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[cheers and applause] 10 00:00:46,504 --> 00:00:49,883 Since I was 16, I've been in the limelight of climbing. 11 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:53,887 No question, the best female climber in our country. 12 00:00:53,887 --> 00:00:55,180 I love the winning. 13 00:00:55,180 --> 00:00:58,600 First place, Sasha DiGiulian. 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,685 People were like, Sasha DiGiulian, 15 00:01:00,685 --> 00:01:03,229 this little kid that's crushing everything. 16 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:07,942 Every time I climb, it's like you fall, you fall, you fall. 17 00:01:07,942 --> 00:01:10,695 Slam into the wall, and it hurts. 18 00:01:10,695 --> 00:01:12,364 Kinda frustrated. 19 00:01:12,364 --> 00:01:14,157 ♪ ♪ 20 00:01:14,157 --> 00:01:16,284 I learned in order to capitalize 21 00:01:16,284 --> 00:01:19,454 on your achievements, you need to capture them. 22 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:21,748 [upbeat music] 23 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:23,208 Social media changed the game. 24 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:25,669 This is Sasha DiGiulian tuning in. 25 00:01:25,669 --> 00:01:27,253 It's like a level of intimacy 26 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:29,381 that never existed in climbing before. 27 00:01:29,381 --> 00:01:31,716 She changed the face of climbing. 28 00:01:31,716 --> 00:01:32,926 [camera shutter clicking] 29 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:34,969 The fact that I'm marketable... 30 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:36,012 Is my hair okay? 31 00:01:36,012 --> 00:01:37,180 Kind of not, but. 32 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:40,558 Enables me to do what I do and make a living off of it. 33 00:01:40,558 --> 00:01:42,477 Once you share yourself with the world, 34 00:01:42,477 --> 00:01:44,062 people are going to have a problem with you. 35 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:45,480 But if you have haters, 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,607 that's how you know you made it. 37 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:50,610 Her definition of success is that she gets to the top. 38 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:54,114 You have such an incredible career. 39 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:55,532 [cheers and applause] 40 00:01:55,532 --> 00:01:56,825 She's so polarizing. 41 00:01:56,825 --> 00:02:00,203 I don't know how much of Sasha is a crafted public persona. 42 00:02:00,203 --> 00:02:01,287 [Sasha groans] 43 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:02,539 She doesn't look like a climber. 44 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:05,000 Some people say, "Why are you sexualizing the sport?" 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,378 People criticize her and call her dumb and anorexic. 46 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:10,296 Sasha's story is amazing. 47 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:11,673 That's why it's so frustrating 48 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,049 when Sasha overhypes some ascents. 49 00:02:13,049 --> 00:02:15,593 If you omit certain details, 50 00:02:15,593 --> 00:02:17,554 people are going to be suspicious. 51 00:02:18,096 --> 00:02:19,597 It's bullshit. 52 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:21,725 I just play the game. 53 00:02:21,725 --> 00:02:23,309 Okay, don't mess this up. 54 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:24,602 You know what to do. 55 00:02:24,602 --> 00:02:25,437 [cheers and applause] 56 00:02:25,437 --> 00:02:28,898 Right, left, pull, foot up, 57 00:02:28,898 --> 00:02:31,401 push, push, push. 58 00:02:31,401 --> 00:02:33,653 Make it up there, make it up there. 59 00:02:41,036 --> 00:02:43,913 [suspenseful ambient music] 60 00:02:43,913 --> 00:02:50,962 ♪ ♪ 61 00:02:51,963 --> 00:02:54,883 [birds singing] 62 00:02:54,883 --> 00:03:01,931 ♪ ♪ 63 00:03:27,582 --> 00:03:28,667 Very good. 64 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:30,001 Whoo. 65 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:31,961 Yes, summit. 66 00:03:31,961 --> 00:03:33,338 Our anchor. 67 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:35,256 - Yeah. - Nice. 68 00:03:35,256 --> 00:03:36,341 [both imitate explosion] 69 00:03:36,341 --> 00:03:37,467 And it's not dark. 70 00:03:37,467 --> 00:03:39,427 It's not dark. Yeah. 71 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:41,179 Only almost. - Almost. 72 00:03:41,179 --> 00:03:42,764 No, we got time. - Yeah. 73 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:45,308 All right, so I'm going to tie you in. 74 00:03:45,308 --> 00:03:48,311 Lynn started out as my idol, 75 00:03:48,311 --> 00:03:50,897 the woman that I grew up with a poster of on my wall 76 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:52,857 in my childhood bedroom. 77 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:57,487 Yes, with one direction. Here's the X, see? 78 00:03:57,487 --> 00:04:00,198 Then she became a friend... 79 00:04:00,198 --> 00:04:01,616 That's how I'm going to tie in. 80 00:04:01,616 --> 00:04:02,492 And a mentor. 81 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:05,704 - Tying to the end here. - Yeah. 82 00:04:05,704 --> 00:04:07,664 As long as we trust that one sling. 83 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:09,791 We can have a backup, though. - Yeah. 84 00:04:09,791 --> 00:04:11,668 Lynn did this epic feat 85 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:14,629 of climbing the Nose on El Cap. 86 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:16,464 And the Nose had never been done 87 00:04:16,464 --> 00:04:18,800 by a man or a woman before. 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,093 She did it over four days. 89 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:21,970 Then the next year, she came back 90 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:23,555 and did it in a single day. 91 00:04:23,555 --> 00:04:27,851 And then she made this famous quip... 92 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:30,228 Good setup. 93 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:31,312 ♪ ♪ 94 00:04:31,312 --> 00:04:33,440 And I saw that as just-- 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,109 I want to do something like that one day. 96 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:38,486 - Hasta la vista. - Whoo-hoo. 97 00:04:38,486 --> 00:04:41,072 It's going to be an exciting rappel. 98 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:43,408 Lynn comes from this 99 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:45,410 traditional climbing background, 100 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:47,746 grew up really in the outdoor environment. 101 00:04:47,746 --> 00:04:52,500 And I grew up climbing in a gym. 102 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,171 I started climbing when I was six years old. 103 00:04:56,171 --> 00:04:58,256 My brother had a birthday party 104 00:04:58,256 --> 00:04:59,966 at a climbing gym called Sportrock 105 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:02,260 in Alexandria, Virginia. 106 00:05:02,260 --> 00:05:04,846 What I remember was walking in, 107 00:05:04,846 --> 00:05:09,017 the gym smelling, like, musty, dirty feet 108 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:12,312 and a slight tinge of pizza. 109 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:14,022 I really liked it. 110 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:17,609 I kept going back in line to have another turn. 111 00:05:17,609 --> 00:05:21,237 Sasha quickly progressed from being 112 00:05:21,237 --> 00:05:25,950 a child who liked to climb to being a competitor. 113 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:27,827 What's your strategy today? 114 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:29,621 Two things: to win 115 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:33,625 and to climb as many races I can so I get 1,000 bucks. 116 00:05:33,625 --> 00:05:36,294 She loved the gym competitions. 117 00:05:36,294 --> 00:05:38,588 She excelled in them. 118 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:40,590 It became obvious that 119 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:44,010 she wanted to be serious about that. 120 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,471 [indistinct PA announcement] 121 00:05:46,471 --> 00:05:49,641 [cheers and applause] 122 00:05:51,685 --> 00:05:54,771 - I loved winning. - Yeah! 123 00:05:54,771 --> 00:05:57,273 Winning my first continental championships, 124 00:05:57,273 --> 00:05:58,608 winning my first nationals, 125 00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:02,153 it was, like, the greatest feeling. 126 00:06:02,153 --> 00:06:05,323 I met Sasha when she was, I think, 127 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:08,827 like 14 or 15 years old. 128 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:10,328 We both lived in D.C. 129 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:12,247 and were climbing in the same climbing gym. 130 00:06:12,247 --> 00:06:14,499 And she was the little squirt 131 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:16,376 that was warming up on my projects. 132 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:18,128 [chuckles] 133 00:06:18,128 --> 00:06:19,838 Yeah, she definitely stood out. 134 00:06:21,673 --> 00:06:24,009 When Sasha was building her career, 135 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:27,679 she was a young, attractive, blonde, blue-eyed girl 136 00:06:27,679 --> 00:06:32,017 doing some really cool things. 137 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:34,477 She loves climbing, 138 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:37,856 but she uses it to make a living. 139 00:06:37,856 --> 00:06:39,441 It's impressive. 140 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:41,484 - I want to see that logo. - Oh, yeah. 141 00:06:41,484 --> 00:06:43,695 It's just bunched on this side. 142 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:45,947 So maybe just pull your jacket down and fold it. 143 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:47,657 Just curl it up or something. - Oh, okay. 144 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:49,451 Since I had achieved at that point 145 00:06:49,451 --> 00:06:52,328 what I wanted to achieve in indoor climbing 146 00:06:52,328 --> 00:06:54,497 and I started using my winter breaks 147 00:06:54,497 --> 00:06:57,208 and summer breaks to be outside on rock. 148 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:59,002 [suspenseful music] 149 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:06,384 I never kind of ventured into this new world unknown before. 150 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:09,763 [energetic ambient music] 151 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,890 ♪ ♪ 152 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:14,809 The following summer, I did my first big wall 153 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:19,147 with Edu Marin, who is a professional Spanish climber. 154 00:07:19,147 --> 00:07:20,648 Bella Vista was classified 155 00:07:20,648 --> 00:07:23,068 as the hardest big wall achieved by a woman. 156 00:07:23,068 --> 00:07:26,446 It was my first female ascent of a big wall, 157 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:29,240 proving to myself that anything was possible. 158 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,370 ♪ ♪ 159 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:34,913 It's a serious endeavor to climb a big wall, 160 00:07:34,913 --> 00:07:38,625 and it requires a lot of technical knowledge 161 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:43,963 and mental fortitude and then, of course, the strength. 162 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:47,967 Sport climbing is a very individualistic pursuit. 163 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:51,096 Big wall climbing is about teamwork 164 00:07:51,096 --> 00:07:52,597 and about partnership. 165 00:07:52,597 --> 00:07:55,058 So it was a big transition for Sasha 166 00:07:55,058 --> 00:07:58,353 because you can't do it all by yourself anymore. 167 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:00,271 And the list of things that could go wrong... 168 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:03,817 [chuckling] Is pretty much infinite. 169 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:06,820 [wind whistling] 170 00:08:09,614 --> 00:08:12,450 My next climb was the Eiger. 171 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:13,993 The route that I wanted to do was 172 00:08:13,993 --> 00:08:15,787 one of the hardest established routes 173 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:17,831 on the north face of the Eiger, 174 00:08:17,831 --> 00:08:20,542 and it had never been done by a woman before. 175 00:08:20,542 --> 00:08:22,419 [tense music] 176 00:08:22,419 --> 00:08:24,671 That was exciting to me. 177 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:27,757 I wanted to do something that was record-breaking. 178 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:29,759 ♪ ♪ 179 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,636 And I told my sponsors about it 180 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:33,680 and they were instantly really excited 181 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,726 and put in the resources to filming and making it happen. 182 00:08:37,726 --> 00:08:39,519 ♪ ♪ 183 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,604 I saw the climb that I wanted to do 184 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:42,981 on the north face of the Eiger 185 00:08:42,981 --> 00:08:45,942 as something that was under the grade level 186 00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:47,527 that I climbed. 