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Wonderful. 3 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:27,193 People see me as a representative of the I Am, 4 00:00:27,861 --> 00:00:29,112 as Jehovah-Jireh, 5 00:00:29,195 --> 00:00:32,574 some people see a great deal of God in my body. 6 00:00:33,408 --> 00:00:36,161 They see Christ in me, a hope of glory. 7 00:00:36,244 --> 00:00:38,371 [applause] 8 00:00:44,169 --> 00:00:46,755 [Stephan Jones] My dad, he was a fiery speaker. 9 00:00:46,838 --> 00:00:49,215 We are going to have to unite against a common enemy! 10 00:00:49,299 --> 00:00:50,383 [cheering] 11 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:51,968 [Stephan Jones] Incredible voice... 12 00:00:53,136 --> 00:00:54,679 and a wonderful message... 13 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:57,223 [inaudible dialogue] 14 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:59,142 that spoke to almost anyone. 15 00:01:12,822 --> 00:01:17,452 ♪♪ 16 00:01:17,535 --> 00:01:19,871 [helicopter blades whirring] 17 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:24,292 [Peoples Temple member] Hundreds of us here 18 00:01:24,375 --> 00:01:26,586 are so extremely happy, 19 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:29,380 but I just must say this, I can't help but say, 20 00:01:29,464 --> 00:01:31,424 that none of this would've been possible 21 00:01:31,508 --> 00:01:33,593 had it not been for Jim Jones. 22 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:43,812 [♪ ominous music playing] 23 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:46,731 [inaudible dialogue] 24 00:01:46,815 --> 00:01:48,775 -[helicopter blades whirring] -[indistinct radio chatter] 25 00:01:48,858 --> 00:01:51,027 [Charles Krause] We flew in by helicopter 26 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,321 and from the air it just looked like confetti 27 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:56,699 but each one of those pieces of confetti was the shirt 28 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:58,952 or dress of a dead person. 29 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:06,835 ♪♪ 30 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:27,230 ♪♪ 31 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:34,070 [Thom Bogue] Jones would talk about... 32 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:37,240 it would be like the shot heard around the world. 33 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:40,743 And there'll be a record of it. 34 00:02:43,454 --> 00:02:44,998 And it'll never be forgotten. 35 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:51,337 [♪ symphonic theme music playing] 36 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:53,464 [inaudible dialogue] 37 00:02:57,552 --> 00:02:59,554 [♪ music continues] 38 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:06,102 [inaudible dialogue] 39 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:11,065 [inaudible dialogue] 40 00:03:15,653 --> 00:03:17,697 [♪ music continues] 41 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:23,203 [inaudible dialogue] 42 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:35,590 [inaudible dialogue] 43 00:03:35,673 --> 00:03:38,760 [♪ music continues] 44 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:49,020 [inaudible dialogue] 45 00:04:13,711 --> 00:04:15,296 [Yulanda Williams] This was a time in America 46 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:20,009 where people were imagining what society could be. 47 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,304 We had the Black Panthers movement. 48 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:26,391 [all chanting indistinctly] 49 00:04:26,474 --> 00:04:30,144 We also experienced the Hare Krishnas... 50 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:33,439 New Churches, of course. 51 00:04:35,316 --> 00:04:40,405 But most interesting to me was Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple. 52 00:04:41,656 --> 00:04:42,907 [reporter] Reverend Jones, how do you account 53 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:46,411 for such an avid following as you seem to have? 54 00:04:46,494 --> 00:04:49,580 I'm principled and dedicated to my people 55 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:51,791 and they are also committed to the Christian ethic, 56 00:04:51,874 --> 00:04:54,002 the Judeo-Christian ethic of service. 57 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:55,712 We've just kind of grown up together. 58 00:04:57,046 --> 00:04:59,841 ♪♪ 59 00:04:59,924 --> 00:05:03,511 [Williams] It was a church that did good works in the community... 60 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,977 -Thank you, bless you. -[crowd cheering] 61 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:13,396 [Williams] ...with a very charismatic preacher. 62 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:20,111 Now will each of you give a very fond embrace to your neighbor. 63 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,084 [Stephan Jones] Folks have really not done a good job 64 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:38,129 of showing what was attractive about my father. 65 00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:41,424 I'm not here to protect his memory at all 66 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:44,927 but, so, what you see in the media about my father, 67 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:47,430 one who didn't experience the Temple can't help 68 00:05:47,513 --> 00:05:49,932 but think why would anybody follow that guy? 69 00:05:50,016 --> 00:05:52,935 There must've been something wrong with these people from the start. 70 00:05:53,811 --> 00:05:56,647 [indistinct singing] 71 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:02,528 [vocalizing] 72 00:06:02,612 --> 00:06:04,655 Dad was dynamic at times. 73 00:06:06,407 --> 00:06:08,493 In the middle of a service, he would, out of nowhere 74 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:10,286 jump off the stage, 75 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,330 wrap an African-American woman up in his arms 76 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:15,083 and just love her up and kiss her 77 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:17,377 and my heart would melt. 78 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:22,965 [inaudible dialogue] 79 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:25,426 The people who joined it, 80 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:29,305 I adored many people in the Temple. 81 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:32,975 Some of the very, very best people I've ever known. 