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RED ROOMS
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All rise, please.
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The Superior Court of Quebec
is now in session,
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presided by
the Honourable Marcel Godbout.
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Please ensure that your cell phones
are turned off.
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You may be seated.
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Hello everyone.
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I am Justice Godbout.
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We'll be spending the next two months
here together.
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Members of the jury.
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Your responsibility,
today and until the end of the trial,
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will be to decide whether
the defendant here today,
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Mr. Ludovic Chevalier, is guilty or not guilty
of the charges laid against him,
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basing the verdict only on the evidence
presented against him here in court.
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It is the Crown's duty to prove
the defendant's guilt
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beyond all reasonable doubt,
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to prove that the crimes
have been committed
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and that Ludovic Chevalier is the person
who committed them.
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I must warn everyone present
that the evidence in this trial is exceptional
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due to its extremely explicit
and violent nature.
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If you feel you might not be able
to tolerate seeing it,
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it's best to leave now, to avoid
causing a commotion in the courtroom.
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Mr. Chevalier, please rise to hear
the accusations placed against you.
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Mr. Chevalier, you are accused of
three counts of first degree murder,
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abduction, confinement,
sexual assault causing bodily harm,
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committing an indignity to a corpse,
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and production and distribution
of obscene materials.
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How do you plead to these charges?
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My client pleads not guilty,
Your Honour.
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You may be seated.
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I invite the Crown
to make their opening statement.
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Your Honour, members of the jury,
good day.
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I am Yasmine Chedid,
Crown Prosecutor for this case.
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Kim Leblanc,
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Justine Roy
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and Camille Beaulieu.
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These three young girls
will never see their next birthday.
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They will never graduate
from high school.
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They won't go to grad,
or to college, or to university.
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They won't achieve their dreams.
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Kim was a hockey player.
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She dedicated her life to it
from a young age.
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She had the grit and the talent
to become a national-level player.
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As for Justine, she liked pirouettes.
And making people laugh.
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A real sunbeam.
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And Camille.
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A model student,
her class president.
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Always smiling,
always getting involved in activities.
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She was just starting junior high.
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16 years old.
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14 years old.
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13 years old.
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They had their whole lives
before them.
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Lives that were drastically shortened,
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torn away
by the defendant here.
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That is what we will prove to you.
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As for the case that you will hear
in the coming weeks,
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unless you've been living
on a mountaintop or in a cave,
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you'll surely have heard about it
in the past year.
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What we will try to prove here
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is that Ludovic Chevalier is the one
who committed these horrible murders.
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And that he filmed them in his studio,
his garage,
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for a private audience
willing to pay to see it live
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in what is called a red room.
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These grisly shows
have long been a myth of the dark web.
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But today, we know that they do exist
in that grim world.
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I've been in charge of this case
for several months now.
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Eleven, to be precise.
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Many times,
I almost walked away.
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It's horrible, heinous.
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It's...
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In good French,
it's disgusting.
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When I was assigned the case,
I took the videos
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and I watched them.
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I never looked at them again.
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Once was enough.
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Once was too much.
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Genital mutilation.
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Eyeballs slit with an exacto.
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Intestines on display.
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Bodies in pieces.
Limbs torn off.
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And the screams of Kim and Justine,
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I hear them every night
when I close my eyes.
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And I think it may be a blessing
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that we never found the video
of little Camille.
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Because it would be
just another voice
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in the horror chorus I hear every night.
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I want to ask your forgiveness
for what I will inflict on you.
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I have chosen the word inflict.
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Because asking human beings
to watch these kinds of videos
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is inflicting something on them.
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But it’s nothing compared to what
those young girls suffered.
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And what their families have suffered.
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So in the next weeks,
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we will show you that Ludovic Chevalier
committed the murder,
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the abduction,
the confinement,
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the mutilation,
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and the sexual assault
causing bodily harm
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to these three young girls.
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Kim, Justine and Camille.
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In addition, the investigator will speak
of how the crime scene was processed,
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and we will hear
from the victims' parents,
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who are in great psychological distress,
as you can well imagine.
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We will then call in
several expert witnesses,
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starting with the FBI agent who first found
the two videos on the dark web.
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We'll hear from a tech crimes expert
tasked with looking after the files
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since the case
came under Canadian jurisdiction.
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A witness will explain the difference
between the deep web and the dark web,
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how red rooms work,
and the concept of supply and demand.
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Because you will quickly understand
that it's no coincidence
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that the three victims are all minors,
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all Caucasian, blond, blue-eyed
and from good families.
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They are worth the most money
on this kind of black market.
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Because yes,
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in the eyes of these sadists,
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our lives and our deaths
have a price.
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A witness will come and explain
how they were able to find the accused.
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Another will tell you
about the weeks before the arrest.
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The surveillance he was under.
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A facial recognition expert
will explain that through data extraction,
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we can identify the eyes in the video
as those of Chevalier.
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And another witness will analyze
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the biomechanics
and physiognomy of Chevalier
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that is so similar,
if not identical,
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to that of the torturer
in the murder videos.
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After all of this testimony,
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we think you will be convinced
of the guilt of the accused.
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That you will be unable
to look him in the eye
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when his monstrous, greedy
and calculating nature is revealed.
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I told you that I almost walked away
from this case several times.
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So why am I here before you today?
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Because I owe it to the victims.
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And to the families of the victims.
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I ask you to allow them
a tiny bit of peace of mind
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by coming to the only possible
conclusion to this trial.
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Guilty.
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Thank you.
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Thanks. Excuse me.
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Thanks, Attorney Chedid.
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I now invite Attorney Fortin
for the defence.
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Thanks, Your Honour.
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And hello to the members of the jury.
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I'm Richard Fortin,
defence lawyer for Mr. Chevalier.
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The next weeks will be hard.
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What happened to these young girls
is abominable and hideous.
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Nothing will bring them back.
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But what I request of you,
ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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is to keep an open mind.
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You must not have the sensationalist
and populist reflex
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to devour the prey
placed here before you like cannibals.
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Because with all due respect to the police,
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the investigator
and the Crown Prosecutor,
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it's easy to pounce on a person,
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to point all the proof
in the same direction
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and to say, "It was him!"
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But can you be certain,
once you are alone with your conscience,
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that you can say
beyond a reasonable doubt
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that these crimes
were committed by this man?
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You see, the Crown will call forward
a stable of witnesses.
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They will show you horrible videos
that strike at your soul.
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And it will be easy to say that
the human on trial is truly heinous.
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But in the end,
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all you will have is a horrible crime,
which is undeniable,
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and the assumption
that it was Mr. Chevalier.
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They will lead you
towards Mr. Chevalier.
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But if you look at the facts,
can you be sure?
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Can you be absolutely certain
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that this is the man who committed them?
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The answer is no.
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It will be impossible
for the Crown to prove it,
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because they don't have proof
beyond a reasonable doubt.
