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ERIK: As we survey
just over the east field here
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and in the vicinity
of the triangle...
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All right, we're going.
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...we want to understand
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whether we're dealing with
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a persistent effect
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in those two regions
of the ranch.
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-PETE: What?
-TRAVIS: We are getting
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an anomaly in the air right now.
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You were at 300 feet
and were detecting
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-an object.
-PETE: You're kidding?
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I don't know why, but I feel
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really nervous about this.
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We're getting buffeted
from the wind a little bit.
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Whoa, whoa.
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We're getting our asses kicked.
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The helicopter just...
just moved.
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Whatever it was,
it was trying to push us off.
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BRANDON:
What could that be?
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It tends to have a shape to it.
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BRANDON:
Oh, my gosh, this is crazy.
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THOMAS:
You guys caught
something amazing.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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THOMAS:
Oh, yeah. They're here.
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Hey, guys.
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TRAVIS:
After our experiments last week
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above the triangle
and over the east field,
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where we detected anomalies
300 feet in the air
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and Brandon's helicopter
was pushed around
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by some kind
of invisible force...
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Man, you got
a big crew with you.
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...we invited the team
from Sky Elements
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out to the ranch to see
if they could help us
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verify and also identify
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just what could be happening
in those two areas.
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KALEB:
We got Preston,
Tyler, and the team.
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Welcome to the Skinwalker Ranch.
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Thanks. Love to be here.
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TRAVIS: Now, unfortunately,
Pete Kelsey was afraid
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that his lidar scanner may
not have gotten accurate data.
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So here we are,
over the east field,
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and there's where
I said, you know what,
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we've got an anomaly
in this spot again.
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PETE:
Be advised,
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the vendor looked at this
and went, "Oh, you're ghosting,"
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and to cut to the chase,
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I don't think this
is 100% conclusive
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in either direction.
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I-I agree with that.
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Something was clearly happening
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to the helicopter
in both locations.
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So now we're hoping
that Sky Elements
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can run a safer and much
more comprehensive scan
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over the triangle
and the east field
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with their cutting-edge
drone technology
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to get us better data
and hopefully some answers.
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I was going to ask
how much homework
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you guys have done on
this before you said yes.
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PRESTON: Very little.
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We've flown in a lot of,
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you know, complex locations,
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so we're looking
forward to it.
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Tell 'em, Pete.
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I've lost three drones here.
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One over the triangle,
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where we'll be flying tonight.
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ERIK:
It's worth mentioning that
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during some of our
helicopter exercises, also,
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we've had unusual, um,
air current patterns.
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There was a lot of buffeting of
the helicopter during our study
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of this anomaly
that we're talking about
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in the vicinity of the triangle,
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so you might see the drones
struggling to maintain position.
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THOMAS:
I don't think we've ever
brought expert on
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where their equipment
has operated
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the way that it
was designed to operate,
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and so if you have
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malfunctions, we need to know.
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Why don't you tell us
a little bit about Sky Elements
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and what you guys do?
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So, we take, you know,
100, 200 drones,
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or even a thousand drones,
and make a synchronized swarm
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to make all kinds of images
or shapes or anything like that.
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I brought Kyle and
Tyler out here with me
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to help manage everything
and get this going today.
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Very cool.
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We've been wanting to fly
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a pattern of drones,
uh, over certain
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anomalies that we have.
We have two specific anomalies.
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The east field
and the one at the triangle.
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And the first place we want
to start is the triangle.
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The idea of the experiment
is to take Sky Elements' drones,
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which are typically
used for huge light shows,
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and launch them over
the triangle and the east field
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to watch their
illuminated formations
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against the night sky.
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That will make it easy
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to see any deviations in
their preprogrammed patterns
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and hopefully determine
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the exact location
of the anomalies
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that we encountered last week,
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about 300 feet in the air.
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The team from Sky Elements
will fly the illuminated swarm
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of 200 drones in
a huge rectangular formation
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over both locations,
starting with the triangle.
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Erik is going to put GPS
devices on the four drones
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placed at each
corner of the swarm.
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This will help us monitor
the drones' exact position
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above our target areas
during the experiment,
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so if anything pushes
the drones out of formation,
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or if something even
crazier happens to them,
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those GPS trackers
will hopefully help us
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pinpoint the location
of any anomalies
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and figure out
what they could be.
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PETE:
I will be watching you from
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the ground with
a terrestrial laser scanner,
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so we will have
visual and forensic
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point cloud data of your
every move when we're done.
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TRAVIS:
So how many drones
did you bring
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-with you tonight?
-PRESTON: We brought
200 with us.
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200, and we're going to
be able to fly them all at once?
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-Absolutely.
-TRAVIS: All right, cool.
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In addition to the GPS data
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we're recording during
the drone experiment,
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Pete Kelsey is going to conduct
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expansive ground-based
3D lidar scans
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with what's known as
a terrestrial scanner.
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It emits infrared laser light
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that will create a detailed
map of the target areas,
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and at the same time,
can help identify anomalies
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that the naked eye
isn't able to see.
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One more thing, uh,
once we get out there,
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I kind of want to see
what your flight plan is
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'cause I... also,
we're going to launch
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a couple of rockets tonight,
and I need to make sure
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we launch the rockets in
a place where the recovery
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and the launch is going
to be completely safe
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form-from your flight path.
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Absolutely.
Once we get over there,
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-I can show you all that.
-All right.
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Well, I suggest we get out there
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and get all set up.
We're losing daylight.
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TRAVIS:
Let's do it.
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THOMAS:
The opportunity
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to bring drones out here
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and put them up in the air
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is something I'm really
excited to witness.
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We have a big job ahead of us.
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I mean, this is a big setup,
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and it requires a lot of people
to make it work successfully.
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-MAN: All right, ready?
-TRAVIS: We got to start
getting your stuff out
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and lets figure out
where you got to be.
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THOMAS:
It's going to be interesting
to see if these drones
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can keep their position,
and if they don't
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start falling out of the sky
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like we've seen
with other drones.
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TRAVIS:
Which way do they go? Like that?
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While we were getting
everything set up
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at the triangle
for the drone experiment...
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TOM: Okay.
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TRAVIS: ...nearby, ranch manager
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Jim Morse, along
with ranch caretakers
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Kandus Linde and Tom Lewis...
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-Hey.
-How you doing?
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TRAVIS:
...were meeting
with Lloyd Arrive,
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a DJ at Native
Voltage Rez Radio.
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Over the last four years,
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we've found that
bizarre things happen
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outside the boundaries
of Skinwalker Ranch,
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and Brandon Fugal had
recently heard from Lloyd
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that he had quite
a story to share
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about a place
known as Bottle Hollow.
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It's a reservoir about
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a mile north of the ranch
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where a lot of strange phenomena
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have been reported in the past
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by local residents.
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KANDUS: So, how long
have you lived out here?
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LLOYD: Well, I lived here
when I was a little kid
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with my grandpa and grandma.
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So you're Ute?
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I'm Ute. Yeah. I'm Northern Ute.
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I'm Uncompahgre,
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-Northern Ute.
-JIM: Okay, fantastic.
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So, you understand the genealogy
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or the lineage here associated
with the Navajo and the Ute,
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and the Navajo cursing
the ground out here and...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, uh, just...
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You know,
the stories that goes on
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with the... with the Natives
or with the Utes around here.
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The lore of the skinwalker
really initiated
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back in the mid-1800s.
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This is when the Navajo
and the Utes
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got into...
more than a skirmish.
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The Navajos ended up cursing
the Utes with the skinwalker,
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a transformation
of a human being
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into an animal form.
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Some Native Americans
don't talk about it
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because they don't want
that curse put on them.
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So there's a level,
not only of just respect,
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but fear of this lore.
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Well, we over there at
the, uh, Skinwalker Ranch
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are very respectful.
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We're out here as guests,
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and so we appreciate
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any kind of feedback
that you can give us.
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-Yeah.