82 00:06:36,646 --> 00:06:38,815 [Williams] First time that I got there, 83 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:44,278 I was greeted by a rainbow coalition of people, 84 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:48,574 and this was the first time I had been in an atmosphere 85 00:06:48,658 --> 00:06:50,034 where it's one church, 86 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:54,539 multiracial and multigenerational as well. 87 00:06:55,248 --> 00:06:58,459 And then, when I heard Jim Jones, 88 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:02,922 he spoke about how much he respected the Civil Rights Movement 89 00:07:03,005 --> 00:07:05,550 and how important it was that we continued 90 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:08,094 to live out Dr. Martin Luther King's dream. 91 00:07:08,177 --> 00:07:10,388 [inaudible singing] 92 00:07:10,471 --> 00:07:12,723 So, for me, it was excitement. 93 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:15,768 -[crowd cheering] -[inaudible dialogue] 94 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:25,111 [Grace Stoen] I was a member of the Peoples Temple 95 00:07:25,194 --> 00:07:26,737 for six years 96 00:07:26,821 --> 00:07:29,532 and I thought I had a great purpose in my life. 97 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:34,537 I would do anything for Jim Jones, in the beginning anyway. 98 00:07:35,913 --> 00:07:38,708 But over time, Jim started behaving strangely. 99 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:43,129 One night, I went to a meeting after a service. 100 00:07:43,921 --> 00:07:46,257 We were told not to fall asleep and I wanna say 101 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:47,675 it was like three o'clock in the morning. 102 00:07:47,758 --> 00:07:49,677 I remember, I did fall asleep. 103 00:07:53,347 --> 00:07:55,933 I had a gun on my forehead 104 00:07:56,642 --> 00:07:57,894 by Jim Jones and he goes, 105 00:07:57,977 --> 00:08:00,104 "I love you very much but don't fall asleep 106 00:08:00,188 --> 00:08:01,689 'cause I will kill you." 107 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:10,531 [Bogue] Jim Jones, he spoke about the issues 108 00:08:10,615 --> 00:08:12,450 that people cared about during that time. 109 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:16,287 You have to understand, this was a time of great upheaval. 110 00:08:18,414 --> 00:08:20,500 The Vietnam War had just ended. 111 00:08:22,376 --> 00:08:24,212 We had protests going on... 112 00:08:26,422 --> 00:08:28,341 racial divide in our country, 113 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:30,801 and a lot of tension between people. 114 00:08:37,058 --> 00:08:39,101 Jim Jones became friends with these 115 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,103 political people of the day 116 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:45,107 that were being brought into the church to talk before us. 117 00:08:46,442 --> 00:08:48,653 People like Angela Davis... 118 00:08:50,821 --> 00:08:52,114 Harvey Milk... 119 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:55,326 Moscone. 120 00:08:56,744 --> 00:08:59,121 And little did they know after they left, 121 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,582 Jim Jones twisted and represented 122 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:05,044 what they said to show us how evil society was becoming. 123 00:09:05,127 --> 00:09:08,422 The poverty that is reeking at our very doors in every city. 124 00:09:08,506 --> 00:09:10,132 [cheering] 125 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:12,385 [Bogue] So, we would need to 126 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:16,055 go somewhere and develop our own society, 127 00:09:16,138 --> 00:09:17,682 you know, where we could... 128 00:09:18,975 --> 00:09:21,727 build a place where everybody was equal. 129 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:29,277 -[helicopter blades whirring] -[indistinct radio chatter] 130 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:14,030 ♪♪ 131 00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:16,532 My first experience was fantastic. 132 00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:21,871 This is like Mowgli in Jungle Book 133 00:10:22,830 --> 00:10:24,332 to see, oh, you know, look at these 134 00:10:24,415 --> 00:10:27,418 beautiful wild birds and macaws, parrots, 135 00:10:27,501 --> 00:10:29,378 that you rarely got to see in real life 136 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:32,298 and how abundant the wildlife was. 137 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:36,719 It seemed like everybody was just happy 138 00:10:36,802 --> 00:10:40,306 and untethered to the world around us. 139 00:10:43,392 --> 00:10:48,230 I really like it here and it's fun and I really don't wanna go to sleep 140 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:51,484 because it's so fun here and, and there's so much to do. 141 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:55,488 [inaudible dialogue] 142 00:10:56,447 --> 00:10:59,241 They were bringing in electricity... 143 00:11:02,578 --> 00:11:05,915 building beautiful homes where we wouldn't have to pay rent, 144 00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:07,458 all the food we needed, 145 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:11,003 our medical would all be taken care of. 146 00:11:11,962 --> 00:11:15,216 It was something that was absolutely amazing. 147 00:11:15,299 --> 00:11:16,759 [grunting] 148 00:11:19,595 --> 00:11:21,430 We were safe and secure. 149 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,355 The great Utopia, the better life 150 00:11:29,438 --> 00:11:33,192 helping each other as one, big, happy family. 151 00:11:34,402 --> 00:11:35,945 [kids chattering] 152 00:11:36,028 --> 00:11:37,530 [Peoples Temple member] We're building equipment 153 00:11:37,613 --> 00:11:39,615 and doing things to set up a little town, 154 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:42,034 an actual community or a country of our own 155 00:11:42,118 --> 00:11:45,454 where we can live the way we like to live with our own lifestyle 156 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:49,125 not to be interfered with people from the outside world. 157 00:11:55,381 --> 00:11:57,007 [Stoen] I'd left the Peoples Temple, 158 00:11:57,091 --> 00:12:00,136 but I still had loved ones that had moved to Jonestown. 159 00:12:00,678 --> 00:12:03,973 I started hearing that people were being badly mistreated. 160 00:12:04,056 --> 00:12:06,475 People were there against their will 161 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,686 and what people that were there were told 162 00:12:08,769 --> 00:12:12,189 and what they were involved in were quite different, 163 00:12:12,273 --> 00:12:14,859 making their lives a complete misery. 164 00:12:19,363 --> 00:12:23,242 Myself and other relatives approached Congressman Leo Ryan. 165 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:29,039 And many people there were his constituents 166 00:12:29,915 --> 00:12:31,584 and he agreed to help us. 167 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:35,254 [♪ dramatic music playing] 168 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:58,569 Me with other relatives, journalists, a TV news crew 169 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:02,740 and Congressman Ryan with his aide met a JFK Airport. 