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Step away from your cages. 3 00:00:30,238 --> 00:00:34,617 [man 1] He was the most prolific bank robber in the Pacific Northwest. 4 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:36,798 [woman 1] He keeps changing his disguises. 5 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:41,124 {\an8}He seems like he's in a movie, robbing bank after bank. 6 00:00:41,207 --> 00:00:42,417 {\an8}[man 2] Three or four banks, 7 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:44,711 one right after the other in the same evening. 8 00:00:44,794 --> 00:00:48,798 [woman 2] In the FBI, we like to give nicknames to bank robbers. 9 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:50,467 His moniker was "Hollywood." 10 00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:52,093 {\an8}Pretty fitting, 11 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:55,305 {\an8}especially when we learned that he really was inspired 12 00:00:55,388 --> 00:00:56,723 by Bodhi in Point Break. 13 00:00:56,806 --> 00:00:59,809 Why be a servant to the law when you can be its master? 14 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:03,730 {\an8}You wanna open the vault, or do you want me to do it? 15 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:06,357 {\an8}[woman 2] He'd been successful for four years. 16 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:08,443 {\an8}That's why he became our number one priority. 17 00:01:08,526 --> 00:01:10,111 {\an8}He was not a stupid bank robber. 18 00:01:10,612 --> 00:01:13,198 [man 3] Hollywood was probably one of the most dangerous people 19 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:14,365 that I went up against, 20 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,076 because he was a true professional. 21 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:18,745 {\an8}[man 2] He wanted to decimate the city of Seattle, 22 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:21,581 {\an8}and it was not only doable, it was winnable. 23 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:24,793 They knew that this man got millions over the years. 24 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:27,128 They knew that he humiliated them. 25 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:30,590 {\an8}[man 1] When he walked into the Lake City branch to rob us, 26 00:01:30,673 --> 00:01:33,218 {\an8}he walked right past his wanted poster. 27 00:01:33,301 --> 00:01:36,513 {\an8}Don't panic. This is a robbery. Step away from your counter. 28 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:39,432 [reporter 1] What happened here reads straight from a movie script. 29 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:41,202 [reporter 2] He wears heavy makeup, a wig... 30 00:01:41,226 --> 00:01:43,686 [reporter 3] His co-star is this 9 mm. handgun. 31 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:46,040 {\an8}[reporter 4] The most prolific bank robber in the country. 32 00:01:46,064 --> 00:01:49,025 {\an8}He's number one on the FBI's Most Wanted List. 33 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:52,195 [man 4] They could not figure out who this guy was, 34 00:01:52,278 --> 00:01:54,447 and where he was gonna hit next. 35 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:56,533 [man 5] Was this guy some kind of a ghost? 36 00:01:57,158 --> 00:01:59,202 How does he just slip away like that? 37 00:01:59,285 --> 00:02:01,287 [rock music intensifies] 38 00:02:18,847 --> 00:02:19,931 [music fades] 39 00:02:24,477 --> 00:02:26,479 [suspenseful music playing] 40 00:02:30,608 --> 00:02:34,237 {\an8}Hollywood was a unique case for us in Seattle. 41 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:36,531 We knew from evidence 42 00:02:36,614 --> 00:02:39,409 that he was familiar with security practices. 43 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:43,788 He knew how long he had before he had to get out of there. 44 00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:45,832 He was a smart bank robber. 45 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:49,210 He became our number one priority 46 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:51,921 after I became the supervisor of our task force. 47 00:02:53,464 --> 00:02:54,716 [intriguing music playing] 48 00:02:54,799 --> 00:02:59,762 Shawn Johnson was the FBI agent that was the lead on the case. 49 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:03,016 He was like an encyclopedia on Hollywood. 50 00:03:03,516 --> 00:03:06,352 He's number one as far as, uh, the amount of money 51 00:03:06,436 --> 00:03:08,104 that any bank robber has taken. 52 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:13,318 Hollywood was a professional bank robber. He worked at it. He perfected his craft. 53 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:16,446 I think he was enjoying what he did. 54 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:18,729 I think money was part of it, but at that point in time, 55 00:03:18,781 --> 00:03:21,576 it was just the, uh, adrenaline rush, the challenge. 56 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:28,541 [Ellen] When I assigned Mike to head up the Seattle Police response to it, 57 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:31,961 I knew that it would be an electric relationship. 58 00:03:32,545 --> 00:03:37,008 [man 3] Shawn and I were night and day, oil and water, two different styles. 59 00:03:37,717 --> 00:03:40,553 {\an8}My partner at the time summed it up. 60 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:44,349 {\an8}"Shawn Johnson was the fire, and Mike Magan was the can of gasoline." 61 00:03:45,016 --> 00:03:47,435 I heard one description that I'm not sure if I agree with, 62 00:03:47,518 --> 00:03:49,646 but I was the brains and he was the brawn. 63 00:03:49,729 --> 00:03:51,105 Don't agree with that 100%, 64 00:03:51,189 --> 00:03:53,107 but the brain part I agree with for myself. 65 00:03:54,692 --> 00:03:58,446 [Mike] Ellen Glasser was a very talented supervisor 66 00:03:58,529 --> 00:04:01,741 who believed in the "KISS" method: Keep It Simple, Stupid. 67 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:05,453 [Ellen] As one of the first women agents in the FBI, 68 00:04:05,536 --> 00:04:07,413 to be able to be supervising 69 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:10,625 this violent crime squad and the task force 70 00:04:10,708 --> 00:04:12,293 was such an awesome thing for me. 71 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:17,507 Not only was I in this badass job, 72 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:20,677 I also was blessed to have four young children, 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,347 and so sometimes I feel like I was two different people. 74 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:27,141 A lot of the guys called me Agent Mom. 75 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:32,605 [intriguing music playing] 76 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:40,029 [man 4] In the '90s, Seattle was a city in major transition. 77 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:42,073 [intriguing music continues] 78 00:04:44,033 --> 00:04:48,329 You went from a two company town, Weyerhaeuser and Boeing, 79 00:04:48,413 --> 00:04:49,872 {\an8}to then you add Microsoft, 80 00:04:49,956 --> 00:04:52,542 {\an8}and then all the companies that came around Microsoft. 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,586 Bezos from Amazon. 82 00:04:56,462 --> 00:04:59,007 Starbucks was growing like gangbusters. 83 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:03,386 There was a flood of money that came into Seattle. 84 00:05:04,429 --> 00:05:07,015 It was amazing how many banks were popping up. 85 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:09,475 I didn't put two and two together at the time 86 00:05:09,559 --> 00:05:13,354 that all the cash coming in from the tech boom was fueling this, 87 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:15,690 but you could find a bank in the grocery store. 88 00:05:15,773 --> 00:05:17,775 You could find a bank just about every corner. 89 00:05:18,276 --> 00:05:22,363 [reporter] In Washington state, the number of bank robberies is exploding. 90 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,741 I told my wife, "Don't go into a bank in Seattle." 91 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:26,284 Chances are it'll get robbed." 92 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:29,037 [reporter 1] Three men ran into the US Branch Bank in Woodinville 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,996 with a shotgun... 94 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:31,479 [reporter 2] A man enters the bank, 95 00:05:31,539 --> 00:05:33,958 and usually passes a note to the teller demanding money. 96 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:35,960 [David] There were a lot of bank robberies. 97 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:38,963 I don't know that we did one every night, but we did a lot of them. 98 00:05:39,047 --> 00:05:41,507 {\an8}Let's go to Deborah Horne, who's at the scene with the latest. 99 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:43,593 {\an8}That's right, David. Just a very few moments ago... 100 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:45,470 {\an8}[woman 1] Seattle was an exciting place. 101 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:48,222 We were sort of coming into our own as a city, 102 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:50,725 certainly in terms of being well-known around the country. 103 00:05:50,808 --> 00:05:53,770 We had Nirvana, so you have grunge. 104 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:56,397 [David] Grunge, to me, to a certain extent, 105 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,859 was that frustration that a lot of people were feeling 106 00:05:59,942 --> 00:06:03,613 about changes that were coming to their communities. 107 00:06:03,696 --> 00:06:06,449 [man 6] The whole grunge thing, it was so anti-corporate 108 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:09,827 and anti-brands and big-name and fame was all... [scoffs] 109 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:12,121 Nobody cared. Nobody wanted any of that shit. 110 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,957 People were literally anti-establishment for all the right reasons. 111 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:17,919 They hated all the oppression, they hated the colonialism, 112 00:06:18,002 --> 00:06:20,797 they hated the attack on human rights and the environment. 113 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,040 And ripping off banks, if they're getting away with it? 114 00:06:23,091 --> 00:06:24,092 People love that. 115 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:27,428 [reporter] He's robbed 14 banks in Seattle since, uh, June of 1992. 116 00:06:27,512 --> 00:06:29,430 Wow! He's pretty clever. [chuckles] 117 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:31,349 Darn clever. 118 00:06:31,432 --> 00:06:33,184 It's the ultimate F-you to the man. 119 00:06:34,018 --> 00:06:36,372 - [woman] It's Mr. Hollywood. - [reporter] Hollywood, right. 120 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:39,148 We knew that there was a guy with a bunch of disguises 121 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:41,692 who was robbing banks, not hurting anybody. 122 00:06:41,776 --> 00:06:43,027 No shots were fired. 123 00:06:43,111 --> 00:06:44,821 Sounds very bold. [chuckles] 124 00:06:45,321 --> 00:06:50,993 There may have been some rooting for him, and people talk about Robin Hood... 125 00:06:52,412 --> 00:06:55,581 {\an8}[Jimmy] The mystique of the bank robber goes back to the Robin Hood thing. 126 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,084 {\an8}You steal from the rich and give to the poor. 127 00:06:58,167 --> 00:07:00,002 Duh. How noble is that? 128 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:04,048 [Ellen] He was kind of legendary in terms of bank robbers. 129 00:07:05,049 --> 00:07:09,178 [Mike] But in terms of who Hollywood was, we couldn't have been more wrong. 130 00:07:10,638 --> 00:07:12,640 [birds chirping] 131 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:18,228 Hey, Bubba! 132 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:23,067 [man 7] Wow, a man with his shirt off. 133 00:07:24,318 --> 00:07:25,318 Come on back! 134 00:07:28,072 --> 00:07:29,352 [man 7] Let's go, boys. Come on. 135 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:34,287 - You still filming? - [man 7] We're filming this whole trip. 136 00:07:35,746 --> 00:07:37,248 You gotta hold the camera steady. 137 00:07:37,331 --> 00:07:39,375 [man 7] That's a little easier said than done, man. 138 00:07:40,501 --> 00:07:43,754 As you can see, we're deep in the forest. 139 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,092 And there's not a whole lot of light. 140 00:07:53,347 --> 00:07:55,349 [pensive music playing] 141 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:01,564 - Okay, Tarzan. What do you want to do? - Go up top. 142 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:03,274 - [man 7] Go up top? - Yeah. 143 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,527 [man 7] We're going into Scurlock's domain. 144 00:08:07,361 --> 00:08:08,946 What's the elevation here, mate? 145 00:08:09,447 --> 00:08:11,908 - [Scurlock] 75 feet. - [man 7] 75 feet above what? 146 00:08:11,991 --> 00:08:13,391 [Scurlock] The floor of the cedars. 147 00:08:14,410 --> 00:08:15,410 Down there. 148 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,360 [man 7] Tell us the story, mate. 149 00:08:19,415 --> 00:08:21,459 How long did it take you? What's the deal here? 150 00:08:21,542 --> 00:08:23,628 Took me about two weeks to build this whole thing. 151 00:08:23,711 --> 00:08:26,506 - [man 7] Two weeks to build this. - Six stories. 152 00:08:27,965 --> 00:08:29,467 Fifty-eight tons of wood. 153 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:32,053 Did a little work. Kind of ate breakfast before I did it. 154 00:08:32,553 --> 00:08:36,182 [man 7 laughs] Okay. 155 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:38,267 Okay, no, it really took maybe... I don't know. 156 00:08:40,102 --> 00:08:42,355 - Three or four months? - [man 7] Three or four months. 157 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:44,690 [tranquil music playing] 158 00:08:47,318 --> 00:08:50,279 [woman 3] The Treehouse was a really amazing, amazing place. 159 00:08:51,113 --> 00:08:54,992 A place you could go to get out of the norm of society. 160 00:08:57,703 --> 00:09:01,165 [woman 4] The first time I went to the Treehouse, Scott answered the door. 161 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:04,335 He was stripped naked except his tool belt. 162 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:08,339 I'd never had anybody answer the door quite like that, 163 00:09:08,422 --> 00:09:11,467 but I pretended that it was an everyday occurrence. 164 00:09:12,677 --> 00:09:16,013 You'd see furniture, like you would in a normal house, 165 00:09:16,514 --> 00:09:22,061 and you'd walk across the deck, and here was a toilet, here was a shower. 166 00:09:22,687 --> 00:09:24,105 It was like a real bathroom, 167 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:26,774 except you had a wonderful outdoor experience. 168 00:09:28,484 --> 00:09:32,989 [Elizabeth] It was built around seven trees and it was really well-made. 169 00:09:33,072 --> 00:09:35,866 It was like cedar boards and picture windows. 170 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:37,910 It was an extravagant tree house. 171 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:40,037 There was a huge oven range, 172 00:09:40,621 --> 00:09:43,457 and we carried this oven range up the stairs, 173 00:09:43,541 --> 00:09:45,418 70 feet to the first floor. 174 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:48,921 [man 2] My brother was good friends with Scott, 175 00:09:49,005 --> 00:09:51,549 {\an8}and he said he'd hire me to come out and build his house. 176 00:09:51,632 --> 00:09:53,301 {\an8}And I said, "Yeah, why not?" 177 00:09:53,968 --> 00:09:56,762 We did some of the most insane construction. 178 00:09:56,846 --> 00:09:58,973 We would be hanging from ropes from our ankles 179 00:09:59,056 --> 00:10:01,726 to be able to nail it and bolt it in place. And... 180 00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:03,936 It was insanely dangerous. 181 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:06,188 All of it was dangerous, but we didn't care. 182 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:08,983 {\an8}[gentle music playing] 183 00:10:10,234 --> 00:10:13,821 {\an8}The Treehouse was Scott's inner personality that came to life. 184 00:10:14,488 --> 00:10:17,658 {\an8}He was safe. It was his harbor. It was his anchor. 185 00:10:18,242 --> 00:10:19,702 {\an8}He was free from it all. 186 00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:24,957 {\an8}[Scott] I'm sitting at my desk, 40 feet in the trees. 187 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:30,755 The deck extends off the rim like a ballerina's tutu in full twirl. 188 00:10:31,964 --> 00:10:34,592 It's wide enough in places to bake in the sun's rays, 189 00:10:35,134 --> 00:10:38,304 and maybe catch a wink of sleep if you're not scared of rolling off. 190 00:10:39,013 --> 00:10:40,013 [man 7] What's going on? 191 00:10:40,056 --> 00:10:43,684 [Scott] I like just sitting on the edge, gazing across the trees at Mount Rainier. 192 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:44,602 [man 7] Talk to us. 193 00:10:44,685 --> 00:10:46,854 [Scott] I get a feeling of subtle exhilaration. 194 00:10:48,606 --> 00:10:50,149 I want a lot out of this life. 195 00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:53,027 I think it will be a long search 196 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:55,321 before I find the place where God wants me. 197 00:10:56,405 --> 00:10:59,533 {\an8}My mind is like an undisciplined child that has gone wild. 198 00:11:00,701 --> 00:11:02,078 {\an8}I'll just have to catch it. 199 00:11:07,458 --> 00:11:11,629 {\an8}Everybody loved Scott. Everybody loved the Treehouse. 