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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:08,508 Yeah. 2 00:00:13,847 --> 00:00:17,177 We were told that, you'll never make it from Liverpool. 3 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:19,059 You'll never make it. 4 00:00:19,061 --> 00:00:21,481 Of course, that just strengthened our resolve. 5 00:00:22,147 --> 00:00:23,814 "We'll show you, mate." 6 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:24,685 You know? ‐ Yeah. 7 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:26,567 ‐ We thought we were different. 8 00:00:26,568 --> 00:00:28,028 ‐ Yeah. ‐ We knew we were different. 9 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:33,992 And then that, um... found its way into the music. 10 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:37,703 Lovely Rita playing 11 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:43,714 ‐ Ah 12 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:50,182 Lovely Rita, meter maid 13 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:55,806 Lovely Rita, meter maid 14 00:00:56,473 --> 00:00:59,225 Lovely Rita, meter maid 15 00:00:59,226 --> 00:01:01,936 Nothing can come between us 16 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:06,022 When it gets dark I tow your heart away 17 00:01:07,985 --> 00:01:10,735 Standing by a parking meter 18 00:01:10,737 --> 00:01:13,364 When I caught a glimpse of Rita 19 00:01:13,365 --> 00:01:16,485 Filling in a ticket in her little white book 20 00:01:16,493 --> 00:01:19,287 In a cap she looked much older 21 00:01:19,288 --> 00:01:21,664 And the bag across her shoulder 22 00:01:21,665 --> 00:01:24,495 Made her look a little like a military man 23 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:27,461 Paul humming music 24 00:01:27,963 --> 00:01:29,801 - Hm. - It's just so interesting. 25 00:01:29,802 --> 00:01:32,178 The choices you're making in the playing. 26 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:38,764 I think the bass is really straight. 27 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:40,095 ‐ Pretty straight, yeah. 28 00:01:42,311 --> 00:01:43,731 I come in and ruin it. 29 00:01:45,147 --> 00:01:46,606 ‐ Good thing you wrote it. 30 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:49,647 ‐ Lovely Rita, meter maid 31 00:01:49,651 --> 00:01:52,486 Where would I be without you? 32 00:01:52,487 --> 00:01:55,947 Give us a wink and make me think of you 33 00:01:55,949 --> 00:02:00,119 Lovely Rita meter maid 34 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:05,327 Lovely Rita meter maid 35 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:07,916 ‐ It feels almost like the bass is doing 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,090 like what an orchestra would do, you know. 37 00:02:10,091 --> 00:02:13,548 It's adding all of the other counterpoint... 38 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:15,220 ‐ Yeah. ‐ ...and extra rhythm. 39 00:02:15,221 --> 00:02:17,799 ‐ But then when the vocal comes in, I get out the way. 40 00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:21,888 But then I come back, I'm too tempted‐‐ 41 00:02:21,892 --> 00:02:23,476 Yeah, yeah. 42 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:26,727 ‐ But, uh, I like doing that, you know. 43 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:28,360 ‐ You started as a guitar player though. 44 00:02:28,941 --> 00:02:32,861 ‐ Yeah, me and John were the guitar players. Yeah. 45 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:37,156 I used to think I could be lead guitar. 46 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:37,907 ‐ Yeah. 47 00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:40,368 ‐ Because at home, I could, I could play nice little songs. 48 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:45,039 But I got terrible stage fright at a place in Liverpool 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,590 um, called Broadway, funnily enough. 50 00:02:49,044 --> 00:02:51,796 Oh, it just came my time to play the solo 51 00:02:51,797 --> 00:02:53,167 and I, aah, 52 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:54,423 I, like, froze, you know, 53 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:57,760 sticky fingers and nothing would work. 54 00:02:57,761 --> 00:03:00,391 And after that, I thought, right, no more lead. 55 00:03:00,889 --> 00:03:03,349 That's it, you know, we'll give that to somebody else. 56 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:03,930 ‐ Wow. 57 00:03:03,934 --> 00:03:07,436 ‐ But yeah, I did start on guitar, originally acoustic, 58 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:09,567 and then, uh, when we went to Hamburg, 59 00:03:09,568 --> 00:03:12,775 I bought a little electric guitar, very cheap. 60 00:03:12,776 --> 00:03:14,026 But it looked good. ‐ Yeah. 61 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:15,397 ‐ Looked kind of rock and roll. 62 00:03:15,404 --> 00:03:16,784 Kind of red thing, 63 00:03:16,785 --> 00:03:18,410 Rosetti Lucky 7. 64 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:20,578 But it was terrible. 65 00:03:20,579 --> 00:03:23,366 But I could‐‐ you know, it worked until we got to Hamburg 66 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:25,000 and then it fell apart. 67 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:28,379 So then I would, I was turning my back on the audience 68 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:29,455 and playing piano. 