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Look at that jumping. Look-it,
it is going nuts.
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Radiation spikes keep occurring
across the ranch.
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I get my biggest readings
looking up.
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TRAVIS:
It's coming from the sky.
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The measurements lead us
to a spot one mile high.
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Ignition.
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The team and I sent up rockets
to try and identify the source.
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- We got something. Hold on.
- Look, look, look! - What is that?
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TRAVIS:
That wasn't a plane.
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- Oh, there it is again!
- There it is again!
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- It's still in the same spot!
- Right there.
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TRAVIS: Let's look
at the surveillance footage
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and see if there's
something in it.
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There it is. We saw a UFO.
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NARRATOR: There is a
ranch in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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(insects chirping)
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(bird warbling in distance)
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(dog barking)
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TRAVIS:
Gol' dang it, William.
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What are you barking at?
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So, William just woke me up.
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It's, like, 4:51 a. m.
in the morning,
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and he's barking like crazy,
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and he took off running
out across the field.
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I'm gonna go see
if I can see what it was.
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(unlocking door)
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(sighs)
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All right, William,
what are you barking at?
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For the past few days,
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I've been staying overnight
on the ranch.
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That way, I can catch strange
things as they're happening,
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but I wasn't expecting
those things to happen so soon.
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Sounds like there's something
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just screeching
in the background.
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(distant, rhythmic crackling)
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I... I don't know what that is,
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but I'm gonna go look
on the spectrum analyzer
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and see if maybe...
maybe it's something on it.
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Maybe... this sound
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has something to do
with the crazy microwave signals
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we've been seeing.
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(sighs)
Turn this computer on.
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Um...
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All right,
let's turn this thing on.
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(low, electronic crackling)
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What is that?
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I'm not sure what I'm seeing.
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Wow!
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I mean, the-the... there's
a signal oscillating up and down
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between, like,
20-something meg...
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26-ish megahertz
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all the way up to two gigahertz.
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This is crazy.
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I'm getting
a huge and constant level
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of radio waves across the
entire frequency spectral band.
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It's like turning on a radio
and having every single station
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playing the exact same song
at the exact same level.
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Now, if I move it across,
look at the signal.
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It's extremely sinusoidal,
and it has a lot of structure.
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I've never seen
anything like it.
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It just keeps on going
all the way across the spectrum.
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Wow!
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That's just insane.
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I don't... I don't know
what to think about this.
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I've never seen anything
like it in my life.
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♪ ♪
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I called you guys here 'cause
I wanted to talk to you about
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what happened to me
this morning.
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You know, at, uh, 4:51,
William woke me up barking,
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and I went outside
to see if I could figure out
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what he was barking at, and-and
I hear off in the distance
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this weird "wah, wah, wah."
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So I figured I'd go in and look
on the spectrum analyzer,
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and I'm seeing all these
signals, from the microwave band
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all the way down past
the ham bands at 35 megahertz.
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Now, to do that, it would be...
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I don't even know
how we would do that.
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That's...
it's-it's almost impossible.
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Since I've been here
with the team
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investigating Skinwalker Ranc,
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a lot of strange
and bizarre things
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have been happening.
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- Look, look. Did you see that?
- What is that?
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We've seen strange lights
and glowing effects
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coming off the mesa.
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My head is hurting bad.
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Well, let's get you
the heck out of here, man.
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We've had people
suddenly getting lightheaded
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or, in the case
of Tom Winterton,
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getting severe pain
and swelling in their scalp.
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Look-it, it's going nuts.
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We've discovered that dangerous
levels of transient radiation
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are coming from an area
about a mile above the ranch.
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It's coming from up there.
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And when we tried
to investigate it
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with a weather balloon, it just
disappeared without a trace.
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- Where the hell is it?
- Oh, wow.
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And then, just one week ago...
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- Ignition.
- ...we launched a series
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of rockets
up into that same spot...
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- Look, look, look.
- What is that? - ...and suddenly...
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- There it is again!
- ...the entire team
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witnessed two UFOs,
clear as day.
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THOMAS:
It's gone.
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So, here's one thing
that it could possibly mean.
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This might sound crazy,
but what if the only way
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to explain
all these things is...
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...with a wormhole?
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Now, although the existence
of wormholes
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hasn't been proven yet,
Albert Einstein theorized
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that they do exist,
and assuming you have
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a massive amount of energy
to cause one,
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they could connect
two different points
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in space and time.
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I know it's a far-fetched idea,
but it's about the only thing
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that I can think of that could
be responsible for everything
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that's been reported
to have happened up here.
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So, imagine you've got...
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a bowl...
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that's the Uinta Basin.
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- Okay.
- And it's roughly...
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70 miles...
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in diameter across, right?
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Well, and it's gonna focus
like this big satellite dish.
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Whatever energy hits it,
it's gonna be focused back up
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to a single point.
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So, what does that mean?
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Is this the spot where
something weird is happening,
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where all this energy
is being created
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where there was events
happening?
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Are you thinking
of this location
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as-as a place where the energy
is emanating from
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or a place
where it's being harvested?
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TRAVIS:
That's a good question.
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What if the Uinta Basin-
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it's got jaggies and things
in it-
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it could be looking like a lens,
and the source
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could be beneath it,
and it could be underground
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from the center of the Earth
coming up
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and then being focused
to a point.
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But the point is,
there is a bunch of energy
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being focused
into a single, tiny spot.
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And the question is:
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Is this crazy signal
we're seeing...
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doing that?
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Is it creating
some type of event
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that is something like Einstein,
you know, theor...
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was theorizing, and then...
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is like you see
in science-fiction movies?
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So, in other words,
what we're saying is that
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to us, standing here, this
could look like an orb to us.
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Or it could look like
a portal to us.
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We have all these
crazy gamma and neutrons.
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It could also create
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some of the weird other
RF signals that we're seeing.
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That's a really good point.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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In 2016,
I purchased Skinwalker Ranch
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from Robert Bigelow.
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Prior to transfer of ownership,
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Bigelow cautioned me that
we were dealing with forces
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that are very powerful,
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that are not easily understood
or characterized.
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There are amazing stories
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claiming that one of the most
interesting observations
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made by not only
Bigelow's team but others
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is the presence of portals
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that have appeared
in the area of the homesteads.
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Literally midair,
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they've seen truly a window
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into what appeared to be
another world-
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other skylines
or other landscapes
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that they could see
through those portals
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that-that are difficult
to describe.
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You realize how...
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- outlandish this whole thing...
- It sounds crazy and nuts.
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Absolutely crazy and nuts,
and this is the only theory
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- we've come up with yet.
- That encompasses all of...
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That-that-that everything
we've measured, heard, seen,
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stories, craziness,
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it all can be tied
into this explanation.
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But it's interesting that we've
got at least a hypothesis.
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Energy's coming from the Earth,
and it's getting focused
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- to a spot up there, but...
- Yeah.
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...a hypothesis
isn't worth anything
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unless you can create
an experiment
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to test that hypothesis.
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So we understand the hypothesis.
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I think we go and figure out
if the energy source
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may be coming
from inside the Earth.
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That's here
under Skinwalker Ranch.
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We should go and see
if we can measure
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these weird signals down there.