200 00:11:11,712 --> 00:11:13,089 The two were connected. 201 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:17,301 We clicked right away when we first met in school 202 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:20,596 and we just both had a lot of energy, wild and free. 203 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,139 We'd like to drink beer. 204 00:11:23,557 --> 00:11:25,351 Mark Biggins is an interesting character. 205 00:11:25,434 --> 00:11:28,229 He and Scott went to Evergreen College together. 206 00:11:29,897 --> 00:11:34,151 [Elizabeth] People that came to Evergreen were in some ways misfits. 207 00:11:34,235 --> 00:11:35,361 Me included. 208 00:11:35,444 --> 00:11:37,196 People are pretty progressive. 209 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:42,743 It wasn't like people taking crazy drugs and drinking and being crazy in that way. 210 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:43,744 It was very earthy. 211 00:11:43,828 --> 00:11:47,998 Playing drums and taking mushrooms and sitting around fires. 212 00:11:48,082 --> 00:11:50,710 It was also a very tight community. 213 00:11:51,794 --> 00:11:53,546 [Mark] Fate just threw us together. 214 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:56,632 Scott was this wild and free guy. 215 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:59,427 Even more so than the other Evergreen students 216 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:01,679 who were considered wild and free. 217 00:12:01,762 --> 00:12:06,267 Mark is just a really tender, gentle soul, you know? 218 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:10,271 He played guitar and wrote poetry. 219 00:12:11,063 --> 00:12:13,983 But he was having a really hard time. He was struggling. 220 00:12:14,483 --> 00:12:16,944 So I think Scotty really helped him out. 221 00:12:17,027 --> 00:12:20,823 [Mark] I called him on the phone, and I said, "Man, my marriage is over." 222 00:12:20,906 --> 00:12:23,159 "I don't know what I'm gonna do, where I'm gonna go." 223 00:12:23,242 --> 00:12:26,704 And he says, "Well, get on up here! Move in with me." 224 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:30,166 [Steve] Mark Biggins was a big, gruff man. 225 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:34,128 He smoked Chesterfield straights. He probably did a pack or two packs a day. 226 00:12:34,211 --> 00:12:37,047 He would knock bourbons down like it was no big deal. 227 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:39,133 That was the bond between him and Scott. 228 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,469 Biggins could drink Scott to hell. 229 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:52,438 [Mark] I lived at the Treehouse for many years. So did my daughter. 230 00:12:53,022 --> 00:12:56,108 And perfect strangers would come knocking on the door 231 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:58,194 {\an8}and they'd say, uh, 232 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:02,656 {\an8}"Oh, we heard there's this really cool tree house on this property." 233 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:05,493 {\an8}Or "Can we go see it?" And we'd have to turn them away. 234 00:13:05,576 --> 00:13:09,538 I mean, it got so bad we actually built a gate across the driveway. 235 00:13:11,207 --> 00:13:14,001 And the Treehouse was not built by Scott alone, 236 00:13:14,835 --> 00:13:17,004 even though it's been quoted in many places, 237 00:13:17,713 --> 00:13:21,217 but, uh, dozens of people worked on that place. 238 00:13:23,385 --> 00:13:25,846 [woman 5] My brother Scott was never gonna be controlled 239 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,181 and he wanted to be free. 240 00:13:27,723 --> 00:13:31,477 He was an adrenaline junkie. He loved doing daring things. 241 00:13:32,186 --> 00:13:35,064 We're sitting at 60 feet up in the air at six stories and 242 00:13:35,773 --> 00:13:37,608 this is the first time I've ever done this. 243 00:13:37,691 --> 00:13:38,734 [laughter] 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,696 [Mark] So he's gonna do approximately a 100-foot climb upside down. 245 00:13:43,572 --> 00:13:46,283 Anytime go, Rambo, Tarzan. 246 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:47,660 [Scott] Woo! 247 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:54,333 - Whoa! - [Mark] Oh! [laughs] 248 00:13:54,416 --> 00:13:57,378 He just kept wanting to go higher and higher and higher 249 00:13:57,461 --> 00:13:59,797 and he needed more and more and more. 250 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,466 [Mark] Right now, if he slipped he's gonna fall 251 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:05,511 60 feet to the ground. 252 00:14:05,594 --> 00:14:06,637 [Scott] This is hard! 253 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,889 [Mark] I told you. This is a death act, my friend. 254 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:10,558 [Suzanne] He was, uh, an adventurer. 255 00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:15,938 He loved the excitement of life, and wanted new things and new experiences. 256 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:19,984 But he made certain pivotal choices 257 00:14:20,067 --> 00:14:23,487 that led him into directions he couldn't turn around and back out of. 258 00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:27,658 [intriguing music playing] 259 00:14:35,916 --> 00:14:38,377 [Scott] In my studies, I've gotten on the wrong track, 260 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:41,046 delving into areas not good for my spiritual growth. 261 00:14:44,008 --> 00:14:46,176 A voice speaks loud and clear. 262 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:48,220 "Remember what you are here for." 263 00:14:49,471 --> 00:14:52,182 I understand, but do not change course. 264 00:14:53,517 --> 00:14:57,187 He was always in pursuit of something of his own world. 265 00:15:02,192 --> 00:15:03,444 [Mark] When I first met him, 266 00:15:03,527 --> 00:15:06,363 he was aspiring to get a degree in medicine, 267 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:11,452 but that fell by the wayside once he worked in the chemistry lab 268 00:15:11,535 --> 00:15:14,079 and he saw an opportunity to make a lot of money. 269 00:15:21,712 --> 00:15:25,633 Scott was the first person in my life I had ever known to produce crystal meth. 270 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:27,843 He would, at nighttime, 271 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:30,930 go up through the ceilings and crawl into the laboratory. 272 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:35,351 Scotty's professors discovered him. They kicked him off the campus. 273 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:38,812 Said, "Don't you ever, ever, ever, ever show your face here again." 274 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:42,524 He was smart enough to have been a doctor. 275 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:46,862 He was one course short of graduating in chemistry and biology. 276 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:48,364 He would have been pre-med. 277 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:49,782 But he didn't wanna be. 278 00:15:49,865 --> 00:15:52,201 That was not who he was and he knew that. 279 00:15:53,035 --> 00:15:55,537 And then he just continued right on down that road. 280 00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:01,168 [Steve] This grew and grew and grew and he became so prolific, 281 00:16:01,251 --> 00:16:04,421 and his product was so absolutely pure. 282 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:06,924 If you were ever to try his stuff, 283 00:16:07,007 --> 00:16:10,594 I'm telling you, it was something unbelievable. 284 00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:17,393 He did have a reputation for producing some of the finest substance, uh, around. 285 00:16:17,476 --> 00:16:21,105 I never heard anybody say... say that somebody else's meth was better. 286 00:16:23,899 --> 00:16:28,529 Scott's use of crystal meth was very moderate and controlled. 287 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:33,492 He just enjoyed it and it inspired him for creativity. 288 00:16:34,743 --> 00:16:37,997 [Steve] As time went on, he bought a piece of property with a barn on it. 289 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,416 And so I went out there to renovate the barn. 290 00:16:40,916 --> 00:16:44,003 In the loft of the barn, he had his whole laboratory set up. 291 00:16:45,921 --> 00:16:49,258 Captain Pat was the front man. He was the finance man. 292 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:51,593 The only times they met were in the forest, 293 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,013 transferring product and money. 294 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:56,890 When Scott would bring 180 lb. to Captain Pat, 295 00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:58,726 he would give him $2 million. 296 00:16:59,226 --> 00:17:03,063 [Mark] Pat was the one who introduced Scott to the meth world. 297 00:17:03,147 --> 00:17:05,566 The Captain, that was Pat's nickname. 298 00:17:05,649 --> 00:17:09,403 He'd take it down to Barstow and sell it to the Hells Angels. 299 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:11,905 And then Scott would come back to the Treehouse 300 00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:14,283 with these boxes full of $20 bills. 301 00:17:14,366 --> 00:17:18,328 Scott and I would sit and count it out. We'd be up all night counting money. 302 00:17:18,412 --> 00:17:20,956 But this got dangerous. I mean, really dangerous. 303 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:25,586 Captain Pat was murdered by some person who was trying to rob him 304 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:27,171 and he was murdered in his sleep. 305 00:17:28,505 --> 00:17:30,382 Scott was devastated when he heard. 306 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:35,679 But that's what people do in that world, and he didn't want to be any part of it. 307 00:17:36,513 --> 00:17:38,015 And that's when he quit. 308 00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:41,727 [Alban] Crystal meth was his income, period. 309 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:46,148 And so when he quit distributing, he needed a new way to make money. 310 00:17:49,818 --> 00:17:51,570 {\an8}[Steve] At that time in the '90s, 311 00:17:51,653 --> 00:17:53,697 {\an8}Point Break was one of the big bank robbery movies. 312 00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:56,533 [Bodhi] Little hand says it's time to rock and roll. 313 00:17:56,617 --> 00:18:00,579 [Steve] Scott would watch films and see different things to get ideas from. 314 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,947 [Jimmy] Scott was down on banks and insurance companies. 315 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,418 It feels like everyone at the time was. 316 00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:07,702 [Bodhi] On the floor, asshole. 317 00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:10,506 The money's insured, so it's not worth dying for. 318 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:17,262 He was always wanting to find a way to beat the system. 319 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:19,723 - He's a real searcher. - What's he searching for? 320 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:22,017 [woman] The ride. The ultimate ride. 321 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:25,229 [Steve] What he liked about Point Break was the individualism of Bodhi 322 00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:26,814 and his fearlessness toward life, 323 00:18:26,897 --> 00:18:30,734 whether it was robbing banks or whether it was surfing on wild waves. 324 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,196 And so when he got out of the drug business, 325 00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:37,449 that's when he said, "I'm gonna become a bank robber." 326 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,493 [Bodhi] Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, 327 00:18:39,535 --> 00:18:40,953 and please don't forget to vote! 328 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:43,747 [tense music playing] 329 00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,962 {\an8}[Mark] The first bank we robbed, 330 00:18:50,045 --> 00:18:52,714 {\an8}we were just talking about it, kicking the idea around. 331 00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:55,926 {\an8}How would we do it? Could you do this and get away with it? 332 00:18:56,426 --> 00:18:58,303 Scott told Mark before the robbery, 333 00:18:58,387 --> 00:19:01,098 "Do not say anything. Just come in and keep people orderly." 334 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:03,350 "Okay, okay." He called him Boss. "Okay, boss." 335 00:19:03,892 --> 00:19:07,146 {\an8}[Mark] A friend of mine dropped us off a block away from the bank, 336 00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:11,191 {\an8}and she was supposed to meet us at this designated spot. 337 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:18,157 {\an8}Our plan was to wait for a bank customer to arrive, 338 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,950 {\an8}then use his car as a getaway car. 339 00:19:22,077 --> 00:19:24,872 {\an8}[Steve] Biggins puts his Ronald Reagan mask down. 340 00:19:26,081 --> 00:19:27,583 Rock and roll! 341 00:19:29,751 --> 00:19:32,921 {\an8}[Mark] Scott went in first. He was gonna announce the robbery 342 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,591 {\an8}and then I would come in and make sure that nobody left. 343 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,761 {\an8}I was so freaked out. 344 00:19:39,845 --> 00:19:42,806 {\an8}Like, "I can't believe this is actually happening 345 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:44,391 {\an8}and I'm actually doing this." 346 00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:46,935 {\an8}[Steve] Biggins has his gun in his hand 347 00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:49,062 and he says, "Every motherfucker on the ground!" 348 00:19:49,146 --> 00:19:53,859 Scott turns around and says, "Everybody stand up! Stand up!" [laughs] 349 00:19:53,942 --> 00:19:57,237 Because he doesn't want anybody walking by to see people on the ground. 350 00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:00,717 {\an8}[Mark] I think Scott ordered everybody on the ground. 351 00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:03,869 {\an8}I think everybody was down when I walked into the bank. 352 00:20:05,829 --> 00:20:08,999 {\an8}If you've ever been in a car that you've lost control, 353 00:20:09,082 --> 00:20:10,918 {\an8}and it, you know, things slow down, 354 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,462 {\an8}that's what happened to me in the bank. 355 00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:15,047 {\an8}Everything was in slow motion. 356 00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:17,549 {\an8}Finally, it was time to leave, 357 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:19,968 {\an8}and Scott goes, "Mark, did you get the keys?" 358 00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:22,804 {\an8}He actually used my name. 359 00:20:23,972 --> 00:20:28,060 {\an8}I bent down and I said, "Sir, can I have your car keys?" 360 00:20:28,143 --> 00:20:31,563 {\an8}And the poor guy, he was really frightened. 361 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:36,360 {\an8}It's a brand-new car and I couldn't hear that it had started. 362 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:38,402 {\an8}[engine starts] 363 00:20:41,114 --> 00:20:43,575 {\an8}And as I was doing that, this other car pulls in. 364 00:20:47,287 --> 00:20:49,748 {\an8}Finally Scott goes, "I think the car's started." 365 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:51,750 {\an8}"Put it in reverse. Let's get out of here." 366 00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:54,253 {\an8}We started driving through suburbia. 367 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:59,549 {\an8}We get out at this designated spot and there's no van. 368 00:20:59,633 --> 00:21:03,095 {\an8}My friend panicked and went to point B. We had a backup. 369 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:09,226 {\an8}And we end up running across this golf course. 370 00:21:11,186 --> 00:21:13,730 {\an8}We could hear police cars coming. There are sirens. 371 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:17,526 {\an8}And there's my friend, parked where she's supposed to be. 372 00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:19,611 {\an8}[sirens wail] 373 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,741 That's the way it was. It was a comedy of errors. 374 00:21:22,823 --> 00:21:25,051 I don't know how they didn't get caught, but they didn't. 375 00:21:25,075 --> 00:21:26,435 {\an8}[Mark] And then I started thinking 376 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:29,788 {\an8}about all the possible clues we might have left behind. 377 00:21:29,871 --> 00:21:31,290 {\an8}We used Scott's van. 378 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:33,625 {\an8}If anybody took down the license plate, 379 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:36,795 {\an8}I thought, "Well, they're gonna show up any minute." 380 00:21:36,878 --> 00:21:38,672 {\an8}At one point, I sat up and said, 381 00:21:38,755 --> 00:21:41,091 {\an8}"I am never doing that again." 382 00:21:41,591 --> 00:21:46,972 {\an8}Scott goes, "Are you sure? Let's go do another one! Right now!" [laughs] 383 00:21:48,056 --> 00:21:51,935 {\an8}[Steve] After the robbery, Biggins got real scared and drove off to Montana. 