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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,277 [clattering] 2 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:15,148 [squeaking] 3 00:00:42,742 --> 00:00:45,745 [girl] Mom, what is happening with the piles? 4 00:00:45,745 --> 00:00:50,150 [mom chuckles] Don't be criticizing my piles, OK? 5 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:52,218 You should have seen it a few days ago. 6 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:54,054 OK, I won't criticize your piles. 7 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:56,456 This is good, these are good piles. 8 00:00:56,456 --> 00:00:57,624 OK. 9 00:00:57,624 --> 00:01:00,693 -Is it all gonna fit? -Yes. 10 00:01:00,693 --> 00:01:02,629 I've thrown away a lot of stuff. 11 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:04,564 OK. 12 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:07,400 So what am I supposed to do with this? 13 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,802 That's all your crap. 14 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:11,371 If you want it, take it, and if not, 15 00:01:11,371 --> 00:01:13,206 we're throwing it away. 16 00:01:13,206 --> 00:01:14,340 OK. 17 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:16,709 All my crap, understood. 18 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:20,346 That's pure me crap. 19 00:01:20,346 --> 00:01:22,182 [laughing] 20 00:01:22,182 --> 00:01:26,853 Sarah tantrum face. You still make that face. 21 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,325 Oh, you were really a fat baby. 22 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:35,295 Look at that. Look at all those chins. 23 00:01:35,295 --> 00:01:37,831 [laughing] 24 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:41,101 What's this? 25 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:44,571 That's John's wedding ring. 26 00:01:44,571 --> 00:01:46,739 I don't know what that's doing in there. 27 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:50,410 You can throw that away. 28 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:21,901 -Ahoy. -What? 29 00:03:21,901 --> 00:03:23,603 Matey. 30 00:03:24,871 --> 00:03:26,239 [laughing] 31 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:28,575 -Oh, hi. -Hey. 32 00:03:29,943 --> 00:03:32,412 -How are you? -I'm happy to see you. 33 00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:33,546 How are you? 34 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:35,682 Happy to see you. 35 00:03:37,283 --> 00:03:39,886 -How was your day? -It was good. 36 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:43,823 -There was a lot of dust. -Look at you, animal. 37 00:03:43,823 --> 00:03:46,492 Look at how much sand you just brought on. 38 00:03:46,492 --> 00:03:51,331 [laughing] Sorry, just want to make a castle later, you know? 39 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,468 -Dust, lots of dust. -Lots of dust. 40 00:03:55,468 --> 00:03:57,370 Lots of boxes. 41 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:00,340 -Lots of treasures. -Ooh. 42 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:07,280 But, ooh, Susan's gonna give us her cuisine art thing. 43 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,983 -Cuisinart? -Yes. 44 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:11,851 [laughing] 45 00:04:11,851 --> 00:04:14,787 She says hi. And she's giving us stuff for the kitchen, so... 46 00:04:14,787 --> 00:04:16,923 -OK, cool. -You know I don't 47 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:20,460 -go in there. -Cuisine art. 48 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:23,830 That makes more sense, you asshole. 49 00:04:25,331 --> 00:04:29,569 Oh, you keep me young. 50 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:32,805 -Would you like wine? -Yes, please. 51 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:38,544 Hey, hey, lookie, lookie. 52 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,648 Cool, right? 53 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:45,518 What do you think? 54 00:04:48,454 --> 00:04:51,457 [laughing] 55 00:04:55,461 --> 00:04:57,964 [sighing] 56 00:04:57,964 --> 00:05:02,802 I mean it's my dad's ring, so, it's... 57 00:05:05,705 --> 00:05:07,807 I mean, I found it today. 58 00:05:08,908 --> 00:05:11,744 And it's kind of weird and cool. 59 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:15,515 Mm-hmm. 60 00:05:15,515 --> 00:05:18,484 -What is happening right now? -What's happening right now? 61 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:21,487 [both chuckle] 62 00:05:21,487 --> 00:05:24,057 Oh, did you just think that I was proposing to you? 63 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:26,025 -Shut the front door. -No. 64 00:05:26,025 --> 00:05:27,960 -Sarah Watson. -Kristen. 65 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,632 What? What just went through your head? 66 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:35,435 Do you know who I am? 67 00:05:35,435 --> 00:05:38,104 I don't know, Sarah, we're at a beautiful beach. 68 00:05:38,104 --> 00:05:40,640 -Uh-huh. -I brought wine. 69 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,108 We've got cheese. 70 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:45,912 -You did this to me. -And you pulled it out. 71 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:49,382 It was a set up. 72 00:05:49,382 --> 00:05:52,118 -I'm sorry. -You're right, I framed you. 73 00:05:52,118 --> 00:05:54,487 I'm so sorry, come here. 74 00:05:54,487 --> 00:05:57,890 -No. -Come here, little pookie monster. 75 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:59,359 What's a pookie monster? 76 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,728 You, you are a pookie monster. 77 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:04,063 Hey. 78 00:06:05,732 --> 00:06:07,900 -[Sarah] I'm the worst. -[Kristen] Yes. 79 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:10,770 [Sarah] But this has already been established. 80 00:06:13,005 --> 00:06:15,441 I hate you and I love you. 81 00:06:15,441 --> 00:06:17,143 I love you and I love you. 82 00:06:17,143 --> 00:06:18,811 [both laughing] 83 00:06:18,811 --> 00:06:20,847 Cool. 84 00:06:23,983 --> 00:06:26,152 [sighing] 85 00:06:30,823 --> 00:06:32,992 You think the water's cold? 86 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:34,961 Yep. 87 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,999 [Sarah] Do you want to walk in it, anyway? 88 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:42,568 [Kristen] Sure. 89 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,420 [Sarah] What do you think? 90 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:15,168 How did you make that happen, 91 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:16,769 and when did you make that happen? 92 00:07:16,769 --> 00:07:18,204 [Kristen] Alchemy. 93 00:07:18,204 --> 00:07:20,807 Ah, I didn't know you were practicing. 94 00:07:20,807 --> 00:07:23,042 -Wanna try it? -Mm-hmm. 95 00:07:26,179 --> 00:07:29,515 -Mm-hmm. Yeah. -It's good? 96 00:07:29,515 --> 00:07:31,951 -Oh, my. -Oh, my goodness. 97 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:35,988 Happy anniversary, my two favorite people. 98 00:07:35,988 --> 00:07:37,089 You shouldn't have. 99 00:07:37,089 --> 00:07:39,492 Thank you, that's beautiful. 100 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:41,527 Well, do you want to blow out the three 101 00:07:41,527 --> 00:07:42,662 and I'll hit the zero? 102 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:44,096 -Sure. -All right, you ready? 103 00:07:44,096 --> 00:07:47,500 -Sounds like a plan. -One, two, three. 104 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:49,068 [laughing] 105 00:07:49,068 --> 00:07:52,238 -Well done. I remember. -[man] You remember. 106 00:07:52,238 --> 00:07:54,640 -[woman] Look at that. -[man] Wow. 107 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,045 -Yes, yes, yes, yes. -[woman] Ruining my cake. 108 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:01,547 ...hold it? We're going to take a picture. 109 00:08:01,547 --> 00:08:03,549 -Oh, with the three. -[woman] Yeah. 110 00:08:03,549 --> 00:08:06,552 [man] Yeah, there you go. Happy three years to you. 111 00:08:06,552 --> 00:08:08,921 [woman] Go. One, two, three. 112 00:08:08,921 --> 00:08:11,090 -I think it's bursting. -Did you get it? 113 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:13,259 -I think so. One more because-- -[man] It happens. 114 00:08:13,259 --> 00:08:18,731 -So work. How's it going? -[Kristen] It's work. 115 00:08:18,731 --> 00:08:23,002 -[woman] That doesn't sound good. -I mean... 116 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:26,005 We got people coming and going 117 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:28,774 and it's a lot of extra stress for me, 118 00:08:28,774 --> 00:08:31,177 -but it's OK. -[woman] I know, but everything 119 00:08:31,177 --> 00:08:34,280 that's worthwhile, work while you're stressed, 120 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,750 -you know? -It takes a little... 121 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:40,119 -...monkeying. -[woman] I know. 122 00:08:40,119 --> 00:08:43,289 -It's fine. -[woman] I wish you sounded happier. 123 00:08:45,091 --> 00:08:48,661 I should get a knife and cut this sucker up. 124 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:53,599 Are you the same... 125 00:08:53,599 --> 00:08:55,902 Are you the same person I was talking to before? 126 00:08:55,902 --> 00:08:57,737 [man on phone indistinct] 127 00:08:57,737 --> 00:09:00,673 OK, well, can I please be connected with them? 128 00:09:02,808 --> 00:09:04,810 Ahh... 129 00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:07,947 An individual plan? 130 00:09:08,948 --> 00:09:12,118 No, I'm a freelance worker. 131 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:14,720 I've been on the phone for like an hour, 132 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,923 do I really have to go through this again? 133 00:09:18,624 --> 00:09:19,992 I can call back tomorrow, 134 00:09:19,992 --> 00:09:23,029 but I'm supposed to go to the doctor tomorrow. 135 00:09:24,864 --> 00:09:28,200 No, I'm not going to pay out of pocket, that's ridiculous. 136 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,304 [sighing] 137 00:09:55,962 --> 00:10:00,066 -What is this? -It is risotto. 138 00:10:00,066 --> 00:10:02,301 -Smells so good. -Want some? 139 00:10:02,301 --> 00:10:03,836 Mm-hmm. 140 00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:08,741 [laughing] 141 00:10:08,741 --> 00:10:10,309 -Mm. Mm-hmm. -Good? 142 00:10:10,309 --> 00:10:15,681 -It needs something. -I don't know. 143 00:10:15,681 --> 00:10:18,284 -Tastes good to me. -Lemon zest. 144 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:19,285 Yeah. 145 00:10:20,953 --> 00:10:24,290 Oh, I have a meeting at eight tomorrow morning. 146 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:28,761 -Can you move the car? -Uh... Yep. 147 00:10:28,761 --> 00:10:32,298 Not gonna go to the doctor, so, that's cool. 148 00:10:32,298 --> 00:10:35,134 -Sarah. -Kristen. 149 00:10:35,134 --> 00:10:38,337 -You need to go to the doctor. -I don't have health insurance. 150 00:10:38,337 --> 00:10:41,240 -There's no point. -There's a point, 151 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,908 and it's keeping you healthy. 152 00:10:44,677 --> 00:10:48,280 -It just makes me... -I know, I know, I know. 153 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,383 But I'll pay it. 154 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:52,785 -Please just go. -We could do 155 00:10:52,785 --> 00:10:54,687 so many other things with that money. 156 00:10:54,687 --> 00:10:57,723 It's not urgent, so I'm just gonna sort it out 157 00:10:57,723 --> 00:10:59,792 -and then-- -Yeah, but it'll get urgent. 158 00:10:59,792 --> 00:11:02,895 It's god damn health insurance, man. 159 00:11:02,895 --> 00:11:06,132 You should just be on mine and make it easy. 160 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,869 If we could be domestic partners, 161 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:11,804 then you could probably get on it. 162 00:11:11,804 --> 00:11:16,976 Oh. Yeah. 163 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:20,746 -Yeah. How do we do that? -I don't know. 164 00:11:20,746 --> 00:11:23,449 It may be more complicated than that, I don't know. 165 00:11:23,449 --> 00:11:24,950 -Let me talk to HR. -OK. 166 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:26,752 -But. -Yeah, and you know, 167 00:11:26,752 --> 00:11:29,288 I could look into that tomorrow, too, if you wanted. 168 00:11:29,288 --> 00:11:31,257 Oh, my God, that would be amazing. 169 00:11:31,257 --> 00:11:33,893 That would be. We need you covered. 170 00:11:33,893 --> 00:11:35,728 [phone buzzing] 171 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:41,767 Thanks for joining us here at the Spoon, Halloween edition. 172 00:11:41,767 --> 00:11:44,003 Don't forget to subscribe below. 173 00:11:44,003 --> 00:11:45,438 And join us next week, 174 00:11:45,438 --> 00:11:47,840 when we take a little field trip. 175 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,177 We're going fishing, before we make fried fish tacos. 176 00:11:51,177 --> 00:11:55,081 So grab your flippers, let's reel in that catch, 177 00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:58,417 -and happy haunting, spirits. -[man] And cut. 178 00:11:58,417 --> 00:12:00,386 Very nice, everyone. 179 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:02,988 -OK. -Good luck with your... 180 00:12:02,988 --> 00:12:04,156 [shutter clicks] 181 00:12:04,156 --> 00:12:05,991 -[woman] Kristen. -Yeah. 182 00:12:05,991 --> 00:12:09,161 -Stepping out. -[woman] So, remember Julie 183 00:12:09,161 --> 00:12:10,730 I used to work with? 184 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,265 -Uh, yeah, crazy Julie? -Crazy Julie. 185 00:12:13,265 --> 00:12:14,433 She called me last night. 186 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:16,335 She heard about the new EP we have. 187 00:12:16,335 --> 00:12:18,003 -Uh-huh. -She worked with him 188 00:12:18,003 --> 00:12:20,740 about six months ago at Food Park. 189 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:25,211 Apparently, he's a sports guy. Never worked with food. 190 00:12:25,211 --> 00:12:28,247 He came in, fired everybody. 191 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:33,119 -Went in a completely new direction. -Apparently, he's a real ass. 192 00:12:33,119 --> 00:12:35,454 [Kristen] He's gonna be no different than the last guy we had six months ago 193 00:12:35,454 --> 00:12:37,857 and the guy before that, it's fine, OK? 194 00:12:37,857 --> 00:12:40,092 It was so simple when it was just you and me, you know? 195 00:12:40,092 --> 00:12:42,161 Well, it's their call. 196 00:12:42,161 --> 00:12:46,766 It's a little extra stress, but we'll get by, don't worry. 197 00:13:00,813 --> 00:13:03,783 -OK. -I'm listening. 198 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:06,318 [Sarah] I loved it. We are almost out of here, baby. 199 00:13:06,318 --> 00:13:08,954 -[man] Let's go. -Somehow we dropped 200 00:13:08,954 --> 00:13:12,358 a frame at like minute three, but we just fix that, 201 00:13:12,358 --> 00:13:15,161 -then we're good. -OK. 202 00:13:16,295 --> 00:13:20,065 Oh, OK, OK. [clears throat] 203 00:13:20,065 --> 00:13:21,567 They didn't care about the music in the end? 204 00:13:21,567 --> 00:13:23,369 -No they really liked it. -Really? 205 00:13:23,369 --> 00:13:25,805 -Yeah, they were laughing. -Yes, yes. 206 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:28,073 -OK. Can I export? -Yep. 207 00:13:28,073 --> 00:13:30,142 Sweet. A few minutes. 208 00:13:30,142 --> 00:13:32,244 Not bad, Miss Sarah. 209 00:13:32,244 --> 00:13:34,880 -Dream team. -Doing good, Gary. 210 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,516 Mm-hmm. You went to P Town, right? 211 00:13:37,516 --> 00:13:41,353 -How was it? -Magical. 212 00:13:41,353 --> 00:13:44,123 -And then I fucked it up. -What do you mean? 213 00:13:44,123 --> 00:13:46,325 -As per usual. -Oh, God, what'd you do? 214 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:50,162 -What did you do? -I found my dad's wedding ring at my mom's. 215 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:53,365 -Uh-huh. -And I took it, and I put it in my pocket. 216 00:13:53,365 --> 00:13:55,968 And then I walked to the beach, where Kristen was 217 00:13:55,968 --> 00:13:57,436 with a bottle of champagne at sunset, 218 00:13:57,436 --> 00:13:58,871 it was beautiful, and I pulled the ring 219 00:13:58,871 --> 00:14:00,472 -out of my pocket... -What? 220 00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:02,241 ...and handed it to her without saying anything. 221 00:14:02,241 --> 00:14:04,009 What? Yes, yes, you're getting married! 