187 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:51,281 I thought, like, "What's the big deal?" 188 00:08:51,281 --> 00:08:53,158 There's a lot to big wall climbing 189 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:54,743 that you don't know until you're out there. 190 00:08:54,743 --> 00:09:00,290 And all of it I was learning while literally there. 191 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,500 ♪ ♪ 192 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:05,003 My climbing partner was Carlo Traversi, 193 00:09:05,003 --> 00:09:07,172 and we were going through these pockets 194 00:09:07,172 --> 00:09:10,425 of really bad weather, running out of time, 195 00:09:10,425 --> 00:09:15,680 so we changed routes to something easier. 196 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,142 And it was still a first female ascent. 197 00:09:19,142 --> 00:09:23,438 I was like, adjust course, secure a summit. 198 00:09:23,438 --> 00:09:26,358 [suspenseful orchestral music] 199 00:09:26,358 --> 00:09:32,655 ♪ ♪ 200 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:34,616 So all of a sudden, I come back home 201 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:36,409 and there's so much hype. 202 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,286 Sasha DiGiulian has just become 203 00:09:38,286 --> 00:09:41,164 the first woman to free-climb the north face of the Eiger. 204 00:09:41,164 --> 00:09:43,750 The first woman ever to scale the Murder Wall. 205 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,710 Just days before starting her senior year 206 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:48,546 at Columbia University, DiGiulian reached the summit. 207 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:50,715 My proudest achievement in my career yet. 208 00:09:50,715 --> 00:09:53,218 It's the hardest route on the 5,000-foot north face, 209 00:09:53,218 --> 00:09:55,679 and DiGiulian has made the first female ascent. 210 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,055 My main focus in climbing-- 211 00:09:57,055 --> 00:10:00,058 When you're trying to make a living off your sport 212 00:10:00,058 --> 00:10:03,311 and getting media attention, you're not going to say no. 213 00:10:03,311 --> 00:10:05,146 I've proven to myself that 214 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:08,358 something that I didn't know was possible was possible. 215 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:10,318 Yes. 216 00:10:10,318 --> 00:10:11,403 Whoo! 217 00:10:11,403 --> 00:10:13,154 It makes your career grow. 218 00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:16,074 But the climbing community was basically like, 219 00:10:16,074 --> 00:10:17,492 "What the fuck?" 220 00:10:17,867 --> 00:10:20,245 [suspenseful music] 221 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:22,414 I feel like every big thing she's done, 222 00:10:22,414 --> 00:10:24,833 there's always the weird asterisk, 223 00:10:24,833 --> 00:10:26,626 always weird rumors, and maybe that's people hating. 224 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:27,961 Maybe that's people being sexist. 225 00:10:30,714 --> 00:10:33,633 The toughest thing for me about the criticism 226 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,135 that I got from the Eiger was that 227 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:37,679 it was actually more grounded in fact. 228 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,848 It wasn't that big of a feat. 229 00:10:39,848 --> 00:10:42,392 Carlo Traversi, my climbing partner, 230 00:10:42,392 --> 00:10:44,811 was never mentioned in the press. 231 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:47,480 I was like this outsider coming into this world 232 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,983 that was highly protected 233 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:52,444 and all of a sudden, getting a lot of attention 234 00:10:52,444 --> 00:10:55,447 for something that felt overhyped. 235 00:10:55,447 --> 00:10:56,823 So all of this critique 236 00:10:56,823 --> 00:11:00,035 made me want to just keep making a bigger splash. 237 00:11:00,035 --> 00:11:03,288 I just saw the negative as like, watch me. 238 00:11:03,288 --> 00:11:04,789 I'll keep going. 239 00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:07,917 [dramatic percussive music] 240 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:12,380 ♪ ♪ 241 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:14,007 [camera shutter clicking] 242 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:15,550 [birds singing] 243 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:17,635 Hello. 244 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:19,304 How do you feel? 245 00:11:19,304 --> 00:11:20,388 Not bad. 246 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:22,182 [wondrous ambient music] 247 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:23,683 I'm really competitive. 248 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,435 Little bit sandy. 249 00:11:25,435 --> 00:11:28,188 And I also love feeling in control. 250 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,690 ♪ ♪ 251 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:33,818 What I love about climbing is in many ways, 252 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,113 I've always been in control of my own success. 253 00:11:37,113 --> 00:11:42,035 Like, what I get out of it is up to me. 254 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,996 I was racking up first ascents and first female ascents 255 00:11:44,996 --> 00:11:47,499 with male professional climbers. 256 00:11:47,499 --> 00:11:48,708 And that's how I've kind of grown 257 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,169 and expanded in my skill set. 258 00:11:51,169 --> 00:11:53,463 [panting] 259 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:56,341 We would push each other really hard, 260 00:11:56,341 --> 00:11:57,967 pushing my comfort zone. 261 00:11:57,967 --> 00:11:59,594 ♪ ♪ 262 00:11:59,594 --> 00:12:03,765 The spring of 2018, I set out on this crazy objective 263 00:12:03,765 --> 00:12:07,977 of climbing three of Canada's hardest big walls. 264 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:11,314 But I broke up with my climbing partner. 265 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:13,650 Ah. 266 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,652 And I ended up doing it on my own 267 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:17,946 with the support of Blairs. 268 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:24,244 ♪ ♪ 269 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:25,370 Whoo! 270 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,455 After that, I was like, "Whoa, I feel limitless." 271 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:29,582 We did it! 272 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:30,667 Yeah! 273 00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:32,627 I'd put to bed these whispers 274 00:12:32,627 --> 00:12:35,338 of me needing a male climbing partner 275 00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:36,256 to help get up these walls. 276 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:37,382 Oh, my God. 277 00:12:37,382 --> 00:12:39,259 Way to go, team! 278 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:40,885 - Whoo-hoo! - Whoo! 279 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:42,303 It was very empowering in the sense 280 00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:46,433 that I knew I had the skills and the capacity 281 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:50,395 to lead an all-female team on an expedition. 282 00:12:50,395 --> 00:12:53,440 [birds singing] 283 00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:56,901 I guess, yeah. 284 00:12:56,901 --> 00:12:58,528 It was really cool to see 285 00:12:58,528 --> 00:13:00,238 Sash coming off of the trilogy, 286 00:13:00,238 --> 00:13:03,033 and she really wanted her next big expedition 287 00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:04,951 to be an all-female team. 288 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:06,703 Tricams that Lynn gave me. 289 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:08,246 Sash wants to prove 290 00:13:08,246 --> 00:13:10,123 that she's one of the most successful 291 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:13,001 female climbers in the world and one of the most successful 292 00:13:13,001 --> 00:13:14,502 big wall female climbers in the world, 293 00:13:14,502 --> 00:13:18,089 which is an even more rarefied group of individuals. 294 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:22,010 Okay. 295 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:24,929 This is the climb that we're trying. 296 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:27,140 It's Leve Leve by the Pou brothers. 297 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,184 [soft upbeat percussive music] 298 00:13:29,184 --> 00:13:33,772 This is all super-vegetated terrain. 299 00:13:33,772 --> 00:13:36,149 And the rock, it's hard to tell 300 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:39,694 how it is since it's so overgrown. 301 00:13:39,694 --> 00:13:45,950 ♪ ♪ 302 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:49,162 I decided to self-fund the expedition. 303 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:53,500 ♪ ♪ 304 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,086 [indistinct chatter] 305 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:57,212 ♪ ♪ 306 00:13:57,212 --> 00:13:59,589 The goal is to be the first woman 307 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:01,549 to climb a route up Pico Cao Grande, 308 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:05,136 which was the largest volcanic plug in the world. 309 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:07,055 ♪ ♪ 310 00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:10,100 I just wanted to go there with a climbing partner 311 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,352 that I felt comfortable with and trusted. 312 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,521 Oh, man. 313 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:16,022 Holy epic-ness. 314 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:18,483 And you're literally entrusting your lives 315 00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:20,151 into each other's hands, 316 00:14:20,151 --> 00:14:23,655 and you're all working together towards this goal. 317 00:14:25,782 --> 00:14:29,285 Oh, my God. Like, it's like--it's there. 318 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:30,578 It's so crazy. - It's there. We're here. 319 00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:32,580 Like, we're looking at this thing at a picture 320 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:33,957 in my house, and, like-- 321 00:14:33,957 --> 00:14:36,001 When I got the call from Sasha to go to Africa, 322 00:14:36,001 --> 00:14:37,711 I was over the moon. 323 00:14:37,711 --> 00:14:40,338 When I first saw Pico Cao Grande, 324 00:14:40,338 --> 00:14:42,674 I was floored. It was beautiful. 325 00:14:42,674 --> 00:14:45,635 [ethereal ambient music] 326 00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,054 ♪ ♪ 327 00:14:48,054 --> 00:14:50,974 I met Angela on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan 328 00:14:50,974 --> 00:14:52,934 on an ice climbing trip. 329 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:55,186 I was pretty green to ice climbing, 330 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:58,148 and Angela really mentored me. 331 00:14:58,148 --> 00:14:59,524 The rock. 332 00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:01,359 Oh, I'm so pumped. 333 00:15:01,359 --> 00:15:02,777 God. 334 00:15:02,777 --> 00:15:04,863 ♪ ♪ 335 00:15:04,863 --> 00:15:06,948 And then--oh, dude! 336 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:08,742 There's the bolt. First bolt. - Where? 337 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,910 After that crack system. 338 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,370 - Is that the face? - Yeah. 339 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:13,705 That way. 340 00:15:13,705 --> 00:15:16,958 [indistinct chatter] 341 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:28,011 My thoughts were that Angela and I would swap leads, 342 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:31,514 and essentially I would lead the harder-graded climbs, 343 00:15:31,514 --> 00:15:35,435 and she would lead more of the adventure terrain. 344 00:15:35,435 --> 00:15:36,936 Oh, the rock. 345 00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:40,315 Jungle. 346 00:15:40,315 --> 00:15:47,364 ♪ ♪ 347 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:52,327 I'm spider-webby. - It's really gravelly. 348 00:15:52,327 --> 00:15:55,747 I fought a lot of spiders coming up. 349 00:15:55,747 --> 00:15:56,915 You're a little dirty. 350 00:15:56,915 --> 00:15:58,458 Sharp rock. 351 00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:00,418 And it's pouring rain, and I'm getting a little-- 352 00:16:00,418 --> 00:16:01,795 - Yeah, we're getting misted. - Breeze. 