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We need to do
ground-penetrating radar.
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We've got to do resistivity
measurements out in the field.
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Now, there's
an experiment we could do.
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Yeah. It gives us
a place to start looking.
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TRAVIS:
So maybe that's it.
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Maybe the tremendous
energy source
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we would have to have
to produce this portal effect
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is located deep underground.
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That would validate
what Eric suspected all along.
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All right, so I say we quit
talking about it,
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and then we get up
and go start figuring out
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- what we got to do to do it.
- I agree.
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- All right, let's do this.
- Okay, cool. - Okay.
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TRAVIS: Because we don't know
if the strange radiation surges
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we've been getting are coming
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from high above the ranch
or below it,
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we've invited a team of experts
to come up here
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and conduct a series
of noninvasive tests.
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- How's it going?
- Good. How are you?
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- Good.
- That way,
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if there really is
something dangerous
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or life-threatening underground,
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we might be able to find out
what it is
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before we start digging.
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We haven't done experiments yet
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to look beneath the surface.
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- Okay.
- So, we've been doing
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some measurements
with these signals
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that we've been picking up,
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and we've kind of triangulated
a few hot spots,
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and this is the starting line.
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And anywhere there's a roadway,
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flat surface along all the way
from the gate on the east end
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to the fence on the west end,
just start mapping it out.
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Then we'll go from there
to the mesa,
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and then maybe out into the
field and around the homesteads.
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Okay.
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Since there is so much
varied area
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of Skinwalker Ranch to cover,
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we decided to use
two different methods
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to search below the surface.
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One is GPR,
or ground-penetrating radar,
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which works by sending
radio waves down into the earth
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that will bounce off of any
solid objects or structures.
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And soil resistivity,
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which does pretty much
the same thing,
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but it uses metal stakes
and wires
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to send electrical currents
down into the ground.
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So, what we should do
is kind of divide and conquer.
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I think, uh,
half of us will work
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on the ground-penetrating radar,
and the other half
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will do the resistivity
measurements.
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Truck's right here,
it's a good place to start.
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So just pull the equipment out,
and let's-let's just get going.
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- All right, sounds good.
- Let's get her out.
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- Let's get to it.
- ERIK: Here on the ranch,
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we have seen a correlation
between digging activities
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and some injuries
to individuals.
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So I've taken the position
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that invasive activities
like digging
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should be first justified
by less invasive methods.
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Come on back. Ho, ho, ho.
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ERIK: A good example of
that is the GPR survey
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and the resistivity
measurements.
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Those are the kinds of things
that put exercises like digging
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or drilling
on a more firm foundation.
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Particularly in view
of the fact that human safety
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and life is held in the balance.
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We've got everything loaded to
do the resistivity measurements.
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So, uh, why don't we take it
over there, and you guys
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are gonna continue
with the GPR, right?
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- Correct.
- All right.
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I gave them the flags.
Mark the spots
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if you find anything weird.
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All right. Let's load up.
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- Sounds good.
- Let's roll.
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I got shotgun.
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PHIL: So, guys,
what we'll be doing now
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is we're gonna be pulling this.
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Uh, this is our GX160.
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we're gonna be pulling it
behind this ATV.
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And we'll figure out
a suitable way to pull that.
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I think I've got an idea
of how we can do it
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- so it doesn't slide around.
- Right.
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Okay, and then we'll use
the dual-frequency system
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to do the homestead work.
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- Sounds great.
- Cool. All right.
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What we're going to do
is pull this latch up.
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And then what we'll do here
is we've got two power buttons.
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We've got a power button
on the monitor,
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and we have one down here
on the antenna,
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and that will fire
the system up.
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PHIL:
Oh, my gosh.
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This was fully charged,
so I'm... it's-it's a mystery.
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ERIK:
So, we can't start now?
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We actually can't start
with this system.
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At least with the-the battery
this low.
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ERIK: Why would it be
down in the red now?
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That's a good question,
because it...
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the system has to be on
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in order for it to utilize
those lithium-ion batteries.
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Uh, why don't we check
the other system?
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It was completely powered, too,
and let's just see
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- what the batteries look like on that.
- Yeah that's a good idea.
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ERIK: It's not uncommon
that we experience problems
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with battery-powered systems
on this property.
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Everything from mobile devices,
including our cell phones,
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our tablets, uh,
laptop computers,
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audio/video equipment,
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have experienced
some kind of an anomaly,
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as a result of some influence
that is prevalent on the ranch.
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Dude, I will tell
my phone battery just went...
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- (blows raspberry) - Your
battery's dead on your phone?
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00:14:01,383 --> 00:14:03,217
TRAVIS: Yeah.
Your battery's dead, too, ain't it?
320
00:14:03,218 --> 00:14:05,678
It shut off.
321
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,763
- Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch, right?
- Right.
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00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:11,350
I completely charged
these four batteries
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00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:14,520
last evening,
and now they're into the...
324
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to the yellow section.
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ERIK:
When have you seen that before?
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00:14:19,276 --> 00:14:21,486
I, quite frankly,
have not seen that before.
327
00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,656
ERIK: Hey, Bryant?
Come here, check this out.
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00:14:25,657 --> 00:14:27,449
So, Phil, would you like
to explain what you just...
329
00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:29,201
Right, we were getting
some highly unusual
330
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battery level there.
331
00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:33,205
Uh, we should be seeing
full power there,
332
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and we're seeing
about 50%, so...
333
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BRYANT: It's another damn
battery that's getting trashed.
334
00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:39,962
I guess we'll just
keep an eye on it.
335
00:14:39,963 --> 00:14:42,548
I guess you go
until it goes off.
336
00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,341
- All right.
- Yep.
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00:14:44,342 --> 00:14:47,886
ERIK: We've decided
to proceed by dragging
338
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one of the instruments
behind the UTV.
339
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So, what I did is I ran
a wire underneath here,
340
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attached to the body,
to hold this tight.
341
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- PHIL: Looks very solid to me.
- All right.
342
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- Let's go drag this thing.
- ERIK: Yeah?
343
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Just want you to see it.
344
00:15:05,405 --> 00:15:07,114
- ERIK: What is it doing?
- I don't know.
345
00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:08,782
It's just been...
it's just been doing this
346
00:15:08,783 --> 00:15:10,284
for the last, you know,
couple minutes.
347
00:15:10,285 --> 00:15:12,369
I just ran up here
so you could see it.
348
00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:15,080
It was in my contacts, it tried
calling a couple of people,
349
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um, and then it's been
messing around in my camera
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00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,585
the last couple minutes.
351
00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:22,589
- When did this start?
- About two, three minutes ago.
352
00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:26,383
ERIK: It's as if someone
was pushing the buttons
353
00:15:26,384 --> 00:15:28,093
and, uh, switching
between applications
354
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and sending messages
and making phone calls
355
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,973
as fast as anyone
could possibly do it.
356
00:15:32,974 --> 00:15:35,142
Dude, that is crazy.
357
00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:37,187
(laughing)
358
00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:42,817
We're laughing at it, but
I'm not sure that we should be.
359
00:15:48,990 --> 00:15:51,992
TRAVIS: While Erik and Dragon
are working with Phil Oviatt
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to run GPR from the command
center to the old homesteads,
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00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:58,123
Jim, Tom and I are heading out
with Zach Zyla
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00:15:58,124 --> 00:16:00,167
to do a soil resistivity survey.