-So, it's my understanding
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that you got some photographs
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to show us that you captured
over by Bottle Hollow?
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Yes, I did, and, uh,
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I created an event
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that I set up on Bottle
Hollow and played music
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on a Fourth of July weekend.
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We were, um, tearing
down the equipment,
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and this lady that lives on the
other side of the lake there,
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she invited us
to go get some food.
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So, we were on our way down,
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and we noticed the, uh,
noticed the, uh,
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canopy up there.
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It was a quick snap.
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We noticed that dot, you know,
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-on top of it.
-JIM: Oh, wow.
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LLOYD:
But it didn't come toward us,
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it just went around,
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and it headed
towards the Skinwalker.
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Wow.
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JIM:
Amazing.
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And it was up there,
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and that's where it hovered.
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Went back and forth,
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and then finally
it just disappeared.
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TOM:
Did it make any sound
that you could hear?
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LLOYD:
No, no, no. It's not a plane,
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it's not a helicopter,
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it's just a...
an object that's up there.
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JIM:
That's pretty profound.
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We see those
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from time to time
over on Skinwalker.
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Yeah.
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TOM:
I look at this photo
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he brings up on his computer
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and immediately you can see
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this is a UAP of some sort.
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And it's very similar
to the one that we saw
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right above the cow that died
on the ranch four years ago.
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So, connections like this
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that we're looking for
in the surrounding community
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may help us with
the investigation on the ranch.
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So, when you took this
photograph, you were what,
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maybe a quarter mile
away from the lake?
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-LLOYD: Yeah, yeah.
-From Bottle Hollow?
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-Yeah.
-KANDUS: You said
it was Sunday morning.
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Was it in the morning?
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It was in the afternoon.
It was the afternoon...
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-Huh.
-...that-that it was there.
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Is there anything else
that you've seen
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in this area
around Bottle Hollow?
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Yeah.
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One night we were
coming up here,
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me and my nephew.
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His name is Isaac.
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And we come up
on, uh, Bottle Hollow.
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And we seen a bright light
from the same area
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where this was, but it
was in the evening time,
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so I was, like,
flashing my car light,
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just messing around,
but it flashed back.
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Then it turned into, like,
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a red, glowing orb.
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It was just going so slow.
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-It was weird.
-JIM: Yeah, yeah.
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TOM:
It's just becoming
more and more clear
283
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and evident that Bottle Hollow
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is a unique and special place.
285
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It's very close to the ranch.
286
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There's obviously some sort
of connection to the ranch,
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and it deserves more research.
288
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JIM:
Well, Lloyd, I appreciate
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that you reached out to us
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and wanted to-to share.
291
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KANDUS:
Yeah, because we've
met so many locals,
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and some that are willing
to share their stories,
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but not so much with the public.
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I believe there's a lot
of Natives that are out there
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that are willing
to talk with you,
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you know, and I can plug that
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in to my radio station too,
298
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to have them get in
contact with you guys.
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-Okay, that works.
-Yeah.
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You know, I can do it,
like, right now.
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-KANDUS: Okay.
-TOM: You can do it right now?
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Excellent.
303
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TOM:
Lloyd offered to
put out a message
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on his radio station,
305
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calling for people to come
forward with their stories,
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and that's very valuable.
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I'd like to give out, uh,
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information to anyone out there
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within the reservation
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that would like to get in
contact with Skinwalker Ranch.
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If you've seen anything
around Bottle Hollow
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or any phenomenon
within the basin,
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get in contact
and share your stories.
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TOM:
People aren't so willing,
right now anyway,
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to share their stories
in an official way,
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but with Lloyd's help,
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that will change.
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And thanks for listening
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to Native Voltage Rez Radio
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90.3 FM.
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-Cool.
-Thank you very much.
322
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Thank you, guys.
Thank you very much.
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00:12:44,917 --> 00:12:46,792
Yeah, thanks,
it's been a pleasure.
324
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It's been a pleasure, Lloyd.
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-KANDUS: We'll see you.
-LLOYD: Yes, thank you.
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KYLE:
I got to tape our GPS modules,
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and then we are going to
do the experiment.
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So we're going to go over here
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-and get it all done.
-All right, fantastic.
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TRAVIS:
Once the sun went down,
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we were finally ready
to begin our experiment
332
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at the 300-foot altitude
above the triangle.
333
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As the team from Sky Elements
did their final check
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on the 200 drones...
335
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Erik and I finished
securing the GPS devices.
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ERIK:
Perfect.
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This will be interesting.
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And I'll... pretty much
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guarantee it's never
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-been tried before.
-Oh, I'd agree with that.
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TRAVIS:
And Pete Kelsey got his
lidar device ready to begin
342
00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:36,417
scanning the drones
once they were launched.
343
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PETE:
Here we go.
344
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TYLER:
I'm really excited to
see the data we get from that,
345
00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:41,458
I think it's going
to be really cool.
346
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KYLE: Hey, how's it going?
347
00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:46,167
Oh, we're getting there.
348
00:13:46,292 --> 00:13:47,375
We're about ready,
how are y'all doing?
349
00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:49,458
Trying to make sure
everything runs smooth.
350
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For now, everything
looks like it's good to go.
351
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-We are ready to fly.
-ERIK: Fantastic.
352
00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:55,792
Drones armed.
353
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Turning on lights.
354
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Lights are on.
355
00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:02,000
TRAVIS:
All right, we have
drones armed guys.
356
00:14:02,083 --> 00:14:03,792
All right, we're good here.
357
00:14:03,917 --> 00:14:06,458
PRESTON:
Five, four,
358
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three, two, one.
359
00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:12,125
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow.
360
00:14:12,208 --> 00:14:13,792
Look at that.
361
00:14:17,875 --> 00:14:19,458
Look at that.
362
00:14:21,292 --> 00:14:25,042
ERIK: Okay, I'm broadcasting
1.6 gigahertz.
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TRAVIS:
Right after
the drones were launched,
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00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:31,583
Erik started broadcasting the
1.6 gigahertz frequency signal
365
00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:35,125
that we've recorded on the ranch
during our previous experiments.
366
00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:38,500
All right, we'll be back
after we launch the rocket.
367
00:14:38,583 --> 00:14:39,542
-Okay.
-TRAVIS: Let's go.
368
00:14:39,708 --> 00:14:41,958
And then, Thomas and I
369
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headed to a position
just west of the triangle,
370
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so we could get a rocket
ready to launch.
371
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Both of these tools seem to have
372
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stimulated phenomena
to occur in the past,
373
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so we wanted to see how it
might affect the drone swarm.
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TYLER:
They just moved into place.
375
00:14:58,208 --> 00:15:00,792
-Look how tight they are.
-Yep, yep.
376
00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:03,375
PETE:
That looks perfect.
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00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,083
TYLER:
All right, we're ready to roll.
378
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,250
PRESTON:
Show's rolling.
379
00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:11,958
-PETE: They're moving.
-KALEB: Yep.
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TREVOR:
Should be just about over
the triangle here, guys.
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THOMAS:
Hey, look right here.
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-TRAVIS: What we got?
-THOMAS: Hey, look.
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We've got drones
that are out of sequence.
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00:15:24,708 --> 00:15:26,500
TRAVIS: Yeah, we do.
There are several in a line
385
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right down the middle of it!
386
00:15:28,875 --> 00:15:29,875
Hey, Erik?
387
00:15:30,042 --> 00:15:32,458
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
388
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TRAVIS:
There are several
drones out of line
389
00:15:34,708 --> 00:15:35,792
we can see from our perspective.
390
00:15:35,917 --> 00:15:38,167
They are clearly out of place.
391
00:15:38,333 --> 00:15:41,042
Yeah, we've got eyes on that.
392
00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,000
TRAVIS:
When the 200 drones
were first launched,
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their preprogrammed
formation looked perfect.
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They were all in a tight,
uniform pattern,
395
00:15:49,042 --> 00:15:50,417
and lit up beautifully.