384 00:21:55,022 --> 00:21:58,775 {\an8}But all of the failures inspired Scott to go deeper into it. 385 00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:03,322 {\an8}He realized he could handle the banks himself 386 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,741 {\an8}as long as everything outside was controlled. 387 00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:07,659 {\an8}And that's why he came for me. 388 00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:10,912 He was very scientific, analytical. 389 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:14,416 I was more improvising, artistic. 390 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:19,254 I had worked in sculpture throughout Europe, in Germany and Norway. 391 00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:23,759 I didn't care about the banks themselves. It didn't matter. 392 00:22:23,842 --> 00:22:24,968 "Great. Take 'em down." 393 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,095 "Take every last penny they have in the bank." 394 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,181 "That's no problem for me." 395 00:22:29,264 --> 00:22:34,394 But I couldn't imagine doing it. I just thought, "This is... This is insane." 396 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,148 But it's Scott and he's convincing. 397 00:22:38,648 --> 00:22:42,402 He said, "Man, this is the easiest thing. It's like taking candy from kids." 398 00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:44,988 "There's millions to be made in this." 399 00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:49,159 But, as we always said, 400 00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:51,953 there is no school of training for bank robbers. 401 00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:54,956 Doing what Scott and I did 402 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,417 is the most creative thing I've ever done in my life. 403 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,002 Much more than the art world. 404 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,883 Finding the perfect bank was a moment of exhilaration. 405 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:10,138 {\an8}It's like finding a piece of marble that is perfect for some image 406 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:11,848 {\an8}that I have that I want to sculpt. 407 00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:15,894 I would sit on the street, close enough that I could observe it. 408 00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:19,689 I'd write down the time of arrival of armored cars. 409 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,609 The deliveries were an important time of day 410 00:23:22,692 --> 00:23:24,973 because that's when you've got the most money in the bank. 411 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,533 If it was summer, I would have my windows down 412 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:31,868 and I'd have Bach or jazz going on. 413 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:37,290 {\an8}I'd be on the scanner all day, listening to the police calls. 414 00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:40,085 {\an8}[police radio chatter] 415 00:23:40,168 --> 00:23:43,088 {\an8}[Steve] And I would watch the patrols in that bank area 416 00:23:43,171 --> 00:23:46,341 to know when they'd come. I would log down the times. 417 00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:49,803 A number of the banks we did, 418 00:23:49,886 --> 00:23:52,806 there was a very consistent patrol route 419 00:23:52,889 --> 00:23:55,725 that the cops took at certain times of the day. 420 00:23:57,018 --> 00:23:57,936 We learned these routes 421 00:23:58,019 --> 00:24:00,605 so that five minutes after the cops left the area, 422 00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:02,399 we knew it was time to hit the banks. 423 00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:07,654 I spent months driving around the streets doing surveillance. 424 00:24:13,743 --> 00:24:17,414 You can't get a jump on a bank going in with some stupid mask on. 425 00:24:17,497 --> 00:24:18,497 It's ridiculous. 426 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:23,003 {\an8}So I would prepare these prosthetics, like they do in Hollywood. 427 00:24:23,086 --> 00:24:25,088 {\an8}["Goodbye Horses" by Q Lazzarus playing] 428 00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:32,929 {\an8}What we wanted were just components, like a nose, a chin, cheeks. 429 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,390 ["Goodbye Horses" continues] 430 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,769 He wore D.A.R.E. caps for two reasons. 431 00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:41,354 The first thing people think of 432 00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:43,857 is that he's probably a cop who wears a D.A.R.E. hat, 433 00:24:44,357 --> 00:24:45,984 and also to smite the police. 434 00:24:46,067 --> 00:24:49,029 'Cause it's like, "Here I am." You know what I mean? "Dare me." 435 00:24:49,112 --> 00:24:52,991 ♪ I see my hopes and dreams lying on the ground... ♪ 436 00:24:53,074 --> 00:24:55,952 [Steve] When I first saw him, he came back from the woods 437 00:24:56,036 --> 00:24:57,746 and I just stood there frozen. 438 00:24:57,829 --> 00:25:02,459 I go, "Oh my God Almighty. What in the fuck is this?" 439 00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:07,297 I could look at it and there'd be no way you'd ever think this was Scott Scurlock. 440 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:08,632 ♪ Goodbye horses... ♪ 441 00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:11,718 [Scott] I feel transformed in an eerie, magical way. 442 00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:13,094 ♪ I'm flying over... ♪ 443 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,281 [Scott] I'm changing rapidly in this stage of my life. 444 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,557 ♪ Goodbye horses... ♪ 445 00:25:17,641 --> 00:25:19,434 [Scott] I feel like a different person. 446 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:22,521 ♪ I'm flying, flying, flying ♪ 447 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:25,232 {\an8}[tense music playing] 448 00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:33,073 [Steve] The very first bank robbery that I did 449 00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,909 was the same bank that he did with Mark six weeks earlier. 450 00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:40,205 The important thing in taking down a bank 451 00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:44,417 is that initial 15 seconds when nobody thinks anything's happening. 452 00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:49,381 And he looked like a person that might have had a skin ailment. 453 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,884 So people would avoid looking at him. 454 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:56,596 [teller] How can I help you? 455 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,598 This is a robbery. Nobody move. 456 00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:01,393 [Steve] He would pull the gun out casually. 457 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,356 Nobody in their right mind would ever say no to this man. 458 00:26:07,148 --> 00:26:09,901 You two! Money in the bag. Everyone stay calm. 459 00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:11,611 [police radio chattering] 460 00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:15,365 [Steve] I was sitting with the scanner and the radio, and that was it. 461 00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:19,703 There was never any risk on my part because I had my own alibi. 462 00:26:19,786 --> 00:26:23,039 I had my own reason for being there, and I would never be caught, 463 00:26:23,123 --> 00:26:25,500 unless of course I had to call him out of the bank. 464 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,127 And the beauty of all of this 465 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:31,214 was creating and developing one of these robberies 466 00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:35,010 so that everything would work flawlessly, safely, 467 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:38,346 and that the actual outcome was what we wanted, which was the money. 468 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:41,391 We didn't talk the whole way. 469 00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,395 When we got to the Treehouse and began counting the money, 470 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:48,857 it was just five or ten thousand dollars. 471 00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:51,484 I go, "Man. This is ridiculous." 472 00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:54,696 "Who wants to go to prison for this little bitty kibbles and bits?" 473 00:26:55,196 --> 00:26:57,198 [tense music playing] 474 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,369 [Mike] In the early 1990s, I arrested my first bank robber, 475 00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,831 {\an8}and I thought, "Shit, this is like shooting fish in a pond." 476 00:27:04,914 --> 00:27:07,542 {\an8}I don't mean to say it in a braggadocios manner, 477 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,670 but within a period of five or six months, 478 00:27:10,754 --> 00:27:14,799 I had cleared close to 80 cases, and it became very addictive. 479 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:20,263 I was subsequently assigned to the FBI's violent crime task force. 480 00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:22,515 Hollywood flew under the radar 481 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:25,310 for the first couple of robberies because of the low take. 482 00:27:25,393 --> 00:27:27,937 When a suspect gets on top of the counter and dances around 483 00:27:28,021 --> 00:27:29,939 and tries to get command and control, 484 00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:33,151 and you have to carjack an old man for his Cadillac, 485 00:27:33,234 --> 00:27:35,570 it showed that these guys were bumbling idiots. 486 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:39,866 They probably started to ask themselves, "Hey, what are we doing wrong here?" 487 00:27:41,201 --> 00:27:46,081 {\an8}[Steve] I said, "Scott, I'm not gonna do this for 10, 15, 20 thousand dollars." 488 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,290 "It's stupid." 489 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:50,168 "We either do this right, and we either go for the vault, 490 00:27:50,251 --> 00:27:51,378 or I don't do it anymore." 491 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:53,296 "I don't wanna be messed up in this nonsense." 492 00:27:53,963 --> 00:27:56,803 He goes, "We can't do the vault 'cause I don't have enough information." 493 00:27:56,883 --> 00:27:59,010 - So he hired Mustang. - [telephone rings] 494 00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:04,391 Mustang was a special young woman. I've never quite met a woman like her. 495 00:28:04,474 --> 00:28:05,767 [sultry music playing] 496 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:10,480 She was hired to work in the Seafirst Bank as a teller. 497 00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:14,609 She got the manuals and she got all of the bank protocol 498 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:18,697 for teller stations, for the vaults, the armored car deliveries. 499 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,243 Once we had all the inside information from Mustang, 500 00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:25,245 we knew we could do what we needed to do. 501 00:28:25,328 --> 00:28:27,330 {\an8}[funky music playing] 502 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,259 [Steve] We learned from the protocol what to say. 503 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:43,096 This is real. This is a robbery. 504 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,474 [Steve] There's certain terminology you use to the bankers, 505 00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:50,061 and when they hear that terminology, they know you know what's going on. 506 00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:52,814 Who's the vault teller? 507 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,690 [woman] That's me. 508 00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:58,278 [Steve] This was the phenomenon of Scott. 509 00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:00,613 He could control the lobby 510 00:29:00,697 --> 00:29:03,366 and still deal with the vault at the same time. 511 00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:05,452 [tense music playing] 512 00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:09,288 [Scott] Quickly. 513 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:12,542 [tense music continues] 514 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,462 [Steve] He wants them to be calm. 515 00:29:15,545 --> 00:29:17,589 "Go over there. Just open the vault." 516 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:20,425 "There's no problem. Don't worry. Everything will be fine." 517 00:29:20,508 --> 00:29:22,177 "Just let me get in and get out." 518 00:29:23,136 --> 00:29:25,430 [tense music continues] 519 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:36,941 [Steve] It's like he's going into this catacomb of fantasy. 520 00:29:37,025 --> 00:29:39,027 [tense music continues] 521 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:49,370 Do you have another bag? 522 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:50,580 [police radio chatter] 523 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:55,710 [Scott] Everyone on the floor. Let's go! 524 00:29:56,544 --> 00:29:58,546 [tense music continues] 525 00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:03,676 [Steve] When we got home, we drove into the back of the studio. 526 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,846 I said, "How'd you do?" And he says, "Oh, man, it wasn't... Not good." 527 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:09,432 "It was another bad one." I go, "Oh, fuck me, man." 528 00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:10,767 "What, are you kidding me?" 529 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:12,936 And we get in and he dumps out this big bag. 530 00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:14,622 And it's just like... And I go, "Oh, man." 531 00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:16,648 [tense music continues] 532 00:30:18,566 --> 00:30:21,694 That was the biggest haul. It was the game changer. 533 00:30:22,695 --> 00:30:24,781 Not only for us, but for the FBI. 534 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:28,826 [music fades] 535 00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:31,454 I began with the FBI in 1987. 536 00:30:32,038 --> 00:30:34,290 By the time of the Hollywood investigation, 537 00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:37,418 I was the most experienced agent in the Seattle division 538 00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:38,670 working bank robberies. 539 00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:44,217 I'm trying to recall the cases I worked where somebody did what Hollywood did, 540 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,885 from doing teller drawers 541 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:49,639 to doing armed takeovers to doing vault takeovers. 542 00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:53,893 I can't think of anyone else that took that route. 543 00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:58,731 The Hollywood investigation was similar to a jigsaw puzzle. 544 00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:00,942 We had little clues here, little clues here. 545 00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:02,735 Starting to put the big picture together. 546 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,989 I think Hollywood was enjoying what he did. 547 00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:10,118 First four robberies, he got more than the average bank robber. 548 00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:14,205 But then he started going into the vaults. 549 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:17,417 Doing vault robberies on your own is very risky, 550 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,962 because you have no idea what's happening in the rest of the bank. 551 00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:24,799 It's more exposure. It's more potential for alarms going off. 552 00:31:25,925 --> 00:31:29,512 At that point in time, his level of sophistication went up. 553 00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,179 The threat went up. 554 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,976 It was a challenge to him, and he wanted to challenge us. 555 00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:37,729 But the big picture here was what? 556 00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:40,857 It was, "Who is Hollywood? Who is Hollywood?" 557 00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:46,738 - [man] All right. You ready? - Welcome to the Treehouse. Come right in. 558 00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:51,784 [Suzanne] My parents were totally in awe of the Treehouse 559 00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:54,621 because my dad loved building things. 560 00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:58,207 [man laughs] This is going to be the dining room. 561 00:31:58,291 --> 00:31:59,125 [Scott] Yup. 562 00:31:59,208 --> 00:32:02,503 [Suzanne] It was one of the most remarkable edifices ever. 563 00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:08,593 So they were in awe of who Scotty was and what he had done in that arena. 