222 00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:06,545 No, no, no, no, that's not the... 223 00:14:06,545 --> 00:14:08,214 I just wasn't thinking about it, 224 00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:10,349 but she totally took... she did just what you did. 225 00:14:10,349 --> 00:14:14,854 -And, now it's awkward. -So you're not getting married? 226 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:16,622 -No. -OK, good, 227 00:14:16,622 --> 00:14:19,024 because I thought you said you never wanted to get married. 228 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:21,260 -I think I did say that. -I was just trying 229 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,362 to seem excited, but I'm actually really not. 230 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:24,496 [laughing] 231 00:14:24,496 --> 00:14:27,099 Don't do it. Don't do it. 232 00:14:27,099 --> 00:14:28,467 -Gary. -Otherwise you're gonna 233 00:14:28,467 --> 00:14:29,501 have to deal with the bullshit 234 00:14:29,501 --> 00:14:31,103 I'm going through right now. 235 00:14:31,103 --> 00:14:33,239 -Yeah, what's happening? -Do you want to see it? 236 00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:35,474 It's real, it's like actually official. 237 00:14:35,474 --> 00:14:40,179 I hired a lawyer and I think I finally am getting... 238 00:14:41,513 --> 00:14:45,885 -getting through this. -Oh, my God, Gary. 239 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,920 -I know. -Let me see. 240 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,458 This, my friend, is how you get divorced in New York City. 241 00:14:52,458 --> 00:14:56,061 [Sarah] Doesn't it only take one piece of paper to get married? 242 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:58,230 [Gary] Yeah, right? This is my confession of the day. 243 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:02,434 I found on YouTube, this web series that's like 244 00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:05,337 -how to get divorced. -Whoa. 245 00:15:05,337 --> 00:15:07,339 I know, I know. 246 00:15:07,339 --> 00:15:09,208 I thought about making my own, 247 00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:11,343 with gay marriage comes gay divorce. 248 00:15:11,343 --> 00:15:13,646 Yes, you should totally do that. 249 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:16,682 [Gary] Like one episode, I would get my tattoo removed. 250 00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:18,584 -Uh-huh. -Which is like actually a really good idea. 251 00:15:18,584 --> 00:15:21,654 And then you could bring me in as like a special guest 252 00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:25,057 to talk about how not to get married in the first place. 253 00:15:25,057 --> 00:15:26,592 Because you're so good at it. 254 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:28,928 Like, here's a ring, let's not get married. 255 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:32,031 Want like whiskey on the rocks. 256 00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:34,466 -Two of them. -First round's on me, OK? 257 00:15:34,466 --> 00:15:36,201 Sure. 258 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:38,537 [Kristen] You've arrived just in time. 259 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:40,673 -Have I? -Mm-hmm. 260 00:15:41,507 --> 00:15:43,509 What's my prize? 261 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:46,478 -Tart. -Mm... 262 00:15:46,478 --> 00:15:49,481 Mm, mm-hmm. 263 00:15:50,683 --> 00:15:53,585 -You OK? -Mm-hmm. 264 00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:56,155 Stupidly didn't sleep last night. 265 00:15:56,155 --> 00:15:59,458 -Yeah, I could tell. -I'm sorry. 266 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:04,697 I'm wondering if maybe we should talk about P Town. 267 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:09,468 Yeah, OK. 268 00:16:10,736 --> 00:16:13,038 Let's talk about it. 269 00:16:17,409 --> 00:16:20,346 [Sarah] It was part of the reason I wasn't sleeping last night. 270 00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:21,313 [KristeOh, God. 271 00:16:21,313 --> 00:16:23,148 [chuckles] 272 00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:24,717 -OK. -I don't know. 273 00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:27,386 -I just want to talk about it. -Yeah, let's do it. 274 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:29,555 What do you want to say? 275 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:32,591 Do you know who I am? 276 00:16:32,591 --> 00:16:36,261 -No, who are you? -Hi, my name is Sarah Watson. 277 00:16:36,261 --> 00:16:40,332 -It's lovely to meet you. -Lovely to meet you, too. 278 00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:44,436 Since we just met, I don't think this proposal is a good idea. 279 00:16:44,436 --> 00:16:47,406 -[Kristen] I was ready to say yes. -[Sarah] Yeah, you were. 280 00:16:47,406 --> 00:16:49,041 [Kristen] I was. 281 00:16:50,476 --> 00:16:51,777 Are you? 282 00:16:52,611 --> 00:16:54,246 I don't know. 283 00:16:56,582 --> 00:16:58,784 I want to be with you forever. 284 00:16:58,784 --> 00:17:00,452 Yeah, I want to be with you forever. 285 00:17:00,452 --> 00:17:01,620 Great. 286 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:03,589 [laughing] 287 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:06,158 -That makes me happy. -Me, too. 288 00:17:06,158 --> 00:17:08,227 Uh, it just... 289 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:15,234 My family kind of fucked me up on the whole marriage thing. 290 00:17:15,234 --> 00:17:17,669 It just feels like a whole big thing 291 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:19,538 that I don't really understand. 292 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,110 OK. 293 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:27,613 -I have a twig in my mouth. -A twig? 294 00:17:27,613 --> 00:17:28,580 Mm-hmm. 295 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:30,482 [laughing] 296 00:17:30,482 --> 00:17:33,786 -Da-dum. -Oh, that's garnish, Sarah. 297 00:17:33,786 --> 00:17:37,056 -That was rosemary garnish. -Sorry. 298 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:40,192 -Um... -What am I gonna do with you? 299 00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:41,493 Shouldn't marry it. 300 00:17:41,493 --> 00:17:44,496 [blows raspberry] 301 00:17:44,496 --> 00:17:48,133 -That's your reasoning? -[sighs] I don't know. 302 00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:50,536 I was talking to Gary today. 303 00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:55,174 -Ooh... -Yeah, and... 304 00:17:55,174 --> 00:17:59,645 You know... he's going through... 305 00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:02,815 -a rough patch, obviously. -Yeah. 306 00:18:02,815 --> 00:18:04,483 Um... 307 00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:09,188 But we thought, maybe, 308 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:12,691 maybe we should do a doc or something. 309 00:18:12,691 --> 00:18:16,762 I mean about marriage, not just... 310 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:19,164 -Divorce. -Yeah. 311 00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:25,104 I mean, it's topical right now. 312 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,772 Mm-hmm, that's true. 313 00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:29,641 I think you should do it. I think you should talk to people. 314 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:33,679 -Uh-huh. -And then I think you should figure out 315 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:35,781 why it is that you have so much confusion 316 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:38,150 around this specific topic. 317 00:18:39,651 --> 00:18:41,620 You make it sound really easy. 318 00:18:43,489 --> 00:18:49,394 Well... From my point of view, it is. 319 00:18:49,394 --> 00:18:52,297 But I know that it's more complicated than that. 320 00:18:52,865 --> 00:18:56,568 -Do it. -Yeah? 321 00:18:56,568 --> 00:18:58,270 Yeah. 322 00:18:58,270 --> 00:19:00,339 I'll think about it. 323 00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:04,877 [tape rewinding] 324 00:19:05,777 --> 00:19:07,379 I think it was also... 325 00:19:07,379 --> 00:19:09,181 -[Sarah] Could you repeat that? -OK, sorry. 326 00:19:09,181 --> 00:19:10,816 What was my question again? 327 00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:12,518 Did you think that marriage was something, something-- 328 00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:16,622 Oh, yes. I always thought I would get married. 329 00:19:16,622 --> 00:19:20,459 -Um, I think it was just-- -What is this for? 330 00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:25,430 You know, we were talking about marriage 331 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:27,599 and exploring all that, 332 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:32,571 so the opportunity presented itself and I seized. 333 00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:35,307 ...all of our friends that pretty much marriage was what-- 334 00:19:35,307 --> 00:19:36,909 OK. 335 00:19:39,945 --> 00:19:41,313 So? 336 00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:44,449 It's not what we talked about. 337 00:19:44,449 --> 00:19:46,185 What did we talk about? 338 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,453 I thought we were talking about gay marriage. 339 00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:52,658 These are, like, the straightest people I've ever seen. 340 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:54,693 Nothing against that, of course, but... 341 00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:56,562 Right, right, right. 342 00:19:57,796 --> 00:20:00,199 I thought we talked about, you know, 343 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,601 embracing our community and discovering, like, 344 00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:05,237 -how people are dealing with... -Yeah, yeah, I guess I think-- 345 00:20:05,237 --> 00:20:06,838 ...this marriage epidemic. 346 00:20:06,838 --> 00:20:09,875 -[chuckles] Epidemic? -It's sickly. 347 00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:12,744 Yeah, I guess, I thought that was a part of it, 348 00:20:12,744 --> 00:20:16,281 but I was thinking broader, but... 349 00:20:16,281 --> 00:20:19,251 You're totally right, it's better if it's more specific. 350 00:20:19,251 --> 00:20:22,454 If I were you, I would dedicate some time to this. 351 00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:24,389 Would you do it with me? 352 00:20:25,991 --> 00:20:27,826 Um... 353 00:20:27,826 --> 00:20:31,330 Well, maybe it'll help. 354 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,532 Yeah. 355 00:20:33,532 --> 00:20:35,834 I was kind of thinking... 356 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,638 along the same lines. 357 00:20:40,439 --> 00:20:41,907 For both of us. 358 00:20:48,947 --> 00:20:51,350 That's a serious camera. 359 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,018 Give it to me, I'll set it on the table. 360 00:20:53,018 --> 00:20:55,621 -Good point, I should probably... -Put it on silent. 361 00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:57,289 Actually, turn it off. 362 00:20:57,289 --> 00:21:00,759 So, this can go in your pocket 363 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,795 or wherever is comfortable for you. 364 00:21:03,795 --> 00:21:05,497 What are we signing away to now? 365 00:21:05,497 --> 00:21:06,898 [laughing] 366 00:21:06,898 --> 00:21:09,668 [Sarah] Our permission to photograph your... 367 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:11,370 -Likeness. -[Sarah] Faces. 368 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,471 OK. 369 00:21:14,339 --> 00:21:17,009 [Gary] All right. Say, we're ready when you are, Sarah. 370 00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:19,044 [Sarah] OK, cool. 371 00:21:19,044 --> 00:21:21,513 Um, so, thank you guys. 372 00:21:21,513 --> 00:21:23,382 -Of course. -Thank you. Yeah. 373 00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:25,284 [Sarah] A couple things. 374 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:28,954 If you could use my question in your answer, 375 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,923 in the event that, you know, my voice is not in the film. 376 00:21:31,923 --> 00:21:34,960 So if I say, "Erin, what color is your shirt?" 377 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,895 You can say, "My shirt is blue and white." 378 00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:38,597 Instead of just, "Blue and white." 379 00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:42,334 -Got it. -That's a hard one to remember. 380 00:21:42,334 --> 00:21:43,802 [Sarah] I'll remind you. 381 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:48,774 If you forget, I might ask you to say it again 382 00:21:48,774 --> 00:21:52,878 with a question, so I'll just say, "Could you rephrase that for me?" 383 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:55,814 Sure. 384 00:21:55,814 --> 00:21:58,850 [Sarah] And, yeah, this will be fun, I hope. 385 00:21:58,850 --> 00:22:03,055 But... if anything, like, starts to make you uncomfortable, 386 00:22:03,055 --> 00:22:05,557 you're totally allowed to say, "I don't want to talk about that." 387 00:22:05,557 --> 00:22:08,327 [laughing] If we start to make you uncomfortable 388 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:11,430 just let us know, then we'll tone back. 389 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:14,566 [door opens] 390 00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:16,835 Hello. 391 00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:17,969 [door closes] 392 00:22:17,969 --> 00:22:19,538 Hello. 393 00:22:19,538 --> 00:22:23,508 -What you got there? -Fruits of my labor. 394 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,046 [Sarah] You labored so hard for those fruits. 395 00:22:28,046 --> 00:22:31,516 Yeah, tell me about it. 396 00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:33,919 [light music plays in background] 397 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:42,561 Hey... 398 00:22:42,561 --> 00:22:44,663 [groans] 399 00:22:45,397 --> 00:22:47,099 Just new EP. 400 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:50,702 I just don't know what's gonna happen... to the show. 401 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:56,441 -Stressful. -Mm-hmm. 402 00:22:57,743 --> 00:23:00,479 Chug the wine. Put on the clothes. 403 00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:02,481 Shut up, come here. 404 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:06,752 [sighing] 405 00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:08,787 [Sarah] It's going to be OK. 406 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:15,660 That is warm. 407 00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:19,998 -Ooh. Sounds expensive. -Oh, it was. 408 00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:22,033 -Yeah? -OK, open it. 409 00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:26,738 Just what I've always wanted. 410 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:30,742 -I know you like ties. -Come here. Yes I do. 411 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,644 You can't borrow it for at least a week. 412 00:23:32,644 --> 00:23:33,979 -OK. -OK. 413 00:23:33,979 --> 00:23:37,549 I won't touch it. Except right now. 414 00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:39,017 As I take it off of you. 415 00:23:39,017 --> 00:23:40,786 [rock music] 416 00:23:40,786 --> 00:23:43,622 ♪ What the fuck is lady like? Lady like ♪ 417 00:23:43,622 --> 00:23:47,025 ♪ Do what the... just like you ♪ 418 00:23:47,025 --> 00:23:49,628 [lyrics continue indistinct] 419 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,475 ♪ On my knees ♪ 420 00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:06,044 ♪ Or on all fours ♪ 421 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:09,581 ♪ From underneath ♪ 422 00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:12,584 ♪ Hear me roar ♪ 423 00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:15,620 ♪ What the fuck is lady like? ♪ 424 00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:24,196 I think this one got bigger. 425 00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:28,867 No. 426 00:24:30,068 --> 00:24:32,504 Yes. 427 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,874 You should get it looked at. 428 00:24:39,778 --> 00:24:41,880 I can't. 429 00:24:42,848 --> 00:24:44,683 You can. 430 00:24:50,255 --> 00:24:52,157 An envelope? 431 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:56,561 -Mm-hmm. -Circle and ticket inside. 432 00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,129 Of sorts. 