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How you doing? -Brandon Fugal. 11 00:00:32,375 --> 00:00:33,708 TRAVIS: Four years ago, 12 00:00:33,875 --> 00:00:35,042 I got the chance of a lifetime 13 00:00:35,167 --> 00:00:36,917 to join an amazing team 14 00:00:37,042 --> 00:00:38,833 in their investigation of the most bizarre place 15 00:00:38,958 --> 00:00:40,000 I'd ever heard of: 16 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:41,875 Skinwalker Ranch. 17 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:45,833 At first, I was skeptical of all the legends, 18 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:49,333 but from day one, we've experienced things together 19 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:52,125 that I thought were only possible in science fiction. 20 00:00:52,208 --> 00:00:54,500 -What are you seeing? -A signal? 21 00:00:54,583 --> 00:00:57,458 TRAVIS: Massive energy spikes that come out of nowhere... 22 00:00:57,583 --> 00:00:59,958 TRAVIS: 1.60000. 23 00:01:00,083 --> 00:01:03,042 BRYANT: Boy that thing sounds like it's hitting something. 24 00:01:03,167 --> 00:01:05,500 TRAVIS: ...evidence of a 400-foot-long, 25 00:01:05,583 --> 00:01:09,000 dome-shaped object buried inside a rocky mesa. 26 00:01:09,125 --> 00:01:12,333 Yeah, I'm up against something pretty hard right now. 27 00:01:12,417 --> 00:01:14,250 TRAVIS: ...inexplicable animal deaths... 28 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:17,083 There's no sign of struggle, it's just dead. 29 00:01:17,208 --> 00:01:19,167 TRAVIS: ...and a ton of UAPs. 30 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,667 Look, look, look, what is that? 31 00:01:20,750 --> 00:01:21,917 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 32 00:01:22,042 --> 00:01:23,458 -UAP right there! -Yup. 33 00:01:24,708 --> 00:01:26,667 TRAVIS: Recently, some documents were released 34 00:01:26,792 --> 00:01:29,500 to the public about a program run by the Pentagon 35 00:01:29,625 --> 00:01:31,500 known as UAPTF. 36 00:01:31,667 --> 00:01:35,167 The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. 37 00:01:36,250 --> 00:01:38,333 TRAVIS: It was created about four years ago 38 00:01:38,417 --> 00:01:39,958 for the study of UAPs 39 00:01:40,042 --> 00:01:43,958 and phenomena like what we've experienced on Skinwalker Ranch. 40 00:01:44,042 --> 00:01:48,542 These documents also revealed that I was the chief scientist 41 00:01:48,708 --> 00:01:51,917 for the UAPTF, and I helped to author 42 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:55,125 the official report that was presented to Congress in 2021. 43 00:01:55,208 --> 00:01:58,250 However, I wasn't permitted to disclose 44 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:00,625 any of this to the team on the ranch. 45 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:04,875 So, now, as I'm returning to join them once again 46 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:08,333 for what I consider to be the most critical investigation 47 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:11,167 of the UAP phenomenon in the world, 48 00:02:11,333 --> 00:02:14,333 I'm real eager to discuss what I can with them, 49 00:02:14,458 --> 00:02:17,667 and I'm curious what their response will be. 50 00:02:18,875 --> 00:02:22,708 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 51 00:02:22,875 --> 00:02:24,708 It is considered the epicenter 52 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:29,542 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 53 00:02:29,708 --> 00:02:32,125 animal mutilations, 54 00:02:32,208 --> 00:02:33,958 bizarre UFO sightings 55 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:39,333 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 56 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,167 For 20 years, the federal government 57 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:45,167 tried to find answers and failed. 58 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:49,375 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 59 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:53,375 researchers and experts has taken over. 60 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:57,708 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 61 00:02:59,583 --> 00:03:03,667 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 62 00:03:06,958 --> 00:03:09,167 ♪ 63 00:03:17,083 --> 00:03:18,875 Hey, Dragon, this is, uh, Cameron. 64 00:03:19,042 --> 00:03:20,292 I have Brandon on board. 65 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:23,583 We're on the perimeter of Skinwalker Ranch. We're inbound. 66 00:03:26,875 --> 00:03:30,333 BRANDON: I'm Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch. 67 00:03:30,417 --> 00:03:33,333 I'm really excited to pull together the team today. 68 00:03:33,458 --> 00:03:35,917 Every time that we enter the ranch, 69 00:03:36,042 --> 00:03:38,250 there are new discoveries and 70 00:03:38,375 --> 00:03:41,208 sometimes new dangers that arise. 71 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:46,167 We've seen more evidence of the reality of the phenomenon, 72 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:49,500 and we are committed to getting the answers. 73 00:03:49,625 --> 00:03:51,667 CAMERON: Here we come in 74 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:54,417 for our landing at the Skinwalker Ranch helipad. 75 00:03:54,542 --> 00:03:57,417 BRANDON: The revelation that Dr. Taylor 76 00:03:57,542 --> 00:04:00,167 had been acting as the chief scientist 77 00:04:00,250 --> 00:04:02,000 for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force 78 00:04:02,125 --> 00:04:05,542 came as a shock to all of us. 79 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:07,500 I think we're still processing 80 00:04:07,667 --> 00:04:10,333 the reality of what that means. 81 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:13,375 I found it to be intriguing. 82 00:04:13,542 --> 00:04:15,667 I found it to be confirmation 83 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:17,833 that we are truly on to something. 84 00:04:17,917 --> 00:04:20,333 -Hey. -Welcome back. 85 00:04:20,458 --> 00:04:22,000 -Good to see you, friend. -You, too. 86 00:04:22,083 --> 00:04:24,708 Hey, Kaleb. Oh, it's good to be back. 87 00:04:24,875 --> 00:04:27,708 BRYANT: We're ready to kick off another phase of this investigation. 88 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:29,833 It's always good to see my good friend Brandon, 89 00:04:29,917 --> 00:04:31,417 and we're excited to get him up to date 90 00:04:31,542 --> 00:04:32,667 on what we've been doing. 91 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:35,000 -Is the team assembled? -Yep. 92 00:04:35,083 --> 00:04:36,083 Great. 93 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:38,542 THOMAS: Today, we kick off 94 00:04:38,708 --> 00:04:41,417 the new research investigation this summer. 95 00:04:41,542 --> 00:04:44,083 I left last year being pretty disturbed 96 00:04:44,208 --> 00:04:46,458 about some of the things that I witnessed, 97 00:04:46,583 --> 00:04:48,917 and so, I wonder, you know, what lies ahead 98 00:04:49,042 --> 00:04:51,833 and what crazy things are we gonna experience this year? 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,375 Let's proceed. We've got a-a big day ahead of us. 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,208 And an exciting time to kick off this phase of the investigation. 101 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:07,667 -Great to have Dr. Taylor back. -Thank you. 102 00:05:07,833 --> 00:05:11,167 BRANDON: We had some interesting surprises over the last weeks 103 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:12,667 with Dr. Taylor, 104 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:16,333 the former chief scientist for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force. 105 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:20,333 Uh, it would be great to hear you shed some light on 106 00:05:20,458 --> 00:05:23,750 your role and how that has, uh, 107 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:27,375 impacted our investigation and-and how 108 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,875 that may influence things moving forward. 109 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,458 Sure. Uh, 110 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:34,333 well, so it started in a way 111 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,542 that you'd be surprised, actually. 112 00:05:36,708 --> 00:05:39,708 So, that first summer, back in 2019, I guess it was, 113 00:05:39,875 --> 00:05:43,167 there were some, uh, signals that we had measured, 114 00:05:43,250 --> 00:05:45,417 that I was concerned, uh, 115 00:05:45,542 --> 00:05:48,667 was a national security implication, and 116 00:05:48,792 --> 00:05:51,750 it was this 1.6 gigahertz signal. 117 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:53,208 Really? 118 00:05:53,375 --> 00:05:57,167 Erik, are you doing something at 1.6? 119 00:05:57,333 --> 00:05:58,417 I'm not broadcasting. 120 00:05:58,542 --> 00:06:00,167 TRAVIS: Over the past three years, 121 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:03,750 we've repeatedly detected an energy frequency measuring 122 00:06:03,875 --> 00:06:05,333 1.6 gigahertz... 123 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:06,667 (loud radio static) 124 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:08,333 What-what the heck is that? 125 00:06:08,417 --> 00:06:10,500 TRAVIS: ...which we've suspected could be 126 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:12,542 some kind of communication signal. 127 00:06:12,708 --> 00:06:16,458 Now, normal human technology like cell phones and radios 128 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:18,625 don't typically operate at that frequency. 