69 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,593 But it was good. Good practice. 70 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:34,633 For a bass player, we had Stuart, 71 00:03:34,634 --> 00:03:36,801 who was a friend of John's from art school, 72 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:39,931 but he ended up wanting to stay in Hamburg 73 00:03:39,932 --> 00:03:41,098 because he fell in love. 74 00:03:41,513 --> 00:03:45,683 So then it was a question of me, John, or George becoming the bass player, 75 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:47,644 and the two of them said, well, I'm not doing it. 76 00:03:50,105 --> 00:03:51,855 So it was‐‐ I was left. 77 00:03:51,857 --> 00:03:54,066 ‐ Were you already writing songs at this point or not really? 78 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,276 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 79 00:03:55,277 --> 00:03:56,736 ‐ Even from the Hamburg days? 80 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:57,987 ‐ Before. 81 00:03:57,988 --> 00:03:59,238 ‐ Really? ‐ Yeah. 82 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:02,029 I wrote, um, my first one when I was like 14. 83 00:04:02,034 --> 00:04:02,664 ‐ Wow. 84 00:04:02,665 --> 00:04:05,449 ‐ And that was just a little, little guitar thing. 85 00:04:06,205 --> 00:04:07,655 Uh, do you want me to show you? ‐ Yes. 86 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:08,544 ‐ Okay. ‐ Let's go. 87 00:04:08,545 --> 00:04:10,170 ‐ I will find a guitar. 88 00:04:15,506 --> 00:04:18,626 Yeah, I liked the idea that the baseline would go up. 89 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,510 Then I wanted this to come down. 90 00:04:28,185 --> 00:04:31,354 So you get that little thing. That was the big thing for me. 91 00:04:31,355 --> 00:04:32,475 ‐ Yeah. ‐ So it was just‐‐ 92 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:35,066 I woke up late this morning 93 00:04:35,067 --> 00:04:37,147 My head was in a whirl 94 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:40,696 Only then I realized 95 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:42,317 I lost my little girl 96 00:04:42,324 --> 00:04:44,584 Her clothes were not expensive 97 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,405 Her hair didn't always curl 98 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:51,120 Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah 99 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:58,260 But it is interesting, the first song I should write 100 00:04:58,261 --> 00:05:01,127 has got a little contra vocal thing going. 101 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:01,974 ‐ Absolutely. 102 00:05:01,975 --> 00:05:03,759 ‐ I'm fingering down on that‐‐ 103 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:06,222 ‐ Two parts going on at the same time right out of the box. 104 00:05:06,223 --> 00:05:09,016 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Unusual for a young kid. 105 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:10,847 ‐ Yeah. You know, and it's a funny thing 106 00:05:10,853 --> 00:05:12,812 as you get older, you think, 107 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:14,730 well, how did I know that? 108 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:17,400 ‐ Yes. ‐ And I, I haven't got an answer. 109 00:05:17,401 --> 00:05:20,401 Vocalizing 110 00:05:33,542 --> 00:05:35,672 When John and I had got together 111 00:05:35,673 --> 00:05:39,629 and I told him about that little song that I'd written, 112 00:05:39,631 --> 00:05:41,181 and I'd written a couple of others. 113 00:05:41,182 --> 00:05:42,505 And he said, so have I. 114 00:05:43,177 --> 00:05:45,717 And that was, that was the big difference. 115 00:05:45,721 --> 00:05:47,430 I talked to other people, 116 00:05:47,431 --> 00:05:49,140 and they sort of said, "Well, what do you do?" 117 00:05:49,141 --> 00:05:50,351 I said, "Oh, I've got a hobby, 118 00:05:50,352 --> 00:05:53,019 I kind of, I've written a couple of songs." 119 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,980 And most people would just ignore that and go, 120 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:58,981 "Oh okay, you know, what sports do you like," and move on. 121 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:02,074 But, uh, when I said that to John, he said, "Yeah, so have I." 122 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:04,910 I said, "Oh yeah, great. 123 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:07,366 "Well, let me see yours, 124 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:09,327 I'll show you mine," kind of thing, you know. 125 00:06:09,328 --> 00:06:10,198 And that was it. 126 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:11,874 We, we started writing together 127 00:06:12,414 --> 00:06:13,674 with that in mind, you know. 128 00:06:15,209 --> 00:06:18,127 This Boy playing 129 00:06:24,468 --> 00:06:26,798 ‐ That boy 130 00:06:26,803 --> 00:06:28,353 ‐ You know, we were trying to make money. 131 00:06:28,354 --> 00:06:30,306 We were kind of guys, none of us was rich, 132 00:06:30,307 --> 00:06:34,017 so we would play pubs and ballrooms. 133 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:38,314 The Aintree Institute would have, like, a dance. 