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Whoa, what was that?!
I saw something,
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just boom,
real quick, across the sky.
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We need a much larger rocket
that can go up through
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the triangle
and multiple very large lasers.
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You are proposing
something on a grand scale.
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-TRAVIS: There it goes.
-DAVE: Oh, (bleep). Let’s go.
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Oh, my God.
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ERIK:
Travis, you-you got to see this.
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BRANDON:
It disappeared.
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TRAVIS:
What did it disappear into?
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BRANDON:
Are we seeing portals opening?
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-Hey, Pete.
-Hey, hey.
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ERIK:
Yeah, it’s good
to have you back.
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Can’t wait to see what
you’re packing this time.
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-(chuckles)
-How’s it going?
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TRAVIS:
We’ve had
the most incredible year yet
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investigating and stimulating
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all kinds of strange phenomena
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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But the weather is
about to turn really harsh,
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as fall sets in, meaning
that we’re out of time
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to conduct any more
large-scale experiments.
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PETE:
I brought some goodies.
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-We can do photogrammetry.
-Now, that’s good.
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TRAVIS: So we invited
technologist Pete Kelsey back
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to perform a final high-tech
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3D photogrammetry drone scan
of the entire ranch.
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Well, I’m excited
to have you out here.
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-It’d be great
to take you back to the mesa.
-Let’s go.
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All right. Let’s do it.
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TRAVIS:
Photogrammetry is a process
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where thousands
of high-definition photographs
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are taken of an area of interest
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and combined to create a
detailed three-dimensional map,
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potentially
revealing features
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that aren’t visible
to the naked eye.
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-THOMAS:
About right here is good.
-TRAVIS: All right.
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Before we have to put
our investigation
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on hold until next year,
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we want to get a 3D model
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of every part of the ranch
to see if any anomalies appear.
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If something shows up,
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maybe it will help us determine
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what is behind all the UAPs
and the other phenomena
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that we’ve documented here.
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-This looks great.
-Uh-huh.
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TRAVIS:
Well, start, uh, getting set up
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-and let’s do this thing.
-PETE: Okay.
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ERIK:
Pete Kelsey has brought
on some of the most advanced
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technology one can get
his hands on.
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-PETE: Have a matching set,
thank you.
-BRYANT: Okay, yeah, sure.
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ERIK:
This drone is
a robotic flying platform
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that has
exquisite spatial awareness.
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That very precise
positional awareness
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is essential for reconstructing
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an accurate three-dimensional
model of the property.
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We’re interested to find out
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whether the results will
bear out anything anomalous.
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PETE:
Well, I’m ready
when you guys are.
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ERIK:
Great. We need to get back
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to the command center
to work on some stuff.
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Maybe we’ll just
leave you to go at it.
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Yeah, I’ve got all my stuff
here, so I’ll just have at it.
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Okay, well, if it’s all right
with you I’ll stick around.
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I don’t like leaving
guests out here by themselves.
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So, if you’re okay with some
company, I’ll stay with you.
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-I... I appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
-Okay, happy to.
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All right. Well, we’ll load up
and head back.
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PETE:
So, once all the data
I’ve collected
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is post-processed in a nice,
neat package, I hand that
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to Erik, and he does
the heavy lifting, and that is
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spending hours and hours
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going through this data,
because it’s all visual.
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All right, I’ve got
all green lights here.
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Spinning up.
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♪ ♪
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Literally it comes down
to putting eyes on the model
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and looking
for anything interesting.
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Have a look.
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BRYANT:
That’s so cool.
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That’s amazing.
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TRAVIS:
While Pete was conducting
his photogrammetry scan
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of the ranch,
I went to my trailer
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to have a videoconference with
author and renowned astronomer
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Seth Shostak.
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Hello, Seth. How you doing?
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-Travis, good to see you.
-It’s been a while.
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Uh, I wanted to catch up
with you and...
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Now, Seth is
the senior astronomer
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for the institute known as SETI.
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Which stands for the Search
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for
Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
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I wanted to talk to him about
the mysterious
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1.6 gigahertz signal
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that we’ve been detecting
on the ranch,
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which I believe could be some
kind of communication signal.
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As you know,
I’m out here as part
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of this investigation
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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And we’re actually finding
some really weird stuff.
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We’re finding
optical phenomena
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and all sorts of
different regimes of energy.
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And even a strange RF signal
at 1.6 gigahertz.
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And what I wanted to ask you
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is, if I found a signal
that I thought
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was
an intelligent communication,
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what protocols
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SETI would use
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in a situation like that?
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Uh, to start, you know,
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verifying,
validating and reporting?
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Well, there is a protocol.
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In fact, I was the chair
of the, uh, committee
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that revised those protocols
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about five years ago.
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First thing is,
if you pick up a signal that
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you think might be ET,
you want to make sure it isn’t
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a telecommunications satellite,
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it isn’t the radar down
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at a local airport
or anything like that.
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The second thing you do is,
you tell everybody.
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You would want to do that
because you want people
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at other facilities
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to check out the signal, too.
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I see.
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So, let me ask you a question.
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Say we have confirmed
an optical, uh... signal.
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And it’s repeatable.
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If you go through the process
and you...
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rule out all of the...
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potential, uh, logical culprits.
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The microwave oven,
an airplane...
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a-a satellite,
you know, those types of things.
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What would be your next step
in, in, uh, verifying?
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Well, as to say, uh, you know,
you’re really critically
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dependent
on being able to verify
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the signal
at some other facility.
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So, you would insist on
finding it somewhere else.
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Right.
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All right, Erik.
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She’s about to broadcast it.
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Seth’s suggestion
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that we would want confirmation
of the 1.6 gigahertz
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communication signal
at another location struck me
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because that’s exactly
what happened a month ago
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at the Jack FM radio station
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about 11 miles
north of Skinwalker Ranch.
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After the station manager
and DJ, Jenn Rook,
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told me and Erik that
the same kind of signal had
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infiltrated their airwaves,
we decided to see what
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would happen
if she broadcast it back out.
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-There it is.
-Wow.
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It really changed
her waveform big-time.