564 00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:10,678 [wistful music playing] 565 00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,348 We grew up in a loving household. 566 00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:17,352 My father was a minister, a very well-loved minister. 567 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:20,730 My mother was a teacher of learning disabled children. 568 00:32:22,398 --> 00:32:26,486 We were preacher's kids, and darn it, from a very young age, 569 00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:29,614 we were gonna prove to everybody that we're not goody-two-shoes. 570 00:32:30,281 --> 00:32:33,993 [man] Both of us were very adventurous. That's what made us friends. 571 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:37,872 He had a different quality, a fearlessness. 572 00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:41,834 There were showroom houses all around Reston, Virginia. 573 00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:44,712 We knew how to get into all of them. 574 00:32:45,588 --> 00:32:49,300 Scotty and I both learned how to pick locks. 575 00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:52,428 We did not learn to pick locks to steal anything. 576 00:32:52,512 --> 00:32:54,555 We learned how to pick locks 577 00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:57,308 so we could get to the other side of the door. 578 00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:59,394 [wistful music continues] 579 00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:02,313 [Suzanne] As he grew older into his teen years, 580 00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,732 he became more and more and more secretive. 581 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,568 And we used to call him the master of disinformation 582 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,988 because he wouldn't outright lie to you, 583 00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:14,909 but he would tell you something that you knew wasn't quite right 584 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,494 or he would leave something out. 585 00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:22,250 When he first started to do crazy stuff, 586 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:26,462 one of the things he did, and I think he was 15, maybe 16, 587 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:29,841 was that he and this friend stole a car, 588 00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:32,885 a van I believe, from a local day care center, 589 00:33:32,969 --> 00:33:35,179 and drove it to the beach, and they got caught. 590 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,851 And I think that was a big break for my father, 591 00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:42,520 because he realized with that event 592 00:33:42,603 --> 00:33:45,189 that something had really gone south in Scotty. 593 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:47,316 [wistful music continues] 594 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,239 He grew up and didn't outgrow the behavior that we had as kids or adolescents. 595 00:33:53,906 --> 00:33:56,284 He just sort of refined it and kept right on going. 596 00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:00,079 [Steve] Everything with Scott was a stepping stone. 597 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:04,333 The Hawthorne Hills Bank was the opening of a new world for us. 598 00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:07,670 {\an8}Once you enter the vaults, you're on another level. 599 00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:10,256 {\an8}At this point, 600 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:13,551 {\an8}when we would intentionally leave a vehicle for the cops, 601 00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:15,344 {\an8}we would make sure we hired a person, 602 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:19,474 {\an8}either a woman or some guy that looked totally different from us, 603 00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:23,561 {\an8}maybe he'd be 6 ft. 3 in. and long, scraggly hair or whatever, 604 00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:25,646 {\an8}give him $1,000, 605 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:28,983 {\an8}he would go purchase the car, drive it to me, and I would take it. 606 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,197 {\an8}We sanitized them with mineral spirits. 607 00:34:34,947 --> 00:34:39,202 {\an8}We would get female hair and put that in the back seat. 608 00:34:39,285 --> 00:34:41,996 {\an8}Tried to make it always as confusing as possible. 609 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,165 Sometimes there were multiple roads 610 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,459 leading to the bank where police would be coming, 611 00:34:46,542 --> 00:34:49,003 so we would hire somebody as a lookout. 612 00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:53,591 My role, only two occasions I did, uh, was to be a point man. 613 00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:56,761 He gave me a radio, told me to park here. 614 00:34:57,345 --> 00:35:00,014 When you see the police coming, just say, "Mama's coming." 615 00:35:00,973 --> 00:35:02,225 That's all you gotta do. 616 00:35:02,308 --> 00:35:04,936 There was no hesitation on my part to help Scott out. 617 00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:07,480 You know, it was just a thing among friends. 618 00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:11,859 [Steve] One of Scott's main methodologies was to repeat robbing the same bank. 619 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,612 Nobody's gonna believe that you're gonna come right back 620 00:35:14,695 --> 00:35:17,073 and do the same thing again within a few days. 621 00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:23,704 The first thing we'd do, we'd dump all the money out 622 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:26,833 and then we would go through with ultraviolet lights 623 00:35:26,916 --> 00:35:29,001 any money that looked like it might be marked. 624 00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:30,837 New money was the most dangerous 625 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,091 'cause you have sequential serial numbers, so we would scatter those around. 626 00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:40,263 We would lock up all of the equipment in military canisters 627 00:35:40,346 --> 00:35:42,181 that we would bury in the ground. 628 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:44,517 Then we took the clothes back into the forest 629 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,769 and we had a pit where we burned everything. 630 00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:49,355 After that, I had to go launder the money. 631 00:35:49,438 --> 00:35:51,607 ["I Want More" by Can playing] 632 00:35:51,691 --> 00:35:53,943 Scott did a lot of sportsbook gambling. 633 00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:56,737 And the laundering of the money, he thought of that. 634 00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,407 That was his creation. It's an ingenious creation. 635 00:36:01,075 --> 00:36:03,828 You place the same amount of money on both teams that are playing 636 00:36:03,911 --> 00:36:05,580 at two different casinos, 637 00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:07,915 and one of the teams is gonna win. 638 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,294 So you end up getting back all your money 639 00:36:11,377 --> 00:36:13,796 except for what the house receives on the losing team, 640 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,922 which is 5%. 641 00:36:16,090 --> 00:36:17,925 We weren't losing anything, really. 642 00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:19,468 ["I Want More" continues] 643 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,846 Scott did a lot with his money 644 00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:24,390 and he just lived his life the way he wanted to live it. 645 00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:26,392 ["I Want More" continues] 646 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,897 Travel, seeing the world, meeting different people. 647 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,023 That's what he loved. 648 00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:36,068 [Scott] I have been realizing lately the virtues of traveling alone. 649 00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:39,989 All my wildest experiences have happened while I'm alone. 650 00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:43,034 [T.J.] Scott was definitely a man of mystery. 651 00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:45,244 He would disappear for a while. 652 00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:49,874 One time I thought maybe he was CIA. Maybe he was a pot grower. 653 00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,587 [Jimmy] I never really asked him what he did for money. 654 00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:59,967 He must be a contractor. I don't know. That's why he was so handy building. 655 00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:09,143 I found out that he was really interested in stopping the logging of the forest. 656 00:37:10,311 --> 00:37:11,938 [Steve] He worked with Earth First, 657 00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:14,857 and he would give donation money to these environmentalists. 658 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:18,361 And I said, "Why do you do that, Scott? Why waste money on these hippies?" 659 00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:22,823 [Alban] Scott did view himself as a Robin Hood figure. 660 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:26,410 And I think it was, uh, evident in the way he acquired the money 661 00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:28,496 and then also the way he dispersed it. 662 00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:32,643 [Jimmy] In terms of him being a Robin Hood figure, I know that was true. 663 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:35,586 He gave money to me. He gave money to other people and other things. 664 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:37,296 I saw him give money away. 665 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:39,382 [Steve] He helped people. 666 00:37:39,465 --> 00:37:43,135 They needed something, he'd give them a few thousand dollars for whatever. 667 00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:45,012 He spread the money around. 668 00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,260 [Mark] It's a funny relationship you have with money. 669 00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:50,685 You didn't earn it. You stole it. You took it. 670 00:37:50,768 --> 00:37:52,728 Spend it freely, and then go get more. 671 00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:53,854 [Scott] Mmm, mmm. 672 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,523 [Steve] He wasn't Robin Hood. 673 00:37:55,606 --> 00:37:57,400 If you look at Robin Hood, it was idealistic. 674 00:37:57,483 --> 00:38:00,361 He stole from the rich and gave, you know, all of that nonsense. 675 00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:01,737 And Scott wasn't like that. 676 00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:03,614 He helped people that he knew 677 00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,284 if he needed something in the future to be done, 678 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,786 he could call on them and they would do it. 679 00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:12,999 [suspenseful music playing] 680 00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:21,674 [Steve] Regardless of how successful it all was, 681 00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:24,302 there's a certain point where you're challenging fate 682 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:28,014 and it doesn't always turn out the way you want it to turn out. 683 00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:29,765 [suspenseful music continues] 684 00:38:29,849 --> 00:38:31,600 {\an8}One robbery we had to abort 685 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:34,437 {\an8}because a customer recognized him as he was walking in. 686 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,483 {\an8}I got the dispatch call, and I had to call him out. 687 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:42,737 [Steve on radio] We're out. Let's go, let's go. 688 00:38:43,612 --> 00:38:46,324 {\an8}[Steve] For the next one, as soon as he got in his getaway car, 689 00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:49,785 {\an8}the dye pack blew up and he threw that whole thing out. 690 00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:52,288 {\an8}[suspenseful music continues] 691 00:38:52,371 --> 00:38:53,372 {\an8}[tires screech] 692 00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:57,752 {\an8}We found the vehicle just blocks away from the bank. 693 00:38:58,919 --> 00:39:02,340 I sat in that station wagon at the scene for a couple of minutes, 694 00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:03,758 just absorbing that. 695 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:07,511 That was the closest I had come to him at that point in time, 696 00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:10,389 sitting in that car waiting for the next robbery to happen. 697 00:39:11,807 --> 00:39:13,601 We were able to trace it to previous owners. 698 00:39:14,643 --> 00:39:17,438 Through that, we were able to develop composite sketches 699 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:19,857 of individuals who had bought cars. 700 00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:22,735 [Ellen] We had a police profiler come in 701 00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:25,363 and brief all of the people that were working on the case 702 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,531 who suggested that he might be a police officer. 703 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,745 We thought that because of the skill that he had when he was robbing banks. 704 00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,581 There was suspicion that Detective Magan had 705 00:39:35,664 --> 00:39:37,958 that Hollywood might be a police officer. 706 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:41,670 Shawn Johnson had the belief that Hollywood could be a police officer. 707 00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:44,840 Did I believe he was a police officer? No. 708 00:39:44,924 --> 00:39:46,842 I didn't buy that theory. 709 00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:48,135 We definitely considered it, 710 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:50,721 and we thought that that made him more dangerous. 711 00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:54,642 We wanted to get the word out so we could solve this case. 712 00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:55,893 So we used the media, 713 00:39:55,976 --> 00:39:59,188 and that was part of a very carefully laid-out plan. 714 00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:02,566 We told you about a bank robber nicknamed Hollywood. 715 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:05,694 He's number one on the FBI's Most Wanted List. 716 00:40:05,778 --> 00:40:08,539 [reporter] Disguises are the reason the FBI dubbed this man Hollywood. 717 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,741 He's successfully hit more than a dozen banks 718 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,034 in the past four years. 719 00:40:12,118 --> 00:40:14,495 [David] It changed the story dramatically 720 00:40:14,578 --> 00:40:17,123 when the FBI came out with this nickname of Hollywood, 721 00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:21,001 because we knew that they were having a hard time tracking this guy, 722 00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:22,503 and it seemed to be on a cycle. 723 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,880 Like every six months, a bank was being hit, 724 00:40:24,964 --> 00:40:26,882 and it became, "Was this Hollywood again?" 725 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:29,176 [reporter] FBI agent Shawn Johnson's mission 726 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,846 is to find anyone who knows anything about Hollywood. 727 00:40:31,929 --> 00:40:35,391 I think initially, we'll start off, uh, door-to-door, 728 00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:37,393 half of us on one side, half on the other. 729 00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:40,813 [David] You didn't usually see an FBI agent walk into a neighborhood 730 00:40:40,896 --> 00:40:43,774 and say, "Can you tell me anything about this bank robbery?" 731 00:40:43,858 --> 00:40:48,404 That was wild, to see an agent, you know, being so open. 732 00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:51,615 Also a clue that they had no clue. 733 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:56,537 Maybe I wanted him to know that I was there, you know? 734 00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:59,707 I was there too. So here's me on TV. 735 00:40:59,790 --> 00:41:02,168 [mysterious music playing] 736 00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,712 [Mike] Most suspects followed their media. 737 00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:07,673 In fact, I think they actually loved it. 738 00:41:07,756 --> 00:41:09,596 {\an8}[Steve] The first time we heard about Hollywood 739 00:41:09,633 --> 00:41:11,886 was from the two-page article with Shawn Johnson. 740 00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:12,803 He was saying, 741 00:41:12,887 --> 00:41:15,447 "Somebody out there knows who this man is and we need your help." 742 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:19,560 - [reporter 1] His nickname is Hollywood. - [reporter 2] Hollywood wears makeup... 