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In the name of the Father,
the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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We are gathered here
in memory of...
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Jacqueline Jeantina Eugenia
Gerarda Wittenberg-Willemen.
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Widow of Willem Cornelis Wittenberg.
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A memory of an intensely involved
and caring person...
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and to an almost
incomprehensible event.
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A murder.
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Mr Louwes, what
do you expect from today?
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Sure.
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- What do you expect from the verdict?
- Do you still believe in it?
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Mr Louwes, are you nervous?
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Mr Louwes.
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- What will you hear today?
- Eh, acquittal of course.
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I still can't believe it.
- No.
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She was such a sweet person. -Yes.
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- Michael must be having a hard time.
- Yes, she was like a mother to him.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the court.
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Then you ask yourself: are the police
doing anything? I live opposite her.
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No one has been at the door.
- The family also doesn't know anything.
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She was killed on Thursday and
they didn't find her until Saturday.
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In the living room.
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The court finds proven...
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that the accused intentionally and
premeditatedly assaulted the victim...
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No, I haven't, ma'am.
- Let me finish.
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...deprived of life.
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Sorry for your loss.
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- My condolences to you too...
- We are friends of the family.
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Who was that?
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Jaqueline's
financial advisor, Louwes.
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The verdict therefore reads: the court
maintains, with improvement of grounds..
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the judgment of the Court of Appeal
in Arnhem of 22 December 2000.
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The court orders the arrest of
the accused.
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You just continue with all the
falsified arguments of the police.
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Mister Louwes...
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You wipe everything away.
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I understand your emotion,
but I haven't finished speaking yet.
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You have two weeks to appeal to
the Supreme Court of the Netherlands.
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- You know you are wrong.
- Are you coming with me?
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No, I'm not coming. No, I'm going...
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I'm not going. Damn.
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The photos and the cameras
are now stopped.
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The Judgement
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2 years earlier
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Yes, but could you please
put me through?
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How so? I didn't come up with it.
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I'm just stating the facts.
The facts, yes.
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Haan, could it be a little quieter?
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How do I get that information?
I'm not going to tell you that
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Never heard of source protection?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Dicknose
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- Did you catch that guy yet?
- No, the same all the time.
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I ask for comments,
they tell me how I got that information.
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I can't say that and so on.
They don't even put me through.
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- And your source has nothing on paper?
- No.
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Do you like soup? -No thanks.
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Bas, do you like soup? -Delicious.
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Maybe a colleague can confirm? -Hey.
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Do you really think he will be
Prime Minister?
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I'd be surprised if he doesn't.
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But with whom can he form a coalition?
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Melkert and Dijkstal can
drink his blood.
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Rosenmöller and De Graaf
cannot sell it to their supporters.
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- Balkenende?
- Yes, the CDA would be an option.
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And what do you think, Bas?
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Bizarre.
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What?
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Do you have something nice for me?
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Who are those people,
that Waisvisz couple?
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Involved citizens.
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That attorney will file a review request
based on their investigation.
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They are handwriting experts.
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They work a lot for the judiciary,
but they do this themselves.
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Yes.
And now you want...
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Find out if it's correct.
If it is true...
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If that knife cannot
be the murder weapon
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then L. is
innocently imprisoned.
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Yes, but that story
is already in Trouw.
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Do you hear anything?
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Have you read
anything else about it?
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Apparently it wasn't picked up.
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Because everyone is
busy with those polls.
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If true, someone
innocent is incarcerated.
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- You already said that.
- Yes, but...
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It is well. It's okay.
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You may.
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According to Maurice de Hond,
the LPF will be the largest...
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in the parliamentary elections.
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Our question today: is Pim Fortuyn a
good prime minister? Good afternoon...
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- Good day.
- Hello, Ed Waisvisz.
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- I'm Wanda.
- Bas Haan.
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See what you can do with it.
Our report is on top.
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This is from the criminal file.
How did you get that?
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Van Louwes' lawyer.
We are working with him now.
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Do you also have this digitally?
- Uh-uh.
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We are not into modern frills.
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Can I copy it and show it
to someone else?
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Okay.
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And...
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There was also another suspect.
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Michaël de Jong, the widow's handyman.
He lied about his alibi.
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And he had knowledge about the
perpetrator.
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He knew the body was in the living room
and told people that...
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at her own funeral.
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He's building a case
against the suspect...
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which he eventually brings to court.
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Yet the public prosecutor is not a
crime fighter, as in American films.
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In the Dutch legal system,
the Public Prosecution Service is…
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unlike in most neighboring countries...
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both truth finder and crook catcher.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
in the back someone has just joined us.
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Network Editor, Bas Haan.
Specialized in our rule of law.
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And not so very long ago student,
as yourself.
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- Hey, Bas.
- Peter.
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What did you bring again?
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I'm not saying anything,
you have to look at it cleanly.
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It's a box,
that's as far as I dare go.
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That's why I always ask you.
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You don't believe that, do you?
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Look here.
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Short time after the robbery
and at a short distance from the house.
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In fact, three days later
and a mile away.
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The knife is not properly secured,
has been in the rain for days...
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and is linked to Louwes
via a very dubious odor test.
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In addition, the blade does not
match the depth of the stab wounds.
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In nine sentences they explained in
Arnhem why Louwes is the perpetrator.
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And everything is
linked to that knife.
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And that telephone tower.
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- I'm going after that too.
- And the other suspect?
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- The handyman?
- Yes, are you going after that?
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No
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But that's a suspect, right?
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We shouldn't play judge
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let alone make some
handyman a suspect.
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Louwes has been convicted.
There is a verdict. I can test that.
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If that doesn't work,
we can say something
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about the way the
justice system works.
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Hmm, okay. How long do you need?
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Come on, broadcast schedule, budget...
How long?
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Fortuyn was shot.
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He's laying back here, neatly dressed.
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He's been shot in the head
and he's laying with his feet crossed...
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He dropped to his knees
and fell backwards.
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- Where is it?
- That's here.
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A parking space at 3FM. No idea who...
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I meet upset employees of Ruud de Wild..
They are shaken...
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- Bas Haan.
- Ernest Louwes.
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- Thank you for welcoming me.
- Wanda said you can be trusted.
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Hopefully Wanda is too.
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The third house from the right.
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I live there.
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- Your house is opposite?
- With that green door.
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Bizarre.
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Among the items I received from
Mrs. Waisvisz was this.
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That's my diary.
Yes, I typed everything out.
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- Could I read it?
- Yes of course.
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You have to if you believe in my cause.
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Everything is in there. I wrote
everything down, from the beginning.
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Good.
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I want to start with the court's
assessment of the facts.
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The most important
evidence piece: the knife
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has already been disproved
by the Waisvisz family.
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- That leaves...
- The telephone tower.
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Yes.
Can you tell me more about that?
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Louwes says he was at Het Harde
when he called Mrs Wittenberg.
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Thirty kilometers from Deventer.
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He was with her that morning.
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She asked how much she could donate
to the church tax-free.
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He reported that from the car
at 8:36 pm that evening.
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In 16 seconds?
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With Ernest. You wanted to know how
much you could donate. 1750 guilders.
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Yes, 1750.
Sorry, I'm in the car, so I'll be brief.
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Yes. See you soon.
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14 seconds.
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- No.
- Come on, Rein. It's possible right?
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No one believes that
the knife is the weapon.
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It is possible, but it
doesn't have to.
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That telephone mast is almost
in that woman's backyard.
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How do you explain that?
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Increased radio propagation.
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- Increased what?
- Radio propagation.
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Sometimes a signal drifts.
I spoke to an expert...
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It's okay, Bas.
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- Coffee?
- Please.
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You have never seen this?
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Nee.
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Here it is.
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The police in Deventer
questioned me about
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the smell identification
test of the knife.
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They asked me for a kind of
second opinion.
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And I then indicated by letter what was
unclear about the test execution.
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Don't look into the camera
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and try to incorporate the questions
into your answers.
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First the smell test and then
point by point.
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But in court you stated that you found
the smell test strong evidence.
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Yes, because the reports
I saw then were in order.
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- Ready?
- Er, yes.
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It looks like they used that letter...
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to improve the original reports.
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- Did they cheat?
- Yes.
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Mister van Koppen, as an expert in the
field of miscarriages of justice
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how do you view
the conviction of Ernest L.?
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If you put the reports side by side,
the numbers don't match.
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There are weird dates.
Subsequent reports were drawn up.
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It is unclear where
the knife was kept and stored.
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And then you are not
allowed to do a sorting test.
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Dog handlers are expected
to check this. That didn't happen.
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Nice.
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Just a voice-over and the presentation
text for Aart and we're good to go.
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Good job, Haan.
This is going to cause quite a stir.
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Ernest L. was sentenced to 12 years in
prison for murder in Deventer.
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It now appears with
very questionable evidence.
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After his conviction on appeal
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an independent agency conducted
an investigation...
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and came with damning conclusions about…
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If the bookkeeper didn't do it,
then who did?
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Didn't that widow have a butler?
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Ah, there he is. Louwes?
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Louwes? Mister Louwes?
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Are you happy that your
case is being reviewed?
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Come on. Watch your head.
Watch out guys. Watch out, watch out.
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Watch your fingers.
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Bas, what are you doing man?
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Goddamn.
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Here it is.
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Papa.
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Hey honey.
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- I missed you so much.
- Oh, baby.
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Oh, honey, how
glad I am to see you.
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Oh, honey. You're out, honey.
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- Honey. We won.
- Ernest.
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- I'll see you later.
- Yes, I'll see you later.
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Bye, honey.
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Sorry.
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A deal is a deal.
You have every right to the scoop.
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I wouldn't be here without you.
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How did you pass the time,
those three years?
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It was fine at first, but I haven't done
anything in the last few months.
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Also unable to do anything.
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- One, close.
- Attention, title Louwes.
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I wrote a little, I read a lot.
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But at some point that
doesn't work anymore.
247
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Interesting, I would expect it the
other way around
248
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At first you think: I'm innocent,
I'll never get out of here, but...
249
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Well, I've always believed it would
turn out alright.
250
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,654
That might sound strange
considering it took that long
251
00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:27,000
but I've always believed that.
252
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:33,156
Perhaps a strange thought, because it
isn't my fault, but someone else's.
253
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And that I happen to be
sitting here today.
254
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- Enjoy your meal.
- Thank you.
255
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Thank you.
256
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Proud?
257
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,440
Don't act like you don't understand me,
asshole.
258
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First day of review
259
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Good luck.
260
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Ladies and gentlemen, the court.
261
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
262
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You can sit down.
263
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Mr. Louwes, we are here to
review your case.
264
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A case that is now known in the media
as the Deventer murder case.
265
00:23:53,734 --> 00:23:59,717
After the knife evidence fell apart,
supporting evidence also lost its power.
266
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,988
Like the telephone conversation via the
mobile phone mast in Deventer...
267
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,184
that made probable that the suspect was
in Deventer around the murder.
268
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,720
The court in Arnhem could therefore not
have come to proven statement...
269
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,840
on the present evidence.
270
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,168
Also not if the evidence is considered
in conjunction with other clues.