363
00:16:00,168 --> 00:16:05,130
So, Zach, we're interested
in this field out here.
364
00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:08,133
There's some rumors
and stories and myths
365
00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:09,968
and all sorts of things.
366
00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:13,597
There might be
underground facilities
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00:16:13,598 --> 00:16:17,184
or bases or other stuff
inside this field out here.
368
00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:18,477
- ZACH: Yep.
- So, if there's something
369
00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:20,813
besides a field in it,
let us know.
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00:16:20,814 --> 00:16:22,773
ZACH:
All right.
371
00:16:22,774 --> 00:16:24,817
TRAVIS: All right,
so what do we need to do to get started?
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00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:26,819
ZACH: All right, well let's, uh,
get the gear out of the truck
373
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and, uh, start
laying out the lines.
374
00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:30,322
All right.
375
00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:31,532
All right, so what goes first?
376
00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:33,242
ZACH:
So, every six feet, we're gonna
377
00:16:33,243 --> 00:16:34,827
- place one of these into the ground.
- All right.
378
00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:36,161
And then you're gonna start.
379
00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:37,746
And you're gonna want
to pound it in
380
00:16:37,747 --> 00:16:38,831
about three-quarters of the way
381
00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:40,374
so we get good contact
into the ground.
382
00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:41,834
- TRAVIS: All right.
- Next,
383
00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:43,752
you're gonna take one of these
connector cables
384
00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:46,088
and connect it to the base.
385
00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:48,841
And we're gonna keep moving it
along all the way to the end.
386
00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:51,301
You know what, you drive stakes,
I'll clip wires. How's that?
387
00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:53,096
SEGALA:
I could do that.
388
00:17:00,437 --> 00:17:03,021
ZACH: All right,
so let me get started.
389
00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,858
How quick will it take us
to actually see something, Zach?
390
00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:07,526
Hopefully, not more
than about ten minutes.
391
00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:08,527
Okay.
392
00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:09,862
ZACH:
All right.
393
00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:11,029
The line is hot,
394
00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:12,531
so everyone please be careful.
395
00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:13,866
It's about to start measuring,
and hopefully
396
00:17:13,867 --> 00:17:15,200
we can get some, uh, good data.
397
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:16,410
All right, well, good.
398
00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:17,996
Uh, I guess we just wait.
399
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:24,376
ERIK: Am I holding a speed
that you like there?
400
00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:26,421
- PHIL: Yeah, you're good.
- Okay.
401
00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:29,423
It's gonna get
a little bumpy here.
402
00:17:29,424 --> 00:17:31,258
BRYANT: Yeah,
I think it goes without saying
403
00:17:31,259 --> 00:17:32,885
just be careful
going through the dips.
404
00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:34,762
ERIK:
Yeah.
405
00:17:34,763 --> 00:17:37,097
That thing works like a champ.
406
00:17:37,098 --> 00:17:39,517
It does.
407
00:17:41,895 --> 00:17:43,979
Well, I'm anxious
to get up by the homestead.
408
00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:45,731
- Well, we're just about...
- I know, I know,
409
00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:47,233
we're getting close.
410
00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:53,113
What was that?
411
00:17:53,114 --> 00:17:55,741
PHIL:
I don't know.
412
00:17:55,742 --> 00:17:58,077
Could be...
413
00:17:58,078 --> 00:18:00,079
I don't know what that is.
414
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,915
I mean, we certainly see
a difference
415
00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:04,917
than this garbage
we've been seeing the whole way.
416
00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:06,210
- BRYANT: Right.
- ERIK: Yeah, yeah.
417
00:18:06,211 --> 00:18:08,003
- That is unusual.
- Yeah, it is.
418
00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:10,255
ERIK: So, as we're dragging
the device behind us,
419
00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:12,424
Phil noticed
that there was a structure.
420
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,176
Could have been
something mundane.
421
00:18:14,177 --> 00:18:16,553
Could have something to do with
the utilities on the property.
422
00:18:16,554 --> 00:18:19,431
So, for Phil's benefit,
423
00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:22,101
- you see that roof over there?
- Yes.
424
00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:24,937
BRYANT: Right in this grove
of trees up on the left.
425
00:18:24,938 --> 00:18:26,772
ERIK:
We call it Homestead Number Two.
426
00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,733
PHIL:
Okay, got it, got it.
427
00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:32,236
Now, uh,
look at this right here.
428
00:18:32,237 --> 00:18:33,278
ERIK:
Okay.
429
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,489
Whoa! I see that, I see that.
430
00:18:35,490 --> 00:18:37,783
How do you interpret that...
that feature?
431
00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:40,119
PHIL: Well,
it looks like a dome feature.
432
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:43,622
ERIK: Then we see another
interesting anomaly
433
00:18:43,623 --> 00:18:45,457
in the Homestead Two area,
434
00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:48,627
and we don't know
what the origin of those...
435
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,796
structures really is.
436
00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:51,839
Look.
437
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,257
Oh, wow!
438
00:18:53,258 --> 00:18:55,843
- What-what does this?
- I cannot tell you
439
00:18:55,844 --> 00:18:58,053
what's causing that.
Man, it could be...
440
00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:01,223
it could be something buried,
you know, metal.
441
00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:03,017
- Really?
- Yes.
442
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,944
PHIL: All right,
let's halt the vehicle. I...
443
00:19:13,945 --> 00:19:16,029
- Another dome, you think?
- Another dome.
444
00:19:16,030 --> 00:19:17,489
All right.
445
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,449
PHIL: I'm looking laterally
in the data,
446
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,660
- Uh-huh.
- and it's been fairly consistent
447
00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,745
- through this whole area,
- Uh-huh.
448
00:19:23,746 --> 00:19:25,998
except we've seen features at...
449
00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,083
several different depths.
450
00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:29,585
But you say it could just be
451
00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:31,003
- a geological feature?
- It could be,
452
00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:32,963
but it-it...
doesn't look like it to me.
453
00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:35,507
It looks anomalous.
454
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:37,217
We'll see
if we can duplicate that
455
00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:39,094
- on the way back.
- Okay.
456
00:19:39,095 --> 00:19:40,554
It'll be interesting
to have a look
457
00:19:40,555 --> 00:19:41,889
- at all of these.
- Sure. Okay.
458
00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,807
- Every one of the patterns.
- Okay.
459
00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:46,727
You want to reshoot it
all the way back?
460
00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:49,438
- Right. Just to-to verify what we've seen.
- Okay.
461
00:19:49,439 --> 00:19:53,233
You know, I was really excited
just to get any data at all.
462
00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:55,068
You know, when we're talking
about the possibility
463
00:19:55,069 --> 00:19:56,945
of metal structure,
of course it's very exciting.
464
00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:59,364
But we need to go back
in the other direction
465
00:19:59,365 --> 00:20:01,658
to verify that we're not
just seeing some artifact
466
00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:03,411
but that what
we're seeing is real.
467
00:20:05,455 --> 00:20:09,082
BRYANT: So, right here is
one of the domes we measured.
468
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,335
- Oh, yeah.