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Well, the next day, Jim Morse
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showed us some incredible
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videos of UAPs
that were recorded
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by people in the area
later that night.
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ERIK:
Jim, When was this video taken?
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Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
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-Really?
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That’s just a few hours
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after we played that sound
on the radio, Erik.
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No kidding.
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Well, it sounds
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as if the signal
you’re picking up is
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generated locally, right?
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That there’s something
in your immediate area
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that is producing this signal.
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Is that kind of what
you’re suggesting here?
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Yep.
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So imagine,
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you know,
an advanced civilization
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wanted to communicate
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in real time,
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what type of phenomenology
or telltale signs
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might SETI look for?
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If it’s really coming
from another society,
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it would be in one direction.
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And that’s kind of the clue,
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that you would see it coming
from that direction on the sky.
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I think that’s exactly
what I wanted to hear, Seth.
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It was interesting how Seth,
a highly accredited scientist
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who researches
the potential for ET life,
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believed the type
of communication signal
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we’ve detected would come from
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a specific direction,
because that’s
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exactly what
happened on the ranch.
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Go back the other way.
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Five weeks ago, when we detected
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the 1.6 gigahertz signal,
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it came from a specific spot.
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It’s coming back.
Right there, right there, stop.
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Where we had just launched
a rocket near Homestead Two.
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-So it’s very directional.
-Yeah.
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Are you kidding me?
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And then, later that night,
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Erik recorded an incredible UAP
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moving around the homestead.
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We can’t be for sure
if that communication signal
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we’ve detected was
what led to the UAP appearing,
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or if it represents
more evidence
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that portals could really exist
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on Skinwalker Ranch,
but talking with Seth
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just makes me more convinced
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that we are getting closer
to some answers.
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That helps me a lot.
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I really appreciate it.
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Well, any time, Travis. You
know, it’s always my pleasure
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-to speak with you.
-Yeah, me, too, man.
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If we do find something
and we need to get someone
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out here to verify, uh,
I’ll give you a call.
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-Thanks, Travis.
-Uh-huh.
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Buh-bye.
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BRYANT:
Howdy, Erik.
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-Hey.
-How’s it going, Erik?
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That’s a pretty picture of the
mesa that you got there, Erik.
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Oh, you, you
are gonna enjoy this.
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TRAVIS:
The day after
Pete Kelsey conducted
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his photogrammetry scan
of the ranch,
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he sent Erik all of his
compiled data files
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for us to review.
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ERIK: Well, I’ve got only
about a billion data points.
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Of course this comes out of Pete
Kelsey’s recent survey work.
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This is
a three-dimensional model.
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It’s point-cloud data.
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What it is,
is individual points that
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have been located through
a complex algorithm
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coming out
of all these thousands
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of pictures that he’s taken.
So you take all those images,
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you stitch them together
and you get a three-dimensional
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-model. Oh, yeah.
-That’s incredible.
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Yeah, so, I’ve
been diving into this.
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And turns out there are some
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very interesting artifacts
showing up.
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-Whoa! I just saw one.
-You might. Did you see it?
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-Yeah. In the sky.
-Okay.
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-KALEB: Oh. Right there.
-ERIK: Yes!
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-TRAVIS: Oh, weird.
-ERIK: Yes.
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THOMAS:
That looks like that’s a whole
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-bunch of points right there.
-Oh, it is.
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Well, what would cause it to
do that if that’s up in the air?
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That’s the question.
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Look at this structure.
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This phantom structure
that’s sticking up in the sky.
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-TRAVIS: This is odd.
I got to tell you...
-ERIK: There it is.
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TRAVIS:
Wow, that thing is really
prominent from here, it’s like,
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-it’s a...
some sort of big feature.
-ERIK: Yeah.
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ERIK:
You know, it looks more
than a hundred feet in the air.
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That’s nuts.
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ERIK: One way of interpreting
this is to say
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that the drone did not,
uh, properly register
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its correct GPS position
when it took the pictures.
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-Were you thinking that?
-I was, I was about to suggest
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that we’ve had such trouble
with those drones
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and their GPS coordinates
being spoofed,
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-hacked or jammed.
-ERIK: Yes. Yes.
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What if it thought it was
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somewhere else
when it took those pictures?
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-But you’ve
got tens of positions.
-ERIK: Correct.
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TRAVIS:
That-that should
cancel itself out.
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Well, you’d have to have
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a lingering condition
in that space
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that causes
some sort of displacement,
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some phantom displacement
of the reckoned position,
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the measured position
of the drone in the sky.
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TRAVIS:
What’s so strange here is,
if the GPS
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was being spoofed
for the whole survey,
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the final photogrammetry image
would be a big blur.
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That’s not
what’s happening at all.
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This one specific spot
over the ranch is confusing
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the photogrammetry data
and confusing it from a number
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of different angles,
which makes me think there’s
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something really strange
about this particular area.
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ERIK:
Another interpretation might
be if you did have some kind
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of translucent effect
or object in the sky,
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then I suppose
it might also cause
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the algorithm
to perceive those pixels,
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whose color comes
from the ground, as being
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you know, somewhere else,
up in the air.
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Has Pete seen this before?
Did you ask him?
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That’s the other important
point. I’ve connected with Pete
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and I’ve also spoken with the,
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the vendor of this software,
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asking, "Is this common?"
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And the answer that
I’ve gotten is, "No."
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Really?
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This is not a common thing
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in the terrestrial surveys
like this.
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Are there any other areas
in his survey
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that have this
sort of artifact to them?
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Yes.
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I want to show you
something at another location
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that we’ve visited
that is part of this survey.
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-Okay.
-Okay?
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TRAVIS:
This is right above
the petroglyph area, right?
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-THOMAS: Yes.
-It is.
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Just on the edge
of our property.
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-TRAVIS: Right.
-ERIK: And you’ll recognize
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-the stone circle here.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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ERIK: And the feature
that I want to show you
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is actually
very close to this stone circle.
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-See what’s hap-- there you go.
-BRYANT: Oh, there you go.
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Right there.
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ERIK:
So let me spin us around.
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-I noticed a couple things here.
-Well, now look at this.
