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Sergeant David Budd, Metropolitan Police...
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British Transport Police have put out
an alert on a possible suicide bomber
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attempting to board
a London-bound service.
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Don't do that, please don't do that!
Please, just stay still, stay still!
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The man that was in here before,
is that your husband?
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And your husband wants you to die?
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I can't see any
justification for believing
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the Taliban would govern Afghanistan
in peace and harmony,
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or Iraqi insurgents would ever have
formed a stable democracy.
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That doesn't require
apologising for the past.
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That doesn't require
apologising for the past.
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I know you'll never let
anything bad happen to me.
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You said it, out in Helmand.
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If you ever found yourself right
beside one of those bastards
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that sent us out there,
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you'd just close your eyes
and pull the trigger.
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Armed police!
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You've got to finish the job.
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Whatever your training has made you,
it's out of control.
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No, I'm-I'm fine, Julia!
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No! You are far from fine.
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We've taken the liberty of
providing you with a tablet
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so the material can't be traced to
your own devices.
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I need to ask you to identify yourself.
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Richard Longcross.
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They're feeding her intelligence
they're keeping from us!
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What is she up to?
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You need to find out.
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- Julia?
- Prime Minister.
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This is unexpected.
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Julia's snatching the key to No 10.
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We need to do something, fast.
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Who the hell does she think she is?
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Do you want a plan put in place?
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I want you right beside me,
not because it's your job,
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but because it's our choice.
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If you fulfil your engagement at
St Matthew's,
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you'd get the exposure you need.
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I'm sure the police would take
a different view.
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This is a very,
very dangerous politician.
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Someone who must be stopped.
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What do you want?
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You see anyone out there?
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No.
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Stay put.
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- What's in the briefcase?
- Research files.
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Show me.
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- Everything OK, skipper?
- False alarm.
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The Home Secretary, Julia Montague,
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was among those injured in
the blast at St Matthew's College.
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I heard there were security
breaches from the word go.
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What the hell happened?
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A search team swept the auditorium twice.
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- Everything was clear.
- Well, it wasn't, was it?!
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After today's incident,
we can't rule out a connection.
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Suggesting the gunman
had at least one accomplice.
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..All inquiries
are being referred to Downing Street
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but so far No 10 have made no
official statement except...
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...to stay away from the Bloomsbury
area of London.
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...we're also being advised by
hospital officials that
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Ms Montague is currently undergoing
major surgery...
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The Metropolitan Police
is on high alert across London,
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with all off-duty officers
being called in to help
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with urgent identifying and
rounding up accomplices.
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Trauma call, ETA 15 minutes.
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PC Tom Fenton?
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DCI Deepak Sharma, SO15.
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- Sir.
- Sorry this is crap timing, mate,
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but I was trying to form
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a picture of the events
surrounding the explosion.
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Witnesses have already told us
one of your Principal's aides,
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Tahir Mahmood,
appeared at the side of the stage,
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and that he was carrying a briefcase?
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I didn't have eyes on that myself, sir.
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Well, what about afterwards?
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Anything from Mahmood?
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No, sir, he died instantly.
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What do you recall about the final
moments before the explosion?
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Kim...
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PC Knowles... She approached the stage.
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That's when the device went off.
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I was looking towards PS Budd,
to get a...
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...a steer on what was going on.
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What about Budd?
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I'm a bit in the dark on that, sir.
He left the auditorium and...
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...when he came back in, that's when...
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...Mahmood appeared on the stage.
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What was Budd doing outside?
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I don't know, sir.
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That's unusual, though, isn't it?
More than a coincidence?
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WHISPERS: I'm so sorry, sir.
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Look, before you go off duty, I need
you to write up a first account.
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Everything you can remember.
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Everything.
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OK, sir.
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Thanks.
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Amid the profound
sense of shock here tonight,
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two big straightforward questions
are being asked.
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First, was Julia Montague
the intended target of his attack?
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And second, was she just moments away
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from launching a bid to take over No 10?
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On that first question,
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the answer is, we simply do not know.
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On the second,
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well, for many months there have
been deepening divisions
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between her and the Prime Minister,
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the two at odds over
their approach to security,
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with the Home Secretary pushing
a more hard-line stance...
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- Sarge.
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Boss? Over here.
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All the TV cameras were trained on
the Home Secretary.
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We have this wider view
from a CCTV camera.
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Show us frame by frame on the explosion.
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From this angle, it's unclear
if the explosion originated
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from the briefcase.
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- You've shared this with Fort Halstead?
- Yeah.
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One for them to figure out.
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Ta.
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You got a location on Budd?
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On it, sir. Then we'll get him
straight in for a statement.
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Not just yet.
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- In the concealed files.
- Sarge!
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David!
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- What's going on?
- We're tracking communications
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involving the Home Secretary's
inner circle,
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in case they were compromised.
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OK...
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We're looking for anything
that might help us.
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Are you OK to consent to us
taking all of your phones,
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computers and any other relevant
devices you've been using for work?
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- Uh...
- And it would be a big help
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if we could also search
your address, please.
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It's... not a POLSA search
or anything that detailed.
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Sure, anything to help, huh?
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Cheers.
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And the phone.
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Ta.