- It's not quite as evident
469
00:20:11,336 --> 00:20:13,213
as it was.
470
00:20:14,672 --> 00:20:17,257
But you can sure see it.
471
00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:19,134
And we had another one
of those up here, too.
472
00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:20,177
ERIK:
That's right.
473
00:20:20,178 --> 00:20:23,138
- Okay.
- Uh... yeah.
474
00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:24,556
- There it comes. There it is.
- You seeing it?
475
00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,683
There it is. Oh, my gosh.
476
00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:28,644
- That-that's exactly what we saw before.
- Okay.
477
00:20:28,645 --> 00:20:29,978
- Perfect.
- Very distinct.
478
00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:31,772
ERIK:
It's always exciting
479
00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:34,233
when you have anomalous data
and you go back and take it
480
00:20:34,234 --> 00:20:36,443
a second time,
and you get the same thing.
481
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,487
And that's
exactly what we've seen.
482
00:20:38,488 --> 00:20:42,532
We're seeing very interesting
multilayer structures
483
00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:45,994
at depths of anywhere from
eight feet below the surface
484
00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:49,249
to 24, 25 feet
below the surface.
485
00:20:50,208 --> 00:20:52,834
PHIL:
All right.
486
00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:55,629
Stop right here, Erik.
487
00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:56,922
(engine shuts off)
488
00:20:56,923 --> 00:20:59,092
- Interesting.
- Oh, wow.
489
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,679
- I can see a couple of parallel
features right here. - Uh-huh.
490
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,973
We saw this in both directions.
491
00:21:05,974 --> 00:21:08,642
I- I mean, you may be seeing
the top and the base
492
00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:10,143
of a possible tunnel.
493
00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:12,562
And it opens up as you move
this direction.
494
00:21:12,563 --> 00:21:16,942
So, we're looking at something
quite large in here.
495
00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:20,195
Oh, wow. I hate to point it out,
but, you know, this is exactly
496
00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:21,822
where we were
when we had the difficulty
497
00:21:21,823 --> 00:21:23,657
with the drone survey.
498
00:21:23,658 --> 00:21:25,200
- So, let's get going.
- BRYANT: Yeah.
499
00:21:25,201 --> 00:21:27,536
ERIK: This is an area
where we did try
500
00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:28,704
drone thermography measurements,
501
00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,539
but we were not successful,
502
00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:33,583
due to some mysterious
electromagnetic interference.
503
00:21:33,584 --> 00:21:35,919
DERRICK:
No connection.
504
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,548
We are in one
of the most interesting
505
00:21:39,549 --> 00:21:42,592
and notorious regions
of the ranch.
506
00:21:42,593 --> 00:21:44,136
This is Homestead Two.
507
00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:45,929
I'm wondering
if this is coincidence.
508
00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:47,055
Clear as mud, Erik.
509
00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:48,808
It's what this place is.
510
00:21:53,896 --> 00:21:55,897
ZACHARY:
Here we go.
511
00:21:55,898 --> 00:21:57,441
So, this is the raw data
512
00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,443
plotted over, you know,
a 2-D grid.
513
00:21:59,444 --> 00:22:01,361
So, blues are going to be
more conductive,
514
00:22:01,362 --> 00:22:03,280
and reds are going to be
more resistive.
515
00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:05,115
TRAVIS: More resistive
might mean a hole.
516
00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:06,575
ZACHARY:
Yep.
517
00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,578
- So, that-that could be a cave?
- Potentially.
518
00:22:09,579 --> 00:22:12,164
We really need
to post-process it,
519
00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:13,540
um, and run it through
an inversion
520
00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:15,208
so that we can really say
what's going on.
521
00:22:15,209 --> 00:22:16,460
TRAVIS:
Once you do the post-processing,
522
00:22:16,461 --> 00:22:18,128
- then we'll know more about it.
- Yep.
523
00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:20,922
ERIK (over radio):
Hey, Tom, you copy?
524
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:23,091
THOMAS:
Yeah, go ahead.
525
00:22:23,092 --> 00:22:25,552
ERIK: Hey, we're getting some
really interesting readings
526
00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:27,637
out here at Homestead Two.
527
00:22:27,638 --> 00:22:29,264
I'd like to ask you to just
drop whatever you're doing
528
00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,224
and bring some
of Phil's extra gear out here
529
00:22:31,225 --> 00:22:33,602
so we can take
a closer look at it.
530
00:22:33,603 --> 00:22:35,395
THOMAS:
Okay, I'll grab the guys,
531
00:22:35,396 --> 00:22:36,772
and we'll grab the equipment
and head that way.
532
00:22:36,773 --> 00:22:38,315
ERIK:
Copy.
533
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:40,192
Okay, just leave this,
and we'll just head over?
534
00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,401
Yeah, we'll...
I'll pack this in,
535
00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:42,737
and you guys can head over now.
536
00:22:43,905 --> 00:22:45,489
I don't know, man.
537
00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:47,282
- It-it's...
- Interesting area.
538
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:48,784
It's too much of a coincidence
all the time.
539
00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:49,910
Mm-hmm.
540
00:22:49,911 --> 00:22:51,411
BRYANT:
There they are.
541
00:22:51,412 --> 00:22:53,039
That was quick.
542
00:22:54,916 --> 00:22:56,042
See what they got.
543
00:22:57,418 --> 00:22:59,586
- What's up, fellas?
- TRAVIS: Hey.
544
00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:01,254
BRYANT:
You said if you come across
545
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:02,923
anything in-interesting
or intriguing,
546
00:23:02,924 --> 00:23:04,633
we should call you.
547
00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:06,676
- Yeah? You find something?
- So, that's what we did, plus...
548
00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:09,262
We-we found some dome features,
549
00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:11,932
anywhere from eight to 25 feet,
550
00:23:11,933 --> 00:23:14,935
that are almost parallel
with this structure over here.
551
00:23:14,936 --> 00:23:17,687
When you say "dome,"
are you talking a formation
552
00:23:17,688 --> 00:23:20,232
- or an opening or what?
- Yes, like a... like a...
553
00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:21,983
It almost looked
as though there was
554
00:23:21,984 --> 00:23:24,903
the top of the... of a tunnel
and the base of a tunnel.
555
00:23:24,904 --> 00:23:27,823
- Oh, a tunnel?
- Yes, and it's interesting
556
00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:30,283
that it's parallel to this
structure right here, as well.
557
00:23:30,284 --> 00:23:32,035
That's why we called you guys.
558
00:23:32,036 --> 00:23:34,704
We wanted you over here and...
and to check this area out.
559
00:23:34,705 --> 00:23:36,540
See if we can see
any correlation.
560
00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:38,375
Does it appear jagged,
or does it appear smooth?
561
00:23:38,376 --> 00:23:39,418
PHIL:
It's smooth.
562
00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:41,002
So... so, we're-we're seeing
563
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:43,672
almost a domal-type feature,
and then it pinches
564
00:23:43,673 --> 00:23:45,466
into a... almost a point.
565
00:23:46,676 --> 00:23:47,884
BRYANT:
It looks more like
566
00:23:47,885 --> 00:23:49,594
a hollow opening than anything.