129 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:22,250 So, with all the bizarre phenomena we've seen out here, 130 00:06:22,375 --> 00:06:23,875 I wondered who or what 131 00:06:24,042 --> 00:06:27,542 could be broadcasting that signal out here on the ranch. 132 00:06:27,667 --> 00:06:29,417 TRAVIS: I went to the Pentagon to brief, 133 00:06:29,542 --> 00:06:32,292 to find out if this was us doing it or if it was 134 00:06:32,375 --> 00:06:33,458 somebody else doing it. 135 00:06:33,583 --> 00:06:35,583 Foreign adversaries that may be involved. 136 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:37,167 Yes, and-and I had-- So, I had to report it 137 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:38,167 to the right officials. 138 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:39,958 So, I went to a room in the Pentagon, 139 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:42,375 and I, uh, I briefed, uh, 140 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:44,500 what I'd seen, and then this guy 141 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:46,375 comes into the room, and, uh, he asks 142 00:06:46,542 --> 00:06:48,125 everybody else but me to leave. 143 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:51,667 And he said, "I'm the director of the UAP Task Force. 144 00:06:51,833 --> 00:06:54,000 "This is very interesting, and what I'd like to do is invite 145 00:06:54,167 --> 00:06:56,500 "you to, uh, come on-on board and be the chief scientist 146 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,000 for the Task Force." 147 00:06:58,083 --> 00:06:59,708 And he presented me 148 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:01,833 to both Congress and the White House 149 00:07:01,917 --> 00:07:03,667 as the chief scientist of the Task Force, 150 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:05,917 and, uh, and it wasn't until 151 00:07:06,042 --> 00:07:08,833 he and I both retired within the last six months, 152 00:07:08,958 --> 00:07:11,750 and, uh, we were approved to r-reveal 153 00:07:11,875 --> 00:07:14,500 that we actually were a part of that-that Task Force. 154 00:07:14,583 --> 00:07:16,750 BRANDON: Interesting. Were they able 155 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:18,625 to shed light on whether we're dealing 156 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:20,500 with a foreign adversary or the nature 157 00:07:20,667 --> 00:07:22,500 of what we're recording here at Skinwalker Ranch? 158 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:24,458 TRAVIS: So, according to the charter written 159 00:07:24,542 --> 00:07:25,917 in the National Defense Authorization Act, 160 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,708 they had to tell us if they were doing something. 161 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:31,167 Turns out it's not us, it's not anybody 162 00:07:31,333 --> 00:07:33,583 that we know of, so what is it? 163 00:07:35,292 --> 00:07:38,625 I know a lot of our team members have been really concerned 164 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:42,417 that they weren't actually privy to your role. 165 00:07:42,542 --> 00:07:44,000 Yeah, well, 166 00:07:44,125 --> 00:07:48,000 you know, I was bound by an oath and legal, uh, requirements. 167 00:07:48,083 --> 00:07:49,875 I could not say it. If I would've said it, 168 00:07:50,042 --> 00:07:50,875 I'd have gone to jail. 169 00:07:51,042 --> 00:07:54,250 Right? I can tell you now that, uh, I'm in 170 00:07:54,375 --> 00:07:57,708 the private sector, and I see this as a huge opportunity here. 171 00:07:57,833 --> 00:08:01,375 That, uh, hopefully, we'll see assets come available for us. 172 00:08:01,542 --> 00:08:03,667 -Well, it has to be reciprocal. -I agree. 173 00:08:03,792 --> 00:08:05,333 -This has to be a give-and-take. -Yeah. 174 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:06,625 Especially when we're dealing with 175 00:08:06,708 --> 00:08:09,042 -such sensitive material. -TRAVIS: I agree. 176 00:08:09,208 --> 00:08:11,500 TRAVIS: It was hard for me to keep information 177 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:13,417 from everyone on the ranch because 178 00:08:13,542 --> 00:08:15,875 it's critical that we act and feel like a team. 179 00:08:16,042 --> 00:08:18,667 But I also completely understand why the government 180 00:08:18,833 --> 00:08:21,000 needed me to keep some things confidential. 181 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:24,667 Thankfully, now that I've left the UAP Task Force, 182 00:08:24,750 --> 00:08:26,667 there will be no more need for secrets. 183 00:08:26,833 --> 00:08:30,875 I can say from, uh, my personal, uh, experience here, 184 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,667 and from, uh, what we've, uh, uncovered and investigated, 185 00:08:34,792 --> 00:08:37,083 this is a hot spot that, uh, 186 00:08:37,208 --> 00:08:39,000 everybody's looking at, and-and 187 00:08:39,125 --> 00:08:41,167 they wish they had the access that we have 188 00:08:41,292 --> 00:08:44,208 on the daily basis to do the tests and measurements. 189 00:08:44,375 --> 00:08:46,667 So, if I'm correct here, 190 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:50,667 it was the work that you started doing here 191 00:08:50,792 --> 00:08:52,958 that led to your opportunity 192 00:08:53,042 --> 00:08:54,333 -to be part of... -TRAVIS: That's right. 193 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:57,542 That's coming from the guy that told us we were all nuts 194 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:58,833 when we first invited you to come out here. 195 00:08:58,958 --> 00:09:00,042 (laughs) I knew you were gonna say that. 196 00:09:00,167 --> 00:09:01,333 Just saying, I love it. 197 00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:04,500 ERIK: Dr. Taylor's involvement with the UAP Task Force, 198 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:06,417 this is of course a revelation. 199 00:09:06,542 --> 00:09:08,333 It doesn't really change my outlook 200 00:09:08,417 --> 00:09:10,042 on his contributions here, 201 00:09:10,208 --> 00:09:12,667 but I also welcome any insights that may have come out 202 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:15,875 of his involvement with the UAP Task Force. 203 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,708 So, Erik, what would you propose as far as experiments? 204 00:09:20,875 --> 00:09:22,500 We've got a lot of planned activities. 205 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:25,708 Um, some of them based in the work that we did 206 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:27,000 the last time we were all together. 207 00:09:27,125 --> 00:09:29,333 One of the big findings, of course, was 208 00:09:29,458 --> 00:09:31,000 what was inside that mesa. 209 00:09:31,125 --> 00:09:32,417 Right. 210 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:34,333 And what did we pull out? Metal. 211 00:09:34,458 --> 00:09:36,667 Right. It's an aerospace-style, 212 00:09:36,833 --> 00:09:38,833 manufactured material, 213 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,917 not something that happens naturally. 214 00:09:41,042 --> 00:09:42,042 Yeah. 215 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,042 TRAVIS: Last year, 216 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:45,833 while drilling horizontally into the mesa... 217 00:09:45,958 --> 00:09:48,875 Wow, look at all the metal. 218 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,083 TRAVIS: ...we extracted pieces of metal from a massive, 219 00:09:51,208 --> 00:09:54,417 dome-shaped object that the drill couldn't penetrate. 220 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:56,250 You did the analysis of the, uh, 221 00:09:56,375 --> 00:09:57,792 samples that we sent? 222 00:09:57,917 --> 00:09:59,708 -Yes, we did. -TRAVIS: Ah. 223 00:09:59,875 --> 00:10:02,833 And when we had them analyzed at the University of Utah, 224 00:10:02,958 --> 00:10:05,667 we found out that they were composed of a mixture 225 00:10:05,792 --> 00:10:07,542 of elements that NASA used 226 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:09,958 as a protective coating on the space shuttles. 227 00:10:10,042 --> 00:10:11,750 So, one of our main goals this year 228 00:10:11,875 --> 00:10:14,333 is to determine just what could be buried 229 00:10:14,458 --> 00:10:15,833 inside that mesa. 230 00:10:16,917 --> 00:10:19,708 ERIK: I think one of the ways we get answers to the mesa 231 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:21,917 is to do a different kind of survey, 232 00:10:22,042 --> 00:10:25,250 and I'm thinking ground-penetrating radar. 233 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:28,542 So, we have a GPR capability that we're going to deploy 234 00:10:28,708 --> 00:10:30,958 this year, which is gonna allow us to kind of paint 235 00:10:31,083 --> 00:10:33,500 that whole area and see down into the ground 236 00:10:33,583 --> 00:10:35,333 and see if maybe there is a big, a big void 237 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,500 like we've had described to us. 238 00:10:37,667 --> 00:10:38,667 Excellent. 239 00:10:38,833 --> 00:10:40,500 Also, I want to continue expanding the effort 240 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:41,917 out into the homestead, of course, 241 00:10:42,042 --> 00:10:44,625 but also, we have this opportunity 242 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:46,500 right out there at the triangle. 243 00:10:46,583 --> 00:10:47,667 Yeah. 244 00:10:47,833 --> 00:10:49,500 TRAVIS: Over the past three years, 245 00:10:49,667 --> 00:10:51,833 we've been perplexed by a zone 246 00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:55,417 about a mile above a place on the ranch we call the triangle. 