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Right, let's get on with it.
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Bag up that computer and any other
devices he has lying around.
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Sarge!
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Open it up.
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Mind if we crack on while
everything's still fresh?
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Sir.
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One of your CPOs, Tom Fenton, has
provided us with a first account.
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Fenton was on duty with you
and PC Kimberley Knowles during
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- the Home Secretary's speech?
- That's correct.
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Fenton recalled you and PC Knowles
left the auditorium
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a short time before the explosion.
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- Yes.
- Why?
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I, uh... saw someone outside
the auditorium,
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- I went to investigate.
- Someone acting suspiciously?
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That's what I went to investigate.
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Who was this person?
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What does Kim say?
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What?
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I'm... sorry, David, um...
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Kimberly appears to have been
very close by the stage
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when the device went off.
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She died of her injuries.
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Look, mate, you know
how important this might be.
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Who was it?
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Tahir Mahmood.
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In what way was he behaving suspiciously?
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He wasn't. Or I'd have detained him.
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So what was he up to?
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He needed to get information
to the Home Secretary.
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- He was looking for backstage access.
- That's unusual, isn't it?
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- I wouldn't know.
- Well, a big speech.
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Some flunky arsing about on stage
kind of ruins the image, doesn't it?
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It's like I said, it's not my area.
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Witnesses report Tahir Mahmood
was carrying a briefcase.
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Yes.
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He showed me the contents.
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Home Office documents.
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How thoroughly did you
examine the briefcase?
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I inspected the contents.
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Inspected?
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I looked inside.
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Documents.
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Nothing else.
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Did you search Mahmood?
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If I saw grounds under Stop and
Search, I'd have searched him.
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He was a vetted Government aide
going about official business.
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So, you didn't search him?
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No.
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Some of the witnesses are
informing us that the explosion
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originated from the briefcase.
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We've got these video captures of CCTV
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in the seconds before the attack.
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As you can see,
Knowles approached the stage.
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Yes.
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Looks like she's alarmed
that Mahmood was up there.
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- That's possible...
- And here's you.
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Not so quick on the uptake.
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Like I said,
I didn't think he posed a threat.
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Why did you say, "What did Kim say?"
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You were the officer in command.
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You could've ordered him to be removed.
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This is the second attempt
on the Home Secretary's life.
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Following
the Thornton Circus sniper attack.
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Both times, you were the PPO.
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The officer in charge of
the Home Secretary's protection.
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Yes, sir.
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Either you've got rotten luck, mate,
or it's a coincidence.
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- Yes, sir.
- I don't believe in coincidences.
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I can't help you there, sir.
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Maybe you can help me
with something else.
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Why the Home Secretary?
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- Sir?
- Not the Prime Minister?
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Or a softer target.
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You join her protection team
and we've got Thornton Circus,
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we've got St Matthew's College,
what's going on?
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The Home Secretary has been
the Government's most...
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...visible spokesperson
for national security
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since well before I was her PPO.
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Louise.
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Thank you for providing
access to your devices.
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We've only had time for
an initial examination.
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Now, there appears to be occasions...
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...when you turned off your mobile phone.
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Why is that, David?
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To not be disturbed.
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Save battery.
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You're aware the effect is
to deactivate the phone's GPS
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- so your movements can't be tracked?
- That's not the reason.
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You also carried out a search
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on the Home Secretary's
parliamentary voting record.
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Yeah, why was that, David?
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Curiosity.
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Your duty's to protect a politician,
regardless of their policies.
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What were you curious about?
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Nothing in particular.
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David...
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Tell me something.
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Why did you abscond from the hospital?
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Abscond?
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No, sir.
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I was with the Home Secretary.
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Government officials arrived.
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I was ordered to give them privacy.
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You just walked out?
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Didn't report back to your unit,
didn't provide a statement.
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Louise had to track you down.
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Not hard, sir, was it?
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I went home.
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Why weren't you assisting the inquiry?
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I just wanted to be alone.
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An inquiry into an act of terror
perpetrated by someone
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you were the last police officer
to be in close contact with.
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David...
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...is there something
you're not revealing to us
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regarding the state of your mind
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before, during or after the attack?
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No.
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Right.
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Well, they're searching your flat.
272
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You got anywhere you can stay
tonight? Anyone you can call?
273
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SOFTLY: Yeah... Yeah.
274
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It's the husband,
Sorry.
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All secure here.
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After you hung up on me,
I kept trying to call you back.
277
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They took my phone as... part
of the investigation.
278
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Why couldn't you just let me
know you were OK?
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Cos I'm not.
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They've said...
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...one of the police officers was killed.
282
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Is it someone you knew well?
283
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We worked together.
284
00:17:09,477 --> 00:17:10,920
Your new bloke...
285
00:17:11,997 --> 00:17:13,800
He going to make a good dad?
286
00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:16,436
287
00:17:16,437 --> 00:17:19,360
You're their dad, Dave.
You'll always be their dad.
288
00:17:23,957 --> 00:17:26,757
- David...
- It's my job to protect the Principal.
289
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Now she's in an operating theatre
fighting for her life.
290
00:17:43,557 --> 00:17:46,500
Look, the sofa's made up for you.