396
00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:51,667
Where are they?
397
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ERIK:
The pattern is directly
398
00:15:53,208 --> 00:15:54,500
over the triangle
right now, Travis.
399
00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,542
KALEB: They're going
right through the anomaly.
400
00:15:56,708 --> 00:15:59,167
TRAVIS:
But then, right
when they reached
401
00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:01,208
the 300-foot spot
above the triangle,
402
00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,125
several of them were clearly
403
00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:05,167
diverted out of formation
by something.
404
00:16:09,208 --> 00:16:10,792
PRESTON:
Our drones use very
sophisticated GPS's,
405
00:16:10,917 --> 00:16:12,000
we have a Wi-Fi network,
406
00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:13,625
we have a redundant RF network.
407
00:16:13,708 --> 00:16:17,042
These are precise
positionings that we maintain.
408
00:16:17,167 --> 00:16:18,333
So having those drones
out of position
409
00:16:18,458 --> 00:16:20,333
in that grid pattern was
something very unusual.
410
00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:25,167
Hey, uh, Tyler,
I just lost three drones,
411
00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,000
losing four, losing five.
412
00:16:27,125 --> 00:16:28,958
Well, how many drones
do you have connected?
413
00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:32,333
I have 80 disconnected.
414
00:16:34,542 --> 00:16:36,042
Uh-oh, fail safe.
415
00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:39,208
Look at that.
416
00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:42,125
-ERIK: What is this?
-TYLER: They're coming home.
417
00:16:42,208 --> 00:16:44,083
Hey, guys, everybody
stand by close to the grid.
418
00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:45,917
We need to get these guys
unplugged quick.
419
00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:49,167
KYLE:
I've never seen that.
420
00:16:49,292 --> 00:16:52,167
Something happened
because those drones
421
00:16:52,292 --> 00:16:53,708
had to return to
the ground unexpectedly.
422
00:16:53,833 --> 00:16:56,667
So they all landed way sooner
than they were supposed to.
423
00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,792
It's nothing that I can explain.
424
00:16:58,917 --> 00:17:00,167
THOMAS:
Let's head back over there.
425
00:17:00,292 --> 00:17:01,667
TRAVIS:
All right, lets head back.
426
00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:05,125
KYLE: We've only seen those
drones return to home
427
00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,375
like that in
extreme temperatures,
428
00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:10,792
when we're working in
the snow or the excess heat,
429
00:17:10,917 --> 00:17:13,750
when those batteries are really
getting pushed to the limit.
430
00:17:13,875 --> 00:17:15,542
But out here on
Skinwalker Ranch,
431
00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,625
we only saw about
60 degrees at the lowest,
432
00:17:17,708 --> 00:17:20,250
and it's nothing that
should have happened.
433
00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:22,333
Something interesting
we're seeing.
434
00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:24,667
Um, it appears the batteries are
435
00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:27,125
draining quicker than usual,
than what we usually see.
436
00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:28,667
How much quicker?
437
00:17:28,792 --> 00:17:30,167
TYLER:
I don't know that
I can quantify it,
438
00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:31,625
but I just noticed
that some of them
439
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,125
seem to be decreasing
quicker than usual.
440
00:17:33,208 --> 00:17:36,458
Wow. Well, then maybe
we need to fly quick.
441
00:17:36,542 --> 00:17:38,375
PRESTON:
So Erik warned us
that weird things
442
00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:39,833
happened with the electronics,
443
00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:41,833
and we're very confident
in our systems,
444
00:17:41,958 --> 00:17:43,292
we've done hundreds
of drone shows,
445
00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:45,292
but there is definitely
something going on here
446
00:17:45,375 --> 00:17:47,000
that affects the batteries,
the drone positioning,
447
00:17:47,125 --> 00:17:49,708
all kinds of things that
are just very unusual
448
00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:50,958
and very unexplainable.
449
00:17:51,083 --> 00:17:52,792
So we have a couple of options
450
00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:54,208
for what we can fly next.
451
00:17:54,333 --> 00:17:55,917
We can fly the grid again
452
00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:57,542
and see if we see
the exact same behaviors.
453
00:17:57,667 --> 00:18:00,125
TRAVIS:
Repeatability is really good.
454
00:18:00,208 --> 00:18:01,208
We would do
the exact same thing.
455
00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:02,667
We still got a rocket
ready to go.
456
00:18:02,833 --> 00:18:05,292
Uh, yes, I agree, repeatability.
457
00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:07,958
Given what we've seen
and how unusual it is,
458
00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:09,875
I'd love to see if
it would happen again.
459
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,667
Oh, yeah.
460
00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:13,792
TYLER:
All right, drones are ready.
461
00:18:13,875 --> 00:18:15,417
Let's roll.
462
00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:16,625
Preston, whenever you're ready.
463
00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:17,708
All right.
464
00:18:22,083 --> 00:18:23,208
Oh, there they are.
465
00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:24,583
-I see them.
-There we go.
466
00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:28,583
-THOMAS: Oh, that is cool.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, that is cool.
467
00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,583
We are hot.
468
00:18:31,708 --> 00:18:33,833
The rocket is armed
and ready to launch.
469
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,208
Copy you.
470
00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:39,458
THOMAS:
In three, two, one...
471
00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:44,167
Rocket just went, guys.
472
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,792
THOMAS:
Oh, there goes...
Oh, oh, look at them.
473
00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:49,625
Oh, one's fall...
One's falling! One's falling!
474
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,375
(overlapping shouting)
475
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,375
-TRAVIS: Holy cow, look at that!
-THOMAS: There goes another one!
476
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,292
TRAVIS:
They're not coming down.
Are they bringing them down?
477
00:18:57,417 --> 00:18:58,542
KALEB:
Whoa, that one's way... Whoa.
478
00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:01,500
Whoa, what's-what's
going on there?
479
00:19:01,583 --> 00:19:03,333
PRESTON:
I've lost all of them,
480
00:19:03,458 --> 00:19:05,083
almost all of them
disconnected right now.
481
00:19:11,875 --> 00:19:13,292
It's going crazy. Look at it.
482
00:19:13,375 --> 00:19:15,083
Way out. Look at that.
483
00:19:15,208 --> 00:19:16,792
Just as soon as
the swarm of drones
484
00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:19,000
flew over the triangle,
something interfered
485
00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:20,583
with their controls,
and inexplicably
486
00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:21,958
altered their formation,
487
00:19:22,042 --> 00:19:24,625
which Tyler and the team
from Sky Elements
488
00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:27,167
had never experienced
before. Ever.
489
00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:29,292
This is really something...
490
00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:31,083
KALEB:
You can see them moving,
491
00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:32,625
trying to stabilize themselves.
492
00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:34,292
TYLER:
The amount of
variability we saw,
493
00:19:34,375 --> 00:19:36,500
specifically in the front
and middle of that grid,
494
00:19:36,583 --> 00:19:38,000
is not something
we're used to seeing.
495
00:19:38,125 --> 00:19:39,333
We saw almost all
of them disconnect,
496
00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:41,042
which is not something
we've ever seen before.
497
00:19:41,208 --> 00:19:42,333
TRAVIS:
Oh, look, did you see the lines
498
00:19:42,417 --> 00:19:43,500
suddenly straightened out?
499
00:19:43,625 --> 00:19:44,792
I think they're
moving to the south.
500
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:45,792
Is that what they're doing?
501
00:19:45,917 --> 00:19:47,833
-It's straightened up.
-It's getting better.
502
00:19:47,958 --> 00:19:50,125
TYLER:
30 seconds to landing.
503
00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:51,833
TRAVIS:
Something over the triangle
clearly caused it,
504
00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,125
because as soon as the drones
505
00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:54,958
left that area to land,
506
00:19:55,042 --> 00:19:57,333
they immediately
came back online
507
00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:00,375
and reassembled in their
preprogrammed formation.