134 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:39,435 Hmm. 135 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:42,241 But when we'd got Brian Epstein as our manager, 136 00:06:42,242 --> 00:06:46,486 Brian said, you could play cabaret clubs, 137 00:06:47,533 --> 00:06:49,702 but you'll have to smarten up. ‐ Hm. 138 00:06:49,703 --> 00:06:51,748 ‐ Because we were a bit rock and roll. ‐ Yeah. 139 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:53,495 ‐ He says you'll have to sort of smarten up, 140 00:06:53,497 --> 00:06:56,287 and you'll have to do your more sort of ballady songs. 141 00:06:56,291 --> 00:06:58,791 It can't just be a straight rock and roll set. 142 00:06:58,794 --> 00:06:59,794 ‐ Mm‐hmm. 143 00:06:59,837 --> 00:07:01,707 ‐ But you could see this at a cabaret club. 144 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:03,381 ‐ Yeah, for sure. 145 00:07:03,382 --> 00:07:07,134 ‐ You know, ladies and gentlemen, presenting the Beatles. 146 00:07:07,135 --> 00:07:09,925 Lights go down, little spots come up. 147 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:12,348 ‐ Back again 148 00:07:12,349 --> 00:07:13,349 ‐ Let's see. 149 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:15,271 ‐ And then we get John's‐‐ 150 00:07:15,272 --> 00:07:18,649 Oh, and this boy 151 00:07:19,314 --> 00:07:20,024 No music. 152 00:07:20,025 --> 00:07:21,943 ‐ Would be happy 153 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,106 Just to love you 154 00:07:26,029 --> 00:07:30,116 But oh my 155 00:07:30,117 --> 00:07:31,577 That boy 156 00:07:32,411 --> 00:07:34,661 Won't be happy 157 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:42,498 Till he's seen you cry 158 00:07:43,046 --> 00:07:45,376 This boy 159 00:07:45,382 --> 00:07:47,091 ‐ That was beautiful. ‐ Yeah. 160 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:51,637 ‐ Wouldn't mind the pain 161 00:07:54,308 --> 00:07:58,598 ‐ You know, we wanted to, um, show different sides of ourselves. 162 00:07:58,604 --> 00:08:01,564 We could've just been one guy sings the vocal 163 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:02,935 and we'll back him up. 164 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:05,861 But we kept wanting to stretch it a little bit. 165 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:09,028 So this whole song is just a three‐part harmony thing. 166 00:08:09,031 --> 00:08:12,158 ‐ This boy 167 00:08:15,412 --> 00:08:17,712 This boy 168 00:08:18,165 --> 00:08:21,375 ‐ Those were exciting things to do, you know, 169 00:08:21,376 --> 00:08:23,416 to, to branch out like that. 170 00:08:24,129 --> 00:08:26,717 Then we wanted to add these other layers, 171 00:08:26,718 --> 00:08:30,045 which as the Beatles went on, we added more and more. 172 00:08:30,052 --> 00:08:34,555 Something playing 173 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:38,976 Something in the way she moves 174 00:08:42,564 --> 00:08:46,654 Attracts me like no other lover 175 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:54,029 Something in the way she woos me 176 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:58,827 I don't want to leave her now 177 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:02,634 You know I believe and how 178 00:09:07,506 --> 00:09:11,966 Somewhere in her smile she knows 179 00:09:13,512 --> 00:09:15,847 ‐ What is going on with the bass? 180 00:09:15,848 --> 00:09:18,098 Like, it's the greatest thing I've ever heard. 181 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:20,309 ‐ Oh. ‐ How did this happen? 182 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,100 ‐ I mean‐‐ ‐ How does this exist? 183 00:09:22,604 --> 00:09:25,524 ‐ It's very tempting when you're on the bass to sort of go‐‐ 184 00:09:31,363 --> 00:09:33,203 And I probably started simple. 185 00:09:33,204 --> 00:09:34,618 Yeah. 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,910 ‐ And then you might find that the bit we were kind of liking, 187 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,462 it's a nice little melody. 188 00:09:44,877 --> 00:09:48,377 ‐ You're asking me will my love grow 189 00:09:49,006 --> 00:09:50,836 ‐ It's doing so much work 190 00:09:50,841 --> 00:09:54,971 that really is in the service of the record. 191 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:57,887 ‐ It's pretty adventurous, you know. 192 00:09:57,890 --> 00:10:00,180 ‐ Did you have that all worked out before the‐‐ 193 00:10:00,184 --> 00:10:01,184 ‐ No. 194 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:03,848 ‐ So tell me what happens the day of this recording. 195 00:10:03,854 --> 00:10:05,188 What happens? 196 00:10:05,189 --> 00:10:09,399 ‐ Um... George comes in, shows us the song. 197 00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:12,610 That would just be with a guitar and all just 'round, 198 00:10:13,238 --> 00:10:15,408 a couple of chairs 'round a little circle. 199 00:10:16,325 --> 00:10:18,575 It was all fairly instant. ‐ Yeah. 200 00:10:18,577 --> 00:10:20,997 ‐ You know, it's just we've got to do this song. 201 00:10:20,998 --> 00:10:24,116 We've got to do it. Let's just try it every which way, 202 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:26,844 until we settle on, oh yeah, this feels good. 203 00:10:27,669 --> 00:10:29,129 ‐ It's the interaction. 204 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:31,464 ‐ Yeah. 205 00:10:36,887 --> 00:10:37,887 Yeah. 206 00:10:52,236 --> 00:10:53,816 Song ends 207 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:55,279 ‐ Classic George song. 