353 00:16:01,795 --> 00:16:02,754 Niagara Falls over here. 354 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:07,676 ♪ ♪ 355 00:16:07,676 --> 00:16:10,595 From the moment we touched down on the ground, 356 00:16:10,595 --> 00:16:12,972 it was just rain. 357 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:16,351 [suspenseful music] 358 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:23,441 ♪ ♪ 359 00:16:25,527 --> 00:16:26,903 [grunts] 360 00:16:26,903 --> 00:16:29,864 ♪ ♪ 361 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:30,782 When it rains, 362 00:16:30,782 --> 00:16:35,328 the likelihood of rockfall goes way up. 363 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:39,290 ♪ ♪ 364 00:16:39,290 --> 00:16:41,084 That's a whole different level of risk 365 00:16:41,084 --> 00:16:42,711 that I never accounted for. 366 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:44,045 ♪ ♪ 367 00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:47,298 Not normal protocol to climb in the rain. 368 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:48,550 Oh. 369 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:52,470 My fucking feet won't even stay on the holds. 370 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,807 Like, this is like such mossy bullshit. 371 00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:04,899 I'm not sure how wet this climb is going to be. 372 00:17:04,899 --> 00:17:09,988 It feels like it's one of the only options. 373 00:17:09,988 --> 00:17:10,989 Right now. 374 00:17:10,989 --> 00:17:14,200 [rain pattering] 375 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:35,513 You got that. 376 00:17:35,513 --> 00:17:38,141 Oh, everything's so wet. Holy smokes. 377 00:17:38,141 --> 00:17:42,270 Sasha is one of the most driven people I've ever met. 378 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:43,688 ♪ ♪ 379 00:17:43,688 --> 00:17:48,151 It helps her achieve the goals that she sets for herself. 380 00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:50,362 And I do believe that she finds self-worth 381 00:17:50,362 --> 00:17:56,576 and self-value in those goals that she creates. 382 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,870 Oh, no! Fucker! 383 00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:00,955 On the grasp! 384 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:03,541 No fucking way! 385 00:18:03,541 --> 00:18:04,876 Ah! 386 00:18:04,876 --> 00:18:07,796 [stirring orchestral music] 387 00:18:07,796 --> 00:18:14,844 ♪ ♪ 388 00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:40,620 [softly] Yes. 389 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:47,669 ♪ ♪ 390 00:18:55,552 --> 00:18:56,761 Yes. 391 00:18:56,761 --> 00:18:57,929 Whoo! 392 00:18:57,929 --> 00:19:02,058 Ow, ow, ow, ow! 393 00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:04,185 Sighs] First pitch. 394 00:19:04,185 --> 00:19:07,772 But, man, that was a fight through the mud. 395 00:19:07,772 --> 00:19:14,863 ♪ ♪ 396 00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:27,834 I just don't know if we're going to get a weather window. 397 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,003 Well, then I'm probably not going to go to the top 398 00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:31,755 if we don't get a weather window. 399 00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:34,424 Yeah, I mean, it is shitty to be, like, 400 00:19:34,424 --> 00:19:36,801 the only one trying to, like, push our, 401 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,261 like, momentum forward. 402 00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:39,804 Like I said, I'm super willing 403 00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:41,056 to go up there with you. 404 00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,891 I just, like, want you to be doing it 405 00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:44,768 for the right reasons, girl. 406 00:19:44,768 --> 00:19:46,853 Like, I want you to-- 407 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:50,482 I'm, like, perfectly aware of my--my, like, risk-taking. 408 00:19:50,482 --> 00:19:52,817 I just, like, if I feel like something's sketchy, 409 00:19:52,817 --> 00:19:54,027 I come down. 410 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:55,111 And my only point is that 411 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,821 we don't know until we check it out. 412 00:19:56,821 --> 00:19:58,823 [rain pattering] 413 00:19:58,823 --> 00:20:01,826 [thunder rumbling softly] 414 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:04,829 [insects droning] 415 00:20:36,945 --> 00:20:39,864 [tense ambient music] 416 00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:44,744 ♪ ♪ 417 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:48,581 Rock! 418 00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,041 You guys okay? 419 00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:51,876 [words echoing] 420 00:20:51,876 --> 00:20:53,628 ♪ ♪ 421 00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:56,006 Angela! 422 00:20:56,006 --> 00:20:57,298 [Sasha panting] 423 00:20:57,298 --> 00:20:59,259 I'm okay. 424 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:03,179 A TV-sized block coming off is, like, 425 00:21:03,179 --> 00:21:05,015 not cool. 426 00:21:05,015 --> 00:21:08,351 There was rockfall that almost killed our photographer. 427 00:21:08,351 --> 00:21:11,479 And that was a very high point of tension 428 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,858 because Sasha didn't think anything had gone wrong 429 00:21:14,858 --> 00:21:17,402 because nobody was hurt. 430 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,697 My life partner of many years 431 00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:22,949 went on an expedition to Pakistan. 432 00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,743 And he never came home. 433 00:21:24,743 --> 00:21:27,412 That dramatically changed the way 434 00:21:27,412 --> 00:21:30,206 that I see the world of climbing. 435 00:21:30,206 --> 00:21:34,044 I was bold, and that's how I got my name. 436 00:21:34,044 --> 00:21:36,629 And now I'm very far from bold. 437 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:39,174 [somber music] 438 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:42,427 I just don't really want anyone to die. 439 00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,512 So no one dies on this route, 440 00:21:44,512 --> 00:21:45,847 it's going to be a sweet summit. 441 00:21:45,847 --> 00:21:48,892 Somebody dies, I'm going to be super-bummed. 442 00:21:48,892 --> 00:21:51,728 That's kind of where I'm at. 443 00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:54,272 If you feel like you going up there 444 00:21:54,272 --> 00:21:55,607 is like you dying, 445 00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:57,776 then of course, I can't push you. 446 00:21:57,776 --> 00:22:00,111 I just have confidence that we can reach the top 447 00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:02,906 and that we can mitigate the risk. 448 00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:05,950 I mean, I don't know what you want me to say. 449 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,994 [insects droning] 450 00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:11,915 At the end of that evening, Sasha went into her tent 451 00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:16,127 and uploaded the GoPro footage to Instagram. 452 00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:18,713 [tense music] 453 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:20,590 Rock! 454 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:22,884 ♪ ♪ 455 00:22:22,884 --> 00:22:25,136 You guys okay? 456 00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:27,806 ♪ ♪ 457 00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:29,808 Angela! 458 00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:02,382 Last night, my ego was getting in the way 459 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:04,634 of making a clear decision. 460 00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:07,387 I woke up this morning feeling like this is against my ethic 461 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:10,223 and not the example I want to set. 462 00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:15,687 What hurts right now is I feel like 463 00:23:15,687 --> 00:23:17,731 all of the preparation I did, 464 00:23:17,731 --> 00:23:22,235 and as much as I wanted something, 465 00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:24,612 it's just not possible. 466 00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:26,740 And this is the first-- 467 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:29,409 this is the first mission of mine, 468 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,286 the first big wall that I've gone on 469 00:23:31,286 --> 00:23:34,873 on a trip that I haven't succeeded on. 470 00:23:34,873 --> 00:23:36,708 [engine chugging] 471 00:24:01,316 --> 00:24:04,486 [metallic tapping] 472 00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:16,206 [mechanical whirring] 473 00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,442 I was at fault for the failed expedition 474 00:24:44,442 --> 00:24:46,319 because I was supposed to be 475 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,947 keeping everyone in good spirit. 476 00:24:48,947 --> 00:24:51,783 I wasn't empathetic to their feelings. 477 00:24:51,783 --> 00:24:55,787 I wasn't the expedition leader that they needed me to be. 478 00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:57,997 All right! 479 00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:00,041 We put six bolts in today. 480 00:25:00,041 --> 00:25:03,294 All right, let's try. Let's go down one more. 481 00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,297 It was the first trip that someone was telling me no, 482 00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:08,550 and, like, I didn't like that. 483 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,136 All right, I'll come down. 484 00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:15,432 Growing up, I wanted to do everything by myself. 485 00:25:15,432 --> 00:25:18,810 [dramatic energetic music] 486 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:23,148 I wasn't naturally that much of a team player. 487 00:25:23,148 --> 00:25:26,985 ♪ ♪ 488 00:25:26,985 --> 00:25:30,572 For instance, my mom learned how to belay 489 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:32,991 so that I could maximize my time climbing 490 00:25:32,991 --> 00:25:35,076 and do laps. 491 00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:37,996 I was just game to help out in any way I could. 492 00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:42,876 And that turned into belaying Sasha 493 00:25:42,876 --> 00:25:48,048 so that she didn't take time belaying another climber. 494 00:25:48,048 --> 00:25:49,674 She didn't really climb with anyone else. 495 00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,134 It was just her mom. 496 00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:53,219 And so all she did was climb. 497 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,679 Usually when you're climbing, you have your partner 498 00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:57,724 and you take your breaks, you know, and you rest. 499 00:25:57,724 --> 00:26:00,518 But for Sasha, it was just like up and down, 500 00:26:00,518 --> 00:26:01,978 up and down, up and down. 501 00:26:01,978 --> 00:26:03,438 Go, Sasha! 502 00:26:03,438 --> 00:26:06,649 Elite athletes have to have drive. 503 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:08,943 You have to be selfish. 504 00:26:08,943 --> 00:26:13,531 Like, you have to be thinking about how to elevate yourself. 505 00:26:13,531 --> 00:26:14,949 ♪ ♪ 506 00:26:14,949 --> 00:26:18,870 My mom, she loved being a part of it. 507 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:23,541 But my dad, he was busy working. 508 00:26:23,541 --> 00:26:25,543 Didn't come to my climbing competitions. 509 00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:28,046 He didn't really understand climbing. 510 00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:31,508 He was scared that I would go off 511 00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:34,552 and become a dirtbag and not go to college. 512 00:26:34,552 --> 00:26:35,970 I wanted to prove to him 513 00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:37,889 that climbing was a legitimate sport 514 00:26:37,889 --> 00:26:41,726 like tennis and hockey and that I could make a living 515 00:26:41,726 --> 00:26:45,563 off of this sport that I loved. 516 00:26:45,563 --> 00:26:50,235 What my dad did connect with was me winning. 517 00:26:50,235 --> 00:26:52,070 ♪ ♪ 518 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:54,781 I could say, "Here's my gold medal." 519 00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:59,452 And he would beam with a sense of pride. 520 00:26:59,452 --> 00:27:02,122 Our little tradition was 521 00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:05,583 my dad would bring me to the airport. 522 00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:06,876 We'd talk about things 523 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,629 that have nothing to do with climbing. 524 00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:13,383 [soft upbeat music] 525 00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:15,844 And whenever he dropped me off, 526 00:27:15,844 --> 00:27:20,724 he'd say, "Have fun, be safe, and do your best." 527 00:27:20,724 --> 00:27:22,642 [audience exclaim] 528 00:27:22,642 --> 00:27:25,854 [applause] 529 00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:30,191 ♪ ♪ 530 00:27:30,191 --> 00:27:32,610 [wind whooshing] 531 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:36,114 It's such a beautiful formation. 532 00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:38,158 For Sasha and I to do a new route here 533 00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:41,369 would be a great achievement for us, 534 00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:44,789 but also a gift to the climbers. 