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And that's why,
ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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the Crown will try to portray my client
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as a murderer
straight out of an insane fantasy.
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A bloodthirsty serial killer,
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barbaric, inhuman.
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But in fact,
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nothing in my client's past indicates
that he's capable of such atrocities.
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My client has no criminal record.
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He's never been involved
with the justice system.
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On paper, Ludovic Chevalier
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is a model citizen.
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He's never harmed anyone.
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He's never even gotten
a parking ticket.
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The Crown's witnesses will try to identify
the masked man in the videos as Chevalier.
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It's true.
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The man in the videos
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has blue eyes like Ludovic.
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The man in the videos has a stance
and a body type similar to Ludovic's.
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Do you know how many men in Montreal
share that same description?
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One of my witnesses will spell it out,
but let me give you a hint:
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it's in the thousands.
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Look, even you, sir.
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You could fit that description.
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The Crown will tell you
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that the videos were found
on my client’s computer,
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which would incriminate him
beyond all doubt.
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But my expert witnesses will show you
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how the videos might appear
on his computer without his knowledge.
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His computer could have been hacked,
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and the videos placed there
without his consent.
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His router could have been compromised
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and used to navigate
to unsavoury sites
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without his knowledge.
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It's a possibility
that is quite plausible.
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And then,
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there's another very important point
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that the Crown has never resolved,
because it can't.
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If the videos of Mr. Chevalier
are as lucrative as they claim,
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where's the money?
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My client hasn't done any extravagant
spending in the past few years.
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No new sports cars,
no cruises in the Caribbean.
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His lifestyle and status
has remained the same.
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No money, no motive.
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So I want to warn you,
ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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not to be influenced or corrupted
by what you will hear.
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The evidence must be analyzed
with regards to its quality,
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not its quantity,
nor the number of witnesses called.
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What I mean is, it's not because
there are a hundred witnesses
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all claiming that it's him
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that we can be sure of his guilt.
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No, it will take only one person
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who can say, with absolute certainty,
that he's the one who did it.
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In this case, we don't have
a witness who can say that.
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That person does not exist.
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You were at the Chevalier trial today?
Why did you want to go?
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What motivated you to attend
the trial of the Demon of Rosemont?
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-I was curious.
-You were curious?
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I wanted to see him in person.
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When did you arrive this morning?
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Thank you.
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This trial is a joke!
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How did they get the videos,
the so-called solid evidence?
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They used hacking methods
that aren't legally allowed.
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They didn't use due process,
it shouldn't be allowed.
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And the man in the video
is wearing a mask,
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so how can they be sure
that it's Ludovic?
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All that circumstantial evidence
isn't enough.
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It shows how crooked
the prosecutor is.
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She'll do anything to pin it
on that innocent man.
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-You think Chevalier is innocent?
-Yes he is!
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-What about the evidence?
-What evidence?
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-The bodies by his old appartment...
-It's just chance.
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Maybe the murderer
is trying to frame him.
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Why don't they try to find the murderer,
instead of pinning it on Ludovic?
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-He's the real victim here.
-The victim?
249
00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:51,530
You think Chevalier is the victim?
250
00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:54,450
Everything is set up against him.
He's never hurt a fly!
251
00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:57,540
He's just an unhappy man,
and he's suffered so much.
252
00:22:57,580 --> 00:23:00,000
They invented a crime
and called him guilty.
253
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880
They fabricated these videos,
which they hide from the public...
254
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,260
-You think the videos are fabricated?
-Why not? Anything is possible.
255
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,720
With technology,
they can change the eyes...
256
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,910
Infos for Saturday’s photoshoot
257
00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:41,080
Hello Kelly-Anne,
I hope you're well.
258
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,160
The photoshoot on Saturday
will be at Modal Studio
259
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:47,040
on 90 rue de la Commune East.
260
00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:51,710
The closest metro is Place-d'Armes,
but it's a bit of a walk from there.
261
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,340
Hair and makeup at 9.
262
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:59,050
You'll have four outfits.
It should be done by mid-afternoon.
263
00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:01,720
Let me know how it goes.
264
00:26:02,270 --> 00:26:05,810
Also, check out
the DressToDare website.
265
00:26:05,850 --> 00:26:08,560
Your image is featured
on the main page.
266
00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:10,400
See you soon, sweetie.
267
00:26:10,650 --> 00:26:12,440
Signed, Lucie.
268
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,330
Got it, Lucie. Thanks.
269
00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:26,620
Got it, Lucie. Thanks.
270
00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:32,270
Arming complete.
Leave now.
271
00:28:29,410 --> 00:28:33,460
Sorry. I didn't want to wake you, but...
272
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,590
I was just passing by and I saw you.
273
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,420
They messed up
and put sugar in my coffee.
274
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:41,550
Do you like coffee with sugar?
275
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:50,270
Sorry, that was dumb.
I should've let you sleep.
276
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,730
But it's warm now.
277
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:55,270
No, it's just that I don't drink coffee.
278
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:57,440
Yeah, sorry. That was dumb of me.
279
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,070
I saw you yesterday
and you weren't drinking any.
280
00:29:00,110 --> 00:29:03,110
Sorry, I should have let you sleep.
281
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,370
No, it's okay. No big deal.
Thanks anyway.
282
00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:22,260
You know, you can bring it back
and they'll fix your order.
283
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,430
Really, it's no big deal.
284
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:33,440
Well, it's kind of a big deal.
It's their job not to be wrong.
285
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:39,270
Go if you want.
I'll save your place in line.
286
00:29:40,690 --> 00:29:41,820
Yeah?
287
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:43,950
Yeah.
288
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,120
Well, okay.
289
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,410
Okay, I'll go.
Be right back.
290
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Here's Ludovic's horoscope for today.
291
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,980
Libra: your health is good,
but you're feeling a bit nervous.
292
00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:19,110
Try to lighten up a bit.
293
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:22,570
Love: Happiness reigns inside of you.
294
00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:25,780
Your beloved is trying to get closer.
295
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:28,160
That's funny, eh?
296
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,290
You know it's his birthday soon?
297
00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:35,540
October 3, in three weeks.
298
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,330
Are you going to get him a present?
299
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:42,380
You'll still be here in three weeks?
300
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:44,880
Of course. You will too, right?
301
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,100
Ms. Beaulieu, when was this photo
of your daughter taken?
302
00:30:58,850 --> 00:31:01,360
October 13, 2020.
303
00:31:01,940 --> 00:31:03,980
The day she disappeared.
304
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,740
It's the last photo of her alive.
305
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,490
I know this is hard, Ms. Beaulieu.
306
00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:13,660
I'm going to ask a question,
and I want you to answer it.
307
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,120
What is your daughter wearing
in this photo?
308
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Her school uniform
from Marie-Jésus High School.
309
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,710
Can you describe it to the jury?
310
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:26,010
There are six articles in the uniform.