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ERIK:
And-and you may observe
the same thing I have.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, so line those two up,
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and where are they pointing?
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ERIK:
This feature, this artifact,
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the largest stone that was part
of the, of the stone circle
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and that prominent thing
that’s jetting up,
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you know, further to the south.
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You have three points in a line.
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THOMAS:
Wow.
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ERIK:
Interestingly
and somewhat mysteriously,
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the anomalies
to the south and to the north
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of the stone circle
align perfectly
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with that large center stone
in the stone circle itself.
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Could be a coincidence,
but it sure is suggestive.
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-What are the odds of that?
-ERIK: Right.
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We’ve learned not to ignore
any anomalous features
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in our data even if we have
no idea what to make of them.
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TRAVIS:
So that, to me,
seems like you’ve almost
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drawn a ray from
the other anomaly
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-through this stone...
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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...to this, this anomaly.
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If we’ve got
a line being drawn here,
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then what is
that line pointing to?
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What is the line there for?
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We need to mark these spots
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because, you know,
what if this is
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somehow mapping an anomaly
that we need to investigate.
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You remember last year
when we had that expert out,
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he said that the petroglyph
was depicting a portal.
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So, I mean,
if we’re getting way out there,
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that pillar’s alignment with it
kind of looks like,
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in the data points, a spiraling
thing, portal-type feature.
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That’s interesting.
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Last year we had
Dr. Alan Garfinkel
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come out to examine some
petroglyphs we’d discovered
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on the east side of the property
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right by the location
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of this strange aerial
anomaly that we’re seeing.
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What I’m looking
at is these curves.
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It’s a metaphor for
a serpent or a snake.
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Snakes represents
two different worlds,
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so it’s a guardian
to the portals.
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The portal is
a window into the supernatural.
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TRAVIS:
Dragon is right about
the petroglyphs near this area,
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but this strange structure
in Pete’s photogrammetry data
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is right above a mysterious
spiral of boulders on the mesa.
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I’m thinking there’s
definitely something here.
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TRAVIS:
And earlier this year, Navajo
expert and historian John Dover
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told us this feature may have
been constructed by ancient
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Indigenous people to represent
a very specific phenomenon.
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JON: Looking at this place
in its entirety,
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it struck me as a holy place.
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We have basically
a spiral right here
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that’s been
put into this ground here.
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That spiral is indicative of...?
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A portal,
a dimensional rift, an opening.
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THOMAS: We have
so much data pointing that
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there is something up
in the sky going on.
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And I honestly,
I’m not so sure that
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that petroglyph isn’t
telling us that there’s
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-something in the sky
over the ranch, you know?
-Right.
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Because that’s
what it looks like.
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Could Pete Kelsey have actually
captured visual evidence
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that there really are portals
on Skinwalker Ranch?
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And could it help explain
why we see UAPs appear
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and then suddenly disappear?
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Well, we owe it to
ourselves to follow up
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on every data anomaly
that we come across,
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particularly
when they’re as prominent
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as the ones
we’re looking at here.
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Erik, the data is
absolutely fascinating.
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We need to meet
with Brandon and review this
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and everything else
we’ve learned this year.
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I think we’ve just got to do
that and follow up on this data.
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-ERIK: Yep.
-BRYANT: Let’s do it.
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-BRANDON: Greetings, everyone.
-ALL: Hey.
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I think everyone would
agree this past year has
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been the most
productive year in history,
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relative to the investigation
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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We launched this phase
of the investigation
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with former Governor Herbert.
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Uh, his interest
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and ongoing
engagement with this effort
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has been an important
part of really elevating
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the formality of this research
and how important it is.
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We also have joining us today,
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investigative journalist
George Knapp.
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Best known
as the leading journalist
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documenting
the reality of not only
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the ranch,
but this type of phenomena.
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I’d like to say, Governor,
by the way, you have
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a really beautiful state,
but it’s an awfully weird state.
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(laughter)
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I think today will be
a very eye-opening day
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and briefing for our guests.
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Well, I’m so excited to hear
what you have to tell me,
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and learn
from what’s taken place.
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I think it’s not
only important for Utah
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to find out what’s happening
within our borders, by the way,
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but for America and the world.
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And so what it leads us to,
who knows?
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But I think it’s important
that we find out.
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TRAVIS:
Yes, absolutely.
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I think the best thing to do
would be,
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uh, let’s just start.
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We’ve done so many experiments,
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captured so much video,
so much measurement data,
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of unidentified aerial
phenomena.
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We’ve seen so many this summer
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with the various experiments
that we’ve done and so many
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witnesses
and instruments capturing them
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that it’s undeniable that
that’s what we have captured.
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ERIK: Um, I do have
footage that I can share.
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I’m going to go ahead
and play it in real time.
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TRAVIS:
We had just launched a rocket
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over Homestead Two
and fortunately we did
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have a camera looking
in that direction.
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-HERBERT: Wow.
-THOMAS: It’s unbelievable.
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We saw so many this summer,
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I don’t know
that I could remember
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accurately and go back
and count how many there’s been.
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TRAVIS:
The experiments we conducted
this year led
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to some of the most
compelling and confounding UAP
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incidents ever documented
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Using rockets, and digging
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to stimulate the activity...
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Whoa! What was that?
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...UAPs appeared numerous
times at Homestead Two...
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-Hey, look, UAP right there!
-Yep, I see it.
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...and above the triangle area.
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Look in the sky, y’all!
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We’ve seen a lot of
unidentified aerial phenomena.
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Some that I would say
even qualify
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as unidentified flying objects.
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Erik, if you wanna show them
what it is that we saw.
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You’ll notice this bright
object to the center moving
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in a peculiar way and exhibiting
some peculiar characteristics.
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This object, whatever it is,
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appears brighter than Jupiter.
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-HERBERT: It’s clearly moving.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, and it is moving
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in a different way than
a satellite would be moving.
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There was no
air traffic in the area.
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And you see
no navigation lights.
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And it actually came toward us,
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and then it made
a dogleg maneuver,
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and then turned to the east.
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BRYANT:
We all saw with the naked eye,
this thing.