535 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:50,795 Once we've got it all bolted, the fun part starts. 536 00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:53,298 That's why I wanted Sasha to be a part of this, 537 00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:56,968 because we can do something for the community of Boulder 538 00:27:56,968 --> 00:28:00,388 and all the climbers that are looking for new routes 539 00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:03,433 about that level of difficulty. 540 00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:07,520 Sasha is a young woman who's still figuring it out. 541 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,980 My feet are actually still warm. 542 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,900 We share similar goals when it comes to climbing. 543 00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:13,568 - We're in climbing shoes. - Yeah. 544 00:28:13,568 --> 00:28:15,653 Once you decide to do something, 545 00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,822 there's no backing down. 546 00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:19,240 That's just part of our character, 547 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,036 and it's part of what makes us good climbers. 548 00:28:23,036 --> 00:28:26,664 But we come from a completely different culture. 549 00:28:26,664 --> 00:28:27,832 The world is a lot different today 550 00:28:27,832 --> 00:28:30,502 than it was when I was her age. 551 00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:33,838 [dreamy upbeat rock music] 552 00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:36,341 Back in the days when I was climbing the big walls 553 00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:39,678 of Yosemite as, like, an 18-, 19-year-old, 554 00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:41,638 I met this group of climbers 555 00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:45,308 that are now known as the Stonemasters. 556 00:28:45,308 --> 00:28:48,019 They were pushing the level of free climbing in America 557 00:28:48,019 --> 00:28:50,105 and finding the routes that were harder 558 00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:51,856 than what had already been done. 559 00:28:51,856 --> 00:28:54,275 It was a very inclusive group, 560 00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,194 people from different walks of life. 561 00:28:56,194 --> 00:28:59,864 And where we were bonded was in our love for climbing. 562 00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:01,866 My first female climbing partner, 563 00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:05,537 Mari Gingery, she and I were pretty much the only women 564 00:29:05,537 --> 00:29:07,205 in this group of men. 565 00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:09,708 ♪ ♪ 566 00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:12,210 It took a while for people to understand 567 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,004 that climbing is actually a sport 568 00:29:14,004 --> 00:29:16,256 and that women can do it. 569 00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:18,591 We do what we think we're capable of. 570 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:21,386 So we're telling ourselves stories, 571 00:29:21,386 --> 00:29:24,639 and the story you tell yourself is the most important one. 572 00:29:24,639 --> 00:29:28,309 ♪ ♪ 573 00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:30,854 I was just enjoying being out there 574 00:29:30,854 --> 00:29:33,565 and hanging out with these people that like to have fun 575 00:29:33,565 --> 00:29:35,275 and just do crazy things. 576 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:38,319 It was a really beautiful time in my life 577 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,990 where I felt free and on the edge of something 578 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:46,369 that nobody else really cared, but we cared. 579 00:29:46,369 --> 00:29:47,495 [rowdy rock music] 580 00:29:47,495 --> 00:29:49,539 Then I was part of the first generation of climbers 581 00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:52,250 that got to experience competition. 582 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:53,251 [audience cheering] 583 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:56,421 And that was very controversial at first. 584 00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:59,090 Some climbers on one side that would say 585 00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:01,092 climbing is not a competitive sport 586 00:30:01,092 --> 00:30:04,971 and how would we judge who's the best climber anyway? 587 00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:08,808 The only way I was really making money was prize money. 588 00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:12,103 When I asked the organizers if the men and women 589 00:30:12,103 --> 00:30:14,564 were getting paid the same for prize money, 590 00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:16,858 they just said, "Well, women will get paid the same 591 00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:20,236 if they climb without their tops on." 592 00:30:20,236 --> 00:30:22,864 When I retired from competitions, 593 00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:26,076 I decided to do one last big climb, 594 00:30:26,076 --> 00:30:28,495 the first free ascent of the most famous route 595 00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:32,248 in the middle of El Capitan called the Nose. 596 00:30:32,248 --> 00:30:33,958 People said it couldn't be done. 597 00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:35,919 And when people say it can't be done, 598 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:37,796 that's when I get most motivated. 599 00:30:37,796 --> 00:30:39,631 Oh, really? It can't be done? 600 00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:40,965 Who would ever say that? 601 00:30:40,965 --> 00:30:42,842 Why would you ever say something can't be done? 602 00:30:42,842 --> 00:30:44,803 It's just a matter of finding the way to do it. 603 00:30:44,803 --> 00:30:47,263 Lynn Hill is a legend amongst climbers. 604 00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:49,933 This morning, a woman adventure writer Jon Krakauer 605 00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:52,268 called, quote, "Not just one of the best 606 00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:56,731 female climbers, but one of the all-time greats." 607 00:30:56,731 --> 00:30:58,191 The first part says, 608 00:30:58,191 --> 00:31:00,360 "Someday, some guy is going to free the Nose." 609 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,361 Yeah 610 00:31:01,361 --> 00:31:03,363 And at the bottom, it says, "It goes, boys." 611 00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:04,739 [laughs] - That's amazing. 612 00:31:04,739 --> 00:31:06,157 Yeah. 613 00:31:06,157 --> 00:31:08,034 You know that's the poster of you that I grew up with? 614 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:10,286 It was signed by you. 615 00:31:10,286 --> 00:31:12,414 Yeah. - Now, this is really funny. 616 00:31:12,414 --> 00:31:14,958 This photo was taken when I was probably 19. 617 00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:16,835 So they came out to Joshua Tree and they're like, 618 00:31:16,835 --> 00:31:18,670 "Who wants to get some free schwag 619 00:31:18,670 --> 00:31:20,505 and take a few photos with us?" 620 00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:21,798 And so I said, "Sure." 621 00:31:21,798 --> 00:31:23,842 So they gave me those stand up shorts. 622 00:31:23,842 --> 00:31:25,301 I did get sponsored later, 623 00:31:25,301 --> 00:31:28,888 but I wasn't making enough money to survive 624 00:31:28,888 --> 00:31:30,223 and be a mother. 625 00:31:30,223 --> 00:31:31,891 I always had to do a side hustle. 626 00:31:31,891 --> 00:31:34,185 And it just got really tiring 627 00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:36,855 to have to always be answering to a sponsor, 628 00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:39,441 have a side hustle, and be a mom. 629 00:31:39,441 --> 00:31:41,693 There's a young Sasha. 630 00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:42,861 "Kids of Climbing." - Yeah. 631 00:31:42,861 --> 00:31:43,862 - How old were you then? - 2007. 632 00:31:43,862 --> 00:31:44,863 Because of people like Lynn 633 00:31:44,863 --> 00:31:47,032 who really pioneered the sport, 634 00:31:47,032 --> 00:31:48,908 my generation gets to actually 635 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,994 make a living doing what you love. 636 00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,371 Oh, my goodness, Little Sasha. 637 00:31:53,371 --> 00:31:57,542 I want women to have equal access to equity 638 00:31:57,542 --> 00:31:59,461 and equality in sport. 639 00:31:59,461 --> 00:32:01,046 It's not about the money. 640 00:32:01,046 --> 00:32:03,381 Money enables you freedom, 641 00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:07,844 and freedom enables you to do what you want to do. 642 00:32:07,844 --> 00:32:09,346 [upbeat music] 643 00:32:09,346 --> 00:32:12,932 I took a very business-forward approach to my career. 644 00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:16,186 And even from a young age, I had brand principles 645 00:32:16,186 --> 00:32:18,855 and a mission statement of who I was. 646 00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:20,273 I remember writing out 647 00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:22,942 the mission statement of Sasha DiGiulian. 648 00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:24,235 I always looked at professional climbing 649 00:32:24,235 --> 00:32:26,946 as basically similar to dumpster diving. 650 00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:29,074 Get in there and see what you can find. 651 00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:31,576 Sasha was just really good at diving in the dumpster. 652 00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:33,203 I don't--[laughs] 653 00:32:33,203 --> 00:32:35,455 I said yes to everything. 654 00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:40,085 Tires, makeup brands, fitness trackers. 655 00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:42,170 Did a deal with Seamless, which was awesome 656 00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:43,588 because I was in college 657 00:32:43,588 --> 00:32:46,508 and it was like free delivery for a year. 658 00:32:46,508 --> 00:32:49,427 She's a businesswoman. She's a self-marketer. 659 00:32:49,427 --> 00:32:54,182 She's the OG millennial influencer pro climber. 660 00:32:54,182 --> 00:32:56,267 One of the first people to really 661 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:59,062 be Insta-famous in our climbing community 662 00:32:59,062 --> 00:33:01,147 and have a huge following 663 00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:03,358 and be able to leverage and use that 664 00:33:03,358 --> 00:33:05,443 in ways that were to her benefit 665 00:33:05,443 --> 00:33:08,905 but also became extremely isolating. 666 00:33:08,905 --> 00:33:10,782 ♪ ♪ 667 00:33:10,782 --> 00:33:12,492 Agent Provocateur approached me 668 00:33:12,492 --> 00:33:15,286 about being a part of this new campaign, 669 00:33:15,286 --> 00:33:18,289 embracing strength as not mutually 670 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:20,542 exclusive from femininity. 671 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:22,293 It was a fun experience 672 00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:25,005 and one of the most ridiculous things that I've done. 673 00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:27,799 But I'm, like, pretty happy that I did it. 674 00:33:38,309 --> 00:33:41,187 Sometimes she's critiqued by, you know, 675 00:33:41,187 --> 00:33:42,981 the trolls on the internet. 676 00:33:42,981 --> 00:33:44,941 The culture that I came from, 677 00:33:44,941 --> 00:33:47,152 people didn't boast about themselves. 678 00:33:47,152 --> 00:33:48,236 There was no social media. 679 00:33:48,236 --> 00:33:51,656 They were very discreet, and if anything, 680 00:33:51,656 --> 00:33:54,325 understated and humble. 681 00:33:54,325 --> 00:33:57,537 And if you see somebody who's the opposite of that, you know, 682 00:33:57,537 --> 00:34:00,623 the tendency is to tear that person down. 683 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:09,341 I love to climb hard, and I also love to wear pink. 684 00:34:09,341 --> 00:34:11,176 I love to be outside, but I also love 685 00:34:11,176 --> 00:34:14,846 to stay in a five-star hotel. 686 00:34:14,846 --> 00:34:19,726 Being true to myself and not having to dampen my shine 687 00:34:19,726 --> 00:34:25,440 is maybe why I cause friction, 688 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360 but I'm human, so I'm always going to be 689 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,366 affected by negative comments. 690 00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:37,702 I have spent a lot of time anguishing over what 691 00:34:37,702 --> 00:34:40,747 other people think about me. 692 00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:45,251 I went through a really public cyberbullying incident 693 00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:49,798 that came from a long saga of someone 694 00:34:49,798 --> 00:34:54,427 in our community mocking, essentially, me being obese. 695 00:34:54,427 --> 00:34:56,971 And I crafted a post about it. 696 00:34:56,971 --> 00:35:02,185 What resulted in that was fury towards me and towards him. 697 00:35:02,185 --> 00:35:06,398 I have been dealing with someone who has treated me 698 00:35:06,398 --> 00:35:10,318 poorly through harassment, online and offline, 699 00:35:10,318 --> 00:35:13,363 over the last eight years. 