271
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,640
However, another NFI report came to my
attention this morning.
272
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And it concerns the
result of a DNA test.
273
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This research shows...
274
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:40,480
that Mr. Louwes' DNA was found
on the victim's clothing.
275
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,280
Namely on the blouse Mrs. Wittenberg
was wearing when she was murdered.
276
00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:50,840
I can't say exactly what the situation
is with the DNA. I just received it.
277
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,412
And I still have to dig into
its consequences.
278
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,327
New DNA Evidence?
279
00:25:00,377 --> 00:25:02,240
The details will come
the next session day.
280
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In a month and a half.
281
00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:07,400
That interview with
Louwes at home is tonight.
282
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,729
Louwes visited the widow
on the morning of the murder
283
00:25:09,779 --> 00:25:11,229
the OM knows that.
284
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,480
If he put a hand on her shoulder,
there's already DNA.
285
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840
- So just broadcast?
- Sure.
286
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,146
The interview is only about
Louwes' experience
287
00:25:20,196 --> 00:25:21,960
what it is like to be free again.
288
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,880
- Really very touching.
- I'll get the tissues ready.
289
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,920
Today the revision case against
Ernest Louwes started in Den Bosch.
290
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,640
Before the trial started, we spoke with
Louwes about this special case...
291
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and his bizarre years in prison.
Bas Haan reports.
292
00:25:54,446 --> 00:25:56,188
You are free, of course
293
00:25:56,499 --> 00:26:02,054
But your life has basically
become miserable.
294
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,520
And that often feels very awful.
295
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,108
Mich?
296
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,720
And that is sometimes difficult.
297
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Mich, come. Louwes is on TV.
298
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,886
It would be best if the perpetrator
is quickly arrested.
299
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,331
So everyone knows I have
nothing to do with it.
300
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Of course that would be the...
the most, most beautiful thing.
301
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,314
That man gives me the creeps.
302
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,040
I would very much
like to have that, yes.
303
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,800
Okay, then we'll talk about that.
304
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440
- Yes.
- Peter R. de Vries.
305
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,160
Um, oh no, sorry. I'll call you
back in a minute.
306
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,253
- What's that?
- A fax from Peter R. de Vries.
307
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,120
He also watched last night.
And how annoyed he got...
308
00:27:29,136 --> 00:27:31,768
that I didn't mention
309
00:27:32,278 --> 00:27:35,003
the pretty spectacular news...
310
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,840
that Louwes' DNA was found
on the blouse of the widow.
311
00:27:41,232 --> 00:27:45,849
Yes, he's right, isn't he?
You didn't report it, did you?
312
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,200
Vanity, Bas.
313
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,520
Fuck.
314
00:28:02,137 --> 00:28:05,520
We found DNA from Mr. Louwes...
315
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,560
in places that correspond with
how the victim was killed.
316
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Mrs. Wittenberg was not only stabbed,
but also strangled.
317
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,560
It involves material near the
broken ribs. The killer used force.
318
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,999
And these red-pink spots
319
00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:32,828
eventually turned out to be
facial foundation.
320
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,705
Which was reasonably spread by the
killer during the strangling.
321
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,285
Apart from these contact traces
322
00:28:43,627 --> 00:28:48,080
we also found this
stain in the collar...
323
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840
with the DNA of Mr. Louwes.
And this is blood.
324
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Except that it takes liquid blood...
325
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,276
we cannot determine with 100%
certainty how that blood got there.
326
00:29:05,981 --> 00:29:09,073
But all these traces support
the hypothesis that
327
00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:12,426
the DNA was transferred
during the crime.
328
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,120
And again: all this DNA
comes from Mr. Louwes.
329
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Mr. Louwes.
Are you nervous for today?
330
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,026
Mr Louwes, are you nervous?
What do you expect from the verdict?
331
00:30:19,957 --> 00:30:20,989
Mr Louwes,
332
00:30:21,246 --> 00:30:23,013
what are you
going to hear today?
333
00:30:23,098 --> 00:30:25,799
Er, acquittal of course.
334
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Are you sure?
335
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:33,800
Yes. Yeah, I've always assumed that,
so uh... that's for sure, yes.
336
00:30:34,246 --> 00:30:37,960
Yet last week the judiciary
made many people doubt.
337
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,120
You would be a top actor
who makes everything up.
338
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,872
Yes, but well, the only top actor
is the OM itself.
339
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960
They did get me convicted once, so...
340
00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:54,840
What if
the verdict today reads: guilty?
341
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880
But it's not like that.
342
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080
I have to go. Will I see you later?
343
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,080
This means that the court finds proven..
344
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,720
that the accused intentionally and
premeditatedly assaulted the victim...
345
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,000
- I haven't, ma'am.
- Let me finish.
346
00:31:24,377 --> 00:31:29,160
...deprived of life. The court orders
the arrest of the accused.
347
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,760
- No no no.
- The ruling...
348
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,640
- I'm not getting picked up again.
- The court rules...
349
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,360
The court maintains,
under improvement of grounds...
350
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,880
the judgment of the Court of Appeal
in Arnhem of 22 December 2000.
351
00:31:43,995 --> 00:31:45,920
The court orders imprisonment.
352
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,640
You just continue with all the
falsified arguments of the police.
353
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080
You just wipe everything away.
354
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000
You are wiping everything away.
355
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,320
I understand your emotion,
but I haven't finished speaking yet.
356
00:31:59,564 --> 00:32:02,118
If you disagree with the ruling
357
00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:05,853
you have two weeks to appeal to the
Supreme Court of the Netherlands.
358
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,320
- You know you are wrong.
- Are you coming with me?
359
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360
No, I'm not coming. No, I'm going...
360
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,960
I'm not... Damn it.
361
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,000
The cameras are now…
362
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
The photos and the cameras
are now stopped.
363
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,120
You can't just act that.
Right, Bas?
364
00:33:08,921 --> 00:33:11,480
Oh come on, man.
You have eyes in your head, right?
365
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,480
He didn't do it,
can't you feel it?
366
00:33:14,669 --> 00:33:17,731
His blood was in the collar,
but we feel he didn't do it.
367
00:33:17,781 --> 00:33:19,069
This was the news, good evening.
368
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Come on.
369
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,360
So, folks. You know there's a
broadcast tonight, right?
370
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,640
See you later.
371
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,840
So...
372
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,400
No acquittal.
373
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,880
That's too bad.
374
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040
- Better luck next time.
- What do you mean?
375
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
- Well, it's done.
- Finished?
376
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,560
I think someone just said that the
blood in the collar can't be ignored.
377
00:33:54,376 --> 00:33:56,960
Rein only said that
a feeling isn't news.
378
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Well, we can't go on feeling.
379
00:33:59,845 --> 00:34:02,720
Whoa, wait. There are still
plenty of questions, aren't there?
380
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,560
- Real questions.
- Bas...
381
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,786
One: they tampered
with the evidence before
382
00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,840
with the reporting
on the knife earlier
383
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,880
And that blouse was
administratively lost for a while.
384
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,280
Two: there is no DNA from Louwes
under the nails of the widow.
385
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,880
While Knoops rightly argued that
this would be the case in a struggle.
386
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,908
Three: new facts have come to light.
387
00:34:23,958 --> 00:34:27,800
But nobody knows enough about
DNA to judge them.
388
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,400
- Bas...
- It's our job as journalists...
389
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,320
It's my job to make a
whole program every night.
390
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,960
I can't allow more time and budget with
those facts and the conviction.
391
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,960
I can't justify it!
392
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:45,480
Management won't have it.
393
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Until new developments come around,
Deventer is on the back burner.
394
00:34:49,767 --> 00:34:54,080
- There is also other news.
- You mean that stranded sperm whale.
395
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Bas... Take off the afternoon.
Cool down.
396
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,776
But after that it's over.
397
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,550
Finished.
398
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Boy oh boy.
399
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,800
Evelien?
400
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Bas.
401
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,240
Glad you wanted to come.
402
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,760
Yeah, I didn't know
it was so public here.
403
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Top criminals also meet
in roadside restaurants.
404
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,581
Don't worry, I'm not going to
ask any difficult questions.
405
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,571
I just wanted to know
more about that
406
00:37:15,622 --> 00:37:18,040
DNA course you followed
at the Justice Department.
407
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,800
They don't invite me.
408
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:24,640
If I tell everything I heard,
I'll violate my duty of confidentiality.
409
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:29,760
But isn't it a general course,
the use of DNA in criminal cases?
410
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,840
- Would you like to order something?
- A regular coffee, please.
411
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,280
A cappuccino.
412
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,360
- I want absolute anonymity.
- I guarantee it.
413
00:37:44,928 --> 00:37:47,603
No one will ever find out
that you talked to me
414
00:37:48,114 --> 00:37:49,840
no matter what you say.
415
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:57,120
The Public Prosecution Service and the
NFI have withheld DNA evidence.
416
00:37:57,762 --> 00:38:00,320
As a result, an innocent man
is now incarcerated.
417
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:03,720
Ernest Louwes?
418
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,969
Kees B.
419
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Schiedam park murder.
420
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:17,720
Succes.
421
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Five, four, three...
422
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,840
Four past eight. This is Network.
423
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,698
Incriminating evidence was withheld in
the Schiedam park murder
424
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,240
How the judiciary wanted to keep an
innocent prisoner locked up for life.
425
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680
A report by Bas Haan.
426
00:38:55,157 --> 00:38:56,360
Hey, man, good day.
427
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,000
A package for you.
428
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Thank you.
429
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,240
Hey
430
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,440
Bad conscience?
431
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,280
Make some room.
432
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,201
Guys what...
433
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Congratulations on your first scoop
as a reporter.
434
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Thank you.
435
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:03,920
Guys...
436
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,600
Well, blow, Haan.
437
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speech.
438
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,080
Cake?
439
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Well, please.
440
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,840
I was at a meeting of Maurice de Hond
this morning.
441
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,880
- More seats for Wilders?
- No.
442
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,600
He had polled the effect of Schiedam on
our confidence in the rule of law.
443
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,560
- I'm guessing it had dropped.
- Dramatic.
444
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,810
But the OM is working on improvement.
445
00:40:33,861 --> 00:40:34,869
Yes
446
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,240
Schiedam was only the start,
he is know looking at Deventer.
447
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,440
- Maurice?
- Hmhm.
448
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,000
- At Deventer?
- Yes.
449
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:46,400
He claims to have a lot of new evidence
that exonerates Louwes.
450
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,280
Seriously?
451
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,671
Did he mention what he found?
452
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Do you know who his source is?
453
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,024
- Does he have a new witness?
- I didn't ask.
454
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Tonight he will sit at Matthijs.
455
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Maurice de Hond, welcome.
456
00:41:08,105 --> 00:41:09,960
Polls are your business.
457
00:41:10,195 --> 00:41:13,360
- Yes.
- You started another campaign today.
458
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,198
You would like to review and reopen the
Deventer murder case of 1999.
459
00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:21,072
Why?
460
00:41:21,122 --> 00:41:22,840
Well, I'm just a civilian too.
461
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,400
And as a citizen,
I am interested in the rule of law.
