the early '70s
I couldn't believe it
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And mostly
not only was it brilliant
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but aside from that why doesn't
everyone talk about it?
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* *
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What's the equivalent
of hearing something like this
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for someone who's just obsessed
by music?
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It's a profession and their
passion and their private life
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It'sit's hard to explain
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It's literally like being
a devout Christian
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and walking down the street
one day and bumping into Jesus
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and he knows your name
and shakes your hand
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and asks you over for dinner
and drinks
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[laughs]
You know?
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And he calls you on the weekends
to go out
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I mean
l==I can't explain it
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My whole life I've just been
obsessed by music
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It's all I wanted to do
with my life
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And the only things
that made me truly happy
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were finding
an awesome record
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I was just completely driven
and obsessed
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I mean I was completely
in love
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and I just couldn't wait
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to make other people
fall in love with this
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- * Willing and we both
know how *
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* Baby you're gonna be
my queen *
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* A king always knows
what he means *
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- It was the perfect time for
Bobby Liebling and Pentagram
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to kind of==
to be rediscovered
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I wouldn't even say
they were a cult band
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They were kind of a secret
at that point
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But then there was
all this interest
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in early '70s hard rock
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There was a big
stoner-rock thing
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There were a lot of bands
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that just wanted to get
that early '70s sound
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and then get back to the basics
in metal
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All of a sudden
there's this band
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Oh you know
they have unlimited number
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of unreleased recordings
from the 1 970s
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and there hasn't been like
years and years
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of over-merchandising
or marketing
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or anything like that
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It was just like
this caveman found you know
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frozen in the Swiss Alps
somewhere
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that you cut out the block
of ice and bring it out
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and there's a specimen there
that still has active DNA
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Bobby Liebling is still
that frozen guy
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[song ends]
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[birds chirping]
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- If you see anything that says
Pentagram like
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Liebling Pentagram
blah-blah-blah project
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or any of that on the CDs
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we will find find for you guys
'cause you must hear this
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This is more important to me
than any other shit
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That's why you must hear
the stuff
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[heavy metal music]
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# You are the highway star #
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Hey world premiere!
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VH1 in the trash heap
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[scoffs]
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* *
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# Oh, take me away #
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# I want to do it, baby #
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Oh man I know I'll play again
I can't help it
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Look I'm addicted
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You know it's like heroin
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I can get up there
and rock with the best of 'em
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* *
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Cool E right here
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# Wrapping your soul out
on evil #
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[guitar solo soars]
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* *
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[music continues in background]
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* *
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- I thought he was very good
when he was younger
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I don't==you know I didn't go
to many of his shows
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I didn't want to make him
uncomfortable
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but he did have a==
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Would you please get
[speaks indistinctly]
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Thank you
Excuse me
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No not just as a mother
I was very critical of him
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But I thought he had a==
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just a natural instinct
to perform
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And you couldn't stop him
even if we wanted to you know?
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It was sort of inborn
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- Far superior than
some of these real big bands
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that I've seen
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Big guys
that are making millions
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[heavy metal music]
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- Have you ever done anything
else besides rock and roll?
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- Nothin'
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Yeah this==
drugs
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Sex drugs
rock and roll
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Well I mean look at me
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You know I'm an old soldier
right?
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I've been doing drugs
44 years
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I've been addicted to heroin
for 39
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I've been addicted to crack
for about 22
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I've been in off-houses
detoxes
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You know that's why I smile
and tell people
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"I'm alive man"
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I'm not supposed to be alive
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Uh did you see where
the piece of crack went?
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The big piece of crack?
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Oh my God look there's==
oh no that's a Band-Aid
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- No, I know
It fell down into
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- You saw it?
I mean the place is a hellhole
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It's a shit-hole
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It's a sloth house
and I hate it
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That's why I want to get out
man
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I don't like dirt see?
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- You want to get out?
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- Believe it or not yeah
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Fucking A
I'm gonna get out
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Are you kidding?
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That looks like rat poop
It's not==
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[heavy metal music]
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* *
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# And these are gonna be
some of my last days here #
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# I'm wasting away,
and time to #
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- He's been close to death
ever since I've known him
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I can't tell you
how many times
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I get a message that he leaves
in the middle of the night
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saying good-bye
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- He didn't live a hard life
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and then come back
and try and write love songs
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He wrote songs from
the perspective of somebody
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that was metaphysically
in the sub-basement
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He's used that to make very
harrowing bone-chilling music
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- Man I remember sitting
at the side of a train track
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This was like where I lived
side of a train tracks
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I found a boom box
in a dumpster
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and the only tape I had
was Be Forewarned
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He speaks truths that not many
people can see or know
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It's pain
and it's empowerment
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and it's just all these things
in one purely from the heart
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It's almost like on a smaller
scale like my bible you know?
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- The first time I ever saw
footage of Bobby
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I never seen nothing like it
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He definitely understood
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the seductive powers
of rock and roll man
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and he could just go from
this textbook rock-and-roll guy
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and then all of a sudden just
crouch down like the devil
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You know when you're a kid
man
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that's about the fucking coolest
thing you can see
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[laughs]
So
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- There's something about
I guess the mystique of Bobby
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He just has that persona
you know
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and that charisma that people
just like latch on to
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And then his drug addictions
and things like that
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it's added to all that
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but it's also a hell
for a lot of people
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who've played in bands with him
over the years
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I mean if you look on
the Pentagram Myspace site
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on the left column
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it's got all the prior members
of Pentagram
257
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and it's you know==
it's like a list that long
258
00:12:57,843 --> 00:13:00,334
- The potential's there
but you know
259
00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:02,108
there's certain personal things
in his life
260
00:13:02,148 --> 00:13:04,708
that are keeping him from
going all the way
261
00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:10,052
[heavy metal music]
262
00:13:12,191 --> 00:13:13,215
- Even though I talked to him
263
00:13:13,259 --> 00:13:15,250
and seemed like
it was a dead end
264
00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:17,228
the guy's got some kind of fight
in him
265
00:13:17,263 --> 00:13:19,128
He's got a flame
that won't go out man
266
00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:22,601
I wanted to start a fire
with it you know?
267
00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:26,332
So today we're headed down to
uh see Bobby
268
00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:28,897
Um
I have a toll coming up
269
00:13:28,941 --> 00:13:30,704
Do you want to do this
after the toll?
270
00:13:36,248 --> 00:13:37,510
[cars whooshing]
271
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- Thank you
- Thanks
272
00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:44,723
So today I'm gonna go down
273
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I have notes and an outline
274
00:13:46,792 --> 00:13:50,751
of what I think the plan
should be
275
00:13:50,796 --> 00:13:52,286
And even if we get
a contract signed
276
00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:54,822
and it takes us forever
to start recording
277
00:13:54,867 --> 00:13:56,459
shit can fall apart man
278
00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:58,470
So we really
got to fucking move on it
279
00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:00,665
and move on it fast
and make it happen
280
00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:02,731
You know what we're gonna get
a fucking record made
281
00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:03,764
God damn it
282
00:14:03,809 --> 00:14:05,071
[laughs] I hope
283
00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:06,839
Practically speaking
the one thing I can do
284
00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,541
for Pentagram and Bobby
is give 'em good direction
285
00:14:09,582 --> 00:14:10,879
And something I mentioned
to him
286
00:14:10,916 --> 00:14:12,315
like "Bobby you know what?
287
00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:14,717
You're fucking almost dead man
Unfortunately it sucks"
288
00:14:14,753 --> 00:14:16,721
He tells me this
all the time
289
00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:20,247
"So you got one more shot to
really make another big mark"
290
00:14:20,292 --> 00:14:22,658
And that's what I really want
to help Bobby do
291
00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:23,889
It just has to happen
292
00:14:23,929 --> 00:14:26,921
There's got to be a final
finale chapter
293
00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:28,263
in the story
of Bobby Liebling
294
00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:30,359
[birds chirping]
295
00:14:30,402 --> 00:14:32,370
I really think that you guys
can do it
296
00:14:32,404 --> 00:14:37,341
and come back together
and do a great record
297
00:14:37,376 --> 00:14:38,673
I haven't even started
298
00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,679
negotiating the contract yet
at all
299
00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:42,510
It's just figuring out
if they're interested
300
00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:43,947
figuring out what
they're willing to give
301
00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:45,348
for an advance
302
00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:48,683
We also have to figure out
Geof and Greg or whatever==
303
00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:50,746
are willing to be
on the record
304
00:14:50,789 --> 00:14:54,156
So part of the reason I want
to go with Housecore dude
305
00:14:54,193 --> 00:14:59,825
is Philip is the contemporary
hard rock hero right?
306
00:14:59,865 --> 00:15:01,799
You are the dude
from the past
307
00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:04,701
He's gonna bring you
huge visibility
308
00:15:04,737 --> 00:15:09,333
So what we need to do is
we're gonna lay out a budget
309
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,774
that we're all gonna
have to agree to
310
00:15:10,809 --> 00:15:13,710
and we're all gonna
have to stick to
311
00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:16,738
and I want to see this shit
happen
312
00:15:16,782 --> 00:15:18,215
I have too much time
invested in it
313
00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:21,242
to not even follow through
at this point
314
00:15:21,287 --> 00:15:22,584
So what I'm gonna do is
315
00:15:22,621 --> 00:15:24,748
I'm gonna record him
Backlash, Suffering,
316
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:26,223
and Everything's
Turning To Night
317
00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,819
and hand it to him backstage
at the Down show
318
00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:31,659
But the other thing is==
too is
319
00:15:31,697 --> 00:15:35,793
it's my word
I'm giving to them you know?
320
00:15:35,834 --> 00:15:37,233
Before all this happens
321
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:40,261
make sure that you're
1 00% into it and committed
322
00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:42,297
and we're gonna go with it
323
00:15:42,341 --> 00:15:45,310
So this what I'm handing you
is my final==
324
00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:47,676
my final effort
to fucking help you
325
00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:52,412
and try to fucking put a great
record on the history books
326
00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,783
- You know what I want to do?
I want to live
327
00:15:54,820 --> 00:15:56,253
I want to live a little man
328
00:15:56,288 --> 00:15:57,653
- Well here's the thing
329
00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:59,555
- I want to live
I don't want to die anymore
330
00:15:59,591 --> 00:16:01,388
- We do this record bro right?
331
00:16:01,427 --> 00:16:03,054
Hopefully it'll help you
get out of here
332
00:16:03,095 --> 00:16:05,529
We're gonna figure out what
we're gonna get for percentages
333
00:16:05,564 --> 00:16:08,624
what your royalties
are gonna be all that stuff
334
00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:11,135
- I have to eat
I have to make a living
335
00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:12,432
I can't==I can't do this
336
00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:14,564
irresponsible little
crying child trick forever
337
00:16:14,606 --> 00:16:15,834
I can't
338
00:16:15,874 --> 00:16:19,105
I've been Peter Pan
my whole life man
339
00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:22,671
There's times
you do something
340
00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:24,182
I want me back
341
00:16:24,216 --> 00:16:27,583
I'm tired of giving me out
and giving up and running away
342
00:16:27,619 --> 00:16:29,246
I run away with you know
343
00:16:29,288 --> 00:16:33,520
the old piece of glass
you know?
344
00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,757
If I smoke any crack after
today you can have my records
345
00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:38,854
How about that?
346
00:16:38,897 --> 00:16:40,888
I'll put it on the camera
347
00:16:40,933 --> 00:16:45,131
- "If Robert Liebling smokes
crack after today 1 0/1 2/07
348
00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:47,536
"Demian Fenton
and Sean Pelletier
349
00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:51,703
will own Robert Liebling's
entire record collection"
350
00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:55,680
- Before you do it
it should say "1 B"
351
00:16:55,714 --> 00:17:01,175
Possession should take place
only if and after 9 days==
352
00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:03,882
90 days or whatever days
you know==
353
00:17:03,922 --> 00:17:05,787
30 days 60 days 90 days
354
00:17:05,824 --> 00:17:07,086
It's up to you
I don't care
355
00:17:07,126 --> 00:17:08,525
- We're not gonna take
your records
356
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,050
We just want you to stop
smoking crack
357
00:17:10,095 --> 00:17:11,960
- Yeah yeah
- Sign this
358
00:17:11,997 --> 00:17:13,464
- No but you should put
359
00:17:13,499 --> 00:17:16,093
- Do you want me to hold
the crack when you sign that?
360
00:17:16,135 --> 00:17:17,568
- You know what I mean?
361
00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:21,797
[heavy metal music]
362
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,239
- Throughout Pentagram's career
363
00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:26,403
they've really come so close
to really making it
364
00:17:26,445 --> 00:17:28,106
- Our manager at the time
Gordon Fletcher
365
00:17:28,147 --> 00:17:29,171
one of the two managers
366
00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:30,738
knew a lot of people
in the business
367
00:17:30,783 --> 00:17:34,378
and he knew Gene and Paul
in KISS
368
00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:36,320
So we had this set up for them
369
00:17:36,355 --> 00:17:38,050
to come see
one of our rehearsals
370
00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:42,527
- It was in a basement of
a house that I was living in
371
00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:46,395
Wasn't really a heavy metal
studio let's say
372
00:17:46,432 --> 00:17:49,230
- The day that KISS
was going to be arriving
373
00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:50,758
Greg and Vincent had to work
374
00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:52,998
and they were working
as janitors
375
00:17:53,038 --> 00:17:55,768
- So unfortunately Vincent
a brilliant guitar player
376
00:17:55,808 --> 00:17:57,537
and Greg heavier-than-hell
bass player
377
00:17:57,576 --> 00:18:00,044
were off cleaning toilets
378
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,307
I don't know
379
00:18:01,346 --> 00:18:02,813
If KISS was coming
to my house to watch my band
380
00:18:02,848 --> 00:18:03,974
I would quit my fucking job
381
00:18:04,016 --> 00:18:05,142
I wouldn't even go to==
382
00:18:05,184 --> 00:18:06,811
never mind going to work
that day
383
00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:11,551
- # All right #
384
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:14,718
* *
385
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,887
- So Gene and Paul show up
386
00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:18,556
Toilet boys are still at work
387
00:18:18,597 --> 00:18:20,565
Not only were they off
cleaning toilets that day
388
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:24,262
but they hitchhiked to work
389
00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:25,270
- They didn't have a car
390
00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:26,794
They had to hitchhike home
391
00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,966
wearing some type
of janitor-type outfit
392
00:18:29,007 --> 00:18:31,100
[car horn honks]
393
00:18:31,143 --> 00:18:33,134
- I guess we got off work
Vince and I did
394
00:18:33,178 --> 00:18:34,839
and we got to the house
395
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,280
We're all grubby
from being janitors
396
00:18:37,316 --> 00:18:38,283
[laughs]
397
00:18:38,317 --> 00:18:42,048
* *
398
00:18:42,087 --> 00:18:44,817
- The landlord who I guess
lived in the house
399
00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:46,950
started bitching and complaining
that it was too loud
400
00:18:46,992 --> 00:18:48,084
and had to shut down
401
00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:49,185
- Came running
402
00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:51,321
"Man you guys
got to turn it down!"
403
00:18:51,363 --> 00:18:54,662
And I'm like "God damn it man
KISS is here" you know?