170 00:13:05,451 --> 00:13:07,119 May I check your sticker there? 171 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:11,373 [Jackie Speier] I was quite anxious about the trip. 172 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:16,378 Of course my mom said, "No, you, you shouldn't go." 173 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:17,546 Um... 174 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,051 You know, this was 1978, there were not many women 175 00:13:22,134 --> 00:13:25,596 as senior staff members in Congress at the time. 176 00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:29,809 And I thought, if I didn't go, this would set women back 177 00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:34,146 in our, um, efforts to be treated equally 178 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,649 and so that was the reason why I went. 179 00:13:41,028 --> 00:13:45,991 We had a duty to protect the American citizens who were there, 180 00:13:46,075 --> 00:13:48,494 constituents of Congressman Ryan. 181 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:50,955 ♪♪ 182 00:13:53,749 --> 00:13:56,502 [Krause] I was 31 years old in 1978. 183 00:13:56,585 --> 00:13:58,462 I had worked for The Washington Post 184 00:13:58,546 --> 00:14:00,589 at that point for about six years. 185 00:14:01,298 --> 00:14:04,134 So I got a call from the editor telling me 186 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:08,180 that there's some Americans living in the jungle in Guyana, 187 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:10,182 the congressman is going down there, 188 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:12,852 and he said, "Yeah, it's becoming a big story." 189 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:15,688 And they wanted me to go with him. 190 00:14:15,771 --> 00:14:19,024 In my mind, it might've been a style story that is a, 191 00:14:19,108 --> 00:14:22,027 you know, a kind of feature about these Americans 192 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:23,696 who had left the United States, 193 00:14:23,779 --> 00:14:27,825 uh, to live in, in, in a very remote part of the world. 194 00:14:35,332 --> 00:14:36,750 [Tim Reiterman] I'd been covering this story 195 00:14:36,834 --> 00:14:39,003 for, you know, for months and months 196 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:44,049 and written a number of stories about Peoples Temple. 197 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:47,052 One man said he escaped from Jonestown. 198 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:49,763 People describe it as, as a work camp, 199 00:14:49,847 --> 00:14:52,308 a real hellish experience 200 00:14:52,391 --> 00:14:57,354 and there was one really important hole in my reporting 201 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,982 and that is that I hadn't been to Jonestown. 202 00:15:02,943 --> 00:15:05,571 I honestly thought the worst thing would happen 203 00:15:05,654 --> 00:15:08,991 would be I would be barred from entering Jonestown 204 00:15:09,074 --> 00:15:11,952 because I was an enemy of the church and they wouldn't let me in. 205 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,379 [inaudible dialogue] 206 00:15:24,340 --> 00:15:25,716 [Stoen] The concerned relatives 207 00:15:25,799 --> 00:15:27,927 that went, you know, of course, we were grateful 208 00:15:28,010 --> 00:15:31,221 that Congressman Ryan, uh, was willing to step in 209 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,891 to help us to see our loved ones. 210 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:38,687 But at the same time, I knew it was very dangerous. 211 00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:41,065 I warned Congressman Ryan, 212 00:15:41,148 --> 00:15:43,817 he said, "Grace, why do you keep saying this?" 213 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:45,819 and I said, "You know, I wasn't there for six years 214 00:15:45,903 --> 00:15:49,490 and not realized what this person's capable of." 215 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:53,285 I felt that at least I was going in with that knowledge 216 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:56,205 and I wanted everybody else to go in with that knowledge. 217 00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:59,667 I remember reminding everybody one more time, 218 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,169 I said, "I just want everybody to know there's a possibility 219 00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:04,254 that you could lose your life." 220 00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:07,216 And I remember a crew member from NBC, 221 00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:11,053 telling me to shut up and I said, "Okay, I'm done. 222 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:14,098 I've, I've warned you people once, twice." 223 00:16:14,181 --> 00:16:15,766 I said, "I'm done." 224 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:21,230 [Krause] I was hearing from the concerned relatives' 225 00:16:21,313 --> 00:16:24,817 stories that seemed really quite amazing, 226 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,988 people were being tortured, people were being starved, 227 00:16:29,071 --> 00:16:30,948 and, you know, that it was a kind of 228 00:16:31,532 --> 00:16:34,243 gulag in, in, in the jungle. 229 00:16:35,035 --> 00:16:38,288 And that could be true, I suppose, 230 00:16:38,372 --> 00:16:40,165 but it sounded almost as if... 231 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:42,167 it sounded like they were exaggerating quite a bit. 232 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:46,088 It just didn't seem possible that it could be that bad. 233 00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,220 ♪♪ 234 00:16:55,556 --> 00:16:59,518 ♪♪ 235 00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:15,159 We got to Georgetown, Guyana, and it was a very tense situation 236 00:17:15,242 --> 00:17:19,163 because we did not have an invitation from Jim Jones 237 00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:22,458 to travel to Jonestown. 238 00:17:25,794 --> 00:17:27,796 So when we arrived, 239 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,841 we immediately got a message from the Peoples Temple 240 00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:32,509 saying, "Stay away." 241 00:17:33,135 --> 00:17:35,471 [Leo Ryan] The petition was handed to us this morning, 242 00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:38,182 which obviously says, uh, "Yankees, go home." 243 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:41,477 And, uh, that's the present, 244 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:46,315 somewhat hostile attitude of the, uh, Peoples Temple. 