567
00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:52,222
What I would suggest is to...
is to scan this area
568
00:23:52,223 --> 00:23:53,557
with the wide range
569
00:23:53,558 --> 00:23:55,016
and see if we see
any correlation
570
00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:56,518
between the... between this area
571
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,311
- and that area.
- TRAVIS: Yeah.
572
00:23:58,312 --> 00:24:00,272
Well, let's get the equipment
out and let's do it, right?
573
00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:02,441
- Grab the wheels.
- You got it? - I got it.
574
00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:04,025
SEGALA:
For a very long time,
575
00:24:04,026 --> 00:24:05,777
there's been a lot
of strange things
576
00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:07,237
going on at Homestead Two.
577
00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:09,823
And what I want to do
is dig around the place
578
00:24:09,824 --> 00:24:11,408
because I believe
there's a possibility
579
00:24:11,409 --> 00:24:13,410
that there's something unknown
580
00:24:13,411 --> 00:24:15,912
under the ground
that seems to be seeping up
581
00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:17,330
or causing different...
582
00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:19,541
causing different, uh,
phenomena to happen.
583
00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:21,877
- So, let's turn it on.
- SEGALA: But there's been
584
00:24:21,878 --> 00:24:24,546
a lot of pushback
on digging on the property.
585
00:24:24,547 --> 00:24:27,090
So, of course, with GPR,
that gives us
586
00:24:27,091 --> 00:24:30,010
an idea of what
might be under there
587
00:24:30,011 --> 00:24:31,553
without really
disturbing the ground
588
00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:34,347
and bringing up anything
that might be toxic underneath.
589
00:24:34,348 --> 00:24:36,183
PHIL:
Okay, we're ready.
590
00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,476
BRYANT:
Hey, Phil?
591
00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:39,227
Sorry to interrupt you,
but, I mean, I know
592
00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:41,062
we want to get up
on the mesa and do that.
593
00:24:41,063 --> 00:24:42,647
I mean, we're getting late
in the day,
594
00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,733
and I want to make sure
that we utilize all the time
595
00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:47,652
we have with you gentlemen.
Can we split up teams here?
596
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:50,530
- Like, Zach go with one of us and
you go with one group? - Absolutely.
597
00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:52,532
- Okay. - Yeah, Phil,
why don't you go up to the mesa?
598
00:24:52,533 --> 00:24:53,950
- Sounds good.
- You guys okay with that?
599
00:24:53,951 --> 00:24:55,327
- Yeah, I'm good with that...
- All right.
600
00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:56,828
...'cause I want to see
what you guys have
601
00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:58,330
- already seen here, so...
- That makes sense.
602
00:24:58,331 --> 00:25:00,290
- Let's take it and... and get it going.
- All right.
603
00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:02,959
TRAVIS: Now that the wide-range
system has been recharged,
604
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,630
Jim, Zach and I are going to
run GPR scans at Homestead Two.
605
00:25:06,631 --> 00:25:09,758
That's where a lot of very weird
phenomena have been reported.
606
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,093
And while we're doing that,
607
00:25:12,094 --> 00:25:14,054
the rest of the guys
are going to run
608
00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,931
some scans
up on top of the mesa.
609
00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:17,682
BRYANT:
Erik loves this mesa.
610
00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:18,808
ERIK:
I do, I guess.
611
00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:20,520
Once I get to the top.
612
00:25:24,106 --> 00:25:25,565
TRAVIS:
Well, so, guys,
613
00:25:25,566 --> 00:25:27,442
what I think is,
if you can get right there,
614
00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:29,152
kind of hug the tree line
and go due south
615
00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:31,863
toward that dead tree...
616
00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,242
I think we can go through
over here.
617
00:25:36,994 --> 00:25:38,620
Hug this bush right here
the best you can.
618
00:25:38,621 --> 00:25:41,581
The ground-penetrating
radar device we're using
619
00:25:41,582 --> 00:25:43,875
was more mobile, so we started
pushing it through the woods
620
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,460
and around the homestead.
621
00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:48,880
Just kind of use the house
as a guide for the line.
622
00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:52,425
And that allows us to do
a much deeper investigation.
623
00:25:52,426 --> 00:25:55,095
That's probably far enough.
624
00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:57,097
- Yeah.
- Did you see anything on that run?
625
00:25:57,098 --> 00:25:58,723
ZACH:
Uh, let me check.
626
00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:00,559
Oh, holy... Look at this.
627
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,185
ZACH:
Oh, wow.
628
00:26:02,186 --> 00:26:03,437
SEGURA:
There's this big...
629
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:07,023
Oh, wow.
630
00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:09,360
That's crazy.
631
00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:14,489
What this looks like is
anything on that run? e
632
00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,199
ZACH:
Uh, let me check.
633
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,368
- Oh, holy... Look at this. See?
- Oh, wow.
634
00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:20,328
TRAVIS: While conducting
a ground-penetrating
635
00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:22,330
radar test here
at Homestead Two,
636
00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:25,667
Jim, Zach and I have just found
more evidence of some kind
637
00:26:25,668 --> 00:26:29,337
of large object or structure
buried several feet underground.
638
00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:31,923
SEGALA: So,
there's this big anomaly here.
639
00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,508
- Oh, wow.
- That's maybe
640
00:26:33,509 --> 00:26:35,468
- at five feet, four feet?
- Yeah, it's...
641
00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:37,095
TRAVIS: So, this is
the structure, right?
642
00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:38,305
But look there, right there.
643
00:26:38,306 --> 00:26:39,514
It's like a-an entrance
644
00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:41,891
or a pipe or something going up.
645
00:26:41,892 --> 00:26:43,602
SEGALA:
It's on the same line
646
00:26:43,603 --> 00:26:45,395
as the well.
647
00:26:45,396 --> 00:26:47,981
TRAVIS: And who's to
say it's really a well?
648
00:26:47,982 --> 00:26:50,358
Heck, it could be a tunnel
entrance, for all we know.
649
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,360
I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
650
00:26:52,361 --> 00:26:53,778
Don't lift it up.
651
00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:56,239
- Why not?
- Because the incident
652
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,326
that happened with Brandon Fugal
was right here.
653
00:26:59,327 --> 00:27:01,703
There was this guy
that came in with him.
654
00:27:01,704 --> 00:27:05,124
He lifted this up, and that's
when he went catatonic.
655
00:27:06,709 --> 00:27:08,918
BRANDON:
Several years ago,
656
00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:11,880
we were escorting
some visitors on the site,
657
00:27:11,881 --> 00:27:14,132
and when we entered
the old homestead area,
658
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:16,426
we all piled out of the UTV
659
00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:20,388
to circle around the front
of one of the old homesteads.
660
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:24,392
And I looked around and found
661
00:27:24,393 --> 00:27:26,561
that one of the visitors
was absent.
662
00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:29,606
As I circled around
the back end of the homestead,
663
00:27:29,607 --> 00:27:32,317
I saw this person
664
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:36,071
fully upright
with his eyes closed.
665
00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:38,823
- Hey!
- And as I yelled his name
666
00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:40,909
to somehow get his attention
667
00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:43,620
and see what was happening,
his eyes fluttered open.
668
00:27:43,621 --> 00:27:45,872
He says,
"Well, that was strange."