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,448 Alright. 209 00:10:57,449 --> 00:11:00,699 ‐ Do you remember after finishing the song, thinking‐‐ 210 00:11:01,912 --> 00:11:03,502 ‐ It's a good one. ‐ Did you feel that? 211 00:11:03,503 --> 00:11:07,207 ‐ Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think you know the good songs. 212 00:11:07,209 --> 00:11:08,789 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 213 00:11:08,794 --> 00:11:10,304 Would it be whoever wrote the song 214 00:11:10,305 --> 00:11:12,835 would sort of have the vision for the project for that? 215 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,520 ‐ Normally was, yeah. And then I'd butt in. 216 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:17,680 And they'd hate me for it. 217 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,057 I'd go, "But it's a good idea, boys." 218 00:11:20,058 --> 00:11:22,095 ‐ If you had a good idea, it's like‐‐ 219 00:11:22,099 --> 00:11:24,058 ‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ Got to get 'em in. 220 00:11:24,059 --> 00:11:25,809 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Got to get them in. 221 00:11:25,811 --> 00:11:27,601 ‐ I mean, it was kind of an awkward thing, you know, 222 00:11:27,604 --> 00:11:30,361 that if you had a good idea for something, 223 00:11:30,362 --> 00:11:31,477 you'd say it. ‐ Yeah. 224 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:34,068 ‐ But often the other guy would sort of say, well, you play it. 225 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:34,899 ‐ Yeah. 226 00:11:34,903 --> 00:11:36,321 ‐ You know, there was there was a lot of freedom. 227 00:11:36,322 --> 00:11:37,281 ‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah. 228 00:11:37,282 --> 00:11:38,871 ‐ So we did that a lot. 229 00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:43,496 Like, I think I talked to George a lot about the solo on Taxman. 230 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:46,455 And I think that's what happened. 231 00:11:46,456 --> 00:11:47,665 He said, "Well, you play it." 232 00:11:47,666 --> 00:11:50,456 ‐ Taxman 233 00:12:04,183 --> 00:12:06,102 No wonder George said you do it. 234 00:12:06,103 --> 00:12:08,101 ‐ But what was the insp‐‐ Like, what were you‐‐ 235 00:12:08,103 --> 00:12:10,150 ‐ I don't know, just free, free. 236 00:12:10,151 --> 00:12:12,267 I mean, and a little bit of Indian in there, too. 237 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:13,399 ‐ Yeah. 238 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,150 ‐ I wouldn't have thought about it or written it or anything. 239 00:12:16,153 --> 00:12:19,021 It would just be like, oh, it's, the track's so cooking... 240 00:12:19,045 --> 00:12:19,993 Yeah. 241 00:12:19,994 --> 00:12:22,870 ‐ ...that if we're going to have a solo, it should be just ridiculous. 242 00:12:26,163 --> 00:12:27,123 ‐ Amazing. ‐ You know. 243 00:12:27,124 --> 00:12:31,922 ‐ Yeah, I'm the Taxman 244 00:12:33,462 --> 00:12:35,009 Nice bass lick as well. 245 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:37,665 ‐ If you drive a car, I'll tax the street 246 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:41,010 If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat 247 00:12:41,011 --> 00:12:44,721 If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat 248 00:12:44,723 --> 00:12:48,853 If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet 249 00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:53,067 ‐ It was funny because it was like a double‐edged sword. 250 00:12:53,068 --> 00:12:56,105 People sort of saying, well, couldn't you just play straighter, 251 00:12:56,693 --> 00:12:59,153 you know, and I'm going, I don't know. 252 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:01,784 I think it lends something doing all this. 253 00:13:01,785 --> 00:13:05,326 I did get sort of reprimanded once or twice, 254 00:13:05,327 --> 00:13:07,745 for just being too busy. ‐ Yeah. 255 00:13:07,746 --> 00:13:11,496 ‐ But you know, by that time I'd heard James Jamerson. 256 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:15,630 Singing "What's Going On" 257 00:13:41,738 --> 00:13:42,908 ‐ He was great. 258 00:13:42,909 --> 00:13:46,326 He had melodic baselines, and I love that. 259 00:13:46,702 --> 00:13:50,209 It kind of opened my eyes to it. It was like, oh yeah, wow. 260 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:53,165 ‐ Yeah. ‐ You can groove, make it move, you know. 261 00:13:53,542 --> 00:13:56,127 Because originally, the bass player 262 00:13:56,128 --> 00:13:59,088 in the groups in Liverpool, it was the fat guy. 263 00:14:00,382 --> 00:14:02,052 And he would just stand at the back‐‐ 264 00:14:06,889 --> 00:14:09,389 And the guitar player... 265 00:14:09,391 --> 00:14:10,981 He had all the fancy stuff. 266 00:14:11,435 --> 00:14:13,975 But later, when I heard people like James Jamerson, 267 00:14:14,646 --> 00:14:16,476 I realized, wow, you can, 268 00:14:17,441 --> 00:14:20,151 you can really do a big thing with a bass. 269 00:14:20,152 --> 00:14:22,778 You can actually control the band with the bass. 270 00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:23,699 ‐ It's interesting. 