245 00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:52,946 I'm doing everything I can at this point to give Jones every possible opportunity 246 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:58,160 while we are here to address any one or all of us, beginning with me. 247 00:17:58,243 --> 00:18:01,080 I'm trying to find out what the facts are. 248 00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:06,627 I intend to keep pushing as long as I'm here. 249 00:18:10,547 --> 00:18:13,133 [Jim Jones speaking] 250 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:23,811 [Bogue] One evening in Jonestown, 251 00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:26,855 Jim Jones had called everybody to the pavilion 252 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:31,902 and he made an announcement that Congressman Ryan was coming down. 253 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:36,698 [Jim Jones speaking] 254 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:09,523 He prophesied... 255 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:13,861 that Ryan would never make it to Jonestown 256 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:17,698 because he saw his plane 257 00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:20,367 falling out of the sky like a bird. 258 00:19:31,461 --> 00:19:33,505 [indistinct chatter] 259 00:19:35,632 --> 00:19:39,178 [Speier] We had been stuck in Georgetown now for three days. 260 00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:42,181 And we negotiated with Jim Jones' attorneys 261 00:19:42,264 --> 00:19:47,019 trying to finally get an invitation to go there. 262 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,984 So when we arrived in Georgetown, 263 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:57,404 for the first three days, there were no planes. 264 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,284 After three days, Congressman Ryan approached the concerned relatives. 265 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:04,411 He told us that the plane was available, 266 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:07,122 that there were a certain amount of seats 267 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:10,250 and that so many were taken for the news crew. 268 00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:12,252 "There's this many seats and you need to decide 269 00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:14,463 among you, you know, who's gonna go." 270 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:15,839 -Could I? -I don't know. 271 00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:17,591 I'm not in charge of anything but I certainly... 272 00:20:17,674 --> 00:20:21,678 [Stoen] Well, people started arguing for these seats... 273 00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:25,891 and I just stepped back and I said, "I'm not gonna fight over a seat." 274 00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:28,727 And Congressman Ryan said, "You know, Grace, let us go in, 275 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:32,147 "we'll open up the doors and then, you know, there can be, 276 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:34,650 you know, another chance, maybe, for people to go in." 277 00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:41,114 I wanted to be able to see my son, 278 00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:43,242 I just wanted to be able to visit him. 279 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:46,078 And hopefully, get him back. 280 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,373 [♪ ominous music playing] 281 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:14,606 [Reiterman] We were going to be flying 282 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:16,775 into Port Kaituma airstrip, 283 00:21:16,858 --> 00:21:20,445 a very tiny town, you know, not very far from Jonestown. 284 00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:33,250 When we approached Port Kaituma, the pilot said they got a report 285 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,752 and it came from Peoples Temple, actually, 286 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:39,798 that the airstrip was unserviceable. 287 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,260 They tried to get us not to land. 288 00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:54,438 The pilot circled, however, and decided it was safe enough to land. 289 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,323 Local officials there said 290 00:22:04,406 --> 00:22:08,368 Peoples Temple had not given us permission to enter. 291 00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:11,788 [Ryan] I'm Congressman Ryan. 292 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:16,084 I'm from the United States government and we're here to inquire into the, uh, 293 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,920 health and the welfare of American citizens who are here. 294 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,840 [indistinct] ...I will have to get instructions. 295 00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:23,884 -[Ryan] From? -From my chief inspector. 296 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:26,345 Before any permission can be granted by me. 297 00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:28,430 But I'm just carrying out duties. 298 00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:29,890 -[Ryan] Good. -That I will continue to do. 299 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:32,684 [Ryan] Sure, I, I, I have no intentions of 300 00:22:32,768 --> 00:22:35,062 hurting or stopping or anything like that and I, 301 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:36,605 I want to do it with a great respect for your government 302 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,690 and for the rules of your country. 303 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,362 Finally, they brought a truck for us. 304 00:22:55,749 --> 00:22:59,836 It took us an hour to go about three miles in this truck. 305 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,007 It was so muddy, it couldn't go very fast. 306 00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:05,092 Very remote. 307 00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:09,096 It's just hard to explain how remote Jonestown was. 308 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:34,287 The whole situation was very weird, 309 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,623 I mean, there we were in the middle of the jungle, 310 00:23:36,706 --> 00:23:38,792 in the middle of nowhere 311 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:40,877 having no idea what to expect. 312 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:45,632 ♪♪ 313 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,728 [children singing indistinctly] 314 00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:04,234 [Speier] We finally got to Jonestown. 