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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,539 --> 00:00:20,624 [female on police radio] 3991 on the suspect. 2 00:00:20,708 --> 00:00:22,418 [indistinct talk on police radio] 3 00:00:22,835 --> 00:00:24,045 [male on police radio] Morning. 4 00:00:24,962 --> 00:00:27,882 This is a complete description of the residence desired to be searched 5 00:00:27,965 --> 00:00:30,051 including the curtilage attached thereof. 6 00:00:30,384 --> 00:00:33,637 Being the premises occupied or under the control of Jeffrey Epstein, 7 00:00:33,721 --> 00:00:35,931 white male, date of birth 1/20/53. 8 00:00:39,060 --> 00:00:39,977 This is your copy. 9 00:00:40,853 --> 00:00:42,146 When we are concluded, 10 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:45,316 I will leave a list of what items we're taking. 11 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:48,152 [dramatic music] 12 00:00:51,739 --> 00:00:55,409 Seven months into the case, detectives executed the search warrant 13 00:00:55,493 --> 00:00:57,161 at Mr. Epstein's residence. 14 00:01:00,664 --> 00:01:02,750 [Tim Malloy] They opened the doors and went up the winding staircase 15 00:01:02,833 --> 00:01:04,627 into his ornate and bizarre world. 16 00:01:05,503 --> 00:01:07,630 Pictures of young kids half-naked. 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,925 Nudes everywhere. 18 00:01:15,012 --> 00:01:19,016 One of the police officers who saw it said that it was just really weird. 19 00:01:23,771 --> 00:01:25,648 Detectives also discovered 20 00:01:26,065 --> 00:01:29,860 a very bizarre steam room and massage room setup. 21 00:01:33,989 --> 00:01:37,118 They actually found some computers and equipment that remain in the house, 22 00:01:37,201 --> 00:01:40,037 but police suspected most of Epstein's computer hard drives, 23 00:01:40,121 --> 00:01:43,749 and surveillance cameras, and videos had already been taken out of the house. 24 00:01:45,167 --> 00:01:47,920 [Michael Reiter] There was space on a desk where wires were hanging, 25 00:01:48,003 --> 00:01:49,296 but there was no computer. 26 00:01:50,798 --> 00:01:53,134 At that point, it was fairly clear to us 27 00:01:53,217 --> 00:01:56,262 that Mr. Epstein knew that he was under investigation. 28 00:01:57,721 --> 00:01:59,265 Epstein had been tipped off. 29 00:02:46,854 --> 00:02:50,524 [sinister music] 30 00:02:57,781 --> 00:02:59,700 [Reiter] After the search warrant, 31 00:02:59,783 --> 00:03:04,163 it was disappointing to realize that Epstein's house had been cleaned up. 32 00:03:04,914 --> 00:03:07,458 There were a lot of things that had been removed. 33 00:03:10,336 --> 00:03:12,963 But there was still plenty of evidence that was left. 34 00:03:13,797 --> 00:03:16,800 I think the most useful thing that we learned 35 00:03:17,259 --> 00:03:19,470 was that the victims' accounts, 36 00:03:19,929 --> 00:03:23,307 detailed descriptions  of Mr. Epstein's home, 37 00:03:23,390 --> 00:03:26,936 where rooms were located, the configuration of the home, 38 00:03:27,019 --> 00:03:29,104 validated what they had told us. 39 00:03:30,648 --> 00:03:34,026 There were memo pads of phone calls that we seized 40 00:03:34,109 --> 00:03:35,819 that included contact information 41 00:03:35,903 --> 00:03:41,242 for some of the victims and for some of the adult females 42 00:03:41,325 --> 00:03:44,912 that had been used to identify and recruit the victims, 43 00:03:44,995 --> 00:03:47,957 so that was productive for us as well. 44 00:03:53,420 --> 00:03:55,381 [woman] The message pads that were taken 45 00:03:55,464 --> 00:03:58,425 from the investigation that  the Palm Beach Police Department did, 46 00:03:58,509 --> 00:03:59,510 they're very revealing. 47 00:04:01,053 --> 00:04:05,266 Individuals who were being called or calling back in 48 00:04:05,349 --> 00:04:08,310 to come over for these sexual massages. 49 00:04:08,727 --> 00:04:11,397 For example, one has a redaction on it, 50 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,233 meaning it was a minor who was calling in, and it says, 51 00:04:14,316 --> 00:04:18,570 "She is wondering if 2:30 is okay. She needs to stay in school." 52 00:04:21,115 --> 00:04:24,576 I think I took this case much more seriously than other matters 53 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:27,246 that I've handled, in the sense that it was very personal. 54 00:04:27,329 --> 00:04:31,709 I do have a daughter. I have children. I met with these victims. 55 00:04:31,792 --> 00:04:34,086 It was very personal, the abuse that they suffered. 56 00:04:34,503 --> 00:04:35,379 I won't stop 57 00:04:35,462 --> 00:04:39,008 until the people who victimized these individuals are held accountable. 58 00:04:41,593 --> 00:04:45,347 The age of consent in Florida is 18. It does vary state to state, 59 00:04:45,431 --> 00:04:48,183 and in New York, for example, it's 17, 60 00:04:48,267 --> 00:04:50,769 but this really isn't a case about consent. 61 00:04:52,521 --> 00:04:55,607 The point of these cases is that there was no consent here. 62 00:05:02,406 --> 00:05:04,533 [Reiter] Seven months into the investigation, 63 00:05:05,034 --> 00:05:10,205 we were all extremely frustrated at the difficulty of this case. 64 00:05:12,124 --> 00:05:15,836 We applied whatever resources were necessary to do the best job, 65 00:05:16,253 --> 00:05:20,466 to quickly be able to reach the point that we could apply for arrest warrants. 66 00:05:21,467 --> 00:05:25,804 [man] Detectives that I talked to said that they were tiptoeing, 67 00:05:25,888 --> 00:05:29,683 they were acting a little cautiously because they knew there would be blowback. 68 00:05:29,767 --> 00:05:33,937 But also they were running into resistance even among their own, among colleagues. 69 00:05:34,021 --> 00:05:37,358 Uh, they knew that there were people who would protect 70 00:05:37,441 --> 00:05:39,943 any number of the residents on the island. 71 00:05:40,027 --> 00:05:44,239 And so, to go into a case like this, you had to walk gingerly, 72 00:05:44,323 --> 00:05:48,869 you had to make sure  that you held your information closely, 73 00:05:48,952 --> 00:05:51,789 and you had to be absolutely sure that you were right. 74 00:05:52,873 --> 00:05:56,418 [Reiter] We found that the victims ran the entire gamut 75 00:05:56,502 --> 00:06:00,130 from those that were thankful that we contacted them, 76 00:06:00,214 --> 00:06:03,967 others who said that they were in love with Jeffrey Epstein, 77 00:06:04,051 --> 00:06:06,303 and they were going to get married to Jeffrey Epstein. 