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I mean,
for lack of a better term,
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it looked almost
like a flying donut.
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I mean, it was bright.
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And then it had
a defined dark center to it.
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BRANDON:
This is a solid structure.
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It was captured from
multiple camera viewpoints.
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And had eyewitnesses both
on and off the ranch.
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HERBERT:
It looks like
there’s structure to it.
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And large enough
and bright enough
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that you could see it
with the naked eye.
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-Yes.
-Easily.
-Sure.
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This one is
the one that I would say
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is not a UAP, that it’s a UFO.
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And, Erik has captured an odd
sound emanating from the ranch.
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And we see it almost every time
one of these phenomena occur.
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Hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, it’s here!
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We got that 1.6 thing.
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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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ERIK:
I’m not broadcasting.
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I swear that sounds
like a communication signal.
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We see this
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1.6 or so gigahertz signal
484
00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:18,605
at times when we don’t have eyes
on any kind of UAP, there’s just
485
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:21,614
some other activity as part
of our investigation going on.
486
00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,157
For example, drilling, digging.
487
00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,412
Could this be a fingerprint?
488
00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:27,493
Or at least the trace evidence
489
00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:29,958
of the technology
that is being utilized?
490
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:32,119
That-that is a, uh,
possible speculation, Brandon,
491
00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:34,168
but I would say it’s one
of those correlations that
492
00:21:34,251 --> 00:21:37,091
we haven’t proved
that they’re definitively tied
493
00:21:37,171 --> 00:21:38,921
to each other,
but the statistics are really
494
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:41,586
getting hard to, uh, ignore.
495
00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:43,835
I’ve heard these stories
about people that pick up
496
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,599
radio stations on the fillings
in their teeth over the years.
497
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,100
Uh, coming back
to the idea of frequencies,
498
00:21:49,183 --> 00:21:51,483
Lue Elizondo,
who headed the AATIP program,
499
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,600
has indicated that there is a
frequency that they have studied
500
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,268
that pops up again and again
in these military
501
00:21:57,358 --> 00:22:00,108
encounters with
what we’d call UAP or UFOs.
502
00:22:00,194 --> 00:22:04,704
I can tell you, uh,
definitively that the UAPx guys,
503
00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:07,494
they told us
specifically that they were
504
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,576
looking for microwaves,
so I told them,
505
00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:11,833
"Just look between
one and three gigahertz,"
506
00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:14,044
and they
came back to us and said,
507
00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:16,246
"We had a sighting the other
night and you were right.
508
00:22:16,377 --> 00:22:18,167
We picked up
something at 1.6 gigahertz."
509
00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:20,714
-And this was in California.
-Wow.
510
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,220
So, it seems that this
1.6 gigahertz is somehow
511
00:22:24,301 --> 00:22:27,011
-connected to these sightings.
-Yeah.
512
00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:30,306
Well, uh, there’s some
kind of electromagnetic effects.
513
00:22:30,391 --> 00:22:32,811
It’s always been
associated with the ranch.
514
00:22:32,893 --> 00:22:34,903
Uh, when you think
you’re ready to document it,
515
00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:37,019
it goes somewhere else.
It plays tricks on you.
516
00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:39,646
Compasses spin, batteries die,
517
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:43,153
vehicles crap out,
cameras go off-line.
518
00:22:43,237 --> 00:22:45,067
And whatever this force is,
519
00:22:45,155 --> 00:22:47,065
whatever the source
of the intelligence,
520
00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:48,989
it shows you
that it’s in charge.
521
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:54,245
It reminds me
of this recent experience...
522
00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:57,539
...with Dragon and Tom Lewis.
523
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:02,419
I think it’s important for...
524
00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:04,256
Governor Herbert to hear
525
00:23:04,341 --> 00:23:06,471
of your most recent experience,
526
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,554
that literally
brought you to your knees.
527
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:16,520
THOMAS:
Yeah, it was probably,
528
00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:19,444
well, probably
the scariest moment,
529
00:23:19,523 --> 00:23:20,983
you know, personally-- I know
530
00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:22,528
-it was for you obviously, Tom.
-Definitely.
531
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:26,320
Yeah, so this day
we were drilling.
532
00:23:26,447 --> 00:23:29,237
Dragon had this idea,
maybe we should go check out
533
00:23:29,325 --> 00:23:30,955
Homestead Two,
see if there’s any weird
534
00:23:31,035 --> 00:23:32,745
readings happening there.
535
00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:37,374
We go down to Homestead Two.
536
00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,458
Everything seems normal.
We took instruments.
537
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,630
We’ll see if anything
strange pops up and...
538
00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:45,384
-keep in touch with them.
-Yeah.
539
00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:50,546
This doggone
thing is broadcasting.
540
00:23:50,638 --> 00:23:53,598
This thing shouldn’t
be broadcasting anything.
541
00:23:54,558 --> 00:23:55,598
Hey, Bryant? Tom?
542
00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:56,944
Do you copy?
543
00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:58,479
Yeah, I got you. Go ahead, Erik.
544
00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:00,614
TOM: Erik came
on the walkie and said,
545
00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:02,519
"Listen to this sound."
546
00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,780
We’ve got
an RF spectrum analyzer,
547
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,240
which is a receiver
548
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,450
that seems to be broadcasting,
549
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:10,530
instead of just receiving.
550
00:24:10,658 --> 00:24:13,158
Well, just
have a listen at this.
551
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:14,785
(beeping)
552
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:17,080
TOM: That sound
that was broadcast over
553
00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:18,754
the radio was a set of beeps.
554
00:24:18,832 --> 00:24:22,422
I heard static and,
like, a roaring train.
555
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:27,513
Are you okay?
556
00:24:27,591 --> 00:24:29,091
No.
557
00:24:29,176 --> 00:24:31,426
My eyes went black.
558
00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:32,852
I couldn’t see.
559
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,602
-And...
-Like you went blind?
560
00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:37,932
Uh, yeah, I was
a little bit conscious still
561
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:40,188
and so I dropped to the ground
562
00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:43,270
and my whole left arm was numb.
563
00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:46,687
And so, at this point,
I’m scared.