404
00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:57,066
- Fucking KISS is in the house
watching them play
405
00:18:57,102 --> 00:18:59,400
You think they'd give
the landlord something
406
00:18:59,438 --> 00:19:01,167
Some peanut butter sandwiches
and 25 bucks
407
00:19:01,206 --> 00:19:03,003
to fucking go away
for the day
408
00:19:03,041 --> 00:19:08,673
But you know so it was just==
I guess it was just horrible
409
00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:09,806
From what I hear KISS
410
00:19:09,848 --> 00:19:11,338
some of the things
they said are
411
00:19:11,383 --> 00:19:13,943
"Well your name's Pentagram
There's only four of you
412
00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,817
"The singer and the bass player
have bad skin
413
00:19:15,854 --> 00:19:18,049
The drummer's too fat"
414
00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:19,352
And they blew it
415
00:19:19,391 --> 00:19:21,188
I mean should have taken
the day off from work
416
00:19:21,226 --> 00:19:22,921
fucking did a month of aerobics
417
00:19:22,961 --> 00:19:25,259
fucking got some Oxy pads
you know?
418
00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:28,824
* *
419
00:19:28,867 --> 00:19:32,234
[birds chirping]
420
00:19:37,376 --> 00:19:38,900
- Should I pull 'em out?
421
00:19:41,914 --> 00:19:45,441
Some Enchanted Evening
422
00:19:45,484 --> 00:19:49,181
My son has the platinum
Some Enchanted Evening
423
00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:51,917
I'm told that
the Johnny Winter is platinum
424
00:19:51,957 --> 00:19:54,152
I'm told that Blue Oyster Cult's
first three records
425
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,592
have gone gold
426
00:19:55,627 --> 00:20:00,326
but Sony is too cheap
to send me gold records
427
00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:02,060
Uh this is
428
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:06,469
I had done at least a couple
of Blue Oyster Cult records
429
00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:10,339
I was looking for the real thing
to follow Blue Oyster Cult
430
00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:11,899
* *
431
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:17,109
Pentagram really seemed like
sort of a street Black Sabbath
432
00:20:17,149 --> 00:20:19,014
That was just what I was
looking for you know?
433
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:23,681
I wanted the male-dominant
thrust of heavy metal
434
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:26,282
But it sort of had a "Fuck you
and the horse you rode in on"
435
00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:27,792
kind of thing
436
00:20:27,826 --> 00:20:31,193
Post-Page pre-Sex Pistols
437
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,755
It was almost as though
I'm sitting at a computer==
438
00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:35,528
if there were such things then==
439
00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:40,504
kind of generating this band
that was perfect for 1 97 4
440
00:20:40,539 --> 00:20:44,373
I was ready to seriously
seriously commit to them
441
00:20:44,409 --> 00:20:48,277
[heavy metal music]
442
00:20:48,313 --> 00:20:49,780
- Here was our big break
443
00:20:49,815 --> 00:20:53,080
Columbia records is paying for
us to go do a demo in New York
444
00:20:53,118 --> 00:20:55,712
- And you know we're
on the train to New York
445
00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:58,314
Man I'm seeing stars
in my eyes
446
00:20:58,357 --> 00:21:00,416
- We went into the studio
and did three tracks
447
00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:02,927
with Murray Krugman
producing it
448
00:21:02,961 --> 00:21:05,930
- We get through
all the rhythm tracks
449
00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:08,762
and Bobby's laying down
the vocals
450
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,427
- Bobby completed
a vocal track
451
00:21:10,469 --> 00:21:12,061
and Murray said
"Okay that's fine
452
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,571
Come in and listen to it"
453
00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:15,800
And Bobby says "I'd like to==
I'd like to redo that
454
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:18,867
There was a couple parts
I wasn't really happy with"
455
00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:20,309
Murray says
"Don't worry about it
456
00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:22,370
We'll fix it in postproduction
Just==it was fine"
457
00:21:22,414 --> 00:21:23,938
- We could have corrected
that vocal
458
00:21:23,982 --> 00:21:26,109
but there would have been
some other thing
459
00:21:26,151 --> 00:21:29,814
where he's hearing a finished
$200000 record in his head
460
00:21:29,855 --> 00:21:34,588
and can't understand why
an eight-hour demo
461
00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:36,617
isn't gonna give that to him
462
00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:39,563
- And Bobby got real upset
about it
463
00:21:39,598 --> 00:21:42,066
and called Gordon
who was our manager
464
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:44,568
out into the singing booth
465
00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:47,902
- "Gordon
can I see you a minute?"
466
00:21:47,939 --> 00:21:49,907
Pain in the ass I was
467
00:21:49,941 --> 00:21:51,431
Called him out in the main room
468
00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:56,379
Made sure I was by a live mic
469
00:21:56,415 --> 00:22:00,511
I said "What's this guy being
such a fucking asshole for?"
470
00:22:00,552 --> 00:22:02,349
- Murray just got up
471
00:22:02,387 --> 00:22:04,855
and as I recall
he didn't say a word
472
00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:06,255
Vincent thought
he said we were
473
00:22:06,291 --> 00:22:08,589
the most difficult band
to work with and walked out
474
00:22:08,627 --> 00:22:10,356
I don't recall him saying
anything
475
00:22:10,395 --> 00:22:12,727
I just recall him getting up
and walking out of the studio
476
00:22:12,764 --> 00:22:14,254
without saying a word
477
00:22:14,299 --> 00:22:16,824
And we never talked to him
again
478
00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:19,860
- I felt like killing Bobby
479
00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:21,372
- I've fantasized
many many times
480
00:22:21,406 --> 00:22:24,500
if Bobby had just said
"No problem" you know
481
00:22:24,543 --> 00:22:27,808
and walked in and we'd listened
back to the session
482
00:22:27,846 --> 00:22:29,609
What would have happened
the rest of that day?
483
00:22:29,648 --> 00:22:31,445
What would have happened
the rest of that week?
484
00:22:31,483 --> 00:22:35,044
And what would have happened
with the rest of our career?
485
00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:36,714
- We would have gotten a deal
through them
486
00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:38,382
No question
487
00:22:38,423 --> 00:22:42,621
Record deal national tour
fame and fortune
488
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:46,392
It would have happened
489
00:22:46,431 --> 00:22:50,561
There
but for the grace of God
490
00:22:54,406 --> 00:22:57,398
[announcer speaking indistinctly
over television]
491
00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:03,544
- I used to say to him
492
00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:05,948
"When I see you
on Saturday Night Live,
493
00:23:05,984 --> 00:23:07,849
I'll know you made it"
494
00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:10,377
And you know
I've seen some lousy acts
495
00:23:10,422 --> 00:23:12,549
That shocks me
496
00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:14,354
Bobby Pellet's here
497
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,485
- Hehe's here?
498
00:23:15,527 --> 00:23:17,256
- Yeah
- Good lord
499
00:23:17,295 --> 00:23:19,286
- Everybody in unison==
500
00:23:19,331 --> 00:23:21,322
I mean total==
501
00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:22,526
"Move him out of your house"
502
00:23:22,567 --> 00:23:24,364
- Everybody everybody
503
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,132
I mean to this day
504
00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:28,298
There's always tons of laundry
around here
505
00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:29,329
I don't know
506
00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:30,932
He can change three times a day
507
00:23:30,976 --> 00:23:33,206
He's already changed twice
today
508
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:34,837
He keeps spilling his coffee
509
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,646
- Even now everything that
he has comes from us
510
00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:43,416
- How much have you given
for Bobby?
511
00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:46,288
- Financially?
512
00:23:46,324 --> 00:23:47,313
- I have
513
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,987
- Financially
over $1 million
514
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,764
- Thanks appreciate it
515
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,028
- All right good
516
00:23:56,067 --> 00:23:58,865
Brush your hair?
517
00:23:58,904 --> 00:24:00,599
- There's Fig Newtons
aren't there?
518
00:24:00,639 --> 00:24:01,765
Mom?
519
00:24:01,807 --> 00:24:03,240
There's Fig Newtons
aren't there?
520
00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:04,242
Yeah
521
00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:05,300
- I've always been afraid
522
00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:07,243
that he'd either go out
and steal
523
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:08,769
or knock somebody
524
00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:10,805
You don't know
Addicts are crazy
525
00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:11,975
- It's a very tough thing
526
00:24:12,017 --> 00:24:13,814
They call us enablers
527
00:24:13,852 --> 00:24:16,218
I said "Really?
528
00:24:16,254 --> 00:24:18,313
"Did you ever see my son?
529
00:24:18,356 --> 00:24:19,846
Do you know him?"
530
00:24:19,891 --> 00:24:20,858
"No"
531
00:24:20,892 --> 00:24:23,258
"And you're in
social services?
532
00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:27,857
Where is your sensitivity
to people?"
533
00:24:27,899 --> 00:24:30,459
His brilliance
in the music field
534
00:24:30,502 --> 00:24:34,529
has never been to fruition
because of the problem
535
00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:37,337
He has all this talent now
536
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,808
- Yes he still has talent
537
00:24:38,844 --> 00:24:40,277
- He has it
538
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:43,406
- Do you guys think that Bobby
could stop doing drugs?
539
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,279
- [sighs]
540
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:48,844
- At this stage of the game
of anybody you know
541
00:24:48,887 --> 00:24:49,979
it's a prognosis question
542
00:24:50,021 --> 00:24:52,387
- Yes
if he were out of pain
543
00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:56,520
He's in a lot of pain that
people don't realize that
544
00:24:56,561 --> 00:25:00,053
And he also has truthfully
a delusion
545
00:25:00,098 --> 00:25:03,693
that he has
a parasitic infection
546
00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:10,834
Bobby's not insane but he can
act insane with the coke
547
00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:13,037
- My fingers turn black
every night
548
00:25:13,078 --> 00:25:14,045
There it's starting now
549
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:15,876
That's not from the coke
550
00:25:15,914 --> 00:25:18,439
That's all parasites
551
00:25:18,483 --> 00:25:20,747
See those dots that look
like dots embedded?
552
00:25:20,785 --> 00:25:21,843
- Mm-hmm
553
00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:24,355
- All of them
554
00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:26,016
Did you see my lips?
555
00:25:26,057 --> 00:25:27,251
They're not chapped
556
00:25:27,292 --> 00:25:29,192
Come here
557
00:25:29,227 --> 00:25:30,524
See the line
along the bottom?
558
00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:32,496
- Mm-hmm
- That's all parasites
559
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,998
See all that black?
560
00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:39,901
Those are all parasites
561
00:25:39,938 --> 00:25:42,168
- Holy fuck man
- Yeah
562
00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:44,038
- Never saw it huh?
563
00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:48,739
1 5 years I've had to live
with that
564
00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:52,409
- See when he starts
pulling his skin
565
00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:55,886
he does what he thinks==
he calls "debriding"
566
00:25:55,921 --> 00:25:57,388
He'll pull at it
567
00:25:57,422 --> 00:25:59,549
and put it on
a piece of paper towel
568
00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:01,616
and pull out
his magnifying glass
569
00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:03,093
and he'll come==
570
00:26:03,128 --> 00:26:05,119
"You never want to look
You never want to look"
571
00:26:05,163 --> 00:26:08,724
I said "I've spent 1 0000 hours
looking Bobby
572
00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:11,531
It's not bugs
It's dead skin"
573
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:14,539
If he didn't pick his arms
574
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:15,870
I know they'd heal
575
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:19,240
and I know
everything would be fine
576
00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,369
- It's a fact
577
00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:26,317
I have something unknown
that is parasitic
578
00:26:26,351 --> 00:26:28,717
- Truth is that she said
you've been to the hospital
579
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,311
about 50 times
since you lived here
580
00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:31,788
- Mm-hmm
581
00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:34,053
- We're gonna be there for
eight hours in the waiting room
582
00:26:34,092 --> 00:26:35,787
and they're gonna let you out
583
00:26:35,827 --> 00:26:39,786
Unless you go there and say
you want to go to detox
584
00:26:39,831 --> 00:26:41,264
and then they'll admit you
585
00:26:41,299 --> 00:26:44,063
- They're not gonna treat me
for this in detox
586
00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:46,195
- I've watched you smoke
a fuckload of crack right now
587
00:26:46,237 --> 00:26:47,534
- Mm-hmm
- It's in your blood
588
00:26:47,572 --> 00:26:49,096
- Mm-hmm
- They're gonna get you in
589
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,040
Then once you're in there
you're away from this
590
00:26:51,076 --> 00:26:52,304
maybe you can heal more
591
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,141
- I want to go
to the hospital
592
00:26:54,179 --> 00:26:58,081
not that I want to go
in rehab
593
00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,050
I want to go to the hospital
594
00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:02,849
because if I'm not treated
for this
595
00:27:02,887 --> 00:27:05,378
I'm gonna die
596
00:27:05,423 --> 00:27:08,392
[somber piano music]
597
00:27:08,426 --> 00:27:15,423
* *
598
00:27:17,002 --> 00:27:18,970
It makes me nasty
599
00:27:19,004 --> 00:27:21,837
It makes me confused
600
00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:24,398
Probably 'cause it's eating
my organs away
601
00:27:24,442 --> 00:27:29,607
Probably 'cause it is eating
my brain
602
00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,173
All I do is cry all night
603
00:27:32,217 --> 00:27:34,947
and pray to God to die
604
00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:41,983
* *
605
00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:45,190
- I've taken Bobby here
a few times
606
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:49,826
I know he's intent on getting
his hands and arms addressed
607
00:27:49,868 --> 00:27:53,235
and that rehab is
a secondary solution
608
00:27:53,271 --> 00:27:56,365
And as far as what he was saying
30 minutes ago
609
00:27:56,408 --> 00:28:00,435
suicide being
the third solution
610
00:28:00,478 --> 00:28:03,572
I don't==I wish he wasn't
going through any of this
611
00:28:03,615 --> 00:28:06,106
but there's nothing
that I can do
612
00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:09,609
except just support him
you know?
613
00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:11,417
You know Bobby would be
the first to tell you
614
00:28:11,456 --> 00:28:12,753
years back
615
00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:14,725
he kind of made that deal
with the devil right?
616
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:16,784
He kind of sold his soul
617
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,659
and he's fighting like hell
to steal it back
618
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:22,133
one piece at a time
619
00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,032
- So what are they gonna do?
620
00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:31,702
'Cause I feel comfortable
in these places
621
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:34,303
more than I do
in my own home
622
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:35,835
I like hospitals
623
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,077
That's sick
but I love hospitals
624
00:28:39,117 --> 00:28:42,609
Pellet has been==
has been like a god to me
625
00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:44,121
He's basically a godsend
626
00:28:44,155 --> 00:28:45,588
I love him
I love all you guys
627
00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:48,217
You know for coming here
628
00:28:48,259 --> 00:28:50,489
Thank you very very much
629
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,723
[somber music]
630
00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:58,736
- On Sundays we'd take him
to this little deli
631
00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:01,136
and they had a jukebox
632
00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:03,902
There he was only
a year and a half there
633
00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:06,069
So he'd go over there
and bounce to it
634
00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:07,510
and he'd turn around
635
00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:10,514
* You load 1 6 tons
what do you get? *
636
00:29:10,548 --> 00:29:13,642
He sang Tennessee Ernie Ford
637
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:19,146
And everybody "Look at that
little boy" you know?
638
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:21,488
He had quite a good childhood
639
00:29:21,526 --> 00:29:24,427
- He had an excellent childhood
640
00:29:24,462 --> 00:29:27,761
- Later teens he used to walk
in the door
641
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,461
He'd step in that door
right away
642
00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:32,970
Before he even saw him
he'd yell out
643
00:29:33,004 --> 00:29:34,835
"Did you cut your hair?"