78 00:06:07,137 --> 00:06:10,891 Some victims that we contacted had gone on to college 79 00:06:10,974 --> 00:06:14,019 who slammed the door in the face of detectives. 80 00:06:14,686 --> 00:06:16,897 We were very surprised to learn 81 00:06:17,481 --> 00:06:22,027 these criminal activities had gone on for a fairly long period of time, 82 00:06:22,111 --> 00:06:25,030 many years prior to the investigation. 83 00:06:39,128 --> 00:06:40,712 My name is Virginia Giuffre. 84 00:06:41,755 --> 00:06:46,176 When I was 16, I got a summer job at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago 85 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:47,553 in Palm Beach. 86 00:06:48,053 --> 00:06:49,221 Uh, I was working there 87 00:06:49,304 --> 00:06:52,099 as a locker room attendant in the spa area. 88 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:56,812 At the time, I really wanted to become a massage therapist. 89 00:06:57,396 --> 00:06:59,982 And not very long into working at Mar-a-Lago, 90 00:07:00,065 --> 00:07:02,693 did an English lady come up to me. 91 00:07:03,402 --> 00:07:05,696 She introduced herself as Ghislaine Maxwell. 92 00:07:06,822 --> 00:07:10,659 She was beautiful. She looked educated. She was nice. 93 00:07:11,201 --> 00:07:12,703 She said, "Oh, that's interesting. 94 00:07:12,786 --> 00:07:14,872 You're reading a book  about massage therapy." 95 00:07:14,955 --> 00:07:16,623 And she said, "You know, 96 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:20,169 I actually know this guy who's looking for a traveling masseuse. 97 00:07:20,627 --> 00:07:23,964 You know, if you want, you can come by this afternoon after work, 98 00:07:24,047 --> 00:07:25,257 and you can come meet him." 99 00:07:27,926 --> 00:07:30,137 I'd finished work around 5:00, 100 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:33,640 and I pull up at this huge house, this big mansion... 101 00:07:35,726 --> 00:07:37,603 and Ghislaine answers the door. 102 00:07:40,355 --> 00:07:42,983 I walk through the door, and she's leading me up the staircase, 103 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:44,401 and I'm looking around, you know. 104 00:07:44,485 --> 00:07:46,862 There's photographs everywhere of important people. 105 00:07:46,945 --> 00:07:51,200 I could tell that, you know, like, this guy has some friends in high places. 106 00:07:53,118 --> 00:07:55,370 And then we go into the massage room, 107 00:07:55,954 --> 00:07:57,789 and there's this massage bed 108 00:07:58,582 --> 00:08:00,459 with a naked man laying on top of it, 109 00:08:00,876 --> 00:08:01,793 face down. 110 00:08:02,336 --> 00:08:04,171 To me this is, I guess, 111 00:08:04,254 --> 00:08:07,049 walking into a world I didn't understand, but I guess I'm gonna learn. 112 00:08:09,551 --> 00:08:12,679 Ghislaine shows me like, "Put your lotion here on your hands." 113 00:08:13,347 --> 00:08:14,806 And then we did his feet, 114 00:08:15,682 --> 00:08:16,642 his calves... 115 00:08:17,684 --> 00:08:18,560 his back. 116 00:08:19,645 --> 00:08:21,313 While the massage was going on, 117 00:08:21,396 --> 00:08:23,899 they asked me questions about my life. "So, who are you?" 118 00:08:23,982 --> 00:08:27,528 "What school do you go to?" Um... "Tell me about yourself." 119 00:08:27,611 --> 00:08:30,781 You know, and that's when I felt like I should open up and tell them, like, 120 00:08:30,864 --> 00:08:32,866 how much this opportunity means to me. 121 00:08:35,744 --> 00:08:39,706 My home life started out very hard from a very young age. 122 00:08:41,041 --> 00:08:43,877 I'd been a runaway and lived on the streets. 123 00:08:44,836 --> 00:08:46,129 I've been abused. 124 00:08:47,756 --> 00:08:50,759 I felt like it was okay to tell them about my past. 125 00:08:52,386 --> 00:08:53,720 And then he turned over. 126 00:08:54,263 --> 00:08:58,100 [sinister music] 127 00:08:58,183 --> 00:09:01,812 [Virginia Giuffre] They asked me... to please take off my clothes. 128 00:09:03,063 --> 00:09:05,148 Ghislaine started taking off her clothes. 129 00:09:06,608 --> 00:09:08,277 I didn't know what to do. 130 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,905 I didn't know what was gonna happen if I said no, if I screamed. 131 00:09:12,698 --> 00:09:14,533 I just... I did what they said. 132 00:09:17,411 --> 00:09:19,413 Ghislaine was behind and touching me. 133 00:09:20,497 --> 00:09:23,750 It went from oral sex to get on top. 134 00:09:26,003 --> 00:09:30,048 Still to this day, I don't know how it went from something real 135 00:09:30,132 --> 00:09:33,010 to something perverted like that so quickly. 136 00:09:35,846 --> 00:09:36,722 Afterwards, 137 00:09:37,139 --> 00:09:40,767 they said, "The interview went great. You're going to come back tomorrow." 138 00:09:43,812 --> 00:09:44,730 And I did. 139 00:09:46,648 --> 00:09:52,070 I was abused plenty of times before Epstein had done what he did to me. 140 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:59,202 I had no self-esteem. I was scared that my life was going to be worthless. 141 00:10:00,621 --> 00:10:03,165 I was the perfect victim for them. 142 00:10:06,293 --> 00:10:08,045 One thing that Epstein loved me for 143 00:10:08,128 --> 00:10:10,505 was that I never really asked too many questions. 144 00:10:11,715 --> 00:10:15,052 I escalated up the ladder very quickly with Epstein. 145 00:10:15,802 --> 00:10:17,179 I did whatever he needed, 146 00:10:18,096 --> 00:10:21,391 you know, put his socks on  for him before bed, uh... 147 00:10:21,808 --> 00:10:24,686 make sure what he needed sexually happened. 148 00:10:25,103 --> 00:10:27,064 I had to serve him all the time. 149 00:10:29,358 --> 00:10:30,192 They told me, 150 00:10:30,275 --> 00:10:32,819 "You're going to do so well. You're going to travel the world. 151 00:10:33,236 --> 00:10:35,489 You're gonna meet people that you'd never think you'd meet. 152 00:10:35,572 --> 00:10:39,117 We're gonna put you in circles that you would never even understand." 153 00:10:40,494 --> 00:10:43,372 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell had a great way 154 00:10:43,455 --> 00:10:46,041 of normalizing the abuse that was going on. 155 00:10:46,875 --> 00:10:52,673 They kind of made it feel like we were in this really deranged family. 156 00:10:52,756 --> 00:10:55,550 You know, we would sit back, and we would watch movies together. 157 00:10:55,634 --> 00:10:59,137 We would go diving together. We would go hiking together. 158 00:10:59,221 --> 00:11:00,806 We would go on 4Runners together. 159 00:11:00,889 --> 00:11:03,934 We would do so many cool activities like that together. 