508
00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:04,042
We could "what if" all night,
509
00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:05,208
but what we have now is data.
510
00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,833
We have data that says
511
00:20:06,958 --> 00:20:08,667
there's something weird there.
512
00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:10,417
-Yeah.
-TRAVIS: You know, we've done
513
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,292
so many experiments
trying to just get
514
00:20:12,417 --> 00:20:14,125
a handle on what could
be causing the anomaly.
515
00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:15,875
We've shined
big lasers through it,
516
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,500
we've fired rockets through it,
517
00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:19,042
we've flown around it with lidar
518
00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:22,042
and GPS and all sorts of things,
519
00:20:22,167 --> 00:20:24,333
and every single time
we do something,
520
00:20:24,458 --> 00:20:28,833
we seem to find some effect
on our experimental system.
521
00:20:28,958 --> 00:20:31,625
So, uh, there's no explanation
522
00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:35,375
that really fits unless
it's some magic physics
523
00:20:35,542 --> 00:20:37,833
that we don't understand
that's happening
524
00:20:37,958 --> 00:20:39,625
very localized up there.
525
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:41,000
For sure.
526
00:20:41,125 --> 00:20:42,208
I'm anxious to fly
similar patterns,
527
00:20:42,375 --> 00:20:43,458
if not exactly the same pattern,
528
00:20:43,583 --> 00:20:46,042
in another interesting
location on the ranch
529
00:20:46,167 --> 00:20:47,833
off to the east,
where we've seen
530
00:20:47,958 --> 00:20:51,417
some very interesting
effects in our surveys.
531
00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:53,167
-Let's do it.
-Yeah, let's...
532
00:20:53,292 --> 00:20:56,917
TRAVIS:
After what we saw happen to
the drone swarm at the triangle,
533
00:20:57,042 --> 00:20:58,333
we couldn't wait to move
534
00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:00,833
about a half a mile over
to the east field
535
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,250
to run the experiment again.
536
00:21:02,375 --> 00:21:04,083
Since we've also detected
537
00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:06,917
aerial anomalies there
in the past,
538
00:21:07,042 --> 00:21:08,375
we were hoping to get more clues
539
00:21:08,542 --> 00:21:10,167
about what could be causing
540
00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:12,083
all these crazy
phenomena on the ranch.
541
00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:14,792
THOMAS: Where we're
set up right here
542
00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:16,500
is almost exactly
underneath the anomaly
543
00:21:16,667 --> 00:21:17,833
that your photogrammetry showed.
544
00:21:17,958 --> 00:21:19,750
Now when he came out
545
00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:22,583
and did a photogrammetry
scan of this area,
546
00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:26,250
for some reason there were
multiple pictures showing
547
00:21:26,375 --> 00:21:27,625
some type of spire
548
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:30,042
that went up into the air
several hundred feet.
549
00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:31,250
So there have been
anomalies captured
550
00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:34,250
in two different times here,
a year apart.
551
00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:37,208
One year ago,
using photogrammetry
552
00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:39,958
above the east field,
Pete Kelsey detected
553
00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:42,250
a massive pillar-shaped anomaly.
554
00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:43,500
Just last week,
555
00:21:43,625 --> 00:21:45,333
when Pete scanned the same area
556
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:48,083
with a lidar device
from Brandon's helicopter,
557
00:21:48,208 --> 00:21:50,042
we were stunned when he detected
558
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,292
something nearly
300 feet in the air,
559
00:21:52,417 --> 00:21:54,333
which matched up perfectly
560
00:21:54,458 --> 00:21:55,750
with the top of the pillar.
561
00:21:55,875 --> 00:21:57,083
ERIK:
I say we get
these things in the air.
562
00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,208
-Yeah, great.
-Let's get it going.
563
00:21:58,375 --> 00:21:59,542
All right.
564
00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,125
Let's hook the ignitor up.
565
00:22:03,208 --> 00:22:05,917
TYLER:
30 seconds to takeoff.
566
00:22:06,042 --> 00:22:07,667
30 seconds, guys!
567
00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:10,708
TYLER:
Ten seconds to lift.
568
00:22:12,042 --> 00:22:13,208
PETE:
Oh, (bleep).
569
00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,083
TYLER:
Had one go early.
570
00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,458
Yeah, I was going to say.
What the...
571
00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:18,125
MAN:
I've never seen that.
572
00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:19,500
What...
573
00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:20,500
(overlapping chatter)
574
00:22:20,625 --> 00:22:22,208
TRAVIS:
Inexplicably,
575
00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,250
before Preston
launched the drone swarm,
576
00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,500
one just took off on its own,
577
00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,667
and ascended to
its preprogrammed position.
578
00:22:29,792 --> 00:22:31,958
KYLE:
I've never seen that, GPS is on.
579
00:22:32,042 --> 00:22:33,833
TRAVIS: Stay with it.
580
00:22:35,583 --> 00:22:36,625
PRESTON:
Remainder of takeoff.
581
00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:38,583
TRAVIS:
Hey, hey, here we go.
582
00:22:39,667 --> 00:22:41,292
KALEB:
They had one go early, Travis.
583
00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:43,333
TRAVIS:
I saw that.
584
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:44,917
It's up there
flying around by itself,
585
00:22:45,042 --> 00:22:46,000
-ain't it?
-KALEB: Yep.
586
00:22:46,125 --> 00:22:48,083
TRAVIS:
One of them's acting...
587
00:22:48,208 --> 00:22:49,333
Oh, look it flew up to it.
588
00:22:49,458 --> 00:22:50,833
Hey, we got holes.
589
00:22:50,917 --> 00:22:52,333
Yeah, we got... How many?
590
00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:56,292
Once the swarm
launched and joined
591
00:22:56,417 --> 00:22:58,208
the one that went rogue,
almost immediately,
592
00:22:58,375 --> 00:22:59,958
several of them went offline
593
00:23:00,083 --> 00:23:01,792
and fell out of formation.
594
00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:04,083
Four, I think there's
four missing. Five.
595
00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:06,500
It made me think it could
be connected to the anomaly
596
00:23:06,583 --> 00:23:08,417
that we've repeatedly
detected there.
597
00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,458
So, I wanted to see
if we could stimulate
598
00:23:10,542 --> 00:23:11,792
some hard evidence to prove it.
599
00:23:11,875 --> 00:23:14,750
Rocket's going hot.
Everybody clear the rocket.
600
00:23:14,875 --> 00:23:16,667
Armed.
601
00:23:16,792 --> 00:23:18,167
Ignition in five,
602
00:23:18,292 --> 00:23:19,417
four,
603
00:23:19,542 --> 00:23:21,333
three, two, one.
604
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,583
MAN:
Rocket's going.
605
00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:31,042
TRAVIS:
Where's the chute?
There it goes, there we go.
606
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,833
THOMAS:
I mean that's a pretty nice,
tight formation right there.
607
00:23:35,958 --> 00:23:37,625
TYLER:
It's a lot tighter than we were
seeing in the other location.
608
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:38,500
TRAVIS:
Yeah, yeah, near the triangle.
609
00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:40,500
It wasn't like that.
610
00:23:41,708 --> 00:23:44,000
Oh, you can start to see
some wiggle in the middle.
611
00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:46,667
TYLER:
Yeah, right in the middle.
612
00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:47,833
TRAVIS:
Yeah, look in the middle.
613
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,458
Look in the middle, guys.
The drones are kind of
614
00:23:50,583 --> 00:23:53,000
wiggling around.
There's no wind at all.
615
00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:54,875
All right, as you come this way,
616
00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:57,000
look, the ones in the middle
got stable again.
617
00:23:57,167 --> 00:23:59,000
So, when we were
right over there,
618
00:23:59,167 --> 00:24:00,833
there was some instability.
619
00:24:00,958 --> 00:24:03,167
That's right where you were
at in the helicopter, right?
620
00:24:03,292 --> 00:24:04,500
Yeah, you're exactly right.