743 00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:21,896 [Steve] That name influenced him immensely. 744 00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:23,606 I think it built him up even more. 745 00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:24,773 I think it excited him, 746 00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:28,569 without him saying it or acknowledging it, but I know his personality. 747 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:29,862 Deep inside, he was proud. 748 00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:33,699 [Ellen] We thought he would rob again if he was getting so much attention. 749 00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:39,288 [tense music playing] 750 00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:44,335 [Steve] Each robbery was an opportunity to try something new. 751 00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:50,007 For the getaways, we would try to figure out what the FBI would expect us to do, 752 00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:51,884 and then we would just do the opposite. 753 00:41:52,468 --> 00:41:54,637 For the bank we wanted to do, to get away, 754 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,515 you either go down Madison toward the police coming in, 755 00:41:57,598 --> 00:41:59,975 or you have to go all around the lake. 756 00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:03,187 So I said, "Why don't you get into the van and just stay there?" 757 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:04,813 "And I'll go to a restaurant, 758 00:42:04,897 --> 00:42:07,066 and I'll sit and wait for the heat to go." 759 00:42:07,149 --> 00:42:09,735 "When the police are gone, I'll get back out in my car, 760 00:42:09,818 --> 00:42:12,780 and I'll radio you and let you know, uh, that it's clear to come out." 761 00:42:14,615 --> 00:42:17,826 {\an8}He had a van and we had it retrofitted so he could get under the floor. 762 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,538 So if they shined lights in there, they couldn't see him. 763 00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:22,623 [tense music continues] 764 00:42:24,124 --> 00:42:26,252 I told Scott, I said, "Man, this is gonna be big." 765 00:42:26,752 --> 00:42:28,212 "I just had a dream last night." 766 00:42:28,295 --> 00:42:30,357 "We're gonna have over a quarter of a million dollars 767 00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:32,299 and you're gonna get out safely." 768 00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:33,592 "It's not gonna be a problem." 769 00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:36,637 [tense music continues] 770 00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:44,353 [sirens wail] 771 00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:48,899 {\an8}[Steve] It was a good 45 minutes I was in the restaurant. 772 00:42:50,276 --> 00:42:52,278 {\an8}There was four or five cop cars out there, 773 00:42:52,361 --> 00:42:54,029 {\an8}and I could just look out the window 774 00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:56,657 and see when it was dispersed and finished. 775 00:42:57,324 --> 00:43:01,453 {\an8}I arrive at the scene and I'm thinking, 776 00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:07,042 "Is this guy some kind of a ghost? How does he just slip away like that?" 777 00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:09,128 [tense music continues] 778 00:43:12,047 --> 00:43:14,383 {\an8}[Steve] One thing he discovered while he was in the van 779 00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:16,468 {\an8}was the condensation from his breathing. 780 00:43:17,636 --> 00:43:18,804 {\an8}If the police had been aware, 781 00:43:18,887 --> 00:43:21,473 {\an8}they would see that and think there was someone in there. 782 00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,060 I went over to a wine shop across the street 783 00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:27,980 and when I came out of the wine shop, they had all gone. 784 00:43:28,063 --> 00:43:29,440 And I went to the car 785 00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:32,484 and I got my radio out and I radioed Scott, 786 00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:34,028 and I said, "Boss, let's go." 787 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,455 It was this cat and mouse game. 788 00:43:44,538 --> 00:43:47,875 It was clear that police and law enforcement were frustrated. 789 00:43:47,958 --> 00:43:50,336 They couldn't figure out who this person was. 790 00:43:50,419 --> 00:43:52,254 [reporter 1] What everyone seems to remember 791 00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:55,090 is how he orders people around and threatens to shoot them. 792 00:43:55,174 --> 00:43:56,925 [reporter 2] FBI agents are frustrated 793 00:43:57,009 --> 00:44:00,262 that Hollywood has been able to get away with so much for so long. 794 00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:03,724 They fear that he will turn violent before he's caught. 795 00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:06,644 [David] I think that's what changed the Hollywood story, 796 00:44:06,727 --> 00:44:09,605 is that, until we started to hear from the tellers 797 00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:12,816 who told these horrifying stories, he hadn't hurt anybody. 798 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:14,318 [tense music playing] 799 00:44:14,401 --> 00:44:18,113 [Shawn] He got more desperate sometimes. He tried to get in the vault. 800 00:44:18,197 --> 00:44:21,283 The vault tellers weren't there to let him in, he got real upset. 801 00:44:21,367 --> 00:44:23,567 He said, "It's Christmas. I don't want to kill anybody," 802 00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:25,579 and used a stun gun on one of the employees. 803 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,915 So he was willing to use weapons. 804 00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:31,126 I've seen people crying. 805 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:34,296 I mean, just very emotional, and you're trying to get to the point 806 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,008 where you calm them down a bit to... to talk to them, what happened. 807 00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:42,179 It was unlike any robbery that any of them had ever gone through before. 808 00:44:42,262 --> 00:44:45,015 {\an8}[bank teller] We could not tell from one second to the next 809 00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:46,558 {\an8}what he was likely to do. 810 00:44:46,642 --> 00:44:48,894 {\an8}He was extremely threatening. 811 00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:52,064 [Ellen] Bank robbery is not a victimless crime. 812 00:44:52,606 --> 00:44:55,234 The people that are in the bank are traumatized, 813 00:44:55,317 --> 00:44:57,403 tellers are traumatized. 814 00:44:57,486 --> 00:45:01,907 When you have a gun pointed at your face, where people threaten to kill you, 815 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:04,368 these take a toll on human beings. 816 00:45:04,451 --> 00:45:06,787 I've been robbed 14 times, 817 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:09,665 and one of those was the Hollywood bank robber. 818 00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:12,459 He commanded this presence, 819 00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:16,547 and he told everyone to freeze and everyone froze. 820 00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:20,134 It's unusual for a robber to have that much control. 821 00:45:20,676 --> 00:45:22,678 It doesn't ever leave you. 822 00:45:23,178 --> 00:45:27,891 You can go on with your life, but it doesn't ever leave you. Ever. 823 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,788 {\an8}[bank teller] There's got to be something more that we can do to stop these people. 824 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:33,480 {\an8}Somebody's going to get hurt. 825 00:45:33,564 --> 00:45:37,067 He thought that he was just having the greatest time, 826 00:45:37,151 --> 00:45:38,444 living his best life. 827 00:45:40,446 --> 00:45:43,741 But for him to think that he was gonna get away with this 828 00:45:44,241 --> 00:45:45,701 was just a false premise. 829 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:47,410 [laughter] 830 00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:50,080 [Steve] When you step into the world we were living, 831 00:45:50,164 --> 00:45:52,666 you have no idea the toll it's gonna bring upon you. 832 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:53,750 It's impossible. 833 00:45:55,377 --> 00:45:57,629 After so many years of bank robberies, 834 00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:01,175 you are no longer the same person that you were before you began. 835 00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:05,721 [Alban] Scott started to get stressed. 836 00:46:06,221 --> 00:46:09,892 He was no longer the casual, happy-go-lucky person. 837 00:46:09,975 --> 00:46:11,101 That person was gone. 838 00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:14,938 [T.J.] The vibe around the Treehouse changed. 839 00:46:15,022 --> 00:46:20,444 He became more closed off, and more isolated, and way less social. 840 00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:24,740 [Steve] Scott had me live up at the front house 841 00:46:24,823 --> 00:46:26,116 to keep people out of there. 842 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:29,870 More and more, his life was becoming secretive 843 00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:31,497 and he needed to have people away. 844 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:33,874 He didn't want people around, seeing what he was doing. 845 00:46:36,668 --> 00:46:40,964 {\an8}[Mark] Once you do cross the Rubicon and start living that life, 846 00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:44,510 {\an8}you have to lie to everybody about everything. 847 00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:47,596 Everybody you care about. Everybody you meet. 848 00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:51,183 [Scott] I keep going in the wrong direction. 849 00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:55,229 I start things and then stop before the great benefit can be gotten. 850 00:46:55,729 --> 00:46:57,898 Many females have felt my no-follow-through. 851 00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:03,070 Do I just want to want? Is that why I get no satisfaction? 852 00:47:04,154 --> 00:47:08,116 I one time kidded with him when I'd observe him with certain women. 853 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,245 I'd say, "What do you do? Treat women like condiments? Give me a break." 854 00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:14,957 [T.J.] Is he single or what? You got women in your bed? 855 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:18,215 [Scott] Things don't compute like they used to. 856 00:47:18,669 --> 00:47:21,338 I usually feel free and secure about my plans in life, 857 00:47:22,381 --> 00:47:25,259 but now I'm beginning to feel captured. 858 00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:27,010 [T.J.] Cheers! 859 00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:30,597 [Suzanne] He showed up at the door, "Gotta talk to you." 860 00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:34,017 And as we're sitting there, he's sitting across from me 861 00:47:34,101 --> 00:47:37,020 and he just starts to cry, like tears streaming down his face. 862 00:47:37,104 --> 00:47:40,357 And he says, "Suze, I don't know what's going on." 863 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,069 "But when I look in the mirror, the face looking back at me isn't my own." 864 00:47:44,152 --> 00:47:45,404 "What is that?" 865 00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:48,740 I knew at that point he was really in trouble. 866 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:53,704 This light and dark tussle in him, he was losing the battle. 867 00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:58,709 [Steve] He started drinking more and more and more to subdue the anxieties. 868 00:47:59,251 --> 00:48:02,296 But Scott wanted one final act, 869 00:48:02,379 --> 00:48:03,964 and that was three or four banks, 870 00:48:04,047 --> 00:48:06,300 one right after the other in the same evening. 871 00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,678 We get 10 to 15 million dollars and we call it a day. 872 00:48:09,761 --> 00:48:12,014 I go about my business, you go about yours. 873 00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:13,432 [tense music playing] 874 00:48:13,515 --> 00:48:15,183 We had three banks figured out. 875 00:48:16,852 --> 00:48:20,022 First, you hit a small bank, go in and get out, 876 00:48:20,105 --> 00:48:21,523 and you don't care about the money. 877 00:48:21,607 --> 00:48:24,735 You just care about diverting the police to that small bank. 878 00:48:24,818 --> 00:48:26,570 Then you go back and hit a bigger bank. 879 00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:29,197 Then by the time they get there, there's a third one. 880 00:48:29,281 --> 00:48:30,657 I mean, what are they gonna do? 881 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,036 We wanted to decimate the city of Seattle, 882 00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,747 and it was not only doable, it was winnable. 883 00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:38,832 [tense music playing] 884 00:48:39,625 --> 00:48:42,711 [Shawn] I was getting a bit frustrated during this investigation. 885 00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,075 We had come up with a couple of getaway vehicles and such, 886 00:48:45,130 --> 00:48:47,382 but it was getting close but not close enough. 887 00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:51,887 I got tired of waiting, just reacting to his bank robberies. 888 00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:55,641 I started digging back through the files, 889 00:48:55,724 --> 00:48:57,976 back through the MO, 890 00:48:58,477 --> 00:49:00,479 the time of day, the day of the week, 891 00:49:00,562 --> 00:49:03,607 location of the banks, how much money he was taking. 892 00:49:04,691 --> 00:49:06,068 I knew he had an ego. 893 00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:09,196 That's why I knew he was gonna come back at some point in time. 894 00:49:10,572 --> 00:49:12,240 I sat down and did the math, 895 00:49:13,158 --> 00:49:17,829 figured out that he was going through approximately $21,000 a month. 896 00:49:19,498 --> 00:49:20,666 So with that in mind, 897 00:49:20,749 --> 00:49:24,044 I predicted that he was going to hit one of three days 898 00:49:24,127 --> 00:49:25,629 the following year in January. 899 00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:29,174 I knew that he would be back. 900 00:49:29,257 --> 00:49:32,010 Certain locations I thought were likely targets. 901 00:49:33,011 --> 00:49:34,972 It was a waiting game for them to come back, 902 00:49:35,055 --> 00:49:37,391 and that we were in the right spot at the right time. 903 00:49:43,063 --> 00:49:45,691 [Steve] After the last big robbery, we took a year off. 904 00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:49,111 We were finally planning to take down three banks, 905 00:49:49,194 --> 00:49:50,904 but we needed another person 906 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,116 because of the logistics of taking down these banks. 907 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,560 [Mark] After the first bank robbery, 908 00:49:59,621 --> 00:50:02,749 I went right to Montana and was hiding out there 909 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:06,169 and then Scott showed up and drew me back into it. 910 00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:09,589 Scott's been going into the banks by himself, 911 00:50:09,673 --> 00:50:12,509 and he was having trouble with crowd control. 912 00:50:12,592 --> 00:50:15,345 So he told me, "All you have to do is stand in the lobby." 913 00:50:15,429 --> 00:50:17,931 "Make sure nobody leaves. That's all you gotta do." 914 00:50:20,058 --> 00:50:22,310 [Shawn] A year had passed since I made those predictions 915 00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:24,271 on three days in January that he was gonna hit. 916 00:50:24,354 --> 00:50:28,108 - [police radio chattering] - So myself and a task force member 917 00:50:28,191 --> 00:50:31,028 surveilled banks I figured were logical targets for Hollywood. 918 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:33,947 First day, nothing happens. 919 00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:37,367 Second day, nothing happened. 920 00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:41,204 The third day, I was out there waiting for him by myself. 921 00:50:42,247 --> 00:50:44,291 [Steve] With Mark back, we decided to hit one bank, 922 00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:46,752 just to get the feel of it, before we hit three. 923 00:50:46,835 --> 00:50:48,587 [tense music playing] 924 00:50:49,504 --> 00:50:52,966 [Mark] My second robbery was so different than the first. 925 00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:55,594 More under control, went a lot smoother. 926 00:50:55,677 --> 00:50:58,013 It was more like a job than an adventure. 927 00:50:58,096 --> 00:50:59,222 [tense music continues] 928 00:50:59,306 --> 00:51:00,682 [indistinct radio chatter] 929 00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:06,605 [Shawn] I knew immediately based on the description, 930 00:51:07,105 --> 00:51:08,398 "Oh shit, it's Hollywood." 