433 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:03,635 [gasps] 434 00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:07,873 Cool. 435 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,276 -Uh... -This is... 436 00:25:13,078 --> 00:25:15,514 [laughing] 437 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:16,648 What? 438 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:20,886 This is big, OK? 439 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,154 I just need you to acknowledge this is a thing. 440 00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:26,024 I know. I know it's a thing. 441 00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,795 It's also, literally, saving my life. 442 00:25:31,897 --> 00:25:33,532 Agreed. 443 00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:49,848 So? 444 00:25:51,082 --> 00:25:53,885 Round two, hot domestic partner sex? 445 00:25:53,885 --> 00:25:55,620 [laughing] 446 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,089 I don't... would you have been ready 447 00:25:58,089 --> 00:26:01,159 to get married at that point? 448 00:26:01,159 --> 00:26:02,894 I don't know that I was ready to get married 449 00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:05,830 when you proposed, so no, I was not. 450 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:07,799 I was not ready to get married at the point 451 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,968 when we did the domestic partnership. 452 00:26:09,968 --> 00:26:16,107 So, I mean, I think the, for me, at least, 453 00:26:16,107 --> 00:26:20,979 maybe from your perspective, the advantage of not having 454 00:26:20,979 --> 00:26:22,681 had the legal rights to do this, 455 00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:25,083 allowed me to sort of dip my toe in the water 456 00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:29,020 and say, "OK, the water's not so bad," with each step. 457 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:31,122 Domestic partnership, to me, just always seemed 458 00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:33,692 so clinical a term, you know? 459 00:26:33,692 --> 00:26:39,297 That, it's not exactly a loving word. 460 00:26:39,297 --> 00:26:41,967 If you weren't a gay couple, you could get a domestic partnership. 461 00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:44,035 You could be married or have a domestic partnership. 462 00:26:44,035 --> 00:26:46,738 You had choices. We didn't have any choices. 463 00:26:46,738 --> 00:26:50,875 We fought for any inkling of recognition and protection. 464 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:54,846 And so, when they say, "Here's your domestic partnership. 465 00:26:54,846 --> 00:26:57,315 It's the same as marriage, don't you want this?" 466 00:26:57,315 --> 00:27:01,620 It's an insult. It's almost like a business transaction, 467 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:07,058 whereas marriage has such a resonance of love 468 00:27:07,058 --> 00:27:10,929 and event that brings people together to celebrate. 469 00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:14,132 I don't feel any pressure to get married. 470 00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:16,301 Like at all, I don't think. 471 00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:19,838 -Do you? -No, I don't really feel any... 472 00:27:19,838 --> 00:27:23,174 Yeah, I don't feel any pressure to get married now that it's legal. 473 00:27:23,174 --> 00:27:27,379 But I know for some people it really... it's really important to them, and... 474 00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:30,081 We're also just not that old yet. 475 00:27:30,081 --> 00:27:32,217 -It's true. -It's true. 476 00:27:32,217 --> 00:27:34,019 No one's asking us yet. 477 00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:36,221 I feel like the pressure will mount 478 00:27:36,221 --> 00:27:39,858 the longer we're together and the older we get. 479 00:27:39,858 --> 00:27:41,960 If I knew a couple in their early 30s 480 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,795 who had been together for like 12 years, 481 00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:47,365 I mean, I'd ask, like, "What's up?" 482 00:27:52,137 --> 00:27:54,205 [Kristen] I just wanted to introduce myself 483 00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:57,676 and talk a little bit about my role here on the show. 484 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,811 Thus far, I've been with the show about five, six years. 485 00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:01,746 -[man] Five years, right? -Yep. 486 00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:04,916 Um... and in that time, we have really worked 487 00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:07,152 at identifying who our consumer is. 488 00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:08,787 And trying to steer our show, 489 00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:10,855 design our show for that consumer. 490 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:13,058 Well, it looks like the first two years you guys did really well. 491 00:28:13,058 --> 00:28:15,293 -Yep. -There's been a steady decline since then. 492 00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:18,163 Yeah, well, there's been a little bit of saturation in the market, 493 00:28:18,163 --> 00:28:21,733 but we have a lot of really interesting things coming up on the schedule. 494 00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:27,772 -A lot of new ideas that-- -Listen, Kristen, um... 495 00:28:27,772 --> 00:28:30,041 -I have a budget to meet. -Sure. 496 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:31,376 I have deadlines. 497 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:33,244 I think that the best thing to do 498 00:28:33,244 --> 00:28:37,348 -is to clean house, start over. -Sure. 499 00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:39,184 Pick up the pieces, you know what I mean? 500 00:28:39,184 --> 00:28:43,722 Yeah, of course, I... we've had new teams in the past 501 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:47,726 and... usually it causes a little bit of a hiccup-- 502 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,494 Well, hopefully this is the last time. 503 00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:52,330 -Sure. -I'm sure you're a great producer, Kristen, 504 00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:55,100 and we've really had a great run here, 505 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,235 but I think I have to let you go. 506 00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,039 Oh. 507 00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:09,414 OK. Is Nina aware that this is happening? 508 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:13,485 I mean.... I've been with the show since it started. 509 00:29:13,485 --> 00:29:15,487 No, I think that you could tell her. 510 00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:19,424 Um... if that's difficult, maybe have her schedule a meeting with me. 511 00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:22,894 [muffled speaking] 512 00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:36,841 [maLiving a life of joy 513 00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:41,846 doesn't mean that there aren't horribly depressing days. 514 00:29:41,846 --> 00:29:47,285 And so, we try to sit down and talk out the sadness. 515 00:29:47,285 --> 00:29:49,254 The communication is key 516 00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:51,923 because it helps you get back out of the sadness 517 00:29:51,923 --> 00:29:54,058 and back into the joy. 518 00:29:54,058 --> 00:29:55,827 [tape rewinding] 519 00:29:55,827 --> 00:29:57,195 -Does that make sense? -[man 2] It makes sense. 520 00:29:57,195 --> 00:29:59,330 -[man 1] OK. -[man 2] And breakfast. 521 00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:01,466 -[man 1] Breakfast. -[man 2] We always have breakfast together. 522 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:03,368 That's just part of the joy. 523 00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:05,937 So I get up, once we're done cuddling, I get up, 524 00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:08,139 -and I make breakfast. -[man 1] And then good luck. 525 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:11,242 And the dance breaks. The dance breaks are very important. 526 00:30:11,242 --> 00:30:15,914 -Mandatory dance breaks. -Yes, regular. 527 00:30:15,914 --> 00:30:18,383 [Sarah] So the secret to being together 528 00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:22,520 successfully for 30 years is: communication, cuddling, 529 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,255 breakfast, and dancing. 530 00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:26,891 And the other secret to being together for 30 years, 531 00:30:26,891 --> 00:30:29,828 I mean, I attribute it to the fact that Steven won't leave. 532 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,463 [laughing] 533 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:39,103 You wrote that a few days ago. [laughing] 534 00:30:39,103 --> 00:30:42,106 -I love them. -[tape rewinding] 535 00:30:42,106 --> 00:30:44,142 [man 1] Thirty years together, and the biggest fights we've had 536 00:30:44,142 --> 00:30:48,513 are based on who's going to get the bigger piece of cake. 537 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:51,216 Because we always, literally, over breakfast, 538 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:55,486 he will portion out the food and I will give him the plate with more food on it. 539 00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:57,222 And he says, "No, no, no, that's for you. 540 00:30:57,222 --> 00:30:59,290 You take the one with more food." 541 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:01,893 And I think that's one of the reasons we have succeeded. 542 00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:06,898 Because our instinct is always going outward. 543 00:31:06,898 --> 00:31:09,067 Are you leaving? 544 00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,903 Um... yeah. 545 00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:14,572 I'm gonna go. 546 00:31:14,572 --> 00:31:17,242 I don't... I don't feel that well. 547 00:31:18,276 --> 00:31:19,544 Uh... 548 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:21,212 I don't think I can listen to 549 00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:23,882 another Prince Charming tell his Prince Charming 550 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:27,619 -how much he loves him. -OK. 551 00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:30,555 Um... 552 00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:33,524 [Gary] Have you even once considered 553 00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:38,963 talking to... someone who's divorced? 554 00:31:39,931 --> 00:31:41,499 Mm-hmm. 555 00:31:41,499 --> 00:31:44,235 Have you set up an interview? 556 00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:45,904 No. 557 00:31:47,605 --> 00:31:49,374 OK. 558 00:31:57,348 --> 00:31:58,917 I just let you out. 559 00:32:00,952 --> 00:32:03,154 So I wrote a piece for Cosmo about my divorce, 560 00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:09,294 and it came on the heels of some other media 561 00:32:09,294 --> 00:32:14,532 about my divorce and the media was a little hyperbolic, 562 00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:19,070 it was like, "I was one of the first gay people 563 00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:20,405 to get divorced in New York." 564 00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:22,340 I don't know if that's true. 565 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:27,111 It might, I mean, I guess, probably, first-ish, but, 566 00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:30,615 um, so tCosmo piece came on the heels of a lot 567 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:32,984 of other media, and I felt like, 568 00:32:34,485 --> 00:32:37,088 as I felt in a lot of other situations in my life, 569 00:32:37,088 --> 00:32:39,157 like I was alone. 570 00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:41,993 I knew the article should be about the facts, 571 00:32:41,993 --> 00:32:43,494 what happened, and then how I dealt with it, 572 00:32:43,494 --> 00:32:45,129 because I didn't deal with it well, 573 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,198 because I did have another suicidal crisis, 574 00:32:47,198 --> 00:32:50,268 and I did live 10 blocks away from the George Washington Bridge, 575 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:54,539 and I did have to work through all of that, 576 00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:56,607 and work through the feelings of getting a divorce, 577 00:32:56,607 --> 00:32:58,710 and then the logistics of getting a divorce, 578 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:05,550 and knowing that the legal system might not have been 579 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:09,387 prepared to deal with gay divorces yet. 580 00:33:09,387 --> 00:33:12,757 I kind of hate when people say like divorce turns your world upside down. 581 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:17,095 I think that's very vague. It's more like it puts the world in a blender. 582 00:33:17,095 --> 00:33:20,298 Because nothing, it's like, nothing that you used to 583 00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:22,166 think makes sense makes sense anymore, 584 00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:25,003 and that's not to me upside down, that's more like 585 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,005 everything changes, everything changes. 586 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:29,307 Like, you're breaking up, it sucks for both people, 587 00:33:29,307 --> 00:33:32,744 there just happens to be a legal document around it. 588 00:33:32,744 --> 00:33:35,213 And I think when you commit to somebody, 589 00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:37,615 like in front of your peers and like there is 590 00:33:37,615 --> 00:33:39,617 an embarrassing part of it, where it's like, 591 00:33:39,617 --> 00:33:44,155 what's so wrong with me that I can't, like, accept her 592 00:33:44,155 --> 00:33:46,090 and love her for exactly who she is? 593 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:49,160 Like, what's wrong with, that's more than self-preservation, 594 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,129 like, what kept me in our relationship was, 595 00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:53,231 "What's wrong with me that I can't love this woman 596 00:33:53,231 --> 00:33:54,532 for exactly who she is?" 597 00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:56,601 [Sarah] Would you get married again? 598 00:33:58,136 --> 00:34:03,541 I don't know if I would get married again. 599 00:34:03,541 --> 00:34:07,145 -Yeah. -[Sarah] Why not? 600 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:11,149 Um... 601 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:14,285 [Sarah] Are you excited to be a free woman? 602 00:34:14,285 --> 00:34:16,721 You know you can do whatever you want. 603 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,727 It's going to be fine, you know. 604 00:34:24,328 --> 00:34:26,764 -Mm-hmm. -Mm-hmm. 605 00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:31,302 -It will be. -Yeah. Yep. 606 00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:34,405 Opportunities, right? 607 00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:38,209 It's totally gonna be fine. 608 00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:41,446 Sorry. 609 00:34:41,446 --> 00:34:44,182 [laughing] A little scary. 610 00:34:44,182 --> 00:34:46,217 This will be fine, too. 611 00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:48,586 -Promise. -OK. 612 00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:51,789 When was the last time I cooked for you? 613 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:56,594 -I don't know. -If you could do anything, what would it be? 614 00:34:58,463 --> 00:35:00,631 Not have this conversation right now. 615 00:35:02,567 --> 00:35:04,102 [Sarah] Okie dokie. 616 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:46,811 Fuck, are you fucking kidding me? 617 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:50,648 Sarah! 618 00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:52,917 Sarah! 619 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,755 Sarah... 620 00:35:57,755 --> 00:36:00,491 [beeping] 621 00:36:01,726 --> 00:36:05,296 -Sarah! Wake up! -What? 622 00:36:05,296 --> 00:36:08,533 There's gas everywhere. Get outside. 623 00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:12,370 Come here. Get outside right now. 624 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:14,939 Quickly. God, what the fuck? 625 00:36:14,939 --> 00:36:17,875 The fucking alarm, what is wrong with you? 626 00:36:17,875 --> 00:36:21,179 You leave the fucking oven on all night? 