160 00:11:04,976 --> 00:11:07,312 They kept saying, "We will get you educated. 161 00:11:07,396 --> 00:11:10,023 You will become a real massage therapist one day." 162 00:11:10,107 --> 00:11:15,529 But under the premise that afterwards you're back to the abuse. 163 00:11:16,905 --> 00:11:18,699 And, unfortunately... 164 00:11:19,616 --> 00:11:22,035 I didn't see my life getting any better. 165 00:11:22,703 --> 00:11:23,578 So I stayed. 166 00:11:28,208 --> 00:11:31,837 It was like I am now a slave to these people. 167 00:11:33,463 --> 00:11:34,923 And then I was trafficked. 168 00:11:37,092 --> 00:11:39,428 I was lent out to all of their friends. 169 00:11:39,511 --> 00:11:42,139 They were politicians. They were businessmen. 170 00:11:42,222 --> 00:11:43,724 They were powerful people. 171 00:11:44,975 --> 00:11:47,978 It made me think that if I had run and caused a ruckus, 172 00:11:48,395 --> 00:11:51,481 the police wouldn't have believed me, they wouldn't have done anything about it, 173 00:11:51,565 --> 00:11:54,609 and Jeffrey and Ghislaine could have hurt me really bad then. 174 00:11:55,235 --> 00:11:57,195 He did say like, "People owe me favors. 175 00:11:57,571 --> 00:11:59,531 I can get away with this. I will never get caught. 176 00:11:59,614 --> 00:12:02,284 I own the Palm Beach Police Department." 177 00:12:11,126 --> 00:12:13,628 [James Patterson] Jeffrey Epstein fits into that pattern 178 00:12:13,712 --> 00:12:15,422 of thinking that he's above the law, 179 00:12:15,505 --> 00:12:17,507 that he can do what he feels like doing. 180 00:12:18,675 --> 00:12:22,637 But the life of privilege and power that Epstein lead 181 00:12:22,721 --> 00:12:25,599 is a far, far cry from the way he was brought up. 182 00:12:26,558 --> 00:12:28,727 [children shouting, screaming] 183 00:12:28,810 --> 00:12:31,646 -[waves crashing] -[seagulls squawking] 184 00:12:33,398 --> 00:12:36,943 [Patterson] Epstein was born and raised in Coney Island, New York, 185 00:12:37,027 --> 00:12:39,863 which is very middle class, lower middle class. 186 00:12:40,363 --> 00:12:43,700 Epstein was a very good student in high school. He was a bright guy. 187 00:12:43,784 --> 00:12:47,245 He skipped a couple of grades in high school, graduated in 1969. 188 00:12:48,455 --> 00:12:50,248 [lawyer] What college did you attend? 189 00:12:50,332 --> 00:12:51,208 Cooper Union. 190 00:12:52,709 --> 00:12:54,628 [lawyer] Did you get a degree from Cooper Union? 191 00:12:54,711 --> 00:12:55,545 No, sir. 192 00:12:56,171 --> 00:12:58,048 [lawyer] How many years were you in college? 193 00:12:58,131 --> 00:13:00,008 [tuts] I believe two. 194 00:13:00,258 --> 00:13:01,593 [lawyer] What'd you study? 195 00:13:01,676 --> 00:13:02,552 Physics. 196 00:13:03,845 --> 00:13:06,223 [lawyer] But isn't it true that you were a teacher 197 00:13:06,973 --> 00:13:09,518 at the Dalton School in New York 198 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:11,478 after college? 199 00:13:13,271 --> 00:13:14,856 [Patterson] The first mystery is 200 00:13:14,940 --> 00:13:20,821 how could Epstein get a job teaching at Dalton without a college degree? 201 00:13:22,072 --> 00:13:25,492 This was probably the start of Epstein's lifelong pattern 202 00:13:25,575 --> 00:13:28,870 of getting away with things that most people can't. 203 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:37,212 [man] In 1976, Ace Greenberg was running Bear Stearns. 204 00:13:38,171 --> 00:13:41,091 One day, I was sitting in my office, 205 00:13:41,508 --> 00:13:46,471 and Ace Greenberg called me to say that a trustee of the Dalton School 206 00:13:46,555 --> 00:13:48,223 had a young professor, 207 00:13:48,306 --> 00:13:51,393 Jeff Epstein, who wanted to come to Wall Street, 208 00:13:51,476 --> 00:13:54,062 and Ace asked if I would interview him. 209 00:13:54,896 --> 00:13:59,150 Epstein was well-known as a good teacher and somewhat of a ladies man, 210 00:13:59,234 --> 00:14:01,361 which didn't resonate at the time. 211 00:14:03,071 --> 00:14:05,115 After grilling Jeffrey a few times, 212 00:14:05,198 --> 00:14:09,786 I hired him to develop and market our quantitative analyses for options. 213 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:11,162 He was terrific at it. 214 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,915 Epstein was very quick-witted. 215 00:14:14,833 --> 00:14:18,879 When, uh, something arose that he might not have been able to predict, 216 00:14:19,296 --> 00:14:21,715 he dealt with it in an impressive fashion. 217 00:14:22,173 --> 00:14:24,551 That's a trait of an effective salesperson. 218 00:14:25,594 --> 00:14:28,430 I was favorably impressed that he could do the work. 219 00:14:28,513 --> 00:14:31,057 But this, I think, was one of my... 220 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:33,727 important mistakes in my career. 221 00:14:38,189 --> 00:14:41,610 Epstein had been working for me perhaps two months. 222 00:14:41,693 --> 00:14:45,488 The head of personnel called me. He said, "Are you sitting down? 223 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:50,619 Jeffrey Epstein lied on his résumé about his education. 224 00:14:51,620 --> 00:14:53,830 None of his colleges have ever heard of him." 225 00:14:54,456 --> 00:14:55,790 I was stunned. 226 00:14:57,208 --> 00:14:58,501 I hired a liar. 227 00:14:58,835 --> 00:15:01,254 Even worse, he was dating Ace's daughter. 228 00:15:02,047 --> 00:15:03,548 I went to Ace Greenberg. 229 00:15:03,632 --> 00:15:05,967 I wasn't sure how he would want me to proceed, 230 00:15:06,509 --> 00:15:09,179 and Ace said, "Treat him like anybody else." 231 00:15:10,472 --> 00:15:12,349 I was prepared to fire him. 232 00:15:13,308 --> 00:15:17,395 And this is where his sales skills really resonated. 233 00:15:17,479 --> 00:15:19,230 When I told him he'd lied, 234 00:15:19,564 --> 00:15:21,024 he admitted it immediately. 235 00:15:21,524 --> 00:15:22,651 He just said, 236 00:15:22,734 --> 00:15:27,113 "I knew I couldn't get a job teaching at a high-quality school 237 00:15:27,197 --> 00:15:30,325 if I didn't have good educational credentials, 238 00:15:30,408 --> 00:15:31,952 so I wanted to get a chance." 239 00:15:32,035 --> 00:15:34,454 I said, "Why didn't you tell us the truth?" 240 00:15:34,537 --> 00:15:37,040 He said, "Well, I was afraid the Dalton School would hear about it 241 00:15:37,123 --> 00:15:38,708 and there would be problems." 242 00:15:38,792 --> 00:15:40,126 He said, "I wanted to." 243 00:15:40,669 --> 00:15:43,588 And he did it in a way that was very convincing. 