I need to go up.
291
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We'll talk in the morning, yeah?
292
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TV: ...after the emergency
services were alerted
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at around 5 o'clock yesterday.
294
00:18:35,477 --> 00:18:38,636
There's now speculation that
their initial findings suggest
295
00:18:38,637 --> 00:18:42,076
the incident bears similarities to
recent acts of terror involving
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explosive devices, such as the
failed 1st October rail attack.
297
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I'm the Home Secretary's
Principal Protection Officer.
298
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- Is there any news?
- I'll take care of this.
299
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She's still in the operating theatre.
300
00:18:53,397 --> 00:18:56,036
I can take your number and call
if there's an update.
301
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Thanks, I'll, uh...
302
00:18:59,157 --> 00:19:00,557
I'll-I'll wait.
303
00:19:03,117 --> 00:19:06,196
TV: The police's biggest fear
has always been that these devices
304
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represent the work of a single bomb-maker
305
00:19:08,517 --> 00:19:10,397
or a bomb-making terror cell.
306
00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:15,236
Officers from the Metropolitan
Police's Counter Terrorism Branch,
307
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SO15, have been working round
the clock to identify suspects,
308
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but apart from the man and
woman detained for their part
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00:19:21,637 --> 00:19:25,756
in the 1st October attack,
there have been no further arrests.
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The Met's Head of Counter Terrorism,
Commander Anne Sampson,
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has come under increasing pressure.
312
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However, sources close to
Commander Sampson have told BBC News
313
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that the Met are facing
an extraordinary threat.
314
00:19:46,437 --> 00:19:48,157
Commander Anne Sampson.
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Thank you all for coming in.
316
00:20:00,197 --> 00:20:04,036
Um... The PM's asked me to step up
to Acting Home Secretary.
317
00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:07,316
Now, it goes without saying,
I'd never wish in a million years
318
00:20:07,317 --> 00:20:09,676
to assume this role
under these circumstances,
319
00:20:09,677 --> 00:20:13,036
and I hope it's not long before
Julia's able to retake the reins.
320
00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:16,396
Uh... In the meantime,
321
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,519
my duty's very clear,
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to identify those responsible
323
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and neutralise any threats
still at large.
324
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,920
I know you'll all help me to do that.
325
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,279
The Security Service
is working round the clock.
326
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,800
We'll continue to serve faithfully.
327
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440
I understand IS have put out a tweet.
328
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:38,502
"We salute our brothers
329
00:20:38,527 --> 00:20:41,479
who have stuck a knife in the
heart of the British state."
330
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,097
They're not actually claiming
responsibility,
331
00:20:44,098 --> 00:20:45,810
plus the tweet's light on detail,
332
00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:48,093
with no specific mention of the bomber.
333
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,999
We're conducting a meticulous
forensic examination
334
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,813
of the crime scene, and we've begun
inspecting CCTV of the venue.
335
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,119
So far, only one suspicious
individual has been detected,
336
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:05,880
a presumptive suicide bomber
killed instantly by the blast.
337
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,520
Tahir Mahmood.
338
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,159
My God, how could it be someone
from our own department?!
339
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,520
Aren't we meant to vet these people?!
340
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,947
The evidence incriminating Mahmood
is still only circumstantial.
341
00:21:20,948 --> 00:21:22,747
He was vetted, thoroughly.
342
00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:25,027
He had no terrorist associations
whatsoever.
343
00:21:25,028 --> 00:21:28,145
How could he? He was cleared to work
in the heart of Government.
344
00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:32,400
We've only just begun examining
Mahmood's communication history.
345
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,999
Counter-terrorism officers
have been carrying out raids
346
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,119
throughout the night.
347
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,399
We've taken a number of Mahmood's
family members into custody.
348
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,359
It's too early to exclude anyone
or anything, far too early.
349
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:47,975
The more pertinent question is,
how and why did the police officers
350
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920
responsible for
the Home Secretary's safety
351
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,639
fail to detect the bomb
in the first place?
352
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,360
You're not listening, Stephen.
353
00:21:54,461 --> 00:21:57,055
The device wasn't planted beforehand.
354
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,040
It was smuggled in by Mahmood.
355
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,599
You don't have proof yet.
356
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,655
And all I'm hearing, Anne,
is you trying to point the finger
357
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,640
at the Security Service.
358
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,348
For God's sake, stop this!
359
00:22:06,349 --> 00:22:09,300
The country's relying on us
to work together!
360
00:22:11,789 --> 00:22:13,029
Thank you.
361
00:22:14,469 --> 00:22:17,588
Now, I know this is difficult
for everyone to contemplate,
362
00:22:17,589 --> 00:22:20,068
but my officers need access
363
00:22:20,069 --> 00:22:23,080
to all staff associated with Mahmood.
364
00:22:26,109 --> 00:22:29,268
Naturally, we will cooperate fully,
365
00:22:29,269 --> 00:22:31,548
but this must be in strictest confidence.
366
00:22:31,549 --> 00:22:34,108
- Absolutely.
- No, this cannot get out, cannot!
367
00:22:34,109 --> 00:22:35,700
No leaks.