627 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,248 The pilot went out. We could have fucking died! 628 00:36:24,248 --> 00:36:25,650 What is wrong with you?! 629 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:29,420 Always. Always, it's me. 630 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:32,223 I always have to fucking be the one to pick us up 631 00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:34,525 and keep us from fucking dying! 632 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:36,394 Are you kidding me? 633 00:36:41,532 --> 00:36:43,768 We're OK. 634 00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:46,270 No one died. 635 00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:50,775 Thank you for waking up and saving us, but it's fine. 636 00:36:54,845 --> 00:36:56,480 Hey. 637 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:01,419 We're not OK. 638 00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:08,659 I lost my job today, Sarah. 639 00:37:08,659 --> 00:37:11,862 -I know. -My job. 640 00:37:12,997 --> 00:37:14,932 But you're gonna get another one. 641 00:37:14,932 --> 00:37:16,667 Not another. 642 00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:23,341 It's not that easy, you don't understand how big this is. 643 00:37:23,341 --> 00:37:27,545 How much our livelihood depends on this. 644 00:37:27,545 --> 00:37:30,715 How much of me depends on that. 645 00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:34,852 -OK. -I can't. 646 00:37:34,852 --> 00:37:36,587 OK. 647 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:42,693 -[crying] I need you to meet me. -I'm right here. 648 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:48,266 You've just got to tell me what to do. 649 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:52,003 Because you're right, I don't know all the stuff that you do. 650 00:37:52,003 --> 00:37:55,406 -But I can't help-- -I just need a partner. 651 00:37:55,406 --> 00:37:58,709 I want to do that for you, I want to be your partner. 652 00:37:58,709 --> 00:38:02,980 I can take more work. I can do that. 653 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:06,050 You've been holding us up, but I can go out there 654 00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:09,820 and I can take more jobs, it's not a big deal. 655 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,723 I'm drowning. 656 00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:16,427 -I'm drowning. -I'm not gonna let you drown. 657 00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:18,062 I'm not gonna let that happen. 658 00:38:19,397 --> 00:38:23,034 -We can figure this out. -It just is. 659 00:38:33,544 --> 00:38:38,482 [maI think of being married as, it's a verb. 660 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:40,918 It's not... it's not an adjective. 661 00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:43,888 It's something that you continually do every day. 662 00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:46,524 You wake up, hopefully, next to the person 663 00:38:46,524 --> 00:38:49,427 that you're married to, roll over, and say, 664 00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:51,762 "Do I want to do this again today?" 665 00:38:51,762 --> 00:38:53,497 And hopefully the answer is yes. 666 00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:57,468 And if it's not yes, then you say to the person, 667 00:38:57,468 --> 00:38:59,670 "Hey, I'm having these doubts." 668 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:02,773 [Sarah] Can I just see that transition again? 669 00:39:03,574 --> 00:39:04,909 OK. 670 00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:06,644 I know I've asked, like, six times, but... 671 00:39:06,644 --> 00:39:09,680 I'd like to believe that as an officiant 672 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,450 who's planning a wedding ceremony with a couple, 673 00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:14,352 I bring the fear. 674 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:17,555 I like to inject a little bit of uncertainty 675 00:39:17,555 --> 00:39:19,890 into the room because I think the 12 weeks 676 00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:22,626 leading up to a wedding as being the time where 677 00:39:22,626 --> 00:39:25,062 they can be tested by the people in their lives, 678 00:39:25,062 --> 00:39:27,131 and especially somebody that they probably don't know 679 00:39:27,131 --> 00:39:29,600 very well, like me, kind of just asking, like, 680 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,671 "Why do you want to do this?" Every time they see me. 681 00:39:33,671 --> 00:39:37,708 My main fear in same gender marriage 682 00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:43,848 is that in a way, we are sort of whitewashing who we are 683 00:39:43,848 --> 00:39:47,084 because a lot of our weddings look a lot like 684 00:39:47,084 --> 00:39:48,953 the weddings that people are used to, 685 00:39:48,953 --> 00:39:50,988 and I kind of want to turn during a wedding 686 00:39:50,988 --> 00:39:53,624 and be like, "Oh, and also, we fuck each other in the ass." 687 00:39:53,624 --> 00:39:55,059 You know? 688 00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:59,463 [applauding] 689 00:40:00,564 --> 00:40:02,633 Hey, everybody. 690 00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:05,136 Uh, thank you so much for being here. 691 00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:06,804 Especially late notice. 692 00:40:06,804 --> 00:40:10,040 This is awesome, super helpful for us. 693 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,679 We were up all night. And this is totally rough. 694 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,149 But we want to get your thoughts 695 00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,751 and see if our ideas are working. 696 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:24,088 So Gary's gonna pass out a questionnaire. 697 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:27,024 If you could fill that out after. 698 00:40:27,024 --> 00:40:31,896 And I tucked in my shirt, so this is serious. 699 00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:35,065 -[all laughing] -And I think we're good. 700 00:40:35,065 --> 00:40:37,134 Let's do this. 701 00:40:37,134 --> 00:40:40,037 -Baby, could you get the lights? -[Kristen] Mm-hmm. 702 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,976 [orchestral music] 703 00:40:47,978 --> 00:40:52,016 So I guess my thoughts about marriage from when I was younger 704 00:40:52,016 --> 00:40:56,587 were shaped by growing up in a family where the marriage 705 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,824 wasn't really that successful, in general. 706 00:40:59,824 --> 00:41:05,196 My parents separated when I was one or two, and that's my-- 707 00:41:05,196 --> 00:41:08,499 [man Mine was seven, so we both had divorced families. 708 00:41:08,499 --> 00:41:15,673 Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah, what does that say to a young person? 709 00:41:15,673 --> 00:41:18,576 It was twofold. One, coming from a home where the marriage 710 00:41:18,576 --> 00:41:21,212 wasn't necessarily a shining example, a perfect definition 711 00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:24,114 of marriage, it was more the working definition of marriage 712 00:41:24,114 --> 00:41:26,851 and the obligation of marriage and kids, 713 00:41:26,851 --> 00:41:30,654 on top of knowing that I was gay, I never thought about it. 714 00:41:30,654 --> 00:41:34,091 It was just something I always was resolved that would never happen. 715 00:41:34,091 --> 00:41:36,160 Yeah, I don't know where it came from. 716 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,628 I don't know where the ideas came from, 717 00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:39,096 but for me it was always... 718 00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:40,865 I wasn't like other girls 719 00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:42,933 in the sense that I wasn't dreaming up 720 00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:44,935 what my wedding would look like when I was little, 721 00:41:44,935 --> 00:41:48,205 but as I started to get older, I very much had that idea 722 00:41:48,205 --> 00:41:51,709 of I want one person. I want a lifetime partner. 723 00:41:51,709 --> 00:41:56,080 I want that... I want that Notebook shit. 724 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,681 [laughing] 725 00:41:57,681 --> 00:42:00,784 -Can I cuss? -[Sara] Yes. 726 00:42:00,784 --> 00:42:03,020 If you're a bird, I'm a bird. That's what I wanted. 727 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:07,091 [man] Let's just say, marriage is queer, in and of itself. 728 00:42:07,091 --> 00:42:11,095 Why would we commit ourselves to being monogamous 729 00:42:11,095 --> 00:42:17,601 or truly committed, emotionally, to another person? 730 00:42:17,601 --> 00:42:19,603 And I think once we sort of say, like, 731 00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:22,306 "This whole thing is sort of queer and weird to begin with," 732 00:42:22,306 --> 00:42:25,643 then I think it opens up tons of windows and doors 733 00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:29,947 to lots of possibilities for what a marriage can be. 734 00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:34,051 [woman] I think vows are really fucked up because they're really rigid, 735 00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:37,221 and it's like a promise to someone that you're gonna be 736 00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:40,558 the same way and do the same thing for, for forever. 737 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:44,161 Contractually obligating yourself in a relationship, 738 00:42:44,161 --> 00:42:46,997 meaning like the legal definition of marriage is basically a contract, right? 739 00:42:46,997 --> 00:42:50,568 And then when you want to get a divorce, it's breaking a contract. 740 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:52,603 Um... that's really expensive. 741 00:42:52,603 --> 00:42:56,273 Prohibitively expensive to, perhaps, low income people. 742 00:42:56,273 --> 00:42:59,877 A lot of people spend a lot of time, perhaps, 743 00:42:59,877 --> 00:43:02,146 in relationships that aren't right for them 744 00:43:02,146 --> 00:43:05,849 because they're married and can't afford a divorce. 745 00:43:05,849 --> 00:43:08,085 [woman] I think that's a huge conversation to have 746 00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,054 because the reality is that 50 percent of people don't make it. 747 00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:11,956 Fifty percent of couples don't make it. 748 00:43:11,956 --> 00:43:13,324 [woman 2] It's just one of those things 749 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:15,693 that we don't want to believe 750 00:43:15,693 --> 00:43:18,062 can happen to us. 751 00:43:21,131 --> 00:43:24,368 [chattering] 752 00:43:37,915 --> 00:43:40,250 [Kristen] This always happens. It's the middle. 753 00:43:41,151 --> 00:43:43,220 It's messy. 754 00:43:45,356 --> 00:43:49,627 Every time, you push through it, and you have something incredible. 755 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,261 Just push through it, OK? 756 00:43:51,261 --> 00:43:54,198 I just want to figure it out by now. 757 00:43:55,899 --> 00:43:57,901 No shortcuts. 758 00:44:00,204 --> 00:44:01,939 You can do it. 759 00:44:01,939 --> 00:44:04,108 I have faith in you. 760 00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:06,877 You have Ibuprofen? 761 00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:08,245 [pill bottle shaking] 762 00:44:08,245 --> 00:44:10,748 This is a sty. 763 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,655 I thought you were gonna turn this in. 764 00:44:21,725 --> 00:44:23,727 [sighing] 765 00:44:23,727 --> 00:44:27,965 Can you do it tomorrow, because I need coverage by the first. 766 00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:36,907 I don't think I can. 767 00:44:38,442 --> 00:44:40,244 What? 768 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:46,850 [sighing] 769 00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:49,219 Sarah, I love you. 770 00:44:50,087 --> 00:44:51,822 I really love you. 771 00:44:53,157 --> 00:44:55,059 And I want to take care of you. 772 00:44:55,059 --> 00:44:57,261 And I want you to be healthy and happy. 773 00:44:57,261 --> 00:44:59,930 [Sarah] So? 774 00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:02,733 I want this to be bigger than a doctor's appointment and, I... 775 00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:04,001 [Sarah groans] 776 00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:09,406 This is bigger than a doctor's appointment. 777 00:45:09,406 --> 00:45:11,275 -Is it? -Yes. 778 00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:14,712 Really, because it looks like you're avoiding something. 779 00:45:14,712 --> 00:45:16,980 Domestic partnership is the easy way out, Sarah. 780 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,283 This is just so that I can have health insurance. 781 00:45:19,283 --> 00:45:21,485 This has nothing to do with this other conversation. 782 00:45:21,485 --> 00:45:24,288 It does, OK, it does. 783 00:45:25,289 --> 00:45:27,224 It has everything to do with it. 784 00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:31,762 If that happens, I'm never gonna get anything else. 785 00:45:31,762 --> 00:45:34,798 I am trying, OK? 786 00:45:34,798 --> 00:45:39,937 I am spending all of my time trying to figure this out. 787 00:45:39,937 --> 00:45:43,340 You sent me on this journey and I'm trying to go on it, 788 00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:46,143 but I don't get where the pressure is. 789 00:45:47,478 --> 00:45:49,880 I want you to want to go on this journey. 790 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,515 I do, I'm doing it. 791 00:45:51,515 --> 00:45:53,383 I am literally putting it up 792 00:45:53,383 --> 00:45:57,855 in the middle of our living room and working on it. 793 00:45:57,855 --> 00:45:59,923 I stayed up all night last night working on it 794 00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:01,792 and I don't understand what you want from me. 795 00:46:01,792 --> 00:46:04,328 That is abstract. 796 00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:06,997 -This is us. -This is real. 797 00:46:06,997 --> 00:46:08,499 These are real people. 798 00:46:08,499 --> 00:46:10,267 And marriage is fucked up 799 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,503 and complicated and messy and gross 800 00:46:12,503 --> 00:46:15,105 and this is what it is. If you don't like the look of that, 801 00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,107 then I don't know what to do. 802 00:46:17,107 --> 00:46:20,110 You see what you want to see. 803 00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:27,184 I just want to be with you and not feel like 804 00:46:27,184 --> 00:46:30,387 you're basing this relationship on whether or not 805 00:46:30,387 --> 00:46:32,856 I'm going to give you a ring. 806 00:46:36,059 --> 00:46:39,797 You mean so much more to me than that. 807 00:46:42,432 --> 00:46:44,968 I'm not holding you hostage. 808 00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:51,074 [Sarah] From a psychological perspective, 809 00:46:51,074 --> 00:46:53,877 why does getting married feel like something 810 00:46:53,877 --> 00:46:55,412 we should be striving for? 811 00:46:55,412 --> 00:46:57,014 Well, first of all, 812 00:46:57,014 --> 00:46:58,849 I don't think everybody strives for marriage, 813 00:46:58,849 --> 00:47:01,285 but there are people who love to put on a big show. 814 00:47:01,285 --> 00:47:06,190 Marriage ceremonies, big parties, are announcements to the wider world, 815 00:47:06,190 --> 00:47:09,359 to the wider community, to both sides of the family, 816 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:11,562 that something is taking place and that 817 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:14,498 two people are being joined in a very public way. 818 00:47:14,498 --> 00:47:16,567 For some gay people, this is a very big deal 819 00:47:16,567 --> 00:47:21,305 because it used to be that those relationships were secret. 820 00:47:21,305 --> 00:47:23,273 Nobody knew about those relationships. 821 00:47:23,273 --> 00:47:25,542 So, for some people, being able to be openly gay, 822 00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:27,878 have a big wedding, is very important. 823 00:47:27,878 --> 00:47:30,914 -But again, not everybody. -[Sarah] Do you think that 824 00:47:30,914 --> 00:47:35,619 long-term relationships are inherently problematic? 