244 00:15:45,006 --> 00:15:46,132 He disarmed me. 245 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:50,345 And I thought, "Do I want to play God and throw him in the street, 246 00:15:50,428 --> 00:15:52,347 maybe destroy his potential?" 247 00:15:54,391 --> 00:15:55,892 Today, I wish I had. 248 00:15:58,561 --> 00:16:01,982 He had done well enough that they made him a limited partner. 249 00:16:02,691 --> 00:16:05,360 But then a few years after that, I heard he'd been fired 250 00:16:05,443 --> 00:16:06,987 for breaking some rules. 251 00:16:08,029 --> 00:16:11,032 I deeply regret giving Epstein a second chance. 252 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:13,535 That was my tragedy. 253 00:16:29,843 --> 00:16:34,264 Most of the victims did not want to prosecute when we first contacted them. 254 00:16:34,681 --> 00:16:39,185 So once we had four or five victims who were cooperative, 255 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:42,063 we presented applications for arrest warrants 256 00:16:42,147 --> 00:16:43,732 to the state attorney's office. 257 00:16:47,569 --> 00:16:50,030 From the time I first became police chief, 258 00:16:50,113 --> 00:16:53,575 I had an excellent relationship with the state attorney, 259 00:16:53,658 --> 00:16:54,701 Barry Krischer. 260 00:16:55,368 --> 00:16:59,247 The first time that I talked about the case against Epstein with him, 261 00:16:59,330 --> 00:17:03,251 I explained that we had about 40-some victims who were in their teens, 262 00:17:03,334 --> 00:17:05,420 early teens in some cases, 263 00:17:05,754 --> 00:17:09,007 who had sex with an adult male in his 50s. 264 00:17:09,090 --> 00:17:11,801 He said he didn't know Jeffrey Epstein and he remarked, 265 00:17:12,302 --> 00:17:14,846 "We'll put him away for the rest of his life. It's an easy case." 266 00:17:18,892 --> 00:17:21,227 [sinister music] 267 00:17:22,145 --> 00:17:25,315 [Marc Fisher] Jeffrey Epstein, both through his money and his connections, 268 00:17:25,398 --> 00:17:26,399 was able to assemble 269 00:17:26,483 --> 00:17:29,986 an extraordinary dream team of at least eight defense lawyers 270 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:33,448 who were known throughout the country and throughout their industry 271 00:17:33,531 --> 00:17:35,033 as the absolute best. 272 00:17:35,867 --> 00:17:38,203 From Clinton impeachment lawyer, Kenneth Starr, 273 00:17:38,286 --> 00:17:41,623 the top defense lawyers of South Florida, people like Roy Black, 274 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,793 New Yorkers like Jay Lefkowitz and Gerald Lefcourt 275 00:17:44,876 --> 00:17:47,921 to Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz. 276 00:17:52,258 --> 00:17:55,095 [Alan Dershowitz] I was born to be a criminal defense lawyer. 277 00:17:57,305 --> 00:17:58,890 If you want to be a defense attorney, 278 00:17:58,973 --> 00:18:01,017 you can't be concerned about what people think of you. 279 00:18:03,269 --> 00:18:06,648 So, I did represent Claus von Bülow, 280 00:18:06,731 --> 00:18:11,736 O.J. Simpson, and Mike Tyson, and Leona Helmsley, and Patricia Hearst, 281 00:18:12,153 --> 00:18:14,030 and so many other people. 282 00:18:16,866 --> 00:18:19,619 My relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was academic 283 00:18:20,078 --> 00:18:21,162 and lawyer-client... 284 00:18:22,038 --> 00:18:25,750 but it was a close academic friendship. For example, when I would write books, 285 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:27,919 I would only send them  to a handful of people. 286 00:18:28,002 --> 00:18:28,837 He was one of them 287 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,258 because he would seriously read every word I wrote, 288 00:18:33,341 --> 00:18:35,677 and he would have comments and criticisms. 289 00:18:36,594 --> 00:18:40,515 Jeffrey Epstein called me, I think, the day he got the first indications, 290 00:18:40,598 --> 00:18:42,559 and the first indications were merely 291 00:18:42,642 --> 00:18:46,980 that one or two of the women may have been 17, 292 00:18:47,063 --> 00:18:51,192 and may have lied about their age, had given him false documentation. 293 00:18:51,276 --> 00:18:56,573 He asked me if I would help represent him. I said I couldn't represent him myself, 294 00:18:56,656 --> 00:18:59,492 I'm not a member of the Florida bar, 295 00:19:00,243 --> 00:19:04,038 but that I would help him put together a legal team, and I did. 296 00:19:11,462 --> 00:19:12,839 [Fisher] Detectives quickly learned 297 00:19:13,339 --> 00:19:17,844 that Epstein was on to them and that he was organizing a defense. 298 00:19:17,927 --> 00:19:20,597 And, in fact, he was organizing an offense. 299 00:19:21,347 --> 00:19:25,268 Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys were looking into what the detectives were doing, 300 00:19:25,351 --> 00:19:27,187 who they were, what their pasts were, 301 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:31,774 whether there were any peccadilloes that would make them vulnerable to attack. 302 00:19:33,985 --> 00:19:36,487 [Reiter] There was surveillance of me for months, 303 00:19:36,571 --> 00:19:39,115 round-the-clock surveillance of Detective Recarey, 304 00:19:39,199 --> 00:19:43,494 around-the clock picking up of his trash at his home and my trash. 305 00:19:43,578 --> 00:19:46,331 And the reason that it happened to the degree that it did 306 00:19:46,414 --> 00:19:49,792 is because Mr. Epstein had the resources to do that. 307 00:19:50,293 --> 00:19:53,504 In fact, we found private investigators going through the trash 308 00:19:53,588 --> 00:19:55,089 at the police station. 309 00:19:55,173 --> 00:19:58,009 So we stopped putting the reports in the computer 310 00:19:58,092 --> 00:20:01,262 and actually had them kept separately. 311 00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:06,768 [Malloy] A few months after Chief Michael Reiter hands over 312 00:20:06,851 --> 00:20:09,729 the evidence to his close friend Barry Krischer, 313 00:20:09,812 --> 00:20:14,067 Reiter notes an alarming difference in Krischer's attitude towards Epstein. 314 00:20:15,151 --> 00:20:18,488 Krischer had all but said to his friend Chief Michael Reiter, 315 00:20:18,571 --> 00:20:20,823 "We're gonna string him up. You had a really solid case." 316 00:20:20,907 --> 00:20:21,741 And then suddenly, 317 00:20:21,824 --> 00:20:23,701 the teeth seems to go out of the investigation, 318 00:20:23,785 --> 00:20:28,039 at least on the side of the state attorney who was supposed to be prosecuting this. 319 00:20:29,791 --> 00:20:33,753 [Reiter] I had been speaking with Mr. Krischer along the way, 320 00:20:33,836 --> 00:20:36,673 and the state attorney's office  started saying, 321 00:20:36,756 --> 00:20:39,717 "Look, these victims will not make good witnesses. 