368
00:22:36,349 --> 00:22:39,240
The more we delve into this inquiry,
the more likely it seems
369
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,079
all the recent terror events
could be connected.
370
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,519
In our view, the probability
371
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,919
is extremely high of a single bomb-maker.
372
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,559
All these incidents could be
connected under a single conspiracy.
373
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,919
Accomplices to that conspiracy
could still be at large,
374
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,773
including the mastermind behind it all.
375
00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,072
Yes.
376
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,973
I don't...
377
00:23:02,323 --> 00:23:06,319
...in the circumstances mean
to sound unsympathetic,
378
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,879
but it would help to know
if the Home Secretary's wishes
379
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,575
still apply regarding
the Security Service taking the lead
380
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,460
in these investigations?
381
00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:20,353
It's a police matter.
382
00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:22,740
Thank you very much.
383
00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:25,500
Thanks.
384
00:23:31,658 --> 00:23:33,600
New broom, Stephen.
385
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,533
Seems the Acting Home Secretary's
not as susceptible to the bullshit.
386
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,880
David?
387
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,813
What the hell are you still doing here?
388
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159
You had your job, and you failed.
389
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,440
I'm sorry.
390
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,719
- Roger Penhaligon.
- Hello.
391
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,440
We did everything we could. I am sorry.
392
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,319
It is with the deepest regret
393
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,775
that I can confirm that despite
the heroic efforts
394
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,640
of our emergency services,
395
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760
the Home Secretary, Julia Montague,
396
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000
succumbed to her injuries
and was pronounced dead
397
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,860
a short while ago.
398
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,239
I wish to express my Government's
gratitude to those members
399
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800
of the emergency services
who've rendered assistance
400
00:25:33,085 --> 00:25:37,720
and extend our deepest sympathies to
every victim of yesterday's attack,
401
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,319
which also claimed the life of our
esteemed colleague, Julia Montague.
402
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,399
Our thoughts and prayers go out
to her friends and family
403
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,173
at this tragic time.
404
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,672
Yesterday's assault on
our democratic process
405
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,639
was a cowardly act, perpetrated
by individuals with no regard
406
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680
for our values of tolerance,
407
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,239
respect and the rule of law.
408
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,639
My Government and I will continue
to be vigilant against
409
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,159
these conspiracies which betray
the unity of our nation.
410
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800
These plots do not always arise
411
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,380
from outside our number...
412
00:26:17,362 --> 00:26:19,560
...outside our community.
413
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,493
Some fester within.
414
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,360
415
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,920
416
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,640
417
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,096
418
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,400
419
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,640
Fuck!
420
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,919
Boss! We've got CCTV on Mahmood.
421
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,213
Great.
422
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,880
Play again.
423
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,479
- Is that the briefcase?
- Yes, sir.
424
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440
Just watch what happens next.
425
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,860
Shit.
426
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,797
Play on.
427
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,340
We're going through the Palace of
Westminster Security to ID him.
428
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,140
Thanks, Louise.
429
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,079
Ma'am? DCI Sharma.
430
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,200
Ma'am.
431
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,999
Rob Macdonald.
432
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,840
He's worked at the Home Office
for three years,
433
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,919
the last two as Special Advisor
to Julia Montague.
434
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,500
Why is he of interest?
435
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,420
Just a couple of hours
before the bombing.
436
00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:35,724
We understand Macdonald's
at the Home Office now.
437
00:29:35,725 --> 00:29:37,900
Louise Rayburn's on standby
to bring him in.
438
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:42,860
Ma'am?
439
00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:47,220
I've only just got
the Home Office back on side.
440
00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:51,460
Leave this with me, if that's OK, Deepak.
441
00:29:58,871 --> 00:30:00,151
442
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,659
Yes, ma'am?
443
00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:13,779
Put me through to Mike Travis
at the Home Office.
444
00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:14,820
Ma'am.
445
00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:47,240
Dave, it's me!
446
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,420
447
00:30:58,538 --> 00:30:59,618
David!
448
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,900
David, I know you took my keys!
449
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,319
450
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:14,540
David, I've been phoning you
all morning. I'm worried about you!
451
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,179
Look, open the door
or I'll call the police.
452
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:18,700
453
00:31:21,295 --> 00:31:22,975
Dave, is that you?
454
00:31:24,481 --> 00:31:28,060
Look, open the door or, I mean it,
I will call the police!
455
00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:36,860
Dave!
456
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,380
What is this stuff?
457
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:49,700
Brass fragments.
458
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:54,322
Fragments of what?
459
00:31:58,300 --> 00:31:59,740
From the case.
460
00:32:00,984 --> 00:32:02,264
What case?
461
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:09,140
The bullet case.
462
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:17,980
Oh, my God...
463
00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:22,580
Dave, what the fuck?!
464
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:26,580
I...
465
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:30,713
What about...?
466
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,739
What about Ella and Charlie?!
467
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:34,420
Mm...
468
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:36,620
I...
469
00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:40,659
I'm taking you straight to the hospital.
470
00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:43,139
No. No-one can know about this.
471
00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:44,975
There is a burn and a bruise
472
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,720
and it looks like
you've ruptured your eardrum.
473
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920
- They'll heal, won't they?
- Yes, Dave, in time, but...