621
00:24:04,625 --> 00:24:06,375
THOMAS: The closer
that these drones flew
622
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:07,875
to this anomaly up in the air,
623
00:24:08,042 --> 00:24:10,500
the more interference
they were experiencing,
624
00:24:10,625 --> 00:24:13,500
the harder time they had
staying in their pattern.
625
00:24:13,667 --> 00:24:15,333
It'll be interesting to see
what kind of data
626
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,542
we get from Erik
and his GPS sensors,
627
00:24:17,667 --> 00:24:20,125
from Pete and his
terrestrial scanner,
628
00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:22,875
as well as the data
from Pete's drone up above.
629
00:24:23,042 --> 00:24:24,750
KALEB:
We got something right there.
630
00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:26,750
TRAVIS:
Right where, right where?
631
00:24:26,875 --> 00:24:28,500
Right...
Right where my light's at.
632
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:30,167
TRAVIS:
Yeah, it is.
That's it right there.
633
00:24:30,292 --> 00:24:32,083
KALEB:
Travis.
634
00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:34,167
This just changed direction!
635
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:35,833
TRAVIS:
What is it?
636
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:41,583
TRAVIS: There it is,
there it is right there.
637
00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:42,625
There's a thing
638
00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,250
hovering over the launch site.
639
00:24:44,375 --> 00:24:46,125
ERIK:
Wow.
640
00:24:47,333 --> 00:24:48,208
TRAVIS: Right there.
641
00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,292
KALEB: That's crazy.
642
00:24:50,375 --> 00:24:52,083
TRAVIS:
It just disappeared.
643
00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:53,583
It went up into the cloud.
644
00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:57,000
PRESTON:
They're coming back.
645
00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,792
TYLER:
Yeah, they're moving down now.
646
00:24:58,875 --> 00:24:59,917
TRAVIS:
One of the brightest UAPs
647
00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:02,833
I've ever seen on
the ranch appeared
648
00:25:02,958 --> 00:25:04,375
and moved slowly across the sky
649
00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,000
for several seconds,
650
00:25:06,083 --> 00:25:07,458
but then it just vanished.
651
00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:09,333
-It was bright.
-It was really bright.
652
00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,208
So where... did it disappear?
653
00:25:11,375 --> 00:25:12,417
TRAVIS: It came from the west
654
00:25:12,542 --> 00:25:13,458
and then it looked like
655
00:25:13,583 --> 00:25:14,375
it was below the cloud.
656
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,833
And it disappeared.
657
00:25:15,958 --> 00:25:17,833
Hey, guys, what do
we have going on?
658
00:25:17,958 --> 00:25:18,833
Y'all didn't happen to see
the thing overhead
659
00:25:18,958 --> 00:25:20,833
just a few minutes ago, did you?
660
00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:22,458
-I actually did, yeah.
-TRAVIS: You saw it?
661
00:25:22,583 --> 00:25:23,750
-Yeah.
-We saw it, yeah.
662
00:25:23,875 --> 00:25:25,167
We both saw it.
It was really bright,
663
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:26,833
It was actually really low.
It didn't really add up.
664
00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:28,417
It was like below the clouds.
665
00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:29,708
-TYLER: I agree.
-Yeah.
666
00:25:29,875 --> 00:25:31,125
And then it looked like
it went into the cloud
667
00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:32,375
and then it never came out
the other side.
668
00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:33,500
TRAVIS:
And it never came out.
669
00:25:33,625 --> 00:25:34,625
I've got a question for you.
670
00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,167
You described something
671
00:25:36,292 --> 00:25:37,125
unusual that happened.
672
00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:39,500
Can you go through that again?
673
00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:40,917
We've never seen it where
674
00:25:41,042 --> 00:25:42,875
we can see that all
the drones are connected,
675
00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:44,625
but we can't communicate with
them in some form or fashion.
676
00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,458
KYLE:
What was also very interesting
677
00:25:47,583 --> 00:25:49,542
was on this last flight,
we had one drone
678
00:25:49,667 --> 00:25:52,792
start right before
all the others,
679
00:25:52,917 --> 00:25:53,833
and we've never seen that.
680
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,458
They all go together.
They all have
681
00:25:55,583 --> 00:25:56,708
the same signal.
682
00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,458
Well, that one drone
that took off
683
00:25:58,583 --> 00:25:59,667
was actually in the center
of that region
684
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,042
of the drones that
didn't want to connect.
685
00:26:01,167 --> 00:26:03,500
PRESTON:
Sky Elements has done shows
686
00:26:03,625 --> 00:26:05,000
all over the country,
we've done hundreds of shows.
687
00:26:05,083 --> 00:26:06,333
I've sent up
thousands of drones,
688
00:26:06,458 --> 00:26:07,542
and there's issues we've seen
689
00:26:07,708 --> 00:26:09,458
this evening that
have been things
690
00:26:09,542 --> 00:26:10,750
we've never seen before.
691
00:26:10,875 --> 00:26:12,167
THOMAS:
Every single expert
692
00:26:12,250 --> 00:26:14,542
that we have brought on,
uh, I think the ranch
693
00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:16,792
has a perfect record of them
694
00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:19,833
seeing something they've
never seen before, so...
695
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,083
I think this experiment
was one of
696
00:26:21,208 --> 00:26:22,083
the best things we've done
697
00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:24,375
with precision,
with so many data points.
698
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,375
PETE:
You know how anxious I am
699
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:27,750
to go pull the data off
700
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,833
-that laser scanner.
-Yeah.
701
00:26:29,917 --> 00:26:31,500
TRAVIS:
Between Erik's
surveillance cameras
702
00:26:31,625 --> 00:26:32,875
and Pete's scanning devices,
703
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
I can't wait
to see what comes out
704
00:26:35,125 --> 00:26:36,833
in the data
once it's all processed.
705
00:26:36,917 --> 00:26:39,833
Hopefully, we'll have
more visual evidence
706
00:26:39,917 --> 00:26:41,792
of whatever we saw in the sky,
707
00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,833
and be able to identify
just what it was.
708
00:26:44,958 --> 00:26:47,000
Well, guys, I think
this was amazing.
709
00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:49,083
And, uh, we've got a lot
of data to, kind of,
710
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,000
absorb and-and analyze
and think about,
711
00:26:51,167 --> 00:26:52,458
but I appreciate it.
712
00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:54,167
I can't wait for you
to pull the data off,
713
00:26:54,292 --> 00:26:55,625
but I say it's getting late.
714
00:26:55,708 --> 00:26:56,958
Let's call it a night.
715
00:26:57,042 --> 00:26:58,292
Great job, guys.
716
00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:00,083
-All right.
-Thanks a lot.
-(overlapping chatter)
717
00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:02,208
KYLE: Thank you,
thanks for having us.
718
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,083
ERIK: We've got Pete Kelsey
cued up for a video conference.
719
00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,458
He's got a huge amount
of data to share with us
720
00:27:14,583 --> 00:27:16,458
from the drone experiments
721
00:27:16,542 --> 00:27:17,583
that we've done out
in the east field
722
00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,583
and the triangle.
723
00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:21,333
So, I think we should
just jump right in.
724
00:27:21,458 --> 00:27:23,208
-Awesome.
-Love to see it.
725
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:25,333
TRAVIS:
Eric and I spent
a couple of days
726
00:27:25,458 --> 00:27:26,792
after the drone experiment
727
00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,917
reviewing our surveillance
footage of the UAP.
728
00:27:29,042 --> 00:27:30,250
-Hey, Pete.
-Hey, guys.
729
00:27:30,375 --> 00:27:32,958
So we were eager to
compare it to Pete's data
730
00:27:33,083 --> 00:27:35,500
that he collected with
the terrestrial lidar scanner.
731
00:27:35,667 --> 00:27:37,125
ERIK:
I would like to release
732
00:27:37,208 --> 00:27:39,375
the screen to you
and see what you've got.
733
00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:42,917
PETE:
There we go, east field.