825 00:47:37,254 --> 00:47:39,957 Hm. [laughing] 826 00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:43,126 -I'm sorry. -[Sarah] It's OK. 827 00:47:43,126 --> 00:47:46,964 -[tape rewinding] -Is that every long-term relationship is a successful 828 00:47:46,964 --> 00:47:49,867 series of divorces and remarriages. 829 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:52,069 So that the couple, who they are, 830 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:54,538 many years into the relationship, are not the same 831 00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:57,074 as they were when they first started out. 832 00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:59,977 And unless they can negotiate those separations 833 00:47:59,977 --> 00:48:03,347 and realignments of the relationship, the relationships don't work. 834 00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:05,349 Life became very rote, you know, 835 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:08,151 like coming home, watching TV. 836 00:48:08,151 --> 00:48:10,587 Even the same thing for dinner kind of night after night, 837 00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:14,524 you know, so that there's no seeing each other anew, 838 00:48:14,524 --> 00:48:16,894 you know, or planning things. 839 00:48:16,894 --> 00:48:20,230 It was just, I would say, taking each other for granted 840 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:22,199 -was the best way-- -It's like frustrated by patterns. 841 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,667 I think, like, you know, I think people 842 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:26,136 get into patterns, and I don't like patterns, 843 00:48:26,136 --> 00:48:28,105 but I think sometimes it's like, 844 00:48:28,105 --> 00:48:29,640 you're not only frustrated with your relationship, 845 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,174 but you're frustrated with yourself. 846 00:48:31,174 --> 00:48:33,143 I was stagnant in my life. 847 00:48:33,143 --> 00:48:37,648 I wasn't happy with anything what I was doing, you know. 848 00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:39,616 It was very hard to find work. 849 00:48:39,616 --> 00:48:42,953 So I think that a lot of times, just life is 850 00:48:42,953 --> 00:48:45,188 leading the relationship, like things in life 851 00:48:45,188 --> 00:48:47,257 start to just weigh on the relationship. 852 00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:49,693 Kind of got into like a boring kind of, 853 00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:52,930 we were like, wow, this is like not good. 854 00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:58,602 You working from home all week? 855 00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:00,070 Mm-hmm. 856 00:49:00,070 --> 00:49:04,441 -You have any interviews today? -Tomorrow. 857 00:49:06,143 --> 00:49:07,644 [man] If you're in a long-term relationship, 858 00:49:07,644 --> 00:49:11,148 you're going to see the person, warts and all. 859 00:49:11,148 --> 00:49:13,684 You're going to see their good sides and you're going to see their bad sides. 860 00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:16,420 At beginning, everybody's showing each other their good sides, 861 00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:18,655 but when you start moving in together, 862 00:49:18,655 --> 00:49:20,457 when you're together for a long time, 863 00:49:20,457 --> 00:49:22,359 you see things you don't like. 864 00:49:22,359 --> 00:49:25,562 And learning to live with parts of the other person 865 00:49:25,562 --> 00:49:29,132 that you don't like is a challenge in every relationship. 866 00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:32,202 [clearing throat] 867 00:49:34,504 --> 00:49:36,440 Sarah. 868 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,608 [man] Those little things that you, 869 00:49:38,608 --> 00:49:40,477 maybe they're quirks or they're things, 870 00:49:40,477 --> 00:49:42,646 I would say this; when you're in love with somebody, 871 00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:44,581 you love their faults. 872 00:49:44,581 --> 00:49:46,516 And when you're falling out of love with somebody 873 00:49:46,516 --> 00:49:48,185 or you're not into them, 874 00:49:48,185 --> 00:49:50,253 it literally is the opposite feeling. 875 00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:53,557 Those faults are magnified and you're like... [groans] 876 00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,229 Hey. 877 00:49:59,629 --> 00:50:01,465 Hey. 878 00:50:04,334 --> 00:50:07,137 Why are you here again? 879 00:50:08,338 --> 00:50:10,273 Why are you here? 880 00:50:11,375 --> 00:50:13,143 I have to go to work. 881 00:50:14,511 --> 00:50:17,080 I have to go to bed. 882 00:50:17,581 --> 00:50:19,182 OK. 883 00:50:22,386 --> 00:50:25,555 -I love you. -I love you. 884 00:50:33,797 --> 00:50:35,465 [Kristen] When do they take out the stitches? 885 00:50:35,465 --> 00:50:38,735 [Sarah] That was like two weeks ago. 886 00:50:38,735 --> 00:50:41,071 [Kristen] Well, they left one behind. 887 00:50:41,071 --> 00:50:44,074 We have to get this out, otherwise it's not gonna heal. 888 00:50:46,443 --> 00:50:48,545 All right, let me get my tweezers. 889 00:50:52,649 --> 00:50:56,520 All right, here we go. 890 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,156 [Sarah] Ow, fuck. 891 00:51:01,491 --> 00:51:03,493 This one's my favorite. 892 00:51:03,493 --> 00:51:05,429 -Yeah? -Mm-hmm. 893 00:51:05,429 --> 00:51:08,331 You think they're gonna take that one away, too? 894 00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:10,700 No. 895 00:51:12,102 --> 00:51:14,538 -It's safe. -Really? 896 00:51:15,572 --> 00:51:17,441 How do you know? 897 00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:21,111 -I'll keep an eye on it. -OK. 898 00:51:23,146 --> 00:51:25,482 Ooh, ow. Mm-mm. 899 00:51:25,482 --> 00:51:27,184 -No? -Mm-mm. 900 00:51:28,151 --> 00:51:30,287 It's gotta come out. 901 00:51:30,287 --> 00:51:33,623 I think, if you just leave it, 902 00:51:33,623 --> 00:51:35,559 isn't it just gonna do its thing and-- 903 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:37,394 No, it's not healing because it's in there, 904 00:51:37,394 --> 00:51:39,496 so either I'm gonna take it out, or a doctor's gonna take it out. 905 00:51:39,496 --> 00:51:41,431 -But it's gotta come out. -We wouldn't be 906 00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:43,300 in this situation if I just had health insurance. 907 00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:45,635 Oh, you want to have that conversation? 908 00:51:46,736 --> 00:51:49,139 -Do you? -I'm tugging. 909 00:51:49,139 --> 00:51:51,241 -Ow. -Sarah, it's been a month, 910 00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:55,712 where are you, what's going on in that head of yours? 911 00:51:56,546 --> 00:51:59,282 Uh... I don't. 912 00:51:59,282 --> 00:52:02,285 -Oh my God. -You got it all since our last conversation? 913 00:52:02,285 --> 00:52:04,187 -I don't know, Kristen-- -Just give me something 914 00:52:04,187 --> 00:52:05,722 to go on because otherwise I'm gonna-- 915 00:52:05,722 --> 00:52:08,758 -Ow, fuck. -Sarah, you cannot wiggle... 916 00:52:08,758 --> 00:52:11,128 -Jesus Christ. -...while I'm pulling something out of you. 917 00:52:11,128 --> 00:52:12,462 -It hurts. -I know it does. 918 00:52:12,462 --> 00:52:14,397 -Please just grit your teeth. -[grunts] 919 00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:17,901 [SaraI don't know where I am in relation to you. 920 00:52:17,901 --> 00:52:21,271 [overlapping dialogue] 921 00:52:21,271 --> 00:52:24,207 I don't want to get married! 922 00:52:29,212 --> 00:52:30,680 Got it. 923 00:52:40,624 --> 00:52:42,559 [man] We just weren't that couple. 924 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,694 Nobody suspected us ever of getting divorced. 925 00:52:44,694 --> 00:52:46,730 Like everybody looked at us and said, "Oh, you're perfect." 926 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:49,566 And... but they didn't really know, you know, 927 00:52:49,566 --> 00:52:51,401 no one ever knows what happens behind closed doors 928 00:52:51,401 --> 00:52:54,371 and nothing terrible, nothing bad happened, 929 00:52:54,371 --> 00:52:56,406 we just were slowly drifting apart. 930 00:52:56,406 --> 00:52:58,341 I thought, "Oh, I could never get divorced." 931 00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:01,244 I genuinely thought we would never get divorced. 932 00:53:01,244 --> 00:53:02,913 Didn't even cross my... I thought, 933 00:53:02,913 --> 00:53:05,916 because both of our parents were divorced, so I thought, 934 00:53:05,916 --> 00:53:07,817 "Oh, we broke the spell." 935 00:53:07,817 --> 00:53:10,620 We were married longer than both of our parents were. 936 00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:11,955 So I thought we broke the spell. 937 00:53:11,955 --> 00:53:13,323 I thought we broke the curse 938 00:53:13,323 --> 00:53:16,193 and clearly we didn't, so... 939 00:53:16,193 --> 00:53:19,296 I don't understand what these words mean. 940 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:24,334 -What is PNL management? -Things I did. 941 00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:25,702 -Just... -OK. 942 00:53:25,702 --> 00:53:29,472 -[soft chuckle] -Is the layout OK? 943 00:53:29,472 --> 00:53:31,408 -Yeah. -OK. 944 00:53:31,408 --> 00:53:37,347 I mean, it's impressive, I just... don't recognize you. 945 00:53:37,347 --> 00:53:41,284 [chuckle] What? 946 00:53:44,521 --> 00:53:46,623 Yeah, I mean, it's like. 947 00:53:48,658 --> 00:53:50,961 Do you want to keep doing this stuff? 948 00:53:52,629 --> 00:53:55,999 [chuckle] It's what pays the bills, baby. 949 00:53:55,999 --> 00:53:58,768 -[Sarah] Looks good. -[Kristen] OK, sending it. 950 00:53:58,768 --> 00:54:00,670 [woman] You came from The Spoon. 951 00:54:00,670 --> 00:54:01,938 [Kristen] Mm-hmm. 952 00:54:01,938 --> 00:54:03,540 [woman] Now you're at the rival. 953 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:05,275 [laughing] Yeah, well. 954 00:54:05,275 --> 00:54:07,811 I was wiThe Spoon for quite a long time, 955 00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:09,779 I was with them for almost six years. 956 00:54:09,779 --> 00:54:12,249 -And-- -So why did you leave? 957 00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:13,850 What are you looking for? 958 00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:16,886 [Kristen] I was looking to go in another direction. 959 00:54:16,886 --> 00:54:21,258 Hmm. Like what? What do you want? 960 00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:23,026 What would you love to bring to this show? 961 00:54:23,026 --> 00:54:27,264 [Kristen] Your show seems so steady and so, um... 962 00:54:28,498 --> 00:54:30,567 I've been loving your content lately. 963 00:54:30,567 --> 00:54:32,836 Oh, great, great. What do you love? 964 00:54:32,836 --> 00:54:34,738 -Um... -What would you like to add? 965 00:54:34,738 --> 00:54:38,008 -What do you think we need? -Well, I think-- 966 00:54:38,008 --> 00:54:44,814 If I could create your dream job, what would it be? 967 00:54:45,448 --> 00:54:48,585 Um... 968 00:54:48,585 --> 00:54:50,587 Stream of consciousness, I'll take anything. 969 00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:52,856 I've never been asked that in an interview before, so... 970 00:54:52,856 --> 00:54:55,458 Impress me, why do I want to hire you? [laughing] 971 00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:56,626 It's an interview, it's an interview. 972 00:54:56,626 --> 00:54:58,561 I... 973 00:55:00,063 --> 00:55:04,301 -Well... -What do you want? 974 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:08,405 [chattering on TV] 975 00:55:08,405 --> 00:55:14,077 I had to deal with my ego in a new way in your 30s. 976 00:55:14,077 --> 00:55:17,447 You have like a... in your 30s you have a self-perception. 977 00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:20,450 I had a self-perception that I was very diplomatic, 978 00:55:20,450 --> 00:55:24,487 that I was very even keeled that I knew how to communicate. 979 00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:26,923 And then this transition came upon me 980 00:55:26,923 --> 00:55:29,392 where I felt like my identity was gutted. 981 00:55:29,392 --> 00:55:33,730 It really bares you out on the table. 982 00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:36,566 And I could feel the film of it like on me, 983 00:55:36,566 --> 00:55:38,968 like, "Oh, you're not being yourself." 984 00:55:38,968 --> 00:55:42,972 And it was really strange to feel that way for a number of months. 985 00:55:42,972 --> 00:55:47,043 [SaraWhat was it that allowed you to come out of that? 986 00:55:47,043 --> 00:55:50,046 [womaI think what allowed me to come out of that 987 00:55:50,046 --> 00:55:56,619 sort of hardened period was just an acceptance that things take time. 988 00:55:56,619 --> 00:56:00,857 A sort of, like, lesson of trusting the process. 989 00:56:00,857 --> 00:56:03,560 That processes are actually slow. 990 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,730 Confronting my own impatience was really important. 991 00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:12,469 And actually just being OK with things as they are 992 00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:15,372 and not having to push for a certain outcome, 993 00:56:15,372 --> 00:56:21,644 not having to aggressively be proactive about something and stimulated. 994 00:56:26,416 --> 00:56:28,017 Mimi? 995 00:56:28,017 --> 00:56:30,653 -Ah! Hey. -Hey. 996 00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:32,122 -Ah! -How are you? 997 00:56:32,122 --> 00:56:34,157 -I'm good. -It's so good to see you. 998 00:56:34,157 --> 00:56:35,725 It's good to see you, too. 999 00:56:35,725 --> 00:56:40,530 -How you been? -I'm good. I need you. 1000 00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:44,434 -Come, come, come. -OK, where are we going? 1001 00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:46,736 -Yes, take a look. -Whoa. 1002 00:56:46,736 --> 00:56:48,805 -Take a look. Look at the sign. -Do these open? 1003 00:56:48,805 --> 00:56:51,574 -Yes, it opens up. -Cool. 1004 00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:54,644 -[Mimi] Can you imagine? It's gonna be great. -That's awesome. 1005 00:56:54,644 --> 00:56:57,480 -See? -Oh, my God. 1006 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,585 -See this? Welcome to 348 Quiet. -This is amazing. 1007 00:57:02,585 --> 00:57:04,087 -Yes, you like? -Yes. 1008 00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:06,189 OK, so the dining room is over there. 1009 00:57:06,189 --> 00:57:08,591 -The bar is right there. -Look at all this brick, 1010 00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:12,462 -these rafters. -I know. I'm going rustic. 1011 00:57:12,462 --> 00:57:13,963 -So that was the show kitchen. -Yeah. 1012 00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:16,566 -This is the real kitchen. -Oh, yeah. 1013 00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:18,535 Where the ugly stuff happens. 1014 00:57:18,535 --> 00:57:21,070 Yeah, I figure about four people can fit back here. 1015 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:23,873 This oven was a bitch to get in here. 1016 00:57:23,873 --> 00:57:26,042 It's giant and pretty well worn. 1017 00:57:26,042 --> 00:57:28,778 -Yes, it's yours. -But they did it and it's mine. 1018 00:57:28,778 --> 00:57:31,748 -Can I see your menu? -What menu? 1019 00:57:31,748 --> 00:57:33,583 You don't have one yet? 1020 00:57:36,753 --> 00:57:39,122 You're not impressed. 1021 00:57:39,122 --> 00:57:42,625 Not that I'm not impressed, there's a lot here. 1022 00:57:45,562 --> 00:57:47,697 OK, what do you like? 1023 00:57:49,632 --> 00:57:51,935 -[chuckles] Oh, God... -OK... No, no, no, no. 1024 00:57:51,935 --> 00:57:57,073 I, OK... I've never started a restaurant before. 1025 00:57:57,073 --> 00:57:58,641 But... 1026 00:57:58,641 --> 00:58:00,810 -Right. -There's an arugula salad 1027 00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:04,714 at every motherfucking restaurant on the street. 1028 00:58:04,714 --> 00:58:07,817 -Yeah, OK. -You need two? 1029 00:58:07,817 --> 00:58:09,919 -No... all right. -No, no you don't. 1030 00:58:09,919 --> 00:58:12,522 When you go to a restaurant, what do you want to eat? 1031 00:58:15,191 --> 00:58:17,093 -Comfort food. -Comfort food? 1032 00:58:17,093 --> 00:58:19,028 -Yeah. -OK, what does that mean? 1033 00:58:19,028 --> 00:58:22,765 -You know, lasagna. -OK. 1034 00:58:22,765 --> 00:58:24,767 When do you open? 1035 00:58:25,802 --> 00:58:27,804 Next week. 1036 00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:31,508 Oh, I don't like it when you look at me like that. 1037 00:58:31,508 --> 00:58:34,911 -Next week, Mimi? -Yes, yes, yes... 1038 00:58:34,911 --> 00:58:36,513 Come on. 1039 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,882 -I know, it's bad. -Time's a wasting. 