322 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,097 Yes, these victims, most of them, 323 00:20:44,180 --> 00:20:50,061 received financial compensation for, uh, the sexual contact with Mr. Epstein, 324 00:20:50,728 --> 00:20:53,898 but no child can consent to have sex with an adult." 325 00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:59,237 But we were never able to really convince the prosecutors 326 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,530 that that didn't matter. 327 00:21:13,293 --> 00:21:14,502 [Malloy] In a release, 328 00:21:14,585 --> 00:21:17,255 a high-powered local attorney Jack Goldberger, Epstein's attorney, 329 00:21:17,338 --> 00:21:20,675 emphasized the grand jury in this questioned the credibility of the girls 330 00:21:20,758 --> 00:21:24,679 and therefore limited their charges simply to solicitation of prostitution. 331 00:21:24,762 --> 00:21:27,140 Epstein is out on bond, and he is not talking. 332 00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:36,941 [woman] I've been a reporter at The Palm Beach Post for about 16 years. 333 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,321 I think nobody knew anything until 2006, and then it just... 334 00:21:41,404 --> 00:21:43,239 [makes explosion sound] It exploded. 335 00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:48,494 Epstein's attorneys went after the victims viciously. 336 00:21:48,578 --> 00:21:51,706 I mean, their depositions that I've read were just, I mean, hideous. 337 00:21:51,789 --> 00:21:54,542 I remember one where he asked one of the young girls, 338 00:21:54,625 --> 00:21:56,461 "Is it true you've had three abortions?" 339 00:21:56,544 --> 00:21:59,464 And then they asked the girl, "Well, what's worse, 340 00:21:59,547 --> 00:22:02,759 having three abortions or giving sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein?" 341 00:22:03,968 --> 00:22:06,512 It was just brutal what they did to these women. 342 00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:11,684 [Dershowitz] You must bring out all the negatives. 343 00:22:11,768 --> 00:22:14,228 You have to present the full picture. 344 00:22:14,771 --> 00:22:21,194 Their credibility may be subject to question because of their backgrounds, 345 00:22:21,277 --> 00:22:24,113 but it has nothing to do with blaming them. 346 00:22:25,448 --> 00:22:26,949 It's the role of the defense attorney 347 00:22:27,033 --> 00:22:30,411 to raise questions about the credibility of any witnesses. 348 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:34,082 We don't look at what's good for victims. We don't look at anything 349 00:22:34,165 --> 00:22:38,419 except what's good for our client, ethically and legally. 350 00:22:41,547 --> 00:22:44,133 [woman] I've been with the TV station in Palm Beach County 351 00:22:44,217 --> 00:22:46,469 for almost 23 years now. 352 00:22:47,095 --> 00:22:49,472 The Jeffrey Epstein story is as big as it gets. 353 00:22:50,264 --> 00:22:52,016 So when the story broke, 354 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:56,354 we started realizing the gravity of a Palm Beach billionaire 355 00:22:56,437 --> 00:22:59,065 and the accusations that we were starting to hear, 356 00:22:59,148 --> 00:23:01,859 we were quickly on the air with this story, 357 00:23:02,777 --> 00:23:05,488 but Epstein's team wanted this to go away. 358 00:23:06,447 --> 00:23:08,616 There were weekly phone calls to reporters 359 00:23:09,158 --> 00:23:12,578 with threats to make the story go away. 360 00:23:12,662 --> 00:23:15,498 "You don't want to do this. You shouldn't be looking into this." 361 00:23:16,791 --> 00:23:20,002 And it was mystifying to the Palm Beach Police Department 362 00:23:20,086 --> 00:23:22,588 because they had all this evidence. 363 00:23:24,006 --> 00:23:26,926 [reporter] Palm Beach Police think prostitution charges brought against 364 00:23:27,009 --> 00:23:30,596 billionaire socialite Jeffrey Epstein don't go far enough. 365 00:23:30,972 --> 00:23:33,808 Investigators think prosecutors should have gone after Epstein 366 00:23:33,891 --> 00:23:36,519 on charges of unlawful sex with a minor. 367 00:23:36,894 --> 00:23:38,521 So why didn't they? 368 00:23:40,648 --> 00:23:42,984 [Reiter] We were all extremely frustrated. 369 00:23:44,735 --> 00:23:45,820 Once we knew 370 00:23:45,903 --> 00:23:50,158 that the one charge was going to be the extent of the state's prosecution, 371 00:23:51,075 --> 00:23:54,954 I wrote the parents of all the victims and told them that 372 00:23:55,037 --> 00:23:57,748 I did not feel  that justice was sufficiently served, 373 00:23:58,416 --> 00:24:00,668 and that I was referring the case to the FBI. 374 00:24:04,213 --> 00:24:06,090 [Jane Musgrave] It's highly unusual for a police chief 375 00:24:06,174 --> 00:24:07,758 to sidestep the state attorney's office, 376 00:24:07,842 --> 00:24:10,803 and go directly to the feds, and demand an investigation. 377 00:24:10,887 --> 00:24:12,555 I don't know that I have ever heard of that, 378 00:24:12,638 --> 00:24:16,559 and I think that's one of the many, many odd things about this case. 379 00:24:22,732 --> 00:24:24,525 [Shannon Cake] Any investigator or investigation, 380 00:24:24,609 --> 00:24:27,320 the first thing you're going to do is look back in time and see: 381 00:24:27,403 --> 00:24:28,404 Has this happened before? 382 00:24:28,488 --> 00:24:30,490 Are there other claims? Are there other victims? 383 00:24:33,326 --> 00:24:35,161 The FBI actually found two women 384 00:24:35,244 --> 00:24:38,748 who had accused Epstein a decade earlier, in 1996. 385 00:24:39,207 --> 00:24:40,708 Maria Farmer, an artist, 386 00:24:41,375 --> 00:24:42,835 and her younger sister, Annie. 387 00:24:49,217 --> 00:24:51,969 [Maria Farmer] In 1996, following the assault 388 00:24:52,053 --> 00:24:53,554 by Jeffrey and Ghislaine, 389 00:24:53,638 --> 00:24:55,723 I came back to New York... 390 00:24:57,725 --> 00:25:01,646 and then I found out that they knew that I'd reported them to the FBI. 391 00:25:03,439 --> 00:25:06,734 Ghislaine called and said she was going to burn all my art, 392 00:25:07,193 --> 00:25:09,570 and burn my career and destroy it, 393 00:25:09,654 --> 00:25:13,366 she was entirely socially connected, and that I was screwed. 