474
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,980
Jesus Christ! You cannot keep
pretending that you're OK!
475
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,700
Dave, you shot yourself!
476
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Not quite.
477
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,220
It was a blank round.
478
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Well, why did you use a blank?
479
00:33:14,523 --> 00:33:16,083
I didn't know it was.
480
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680
I don't know how that could've happened.
481
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,380
Right, Vic, you'd better go.
The kids, eh?
482
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,900
CLEARS THROAT: Th-There's no way
I am leaving you here like this.
483
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,095
Waterloo Station was
closed while bomb disposal officers
484
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,961
were called to investigate
a suspect package...
485
00:33:47,962 --> 00:33:49,880
...The alert proved to be
a false alarm and services
486
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,919
resumed this evening, though there
will be delays due to...
487
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,879
...Terror cell is still at large.
488
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,338
The palpable fear on the streets
of London is that the bomb-maker
489
00:33:58,339 --> 00:33:59,599
will construct more devices...
490
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,199
...A terror alert at Vauxhall Bridge
was another false alarm,
491
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,600
yet all police leave remains
cancelled until further notice...
492
00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:08,129
Look, I'm really sorry, I can't tonight.
493
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,680
A friend's come over.
494
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,760
She's having a bit of a crisis.
495
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,400
Why are you wearing that?
496
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,380
It keeps my head warm.
497
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160
You don't normally wear a hat indoors.
498
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,900
You said it's silly.
499
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Then I'm being silly.
500
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,199
The pizza good?
501
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,280
- It's nice.
- It's OK.
502
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,453
Dad... what's wrong?
503
00:34:44,476 --> 00:34:46,220
Nothing, I just need a hug.
504
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279
HE SOBS SOFTLY
505
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,293
Dad? Are you all right?
506
00:34:59,771 --> 00:35:02,300
I just did something silly today.
507
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,760
Wearing the hat?
508
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,840
That, too.
509
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,293
I love you both very much.
510
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,320
Right, come on, pizza.
511
00:35:38,556 --> 00:35:40,482
TV: In her political career,
512
00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:42,919
Julia Montague was a divisive figure.
513
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
In the weeks before her assassination,
514
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,957
she was best known for spearheading
the controversial RIPA-18 Bill
515
00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:50,520
through the House of Commons.
516
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,999
Her stance on national security
issues made her a target
517
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,679
of protests by civil liberties groups.
518
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Ms Montague was the target of
an earlier assassination attempt...
519
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,039
520
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839
...by a gunman who fired shots
at her ministerial car.
521
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,280
Uh, shut the door, Rob.
522
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,559
I've had a call from
Anne Sampson, SO15 Commander.
523
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,240
They want to go over
some things with you.
524
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,880
Uh, just me or...?
525
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Oh, Christ, Mike, Jesus Christ!
526
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,079
Look, mate, Sampson was at pains
to point out she doesn't want
527
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,839
to jeopardise our working relationship,
528
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,519
guarantees complete discretion.
529
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,479
- This is a voluntary interview...
- It wasn't even my idea.
530
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,000
...a voluntary interview and
consent to forensic searches.
531
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Searches for what?
532
00:36:35,023 --> 00:36:37,920
Well, they need to examine
your home and vehicle
533
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,439
for traces of explosives.
534
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,199
What? Mike, seriously?!
535
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,215
Look, OK, no-one needs
to know anything about it.
536
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,080
- We'll get you the best solicitor.
- For God's sake, what?
537
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,735
- Why is this all on me?
- Enough...
538
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,715
- Are they going to interview you?!
- I said enough!
539
00:36:51,011 --> 00:36:52,491
They won't find anything.
540
00:36:53,416 --> 00:36:56,815
There's a simple, plausible story
for you to stick to.
541
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,620
And you will stick to it.
542
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400
543
00:37:05,739 --> 00:37:06,979
On my way.
544
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,680
I'll be back in a sec.
545
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,573
- You've barely eaten.
- I need to get back to work.
546
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:18,708
You're not well enough.
547
00:37:19,387 --> 00:37:22,520
Something's going on,
something I can't figure out.
548
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440
What makes you say that?
549
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,479
Someone tampered with my gun.
550
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,093
It was behind a skirting board,
then I shifted it.
551
00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:33,119
Someone had access to my flat,
552
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,919
carried out a thorough search...
553
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,305
Uh, well, the-the police
searched your flat.
554
00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:39,960
Yeah, if they found an illegal
firearm, they'd seize it,
555
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,958
they wouldn't just change out
the bullets for blanks.
556
00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:44,319
No, this was... someone else.
557
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,119
Someone with expertise,
558
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,100
someone...
559
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:50,433
...with an agenda.
560
00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:53,700
Well... who would that be?
561
00:37:56,660 --> 00:38:00,344
For the DIR, Mr Macdonald is being
interviewed on a voluntary basis
562
00:38:00,345 --> 00:38:03,459
and has chosen to be
accompanied by a solicitor.
563
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,480
Thank you for assisting our inquiry.
564
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,380
Anything to help, anything at all.
565
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,740
Let's start with the attack
on St Matthew's College.
566
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,480
What were your movements that day, sir?