247 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:58,167 We've got liftoff. 248 00:10:58,292 --> 00:11:00,750 TRAVIS: Oh, my God, during launch, the electromagnetic spectrum 249 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:03,750 is going crazy, guys. I've never seen anything like it. 250 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:06,833 TRAVIS: We've detected the 1.6 gigahertz signal there, 251 00:11:06,917 --> 00:11:09,083 and we've seen rockets 252 00:11:09,208 --> 00:11:11,750 and lasers deflected by some invisible 253 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:14,083 force or object. 254 00:11:15,458 --> 00:11:17,792 So, I'm showing radar altimeter, it's showing 255 00:11:17,875 --> 00:11:19,833 we're only 40 feet above the ground right now. 256 00:11:19,917 --> 00:11:21,333 TRAVIS: We also took 257 00:11:21,417 --> 00:11:23,833 Brandon's helicopter up there to scan it 258 00:11:23,958 --> 00:11:26,125 and had a shadowy UAP fly 259 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:29,542 back and forth about 40 feet below us. 260 00:11:29,708 --> 00:11:30,833 -TRAVIS: See that? -BRANDON: My gosh. 261 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:32,292 TRAVIS: And last year... 262 00:11:32,375 --> 00:11:33,667 Here. 263 00:11:33,833 --> 00:11:35,917 This thing's really clipping along. 264 00:11:36,042 --> 00:11:36,833 Oh, my gosh. 265 00:11:36,958 --> 00:11:38,875 It disappeared. Can you replay that? 266 00:11:39,042 --> 00:11:41,667 TRAVIS: We watched a UAP ascend from the mesa 267 00:11:41,833 --> 00:11:43,583 toward that mile-high zone 268 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:45,875 and then just vanish into thin air. 269 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:48,000 BRANDON: Are we seeing portals open? 270 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:49,667 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Brandon's not crazy 271 00:11:49,792 --> 00:11:51,000 to mention portals. 272 00:11:51,125 --> 00:11:52,917 People, including scientists, 273 00:11:53,042 --> 00:11:55,542 have reported seeing portals here for years. 274 00:11:55,708 --> 00:11:57,708 I just don't know what to make of all that yet. 275 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:02,667 There's a level of anomalous phenomena 276 00:12:02,792 --> 00:12:05,292 happening over the triangle that, somehow, 277 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:06,583 we need a better handle on. 278 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:08,000 BRYANT: That begs the question, then. 279 00:12:08,167 --> 00:12:11,167 -How do we follow up? -So, I'm contemplating 280 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:14,250 a new experiment, you know, taking a-a slam scanner, 281 00:12:14,375 --> 00:12:17,500 a LIDAR-based device, up into the air with the helicopter. 282 00:12:17,625 --> 00:12:20,167 TRAVIS: That's a good idea. You know, it would be nice to have 283 00:12:20,333 --> 00:12:22,375 a really good LIDAR measurement at altitude, 284 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:25,500 at 5,000 feet, right over the center of the triangle. 285 00:12:25,625 --> 00:12:27,000 Could we do that with a helicopter? 286 00:12:27,125 --> 00:12:29,333 How heavy is this equipment? 287 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,667 Well, it's-it's handheld. It's a handheld LIDAR device. 288 00:12:31,792 --> 00:12:33,667 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: So, we'll open the doors, 289 00:12:33,792 --> 00:12:36,750 and-and fly around the perimetry of it, 290 00:12:36,875 --> 00:12:39,500 holding the LIDAR out the edge of the door 291 00:12:39,667 --> 00:12:42,500 and-and mapping as we go. It takes its own 292 00:12:42,667 --> 00:12:44,958 GPS information, which will be interesting 293 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:47,292 if it gets anomalous behavior from that. 294 00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:50,042 So, while members of the team are out there conducting 295 00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:52,583 these experiments, I think it would be smart to have 296 00:12:52,708 --> 00:12:55,167 Tom and Kandus and Jim 297 00:12:55,250 --> 00:12:57,208 move out to the community in order 298 00:12:57,375 --> 00:13:01,000 to interview those who will bring additional information 299 00:13:01,083 --> 00:13:02,333 and experiences to light. 300 00:13:02,417 --> 00:13:04,333 JIM: I'm actually finding the community, 301 00:13:04,417 --> 00:13:05,875 uh, willing to embrace us. 302 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,917 I think a lot of it is because of the credibility 303 00:13:08,042 --> 00:13:09,083 that we bring to the table. 304 00:13:09,208 --> 00:13:10,375 KANDUS: Yeah, so we are excited. 305 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,833 We have a lot of leads in the community this year. 306 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,292 -Yeah, so that stigma is breaking down... -Mm-hmm. 307 00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:17,333 ...like we've-we've said, 308 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:20,833 and it is easier to get people to-to speak. 309 00:13:20,958 --> 00:13:22,333 BRANDON: Well, for you, 310 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:24,667 for Jim and you, 311 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:26,167 thank you for building those relationships. 312 00:13:26,292 --> 00:13:28,542 Yeah, thank you. You bet. Thank you. 313 00:13:28,667 --> 00:13:30,833 Thank you, everyone, for your continued hard work. 314 00:13:30,917 --> 00:13:32,375 We all have our marching orders. 315 00:13:32,542 --> 00:13:34,333 Let's press onward. 316 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:35,583 -Thank you. -Thanks, Brandon. 317 00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:38,458 Fantastic. Let's get to work, guys. We got a lot to do. 318 00:13:45,250 --> 00:13:46,250 BRANDON: Hey, fellas. 319 00:13:46,375 --> 00:13:48,667 Finally meeting the great Pete Kelsey. 320 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:50,000 -Finally meeting you. -Thank you. 321 00:13:50,125 --> 00:13:53,333 After our first meeting, technologist Pete Kelsey arrived 322 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,125 to help us with our first experiment 323 00:13:55,250 --> 00:13:56,583 of the year at the triangle. 324 00:13:56,708 --> 00:13:58,042 Over the last couple of years, 325 00:13:58,208 --> 00:14:00,333 he's brought in numerous scanning devices 326 00:14:00,458 --> 00:14:03,958 that have detected a lot of phenomena all across the ranch. 327 00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:06,833 So, what do we have here? 328 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,875 PETE: That is the Hovermap. 329 00:14:09,042 --> 00:14:11,333 Um, basically, handheld LIDAR. 330 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,833 I'm gonna strap myself to your helicopter 331 00:14:14,958 --> 00:14:17,375 and see what we get. 332 00:14:17,542 --> 00:14:20,667 Are you saying you're going to literally hang outside 333 00:14:20,792 --> 00:14:24,750 the helicopter and scan the space with this device? 334 00:14:24,875 --> 00:14:27,292 With your permission, of course. 335 00:14:27,417 --> 00:14:28,583 Okay. 336 00:14:28,708 --> 00:14:32,000 TRAVIS: As Cameron Fugal flies me and Pete Kelsey 337 00:14:32,125 --> 00:14:35,167 up through the triangle, Pete will be strapped in 338 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:37,333 and scanning the area with a LIDAR device. 339 00:14:37,417 --> 00:14:40,208 It works by emitting infrared laser light 340 00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:42,375 that we hope will reveal anything 341 00:14:42,542 --> 00:14:44,958 that can't be seen with the naked eye, 342 00:14:45,083 --> 00:14:47,958 and might help explain all the UAPs 343 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:50,292 and other phenomena we've detected up there. 344 00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:53,833 So, that is the first part of our exercise today. 345 00:14:53,958 --> 00:14:56,333 -There's a second part. -What's that? 346 00:14:56,458 --> 00:15:00,083 TRAVIS: Erik's gonna turn on a broadcast 347 00:15:00,208 --> 00:15:01,833 of the 1.6 gigahertz signal. Right? 348 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:05,500 Then, when we get to 5,000 feet, these guys 349 00:15:05,583 --> 00:15:07,500 are gonna launch a rocket 350 00:15:07,625 --> 00:15:09,583 from here. Now, it's gonna go up 351 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:11,667 probably to about 1,500 feet, no more than 2,000 feet. 352 00:15:11,833 --> 00:15:14,083 I-I feel comfortable with that. 353 00:15:14,208 --> 00:15:17,250 Now, uh, isn't-- aren't rockets 354 00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:21,833 and broadcasting at 1.6 how you make things happen here? 355 00:15:21,958 --> 00:15:22,833 THOMAS: Yeah. 356 00:15:22,917 --> 00:15:24,667 ERIK: Now, the first part 357 00:15:24,792 --> 00:15:26,167 of our exercise today 358 00:15:26,292 --> 00:15:28,417 is an area on the eastern side of the property 359 00:15:28,542 --> 00:15:31,708 where we've seen anomalous data in our photogrammetry, 360 00:15:31,833 --> 00:15:33,833 -suggestive of something. -THOMAS: Yeah. 361 00:15:33,917 --> 00:15:35,833 Pete, you caught this with your first scan 362 00:15:35,958 --> 00:15:36,833 with the photogrammetry. 363 00:15:36,958 --> 00:15:38,542 Now, you get to go hover 364 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:39,833 above it in a helicopter and see 365 00:15:39,958 --> 00:15:41,458 if you can catch it with your LIDAR. 