644
00:29:34,873 --> 00:29:37,467
That was I mean every night
645
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,637
That's when they kind of had
a little parting
646
00:29:40,678 --> 00:29:44,910
because of his hair
and lifestyle and so forth
647
00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:49,477
A lot of Bobby's problems
I believe subconsciously
648
00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:54,549
is an innate competitive thing
with his father
649
00:29:54,592 --> 00:29:57,083
- I think she's right
She's right in that
650
00:29:57,128 --> 00:29:59,255
She's right in that
651
00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:02,664
I worked for eight
secretaries of defense
652
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,430
Originally appointed by
President Johnson
653
00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:11,773
kept on by Nixon
and by President Ford
654
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:16,179
Where the hell
did you find that?
655
00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:19,775
I always looked up to people
656
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:23,811
who were in our society
657
00:30:23,855 --> 00:30:27,518
Very very responsible
658
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:32,929
And I want my son
to have been like that
659
00:30:32,964 --> 00:30:34,056
- Joe
but he's not
660
00:30:34,098 --> 00:30:36,362
- I can't do anything
about it now
661
00:30:40,138 --> 00:30:43,198
- What I want for Bobby
just for him to be happy
662
00:30:43,241 --> 00:30:44,299
- Just for him to be==
663
00:30:44,342 --> 00:30:46,572
- To find a good woman
664
00:30:46,611 --> 00:30:48,272
- Two different categories
665
00:30:48,313 --> 00:30:49,974
- Why?
He needs that Joe
666
00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:52,642
- I just want him to be well
667
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,244
Within the range of normalcy
668
00:30:55,286 --> 00:30:58,221
With that of course
goes then to societal things
669
00:30:58,256 --> 00:30:59,883
that she's talking about
670
00:30:59,924 --> 00:31:04,156
* *
671
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:13,034
[windshield wipers swishing]
672
00:31:17,842 --> 00:31:20,072
- To play the next message,
press one
673
00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:21,203
[electronic beep]
674
00:31:21,246 --> 00:31:22,577
- Hey, Dem
It's Pellet
675
00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:24,172
Listen, I'm just giving you
a quick call
676
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,477
I finally heard from Bobby
677
00:31:25,516 --> 00:31:28,679
after weeks of him being
missing in action
678
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,745
He's been in Philadelphia,
of all places
679
00:31:30,788 --> 00:31:34,554
Dude, he met some
young hot girl named Hallie,
680
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:36,890
and he's been up here
spending time with her
681
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:39,226
She supposedly is not
a drug addict
682
00:31:39,264 --> 00:31:40,629
I'm not sure
what the whole deal is,
683
00:31:40,665 --> 00:31:42,724
but I just thought
I'd tell you
684
00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:44,860
It looks like there's gonna
be some forward motion,
685
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,530
'cause he's psyched
and really positive
686
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,004
Give me a call
when you get this, okay?
687
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,563
See ya
688
00:31:49,607 --> 00:31:51,438
- This message will be saved
689
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,906
- The way he met her
from what I understand is
690
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:00,076
she was a fan
691
00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:02,109
They were speaking on the phone
quite a bit
692
00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:04,883
so she came one time
with her cousin
693
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,689
Then a couple of weeks later
she invited him to visit
694
00:32:08,726 --> 00:32:10,193
And that's how it started
695
00:32:10,228 --> 00:32:13,720
He's been going to Philly
nearly every weekend
696
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:20,227
Do you have an elevator
at 201 South 1 3th?
697
00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:24,435
He got an apartment==we got him
an apartment I should say==
698
00:32:24,475 --> 00:32:28,275
in Philadelphia
just a few blocks from her
699
00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:30,838
So he'll have to come in
through the front?
700
00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:34,841
Is it wide?
Because he has a very wide sofa
701
00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:37,377
Apparently they're in love
702
00:32:37,422 --> 00:32:39,356
Or whatever you know?
703
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:40,823
[laughs]
704
00:32:40,858 --> 00:32:42,826
I don't know if it's==
I shouldn't say this==
705
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:44,384
in love or in lust
but
706
00:32:44,429 --> 00:32:45,794
[laughs]
707
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:48,799
[heavy metal music]
708
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:56,831
* *
709
00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:05,575
- Yeah I was very very Ionely
down here for a long time
710
00:33:05,616 --> 00:33:08,676
but uh
I'm not Ionely anymore
711
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,747
because I have a==
very much a purpose you know?
712
00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:15,816
Perfect time to meet Hallie
713
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:18,693
About time somebody loved Bob
for Bob again
714
00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:22,564
There's been nobody a long time
who's loved Bob for Bob
715
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,932
Nobody loves me like Hallie
Nobody
716
00:33:24,969 --> 00:33:27,767
I've never loved a woman
like Hallie in my life
717
00:33:27,805 --> 00:33:31,434
Never in my life
and never will again
718
00:33:31,476 --> 00:33:33,273
- He's got to take
winter boots
719
00:33:33,311 --> 00:33:35,211
I don't care what he says
720
00:33:35,246 --> 00:33:36,213
Are they that bad?
721
00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:38,408
They're dorky he says
722
00:33:38,449 --> 00:33:39,916
Just for the snow
723
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:42,511
Are they that dorky?
724
00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:44,384
Huh?
725
00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:48,950
* *
726
00:33:48,993 --> 00:33:51,655
Tell him he needs some lamps
727
00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:52,856
- I got everything like that
728
00:33:52,897 --> 00:33:55,092
- You got the coconut oil
729
00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:58,000
- Don't worry about that
730
00:33:58,036 --> 00:33:59,128
- All right where is it?
731
00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:03,664
[clattering]
732
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:07,778
[hissing]
733
00:34:10,748 --> 00:34:15,344
[all coughing]
734
00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:17,217
- You know that fire
that just started?
735
00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:19,883
Right as the flames
hit the stove
736
00:34:19,924 --> 00:34:23,519
this fell off Bob's neck
737
00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:25,961
Now how fucking weird is that?
738
00:34:25,997 --> 00:34:27,521
That's weird
739
00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:28,623
'Cause you were here==
740
00:34:28,666 --> 00:34:30,657
Them flames came out of nowhere
right?
741
00:34:30,701 --> 00:34:32,396
Out of fucking nowhere
742
00:34:32,437 --> 00:34:35,497
This popped right off his neck
right as the fire started
743
00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:37,098
Do the math
744
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:40,943
One bad omen after another
dude
745
00:34:40,978 --> 00:34:42,570
I don't know
746
00:34:42,613 --> 00:34:46,413
I think Bobby
might just be back
747
00:34:46,451 --> 00:34:48,214
I hope this girl is everything
he thinks man
748
00:34:48,252 --> 00:34:49,412
I don't know her
749
00:34:49,454 --> 00:34:50,751
Yeah I hope it works out
750
00:34:50,788 --> 00:34:55,691
But between the cross breaking
and the fire the snow
751
00:34:55,726 --> 00:34:58,388
fucking
I'm starting to wonder man
752
00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:03,728
[door clattering]
753
00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,703
- All right
I'll see you later
754
00:35:06,737 --> 00:35:07,897
- Good luck
- Wish me luck
755
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,669
- Make it
- Yeah I'm gonna make it
756
00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:13,506
There ain't no question
about that
757
00:35:13,544 --> 00:35:16,012
- Are you boxed in?
758
00:35:17,982 --> 00:35:19,244
- We'll see you again
all right?
759
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,513
- Drive careful
- Love you!
760
00:35:21,552 --> 00:35:24,521
[somber piano music]
761
00:35:24,555 --> 00:35:27,649
* *
762
00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:31,184
- Oh boy
763
00:35:31,229 --> 00:35:34,323
I just hope he's happy
that's all
764
00:35:34,365 --> 00:35:37,391
Hope he's happy
765
00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:40,495
[sniffles]
766
00:35:40,538 --> 00:35:45,669
* *
767
00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:01,815
- So today is Bobby's birthday
768
00:36:01,859 --> 00:36:03,019
He loves carrot cake
769
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:06,655
He gets an annual carrot cake
every year
770
00:36:06,697 --> 00:36:08,858
There's no room to write
"Happy birthday Bobby"
771
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,027
without interfering
with the carrot symmetry
772
00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:13,696
so we're just gonna go with
a Pentagram
773
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:16,332
with maybe a 54 in the middle
774
00:36:16,374 --> 00:36:18,638
I guess uh
I get a little leeway
775
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,201
since I'm not a decorator
776
00:36:21,245 --> 00:36:23,543
- I think 54's not that old
- Huh?
777
00:36:23,581 --> 00:36:25,071
- 54's not that old
778
00:36:25,116 --> 00:36:26,378
- No I don't know is it?
779
00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:27,884
- I mean it's old
780
00:36:27,919 --> 00:36:28,977
- Get out of here!
[laughs]
781
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,749
- But it's not that old
782
00:36:30,788 --> 00:36:33,780
At first glance when people see
me and Bobby
783
00:36:33,824 --> 00:36:35,348
walking down the street
together
784
00:36:35,393 --> 00:36:37,861
they either think
A he's my father
785
00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:39,863
or B
he's my sugar daddy
786
00:36:39,897 --> 00:36:42,365
or you know a pimp
or something like that
787
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,130
But he's an endearing person
788
00:36:45,169 --> 00:36:48,502
and I'm certainly not in it
for the money
789
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:50,234
because he has none
790
00:36:50,274 --> 00:36:53,835
And I just==
I enjoy his company
791
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:57,473
I feel very kindred to him
regardless of the age gap
792
00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:59,676
My cousin and I had a theory
that he and his mother
793
00:36:59,717 --> 00:37:01,116
were the same person
794
00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:03,552
like an Anthony Perkins
like Psycho sort of thing
795
00:37:03,588 --> 00:37:05,453
You're gonna have us like
locked in a closet
796
00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:09,289
with your mother's corpse
797
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,261
I don't find that I have
anything in common
798
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:12,819
with guys my age
799
00:37:12,863 --> 00:37:15,423
I've always liked
since I was young
800
00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:18,196
in terms of looks
801
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,227
guys that have you know
goofy features
802
00:37:20,271 --> 00:37:21,295
like caricature features
803
00:37:21,339 --> 00:37:24,433
and I just have an odd taste
in men
804
00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:25,499
That's just the way it is
805
00:37:25,543 --> 00:37:27,033
- All right Bobby!
806
00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:28,807
- Who bought the candles?
807
00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:30,905
It has a freaking pentagram
on it
808
00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:32,973
No wait hold on==
809
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:34,780
The change is pretty massive
810
00:37:34,819 --> 00:37:39,586
To my understanding he was
smoking toxic amounts of crack
811
00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:41,114
- Make a wish
812
00:37:41,158 --> 00:37:43,285
- He went from that to this
813
00:37:43,327 --> 00:37:46,421
and has smoked no crack
since he moved to Philly
814
00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:47,795
- Whoo!
815
00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:55,602
- He's been through
so much more life than me
816
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,335
But it's the kind of
like life
817
00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,570
where you don't really grow
as a person
818
00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:02,738
He's kind of remained
frozen in time a little bit
819
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:04,771
and I kind of like that
about him
820
00:38:04,815 --> 00:38:06,783
I mean in his heart too
821
00:38:06,817 --> 00:38:08,648
he'll always be young
I think
822
00:38:08,686 --> 00:38:10,347
You look good in those pants
823
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:11,980
He looks pretty
824
00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:14,958
- Long as she can say that
that's okay by me baby
825
00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:16,721
I'm doing all right then
826
00:38:16,761 --> 00:38:17,921
Now I'm still here
827
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,430
If I can have someone
as beautiful as this
828
00:38:20,464 --> 00:38:22,227
say I'm pretty
829
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:25,827
something's happening here
830
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:26,859
- # Loving you #
831
00:38:26,904 --> 00:38:29,600
* *
832
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,939
# Well, it takes away
the blues #
833
00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:35,537
- And now it's so crazy
watching you know him
834
00:38:35,579 --> 00:38:38,139
in this short amount of time
835
00:38:38,182 --> 00:38:41,242
grow up
and make up for the time
836
00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:44,345
where his growth was like
really stunted
837
00:38:44,388 --> 00:38:47,880
Stuff where he would have
no clue what to do before
838
00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:51,258
like his debit card
checking account
839
00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:52,785
the social security card
840
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,822
he doesn't have a problem
with that stuff anymore
841
00:38:55,866 --> 00:38:57,891
He's gotten the hang of it
842
00:38:57,935 --> 00:39:00,699
- I don't miss him
I really don't
843
00:39:00,738 --> 00:39:03,673
There's a nice sense of peace
now
844
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:04,936
- I do a great deal
845
00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:06,670
- He misses him terribly
846
00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:08,645
- A great deal
847
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,911
The fact that he is using
whatever strength he has left
848
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:17,580
to preserve whatever
self-confidence he has
849
00:39:17,621 --> 00:39:21,079
is something
that I am proud of
850
00:39:21,125 --> 00:39:26,529
He commented on the phone for
the first time today actually
851
00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:28,896
"I love you Dad"
852
00:39:28,933 --> 00:39:31,629
- It's amazing
the transformation in this guy
853
00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:33,660
He looks good
He sounds good
854
00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:36,696
It's the person I thought
or hoped I'd be dealing with
855
00:39:36,741 --> 00:39:39,209
from the get-go
856
00:39:39,243 --> 00:39:41,370
He's been jamming with
other musicians
857
00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:42,970
He just seems kind of
more focused
858
00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:45,675
and definitely more in touch
with music lately
859
00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:47,240
- The Hallie situation
860
00:39:47,284 --> 00:39:49,149
I hate to talk so much
about it
861
00:39:49,186 --> 00:39:54,419
but it is really that integral
in my life
862
00:39:54,458 --> 00:39:57,154
Hallie Liebling
863
00:39:57,194 --> 00:40:01,528
I got mad love
for Hallie Liebling
864
00:40:01,565 --> 00:40:04,363
Yep
She's gonna be my Liebling
865
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,199
She's my little Liebling
866
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:08,705
* *
867
00:40:15,846 --> 00:40:18,110
- We're about three hours and
45 minutes from Los Angeles
868
00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,242
Finally going to meet
the infamous Geof O'Keefe
869
00:40:20,284 --> 00:40:21,478
after talking to him for==
870
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,716
gosh I don't know
7 1/2 years now?
871
00:40:24,755 --> 00:40:25,813
When you're in a record store
872
00:40:25,856 --> 00:40:27,824
and you pick up that record
man
873
00:40:27,858 --> 00:40:29,621
you just almost don't know
what you're in for
874
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:31,855
Not only is it a journey
of the mind
875
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:34,694
but sometimes
it's a real exodus man
876
00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:38,591
I fell in love with this band
877
00:40:38,636 --> 00:40:41,935
and now I feel like I'm kind of
becoming part of the story
878
00:40:41,972 --> 00:40:43,337
It's a friggin' honor
879
00:40:43,374 --> 00:40:45,342
I wouldn't trade it
for anything in the world
880
00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:48,174
Bobby makes my fucking hair
fall out
881
00:40:48,212 --> 00:40:50,112
I'm telling you dude
882
00:40:50,147 --> 00:40:52,672
But at the end of the day it's
gonna be worth it you know?