311
00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:28,550
There's the red and navy plaid skirt.
312
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:30,680
Navy tights.
313
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,010
Sometimes in summer
she'd wear knee-highs...
314
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:37,140
Ms. Beaulieu, please stick
to what she's wearing in the photo.
315
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,310
Navy tights.
316
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,190
A white polo shirt.
317
00:31:45,230 --> 00:31:48,400
A burgundy cardigan
with the school crest.
318
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:54,030
And she was wearing black shoes,
but you can't see them in the photo.
319
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,450
Perfect.
Thank you.
320
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,210
Does this resemble
your daughter's uniform?
321
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:08,920
Yes, it's hers.
322
00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:11,840
From the same school?
323
00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:16,600
Yes, you can tell
by the crest on the cardigan.
324
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,440
I have one last photo to show you,
but I want to ask you a question first.
325
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:27,190
Was there something particular
about your daughter's teeth?
326
00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:29,780
She wore braces.
327
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,410
Like these?
328
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:32,490
Objection!
329
00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:34,990
I withdraw my question, Your Honour.
330
00:32:35,030 --> 00:32:38,080
Please disregard the last question.
331
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,790
Are you ready to go on,
Ms. Beaulieu?
332
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,210
-Can we take a break, please?
-Of course.
333
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:53,390
Your Honour,
I think it's a good time for a break.
334
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:57,680
All right, we'll continue at 2PM
instead of 2:30.
335
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:08,110
She's trying to manipulate
the jury with her schoolteacher tone.
336
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:09,610
Jeez, what a bitch.
337
00:33:09,650 --> 00:33:13,660
Seriously, showing a photo
of the decomposing jaw to the jury,
338
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,740
and in front of Camille's mom!
339
00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:20,160
Sure, the judge can tell them to ignore it,
but the harm is done.
340
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,040
They've seen Ludovic in the box
and a decomposing jaw right next to him.
341
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,630
Of course they're going to want
to say he's guilty.
342
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,880
Pasta salad and a coffee, please.
343
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,680
And really, finding that buried uniform
means nothing.
344
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,890
A uniform is, by definition, uniform.
Everyone at that school has one.
345
00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:41,890
But they found her blood
on the uniform.
346
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:44,390
Okay, but it could be blood
from anything.
347
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,810
From a cut,
from her period.
348
00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:49,020
We don't know.
349
00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:52,240
Maybe the uniform was buried
weeks before her murder.
350
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160
She's 13, gets her first period,
gets embarrassed,
351
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,570
wants to get rid of her clothes.
352
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,080
And she'd get rid of her braces too?
353
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,540
Seriously, having braces
at that age is really awful.
354
00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:09,290
When I was 14, I had a retainer.
You know, the kind you can take off.
355
00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:12,050
Everyone was so mean about it.
356
00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:15,050
My mom didn't understand
why my teeth weren't improving,
357
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:18,680
but it was because
when I got to school, I'd take it off.
358
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,350
So of course at that age,
you really don't want braces.
359
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:27,230
Yeah, but her braces were found
still on her teeth.
360
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:31,730
And for all of their DNA testing,
we have to take their experts at their word,
361
00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:36,240
but anyone can pay an expert
to present false evidence in court.
362
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,750
Even choosing a woman to be prosecutor,
that's so political.
363
00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:47,330
It's just to make him look bad.
364
00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:48,710
It's all a big show.
365
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:51,210
The prosecutor
is with Crown Attorney Services.
366
00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:54,050
She's won four murder trials
since 2018.
367
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,550
I don't think you should underestimate
your opponents.
368
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:08,400
This is good,
but it's expensive for what you get, eh?
369
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:17,950
-What are you playing?
-Not playing, I'm working.
370
00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:22,530
I just won enough
to pay for our lunch. Here.
371
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,370
No, it's okay.
372
00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:28,250
No, it's like new money.
Take it, it's okay.
373
00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:30,830
Well...
374
00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:34,670
Okay.
375
00:35:35,090 --> 00:35:38,220
It's weird, but thanks.
376
00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:49,940
What?
377
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:54,190
You think avocados are gross.
That's funny.
378
00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,900
As for me, I think lawyers are gross!
379
00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:01,370
Take that, shitty Crown Prosecutor!
380
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:13,210
You'd never seen my client
before his arrest, right?
381
00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:14,920
No.
382
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,630
Not in person?
Not on TV, either?
383
00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:18,920
No.
384
00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:20,840
You didn't know him?
385
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,970
No.
386
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:24,640
He didn't live in your neighbourhood?
387
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,850
Not to my knowledge.
388
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:30,270
And your daughter never mentioned him?
389
00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:31,940
No.
390
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:35,940
So to your knowledge,
she'd never met him
391
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:37,990
before the alleged event?
392
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Alleged?
393
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,570
Yes, alleged.
Answer the question.
394
00:36:41,610 --> 00:36:45,530
Had your daughter met this man
before the event?
395
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:48,410
Not to my knowledge.
396
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:52,790
Are you sure?
397
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:58,460
No.
398
00:37:01,010 --> 00:37:02,840
Ms. Beaulieu, any comments?
399
00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:06,260
I'll admit that it's been
a very hard afternoon.
400
00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:11,270
The defence is doing his job,
but it's really hard on the families.
401
00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:15,400
Fortunately, we parents are able
to support each other,
402
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,150
but I'll say it again,
403
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:21,030
we won't find peace
until Chevalier is found guilty
404
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:22,530
and convicted.
405
00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:26,370
We want him to rot in prison
for the rest of his life.
406
00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:28,740
It won't bring our girls back,
407
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:32,120
but it will be a good start.
408
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:35,040
Because we have to remember
our daughters,
409
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,170
our little girls,
Kim Leblanc, Justine Roy
410
00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:41,130
and my little Camille,
Camille Beaulieu.
411
00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:43,470
We have to remember them.
412
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,890
He's garbage.
He's a parasite.
413
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,390
But our daughters had
their whole lives to live.
414
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:51,020
He has to burn in hell.
415
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:54,020
What's it like to see Chevalier
every day?
416
00:37:55,850 --> 00:38:01,610
How would you feel sitting next to
the man who killed your child?
417
00:38:04,570 --> 00:38:07,620
And let me send a message
to his groupies,
418
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,790
the women who support him online,
419
00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:13,290
the women who send him
love letters,
420
00:38:13,330 --> 00:38:16,790
and especially those showing up
in the courtroom every day.
421
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:20,550
We see you,
and you are obscene!
422
00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:23,300
I can't believe you're allowed
to attend the trial
423
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:26,130
alongside the families
of the murdered girls.
424
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:28,350
You're a plague on our lives.
425
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,560
You're spitting
on our daughters' graves.
426
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,770
You should be ashamed.
427
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,820
...that the remains
of 13-year-old Camille Beaulieu
428
00:40:08,860 --> 00:40:12,240
were finally found
after eight months of searching.