366 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:43,958 TRAVIS: The east field is a location 367 00:15:44,042 --> 00:15:46,125 about a half a mile from the triangle 368 00:15:46,208 --> 00:15:48,667 where some of the strangest things have happened 369 00:15:48,833 --> 00:15:50,375 during our investigation. 370 00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:51,583 Spinning up. 371 00:15:51,708 --> 00:15:54,208 TRAVIS: Right at the end of last year, 372 00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:57,000 Pete conducted a photogrammetry scan in the east field 373 00:15:57,167 --> 00:15:59,583 near a mysterious circle of stones 374 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:01,167 that sits up on the mesa. 375 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,333 According to Navajo historian Jon Dover, 376 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,167 ancient Indigenous people created the feature 377 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,458 to represent a portal on Skinwalker Ranch. 378 00:16:10,542 --> 00:16:11,292 Whoa. 379 00:16:11,417 --> 00:16:12,292 -ERIK: Okay. -THOMAS: In the sky. 380 00:16:12,417 --> 00:16:13,333 -KALEB: Right there. -ERIK: Yes. 381 00:16:13,458 --> 00:16:15,750 -TRAVIS: Oh, weird. -ERIK: Yes. 382 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:19,958 TRAVIS: Well, what Pete's scanner detected just blew us away. 383 00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:23,333 -ERIK: Look at this structure. -That's nuts. 384 00:16:23,458 --> 00:16:25,333 ERIK: Well, just think about what it would mean 385 00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:28,000 if we saw the same kind of anomaly 386 00:16:28,125 --> 00:16:30,583 with two completely different technologies. 387 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:31,792 Yeah, yeah. 388 00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:36,250 Well, let's go ahead and, uh, commence the experiment. 389 00:16:36,375 --> 00:16:39,208 -What all goes? Everything? -Everything. 390 00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:41,417 ERIK: It's generally true, in science, that we place 391 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,000 the highest confidence in results that repeat themselves. 392 00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:46,333 So, as we survey 393 00:16:46,417 --> 00:16:47,917 just over the east field here 394 00:16:48,042 --> 00:16:50,125 and in the vicinity of the triangle... 395 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:51,375 -Thank you. -You bet. 396 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,000 ERIK: ...we want to understand 397 00:16:53,083 --> 00:16:55,917 whether we're dealing with a persistent effect 398 00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:59,458 in those two regions of the ranch because we have no idea. 399 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:02,000 TRAVIS: All right, so let's figure out what hardpoint we want 400 00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:03,917 -to snap to. -Okay, let's go around. 401 00:17:04,042 --> 00:17:06,125 While Pete scans with his LIDAR device 402 00:17:06,208 --> 00:17:07,875 out the open door of the helicopter, 403 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,417 I'll be right beside him watching the monitor 404 00:17:10,542 --> 00:17:13,667 to see if the LIDAR picks up any structure or objects. 405 00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:17,292 Let me have that rocket motor and that igniter. 406 00:17:17,417 --> 00:17:19,625 TRAVIS: Meanwhile, Dragon, Kaleb and Thomas 407 00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:22,083 will be on the ready to launch rockets. 408 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,292 They'll also be broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz 409 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:28,708 communication signal that we've recorded in the past... 410 00:17:28,875 --> 00:17:32,167 -All right, well, we're all set up in here. -Great. 411 00:17:32,292 --> 00:17:34,500 TRAVIS: ...which Erik and Brandon will be monitoring 412 00:17:34,583 --> 00:17:36,792 on his systems during the experiment. 413 00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:40,000 Both of these tools have been very effective in stimulating 414 00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:42,500 bizarre activity on the ranch in the past, 415 00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:45,042 so, hopefully, by the end of today, 416 00:17:45,167 --> 00:17:47,500 we'll get some answers about these locations. 417 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,000 TRAVIS: Hey, guys, 418 00:17:49,125 --> 00:17:51,125 uh, we're ready to go in the chopper. 419 00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:54,333 All right, copy that. You guys be careful up there. 420 00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:55,667 We don't want to lose Pete. 421 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:58,750 We've got him tied in with four different ways. 422 00:17:58,875 --> 00:18:00,542 Everything's checked. 423 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,292 BRYANT: This year, the first experiment we're gonna try 424 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:06,167 involves having one our experts hanging out of a helicopter. 425 00:18:06,292 --> 00:18:07,667 I don't know what's gonna happen, 426 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,417 but this is a pretty dangerous experiment, 427 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,625 and I hope it yields some results. 428 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:14,375 Here we go. Hang on, Pete. 429 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,958 TRAVIS: First, go hit the east field, okay? 430 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,167 CAMERON: All right. 431 00:18:27,292 --> 00:18:29,667 BRANDON: Now, we're tracking. 432 00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:33,542 Hopefully, we'll be able to capture something interesting. 433 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:35,292 Yeah, every time Pete's been out here, 434 00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:36,542 something interesting has happened. 435 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,250 Well, this will be good. 436 00:18:38,375 --> 00:18:42,625 Activity is unpredictable at Skinwalker Ranch. 437 00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:46,167 But we've found that there are certain methods 438 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:49,583 that you can utilize in order to stimulate response. 439 00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:54,042 This very aggressive experiment is an important part 440 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:56,208 of this stage of the investigation and we are 441 00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:58,542 committed to getting the answers. 442 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:03,542 Bryant, I just turned it on. 443 00:19:03,708 --> 00:19:07,500 Will you radio Erik and see if they're seeing it? 444 00:19:07,583 --> 00:19:09,333 Erik, 445 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:14,042 Thomas has just turned on the 1.6. 446 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:16,333 Just confirming if you can see that signal or not. 447 00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:18,000 Yeah, I've got good signal. 448 00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:20,000 BRYANT: Terrific. 449 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,083 Well, we're broadcasting the 1.6, so... 450 00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,792 we'll see if that causes any reaction. 451 00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:30,500 TRAVIS: All right, the east field. 452 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:33,292 We should be about over it right in here. 453 00:19:33,417 --> 00:19:34,750 CAMERON: Okay. 454 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:36,917 -All right, I'm gonna start scanning. -TRAVIS: Yup. 455 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,750 -All right. -Okay. 456 00:19:40,083 --> 00:19:42,250 All right, nice and easy, Cameron. 457 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:44,667 All right, we're going. 458 00:19:44,792 --> 00:19:47,458 I see the ground. 459 00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:59,000 We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit. 460 00:19:59,083 --> 00:20:03,333 But there's no freaking wind. 461 00:20:03,458 --> 00:20:06,250 -Whoa! Whoa! -Whoa! 462 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,625 We're getting our asses kicked. 463 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,708 Feel that, that's just crazy. 464 00:20:14,875 --> 00:20:16,500 (grunting) 465 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:19,500 -Oh, wow! We're getting something. -CAMERON: What?! 466 00:20:19,625 --> 00:20:23,292 TRAVIS: We are getting an anomaly in the air right now! 467 00:20:23,417 --> 00:20:25,833 -Right there. -You're kidding! 468 00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:27,750 No, I am not kidding. 469 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,125 TRAVIS: We're getting a significant anomaly 470 00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:38,333 in the air right now. 471 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,250 It was clearly an anomaly floating in the sky. 472 00:20:41,375 --> 00:20:42,375 I've been following them. 473 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:43,792 I know, I don't see anything either. 474 00:20:43,917 --> 00:20:47,167 The helicopter is getting buffeted out of the way 475 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,500 like there's a vortex or something here. 476 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,000 This is crazy. 