271 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:27,487 And it's, it's in some ways, is why we're having this conversation is 272 00:14:28,452 --> 00:14:30,542 the fascination with how important the bass is 273 00:14:30,543 --> 00:14:32,617 in the context of these songs. 274 00:14:32,623 --> 00:14:34,629 And the songs are so ubiquitous in our culture 275 00:14:34,630 --> 00:14:36,705 that we don't really think of them in pieces. 276 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:37,670 ‐ Hm. ‐ Do you know what I mean? 277 00:14:37,671 --> 00:14:40,129 We just think of them as that song. 278 00:14:40,130 --> 00:14:41,260 ‐ That song, yeah. ‐ You know. Yeah, yeah. 279 00:14:41,261 --> 00:14:44,086 ‐ It really happened quite organically in the studio. 280 00:14:44,593 --> 00:14:48,471 Um... you know, my famous occasion 281 00:14:48,472 --> 00:14:50,932 with bass radically altering 282 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:56,185 the whole attitude of the song was when John came in‐‐ 283 00:15:00,526 --> 00:15:01,776 Here come old flat‐top 284 00:15:01,777 --> 00:15:03,817 He come groovin' up slowly 285 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:05,905 He got joo joo eyeball 286 00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:08,776 He one holy roller, he got‐‐ 287 00:15:08,784 --> 00:15:10,954 I said, uh, uh, uh, uh, wait a minute, wait a minute, 288 00:15:11,453 --> 00:15:12,873 that's a Chuck Berry song. 289 00:15:13,372 --> 00:15:14,872 That's a Chuck Berry song, 290 00:15:14,873 --> 00:15:16,583 which is called You Can't Catch Me. 291 00:15:17,334 --> 00:15:18,844 Which not only is like that‐‐ 292 00:15:20,337 --> 00:15:21,797 Yeah, come on 293 00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:25,379 The opening line is, "Here come old flat‐top." 294 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,468 ‐ Here come old flat‐top 295 00:15:27,469 --> 00:15:29,139 He was moving up with me 296 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:30,927 Then come waving goodbye 297 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:32,771 In a little old souped‐up jitney 298 00:15:32,772 --> 00:15:34,806 I put my foot in my tank 299 00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:36,940 And I began to roll 300 00:15:37,563 --> 00:15:40,815 Moaning siren, 'twas a state patrol 301 00:15:40,816 --> 00:15:42,816 So I let out my wings 302 00:15:42,818 --> 00:15:44,988 And then I blew my horn 303 00:15:45,487 --> 00:15:48,527 Bye‐bye New Jersey, I've become airborne 304 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,869 It actually is the Chuck Berry song. 305 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:53,788 ‐ It actually is the Chuck Berry song, so I said, "Oh man," 306 00:15:53,789 --> 00:15:56,827 I said, you know, "Look, it's a great song. I love it." 307 00:15:56,832 --> 00:15:59,672 I said, "But we got to do something to get away from that." 308 00:16:00,169 --> 00:16:02,545 So I just suggested we slowed it down. 309 00:16:02,546 --> 00:16:03,506 So instead of the‐‐ 310 00:16:03,507 --> 00:16:05,755 up‐tempo music playing 311 00:16:05,757 --> 00:16:09,385 We go... 312 00:16:09,386 --> 00:16:13,926 Come Together playing 313 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:20,813 Which now gave it a kind of real nice swampy back and forth. 314 00:16:20,814 --> 00:16:23,482 Here come old flat top he got 315 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:25,613 And it changed his attitude to it. 316 00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:30,698 Come Together playing 317 00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:32,408 ‐ I just want to hear the vocals, 318 00:16:32,409 --> 00:16:34,999 just to understand where it's... the writing style. 319 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,785 Here come old flat top 320 00:16:36,788 --> 00:16:39,707 He come grooving up slowly 321 00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:42,668 He got joo joo eyeball 322 00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:45,629 He one holy roller 323 00:16:45,631 --> 00:16:48,841 He got hair down 324 00:16:49,218 --> 00:16:51,088 To his knee 325 00:16:52,179 --> 00:16:56,889 Got to be a joker he just do what he please 326 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,150 ‐ The signature of the song. 327 00:17:04,608 --> 00:17:05,608 ‐ Ringo. 328 00:17:09,154 --> 00:17:11,594 ‐ It's just the bass and the drums. ‐ It's a groove, isn't it? 329 00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:20,415 ‐ ...Ono sideboard 330 00:17:20,999 --> 00:17:22,959 spinal cracker 331 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,040 He got‐‐ 332 00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:25,127 Yeah. 333 00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:34,507 ‐ ...in his armchair you can feel his disease 334 00:17:34,513 --> 00:17:36,223 Come together 335 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:38,932 Right now 336 00:17:43,522 --> 00:17:44,692 That's it. 337 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:47,032 I'm playing that piano. 338 00:17:56,034 --> 00:17:57,034 Guitars. 339 00:18:02,374 --> 00:18:03,924 That's John and George. 340 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,880 - Together? - Both. No, that's George. 341 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:11,883 ‐ John's probably playing the rhythm. 