394 00:25:13,908 --> 00:25:16,160 She told me I needed to watch my back, 395 00:25:16,244 --> 00:25:18,913 that, "I know you like to go running on the West Side Highway, 396 00:25:18,996 --> 00:25:21,791 and that's not going to be a safe place for you anymore, 397 00:25:21,874 --> 00:25:24,544 because there are a lot of ways to die on the West Side Highway." 398 00:25:26,003 --> 00:25:31,217 From that point on, over many years, I would move, I would relocate, 399 00:25:31,634 --> 00:25:35,263 and a couple of months would go by, and I would be moving in, 400 00:25:35,846 --> 00:25:39,058 and Ghislaine... Ghislaine would call me. 401 00:25:39,141 --> 00:25:41,143 She would say she knew where I lived. 402 00:25:42,061 --> 00:25:46,107 She would say that same kinds of veiled threats like... 403 00:25:46,941 --> 00:25:48,693 "You're not safe where you are. 404 00:25:48,776 --> 00:25:50,653 You might want to check over your shoulder." 405 00:25:55,950 --> 00:26:01,038 Finally, in 2006, I was living in the mountains of North Carolina. 406 00:26:01,872 --> 00:26:02,999 I was hiding. 407 00:26:03,624 --> 00:26:06,252 I had changed my name. I had an alias... 408 00:26:07,753 --> 00:26:11,799 and I get a knock on the door, and it's this man and this woman, 409 00:26:12,258 --> 00:26:15,136 and they show me their badge, they're FBI, 410 00:26:15,219 --> 00:26:17,305 and this woman said, 411 00:26:17,722 --> 00:26:20,766 "This is about your 1996 FBI report, 412 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,769 and we're following up because we're going to get him. 413 00:26:23,853 --> 00:26:25,187 We're going to get them." 414 00:26:27,148 --> 00:26:28,399 [Annie Farmer] The FBI came, 415 00:26:28,482 --> 00:26:31,527 and they interviewed me, and they interviewed my sister, 416 00:26:31,611 --> 00:26:33,029 and we told them our stories. 417 00:26:33,112 --> 00:26:36,532 And so we just thought, "Oh, my gosh! They're really... 418 00:26:36,616 --> 00:26:40,745 You know, they're doing a thorough job. They're looking at people in other places. 419 00:26:40,828 --> 00:26:43,914 They're recognizing that this is a more systemic issue, 420 00:26:43,998 --> 00:26:47,627 and they are... You know, he's gonna be held accountable." 421 00:26:52,965 --> 00:26:55,217 [Shawna Rivera] I talked to the FBI, and they're like, 422 00:26:55,301 --> 00:26:56,761 "We're here to save you." 423 00:26:56,844 --> 00:26:58,220 And they assured me 424 00:26:58,304 --> 00:27:00,222 that they were going to protect me, 425 00:27:00,306 --> 00:27:03,392 and that they needed me to tell them everything that happened. 426 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:07,313 And they would help as many victims as they can. 427 00:27:08,606 --> 00:27:10,149 [Sigrid McCawley] I think a lot of the families, 428 00:27:10,232 --> 00:27:12,735 when they came to learn what had happened to their daughters, 429 00:27:12,818 --> 00:27:16,197 reached out to attorneys to try to help them navigate this circumstance, 430 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,574 because obviously there was a criminal aspect to it, 431 00:27:18,658 --> 00:27:20,368 there was a civil aspect to it, 432 00:27:20,451 --> 00:27:23,496 and they were also facing somebody who is incredibly powerful, 433 00:27:23,579 --> 00:27:26,290 incredibly wealthy, incredibly intimidating, 434 00:27:26,374 --> 00:27:29,210 so they needed lawyers to help them through that process. 435 00:27:43,974 --> 00:27:46,268 [man] The first time I heard Jeffrey Epstein's name 436 00:27:46,352 --> 00:27:47,937 was when I had my own law firm 437 00:27:48,437 --> 00:27:52,400 dedicated to representing crime victims in civil cases. 438 00:27:53,609 --> 00:27:55,986 A friend of mine from Jacksonville, who was also a lawyer, 439 00:27:56,070 --> 00:28:02,076 he called me and said that he had received a call from a girl. 440 00:28:03,285 --> 00:28:04,870 And that was Courtney Wild. 441 00:28:05,913 --> 00:28:07,289 Courtney came to my office. 442 00:28:07,623 --> 00:28:10,209 Then she told me how she went into his house 443 00:28:10,292 --> 00:28:11,585 and told me what happened there. 444 00:28:17,967 --> 00:28:22,763 [woman] I was 14 when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein. 445 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:26,809 It was eighth grade summer, going from eighth grade to high school. 446 00:28:29,311 --> 00:28:32,815 From sixth, seventh and eighth grade, I was a straight-A student. 447 00:28:32,898 --> 00:28:34,483 I never even got a B. 448 00:28:34,567 --> 00:28:38,154 I played the trumpet. I was captain of the cheerleading squad... 449 00:28:39,572 --> 00:28:45,411 but then from eighth grade to ninth grade, things fell apart for me and my family. 450 00:28:46,203 --> 00:28:50,374 Just from, um... my mom's addiction. 451 00:28:50,458 --> 00:28:54,086 She was sick, battling her own demons, wasn't really able to care for me, 452 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:56,547 and I was basically homeless 453 00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:59,341 and living at friends' houses and stuff like that. 454 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,513 When I first went to Jeffrey's, 455 00:29:04,597 --> 00:29:07,558 I really was expecting I was going to make easy money 456 00:29:07,641 --> 00:29:09,226 giving this guy a massage. 457 00:29:09,727 --> 00:29:12,938 And that situation escalated to him molesting me. 458 00:29:14,482 --> 00:29:18,194 It happened so quick where it's like, "What just happened?" 459 00:29:19,528 --> 00:29:22,948 But being vulnerable at 14 years old, 460 00:29:23,032 --> 00:29:29,038 and trying to handle life on my own, it was just overwhelming, so... 461 00:29:29,455 --> 00:29:31,916 um, I did continue to go back to Jeffrey's. 462 00:29:32,416 --> 00:29:34,168 He made me feel like, 463 00:29:34,251 --> 00:29:38,672 you know, basically, I was lucky to be in his presence. 464 00:29:38,756 --> 00:29:44,845 It was just a glorified manipulation thing he had going on and that worked. 465 00:29:48,265 --> 00:29:51,811 It was maybe the second time I went to him or the third. 466 00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,313 He asked me, do I have any friends, 467 00:29:54,396 --> 00:29:55,940 can I bring anybody? 468 00:29:56,023 --> 00:29:59,860 And he would give me $200 and the person $200. 469 00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:04,698 In my time frame of going for three to four years, 470 00:30:04,782 --> 00:30:07,201 I at least brought him about 40 to 60 girls. 