477 00:20:54,083 --> 00:20:57,042 TRAVIS: Right where we obtained photogrammetry images 478 00:20:57,208 --> 00:20:59,208 of a mysterious column-shaped anomaly 479 00:20:59,375 --> 00:21:01,417 above the east field one year ago... 480 00:21:02,667 --> 00:21:05,000 There are some very interesting artifacts showing up. 481 00:21:05,125 --> 00:21:06,875 TRAVIS: Whoa. 482 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,125 TRAVIS: Pete Kelsey's LIDAR scanner, which emits infrared light, 483 00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:14,500 detected an image of something about 300 feet up in the air. 484 00:21:14,583 --> 00:21:17,500 And what was even crazier was that some kind 485 00:21:17,583 --> 00:21:20,667 of invisible force was literally pushing 486 00:21:20,792 --> 00:21:23,583 Brandon's helicopter around in midair. 487 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,125 It looks like it's being pushed around 488 00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,583 from the ground right now. 489 00:21:30,542 --> 00:21:32,792 They're getting pushed around. 490 00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,333 You can see the helicopter, like, rocking. 491 00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,125 BRYANT: And I'm picking up nothing just visually. 492 00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:39,708 Wow! 493 00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:45,417 What the hell is going on? 494 00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:47,417 -You see how he's moving? -Yeah. 495 00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:51,000 Oh, my gosh, you can see. Look at that. 496 00:21:54,542 --> 00:21:56,208 THOMAS: The helicopter definitely looks like 497 00:21:56,333 --> 00:21:57,750 it's rocking around down here. 498 00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:03,542 TRAVIS: The outside wind speeds 499 00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:05,917 that registered on the helicopter's instruments 500 00:22:06,042 --> 00:22:07,458 were totally insignificant. 501 00:22:07,542 --> 00:22:10,542 It was just this strange, invisible force 502 00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:13,667 that we couldn't see pushing us around. 503 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:16,375 I have no scientific explanation for it. 504 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:18,583 I just know it's where we saw 505 00:22:18,708 --> 00:22:21,667 a column-shaped anomaly above the stone circle last year 506 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:24,042 and now an object of some kind 507 00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:25,667 on the LIDAR readout. 508 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:27,625 I think we're good. We've got a really nice 509 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:29,250 3D map of the entire area. 510 00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,167 -Cameron, I think we're good. -Okay. 511 00:22:31,292 --> 00:22:33,792 TRAVIS: I say we fly right by the triangle. 512 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,042 PETE: Yep. 513 00:22:49,917 --> 00:22:51,792 TRAVIS: I couldn't believe what had happened to us 514 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:54,375 over the east field and the preliminary data 515 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,000 we got on Pete's LIDAR scanner. 516 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:57,833 It still needed to be processed, 517 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,208 but based on our experiences so far, 518 00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:01,625 we were really anxious 519 00:23:01,708 --> 00:23:04,208 about what we might find above the triangle. 520 00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:06,000 I mean, we're at the triangle right now. 521 00:23:06,125 --> 00:23:09,000 PETE: All right, so give me about ten seconds 522 00:23:09,167 --> 00:23:11,333 and we'll be scanning. 523 00:23:11,458 --> 00:23:13,250 TRAVIS: Uh, it's running, it says. 524 00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,042 PETE: Are you seeing data then? 525 00:23:16,167 --> 00:23:17,250 TRAVIS: Nothing yet. 526 00:23:17,375 --> 00:23:21,375 Holy cow, there's something right outside the aircraft. 527 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:23,542 -You're kidding! -TRAVIS: No, I am not kidding. 528 00:23:23,708 --> 00:23:24,792 You were at 300 feet 529 00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:27,042 and were detecting an object in the air. 530 00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:28,417 CAMERON: What?! 531 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:32,333 Copy you, Cameron. 532 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,917 PETE: You've got to be kidding me. 533 00:23:34,042 --> 00:23:37,208 We are about 300 feet above ground level. 534 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:38,583 You can see the green is the ground 535 00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:39,792 and the red is the thing. 536 00:23:39,917 --> 00:23:42,208 -PETE: This is unbelievable. -Unbelievable. 537 00:23:42,375 --> 00:23:44,333 TRAVIS: In the past, all the phenomena we've detected 538 00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:48,250 above the triangle has been nearly a mile up in the air. 539 00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:49,958 But as soon as Pete started scanning 540 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,917 with the LIDAR, he detected something strange 541 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:56,000 beginning at an altitude of just about 300 feet. 542 00:23:56,125 --> 00:23:58,500 We had never seen anything at the triangle 543 00:23:58,625 --> 00:24:00,250 that close to the ground before. 544 00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,167 They're climbing. 545 00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:06,250 I don't know why, but I feel really nervous about this. 546 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:20,125 TRAVIS: It froze up, Pete. It's checking something. 547 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:21,917 PETE: Nah, it's scanning. 548 00:24:22,042 --> 00:24:24,125 Yeah, well, it's telling me that it's checking. 549 00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:25,500 It's not writing any more data. 550 00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:27,167 PETE: All right, stand by. 551 00:24:34,917 --> 00:24:38,125 No, it says it's disconnected, which is odd. 552 00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:42,000 Disconnected? That doesn't make any sense. 553 00:24:42,083 --> 00:24:43,667 Wow, that's weird. 554 00:24:43,792 --> 00:24:46,792 Hey, well, your GPS is off from your pressure. 555 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,667 TRAVIS: We're-we're getting discrepancies, right now. 556 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:01,333 Command Center, how you doing? This is Cameron. 557 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:03,500 (static) 558 00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:05,167 TRAVIS: So the ground went away. 559 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:07,667 It was green and now the ground's turned red. 560 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:12,083 And, uh, the anomaly above it is-is still red. 561 00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:13,833 I think we need to set down and reset this thing. 562 00:25:13,917 --> 00:25:14,875 Okay. 563 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,958 PETE: All right, I'm going to stop scanning. 564 00:25:22,375 --> 00:25:23,458 -(instruments beeping) -Uh... 565 00:25:23,542 --> 00:25:25,042 TRAVIS: Whoa. 566 00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:28,000 Oh, my goodness. 567 00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:29,083 TRAVIS: Whoa. 568 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:44,917 Why'd they land in the field? 569 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,667 Radio them. 570 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,958 Travis, do you copy? 571 00:25:56,667 --> 00:26:00,167 Hey, Erik, do you copy inside the Command Center? 572 00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:01,958 Yes, I do. What's up? 573 00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:03,583 BRYANT: I want to reach out to Cameron. 574 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:05,167 They ended up landing out in the field 575 00:26:05,292 --> 00:26:07,167 for some odd reason. 576 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:08,583 ERIK: In the field? 577 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,333 We're reset, we're about to relaunch 578 00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,333 and go do it again. 579 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,042 BRYANT: Copy that. 580 00:26:29,167 --> 00:26:31,625 We'll keep our eyes on you as well. 581 00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,125 TRAVIS: Yep. 582 00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:50,417 TRAVIS: Understood. 583 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:54,000 After we finished our LIDAR scan above the east field, 584 00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:57,167 we were eager to head southwest to the triangle. 585 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:02,167 -All right, I'm going to start scanning. -Yep. 586 00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:03,958 Just let me know when you've got data. 587 00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:05,250 We're getting data right now, 588 00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:08,750 there is something right outside the aircraft. 