669
00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:47,499
I said, "Well,
what do you mean?"
670
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:51,669
He says, "I was paralyzed
and then went to sleep.
671
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:54,631
How long have I been out?"
672
00:27:54,632 --> 00:27:56,466
And I said,
"Well, it's-it's probably
673
00:27:56,467 --> 00:27:58,343
been about ten minutes."
674
00:27:58,344 --> 00:28:00,346
He was shocked.
675
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:10,939
- And he did what now, Jim?
- He lifted it up.
676
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,983
But I think,
before you open that up
677
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,695
or do anything like that,
I would definitely...
678
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,155
Or maybe not.
679
00:28:19,156 --> 00:28:21,117
TRAVIS:
What the crap is that?
680
00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:25,537
It's filled with something.
681
00:28:25,538 --> 00:28:27,914
All right, well, look, if you
want to look down in there.
682
00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:29,624
It's just filled
with crappy water.
683
00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:32,210
I mean, muddy water or whatever.
Maybe it's a septic tank.
684
00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,796
SEGALA:
Seriously polluted.
685
00:28:34,797 --> 00:28:36,799
TRAVIS:
Well, it looks pretty bad.
686
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,726
It stinks, though. Ooh!
687
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,063
So, there's something in there.
688
00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:58,486
You know, I don't know
if I want to say it or not,
689
00:28:58,487 --> 00:29:00,363
but I-I feel like a,
I don't know,
690
00:29:00,364 --> 00:29:02,657
I've got a little bit of a
headache or something happening.
691
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:05,243
So, why-why don't we
get out of here?
692
00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:06,578
Maybe the smell,
maybe some mildew
693
00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:07,871
or mold or something here.
694
00:29:07,872 --> 00:29:09,747
So, let's, uh,
I say let's get back out
695
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,417
to the road
where there's more air flow.
696
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:18,131
I started getting this headache
and this nausea feeling.
697
00:29:18,132 --> 00:29:20,592
I wasn't sure what it was,
but I realized, you know,
698
00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:22,385
I've got this dosimeter
in my pocket.
699
00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:24,971
All right, well, maybe we should
700
00:29:24,972 --> 00:29:27,140
check our dosimeters
or whatever.
701
00:29:27,141 --> 00:29:28,476
Yeah.
702
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:32,020
(beeping)
703
00:29:32,021 --> 00:29:34,063
TRAVIS:
Holy... Mine's beeping.
704
00:29:34,064 --> 00:29:35,398
Your max dose rate's about 120?
705
00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:36,774
Yeah, its 120-something.
706
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,943
That's pretty high.
That's pretty high.
707
00:29:38,944 --> 00:29:41,529
TRAVIS:
This is really scary.
708
00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,406
My dosimeter device,
which measures exposure
709
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:46,951
to ionizing radiation,
is showing that I just got hit
710
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,953
with 120 millirads per second.
711
00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:50,580
That's like getting 20,000
712
00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:52,957
full-body X-ray scans
at an airport,
713
00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:54,584
which is five times more
714
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:56,711
than the legal limit
allows in a year.
715
00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:58,922
So, I just accumulated
a semi-dangerous dose.
716
00:29:58,923 --> 00:30:01,591
So, we're reading
the exact same amount of rate,
717
00:30:01,592 --> 00:30:04,511
but this thing accumulated more.
718
00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:06,721
Well, and I was the one
that stood over
719
00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:09,265
- that hole when we opened it up.
- Yep.
720
00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:12,268
TRAVIS: We were just exposed
to ionizing radiation.
721
00:30:12,269 --> 00:30:13,978
- Wow!
- Now, I got to tell you that
722
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,897
- it's not a lethal dose.
- It's not a lethal dose.
723
00:30:15,898 --> 00:30:17,732
But it's an accumulated dose
that you're not gonna see
724
00:30:17,733 --> 00:30:19,484
out in the middle of nowhere,
guaranteed.
725
00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:21,236
Yep. And, well, and it's enough
that they're saying,
726
00:30:21,237 --> 00:30:22,904
"Hey, it's dangerous.
Get out of that place
727
00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:24,489
- and don't say in that place"
- Yeah.
728
00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:28,826
So we need to stop the GPR.
Let's load the stuff up.
729
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,079
- All right.
- Cool.
730
00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:35,458
TRAVIS: What happened at
Homestead Two really shook me up.
731
00:30:35,459 --> 00:30:38,461
And then, the next day,
I noticed weird red marks
732
00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:40,088
on my hand and my head.
733
00:30:40,089 --> 00:30:42,674
I went to my doctor
to get checked out,
734
00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:45,843
and he confirmed
they were radiation burns.
735
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:48,680
I'm okay now,
but I'm really anxious to get
736
00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:51,558
to the final results
of our GPR scans to find out
737
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,603
if it's something
in the ground that caused this.
738
00:31:01,819 --> 00:31:05,196
PHIL: Okay, we're here to,
uh, discuss the processing
739
00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:08,199
of the GPR data that
we collected out in the field.
740
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,368
Uh, I took a look
at all the data,
741
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:13,788
and I'm really gonna concentrate
in and around Homestead Two.
742
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:16,082
So, that's what we're gonna be
looking at on the screen today.
743
00:31:16,083 --> 00:31:19,335
Okay. Well, let's see it.
744
00:31:19,336 --> 00:31:22,046
All right, let's take a look
at the data here.
745
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:24,382
See, here's where we started
again from west going east.
746
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,426
- TRAVIS: Right.
- It's just noisy data.
747
00:31:26,427 --> 00:31:30,179
And now were seeing
these features in more detail.
748
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,599
- TRAVIS: Oh, wow!
- ERIK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
749
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,310
Basically, looks like para...
upside down parabolas.
750
00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:36,894
Right, they're-they're
hyperbolas.
751
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:41,357
Now, what creates the hyperbolas
are objects.
752
00:31:41,358 --> 00:31:43,818
A lot of things can cause those.
753
00:31:43,819 --> 00:31:47,405
Uh, boulders can cause
those types of features.
754
00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:50,033
Tunneling can cause
that type of feature.
755
00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:52,118
TRAVIS: Gosh, it goes
all the way as far down
756
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,369
- as 25, 30 feet.
- Right.
757
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:55,079
Well, it's clearly an anomaly.
758
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,748
Yes.
759
00:31:56,749 --> 00:31:58,584
I'll tell you
what it looks like to me.
760
00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:01,669
Look at this.
761
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,046
Here's the top point.
762
00:32:03,047 --> 00:32:04,213
Right there. Right?
763
00:32:04,214 --> 00:32:05,174
Here's another point.
764
00:32:05,175 --> 00:32:06,924
There's one here.
765
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,677
And then you could say maybe
it kind of starts over here.
766
00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,679
And so there's
your connecting the dots.
767
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,556
Connect all these peaks,
768
00:32:13,557 --> 00:32:15,808
and it looks to me
like you got a football shape.
769
00:32:15,809 --> 00:32:17,352
Well, give me a pen, then.
770
00:32:17,353 --> 00:32:18,936
All right.
Actually, tear me off
771
00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:20,688
about three more
pieces of paper.
772
00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:23,775
So, there's the spot
for the peak,
773
00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:27,195
probably here,
and down here on the bottom.