342 00:18:11,884 --> 00:18:13,684 ‐ Yeah, John's playing the rhythm, yeah. 343 00:18:24,396 --> 00:18:25,396 ‐ Yeah 344 00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:29,069 Come together 345 00:18:35,657 --> 00:18:37,157 ‐ Bass sounds incredible. ‐ Yeah. 346 00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:40,996 ‐ Really rockin'. 347 00:18:47,085 --> 00:18:49,835 ‐ And we sort of knew we'd got something funky. 348 00:18:49,838 --> 00:18:51,468 ‐ Yeah. ‐ And that was always the aim. 349 00:18:51,469 --> 00:18:54,884 Like, if you could take whatever the little song was you had 350 00:18:54,885 --> 00:18:58,135 and just put that little extra something on it. 351 00:18:58,138 --> 00:19:00,808 ‐ Did it feel like it happened most of the time? 352 00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:02,975 ‐ Yeah. ‐ It seems like it. 353 00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:04,726 Lis‐listening to the records, it sounds like that. 354 00:19:04,728 --> 00:19:05,848 ‐ I know. Yeah. 355 00:19:06,396 --> 00:19:10,896 I mean, for me, I've grown to be a fan of the Beatles. 356 00:19:10,901 --> 00:19:13,201 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. ‐ Because then I was just a Beatle. 357 00:19:13,612 --> 00:19:17,657 But now that the Beatles' volume of work is finished... 358 00:19:17,658 --> 00:19:18,908 ‐ Yes. 359 00:19:18,909 --> 00:19:20,578 ‐ I, I listen back to it, 360 00:19:20,579 --> 00:19:24,407 and, you know, like that you just think, what was that bassline? 361 00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:27,124 Now this is good because I actually, now I know‐‐ 362 00:19:27,125 --> 00:19:29,375 ‐ Now you understand how it works. ‐ Now I know what I played, yeah. 363 00:19:29,378 --> 00:19:30,418 ‐ Yeah, yeah. 364 00:19:33,632 --> 00:19:36,761 You talked a little bit about becoming a fan of the Beatles again. 365 00:19:36,762 --> 00:19:38,850 ‐ Yeah. ‐ So tell me first about, 366 00:19:38,851 --> 00:19:40,256 Beatles break up. 367 00:19:40,264 --> 00:19:41,934 ‐ Mm. ‐ In that moment, 368 00:19:42,307 --> 00:19:45,637 what's your feeling about your last ten years of music? 369 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:48,688 ‐ I knew we'd done something great. 370 00:19:48,689 --> 00:19:51,729 ‐ Yes. ‐ We'd had a lot of fun in the studio, 371 00:19:51,733 --> 00:19:54,321 and I was sad to see it break up. ‐ Yeah. 372 00:19:54,322 --> 00:19:56,319 ‐ I thought I'd be in this band forever. 373 00:19:56,321 --> 00:19:57,571 ‐ Hm. 374 00:19:57,573 --> 00:19:58,993 ‐ But various things were happening. 375 00:19:58,994 --> 00:20:01,031 There was a lot of heavy business stuff 376 00:20:01,034 --> 00:20:03,414 that had, that had influenced decisions. 377 00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:05,705 ‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ So we, we split up, 378 00:20:05,706 --> 00:20:09,786 and, uh, I was heartbroken, really. 379 00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:12,919 And I kind of disappeared off the face of the Earth. 380 00:20:12,921 --> 00:20:15,551 I went up to a farm in Scotland 381 00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:20,386 and just became a sort of hippie farmer, which was great. 382 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:22,717 ‐ Motorcars 383 00:20:22,723 --> 00:20:24,557 Handlebars 384 00:20:24,558 --> 00:20:27,438 Bicycles for two 385 00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:33,232 Broken‐hearted jubilee 386 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:40,324 When you've been a musician all that time, 387 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:46,333 the idea of just not doing it was a bit sad. 388 00:20:47,581 --> 00:20:49,874 I just wanted to keep going with music. 389 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:50,535 ‐ Yeah. 390 00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:52,882 ‐ You know, it was a very difficult thing to shake off 391 00:20:53,253 --> 00:20:56,172 if you're this invested like you and I are. 392 00:20:56,173 --> 00:20:56,923 ‐ Yeah. 393 00:20:56,924 --> 00:20:58,684 ‐ You just can't sort of say, oh, I'll do it tomorrow. 394 00:20:58,685 --> 00:21:00,585 ‐ Can't imagine it. Can't imagine. 395 00:21:00,594 --> 00:21:05,848 ‐ So I just went right back to basics, and it wasn't easy. 396 00:21:08,352 --> 00:21:11,942 ‐ Da, da, ya, da, da, da da, da, da 397 00:21:12,397 --> 00:21:13,727 ‐ Never finished the lyrics. 398 00:21:15,192 --> 00:21:16,612 ‐ No, this is jazz. 399 00:21:19,446 --> 00:21:22,196 I had some recording equipment at home. 400 00:21:22,533 --> 00:21:26,203 I had an amp, guitar, piano, a little drum set. 401 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:30,120 So I just thought, well, I'll just record some stuff, you know. 402 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:33,002 ‐ And literally yourself, meaning not even an engineer. 403 00:21:33,003 --> 00:21:35,211 Nobody was there except you. ‐ No. Nobody. 404 00:21:35,212 --> 00:21:39,132 ‐ ...the junk in the yard 405 00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:44,970 Da, da, ya, da, da, da da, da, da 406 00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:47,348 ‐ Wow. 407 00:21:53,605 --> 00:21:56,565 Song ends 408 00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:58,107 Beautiful. 409 00:21:58,110 --> 00:22:01,195 This was the first album that you made in this way. 410 00:22:01,196 --> 00:22:02,655 Everything at home, all by yourself. 411 00:22:02,656 --> 00:22:03,406 ‐ Yeah. 412 00:22:03,407 --> 00:22:05,077 I mean, once you do something like this, 413 00:22:05,078 --> 00:22:07,195 it's a nice little home project. 