734
00:27:43,042 --> 00:27:46,625
You can see the mesa
here in the background.
735
00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:49,250
-What is that?
-That's got to be
the rocket right there.
736
00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:52,167
No, no, I'm talking about
737
00:27:52,292 --> 00:27:53,917
-right there.
-Oh.
738
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:57,750
That is way over there.
739
00:27:57,875 --> 00:27:58,833
That rocket never went...
That's-that's...
740
00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:00,667
That's a mile away.
741
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:03,417
We were shooting the rocket
down right here, right?
742
00:28:03,542 --> 00:28:05,458
TRAVIS:
So what on earth is that?
743
00:28:05,583 --> 00:28:06,542
ERIK:
Exactly.
744
00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:08,875
That's my question.
745
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,500
I want to know what in the heck
746
00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:11,958
it is that's
showing up out there
747
00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:14,917
on the very edge of what
that instrument can measure?
748
00:28:16,417 --> 00:28:19,167
KALEB:
That's in the exact same spot
where we saw the UAP come in.
749
00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:22,333
TRAVIS:
Yeah, and that dot
up there, to me,
750
00:28:22,458 --> 00:28:24,708
seems a little bit
unexplainable,
751
00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:27,083
and is at about
the right altitude
752
00:28:27,208 --> 00:28:29,542
of the... of the thing
that we saw in the sky.
753
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,500
We were amazed by the 3D map
754
00:28:32,625 --> 00:28:34,167
of the east field and the mesa
755
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:35,958
that Pete's terrestrial
lidar scanner
756
00:28:36,042 --> 00:28:38,625
produced during
the drone experiment
757
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:40,917
because it also appeared
to capture the UAP
758
00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:44,167
we saw off in the distance
after the rocket was launched.
759
00:28:44,292 --> 00:28:45,875
We really wanted to verify
760
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,958
if that's what it was.
761
00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:50,583
All right, so I think
we need to look
762
00:28:50,708 --> 00:28:52,458
at the footage of
763
00:28:52,583 --> 00:28:53,708
the ball in the sky,
764
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,708
and see if it kind of fits
in the same location
765
00:28:55,833 --> 00:28:58,833
as to what this anomaly
is here in the lidar data.
766
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,375
Yeah, let me bring that up.
767
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:05,375
So, there's the object.
768
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:08,958
So, tell me how this differs
769
00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:10,875
from what you saw
with your own eyes.
770
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,833
It was a lot brighter
when we were
771
00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:14,667
looking at it in real time.
772
00:29:14,792 --> 00:29:15,917
-Very bright.
-Very bright.
773
00:29:16,042 --> 00:29:19,625
TRAVIS:
And it came down, and...
774
00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:20,917
and it, kind of, was going,
775
00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:22,250
I'm going to say really slow.
776
00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:25,083
And then it turned
and went straight up
777
00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:26,250
into the clouds and was gone.
778
00:29:29,083 --> 00:29:31,500
Well, I took a shot of it
with my cell phone,
779
00:29:31,583 --> 00:29:32,542
-right?
-ERIK: Okay.
780
00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:34,000
And so then, from that,
781
00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:36,417
I did a 3D model of what
the image looked like.
782
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:37,833
-And I have that.
-Okay.
783
00:29:37,958 --> 00:29:39,542
I have what you put together.
784
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:41,875
-Okay.
-I'll bring that up.
785
00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:45,583
TRAVIS:
So, now, if you notice,
786
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:48,042
it clearly looks
like it's two halves.
787
00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:50,000
And looking at it,
it looks like it actually
788
00:29:50,125 --> 00:29:51,750
-has an indention, doesn't it?
-Mm-hmm.
789
00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,375
TRAVIS:
There's some dark spot to it.
790
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,750
From modeling that,
I've put this together.
791
00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,458
And, uh, this is kind of my
idea of what it looks like.
792
00:30:00,542 --> 00:30:02,167
There's dark spots on the end,
793
00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:03,750
and it's like a dumbbell,
sort of.
794
00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:07,208
And it's interesting,
it looks a lot like
795
00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:09,500
one of the UFOs
that an F-18 pilot
796
00:30:09,583 --> 00:30:12,542
captured with a cell phone that
they showed at the
797
00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:14,833
House Permanent Select Committee
On Intelligence meeting
798
00:30:14,958 --> 00:30:16,125
back a few months ago.
799
00:30:16,208 --> 00:30:19,000
I was really struck by this UAP
800
00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:21,208
that we saw on the ranch,
because when I was
801
00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:22,875
the chief scientist for
the federal government's
802
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,417
UAP task force
between 2020 and 2022,
803
00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:30,208
I reviewed a photograph
of something very similar
804
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,167
that was taken by
an American naval pilot
805
00:30:32,292 --> 00:30:34,833
off the coast
of Virginia in 2019.
806
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,333
As a scientist,
it was really compelling
807
00:30:37,458 --> 00:30:40,167
to see two possible
examples of a similar,
808
00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:43,375
if not the same,
aerial phenomena.
809
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,458
It's not a focus error,
810
00:30:45,542 --> 00:30:47,042
it's not bokeh effect,
811
00:30:47,167 --> 00:30:48,000
this is actually
what it looked like,
812
00:30:48,125 --> 00:30:49,708
and we saw it with our own eyes.
813
00:30:49,833 --> 00:30:51,167
That's what this
thing looked like.
814
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:56,125
ERIK:
So you got a sense
that this is nuts and bolts.
815
00:30:56,208 --> 00:30:57,833
TRAVIS:
I... I believe this
might be a nuts and bolts
816
00:30:57,958 --> 00:31:00,333
aircraft, and it was flying.
817
00:31:09,125 --> 00:31:10,500
THOMAS:
You know, that UAP
818
00:31:10,625 --> 00:31:12,708
or UFO that we saw the night
of the telescope last year
819
00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,292
was the closest, brightest
820
00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:16,792
object that I have seen
821
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,625
in my time here on the ranch...
822
00:31:18,708 --> 00:31:20,208
until we saw this one.
823
00:31:20,333 --> 00:31:23,083
Okay, this one was much lower,
824
00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,792
I think it was much
brighter and bigger.
825
00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:27,583
And this one looks
just like that one
826
00:31:27,708 --> 00:31:29,000
from the telescope night.
827
00:31:29,167 --> 00:31:31,167
That whole night
was just so strange.
828
00:31:31,333 --> 00:31:34,250
TRAVIS: Kaleb and Thomas
were exactly right.
829
00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:36,625
DAVID:
This scope is pretty dead.
830
00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,667
I aimed it manually
in the anomaly area,
831
00:31:39,792 --> 00:31:41,500
and then the camera
wasn't working.
832
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,542
TRAVIS:
Last year, while we were
trying to look
833
00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:46,333
through the triangle anomaly
with high-powered telescopes,
834
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,000
they malfunctioned just
like the drone swarm did.
835
00:31:51,333 --> 00:31:53,125
What the hell
is that in the sky?
836
00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:56,250
And then, suddenly
we saw an eerily
837
00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:58,875
similar UAP maneuver
over the ranch.
838
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,083
There's no red or green
or white lights on it.
839
00:32:02,208 --> 00:32:04,000
THOMAS:
It doesn't look like
it's that far away either.
840
00:32:04,125 --> 00:32:05,333
TRAVIS:
It's going right under Jupiter.
841
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,000
DAVID:
And it's almost
as big as Jupiter.
842
00:32:08,125 --> 00:32:10,583
TRAVIS:
And it's bright.
That ain't an airplane.
843
00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,000
DAVID:
It's getting dim.
844
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:13,625
THOMAS:
It just disappeared.
845
00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:18,000
I've got some data from the
east field exercise to share.
846
00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:20,125
So, we put GPS sensors on
847
00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:21,708
four of the drones
in that swarm.
848
00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:23,583
Obviously not on
all 200 of them.