315 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:09,531 Some of the members took us on a tour. 316 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:15,745 [indistinct chatter] 317 00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:23,628 That tour was, um... impressive. 318 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:27,007 A childcare center, a medical clinic. 319 00:24:32,012 --> 00:24:34,181 They had carved out a life there. 320 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:37,017 You couldn't not be impressed. 321 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:43,023 But there was no sign of Jim Jones. 322 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:48,153 [♪ upbeat music playing] 323 00:24:48,236 --> 00:24:50,197 [indistinct singing] 324 00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:51,948 Later that evening... 325 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:54,910 well, they put on a show in the pavilion 326 00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,662 and there was dinner 327 00:24:57,746 --> 00:24:59,664 and people were singing and dancing. 328 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:02,876 -[singing continues] -[♪ music continues] 329 00:25:02,959 --> 00:25:07,005 ♪♪ 330 00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:22,270 -[♪ slow romantic music playing] -[singing continues] 331 00:25:33,615 --> 00:25:35,659 At the end of the performance, 332 00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:38,703 they asked Congressman Ryan to come up to the stage, 333 00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:40,163 which he did. 334 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:44,209 I'm very glad to be here, this is a congressional inquiry. 335 00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:46,378 I think that all you know that I'm here to find out 336 00:25:46,461 --> 00:25:48,088 more about, uh, questions 337 00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:49,798 that have been raised about your operation here. 338 00:25:49,881 --> 00:25:53,218 Well, I can tell you right now that from the few conversations I have had 339 00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:55,720 with some of the folks here already this evening that, uh, 340 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:57,973 whatever the comments are, there are some people here 341 00:25:58,056 --> 00:25:59,266 who believe that this is the best thing 342 00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:00,767 that ever happened to them in their whole life. 343 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,852 -[crowd cheering] -[mouths] Yeah. 344 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,402 [cheering continues] 345 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:19,452 [whistling] 346 00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,250 [cheering continues] 347 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:39,848 [[inaudible dialogue]] 348 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:41,975 [cheering continues] 349 00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:47,647 [inaudible dialogue] 350 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:54,237 [cheering continues] 351 00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:56,531 [inaudible dialogue] 352 00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:00,076 [Krause] These people were sitting there 353 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,453 and they were clapping. 354 00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:05,957 It was, you know, the beginning of a feeling that I had, 355 00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:09,252 that, "Well, this place is not quite as, you know... 356 00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:11,755 There's, there-- Something's going on here." 357 00:27:13,923 --> 00:27:17,010 We had the performance, the congressman had finished his speech. 358 00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:28,188 Suddenly there he was, 359 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:30,982 Jim Jones was seated at the end of the table. 360 00:27:35,195 --> 00:27:38,073 [Reiterman] When I first introduced myself to him, 361 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:40,950 he said, "I've read many of your stories. 362 00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:42,827 "You don't have to shoot me, 363 00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:46,289 you know, your words have that kind of effect." 364 00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:49,000 That he didn't like what I had written. 365 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:51,503 [inaudible dialogue] 366 00:27:52,962 --> 00:27:56,841 [Krause] Journalists started asking questions and Jones, 367 00:27:56,925 --> 00:27:58,385 he wasn't making sense. 368 00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:00,970 He would start to answer a question 369 00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:04,140 and then all of a sudden, he would start saying, 370 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:05,433 "They're trying to hurt us 371 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:07,018 and they're doing this and they're doing that" 372 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:09,062 and, you know, and, "Why is all this happening?" 373 00:28:10,563 --> 00:28:15,026 And then he would kinda wind his way back to whatever the question was, sort of, 374 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:18,655 and it really was disturbing, I mean, it... 375 00:28:18,738 --> 00:28:21,908 He, he, he clearly was not someone who was 376 00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,369 coherent, uh, half the time. 377 00:28:27,914 --> 00:28:30,917 [Reiterman] Jim Jones didn't appear to be 378 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,171 the same sort of charismatic leader that he was in the United States. 379 00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:38,508 His eyes, you know, even with his dark glasses 380 00:28:38,591 --> 00:28:41,010 I could see, were sort of like, 381 00:28:41,094 --> 00:28:44,806 they had a gelatinous cast to them like he wasn't well, 382 00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:47,600 you know, he was exhibiting, 383 00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:50,353 you know, really sort of paranoid feelings 384 00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:53,732 about... his many enemies. 385 00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:58,361 He said the ex-members were out to destroy him. 386 00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:05,118 It made me feel as though not only the 900 people who lived there, 387 00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:06,953 but those of us who were visiting 388 00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:10,039 Jonestown and reporting in Jonestown 389 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,542 were also in his hands. 