1040 00:58:38,882 --> 00:58:41,584 All right, let's... we're gonna do some menu tests right now. 1041 00:58:41,584 --> 00:58:43,553 -OK. -We have a whole kitchen. 1042 00:58:43,553 --> 00:58:45,655 -Right... Right now? -Right this very instant. 1043 00:58:45,655 --> 00:58:47,056 -Really? -Yep. 1044 00:58:47,056 --> 00:58:49,692 -Tell me what to do. -All right, really? 1045 00:58:49,692 --> 00:58:51,828 We're gonna... OK. All right. 1046 00:58:51,828 --> 00:58:56,065 All right, uh... Let's make pasta. 1047 00:58:56,065 --> 00:58:57,834 -Pasta. -Pasta, yeah. 1048 00:58:57,834 --> 00:58:59,202 -All right, OK. -Tell me what to do, chef. 1049 00:58:59,202 --> 00:59:00,537 It's your kitchen. 1050 00:59:00,537 --> 00:59:01,971 So, we're gonna need flour. 1051 00:59:01,971 --> 00:59:04,741 -Mm-hmm. -Eggs, and some salt. 1052 00:59:04,741 --> 00:59:07,977 -Where can I find-- -The salt is over there in the corner. 1053 00:59:07,977 --> 00:59:10,146 Let's get some cheese. 1054 00:59:10,146 --> 00:59:13,583 -OK, I like this, I like this. -Let's raise the stakes a little. 1055 00:59:13,583 --> 00:59:15,718 I'm gonna call in some taste testers. 1056 00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:19,923 -Help us make some decisions. -I like. 1057 00:59:42,745 --> 00:59:47,150 [woman] To me, it was always very strange that the right to marry 1058 00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:52,589 trumped the urgency of something, like, 1059 00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:55,024 anti-discrimination bills, you know? 1060 00:59:55,024 --> 00:59:58,227 It's still legal to deny a trans person housing. 1061 00:59:58,227 --> 01:00:00,697 It's still legal to fire someone for being trans. 1062 01:00:00,697 --> 01:00:06,336 It's still illegal in some states for LGBT parents to adopt. 1063 01:00:06,336 --> 01:00:09,138 It's so strange to me that there wasn't more urgency 1064 01:00:09,138 --> 01:00:11,708 in taking care of those things before we were, like... 1065 01:00:11,708 --> 01:00:13,042 [tape rewinding] 1066 01:00:13,042 --> 01:00:15,678 [arguing outside] 1067 01:00:33,229 --> 01:00:34,330 [knocking] 1068 01:00:34,330 --> 01:00:36,299 Yeah, yeah. 1069 01:00:37,934 --> 01:00:39,902 I'm sorry I'm late. 1070 01:00:39,902 --> 01:00:42,839 -That's OK. -It's not my fault. 1071 01:00:42,839 --> 01:00:44,674 -It's cool. -Yeah. Thank you. 1072 01:00:44,674 --> 01:00:48,811 -What's going on? -Um, new interview. 1073 01:00:48,811 --> 01:00:52,148 -With the marriage counselor. -Yeah, it was so good. 1074 01:00:52,148 --> 01:00:54,817 -Really? -Yeah, he was so interesting. 1075 01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:56,753 He's kind of, well, you'll see. 1076 01:00:56,753 --> 01:00:58,154 -OK. -Yeah. 1077 01:00:58,154 --> 01:01:02,692 I want to watch and then talk about it, OK? 1078 01:01:02,692 --> 01:01:05,028 [ma...series of divorces and remarriages. 1079 01:01:05,028 --> 01:01:07,163 -Good lighting. -Thank you. 1080 01:01:07,163 --> 01:01:10,166 [man] ...crisis when there is a breakdown in communication. 1081 01:01:10,166 --> 01:01:13,336 If one of the members of the couples is... 1082 01:01:14,804 --> 01:01:17,206 been thinking about getting married, 1083 01:01:17,206 --> 01:01:20,043 and the other one has never been thinking about getting married, 1084 01:01:20,043 --> 01:01:22,745 but it's been a private internal conversation, 1085 01:01:22,745 --> 01:01:25,982 it would be a surprise to the other person and the person who-- 1086 01:01:25,982 --> 01:01:28,818 -[phone vibrating] -Goddamn it. 1087 01:01:28,818 --> 01:01:31,788 -I have to, this is Mark. -OK. 1088 01:01:31,788 --> 01:01:35,091 [Gary] Hi, Mark, thank you for calling me back. 1089 01:01:35,091 --> 01:01:39,395 -Yes. -[man] May have the expectation of the other person. 1090 01:01:40,797 --> 01:01:42,098 All right, OK, so we did 1091 01:01:42,098 --> 01:01:43,800 variations on mac and cheese. 1092 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,737 -Yum. -So, on our way down, we have a take on queso. 1093 01:01:47,737 --> 01:01:51,774 So it's like nacho queso, almost, but applied to mac and cheese. 1094 01:01:51,774 --> 01:01:56,245 Over here, we have a butternut squash mac and cheese. 1095 01:01:56,245 --> 01:01:59,215 -[Sarah] Smells amazing. -Fried sage and thyme. 1096 01:01:59,215 --> 01:02:02,151 And down here we have horse radish, cheddar, with bacon, 1097 01:02:02,151 --> 01:02:06,022 so it's like a Pennsylvania Dutch exploration. 1098 01:02:06,022 --> 01:02:10,893 Don't mind us as we stare at you while you eat. 1099 01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:14,864 Mimi's really looking for this, like, comfort food vibe, 1100 01:02:14,864 --> 01:02:17,200 something that makes you feel warm, you know? 1101 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,303 Come home after a long day, what do you want to eat? 1102 01:02:20,303 --> 01:02:23,072 [Mimi] Only one can go on the menu, all right? 1103 01:02:23,072 --> 01:02:25,441 So which one is it that you like? 1104 01:02:25,441 --> 01:02:28,277 [man] The sage, like, blows me out of the water. 1105 01:02:28,277 --> 01:02:31,047 -[Mimi] Really? -[man 2] I'm a sucker for butternut squash. 1106 01:02:31,047 --> 01:02:33,015 -[Mimi] Really? -[man 2] Soft in the middle. 1107 01:02:33,015 --> 01:02:34,283 It's like the perfect combination of textures. 1108 01:02:34,283 --> 01:02:36,085 [Mimi] You guys. You guys. 1109 01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:40,323 This one right here, she made this, her idea. 1110 01:02:40,323 --> 01:02:43,793 -Thank you so much. -[Mimi] We have a dish. 1111 01:02:43,793 --> 01:02:46,162 -They're applauding you. -[overlapping conversations] 1112 01:02:46,162 --> 01:02:48,231 I'm not bothered by the applause for her, 1113 01:02:48,231 --> 01:02:50,299 I'm not, I'm not, this is good. 1114 01:02:50,299 --> 01:02:52,268 -All right. -[Kristen] The more you say it, the more I believe you. 1115 01:02:52,268 --> 01:02:55,104 [man] Kristen's mac and cheese on the menu, all right? 1116 01:02:55,104 --> 01:02:59,342 All right, let's not get too crazy, guys, OK. 1117 01:03:05,281 --> 01:03:07,550 [Gary] I like this direction. Thank you. 1118 01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:10,953 Mm-hmm. OK. Bye. 1119 01:03:11,988 --> 01:03:14,824 [exhales] You ready? 1120 01:03:14,824 --> 01:03:16,993 Let's get this done. 1121 01:03:22,298 --> 01:03:24,867 Why did you turn it off? 1122 01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:29,238 I think I'm good. 1123 01:03:29,238 --> 01:03:32,275 -You're good, we just got here. -[chuckles] 1124 01:03:32,275 --> 01:03:35,478 I thought we were working on the counselor. 1125 01:03:36,345 --> 01:03:39,482 Yeah, I did it, I think. 1126 01:03:39,482 --> 01:03:44,320 -Without me? -You were busy. 1127 01:03:53,863 --> 01:03:56,032 You're going through a lot right now. 1128 01:03:56,032 --> 01:03:57,600 -[Gary] Say it. -And I get that. 1129 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,869 [Gary] What am I going through? 1130 01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:03,940 -You're getting divorced. -Thank you. 1131 01:04:03,940 --> 01:04:07,176 I think that's the first time you've actually said that. 1132 01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:20,022 That's it, right? You don't need anything else from me today? 1133 01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:22,892 I think you should go home and take care of your stuff. 1134 01:04:32,568 --> 01:04:35,338 You're being a shitty friend. 1135 01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:45,047 It's like you don't want to know what I feel anymore. 1136 01:04:48,251 --> 01:04:50,119 I... 1137 01:04:51,487 --> 01:04:53,890 am losing... 1138 01:04:55,324 --> 01:04:58,628 ...the closest thing I've had to me 1139 01:04:58,628 --> 01:05:05,201 and... I don't know what's gonna happen. 1140 01:05:09,071 --> 01:05:10,606 [Sarah] I'm really sorry. 1141 01:05:10,606 --> 01:05:16,245 But I just feel like every time you come in here, 1142 01:05:16,245 --> 01:05:19,582 I'm picking at a wound if I'm bringing it up. 1143 01:05:19,582 --> 01:05:22,051 You know, I don't want to make it worse, I don't... 1144 01:05:23,352 --> 01:05:26,289 [sighs] I don't know what to do. 1145 01:05:29,492 --> 01:05:32,061 Why don't you fucking embrace it? 1146 01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:37,466 -Like this? -Yes. 1147 01:05:46,342 --> 01:05:51,714 [GarYou're gonna hate me, but I think, more and more, 1148 01:05:51,714 --> 01:05:54,183 this is becoming about you. 1149 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,187 And I think.... 1150 01:06:05,328 --> 01:06:08,064 [laughing] 1151 01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:28,684 [Gary] Sarah's buying tickets. 1152 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:34,290 She doesn't know I have the camera out, but... Oh yeah, here she comes. 1153 01:06:36,058 --> 01:06:39,695 Hey, lady. I got it out, I figured we could just start here. 1154 01:06:39,695 --> 01:06:41,530 All righty, then. 1155 01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:42,999 -[Gary] You got tickets? -I do. 1156 01:06:42,999 --> 01:06:44,400 Cool, where are we going? 1157 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,535 We're gonna go upstate to see my mom. 1158 01:06:46,535 --> 01:06:48,337 -Nice. -Yeah. 1159 01:06:48,337 --> 01:06:51,474 Uh, why are we going to see my mom? 1160 01:06:51,474 --> 01:06:55,544 Well, she's probably gonna feed us. Which is great. 1161 01:06:55,544 --> 01:06:59,015 But we're also gonna ask her some uncomfortable questions 1162 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:01,550 about her marriage and her divorce. 1163 01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:05,721 [Gary] Yeah, let's start with asking you some uncomfortable questions. 1164 01:07:05,721 --> 01:07:07,390 -Oh, great. -[Gary laughs] 1165 01:07:07,390 --> 01:07:09,258 Why am I so afraid of marriage? 1166 01:07:09,258 --> 01:07:12,661 Is it because my parents got divorced? Maybe. 1167 01:07:12,661 --> 01:07:15,631 Am I afraid of ending up like them? Probably. 1168 01:07:15,631 --> 01:07:19,168 So we're gonna go talk to my mom, 1169 01:07:19,168 --> 01:07:21,804 see if maybe she has some answers. 1170 01:07:21,804 --> 01:07:26,542 -Mm-hmm. -Maybe I'll learn something or not. 1171 01:07:26,542 --> 01:07:29,712 [Gary] You could always just give her back the ring and be done with it. 1172 01:07:29,712 --> 01:07:33,482 [laughing] Maybe, no, seriously, maybe it's like got bad juju on it 1173 01:07:33,482 --> 01:07:35,785 and we should just toss it back to her. 1174 01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:41,090 -The basement. -Got to put a ring on that finger, huh? 1175 01:07:41,090 --> 01:07:42,425 I don't know. 1176 01:07:42,425 --> 01:07:44,460 Well, you've been in love for a while, right? 1177 01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:48,631 -Would you say you're in love? -Yes, of course, I'm in love. 1178 01:07:49,665 --> 01:07:51,434 [Gary] Will you say that again? 1179 01:07:51,434 --> 01:07:52,768 [laughing] 1180 01:07:52,768 --> 01:07:55,304 I am in love with Kristen Jennings. 1181 01:07:55,304 --> 01:07:57,440 [Gary] Yes, that's how I want to hear it. 1182 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,575 And she wants me to marry her. 1183 01:08:00,443 --> 01:08:02,078 -Hm... -So... 1184 01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:05,181 -So? -I have to figure it out. 1185 01:08:06,515 --> 01:08:09,652 [muffled music playing] 1186 01:08:25,835 --> 01:08:28,604 -Hi there. -Hi. 1187 01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:36,145 What's going on? 1188 01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:44,820 I want to be a chef. 1189 01:08:47,156 --> 01:08:50,226 -OK. -Um, so... 1190 01:08:50,226 --> 01:08:54,230 The other night at Mimi's, um, I, 1191 01:08:54,230 --> 01:08:58,701 when we were working, got into a rhythm 1192 01:08:58,701 --> 01:09:02,371 and then the next day I talked to her about it 1193 01:09:02,371 --> 01:09:05,274 and I was like, felt like I made some big choices 1194 01:09:05,274 --> 01:09:08,177 and I was able to keep up, you know? 1195 01:09:08,177 --> 01:09:11,814 She was saying that, you know, 1196 01:09:11,814 --> 01:09:13,549 it's her restaurant, she can do what she wants, 1197 01:09:13,549 --> 01:09:16,218 but she can make room for me on the line, 1198 01:09:16,218 --> 01:09:19,155 and, you know, just because I'm really green 1199 01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:20,556 and she could get my skills up to snuff, 1200 01:09:20,556 --> 01:09:23,792 and I know how to do basic stuff. 1201 01:09:23,792 --> 01:09:26,462 I... my bouschenel is better than hers, trust me. 1202 01:09:26,462 --> 01:09:29,765 But, you know, like get me there, 1203 01:09:29,765 --> 01:09:32,935 and then there'd be room for me to move up 1204 01:09:32,935 --> 01:09:37,806 and she said I could possibly start on Wednesday. 1205 01:09:37,806 --> 01:09:39,808 -Next Wednesday. -Next Wednesday. 1206 01:09:39,808 --> 01:09:41,443 I was scared to tell you. 1207 01:09:41,443 --> 01:09:43,345 -Why? -I don't know. 1208 01:09:43,345 --> 01:09:47,850 It was just a lot, I needed it to be like tied up. 1209 01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:49,818 -OK. -Before I did. 1210 01:09:49,818 --> 01:09:52,788 You know I don't need things to be tied up, right? 1211 01:09:52,788 --> 01:09:54,723 I know. 1212 01:09:54,723 --> 01:09:57,259 -But... -This is what you want to do? 1213 01:09:57,259 --> 01:10:00,462 -Feedback. -This is what you want to do? 1214 01:10:00,462 --> 01:10:04,333 -I mean, yeah. -Yeah? 1215 01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:09,638 I... it's been a rough month. 1216 01:10:10,639 --> 01:10:12,308 -And-- -It's OK. 1217 01:10:12,308 --> 01:10:14,577 It's not. 1218 01:10:14,577 --> 01:10:19,381 But... I was really happy. 1219 01:10:19,381 --> 01:10:21,417 And I felt like I was making something. 1220 01:10:21,417 --> 01:10:24,353 I was working towards something that I cared about. 1221 01:10:24,353 --> 01:10:27,323 It was one night and I was already was... 1222 01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:32,628 -I really want to try. -Yeah. 1223 01:10:32,628 --> 01:10:34,897 [maTo a certain degree, it's about growth, 1224 01:10:34,897 --> 01:10:36,832 it's about understanding that each of you will grow 1225 01:10:36,832 --> 01:10:38,601 on your own paths, 1226 01:10:38,601 --> 01:10:41,003 and if you allow yourselves to grow on your own paths, 1227 01:10:41,003 --> 01:10:42,905 you can grow together. 1228 01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:44,440 It's not about making sure 1229 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:47,476 you grow at the same level or speed that I do. 1230 01:10:47,476 --> 01:10:52,281 Um, and I think that's a big part of what has kept us in our relationship, 1231 01:10:52,281 --> 01:10:54,750 is we're different people than we were 15 years ago. 1232 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:57,286 -[tape rewinding] -[Sarah] I want to go back, quickly, 1233 01:10:57,286 --> 01:11:01,790 to your ideas of marriage when you were growing up. 1234 01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:05,961 When I was a kid, 1235 01:11:05,961 --> 01:11:09,431 I never imagined myself being married, actually. 1236 01:11:09,431 --> 01:11:15,304 I had lots of fantasies about the careers that I would have. 1237 01:11:15,304 --> 01:11:20,042 And never imagined myself with a family. 1238 01:11:20,042 --> 01:11:23,379 [Sarah] So what changed for you? 1239 01:11:24,346 --> 01:11:26,915 I met John. 1240 01:11:26,915 --> 01:11:29,351 We were in love. 1241 01:11:29,351 --> 01:11:34,957 It was fast and furious and consuming. 1242 01:11:34,957 --> 01:11:39,395 You know, I got pregnant, and we were really caught up 1243 01:11:39,395 --> 01:11:43,966 in the magic of what we could be together. 1244 01:11:43,966 --> 01:11:48,037 -Yes, more please. -No, it's too big. 1245 01:11:48,037 --> 01:11:50,372 -I want to see it. -They ordered the whole, 1246 01:11:50,372 --> 01:11:52,474 they ordered the wrong size. 1247 01:11:52,474 --> 01:11:54,777 -What? -Like... 1248 01:11:54,777 --> 01:11:56,378 Let me see. 1249 01:11:57,046 --> 01:11:59,748 [laughing] 1250 01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:04,787 Why are you making that face? 1251 01:12:04,787 --> 01:12:07,523 I can't do this, what am I doing? 1252 01:12:07,523 --> 01:12:11,060 Yes, you can. Come here. 1253 01:12:11,927 --> 01:12:14,396 It's not so bad. 1254 01:12:14,396 --> 01:12:17,333 -It's a little silly. -Yeah, you think? 1255 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:21,970 But no one is gonna care once you're lighting things on fire. 1256 01:12:21,970 --> 01:12:27,409 You know that I'll be committed for arson. 1257 01:12:27,409 --> 01:12:30,512 You know what I mean. 1258 01:12:30,512 --> 01:12:36,985 So, I know that you got married for love and passion 1259 01:12:36,985 --> 01:12:43,359 and all those reasons, but I never saw any of that. 1260 01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:50,132 All I remember, really, was fighting and then distance. 