883
00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:54,183
It really is
884
00:40:54,218 --> 00:40:55,412
Fucking psyched
885
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:57,318
People are gonna be able to dig
a new record man
886
00:40:57,354 --> 00:40:59,151
That's kick-ass enough for me
887
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:00,782
Geof is such an important part
888
00:41:00,825 --> 00:41:02,520
of the formation
of this awesome band
889
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,461
I'm hoping we really get Geof
excited about it as well
890
00:41:05,496 --> 00:41:09,660
and he's willing to
you know deal with Bobby
891
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:10,962
and forget about the past
892
00:41:11,001 --> 00:41:13,196
or deal with some of the
bullshit for the greater good
893
00:41:13,237 --> 00:41:15,671
which is gonna be an awesome
new Pentagram record
894
00:41:15,706 --> 00:41:17,640
from the==with the original
members you know?
895
00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:18,801
And new members too
896
00:41:18,843 --> 00:41:21,812
[heavy metal music]
897
00:41:21,846 --> 00:41:29,844
* *
898
00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:44,299
* *
899
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:45,734
- "Pentagram has not only
developed
900
00:41:45,769 --> 00:41:47,930
"a small but faithful following
in the Washington area
901
00:41:47,972 --> 00:41:50,270
but major record companies
have also taken an interest"
902
00:41:50,307 --> 00:41:52,502
Well
[laughs]
903
00:41:52,543 --> 00:41:55,910
Think it was a bar of soap from
Ramada Inn New York City
904
00:41:55,946 --> 00:41:58,540
when we did that
Columbia Records session
905
00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:00,174
So I'm guessing
906
00:42:00,217 --> 00:42:01,445
- Yeah it smells like failure
907
00:42:01,485 --> 00:42:04,545
- [laughs]
Oh man
908
00:42:04,588 --> 00:42:06,317
Bobby and my special project
909
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:09,451
The Douche Bags
by The Douche Bags
910
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:11,222
- "A friend told me he heard
from a connection
911
00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:14,390
"that Bobby left and Pentagram
now has a female singer
912
00:42:14,431 --> 00:42:16,558
"If this is true
I'm doomed
913
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,500
"It seems unlikely
but anything's possible
914
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:19,969
Christ I got to know"
915
00:42:20,004 --> 00:42:21,528
- "These two talented musicians
make up
916
00:42:21,572 --> 00:42:23,938
"one of the most successful
and popular bands today
917
00:42:23,974 --> 00:42:25,100
"Between the two of them
918
00:42:25,142 --> 00:42:26,700
"they play a wide range
of instruments:
919
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:29,235
bass lead guitar drums
female organ and leslies"
920
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,440
- [laughs]
921
00:42:30,481 --> 00:42:32,142
"We'd like to wreak metal havoc
in Britain
922
00:42:32,182 --> 00:42:33,308
"The only problem so far is
923
00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:35,750
we can't get out
of Washington"
924
00:42:35,786 --> 00:42:37,811
- "Pentagram closed the show
with a nightcap
925
00:42:37,855 --> 00:42:39,846
"Any finesse got crushed
and pushed aside
926
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:42,620
by a boring tidal wave
of sound"
927
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:44,457
[laughter]
928
00:42:44,495 --> 00:42:47,362
Well this just shows
where things had ended
929
00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:48,888
December '7 6
930
00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:50,332
"Singer wanted
931
00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:51,493
"Former members of Pentagram
932
00:42:51,535 --> 00:42:53,662
"require a singer
of professional caliber
933
00:42:53,704 --> 00:42:56,070
"in the David Coverdale/
Paul Rodgers mold
934
00:42:56,106 --> 00:42:59,075
We do not want a singer
with an ego problem"
935
00:43:02,046 --> 00:43:06,506
I met Bobby Liebling
in probably 1 967 '68
936
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:08,745
I noticed that he was carrying
record albums with him
937
00:43:08,786 --> 00:43:10,378
a lot of times
on the school bus
938
00:43:10,421 --> 00:43:14,653
and I was just starting
to get into cool music
939
00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:17,525
He was playing in a band at the
time called Shades of Darkness
940
00:43:17,561 --> 00:43:19,995
He was doing stuff that I was
only dreaming about==
941
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:24,467
playing in bands and going out
with girls and all this stuff
942
00:43:24,501 --> 00:43:28,597
So I really kind of idolized
this guy
943
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,766
Coming out of the psychedelic
hippie '60s
944
00:43:30,808 --> 00:43:32,036
and going into the '70s
945
00:43:32,076 --> 00:43:34,738
it was really a sense
of artistic freedom
946
00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:35,938
like there were no boundaries
947
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:37,140
We could do what we wanted
948
00:43:37,181 --> 00:43:40,617
wanting to make music
and make movies
949
00:43:40,651 --> 00:43:42,710
We weren't conscious of being
in any type
950
00:43:42,753 --> 00:43:45,017
of situation
or artistic environment
951
00:43:45,055 --> 00:43:47,546
We just knew we wanted to do
what we wanted to do
952
00:43:47,591 --> 00:43:51,618
* *
953
00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:53,425
I have really good memories
of Bobby
954
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:56,490
from a certain period of time
to a certain period of time
955
00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:58,125
And then bad things started
to happen
956
00:43:58,168 --> 00:44:00,136
and there was a few years
of that
957
00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:01,467
and eventually
I just decided
958
00:44:01,505 --> 00:44:02,802
"I don't want any part
of this"
959
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,808
There was just
too much negativity to==
960
00:44:04,842 --> 00:44:08,073
outweighing the positive
you know?
961
00:44:08,112 --> 00:44:10,979
Things got so bad
with the relationship
962
00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:14,382
between our managers
Skip and Tom
963
00:44:14,418 --> 00:44:16,409
And the band wanted to know
what was going on
964
00:44:16,453 --> 00:44:17,943
because they were still
our managers
965
00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:19,979
so Skip said
"Well you can interview me
966
00:44:20,024 --> 00:44:21,889
"but just you know
write down the questions
967
00:44:21,925 --> 00:44:23,517
"and come out
with your tape recorder
968
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,791
and I'll record the answers
onto a tape recorder"
969
00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:28,354
- One, two, three, four
970
00:44:28,399 --> 00:44:30,264
- Skip basically didn't want
to be around Bobby
971
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,131
So we had to conduct
our band interview
972
00:44:32,169 --> 00:44:34,262
with our own manager by tape
973
00:44:34,304 --> 00:44:36,465
- How do you expect to promote
the single wholeheartedly
974
00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:39,567
when you won't even meet with
the band you're producing?
975
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:40,975
Skip?
976
00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:42,842
- First of all, I don't expect
to promote
977
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,438
- Bobby's very driven
with what==
978
00:44:44,481 --> 00:44:47,746
and very passionate about
his music and that's good
979
00:44:47,785 --> 00:44:49,912
But I have a feeling that
over the years
980
00:44:49,953 --> 00:44:53,684
that's been you know==
one of Bobby's main problems is
981
00:44:53,724 --> 00:44:55,157
the freedom of Bobby
doing nothing
982
00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:57,353
except sex drugs
rock and roll
983
00:44:57,394 --> 00:45:01,057
I mean that is it
to a tee
984
00:45:01,098 --> 00:45:02,395
And I realize
some people say
985
00:45:02,433 --> 00:45:04,731
from an artistic standpoint
"Bravo" you know?
986
00:45:04,768 --> 00:45:06,668
"You've got your vision
You're sticking to it"
987
00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,194
On the other hand
you know
988
00:45:08,238 --> 00:45:10,570
everyone that's been with you
has walked away over the years
989
00:45:10,607 --> 00:45:11,972
or fled in terror
990
00:45:12,009 --> 00:45:14,375
because they realize you're not
ever gonna compromise
991
00:45:14,411 --> 00:45:17,574
or you know cooperate
992
00:45:17,614 --> 00:45:21,050
I haven't talked to Bobby
in over 20 years
993
00:45:21,085 --> 00:45:23,315
It would be really cool
to go into the studio with Bobby
994
00:45:23,353 --> 00:45:25,344
and do a real album
for the first time
995
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:27,619
rerecord some old stuff
write some new stuff
996
00:45:27,658 --> 00:45:28,886
'Cause I'm proud of that stuff
997
00:45:28,926 --> 00:45:30,086
And if 30 years later
998
00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:31,788
people are finally discovering
that music
999
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:34,457
and you know posting things
online about
1000
00:45:34,498 --> 00:45:35,624
"Oh this band is so amazing
1001
00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:37,429
This drummer kicks ass"
and stuff like that
1002
00:45:37,468 --> 00:45:39,493
When I read stuff like that
it's like "Wow really?
1003
00:45:39,536 --> 00:45:41,060
Thank you"
1004
00:45:41,105 --> 00:45:43,835
On the other hand everyone who
tries to do this with Bobby
1005
00:45:43,874 --> 00:45:45,466
winds up getting crapped on
1006
00:45:45,509 --> 00:45:48,876
It winds up being a disaster
of mega proportions
1007
00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:52,905
because Bobby will do something
to screw it up
1008
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:55,350
I don't want to go do something
that's a high publicity thing
1009
00:45:55,385 --> 00:45:58,980
and have it fall apart
and be a laughingstock
1010
00:45:59,022 --> 00:46:01,013
I don't want to do it
1011
00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:10,667
- She hasn't called me
1012
00:46:10,701 --> 00:46:14,159
You know
got 1 7 minutes left
1013
00:46:14,204 --> 00:46:16,297
I can't==
my phone's gonna run out
1014
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:19,332
I got
1015
00:46:19,376 --> 00:46:20,741
- Your call cannot be
completed
1016
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:24,043
- My call can't be completed
as dialed
1017
00:46:24,081 --> 00:46:27,414
Come on please answer
honey
1018
00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:31,520
The thing that people
don't realize
1019
00:46:31,555 --> 00:46:35,321
is that Mr Evil==
whoo!
1020
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:39,523
Pentagram dih-dih-dih-dih
yadda yadda yadda
1021
00:46:39,563 --> 00:46:41,929
Man under this shell
1022
00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:44,331
and this put-on
1023
00:46:44,368 --> 00:46:46,302
all I want to do is eat
1024
00:46:46,336 --> 00:46:49,169
take care of my loving
other half
1025
00:46:49,206 --> 00:46:51,333
in a bed that's comfortable
1026
00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:53,172
next to a warm soul
1027
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:55,770
that I can give my soul to
1028
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,509
because I'm not a bad guy
1029
00:46:58,549 --> 00:47:01,347
I'm really not a bad guy
underneath
1030
00:47:01,385 --> 00:47:06,186
I don't mean to do the things
I do wrong
1031
00:47:06,223 --> 00:47:08,191
You know I pray every night
to God
1032
00:47:08,225 --> 00:47:11,023
to forgive me for the things
I've done wrong
1033
00:47:13,197 --> 00:47:15,961
Hallie why are you
calling me an asshole
1034
00:47:15,999 --> 00:47:18,297
and saying that I hurt you?
1035
00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:20,929
- Because you did
1036
00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:22,233
- All I called to==
1037
00:47:22,272 --> 00:47:24,240
Listen all I said==
1038
00:47:24,274 --> 00:47:26,367
Can I say anything?
1039
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:28,970
Can I say anything ever?
1040
00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:30,604
- It was just overkill
1041
00:47:30,647 --> 00:47:32,308
Hallie Hallie
Hallie Hallie
1042
00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:34,283
And you know it's great to be
in a relationship
1043
00:47:34,318 --> 00:47:36,718
but you just need
a fucking break
1044
00:47:36,753 --> 00:47:38,414
He was talking about marriage
1045
00:47:38,455 --> 00:47:39,513
I mean from the get-go
1046
00:47:39,556 --> 00:47:40,955
the first thing Bobby told me
was
1047
00:47:40,991 --> 00:47:43,016
"I have a new girlfriend
and I'm gonna marry her"
1048
00:47:43,060 --> 00:47:45,085
And it's just all these things
like compounded
1049
00:47:45,128 --> 00:47:47,688
on this poor girl
and she's just bound to break
1050
00:47:47,731 --> 00:47:48,755
- Yeah well not dealing==
1051
00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:52,064
You said it
I didn't
1052
00:47:52,102 --> 00:47:53,865
She hung up on me again
1053
00:47:53,904 --> 00:47:56,964
[somber music]
1054
00:47:57,007 --> 00:47:59,976
It's over
There's nothing to live for
1055
00:48:00,010 --> 00:48:03,241
[phone line trilling]
1056
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:22,425
- I can come over
and can listen to music dude
1057
00:48:22,466 --> 00:48:25,026
Music's a powerful drug
1058
00:48:26,436 --> 00:48:28,563
- What do you say?
1059
00:48:32,442 --> 00:48:33,875
- What Hallie said?
1060
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:35,071
- Yeah
1061
00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:42,108
- No candy-coating
1062
00:48:42,152 --> 00:48:45,144
This isn't easy for me dude
1063
00:48:45,188 --> 00:48:48,351
And I don't==but I'll tell ya
I mean
1064
00:48:48,392 --> 00:48:50,553
Last night he didn't want
to see me
1065
00:48:50,594 --> 00:48:51,925
Today
he didn't want to see me
1066
00:48:51,962 --> 00:48:53,987
He doesn't want to see anybody
1067
00:48:54,031 --> 00:48:55,521
He's just really affected
1068
00:48:55,565 --> 00:48:56,862
He's fucking crushed
1069
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:09,203
- Now that this Hallie thing's
coming down man
1070
00:49:09,246 --> 00:49:12,909
I could just sense Bobby
just trying to find
1071
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:14,941
any excuse to fucking relapse
1072
00:49:14,985 --> 00:49:16,384
and go back and start
smoking crack
1073
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:17,785
I can start feeling it happen
1074
00:49:17,821 --> 00:49:18,913
Bobby listen to me
1075
00:49:18,956 --> 00:49:21,186
It seemed like last time
we hung out
1076
00:49:21,224 --> 00:49:25,126
I just got a feeling that you
might have smoked crack
1077
00:49:25,162 --> 00:49:26,959
Did you smoke crack
since you've been here?
1078
00:49:26,997 --> 00:49:28,055
- No
1079
00:49:50,387 --> 00:49:52,753
- Philip's playing here in a
couple weeks with his band Down
1080
00:49:52,789 --> 00:49:54,586
He's got to be clean for that
1081
00:49:54,624 --> 00:49:56,524
Their hesitation
the business side of it
1082
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,553
is giving money to
a drug addict man you know?
1083
00:50:00,597 --> 00:50:03,998
And he's got
to be fucking clean
1084
00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:06,298
to back up me telling them
that he's clean
1085
00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:08,065
and is gonna be able to do it
you know?
1086
00:50:08,105 --> 00:50:10,869
If he shows up fucked up
it's gonna fuck it up
1087
00:50:10,907 --> 00:50:13,876
[bluesy rock music]
1088
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:21,908
* *
1089
00:50:26,156 --> 00:50:33,392
* *
1090
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:38,458
- Being a person that has dealt
with his own demons and won
1091
00:50:38,502 --> 00:50:39,833
- That's the truth
1092
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:42,566
- I just hope that one day
1093
00:50:42,606 --> 00:50:45,268
maybe he can do the same thing
you know?
1094
00:50:45,308 --> 00:50:47,242
It would be a beautiful thing
man
1095
00:50:51,481 --> 00:50:52,812
- Appreciate that
1096
00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:54,009
From the heart
1097
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:58,078
- Wow
1098
00:50:58,121 --> 00:50:59,748
Can I eat anything I want?
1099
00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:01,121
Can I taste a piece
of pineapple?
1100
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:04,286
- You sure?