700 00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:18,410 And I exposed something that was posted online. 701 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:21,287 And my opinion about social media 702 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:25,041 is that what is posted online is posted 703 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:26,584 to a public forum. 704 00:35:26,584 --> 00:35:30,213 Whether from a public account or a private account, 705 00:35:30,213 --> 00:35:34,092 we all have to face the accountability of our actions. 706 00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:38,430 She fought back, 707 00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:41,683 fucking nuked him on social media. 708 00:35:41,683 --> 00:35:44,894 That person lost their entire livelihood. 709 00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:47,397 People had a hard time with that fact, 710 00:35:47,397 --> 00:35:48,940 because it was a well-loved person 711 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:52,444 in the climbing community. 712 00:35:52,444 --> 00:35:55,697 Something that Sasha will always be associated with 713 00:35:55,697 --> 00:35:57,532 and never escape, but at the same time, 714 00:35:57,532 --> 00:36:02,120 she was right to stand up for herself. 715 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,708 I'm glad I stood up for myself. 716 00:36:06,708 --> 00:36:10,628 But I felt like an outsider within my own community. 717 00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:13,381 [exhales] 718 00:36:13,381 --> 00:36:15,467 The way that I deal with things is trying 719 00:36:15,467 --> 00:36:19,679 to compartmentalize what is going on under the surface. 720 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:23,767 Because my job is to be a professional climber. 721 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,144 And if I'm not climbing something of significance 722 00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:29,647 each year, like, I feel inadequate 723 00:36:29,647 --> 00:36:32,650 and not deserving of the support that I have. 724 00:36:32,650 --> 00:36:34,235 [exhales] 725 00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:36,696 Seeing pressure as a reason 726 00:36:36,696 --> 00:36:41,368 to hit the gas harder is-- 727 00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:43,661 has always been my mentality. 728 00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:46,164 [indistinct chatter] 729 00:36:46,164 --> 00:36:49,209 She has unbelievable goals that are going to push her 730 00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:51,461 mentally and physically and push female climbing 731 00:36:51,461 --> 00:36:53,380 and push climbing in general. 732 00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:56,508 She also is very aware of the fact that she's getting older, 733 00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:58,385 and she's aware of what transpires 734 00:36:58,385 --> 00:37:02,639 and how brand relationships transition as you get older 735 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,516 and maybe you become slightly less relevant. 736 00:37:04,516 --> 00:37:07,519 She is very much grasping with like, well, 737 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,522 what does it mean if some day I'm not as relevant? 738 00:37:10,522 --> 00:37:13,274 And I think she's thinking of all that emotionally, 739 00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:15,235 and I think she's also thinking about it financially. 740 00:37:15,235 --> 00:37:17,987 I'm in the prime of my career, 741 00:37:17,987 --> 00:37:21,449 and I want to take advantage of that as much as possible. 742 00:37:21,449 --> 00:37:26,538 And that's going after these first female ascents. 743 00:37:26,538 --> 00:37:28,665 When I see a woman has done a climb, 744 00:37:28,665 --> 00:37:31,668 it all of a sudden connects the dots that it's like, 745 00:37:31,668 --> 00:37:34,379 oh, wow, if she did it, I can do it. 746 00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:35,922 And so in a way, it kind of opens 747 00:37:35,922 --> 00:37:37,799 this floodgate of possibility. 748 00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:40,760 [light music] 749 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,141 ♪ ♪ 750 00:37:46,141 --> 00:37:49,144 Sao Tome didn't work out, and I came home 751 00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:52,230 hungry to go and lead another big wall, 752 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:54,566 all-female expedition. 753 00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:58,903 And that came in the form of Logical Progression, 754 00:37:58,903 --> 00:38:02,866 the most badass sport big wall in the world, 755 00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:06,411 a 3,000-foot face climb up a monolith 756 00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:10,040 called El Gigante in Mexico. 757 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,708 The route hadn't been free-climbed 758 00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:13,251 by a woman before. 759 00:38:13,251 --> 00:38:15,295 And all the men that had done it 760 00:38:15,295 --> 00:38:17,130 were these big names that I respected, 761 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:19,424 like Josh Wharton, Alex Honnold, 762 00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:23,219 Sonnie Trotter, Hayden Kennedy. 763 00:38:23,219 --> 00:38:27,640 I was dead set on going there and trying it. 764 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,392 ♪ ♪ 765 00:38:29,392 --> 00:38:30,894 The Logical Progression will suit you really well, 766 00:38:30,894 --> 00:38:32,479 because it's, like, techy vert fingery. 767 00:38:32,479 --> 00:38:35,565 And it's like technical and sort of meander back and forth. 768 00:38:35,565 --> 00:38:37,442 But overall, I remember the whole route basically 769 00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:39,152 being small edges up the face. 770 00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:40,195 - Okay, so like-- - You know, like--like, 771 00:38:40,195 --> 00:38:41,279 miles of just creeping up a vertical wall. 772 00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:42,614 - Climb vertical-- - Yeah. 773 00:38:42,614 --> 00:38:44,032 And then I remember that the first pitches 774 00:38:44,032 --> 00:38:47,786 is are more thought-provoking than the rating would imply. 775 00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:49,287 You know, you're like, "Oh, 11-A, that'll be fast." 776 00:38:49,287 --> 00:38:50,246 And then you get up there, you're like, 777 00:38:50,246 --> 00:38:51,706 "Where are the holds?" It's all confusing. 778 00:38:51,706 --> 00:38:53,333 Yeah. 779 00:38:57,712 --> 00:38:58,922 If someone's a professional climber, 780 00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:02,384 you can kind of tell by the way they move on a rock. 781 00:39:02,384 --> 00:39:03,802 That's how I judge a professional climber 782 00:39:03,802 --> 00:39:07,806 is if they can just show up at the crag and climb well. 783 00:39:07,806 --> 00:39:09,683 Boy. 784 00:39:09,683 --> 00:39:10,725 Sasha definitely has that. 785 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:12,310 You watch her climb, and you can tell 786 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:14,354 that she's really good at it. 787 00:39:14,354 --> 00:39:18,983 [breathing heavily] 788 00:39:18,983 --> 00:39:21,653 I think I'm dying, because my right hip is really throbbing. 789 00:39:21,653 --> 00:39:24,489 Like, last night, like, I had to take three Advil at night. 790 00:39:24,489 --> 00:39:26,032 I kind of, like, went cold. 791 00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:29,202 I was like, "I can't go to Mexico with this. 792 00:39:29,202 --> 00:39:32,539 I need to get a cortisone shot." 793 00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:35,166 Finally went in, and it turned out I needed 794 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,293 a total hip reconstruction. 795 00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:39,504 because my femur head was essentially 796 00:39:39,504 --> 00:39:41,673 popping out of the socket. 797 00:39:41,673 --> 00:39:44,759 It would be a series of five surgeries over the course 798 00:39:44,759 --> 00:39:45,802 of about a year. 799 00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:47,679 And the surgeon didn't know if I 800 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,639 would be able to return to the level 801 00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,308 of climbing that I was at. 802 00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:55,311 [somber music] 803 00:39:55,311 --> 00:39:59,733 But since I already had done all of the damage to my hips, 804 00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:02,986 two weeks wasn't going to make it necessarily much worse. 805 00:40:02,986 --> 00:40:05,488 So I could go to Mexico, complete the climb, 806 00:40:05,488 --> 00:40:09,701 and then return for surgery. 807 00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:11,870 I was in a state of total disarray 808 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:14,539 and trying to process the news that I had just gotten 809 00:40:14,539 --> 00:40:18,418 about the potential career-ending set of surgeries 810 00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:20,170 that I'd have to go through. 811 00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:21,338 So that's--yeah. 812 00:40:21,338 --> 00:40:24,174 And then I got the call about Nolan. 813 00:40:24,174 --> 00:40:25,383 ♪ ♪ 814 00:40:25,383 --> 00:40:27,594 Nolan was a really beloved member 815 00:40:27,594 --> 00:40:31,056 of the community in climbing and in base jumping. 816 00:40:31,056 --> 00:40:37,228 He had gone ahead to hang static lines for my team. 817 00:40:37,228 --> 00:40:40,398 ♪ ♪ 818 00:40:40,398 --> 00:40:42,359 He was climbing the route, 819 00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:46,071 and a major ledge that he was on broke. 820 00:40:46,071 --> 00:40:48,698 He fell from over 1,000 feet. 821 00:40:48,698 --> 00:40:51,576 [helicopter blades whirring] 822 00:40:51,576 --> 00:40:54,579 We had left Mexico the next morning. 823 00:40:54,579 --> 00:40:59,334 Nolan's whole family flew down. 824 00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:01,211 After we recovered Nolan's body, 825 00:41:01,211 --> 00:41:04,923 we shut the expedition down, and we all flew home. 826 00:41:04,923 --> 00:41:09,844 I felt extremely lost and confused and broken. 827 00:41:09,844 --> 00:41:13,723 ♪ ♪ 828 00:41:17,936 --> 00:41:23,900 [birds chirping] 829 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,653 I had hardly gotten home from Mexico, 830 00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:31,533 and I went in for my first hip surgery. 831 00:41:33,326 --> 00:41:38,748 [machine beeping] 832 00:41:45,213 --> 00:41:49,551 [machine beeping] 833 00:41:57,183 --> 00:42:02,939 [saw whirring] 834 00:42:05,942 --> 00:42:07,318 [hammer clacking] 835 00:42:07,318 --> 00:42:10,321 [light music] 836 00:42:10,321 --> 00:42:12,866 ♪ ♪ 837 00:42:12,866 --> 00:42:16,453 Sasha's tagline was, you're not the boss of me. 838 00:42:16,453 --> 00:42:17,787 ♪ ♪ 839 00:42:17,787 --> 00:42:20,081 She said it all the time. 840 00:42:20,081 --> 00:42:23,001 My husband would say something that she didn't want to do. 841 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,837 She'd say, well, "I'm going to get a new family." 842 00:42:25,837 --> 00:42:28,131 Such a very tiny little girl. 843 00:42:28,131 --> 00:42:29,466 Sasha? 844 00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:30,884 Oh, she's waking up. 845 00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:32,344 Sasha? 846 00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:36,056 Hey, good morning. 847 00:42:36,056 --> 00:42:37,515 Can you wiggle your toes? 848 00:42:37,515 --> 00:42:39,768 Oh, there we go. Lift them up. 849 00:42:39,768 --> 00:42:41,519 ♪ ♪ 850 00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,021 Push down with the arms all the way. 851 00:42:43,021 --> 00:42:44,606 No weight on that leg. 852 00:42:44,606 --> 00:42:48,443 Sasha doesn't like to not do something well. 853 00:42:48,443 --> 00:42:51,571 And she doesn't like to be imperfect. 854 00:42:51,571 --> 00:42:54,324 So she'll just do it and do it and do it. 855 00:42:54,324 --> 00:42:57,702 Surgery number two, here we go. 856 00:42:57,702 --> 00:43:00,372 Here I had this little kid going off on weekends 857 00:43:00,372 --> 00:43:02,123 climbing up these mountains. 858 00:43:02,123 --> 00:43:05,418 She gave up her senior prom to go on a climbing trip. 859 00:43:05,418 --> 00:43:06,795 Like, there was no choice. 860 00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:09,964 Like, "I'm not going to prom." 861 00:43:09,964 --> 00:43:11,424 - Yay. - Yay. 862 00:43:11,424 --> 00:43:14,219 [exhales] 863 00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:16,054 Watch this, Mom. 864 00:43:16,054 --> 00:43:17,847 Press into this. 865 00:43:17,847 --> 00:43:20,225 I allowed her to do what she wanted. 866 00:43:20,225 --> 00:43:21,893 I allowed her to go to Europe 867 00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:25,438 with her boyfriend when she was just 16. 868 00:43:25,438 --> 00:43:27,399 She came back with another boyfriend too. 869 00:43:27,399 --> 00:43:29,192 It was, like, a Norwegian. 870 00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:33,321 I trusted myself, and I trusted her. 871 00:43:33,321 --> 00:43:37,659 And I really didn't care about what anybody else said. 872 00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:40,203 Here we go again. 