462
00:41:26,957 --> 00:41:32,863
And in 2003 or 2004, Ernest Louwes
was convicted in the third instance...
463
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,120
after he was first released
by the Supreme Court
464
00:41:36,456 --> 00:41:40,467
and when I saw that on TV,
my stomach turned.
465
00:41:40,841 --> 00:41:46,600
After that I received all sorts of
information from people close to Louwes.
466
00:41:46,651 --> 00:41:49,627
I couldn't believe what I read. This
couldn't happen in this country.
467
00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:52,800
The Netherlands has a constitution.
I couldn't believe it.
468
00:41:53,401 --> 00:41:57,440
Only until the Schiedam park murder
came on TV earlier this year
469
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,400
First on Netwerk, but more importantly
later in the report of OM.
470
00:42:02,515 --> 00:42:05,680
Kees B. was unjustly
imprisoned for murder.
471
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,015
It's kind of a mix between
"Keystone Cops"...
472
00:42:09,065 --> 00:42:12,280
with Inspector Clouseau from "The
Pink Panther" and Mr Bean.
473
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,760
Isn't that part of the excitement?
474
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,360
With the Schiedam case you see
how many mistakes...
475
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
He just keeps linking those cases.
476
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,320
Also on his site.
477
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,194
Here.
478
00:42:27,835 --> 00:42:30,160
Schiedam, Deventer.
479
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:34,920
And here. But that in itself
isn't so illogical, is it?
480
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Because they messed up in Schiedam,
they also screwed up Deventer?
481
00:42:39,551 --> 00:42:41,440
That is no argument,
that's bullshit.
482
00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:46,200
Besides, in Schiedam the withheld DNA
proved Kees B.'s innocence...
483
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,600
while in Deventer the found
DNA proves Louwes' guilt.
484
00:42:49,996 --> 00:42:53,760
But many people doubt
whether Louwes did it.
485
00:42:54,183 --> 00:42:57,880
With all due respect, Gerda, those
people don't know fuck all, don't they?
486
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,364
Well, Maurice
is not just anyone.
487
00:43:00,718 --> 00:43:03,600
This isn't a poll,
it's a murder case.
488
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,947
What?
489
00:43:08,088 --> 00:43:10,560
Second chances are
rare in our business.
490
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,640
Not so long ago you also
had doubts about Louwes.
491
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,634
That's right.
492
00:43:17,736 --> 00:43:22,840
Schiedam was a crash course in DNA.
Conclusion: DNA, no way around it.
493
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,800
That blood in that collar is a fact,
and that blood belongs to Louwes.
494
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,198
Unless the blood is fraudulent.
495
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,013
According to Louwes
the evidence has been faked.
496
00:43:33,063 --> 00:43:35,070
But Maurice has no hard proof of that.
497
00:43:35,121 --> 00:43:36,560
I took a good look.
498
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,883
So?
499
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:40,920
- No news?
- Gerda.
500
00:43:41,641 --> 00:43:44,560
Maurice is just a celebrity
with an opinion.
501
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,360
Okay.
502
00:43:57,409 --> 00:44:00,960
On principle, you shouldn't
prune in winter.
503
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,160
The plant needs to lose moisture.
504
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,960
If you prune too much,
you will get fungus.
505
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Good afternoon.
506
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Good afternoon.
507
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
- Hello?
- Are you Meike Wittermans?
508
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240
- The handyman's girlfriend?
- Handyman?
509
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,520
Yes, from Widow Wittenberg.
510
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,320
Did you see this, man?
They are calling you the handyman.
511
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,000
What is this all about?
512
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,160
- I don't quite understand...
- We just want to ask some questions.
513
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,396
Things that are unclear.
514
00:45:13,615 --> 00:45:16,568
At the time, you and your husband
were questioned by the police
515
00:45:16,664 --> 00:45:20,320
And made contradictory statements about
the time at which Michael came home.
516
00:45:20,575 --> 00:45:23,400
- Right?
- Yes, that was a mistake, yes.
517
00:45:27,156 --> 00:45:28,160
A mistake?
518
00:45:28,445 --> 00:45:30,172
Yes, a mistake, yes.
519
00:45:30,617 --> 00:45:34,640
Can you precisely remember where
you wife was last Tuesday at 20:30?
520
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,467
There was no murder that night.
521
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:39,094
No, exactly.
522
00:45:39,260 --> 00:45:44,280
And we had nothing to do with
that murder, so why would I remember?
523
00:45:46,076 --> 00:45:48,280
I've already explained all this.
524
00:45:49,889 --> 00:45:53,960
You do not have to be scared.
We can take you to a safe place.
525
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,240
Who are you?
526
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,742
Can you identify yourself?
527
00:46:01,191 --> 00:46:02,440
Be honest.
528
00:46:02,686 --> 00:46:07,280
Wouldn't it be nice if you could throw
that burden off your shoulders?
529
00:46:07,475 --> 00:46:10,800
- Come clean
- You can't just show up at my work.
530
00:46:11,514 --> 00:46:13,459
That was the whole plan.
531
00:46:13,592 --> 00:46:16,047
If he's not here,
you can talk freely.
532
00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:19,247
Ma'am, come with us.
533
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,120
We can protect you.
534
00:46:21,372 --> 00:46:23,960
- He can't touch you.
- What do you think?
535
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,240
We have nothing to do with this case.
Can you get out of here now?
536
00:46:28,629 --> 00:46:31,680
I'm calling the police.
The real police.
537
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Okay.
538
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,920
Who do you actually work for?
539
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,853
Maurice has been invited by the
President of the Board of Attorneys...
540
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:30,000
to personally explain his actions and
doubts in the Deventer murder case.
541
00:47:30,211 --> 00:47:31,611
What?
542
00:47:32,024 --> 00:47:33,760
How did he manage that?
543
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,107
I also don't understand.
544
00:47:41,091 --> 00:47:44,880
Do you think I can talk to Brouwer
about my parking tickets?
545
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,080
Then you first have to appear
on 'De Wereld Draait Door'
546
00:47:48,468 --> 00:47:53,200
It's all PR. Restore the trust in the
law; citizens speak up.
547
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,593
But preferably a citizen
who works in media, please.
548
00:47:55,851 --> 00:47:58,257
Thanks to us, huh.
Thanks to us.
549
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,255
It's news... by now.
550
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,920
And the news just came out.
551
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,829
Good morning, mister De Hond.
552
00:48:23,879 --> 00:48:28,040
You have just come from a meeting with
the boss of the judiciary. About what?
553
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,627
Yes, about the Deventer
murder case...
554
00:48:30,677 --> 00:48:33,560
and the fact that the wrong
perpetrator is incarcerated.
555
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,320
And that we now know, at least we do,
who the real perpetrator is.
556
00:48:38,577 --> 00:48:40,360
You know it.
Does he know it too?
557
00:48:40,573 --> 00:48:42,628
Well, he knows what I know.
558
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,880
Of course it isn't easy to
immediately come out and say: it is so.
559
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,310
The fact that the research
is reopened indicates...
560
00:48:51,615 --> 00:48:53,669
that they have
sufficient doubts...
561
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,120
about whether they have done the right
thing in the past.
562
00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:09,600
- He is quite confident in himself.
- Quite?
563
00:49:10,634 --> 00:49:12,120
He already has
the fucking culprit.
564
00:49:13,278 --> 00:49:14,280
What now?
565
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,640
On to casa 'De Hond'.
566
00:49:20,154 --> 00:49:23,320
Mr. De Hond.
What do you expect law enforcement to do
567
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,760
with the incriminating information
you unearthed about the handyman?
568
00:49:27,013 --> 00:49:32,720
I only ask for a proper investigation.
I'm not condemning that man yet.
569
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,840
I think for 99.99% if not a
100% that he did it...
570
00:49:38,082 --> 00:49:39,880
but I'm not a judge.
571
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,280
My only responsibility with
the information is to say:
572
00:49:43,465 --> 00:49:46,880
Anyone who
reads this information...
573
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,200
thinks more research should be done.
574
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Because if only two of my fifteen
hypotheses are true, he's the culprit.
575
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,990
Is it him?
576
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,800
Yes, 100% sure.
577
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,760
- That's tunnel vision.
- No.
578
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,360
He has not yet been convicted.
579
00:50:05,538 --> 00:50:06,920
But I'm not a judge.
580
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,480
You are also not a detective. And can't
read the pieces as a detective.
581
00:50:10,739 --> 00:50:16,120
Your are convinced. Are you allowed to
determine that it is him?
582
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,840
No, I can't say to him:
You get twelve years.
583
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,120
I may say, That's my... I mean, why not?
He's it, 100% sure.
584
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:26,640
100%.
585
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,240
100%?
586
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,720
- That's what he said?
- Yes.
587
00:50:36,060 --> 00:50:38,560
- And we have that exclusively?
- Yes but...
588
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,760
Yes, but under embargo?
589
00:50:40,832 --> 00:50:42,996
As soon as the OM comes
up with something, we can go.
590
00:50:43,047 --> 00:50:44,800
So we have agreed
with Maurice... But...
591
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,600
But?
592
00:50:47,212 --> 00:50:49,332
It's quite an accusation.
593
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,280
Er, press release from the OM.
594
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,760
At the request of the
Board of Attorneys...
595
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,680
an exploratory investigation has started
into the Deventer murder case.
596
00:51:02,909 --> 00:51:03,949
What?
597
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,524
An exploratory investigation?
There is no such thing.
598
00:51:09,574 --> 00:51:11,440
Well, yes, now there is.
599
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,745
And it's the OM,
so we're allowed.
600
00:51:14,232 --> 00:51:17,320
Yes, but without that
quote about the handyman.
601
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,841
Sorry?
602
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,641
Someone is accused of murder
603
00:51:22,076 --> 00:51:24,440
without any hard evidence.
604
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,385
You elicited that
statement from him yourself.
605
00:51:27,435 --> 00:51:29,497
That's why I'm
going to block it.
606
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,040
Bas, this is news.
607
00:51:32,591 --> 00:51:35,642
You can't just accuse someone of
murder on TV. Maurice...
608
00:51:35,693 --> 00:51:38,360
Maurice is just a celebrity
with an opinion, yes.
609
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,169
But if the judicial system
takes him seriously...
610
00:51:41,325 --> 00:51:44,973
and even starts an
exploratory investigation...
611
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Something which, according to you,
has never happened yet.
612
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,520
...then that's news.
613
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,198
I'm only asking for a
proper investigation.
614
00:52:00,248 --> 00:52:02,360
I'm not judging that man today.
615
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,480
I think 99.99% if not 100%
that he did it...
616
00:52:07,785 --> 00:52:09,520
but I'm not a judge.
617
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,295
My only job with
the information is to say:
618
00:52:14,382 --> 00:52:16,480
Anyone who
reads the information...
619
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,840
thinks more research should be done.
620
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,853
Because if only two of my fifteen
hypotheses are true, he's the culprit.
621
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Is it him?
622
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,799
Yes, 100% sure.
623
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,600
That's tunnel vision.
624
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:01,298
Come here. Hey, come here.