564
00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:48,277
I’m thinking
I’m having a heart attack.
565
00:24:48,362 --> 00:24:50,662
It was, I could,
I could feel him
566
00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:52,119
physically shaking.
I mean, it was...
567
00:24:52,199 --> 00:24:53,699
He’s in distress.
568
00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:56,084
It was all I could do
to get him to my truck.
569
00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:57,793
You want to go?
570
00:24:57,871 --> 00:24:59,081
Yeah. Let’s go.
571
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:01,286
(exhales)
I can’t feel my hand.
572
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:03,885
You, like, you can’t...
you can’t feel your hand?
573
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:05,501
I can’t feel my hand.
574
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:09,970
BRYANT:
Do you have any chest pains?
575
00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:11,680
TOM:
No, but it’s hard to keep...
576
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,550
keep my breath, it’s...
577
00:25:13,637 --> 00:25:15,507
TOM: And my vision
really didn’t come back
578
00:25:15,597 --> 00:25:17,387
until I was off the ranch.
579
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:20,564
Luckily, Bryant was there,
you know, to help me.
580
00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:23,194
And, uh, what had happened
581
00:25:23,272 --> 00:25:26,652
is my heart, uh,
was skipping beats.
582
00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:29,859
And I had had EKGs before this
583
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:33,155
and I’ve never had
this issue before.
584
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,410
And the doctor explained to me
585
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:38,954
that it, you know, there’s
nothing wrong with my heart,
586
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:42,419
but it was
an electrical problem.
587
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:45,379
-Really?
-And, yeah.
588
00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:48,261
Fortunately, you know,
he’s okay but,
589
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,260
I mean, that’s,
that’s the strange thing is
590
00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,760
it affects people
so differently and people
591
00:25:52,885 --> 00:25:55,605
are tuned to whatever
energy or frequency, but...
592
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,931
what I find, you know,
interesting and also disturbing
593
00:25:59,016 --> 00:26:02,266
is it occurred,
like, literally right when...
594
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:04,812
we were hitting
the base of the mesa where
595
00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:07,898
we were trying to see what in
the world is inside that mesa.
596
00:26:07,983 --> 00:26:09,363
And that’s
when all hell broke loose.
597
00:26:09,443 --> 00:26:12,653
Which leads me
to think about this material
598
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:14,950
that we pulled
out of one hole...
599
00:26:15,032 --> 00:26:18,792
while we were drilling
into the side of the mesa.
600
00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:22,367
Boy, that thing sounds
like it’s hitting something.
601
00:26:22,456 --> 00:26:23,866
Oh, what the heck is...?
602
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,794
TRAVIS:
In an effort
to explore a possible tunnel
603
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:28,747
or cave system beneath the mesa,
604
00:26:28,837 --> 00:26:31,717
we brought in drilling expert
Aaron Blunt,
605
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,719
who attempted to drill
horizontally into the mesa.
606
00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:36,762
That’s when his drill bit
encountered
607
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,215
something hard
and seemingly impenetrable.
608
00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,807
We’re coming up about
11 inches every ten feet.
609
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,983
So, it sounds like
you’re describing kind of a V.
610
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,825
It could even be...
maybe a dome.
611
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,992
TRAVIS:
Not only was this hard object
dome-shaped...
612
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,573
What is that?
613
00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:57,616
...it also appeared to
be 400 feet wide
614
00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,579
-and made out of metal.
-Oh, my.
615
00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:02,451
What did you think it was
when you first saw it?
616
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:04,998
I wondered if it was
like metal flakes or something.
617
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:08,134
That’s exactly
the same impression I got.
618
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:10,340
But the biggest
surprise came when we had
619
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:12,340
a piece of the metal analyzed.
620
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,295
There are material
findings coming out of that
621
00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,184
lateral drilling exercise,
surprising.
622
00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:19,932
Completely unexpected.
623
00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:21,263
I have to show you this.
624
00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:24,484
I want to put them
on the table so...
625
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,600
I’m going to pass around
626
00:27:26,687 --> 00:27:28,767
a few of the samples
of which we have
627
00:27:28,856 --> 00:27:31,106
many, uh, into the hundreds
628
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:32,691
that have been taken
out of that what,
629
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:34,816
five or six-inch diameter hole?
630
00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:38,203
We’re talking about
a six-inch hole into the mesa.
631
00:27:38,282 --> 00:27:41,532
We made it back about 420 feet.
632
00:27:42,536 --> 00:27:45,456
These started coming out
as we were well into
633
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:47,619
the hundreds of feet
into the mesa.
634
00:27:47,708 --> 00:27:49,828
But who knows how much of it
635
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,208
never came back
out of the mountain.
636
00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,547
Erik, uh, reached out, uh,
637
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,053
to the local university here
and had them do
638
00:27:57,134 --> 00:27:59,684
an analysis with a scanning
electron microscope and do...
639
00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:03,521
precise elemental analysis
makeup of this material.
640
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,059
The interesting thing
about the analysis that we got:
641
00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:08,603
tellurium is only on one side
642
00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:11,519
and europium,
which is on the other side.
643
00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:14,687
Now, tellurium
and europium are two
644
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,896
of the most rare materials
on the planet.
645
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:20,950
And it was fused.
646
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:23,994
Can that happen naturally?
647
00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:26,037
If it were
going to be made on Earth,
648
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:29,121
it would have to be
done deep under the crust,
649
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,749
miles deep
in a geological process.
650
00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:34,837
There’s no volcanic
processes happening there
651
00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:37,472
on the ranch
or in the Uinta Basin
652
00:28:37,591 --> 00:28:39,931
that, uh, that we know of.
653
00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:42,262
The only other natural,
654
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:46,016
uh, way to create this
would be an asteroid impact.
655
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:51,228
But what we’re
missing from this asteroid is,
656
00:28:51,313 --> 00:28:54,273
uh, we’re missing nickel,
we’re missing iridium,
657
00:28:54,358 --> 00:28:55,688
we’re missing some other things
658
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,396
that would
be there if it were an asteroid.
659
00:28:58,487 --> 00:28:59,777
This bears a lot of resemblance
660
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:00,783
to things
that were made in a furnace.