429
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,620
But she wasn't alone.
430
00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:20,080
...two other young girls,
Kim Leblanc, age 16,
431
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,830
and Justine Roy, age 14,
432
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,800
were found next to her in the yard
of the former home of Ludovic Chevalier,
433
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,760
the suspect arrested
in relation to these crimes.
434
00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:32,850
The new tenant had no idea
435
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:37,430
that his yard was the resting place
of the three murdered girls.
436
00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:40,100
It's appalling.
We feel terrible.
437
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:42,980
It's appalling, it's unimaginable.
438
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,030
Seriously, I find it repulsive.
And so stressful, too.
439
00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:53,700
But you, at no point did you see
or hear anything?
440
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:57,910
Well, people often come from the woods
to squat here.
441
00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:01,000
It would have to be very loud.
442
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,590
Because people are in the woods
making a lot of noise,
443
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:07,130
and there are train tracks
not far away, too.
444
00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:09,720
There's no shortage of noise here.
445
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:12,760
So I can't say
I heard anything specific.
446
00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:15,890
Do you plan to move
after all that?
447
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:19,730
Well, the killer was found,
448
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:23,690
and I doubt there'll be another killer
burying people in my yard.
449
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:27,610
The rent here is cheap,
it's a nice neighbourhood,
450
00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:29,820
it's a good price for the area.
451
00:41:30,070 --> 00:41:32,450
So no, I'm not moving,
I'll stay here.
452
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:37,990
And Francine Beaulieu, who searched
inexhaustibly for her daughter,
453
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160
this is what she had to say.
454
00:41:41,710 --> 00:41:46,590
I can't imagine that my daughter's life
was ended by that monster.
455
00:41:47,340 --> 00:41:51,170
Just imagining her screams of pain,
her cries for help...
456
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:55,140
It chills my blood.
I can't sleep at night.
457
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,100
Please, I beg you.
458
00:41:59,390 --> 00:42:02,980
If anyone has any information,
please go to the police.
459
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:06,730
I need answers.
I just need to know.
460
00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:10,780
Despite the tragedy
of this macabre discovery,
461
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,780
and despite
all the unanswered questions,
462
00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:18,780
we hope that it will allow
Francine Beaulieu to grieve,
463
00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:22,250
and to turn the page
after all her months of worry.
464
00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,180
I almost didn't recognize you!
465
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:32,010
You're so pretty!
466
00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:35,310
And so tall in your heels!
I'm like a dwarf.
467
00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:36,850
Thanks.
468
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:38,690
It's crazy how pretty you are.
469
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:41,730
If you were blond with blue eyes
and a few years younger,
470
00:47:41,770 --> 00:47:43,980
you'd be exactly
the killer's type.
471
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:45,280
Look out!
472
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:51,580
What are you doing here?
It doesn't resume till Monday.
473
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:54,490
Yeah, but I don't have
a lot of money left,
474
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:57,960
and Montreal hotels cost
an arm and a leg.
475
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,500
Have you eaten today?
476
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,130
Yeah, a bit.
477
00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:05,760
They give out food at a shelter
close to here, it's not bad.
478
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:08,550
And I still have a bit of cash.
479
00:48:08,590 --> 00:48:11,720
I still have that 20 you gave me.
Thanks.
480
00:48:12,050 --> 00:48:14,520
Are you sleeping outside again tonight?
481
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Yeah, but I'm used to camping.
I'll be fine.
482
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,770
It's supposed to be really cold.
483
00:48:20,810 --> 00:48:23,270
Yeah, but I'll dress warm.
484
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:27,990
Well, I won't keep you.
485
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:03,650
What a view!
486
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,030
I had a friend who loved D&D
and LARPing and all that.
487
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:15,200
You like dressing up too, eh?
Admit it!
488
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,920
Okay, but are you, like,
a famous model?
489
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,210
Or a super-rich poker pro?
490
00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:29,300
No. But money is just numbers
inside a computer.
491
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,090
I'm not bad with numbers.
492
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:35,220
What's that noise?
493
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,060
The wind.
494
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:38,970
Oh yeah?
495
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,770
Okay, so you live here,
496
00:49:44,810 --> 00:49:47,980
but you spend all week sleeping
in a back alley?
497
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:50,860
Couldn't you hop a cab
first thing in the morning...
498
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:53,280
Hey, should we order some food?
499
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:57,410
I bet you don't drink alcohol either.
500
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,120
I don't really like the taste of beer.
501
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,410
You just haven't found the right one.
502
00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:04,290
Me too, I didn't used to like beer,
503
00:50:04,330 --> 00:50:06,670
but then a guy in my town
opened a brew pub.
504
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:08,170
It makes a huge difference.
505
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:11,050
If you come to visit,
you can try some different kinds.
506
00:50:11,090 --> 00:50:12,800
We'll find one that you like!
507
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,380
And where's your town?
508
00:50:14,430 --> 00:50:16,390
I'm from Thetford.
Know where that is?
509
00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:19,600
Yeah. But how did you get here?
510
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:22,770
I hitchhiked to Quebec City,
511
00:50:22,810 --> 00:50:26,980
and I was lucky, the guy dropped me off
right at the bus station.
512
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:29,360
And then I took the bus
to Montreal.
513
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:37,990
Eh? You have that?
514
00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:41,200
Yeah.
Say something, she will answer you.
515
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,210
Her name is “Guenièvre”?
516
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:46,630
You didn't pick an easy name
to pronounce!
517
00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:48,130
You just say "Guenièvre"
518
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:50,340
and then you ask what you want
in English.
519
00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,920
In English?
520
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,130
I'm not great at English.
521
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,550
No, it's okay. I don't need to.
522
00:50:59,010 --> 00:51:02,350
But really,
she hears everything, your Guenièvre?
523
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:05,190
Yeah, she hears everything
and sees everything.
524
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:07,230
I have no secrets from her.
525
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:10,940
Okay, but isn't it a bit sketchy
to have that?
526
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:13,530
Don't those things spy on you?
527
00:51:14,110 --> 00:51:18,570
Yeah, it would be dumb to let it run
on the default cloud settings.
528
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:20,530
And that's what everyone does.
529
00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:22,740
But mine is custom-programmed.
530
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:27,420
The AI was trained on sites like
Wikipedia, Google, Reddit, all that,
531
00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:31,250
but I did a lot of feedback work
to improve her personality.
532
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:34,340
For example, if you were to ask...
533
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:43,430
At the start, she said that I should.
534
00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:45,600
And she said loads of racist shit,
535
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,650
because that's what happens when you let
an AI wander around the internet.
536
00:51:49,690 --> 00:51:51,730
So yeah, mine is intelligent,
537
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:56,070
and it functions off-site on servers
powered by my computer GPU.
538
00:51:56,110 --> 00:51:58,660
That means she's really impenetrable.