471 00:30:08,577 --> 00:30:11,622 I know that this is wrong, this is crazy, 472 00:30:11,705 --> 00:30:15,709 but I just became okay with that because of what he offered me. 473 00:30:15,793 --> 00:30:19,463 He offered me cash. He offered me a way 474 00:30:19,964 --> 00:30:21,674 so I could eat and pay my bills, 475 00:30:21,757 --> 00:30:24,552 and he offered me something that nobody else did. 476 00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:27,888 I felt like he was my lifeline. 477 00:30:37,565 --> 00:30:39,733 [Courtney Wild] So, in the beginning of the investigation 478 00:30:39,817 --> 00:30:42,194 when the police were reaching out to me, 479 00:30:42,278 --> 00:30:43,362 I was confused. 480 00:30:43,445 --> 00:30:47,825 I felt like I had this painting of Jeffrey that he was this awesome man, 481 00:30:48,158 --> 00:30:50,619 that he actually saved my life in a sense, 482 00:30:50,703 --> 00:30:53,539 that I was very lucky to ever be introduced to him. 483 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,919 But then I see the police reports of girls that I had brought to Jeffrey's, 484 00:30:59,503 --> 00:31:00,546 close friends, 485 00:31:01,255 --> 00:31:03,632 and that made me have the change of heart. 486 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,343 The emotions come over 487 00:31:06,927 --> 00:31:09,763 of, like, guilt, and shame, and disgust. 488 00:31:10,306 --> 00:31:11,473 It was traumatic. 489 00:31:12,683 --> 00:31:13,934 That's when I started saying, 490 00:31:14,018 --> 00:31:16,770 "Okay, this isn't right. Something needs to happen about this." 491 00:31:18,606 --> 00:31:22,443 So I find Brad Edwards, my attorney. 492 00:31:23,527 --> 00:31:26,322 [Brad Edwards] I told her, "You don't really have much to worry about. 493 00:31:26,947 --> 00:31:31,160 This is somebody who is not ever going to be free again." 494 00:31:31,619 --> 00:31:34,371 She said, "But I don't think you understand the level of power he has." 495 00:31:35,789 --> 00:31:37,082 It's just unheard of. 496 00:31:37,166 --> 00:31:40,085 It's just an unbelievable scheme to have kept going 497 00:31:40,169 --> 00:31:42,296 for that long of a period of time. 498 00:31:42,838 --> 00:31:44,590 I've never heard anything like this 499 00:31:44,673 --> 00:31:47,927 where somebody was able to set up basically a pyramid scheme, 500 00:31:48,010 --> 00:31:50,095 a molestation pyramid scheme. 501 00:31:54,224 --> 00:31:55,601 Hey, do you have the victim chart? 502 00:31:55,684 --> 00:31:57,269 -The chart that we created? -Yeah. 503 00:31:59,063 --> 00:32:01,190 Well, this is when we were first... 504 00:32:02,358 --> 00:32:04,777 trying to map out the case. 505 00:32:05,444 --> 00:32:06,570 We had to prove 506 00:32:07,112 --> 00:32:11,700 that this pyramid of underage girls in Palm Beach... 507 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:13,702 was true. 508 00:32:14,328 --> 00:32:18,666 It didn't start from just a random underage girl walking into the house. 509 00:32:19,291 --> 00:32:21,835 Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the recruiters 510 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,880 of the underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein. 511 00:32:24,964 --> 00:32:27,049 The other recruiters that were identified 512 00:32:27,132 --> 00:32:28,592 were Sarah Kellen, 513 00:32:28,676 --> 00:32:30,386 Nadia Marcinkova, 514 00:32:30,469 --> 00:32:31,929 Adriana Mucinska, 515 00:32:32,012 --> 00:32:34,306 and we just started tracking 516 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,061 if this person, which name is not identified right now, 517 00:32:39,144 --> 00:32:41,271 was an underage girl. 518 00:32:41,647 --> 00:32:42,731 "Who did you bring?" 519 00:32:43,315 --> 00:32:45,526 And then from that person we would bridge down, 520 00:32:45,609 --> 00:32:46,694 "How many did you bring?" 521 00:32:46,777 --> 00:32:49,571 And she would name the other five or six people. 522 00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:53,117 This was something that we assembled in about 30 days 523 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,371 and realized that this chart could go off like a spider web 524 00:32:57,454 --> 00:33:01,083 for, you know, five times as big as this chart. 525 00:33:03,711 --> 00:33:06,505 [McCawley] So at the top of the pyramid scheme was Ghislaine Maxwell, 526 00:33:06,588 --> 00:33:08,549 who was really Epstein's right-hand person 527 00:33:08,632 --> 00:33:11,760 with helping to recruit these individuals for sexual abuse. 528 00:33:13,887 --> 00:33:16,640 [Vicky Ward] Jeffrey and Ghislaine met in New York. 529 00:33:17,683 --> 00:33:21,186 Jeffrey Epstein's really an introvert. 530 00:33:21,562 --> 00:33:27,901 Ghislaine is a much more charming person than Jeffrey is. 531 00:33:27,985 --> 00:33:29,111 She's an extrovert. 532 00:33:29,945 --> 00:33:33,532 I think he revels in being this man of mystery, 533 00:33:33,991 --> 00:33:37,536 who almost can't be bothered to dress properly. 534 00:33:37,619 --> 00:33:39,830 He can't be bothered to go to restaurants, 535 00:33:40,581 --> 00:33:43,292 and he likes the sort of intrigue that that creates about him. 536 00:33:44,001 --> 00:33:46,712 Ghislaine is a very engaging person. 537 00:33:46,795 --> 00:33:49,882 She's extremely charismatic and bubbly. 538 00:33:51,383 --> 00:33:56,847 Her father, Robert Maxwell, had been an incredibly big figure in England. 539 00:33:57,222 --> 00:34:00,267 He was a big newspaper publisher. 540 00:34:00,684 --> 00:34:04,313 In fact, he'd been something of a con man and a fraudster, 541 00:34:04,396 --> 00:34:06,148 but he'd lived a huge life. 542 00:34:07,232 --> 00:34:11,403 When Ghislaine came to New York, 543 00:34:11,487 --> 00:34:14,198 her whole world had fallen apart. 544 00:34:14,782 --> 00:34:19,661 Her father, who she was incredibly attached to... 545 00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:23,415 had died in very murky circumstances, 546 00:34:23,499 --> 00:34:27,252 and also his entire reputation had been shattered. 547 00:34:29,171 --> 00:34:35,135 Jeffrey, in a way, felt like a safe haven for her. Here was... 548 00:34:36,011 --> 00:34:40,849 another very rich man to sort of replace her father. 549 00:34:45,062 --> 00:34:49,858 [sinister music] 550 00:34:55,197 --> 00:34:58,408 [man] I've been covering Wall Street since at least 1991. 551 00:34:59,409 --> 00:35:03,288 You know, Jeffrey Epstein was always someone whose name popped up, 552 00:35:03,789 --> 00:35:05,749 but I couldn't really nail it down. 553 00:35:05,958 --> 00:35:07,167 He was a cipher. 554 00:35:08,669 --> 00:35:11,130 People I know on Wall Street leave trails. 555 00:35:11,588 --> 00:35:13,423 His trail was elusive. 