567
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Uh... Commons that morning,
then back to the Home Office.
568
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,119
You didn't travel with
the Home Secretary and her team?
569
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,975
Oh, unfortunately, I couldn't.
There's, um, too much to deal with
570
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,480
following the vote on the RIPA-18 Bill.
571
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,080
More like fortunately.
572
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,280
You normally skip big speeches?
573
00:38:29,478 --> 00:38:33,360
I-I was frustrated not to be there
but I was needed in the office.
574
00:38:37,197 --> 00:38:40,239
For the DIR, I'm showing Mr Macdonald
575
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,640
video-capture images
from the Palace of Westminster.
576
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:48,433
Who are seen in these images?
577
00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:51,819
I am, and...
578
00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:53,280
...Tahir Mahmood.
579
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,455
And how would you describe your
relationship with Tahir Mahmood?
580
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680
- Good.
- Why are you lying to us, Mr Macdonald?
581
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,039
My client is telling the truth.
582
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,159
Provide some basis for that question
or kindly withdraw it.
583
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,964
A forensic lip-reader
has examined the CCTV,
584
00:39:06,989 --> 00:39:08,440
and according to her transcript,
585
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,413
the conversation between you
appears acrimonious.
586
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,879
It's, uh...
587
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,599
Politics is a high-stress business.
588
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,780
There are words and then it's
all forgotten over a few beers.
589
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:25,245
Therefore, it is truthful to say
that you had a good
590
00:39:25,246 --> 00:39:27,500
- relationship with Mahmood.
- Mm.
591
00:39:30,220 --> 00:39:32,020
But I-I didn't know him well.
592
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:34,860
I mean, we-we weren't close.
593
00:39:37,811 --> 00:39:41,250
O-Obviously, we're all... extremely shocked
594
00:39:41,251 --> 00:39:42,851
to think he might be involved.
595
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:45,540
So...
596
00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:49,060
...what's going on here, then,
Mr Macdonald?
597
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,460
I was, um...
598
00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:02,380
I'm, uh...
599
00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:05,259
...providing Tahir
with documents relating to
600
00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:06,579
the Home Secretary's speech.
601
00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:08,860
Where did you obtain the briefcase?
602
00:40:14,953 --> 00:40:17,999
Um, it-it, uh, it was Tahir's.
603
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,479
You took a long time to answer.
604
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,360
Sorry, it's been a very difficult time,
605
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,940
and I couldn't immediately recall.
606
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,559
It was Tahir's.
607
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,279
He left it with me,
and, uh, I was returning it to him.
608
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,519
Was there anything suspicious
about the briefcase?
609
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,679
Uh, not that I can think of.
610
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,276
If you were just giving him documents,
611
00:40:33,276 --> 00:40:34,855
why the need for the briefcase?
612
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,759
It seemed easier that way,
and we were returning his briefcase.
613
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,620
We?
614
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,360
I.
615
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,239
We've managed to get Mahmood's
communication history.
616
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,440
A call was received to his phone
before the bombing.
617
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,755
Now, according to his contacts,
it's listed as your number.
618
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:56,060
What was the purpose of this call,
Mr Macdonald?
619
00:40:59,732 --> 00:41:02,579
Probably I just called him to make
sure that everything was OK.
620
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:04,659
It's an important speech
621
00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:06,899
and I was frustrated
not to be there in support.
622
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,000
Everything wasn't OK, though, was it?
623
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:11,339
- I'm sorry?
- Mahmood attempted to interrupt
624
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:12,739
the Home Secretary's speech.
625
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:14,219
Not on my account.
626
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:15,520
Odd, though, isn't it?
627
00:41:15,545 --> 00:41:18,240
Literally a couple of minutes
before Mahmood rushes backstage,
628
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,900
he receives a call from you.
629
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,947
You sure he didn't tell you
630
00:41:22,972 --> 00:41:24,615
- he needed to do that?
- Certain.
631
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,760
- He didn't seek your advice about it?
- No!
632
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,620
Whatever Tahir was doing,
I'm completely in the dark about it.
633
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,119
These are all of Mahmood's movements.
634
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840
With the Home Secretary.
635
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,580
Receiving a call off Rob Macdonald.
636
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,120
Being stopped by David Budd.
637
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,920
Why didn't he spot the bomb?
638
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Hello.
639
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,235
- Sir?
- Police Sergeant Budd.
640
00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:40,080
I'd like to speak to
your security manager, please.
641
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,356
He'll remember me, we had
a few briefings when I stayed here.
642
00:42:42,357 --> 00:42:43,340
Certainly, sir.
643
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,400
Security?
644
00:42:47,531 --> 00:42:49,360
Right, this is the time
I'm interested in.
645
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,073
The Home Secretary received a visitor.
646
00:42:51,098 --> 00:42:52,380
OK.
647
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Ten o'clock.
648
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,559
What happened there?
649
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,720
Sorry, Dave, it shouldn't do that.
650
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,479
Shit. Uh...
651
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Let's look at the lobby or the lifts?
652
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,640
- See if we can nab him that way.
- OK.
653
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Stair access?
654
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,559
655
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,079
I don't know what to say, mate.
656
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,359
Chris, no bullshit now,
657
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,359
who's had access to these hard drives?