414 00:22:07,202 --> 00:22:08,082 ‐ Yeah. 415 00:22:08,083 --> 00:22:11,205 ‐ It's like, you know, if you've built a table, 416 00:22:11,206 --> 00:22:13,916 you've got some time off, I'll build a chair, something. 417 00:22:13,917 --> 00:22:18,207 You know, it's just that good feeling you're doing something for yourself. 418 00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:19,013 ‐ Yeah. 419 00:22:19,014 --> 00:22:21,924 ‐ But then, you know, you've suddenly got 420 00:22:21,925 --> 00:22:23,675 enough tracks for an album. 421 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:28,467 Maybe I'm Amazed playing 422 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:51,293 Baby, I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time 423 00:22:52,706 --> 00:22:56,336 Maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you 424 00:22:59,004 --> 00:23:03,474 Maybe I'm amazed at the way you pulled me out of time 425 00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:06,428 You hung me on a line 426 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:11,734 Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you 427 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:17,688 Baby, I'm a man, maybe I'm a lonely man 428 00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:20,069 Who's in the middle of something 429 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:23,532 That he doesn't really understand 430 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:29,825 Baby, I'm a man and maybe you're the only woman 431 00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:31,996 Who could ever help me 432 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:35,790 Baby, won't you help me to understand? 433 00:23:35,791 --> 00:23:36,791 Ooh‐ooh 434 00:23:36,792 --> 00:23:38,292 Once you've been to the top, 435 00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:39,883 going back down to the bottom of the ladder, 436 00:23:39,884 --> 00:23:43,798 and clawing your way back up, is, uh, is a bit of a number. 437 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,299 But I had Linda by my side, 438 00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:48,101 and she'd helped me through that period. 439 00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:50,852 She was very, a great strength. 440 00:23:53,851 --> 00:23:56,730 ‐ Baby, I'm amazed at the way you helped me... 441 00:23:56,731 --> 00:23:57,978 ‐ Bringing the energy. 442 00:23:59,147 --> 00:24:01,107 ‐ You right me when I'm wrong 443 00:24:01,108 --> 00:24:03,528 ‐ I wonder if that's tucked in there, I never heard that before. 444 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:05,147 ‐ No. ‐ No, you left it out? 445 00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:06,445 ‐ I don't know. 446 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:07,946 It might be this. ‐ Yeah, it might be‐‐ 447 00:24:07,948 --> 00:24:09,908 ‐ Sounds like I mixed it out. I can't remember. 448 00:24:10,534 --> 00:24:11,704 ‐ Oh 449 00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:15,794 Ooh‐ooh‐ooh 450 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:17,998 Yeah‐yeah, yeah 451 00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:22,253 ‐ That got it. 452 00:24:22,254 --> 00:24:23,264 ‐ Oh 453 00:24:27,968 --> 00:24:29,844 Yeah‐yeah, yeah 454 00:24:35,601 --> 00:24:39,441 ‐ That's when the audience applauds, you go, wait for it, wait for it. 455 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:44,230 ‐ Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time 456 00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:49,449 And maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you 457 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:52,950 ‐ I'd seen something that made me think, 458 00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:54,871 oh, John's got a new record out, 459 00:24:54,872 --> 00:24:56,790 and it's called Lennon. 460 00:24:57,372 --> 00:24:59,082 I thought, wow, that's great. 461 00:24:59,458 --> 00:25:01,748 Oh boy. I missed that boat. 462 00:25:01,752 --> 00:25:02,712 ‐ Yeah. ‐ You know. 463 00:25:02,713 --> 00:25:04,840 And it turned out not to be so. ‐ Wow. 464 00:25:04,841 --> 00:25:07,256 ‐ So I said, well, that's a great idea though. 465 00:25:07,257 --> 00:25:08,587 ‐ Yeah. ‐ You just call it your surname. 466 00:25:08,592 --> 00:25:10,432 ‐ Yes. ‐ So I said, I'll have that. 467 00:25:10,886 --> 00:25:13,256 So I just named my first record McCartney. 468 00:25:13,847 --> 00:25:16,977 ‐ That he doesn't really understand 469 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,146 Baby, I'm a man... ‐ Whoa. 470 00:25:22,147 --> 00:25:25,527 ‐ You're the only woman who could ever help me 471 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:29,487 Baby, won't you help me to understand? 472 00:25:29,488 --> 00:25:33,198 Ooh 473 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,660 ‐ You were feeling good that day. 474 00:25:43,794 --> 00:25:46,264 When was the moment when it switched from, 475 00:25:46,797 --> 00:25:48,297 okay, the old band broke up, 476 00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,378 there's some bad feelings, business stuff, 477 00:25:50,384 --> 00:25:51,724 and now I'm moving on. 478 00:25:51,725 --> 00:25:55,096 I'm starting at the bottom myself, over again. 