539
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:05,200
And you don't like wine either?
540
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,870
It's okay. I like champagne better,
it has fewer calories.
541
00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:11,710
Yeah.
542
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:13,800
What?
543
00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:18,590
I won't drink anything
other than champagne!
544
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:36,490
Can she tell a joke?
545
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:38,740
I dunno. Probably.
546
00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:14,230
Hello ladies and gents
and everyone in between!
547
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:17,110
Welcome to
More Catholic Than The Pope!
548
00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:24,280
Your late night show with no filters,
where no subject is taboo.
549
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,950
This is where we discuss
current hot topics,
550
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:31,620
and as always, we're here live
with our amazing audience!
551
00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:39,590
And this week, everyone knows
what we're going to talk about.
552
00:53:39,630 --> 00:53:42,130
It's the hottest topic of the moment:
553
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:45,260
the start
of the Ludovic Chevalier trial.
554
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,810
Oh! I loved his last album!
555
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:52,100
We're talking about the murderer.
556
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:54,190
Wait, so he's not going on tour?
557
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:57,020
Okay, it's gonna go well tonight.
558
00:53:57,070 --> 00:53:59,360
Because unless you live under a rock,
559
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,570
it's impossible to avoid it.
560
00:54:01,610 --> 00:54:04,360
On the one hand,
Montreal's making a name for itself!
561
00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:09,160
On the other hand, we'd rather be famous
for our hockey team than for this.
562
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:12,410
But let's get started!
We'll start with you.
563
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:16,670
We invited you because you're
a beautiful, young blond with blue eyes.
564
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:19,960
Just like our Demon of Rosemont
likes them.
565
00:54:20,010 --> 00:54:21,840
Yeah, it's true.
566
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:26,390
It's not a comfortable type to embody.
I don't walk around alone at night.
567
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,180
You want to spend
the whole show on this,
568
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:30,770
but where's the debate?
569
00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:34,390
I know the trial is just starting,
but Chevalier is guilty.
570
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,270
I don't know why the defence
is trying to say it wasn't him.
571
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,190
He's crazy, he's guilty, he got caught.
That's it, life in prison!
572
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:48,030
What I find the most fascinating
and morbid
573
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,290
is the whole dark web thing.
574
00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:52,160
That's really disgusting.
575
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,080
Getting off on filming himself
doing that
576
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,670
is already pretty messed in the head.
577
00:54:58,130 --> 00:55:00,920
But even worse,
there are people watching,
578
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,300
signing up and paying to see it.
579
00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:06,050
We gotta hunt them down
and lock them up with him.
580
00:55:06,090 --> 00:55:10,510
He's starting up a training ground
for future killers in Quebec!
581
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680
But that's what makes it so fascinating.
582
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,730
This guy was working alone
583
00:55:14,770 --> 00:55:18,190
and he was able to build up
a profitable virtual network.
584
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:21,110
It was super planned,
very calculated.
585
00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:24,820
Well, a lot of people start businesses
out of their garage.
586
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:26,700
I'm just saying!
587
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,990
Yuck, yuck, yuck.
588
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,580
That's my cue to invite you to call in!
589
00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:35,000
If you want to be heard
on the subject,
590
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,960
the number is on the screen.
591
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
And what about our studio audience here?
592
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,750
Does anyone have a comment?
593
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,880
Yes ma'am, go ahead.
594
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,340
I have a 15-year-old daughter,
so I'm reeling.
595
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:49,340
What kind of world do we live in?
We've lost our morals.
596
00:55:49,390 --> 00:55:53,310
I almost want to reinstate
the death penalty in cases like this.
597
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:58,520
He shouldn't spend his life in prison,
like at a hotel on the taxpayers' dime.
598
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:00,730
You've got some nuance there!
599
00:56:00,770 --> 00:56:02,400
Some serious grey area.
600
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,150
Let's see if our listeners at home
are also in the grey area.
601
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:08,410
What are you doing?
602
00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:11,450
Hello, your name and your comment?
603
00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:13,200
Hello, I'm Clementine.
604
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,540
I really disagree
with what they're saying.
605
00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:17,000
Will you hold please?
606
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,750
-Clementine, hang up.
-I'm on hold.
607
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:23,130
-Clementine, you're up next.
-Thanks.
608
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,470
You're live in three seconds...
609
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,390
Our second voice from the heavens.
Who's there?
610
00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:31,470
Clem, hang up!
611
00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:36,680
Hello, I'm Clementine.
612
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:40,520
Hello Clementine.
What do you want to tell us?
613
00:56:42,810 --> 00:56:44,190
Are you there?
614
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,860
Yeah. I think...
615
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:50,610
You think you're there?
616
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:55,290
I think you should all be ashamed
617
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:57,330
to talk about Ludovic like that.
618
00:56:57,370 --> 00:57:00,670
You weren't at the trial,
you don't know what you're talking about.
619
00:57:00,710 --> 00:57:02,630
You're just spouting bullshit.
620
00:57:03,250 --> 00:57:06,090
What exactly are you trying to say?
621
00:57:06,130 --> 00:57:09,970
In Canada, a suspect is innocent
until proven guilty, as far as I know.
622
00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:13,220
According to Section 11-D
of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,
623
00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:16,970
anyone has the right to be
presumed innocent until proven guilty
624
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:20,350
by an independent
and impartial tribunal in a fair trial.
625
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:22,860
And that trial is happening
at the courthouse,
626
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,940
not on your shitty show
with your brainwashed guests.
627
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:29,440
You'll see, in the end,
justice will be served
628
00:57:29,490 --> 00:57:32,160
and Ludovic will be found not guilty!
629
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:39,710
You mean she's into that lunatic,
and I'm the one who's still single?
630
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:42,170
Hold on a sec, everyone.
631
00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:46,750
Clementine, you truly believe
that Ludovic Chevalier is innocent.
632
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,430
But did you see the images in the media
taken from the snuff videos?
633
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:54,800
Under the mask, we can clearly tell
that it's Ludovic,
634
00:57:54,850 --> 00:57:56,390
we can see his blue eyes...
635
00:57:56,430 --> 00:57:58,430
You mean the images taken from a video
636
00:57:58,470 --> 00:58:00,850
that no one has seen,
that just appeared one day,
637
00:58:00,890 --> 00:58:03,850
that anyone with basic competence
in Photoshop can fake?
638
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:05,060
Yeah, I've seen them.
639
00:58:05,110 --> 00:58:08,400
Hold on a sec. Clementine.
640
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,610
Message me privately, okay?
I can see that you need to talk...
641
00:58:11,650 --> 00:58:13,030
I don't need your pity!
642
00:58:13,070 --> 00:58:16,660
You're having your one-sided debate,
and I say it's bullshit!
643
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:19,620
You're just spouting nonsense
to boost your viewership,
644
00:58:19,660 --> 00:58:21,460
and it's bullshit!