390 00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:30,351 [Speier] The first thing I noticed, he dyed his hair. 391 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:35,398 He was sweating, agitated. 392 00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:40,153 [cheering] 393 00:29:41,654 --> 00:29:44,449 After the performance was over, 394 00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:47,869 Don Harris, the NBC reporter, was 395 00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:50,663 walking around the, the edge of the pavilion 396 00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:54,501 and two members of the Peoples Temple 397 00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:58,046 had independently slipped him notes. 398 00:29:58,505 --> 00:30:03,468 So he came up to us at the end of the evening 399 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:06,429 and hands us these two notes 400 00:30:07,013 --> 00:30:12,852 and my heart sunk because then it was confirmation 401 00:30:13,436 --> 00:30:16,481 that people were being held there against their will. 402 00:30:18,107 --> 00:30:20,109 [inaudible singing] 403 00:30:20,193 --> 00:30:23,071 ♪♪ 404 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:39,254 [Bogue] We all played our role. 405 00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:44,133 We were all happy, you know, clapping our hands, 406 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:47,053 excited that a congressman would come and see us... 407 00:30:49,305 --> 00:30:51,766 as we were instructed to do, and we did very well at it, 408 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,142 and that includes me. 409 00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:56,271 I remember smiling and clapping too 410 00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:59,774 but inside not really caring one bit of what was going on. 411 00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:06,114 Then I saw this one lady pass a note to a reporter 412 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:07,615 up in the cottage area 413 00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,369 and I knew that wasn't a good thing, 414 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:15,540 only because we really weren't supposed to have 415 00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:18,543 any direct contact with them on our own. 416 00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:21,129 So I went and told my dad what I had seen. 417 00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:24,716 And he knew what that meant also, 418 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,510 that actually it meant there were gonna be problems. 419 00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:30,221 So he went and told me to tell my mother and my sisters 420 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:34,642 and everybody that, you know, we need to get together... 421 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:39,898 because we were gonna leave one way or the other. 422 00:31:39,981 --> 00:31:42,984 ♪♪ 423 00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:57,415 [Krause] Jones did not want us to sleep in Jonestown 424 00:31:57,498 --> 00:32:00,543 and so, the journalists, we went back to Port Kaituma 425 00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,587 the little town nearby, 426 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:05,548 in what was a kind of open-air nightclub. 427 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:11,262 Later that night, the sheriff told us that there had been incidents 428 00:32:11,346 --> 00:32:15,475 where people from Jonestown had tried to escape 429 00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:20,813 but had been, sort of, apprehended and taken back. 430 00:32:20,897 --> 00:32:22,398 So the pieces began, 431 00:32:22,482 --> 00:32:24,901 some things began to come together 432 00:32:24,984 --> 00:32:27,362 that were disturbing to say the least. 433 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:31,449 ♪♪ 434 00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:41,751 [♪ eerie music playing] 435 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:57,600 [Reiterman] We were waiting for the truck to arrive 436 00:32:57,684 --> 00:33:00,728 for our second, second day's visit. 437 00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:03,982 Don Harris knew that 438 00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,901 some Peoples Temple members wanted to leave. 439 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,114 We didn't know how many. 440 00:33:12,407 --> 00:33:15,702 We were apprehensive going back into Jonestown. 441 00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:21,082 [Steve Sung] I was a sound man for NBC News. 442 00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:26,379 Don Harris was anxious to get back, he wanted to confront Jim Jones. 443 00:33:26,462 --> 00:33:27,755 He wanted to investigate, 444 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:31,217 is that true that you're holding them without, uh, free will? 445 00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:38,766 We're gonna go ask him about the note. 446 00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:47,150 [Don Harris] That leaves only one thing to be explored, 447 00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:48,484 and that's this question of-- 448 00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:49,944 There's a lot to be explored. 449 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,363 [Harris] Well, for, for us, the thing of fear. 450 00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:53,823 This is a good example. 451 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:57,493 Last night, someone came and passed me this note. 452 00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:03,541 Well, now you see what we're talking about, 453 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:04,709 he wants to leave his son here. 454 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:05,835 If Jonestown's such a bad place, 455 00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:07,378 why does he want to leave his son here? 456 00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:12,341 [Harris] Doesn't it concern you at all that 457 00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:14,260 this man, for whatever reason, 458 00:34:14,343 --> 00:34:15,845 one of the people in your group-- 459 00:34:15,928 --> 00:34:18,514 People play games, friend. 460 00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:21,309 They lie, they lie. What can I do about liars? 