774
00:32:27,196 --> 00:32:29,947
It's, like, here, here, here.
775
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:31,908
There's another one
kind of down here, lower.
776
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:33,910
So now let's lay it
on the table,
777
00:32:33,911 --> 00:32:36,038
and we'll draw...
we're gonna connect the dots.
778
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,917
All right.
So, guys, if we look,
779
00:32:40,918 --> 00:32:43,544
there's something that has...
780
00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:46,464
surface points.
781
00:32:46,465 --> 00:32:49,050
Something...
782
00:32:49,051 --> 00:32:50,803
along those lines.
783
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,262
BRYANT:
Wow.
784
00:32:53,263 --> 00:32:54,639
TRAVIS:
I marked the high
785
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,683
and the low points
of the parabolas
786
00:32:56,684 --> 00:32:58,726
that we saw on the screen.
787
00:32:58,727 --> 00:33:00,937
And once I connected
all the dots,
788
00:33:00,938 --> 00:33:03,606
the size and shape of
the object we found underground
789
00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:06,317
became clear-
it looked like a giant football
790
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:08,069
or a saucer.
791
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:10,947
- I like the shape of it.
- BRYANT: And...
792
00:33:10,948 --> 00:33:12,949
it's almost at the start
of Homestead Two
793
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:14,701
to the end of Homestead Two.
794
00:33:14,702 --> 00:33:17,495
This thing is...
795
00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:19,248
a thousand feet long.
796
00:33:22,751 --> 00:33:25,504
Wow. I wasn't expecting
to see that today.
797
00:33:32,052 --> 00:33:35,304
TRAVIS: What this looks like
is a two-story facility.
798
00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:37,557
This thing is...
799
00:33:37,558 --> 00:33:38,975
a thousand feet long.
800
00:33:38,976 --> 00:33:40,309
That's huge.
801
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:41,769
THOMAS:
That's significant.
802
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:43,563
TRAVIS:
We have a thousand-foot-long,
803
00:33:43,564 --> 00:33:45,398
oval-shaped object
804
00:33:45,399 --> 00:33:47,900
that appears to be buried
underground at Homestead Two.
805
00:33:47,901 --> 00:33:50,153
Now, this is the same place
806
00:33:50,154 --> 00:33:51,863
where a lot
of bizarre happenings
807
00:33:51,864 --> 00:33:54,824
and even UFO sightings have
been reported over the years.
808
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,160
So the question obviously is:
809
00:33:57,161 --> 00:33:58,828
Are they related?
810
00:33:58,829 --> 00:34:00,371
Right here...
811
00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:03,124
that's "X" marks the spot.
812
00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:05,209
That's-that's, like, 15 feet
below the surface or something.
813
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:07,879
And we drill into that,
814
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,883
and we'll know, is it rock,
is it metal, is it... whatever.
815
00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:14,886
And so we got to...
we got to dig there.
816
00:34:14,887 --> 00:34:16,846
Or drill, at least,
take a core sample.
817
00:34:16,847 --> 00:34:19,348
Well, you're gonna have to get
Brandon to sign off on that.
818
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:22,310
- Well, I-I understand that.
- I-I always get painted as...
819
00:34:22,311 --> 00:34:24,604
the guy that's
the anti-digging guy,
820
00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:26,898
and look, I'm interested
to know what's there, too,
821
00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:28,483
but at the end of the day,
822
00:34:28,484 --> 00:34:30,694
that was one of Brandon's
big mandates to me.
823
00:34:32,696 --> 00:34:35,239
BRYANT: Looking at that
interesting shape we found,
824
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,200
the knee-jerk reaction is
we need to dig
825
00:34:37,201 --> 00:34:38,701
and find out what that thing is.
826
00:34:38,702 --> 00:34:40,620
It could be amazing or whatever.
827
00:34:40,621 --> 00:34:42,955
My first reaction is,
"Wait a minute."
828
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:47,084
We have radiation in the area,
and we don't know what this is,
829
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,921
and you pile that on top
of the whole "don't dig" lore
830
00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:51,297
about this place.
831
00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:53,466
I mean,
Thomas had a major injury
832
00:34:53,467 --> 00:34:55,802
that almost took his life.
833
00:34:55,803 --> 00:34:58,262
Travis was exposed to radiation.
834
00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:00,765
The last thing I'm gonna do
is just say, "Hey, yeah,
835
00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,850
"let's head out there
and start digging up the road
836
00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:04,310
and see what's down there."
837
00:35:04,311 --> 00:35:07,355
I'm extremely sensitive
to what's going on right now,
838
00:35:07,356 --> 00:35:09,816
between what happened to you
the other night
839
00:35:09,817 --> 00:35:11,359
when we were camping again,
840
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,319
what Travis experienced.
841
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,989
Certainly, I don't see the data
the same way you do.
842
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:19,117
I'd like to see
what your opinion is.
843
00:35:19,118 --> 00:35:20,952
- I think there's...
- You're the professional in this.
844
00:35:20,953 --> 00:35:23,412
- Right. I think, from what...
- I don't have an opinion, Jim?
845
00:35:23,413 --> 00:35:26,749
- Is that what this is?
- PHIL: I think,
846
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,585
from what I see here,
I would absolutely see this
847
00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:32,338
as being an anomalous area,
is what I would say.
848
00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:34,215
Just being... When you say
"anomalous," different than
849
00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:36,217
- the rest of the area.
- Different than the rest
850
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:38,177
of the area,
that we didn't see, or...
851
00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:40,721
nine-tenths of the road
that we went down.
852
00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:43,266
Well, I think we take this
to Brandon
853
00:35:43,267 --> 00:35:46,269
and tell him the whole story,
Dragon, and say...
854
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:48,187
You guys better take it,
'cause apparently,
855
00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:50,731
because I'm not a PhD,
I don't have a **** opinion
856
00:35:50,732 --> 00:35:51,942
at the table.
857
00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:57,405
Look, I care about you guys.
858
00:35:57,406 --> 00:35:59,574
You know, I care about you.
859
00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:01,742
If... if I didn't like you,
I would just say,
860
00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:03,744
"Fine, you know what,
I'll be at the front gate.
861
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:06,581
You guys go dig. Just keep me
the hell away from this..."
862
00:36:06,582 --> 00:36:09,750
I'm sorry that I kind of
blew up there a little bit,
863
00:36:09,751 --> 00:36:11,794
but it's just
because I'm sensitive,
864
00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,713
especially now...
865
00:36:13,714 --> 00:36:16,507
that all this stuff
has started happening.
866
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,552
And I'm sorry,
going back to your analogy,
867
00:36:19,553 --> 00:36:21,304
I don't want to poke
a hornets' nest
868
00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:23,139
that has radioactive hornets
come flying out.
869
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:25,850
- I already been stung once by it, right?
- Yeah, I know.
870
00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:29,187
To that point, if we're going
down two feet and we're testing,
871
00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:31,981
and two feet and we're testing,
if that is the case,
872
00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:35,026
- those levels are gonna be going
up, and we can stop. - Absolutely.
873
00:36:35,027 --> 00:36:37,653
- We'll see it every time.