589 00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:13,625 As soon as we approached the triangle, 590 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:16,292 we started detecting some kind of anomaly again 591 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,500 right around 300 feet high. 592 00:27:18,625 --> 00:27:19,750 I was getting really anxious 593 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,083 about what was going to happen next. 594 00:27:24,167 --> 00:27:26,792 Just start spiraling up, Cameron. 595 00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:39,208 Copy you, Cameron. 596 00:27:51,583 --> 00:27:53,375 -Holy cow! -PETE: What, what, what? 597 00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:54,833 Look at that. 598 00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:57,833 -You see it? -PETE: Yes. 599 00:27:57,917 --> 00:27:59,375 TRAVIS: We've got an anomaly, 600 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,958 a clear anomaly right beside us. 601 00:28:04,208 --> 00:28:06,958 We've had eyes on it with three sets of binoculars 602 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:08,708 and we've seen nothing. 603 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,708 TRAVIS: Uh, we at 5,000 feet? 604 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,250 We're almost there. 605 00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,250 Tell them to launch. 606 00:28:26,375 --> 00:28:28,833 TRAVIS: Right as we reached the mile-high zone, 607 00:28:28,917 --> 00:28:31,417 this huge mass showed up on the LIDAR, 608 00:28:31,542 --> 00:28:34,000 and with the 1.6 gigahertz signal being broadcast, 609 00:28:34,167 --> 00:28:36,167 it was time to launch a rocket 610 00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:38,125 and poke this nest as hard as we could. 611 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,750 Three, two, one! 612 00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,292 There it goes! 613 00:29:00,208 --> 00:29:01,542 Yeah. 614 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,167 TRAVIS: Which is what we've seen before, Cameron. 615 00:29:14,333 --> 00:29:15,792 Right here. 616 00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:42,583 TRAVIS: Wow. 617 00:29:47,042 --> 00:29:49,208 -Whoa! Whoa! -CAMERON: Whoa! 618 00:29:52,167 --> 00:29:53,333 PETE: There you go. 619 00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,208 TRAVIS: Wow. 620 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,083 (instruments beeping) 621 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:18,958 (beeping) 622 00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,042 Yeah, we got a downdraft right there. 623 00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:30,833 -A little ass kick there. -CAMERON: Yeah, yeah. 624 00:30:30,958 --> 00:30:31,917 TRAVIS: As we approached the mile-high zone 625 00:30:32,042 --> 00:30:33,375 above the triangle, 626 00:30:33,542 --> 00:30:37,667 where we saw a UAP literally disappear one year ago, 627 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,833 really strange winds started encircling 628 00:30:39,958 --> 00:30:41,583 the helicopter like a vortex. 629 00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:43,042 It really made me nervous 630 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:45,792 about what the hell we were flying into. 631 00:30:45,917 --> 00:30:47,250 Yeah, I think it's time to abort. 632 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:54,208 Copy you, Cameron. We will clear the helipad. 633 00:30:54,375 --> 00:30:57,042 ERIK: It's exciting to see that we're getting 634 00:30:57,167 --> 00:30:58,417 interesting returns in real time 635 00:30:58,542 --> 00:31:02,000 over the east field and over the triangle. 636 00:31:02,083 --> 00:31:03,500 -Pretty wild. -Holy crap. 637 00:31:03,583 --> 00:31:06,875 I really want to know are these real features that we're seeing? 638 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,625 Shake my hand. 639 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:09,958 Heck yeah. 640 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,125 Wow, you guys. 641 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,875 TRAVIS: Y'all are not going to believe this. 642 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000 THOMAS: Well, Pete's face has me thinking 643 00:31:17,083 --> 00:31:19,000 you guys caught something amazing. 644 00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:20,000 What did you see? 645 00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:21,125 TRAVIS: There is an anomaly 646 00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:23,208 that this LIDAR picked up in midair! 647 00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:26,083 300 or 400 feet above the ground. 648 00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:28,750 It's impossible. It's impossible. 649 00:31:28,875 --> 00:31:30,208 It remained there, too. 650 00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,583 It wasn't a quick blip. As we circled 651 00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:34,167 and made orbits, it-it remained. 652 00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,458 Let's process the data as soon as possible. 653 00:31:36,542 --> 00:31:39,292 Cameron and I want a full report at earliest convenience. 654 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,042 Well, we got to go crunch some data. 655 00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:42,208 -Yes, we do. -Okay. 656 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:45,208 -Yeah, let's go. -Let's get on that data! 657 00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:46,750 -Yeah. -I want to take this harness off! 658 00:31:46,875 --> 00:31:48,333 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 659 00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:56,000 ERIK: Well, guys, we've got Brandon and Cameron and Pete 660 00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:57,083 on the line for video call. 661 00:31:57,208 --> 00:31:58,375 TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. 662 00:31:58,542 --> 00:31:59,458 Hey, Brandon. 663 00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:00,667 Hey, greetings. 664 00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:02,250 It's good to be with you. 665 00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,250 TRAVIS: Pete Kelsey spent two days processing 666 00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,500 all the LIDAR data we collected 667 00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:08,417 above the east field and the triangle, 668 00:32:08,542 --> 00:32:10,708 so we couldn't wait to review it with him and Brandon. 669 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:14,292 We needed to figure out what we'd encountered up there 670 00:32:14,417 --> 00:32:15,833 that had affected the helicopter's flight 671 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,083 and controls so dramatically. 672 00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:21,833 PETE: This is the data from the helicopter flight. 673 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:25,125 TRAVIS: So here we are over the east field. 674 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:29,500 PETE: What you're seeing, the icon of course is us. 675 00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:32,917 The magenta line is our trajectory, 676 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:35,500 that is the direction we're flying. 677 00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:38,917 And we can see that the data is following the aircraft. 678 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:42,250 TRAVIS: Something about it that was-- oh, right there it did... 679 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,250 See how it's doing these zigzag jumps? 680 00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:46,000 Something moved the helicopter. 681 00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:47,333 It-it was unbelievable. 682 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,458 I mean, we were all like, "Whoa! What was that?!" 683 00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:52,958 It wasn't just left and right oscillations, 684 00:32:53,042 --> 00:32:54,333 it was forward and aft, 685 00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:56,875 left and right all almost simultaneous. 686 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,500 It was as if you had two magnets 687 00:32:59,583 --> 00:33:01,500 next to each other, repelling each other. 688 00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:03,667 Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off. 689 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,667 You know, I think that has to mean something. 690 00:33:05,792 --> 00:33:06,958 PETE: That's right. 691 00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:09,083 Now I'll call your attention to... 692 00:33:09,208 --> 00:33:13,417 We have anomalous data in the same general area. 693 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,833 TRAVIS: So, here we are over the east field. 694 00:33:17,958 --> 00:33:19,375 BRANDON: Oh, wow. 695 00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:21,042 This is right where I had the interference 696 00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,500 -with the helicopter as well, isn't it? -Yes. 697 00:33:23,583 --> 00:33:26,833 TRAVIS: And-and there's where I said you know what? 698 00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:28,750 We've got an anomaly in the spot again. 