625
00:53:07,735 --> 00:53:10,829
Hello, this is Michaël and
Meike's answering machine.
626
00:53:10,985 --> 00:53:14,800
We aren't in at the moment, but leave
a message after the beep. Thank you.
627
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,280
Hey, Michael, pick up then,
you filthy retard.
628
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,968
I hope they also strangle you...
629
00:53:21,054 --> 00:53:22,682
like you strangled
that old woman.
630
00:53:22,737 --> 00:53:23,905
You cowardly bastard.
631
00:53:23,956 --> 00:53:26,840
You too, Meike, you dirty whore.
632
00:53:37,661 --> 00:53:39,840
Hello, this is the answering machine...
633
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Bas.
634
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Did you read it?
635
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,339
De Telegraaf, Volkskrant, AD,
all on the front page.
636
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,560
Congratulations man.
637
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Goddamnit.
638
00:54:27,995 --> 00:54:33,032
He says Michael van J. probably did it.
639
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,440
That man has a letter in which the
judiciary says: You are not a suspect.
640
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Can a citizen actually do that?
641
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,744
Shouldn't you be
happy that the judiciary investigates
642
00:54:43,794 --> 00:54:46,040
and just leave it them?
643
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,160
No, the point is: why did the
judiciary start to investigate?
644
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,240
Why have they never investigated
it in Schiedam?
645
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,680
Apparently the judiciary only
moves under hard pressure.
646
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,040
- But they are moving now.
- The point is why...
647
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,074
because the piece on my website
has been sent to the OM.
648
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,480
We said: This is our proof,
go do something.
649
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:18,303
But they are busy now. Why don't you
keep a low profile for now?
650
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,640
It is of course not in the interest
of the judges, the OM, the judiciary...
651
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,640
to say now: Louwes is not it
and the other one might be.
652
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Because then it will be a
bigger scandal than Schiedam.
653
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,800
Mich... Maybe we should consider what
that lawyer said: give an interview.
654
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,480
No.
655
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,240
I'm not going to do that.
656
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,560
Really.
657
00:55:48,357 --> 00:55:53,080
But there's also the 1% chance,
which you mention yourself...
658
00:55:53,302 --> 00:55:56,920
that Michael didn't do it.
Then you caused quite something.
659
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,640
- Then I will bear the consequences.
- They can go very far.
660
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,861
We'll see.
661
00:56:02,987 --> 00:56:04,682
What's the matter with that guy?
662
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:10,520
Maurice is on campaign.
It's not about the content.
663
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,480
It's about the PR.
664
00:56:13,139 --> 00:56:15,840
Not to be right,
but to get his right.
665
00:56:16,146 --> 00:56:21,560
Last month Brouwer was his best friend,
now he is part of the plot.
666
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:24,520
Brouwer actually hoisted
him on the shield.
667
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,616
Not just Brouwer, right?
668
00:56:27,163 --> 00:56:30,007
If I remember correctly,
Maurice also got a lot...
669
00:56:30,165 --> 00:56:33,120
of airtime on a certain
current affairs program.
670
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,701
"It's the handyman."
671
00:56:36,568 --> 00:56:37,920
'100% sure.'
672
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,360
Okay. Second chance, very good,
one more time then.
673
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,960
This time all the way.
Everything and everyone.
674
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,240
Not just what Maurice does.
Every fart from that man is covered.
675
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,840
I was just looking for you.
Press release OM, just came in.
676
00:57:05,381 --> 00:57:08,294
Interim conclusion
exploratory investigation:
677
00:57:08,608 --> 00:57:10,080
five additional contact traces...
678
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,983
and a trail of blood, all from Louwes.
679
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,520
- Do you have to go?
- No, I'm going to smoke.
680
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920
- Outside?
- Some bore has complained.
681
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,040
That bloody smoking ban...
682
00:57:25,892 --> 00:57:28,520
So it says nothing about
Michael de Jong.
683
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,120
I can already hear Maurice calling it:
cover up.
684
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,886
Can I conclude from
this that you are now...
685
00:57:38,936 --> 00:57:42,600
investigating the handyman,
and not just Louwes?
686
00:57:42,944 --> 00:57:46,240
That's what I said.
The whole story, everything.
687
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,810
And how long do you need for that?
688
00:57:53,662 --> 00:57:57,400
The whole story, checking everything
from Maurice about the handyman...
689
00:57:57,718 --> 00:57:59,092
Louwes one more time...
690
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,160
- Two, three...
- ...weeks.
691
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,400
...months.
692
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,514
But what if Maurice
turns out to be right?
693
00:58:13,475 --> 00:58:17,631
If he has the facts on his side, I'll
carry him around on a silver shield.
694
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,080
100% sure.
695
00:58:20,419 --> 00:58:23,640
I'll ignore the cynicism for now.
But we don't have broadcast.
696
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,600
Of course. You must also dare
to broadcast your faults.
697
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,095
Bas, it is not
a question of daring.
698
00:58:29,716 --> 00:58:31,220
It is journalistic suicide.
699
00:58:31,294 --> 00:58:34,680
So it's open road for circus
De Hond then? I believe it's our job...
700
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Oh my gosh, not again.
701
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,240
Saint Bas.
702
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Do you think
that the handyman did it?
703
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,160
Don't know. I don't think so.
704
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,440
Two months.
705
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,160
Drug addict.
706
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,120
Benefit fraudster.
707
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,760
Hit rock bottom.
708
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,196
Debts as a result of
very high spending patterns.
709
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,960
Perpetrator knowledge.
710
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,021
He and his girlfriend would have
lied about their alibis.
711
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,000
And then this one.
712
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:47,040
Michael was a patient of psychiatrist
Wittenberg, the husband of the widow.
713
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,560
Because of tantrums.
714
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,560
- How did he get all this information?
- From witnesses.
715
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Because of the publicity,
everyone approaches him.
716
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,960
People who suddenly remember everything
after seven years, often anonymously.
717
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,600
Lots of facts, but no sources.
It cannot be checked directly.
718
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,600
It's a lot.
There must be some truth to it, right?
719
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,440
Yes but what?
720
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,141
There's nothing in it that
makes him a murderer.
721
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,040
But okay.
722
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,560
The handyman did have a motive,
according to Maurice.
723
01:00:22,779 --> 01:00:25,600
Louwes not according to the judges.
Here.
724
01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:30,280
"The handyman was in the
widow's original will...
725
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,130
with a tax-free legacy
of 50,000 guilders...
726
01:00:34,607 --> 01:00:39,200
which was lowered in the new will
ten days before the murder...
727
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,148
to 25,000 guilders.
728
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:43,993
That's why, and
because of debts...
729
01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:46,759
he would have killed her
in a drunken brawl.'
730
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,280
According to Maurice.
731
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Not known to you? In no registry?
732
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,389
No theft, benefit fraud,
drunk driving, whatever?
733
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,360
Can I quote you on that? Super.
734
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,120
- Here.
- Ah, thank you.
735
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,600
What is that?
736
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,960
- You know that, right?
- Ah, that adoption thingy.
737
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,080
Yes.
738
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,920
Can you picture it?
739
01:01:50,334 --> 01:01:52,360
And can I get that woman too, hm?
740
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,560
If I get that man too.
741
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,800
Come here.
742
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,480
- Are you OK?
- Yes.
743
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,840
- Shall I go to the girls?
- No, I'm coming.
744
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,795
Hey, come here.
Well done.
745
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:20,040
There's nothing wrong. Yes, good, good.
746
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,440
Well done.
747
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,280
Very good, very good.
748
01:03:26,827 --> 01:03:28,920
Hey, hey, sst.
749
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,840
- Mich?
- Yes, what?
750
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,360
- We have to do something.
- Yes, what then?
751
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,135
I think we need to
talk to that journalist.
752
01:03:40,529 --> 01:03:42,840
But then I have to go
on TV to defend myself.
753
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,360
That man sends private investigators
to my work.
754
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Then I have to tell on TV
how I got that perpetrator knowledge.
755
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,200
- Jan Vlug.
- Good afternoon, Mr Vlug.
756
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,240
- Who am I speaking to?
- With Bas Haan.
757
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:22,395
Bas Haan.
758
01:04:22,445 --> 01:04:25,600
I would like to speak with a
client of you, Michael de Jong.
759
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:27,400
I can not reach him.
760
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,113
Oh, so you thought,
let me call his lawyer?
761
01:04:31,754 --> 01:04:36,080
- I assume you can reach him.
- He doesn't want to speak to you.
762
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,080
Hello.
763
01:04:43,619 --> 01:04:45,699
Did anything happen today?
764
01:04:52,753 --> 01:04:55,040
Mr Haan, let me be clear.
765
01:04:55,300 --> 01:05:00,535
According to me and my client,
you are part of the Mr. De Hond group.
766
01:05:01,058 --> 01:05:03,880
You have made more than
ten broadcasts about this case.
767
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,089
And in the last one, Mr. De Hond
got to call my client a murderer...
768
01:05:08,236 --> 01:05:10,160
in front of the whole nation.
769
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,080
'100% sure.'
770
01:05:13,377 --> 01:05:16,880
I understand your reaction,
but I only care about the facts.
771
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,880
I can't investigate a lot,
without his explanation.
772
01:05:23,752 --> 01:05:26,040
You wanted to speak to me?
773
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,680
Sit down.
774
01:05:29,587 --> 01:05:33,400
I'm not judging anyone,
but given all the media attention...
775
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,240
it may be in your client's interest
to highlight his side of the story.
776
01:05:40,066 --> 01:05:45,440
First you make his life hell
and now he has to tell his story...
777
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,640
so that you have your next broadcast.
778
01:05:49,011 --> 01:05:53,080
It must be weird, huh,
all that stuff in the media.
779
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,793
Pf. It's a nightmare.
780
01:05:56,428 --> 01:05:58,228
And especially for Meike.
781
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,270
Maurice's accusations about you
are not nothing...
782
01:06:03,785 --> 01:06:07,000
No, but that man is insane you know.
783
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,634
I would like to point out that
Michael and his girlfriend...
784
01:06:13,684 --> 01:06:15,840
are very fond of their privacy.
785
01:06:16,103 --> 01:06:19,680
These are people who don't need
or want to be in the picture.
786
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,580
Unlike some others.
787
01:06:21,630 --> 01:06:23,720
Those people exist, Mr. Haan.
788
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,059
Personally, I understand them very
well. Better than you probably think.
789
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,290
But as long as they don't defend
themselves, Maurice can shoot freely.
790
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:35,480
For the last time...
791
01:06:35,673 --> 01:06:41,118
My clients don't want to answer for
something they have no part in.
792
01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:45,487
And for Mr. De Hond, he will
soon have to answer for himself...
793
01:06:45,538 --> 01:06:47,200
when I sue him for libel.
794
01:06:47,396 --> 01:06:48,760
Bye Mr. Haan.
795
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,320
Shit.
796
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,960
Shit, shit, shit.
797
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,512
There are customers of
ours who would rather...
798
01:06:58,562 --> 01:07:00,815
not have you come
to them anymore.
799
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,920
Who?
800
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,520
Customers.
801
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,257
Have I lost my job?