661
00:29:00,906 --> 00:29:02,446
As if this is
662
00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:05,452
perhaps an engineered material.
663
00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:07,445
TRAVIS:
You remember
the space shuttle tiles
664
00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:09,787
that protected it
from heat on reentry?
665
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:13,133
This material makeup
is very similar to that ceramic.
666
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:16,920
-Wow.
-So, Governor Herbert,
let me tell you,
667
00:29:17,005 --> 00:29:19,295
we did another,
probably the biggest,
668
00:29:19,383 --> 00:29:21,513
most complicated,
most expensive experiment
669
00:29:21,635 --> 00:29:24,145
that, uh, has ever
been done at the ranch.
670
00:29:33,981 --> 00:29:35,731
We had three laser systems,
671
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,276
and we placed them
in a triangular position
672
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,910
pointed up at the anomaly
in the sky over the ranch.
673
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:43,819
And then we also had
674
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:45,909
a very large rocket system
675
00:29:45,993 --> 00:29:47,833
uh, so that we could
put a payload
676
00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:50,253
into the anomaly
and have it linger
677
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:52,500
as the recovery system
brought it back down
678
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:55,634
with multiple instruments.
Now...
679
00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:58,091
we get ready
to do the launch and...
680
00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:00,171
Brandon, tell them what
happened when we counted down
681
00:30:00,299 --> 00:30:02,549
-and you pushed the button.
-The second that I pushed
682
00:30:02,676 --> 00:30:06,006
the button, it literally
went up and exploded.
683
00:30:07,431 --> 00:30:09,271
Push and hold.
684
00:30:14,187 --> 00:30:16,357
Oh!
685
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,530
How high did it get...
off the ground?
686
00:30:18,608 --> 00:30:19,818
Maybe 30 feet?
687
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:23,031
-So it immediately blew up?
-Yeah.
688
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:24,995
Has this ever happened before?
Any of those rockets?
689
00:30:25,073 --> 00:30:26,993
They’ve never had
one fail like that before.
690
00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:30,615
So, it’s like somebody was
trying to keep us from getting
691
00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:33,374
the instruments into
the place we want to put it.
692
00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:38,883
So thank heavens we were
ready with other rockets.
693
00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:41,054
-Yes.
-To continue the experiment.
694
00:30:41,131 --> 00:30:43,051
Do you have that second launch?
695
00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:46,093
So this is, in fact,
the footage of that launch,
696
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:49,849
as seen by one
of our surveillance cameras.
697
00:30:54,811 --> 00:30:57,361
This takes place
at exactly the place
698
00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,269
where we’ve had
so many unusual things happen.
699
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,399
-Is that the triangle?
-ERIK: That is the triangle.
700
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:03,075
Yes.
701
00:31:03,153 --> 00:31:05,493
Erik was in the command center
702
00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:07,662
and saw something.
703
00:31:07,741 --> 00:31:09,831
ERIK:
Hey, Travis, you copy?
704
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:11,950
TRAVIS:
Yeah, Erik, go ahead.
705
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,409
If Brandon is nearby,
can you bring him in real quick?
706
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,424
TRAVIS:
We’ll be right there.
707
00:31:17,501 --> 00:31:20,171
Travis, you’ve got to see this.
708
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:22,013
-Okay.
-Well, there’s the lasers.
709
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:24,759
-Yeah, I’m doing instant
playback. You see this?
-Oh! Yeah.
710
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:29,098
-Wow.
-What the crap is that?
711
00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:32,931
This is through the lens
of a camera that is tasked
712
00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:34,806
with surveying the skies.
713
00:31:35,936 --> 00:31:38,856
And I’ll draw your attention
to this part of the screen.
714
00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:43,363
Clearly we have an object.
Something luminous moving
715
00:31:43,443 --> 00:31:47,533
towards the apex of that
configuration of lasers being
716
00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:49,744
broadcast upward
from the triangle.
717
00:31:49,825 --> 00:31:53,295
TRAVIS: And it just, I mean,
it just goes away.
718
00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,042
-Yeah.
-Wow.
719
00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:58,582
It’s important
to note that during this day,
720
00:31:58,667 --> 00:32:01,417
the entire airspace
721
00:32:01,503 --> 00:32:04,593
not only above the ranch,
but in the general area
722
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:07,263
within the Uinta Basin
was restricted.
723
00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:09,262
Clearly,
there’s no strobe on this,
724
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,144
but beyond that, the aircraft
transponder data receiver
725
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:15,354
that we have at the ranch
indicated no aircraft
726
00:32:15,475 --> 00:32:17,435
at that location.
727
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,229
It’s unexplained.
What is the theory
728
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:22,573
of what the explanation
could be?
729
00:32:22,649 --> 00:32:24,479
Well, what if
some of the stories
730
00:32:24,609 --> 00:32:28,279
that we keep hearing about, uh,
from the ancient Native tribes,
731
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:30,743
in petroglyphs that--
from all different kinds of
732
00:32:30,824 --> 00:32:32,664
folks that have been
to the ranch, that there’s
733
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,792
a portal access on the ranch.
734
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:39,251
What if that’s true?
It could be what we just saw!
735
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,957
This may be
a particular point of interest
736
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:47,465
for a wormhole or a stargate,
some type
737
00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:49,469
of interstellar interaction?
738
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:52,971
One of the stories that’s
been told from the Sherman
739
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:55,684
and Bigelow era that caught
the attention of the DIA--
740
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,267
the Defense
Intelligence Agency--
741
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:59,190
was about a hole in the sky.
742
00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:00,979
Call it a portal.
743
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:04,855
The rancher would
see these things open up,
744
00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:07,111
it’s dusk here,
it’s afternoon over there.
745
00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:08,654
It’s like you’re looking in
746
00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:10,947
through a hole in the sky
to another place.
747
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:14,621
And he would report
things coming in and out.
748
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:18,201
Uh, craft coming in and out from
that reality to this reality.
749
00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,626
Well, you just referenced
an anecdotal experience,
750
00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:25,379
one from a credible scientist,
751
00:33:25,462 --> 00:33:28,212
but no visual evidence
to accompany that.