931 00:51:08,982 --> 00:51:11,735 He's hitting another bank a mile up from where I was waiting for him. 932 00:51:11,818 --> 00:51:15,197 He came back just as I said. He came back the third day. 933 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,535 I was getting closer and I felt like, "I'm just a couple of minutes behind you." 934 00:51:20,619 --> 00:51:23,413 "Not months, not weeks. Just a few minutes behind you now." 935 00:51:23,497 --> 00:51:25,207 [tires screech] 936 00:51:25,290 --> 00:51:28,585 [Shawn] I proceeded up to the bank. We had secured the scene. 937 00:51:29,294 --> 00:51:32,297 I was the first follow-up person at the scene. 938 00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:35,842 And I get to the bank and I'm looking at Shawn Johnson, 939 00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:37,886 like, "How did you get here so fast?" 940 00:51:37,969 --> 00:51:41,723 And I found out that he and FBI agents only 941 00:51:41,807 --> 00:51:45,435 were running their own surveillance looking for Hollywood. 942 00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:48,939 He cut everybody else out on the task force. 943 00:51:49,022 --> 00:51:53,068 Other task force officers decided that what I was doing was crazy. 944 00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:55,151 "He's not gonna come back. He's not gonna be here." 945 00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:59,157 [Ellen] I remember how that kind of ramped up everybody's energy 946 00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:00,617 to work this case, 947 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,037 'cause it had been some gap since his previous robbery. 948 00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:06,581 [Mike] Everybody on the task force thought at that point 949 00:52:06,665 --> 00:52:09,835 that something bad was definitely gonna happen. 950 00:52:10,335 --> 00:52:12,420 And to Ellen's credit, 951 00:52:12,504 --> 00:52:16,341 she saw that this case was spinning a little bit out of control, 952 00:52:16,424 --> 00:52:18,677 and we needed to put an end to it. 953 00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:25,100 [Ellen] Hollywood was kind of predictable 954 00:52:25,183 --> 00:52:28,061 in terms of the times of day and where he would rob. 955 00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:30,939 We hatched a plan to do surveillances, 956 00:52:31,022 --> 00:52:34,192 hoping that one of our guys would be out on the street 957 00:52:34,276 --> 00:52:35,694 when he robbed a bank. 958 00:52:35,777 --> 00:52:39,906 We needed the Seattle Police Department. We needed their special patrol unit. 959 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:42,033 We needed aerial resources. 960 00:52:42,117 --> 00:52:44,619 - We added extra FBI resources. - [camera clicks] 961 00:52:44,703 --> 00:52:50,000 {\an8}To get all of that in line was an absolutely Herculean effort. 962 00:52:50,083 --> 00:52:54,254 So we made a commitment to bring all these resources together 963 00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:56,173 for an indefinite period. 964 00:52:59,384 --> 00:53:03,180 This was a time when one of the new techniques was ProNet. 965 00:53:03,263 --> 00:53:08,268 It was using these electronic tracers that were attached to money. 966 00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:10,312 They would shoot their signal to towers. 967 00:53:10,395 --> 00:53:14,191 And so then you had to have a mechanism to follow the tags. 968 00:53:14,274 --> 00:53:16,484 So we had to put 'em in a lot of police cars. 969 00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,280 [Shawn] I had to go back again through the robberies to date 970 00:53:20,363 --> 00:53:23,033 to find out logical targets that I would hit again 971 00:53:23,116 --> 00:53:24,910 to put devices into the banks. 972 00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:29,998 [Ellen] We put two of these electronic tracers in as many banks as we could. 973 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,585 [Mike] Everything revolved around time. 974 00:53:34,085 --> 00:53:36,713 The more of these tracking devices that were in the vault, 975 00:53:36,796 --> 00:53:39,132 the more time it allowed me to get there. 976 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,594 {\an8}[Al Pacino] If it's between you and some poor bastard 977 00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:44,804 {\an8}whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, 978 00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:48,934 brother, you are going down. 979 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:53,563 [Mark] Scott and I had watched Heat, which was a pretty intense movie. 980 00:53:53,647 --> 00:53:56,441 - [screaming] - [grunting] 981 00:53:56,524 --> 00:53:58,026 [man] Don't move! Don't fucking move. 982 00:53:58,109 --> 00:54:01,279 [Mark] The bank robbing scenes in that movie are spot-on. 983 00:54:01,363 --> 00:54:05,700 And then the shootout just scared the bejesus out of us. 984 00:54:08,995 --> 00:54:11,373 I remember Scott and I looking at each other, just going, 985 00:54:11,456 --> 00:54:14,334 "Oh my goodness, what if that happened?" 986 00:54:17,712 --> 00:54:19,881 And that was the game we were playing. 987 00:54:21,007 --> 00:54:24,719 It was a real possibility, which put the fear of God into us. 988 00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:27,222 Fear of our own mortality. 989 00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:29,849 [dramatic music playing] 990 00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:32,978 Throughout my time working on this case, 991 00:54:33,061 --> 00:54:35,438 I always thought there was a great possibility 992 00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:36,982 that someone could get hurt. 993 00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:41,361 I've been close to other bank robberies before in the FBI 994 00:54:41,444 --> 00:54:44,322 where colleagues of mine were killed 995 00:54:44,406 --> 00:54:49,119 in a major shootout in Miami in 1986. 996 00:54:49,202 --> 00:54:51,538 [reporter] In a firefight lasting over four minutes, 997 00:54:51,621 --> 00:54:56,418 two special agents of the FBI were slain and five other agents were wounded. 998 00:54:56,918 --> 00:55:00,046 We may not have known who Hollywood was, 999 00:55:00,130 --> 00:55:03,717 but what we did know is that if we faced off with him in the street, 1000 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,052 he would not go down without a fight. 1001 00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:10,932 [somber music playing] 1002 00:55:12,017 --> 00:55:14,853 [Steve] At some point in the middle of everything, 1003 00:55:14,936 --> 00:55:17,480 I had a very vivid dream. 1004 00:55:18,106 --> 00:55:20,775 I was crawling up a beach from the water 1005 00:55:20,859 --> 00:55:23,278 and a shark had just bitten both of my legs off. 1006 00:55:23,361 --> 00:55:25,363 [somber music continues] 1007 00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,535 [Steve] I took the dream as advice. 1008 00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:33,663 The advice was to get out of it. 1009 00:55:35,373 --> 00:55:39,377 I could sense that Scott felt that there was something looming. 1010 00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:45,091 We took hikes up in the Olympics. The Olympics were special to Scott. 1011 00:55:46,384 --> 00:55:48,386 That was our time of peace. 1012 00:55:49,304 --> 00:55:52,265 We cleared our mind of the city, of the chaos, 1013 00:55:52,349 --> 00:55:55,560 and we would go up there in nature and we'd challenge ourselves. 1014 00:55:57,103 --> 00:55:58,730 On the top of Mount Washington, 1015 00:55:58,813 --> 00:56:02,776 Scott said to me, "Listen. No matter what, let your own hand be the hand of fate, 1016 00:56:02,859 --> 00:56:05,570 and never let your enemy dictate your fate." 1017 00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:09,949 "You make sure you're in control of what you do with your life." 1018 00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:13,536 [Alban] One bank was not enough for Scott. 1019 00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:15,163 He wanted to do three banks. 1020 00:56:15,663 --> 00:56:17,207 I said, "You're nuts, man." 1021 00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:19,793 I talked to Steve and I told him, 1022 00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:23,004 "Listen, man. I think this guy is getting out of hand here." 1023 00:56:23,088 --> 00:56:26,591 "And I'm going to California and I suggest you come with me." 1024 00:56:26,674 --> 00:56:29,928 And he actually was thinking about it, 1025 00:56:30,011 --> 00:56:32,013 except he didn't want to let Scott down. 1026 00:56:33,056 --> 00:56:36,351 [Steve] With the final robbery, I knew I had to go through with it, 1027 00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:39,854 because something had to culminate. Something had to finalize itself. 1028 00:56:41,815 --> 00:56:43,858 The last time that I saw Scott, 1029 00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,944 I had this really bad dream. 1030 00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,073 The dream involved guns, a shootout. 1031 00:56:50,156 --> 00:56:52,659 It was in Seattle. People were running. 1032 00:56:52,742 --> 00:56:56,621 And I'm telling him this dream and he got all white. 1033 00:56:57,956 --> 00:57:00,917 He took a big breath and says, "You're probably not gonna see me again." 1034 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,962 "I'm probably gonna go to the Seychelle Islands." 1035 00:57:04,045 --> 00:57:06,405 And I go, "Really?" I said, "You're gonna come back, right?" 1036 00:57:06,464 --> 00:57:08,967 He goes, "I don't think you're gonna see me again." 1037 00:57:09,467 --> 00:57:11,469 [somber music continues] 1038 00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:17,434 [Scott] I walk into the night and scream at God to make his message known to me. 1039 00:57:18,893 --> 00:57:21,104 God is not responding and I sense rejection. 1040 00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:25,525 It is a time of pain and anger and resentment. 1041 00:57:26,484 --> 00:57:30,697 Where the fuck do I go from here, oh great winged white horseman in my mind? 1042 00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:34,826 This will be the last entry for a long time. 1043 00:57:34,909 --> 00:57:35,909 [music fades] 1044 00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:43,918 [Steve] We prepared for years to rob these banks. 1045 00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:47,297 And about two weeks before Thanksgiving, 1046 00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:49,674 Scott said there's good news and bad news. 1047 00:57:50,258 --> 00:57:53,636 The bad news is that they now have ProNet tags in the vault money. 1048 00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:57,765 There is no way to beat the tags in time to do our original plan. 1049 00:57:58,725 --> 00:58:00,977 So we had to abandon the multiple banks scenario. 1050 00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:02,145 [tense music playing] 1051 00:58:02,228 --> 00:58:06,024 The good news is, we take this bank up on 125th Street. 1052 00:58:06,608 --> 00:58:08,526 Mustang told us that there should be 1053 00:58:08,610 --> 00:58:10,904 five to seven million dollars within the bank. 1054 00:58:11,654 --> 00:58:13,698 So our whole game plan changed. 1055 00:58:15,116 --> 00:58:18,620 But the tracers we had to figure out, and we had to figure out quickly. 1056 00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:22,248 We did a bank just to see how we had to deal with it. 1057 00:58:23,958 --> 00:58:26,503 We de-disguised Scott into a ski mask. 1058 00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:29,631 We didn't want them to think it was Hollywood taking out the tracers. 1059 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:34,719 And I said, "Listen, just go in there. Don't even fuck around with the tellers." 1060 00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,597 "Go into the vault, get the money, 1061 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,682 and when you come out, we'll have the tracers." 1062 00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:42,769 "Then we'll find out how they're planted in the money." 1063 00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:48,483 All of these tags were put between $20 bills, 1064 00:58:48,566 --> 00:58:50,902 because you can fan it, you can feel this lump. 1065 00:58:52,028 --> 00:58:55,782 In a very short time, we got two that we discarded out the window. 1066 00:58:56,699 --> 00:58:57,779 And then after all of that, 1067 00:58:57,825 --> 00:59:00,745 we both felt comfortable and confident that we could actually do it. 1068 00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:07,085 [tense music playing] 1069 00:59:14,092 --> 00:59:17,720 [Shawn] I woke up the morning of Thanksgiving Eve 1996. 1070 00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:21,015 My wife says to me that morning before I leave, "This is the day." 1071 00:59:21,099 --> 00:59:23,935 "This is the day. You're catching Hollywood today." 1072 00:59:24,018 --> 00:59:27,522 And I'm thinking, "Well, yeah, I... I don't know about that." 1073 00:59:27,605 --> 00:59:29,691 [Mike] Thanksgiving week was always a short week 1074 00:59:29,774 --> 00:59:32,277 and most of the people aren't even in the office. 1075 00:59:33,611 --> 00:59:35,446 [Steve] We wake up Thanksgiving Eve. 1076 00:59:35,530 --> 00:59:38,366 We look out the windows. The rain was pounding. 1077 00:59:38,449 --> 00:59:40,827 It was gray and dark. It was beautiful. Wonderful. 1078 00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:42,310 Perfect day for what we were doing. 1079 00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:43,913 [tense music continues] 1080 00:59:43,997 --> 00:59:47,250 I'm in there cleaning, setting things up, making it perfect. 1081 00:59:48,167 --> 00:59:49,669 [Mark] We go to the makeup room 1082 00:59:49,752 --> 00:59:52,505 and we put on the prosthetic pieces and the wigs, 1083 00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:54,507 and there wasn't really a lot said. 1084 00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:59,137 [Steve] I walk into the studio. Scott has the guitar case out. 1085 00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:02,849 He has his assault rifle out. He has the shotgun out. 1086 01:00:03,516 --> 01:00:06,436 [Mark] The idea was that if a cop car came up on us, 1087 01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:10,440 we would grab the shotty, jump out, and shoot out the engine, 1088 01:00:10,523 --> 01:00:12,233 and disable the cop car. 1089 01:00:13,651 --> 01:00:14,971 [Steve] Everything was finalized. 1090 01:00:15,028 --> 01:00:17,780 We were ready to get in the van and take off for Seattle. 1091 01:00:19,073 --> 01:00:22,035 We had Mustang as a lookout on the hill. 1092 01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:23,911 It's time to do it. 1093 01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:25,829 [music fades] 1094 01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:36,591 We had been trained specifically on the Hollywood Bandit. 1095 01:00:37,216 --> 01:00:40,720 And when he walked into the Lake City branch to rob us, 1096 01:00:40,803 --> 01:00:42,764 he walked right past his wanted poster. 1097 01:00:42,847 --> 01:00:44,515 Don't panic. This is a robbery. 1098 01:00:46,517 --> 01:00:50,563 [Steve] Scott walks in first, sets the motion of getting everybody in place, 1099 01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:52,023 and then Mark comes in, 1100 01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:54,567 and he starts directing the patrons in there. 1101 01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:56,569 [Mark] You're not even afraid. 1102 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:59,155 You've rehearsed it in your mind and you've done it before, 1103 01:00:59,238 --> 01:01:00,238 and so you do it. 1104 01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:05,036 My worst nightmare. Not one Hollywood, but two, walk through the door. 1105 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,955 And shit just hit the fan. 1106 01:01:08,623 --> 01:01:12,460 So I started pulling up the bill trap, which sets off an alarm. 1107 01:01:13,586 --> 01:01:14,754 Who's the vault teller? 1108 01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:17,799 So I said, "Well, that's me." 1109 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:20,093 So we both went back, 1110 01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:24,889 and the vault can open with a special duress combination 1111 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,685 that activated another alarm. 1112 01:01:28,768 --> 01:01:30,561 [tense music playing] 1113 01:01:30,645 --> 01:01:36,943 I wanted every fucking law enforcement agency in Seattle there, 1114 01:01:37,026 --> 01:01:39,112 and there as quick as possible. 1115 01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:43,449 [Mike] The office was a ghost town. Nobody was there. Lights were out. 1116 01:01:44,117 --> 01:01:47,245 [Ellen] I'm at my desk, just trying to tie up some loose ends. 1117 01:01:47,328 --> 01:01:49,914 [Mike] We're monitoring the Seattle police radio 1118 01:01:49,997 --> 01:01:51,416 when the tones go out. 1119 01:01:51,499 --> 01:01:53,543 And you hear this beep, beep, beep. 1120 01:01:54,252 --> 01:01:56,963 They're in there for two minutes, three minutes, five minutes. 1121 01:01:57,046 --> 01:01:59,757 I don't hear anything from Mustang. Everything is cool. 1122 01:01:59,841 --> 01:02:01,384 And then finally I get the radio. 1123 01:02:01,467 --> 01:02:04,178 [dispatch] We have two suspects who entered the bank with hats on. 1124 01:02:04,262 --> 01:02:05,388 Long green coats, 1125 01:02:05,471 --> 01:02:08,850 wearing white pancake style makeup on their faces. 1126 01:02:08,933 --> 01:02:12,812 [Scott Levine] I hear someone calling in over a radio, "You've been seen." 1127 01:02:15,773 --> 01:02:17,292 - He was not calm. - Get in here. Help! 1128 01:02:17,316 --> 01:02:20,278 [Scott Levine] He was angry. He wanted in, he wanted out. 1129 01:02:20,361 --> 01:02:21,696 He meant business. 