645
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,540
That was weird.
646
00:58:27,590 --> 00:58:30,800
I think she has several pharmacists
working with her!
647
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,140
Tomorrow, that girl will be a meme.
I can see it already.
648
00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:36,850
But really, poor girl.
649
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:40,890
Clementine, I truly hope
that you're able to spend
650
00:58:40,930 --> 00:58:43,600
a lot of time with your therapist.
651
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,270
Call us back
when you're back on earth, okay?
652
00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:47,860
We're back after the break!
653
00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:41,080
That little shop down on the first floor
had everything I wanted!
654
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,500
Here. It's not much,
but it's my contribution.
655
00:59:43,540 --> 00:59:46,790
To thank you for letting me stay here.
656
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:50,540
You don't drink coffee,
so I got some juice, okay?
657
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,550
It's not just sugar, it contains
all the Vitamin C you need in a day.
658
00:59:54,590 --> 00:59:57,550
But don't worry if you don't want it,
I can go get...
659
00:59:57,590 --> 00:59:59,930
No, it's fine.
It's perfect, thanks.
660
01:00:02,180 --> 01:00:06,350
I'm not an amazing cook,
but I can make eggs pretty good.
661
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,100
I'll make you some, okay?
662
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:24,950
You know,
663
01:00:25,870 --> 01:00:27,540
I'm not crazy.
664
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,670
You and me,
665
01:00:34,170 --> 01:00:36,050
we're not crazy, right?
666
01:00:40,090 --> 01:00:42,720
But it's pretty heavy, anyway.
667
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:48,560
It's his eyes.
668
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:50,980
His eyes don't lie.
669
01:00:57,070 --> 01:00:59,070
Thanks, Kelly-Anne.
670
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,070
I'm lucky you're here.
671
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:12,290
Sorry.
672
01:01:13,090 --> 01:01:15,750
I'm all messed up,
always crying like this.
673
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,300
I'm an idiot.
674
01:01:20,050 --> 01:01:21,680
Do you cry sometimes?
675
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:26,970
When I'm feeling unstable,
you know what helps?
676
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:34,360
Don't be scared. When it's coming,
hit it before it drops.
677
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,900
And hold your racket up high.
678
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,240
Okay, I'm sending it.
679
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:42,070
Go on!
680
01:01:42,110 --> 01:01:45,450
Seriously, I suck at this.
You'd have more fun alone.
681
01:01:45,490 --> 01:01:48,330
I'm not alone,
I'm with you and it's nice.
682
01:01:48,370 --> 01:01:51,620
So watch the ball,
and stay parallel with the wall.
683
01:01:57,250 --> 01:01:59,760
-Not bad.
-I suck at this kind of thing.
684
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880
No, it's okay. It's fine, Clem.
685
01:02:01,930 --> 01:02:04,640
Look, hold up your racket like this.
686
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,720
I can't believe you bought me a racket.
687
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,890
I wanted to! And that's the point,
we're playing together!
688
01:02:10,930 --> 01:02:14,020
Keep your wrist straight,
so it's firm here.
689
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:18,230
Watch the ball.
690
01:02:19,690 --> 01:02:20,900
And go for it!
691
01:02:21,450 --> 01:02:22,450
Almost.
692
01:02:24,030 --> 01:02:26,700
But don't bend down.
Stand tall.
693
01:02:28,540 --> 01:02:29,910
Okay, here we go.
694
01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:32,370
Right there.
695
01:02:32,410 --> 01:02:33,670
Almost!
696
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,250
It's okay!
697
01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:41,510
-Okay?
-Yeah.
698
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:45,180
And... now!
Yeah!
699
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,310
And now!
700
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:51,270
-Yeah!
-I'm not too bad!
701
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:55,150
And now! Yes!
702
01:02:58,610 --> 01:02:59,940
That's great.
703
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:09,240
-Why do you always fold?
-It's a question of probability.
704
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:11,870
See, there are still three people in,
705
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:15,420
but statistically, with my hand,
chances were slim that I'd win it.
706
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:19,040
So I minimize my losses
by folding as soon as possible.
707
01:03:19,090 --> 01:03:22,920
But it must piss you off
when the card you needed comes up.
708
01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:25,680
Yeah, but it's part of the game.
It happens.
709
01:03:27,340 --> 01:03:31,100
When you play a lot,
you learn not to count on luck.
710
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,060
That's for casual players.
711
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:37,150
Playing pro,
you learn that poker isn't about luck.
712
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:39,570
And you can't use your emotions either.
713
01:03:39,610 --> 01:03:43,070
You have to find emotional players
and exploit them.
714
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,200
You take your time, you're patient,
and you bleed them dry.
715
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,530
That's what I love,
seeing them lose everything.
716
01:03:50,580 --> 01:03:52,700
Shit, you're evil.
717
01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:55,910
That's the game!
718
01:04:16,350 --> 01:04:17,980
Good night, Kelly-Anne.
719
01:06:11,380 --> 01:06:14,140
It's the 12th day
of the Chevalier trial,
720
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:18,020
and today we'll see the troubling videos
seized by the FBI,
721
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:21,640
the main evidence
that led to Ludovic Chevalier's arrest.
722
01:06:21,690 --> 01:06:25,110
We'll see the masked suspect
wearing surgical gloves
723
01:06:25,150 --> 01:06:29,110
to torture the young victims,
Kim Leblanc and Justine Roy,
724
01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:33,490
before ending their lives
and dismembering their bodies.
725
01:06:33,530 --> 01:06:38,330
The jury was warned that they'd see
the videos in the third week.
726
01:06:38,660 --> 01:06:39,750
That is now.
727
01:06:39,790 --> 01:06:42,500
We learned only minutes ago
that this morning,
728
01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:45,790
the two videos will be shown
in their entirety.
729
01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:48,250
The first is 28 minutes long,
730
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:50,880
the second one will last 31 minutes.
731
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:56,010
You can imagine that this will be
a hard day at the Montreal Courthouse.
732
01:06:56,050 --> 01:07:00,310
During the jury selection process,
care was taken to ascertain
733
01:07:00,350 --> 01:07:04,440
whether each candidate would be able
to absorb these kinds of images.
734
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,650
They all stated that they were,
735
01:07:06,690 --> 01:07:10,940
but what of the families of the victims
in the courtroom today?
736
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:21,660
Your Honour,
due to the extremely sensitive nature
737
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:25,040
of the evidence presented today,
738
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,000
both parties have agreed in advance
to request a closed viewing.
739
01:07:33,630 --> 01:07:37,640
Except for any of the victim's parents
who wish to stay.
740
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:45,440
Request granted, Attorney Chedid.
741
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,310
Anyone who is not directly involved
in this case
742
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,570
is asked to leave the room
immediately.
743
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:57,410
Seriously?