699 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,500 -This red feature. -That red feature floating in midair. 700 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:34,833 Above... And there's no trail to it. 701 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,750 Be advised, I should disclose some issues 702 00:33:37,875 --> 00:33:39,667 with this first scan. 703 00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:43,333 This is the incredibly frustrating part. 704 00:33:43,458 --> 00:33:45,125 I've spoken with the vendor, 705 00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,667 I mean, we've gone through it at length. 706 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:51,542 The vendor looked at this and went, "Nah, you're ghosting." 707 00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:55,000 And ghosting is just... 708 00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:59,292 the scanner picking up probably my feet, the skid. 709 00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:01,875 THOMAS: Well, I would just expect consistency. 710 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,250 You know, if you're picking up returns 711 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,833 from the blades above or the skid below, 712 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 then I would expect to see that through the whole thing, 713 00:34:07,167 --> 00:34:10,833 -but the fact that you're only seeing it over one point... -Yeah. 714 00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:16,208 What is it about this ranch that continues to throw us off? 715 00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:20,458 TRAVIS: It was really sobering to all of us to hear from Pete Kelsey 716 00:34:20,583 --> 00:34:23,125 that the LIDAR data might not have been accurate. 717 00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:25,458 But there were certain things about it 718 00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:27,625 that just couldn't be explained away. 719 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,417 Pete, go forward, let me... I'll tell you when to stop. 720 00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:32,750 Go forward about... Right there, right there. Stop. 721 00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,167 Now, when you look at that, 722 00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:37,083 this is right dead center over 723 00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,708 where the column was there 724 00:34:38,833 --> 00:34:40,917 in your photogrammetry data. 725 00:34:41,042 --> 00:34:42,792 And-and if you look, 726 00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,917 there's no pathway to it, 727 00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:49,958 it's not anomalous features until that spot. 728 00:34:50,042 --> 00:34:51,042 Wow. 729 00:34:51,167 --> 00:34:52,917 TRAVIS: In the exact same spot 730 00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,125 where we identified 731 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,500 the column-like anomaly one year ago, 732 00:34:56,583 --> 00:34:59,750 we now have a second kind of scanning technology 733 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,958 that seems to be detecting something strange again. 734 00:35:03,042 --> 00:35:05,875 If you can back up two frames, Pete. 735 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,458 Stop! Perfect. Look at that. 736 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,417 I-I'm gonna go to the screen 737 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:15,000 So, come on, guys, we've got... 738 00:35:15,167 --> 00:35:16,833 some kind of wing-like features. 739 00:35:16,917 --> 00:35:17,958 I mean, you look at that, 740 00:35:18,042 --> 00:35:20,333 there's three-dimensional detail here. 741 00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:22,125 There was nothing there. 742 00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:23,958 We flew a helicopter and we wouldn't fly 743 00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:25,333 that close to an object like that. 744 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:26,917 This distance right here from there to there 745 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:28,250 is probably ten meters. 746 00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:31,333 Look at it. It tends to have a shape to it. 747 00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,333 CAMERON: Oh, my gosh. 748 00:35:32,417 --> 00:35:33,833 That's actually pretty distinct. 749 00:35:33,958 --> 00:35:36,875 That is compelling. 750 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,583 Now, if we were standing 751 00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:41,917 in the road of the driveway looking north, 752 00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:43,833 and we took Pete's photogrammetry data 753 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:44,958 and overlaid it on this image, 754 00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:47,750 you would see the pillar 755 00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:49,000 come up just like this. 756 00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,292 Right where this spot is. 757 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Wow. 758 00:35:58,167 --> 00:35:59,250 TRAVIS: In the same spot 759 00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:01,250 where we detected a column-shaped anomaly last year, 760 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:02,667 our LIDAR experiment 761 00:36:02,792 --> 00:36:06,333 may have also identified something strange. 762 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:08,833 And this is right near a location 763 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,333 on top of the mesa 764 00:36:10,458 --> 00:36:12,250 where ancient Indigenous people 765 00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:15,208 built a stone monument that's meant to represent 766 00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,583 a portal on Skinwalker Ranch. 767 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:19,417 BRANDON: What could that be? 768 00:36:19,542 --> 00:36:20,833 We don't know what it is, 769 00:36:20,958 --> 00:36:23,667 but there's something that was anomalous about that spot, 770 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:27,167 and we got it on multiple sensors now, at least two. 771 00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,167 BRANDON: I'm sitting here just stunned 772 00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,417 because, I mean, no matter what, 773 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,792 we're dealing with something that is a mystery. 774 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:37,250 And that it's only over the east field? 775 00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:39,708 Oh, it happened at the triangle, too. 776 00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:42,375 PETE: All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now 777 00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:44,417 -is the data at the triangle. -Yep. 778 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:48,667 PETE: There is what appears to be ghosting 779 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:52,208 along the trajectory that we actually flew. 780 00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:54,583 TRAVIS: But why so many in the one spot 781 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:57,542 as we're, uh, circling around the triangle? 782 00:36:57,708 --> 00:37:00,750 Well, again, I would expect if you're seeing, uh, 783 00:37:00,875 --> 00:37:04,208 returns from either the-the blades above 784 00:37:04,375 --> 00:37:06,000 or the-the skid below, 785 00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:08,292 that it would be consistent through the whole flight. 786 00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:10,667 But that's the weird part. Why is it not? 787 00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:15,167 PETE: So, I-I'm with you, I mean, there's no trajectory line 788 00:37:15,292 --> 00:37:17,292 where this first showed up. You see that? 789 00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:19,333 -Yep. -PETE: To cut to the chase, 790 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,833 I don't think this is 100% conclusive in either direction. 791 00:37:23,958 --> 00:37:25,333 I-I agree with that. 792 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,333 BRANDON: Yeah, it is so frustrating, 793 00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:30,583 because it seems like we're so close 794 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,083 to understanding what we are dealing with. 795 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,500 We're seeing these things appearing 796 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:38,125 that have no conventional explanation. 797 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:41,125 It-It's so damn elusive. 798 00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:43,583 I... If there's any way 799 00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:47,292 we can execute on another experiment 800 00:37:47,417 --> 00:37:49,792 in rapid succession to this, 801 00:37:49,875 --> 00:37:51,708 to seize this moment, 802 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:55,167 and get some answers, I say go for it. 803 00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:57,167 TRAVIS: Well, uh, first and foremost, 804 00:37:57,292 --> 00:37:58,833 Pete, uh, and Cameron, 805 00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:01,167 the two of you may recall, but if I recall, 806 00:38:01,292 --> 00:38:03,333 I think we were about, uh... 807 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,000 300, 400 feet or something like that, right? 