- Get some
1101
00:51:04,327 --> 00:51:05,419
- Mmm
1102
00:51:05,462 --> 00:51:08,431
Well they got it all
1103
00:51:08,465 --> 00:51:10,126
The way it's supposed to be
1104
00:51:10,167 --> 00:51:12,761
- Man I got like so many
Pentagram t-shirts
1105
00:51:12,803 --> 00:51:15,067
It's an honor having you here
man
1106
00:51:15,105 --> 00:51:18,541
There's just so much respect
1107
00:51:18,575 --> 00:51:21,237
Personally I'm sick of hearing
people say it's too late
1108
00:51:21,278 --> 00:51:22,973
- Nah
- It's never too late
1109
00:51:23,013 --> 00:51:24,275
- Never never never
1110
00:51:24,314 --> 00:51:26,043
- You know there's a lot
of people you know
1111
00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:27,311
"Dude there's no way
he can come back"
1112
00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:28,783
- How many times have we been
written off?
1113
00:51:28,819 --> 00:51:29,843
- No I know man
1114
00:51:34,291 --> 00:51:38,990
- If we're gonna get straight
to the bone and shit
1115
00:51:39,029 --> 00:51:41,930
There is this wave
that I'm sure you're aware of==
1116
00:51:41,965 --> 00:51:45,833
young musicians that are
discovering Pentagram
1117
00:51:45,869 --> 00:51:47,166
That's a gift my brother
1118
00:51:47,204 --> 00:51:48,262
- Sure it is
1119
00:51:48,305 --> 00:51:49,772
- It's a fucking gift
1120
00:51:49,806 --> 00:51:50,830
- Sure it is
1121
00:51:50,874 --> 00:51:53,274
- And it's enough of a gift
1122
00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:57,440
for you to give yourself
a fucking break man
1123
00:51:57,481 --> 00:51:58,971
You've got your fucking health
1124
00:51:59,015 --> 00:52:00,482
- I'm giving myself a break
1125
00:52:00,517 --> 00:52:04,510
I kicked $300 of rock
six Xanax bars
1126
00:52:04,554 --> 00:52:07,079
1 05 milligrams of meth
1127
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:11,151
and a 1 0-pack of dope==
cold turkey
1128
00:52:11,194 --> 00:52:13,219
- How's that throat feel?
1129
00:52:13,263 --> 00:52:14,355
- Fine
1130
00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:15,455
- You can sing
1131
00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:17,091
- Oh I can sing my ass off
1132
00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:18,294
- Really?
Are you ready?
1133
00:52:18,335 --> 00:52:20,030
- Yeah well you're the man
with the money
1134
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:23,301
- Well you're the man with
the fucking record
1135
00:52:23,340 --> 00:52:25,103
that needs to kick fucking ass
too
1136
00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:29,306
- Believe me if you've heard
all my records
1137
00:52:29,346 --> 00:52:32,645
I ain't done no record in my
opinion that hadn't kicked ass
1138
00:52:32,682 --> 00:52:33,876
- You know what?
1139
00:52:33,917 --> 00:52:37,512
Robert I'd be proud
to fucking do this
1140
00:52:37,554 --> 00:52:39,385
I really would man
1141
00:52:39,422 --> 00:52:40,582
- We're coming now Phil
1142
00:52:40,624 --> 00:52:42,091
- Stand up
1143
00:52:42,125 --> 00:52:43,285
- They're on stage
1144
00:52:43,326 --> 00:52:44,816
- All right man
- I love you baby
1145
00:52:44,861 --> 00:52:45,953
- Me too buddy
1146
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:47,395
- It's great great to meet you
man
1147
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:49,057
- Yep I hope we can do
something brother
1148
00:52:49,099 --> 00:52:50,828
- Philip!
We got to go!
1149
00:52:50,867 --> 00:52:52,027
- Let's go brother
1150
00:52:52,068 --> 00:52:54,298
- Come on!
1151
00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:55,736
We're on the way
1152
00:52:55,772 --> 00:52:56,796
Have a good show bro
1153
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,106
[cheers and applause]
1154
00:53:04,047 --> 00:53:08,575
[somber music]
1155
00:53:08,618 --> 00:53:10,415
- You know I take him up
to meet Phil Anselmo
1156
00:53:10,453 --> 00:53:12,944
and everything's pretty much
all set up
1157
00:53:12,989 --> 00:53:15,480
On the fucking way home
1158
00:53:15,525 --> 00:53:17,117
instead of focusing
on the positive
1159
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,186
he's still focusing on Hallie
1160
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:24,132
So as soon as we drop him off
he literally got out of the car
1161
00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:27,193
thanked me all of a sudden
his eyes start to tear up
1162
00:53:27,237 --> 00:53:28,636
and he says he doesn't want
to go home
1163
00:53:28,672 --> 00:53:30,196
to an empty apartment
1164
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,232
He's just
he's at the end
1165
00:53:33,276 --> 00:53:34,402
Again
1166
00:53:42,819 --> 00:53:45,982
- I'm in the shower!
Five minutes!
1167
00:53:46,022 --> 00:53:47,182
- Can we come in?
1168
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:48,589
- Uh yeah you can come in
1169
00:53:48,625 --> 00:53:49,853
You can step over this shit
1170
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,758
Just stay out of here
1171
00:53:51,795 --> 00:53:53,786
I'm on record
at Jefferson Hospital
1172
00:53:53,830 --> 00:53:56,458
of being epidemically covered
in scabies
1173
00:53:56,499 --> 00:53:58,262
so is everything in
the whole goddamn place
1174
00:53:58,301 --> 00:54:00,166
You think I'm lying?
I can prove every bit of it
1175
00:54:00,203 --> 00:54:01,261
- Well let's talk
1176
00:54:01,304 --> 00:54:02,498
You don't have to prove it
to me
1177
00:54:02,539 --> 00:54:03,597
Just please get ready==
1178
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,039
- No I have to prove it
to everybody
1179
00:54:05,075 --> 00:54:07,043
'cause it's cocaine cocaine
cocaine cocaine!
1180
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:09,671
Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!
1181
00:54:09,713 --> 00:54:11,010
- [sighs]
1182
00:54:11,047 --> 00:54:13,311
The only thing I see here
is a fucking syringe
1183
00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:14,874
- Yeah there is a syringe
1184
00:54:14,918 --> 00:54:18,115
There's a syringe crack pipes
all kinds of shit around here
1185
00:54:18,154 --> 00:54:19,280
I quit
1186
00:54:19,322 --> 00:54:22,189
A mega dose of methadone
1187
00:54:22,225 --> 00:54:26,821
Mega heroin
piggybacking it
1188
00:54:26,863 --> 00:54:30,355
Cocaine 75% or more
1189
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,894
dropped in the course
of less than a month okay?
1190
00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:37,406
- I give you huge credit
for that
1191
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,466
but there's still a 25% that's
keeping you from making music
1192
00:54:40,510 --> 00:54:41,772
- No it's not
1193
00:54:41,811 --> 00:54:43,836
- And keeping you from making
real friends that care
1194
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,142
- Look I gave up 99 out of 1 00
1195
00:54:45,181 --> 00:54:47,513
I'm not Superman
What do you want me to do?
1196
00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:50,610
Conquer the world overnight?
1197
00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:54,613
You're asking too much of me
now
1198
00:54:54,658 --> 00:54:56,216
I'm on the verge
of a nervous breakdown
1199
00:54:56,259 --> 00:54:59,558
over all this drug shit
1200
00:54:59,596 --> 00:55:00,790
- You have so much talent
1201
00:55:00,830 --> 00:55:02,388
and you're smoking crack
on your couch
1202
00:55:02,432 --> 00:55:03,592
It's heartbreaking
1203
00:55:03,633 --> 00:55:06,261
- How much life do you think
I have left?
1204
00:55:10,173 --> 00:55:13,142
I think the damage is done
1205
00:55:13,176 --> 00:55:15,940
Far and above
1206
00:55:15,979 --> 00:55:16,968
[scoffs]
1207
00:55:22,185 --> 00:55:28,488
* *
1208
00:55:29,492 --> 00:55:30,516
- New message
1209
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,652
[phone beeps]
1210
00:55:31,695 --> 00:55:33,094
- Hi, Demian
It's Diane
1211
00:55:33,129 --> 00:55:36,223
I haven't heard from Bobby
since Friday
1212
00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:39,360
Truthfully, I don't think
he's gonna last much longer
1213
00:55:39,402 --> 00:55:40,926
I just have a feeling
1214
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:45,031
Either he's gonna overdose
or do something stupid
1215
00:55:45,075 --> 00:55:49,637
And he's hung up on that
Hallie thing like crazy, so
1216
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,307
I can't kill myself anymore
over it,
1217
00:55:52,349 --> 00:55:55,876
and what will be, will be
1218
00:55:55,919 --> 00:55:56,886
- New message
1219
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,217
[phone beeps]
1220
00:55:58,254 --> 00:56:00,119
- Hi, Demian
It's Diane
1221
00:56:00,156 --> 00:56:02,090
We still haven't heard
from Bobby,
1222
00:56:02,125 --> 00:56:06,186
and now we're really
extremely concerned
1223
00:56:06,229 --> 00:56:07,457
Please call me
1224
00:56:07,497 --> 00:56:08,657
[clears throat]
Thank you
1225
00:56:08,698 --> 00:56:10,529
Bye-bye
1226
00:56:10,567 --> 00:56:12,125
* *
1227
00:56:12,168 --> 00:56:13,135
- New message
1228
00:56:13,169 --> 00:56:14,431
[phone beeps]
1229
00:56:14,471 --> 00:56:16,405
- I found out where Bobby is
1230
00:56:16,439 --> 00:56:21,502
It's called CFCF,
under the prison system
1231
00:56:21,544 --> 00:56:24,411
They took him there
I don't know where it is
1232
00:56:24,447 --> 00:56:26,108
I don't know how he is
1233
00:56:26,149 --> 00:56:29,448
I'm sure he's suffering,
and we don't know what to do
1234
00:56:29,486 --> 00:56:32,387
So when you get a chance,
you call
1235
00:56:32,422 --> 00:56:33,912
Bye-bye
1236
00:56:33,957 --> 00:56:38,053
* *
1237
00:56:38,094 --> 00:56:39,083
[music ends]
1238
00:56:42,132 --> 00:56:46,569
- Philadelphia Prison Systems
1239
00:56:46,603 --> 00:56:48,366
"Curran-Fromhold
Correctional Facility
1240
00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:51,101
Philadelphia Pennsylvania"
1241
00:56:51,141 --> 00:56:53,609
Bobby's got a restraining order
on him
1242
00:56:53,643 --> 00:56:59,548
which clearly says you cannot
fucking call Hallie
1243
00:56:59,582 --> 00:57:01,880
He had fucking called Hallie
1244
00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:03,442
Hallie picked up the phone
and said
1245
00:57:03,486 --> 00:57:04,976
"That's it
Now you're going to jail"
1246
00:57:05,021 --> 00:57:06,579
Click
1247
00:57:06,623 --> 00:57:08,056
I mean this is a huge
reality check
1248
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:11,754
What's harder than jail?
1249
00:57:11,795 --> 00:57:15,356
What's the next step?
Death?
1250
00:57:15,398 --> 00:57:19,858
Who the fuck else is gonna
fucking do this for him?
1251
00:57:19,903 --> 00:57:21,029
I hate to sound like a dick==
1252
00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:22,128
I feel like I've just been==
1253
00:57:22,172 --> 00:57:23,639
I'm getting grizzled
and pricky
1254
00:57:23,673 --> 00:57:26,972
through this whole
fucking process
1255
00:57:27,010 --> 00:57:29,535
He's completely surrounded
by chaos that he creates
1256
00:57:29,579 --> 00:57:33,447
but it sucks everybody up in it
that's around him
1257
00:57:33,483 --> 00:57:36,680
And maybe
I said this already
1258
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:38,152
but this past two weeks
1259
00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:40,816
I was almost glad
that he was in jail==
1260
00:57:40,857 --> 00:57:42,051
just the fact that I know
1261
00:57:42,091 --> 00:57:43,581
he wasn't somewhere
hurting himself
1262
00:57:43,626 --> 00:57:45,253
and I could concentrate
on my life
1263
00:57:45,295 --> 00:57:46,694
and what I really needed
to get done
1264
00:57:46,729 --> 00:57:48,162
'Cause if I didn't get
this shit done
1265
00:57:48,198 --> 00:57:50,029
I can't do anything for him
1266
00:57:50,066 --> 00:57:52,500
So we'll see
1267
00:57:52,535 --> 00:57:54,935
See fucking work calls
right now
1268
00:57:57,273 --> 00:58:02,370
$260 of bail
$1 5 parking later
1269
00:58:02,412 --> 00:58:04,175
we're finally on our way
1270
00:58:04,214 --> 00:58:06,182
They told==
after bail went through
1271
00:58:06,216 --> 00:58:07,945
they told us we have
four to six hours
1272
00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:09,008
before he's released
1273
00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:10,383
so it's a total guessing game
1274
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:12,854
No one can give us any kind
of straight answers
1275
00:58:12,889 --> 00:58:14,151
So we kind of cut the wait
in half
1276
00:58:14,190 --> 00:58:15,487
We're headed there now
1277
00:58:15,525 --> 00:58:16,856
It's dark
1278
00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:20,659
I'm sure Bobby is freaking
to get out
1279
00:58:20,697 --> 00:58:22,790
You know the one thing
he talks about that he wants
1280
00:58:22,832 --> 00:58:27,997
I'm sure more than anything
is a bacon pizza
1281
00:58:28,037 --> 00:58:31,302
which is all he eats
by the way
1282
00:58:31,341 --> 00:58:33,639
Anything bad for his heart
Bobby Liebling will do it
1283
00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:34,665
[laughs]
1284
00:58:34,711 --> 00:58:36,975
Love drugs bacon
1285
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:39,709
His life
[laughing]
1286
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,715
What's going on now is
1287
00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:48,349
every time I fucking come
to get him out
1288
00:58:48,391 --> 00:58:50,188
there's some other thing
going on
1289
00:58:50,226 --> 00:58:51,818
They told me
an hour and a half
1290
00:58:51,861 --> 00:58:54,261
We just went and waited
somewhere for over an hour
1291
00:58:54,297 --> 00:58:56,231
We come back
1292
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:57,995
"Oh we've got no one
downstairs"
1293
00:58:58,034 --> 00:59:00,195
I'm like "Here's his name
He's been processed
1294
00:59:00,236 --> 00:59:03,262
We paid at 3:00 today"
1295
00:59:03,306 --> 00:59:04,671
"Well there's no one
downstairs
1296
00:59:04,707 --> 00:59:07,767
"I tell you what if he's
not out within 1 5 minutes
1297
00:59:07,810 --> 00:59:09,243
"he's gonna get out
on the next shift
1298
00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:11,839
which is uh
1 2:00"
1299
00:59:11,881 --> 00:59:14,111
So that probably means
the next shift starts at 1 2:00
1300
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:16,050
so who knows
when he's gonna get out
1301
00:59:16,085 --> 00:59:17,552
So we got to park
across the street
1302
00:59:17,587 --> 00:59:20,784
which is like Mister==
at Mister Chubby's
1303
00:59:20,823 --> 00:59:22,256
which is fitting
1304
00:59:22,292 --> 00:59:24,453
'cause they're treating us
like fucking boners
1305
00:59:24,494 --> 00:59:26,689
So now we got to wait
and just watch
1306
00:59:26,729 --> 00:59:28,287
We got to watch across
the street
1307
00:59:28,331 --> 00:59:29,696
which you can hardly see
1308
00:59:29,732 --> 00:59:33,099
and we're gonna wait for him
to walk out of the gate
1309
00:59:33,136 --> 00:59:36,299
We can't wait here all fucking
night in the goddamn car
1310
00:59:36,339 --> 00:59:38,466
I skipped a whole day of work
today to bail him out
1311
00:59:38,508 --> 00:59:39,634
He's still not out
1312
00:59:39,676 --> 00:59:42,440
and now it's fucking up
my next day
1313
00:59:42,478 --> 00:59:45,606
So I don't know what to do
1314
00:59:45,648 --> 00:59:48,208
You know if we decide to leave
and come back in the morning
1315
00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:50,981
that's when he's gonna be
out here stranded probably
1316
00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:53,614
Know what I mean?