849
00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:25,333
I can throw it up on the screen
850
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,125
-if that would help.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
851
00:32:29,333 --> 00:32:32,750
ERIK: So, this is
the sum total of the data
852
00:32:32,875 --> 00:32:34,750
that we got off
all four of those drones.
853
00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:38,167
And you are seeing
all of the maneuvers
854
00:32:38,292 --> 00:32:40,667
that those four individual
drones underwent
855
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:42,458
during the whole exercise.
856
00:32:42,542 --> 00:32:43,958
You know, I'm looking at
857
00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:45,667
perfectly well-behaved formation
858
00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:47,625
in the east field exercise.
859
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:49,417
It looks exactly like what
I would have expected to see.
860
00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:50,583
TRAVIS:
Yep, yep.
861
00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:52,583
ERIK:
Okay, I think
what we ought to do
862
00:32:52,708 --> 00:32:54,542
is go over to the other
part of the exercise
863
00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:55,708
at the triangle.
864
00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:57,417
I can't wait
to get eyes on that.
865
00:32:58,542 --> 00:32:59,917
ERIK:
Okay, so here...
866
00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:03,958
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow.
867
00:33:04,042 --> 00:33:06,042
Whatever that is,
it looks crazy as hell.
868
00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:08,458
'Cause I don't remember it
ever looking like that.
869
00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:11,125
Erik's GPS devices
were on the four corners
870
00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:12,542
of the drone swarm.
871
00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:15,208
So the data should
have appeared just like
872
00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,000
it did over the east field.
873
00:33:17,167 --> 00:33:19,583
All intact
and in one large cube.
874
00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:22,292
But instead, it was
scattered all around
875
00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:23,917
into a shape that
looked nothing like
876
00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:26,958
what we saw during
the actual experiment.
877
00:33:27,042 --> 00:33:29,000
So, once again,
something at the triangle
878
00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:31,500
completely distorted
our GPS data.
879
00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:34,333
ERIK:
So there's a lot
to discuss here.
880
00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:36,417
One of the really
881
00:33:36,542 --> 00:33:38,250
puzzling features of this
882
00:33:38,375 --> 00:33:40,750
is what happens when
you look beneath the ground.
883
00:33:41,958 --> 00:33:44,333
TRAVIS:
Whoa. It looks like some of them
884
00:33:44,458 --> 00:33:46,500
-are inside the mesa.
-ERIK: Yep.
885
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,167
Look how many of them
are under the surface.
886
00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:49,292
PETE:
Whoa, whoa,
887
00:33:49,417 --> 00:33:53,000
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
888
00:33:53,083 --> 00:33:54,417
-It looks like a tornado.
-KALEB: Right.
889
00:33:54,542 --> 00:33:56,375
I don't recall any
of the drones doing this.
890
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:57,625
KALEB:
No.
891
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:59,500
If I remember right, all these
892
00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:01,417
GPS's were on the corners.
893
00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:04,125
-ERIK: Mm-hmm.
-KALEB: So how's that
in the middle?
894
00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,125
Turn that up
again sideways, Erik.
895
00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:10,083
Uh, so we can see
that tornado-looking shape.
896
00:34:10,208 --> 00:34:11,333
Sure thing. You want to focus on
897
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,125
-this feature here?
-Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
898
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:18,583
TRAVIS:
Look right there.
899
00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:22,750
If I was going to draw
a wormhole two-dimensionally,
900
00:34:22,875 --> 00:34:24,542
that's what it looks like.
901
00:34:26,417 --> 00:34:29,458
It's two funnels connected
at the throats of the funnel.
902
00:34:29,583 --> 00:34:30,917
I'm just saying,
903
00:34:31,042 --> 00:34:33,250
something to think about.
904
00:34:33,375 --> 00:34:34,500
KALEB:
What more proof do we need
905
00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:37,208
that there's something
going on out here?
906
00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,208
-TRAVIS: It's true.
-BRYANT: Obviously,
907
00:34:39,375 --> 00:34:41,125
there is something
above the triangle
908
00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:43,167
that we've identified
with multiple experiments
909
00:34:43,292 --> 00:34:46,000
that absolutely
has its way with the GPS.
910
00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,667
ERIK:
This raises a lot of questions.
911
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:50,000
I don't feel like
912
00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:52,792
I'm nearly done
with this data yet.
913
00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:55,042
No, and I'm not comfortable with
whatever it means yet either.
914
00:34:57,125 --> 00:34:59,417
There's something else
going on here.
915
00:34:59,542 --> 00:35:01,833
Pete's got a bunch of data
that he collected
916
00:35:01,958 --> 00:35:03,333
during the exercise.
917
00:35:03,458 --> 00:35:05,542
So, Pete, what have you got?
Your, uh,
918
00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:07,167
terrestrial scanner...
What else do you have here?
919
00:35:07,292 --> 00:35:09,167
All right, guys, what
I'm going to bring up now
920
00:35:09,292 --> 00:35:11,833
is the data from
the terrestrial laser scanner.
921
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,167
TRAVIS:
After seeing Erik's
bizarre GPS data,
922
00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:17,167
I couldn't wait to see
Pete Kelsey's terrestrial
923
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,042
lidar scanner data
924
00:35:19,167 --> 00:35:21,333
since it created
a 3D map of both
925
00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:23,625
areas where we conducted
the drone experiments.
926
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,708
The hope was that it would
give us some possible clues
927
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:28,250
as to what caused the phenomena.
928
00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:31,375
PETE: So this is the data
929
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:33,333
from the first slide
we did at the triangle.
930
00:35:33,458 --> 00:35:35,292
You can see the mesa here
in the background.
931
00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:37,458
I'll just cut to the chase.
932
00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,458
The one part
933
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:42,125
that's strange,
934
00:35:42,208 --> 00:35:44,583
is right there.
935
00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:48,292
ERIK:
What is going on there?
936
00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,625
TRAVIS:
Is that a shadow?
937
00:35:50,708 --> 00:35:53,500
If I give you
a straight-down view...
938
00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,833
So, there's a gap in the data.
939
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,167
Where is the data?
940
00:36:00,292 --> 00:36:01,875
And you can see it all
941
00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:04,333
sitting off to the side there.
942
00:36:05,417 --> 00:36:07,208
PETE:
It's back here.
943
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,250
I've never seen that before.
944
00:36:10,542 --> 00:36:12,792
TRAVIS:
How far away is that?
945
00:36:12,917 --> 00:36:16,125
PETE:
Well beyond the range
of the scanner.
946
00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:20,417
So, I overlaid
947
00:36:20,542 --> 00:36:22,292
the data
948
00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:25,500
here in Google Earth,
949
00:36:25,625 --> 00:36:29,667
and what I thought
was really interesting...
950
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:31,917
is the line,
951
00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:33,458
almost spot-on,
952
00:36:33,583 --> 00:36:36,667
points right at
the top of the mesa.
953
00:36:38,583 --> 00:36:40,500
Oh, wow.
954
00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:42,125
TRAVIS:
That's hard to believe.
955
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:43,167
Look at that.
956
00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:44,333
It's pointing right towards
957
00:36:44,458 --> 00:36:45,833
the area where we drilled
958
00:36:45,958 --> 00:36:48,583
into that dome-shaped,
metal object last year.
959
00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:55,417
That's very interesting.
960
00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:57,750
The results of our experiment
961
00:36:57,875 --> 00:36:59,208
two days ago at the triangle
962
00:36:59,375 --> 00:37:01,292
have just gotten
even more bizarre.
963
00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:03,167
According to Pete Kelsey's
computer model
964
00:37:03,250 --> 00:37:04,583
of his lidar scans,
965
00:37:04,708 --> 00:37:07,500
a huge chunk of
the data is showing up
966
00:37:07,583 --> 00:37:10,000
over the mesa,
right where we drilled
967
00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:11,958
into a 400-foot-long
968
00:37:12,083 --> 00:37:14,333
dome-shaped metal
object last year.