658
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,079
I checked the logs already.
659
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,440
No-one's been at it.
660
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,560
No-one.
661
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,359
Do you have any leads yet on Mahmood
having any accomplices
662
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,455
or association with terrorist groups?
663
00:44:20,456 --> 00:44:23,655
No, ma'am. All the searches so far
relating to Rob Macdonald have failed
664
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,400
to detect any traces of explosives.
665
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,782
And it's still unclear if the device
was in the briefcase all along
666
00:44:28,783 --> 00:44:30,880
or if Mahmood made the pick-up
within the venue.
667
00:44:31,063 --> 00:44:32,862
Plus, there's still no CCTV
668
00:44:32,863 --> 00:44:35,023
of any of his backstage activity.
669
00:44:36,183 --> 00:44:37,463
All right.
670
00:44:43,371 --> 00:44:46,142
What's the latest re David Budd?
671
00:44:46,143 --> 00:44:50,540
So far, the CCTV does appear to
support Budd's version of events.
672
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:54,139
He's still a person of interest, ma'am.
673
00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:57,859
We've retaken responsibility
for interviewing Nadia Ali.
674
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,199
She's our best lead to the bomb-maker.
675
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,679
She's terrified, though.
676
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,479
Still in thrall to her husband.
677
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,380
However, speaking of PS Budd,
678
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,533
I believe there's a short cut into
convincing her she can trust us.
679
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,375
...spokesman repeated
concerns the blasts are the work
680
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,680
of a single bomb-maker.
681
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,606
We have a prime suspect in
the attack on St Matthew's College
682
00:45:19,607 --> 00:45:22,375
that killed the former
Home Secretary, Julia Montague.
683
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640
...We are continuing to withhold
the name of the suicide bomber
684
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,319
responsible for the attack.
685
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,040
It is not yet
known if he was acting alone,
686
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,400
nor is it yet confirmed
whether he was a member
687
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040
of a recognised terrorist organisation.
688
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,620
What's with the new look?
689
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,280
...and what now for RIPA-18?
690
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,640
Having lost its...
691
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,120
The hat?
692
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,460
Keeps my head warm.
693
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,780
Do me a favour, mate,
and remove the headgear.
694
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,800
You're going to have to at some point.
695
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,400
You didn't get that in
the explosion. What happened?
696
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,220
A gas ring was playing up.
697
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,740
I had my head right over the hob,
didn't...
698
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,559
...realise the gas was open
on one of the other rings.
699
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,160
When I hit the spark...
700
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,900
Nadia, thank you very much
for speaking to us.
701
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,599
If anything's unclear,
please feel free to consult
702
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440
with your solicitor
or your Appropriate Adult.
703
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200
If at any time you need to stop,
704
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,200
please just say so.
705
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,920
Do you understand?
706
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,320
Yes.
707
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,919
I'm now going to hand you over
to Police Sergeant Budd.
708
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,039
- Assalaamu Alaikum.
- Walaikum Salaam.
709
00:46:51,340 --> 00:46:54,179
For the DIR, I said, "Peace be upon you,"
710
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:57,220
and the interviewee replied,
"And also upon you."
711
00:46:58,415 --> 00:47:00,860
So, Nadia, how are you doing?
712
00:47:05,499 --> 00:47:08,140
This is all very... intimidating.
713
00:47:08,866 --> 00:47:12,080
That's why the officers here
thought it would be a good idea
714
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,693
for me to talk with you.
715
00:47:15,554 --> 00:47:17,007
That was scary.
716
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,893
On the train, when we met.
717
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,340
I am really glad that
no-one got hurt that day.
718
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,580
I am, too.
719
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Thank you for helping me.
720
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,079
Nadia, what... I'd like to do is
ask you some questions
721
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,773
about the bomb you intended to use
on the train.
722
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,040
That'd be all right?
723
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,359
Sorry, Nadia,
724
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,340
is it OK if you could speak up?
725
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,173
For the recording.
726
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,613
Oh, sorry, um, yes.
727
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,480
How did you obtain the bomb?
728
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,900
I know you're frightened...
729
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,140
...but we can protect you.
730
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,420
Now, you believe me, don't you?
731
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,679
Sorry. Nadia...?
732
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,853
Oh, sorry. Um, yes.
733
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,760
Where did the bomb come from?
734
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,560
My husband.
735
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,329
At this point, I should note for the
tape that I've briefed my client
736
00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:25,079
regarding the legal compellability
of a spouse,
737
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,799
and Nadia's Appropriate Adult
is satisfied
738
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,439
that she's cooperating
of her own free will.
739
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,800
Thank you.
740
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Your husband gave you the bomb to wear?
741
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Yes.
742
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,213
I know this is very upsetting.
743
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,613
But you're doing really well.
744
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,280
Really well.
745
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,840
Did your husband build the bomb himself?
746
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,133
Take your time answering.
747
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Did he build it?
748
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,120
No.
749
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,240
He got it from someone else?
750
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Nadia, we're desperate to find the person
751
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,760
who's been creating these devices.
752
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,839
He's killed and wounded dozens of people,
753
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,253
and he'll kill more
if we don't catch him.