802
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,480
Who are you?
803
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,000
Who are you?
804
01:07:47,330 --> 01:07:48,529
Who are you?
805
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,400
Leave us alone.
806
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,640
Leave me alone.
807
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,200
How is it going?
808
01:08:12,952 --> 01:08:14,406
It has been a long time.
809
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:16,680
Long time, indeed.
810
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,600
Good to have you here.
811
01:08:19,921 --> 01:08:22,880
A lot of people are sticking up
for me now...
812
01:08:23,210 --> 01:08:27,080
but you were one of the first
to believe and stand up for me.
813
01:08:41,203 --> 01:08:43,390
I've dived into the matter again.
814
01:08:44,257 --> 01:08:46,555
I've put everything back together.
815
01:08:47,711 --> 01:08:50,960
You were with Mrs. Wittenberg
the morning of the murder.
816
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,481
In your diary you write
that she was wearing something red.
817
01:08:57,419 --> 01:09:03,080
"I can't remember whether it was a dress
or a suit, but the color was red."
818
01:09:06,336 --> 01:09:09,520
But the blouse she wore when she
was killed, was white.
819
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,211
Yes...
820
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:21,238
You always said the DNA got on her
blouse during your visit that morning.
821
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,600
What I don't understand,
is how it got on that white blouse.
822
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,280
Wasn't she wearing something red?
823
01:09:40,402 --> 01:09:43,418
And speaking of that white blouse...
824
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,090
That blood in the collar,
how did they get it?
825
01:09:49,894 --> 01:09:53,080
Um, I donated blood in 1999.
826
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,320
- In my cell, for a DNA profile.
- Where is that written down?
827
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,158
I must have read over it.
828
01:09:59,534 --> 01:10:02,120
I could hardly have
written everything down.
829
01:10:02,533 --> 01:10:05,455
123 typed pages...
830
01:10:05,706 --> 01:10:09,182
of literally every detail
since your arrest.
831
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,270
And then they come into
your cell, take your blood,
832
01:10:13,643 --> 01:10:15,480
and you don't write that down?
833
01:10:34,016 --> 01:10:38,484
In '99 they put my DNA profile
in the database.
834
01:10:39,758 --> 01:10:44,200
That profile required blood.
Then they must have taken it, right?
835
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,640
It wasn't until 2003 that a DNA profile
was made of you, for your review.
836
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,240
- With a cotton swab, in your cheek.
- You're not listening.
837
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,360
I am listening. You say that
blood was drawn in 1999...
838
01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:00,080
to commit fraud with in 2003.
839
01:11:01,414 --> 01:11:06,515
Do they always hold back some blood in
case someone's first conviction fails?
840
01:11:17,629 --> 01:11:21,320
How can you be sure that no
blood has been drawn?
841
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:24,640
Everything in my case is counterfeit.
Bas!
842
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,360
Everything.
843
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,240
Bas, everything!
844
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,720
Bas!
845
01:11:55,010 --> 01:11:57,120
- Hi.
- I do not have that much time.
846
01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:59,685
It's lunch break
and my boss is strict.
847
01:11:59,893 --> 01:12:01,920
I just have a few questions.
848
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,523
You're not
recording it, are you?
849
01:12:04,299 --> 01:12:07,158
This is as off the
record as it gets.
850
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,440
Really?
851
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,040
Yes, okay. Shall we
just stand there for a while?
852
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,160
Yes.
853
01:12:33,731 --> 01:12:35,789
Actually, I already know a lot.
854
01:12:36,067 --> 01:12:39,285
I'm mainly looking for confirmation
of two things.
855
01:12:40,668 --> 01:12:43,720
A new will was drawn up
ten days before the murder...
856
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,964
in which Louwes becomes
executor of the widow...
857
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,400
and president of a foundation that
manages her millions after her death.
858
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:56,549
Sorry, I really can't do this.
859
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,360
I thought it would be more about
what I thought of Louwes.
860
01:13:00,565 --> 01:13:05,541
Don't worry, no one will ever
find out about this, I guarantee it.
861
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,680
My word is everything, otherwise
no one will ever talk to me again.
862
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:12,440
Everything is so specific.
It can only come from me.
863
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,640
It can come from a variety of sources.
No one knows if you work for justice...
864
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,783
or with an involved lawyer,
notary, insurer or Louwes' office.
865
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,360
- Or that you know someone there.
- When you have so much choice...
866
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:28,480
Listen.
867
01:13:29,049 --> 01:13:33,240
You agreed to this meeting because
things don't sit well with you, right?
868
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:38,320
Sorry, I shouldn't have...
I shouldn't have come.
869
01:13:42,932 --> 01:13:47,280
You don't necessarily have to talk.
There are also other ways to…
870
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Maybe you know someone
who would like to talk.
871
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,880
This is the knife with which
Michael de Jong stabbed the widow.
872
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,520
With a blade of ten centimeters.
873
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,949
I'll show it here. Ten centimeters.
874
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,457
Michael de Jong killed
the widow with five stabs.
875
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,600
According to expert research...
876
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,840
I uh... found this one.
877
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,960
Get rid of it.
878
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,720
Mr. Vlug, Bas Haan.
879
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,760
Again, yes.
880
01:15:15,599 --> 01:15:19,145
No, I understand that, but you
can propose it to them, can't you?
881
01:15:19,224 --> 01:15:23,000
In a place they choose, without a
camera, in your presence.
882
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,320
I understand.
883
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:29,520
Yes.
884
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,400
Okay.
885
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,600
Thank you, Maurice.
886
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:52,960
Michael?
887
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:56,800
This is Bas Haan.
888
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:03,247
I know you know my name and
you don't want to talk to me.
889
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,000
And I understand that.
890
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:13,480
Michael?
891
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:21,840
Give me a chance.
892
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,800
You get to tell your whole story,
primetime.
893
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:31,280
Michael.
894
01:18:44,367 --> 01:18:46,515
I'll leave my card here for you.
895
01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:14,770
No sender.
896
01:19:33,230 --> 01:19:35,120
You know whose it is?
897
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,879
I can't say that.
898
01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:40,520
Only that
it left me with a proper cold.
899
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,480
Holy shit.
900
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,800
- Are we shooting?
- Just a moment.
901
01:20:01,978 --> 01:20:03,520
Professor Van Mourik.
902
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,608
As an inheritance
law specialist...
903
01:20:05,658 --> 01:20:08,640
what do you think about
Louwes' letter to the notary...
904
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,400
two months prior to the murder?
905
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,680
Louwes asks the notary to
put in the draft will...
906
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,960
that he becomes the sole director
of a foundation...
907
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,960
which manages all assets
after her death.
908
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,720
And that he does not have to
appoint fellow directors.
909
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,720
In short: that he is the sole ruler
of the wealth...
910
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,360
and can do with it
whatever he pleases.
911
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:35,400
And he was already working on that
two months before the murder.
912
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,200
Apparently, yes.
913
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,400
But that is not how it turned out
in the final will.
914
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:46,680
That notary probably smelled a fuse
and thought: we're not going to do that.
915
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,353
That is why Louwes
is ultimately forced
916
01:20:50,832 --> 01:20:53,278
to appoint two
fellow directors?
917
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,280
It strongly resembles that.
918
01:20:55,621 --> 01:21:00,320
But he then chose two colleagues
from his office...
919
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:03,771
whom he made excited with money
and goods from the foundation...
920
01:21:03,822 --> 01:21:05,986
at least this is what they
declared to the police.
921
01:21:06,104 --> 01:21:07,480
What do you think of that?
922
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:11,385
The combination of facts...
923
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,840
also that he was trying to
transfer money to a private account...
924
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,280
that leads very clearly in the
direction of Louwes.
925
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,680
You targeted the widow's money,
but you handled it stupidly.
926
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,200
Hey, Meike.
927
01:21:39,056 --> 01:21:43,600
- You better leave that curtain closed.
- It's still there, though.
928
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,520
- I'm going to call the police.
- And then?
929
01:21:52,108 --> 01:21:54,788
You already know what they're
going to say, right?
930
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,810
Well, ma'am, what does he do?
931
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:04,560
Yes, if he doesn't do anything, then
uh... then we can't do anything either.
932
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,160
Because you can just stand there.
933
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,400
Yeah, no, it's uh...
934
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:13,640
We can maybe drive by later...
935
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,320
But we are not a private police,
we have to guard the whole city.
936
01:22:18,440 --> 01:22:21,120
Pickpockets, terrorists...
937
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,800
car thefts...
938
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:24,960
squatters.
939
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:48,640
Come here.
940
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,400
Jesus.
941
01:23:07,304 --> 01:23:09,840
Oh no.
942
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,077
No, No. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
943
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:16,913
Out.
944
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,960
- No no no.
- I'm going to get the car.
945
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,800
Come on, come on. It's okay, it's okay.
946
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,120
Hey baby.
947
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,520
We're going to take good care of you,
poopie, aren't we?
948
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,480
It's okay, it's okay.
949
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,560
- Mich, let's talk to that reporter.
- Ah, Mei... Meike, that...
950
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:30,480
Mich.
951
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,080
No.
952
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,000
Um...
953
01:24:41,548 --> 01:24:45,805
We had to cut open her neck to
remove the skewers, but...
954
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,520
But it looks like she will survive.
955
01:24:55,162 --> 01:24:57,762
- Can we...
- You can see her later.
956
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:04,840
Hey girl.
957
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:16,360
And yes, the only conclusion is...
Or the strong suspicion then arises...
958
01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:19,040
He wanted the money for himself.
959
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,449
Press release OM.
960
01:25:23,277 --> 01:25:25,560
- New DNA research.
- What now?
961
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,851
Y-chromosomal DNA research.
962
01:25:29,601 --> 01:25:31,200
It's a new technique.
963
01:25:31,742 --> 01:25:34,120
Performed on the nails of the widow.
964
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,320
Gerda.
965
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:38,800
It is a match with Louwes.
966
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:44,881
This technique does not produce
a unique profile.
967
01:25:44,932 --> 01:25:49,978
3 to 4% of men have the profile
found on the nails.
968
01:25:50,502 --> 01:25:52,000
But Louwes has it.
969
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:54,440
Wow.
970
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,200
- There go Knoops' fingernails.
- Yes, plus Louwes' motive.
971
01:26:00,865 --> 01:26:04,920
- And he lied about drawing blood.
- It looks like it.
972
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,680
Check that nail news,
also from an expert.
973
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,960
If it's right, than it's going
to be broadcast.
974
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,280
And now they come with nails.
975
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,680
They were also investigated in 2004
and then there was nothing on it.
976
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:26,080
But Maurice, there is now a
technique that can now find something...
977
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,616
Yes, but that's the
misunderstanding.
978
01:26:28,666 --> 01:26:31,760
And that is also neat
PR trick from the OM...
979
01:27:04,764 --> 01:27:07,280
I thought of something last night.
Those nails.
980
01:27:07,514 --> 01:27:12,120
What if the handyman has the same
profile as those 3 to 4% of men?
981
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,278
If not, then the broadcast
becomes difficult.
982
01:27:14,328 --> 01:27:15,760
Everyone will start speculating.