808 00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:07,500 Seems about right. 809 00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:08,792 ERIK: There's something new here. 810 00:38:08,917 --> 00:38:11,625 You know, uh, some of the interesting returns 811 00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:13,292 were happening at much lower altitudes 812 00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,167 than, uh, we've, uh... 813 00:38:16,292 --> 00:38:18,917 -A thousand feet or more lower. -ERIK: Right. 814 00:38:19,042 --> 00:38:21,333 During previous experiments at the triangle, 815 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,333 it seemed that different phenomena 816 00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:25,375 occurred about 5,000 feet high. 817 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,750 But now, if the LIDAR data is correct, 818 00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:30,083 it appears that something is going on between 819 00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:32,000 300 feet and that zone. 820 00:38:32,125 --> 00:38:33,500 Look, you see that? 821 00:38:33,625 --> 00:38:35,167 TRAVIS: I do, did you see it bend? 822 00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:36,875 Dude, did you see that? 823 00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:40,833 TRAVIS: Last year, we were stunned to see lasers projected 824 00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:43,875 up through the triangle mysteriously bend. 825 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,458 There it goes. 826 00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,333 And rockets that we launched up there 827 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,333 get completely deflected off target 828 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,125 by something we couldn't see. 829 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,167 And those things did happen at various altitudes. 830 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:56,833 What was that bend all about? 831 00:38:56,958 --> 00:38:59,083 So, could that mean that the anomalous zone 832 00:38:59,208 --> 00:39:00,625 is shifting along a vertical plane 833 00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:03,417 between 300 and 5,000 feet? 834 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:06,750 Or does it mean that it may cover the entire space? 835 00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:10,083 At this point, we don't know if we can trust the LIDAR data, 836 00:39:10,208 --> 00:39:13,000 so we're gonna have to find another way to verify 837 00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:16,500 what we found at both the triangle and the east field. 838 00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:20,333 We really need to look over the triangle area at, 839 00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:22,250 you know, 400 feet or so. 840 00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:24,542 So how do you envision that being done? 841 00:39:24,708 --> 00:39:29,000 Uh, you know, you could get a-a swarm of drones. 842 00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:31,667 -Because they all fly on GPS coordinates. -I like it. 843 00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:33,167 TRAVIS: And fly them in a grid pattern, 844 00:39:33,292 --> 00:39:34,750 and fly them around out there and see what happens. 845 00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:37,333 And, you know, the way we've seen GPS messed up, 846 00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:38,833 who knows what it would do? 847 00:39:38,958 --> 00:39:40,500 You know, these people probably go... 848 00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:42,167 People that do these drone swarms for like light shows 849 00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:44,708 and stuff, they are precise. 850 00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,125 And the patterns do all these geometric shapes. 851 00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,792 You get them out here and fly them over the triangle 852 00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:50,792 where the GPS messes up, there's no telling what you would see. 853 00:39:50,917 --> 00:39:52,250 BRANDON: No pumping the brakes at this point. 854 00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:54,167 Let's just go full steam ahead. 855 00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,000 TRAVIS: Well, let's do it. Let's move forward. 856 00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:57,667 KALEB: Yeah, let's go. 857 00:39:58,833 --> 00:40:01,000 TRAVIS: There's something odd going on at this ranch. 858 00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:03,875 I want to know the answer to so many things. 859 00:40:04,042 --> 00:40:06,625 Just what in the world is going on here? 860 00:40:07,583 --> 00:40:09,417 ERIK: Every time we begin this work, 861 00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:11,500 I never know what to expect. 862 00:40:11,625 --> 00:40:15,583 And I've been surprised if not shocked by the outcome 863 00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:18,500 of each of our aggressive experiments. 864 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,000 This year, we have some things in mind 865 00:40:20,083 --> 00:40:21,833 that might also be considered aggressive, 866 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,917 but also visionary 867 00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:25,583 and quite different from what we've done before. 868 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,250 BRYANT: Coming into this investigation, 869 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:30,458 we had such little information. 870 00:40:30,583 --> 00:40:31,792 But now it's coming to light 871 00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:34,250 that so many different government entities 872 00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:35,875 were so interested in this place, 873 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,417 it makes me feel like we're truly on to something 874 00:40:38,542 --> 00:40:40,333 and all eyes are watching. 875 00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:43,167 BRANDON: My hope is to find answers. 876 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:46,000 Gain new insights, be able to understand 877 00:40:46,167 --> 00:40:49,125 the nature of what we are dealing with at the ranch. 878 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:52,375 The deeper down the rabbit hole that we travel, 879 00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:54,958 the more complex that it appears. 880 00:40:55,083 --> 00:40:59,167 There are no easy answers at Skinwalker Ranch. 881 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,292 THOMAS: I really don't know what to expect here at the ranch. 882 00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,583 Okay, we've got a light that's moving. 883 00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:05,833 TRAVIS: There it is, right there! 884 00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:08,667 That looks like a bona fide UFO to me. 885 00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:11,375 ERIK: There is something metallic in the mesa. 886 00:41:11,542 --> 00:41:12,708 Whatever this is, is as tall as the mesa. 887 00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:16,125 We should be digging, drilling right there. 888 00:41:16,208 --> 00:41:18,833 BRANDON: The closer that we are getting to the answers, 889 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,750 the more covert military activity. 890 00:41:20,875 --> 00:41:22,542 TRAVIS: We have a helicopter right over the triangle! 891 00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:23,667 BRYANT: It just went dark! 892 00:41:23,833 --> 00:41:25,833 It was a Black Hawk helicopter. 893 00:41:25,958 --> 00:41:28,375 -THOMAS: Somebody's up on the ridge. -TRAVIS: Right there! 894 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,125 BRANDON: We seem to be poking the hornet's nest like never before. 895 00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:33,833 There's a heat source right above them. 896 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:35,000 Do you feel like this may be 897 00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:36,917 -a dangerous area to be working in? -Very. 898 00:41:37,042 --> 00:41:38,958 The coyotes didn't kill this animal. 899 00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:42,583 Middle of the day, an orb like that showing up, that's crazy. 900 00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:44,917 ERIK: This is the largest scale experiment 901 00:41:45,042 --> 00:41:46,500 that we've ever done here so far. 902 00:41:46,625 --> 00:41:49,167 -Fire! -TRAVIS: We've got a malfunction! 903 00:41:49,292 --> 00:41:52,333 There's something in the sky above the rocket! 904 00:41:52,458 --> 00:41:53,250 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 905 00:41:53,375 --> 00:41:55,042 for the first time, guys. 906 00:41:55,208 --> 00:41:56,667 BRYANT: There is definitely something here 907 00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:58,000 on Skinwalker Ranch. 908 00:41:58,125 --> 00:42:00,333 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 70377

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