1130 01:02:21,779 --> 01:02:23,281 [Scott] Let's go, let's go, let's go! 1131 01:02:26,117 --> 01:02:28,286 [Scott Levine] I dumped the ProNet into the bag. 1132 01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:31,914 As he has a gun aimed at me, 1133 01:02:31,998 --> 01:02:35,376 I'm thinking, "Is he gonna come back and shoot me?" 1134 01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:36,544 [keys tapping] 1135 01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:38,880 Mike runs by and he says, 1136 01:02:38,963 --> 01:02:40,715 "A bank's been hit. I think it's Hollywood." 1137 01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:43,092 [Mike] We ran to the car, turn on the lights, 1138 01:02:43,176 --> 01:02:46,220 turned on the siren and took off down Second Avenue. 1139 01:02:47,054 --> 01:02:48,814 [Shawn] I leave my office about five o'clock, 1140 01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:50,141 thinking the day's over with. 1141 01:02:50,641 --> 01:02:53,436 I walk into the kitchen of my house, my pager goes off. 1142 01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:55,521 I looked down. It was Hollywood. 1143 01:02:56,773 --> 01:03:00,318 [Mark] Scott was in the vault for a little too long, I thought. 1144 01:03:00,401 --> 01:03:02,820 But then here he comes bounding out of that area, 1145 01:03:03,404 --> 01:03:06,657 and he had this great big duffle bag, which I took immediately. 1146 01:03:07,909 --> 01:03:11,287 I'm grabbing the 1,080,000 in this duffle bag. 1147 01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:12,455 [tense music playing] 1148 01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:17,877 - [sirens wailing] - By this point, we can hear the sirens. 1149 01:03:18,544 --> 01:03:22,340 And that's when we noticed that there were cops everywhere. 1150 01:03:22,423 --> 01:03:23,758 Thick as flies. 1151 01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,052 [sirens continue wailing] 1152 01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:28,888 [Steve] Scott yells, "Steve, maybe we should just abort right now." 1153 01:03:28,971 --> 01:03:30,014 "Let's just quit." 1154 01:03:30,097 --> 01:03:31,891 I say, "What the fuck are you talking about?" 1155 01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:34,602 "Let's go! Get this shit done. Get these tracers out." 1156 01:03:34,685 --> 01:03:36,854 I was driving that fucking car like it was stolen. 1157 01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:40,817 We were getting updates constantly from the chief dispatcher. 1158 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,902 Two suspects armed with handguns, 1159 01:03:43,444 --> 01:03:46,447 but I'm trying to focus on the tracking devices that left the bank. 1160 01:03:46,531 --> 01:03:48,950 [Mike] Do we have any signs going at all at this time? 1161 01:03:49,450 --> 01:03:51,661 [dispatch] Wedgwood and Lake City are both hot. 1162 01:03:52,161 --> 01:03:53,913 [Shawn] I'm following this tracking device. 1163 01:03:53,996 --> 01:03:55,706 It's hitting different areas of the city, 1164 01:03:55,790 --> 01:03:58,084 different antennas, hot and cold, hot and cold. 1165 01:03:58,167 --> 01:03:59,919 I'm trying to follow that signal. 1166 01:04:00,002 --> 01:04:01,838 Finally Scott yelled out, "I got one!" 1167 01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:03,381 He gave me two $20 bills 1168 01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:05,508 that were glued together with the ProNet tag, 1169 01:04:05,591 --> 01:04:08,094 and I threw it out the window and kept going down the street. 1170 01:04:08,177 --> 01:04:10,471 [Mike] An officer pops up on the radio and says, 1171 01:04:10,555 --> 01:04:13,140 "I'm starting to get a real strong indication here." 1172 01:04:13,224 --> 01:04:14,433 I roll up on the scene 1173 01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:18,187 and found on the street the tracking device discarded. 1174 01:04:18,271 --> 01:04:20,481 And immediately, I said, "Oh, shit." 1175 01:04:21,399 --> 01:04:24,318 But I knew there's one more tracking unit still out there. 1176 01:04:25,194 --> 01:04:28,614 They were back there working. I said, "Biggins, straighten your mind up." 1177 01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:31,534 "Get the fucking shit going. Don't be afraid. Just get it done." 1178 01:04:32,451 --> 01:04:36,581 [Mark] It was such a panic with all the police out buzzing around. 1179 01:04:36,664 --> 01:04:38,583 We knew that they were hunting us. 1180 01:04:38,666 --> 01:04:42,503 We had taken $1,080,000 out of the bank 1181 01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:46,048 and it was too difficult to find the tracking devices. 1182 01:04:47,049 --> 01:04:49,302 [sirens wailing] 1183 01:04:49,385 --> 01:04:54,223 All of a sudden my display lights up and goes, "Poof!" It's game day. Showtime. 1184 01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:56,309 [dramatic music playing] 1185 01:04:58,185 --> 01:05:01,188 [Steve] Scott said, "Pull over. I want to drive. I know better where...' 1186 01:05:01,272 --> 01:05:03,900 I said, "I know where I'm going. Just do what you gotta do." 1187 01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:04,901 And he was stubborn. 1188 01:05:04,984 --> 01:05:06,068 [Scott] Get over here! 1189 01:05:06,152 --> 01:05:09,280 [Steve] And I finally said, "Okay," and I looked behind my driver's seat, 1190 01:05:09,363 --> 01:05:11,115 and there was this pile of money. 1191 01:05:11,198 --> 01:05:13,826 And they didn't have any order to what they were doing, 1192 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:16,662 and I go, "Oh my God. Oh my fucking God." 1193 01:05:17,622 --> 01:05:19,790 [Scott] Just drive! What are you doing? Let's go! 1194 01:05:19,874 --> 01:05:21,834 I'm still a ways back. I need to get there. 1195 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:23,336 It's my case. I need to be there. 1196 01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:26,578 [Mike] I'm listening to the tone and it's going, "Eeee." 1197 01:05:26,631 --> 01:05:28,174 And I'm following the display 1198 01:05:28,257 --> 01:05:30,551 and it's guiding me in towards this white van. 1199 01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:33,220 And I shut off all my lights 1200 01:05:33,304 --> 01:05:34,847 and I'm just following the display 1201 01:05:34,931 --> 01:05:37,391 right towards the rear end of this Chevy van. 1202 01:05:38,976 --> 01:05:42,188 I could see there was condensation on the back windows. 1203 01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:45,733 [Ellen] And we could see lights through the back window. 1204 01:05:45,816 --> 01:05:47,026 It looked very odd. 1205 01:05:47,568 --> 01:05:50,237 So we knew they were scouring through the money. 1206 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,824 I said, "Radio, we're gonna be doing a felony car stop." 1207 01:05:53,908 --> 01:05:55,910 [Mike] We're gonna have to do a felony stop here. 1208 01:05:55,993 --> 01:05:57,328 I'd like to have more units. 1209 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,123 [Steve] And so Scott, as he pulls up, we're on a little knoll, 1210 01:06:01,207 --> 01:06:03,459 he pulled up to the street to turn left. 1211 01:06:03,542 --> 01:06:05,836 And as he turned left, I saw the cop cars. 1212 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,296 Three cop cars behind us. 1213 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:11,342 [Mike] The van coasted to a stop against the curb. 1214 01:06:11,425 --> 01:06:15,888 As I was getting out of the car and drawing my pistol and going on target, 1215 01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:21,811 I realized that the suspect was already out of the van. 1216 01:06:21,894 --> 01:06:24,897 The police have always said we shot first. It didn't happen that way. 1217 01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:27,650 They were the ones that ambushed us and began shooting at us. 1218 01:06:27,733 --> 01:06:30,861 Meyers' mouth is moving again, so he's obviously lying. 1219 01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:32,989 Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. 1220 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,995 I could see, along the driver's side door, a silhouette, 1221 01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:42,498 and it was dark, but I could see they had a rifle. 1222 01:06:43,332 --> 01:06:46,961 And I saw the rifle come down on me. 1223 01:06:47,044 --> 01:06:48,045 [Ellen] I didn't see it. 1224 01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:50,840 I... I could only see through the front windshield. 1225 01:06:50,923 --> 01:06:53,676 So I never saw anybody get out of the van. 1226 01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:58,764 [Steve] The reason for those guns wasn't to have a shootout with the cops. 1227 01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:00,141 It was to disarm the vehicle. 1228 01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:03,644 No. That rifle was pointed right at me. 1229 01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:06,230 Everything that I was taught was kicking in. 1230 01:07:06,814 --> 01:07:09,108 He went down to take aim at me, 1231 01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:10,776 and I thought, "Oh, shit." 1232 01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:13,404 And for some reason the rifle was not firing. 1233 01:07:13,487 --> 01:07:16,198 And then, "click, click, click." Three clicks. 1234 01:07:16,282 --> 01:07:17,825 I go, "Oh my God." 1235 01:07:18,826 --> 01:07:22,038 Suddenly the cops started shooting into the back of the van. 1236 01:07:23,289 --> 01:07:25,916 I could tell my rounds were going through the back door. 1237 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,504 [Mark] All I remember is getting hit by a bullet, and getting knocked over. 1238 01:07:30,588 --> 01:07:33,716 Suddenly, my left arm just starts flying in front of my face. 1239 01:07:33,799 --> 01:07:37,136 "They fucking shot my arm off! They fucking shot my arm off!" 1240 01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:38,054 I'm screaming. 1241 01:07:38,137 --> 01:07:41,682 And then a little bit further up, Scott stops again and gets a shotgun. 1242 01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:46,020 When we get to that second location, a firefight really ensues. 1243 01:07:46,103 --> 01:07:50,524 As I was getting out of the car to draw down on the van again, 1244 01:07:50,608 --> 01:07:52,568 I heard three of the loudest booms. 1245 01:07:52,651 --> 01:07:54,653 [gunshots] 1246 01:07:54,737 --> 01:07:57,782 [Ellen] There are bullets whizzing by my head. 1247 01:07:57,865 --> 01:08:00,201 All I could see was glass breaking. 1248 01:08:00,284 --> 01:08:05,873 I didn't have my body armor, and I am in the middle of a shitstorm. 1249 01:08:06,624 --> 01:08:09,627 I'm trying to communicate with the FBI office. 1250 01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:11,754 I'm telling 'em, "Shots fired." 1251 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:15,049 [Mike] The van takes off again. 1252 01:08:15,132 --> 01:08:17,468 [Steve] My left arm is just floating in the air. 1253 01:08:17,551 --> 01:08:19,553 Biggins is shot in the abdomen. 1254 01:08:19,637 --> 01:08:20,637 Blood everywhere. 1255 01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:23,849 And then suddenly the van comes to a thud. Boom. 1256 01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:25,059 [van crashes] 1257 01:08:27,728 --> 01:08:30,106 As I lay in the back of the van, Scott runs off. 1258 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:32,483 I'm thinking, "This is what we always spoke about." 1259 01:08:32,566 --> 01:08:34,527 We were all in this on our own. 1260 01:08:35,236 --> 01:08:37,488 [Mike] As I was running towards the vehicle, 1261 01:08:37,571 --> 01:08:41,742 I'm seeing a silhouette of a body running south in an alley. 1262 01:08:43,202 --> 01:08:45,579 [Steve] The wipers were going, it was still in gear, 1263 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,832 and Biggins is not saying a word, 1264 01:08:47,915 --> 01:08:50,167 so I don't know if he's alive or if he's dead. 1265 01:08:50,751 --> 01:08:51,751 And Scott's gone 1266 01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:54,130 and all I could hear were all the cops yelling, 1267 01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:55,714 "He's gone. He's running over there." 1268 01:08:55,798 --> 01:08:58,050 "Shoot that motherfucker! Kill him! Kill him!" 1269 01:08:59,426 --> 01:09:01,262 I went to the alley and I... I stopped. 1270 01:09:01,345 --> 01:09:04,807 I thought, "Don't go down this alley. This is what we call the Fatal Funnel. 1271 01:09:05,933 --> 01:09:08,894 At that point I realized I should back off and go back to the van 1272 01:09:08,978 --> 01:09:11,856 where other officers had two suspects down. 1273 01:09:12,481 --> 01:09:14,942 And I saw this white male down on the ground handcuffed. 1274 01:09:15,025 --> 01:09:16,902 I said, "Who are you? Are you Hollywood?" 1275 01:09:16,986 --> 01:09:19,405 And he says, "No. He ran down the alley." 1276 01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:22,158 I said, "Shoot me, son of a bitch. You were doing it a minute ago." 1277 01:09:22,241 --> 01:09:24,034 "Just shoot me. Kill me, get it over with." 1278 01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:28,080 He said, "Don't worry about it. The courts will take care of your ass." 1279 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:31,458 When he told me to shoot him, I said, "No. You're not getting out of this one." 1280 01:09:31,542 --> 01:09:32,960 "We beat you at your game." 1281 01:09:35,045 --> 01:09:36,589 [Steve] I didn't want to go to prison. 1282 01:09:36,672 --> 01:09:40,467 I mean, at that point nothing mattered. Life was over as far as I was concerned. 1283 01:09:41,385 --> 01:09:44,346 And suddenly, the fear and the pain and all that goes away, 1284 01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:47,224 and I looked in the van and I saw this pile of money 1285 01:09:47,308 --> 01:09:49,602 and all the bullet holes that the cops put in the van 1286 01:09:49,685 --> 01:09:51,687 were like laser beams of light. 1287 01:09:53,105 --> 01:09:56,567 And suddenly, this beautiful divine music came into my head. 1288 01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:58,777 I'd never heard earthly music like it. 1289 01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,616 And the money became almost like this talisman of... 1290 01:10:04,325 --> 01:10:07,870 "What is it? It's a bunch of paper. Who gives a shit?" 1291 01:10:07,953 --> 01:10:09,747 "Who does what people do 1292 01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:13,292 for this stupid stuff that has no meaning, really?" 1293 01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:15,377 [ethereal music playing] 1294 01:10:19,506 --> 01:10:22,092 [Mike] The Fire Department was at the scene treating Biggins, 1295 01:10:22,176 --> 01:10:24,887 and he was motionless like he was dead on the ground. 1296 01:10:25,804 --> 01:10:28,933 As I was looking at him, the firefighter looked up at me and he went... 1297 01:10:29,433 --> 01:10:33,312 He gave me a thumbs down. I thought, "Oh, shit. I just killed somebody." 1298 01:10:33,854 --> 01:10:38,067 I took a deep breath and I said to myself, "This is something I never thought about." 1299 01:10:39,109 --> 01:10:43,530 I'd been in one previous shooting, but I was not in a shooting like this. 1300 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:44,782 This was a shootout. 1301 01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:50,454 [Mark] Outside of the van, I was in and out of consciousness. 1302 01:10:51,497 --> 01:10:54,667 I remember Mike Magan opening one of my eyelids, 1303 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:57,044 checking to see if I was living or dead. 1304 01:10:57,670 --> 01:11:02,216 I remembered having a sense of relief that it's finally over. 1305 01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:07,388 I can let it go now. I don't have to live like this anymore. 1306 01:11:10,349 --> 01:11:13,102 [reporter 1] The two men who were shot were taken into custody 1307 01:11:13,185 --> 01:11:14,853 and then taken to the hospital. 1308 01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:16,647 One man remains at large. 1309 01:11:16,730 --> 01:11:19,483 [reporter 2] Dozens of officers, FBI agents, K-9 units, 1310 01:11:19,566 --> 01:11:22,486 even the SWAT team were called in to look for the fugitive. 1311 01:11:22,569 --> 01:11:26,073 Especially if somebody's still on the loose, that's a scary thing. 1312 01:11:26,156 --> 01:11:27,408 They could be anywhere. 1313 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:32,913 [Shawn] I follow the ambulance down to Harborview Hospital. 1314 01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:36,267 I would deal with the crime scene later. I need to talk to Steve 1315 01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:39,086 and find out who else we were looking for that night. 1316 01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:42,339 This is it. I'm not putting up with this anymore. This has gotta be the closure. 1317 01:11:44,425 --> 01:11:46,552 [Steve] In the waiting room in the hospital, 1318 01:11:46,635 --> 01:11:49,346 Shawn Johnson asked me questions. 1319 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:53,309 And if you can imagine me being shot up and I'm in a situation, here we are, 1320 01:11:53,392 --> 01:11:55,728 Scott's on the loose, I don't know if he's dead or alive, 1321 01:11:57,021 --> 01:11:58,230 Biggins might die. 1322 01:11:59,148 --> 01:12:00,607 Your mind is not clear. 1323 01:12:01,608 --> 01:12:03,944 So I'm trying to protect myself. 1324 01:12:05,237 --> 01:12:07,406 After two hours, Steve Meyers finally tells me 1325 01:12:07,489 --> 01:12:10,326 that the person I'm looking for is Scott Scurlock. 1326 01:12:10,951 --> 01:12:12,619 He said Scott Scurlock is Hollywood. 1327 01:12:13,871 --> 01:12:15,456 [dispatch] Seattle Police and Fire 19. 