461 00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:25,646 Are you people gonna leave us? I just beg you, please leave us. 462 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:27,648 We'll... We will bother nobody, 463 00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:30,193 anybody wants to get out of here can get out of here, 464 00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:31,527 we have no problem about getting out of here. 465 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:33,404 They come and go all the time. 466 00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:37,241 I don't know what kinda game, people like, who... people like publicity, 467 00:34:37,325 --> 00:34:40,828 some people do, I don't, but some people like publicity 468 00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:43,790 but if it's so damn bad, why is he leaving his son here? 469 00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:46,667 Can you give me a good reason for that? 470 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:47,835 [Harris] I'll ask him. 471 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,921 I'd take my son, I'd take my son with me. 472 00:34:52,048 --> 00:34:54,926 [Krause] When he told Jim Jones 473 00:34:55,009 --> 00:34:57,804 that some people wanted to leave, 474 00:34:58,221 --> 00:35:01,933 that was particularly tense 475 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:04,268 and, and confrontational. 476 00:35:06,062 --> 00:35:10,191 Jones was one of these people who would try to counter every argument 477 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:11,818 with something, you know. 478 00:35:11,901 --> 00:35:13,611 "Well, what about this? What about that?" 479 00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:16,239 [inaudible dialogue] 480 00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:19,659 That really, sort of, was, set off the, um, 481 00:35:20,535 --> 00:35:22,245 rest of the-- what happened. 482 00:35:22,328 --> 00:35:24,831 [inaudible dialogue] 483 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,671 [Tim Carter] I'd been in the Temple about six years. 484 00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:35,967 When I was watching Jim Jones' interview with Don Harris, 485 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:40,179 I was not thinking that six hours later everybody would be dead. 486 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,478 But when he handed him the note something changed. 487 00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:49,564 He felt trapped. 488 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:51,816 [inaudible dialogue] 489 00:35:51,899 --> 00:35:53,818 I guess that he felt betrayed. 490 00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:58,281 He took every person leaving as a personal betrayal. 491 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:04,495 I saw Jones getting angrier and angrier and angrier. 492 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:10,001 Literally saw his jaws just clench and his face turn red. 493 00:36:17,383 --> 00:36:22,346 And then a storm came up from literally out of nowhere. 494 00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:26,309 The sky turned black, the wind came up... 495 00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:33,357 and there was just an absolute torrential downpour. 496 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:35,276 You could barely see five feet in front of you, 497 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:36,652 it was raining so hard. 498 00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:43,117 What I felt, um... 499 00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:46,787 I felt evil itself flow into Jonestown, 500 00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:48,915 that's what... it was a cold chill. 501 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:52,460 The... coming down, it's coming down. 502 00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:55,504 Whatever's gonna happen, this is the beginning of it. 503 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:58,591 ♪♪ 504 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:12,980 People absolutely were not free to... leave. 505 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:17,109 [inaudible dialogue] 506 00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:19,862 Dad was a fearful man, he created fear. 507 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:24,116 He was constantly managing his own insecurities 508 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,326 and there were many. 509 00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:28,788 I believe Dad's entire 510 00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:30,665 opinion of himself, 511 00:37:31,832 --> 00:37:35,962 the only esteem he had was in his perception 512 00:37:36,712 --> 00:37:38,756 of other people's perception of him. 513 00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:43,844 And so that meant the attention always had to be on Dad. 514 00:37:45,429 --> 00:37:48,224 For Dad, the temple didn't exist beyond him. 515 00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:51,185 The world didn't exist beyond him. 516 00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:55,982 It's the ultimate addiction, I think, adulation. 517 00:37:56,816 --> 00:37:58,776 [inaudible dialogue] 518 00:37:58,859 --> 00:38:00,861 ♪♪ 519 00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:08,786 ♪♪ 520 00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:11,539 [Speier] People wanted to leave Jonestown. 521 00:38:11,622 --> 00:38:14,333 So there was this desperation. 522 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:18,921 And I was thinking about all that we had to do 523 00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:21,173 to, to leave safely. 524 00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:24,802 I said, "Come with me and I'm going to take an oral affidavit 525 00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:26,595 and we will get you out of here." 526 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,389 They were actually being fairly quiet. 527 00:38:28,472 --> 00:38:29,974 They just wanted to leave. 528 00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:32,727 What is her name? 529 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:33,811 Tracy. 530 00:38:33,894 --> 00:38:35,104 Okay, well, get them. 531 00:38:35,187 --> 00:38:36,230 I've got them! 532 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:39,191 Okay. We're gonna get them all, okay? 533 00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:42,653 I need, I'm gonna need an oral affidavit from you all, okay? 534 00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:44,196 [indistinct chatter] 535 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,656 Right. Now, I'm coming right back. 536 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,408 I'm going to get an oral affidavit from both of you. 537 00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:49,660 Now do I both understand you 538 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,912 to say that you both want to leave Jonestown, 539 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:54,498 On this day, November 18th, 1978? 