479 00:25:55,097 --> 00:25:58,474 When could you look back and realize, 480 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:02,895 oh, what we did back then was really good and special? 481 00:26:02,896 --> 00:26:06,065 ‐ I think once I'd got over the fact 482 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,436 that the Beatles had broken up. 483 00:26:08,068 --> 00:26:13,614 Um, once I could allow myself to do a Beatles song in, in our show. 484 00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,865 ‐ Would that have been five years or ten years or‐‐ 485 00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:18,198 ‐ No, I think it was, it was a few years. 486 00:26:18,203 --> 00:26:20,788 I wanted a whole new thing. ‐ Yes. 487 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:23,329 ‐ Whole new sound, new songs. ‐ Yeah. 488 00:26:23,917 --> 00:26:26,377 ‐ So once we'd got that... ‐ Yes. 489 00:26:26,378 --> 00:26:29,298 ‐ I felt vindicated and I thought, okay, 490 00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:33,675 now, why don't‐‐ I can, I can now safely put a Beatles song in. 491 00:26:33,677 --> 00:26:37,467 ‐ Yes. ‐ And, uh, then you started to think, 492 00:26:38,182 --> 00:26:39,851 ooh, what about that one? 493 00:26:39,852 --> 00:26:42,440 And I never would do a John song. ‐ Hmm. 494 00:26:42,441 --> 00:26:46,726 ‐ Because I would just only go to songs that I'd instigated. 495 00:26:46,732 --> 00:26:47,940 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Um‐‐ 496 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:49,859 But after a while, I got so comfortable with it, 497 00:26:49,860 --> 00:26:51,400 I thought, yeah, I'll do a John song. 498 00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:52,490 I love that song. 499 00:26:52,491 --> 00:26:54,655 ‐ I want to read to you one little thing. 500 00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:55,366 ‐ Yeah. 501 00:26:55,367 --> 00:26:57,945 ‐ It says, "Paul is one of the most innovative bass players 502 00:26:57,951 --> 00:27:00,870 "that ever played bass, and half of the stuff that's going on now 503 00:27:00,871 --> 00:27:03,459 "is directly ripped off from his Beatle period. 504 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:06,287 "He has always been a bit coy about his bass playing, 505 00:27:06,293 --> 00:27:08,173 but he's a great, great musician." 506 00:27:09,296 --> 00:27:11,166 ‐ Did I write that? ‐ That is John Lennon. 507 00:27:11,173 --> 00:27:12,340 ‐ That's John? ‐ Yeah. 508 00:27:12,341 --> 00:27:13,341 ‐ Alright. 509 00:27:13,342 --> 00:27:14,762 Come on, Johnny. 510 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:16,259 ‐ Yeah. ‐ That's beautiful. 511 00:27:16,261 --> 00:27:17,511 I hadn't‐‐ I hadn't heard that before. 512 00:27:17,513 --> 00:27:19,560 ‐ It's interesting considering obviously, 513 00:27:19,561 --> 00:27:23,016 you're two leaders of something, and just competitive situation. 514 00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:24,388 ‐ Yeah, yeah. Yeah. ‐ So to hear that. 515 00:27:24,394 --> 00:27:26,441 ‐ He'd never said that to me. ‐ Yeah. 516 00:27:26,442 --> 00:27:29,188 ‐ So, but it's nice to hear that he said it to someone. 517 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:30,730 That's amazing. 518 00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:34,858 Helter Skelter playing 519 00:27:34,863 --> 00:27:38,413 ‐ When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide 520 00:27:38,414 --> 00:27:41,494 Where I stop, and I turn, and I go for a ride 521 00:27:41,495 --> 00:27:46,035 'Til I get to the bottom, and I see you again! 522 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:48,211 Yeah, yeah, yeah! 523 00:27:49,545 --> 00:27:52,505 Well, do you, don't you want me to love you? 524 00:27:55,259 --> 00:27:58,469 I'm coming down fast, but I'm miles above you 525 00:28:01,098 --> 00:28:03,307 Tell me, tell me, tell me 526 00:28:03,308 --> 00:28:05,848 Come on, tell me the answer! 527 00:28:06,562 --> 00:28:11,022 Well, you may be a lover, but you ain't no dancer 528 00:28:12,192 --> 00:28:13,862 Come on! Helter skelter 529 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:17,155 Helter skelter 530 00:28:18,323 --> 00:28:19,953 Helter skelter 531 00:28:21,159 --> 00:28:22,159 Yeah 532 00:28:29,501 --> 00:28:32,711 Oh, will you, won't you want me to make you? 533 00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:38,434 I'm coming down fast, but don't let me break you 534 00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:43,931 Tell me, tell me, tell me the answer! 535 00:28:43,932 --> 00:28:46,892 You may be a lover, but you ain't no dancer 536 00:28:48,604 --> 00:28:49,687 Look out! 537 00:28:49,688 --> 00:28:51,228 Helter skelter 538 00:28:52,649 --> 00:28:54,149 Helter skelter 539 00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:57,025 Helter skelter 540 00:28:58,780 --> 00:28:59,870 Ooh 541 00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:02,945 Look out! 542 00:29:03,577 --> 00:29:05,286 'Cause here she comes 543 00:29:18,008 --> 00:29:21,638 When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide 544 00:29:21,639 --> 00:29:24,555 And I stop, and I turn, and I go for a ride 545 00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:29,016 And I get to the bottom, and I see you again! 546 00:29:29,019 --> 00:29:31,019 Yeah, yeah, yeah! 40867

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