1328 01:12:15,539 --> 01:12:18,667 [man] Yeah, I know they're doing a search in our neighborhood. 1329 01:12:18,751 --> 01:12:21,337 - [dispatch] Yeah. - [man] Somebody just pounded on our door. 1330 01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:23,464 [woman 1] There is a canoe with a tarp over it. 1331 01:12:23,547 --> 01:12:24,381 [dispatch] Uh-huh. 1332 01:12:24,465 --> 01:12:26,592 [woman 1] I don't know if anybody should check it. 1333 01:12:26,675 --> 01:12:29,887 [woman 2] I didn't see anybody, but I'm thinking that, um, under my deck 1334 01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:31,347 would be a good hiding place. 1335 01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:35,142 I keep hearing that the officers are going door-to-door 1336 01:12:35,225 --> 01:12:37,478 throughout the night and throughout the day, 1337 01:12:37,561 --> 01:12:39,271 trying to find some lead. 1338 01:12:39,355 --> 01:12:40,397 Nothing is turning up. 1339 01:12:40,481 --> 01:12:44,526 [woman 3] I'm just wondering, in my area there's police all over and helicopters... 1340 01:12:44,610 --> 01:12:46,570 [dispatch] Right, you need to stay inside, ma'am, 1341 01:12:46,653 --> 01:12:50,115 and, uh, try not to tie up the emergency lines with calls. 1342 01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:52,242 When I learned that Hollywood had escaped, 1343 01:12:52,326 --> 01:12:56,080 I was angered because so much work had gone in to try to apprehend him. 1344 01:12:56,163 --> 01:12:59,708 The only word that kept coming to my mind is, "Fuck. Really?" 1345 01:12:59,792 --> 01:13:03,379 Hollywood was right there. How did he get away? 1346 01:13:04,755 --> 01:13:06,757 [suspenseful music playing] 1347 01:13:09,635 --> 01:13:13,764 [Mike] For the next several hours, I was walking around with nervous energy 1348 01:13:13,847 --> 01:13:15,265 when my pager went off. 1349 01:13:15,849 --> 01:13:20,020 [man] I think that bank robber might be hiding in my camper in the backyard. 1350 01:13:20,104 --> 01:13:21,744 [dispatch] And what makes you think that? 1351 01:13:21,814 --> 01:13:24,108 [man] I saw somebody's in there and it's all locked up 1352 01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:26,110 and nobody's supposed to be in there. 1353 01:13:26,193 --> 01:13:29,530 It was my old partner and he said to me, 1354 01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:33,409 "They have your suspect cornered right near the shooting scene." 1355 01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:35,994 [dispatch] Could you tell if it was male or female? 1356 01:13:36,078 --> 01:13:37,621 [man] No, I just saw some dark hair. 1357 01:13:38,205 --> 01:13:41,291 - [dispatch] Okay. How long ago? - [man] I just came in, right now. 1358 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:46,088 [Mike] The officers are dispatched to the camper. 1359 01:13:46,713 --> 01:13:49,049 They're pounding on the camper, trying to see who's inside. 1360 01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:51,760 So they bust the window and spray in pepper spray. 1361 01:13:52,344 --> 01:13:54,638 And a moment later they hear a single gunshot. 1362 01:13:54,721 --> 01:13:55,556 [gunshot] 1363 01:13:55,639 --> 01:13:58,100 [Mike] The officers fire back into the camper. 1364 01:13:58,183 --> 01:14:05,149 - [gunshots] - [smashing glass] 1365 01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:09,820 I was told that 76 rounds had been fired into the camper 1366 01:14:09,903 --> 01:14:11,822 by officers who were at the scene. 1367 01:14:14,491 --> 01:14:15,576 {\an8}[David] Good evening. 1368 01:14:15,659 --> 01:14:17,995 {\an8}Thanksgiving has been interrupted for dozens of families. 1369 01:14:18,078 --> 01:14:19,204 It's a police standoff, 1370 01:14:19,288 --> 01:14:22,416 and the suspect may be the bank robber known as Hollywood. 1371 01:14:22,499 --> 01:14:24,460 [reporter] Right now, Hollywood the bank robber, 1372 01:14:24,543 --> 01:14:27,463 one of the luckiest, most prolific in the country, 1373 01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,214 looks like his luck has run out. 1374 01:14:30,132 --> 01:14:32,050 [tense music playing] 1375 01:14:32,885 --> 01:14:34,052 [Mike] As I was arriving, 1376 01:14:34,136 --> 01:14:36,472 Seattle police was getting there simultaneously 1377 01:14:36,555 --> 01:14:39,391 with their armored vehicles and setting up a command post. 1378 01:14:39,892 --> 01:14:42,603 [Shawn] We had helicopters. We had armored vehicles. 1379 01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:46,815 There were probably a couple of hundred law enforcement officers there that day. 1380 01:14:46,899 --> 01:14:48,734 I'd never seen such a huge response. 1381 01:14:48,817 --> 01:14:50,152 This is Thanksgiving Day. 1382 01:14:50,235 --> 01:14:53,447 The whole city is at home with their families 1383 01:14:53,530 --> 01:14:56,408 and able to watch what's happening on TV. 1384 01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:59,536 Not only does the entire neighborhood come out, 1385 01:14:59,620 --> 01:15:01,872 but if you live near that neighborhood, you come out. 1386 01:15:02,372 --> 01:15:04,541 People come to see what is happening, 1387 01:15:04,625 --> 01:15:07,211 especially when something that's almost like a movie 1388 01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:08,921 is so close to their homes. 1389 01:15:09,004 --> 01:15:12,424 [David] I mean, a quiet North Seattle neighborhood, 1390 01:15:12,508 --> 01:15:16,303 and you have hundreds of police, the SWAT team. 1391 01:15:17,179 --> 01:15:19,014 All this happening on Thanksgiving. 1392 01:15:19,097 --> 01:15:21,141 A Thanksgiving that nobody's going to forget. 1393 01:15:21,850 --> 01:15:24,102 Our last of our guests were leaving 1394 01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:27,397 and I got a call from my Aunt Helen who lives in Seattle, 1395 01:15:27,481 --> 01:15:29,608 and she was hysterical. 1396 01:15:29,691 --> 01:15:30,771 [reporter] Our top story... 1397 01:15:30,817 --> 01:15:34,196 [Suzanne] It was all over the Seattle news that there was this police shootout 1398 01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,823 with this bandit named Scott Scurlock, 1399 01:15:36,907 --> 01:15:40,285 and there's a SWAT team around this little trailer 1400 01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:42,287 in this lady's backyard. 1401 01:15:42,371 --> 01:15:46,959 And then I, at that point, sat down 1402 01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:50,963 and just said... [exhales] "Whoa. Whoa." 1403 01:15:51,046 --> 01:15:52,631 It was just so mind-blowing 1404 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:57,594 to find out that he's been robbing banks for five years. 1405 01:15:58,512 --> 01:16:00,192 {\an8}[reporter 1] People are out of their homes, 1406 01:16:00,264 --> 01:16:03,642 {\an8}their Thanksgiving disrupted by this, uh, police manhunt 1407 01:16:03,725 --> 01:16:05,185 {\an8}that has been going on now 1408 01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:07,479 {\an8}for more than 24 hours in this neighborhood. 1409 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:10,607 {\an8}[reporter 2] Police and FBI agents have been in standoff mode, 1410 01:16:10,691 --> 01:16:13,110 {\an8}guns drawn, and negotiators in place. 1411 01:16:13,193 --> 01:16:15,237 [David] The standoff is still underway. 1412 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,447 We know that shots have been fired. 1413 01:16:17,531 --> 01:16:20,867 They've been banging on the door. They've tried to contact him. They can't. 1414 01:16:22,244 --> 01:16:24,663 They wanted this to end in the way they wanted it to end. 1415 01:16:24,746 --> 01:16:26,186 They weren't gonna take any chances. 1416 01:16:28,083 --> 01:16:32,546 {\an8}[Shawn] And after two hours of no response we decided to make entry into the camper. 1417 01:16:32,629 --> 01:16:34,631 [tense music playing] 1418 01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:39,011 [Shawn] I walk in with the Tactical Team. 1419 01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:41,972 We found a body underneath the table. 1420 01:16:43,557 --> 01:16:45,892 I had a picture with me. I look down. 1421 01:16:45,976 --> 01:16:47,978 [tense music continues] 1422 01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:50,187 Scott. 1423 01:16:50,981 --> 01:16:53,609 At that point, I knew that it was... We had him. 1424 01:16:54,234 --> 01:16:56,737 And turned out that he had killed himself. 1425 01:16:56,820 --> 01:16:59,948 That first shot the officers heard was him killing himself. 1426 01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:06,496 [reporter] Good evening. 1427 01:17:06,580 --> 01:17:10,000 {\an8}A suspected bank robber who died yesterday during a standoff with police 1428 01:17:10,083 --> 01:17:11,877 apparently killed himself. 1429 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,046 {\an8}[David] Scott Scurlock, who police dubbed Hollywood, 1430 01:17:14,129 --> 01:17:15,922 {\an8}was found dead in a camper last night... 1431 01:17:16,006 --> 01:17:19,092 {\an8}[Steve] I woke up the next morning in the hospital and the TV was going 1432 01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:23,680 and the news was carpeted with us, 1433 01:17:23,764 --> 01:17:28,977 and my name and Scott Scurlock from Olympia, Washington, deceased. 1434 01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:31,271 A self-inflicted wound. 1435 01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:35,067 And, uh, I kind of looked and I just go... 1436 01:17:37,235 --> 01:17:39,154 "Thank God," you know. I just said, "Thank God." 1437 01:17:41,615 --> 01:17:43,241 The shootout was the end. 1438 01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:48,121 Not only the end of our endeavors, but the end of a certain life that I had. 1439 01:17:50,874 --> 01:17:53,168 We were like two comets that came together 1440 01:17:53,251 --> 01:17:57,589 and we met up and we started flying through the fucking universe 1441 01:17:57,673 --> 01:18:00,884 and suddenly, boom! It's all busted up in one second. 1442 01:18:00,967 --> 01:18:02,010 It's gone. 1443 01:18:06,223 --> 01:18:09,935 [Ellen] I feel like this episode tested me in every possible way. 1444 01:18:11,561 --> 01:18:14,398 I was thinking about my kids when the shooting started, 1445 01:18:15,065 --> 01:18:17,776 and wondering, you know, am I doing the right thing 1446 01:18:17,859 --> 01:18:20,779 by doing this job when there's a lot of other jobs 1447 01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:22,489 I could be doing in the FBI? 1448 01:18:22,572 --> 01:18:24,574 [somber music playing] 1449 01:18:25,492 --> 01:18:28,787 [Mike] A day doesn't go by where you don't think about it. 1450 01:18:30,122 --> 01:18:34,626 My only question to him would probably be, "Why did you take your life?" 1451 01:18:36,086 --> 01:18:37,504 And I'll quote Mark Twain, 1452 01:18:37,587 --> 01:18:41,133 and Mark Twain said that he would never wish death upon a man, 1453 01:18:41,216 --> 01:18:43,677 but he's read some obituaries with great pleasure. 1454 01:18:46,304 --> 01:18:48,724 [Shawn] The major regret I have in this investigation 1455 01:18:48,807 --> 01:18:51,560 is the fact I never got to sit down with Scott 1456 01:18:51,643 --> 01:18:54,646 and talk to him face-to-face, man-to-man. 1457 01:18:56,690 --> 01:18:59,901 If I had been in the vehicle that night, in front of that pursuit line, 1458 01:18:59,985 --> 01:19:02,738 would I have done what Mike did, shoot into the back of that van? No. 1459 01:19:02,821 --> 01:19:06,950 There's always another day to catch him. Seriously, there's always another day. 1460 01:19:07,033 --> 01:19:09,369 [somber music continues] 1461 01:19:09,453 --> 01:19:10,454 [camera clicking] 1462 01:19:13,206 --> 01:19:15,417 [Suzanne] It was heartbreaking for the whole family. 1463 01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:18,128 It was almost like a... like a double whammy of... of, 1464 01:19:18,211 --> 01:19:22,215 "Whoa. He was doing what? He ended up here?" 1465 01:19:23,592 --> 01:19:28,138 My father adored Scott and was heartbroken. 1466 01:19:28,221 --> 01:19:31,767 Not only that we lost him. We also lost who we thought he was. 1467 01:19:32,476 --> 01:19:34,644 [Scott's father] I miss being able to love him. 1468 01:19:35,228 --> 01:19:37,689 I miss being loved by him. 1469 01:19:38,732 --> 01:19:41,234 And he really genuinely loved me. 1470 01:19:41,318 --> 01:19:43,487 I don't think there's any question about that at all. 1471 01:19:43,570 --> 01:19:46,656 And I loved him dearly. No matter what he was like. 1472 01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:50,160 The number of secrets he had about the life he had been leading 1473 01:19:50,243 --> 01:19:51,578 were so huge 1474 01:19:52,412 --> 01:19:57,542 that if he had walked out of that trailer, put his hands in the air, and surrendered, 1475 01:19:58,043 --> 01:20:01,421 he would have had to have faced his entire world. 1476 01:20:02,339 --> 01:20:06,343 And I honestly believe that the last decade of his life, 1477 01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:11,348 he was making choices that he knew were gonna come down to a dead end. 1478 01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,769 [Steven] I received a call. 1479 01:20:16,394 --> 01:20:18,897 "Scotty's died. He died in a bank robbery." 1480 01:20:19,397 --> 01:20:22,150 My mind immediately went into, 1481 01:20:22,234 --> 01:20:25,320 "He was trying to stop the bank robbery. He was being the hero." 1482 01:20:25,403 --> 01:20:28,865 {\an8}And so I asked the question. "Well, how did he die in the bank robbery?" 1483 01:20:28,949 --> 01:20:31,993 {\an8}And the answer came back that he was the bank robber. 1484 01:20:32,661 --> 01:20:35,247 It felt like my heart and my brain exploded. 1485 01:20:35,330 --> 01:20:39,584 [Steve] When I was in prison, Mustang visited me four or five times. 1486 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:43,046 She would always come on the anniversary, the day before Thanksgiving. 1487 01:20:43,129 --> 01:20:44,714 She'd always think of Scott. 1488 01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:49,386 And I got a letter from her sister, said that she'd committed suicide. 1489 01:20:50,178 --> 01:20:53,640 She just couldn't bear the fact that all that she'd been involved with 1490 01:20:53,723 --> 01:20:55,976 over the years with Scott and me, 1491 01:20:56,059 --> 01:20:59,813 and that suddenly he's dead and I'm in prison for all these years, 1492 01:20:59,896 --> 01:21:02,190 and that she is walking free. 1493 01:21:02,274 --> 01:21:04,985 It's like, she's not walking free in her own soul. 1494 01:21:05,068 --> 01:21:07,445 I don't think she believed she was walking free. 1495 01:21:08,572 --> 01:21:11,199 {\an8}[T.J.] Steve Meyers, who used to go to Shakespeare plays 1496 01:21:11,283 --> 01:21:12,576 {\an8}with my husband and I. 1497 01:21:13,243 --> 01:21:14,578 {\an8}He's going to prison. 1498 01:21:14,661 --> 01:21:16,246 We have Mark Biggins. 1499 01:21:16,788 --> 01:21:19,875 Sensitive guy. Poet, guitar player. 1500 01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:23,336 He's going to prison. Blows my mind. 1501 01:21:24,129 --> 01:21:26,798 People always say, "Oh, you knew the guy in the Treehouse?" 1502 01:21:26,882 --> 01:21:30,385 "You knew Hollywood?" I'd go, "Hey, I didn't know Hollywood." 1503 01:21:30,468 --> 01:21:31,928 "I knew Scott Scurlock." 1504 01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:37,475 [Mark] Scott and I had several discussions about, 1505 01:21:37,559 --> 01:21:39,644 "What are you gonna do if we get caught?" 1506 01:21:41,146 --> 01:21:43,565 And he would always, always say, 1507 01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:47,152 "I'm not going to prison. I'm gonna head for the white light." 1508 01:21:49,613 --> 01:21:51,615 I've read the victim impact statements 1509 01:21:51,698 --> 01:21:57,495 and some bank tellers and some customers in the bank were... were truly traumatized 1510 01:21:57,579 --> 01:22:02,918 by the... the whole experience, and that I regret sincerely. 1511 01:22:03,001 --> 01:22:05,003 [somber music continues] 1512 01:22:07,422 --> 01:22:10,050 [T.J.] Scott had a T-shirt that said "Live Free or Die." 1513 01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:14,012 And I think he spent a lot of years figuring out how to live free. 1514 01:22:15,305 --> 01:22:16,306 But in the end, 1515 01:22:18,058 --> 01:22:20,602 he died and he wasn't free. 1516 01:22:25,607 --> 01:22:26,816 [Steve] After his death, 1517 01:22:27,317 --> 01:22:29,861 the Treehouse died within a year, a year and a half. 1518 01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:31,279 It crumbled and fell. 1519 01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:36,368 I mean, this tree house and Scott were one soul, inseparable. 1520 01:22:37,077 --> 01:22:38,954 And Scott's death was its death. 1521 01:22:40,997 --> 01:22:42,499 And it had to be that way. 1522 01:22:45,627 --> 01:22:49,297 [Mark] After being released from prison, I went back to the Treehouse. 1523 01:22:50,215 --> 01:22:51,675 It looked like a shipwreck. 1524 01:22:52,175 --> 01:22:54,719 It was just a pile of timber. 1525 01:22:55,470 --> 01:23:00,141 And I took some of Scott's ashes and spread them and said goodbye, finally. 1526 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,520 [Scott] I have just finished reading my whole diary 1527 01:23:05,563 --> 01:23:07,482 and it seems like a thing of the past. 1528 01:23:09,192 --> 01:23:11,319 I feel like a completely different person. 1529 01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:14,322 So many things have happened to me 1530 01:23:14,406 --> 01:23:16,616 that there's no way I could write them all down. 1531 01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:22,414 My mind seems to be farther than my body from the earth below. 1532 01:23:24,457 --> 01:23:26,793 I feel excited but scared. 1533 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,757 It is a time of new beginnings. 1534 01:23:41,641 --> 01:23:43,643 [soft rock music playing] 1535 01:26:33,188 --> 01:26:34,188 [music fades] 134912

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