969
00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,833
And not only that,
but a metal object
970
00:37:16,917 --> 00:37:18,333
made of materials that NASA uses
971
00:37:18,458 --> 00:37:20,208
on its own spacecraft.
972
00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:23,833
I guess the question
that remains
973
00:37:23,917 --> 00:37:25,833
is what kind of phenomena
974
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,500
could spoof
975
00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:31,042
your lidar system like that
976
00:37:31,167 --> 00:37:33,500
to make it push the data way off
977
00:37:33,583 --> 00:37:36,042
to make it think
it's further than it is
978
00:37:36,208 --> 00:37:37,208
and remove some of it?
979
00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:38,833
Have you ever seen that before?
980
00:37:38,917 --> 00:37:40,042
PETE:
No.
981
00:37:40,167 --> 00:37:42,375
I can't explain it.
982
00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:45,833
TRAVIS: Why do we keep
getting GPS data
983
00:37:45,917 --> 00:37:49,708
that is inside the mesa
and underneath the ground?
984
00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:53,667
This is an area where GPS
985
00:37:53,792 --> 00:37:55,208
has been spoofed
how many different times?
986
00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:57,375
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
987
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,333
I think we've
about seen everything.
988
00:37:59,458 --> 00:38:01,333
That is a lot of data to digest.
989
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,208
Guys, I got to tell you, this
is some of the best evidence
990
00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:07,000
that we've been able to capture.
991
00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:08,333
And it just goes to show,
992
00:38:08,458 --> 00:38:10,292
we've got more work to do
in both these places.
993
00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:12,167
A hundred percent
agree with that.
994
00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:14,208
I'm really curious
to hear from you two
995
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,125
as to what the next steps
996
00:38:16,208 --> 00:38:17,250
are going to be.
997
00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:18,250
TRAVIS:
Every time we get these UAPs
998
00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,167
on video, we get a few seconds.
999
00:38:20,292 --> 00:38:22,375
What if we had
a high-speed camera
1000
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,667
so those few seconds might be
1001
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:25,042
millions of frames
or thousands of frames,
1002
00:38:25,167 --> 00:38:27,250
-or at least hundreds of frames?
-Yeah.
1003
00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,917
TRAVIS:
Through my old
government contacts
1004
00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:30,542
with the UAP Task Force,
1005
00:38:30,667 --> 00:38:32,500
I'm aware of camera systems
1006
00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:34,250
that could photograph
the triangle area
1007
00:38:34,375 --> 00:38:36,667
in a much more comprehensive way
1008
00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:40,042
to let us get the best look
possible at aerial phenomena.
1009
00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:42,458
It just might
eliminate guesswork,
1010
00:38:42,583 --> 00:38:45,875
and help us identify
these UAPs or UFOs,
1011
00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:47,333
if that's really what they are.
1012
00:38:47,417 --> 00:38:50,417
Also, we've got a lot
of work to do
1013
00:38:50,542 --> 00:38:51,708
-inside the mesa.
-BRYANT: Right.
1014
00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:53,042
ERIK:
I definitely got unfinished
1015
00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:54,667
-business out there.
-TRAVIS: I agree.
1016
00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:56,833
You can't look at
the data we saw tonight
1017
00:38:56,917 --> 00:38:58,833
and think that we're
done with that, right?
1018
00:38:58,917 --> 00:39:00,208
-Right.
-KALEB: Yeah.
1019
00:39:00,375 --> 00:39:02,083
TRAVIS:
We just got to figure out
what to do next.
1020
00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:03,375
ERIK:
I would like to do some
1021
00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:04,875
ground-penetrating radar
1022
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:05,875
to see if we can
get any insights
1023
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,333
beneath that area.
1024
00:39:07,458 --> 00:39:09,458
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
-THOMAS: Absolutely.
1025
00:39:09,542 --> 00:39:11,500
TRAVIS:
Drilling has helped us
to approximate
1026
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:14,375
where this mysterious metal
object in the mesa is buried,
1027
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,167
but Erik is right.
1028
00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:18,083
Using ground-penetrating radar
1029
00:39:18,208 --> 00:39:21,083
will help us better define
this anomaly's dimensions.
1030
00:39:21,208 --> 00:39:23,583
Then we can figure out
how to reveal
1031
00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:25,375
just what the heck it really is.
1032
00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:28,625
I'm excited, I think
we've got more hard data...
1033
00:39:28,708 --> 00:39:29,750
We've got as much hard data
1034
00:39:29,875 --> 00:39:32,667
right now, I think,
as, uh, even when
1035
00:39:32,792 --> 00:39:34,833
I was with the UAP task force,
the things we saw.
1036
00:39:34,958 --> 00:39:37,167
-ERIK: Wow.
-TRAVIS: I think
this is amazing.
1037
00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:38,917
ERIK:
I'm ready to wrap it up,
1038
00:39:39,042 --> 00:39:40,500
-unless you guys...
-TRAVIS: Yeah, lets wrap it up.
1039
00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:41,583
-Great stuff.
-About all I can handle.
1040
00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:43,958
Pete, thank you for joining us.
1041
00:39:44,042 --> 00:39:45,292
Yeah, my pleasure.
1042
00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:46,833
-See you later, Pete.
-Take care.
1043
00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,958
Erik, this is
awesome stuff, man.
1044
00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:51,625
TRAVIS:
This spot on the mesa
1045
00:39:51,708 --> 00:39:53,958
is turning out
to be very interesting.
1046
00:39:55,042 --> 00:39:57,500
It's compelling evidence
of something unusual.
1047
00:39:57,625 --> 00:39:59,375
This is clearly
a spot of interest.
1048
00:39:59,542 --> 00:40:02,000
We've got to get
into the mesa somehow
1049
00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:03,583
and find out what this is.
1050
00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:06,708
ERIK: We are here
to be led by the data.
1051
00:40:06,875 --> 00:40:10,333
We observe, we measure,
and then our course is chosen
1052
00:40:10,458 --> 00:40:13,125
based upon the data in hand.
1053
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,667
This approach has yielded
1054
00:40:14,792 --> 00:40:16,917
some really powerful
insights so far,
1055
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:18,667
some unexpected results,
1056
00:40:18,792 --> 00:40:20,500
things I never anticipated.
1057
00:40:20,583 --> 00:40:22,708
And this is how
we're going to continue
1058
00:40:22,833 --> 00:40:25,750
as we conduct this
investigation on the ranch.
1059
00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:28,875
BRANDON: These experiments
continue to give us data,
1060
00:40:29,042 --> 00:40:31,833
data helping us understand
the nature of the phenomena.
1061
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,958
There is something tied
to both the airspace
1062
00:40:36,042 --> 00:40:37,542
above Skinwalker Ranch
1063
00:40:37,708 --> 00:40:40,333
and also that
which may lie below.
1064
00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:44,083
Our future investigation
will undoubtedly
1065
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:46,292
delve into these topics.
1066
00:40:46,375 --> 00:40:48,875
More than ever before.
1067
00:40:51,208 --> 00:40:52,500
The deeper we can see
1068
00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:54,167
into that mesa,
the more we're going to
1069
00:40:54,292 --> 00:40:56,208
understand what it is
we're messing with out here.
1070
00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:57,542
JAN:
Let's hope the GPS works.
1071
00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,917
This is highly anomalous.
1072
00:41:00,042 --> 00:41:02,042
Whatever this is
is as tall as the mesa.
1073
00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:03,917
TRAVIS: We should be
digging right there.
1074
00:41:05,167 --> 00:41:06,000
Oh, we got a malfunction.
1075
00:41:06,083 --> 00:41:07,375
Everybody watch out.
1076
00:41:07,542 --> 00:41:09,833
There's something in
the sky above the rocket.
1077
00:41:09,917 --> 00:41:12,708
We may be looking at the anomaly
for the first time, guys.
1078
00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:15,208
We have a helicopter
right over the triangle.
1079
00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:16,875
He's doing surveillance
right now.
1080
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,542
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