1317
00:59:58,528 --> 00:59:59,927
People keep asking me
you know
1318
00:59:59,963 --> 01:00:02,261
"Dude why are you even
hanging in there?"
1319
01:00:02,298 --> 01:00:04,357
I've grown to love him
as a friend
1320
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,096
and I really believe in him
as a musician
1321
01:00:07,136 --> 01:00:08,501
I don't know
1322
01:00:08,538 --> 01:00:11,598
I'm really on the verge
of saying "Fuck it"
1323
01:00:11,641 --> 01:00:13,165
And just saying I tried
1324
01:00:13,209 --> 01:00:15,973
I really don't know
I keep going back and forth
1325
01:00:16,012 --> 01:00:17,274
But I keep feeling like
1326
01:00:17,313 --> 01:00:19,577
"Man don't fucking throw it all
away yet Pellet
1327
01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:24,383
because we're on the verge of
fucking something happening"
1328
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:28,447
[somber music]
1329
01:00:28,491 --> 01:00:30,789
Cold in there?
1330
01:00:30,827 --> 01:00:32,055
- Huh buddy?
1331
01:00:32,095 --> 01:00:33,323
That's my buddy
1332
01:00:33,363 --> 01:00:35,524
[laughs]
1333
01:00:35,565 --> 01:00:36,998
There's my buddy see?
1334
01:00:37,033 --> 01:00:38,193
[all talking at once]
1335
01:00:38,234 --> 01:00:40,202
Had to hook you up right away
1336
01:00:40,236 --> 01:00:42,363
[all talking at once]
1337
01:00:42,405 --> 01:00:43,895
- How you doing, man?
1338
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:45,908
- Uh doing like you know
1339
01:00:45,942 --> 01:00:46,909
- Is it all right?
1340
01:00:46,943 --> 01:00:49,605
- Here you go
"Help me"
1341
01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:53,013
I'm in prison again
1342
01:00:53,049 --> 01:00:59,818
* *
1343
01:00:59,856 --> 01:01:03,053
- Hey you want some waters?
1344
01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:04,753
It's good to see you out dude
1345
01:01:04,794 --> 01:01:06,227
- Jesus
1346
01:01:06,262 --> 01:01:09,595
- I'm nervous that you're out
I'll admit it
1347
01:01:09,632 --> 01:01:12,032
I didn't have to worry about you
in jail
1348
01:01:12,068 --> 01:01:13,626
I knew you weren't doing
something dumb
1349
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:15,831
- I knew that
I
1350
01:01:15,872 --> 01:01:19,273
Do you even know
how many hours
1351
01:01:19,308 --> 01:01:22,300
- Bobby obviously goes through
the same patterns
1352
01:01:22,345 --> 01:01:24,142
It's always he does good
for a couple weeks
1353
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:27,149
and then shit falls apart
1354
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:28,810
Bobby is just
1355
01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:30,318
Robert Liebling
1356
01:01:30,353 --> 01:01:34,687
He's a human
and he's got incredible demons
1357
01:01:34,724 --> 01:01:38,751
that he has to battle
every fucking day
1358
01:01:38,795 --> 01:01:43,596
That sounds cheesy but I think
Bobby really is just doing
1359
01:01:43,633 --> 01:01:46,534
all this stuff
'cause he just needs love
1360
01:01:46,569 --> 01:01:49,868
* *
1361
01:01:49,906 --> 01:01:51,737
- There's nothing here
1362
01:01:51,774 --> 01:01:56,905
I have nobody I can call
that can try to help
1363
01:01:56,946 --> 01:01:58,641
I ain't got no relatives
1364
01:01:58,681 --> 01:02:01,309
I ain't got no brother
or sister right?
1365
01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:04,183
You know
1366
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:06,120
Fuck it
I ain't got no kids
1367
01:02:06,155 --> 01:02:07,452
I can't deal with myself
1368
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:08,980
I'm too immature
1369
01:02:09,025 --> 01:02:12,927
I can't handle it the pressure
you know what I mean?
1370
01:02:12,962 --> 01:02:16,022
I have nothing here
1371
01:02:16,065 --> 01:02:17,999
I thought I had a life here
1372
01:02:18,034 --> 01:02:20,229
I don't got nothing anymore
1373
01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:52,329
- I just got the new issue
of Rolling Stone
1374
01:02:52,368 --> 01:02:54,199
I found the perfect girl
for Bobby
1375
01:02:54,237 --> 01:02:56,671
She's fucking==
has no grip on==
1376
01:02:56,706 --> 01:02:58,765
they're in the same
reality space
1377
01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,709
but she's got money
and she's young and blonde
1378
01:03:01,744 --> 01:03:02,904
Fucking Britney dude
1379
01:03:02,945 --> 01:03:04,503
I'm making some fucking calls
right now
1380
01:03:04,547 --> 01:03:05,775
[laughs]
1381
01:03:05,815 --> 01:03:09,512
Bobby'd like her right?
1382
01:03:09,552 --> 01:03:11,543
[sighs]
1383
01:03:11,587 --> 01:03:14,351
You want some tea?
1384
01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:18,290
I started to realize
that Bobby and I
1385
01:03:18,327 --> 01:03:20,227
might not have had
the same goals
1386
01:03:20,263 --> 01:03:22,231
My goal was for him to focus
on the music
1387
01:03:22,265 --> 01:03:23,493
All I could get him
to focus to
1388
01:03:23,533 --> 01:03:26,730
when he was up here
was Hallie
1389
01:03:26,769 --> 01:03:30,637
Damn man it smells like
an old man's dirty pants
1390
01:03:30,673 --> 01:03:32,163
[coughs]
1391
01:03:32,208 --> 01:03:35,177
He got out of jail
Stuff just wasn't rolling
1392
01:03:35,211 --> 01:03:37,304
Phil Anselmo you know
caught wind of it
1393
01:03:37,346 --> 01:03:39,280
Bobby was kind of a mess
and in jail
1394
01:03:39,315 --> 01:03:42,409
And that's you know
totally put on hold
1395
01:03:42,451 --> 01:03:45,477
Bobby moved back home
with his mom
1396
01:03:45,521 --> 01:03:48,422
He did you know
typical Bobby kind of stuff
1397
01:03:48,457 --> 01:03:49,549
- Basement?
1398
01:03:49,592 --> 01:03:52,083
- Living in the sub-basement
You know?
1399
01:03:52,128 --> 01:03:54,688
But one good thing
that came out of it is
1400
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:57,426
being back around
all that Maryland scene
1401
01:03:57,466 --> 01:04:00,367
there was people down there
who were just you know
1402
01:04:00,403 --> 01:04:01,870
willing to help him out
1403
01:04:01,904 --> 01:04:03,633
and got together
and got him psyched again
1404
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:04,799
about playing music
1405
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:08,038
[bass guitar melody]
1406
01:04:18,421 --> 01:04:20,048
I really think in a way
1407
01:04:20,089 --> 01:04:21,579
this is kind of
what he needed to do
1408
01:04:21,624 --> 01:04:25,424
He got a complete wake-up call
by going to jail
1409
01:04:25,461 --> 01:04:26,860
He got some love
1410
01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:28,295
As heartbroken as he is
1411
01:04:28,331 --> 01:04:31,095
I think he's got a little bit
of confidence from it
1412
01:04:31,133 --> 01:04:32,862
- Hey is this on?
1413
01:04:32,902 --> 01:04:34,392
Yes it is!
[echoes]
1414
01:04:34,437 --> 01:04:35,404
Okay
1415
01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:36,496
- Since he's had a full band
1416
01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:39,940
Bobby is just psyched
to play shows
1417
01:04:39,976 --> 01:04:42,706
We could definitely play DC
and probably do pretty well
1418
01:04:42,745 --> 01:04:45,976
But to make the biggest punch
to get the most out of press
1419
01:04:46,015 --> 01:04:48,779
and just to have
the biggest you know
1420
01:04:48,818 --> 01:04:52,754
appearance or profile
is gonna be New York City
1421
01:04:52,788 --> 01:04:55,757
[bluesy rock music]
1422
01:04:55,791 --> 01:04:59,420
* *
1423
01:04:59,462 --> 01:05:00,724
So we chose New York
1424
01:05:00,763 --> 01:05:03,755
They're at a top-notch venue
1425
01:05:03,799 --> 01:05:06,131
We demanded a lot of money
We're getting it
1426
01:05:06,168 --> 01:05:07,601
There's also again
a lot on the line
1427
01:05:07,637 --> 01:05:09,764
because in the contract
that I have to sign
1428
01:05:09,805 --> 01:05:12,035
it says if the band does not
show up for whatever reason
1429
01:05:12,074 --> 01:05:13,507
if stuff doesn't happen
1430
01:05:13,542 --> 01:05:15,806
it's my name on there
that I'm responsible for
1431
01:05:15,845 --> 01:05:17,642
So what I really need
Bobby to do
1432
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,116
is just focus again
on the music
1433
01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:24,119
- [muffled singing]
1434
01:05:24,153 --> 01:05:31,992
* *
1435
01:05:33,596 --> 01:05:38,533
I'm just very confused
right now
1436
01:05:38,567 --> 01:05:42,128
There's this angel
I just wanted to talk to
1437
01:05:42,171 --> 01:05:47,074
while I was still
hanging around mortal
1438
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:51,170
- Is that keeping you from
focusing on stuff or are you
1439
01:05:51,213 --> 01:05:53,443
- Ain't easy
1440
01:05:53,482 --> 01:05:57,213
Show must go on
1441
01:05:57,253 --> 01:06:01,155
But it ain't easy you know
1442
01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:08,357
Got to keep rocking
or I start crying
1443
01:06:08,397 --> 01:06:10,365
Sort of like that you know?
1444
01:06:10,399 --> 01:06:13,800
* *
1445
01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:19,168
Come on!
1446
01:06:22,611 --> 01:06:23,600
[music stops]
1447
01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:29,748
* *
1448
01:06:29,785 --> 01:06:32,015
- Every single thing you do
with Bobby Liebling has a risk
1449
01:06:32,054 --> 01:06:33,351
Whether it's a record
coming out
1450
01:06:33,389 --> 01:06:36,187
whether it's a show or whatever
it's a risk
1451
01:06:36,225 --> 01:06:38,352
I mean it definitely makes
shit exciting
1452
01:06:38,394 --> 01:06:40,692
But it's putting gray
in my beard you know?
1453
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:42,994
- It surprises me people who
go out and buy advance tickets
1454
01:06:43,032 --> 01:06:45,091
for Pentagram shows sometimes
1455
01:06:45,134 --> 01:06:46,863
You know it's like man
I would just wait
1456
01:06:46,902 --> 01:06:48,802
until the night of the show
and go to the door
1457
01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:51,204
because why sink your money
into something
1458
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,901
that you don't know is even
going to happen?
1459
01:06:52,942 --> 01:06:54,842
- It's kind of an uphill battle
right now
1460
01:06:54,877 --> 01:06:57,869
because the last couple shows
that Bobby played
1461
01:06:57,913 --> 01:06:59,107
are legendary==
1462
01:06:59,148 --> 01:07:01,082
a legendary mess
1463
01:07:02,551 --> 01:07:06,180
- Yeah there was this doom
metal festival or something
1464
01:07:06,222 --> 01:07:07,951
and this promoter guy goes
1465
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:10,891
"Man I need you to play
this gig and headline this gig"
1466
01:07:10,926 --> 01:07:12,291
You know "You got to do it"
1467
01:07:12,328 --> 01:07:15,525
And I asked Bobby I said
"You think we can do it?"
1468
01:07:15,564 --> 01:07:19,000
[cheers and applause]
1469
01:07:19,035 --> 01:07:22,527
I went to play the gig
and it was packed with people
1470
01:07:22,571 --> 01:07:24,664
It's getting later and later
and Bobby doesn't show
1471
01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:27,005
Then Bobby doesn't show
1472
01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:29,273
And the club owner comes up
and goes "Man you got to play
1473
01:07:29,311 --> 01:07:32,041
They're gonna tear my club up"
1474
01:07:32,081 --> 01:07:34,049
I said "There's==I don't have
a singer here"
1475
01:07:34,083 --> 01:07:35,983
Unfortunately our singer
won't show up tonight
1476
01:07:36,018 --> 01:07:37,815
'cause he's just too
fucking cool for all of us
1477
01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:40,151
so let's give it a big
"Fuck you you asshole!"
1478
01:07:40,189 --> 01:07:41,156
Right?
1479
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:42,157
- Fuck youl
1480
01:07:42,191 --> 01:07:43,317
- We're gonna play anyway
1481
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,657
And I gave the microphone
to the audience
1482
01:07:45,694 --> 01:07:47,719
I say "It's Pentagram
karaoke night
1483
01:07:47,763 --> 01:07:48,855
Here you go"
1484
01:07:48,898 --> 01:07:51,867
[heavy metal music]
1485
01:07:51,901 --> 01:07:56,600
* *
1486
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:01,508
Then Bobby showed up at the last
two measures of the last song
1487
01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:07,545
I kicked him in the leg
and then
1488
01:08:07,583 --> 01:08:10,143
and I think I had a cordless
guitar that night or something
1489
01:08:10,186 --> 01:08:12,120
but I was playing from
behind the speakers
1490
01:08:12,154 --> 01:08:16,022
where he couldn't rock out
with me you know?
1491
01:08:16,058 --> 01:08:17,286
That's how it happened
1492
01:08:17,326 --> 01:08:21,057
and that kind of broke us up
really
1493
01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:24,589
I said "Forget it man
I can't do that again
1494
01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:26,157
Not at my age"
1495
01:08:26,202 --> 01:08:29,296
You know==shit
I'm almost 20 now so
1496
01:08:29,338 --> 01:08:31,533
- Come on,
you fucking junkiel
1497
01:08:31,574 --> 01:08:32,734
- Playl
1498
01:08:32,775 --> 01:08:34,402
- Play a song
you fucking junkie!
1499
01:08:34,443 --> 01:08:36,308
You fucking dope-shooter!
1500
01:08:36,345 --> 01:08:38,279
You fucking rip-off!
1501
01:08:38,314 --> 01:08:41,477
Bullshit!
1502
01:08:41,517 --> 01:08:44,111
- He's got this Jim Morrison
thing going on now
1503
01:08:44,153 --> 01:08:47,850
or something where you just
never know what's gonna happen
1504
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:50,358
[heavy metal music]
1505
01:08:50,392 --> 01:08:51,654
The last
[laughs]
1506
01:08:51,694 --> 01:08:53,855
the last time he played
was The Black Cat show in DC
1507
01:08:53,896 --> 01:08:56,763
- Oh okay
The Black Cat incident?