873 00:43:40,203 --> 00:43:42,455 Love you. 874 00:43:42,455 --> 00:43:43,998 ♪ ♪ 875 00:43:43,998 --> 00:43:45,709 When she told me she was planning 876 00:43:45,709 --> 00:43:47,585 on doing Logical Progression, 877 00:43:47,585 --> 00:43:50,797 I wasn't so sure I really wanted her to, 878 00:43:50,797 --> 00:43:54,050 but Sasha just sets her goals. 879 00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:57,095 And who am I to say you can't do it 880 00:43:57,095 --> 00:44:00,682 when that's what she wants to do? 881 00:44:00,682 --> 00:44:02,434 Good. [laughs] 882 00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:04,102 I could lay on a whole lot of guilt, 883 00:44:04,102 --> 00:44:09,899 but I'm going to save that for when I really need it. 884 00:44:09,899 --> 00:44:16,948 ♪ ♪ 885 00:44:26,708 --> 00:44:29,294 I was really in an emotional state 886 00:44:29,294 --> 00:44:32,213 after the surgeries and not really knowing, like, 887 00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:35,008 what life would look like. 888 00:44:35,008 --> 00:44:38,053 I started thinking about what I could control, 889 00:44:38,053 --> 00:44:43,183 so I started thinking more about what impact my nutrition 890 00:44:43,183 --> 00:44:45,894 could have on my body accelerating 891 00:44:45,894 --> 00:44:50,690 through the recovery process. 892 00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:53,818 The deep, dark undercurrent of climbing 893 00:44:53,818 --> 00:44:55,236 that's the elephant in the room 894 00:44:55,236 --> 00:44:59,157 to a lot of climbers and myself included, 895 00:44:59,157 --> 00:45:03,703 is the conversation about weight. 896 00:45:03,703 --> 00:45:08,500 For group A with Sasha DiGiulian, 897 00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:10,293 [indistinct]. 898 00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:14,422 2010, I was, like, at the top of my podiums, 899 00:45:14,422 --> 00:45:20,303 and I was 94 pounds. 900 00:45:20,303 --> 00:45:23,306 Being skinny on the wall meant less weight to pull up 901 00:45:23,306 --> 00:45:29,062 the wall, but it also meant a future of just health issues 902 00:45:29,062 --> 00:45:33,942 that were unavoidable if I kept on that track, 903 00:45:33,942 --> 00:45:36,861 what I'm going to eat, how much food I'm going to eat, 904 00:45:36,861 --> 00:45:39,614 thinking that I needed to keep losing weight. 905 00:45:39,614 --> 00:45:41,991 [speaking in native language] 906 00:45:41,991 --> 00:45:44,077 The people who are winning the world cups 907 00:45:44,077 --> 00:45:47,789 were way thinner than I was. 908 00:45:47,789 --> 00:45:48,748 [cheers and applause] 909 00:45:48,748 --> 00:45:50,792 I think there was maybe, like, a period 910 00:45:50,792 --> 00:45:52,794 where I hadn't seen her in, like, a year or two, 911 00:45:52,794 --> 00:45:54,546 and I bumped into her. 912 00:45:54,546 --> 00:46:00,343 And I almost didn't recognize her. 913 00:46:00,343 --> 00:46:05,265 And, you know, my heart just kind of dropped, 914 00:46:05,265 --> 00:46:09,561 because she just looked 915 00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:13,064 so skinny and not healthy. 916 00:46:13,064 --> 00:46:18,278 As I progressed in my 20s, I wanted to build my strength 917 00:46:18,278 --> 00:46:19,946 instead of lose weight. 918 00:46:19,946 --> 00:46:22,407 My experience with malnutrition 919 00:46:22,407 --> 00:46:23,783 led me to really want to learn 920 00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:26,911 a lot more about nutrition. 921 00:46:26,911 --> 00:46:30,874 And it's only really been over the last few years 922 00:46:30,874 --> 00:46:32,083 that I've felt, like, 923 00:46:32,083 --> 00:46:34,753 really confident in my own skin. 924 00:46:34,753 --> 00:46:38,548 ♪ ♪ 925 00:46:38,548 --> 00:46:40,967 I love waking up, moving my body, 926 00:46:40,967 --> 00:46:43,094 taking part in everyday life. 927 00:46:43,094 --> 00:46:46,931 And when you're injured, you don't get to do that. 928 00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:51,644 And so it makes you feel super vulnerable. 929 00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:54,356 I can't really explain very well 930 00:46:54,356 --> 00:46:59,277 why I'm so inspired to climb Logical Progression. 931 00:46:59,277 --> 00:47:01,696 It's just a climb that represents a lot. 932 00:47:01,696 --> 00:47:03,448 It represents this entire journey 933 00:47:03,448 --> 00:47:04,949 of what I've gone through. 934 00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:08,578 And it represented this driving force for me 935 00:47:08,578 --> 00:47:11,414 before my injury. 936 00:47:11,414 --> 00:47:14,000 And it represented something that I wanted to do, 937 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,711 that I was committed to, that I was training for. 938 00:47:16,711 --> 00:47:23,009 And it's almost like the climb itself is what separates me 939 00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:26,596 before all of this and me now. 940 00:47:26,596 --> 00:47:29,057 Just by being on Logical Progression, 941 00:47:29,057 --> 00:47:31,768 I get to confront my fears head on. 942 00:47:31,768 --> 00:47:34,771 ♪ ♪ 943 00:47:34,771 --> 00:47:39,442 It's totally insane for her to be 944 00:47:39,442 --> 00:47:41,194 pursuing a goal like this 945 00:47:41,194 --> 00:47:44,614 on the heels of five surgeries. 946 00:47:44,614 --> 00:47:45,907 It's beyond dark comedy. 947 00:47:45,907 --> 00:47:48,076 It's kind of like, "What are we doing here? 948 00:47:48,076 --> 00:47:49,536 "Like, your hips aren't ready. 949 00:47:49,536 --> 00:47:50,995 "You don't have a partner. 950 00:47:50,995 --> 00:47:53,790 Like, give it a couple months." 951 00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:55,417 - [chuckles] - Okay. 952 00:47:55,417 --> 00:47:58,837 To have one surgery where they break her hip 953 00:47:58,837 --> 00:48:02,674 and reconstruct it, putting in four big screws, 954 00:48:02,674 --> 00:48:03,717 recovered from that, 955 00:48:03,717 --> 00:48:05,802 second hip, same thing, 956 00:48:05,802 --> 00:48:09,097 those are pretty major operations. 957 00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:13,184 She's an elite athlete, and I think she probably, 958 00:48:13,184 --> 00:48:17,897 like me, recovers faster than most people. 959 00:48:17,897 --> 00:48:21,693 Hopefully, I'll be ready to go to Mexico in April. 960 00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:23,361 You'll see how it goes. 961 00:48:23,361 --> 00:48:26,197 I think it's not bad to go and look at it 962 00:48:26,197 --> 00:48:29,367 and suss it out and check it out and, 963 00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:31,953 you know, do a survey and, like, 964 00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:33,413 maybe climb some pitches. 965 00:48:33,413 --> 00:48:36,875 But I don't expect you to complete it. 966 00:48:36,875 --> 00:48:41,254 [breathing heavily] 967 00:48:41,254 --> 00:48:48,303 ♪ ♪ 968 00:48:55,352 --> 00:48:57,145 You know, I went to Boulder, and I spent time with her, 969 00:48:57,145 --> 00:49:00,065 like, watching her recovery, and, like, 970 00:49:00,065 --> 00:49:03,068 she was a long ways away 971 00:49:03,068 --> 00:49:05,111 from getting to the point where 972 00:49:05,111 --> 00:49:07,238 she could do Logical Progression. 973 00:49:07,238 --> 00:49:08,239 ♪ ♪ 974 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,742 For the last year, she's been sitting still 975 00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:12,243 and waiting and trying to heal. 976 00:49:12,243 --> 00:49:15,205 Like, I know she needs this. 977 00:49:15,205 --> 00:49:17,957 She needs a challenge that's not just a small challenge. 978 00:49:17,957 --> 00:49:19,417 She needs something that, like, 979 00:49:19,417 --> 00:49:24,005 is just on the ragged edge of insanity. 980 00:49:24,005 --> 00:49:25,382 It's binary for her. 981 00:49:25,382 --> 00:49:26,383 Like, this is it. 982 00:49:26,383 --> 00:49:28,551 Like, she's either going to do this and pull it off 983 00:49:28,551 --> 00:49:31,596 and she's back, or she's not going to do it, 984 00:49:31,596 --> 00:49:34,683 and these hip surgeries were the end of her 985 00:49:34,683 --> 00:49:35,809 professional climbing. 986 00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:38,603 Like, it almost feels like she's that fixated on it. 987 00:49:38,603 --> 00:49:40,188 ♪ ♪ 988 00:49:40,188 --> 00:49:43,274 Getting on challenging climbs 989 00:49:43,274 --> 00:49:45,694 is good for me, because then I just get 990 00:49:45,694 --> 00:49:48,279 that fitness and power back. 991 00:49:48,279 --> 00:49:51,241 It's, like, a humbling experience, I think. 992 00:49:51,241 --> 00:49:54,327 I mean, I'm just so happy to be back on rock, 993 00:49:54,327 --> 00:50:00,458 but I don't feel my most in shape or anything like that. 994 00:50:00,458 --> 00:50:04,129 And remembering that I did go through five surgeries 995 00:50:04,129 --> 00:50:06,506 and a lot of time off climbing, 996 00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:09,259 like, it's important for me to remember that. 997 00:50:09,259 --> 00:50:10,301 ♪ ♪ 998 00:50:10,301 --> 00:50:13,096 Returning to Logical Progression for me 999 00:50:13,096 --> 00:50:16,850 is how I could get back and through 1000 00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:20,645 this really trying time in my own life. 1001 00:50:20,645 --> 00:50:23,732 ♪ ♪ 1002 00:50:23,732 --> 00:50:27,652 Me, I would have delayed Mexico a couple of months. 1003 00:50:27,652 --> 00:50:28,987 I've never made her decisions. 1004 00:50:28,987 --> 00:50:30,905 She knows when she's ready. 1005 00:50:30,905 --> 00:50:33,324 If she says she's ready, she's ready. 1006 00:50:35,577 --> 00:50:39,622 Sasha called me to ask me to be a part of this expedition 1007 00:50:39,622 --> 00:50:42,417 to Logical Progression. 1008 00:50:42,417 --> 00:50:45,003 The problem was, I wasn't really thinking 1009 00:50:45,003 --> 00:50:47,088 about climbing at that level. 1010 00:50:47,088 --> 00:50:49,174 It could have been a great adventure 1011 00:50:49,174 --> 00:50:51,384 but just wasn't the time for me. 1012 00:50:51,384 --> 00:50:52,427 Nice. 1013 00:50:52,427 --> 00:50:54,429 I knew Sasha was disappointed, 1014 00:50:54,429 --> 00:50:59,476 but I had to follow my instincts. 1015 00:50:59,476 --> 00:51:05,357 I feel like we've got everything in place. 1016 00:51:05,357 --> 00:51:10,737 And yeah, if you have a last-minute change of heart-- 1017 00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:11,821 Okay, I'm going. 1018 00:51:11,821 --> 00:51:13,573 Yeah, you're like, "Guys, wait." 1019 00:51:13,573 --> 00:51:16,701 [laughter] 1020 00:51:16,701 --> 00:51:19,662 [light music] 1021 00:51:19,662 --> 00:51:24,209 ♪ ♪ 1022 00:51:24,209 --> 00:51:26,086 [indistinct chatter] 1023 00:51:26,086 --> 00:51:28,922 Dude, less than two weeks out. 1024 00:51:28,922 --> 00:51:32,384 We can find another spot, right? 1025 00:51:32,384 --> 00:51:34,969 So, Vian, you want to go first? 1026 00:51:34,969 --> 00:51:36,262 No, you can go first if you want. 1027 00:51:36,262 --> 00:51:37,263 You're tying in. You go. 1028 00:51:37,263 --> 00:51:38,390 I know, but you want to go? 1029 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:40,308 Vian's a badass climber. 1030 00:51:40,308 --> 00:51:44,145 And I've known her for over ten years. 1031 00:51:44,145 --> 00:51:48,066 And we met when she stole my Swedish Fish at the crag. 1032 00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:50,985 You just have to tell everybody that, 1033 00:51:50,985 --> 00:51:54,030 like I'm a Swedish Fish thief or something. 1034 00:51:54,030 --> 00:51:55,073 It was one time. 1035 00:51:55,073 --> 00:51:56,574 I never did it again. 1036 00:51:56,574 --> 00:51:58,618 [laughs] 1037 00:52:00,912 --> 00:52:04,582 11, including-- 1038 00:52:06,334 --> 00:52:10,588 Vian said she could maybe make Mexico work. 1039 00:52:10,588 --> 00:52:15,427 You're actually, like, the first person that when I said, 1040 00:52:15,427 --> 00:52:17,345 like, anything about Mexico that's actually 1041 00:52:17,345 --> 00:52:20,598 expressed enthusiasm around going. 1042 00:52:20,598 --> 00:52:21,599 But I'm down. 1043 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:24,269 [laughs] 1044 00:52:24,269 --> 00:52:26,104 We'll be safe. Okay, I got to get going. 1045 00:52:26,104 --> 00:52:28,023 - Okay. - You clipping this? 1046 00:52:28,023 --> 00:52:29,357 You want a stick clip? 1047 00:52:29,357 --> 00:52:30,442 But I have one too. 1048 00:52:30,442 --> 00:52:32,193 We're talking about, like, weeks away 1049 00:52:32,193 --> 00:52:33,611 from this expedition. 1050 00:52:33,611 --> 00:52:37,115 And I come back from work, and she's like, 1051 00:52:37,115 --> 00:52:38,116 "Vian wants to go." 1052 00:52:38,116 --> 00:52:39,951 And I'm like, "Who is Vian?" 1053 00:52:39,951 --> 00:52:42,287 I've never even heard of Vian. 1054 00:52:42,287 --> 00:52:44,456 I mean, as I understand it, like, 1055 00:52:44,456 --> 00:52:47,417 Vian hasn't done a big wall before. 1056 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,386 The first time I met anybody, like, "famous," 1057 00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:00,138 it was actually Sasha. 1058 00:53:00,138 --> 00:53:02,766 And I just, like, went up and introduced myself. 1059 00:53:02,766 --> 00:53:03,975 I was like, "Hi, I'm Vian." 1060 00:53:03,975 --> 00:53:05,769 And, like, we hit it off really well, 1061 00:53:05,769 --> 00:53:08,313 and we were both climbing in the Pipe Dream a lot, 1062 00:53:08,313 --> 00:53:12,484 and we were just, like, good friends after that. 1063 00:53:12,484 --> 00:53:15,862 But yeah, I don't know what really inspires me. 1064 00:53:15,862 --> 00:53:19,407 I can't say for sure, like, why I climb, like, 1065 00:53:19,407 --> 00:53:22,118 there's some grand thing behind it. 1066 00:53:22,118 --> 00:53:24,704 I'm just kind of compelled. 1067 00:53:24,704 --> 00:53:26,456 ♪ ♪ 1068 00:53:26,456 --> 00:53:30,251 I never had the ambition to be a professional climber, 1069 00:53:30,251 --> 00:53:34,547 and I would never want to be famous. 