744
01:08:28,690 --> 01:08:32,650
We will start with the video
of Kim Leblanc...
745
01:08:32,690 --> 01:08:34,570
Clem, come on, let's go.
746
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,560
My god, it's horrible.
747
01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:06,140
-I hope they find who really did it.
-Yeah.
748
01:09:06,180 --> 01:09:07,270
Come on, let's go.
749
01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:09,690
Hold on, I wanna know
if we hear his voice.
750
01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:12,650
No, we don't hear it.
Come on, Clem.
751
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:14,440
How do you know?
752
01:09:16,690 --> 01:09:18,320
Kelly-Anne?
753
01:09:18,820 --> 01:09:20,070
How do you know?
754
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,910
What the fuck, Kelly-Anne!
755
01:09:25,950 --> 01:09:29,160
Trust me, you shouldn't see them, okay?
That's all.
756
01:09:29,210 --> 01:09:32,210
After all this time,
you'd already seen them?
757
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,210
Why didn't you tell me?
758
01:09:34,250 --> 01:09:36,840
I dunno.
The subject never came up.
759
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:40,800
The subject never came up?
This is the subject, Kelly-Anne!
760
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,100
It's not your world.
You shouldn't see them. That's all.
761
01:09:44,140 --> 01:09:46,560
How did you see them?
762
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,810
I know where to look.
763
01:09:48,850 --> 01:09:50,600
-Even Camille's?
-No, no.
764
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,190
It's not accessible. No.
765
01:09:53,730 --> 01:09:55,610
But you have the other two?
766
01:09:57,730 --> 01:10:01,200
Who are you? You can't do that!
It's illegal, you can be arrested.
767
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,870
Exactly. You shouldn't...
768
01:10:02,910 --> 01:10:04,030
Move away!
769
01:10:26,140 --> 01:10:27,810
I want to see them.
770
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,810
Kelly-Anne, it's important.
I have to see them.
771
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,660
You sure?
772
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,530
You can see his eyes there.
773
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:30,790
No.
774
01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:34,830
See how he walks?
775
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:38,500
The way he moves,
with his long arms.
776
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:48,350
Here he's going to look
right at the camera.
777
01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:50,720
Right now.
778
01:12:30,510 --> 01:12:32,310
-The second one...
-Hold on.
779
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,640
Um, Kelly-Anne...
780
01:14:40,020 --> 01:14:42,560
I don't think I'll sleep here tonight.
781
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:48,400
I'm going back to the bus station and
782
01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:51,360
I'm going home.
783
01:14:56,830 --> 01:14:58,490
I'm sorry.
784
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,790
Say something.
785
01:15:08,590 --> 01:15:10,340
It's your life.
786
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,520
I really don't know
why you were so nice to me,
787
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:22,430
but thanks, I'll pay you back.
788
01:15:22,810 --> 01:15:24,980
How?
789
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:40,410
Keep it, it's yours.
790
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:46,960
But Kelly-Anne,
there's a thing I don't understand.
791
01:15:48,130 --> 01:15:50,420
Why are you here?
792
01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:59,850
Bye Kelly-Anne...
793
01:16:35,970 --> 01:16:39,930
...Tor is an acronym,
T-O-R for The Onion Router.
794
01:16:39,970 --> 01:16:44,810
The onion is a symbol used to refer
to the network’s infrastructure,
795
01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:51,020
built as a network of successive layers
that protect our anonymity online.
796
01:16:51,770 --> 01:16:54,650
Some of the sites are only accessible
797
01:16:54,690 --> 01:16:58,360
via the Tor network, which are called
"hidden services".
798
01:16:58,410 --> 01:17:01,120
These sites can be identified
by their web address,
799
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,410
which ends in .onion
rather than .org or .net.
800
01:17:04,450 --> 01:17:07,500
So these .onion sites belong
to the dark web
801
01:17:07,540 --> 01:17:11,130
and are only accessible
through the Tor network.
802
01:17:11,170 --> 01:17:16,010
And are these tools accessible
and free for all to use?
803
01:17:16,260 --> 01:17:21,010
Yeah, it's a tool that's legal
in most countries, including Canada,
804
01:17:21,050 --> 01:17:25,560
and it can be easily downloaded for free
on the Tor website.
805
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,310
And do they harbour illegal activities?
806
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:31,310
Yes, illegal activities happen
on the Tor network,
807
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,320
but they also happen all over the internet.
It's not exclusive to Tor.
808
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,400
The fact is that Tor doesn't exist
to facilitate illegal activities,
809
01:17:39,450 --> 01:17:42,820
it exists to protect the privacy
of its users.
810
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:48,710
There's a global community of hackers,
journalists, dissidents and activists
811
01:17:48,750 --> 01:17:52,420
that really need Tor
to protect their basic freedoms,
812
01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:58,340
and to access information in countries
where information is strictly monitored.
813
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:01,550
And what about red rooms?
814
01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:07,350
Firstly, are they technically possible
in the dark web environment?
815
01:18:07,390 --> 01:18:12,190
Yes, a red room is technically possible
on the Tor network.
816
01:18:12,230 --> 01:18:14,570
For a long time,
we didn't believe it was,
817
01:18:14,610 --> 01:18:17,570
simply because navigation speeds
on Tor are much slower
818
01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:21,240
due to the strategies it uses
to ensure anonymity.
819
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:25,620
But in the last few years,
speeds have increased to the point
820
01:18:25,660 --> 01:18:31,420
that live-streaming has become possible,
with certain constraints.
821
01:18:31,870 --> 01:18:38,010
The money transfers can be done
with cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin.
822
01:18:38,050 --> 01:18:41,840
They don't even need the Tor network
to transfer those funds.
823
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,720
But it's important to note
that the Chevalier case
824
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,470
is the first documented red room
825
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:51,270
offered as a hidden service
on the Tor network.
826
01:18:51,310 --> 01:18:53,600
Of course, it is highly illegal
827
01:18:53,650 --> 01:18:58,070
to either produce or consume
this kind of material.
828
01:18:58,110 --> 01:19:05,030
How do the authorities intercept
illegal activities on the dark web?
829
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:09,160
When you navigate on the Tor network,
you're anonymous.
830
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,920
But the agents investigating cyber crimes
are also basically hackers.
831
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,920
They employ very sophisticated
digital technology
832
01:19:17,170 --> 01:19:20,260
and spend a lot of time
trying to find out user identities.
833
01:19:20,300 --> 01:19:23,880
So if you use the Tor network
for illegal purposes,
834
01:19:23,930 --> 01:19:26,510
there's a good chance
that someone's on your tail
835
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:30,810
and that any digital security error
you make will be used against you.
836
01:19:30,850 --> 01:19:33,940
And to err is human.
Everyone ends up making them.
837
01:24:00,370 --> 01:24:03,290
- Hold on a minute.
- Step back, ma'am.
838
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:22,810
Have a good day.