- And if Brandon
874
00:36:37,654 --> 00:36:41,282
looks at the data and says,
"Okay, I will sign off on this,"
875
00:36:41,283 --> 00:36:42,783
you're good with it,
then, Bryant?
876
00:36:42,784 --> 00:36:44,452
- Is that what you're saying?
- He's-he's my boss.
877
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,120
But I'm-I'm just trying
to get a read
878
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:47,705
for where you are personally.
879
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,666
If he signs off on it,
are you comfortable with it?
880
00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,293
SEGALA: 'Cause you're
ultimately responsible...
881
00:36:52,294 --> 00:36:54,295
Look, I... like I said,
I just answer to him.
882
00:36:54,296 --> 00:36:56,881
- No, but you're... - So,
if that's what he wants to do, then...
883
00:36:56,882 --> 00:36:59,592
BRYANT: You know, I had my points,
those guys had their points.
884
00:36:59,593 --> 00:37:01,344
You know, we weren't totally
in agreement,
885
00:37:01,345 --> 00:37:03,262
so it was time
to get on the phone
886
00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:04,805
and get Brandon up to speed
887
00:37:04,806 --> 00:37:07,016
with what we found
and get his take on things.
888
00:37:07,017 --> 00:37:09,894
Zach, Phil, thank you so much
for coming out.
889
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:11,979
- These are fantastic data.
- Thank y'all.
890
00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:14,065
- Thanks, guys.
- Thank you. - Appreciate it.
891
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,983
TRAVIS:
All right, let's call Brandon
892
00:37:15,984 --> 00:37:18,570
and let Brandon make
the decision.
893
00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:26,494
(phone rings)
894
00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:28,871
- Hey.
- BRYANT: Hey, Brandon.
895
00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:31,040
It's, uh,
Bryant and Travis here.
896
00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:32,750
Hey, guys.
897
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:35,253
What-what's happening
out at Skinwalker Ranch?
898
00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:38,047
We've got interesting things,
and then we've got things
899
00:37:38,048 --> 00:37:40,800
that... lend me to pause and...
900
00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:42,969
have me concerned.
901
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:45,763
And I'll let Travis explain,
you know, what we found
902
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:47,556
with-with the folks doing
903
00:37:47,557 --> 00:37:50,560
the GPR, or ground-penetrating
radar work.
904
00:37:52,062 --> 00:37:55,064
Right in front
of Homestead Two...
905
00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:58,859
there is an anomaly underground
that ranges from about...
906
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:02,530
12 or 13 feet
all the way down to 35 feet,
907
00:38:02,531 --> 00:38:04,615
and it's kind of,
908
00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:07,326
uh... I would say
maybe football-shaped,
909
00:38:07,327 --> 00:38:09,830
about a thousand-foot long.
910
00:38:11,999 --> 00:38:14,458
If I were gonna say that there's
any place on the ranch
911
00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:16,252
where "X" marks the spot,
it's right there
912
00:38:16,253 --> 00:38:19,047
in the middle of the road
right in front of Homestead Two.
913
00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:24,468
That-that leads
into the not so good news.
914
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:27,471
Travis and Dr. Segala
915
00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:30,808
were exposed to a dose
916
00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:33,894
of toxic radiation.
917
00:38:33,895 --> 00:38:35,438
Yeah.
918
00:38:35,439 --> 00:38:37,648
Well, I mean, I'm-I'm okay, uh,
919
00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:40,109
and I've had my doctors talk
to me about it and everything.
920
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:42,279
There's not-nothing
to worry about.
921
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:44,739
(Travis chuckles)
922
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:46,575
Yeah. It's crazy.
923
00:39:01,173 --> 00:39:03,507
Look, this is your property,
924
00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:05,676
and, you know,
I'm gonna defer to you,
925
00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:07,345
because you're the boss.
926
00:39:07,346 --> 00:39:10,724
So, what-what...
How do you feel about it?
927
00:39:22,611 --> 00:39:26,530
Yeah, I think we don't have to
dig in a major excavation way.
928
00:39:26,531 --> 00:39:29,367
What we do is take, like,
auger core samples.
929
00:39:29,368 --> 00:39:32,370
And so, you know, if something
is a few inches in diameter,
930
00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:35,373
we drill down until we get
to that first layer
931
00:39:35,374 --> 00:39:38,876
of what the boundary
of this thing is...
932
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:40,503
and we'll do, uh,
safety measurements
933
00:39:40,504 --> 00:39:43,047
every couple of feet
to make sure it's not...
934
00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:47,177
pulling back a toxic chemical or
a... or something radioactive.
935
00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:16,164
I agree with that.
936
00:40:24,548 --> 00:40:26,883
Or it could halt it
in its tracks, Brandon.
937
00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:38,060
All right.
Thanks again for the time.
938
00:40:38,061 --> 00:40:38,979
- We'll talk to you soon.
- All right.
939
00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:40,939
See you later, Brandon.
940
00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:46,110
BRANDON: We're always concerned
about disturbing the earth,
941
00:40:46,111 --> 00:40:47,611
because we've seen
942
00:40:47,612 --> 00:40:50,449
in past history
that bad things happen.
943
00:40:52,409 --> 00:40:54,493
ERIK: I do feel the
weight of responsibility.
944
00:40:54,494 --> 00:40:58,789
I wonder whether I have covered
all the appropriate bases
945
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:01,625
prior to doing
this unprecedented exploration
946
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:03,043
on the property.
947
00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:05,296
♪ ♪
948
00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:07,089
BRYANT:
I'm as curious as anybody
949
00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:09,133
to find out
what the heck that big thing
950
00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:11,093
in the ground
by Homestead Two is,
951
00:41:11,094 --> 00:41:13,888
but it really makes me
take a step back,
952
00:41:13,889 --> 00:41:16,140
because I don't want anybody
to get hurt,
953
00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:18,018
especially the people
I care about.
954
00:41:19,478 --> 00:41:21,312
TRAVIS:
Ground-penetrating radar said
955
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:23,439
there's something here under
the road that's anomalous,
956
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,649
and the only way to get
down there and look at it
957
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:26,984
is to dig a hole.
958
00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:29,738
So that's exactly
what we're gonna do.
959
00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:37,161
- SEGALA: Let's get to it.
- TRAVIS: GPR has given us
960
00:41:37,162 --> 00:41:38,662
an "'X' marks the spot."
961
00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:39,788
SEGALA: They're hitting
something hard now.
962
00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:41,457
Man, they're on something.
963
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:43,667
There is an unnatural structure
beneath this property.
964
00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:45,503
- That whole thing's shaking.
- BRYANT: Look at that.
965
00:41:45,504 --> 00:41:47,338
- What is that?
- SEGALA: Why is that rocking like that?
966
00:41:47,339 --> 00:41:48,672
- TRAVIS: Oh!
- TOM: There we go.
967
00:41:48,673 --> 00:41:50,174
THOMAS:
I'm hoping that bringing in
968
00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:52,301
an exotic animal on the ranch
will stimulate
969
00:41:52,302 --> 00:41:54,470
whatever is mutilating
these cattle.
970
00:41:54,471 --> 00:41:56,847
- (animal shrieking) - TOM: The
alpacas have been torn apart.
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- What is that?
- If that's a dog, it's a big dog.
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(animals continue shrieking)
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