1070 00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:38,051 I would not be able to put on a happy face 1071 00:53:38,051 --> 00:53:42,514 if I had to go to a crag and there were ten people there 1072 00:53:42,514 --> 00:53:44,808 who knew who I was and expected me to climb 1073 00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:48,728 really hard and take photos with them. 1074 00:53:48,728 --> 00:53:53,858 I think Sasha's handled fame with a lot of grace and class. 1075 00:53:53,858 --> 00:53:57,696 She's a really public figure, and so a lot of shade 1076 00:53:57,696 --> 00:53:59,906 gets thrown her way. 1077 00:53:59,906 --> 00:54:05,704 I told Sasha, heavy is the head that wears the crown. 1078 00:54:05,704 --> 00:54:08,707 [gentle music] 1079 00:54:08,707 --> 00:54:15,714 ♪ ♪ 1080 00:54:19,718 --> 00:54:24,514 I was stubborn, independent. 1081 00:54:24,514 --> 00:54:27,017 I guess it's just the way that I am. 1082 00:54:27,017 --> 00:54:29,811 ♪ ♪ 1083 00:54:29,811 --> 00:54:33,565 I think I got a lot of my ability to not see no 1084 00:54:33,565 --> 00:54:37,193 as an option from my dad. 1085 00:54:37,193 --> 00:54:39,738 ♪ ♪ 1086 00:54:39,738 --> 00:54:42,407 Was always, "See the light at the end of the tunnel, 1087 00:54:42,407 --> 00:54:45,410 and that's the option that you're going to arrive at." 1088 00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:47,078 There's going to be roadblocks along the way, 1089 00:54:47,078 --> 00:54:50,582 but it's always going to be leading towards this goal. 1090 00:54:50,582 --> 00:54:54,544 And then it's, by any means possible, achieve it. 1091 00:54:54,544 --> 00:54:56,421 ♪ ♪ 1092 00:54:56,421 --> 00:54:59,758 When I was 22, my dad took me to the airport 1093 00:54:59,758 --> 00:55:03,553 to fly to Wyoming, our little tradition. 1094 00:55:03,553 --> 00:55:05,597 ♪ ♪ 1095 00:55:05,597 --> 00:55:07,432 I was climbing in Wyoming, 1096 00:55:07,432 --> 00:55:09,351 and my mom called me to tell me 1097 00:55:09,351 --> 00:55:12,020 that my dad had had a stroke. 1098 00:55:12,020 --> 00:55:13,104 ♪ ♪ 1099 00:55:13,104 --> 00:55:16,900 I flew back immediately, was there in the hospital. 1100 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:18,151 ♪ ♪ 1101 00:55:18,151 --> 00:55:20,403 And we were asking all these questions about what his state 1102 00:55:20,403 --> 00:55:23,907 would be when he woke up, and the surgeon was like, 1103 00:55:23,907 --> 00:55:27,410 "You're not asking the right questions." 1104 00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:30,163 He never woke up. 1105 00:55:30,163 --> 00:55:34,084 ♪ ♪ 1106 00:55:34,084 --> 00:55:40,548 I mean, I felt the most gutted that I have felt in my life. 1107 00:55:40,548 --> 00:55:43,134 My response was just to suppress all my feelings 1108 00:55:43,134 --> 00:55:47,764 and just keep going, because that's what I knew how to do. 1109 00:55:53,812 --> 00:55:57,857 The first time I met Sasha, she had just lost her father, 1110 00:55:57,857 --> 00:56:02,487 and she gave a presentation that was so, like, together. 1111 00:56:02,487 --> 00:56:04,698 Like, she didn't cry or anything. 1112 00:56:04,698 --> 00:56:07,575 And it just made me think, "Wow, she's really good 1113 00:56:07,575 --> 00:56:10,578 "at compartmentalizing her emotions 1114 00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:12,997 and setting that off to the side," 1115 00:56:12,997 --> 00:56:16,376 which you do have to do on a scary route sometimes. 1116 00:56:16,376 --> 00:56:18,420 You have to just say, "Okay, I'm really scared, 1117 00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:22,257 but I can't focus on that." 1118 00:56:22,257 --> 00:56:25,343 [birds chirping] 1119 00:56:25,343 --> 00:56:26,469 - What's up, dude? - What's up? 1120 00:56:26,469 --> 00:56:28,346 Dude, we're going to Mexico today. 1121 00:56:28,346 --> 00:56:29,389 Yeah. 1122 00:56:29,389 --> 00:56:30,932 Okay, I'm going to-- 1123 00:56:30,932 --> 00:56:31,808 I'll be in-- 1124 00:56:31,808 --> 00:56:33,518 I'll go get the bars too. - Okay. 1125 00:56:33,518 --> 00:56:35,311 Feel free to come inside whenever. 1126 00:56:35,311 --> 00:56:36,438 Come on, Moose. 1127 00:56:36,438 --> 00:56:38,356 Wednesday, we arrive to Chihuahua. 1128 00:56:38,356 --> 00:56:41,651 Thursday, we drive from Chihuahua to Basaseachi. 1129 00:56:41,651 --> 00:56:46,031 Friday, we drive to the top of the wall and rapp down to here. 1130 00:56:46,031 --> 00:56:47,407 Down to the bottom. 1131 00:56:47,407 --> 00:56:50,243 I was really excited to do a big wall. 1132 00:56:50,243 --> 00:56:53,371 I had never been on a big wall before. 1133 00:56:53,371 --> 00:56:58,376 I thought 300 bolts, portaledge, no problem. 1134 00:56:58,376 --> 00:57:01,755 I'd known Vian for about a decade. 1135 00:57:01,755 --> 00:57:06,301 She climbs super hard, and she's been an incredibly 1136 00:57:06,301 --> 00:57:07,635 supportive and loyal friend. 1137 00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:10,221 And so I was excited by the idea 1138 00:57:10,221 --> 00:57:11,431 of getting to know her better 1139 00:57:11,431 --> 00:57:13,808 and going on this big adventure with her. 1140 00:57:15,727 --> 00:57:17,687 Oh, she's got something equivalent. 1141 00:57:17,687 --> 00:57:19,689 Sasha's never been in this much pain. 1142 00:57:19,689 --> 00:57:21,566 She's never been in a situation 1143 00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:25,028 where she's this out of shape before a climb. 1144 00:57:25,028 --> 00:57:28,990 And seeing this audacious goal that she's thrown on herself, 1145 00:57:28,990 --> 00:57:30,533 it's just scary. 1146 00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:35,830 And I think everyone that loves her is terrified. 1147 00:57:35,830 --> 00:57:37,082 [tense music] 1148 00:57:37,082 --> 00:57:40,752 She needs to go prove to herself that she's still 1149 00:57:40,752 --> 00:57:45,298 a professional climber, that this injury hasn't 1150 00:57:45,298 --> 00:57:49,010 ripped away her identity. 1151 00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:51,846 I don't know where you click into that drive and that fire, 1152 00:57:51,846 --> 00:57:55,141 but she has it, and she clicks into it. 1153 00:57:55,141 --> 00:57:57,102 It's why she is who she is. 1154 00:57:57,102 --> 00:58:04,109 ♪ ♪ 1155 00:58:05,235 --> 00:58:08,446 Why I do what I do? 1156 00:58:08,446 --> 00:58:12,075 That's a big question. 1157 00:58:12,075 --> 00:58:15,161 ♪ ♪ 1158 00:58:15,161 --> 00:58:21,418 I think that proving a goal, that's what drives me. 1159 00:58:21,418 --> 00:58:28,466 ♪ ♪ 1160 00:58:28,633 --> 00:58:30,176 I'm nervous for the rappel more than the climb 1161 00:58:30,176 --> 00:58:34,305 right now, because that's what's the first thing to do, 1162 00:58:34,305 --> 00:58:36,099 and it's a lot of weight. 1163 00:58:36,099 --> 00:58:40,562 It's, like, maybe more weight than I'm used to rapping with. 1164 00:58:40,562 --> 00:58:42,397 You got this. 1165 00:58:42,397 --> 00:58:43,398 Thanks, Vian. 1166 00:58:43,398 --> 00:58:45,025 Mm-hmm. 1167 00:58:45,025 --> 00:58:47,527 Achieving something eats away at me. 1168 00:58:47,527 --> 00:58:53,616 Like, that's the way that I approach my life. 1169 00:58:58,371 --> 00:58:59,372 Yeah. 1170 00:58:59,372 --> 00:59:00,331 The death of my hips. 1171 00:59:00,331 --> 00:59:01,583 Ohh. 1172 00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:05,420 Ow, my fingers. 1173 00:59:05,420 --> 00:59:07,464 I hate this bag. 1174 00:59:07,464 --> 00:59:10,800 We've officially started the descent down. 1175 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,430 We all have pretty heavy haul bags. 1176 00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:21,061 And yeah, it's pretty phenomenal being here. 1177 00:59:21,061 --> 00:59:24,064 [light music] 1178 00:59:24,064 --> 00:59:31,112 ♪ ♪ 1179 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,659 The hips are so sore. 1180 00:59:36,659 --> 00:59:40,872 That's pretty. 1181 00:59:40,872 --> 00:59:42,832 - Yeah. - Do you copy? 1182 00:59:42,832 --> 00:59:46,670 After a night of no sleep, we're racking up to rapp down 1183 00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:48,463 these first eight pitches. 1184 00:59:48,463 --> 00:59:55,720 ♪ ♪ 1185 00:59:57,722 --> 01:00:00,350 Made it to the bottom. 1186 01:00:00,350 --> 01:00:01,434 We're at the bottom. 1187 01:00:01,434 --> 01:00:03,353 Do you want to go first, or should I? 1188 01:00:03,353 --> 01:00:05,063 Whatever. Want to Roshambo for it? 1189 01:00:05,063 --> 01:00:06,648 Yeah. 1190 01:00:06,648 --> 01:00:14,989 Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. 1191 01:00:14,989 --> 01:00:16,116 I go first. 1192 01:00:16,116 --> 01:00:23,164 ♪ ♪ 1193 01:00:24,624 --> 01:00:28,545 Top of the second, pulling Vian up. 1194 01:00:28,545 --> 01:00:30,588 There she is. 1195 01:00:30,588 --> 01:00:33,842 This is what's ahead of us. 1196 01:00:33,842 --> 01:00:37,303 ♪ ♪ 1197 01:00:37,303 --> 01:00:38,847 We'll see how it goes. 1198 01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:45,895 ♪ ♪ 1199 01:00:59,117 --> 01:01:02,662 We are here sitting forever in the sun. 1200 01:01:02,662 --> 01:01:03,997 There's the sun. 1201 01:01:03,997 --> 01:01:05,248 Ow. 1202 01:01:05,248 --> 01:01:06,583 That hurt your eyes, didn't it? You weren't expecting that. 1203 01:01:06,583 --> 01:01:10,587 You two would have been like fried chicken. 1204 01:01:10,587 --> 01:01:12,589 It was definitely really hot. 1205 01:01:12,589 --> 01:01:15,342 The sun is just baking, and the rock temperature 1206 01:01:15,342 --> 01:01:17,177 just goes way up. 1207 01:01:17,177 --> 01:01:19,596 And it's just a lot harder when the rock temperature 1208 01:01:19,596 --> 01:01:22,515 is a lot higher. 1209 01:01:22,515 --> 01:01:27,354 And it's so hot right now. 1210 01:01:41,534 --> 01:01:44,496 [tense music] 1211 01:01:44,496 --> 01:01:51,711 ♪ ♪ 1212 01:01:55,173 --> 01:01:57,217 Come on, work that right foot in. 1213 01:01:57,217 --> 01:02:00,095 Come on, Digi, come on. 1214 01:02:00,095 --> 01:02:02,514 ♪ ♪ 1215 01:02:02,514 --> 01:02:03,515 Ahh! 1216 01:02:03,515 --> 01:02:04,766 Oh, shit. 1217 01:02:04,766 --> 01:02:07,602 Fuck. - All right. 1218 01:02:07,602 --> 01:02:13,233 ♪ ♪ 1219 01:02:13,233 --> 01:02:16,611 Right foot high. 1220 01:02:16,611 --> 01:02:20,240 [exhales] 1221 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,492 [groans] 1222 01:02:22,492 --> 01:02:29,541 ♪ ♪ 1223 01:02:31,459 --> 01:02:34,337 I see the next draw. 1224 01:02:34,337 --> 01:02:38,717 [exhales] 1225 01:02:38,717 --> 01:02:43,263 ♪ ♪ 1226 01:02:43,263 --> 01:02:46,224 [breathing heavily] 1227 01:02:46,224 --> 01:02:51,146 Okay. All right. 1228 01:02:51,146 --> 01:02:53,565 [exhales] 1229 01:02:53,565 --> 01:02:56,651 Okay. 1230 01:02:56,651 --> 01:03:01,656 ♪ ♪ 1231 01:03:01,656 --> 01:03:07,120 [indistinct]. 1232 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,747 Whoo! 1233 01:03:08,747 --> 01:03:11,750 I'm at the anchor. 1234 01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:14,544 Nice job. 1235 01:03:14,544 --> 01:03:18,423 Oh, my God. 1236 01:03:18,423 --> 01:03:20,342 I'm, like, shaking. 1237 01:03:20,342 --> 01:03:24,804 That's probably as hard as I've ever seen her try. 1238 01:03:24,804 --> 01:03:28,391 And it just showed to me how, like, 1239 01:03:28,391 --> 01:03:31,936 how fragile she was or how much she just wanted this, 1240 01:03:31,936 --> 01:03:34,272 how badly she wanted this, you know, 1241 01:03:34,272 --> 01:03:35,607 and for some people, it's just, like, 1242 01:03:35,607 --> 01:03:36,608 it's just a climb, you know. 1243 01:03:36,608 --> 01:03:39,277 It's okay to say-- to stop, you know? 1244 01:03:39,277 --> 01:03:42,739 You know, you just-- you just had surgery not that long ago. 1245 01:03:42,739 --> 01:03:45,450 It's, like, maybe it was too-- 1246 01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:46,993 too early. 1247 01:03:46,993 --> 01:03:49,954 You know, but for Sasha, she just really needed this. 1248 01:03:49,954 --> 01:03:52,374 What made you keep going? 1249 01:03:52,374 --> 01:03:53,792 I think I just-- 1250 01:03:53,792 --> 01:03:56,961 I literally just could think right foot, 1251 01:03:56,961 --> 01:04:00,924 right hand, left foot, left hand. 1252 01:04:00,924 --> 01:04:04,511 Like, I couldn't think of anything else. 1253 01:04:04,511 --> 01:04:06,888 And then I was like, you made it through the crux. 1254 01:04:06,888 --> 01:04:09,099 Like, just keep it together. 1255 01:04:09,099 --> 01:04:11,476 It'll be one less pitch for tomorrow. 1256 01:04:11,476 --> 01:04:14,479 [birds chirping] 1257 01:04:18,817 --> 01:04:21,111 Day three, we don't know whose spoon this is. 1258 01:04:21,111 --> 01:04:22,028 That's all. 1259 01:04:22,028 --> 01:04:23,738 I wasn't trying to, like-- 1260 01:04:23,738 --> 01:04:25,323 Day three, I don't know whose spoon this is. 1261 01:04:25,323 --> 01:04:26,658 I wasn't trying to make you feel bad or anything. 1262 01:04:26,658 --> 01:04:28,952 That'd be my spoon, but we can share. 1263 01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:30,829 Sharing is caring. 1264 01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:32,747 Man, I'm, like, triple-fisting. 1265 01:04:32,747 --> 01:04:35,500 I got my dirty Chai with collagen, 1266 01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:39,754 my trail mix, and my Red Bull. 1267 01:04:39,754 --> 01:04:41,840 Mm-hmm. 1268 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,801 And Kevin's over there taking a shit. 1269 01:04:44,801 --> 01:04:47,846 Kevin? 1270 01:04:47,846 --> 01:04:50,348 We're just one big, happy family. 1271 01:04:50,348 --> 01:04:52,434 [light music] 1272 01:04:52,434 --> 01:04:58,773 After my surgeries, I lost touch with who I was. 1273 01:04:58,773 --> 01:05:01,067 ♪ ♪ 1274 01:05:01,067 --> 01:05:05,947 And I lost touch with what it even feels like to succeed. 1275 01:05:05,947 --> 01:05:08,408 During the whole time of being injured, 1276 01:05:08,408 --> 01:05:11,536 I didn't have any feeling of success. 