983
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,800
That man never does.
984
01:27:18,762 --> 01:27:21,640
Even if he didn't,
there may be a match.
985
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,760
But if there is no match,
he is 100% innocent.
986
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,095
Yes.
987
01:27:26,333 --> 01:27:29,840
Just make sure you get to talk
to that handyman at all.
988
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,709
Hey.
989
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,400
That's mommy.
990
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:10,800
Hey.
991
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,200
Eggs. Aaah.
992
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,040
How was your day?
993
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,720
Yes, fantastic.
994
01:29:12,463 --> 01:29:13,503
What?
995
01:29:13,963 --> 01:29:18,480
That he wants to help me get rid of you.
They're ready for me.
996
01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:22,880
What bullshit.
997
01:29:24,263 --> 01:29:26,160
So now they know where we live.
998
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,240
There's no stamp on it,
someone just delivers this.
999
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,464
I can't do this anymore.
1000
01:30:00,653 --> 01:30:02,097
I can't do this anymore.
1001
01:30:02,317 --> 01:30:04,160
I can't take this anymore.
1002
01:30:04,473 --> 01:30:06,320
I can't.
1003
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:11,520
You destroy everything.
You destroy everything. Goddamnit.
1004
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:14,720
Hey.
1005
01:30:15,086 --> 01:30:19,160
Hey, hey, hey.
1006
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,960
I'm going to talk to that journalist.
I'm going to talk to him.
1007
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,120
Yes?
1008
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,240
Yes?
1009
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:51,960
Mr. Vlug?
1010
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,280
Yes>
1011
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,440
No, of course.
1012
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,960
Tuesday is fine.
1013
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,200
Yes.
1014
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:13,680
Yes!
1015
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,160
Yes!
1016
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:37,960
Mr Haan.
1017
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,720
Meet Michael and Meike.
1018
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,579
Bas.
1019
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,280
Hallo.
1020
01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:56,870
Let's sit down.
1021
01:32:10,980 --> 01:32:12,600
Go ahead, Mr Haan.
1022
01:32:12,915 --> 01:32:14,882
My clients are ready.
1023
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:23,025
First of all thank you very much
for being willing to meet me.
1024
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,586
I understand...
1025
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,600
I understand that you would
rather not be here.
1026
01:32:37,774 --> 01:32:41,480
But if you don't respond
to what Maurice writes...
1027
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,857
then I fear that in the
eyes of the general public...
1028
01:32:45,006 --> 01:32:47,960
the handyman is the killer.
1029
01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:55,599
I'd like to check some things from
Maurice's website one by one.
1030
01:32:56,231 --> 01:32:58,400
- Is that okay?
- Yes.
1031
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,120
Have you ever been a patient
of Dr. Wittenberg?
1032
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:13,240
No.
1033
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,905
No, I knew the doctor from the
antique store where I worked.
1034
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,480
Mrs Wittenberg too.
1035
01:33:22,030 --> 01:33:25,600
But I had nothing to do
with the doctor's profession.
1036
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:29,120
I am not a psychiatric patient.
1037
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,912
Not from him
and not from anyone else.
1038
01:33:37,877 --> 01:33:40,440
You would have hit rock bottom...
1039
01:33:41,252 --> 01:33:43,767
and lack of money because
you didn't have a job.
1040
01:33:43,845 --> 01:33:48,800
Michaël worked from 1993 to 2002
through and for a job placement company.
1041
01:33:49,884 --> 01:33:55,105
As a supervisor, manager, quality
controller and security officer...
1042
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,673
for about 36 hours a week. Here.
1043
01:33:59,196 --> 01:34:00,400
'Michaël de Jong
1044
01:34:00,798 --> 01:34:04,891
is a very reliable,
extremely knowledgeable employee.'
1045
01:34:05,329 --> 01:34:06,493
And here:
1046
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,947
'Welcome to provide
references about Mr. MC de Jong.'
1047
01:34:11,494 --> 01:34:13,760
The murder was in 1999...
1048
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:18,575
so Michael was working at that company
from long before until long after.
1049
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,680
So no unemployment and no decline.
1050
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:30,596
And I'm not a handyman at all. I did
odd jobs at her house sometimes, but...
1051
01:34:31,300 --> 01:34:32,360
nothing more.
1052
01:34:34,069 --> 01:34:35,640
The bookkeeper
is not a bookkeeper.
1053
01:34:36,569 --> 01:34:38,600
and the handyman
is not a handyman.
1054
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,800
And drugs?
1055
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:45,480
Yes, that's quite a nice one.
I can't even do drugs.
1056
01:34:45,643 --> 01:34:48,040
I have an allergy, uh...
1057
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,534
- Quincke's edema.
- Doctor's statement.
1058
01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:55,721
I can drop dead if I do drugs.
1059
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,760
Luckily I don't have an alcohol
allergy. I can drink beer in peace.
1060
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,240
And I've been drunk sometimes.
1061
01:35:05,024 --> 01:35:07,377
I've never ran somebody over as well.
1062
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:09,840
- Well... No, sorry.
- Do not.
1063
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,280
No, sorry, sorry.
1064
01:35:15,283 --> 01:35:17,200
What about that alibi?
1065
01:35:17,548 --> 01:35:20,840
It doesn't matter what we
say about it, right?
1066
01:35:21,344 --> 01:35:25,280
Yes, we said different things.
You can't change that
1067
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:31,320
When we say we are mistaken,
De Hond calls us pathological liars.
1068
01:35:31,493 --> 01:35:35,480
Then everyone runs after it. But if
Louwes and his wife are mistaken...
1069
01:35:35,531 --> 01:35:36,541
That's true.
1070
01:35:36,592 --> 01:35:40,520
Louwes and his wife also contradicted
each other on this same point.
1071
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:41,680
I know.
1072
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:46,948
...Louwes and mister De Hond. But when
we say something, we are the liars
1073
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,320
But then there is the point of
knowing the perpetrator.
1074
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:57,520
Yes but...
1075
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,000
I don't want to say anything about that.
1076
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,937
At that time the police
questioned Michael about it
1077
01:36:05,609 --> 01:36:07,680
and decided not to prosecute him.
1078
01:36:09,101 --> 01:36:12,440
It doesn't make my story
any more credible, but...
1079
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,480
But a DNA test will.
1080
01:36:14,835 --> 01:36:17,102
I presume you know
about the nail dirt?
1081
01:36:17,152 --> 01:36:19,720
Mr. Haan, my
client is not crazy.
1082
01:36:19,987 --> 01:36:25,360
I understand the risk,
but it could end all discussion.
1083
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:30,040
Oh, just when I was beginning to believe
that your opportunism had limits.
1084
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,640
It's definitely not that, but...
1085
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,158
Look, if you do it
and you don't like the results
1086
01:36:36,208 --> 01:36:40,120
you can keep
sweep it under the rug.
1087
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,560
Says the journalist.
1088
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,240
You don't have to tell me anything.
1089
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,624
Such a test can probably
be done anonymously.
1090
01:36:46,674 --> 01:36:50,560
Independently
and with a notary...
1091
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:51,880
No, we'll do it.
1092
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,773
- Michael.
- No, and I want Mr. Haan to film that.
1093
01:36:57,773 --> 01:37:00,640
So everyone can see,
huh, that there's...
1094
01:37:01,992 --> 01:37:04,040
- that it is clear.
- Michael.
1095
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,360
One in 25 men has that profile.
1096
01:37:06,570 --> 01:37:08,854
And then I got it, so what?
1097
01:37:09,242 --> 01:37:13,240
Then everyone will think I did it.
What's the difference with now?
1098
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,480
We're already dead anyway.
1099
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,480
Don't make it too late...
1100
01:37:39,127 --> 01:37:41,630
The final report of Brouwer's
exploratory investigation
1101
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,960
has been leaked.
1102
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:44,205
Of course.
1103
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,040
And? Any news?
1104
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,212
No.
1105
01:37:51,462 --> 01:37:54,320
Then the motive and knowledge
of the perpetrator remain.
1106
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,080
What did Michael himself say about it?
1107
01:38:01,629 --> 01:38:03,789
He doesn't want to
say anything about that.
1108
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,367
I didn't ask about the motive.
1109
01:38:05,418 --> 01:38:09,003
- That wouldn't prove anything.
- What was it again?
1110
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,960
Mrs Wittenberg would have
cut his bequest in half...
1111
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,680
and he allegedly killed her
in a drunken brawl.
1112
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,556
Well, that remains a point
for Maurice then.
1113
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,480
If we assume that.
1114
01:38:53,812 --> 01:38:58,460
If Maurice and the judiciary have
determined that halving of the bequest..
1115
01:38:59,236 --> 01:39:01,413
then you have to explain me how.
1116
01:39:02,677 --> 01:39:03,917
This is the old one.
1117
01:39:06,385 --> 01:39:09,440
'To Mr. MC de Jong, free of duties
and costs...
1118
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,560
an amount in cash of 25,000 guilders.'
1119
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,200
This is the new one.
1120
01:39:15,986 --> 01:39:18,655
'To Mr. MC de Jong,
free of duties and costs...
1121
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,720
an amount in cash
of 25,000 guilders.'
1122
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,840
- No.
- Yes.
1123
01:39:24,828 --> 01:39:28,628
- And no one has ever checked this?
- No one. Yes, me now.
1124
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:39,874
One more to go.
1125
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:41,593
Yes.
1126
01:39:42,171 --> 01:39:45,554
But he doesn't want
to say anything about that. Anyway.
1127
01:39:46,530 --> 01:39:50,475
If the DNA test shows it isn't him,
then it isn't him.
1128
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,440
Maybe he doesn't dare.
1129
01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:01,760
It's kind of like Russian roulette,
right?
1130
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,000
Do you already have that one?
1131
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,680
- With the door?
- Yes.
1132
01:40:17,758 --> 01:40:20,320
No, that's not going to work.
It's too dark.
1133
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:22,960
Shit.
1134
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:28,412
Sorry, we weren't ready yet.
Would you like to step out again?
1135
01:40:43,959 --> 01:40:45,799
- How is it going?
- Yes...
1136
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,360
What are you doing, man?
1137
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,240
Yeah, uh, I had to report myself.
1138
01:40:51,532 --> 01:40:52,612
For what?
1139
01:41:01,371 --> 01:41:04,080
Mr De Jong, come on in.
1140
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,200
Hello.
1141
01:41:09,012 --> 01:41:10,080
Michael de Jong.
1142
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:11,400
- Frans.
- Hi.
1143
01:41:21,558 --> 01:41:26,600
Several people stated that you had said
at Mrs Wittenberg's funeral...
1144
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,600
that her body was found in the living
room and the time of the finding.
1145
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:32,400
That's right?
1146
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:35,455
Yes, everyone had questions.
1147
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,040
And you had answers?
1148
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,680
So unreal.
Last Wednesday I was still with her.
1149
01:41:46,572 --> 01:41:48,052
That's bizarre.
1150
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,440
No one says or knows anything.
1151
01:41:59,373 --> 01:42:03,490
But how? That information was only
known to the police.