752
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,300
Here we have
potential visual evidence
753
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,724
of some type
of interstellar activity
754
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:38,216
focused on the ranch,
some type of interaction
755
00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:41,388
that is not explained
by any conventional means.
756
00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:42,728
Never seen it before.
757
00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:45,572
I-I’ve never seen
anything like it before.
758
00:33:47,317 --> 00:33:49,527
And, Brandon, this next one,
you have yet to see
759
00:33:49,611 --> 00:33:51,321
because it just happened to us.
760
00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:54,744
-Really?
-Yeah, it is so bizarre.
761
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,616
I think it would be a good idea
to get everyone’s eyes on this.
762
00:33:57,744 --> 00:33:59,914
-Absolutely.
-Please, let’s do.
763
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:02,709
ERIK: This is
a three-dimensional model
764
00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:05,921
of Pete Kelsey’s recent
survey work.
765
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:09,342
Pete scanned the entire mesa,
and look at this structure.
766
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,756
HERBERT:
Wow. Incredible.
767
00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:16,756
Wow!
768
00:34:18,098 --> 00:34:20,928
This looks like
a solid structure in the sky.
769
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:22,729
ERIK:
Yes.
770
00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:25,441
This object, whatever it is,
771
00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:27,774
uh, it’s really fascinating.
772
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:30,779
What are we looking at?
We don’t know at this point.
773
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:33,780
Well, we need
to talk about the reality
774
00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:36,913
of what we’re dealing with
in this investigation.
775
00:34:36,992 --> 00:34:40,752
Based on all
of these combined events,
776
00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:42,959
how do we move forward?
777
00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:52,966
Based on all of
these combined events,
778
00:34:53,049 --> 00:34:57,299
all of this data, if we
are truly being led by the data,
779
00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:02,387
and what we have documented,
how do we move forward?
780
00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:07,305
What are our next steps as
a team here at Skinwalker Ranch?
781
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:11,439
TRAVIS: Well, what we can say is
perhaps one of the most
782
00:35:11,526 --> 00:35:14,896
amazing treasures
might be under that mesa,
783
00:35:14,988 --> 00:35:17,408
but it might also be
amazingly fragile.
784
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:21,240
And we don’t want to
destroy whatever it is,
785
00:35:21,328 --> 00:35:24,118
by willy-nilly
going in and-and...
786
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:27,075
-and stomping our feet around.
-ERIK: Yeah, and exactly
787
00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:29,837
as Travis has explained,
we should probably take
788
00:35:29,919 --> 00:35:32,839
a forensic approach
to look at this as a biopsy.
789
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:35,934
Uh, you know,
we conduct the research, uh...
790
00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:38,429
very carefully,
because we don’t want to destroy
791
00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:41,511
the very thing we are
attempting to get eyes on.
792
00:35:41,598 --> 00:35:43,978
So obviously we can’t come in
793
00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:46,599
recklessly and blast the side
794
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,186
-of the mesa.
-TRAVIS: Absolutely.
-Yeah.
795
00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:49,861
Whatever we do must be
796
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,861
surgical,
well-planned and precise.
797
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,612
Is there any way
798
00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:57,655
to discover
what’s inside the mesa,
799
00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:59,619
short of excavation?
800
00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:01,829
Is there some kind of sonar,
801
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:04,000
microimaging that we can,
802
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,119
you can actually X-ray
the mountain?
803
00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:08,786
We have used, uh,
ground-penetrating radar
804
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,495
to the best
of our ability right now.
805
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:15,296
Uh, we are pursuing some, uh,
space capabilities that
806
00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:18,132
are just now,
new technologies coming online.
807
00:36:18,218 --> 00:36:20,048
Maybe in the next year or so.
808
00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:23,556
You know, there’s another thing
that we need to follow up on.
809
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680
We have discovered
there is some sort of anomaly
810
00:36:26,768 --> 00:36:29,058
over the ranch
in a certain location
811
00:36:29,145 --> 00:36:31,555
that is between 3,000
and 5,000 feet
812
00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:34,318
in altitude above the triangle.
813
00:36:34,401 --> 00:36:36,491
If this is a...
atmospheric anomaly
814
00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:38,529
or a gravitational anomaly,
815
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:41,873
-I think we just got to
follow up on this data.
-Absolutely.
816
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:45,160
BRANDON: I think everyone would
agree that we move forward
817
00:36:45,245 --> 00:36:48,465
having a multidisciplinary,
diverse approach
818
00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:51,881
to really tackling this problem
set and taking the data
819
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,960
that drives us
in the right direction
820
00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:59,089
to uncover the secret
of what lies on this ranch,
821
00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,545
both above and below.
822
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:04,386
GEORGE: Well, I mean,
here’s the significance for me.
823
00:37:04,472 --> 00:37:06,602
You guys set up an experiment
824
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:09,145
where you have
witnesses there gathered
825
00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:10,899
to conduct this experiment
826
00:37:10,979 --> 00:37:12,559
and hopefully
generate a response.
827
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:14,107
You don’t know
what the response is gonna be.
828
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,940
You don’t know
if there will be a response.
829
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,857
And you get a response
and you document it.
830
00:37:17,944 --> 00:37:22,454
It appears
we are triggering contact...
831
00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:26,081
...in some way,
shape or form and...
832
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,791
it is manifesting itself
833
00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,833
above the ranch
in a very profound way.
834
00:37:31,958 --> 00:37:34,878
We’re dealing with forces.
835
00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:37,961
We’re dealing with phenomena
836
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,929
that redefines not only
837
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:44,429
our vision of reality but
potentially even history itself.
838
00:37:46,055 --> 00:37:48,425
Is Skinwalker Ranch really
839
00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:51,636
at the center
of a lot of interesting things
840
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,980
-that are now
being brought forward?
-HERBERT: Yes, but...
841
00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:56,815
it doesn’t seem to be
restricted just to Utah.
842
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:58,990
-This is country-wide,
worldwide?
-BRANDON: Yeah.
843
00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:01,448
GEORGE:
Well, for the last four years,
844
00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:03,659
the whole world
has been on a UFO binge.