754
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,719
He said it was a gift.
755
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,640
A gift? Who from?
756
00:49:38,353 --> 00:49:39,753
He wouldn't tell me.
757
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,580
OK.
758
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,873
You're doing great.
This is really helpful.
759
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,780
Perhaps he had meetings with someone?
760
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,399
I was never allowed.
761
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,679
You weren't allowed to know
who he was meeting?
762
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Sometimes, he would lock me
in the house when he went out.
763
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,280
That must have been very frightening.
764
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,360
And upsetting.
765
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Were there any names he mentioned?
766
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Or people he was close to
that you were suspicious of?
767
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,280
There was only one time.
768
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,740
What happened?
769
00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:24,920
He locked me in the house,
770
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,173
but I was crying so loud he thought
the neighbours might hear.
771
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,200
What did he do?
772
00:50:31,773 --> 00:50:35,420
He forced me into his car.
He made me go with him.
773
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,800
Where?
774
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,940
I don't know.
775
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,720
A car park.
776
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,980
In London?
777
00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:44,240
I don't know, I think so.
778
00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:47,499
Was it a long drive or short?
779
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,540
How many minutes?
780
00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:51,099
20, no more.
781
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,680
That's great.
782
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,200
That's great.
783
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,373
What happened in this car park?
784
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,020
He met with a man.
785
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,039
The man gave him something.
786
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,119
That's very important information.
787
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Well done, Nadia.
788
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,240
What did this man give your husband?
789
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,720
I can't remember.
790
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,359
Could it have been a piece of
luggage or a case of some sort?
791
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,220
David...
792
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,460
You don't remember what the item was?
793
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,580
The interviewee is shaking her head.
794
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480
Can you describe this man?
795
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,133
No-one can hurt you, Nadia.
You're safe now.
796
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,173
Was he... an Asian man?
797
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,173
The interviewee is nodding.
Good. Thank you, Nadia.
798
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,260
Have you ever seen any
of these men before?
799
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,333
Just... take your time.
800
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,613
I don't know, I-I... maybe.
801
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,093
I think we should
take a break now, Nadia.
802
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,159
I'm going to ask my colleagues
to get together some maps
803
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,759
and some satellite photos,
804
00:53:09,784 --> 00:53:12,740
and we're going to see if you can
help us locate this car park.
805
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:19,520
DS Rayburn pausing interview at 15:50.
806
00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:32,820
Cheers.
807
00:53:34,753 --> 00:53:35,953
Well done in there.
808
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,379
Feels like we're finally
getting somewhere at last.
809
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:42,056
If we're able to locate where her
husband met with the bomb supplier,
810
00:53:42,057 --> 00:53:44,048
maybe Nadia can pick him out from CCTV.
811
00:53:44,073 --> 00:53:44,820
Yeah.
812
00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:46,140
We'll see.
813
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:47,540
Louise?
814
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:51,340
Stuff's... happening...
815
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:53,280
...behind the scenes.
816
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Someone acquired access to my flat
without my knowledge.
817
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,079
Oh... We carried out a search.
818
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,599
- There was no sign of forced entry.
- There's more to this, Louise.
819
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,040
Take Tahir Mahmood's position
at the Home Office.
820
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,519
If he's really the bomber,
he wasn't vetted properly.
821
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,959
Who's in charge of vetting?
822
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,556
The bosses are the ones
in a slanging match
823
00:54:10,557 --> 00:54:13,439
with the Security Service.
Way above my pay grade.
824
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,359
Tahir couldn't have been acting alone.
825
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,919
He wasn't carrying the bomb
when I searched that briefcase.
826
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,879
Someone else we don't know about
either gave it to him
827
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,239
or planted it for him to pick up.
828
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,780
- Someone with access.
- Well, who?
829
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,759
After the Home Secretary
moved to the Blackwood Hotel,
830
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,653
someone acquired clearance to make
a secret visit to her suite.
831
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,055
He had an insight into her movements,
832
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,280
was able to bypass our security.
833
00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:41,812
He gave the name Richard Longcross.
834
00:54:41,813 --> 00:54:43,772
I viewed CCTV from the hotel.
835
00:54:43,773 --> 00:54:46,532
It's been tampered with,
so there's no evidence of his visit.
836
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:48,545
Security Service, I'm sure of it.
837
00:54:48,546 --> 00:54:50,652
I'm not investigating
the Security Service,
838
00:54:50,653 --> 00:54:52,906
I'm investigating Tahir Mahmood.
839
00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,575
I'm sorry, David. End of.
840
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,000
The Principal...
841
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,359
...was killed on my watch.
842
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,920
I want to be part of finding
the bastards that did it.
843
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,620
Maybe that's a reason for you not to be.
844
00:55:33,006 --> 00:55:36,719
This is grade-A bullshit,
Sampson involving him in the inquiry
845
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,213
while he's still a person of interest.
846
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,839
Two attacks on the Home Secretary.
Budd PPO for both.
847
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,400
Mahmood's briefcase...
848
00:55:43,752 --> 00:55:45,392
I don't trust him.
849
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,340
He's hiding something.
850
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,100
- Anything?
- No. Nothing yet.
851
00:56:15,152 --> 00:56:23,165
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