1261 01:12:50,132 --> 01:12:54,036 What were the fights about? 1262 01:12:54,036 --> 01:12:57,940 The fights were about him 1263 01:12:57,940 --> 01:13:00,709 not doing what I thought we'd agreed on. 1264 01:13:00,709 --> 01:13:04,980 -The deal that we had made, um... -What was the deal? 1265 01:13:05,948 --> 01:13:08,150 He was gonna pursue music. 1266 01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:13,489 He wanted to be a musician and I was gonna 1267 01:13:13,489 --> 01:13:15,791 support the family so he could do that. 1268 01:13:15,791 --> 01:13:20,529 And I would come home and he hadn't really done anything. 1269 01:13:20,529 --> 01:13:24,466 And maybe he was working it on his own time, 1270 01:13:24,466 --> 01:13:28,637 but I think that kind of uncovered for us 1271 01:13:28,637 --> 01:13:31,607 some aspects in one another that we didn't know 1272 01:13:31,607 --> 01:13:36,745 and we started to grow apart. 1273 01:13:36,745 --> 01:13:39,014 You're being very diplomatic. 1274 01:13:40,816 --> 01:13:42,184 [woman scoffs] 1275 01:13:42,184 --> 01:13:44,453 Um... what do you want me to say, 1276 01:13:44,453 --> 01:13:46,989 that we, like, we hated each other 1277 01:13:46,989 --> 01:13:50,025 and wanted to hurt each other, it wasn't like that. 1278 01:13:50,025 --> 01:13:51,927 You can talk about it in retrospect, sure, 1279 01:13:51,927 --> 01:13:55,030 there's distance, but at the time, what did it feel like? 1280 01:13:55,030 --> 01:14:01,069 It felt like all of a sudden I didn't fully know this person 1281 01:14:01,069 --> 01:14:07,576 and realized that possibly 1282 01:14:07,576 --> 01:14:11,914 he wasn't my partner for life. 1283 01:14:11,914 --> 01:14:15,584 I had great respect for him in many ways, 1284 01:14:15,584 --> 01:14:18,454 but the more I knew of him, the less I could 1285 01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:22,024 see myself with him for my whole life. 1286 01:14:22,024 --> 01:14:26,061 -Do you regret marrying John? -Absolutely not. 1287 01:14:26,061 --> 01:14:32,034 It was a step in my life that contributes to who I am. 1288 01:14:32,034 --> 01:14:34,503 And what I know about myself. 1289 01:14:34,503 --> 01:14:39,107 And I don't think I would have learned some of those things any other way. 1290 01:14:39,107 --> 01:14:42,044 He was who he was. 1291 01:14:42,044 --> 01:14:46,548 And I reacted to that 1292 01:14:46,548 --> 01:14:50,886 in good ways and in bad ways, and that's part of the fabric of who I am. 1293 01:14:50,886 --> 01:14:53,622 And those years are important to me. 1294 01:14:53,622 --> 01:14:58,560 You've always talked about John as the guy that walked away. 1295 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,931 Did you... how could you reconcile that? 1296 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,502 He... 1297 01:15:06,502 --> 01:15:13,075 I see him as having walked away from you... 1298 01:15:13,075 --> 01:15:16,712 more than me. 1299 01:15:16,712 --> 01:15:21,783 He and I decided that we couldn't stay married, 1300 01:15:21,783 --> 01:15:24,052 that it wasn't right for either of us. 1301 01:15:24,052 --> 01:15:29,558 I never told him to disappear from our lives. 1302 01:15:29,558 --> 01:15:33,161 And I don't forgive him 1303 01:15:33,161 --> 01:15:37,232 for disappearing from your life. 1304 01:15:39,801 --> 01:15:44,873 I was hurt for you about that. 1305 01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:49,745 [slow tempo music playing] 1306 01:15:49,745 --> 01:15:52,114 [lyric indistinct] 1307 01:15:55,817 --> 01:15:58,887 [man] I want your stomachs tight, engaged. 1308 01:15:58,887 --> 01:16:01,657 Chest up, grab that red knob and turn it up. 1309 01:16:01,657 --> 01:16:03,926 Make it a little bit harder for you, a little bit more fun. 1310 01:16:03,926 --> 01:16:07,796 So the supplier just had, like, a crazy cherry crop, 1311 01:16:07,796 --> 01:16:11,600 I guess, but sent us so many extra cherries last week, 1312 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,003 and so we started pickling them all. 1313 01:16:15,003 --> 01:16:17,573 And we did kimchi sour cherries. 1314 01:16:17,573 --> 01:16:18,907 -What? -Right? 1315 01:16:18,907 --> 01:16:21,076 It sounds insane, but it was so good. 1316 01:16:21,076 --> 01:16:24,246 And Damon like tossed them into the ferro salad yesterday. 1317 01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:27,583 Oh, my God, it has to go on the menu. 1318 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:30,686 Christina lost her mind about it. 1319 01:16:30,686 --> 01:16:33,188 I really want to meet all these people. 1320 01:16:33,188 --> 01:16:35,757 Yeah, Damon, I don't know, he has really good ideas. 1321 01:16:35,757 --> 01:16:38,026 I'm into it. You should come. 1322 01:16:38,026 --> 01:16:42,130 It's been crazy since the review, but we can always make room for you, girl. 1323 01:16:42,130 --> 01:16:44,600 -Oh, thanks. -You got it. 1324 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,368 I'm gonna go buy more classes, because we're out. 1325 01:16:46,368 --> 01:16:51,139 OK, thanks. Is it possible to not do a nine AM package? 1326 01:16:51,139 --> 01:16:54,743 Um... I think the next one is at 12, 1327 01:16:54,743 --> 01:16:56,878 which is too late for you, right? 1328 01:16:56,878 --> 01:16:59,381 Nine AM so early. 1329 01:16:59,381 --> 01:17:04,686 I know, but then we can go have breakfast and see each other. 1330 01:17:04,686 --> 01:17:06,355 -See each other, huh? -Mm-hmm. 1331 01:17:06,355 --> 01:17:09,024 -OK. -I'll be back. 1332 01:17:13,695 --> 01:17:19,768 [Gary] Hold on just a second. All right. Rolling. 1333 01:17:19,768 --> 01:17:21,303 Talk to me, girl. 1334 01:17:21,303 --> 01:17:22,904 Where are you going? 1335 01:17:22,904 --> 01:17:27,676 Uh, we're going to my dad's house. 1336 01:17:27,676 --> 01:17:29,978 [Gary] Your dad's house, huh? 1337 01:17:29,978 --> 01:17:32,681 When was the last time you saw your dad? 1338 01:17:32,681 --> 01:17:38,387 Mm, like, 10 years ago. 1339 01:17:38,387 --> 01:17:40,756 [Gary] Damn. That's a long time. 1340 01:17:40,756 --> 01:17:42,224 [car honking] 1341 01:17:42,224 --> 01:17:45,761 Jesus Christ, Gary, do we have to do this right now? 1342 01:17:45,761 --> 01:17:47,262 Just get this shit out of my.... 1343 01:17:47,262 --> 01:17:49,398 [Gary] We're going the right road. 1344 01:17:49,398 --> 01:17:51,233 Calm the fuck down. 1345 01:17:52,334 --> 01:17:56,772 -Are you nervous? -Maybe. 1346 01:18:00,909 --> 01:18:03,111 I need my soup, Jared, where's my soup? 1347 01:18:03,111 --> 01:18:04,946 -Yes, chef. -Two, two soups. 1348 01:18:04,946 --> 01:18:06,982 [Jared] Two soups. Should I start in on the salmon? 1349 01:18:06,982 --> 01:18:09,151 No, no, no, then we need three asparagus, 1350 01:18:09,151 --> 01:18:12,087 one suanee... two for suanee, please. 1351 01:18:12,087 --> 01:18:13,822 -[Jared] Got it. -I need that pan 1352 01:18:13,822 --> 01:18:15,791 screened and hot before you put it in, OK? 1353 01:18:15,791 --> 01:18:17,893 -Gotcha. -We're gonna finish with the green garlic. 1354 01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:20,028 -Green garlic today. -[Mimi] It's crazy out there. 1355 01:18:20,028 --> 01:18:21,830 -Yes it is, chef. -How's it going? 1356 01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:23,865 -Going great, thank you. -[indistinct] 1357 01:18:23,865 --> 01:18:25,333 -Wonderful. -How's the soup? 1358 01:18:25,333 --> 01:18:26,702 Soup's great, would you like a taste? 1359 01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,170 -Yes. -Great, behind you. 1360 01:18:28,170 --> 01:18:29,271 Behind. 1361 01:18:29,271 --> 01:18:31,273 Behind. Here. 1362 01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:36,311 OK. A little cinnamon, a little nutmeg. 1363 01:18:36,311 --> 01:18:37,979 -Cinnamon. Nutmeg, yes, chef. -Behind. 1364 01:18:37,979 --> 01:18:39,347 Behind Toss that for me, please. 1365 01:18:39,347 --> 01:18:40,949 -Gotcha, chef. -And then Jared, 1366 01:18:40,949 --> 01:18:43,452 I need a burger, rare, kortato, please. 1367 01:18:43,452 --> 01:18:47,756 -Got it. No queso. -No queso. No queso. 1368 01:18:48,857 --> 01:18:50,826 [Gary] He lives here alone? 1369 01:18:50,826 --> 01:18:52,227 [Sarah] Mm-hmm. 1370 01:18:52,227 --> 01:18:55,063 -Here we are. -Here we are. 1371 01:18:56,064 --> 01:18:59,267 -Um... -Shall we go? 1372 01:18:59,267 --> 01:19:02,003 Is it OK if I go first? 1373 01:19:02,003 --> 01:19:03,905 Oh, you don't want me to come in right now? 1374 01:19:03,905 --> 01:19:06,341 I want you, I need you there, but not right now. 1375 01:19:06,341 --> 01:19:08,043 Yeah, yeah, yeah, take your time 1376 01:19:08,043 --> 01:19:11,346 -and I'll just chill here. -OK. 1377 01:19:14,382 --> 01:19:17,452 [Gary] Oh, my God, she's a wreck. 1378 01:19:24,459 --> 01:19:28,029 This is Sarah meeting her dad for the first time in 10 years, 1379 01:19:28,029 --> 01:19:31,299 and she looks like she's gonna shit her pants. 1380 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,971 [guitar strumming] 1381 01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:46,815 [Gary] He's home, OK, here we go. 1382 01:19:48,083 --> 01:19:50,085 [indistinct conversation] 1383 01:19:50,085 --> 01:19:52,888 [Gary] Damn, Daddy, you're tall. 1384 01:19:55,857 --> 01:19:57,793 What's wrong? 1385 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,462 Oh, no. 1386 01:20:03,131 --> 01:20:07,068 All right. This is gonna be good. 1387 01:20:09,037 --> 01:20:13,341 Oh. Oh, God. 1388 01:20:16,144 --> 01:20:20,115 This is cool. So... 1389 01:20:20,115 --> 01:20:22,117 We'll bring in equipment and set up. 1390 01:20:22,117 --> 01:20:24,186 -Shouldn't take very long. -OK, OK, good. 1391 01:20:24,186 --> 01:20:25,554 OK. 1392 01:20:26,454 --> 01:20:28,290 -Good. -OK. 1393 01:20:32,394 --> 01:20:36,398 [Gary] Oh, God, what's wrong, Sarah? 1394 01:20:36,398 --> 01:20:38,233 Oh, my God, fuck. 1395 01:20:39,968 --> 01:20:41,436 [Jared] I'm glad it's so easy to make, too. 1396 01:20:41,436 --> 01:20:43,605 -[laughing] -Sixty covers in two hours, 1397 01:20:43,605 --> 01:20:45,273 is that some sort of record for you? 1398 01:20:45,273 --> 01:20:46,575 For me? 1399 01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:49,010 Yes, but, you know what, we got through it. 1400 01:20:49,010 --> 01:20:51,112 Yeah, thanks for leading me through the weeds. 1401 01:20:51,112 --> 01:20:52,514 Any time, baby. 1402 01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:54,416 And the special, it's damn good. 1403 01:20:54,416 --> 01:20:56,551 You liked it? I think hazelnuts and capers, 1404 01:20:56,551 --> 01:20:58,386 they have to be together. 1405 01:20:58,386 --> 01:21:00,856 -There's something about it... -Right? 1406 01:21:00,856 --> 01:21:02,624 -[Jared] Hey, I'm gonna grab a smoke. -Yeah. I'll meet you out there. 1407 01:21:02,624 --> 01:21:04,125 [Jared] How you doing, chef? 1408 01:21:04,125 --> 01:21:06,261 -Hey, Jared. -[Kristen] Hi, chef. 1409 01:21:06,261 --> 01:21:07,529 -Hello. -How are you? 1410 01:21:07,529 --> 01:21:09,231 -I'm good. -Yeah? 1411 01:21:09,231 --> 01:21:11,333 -Nice job tonight. -Thank you. 1412 01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:13,401 -Very good. -Appreciate it. 1413 01:21:13,401 --> 01:21:15,937 I'm proud of you, look at you. 1414 01:21:15,937 --> 01:21:20,208 -Thank you. -Look at you, you're, like, bad ass sous chef 1415 01:21:20,208 --> 01:21:23,345 -in three months. -Bad ass? All right, I'll take it. 1416 01:21:23,345 --> 01:21:25,580 Yeah, yes, I'm really proud of you. 1417 01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:27,449 -Thank you. -Thank you. 1418 01:21:27,449 --> 01:21:29,084 Couldn't have done it without you. 1419 01:21:29,084 --> 01:21:31,086 I thought about a vacation last night. 1420 01:21:31,086 --> 01:21:32,454 -I said-- -You earned one. 1421 01:21:32,454 --> 01:21:36,091 If I go on vacation, I would trust you. 1422 01:21:36,091 --> 01:21:37,893 To just run the place. 1423 01:21:37,893 --> 01:21:39,494 -Thank you, chef. -If I go on vacation. 1424 01:21:39,494 --> 01:21:41,563 If you go on... and that's a big if, but... 1425 01:21:41,563 --> 01:21:44,032 -Yeah, yeah. -Thank you. 1426 01:21:44,032 --> 01:21:45,634 But thank you. You're doing awesome. 1427 01:21:45,634 --> 01:21:48,136 -Appreciate it. -You're great, you're awesome. 1428 01:21:48,136 --> 01:21:50,205 Superstar! 1429 01:21:53,275 --> 01:21:56,378 All right, so I'm just gonna clip this to your shirt, if that's OK. 1430 01:21:56,378 --> 01:21:57,946 -OK. -You comfortable? 1431 01:21:57,946 --> 01:21:59,147 Yeah, yeah. 1432 01:21:59,648 --> 01:22:01,016 It's OK. 1433 01:22:01,016 --> 01:22:03,451 Um, so I'll just ask questions, 1434 01:22:03,451 --> 01:22:06,187 but if you could use the question in your answer, 1435 01:22:06,187 --> 01:22:08,423 so if I'm like, "John, what color is your shirt?" 1436 01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:10,959 -You say, "My shirt is gray." -My shirt is... 1437 01:22:10,959 --> 01:22:13,361 -Rather than just, gray. -Gray. 1438 01:22:15,363 --> 01:22:19,334 -OK. -OK, you good? 1439 01:22:19,334 --> 01:22:21,036 -[clears throat] -[Sarah] Cool. 1440 01:22:21,036 --> 01:22:23,338 -Do I look at you? -[Sarah] You look at me, yeah. 1441 01:22:23,338 --> 01:22:26,141 -OK. -[Sarah] Um, so, hi. 1442 01:22:26,141 --> 01:22:28,710 -Hi. -[Sarah] John, um... 1443 01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:32,280 Why did you decide to get married? 1444 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:37,352 I decided to get married because we fell in love. 1445 01:22:37,352 --> 01:22:40,689 OK. And how long were you married? 1446 01:22:40,689 --> 01:22:43,658 -[John] Three years. -What happened? 1447 01:22:43,658 --> 01:22:49,531 Uh, well, what happened was we, you know, 1448 01:22:49,531 --> 01:22:51,666 sort of grew apart a little bit. 1449 01:22:51,666 --> 01:22:53,735 What were you learning about each other 1450 01:22:53,735 --> 01:22:55,337 that made you grow apart? 1451 01:22:55,337 --> 01:22:58,673 Well, the big thing was my interest in music 1452 01:22:58,673 --> 01:23:03,478 kind of increased and I wanted to, you know, 1453 01:23:03,478 --> 01:23:07,649 really do that for my career and that was hard. 1454 01:23:07,649 --> 01:23:10,385 [Sarah] Did music make you happy? 1455 01:23:10,385 --> 01:23:12,220 Yeah, it really did. 1456 01:23:12,220 --> 01:23:14,422 And I was a little obsessed with it. 1457 01:23:14,422 --> 01:23:16,257 And I wasn't, you know, to be fair to her, 1458 01:23:16,257 --> 01:23:20,195 I wasn't when we first, you know, knew each other. 1459 01:23:20,195 --> 01:23:24,466 It was, it just became a stronger drive. 1460 01:23:24,466 --> 01:23:29,070 [Sarah] Do you feel like your interest in music 1461 01:23:29,070 --> 01:23:31,406 and your obsession, as you called it, 1462 01:23:31,406 --> 01:23:35,744 -did that draw you away from her? -Yeah. 1463 01:23:35,744 --> 01:23:37,579 Could you use the question for me? 1464 01:23:37,579 --> 01:23:42,050 Yeah, my obsession with music drew me away from her. 1465 01:23:42,050 --> 01:23:43,685 I wouldn't call it an obsession, 1466 01:23:43,685 --> 01:23:45,520 I think she called it one, but I mean, 1467 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,355 looking back, you know, it was just driving me 1468 01:23:47,355 --> 01:23:51,159 and I think if she had been supportive of it, 1469 01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:52,494 it would have been different. 1470 01:23:52,494 --> 01:23:54,062 [clattering] 1471 01:23:54,062 --> 01:23:55,597 Fuck. 1472 01:23:56,765 --> 01:23:59,534 -Sorry, sorry. -It's OK. 1473 01:24:02,771 --> 01:24:04,606 -Hi. -Hi. 1474 01:24:12,047 --> 01:24:14,049 How was your day? 1475 01:24:14,049 --> 01:24:19,554 Good, long. How was your day? 1476 01:24:21,089 --> 01:24:23,291 Which one? 1477 01:24:33,668 --> 01:24:37,072 You smell like cigarettes. 1478 01:24:39,574 --> 01:24:44,712 That's all in your imagination. 1479 01:24:47,348 --> 01:24:50,652 Just don't stay up too late, OK? 1480 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,123 I have to go to class. 1481 01:24:55,123 --> 01:24:57,358 Okie dokie. 1482 01:25:03,298 --> 01:25:04,833 [upbeat techno music] 1483 01:25:04,833 --> 01:25:07,435 [man] Fight for it! Fight for it! Fight for it! 1484 01:25:13,241 --> 01:25:14,576 Seven. 1485 01:25:14,576 --> 01:25:16,277 Six. 1486 01:25:16,711 --> 01:25:18,413 Five. 1487 01:25:22,684 --> 01:25:24,285 So... 1488 01:25:25,453 --> 01:25:28,857 You got... You got divorced. 1489 01:25:28,857 --> 01:25:30,725 You both agreed on it. 1490 01:25:35,563 --> 01:25:38,800 Was it hard for you to leave? 1491 01:25:39,801 --> 01:25:42,137 [laughs] No. 1492 01:25:42,137 --> 01:25:44,305 It was oddly not. 1493 01:25:44,305 --> 01:25:45,573 I think we were both, you know-- 1494 01:25:45,573 --> 01:25:47,342 -What wasn't hard? -To leave. 1495 01:25:47,342 --> 01:25:48,743 It wasn't that hard to leave 1496 01:25:48,743 --> 01:25:51,813 because I think we were both like... [exhales] 1497 01:25:51,813 --> 01:25:56,918 And then I know I felt a release and a relief. 