1277 01:05:11,536 --> 01:05:13,246 ♪ ♪ 1278 01:05:13,246 --> 01:05:15,540 You got it. 1279 01:05:15,540 --> 01:05:16,583 Left hand up. 1280 01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:19,377 I put my right foot high. 1281 01:05:19,377 --> 01:05:20,712 Yeah. 1282 01:05:20,712 --> 01:05:22,672 [indistinct]. 1283 01:05:22,672 --> 01:05:26,176 Two finger, get your right foot up. 1284 01:05:26,176 --> 01:05:30,221 ♪ ♪ 1285 01:05:30,221 --> 01:05:32,724 We got into a situation where we had to climb 1286 01:05:32,724 --> 01:05:35,393 a little bit at night. 1287 01:05:35,393 --> 01:05:39,397 And we went into the area where Nolan had his accident. 1288 01:05:39,397 --> 01:05:41,441 And I know Sasha didn't want to climb 1289 01:05:41,441 --> 01:05:43,151 that pitch in the dark. 1290 01:05:43,151 --> 01:05:48,114 It was pretty scary. 1291 01:05:48,114 --> 01:05:53,870 I just passed Nolan's rock scar where the rock broke. 1292 01:05:53,870 --> 01:05:57,165 It's pretty visible, but I couldn't see 1293 01:05:57,165 --> 01:05:58,416 what happened with the bolt. 1294 01:05:58,416 --> 01:06:01,628 My guess would be that really big rock 1295 01:06:01,628 --> 01:06:04,089 picked off and cut his rope. 1296 01:06:04,089 --> 01:06:07,300 It was really scary, because as I was passing that, 1297 01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:11,763 my headlamp flashed that it was dying. 1298 01:06:11,763 --> 01:06:16,768 ♪ ♪ 1299 01:06:16,768 --> 01:06:21,481 Nolan didn't make any mistakes, 1300 01:06:21,481 --> 01:06:25,110 yet he died climbing. 1301 01:06:25,110 --> 01:06:28,488 It affected me in a really heavy way, 1302 01:06:28,488 --> 01:06:32,450 because everything was done right. 1303 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:39,499 ♪ ♪ 1304 01:06:41,376 --> 01:06:44,462 So many nights of not sleeping is killing me. 1305 01:06:44,462 --> 01:06:46,923 I think I was in the harness for 20 hours. 1306 01:06:46,923 --> 01:06:51,886 We've got three more really long 5.12 pitches 1307 01:06:51,886 --> 01:06:54,889 that we need to do tomorrow to then kind of 1308 01:06:54,889 --> 01:06:59,644 be back in the running to feel like the rest of this route 1309 01:06:59,644 --> 01:07:03,189 is possible on free. 1310 01:07:09,279 --> 01:07:11,322 I went left foot pocket. 1311 01:07:11,322 --> 01:07:14,034 Yeah. 1312 01:07:17,579 --> 01:07:19,873 Augh! God! 1313 01:07:19,873 --> 01:07:21,666 That's a really hard transition. 1314 01:07:21,666 --> 01:07:22,709 It's hard. 1315 01:07:24,627 --> 01:07:26,296 Nice. 1316 01:07:26,296 --> 01:07:28,465 [grunts] 1317 01:07:28,465 --> 01:07:30,425 Good job. 1318 01:07:30,425 --> 01:07:31,426 Fuck, yeah. 1319 01:07:31,426 --> 01:07:32,427 Hell, yeah. 1320 01:07:32,427 --> 01:07:36,097 Good job. 1321 01:07:36,097 --> 01:07:38,683 - Pitch 13. - Done. 1322 01:07:38,683 --> 01:07:39,809 [chuckles] 1323 01:07:39,809 --> 01:07:41,686 [laughs] 1324 01:07:41,686 --> 01:07:44,689 Strenuous 45 minutes. 1325 01:07:44,689 --> 01:07:48,902 Holy guacamole. 1326 01:07:48,902 --> 01:07:50,278 Ohh. 1327 01:07:50,278 --> 01:07:53,031 Another pitch bites the dust. 1328 01:07:53,031 --> 01:07:56,117 So we've officially crossed this side. 1329 01:07:56,117 --> 01:08:01,373 Now we're coming up to finger to fist, route 17. 1330 01:08:03,083 --> 01:08:06,836 Going to-- 1331 01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:14,886 [grunting] 1332 01:08:22,644 --> 01:08:24,813 Oh, yeah, we're going to do the Spread Eagle. 1333 01:08:24,813 --> 01:08:25,814 Augh! 1334 01:08:25,814 --> 01:08:26,815 [laughs] 1335 01:08:26,815 --> 01:08:27,899 Ahh! 1336 01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:29,192 Augh. 1337 01:08:29,192 --> 01:08:32,570 That was a serious crag. 1338 01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:38,660 Augh! 1339 01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:40,578 [laughs] 1340 01:08:40,578 --> 01:08:41,705 Yeah, girl. 1341 01:08:41,705 --> 01:08:42,997 Augh! 1342 01:08:42,997 --> 01:08:48,378 Yes, sun. 1343 01:08:48,378 --> 01:08:49,504 Whoo. 1344 01:08:49,504 --> 01:08:51,339 Yeah. Okay. 1345 01:08:51,339 --> 01:08:52,507 That's it. - Whoo! 1346 01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:54,592 Whoo! 1347 01:08:54,592 --> 01:08:56,886 Pow! 1348 01:08:56,886 --> 01:08:58,638 You're a good lead. 1349 01:08:58,638 --> 01:09:00,390 Thanks. 1350 01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:01,474 Move. 1351 01:09:01,474 --> 01:09:02,726 Am I in your face with my butt? 1352 01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:03,768 Oh! 1353 01:09:03,768 --> 01:09:04,853 Jesus. 1354 01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:06,563 That thing did look good. 1355 01:09:06,563 --> 01:09:09,065 Sure wasn't, though. 1356 01:09:09,065 --> 01:09:12,068 [tense music] 1357 01:09:12,068 --> 01:09:13,945 ♪ ♪ 1358 01:09:13,945 --> 01:09:16,698 Just a little choss left. 1359 01:09:16,698 --> 01:09:19,826 I'm trying, Mom. 1360 01:09:19,826 --> 01:09:21,786 [laughs] 1361 01:09:21,786 --> 01:09:23,788 Got your spot. 1362 01:09:23,788 --> 01:09:25,331 I actually just did. 1363 01:09:25,331 --> 01:09:27,667 I think it saved you. 1364 01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:34,758 ♪ ♪ 1365 01:09:41,306 --> 01:09:42,223 Stay with it. 1366 01:09:42,223 --> 01:09:43,808 You got it. 1367 01:09:43,808 --> 01:09:48,063 [breathing heavily] 1368 01:09:48,063 --> 01:09:49,022 Nice, Sasha. 1369 01:09:49,022 --> 01:09:53,818 Come on. 1370 01:09:53,818 --> 01:09:58,823 Ahh! Fuck. 1371 01:09:58,823 --> 01:09:59,824 Nothing broke. 1372 01:09:59,824 --> 01:10:00,825 Nothing. 1373 01:10:00,825 --> 01:10:01,826 So much stuff broke. 1374 01:10:01,826 --> 01:10:04,245 It's so hard there. 1375 01:10:04,245 --> 01:10:05,955 Try that again. 1376 01:10:05,955 --> 01:10:06,956 Okay. 1377 01:10:06,956 --> 01:10:08,249 Ahh! 1378 01:10:08,249 --> 01:10:10,043 Such a big move. 1379 01:10:10,043 --> 01:10:11,044 Yeah. 1380 01:10:11,044 --> 01:10:12,587 Holy shit. 1381 01:10:12,587 --> 01:10:15,048 Yeah. 1382 01:10:15,048 --> 01:10:16,216 ♪ ♪ 1383 01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:19,719 Man, I thought I could get that last pitch. 1384 01:10:19,719 --> 01:10:23,515 Such a bummer. 1385 01:10:23,515 --> 01:10:26,518 If it sticks once, it won't be as good. 1386 01:10:26,518 --> 01:10:31,815 So start in the back and then end in the back. 1387 01:10:33,483 --> 01:10:38,697 I'm just like your personal assistant here. 1388 01:10:38,697 --> 01:10:40,198 [laughs] 1389 01:10:40,198 --> 01:10:42,450 No, I said, you're my best friend. 1390 01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:43,827 - Okay. - Short of Moose. 1391 01:10:43,827 --> 01:10:46,246 You tell that to all your climbing partners. 1392 01:10:46,246 --> 01:10:48,998 I don't have climbing partners. 1393 01:10:54,212 --> 01:10:57,340 When I met her in 2011 when she was 16, 1394 01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:01,720 she was very much a protected kid. 1395 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:07,892 ♪ ♪ 1396 01:11:07,892 --> 01:11:13,648 But now Sasha is so strong, and she's capable of anything. 1397 01:11:13,648 --> 01:11:20,697 ♪ ♪ 1398 01:11:24,075 --> 01:11:28,538 And I'll just climb over here. 1399 01:11:28,538 --> 01:11:35,587 ♪ ♪ 1400 01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:04,949 After my dad died, 1401 01:12:04,949 --> 01:12:07,827 I recognized that you're mourning this space 1402 01:12:07,827 --> 01:12:12,290 that they left behind. 1403 01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:14,501 And that space that they leave behind is-- 1404 01:12:14,501 --> 01:12:16,461 it's really painful to think about, like, 1405 01:12:16,461 --> 01:12:21,466 it never being filled again. 1406 01:12:21,466 --> 01:12:25,303 That space is what I keep trying to fill. 1407 01:12:25,303 --> 01:12:28,264 [inspirational music] 1408 01:12:28,264 --> 01:12:35,480 ♪ ♪ 1409 01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:48,827 We did it. 1410 01:12:48,827 --> 01:12:54,791 ♪ ♪ 1411 01:12:54,791 --> 01:12:58,420 It's kind of crazy. 1412 01:12:58,420 --> 01:13:02,507 I didn't even know if I'd be climbing again 1413 01:13:02,507 --> 01:13:06,261 when I went in for all those surgeries. 1414 01:13:06,261 --> 01:13:07,345 I really didn't. 1415 01:13:07,345 --> 01:13:11,057 I didn't know what to expect. 1416 01:13:11,057 --> 01:13:13,643 [chuckles] 1417 01:13:13,643 --> 01:13:16,688 [sobbing] 1418 01:13:26,531 --> 01:13:29,617 [light music] 1419 01:13:29,617 --> 01:13:36,666 ♪ ♪ 1420 01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:46,593 Climbing's opened a lot of doors for me 1421 01:13:46,593 --> 01:13:48,261 to go down this journey... 1422 01:13:48,261 --> 01:13:51,556 ♪ ♪ 1423 01:13:51,556 --> 01:13:54,392 But also to realize that a lot of satisfaction 1424 01:13:54,392 --> 01:13:57,687 and joy that I get out of life 1425 01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:58,980 doesn't need to always come 1426 01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:03,651 from the physical sense of sending. 1427 01:14:03,651 --> 01:14:08,365 And my path forward doesn't necessarily center 1428 01:14:08,365 --> 01:14:10,283 around climbing. 1429 01:14:10,283 --> 01:14:16,039 ♪ A million little knives ♪ 1430 01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:17,957 ♪ Carve out your name ♪ 1431 01:14:17,957 --> 01:14:21,336 [all shouting] 1432 01:14:21,336 --> 01:14:25,632 ♪ In the small of my back ♪ 1433 01:14:25,632 --> 01:14:29,052 I needed to learn purpose beyond a wall. 1434 01:14:29,052 --> 01:14:33,056 And I think that that does come with a sense of security. 1435 01:14:33,056 --> 01:14:35,725 And I would argue that it comes with a sense 1436 01:14:35,725 --> 01:14:40,855 of career and sense of home. 1437 01:14:40,855 --> 01:14:43,900 ♪ ♪ 1438 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:45,902 I didn't want to tell the City of Boulder 1439 01:14:45,902 --> 01:14:48,530 that we're done, because I just want 1440 01:14:48,530 --> 01:14:50,365 to be complete with the whole project. 1441 01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:51,950 - Yeah. - And at that point, 1442 01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:56,454 we can address this issue of possibly changing the name, 1443 01:14:56,454 --> 01:14:59,624 because they have it registered as Vamos Chicas. 1444 01:14:59,624 --> 01:15:03,211 And Queen Line might be a better name 1445 01:15:03,211 --> 01:15:05,088 just because it's on the maiden. 1446 01:15:05,088 --> 01:15:07,716 And it is the best line, I think, 1447 01:15:07,716 --> 01:15:09,342 on that whole formation. 1448 01:15:09,342 --> 01:15:11,594 And you always hear King Line. 1449 01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:13,054 - Yeah. - Why not Queen Line? 1450 01:15:13,054 --> 01:15:14,139 Or, like, the queen. 1451 01:15:14,139 --> 01:15:16,141 The queen, the queens. 1452 01:15:16,141 --> 01:15:17,225 The queens. 1453 01:15:17,225 --> 01:15:19,602 Yeah, I like it, Queen Line. 1454 01:15:19,602 --> 01:15:24,315 I think it's a perfect name. 1455 01:15:24,315 --> 01:15:27,318 [light music] 1456 01:15:27,318 --> 01:15:29,821 ♪ ♪ 1457 01:15:29,821 --> 01:15:31,656 This is the day. We're going to do it. 1458 01:15:31,656 --> 01:15:33,867 Let's go. The queen on the line. 1459 01:15:33,867 --> 01:15:37,787 Ladies and gentlemen, the first pitch. 1460 01:15:37,787 --> 01:15:40,415 Here we go. 1461 01:15:40,415 --> 01:15:42,709 ♪ ♪ 1462 01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:45,003 Lynn's shown to me how to age gracefully 1463 01:15:45,003 --> 01:15:46,838 within the sport and still be involved 1464 01:15:46,838 --> 01:15:51,968 and still be a steward of the community 1465 01:15:51,968 --> 01:15:55,180 and be out there pushing new lines 1466 01:15:55,180 --> 01:15:57,390 and supporting climbers. 1467 01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:04,647 ♪ ♪ 1468 01:16:19,662 --> 01:16:22,874 Sasha has a chance to really look at periods 1469 01:16:22,874 --> 01:16:27,087 of life and what her actual goals are.. 1470 01:16:27,087 --> 01:16:30,173 ♪ ♪ 1471 01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:32,634 What she wants to do, not what's expected of her, 1472 01:16:32,634 --> 01:16:36,554 but what she wants to do, what makes her happy. 1473 01:16:36,554 --> 01:16:40,725 ♪ ♪ 1474 01:16:40,725 --> 01:16:42,811 She's young and still ambitious 1475 01:16:42,811 --> 01:16:44,854 and wanting to do more and more. 1476 01:16:44,854 --> 01:16:46,981 At 30, she's still got a lot of time 1477 01:16:46,981 --> 01:16:51,236 to do a lot of really amazing things. 1478 01:16:51,236 --> 01:16:58,284 ♪ ♪ 1479 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,583 We each have that thing that drives us. 1480 01:17:05,583 --> 01:17:07,377 And that thing that drives us, 1481 01:17:07,377 --> 01:17:14,426 that passion is what I feel really strongly about 1482 01:17:14,551 --> 01:17:18,763 harnessing and embracing and nurturing. 1483 01:17:18,763 --> 01:17:21,725 And that's more important than any summit, 1484 01:17:21,725 --> 01:17:24,227 than any achievement. 1485 01:17:24,227 --> 01:17:31,276 ♪ ♪ 1486 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,160 [Weval's "Days"] 1487 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:47,208 ♪ ♪ 1488 01:17:53,631 --> 01:17:59,763 ♪ No, no, no, no, no ♪ 1489 01:17:59,763 --> 01:18:04,851 ♪ And I will never be ♪ 1490 01:18:04,851 --> 01:18:11,358 ♪ And I will never see ♪ 1491 01:18:11,358 --> 01:18:15,820 ♪ And every choice I make ♪ 1492 01:18:15,820 --> 01:18:21,409 ♪ Consequences negative ♪ 1493 01:18:21,409 --> 01:18:26,664 ♪ Battle zone is known to me ♪ 1494 01:18:26,664 --> 01:18:32,462 ♪ And you to me ♪ 1495 01:18:32,462 --> 01:18:37,300 ♪ Most important feel, feel ♪ 1496 01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:44,349 ♪ ♪ 1497 01:18:51,314 --> 01:18:52,649 ♪ No, no, no, no, no, ♪ 1498 01:18:52,649 --> 01:18:56,486 ♪ No no, no, no, no no, no, no, no ♪ 1499 01:18:56,486 --> 01:18:58,530 [bright tone] 106447

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