1152
01:42:04,357 --> 01:42:06,160
Oh that uh...
1153
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:07,920
I did not know that.
1154
01:42:08,209 --> 01:42:10,320
Do you know what that means?
1155
01:42:11,618 --> 01:42:14,640
This means that you have
perpetrator knowledge.
1156
01:42:21,587 --> 01:42:23,640
Do you understand what I just said?
1157
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,719
Yes, but it sounds so absurd.
Perpetrator knowledge.
1158
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:31,720
How did you know she was laying there?
1159
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,520
- I had heard that.
- From whom?
1160
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,320
From someone.
1161
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,000
Someone?
1162
01:42:44,210 --> 01:42:46,186
Come on, it's coming out anyway.
1163
01:42:48,811 --> 01:42:51,522
It must have been
a real massacre.
1164
01:42:51,774 --> 01:42:54,360
I overheard a
detective talking about it.
1165
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:56,760
Five stabs to her chest.
1166
01:43:09,150 --> 01:43:11,158
So you protect the perpetrator?
1167
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,600
I don't want
to get anyone in trouble.
1168
01:43:14,830 --> 01:43:17,840
If you continue like this,
you will be in trouble.
1169
01:43:19,289 --> 01:43:23,200
She didn't show up for a
hairdressing appointment on Saturday.
1170
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,108
Her regular hairdresser
called the police.
1171
01:43:26,273 --> 01:43:28,200
The card said Thursday.
1172
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,920
Then she was murdered.
They didn't find her until Saturday.
1173
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:33,360
In the living room.
1174
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:36,280
Well, hey.
1175
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,920
Sst. Yes.
1176
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,448
Well, has it been recorded?
1177
01:44:04,839 --> 01:44:06,640
Otherwise we'll do it again.
1178
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,760
Then we are just as happy.
1179
01:44:14,423 --> 01:44:17,640
It's golden, Bas.
How many minutes do you need?
1180
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,640
The exclusion of Michael on the
basis of the DNA test...
1181
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,320
the new DNA evidence against Louwes,
his possible motive...
1182
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:29,360
the interview with Professor Van Mourik
about this, the De Hond method...
1183
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:31,760
The whole broadcast.
1184
01:44:32,291 --> 01:44:33,560
Well, you're in luck.
1185
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,040
Rein needs more time for that
special on campaign finance,
1186
01:44:37,617 --> 01:44:38,832
so Wednesday.
1187
01:44:38,883 --> 01:44:40,520
- In two days?
- Yes.
1188
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,200
I can't make it. There are
hours of material.
1189
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,080
No, I understand.
1190
01:44:45,332 --> 01:44:49,200
Let's see. Well, then... yes, then
Tuesday. Next week. Can you manage that?
1191
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:51,200
Yes.
1192
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,319
It is absolutely
impossible that the...
1193
01:44:59,369 --> 01:45:03,280
handyman left the
DNA on the nails.
1194
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:08,840
Eh, title of Eikelenboom. Then I would
do the microscope shot now.
1195
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,080
Oh no, wait. uh...
1196
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:20,454
Just put the quote from Vlug here,
that's better.
1197
01:45:21,095 --> 01:45:23,640
This is rock solid technical proof...
1198
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:28,322
that Michael de Jong cannot be linked to
the murder in any way.
1199
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:38,880
Yes.
1200
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,560
Mireille, do you have those recordings
of Van Koppen?
1201
01:45:45,364 --> 01:45:48,040
- What is this?
- Maurice's weblog.
1202
01:45:48,755 --> 01:45:53,680
"Murder weapon in Deventer murder case
may be under the widow's tombstone."
1203
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:58,400
"A metal object has been found that
strongly resembles a knife."
1204
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,600
"I call on the judiciary to
open the grave."
1205
01:46:01,902 --> 01:46:05,800
- How does he get this?
- From the manager of the cemetery.
1206
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,160
And he comes with this after
seven years?
1207
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,160
He says the police didn't write
everything down at the time.
1208
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:12,840
Bas, it's Vlug.
1209
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,360
- Hello?
- Have you seen Maurice's website yet?
1210
01:46:18,740 --> 01:46:22,440
- Yes, I just saw it.
- When do you think you can broadcast?
1211
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,760
- Next Tuesday.
- Only then?
1212
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,888
Yes.
1213
01:46:28,263 --> 01:46:30,080
Then De Hond
can shoot for a week.
1214
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,355
Yes.
1215
01:46:31,405 --> 01:46:34,080
This evening, Plasman is sitting
at 'Pauw & Witteman'.
1216
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,128
How do I explain this
to Michael and Meike?
1217
01:46:37,380 --> 01:46:40,080
Yes, I know, but
it can't be sooner.
1218
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,240
Why didn't the cemetery manager
raise alarm sooner?
1219
01:46:44,590 --> 01:46:49,680
Eh, he did, he says. He was then
questioned by the police at the time.
1220
01:46:50,064 --> 01:46:56,049
Eh, there is also a mutation to
be found in the journal of the research.
1221
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:02,760
Only he says: What I said then does not
correspond to what it says now.
1222
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,926
He had given very
specific information.
1223
01:47:05,059 --> 01:47:06,080
What then?
1224
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:10,840
That he spoke to the widow
on the morning of the murder.
1225
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,228
And that she said, I'm going
to tell the handyman today...
1226
01:47:14,278 --> 01:47:16,160
that he is going out of my will.
1227
01:47:16,381 --> 01:47:18,840
She couldn't do that at all, asshole.
1228
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,880
Maurice de Hond has put
together a German team.
1229
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:31,879
They specialize in detecting
metal objects underground.
1230
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:34,600
With Bas.
1231
01:47:35,545 --> 01:47:36,360
Yes.
1232
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,235
Yes I know.
1233
01:47:39,620 --> 01:47:41,055
I've seen it.
1234
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:43,975
I'm going as fast as I can.
1235
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,978
If everyone didn't disturb me all day...
Yes.
1236
01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:50,160
Okay. Yes.
1237
01:47:52,033 --> 01:47:54,885
I cannot tell you what kind of
metal, but there is something.
1238
01:47:55,252 --> 01:47:56,800
What now?
1239
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,521
Oh sorry, it's you.
1240
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,960
- The broadcast is moved to Monday.
- What?
1241
01:48:02,440 --> 01:48:05,157
A week later. Yes, sorry,
extra party leader debate...
1242
01:48:05,207 --> 01:48:06,680
and Wilders will also come.
1243
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,788
Damn it Gerda,
you can't do that.
1244
01:48:08,838 --> 01:48:11,080
Do you know
how many times Vlug called?
1245
01:48:11,218 --> 01:48:14,800
Then you say that if we
don't broadcast that debate, RTL will.
1246
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,834
At the same time. And then no one
will watch your report.
1247
01:48:20,010 --> 01:48:21,210
Sorry, Bas.
1248
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,714
I thought you could use a shot.
1249
01:48:29,247 --> 01:48:30,287
Thank you.
1250
01:48:40,431 --> 01:48:43,120
Is the grave now guarded?
1251
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,080
- Of course.
- By who?
1252
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,520
- By people.
- Yes, but is that police?
1253
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,800
So not police,
it could be police now.
1254
01:48:52,940 --> 01:48:55,600
Where does he pay it all from?
1255
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:56,773
What do you mean?
1256
01:48:57,457 --> 01:48:59,840
How much do you think
such a Plasman costs?
1257
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,880
- He's just there for the publicity.
- Even still.
1258
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:10,880
Private detectives, a team of German
tomb investigators, 24/7 surveillance..
1259
01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:20,040
- I don't think that Gerda...
- Ah, Gerda. Just a few phone calls.
1260
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,920
- Follow the money.
- Yes, indeed.
1261
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:38,040
It's 10 past 1. Good afternoon
and welcome to Stand.nl.
1262
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:43,800
Our position: Maurice de Hond must
stop insinuating. Call 0800-1101.
1263
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,800
- Good afternoon, this is Truus.
- Hello, Truus.
1264
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:54,200
- I absolutely disagree. That
gentleman is absolutely innocent.
1265
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:58,693
As he reacted on
TV to the statement...
1266
01:49:58,743 --> 01:50:02,800
Well, go on. Maurice de Hond, go on.
1267
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:04,960
Thank you. Good afternoon.
1268
01:50:05,509 --> 01:50:11,400
Michael de J., that handyman,
is obviously not right in his head.
1269
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,960
And the Deventer police force is
blackmailable as I'm concerned.
1270
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,040
That handyman is completely stuck.
What do you think of that?
1271
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,908
Let's stay away
from that lawsuit.
1272
01:50:22,958 --> 01:50:26,200
He's accusing an unconvicted.
1273
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:30,400
Lady Justice has long since lost her
blindfold a long time ago.
1274
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,720
He knows what he is doing.
1275
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:38,160
6 a clock. The NOS Radio 1 Journal with
Karin van den Boogaert.
1276
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,280
Because of growing social unrest,
the judge has decided...
1277
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,760
to open the grave of the
widow Wittenberg.
1278
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:51,720
Unbelievable, what a circus!
1279
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,960
At 3:00 PM the grave has been lifted.
1280
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,720
The stone is from the tomb and
is being examined for traces.
1281
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:03,400
And much more importantly:
the knife can finally be searched for.
1282
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,240
Each layer of sand is sieved.
Not an inch is looked over.
1283
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:14,164
You always leave behind DNA...
1284
01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:20,440
It was just announced that no knife
was found in the grave.
1285
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,995
The grave was opened
after Maurice de Hond...
1286
01:51:23,045 --> 01:51:25,480
suggested the murder
weapon might lay in the grave.
1287
01:51:32,303 --> 01:51:34,520
I'm so glad we're airing on Monday.
1288
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:07,280
- I made some more phone calls.
- What?
1289
01:52:07,586 --> 01:52:10,080
Don't you remember:
who pays for all this?
1290
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,160
Holy fuck.
1291
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,840
- Who is De Lange?
- What is De Lange is a better question.
1292
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:31,040
OK, what?
1293
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:36,000
He's rich. It's an entrepreneur
with parking garages, call centers...
1294
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,884
And what does he have
to do with Maurice De Hond?
1295
01:52:38,934 --> 01:52:40,531
It's in this contract.
1296
01:52:42,279 --> 01:52:46,600
'...that the collaboration aside
from the Deventer murder case...
1297
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:50,720
will consist of the establishment of a
socio-political organization...
1298
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,440
with the provisional name Wij 21.'
1299
01:52:56,736 --> 01:53:00,240
So Deventer as the starting shot
of a political movement?
1300
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:05,040
It says 'Maurice de Hond will take on
the role of eye-catcher.'
1301
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,040
Handy, then he can poll himself.
1302
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,040
This is really sick.
1303
01:53:10,900 --> 01:53:14,320
And then point three:
De Lange also wants his money back.
1304
01:53:14,440 --> 01:53:18,360
Maurice must then conduct a damage
procedure against the OM or the state.
1305
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:23,640
In other words: Maurice has to litigate
all the way. No choice.
1306
01:53:23,936 --> 01:53:25,480
This should be on the air.