839
01:24:47,790 --> 01:24:50,750
Where's your friend?
We want to ask her a few questions.
840
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:53,170
Or maybe you'd make a statement for us?
841
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,880
Hi Lucie. You good?
842
01:25:31,210 --> 01:25:33,130
Hi lovely. You okay?
843
01:25:33,670 --> 01:25:36,340
Yeah, I'm just getting ready.
844
01:25:36,380 --> 01:25:38,880
I'll be there at 1PM as planned.
845
01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:42,050
You didn't get the email
from this morning?
846
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:46,980
No. I've been unplugging a bit lately,
I didn't see it.
847
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:48,890
What's up?
848
01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:52,190
Yeah, well, the shoot is off.
849
01:25:55,190 --> 01:25:58,030
-You there?
-Yeah.
850
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:59,910
What do you mean, it's off?
851
01:25:59,950 --> 01:26:01,870
It's been rescheduled?
852
01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:05,370
No, there's a shoot this afternoon,
but they cancelled you.
853
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:08,870
They found a replacement.
I'm sorry.
854
01:26:10,420 --> 01:26:11,630
Okay...
855
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,630
I don't get it.
Are they allowed to do that?
856
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,880
Why did you let them do that?
857
01:26:17,130 --> 01:26:19,130
Kelly-Anne, I stood up for you,
858
01:26:19,170 --> 01:26:22,890
you’re always professional,
never a problem. But people talk.
859
01:26:22,930 --> 01:26:26,100
They found out some stuff
that made them skittish.
860
01:26:26,350 --> 01:26:28,560
I know that your brand is edgy,
861
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,350
but there's edgy, and then there's edgy,
you know?
862
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,940
Okay, but tell them I'll do it pro bono.
I'm okay with that, I'll do it.
863
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:38,530
Would that work?
864
01:26:38,570 --> 01:26:39,860
Kelly-Anne, forget it!
865
01:26:39,900 --> 01:26:43,160
I know it's your private life,
but it's pretty weird.
866
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,370
These companies don't take risks.
In doubt, they kick you out.
867
01:26:49,250 --> 01:26:50,710
It's serious, Kelly-Anne.
868
01:26:50,750 --> 01:26:53,460
They told me they took you down
off their website.
869
01:26:57,300 --> 01:26:58,840
Sorry, babe.
870
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,550
-But you know, maybe you should...
-Took me down?
871
01:27:03,090 --> 01:27:05,220
Take some time, okay?
872
01:27:05,890 --> 01:27:07,600
Talk soon.
873
01:27:08,350 --> 01:27:10,020
Ciao, bella.
874
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,200
{\an8}Tomorrow is the start of week four
of the Chevalier trial.
875
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,200
{\an8}And tomorrow, October 3,
will be a very particular day,
876
01:28:12,250 --> 01:28:15,290
one that many have been dreading
since the trial began.
877
01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:19,960
It's the birthday of the man
called the Demon of Rosemont.
878
01:28:20,340 --> 01:28:25,090
Ludovic Chevalier, born on
October 3, 1982, will turn 40 tomorrow.
879
01:28:25,340 --> 01:28:29,600
It's a notable day that threatens
to destabilize the families involved.
880
01:29:00,420 --> 01:29:03,380
Can you empty your pocket?
881
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:20,020
It's okay.
882
01:31:19,310 --> 01:31:20,810
All rise, please.
883
01:31:20,850 --> 01:31:23,350
The Superior Court of Quebec
is now in session,
884
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,900
presided by the Honourable
Marcel Godbout.
885
01:31:25,940 --> 01:31:29,150
Please ensure that your cell phones
are turned off.
886
01:31:29,190 --> 01:31:30,740
You may be seated.
887
01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:40,830
Ma'am, follow me please.
888
01:31:42,290 --> 01:31:43,540
Ma'am?
889
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,130
Hello Kelly-Anne.
890
01:32:35,180 --> 01:32:37,550
Look, you've crossed the line.
891
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:39,850
The media has been calling you crazy.
892
01:32:39,890 --> 01:32:42,850
We have no choice
but to break our contract with you.
893
01:32:42,890 --> 01:32:45,390
We can't be associated with that.
894
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,810
Maybe you should talk to someone.
895
01:32:47,860 --> 01:32:50,690
Anyway, we're thinking of you.
Ciao.
896
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:11,650
I won't stop fighting.
897
01:34:11,690 --> 01:34:16,150
I'm asking anyone who has any
information to contact the authorities.
898
01:34:16,570 --> 01:34:20,030
It's been months since
I was able to sleep soundly at night.
899
01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:23,120
I won't sleep until I know
what happened to my daughter.
900
01:51:58,130 --> 01:52:01,220
{\an8}Today, the fate of Ludovic Chevalier
will be decided.
901
01:52:01,260 --> 01:52:04,470
{\an8}In a completely unexpected
turn of events,
902
01:52:04,510 --> 01:52:08,270
{\an8}the accused ended up pleading guilty
to the charges laid against him.
903
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:11,350
{\an8}This after the initial trial
was aborted part-way through
904
01:52:11,390 --> 01:52:16,360
{\an8}when striking new evidence
was given anonymously to the police.
905
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:21,110
{\an8}Among the evidence were cryptocurrency
trails directly linked to Chevalier,
906
01:52:21,150 --> 01:52:24,820
{\an8}along with the murder video
of 13-year-old Camille Beaulieu,
907
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:31,000
{\an8}in which experts were able to identify
Chevalier with even more certainty.
908
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:35,080
{\an8}It's over for the defendant,
who has just pleaded guilty.
909
01:52:35,130 --> 01:52:37,540
{\an8}Ludovic Chevalier
is going to prison,
910
01:52:37,590 --> 01:52:41,300
{\an8}which may bring some peace of mind
to the families of the victims.
911
01:52:41,340 --> 01:52:45,720
{\an8}I'm Virginie Rivard for TVN
at the Montreal Courthouse.
912
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,310
After the break,
a never-seen-before interview
913
01:52:48,350 --> 01:52:51,060
with a former groupie
of Ludovic Chevalier,
914
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:54,310
a woman who claims to have been
totally in love with him.
915
01:52:54,350 --> 01:52:56,020
It's fairly disturbing.
916
01:52:56,060 --> 01:52:58,690
Here's a taste.
Stay with us.
917
01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:03,740
I saw something soft
in his gaze.
918
01:53:04,740 --> 01:53:06,620
Something beautiful.
919
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,660
There was a sadness in him
that maybe touched me.
920
01:53:15,210 --> 01:53:17,880
It's been really tough.
921
01:53:20,340 --> 01:53:23,670
But I'm really trying
to get Ludovic out of my head.
922
01:53:25,630 --> 01:53:26,930
And
923
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,220
my thoughts are now
with the victims.
924
01:53:36,060 --> 01:53:37,730
Rest in peace.
70978
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