1508
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:58,960
That's like the incident
at Roswell
1509
01:08:59,001 --> 01:09:01,697
2000 people
crammed in this place
1510
01:09:01,737 --> 01:09:04,171
and I'm going
"He's finally made it
1511
01:09:04,206 --> 01:09:08,336
Damn I'm glad I came tonight
You know this is great"
1512
01:09:08,377 --> 01:09:10,402
- People are fucking charged
1513
01:09:10,446 --> 01:09:12,573
You see the band
take the stage
1514
01:09:12,615 --> 01:09:15,743
Literally the guy next to me
is biting his lip
1515
01:09:15,784 --> 01:09:19,618
But there's something missing
Where's Bobby?
1516
01:09:19,655 --> 01:09:22,021
- Apparently he'd overdosed
1517
01:09:22,057 --> 01:09:24,890
And he fell asleep in my arms
like a baby
1518
01:09:24,927 --> 01:09:28,419
in the dressing room
1519
01:09:28,464 --> 01:09:30,659
Somebody knew
the rescue squad guy
1520
01:09:30,699 --> 01:09:32,166
They came and got him
1521
01:09:32,201 --> 01:09:34,032
and then they shot him up
with something
1522
01:09:34,069 --> 01:09:35,161
I don't know what
1523
01:09:35,204 --> 01:09:39,607
He goes "I'm ready to play"
1524
01:09:39,642 --> 01:09:42,770
- I see Bobby on the side
of the stage being propped up
1525
01:09:42,811 --> 01:09:45,803
Iooking like he's being
carried over to the stage
1526
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:55,851
- Grabs a mic
1527
01:09:55,891 --> 01:09:57,256
and that was it
1528
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:02,060
Stumbles backwards
falls on the drum riser
1529
01:10:02,097 --> 01:10:03,894
Crawls off the fucking stage
1530
01:10:03,933 --> 01:10:06,026
[audience catcalling]
1531
01:10:06,068 --> 01:10:09,731
- When he left it was in
the big freight elevator==
1532
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:12,070
in a straitjacket
1533
01:10:12,107 --> 01:10:13,335
And there's orange lights
1534
01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:15,639
and instead of the doors
coming together like this
1535
01:10:15,678 --> 01:10:18,738
they shut like a mouth
a giant metallic mouth
1536
01:10:18,781 --> 01:10:20,976
and he was gone
1537
01:10:21,016 --> 01:10:22,176
I thought "That's it
1538
01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:23,583
That's the last time
I'll see him"
1539
01:10:23,619 --> 01:10:26,611
Man I'll remember that
the rest of my life
1540
01:10:26,655 --> 01:10:29,624
[somber music]
1541
01:10:29,658 --> 01:10:32,627
* *
1542
01:10:32,661 --> 01:10:36,688
- You know I monitor
Bobby's Myspace page
1543
01:10:36,732 --> 01:10:40,793
Soon as you announce these
shows dude this thing lit up
1544
01:10:40,836 --> 01:10:42,303
It was just amazing
1545
01:10:42,338 --> 01:10:44,329
Every time I come on there's
all these friend requests
1546
01:10:44,373 --> 01:10:46,500
I had 1 2 pages
of friend requests
1547
01:10:46,542 --> 01:10:48,601
This might be fake
but Bobby would like it
1548
01:10:48,644 --> 01:10:50,612
[laughs]
1549
01:10:50,646 --> 01:10:52,079
One of the best things for me
dude==
1550
01:10:52,114 --> 01:10:53,581
this is a total triumph
1551
01:10:53,616 --> 01:10:55,584
This one kid says to me
1552
01:10:55,618 --> 01:10:57,279
"I only heard Pentagram
two months ago
1553
01:10:57,319 --> 01:10:58,946
"but I can't believe
the influence
1554
01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:00,717
it's had on my life already"
1555
01:11:00,756 --> 01:11:04,021
You know this is from like
this 1 9-year-old kid
1556
01:11:04,059 --> 01:11:06,050
so in the middle of nowhere
USA
1557
01:11:06,095 --> 01:11:09,223
who must have picked up a First
Daze Here record or whatever
1558
01:11:09,265 --> 01:11:11,096
and it's just changed his life
1559
01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:12,498
and it's the same thing
it did to me
1560
01:11:12,534 --> 01:11:15,935
and it's exactly what I want
to do with Bobby
1561
01:11:15,971 --> 01:11:17,165
Oh right here
1562
01:11:17,206 --> 01:11:18,639
"Love love love your music
1563
01:11:18,674 --> 01:11:20,232
"Saw the opening band
at a Witchcraft gig
1564
01:11:20,276 --> 01:11:21,368
"cover a tune of yours
1565
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:23,378
The place went crazy"
1566
01:11:23,412 --> 01:11:24,572
"Pentagram forever
1567
01:11:24,613 --> 01:11:26,171
"Many many thanks
for this great music
1568
01:11:26,215 --> 01:11:29,946
I love it and I need it
every day"
1569
01:11:29,985 --> 01:11:32,317
And again just people
just rooting for Bobby
1570
01:11:32,354 --> 01:11:34,584
Look at this
It's great
1571
01:11:34,623 --> 01:11:35,885
It goes on and on and on
1572
01:11:35,924 --> 01:11:37,221
Again I just get choked up
1573
01:11:37,259 --> 01:11:40,490
'cause I'm a freaking
sissy-hippie butt
1574
01:11:40,529 --> 01:11:41,860
I'm not a sissy but
1575
01:11:41,897 --> 01:11:42,886
[laughs]
1576
01:11:45,434 --> 01:11:46,958
At first I got involved
with Bobby
1577
01:11:47,002 --> 01:11:49,129
I wanted to have Bobby's music
heard
1578
01:11:49,171 --> 01:11:51,196
That was the main goal right?
1579
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,504
It was just pretty much
all about Bobby
1580
01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:58,502
Now at this point
it's become about me too
1581
01:11:58,547 --> 01:12:01,107
My whole life has been in music
1582
01:12:01,150 --> 01:12:05,416
My greatest accomplishment
to me personally is Pentagram
1583
01:12:05,454 --> 01:12:07,115
If I can't make it happen
1584
01:12:07,156 --> 01:12:09,351
then I've got to fucking wake up
and grow up
1585
01:12:09,391 --> 01:12:12,827
like my parents keep telling me
to do
1586
01:12:12,861 --> 01:12:14,488
Cut my hair
and get a goddamn job
1587
01:12:14,530 --> 01:12:16,828
It's gonna suck
[laughs]
1588
01:12:19,702 --> 01:12:21,602
[crickets chirping]
1589
01:12:21,637 --> 01:12:24,697
Bobby Hallie and I
texted each other
1590
01:12:24,740 --> 01:12:27,038
and she sent me a couple
of lengthy messages
1591
01:12:27,076 --> 01:12:28,703
that I can read if you want
1592
01:12:28,744 --> 01:12:30,234
She's not gonna be
at either show
1593
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:31,610
There's no way in hell
1594
01:12:31,647 --> 01:12:34,741
I do know what this means
to you==trust me I do
1595
01:12:34,783 --> 01:12:37,013
- One of the nights
You know what?
1596
01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:38,917
- Let me put it this way
1597
01:12:38,954 --> 01:12:40,751
I've got so much invested
in this
1598
01:12:40,789 --> 01:12:42,484
I've gone beyond the deposit
1599
01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:44,082
I've spent my own money
on this
1600
01:12:44,126 --> 01:12:45,559
I need these shows to happen
1601
01:12:45,594 --> 01:12:47,960
I'll do whatever it takes
to make these shows happen
1602
01:12:47,996 --> 01:12:51,432
If it means fucking lying
to Hallie
1603
01:12:51,467 --> 01:12:53,298
and telling her
she'll get a $1 million
1604
01:12:53,335 --> 01:12:55,326
if she shows up
I'll do it
1605
01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:57,134
But I just don't have
high hopes
1606
01:12:57,172 --> 01:12:58,605
and you got to get it out
of your head
1607
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,868
that she's gonna show up or not
1608
01:13:05,781 --> 01:13:06,873
And I know that
1609
01:13:06,915 --> 01:13:09,042
- So what else am I supposed
to do?
1610
01:13:09,084 --> 01:13:12,542
She basically said
Bobby is==
1611
01:13:12,588 --> 01:13:14,215
you know
in not so many words==
1612
01:13:14,256 --> 01:13:16,520
off his rocker
doing cocaine again
1613
01:13:16,558 --> 01:13:18,719
You have to go down
to Germantown
1614
01:13:18,761 --> 01:13:20,729
get him out
of the sub-basement
1615
01:13:20,763 --> 01:13:22,663
and bring him to Philly
1616
01:13:22,698 --> 01:13:24,495
or he's not gonna play
these shows
1617
01:13:24,533 --> 01:13:26,194
So she knows
1618
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,767
- Listen you got to leave
in ten hours
1619
01:13:33,809 --> 01:13:35,777
I don't know if she's wrong yet
or not
1620
01:13:35,811 --> 01:13:37,574
Your hair's not dyed
You should==
1621
01:13:37,613 --> 01:13:39,308
It's 1 0:30 at night
1622
01:13:39,348 --> 01:13:41,077
Your fucking clothes
aren't dry-cleaned
1623
01:13:41,116 --> 01:13:42,947
I should have went down
and got you
1624
01:13:45,821 --> 01:13:48,381
- [sighs] I hope so
1625
01:13:55,063 --> 01:13:57,054
- If you're doing what you said
you were gonna do
1626
01:13:57,099 --> 01:13:58,691
let's just do it
1627
01:13:58,734 --> 01:14:01,134
We're gonna get in an argument
we're gonna raise our voices
1628
01:14:01,170 --> 01:14:03,035
and your voice is gonna be
even
1629
01:14:05,374 --> 01:14:07,899
- I will promise you I will send
that text
1630
01:14:07,943 --> 01:14:09,968
Honestly Bobby I'm super
stressed out right now
1631
01:14:10,012 --> 01:14:11,070
and I'm just==
1632
01:14:11,113 --> 01:14:12,671
I'll send her that text
1633
01:14:12,714 --> 01:14:14,306
but I got to finish
this merch stuff
1634
01:14:14,349 --> 01:14:16,078
I got to do a bunch of shit
for the shows
1635
01:14:24,726 --> 01:14:27,991
- Please relax tonight
and take your bath and chill
1636
01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:29,327
and I'm gonna do
1637
01:14:29,364 --> 01:14:32,925
- Did you think this was
gonna go any other way?
1638
01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:34,731
- Yeah I did
1639
01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:38,297
because Bobby's been really
fucking focused lately
1640
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:40,865
I mean he's been really
heartbroken over Hallie
1641
01:14:40,909 --> 01:14:42,570
and that you know
and any time
1642
01:14:42,611 --> 01:14:44,374
I need a ten-minute conversation
out of him
1643
01:14:44,413 --> 01:14:46,210
I figure it's gonna be an hour
'cause I got to==
1644
01:14:46,248 --> 01:14:47,647
50 minutes of Hallie
which is fine
1645
01:14:47,683 --> 01:14:49,412
He's my friend
It's cool
1646
01:14:49,451 --> 01:14:52,784
I know what it's like to suffer
that way and it's cool
1647
01:14:52,821 --> 01:14:55,381
But through it all he's really
getting kind of focused
1648
01:14:55,424 --> 01:14:58,655
and it's like he's focused
to prove this to her
1649
01:14:58,694 --> 01:15:02,130
I mean you know
I think he thinks
1650
01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:04,291
if he pulls these two shows off
1651
01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:05,857
and shows that he can really
do it
1652
01:15:05,901 --> 01:15:07,562
he'll be able to take care
of her
1653
01:15:07,603 --> 01:15:09,195
and make money and all that
1654
01:15:09,238 --> 01:15:10,432
[sighs]
1655
01:15:10,472 --> 01:15:12,133
He's doing these shows
just for her
1656
01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:14,267
And now that she's not there
he doesn't want to do 'em
1657
01:15:14,309 --> 01:15:15,970
but he can't back out
1658
01:15:16,011 --> 01:15:17,239
I mean it's not just me
1659
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:19,304
who's got money and time
involved in this
1660
01:15:19,348 --> 01:15:20,679
It's a lot of people
1661
01:15:22,351 --> 01:15:25,320
[somber music]
1662
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:33,022
* *
1663
01:15:39,735 --> 01:15:41,464
- # My final hour's
getting near #
1664
01:15:41,503 --> 01:15:43,869
# The time is getting close,
I fear #
1665
01:15:43,906 --> 01:15:46,101
# Footsteps at my door,
I hear #
1666
01:15:46,141 --> 01:15:48,336
# Time to pay for life
so dear #
1667
01:15:48,377 --> 01:15:50,311
# I want to flee,
but it's too late #
1668
01:15:50,345 --> 01:15:52,609
# My soul is in the grip
of fate #
1669
01:15:52,648 --> 01:15:55,139
# Close my eyes
and one last breath #
1670
01:15:55,183 --> 01:15:59,449
# Feel the cold, cold hands
of death #
1671
01:15:59,488 --> 01:16:01,080
- "Pentagarm"
1672
01:16:01,123 --> 01:16:02,556
"Pentagarm" it says
1673
01:16:02,591 --> 01:16:05,890
It does
It says g-a-r-m
1674
01:16:05,928 --> 01:16:07,395
That's all right
1675
01:16:07,429 --> 01:16:11,957
I live in hell anyway
What's the fucking difference?
1676
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,194
- Check, uh
1677
01:16:13,235 --> 01:16:15,533
Uh-uh
1678
01:16:15,571 --> 01:16:17,436
Hey-hey-hey,
check-check-check
1679
01:16:17,472 --> 01:16:19,337
82
1680
01:16:22,077 --> 01:16:23,271
- Yeah there's my pants
1681
01:16:23,312 --> 01:16:24,609
That's all I'm wearing
for pants
1682
01:16:24,646 --> 01:16:28,013
It's just black tight pants
1683
01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:31,417
This I'm thinking is what people
like 'cause it's paisley
1684
01:16:31,453 --> 01:16:33,887
You know what I mean?
1685
01:16:33,922 --> 01:16:36,152
And it's very very old look
1686
01:16:36,191 --> 01:16:38,386
A '70 you know '60s whatever
1687
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:40,861
It's hippie all right?
1688
01:16:40,896 --> 01:16:46,198
But
you can't out-flamboyant that
1689
01:16:46,234 --> 01:16:48,532
That's a motherfucker
isn't it?
1690
01:16:48,570 --> 01:16:50,231
I mean this is a true==
1691
01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:51,239
feel this thing
1692
01:16:51,273 --> 01:16:53,867
Feel how bizarre it feels
1693
01:16:53,909 --> 01:16:55,877
The first time that I started
using these clothes
1694
01:16:55,911 --> 01:16:58,880
did I think I'd be breaking
them out again?
1695
01:16:58,914 --> 01:17:00,347
I thought
I'd be throwing them out
1696
01:17:00,382 --> 01:17:02,145
but I don't know about
breaking them out
1697
01:17:02,184 --> 01:17:03,708
[laughs]
1698
01:17:03,752 --> 01:17:04,741
It's weird isn't it?