1498 01:25:56,918 --> 01:25:59,487 [Sarah] Was it hard to leave your kid? 1499 01:26:01,156 --> 01:26:02,924 Yeah. 1500 01:26:02,924 --> 01:26:04,425 Could you repeat that for me? 1501 01:26:04,425 --> 01:26:06,928 [John] Yeah, it was hard to leave you. 1502 01:26:13,768 --> 01:26:15,870 What was hard about it? 1503 01:26:17,705 --> 01:26:18,940 [John] Um... 1504 01:26:19,807 --> 01:26:21,943 This feels awkward. 1505 01:26:29,417 --> 01:26:31,953 -You OK? -Yeah. 1506 01:26:33,588 --> 01:26:35,623 -Can we keep going? -Yeah. 1507 01:26:35,623 --> 01:26:36,858 -Are you sure? -Yeah, yeah. 1508 01:26:36,858 --> 01:26:40,228 -No, I'm fine. -OK. 1509 01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:44,699 Sorry this is intense. 1510 01:26:44,699 --> 01:26:48,269 It's OK. It's OK, it's my fault. 1511 01:26:49,470 --> 01:26:50,805 Sarah, can you check his mic, 1512 01:26:50,805 --> 01:26:53,341 -I'm getting a rustle. -Yeah. 1513 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,245 Just put this down a little bit. 1514 01:26:57,245 --> 01:27:01,249 I just want you to know that you were... 1515 01:27:02,617 --> 01:27:04,385 Yeah... 1516 01:27:07,522 --> 01:27:10,758 -It's OK. -No, it was just hard to... 1517 01:27:12,327 --> 01:27:14,929 to leave because of you and so... 1518 01:27:14,929 --> 01:27:17,232 [Gary] I think that should be good, yeah. 1519 01:27:17,232 --> 01:27:20,268 -It sounds better. -Are you OK? 1520 01:27:20,268 --> 01:27:21,336 -[John] Yeah. -Keep going? 1521 01:27:21,336 --> 01:27:23,671 -Yeah, yeah. -OK. 1522 01:27:23,671 --> 01:27:27,375 -Uh, it sounds good, Gary? -Yeah, perfect. 1523 01:27:37,685 --> 01:27:43,358 OK, so you... you got to know each other 1524 01:27:43,358 --> 01:27:45,026 and that meant that... 1525 01:27:46,728 --> 01:27:50,365 you weren't necessarily right for one another. 1526 01:27:50,365 --> 01:27:52,767 What kind of things did you learn about yourself, 1527 01:27:52,767 --> 01:27:58,273 or did you learn about her, that made the relationship break apart? 1528 01:27:58,273 --> 01:28:00,508 -Beat my high score. -You did? 1529 01:28:00,508 --> 01:28:02,610 -Yes. -I'm so proud. 1530 01:28:02,610 --> 01:28:05,947 And... they were doing two-for-one special, 1531 01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:08,549 so I got us ten more classes. 1532 01:28:08,549 --> 01:28:12,754 -[yawns] Oh, no. -Oh, no? 1533 01:28:14,455 --> 01:28:17,525 -Hey, Sarah. -Yes. 1534 01:28:17,525 --> 01:28:21,062 -I can't do a nine AM class. -What? 1535 01:28:22,397 --> 01:28:25,767 -Why? -I get home too late. 1536 01:28:25,767 --> 01:28:27,935 I'm home at like 4:30 1537 01:28:27,935 --> 01:28:29,671 and I don't fall asleep 'til five. 1538 01:28:29,671 --> 01:28:33,508 I can't wake up at eight to spin. 1539 01:28:33,508 --> 01:28:37,378 But you don't like any of the other classes. 1540 01:28:40,315 --> 01:28:42,984 Does Raven teach any other time? 1541 01:28:42,984 --> 01:28:44,886 Mm-mm. 1542 01:28:44,886 --> 01:28:48,790 Only like weekdays in the middle of the day. 1543 01:28:49,957 --> 01:28:52,694 I liked having a thing with you. 1544 01:28:54,362 --> 01:28:56,097 Sorry, girl. 1545 01:28:57,899 --> 01:28:59,834 So no more? 1546 01:29:05,506 --> 01:29:06,708 Hi. 1547 01:29:06,708 --> 01:29:08,843 -Would you take this? -Mm-hmm. 1548 01:29:08,843 --> 01:29:11,012 Thank you. 1549 01:29:19,354 --> 01:29:22,090 Why are you doing this? 1550 01:29:22,090 --> 01:29:24,726 -What the documentary? -Yeah. 1551 01:29:25,526 --> 01:29:27,495 Um... 1552 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,604 -Remember that? -Yes, oh, my God. 1553 01:29:36,604 --> 01:29:40,007 -Where'd you find this? -Mom's house. 1554 01:29:40,007 --> 01:29:47,014 So, that brought up this whole marriage thing with Kristen. 1555 01:29:48,516 --> 01:29:50,051 Yeah... 1556 01:29:51,052 --> 01:29:53,521 She really wants to get married. 1557 01:29:55,656 --> 01:29:57,458 And how do you feel? 1558 01:30:06,601 --> 01:30:10,505 I really want her to be happy. 1559 01:30:13,541 --> 01:30:15,943 And I love her so much. 1560 01:30:19,447 --> 01:30:20,782 But... 1561 01:30:26,821 --> 01:30:28,856 I don't know, what if...? 1562 01:30:30,491 --> 01:30:32,794 What if I screw it up? 1563 01:30:32,794 --> 01:30:36,464 I think it's really good that we came here. 1564 01:30:36,464 --> 01:30:42,503 Waiting for Sarah to finish talking with John. 1565 01:30:42,503 --> 01:30:44,539 I think we got what we needed. 1566 01:30:45,773 --> 01:30:48,543 We'll see if she's happy but... 1567 01:30:48,543 --> 01:30:50,511 I'm gonna ask her... 1568 01:30:52,814 --> 01:30:55,149 if she's found... 1569 01:30:56,451 --> 01:30:58,653 a conclusion. Oh. 1570 01:30:58,653 --> 01:31:00,788 [John] I'm really glad I got married. 1571 01:31:00,788 --> 01:31:03,191 -Really? -Yes. 1572 01:31:05,193 --> 01:31:08,830 We were very much in love, and things changed later, 1573 01:31:08,830 --> 01:31:14,602 but for, you know, it was good... while it lasted, as they say. 1574 01:31:14,602 --> 01:31:16,604 You came. 1575 01:31:18,506 --> 01:31:20,942 -Would you do it again? -Yes. 1576 01:31:22,844 --> 01:31:25,646 -Can I keep it? -Yes. 1577 01:31:25,646 --> 01:31:27,215 Thank you. 1578 01:31:31,619 --> 01:31:34,222 [sighing] 1579 01:31:34,222 --> 01:31:35,223 I should probably go help Gary. 1580 01:31:35,223 --> 01:31:36,924 OK. 1581 01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:42,196 -It was nice to see you. -Good to see you, too. 1582 01:31:43,564 --> 01:31:47,802 -I'll see ya? -Yeah. Yeah. 1583 01:31:49,537 --> 01:31:51,005 OK. 1584 01:31:53,241 --> 01:31:55,076 -Bye. -Bye. 1585 01:32:00,948 --> 01:32:03,184 -Hello? Hey. -[Mimi] Hey. 1586 01:32:03,184 --> 01:32:05,887 Hey, the investors came through. 1587 01:32:05,887 --> 01:32:09,524 I got the money. I'm opening in Seattle. 1588 01:32:09,524 --> 01:32:11,926 -That's awesome, that's great, congrats. -Yes! Yes! 1589 01:32:11,926 --> 01:32:16,130 OK, all right, so. I need you to go to Seattle. 1590 01:32:16,130 --> 01:32:19,100 -To do what? -It's yours. 1591 01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,602 The menu. The hiring. 1592 01:32:21,602 --> 01:32:25,106 I want you to be the head chef. 1593 01:32:25,106 --> 01:32:26,908 -What? -OK, listen. 1594 01:32:26,908 --> 01:32:28,876 I know it's big, all right? 1595 01:32:28,876 --> 01:32:32,146 But I was thinking about this, you understand me, 1596 01:32:32,146 --> 01:32:34,582 you get what I'm trying to do, I need you to go. 1597 01:32:34,582 --> 01:32:36,183 Oh, my God, I thought you were joking. 1598 01:32:36,183 --> 01:32:38,319 No, no, I'm not gonna joke about that. 1599 01:32:38,319 --> 01:32:41,155 Mimi, I don't know how to do that. 1600 01:32:41,155 --> 01:32:43,157 I know you can do this. 1601 01:32:43,157 --> 01:32:46,694 -Oh, my God. -It's farm to table, you pick up the menu... 1602 01:32:46,694 --> 01:32:47,995 [Kristen] It would be my restaurant. 1603 01:32:47,995 --> 01:32:49,230 I would have, it's like tiny, 1604 01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:50,631 it's like 15 seats, 1605 01:32:50,631 --> 01:32:52,833 but I would design my own menu 1606 01:32:52,833 --> 01:32:54,035 and there's actually a budget. 1607 01:32:54,035 --> 01:32:55,636 I could have a wine cellar 1608 01:32:55,636 --> 01:32:58,072 and I could train all my own staff 1609 01:32:58,072 --> 01:33:01,208 -and pick everything and-- -OK, wait, wait, wait. 1610 01:33:01,208 --> 01:33:04,011 Could you just... Go back a little bit. 1611 01:33:04,011 --> 01:33:06,047 Mimi's opening another restaurant? 1612 01:33:06,047 --> 01:33:08,182 Yeah, it was sort of up in the air, 1613 01:33:08,182 --> 01:33:09,784 we didn't know if funding would come through, 1614 01:33:09,784 --> 01:33:11,953 but she got it, and it's in Seattle. 1615 01:33:11,953 --> 01:33:14,188 They really want her to expand to the west coast, 1616 01:33:14,188 --> 01:33:17,191 and... but she has to be here, so... 1617 01:33:17,191 --> 01:33:20,328 -In Seattle. -In Seattle. 1618 01:33:21,929 --> 01:33:24,231 I mean... 1619 01:33:24,231 --> 01:33:28,202 Want to... Want to come on an adventure with me? 1620 01:33:30,271 --> 01:33:35,776 Coffee, fog, grunge. 1621 01:33:35,776 --> 01:33:41,916 -You're like there already. -I mean, I want to talk with you about it, 1622 01:33:41,916 --> 01:33:46,253 but, yes, it's like fucking huge. 1623 01:33:50,224 --> 01:33:52,293 Yeah, um... 1624 01:33:55,696 --> 01:33:58,899 [Sarah] I think I'm so proud of you. 1625 01:33:58,899 --> 01:34:01,068 You're amazing. 1626 01:34:01,068 --> 01:34:06,974 You're... on your way. Um... 1627 01:34:06,974 --> 01:34:09,410 Why do you seem so sad? 1628 01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:14,382 Because I don't remember the last time, like, 1629 01:34:14,382 --> 01:34:17,084 had a real conversation about anything. 1630 01:34:19,387 --> 01:34:22,857 What, what, what's happening? 1631 01:34:26,227 --> 01:34:27,895 I mean... 1632 01:34:29,764 --> 01:34:32,800 You are doing all of these amazing things 1633 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:37,838 and you're happy and that makes me happy. 1634 01:34:39,373 --> 01:34:42,943 But I don't really know what our relationship is anymore 1635 01:34:42,943 --> 01:34:44,912 because I never see you. 1636 01:34:44,912 --> 01:34:46,814 I know. 1637 01:34:46,814 --> 01:34:50,418 I think this could be an opportunity for us to 1638 01:34:50,418 --> 01:34:51,986 make space for each other. 1639 01:34:51,986 --> 01:34:54,822 I could actually delegate a little. 1640 01:34:54,822 --> 01:34:57,958 You know, Mimi's home by 11 every night, by the way. 1641 01:34:57,958 --> 01:35:02,096 I don't feel like I'm a part of this new person that you are, 1642 01:35:02,096 --> 01:35:04,899 and maybe that's just what it is, 1643 01:35:04,899 --> 01:35:07,868 -but-- -You're my partner. 1644 01:35:09,003 --> 01:35:11,005 How? 1645 01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,240 What? 1646 01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:27,488 [knocking] 1647 01:35:29,323 --> 01:35:32,359 -Got ya a present. -My God, you're a lunatic. 1648 01:35:32,359 --> 01:35:33,994 Get in here. 1649 01:35:39,734 --> 01:35:42,903 -You're the best. -You deserve it. 1650 01:35:43,738 --> 01:35:45,473 Let's do this. 1651 01:35:49,877 --> 01:35:51,278 Yeah. 1652 01:35:52,947 --> 01:35:55,282 -So? -So. 1653 01:35:55,282 --> 01:35:57,118 How do you feel? 1654 01:35:59,086 --> 01:36:01,188 That's it, right? 1655 01:36:03,190 --> 01:36:05,826 -Got a lot. -Yeah. 1656 01:36:05,826 --> 01:36:10,197 -You're gonna have to edit it. -I can do my job. 1657 01:36:10,197 --> 01:36:16,837 -Mm. I know. -So you're done asking questions? 1658 01:36:16,837 --> 01:36:19,507 I'm never gonna ask another question in my life. 1659 01:36:19,507 --> 01:36:22,543 Good. Because I have a question for you. 1660 01:36:22,543 --> 01:36:26,280 Just one, you promised, so... 1661 01:36:28,449 --> 01:36:29,950 You ready? 1662 01:36:30,851 --> 01:36:31,952 Sarah... 1663 01:36:33,053 --> 01:36:35,422 I would like to know... 1664 01:36:35,422 --> 01:36:38,259 and please answer in full sentence so we know 1665 01:36:38,259 --> 01:36:40,094 -what the question was. -[laughing] 1666 01:36:41,796 --> 01:36:47,234 Now that you have finished your investigation on marriage, 1667 01:36:47,234 --> 01:36:49,203 what are you gonna do? 1668 01:36:54,175 --> 01:36:57,011 [Sarah] I would do it. 1669 01:36:57,011 --> 01:37:00,080 If I felt like we were OK. 1670 01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:09,590 So, I'm just saying I want to fix us before I say yes. 1671 01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:11,892 [Kristen] I want to work through this with you. 1672 01:37:11,892 --> 01:37:16,163 But I also was just given this incredible opportunity 1673 01:37:16,163 --> 01:37:18,499 that I want to chase, 1674 01:37:18,499 --> 01:37:22,503 and you've always chased things, and I've never... 1675 01:37:24,271 --> 01:37:27,074 I've been chained to a desk my whole fucking life. 1676 01:37:27,074 --> 01:37:30,978 I've just been doing things I had to do. 1677 01:37:30,978 --> 01:37:34,915 -I know, but-- -I feel like it's my turn. 1678 01:37:34,915 --> 01:37:38,252 This isn't gonna work if one of us isn't happy. 1679 01:37:38,252 --> 01:37:40,521 If one of us is just following the other around, 1680 01:37:40,521 --> 01:37:42,122 that's not what a marriage is about, 1681 01:37:42,122 --> 01:37:45,392 so we have to fix what we're doing here together 1682 01:37:45,392 --> 01:37:50,965 before we make a big decision like this. 1683 01:37:59,006 --> 01:38:00,875 You're right. 1684 01:38:06,547 --> 01:38:08,549 I feel like... 1685 01:38:12,586 --> 01:38:17,157 I've been the unhappy one for a while. 1686 01:38:17,157 --> 01:38:19,326 And that wasn't fair. 1687 01:38:21,595 --> 01:38:25,332 But just because you were unhappy, 1688 01:38:25,332 --> 01:38:29,637 doesn't mean that now I should... 1689 01:38:29,637 --> 01:38:31,238 No. 1690 01:38:32,172 --> 01:38:34,208 No, you're right, but... 1691 01:38:38,279 --> 01:38:42,449 I worked through it, for us. 1692 01:38:43,617 --> 01:38:47,187 I want to work through this for us. 1693 01:38:47,187 --> 01:38:49,456 Here first. 1694 01:38:49,456 --> 01:38:52,526 [Kristen] I don't know what you want from me. 1695 01:38:52,526 --> 01:38:55,629 I feel like I'm finally happy. 1696 01:39:05,673 --> 01:39:10,244 So maybe your happiness just doesn't include me, you know? 1697 01:39:10,244 --> 01:39:12,012 [crying] 1698 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:38,405 Your self was more important than your marriage. 1699 01:39:40,007 --> 01:39:43,010 Yes. 1700 01:39:43,010 --> 01:39:46,480 And I think that there is someone out there 1701 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:51,218 I can really fully be myself with and be married to. 1702 01:39:51,218 --> 01:39:53,687 I'm not choosing to never be married. 1703 01:39:53,687 --> 01:39:57,057 Im choosing to be myself, 1704 01:39:57,057 --> 01:40:01,595 fully, for the first time, maybe ever. 1705 01:40:01,595 --> 01:40:04,565 -OK. -OK. 1706 01:40:08,168 --> 01:40:10,170 I'll be back. 1707 01:40:17,544 --> 01:40:20,381 [dog barking] 1708 01:40:20,381 --> 01:40:23,784 -Oh my God. -What, what? 1709 01:40:23,784 --> 01:40:28,756 -[gasps] Sarah! -Here, I'll take your picture. 1710 01:40:28,756 --> 01:40:30,491 Come here. 1711 01:40:30,491 --> 01:40:33,227 -Come here, my little star. -One, two. 1712 01:40:33,227 --> 01:40:35,029 Oh, you look good. Three. 1713 01:40:35,029 --> 01:40:36,430 Don't sound so surprised. 1714 01:40:36,430 --> 01:40:41,101 -Get in here. -One, two, three. 1715 01:40:41,101 --> 01:40:45,439 I came to a point where there were plenty of reasons to stay, 1716 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,408 and there were plenty of reasons to leave. 1717 01:40:47,408 --> 01:40:50,511 And I couldn't figure it out in my mind. 1718 01:40:50,511 --> 01:40:55,582 If I leave, wow, you know, I may leave my heart behind. 1719 01:40:55,582 --> 01:40:58,585 I thought it could go either way, you know, 1720 01:40:58,585 --> 01:41:01,488 I could sort of continue my life without her, 1721 01:41:01,488 --> 01:41:03,323 wherever that will lead, 1722 01:41:03,323 --> 01:41:07,694 or do I want to be with that again or not? 1723 01:41:07,694 --> 01:41:10,631 Can I let go of that or is there more there? 1724 01:41:10,631 --> 01:41:12,766 Sarah, come on, they're waiting for you. 1725 01:41:12,766 --> 01:41:15,369 -Oh, yes. -We have a screening. 1726 01:41:15,369 --> 01:41:18,472 Goddamn it, Gary. 1727 01:41:18,472 --> 01:41:20,774 -That's the greatest love. -Yeah. 1728 01:41:20,774 --> 01:41:25,546 I love you enough to have you go wherever you need to go. 1729 01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:27,374 [door creaks open] 1730 01:42:28,475 --> 01:42:31,145 -[Kristen] Hi, chef. -Hey. 1731 01:42:32,212 --> 01:42:33,847 I need an answer. 1732 01:42:38,285 --> 01:42:40,721 You need it now? 1733 01:43:02,342 --> 01:43:04,244 Are you going to Seattle? 1734 01:43:08,348 --> 01:43:10,517 I thought about it. 1735 01:43:28,368 --> 01:43:30,604 My answer... 1736 01:43:32,306 --> 01:43:33,907 is... 1737 01:44:31,965 --> 01:44:34,935 My main fear about same gender marriage 1738 01:44:34,935 --> 01:44:37,938 and all of the progress that we've made 1739 01:44:37,938 --> 01:44:39,573 is that we think that it's over. 1740 01:44:39,573 --> 01:44:44,411 That we think that LGBTQ equality has been won 1741 01:44:44,411 --> 01:44:47,547 and that A, everybody is happy that we got this, 1742 01:44:47,547 --> 01:44:50,984 and B, that there aren't more battles to be fought. 1743 01:44:50,984 --> 01:44:55,889 And so, while we are baking wedding cakes 1744 01:44:55,889 --> 01:45:01,028 and planning weddings and kind of getting ready 1745 01:45:01,028 --> 01:45:03,330 to meet the person that we're gonna spend 1746 01:45:03,330 --> 01:45:07,334 the rest of our lives with, and have it celebrated by society, 1747 01:45:07,334 --> 01:45:09,069 we're ignoring tons of people 1748 01:45:09,069 --> 01:45:12,005 who actually are fighting for their lives 1749 01:45:12,005 --> 01:45:14,541 instead of trying to figure out 1750 01:45:14,541 --> 01:45:16,777 how they're gonna plan their wedding. 1751 01:45:16,777 --> 01:45:20,814 And I think we have to hold both of those things in tension. 132083

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