540 00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:55,833 Yeah. 541 00:38:55,916 --> 00:38:57,626 And my name is Jackie Speier and I'm an attorney 542 00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,338 on the staff of Congressman Leo Ryan, 543 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:01,839 U.S. government. 544 00:39:02,256 --> 00:39:04,258 And what is your wish today? 545 00:39:05,217 --> 00:39:07,178 To go back, to go back home. 546 00:39:07,261 --> 00:39:08,262 And where is home? 547 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:09,347 The U.S. 548 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:11,140 Alright, then. 549 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:19,857 [Speier] They were scared. 550 00:39:20,649 --> 00:39:23,819 They had done something incredibly bold and courageous. 551 00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:33,162 As I went to one of the cabins to retrieve one of the defectors, 552 00:39:33,245 --> 00:39:35,164 you know, there was a man who looked like 553 00:39:35,247 --> 00:39:37,833 he could be a guard standing at the doorway, 554 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:40,544 trying to prevent the member 555 00:39:40,628 --> 00:39:43,547 to get her belongings and to leave. 556 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:46,342 We were able to do that. We went back to the pavilion. 557 00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:51,931 And then word spread, 558 00:39:52,014 --> 00:39:53,682 and then more and more people wanted to leave. 559 00:39:57,144 --> 00:39:59,021 You bring those kids back here! 560 00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:01,857 You... You bring 'em back! 561 00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:04,402 Don't you take my kids! 562 00:40:04,485 --> 00:40:05,861 [indistinct chatter] 563 00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:07,029 Mother! 564 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,782 [Speier] And there was a couple there, 565 00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:13,202 one wanted to leave, the other wanted to stay 566 00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:14,745 and they have the child between them, 567 00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:17,790 and they were pulling on this child's arms. 568 00:40:22,002 --> 00:40:25,423 The atmosphere got incredibly tense. 569 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:33,180 As I was interviewing those that wanted to leave, 570 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:35,307 Jim Jones was hovering nearby... 571 00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:40,146 and he was basically saying to them, 572 00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:43,524 "Come on, you know you've got a good life here, you wanna stay. 573 00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:46,360 "I can't believe for a moment that you're gonna be leaving me, 574 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,195 you're my whole world." 575 00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:50,573 Words that were intimidating to them 576 00:40:50,656 --> 00:40:52,741 and he was trying to be intimidating. 577 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:57,121 But I was focused on providing 578 00:40:57,204 --> 00:40:58,831 what little protection I could at the time 579 00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:01,625 but making it clear that we were gonna take them out of there. 580 00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:09,425 [Reiterman] So the number of people leaving 581 00:41:09,508 --> 00:41:11,510 just grew throughout the day. 582 00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:17,308 And I asked Leo Ryan, "How many are going?" 583 00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:20,519 And he said, "More than a dozen. 584 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:22,104 They're coming out of the woodwork." 585 00:41:23,105 --> 00:41:24,899 It ended up being 15. 586 00:41:30,654 --> 00:41:34,033 [Speier] We recognized that we didn't have enough seats on the plane, 587 00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:36,243 so we then ordered a second plane 588 00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:39,288 and Congressman Ryan then decided 589 00:41:39,371 --> 00:41:42,082 he was gonna stay behind 590 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,210 because there were more people that wanted to leave 591 00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:47,588 than we had seats on the plane, 592 00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:51,675 so he would assist with the second airlift out. 593 00:41:51,759 --> 00:41:56,347 ♪♪ 594 00:42:07,107 --> 00:42:08,651 We're starting to travel 595 00:42:10,402 --> 00:42:13,447 and then all of a sudden there's this noise erupting. 596 00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:17,076 This roar that came up 597 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:18,494 from the pavilion area 598 00:42:18,577 --> 00:42:21,956 and Don Harris jumped off the truck. 599 00:42:27,044 --> 00:42:31,882 [Speier] And out walks Congressman Ryan in a now blood-stained shirt. 600 00:42:36,512 --> 00:42:38,597 Someone had attempted to knife him. 601 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:41,475 [Reiterman] One of the Peoples Temple members 602 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,811 grabbed him and pressed a knife 603 00:42:43,894 --> 00:42:47,064 to his throat and said, "I'm gonna kill you." 604 00:42:47,147 --> 00:42:50,025 [Krause] Someone else had grabbed that person 605 00:42:50,109 --> 00:42:53,404 and the knife, instead of going into the congressman, 606 00:42:53,487 --> 00:42:57,074 ended up stabbing the guy who tried to kill him, 607 00:42:57,157 --> 00:43:00,077 so it was his blood, it was the assassin's blood 608 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,996 that was on his shirt. 609 00:43:04,081 --> 00:43:06,500 [Krause] It was clear we really had to get out of there 610 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,043 as quickly as possible. 611 00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:12,047 It did signal that there was more going on 612 00:43:12,131 --> 00:43:14,967 than, than maybe, maybe I realized. 613 00:43:16,218 --> 00:43:20,431 This was a very, very traumatic moment. 614 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,519 And the fact that somebody had tried to kill the congressman... 615 00:43:28,063 --> 00:43:33,944 was just the prelude to what was really gonna happen. 616 00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:39,783 [♪ dramatic closing theme music playing] 617 00:44:02,264 --> 00:44:04,266 [♪ music continues] 45625

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