845
00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:06,280
We’ve had major media coverage
taking it seriously
846
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,787
for the first time maybe ever.
847
00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,829
Congress has dug in.
848
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,084
They want to fund
a permanent investigation.
849
00:38:12,165 --> 00:38:13,965
A program that
would look into these things.
850
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,002
And all of this stuff
is traced directly
851
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,337
back to Skinwalker Ranch.
852
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,170
If not for a DIA scientist
853
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:21,876
visiting the property back
854
00:38:22,008 --> 00:38:24,338
in 2007
and having an experience,
855
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:26,509
there would not have been
an AAWSAP program,
856
00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:28,808
there would not
have been an AATIP program,
857
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:30,930
and the whole world would not
be on this UFO binge
858
00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:33,137
that it’s on right now. We don’t
know where it’s gonna lead,
859
00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:35,228
but at least we’ve dragged it
out of the dark ages
860
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:37,945
and made this topic
a little more respectable
861
00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,194
for Congress, for media,
for scientists to investigate.
862
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,277
It all stems back to the ranch.
863
00:38:43,363 --> 00:38:45,613
Well, Brandon, let me just say,
you know, I was here
864
00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:48,618
at the beginning
12 weeks ago, and now I’m...
865
00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:49,991
I’ve returned
and you’re reporting.
866
00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:51,998
And all I can say is
867
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,040
the phenomena
is just overwhelming.
868
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,671
I’m very excited
about the next chapter.
869
00:38:56,751 --> 00:38:59,131
Uh, I think you’ve got momentum,
870
00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:01,012
uh, I again like Dr. Taylor
871
00:39:01,089 --> 00:39:03,379
talking about this should be
a scalpeled approach.
872
00:39:03,466 --> 00:39:05,676
Erik, you’ve mentioned how
we’ve got to be careful
873
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,890
about what we’re doing here
so we don’t damage
874
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:11,222
-the information we’ll find.
-GEORGE: Very much so.
875
00:39:11,307 --> 00:39:14,517
You guys have made breakthroughs
on so many different, uh, bases,
876
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:16,732
and, uh, I can’t wait
to see what comes next.
877
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,443
BRANDON:
Well, thank you, Governor,
for your time and attention.
878
00:39:19,566 --> 00:39:22,566
-And thank you, George,
for joining us.
-Glad to be here.
879
00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:26,572
I want to thank everyone at
this table for your sacrifice,
880
00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:28,778
for your professionalism,
881
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:32,328
for your talents,
your expertise.
882
00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:36,752
We are, uh, opening new doors,
new paths to explore.
883
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,635
I look forward
to the path ahead.
884
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:41,712
And, uh, we’ll be in touch
885
00:39:41,796 --> 00:39:43,586
with you regarding next steps.
886
00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:45,053
-Thank you.
-KANDUS: All right.
887
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:47,263
-Thanks, Brandon.
-Thank you.
888
00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:49,263
Thank you, Governor.
889
00:39:49,345 --> 00:39:50,925
-George. Yeah, yeah.
-Good to meet you.
890
00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,479
ERIK:
We’ve learned a lot of things
through our work this year.
891
00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,193
Piece by piece,
892
00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:01,021
we are continuing to
assemble this puzzle,
893
00:40:01,107 --> 00:40:04,937
showing us that not only
is the ranch phenomenology real,
894
00:40:05,028 --> 00:40:10,068
but we seem to be
interactively engaging it.
895
00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:13,038
THOMAS:
I’m way past
the point of no return.
896
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,789
I’ve had too many
things happen to me
897
00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:16,961
on the ranch not to continue.
898
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,920
It seems like
the stakes have risen,
899
00:40:20,001 --> 00:40:23,421
so at this point
we have to push forward.
900
00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,804
We have to get answers.
901
00:40:27,008 --> 00:40:29,428
GEORGE: I’ve seen things today
that I never thought I would see
902
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:32,890
and haven’t seen before,
but I’d like to think
903
00:40:32,972 --> 00:40:35,062
that we can figure it out,
I hope we can.
904
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,811
Here’s the thing for sure:
905
00:40:36,893 --> 00:40:39,063
you aren’t going to figure it
out if you don’t try.
906
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:42,653
TRAVIS: As we wrap up
this year’s investigation
907
00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:44,282
at Skinwalker Ranch,
908
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:46,319
we all feel like we’re getting
909
00:40:46,402 --> 00:40:48,992
much closer to finding some
real answers about this place.
910
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:51,952
I mean,
when I first came to the ranch,
911
00:40:52,033 --> 00:40:53,703
I had never even seen a UAP.
912
00:40:53,826 --> 00:40:56,036
We got something, hold on.
913
00:40:56,162 --> 00:40:57,202
-Look, look, look.
-What is that?
914
00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:58,580
Holy (bleep)!
915
00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:00,255
But we’ve
witnessed and documented
916
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:01,963
phenomena up in the sky...
917
00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:03,673
What the hell is that
in the sky?
918
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,385
CHUCK:
That thing is big and spherical!
919
00:41:05,505 --> 00:41:07,975
...that has changed
my entire outlook
920
00:41:08,049 --> 00:41:09,429
on what I thought was possible.
921
00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:11,179
And now...
922
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:13,300
after encountering
a dome-shaped metal object
923
00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:14,968
deep inside the mesa,
924
00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:17,426
who knows what
it could ultimately reveal.
925
00:41:17,517 --> 00:41:18,847
Oh, my.
926
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,637
TRAVIS:
We owe it to ourselves
927
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:24,518
and the entire world to figure
out the truth behind this ranch.
928
00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:28,857
BRANDON: It takes courage
to confront these topics.
929
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:33,122
I believe
as we brave that territory,
930
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:36,199
as we have
the courage to delve deeper,
931
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:40,865
both literally and figuratively
into Skinwalker Ranch,
932
00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:43,377
we’re going to find
that not only
933
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,381
will we come to
an understanding
934
00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:49,011
of the dark forces
that we’re interacting with,
935
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:53,300
but also the nature
of our world, and our reality.
936
00:41:53,386 --> 00:41:56,176
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