1307
01:53:26,011 --> 01:53:27,560
Do we have this exclusive?
1308
01:53:27,829 --> 01:53:30,520
Joep Dohmen beat me.
It is in the NRC this afternoon.
1309
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,917
- Will you manage before tonight?
- No, impossible.
1310
01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:36,520
Okay, then Thursday.
1311
01:53:36,837 --> 01:53:38,480
That broadcast is almost done.
1312
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:42,206
Then I'll ask Ellen to start
and we turn it around
1313
01:53:44,316 --> 01:53:48,543
No, sorry, no more delay.
I can't do that, not again.
1314
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:58,960
Yes that's OK. Yes.
1315
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,360
Get out, Haan.
1316
01:54:07,480 --> 01:54:09,840
- Good luck, huh.
- Come on, let's start.
1317
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:15,840
Live in five, four, three...
1318
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,880
Exculpatory DNA evidence in the
Deventer murder case. This is Network.
1319
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:26,400
Oh, Meike, it's starting.
1320
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,160
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Good evening.
1321
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,680
New facts in the controversial
Deventer murder case.
1322
01:54:47,908 --> 01:54:53,000
A case that has grown into a battle
with supporters and opponents.
1323
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:58,160
One is convinced that Ernest Louwes
has been rightly convicted.
1324
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:03,338
The other thinks the murdered widow's
handyman must have done it.
1325
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,280
What is the truth in this murder case?
1326
01:55:06,605 --> 01:55:11,320
Reporter Bas Haan investigated the case
and uncovered new facts...
1327
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:16,600
about exculpatory DNA evidence
and a possible motive.
1328
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,120
Seven years ago, the widow was murdered.
1329
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:23,800
The Deventer murder case is now one
of the most sensational...
1330
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,760
criminal cases, thanks to the
actions of Maurice de Hond.
1331
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,720
Last week the widow's grave
was opened...
1332
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,520
in search of the handyman's
murder weapon.
1333
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:38,720
In vain. The handyman's lawyer is now
demanding a gag order against De Hond.
1334
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:44,087
Just try defend yourself against
De Hond and such press offensive.
1335
01:55:44,138 --> 01:55:45,320
That's almost impossible.
1336
01:55:45,422 --> 01:55:46,927
I've done everything...
1337
01:55:47,006 --> 01:55:51,878
to update the Dutch
people via my website.
1338
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,919
De Hond is convinced that the
DNA evidence is worthless.
1339
01:55:56,160 --> 01:56:00,520
But this story is not about
conspiracy theories, but about facts.
1340
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:06,120
The DNA in this case is crucial.
And now comes another revelation.
1341
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:10,200
Additional DNA testing
relieves the handyman.
1342
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:16,200
It is absolutely impossible that the
handyman left the DNA on the nails.
1343
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,320
This is rock solid technical proof...
1344
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:24,182
that Michael de Jong cannot be
linked to the murder in any way.
1345
01:56:58,735 --> 01:57:00,440
Well.
1346
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,017
Yes.
1347
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:03,708
Basje.
1348
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,120
Gerda.
1349
01:57:06,506 --> 01:57:08,400
- Well done.
- Thank you.
1350
01:57:08,748 --> 01:57:11,120
- Hey, hoppakee.
- Nice man.
1351
01:57:11,454 --> 01:57:13,480
- Top.
- Thanks to you, huh.
1352
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,640
- Let's go have a drink somewhere.
- Good plan.
1353
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,240
Well done.
1354
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:25,320
Come on.
1355
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,520
Good? -Ja.
1356
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,640
All right.
1357
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,280
Sorry, are you perhaps Bas Haan?
1358
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:53,560
Certainly.
1359
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:57,080
Do you have
Richard Eikelenboom's number?
1360
01:57:58,842 --> 01:58:00,360
What do you need that for?
1361
01:58:01,122 --> 01:58:05,160
'Reporter' is going to make an hour and
a half special about the Deventer case.
1362
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:07,040
Is there any news then?
1363
01:58:07,244 --> 01:58:13,080
An American DNA expert declares that
the evidence against Louwes is nothing.
1364
01:58:16,216 --> 01:58:19,250
So what does the expert say
about the combination...
1365
01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:22,080
of saliva, touch marks,
blood and nail dirt?
1366
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,120
Which nail dirt?
1367
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,113
Have you seen my report?
1368
01:58:26,654 --> 01:58:29,080
Or are you going to
say: Which report?
1369
01:58:33,361 --> 01:58:35,040
Do you still have
that number for me?
1370
01:58:35,679 --> 01:58:37,094
What do you think?
1371
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,240
Better look at my report first, fool!
1372
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:50,640
Thank God it's Friday.
1373
01:58:50,908 --> 01:58:53,914
Tonight, Yolanthe Cabau van Kasbergen..
1374
01:58:53,964 --> 01:58:56,861
Arthur Japin, Javier Guzman...
1375
01:58:57,119 --> 01:59:00,603
Bastiaan Geleijnse,
Don Diego Powder...
1376
01:59:00,653 --> 01:59:03,119
Pieter Jan Hagens,
Maurice de Hond...
1377
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,640
and Claudia de Breij.
1378
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,752
They didn't take anything away
from my broadcast.
1379
01:59:10,837 --> 01:59:12,799
They didn't even see it.
1380
01:59:15,448 --> 01:59:18,000
Like it never fucking aired.
1381
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:33,471
- Here is Maurice the Hond.
- What the fuck.
1382
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:57,960
Maurice, yesterday sentenced to
two months conditional
1383
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:03,480
Does his mean you can never say
again: the handyman did it?
1384
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:09,560
If I don't comply with the ruling,
I will be jailed for two months.
1385
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:13,840
Are you never going to say again:
Michael de Jong did it?
1386
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,640
I am prepared to do a lot for
this program...
1387
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,485
but not prison for two months.
1388
02:00:20,535 --> 02:00:23,463
No, but I was
wondering because you...
1389
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:29,280
I admire your fanaticism in this case.
And your sense of justice.
1390
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:33,880
If you can't say it, can you sing it?
1391
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,240
- I think only Jan Smit.
- Only Jan Smit.
1392
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:41,360
Because I was thinking about…
1393
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:42,480
about...
1394
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:47,920
thinking about 'the Deventer
murder case: the musical'.
1395
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:05,288
Fucking circus.
1396
02:02:06,446 --> 02:02:10,840
If more than 200,000 people have
watched that crap, I'll write a book.
1397
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,360
- A book?
- A book.
1398
02:02:12,980 --> 02:02:16,760
No broadcast schedule, budget,
so few minutes to cram it all into.
1399
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,800
Just a book. With all the facts about
the case. All the facts.
1400
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,740
Do you think people
are waiting for that?
1401
02:02:22,790 --> 02:02:25,440
Yes, people want to know
what's really going on.
1402
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,237
I firmly believe that.
1403
02:02:27,819 --> 02:02:32,360
But it is made them incredibly difficult
by people who throw sand in their eyes.
1404
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:36,880
I want to be able to say: Do you want
the facts? There they are, in that book.
1405
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:42,160
Researched, checked and checked again.
And if you want to ignore them...
1406
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:44,995
they are still there.
Those facts exist...
1407
02:02:45,045 --> 02:02:47,360
are real, and are not going away.
1408
02:02:48,540 --> 02:02:49,569
What?
1409
02:02:49,620 --> 02:02:52,960
Do you know how many books are
published per year?
1410
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:56,440
I'll make sure people know it's there.
1411
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,473
If necessary, I will
enter the circus myself.
1412
02:02:59,035 --> 02:03:00,400
The circus?
1413
02:03:00,486 --> 02:03:02,698
January 2009
1414
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:39,160
It is one of the most talked
about lawsuits of all time.
1415
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,200
Who killed the wealthy widow
Wittenberg in 1999?
1416
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:47,040
Ernest Louwes was convicted, acquitted
and then through DNA testing...
1417
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,960
sentenced to 12 years.
29 judges were involved in the case.
1418
02:03:51,079 --> 02:03:53,524
But in the press, a campaign
led by Maurice de Hond
1419
02:03:53,574 --> 02:03:55,199
questioned
the course of justice.
1420
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,400
The grave has even been opened.
1421
02:03:57,457 --> 02:04:00,691
Journalist Bas Haan wrote 'De Deventer
murder case: the conspiracy unraveled'
1422
02:04:00,793 --> 02:04:01,817
Welcome
1423
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:04,240
You have been on this case
for a long time.
1424
02:04:04,302 --> 02:04:08,184
Tonight I will ask you the question you
surely get asked all the time:
1425
02:04:08,917 --> 02:04:12,080
Who did it?
The handyman, or Ernest Louwes?
1426
02:04:15,357 --> 02:04:18,243
Maurice de Hond
was sentenced for libel,
1427
02:04:18,293 --> 02:04:21,639
and ordered to pay
35.000 Euro in compensation
1428
02:04:21,689 --> 02:04:24,962
to Michael de Jong
and his girlfriend Meike.
1429
02:04:25,048 --> 02:04:30,271
A, for Dutch standards,
exceptionally high figure.
1430
02:04:30,321 --> 02:04:36,196
He never retracted any of
his accusations against Michael de Jong.
1431
02:04:36,782 --> 02:04:39,383
Michael de Jong could
never find a job again.
1432
02:04:39,433 --> 02:04:41,496
Michael has an autoimmune disease.
1433
02:04:41,547 --> 02:04:45,731
Medical research has shown that
the chance of getting this disease
1434
02:04:45,781 --> 02:04:48,434
is greatly increased
by chronical stress.
1435
02:04:48,547 --> 02:04:54,120
The financial compensation of 35.000
Euro was entirely spend on legal costs.
1436
02:04:54,785 --> 02:04:59,213
Ernest Louwes served his sentence and
is currently an employed citizen again.
1437
02:04:59,263 --> 02:05:03,342
He still fights for his acquittal
through his lawyer Knoops.
1438
02:05:03,397 --> 02:05:10,626
In 2014 the Supreme court started researching
a possible re-opening of the case.
1439
02:05:10,889 --> 02:05:13,013
In consultation with Knoops,
1440
02:05:13,063 --> 02:05:17,708
an English DNA expert
has been appointed for a third opinion".
1441
02:05:17,758 --> 02:05:19,553
In 2019, the expert also confirmed
1442
02:05:19,603 --> 02:05:23,112
the most important conclusions
of the NFI about the DNA evidence,
1443
02:05:23,162 --> 02:05:25,289
the basis for
the conviction of Louwes.
1444
02:05:25,844 --> 02:05:31,063
Bas Haan is currently
a research journalist for Nieuwsuur.
1445
02:05:31,118 --> 02:05:34,143
His reporting
has received numerous awards
1446
02:05:34,193 --> 02:05:39,978
Among them "De Tegel" three times, the
most important Dutch journalistic prize.
1447
02:05:40,028 --> 02:05:43,738
In 2015 he was chosen
as journalist of the year.
1448
02:05:44,238 --> 02:05:48,463
Nothing has been heard anymore
from the political movement "Wij 21",
1449
02:05:48,513 --> 02:05:51,113
which was founded by
de Hond en de Lange.
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