1699
01:17:04,786 --> 01:17:07,914
They're all my mom's
1700
01:17:07,956 --> 01:17:13,622
I just thank God above for
everything that has transpired
1701
01:17:13,662 --> 01:17:21,000
and the people have
phenomenally
1702
01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:24,403
astonished me
astounded me
1703
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:29,467
with their devotion
and their mega support
1704
01:17:29,511 --> 01:17:38,283
And it's finally caught on
to the fact that
1705
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,723
what goes
will always come back
1706
01:17:45,494 --> 01:17:47,121
- We came all the way from LA
for this
1707
01:17:47,162 --> 01:17:50,757
and it's a really important
night obviously
1708
01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:54,599
It's almost like Bobby's return
you know?
1709
01:17:54,636 --> 01:17:57,571
[poignant orchestral music]
1710
01:17:57,606 --> 01:18:05,604
* *
1711
01:18:21,196 --> 01:18:23,426
- Hey everybody
in the whole place man
1712
01:18:23,465 --> 01:18:24,796
God bless all of you
1713
01:18:24,833 --> 01:18:26,858
and I mean it from the bottom
of my heart thank you
1714
01:18:26,902 --> 01:18:28,893
I mean it
1715
01:18:28,937 --> 01:18:30,495
- Thank you
- Thank you Bobby
1716
01:18:30,539 --> 01:18:34,100
- I truly mean it
God bless all of you
1717
01:18:34,142 --> 01:18:35,609
- Bobby!
1718
01:18:35,644 --> 01:18:39,978
[cheers and applause]
1719
01:18:40,015 --> 01:18:40,982
The legend!
1720
01:18:41,016 --> 01:18:43,712
* *
1721
01:18:57,132 --> 01:19:00,192
[cheers and applause]
1722
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:03,499
[crowd chanting]
Pentagram!
1723
01:19:03,538 --> 01:19:08,407
Pentagram! Pentagram!
Pentagram!
1724
01:19:19,488 --> 01:19:23,948
[cheers and applause]
1725
01:19:32,467 --> 01:19:34,196
- I love you
1726
01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:39,403
God bless all of you
1727
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:41,875
[cheering and whistling]
1728
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:43,935
I can't believe this is real
1729
01:19:43,979 --> 01:19:46,174
I mean I do
1730
01:19:46,214 --> 01:19:48,375
I want to thank you from
the bottom of my heart
1731
01:19:48,416 --> 01:19:51,078
and I mean this
deep down inside
1732
01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:52,086
[cheers and applause]
1733
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,212
You came through
1734
01:19:53,255 --> 01:19:56,691
Without you I ain't
1735
01:19:56,725 --> 01:19:59,091
You get my message?
1736
01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:02,096
[heavy metal music]
1737
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:10,128
* *
1738
01:20:13,508 --> 01:20:16,477
[muffled singing]
1739
01:20:16,511 --> 01:20:24,509
* *
1740
01:20:41,703 --> 01:20:49,701
* *
1741
01:21:04,092 --> 01:21:08,426
[heavy metal fades]
1742
01:21:08,463 --> 01:21:11,432
[poignant orchestral music]
1743
01:21:11,466 --> 01:21:19,464
* *
1744
01:21:29,084 --> 01:21:37,082
* *
1745
01:22:07,489 --> 01:22:09,889
[cheering fades in]
1746
01:22:09,925 --> 01:22:11,893
[strings fade out]
1747
01:22:11,927 --> 01:22:13,895
[heavy metal fades in]
1748
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:21,927
* *
1749
01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:29,133
[cheers and applause]
1750
01:22:41,089 --> 01:22:43,523
Thank God for all of you!
1751
01:22:45,994 --> 01:22:49,760
[cheers and applause]
1752
01:22:52,767 --> 01:22:54,530
[indistinct chatter]
1753
01:22:54,569 --> 01:22:55,797
- Thank you
Thank you
1754
01:22:55,837 --> 01:22:58,897
- Made my fucking lifetime man
1755
01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:00,703
- Thanks Bobby
Thank you so much
1756
01:23:00,742 --> 01:23:03,836
I know you're tired
Thank you so much
1757
01:23:03,878 --> 01:23:06,438
- Bobby
that was fucking awesome
1758
01:23:06,481 --> 01:23:07,675
- That was great
1759
01:23:07,716 --> 01:23:09,343
- Thank you Bobby
That was awesome man
1760
01:23:09,384 --> 01:23:10,373
It was right on
1761
01:23:10,418 --> 01:23:12,409
- It was overpowering
1762
01:23:12,454 --> 01:23:14,115
I'm still feeling==
I'm getting choked up
1763
01:23:14,155 --> 01:23:16,419
I mean I went from laughing
like hysterically
1764
01:23:16,458 --> 01:23:19,086
to like crying
1765
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:20,617
I just==I can't explain it
1766
01:23:20,662 --> 01:23:23,529
and for me
I just felt like a kid
1767
01:23:23,565 --> 01:23:26,261
To be on the side of the stage
and watching my favorite band
1768
01:23:26,301 --> 01:23:28,895
at their biggest show ever
1769
01:23:28,937 --> 01:23:31,667
and knowing I had something
to do with it I just==
1770
01:23:31,706 --> 01:23:34,732
it's like==it's a fucking
Christmas gift dude
1771
01:23:34,776 --> 01:23:36,038
You know?
1772
01:23:36,077 --> 01:23:38,841
It's fucking Hanukkah
Christmas and Kwanzaa
1773
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,279
all in one
1774
01:23:40,315 --> 01:23:42,476
and Bobby Liebling delivering
the presents
1775
01:23:42,517 --> 01:23:43,916
It's fucking great
1776
01:23:43,952 --> 01:23:47,911
If it all falls apart now
I'm fucking happy as shit
1777
01:23:47,956 --> 01:23:50,117
If an arrow fucking comes
hits me in the head right now
1778
01:23:50,158 --> 01:23:51,648
I don't care;
I feel great
1779
01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:52,887
I'm just psyched dude
1780
01:23:52,927 --> 01:23:55,157
This is the best night
of my life really
1781
01:23:57,198 --> 01:23:59,689
- I'm alive
1782
01:23:59,734 --> 01:24:02,726
I'm alive
and that's something
1783
01:24:02,771 --> 01:24:05,239
that I would have never
expected
1784
01:24:05,273 --> 01:24:07,264
and three or four
hospital record books
1785
01:24:07,308 --> 01:24:10,835
say the same damn thing
1786
01:24:10,879 --> 01:24:14,246
But you know
1787
01:24:14,282 --> 01:24:16,682
who knows what
you got in the cards right?
1788
01:24:16,718 --> 01:24:18,481
You got to spin that wheel
1789
01:24:20,789 --> 01:24:22,814
[Southern accent] "Life is like
a box of chocolates
1790
01:24:22,857 --> 01:24:25,690
You never know
what you're gonna get"
1791
01:24:25,727 --> 01:24:29,128
[somber music]
1792
01:24:36,504 --> 01:24:40,941
[sizzling]
1793
01:24:52,287 --> 01:24:54,152
Okay
1794
01:24:59,227 --> 01:25:00,751
Come out and get your breakfast
baby
1795
01:25:00,795 --> 01:25:04,128
It's sausage and toast
1796
01:25:04,165 --> 01:25:06,827
Hallie?
Hal?
1797
01:25:06,868 --> 01:25:10,269
- Coming
- You want to come out and eat?
1798
01:25:10,305 --> 01:25:12,296
All right?
1799
01:25:12,340 --> 01:25:14,399
Here I'm gonna show them
half of the eggs
1800
01:25:14,442 --> 01:25:16,273
I had to scramble them
but they're==
1801
01:25:16,311 --> 01:25:18,302
Daddy makes a good breakfast
1802
01:25:21,349 --> 01:25:23,817
- After he played
the Webster Hall show
1803
01:25:23,852 --> 01:25:26,218
he started getting the ball
rolling again with his work
1804
01:25:26,254 --> 01:25:28,245
and had started like
at least trying
1805
01:25:28,289 --> 01:25:31,224
to get out of his parents'
1806
01:25:31,259 --> 01:25:33,591
and having something to do
1807
01:25:33,628 --> 01:25:38,725
rather than just sitting around
and destroying himself
1808
01:25:38,766 --> 01:25:40,233
I had always thought about him
1809
01:25:40,268 --> 01:25:42,259
He'd never left my mind
1810
01:25:42,303 --> 01:25:45,602
and I just called
to check on him
1811
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,631
It progressed from there
1812
01:25:47,675 --> 01:25:52,112
From him coming back here
to visit and him being sober
1813
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:56,174
we're just both really happy
and it's pretty harmonious
1814
01:25:56,217 --> 01:25:58,310
Like I like his intensity
1815
01:25:58,353 --> 01:26:00,378
because it's different from
what I am
1816
01:26:00,421 --> 01:26:02,981
and we meet like
somewhere in the middle
1817
01:26:03,024 --> 01:26:07,290
But it's not so outrageous
like how it was
1818
01:26:07,328 --> 01:26:12,322
It's a kind natural intensity
rather than craziness
1819
01:26:12,367 --> 01:26:15,928
It's really been incredible
to watch his metamorphosis
1820
01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:19,133
Bobby's like a miracle to me
1821
01:26:19,174 --> 01:26:21,369
I just have to kind of trust
my heart and my instincts
1822
01:26:21,409 --> 01:26:22,376
in this situation
1823
01:26:22,410 --> 01:26:26,642
I have had to a lot
like um
1824
01:26:26,681 --> 01:26:29,275
and just trust him
because he's more likely
1825
01:26:29,317 --> 01:26:33,151
to pan out the way
that I want him to
1826
01:26:33,188 --> 01:26:34,883
if I trust him sincerely
1827
01:26:34,923 --> 01:26:37,153
instead of you know
just half-ass
1828
01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:38,625
like
"Okay we'll see how it goes"
1829
01:26:38,660 --> 01:26:40,491
But like just having one foot
in the water
1830
01:26:40,528 --> 01:26:41,790
- [barks]
1831
01:26:41,829 --> 01:26:43,194
Here==I'm not supposed to do
this
1832
01:26:43,231 --> 01:26:45,199
but you can have one more piece
of toast
1833
01:26:45,233 --> 01:26:46,757
Here one more bite for you
is all
1834
01:26:46,801 --> 01:26:54,537
After the American tour we had
a very deep unified period
1835
01:26:54,576 --> 01:26:56,441
that I recall pretty well
1836
01:26:56,477 --> 01:27:02,382
of bonding with intent of
1837
01:27:02,417 --> 01:27:04,214
this is for eternity
1838
01:27:04,252 --> 01:27:08,712
* *
1839
01:27:08,756 --> 01:27:11,247
- We got married
the end of November
1840
01:27:11,292 --> 01:27:12,452
- Day before Thanksgiving
1841
01:27:12,493 --> 01:27:14,757
- Yeah it was the day before
Thanksgiving
1842
01:27:14,796 --> 01:27:17,230
- You know right there
That's it
1843
01:27:17,265 --> 01:27:18,459
It's for life
1844
01:27:18,499 --> 01:27:21,468
You know love is forever
and love is for two
1845
01:27:21,502 --> 01:27:23,265
- I got to put it on
his joke-shop finger too
1846
01:27:23,304 --> 01:27:25,602
the one with the knuckle
cut out
1847
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,574
As his wedding finger
1848
01:27:27,609 --> 01:27:29,236
We were getting married
and I was like
1849
01:27:29,277 --> 01:27:31,268
"Aw I get to put it on
his little fucked-up finger"
1850
01:27:31,312 --> 01:27:32,745
[laughs]
1851
01:27:32,780 --> 01:27:34,270
- [laughs]
1852
01:27:34,315 --> 01:27:35,680
- The cute little finger
1853
01:27:35,717 --> 01:27:37,514
- Yeah my joke-shop finger
1854
01:27:37,552 --> 01:27:39,383
- Yeah it's like
1855
01:27:39,420 --> 01:27:40,944
- It's like it doesn't have
any knuckle
1856
01:27:40,989 --> 01:27:42,149
- Yeah there's no knuckle
1857
01:27:47,695 --> 01:27:50,061
- We've been through
an awful lot
1858
01:27:50,098 --> 01:27:52,259
in the two-plus years
1859
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:56,930
that we've you know
known each other
1860
01:27:56,971 --> 01:27:59,701
and now we're on paper
1861
01:27:59,741 --> 01:28:04,075
and this is
Mrs Robert Liebling
1862
01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:05,807
- I looked at all of your labs
1863
01:28:05,847 --> 01:28:08,077
Everything looks great
1864
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:15,079
- I am very ecstatically
happily married
1865
01:28:15,123 --> 01:28:18,581
and uh expecting
1866
01:28:18,626 --> 01:28:22,722
There's a bun in the oven
1867
01:28:22,764 --> 01:28:25,198
I don't know another way
to put it you know?
1868
01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:27,599
It's gonna be corny anyway
but it's not corny to me
1869
01:28:27,635 --> 01:28:29,159
It's my whole life
1870
01:28:29,203 --> 01:28:32,434
We're gonna have a baby
1871
01:28:32,473 --> 01:28:35,965
- Hold this?
1872
01:28:36,010 --> 01:28:39,070
- Do you have names picked out
for girls or boys?
1873
01:28:39,113 --> 01:28:40,478
- Yeah we agree on nothing
1874
01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:42,312
- You can lie down
- We agree on next to nothing
1875
01:28:42,350 --> 01:28:44,511
- [laughs]
1876
01:28:44,552 --> 01:28:46,281
Sounds about right
1877
01:28:50,658 --> 01:28:53,752
[gentle orchestral music]
1878
01:28:53,795 --> 01:28:56,662
[static crackling]
1879
01:29:04,505 --> 01:29:07,906
It's like coming in and out
of my little machine
1880
01:29:07,942 --> 01:29:09,773
- Mm-hmm
1881
01:29:09,811 --> 01:29:13,008
- What a troublemaker
1882
01:29:13,047 --> 01:29:15,413
[static and rumbling]
1883
01:29:15,450 --> 01:29:17,816
Come on Come back
1884
01:29:17,852 --> 01:29:18,819
There we go
1885
01:29:18,853 --> 01:29:20,411
[heartbeat thumping]
1886
01:29:20,455 --> 01:29:24,551
Sounds perfect
1887
01:29:24,592 --> 01:29:26,617
Perfect
1888
01:29:26,661 --> 01:29:29,391
Right where it should be
1889
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:32,058
[thumping continues]
1890
01:29:35,937 --> 01:29:37,529
That's great
1891
01:29:37,572 --> 01:29:43,704
- That's something I never
dreamt would ever come about
1892
01:29:43,745 --> 01:29:46,737
And um
look out world
1893
01:29:46,781 --> 01:29:49,443
There's gonna be another me
[laughs]
1894
01:29:50,852 --> 01:29:53,844
* *
1895
01:30:21,115 --> 01:30:24,573
* My peace of mind
depends on you *
1896
01:30:24,619 --> 01:30:28,180
* My space in time is here
with you too *
1897
01:30:28,222 --> 01:30:32,318
* Drop all your dreams
in the palm of my hands *
1898
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,796
* Step in the blue light
fulfill my plans *
1899
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:42,895
* *
1900
01:30:54,148 --> 01:30:57,743
* Come with me now
the midnight calls *
1901
01:30:57,785 --> 01:31:01,380
* All are asleep
as the kingdom falls *
1902
01:31:01,422 --> 01:31:05,153
* Seeking our goals
as a life had planned *
1903
01:31:05,193 --> 01:31:08,993
* Walk in the blue light
you'll understand *
1904
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:17,028
* *
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