556 00:35:14,299 --> 00:35:16,760 So it was just sort of odd that here was this guy 557 00:35:16,844 --> 00:35:19,054 that people talked about a lot, 558 00:35:19,346 --> 00:35:21,682 that didn't have much of a footprint in the investment world. 559 00:35:22,808 --> 00:35:26,895 That's the mystery of Jeffrey Epstein. You know, how did he make money? 560 00:35:32,901 --> 00:35:35,320 [man] I deeply regret 561 00:35:35,696 --> 00:35:37,322 that I met Jeffrey Epstein, 562 00:35:37,614 --> 00:35:42,286 who is somebody that has haunted me for over 30 years. 563 00:35:43,787 --> 00:35:47,332 Without me, he wouldn't be  the billionaire he is today, 564 00:35:47,416 --> 00:35:49,835 and these poor girls would not be raped. 565 00:35:49,918 --> 00:35:54,840 And I'm here for redemption and to tell the story to the public. 566 00:35:55,799 --> 00:35:56,967 [car horn beeping] 567 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,181 [Steven Hoffenberg] I met Jeff Epstein in the '80s 568 00:36:02,973 --> 00:36:06,268 after he was thrown out of Bear Stearns. 569 00:36:06,935 --> 00:36:10,355 I was the CEO of Towers Financial Corporation. 570 00:36:12,983 --> 00:36:18,363 [Ward] Steve Hoffenberg and Jeffrey were both self-made guys. 571 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:23,035 But when Jeffrey met him, Hoffenberg was the sort of... the mogul. 572 00:36:23,118 --> 00:36:27,206 He was the one flying around in private planes. 573 00:36:27,289 --> 00:36:30,375 He was the one with the wealth. 574 00:36:32,461 --> 00:36:35,631 [Hoffenberg] The CEO of a very large company 575 00:36:35,714 --> 00:36:38,467 who had employed Jeffrey Epstein in Europe 576 00:36:38,842 --> 00:36:41,720 called me and said, "This is a brilliant man 577 00:36:41,803 --> 00:36:45,015 that we'd like you to interview for North America 578 00:36:45,432 --> 00:36:50,270 because he has credentials on Wall Street, and he's loaded with energy, 579 00:36:50,562 --> 00:36:53,065 but his moral compass is upside down." 580 00:36:53,941 --> 00:36:59,404 Jeffrey Epstein had cheated and stolen money on his expense account. 581 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,908 He definitely appealed to us, 582 00:37:02,991 --> 00:37:05,994 because we were running a Ponzi scheme. [chuckles] 583 00:37:06,828 --> 00:37:08,205 And he understood Wall Street, 584 00:37:08,288 --> 00:37:14,628 and he could deliver substantial results in this criminal enterprise. 585 00:37:16,672 --> 00:37:21,551 So I interviewed Jeffrey Epstein, and he took control of the interview. 586 00:37:21,885 --> 00:37:25,555 He's got a gift that's extraordinary, 587 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,809 where he controls the people he meets 588 00:37:28,892 --> 00:37:32,437 and manipulates them totally with his charisma. 589 00:37:45,492 --> 00:37:49,621 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein became my partner in crime, 590 00:37:49,705 --> 00:37:52,874 backing me up, leading the advance, 591 00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:57,170 doing the crimes alongside me daily. 592 00:37:57,671 --> 00:38:01,341 He took over the securities side, 593 00:38:01,842 --> 00:38:03,844 the fake assets side. 594 00:38:04,136 --> 00:38:06,054 He was manipulating stock price 595 00:38:06,596 --> 00:38:08,765 and trading stock illegally. 596 00:38:11,435 --> 00:38:16,064 [Ward] People involved certainly remembered Jeffrey 597 00:38:16,148 --> 00:38:19,860 as being incredibly important in coming up 598 00:38:20,235 --> 00:38:22,446 with how the scheme would work. 599 00:38:24,364 --> 00:38:27,951 Then the law caught up to this massive scam. 600 00:38:30,495 --> 00:38:34,750 [Hoffenberg] I stood up, plead guilty, and accepted the responsibility. 601 00:38:35,167 --> 00:38:38,462 My sentence was for 20 years in federal prison... 602 00:38:39,796 --> 00:38:43,425 and I didn't turn evidence against him 603 00:38:43,508 --> 00:38:48,388 because Jeffrey Epstein told me he was a cooperating witness 604 00:38:48,472 --> 00:38:51,600 for the United States Department of Justice in the past 605 00:38:52,017 --> 00:38:54,102 and he had traction with them. 606 00:38:54,561 --> 00:38:59,900 I believe that Jeffrey Epstein would have been able to discredit me 607 00:38:59,983 --> 00:39:03,820 and say he was the White Knight and he was immaculate, 608 00:39:04,321 --> 00:39:06,823 and I knew that was his plan. 609 00:39:08,658 --> 00:39:13,914 You can't grasp the magnitude of this man's controlling effect. 610 00:39:13,997 --> 00:39:19,002 Jeffrey Epstein was able to control and manipulate people 611 00:39:19,544 --> 00:39:21,630 in an extreme method. 612 00:39:22,839 --> 00:39:24,591 That was typical Jeffrey Epstein. 613 00:39:25,592 --> 00:39:28,720 It's very clear that that is Jeffrey's MO, 614 00:39:28,804 --> 00:39:33,975 is to hold things over people, hold their secrets over people, I suspect. 615 00:39:34,434 --> 00:39:36,353 Um, you know, there's a pattern here. 616 00:39:38,146 --> 00:39:43,193 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein's methods started with Leslie Wexner 617 00:39:43,527 --> 00:39:47,739 when Jeffrey Epstein sold his soul to Leslie Wexner 618 00:39:47,823 --> 00:39:50,158 for several billion dollars of investment. 619 00:39:58,959 --> 00:40:04,423 [man] Jeff Epstein met Les Wexner somewhere around 1986. 620 00:40:08,844 --> 00:40:11,555 This is Mr. Wexner's gate house, 621 00:40:12,013 --> 00:40:15,225 and beyond that gate house is a massive compound 622 00:40:15,308 --> 00:40:19,229 and the most expensive house in central Ohio. 623 00:40:21,398 --> 00:40:25,986 Les Wexner started out in 1963 624 00:40:26,403 --> 00:40:30,532 opening the women's fashion apparel shop, The Limited. 625 00:40:31,241 --> 00:40:34,161 Les bought various other brands, 626 00:40:34,786 --> 00:40:38,039 Abercrombie & Fitch and Victoria's Secret. 627 00:40:38,874 --> 00:40:42,335 Through all of that, became a multi-billionaire. 628 00:40:43,336 --> 00:40:47,841 At some point,  Les Wexner provided a power of attorney 629 00:40:47,924 --> 00:40:51,761 to Jeffrey Epstein over his financial affairs. 630 00:40:53,096 --> 00:40:57,976 I was astonished because Les Wexner is not the kind of guy 631 00:40:58,059 --> 00:41:01,521 who gives up control over anything. 632 00:41:02,063 --> 00:41:04,983 Epstein was this Svengali figure 633 00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:09,196 that seems to have some unexplainable grip, 634 00:41:09,279 --> 00:41:11,615 uh, over this titan of industry. 635 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,661 There are people in the late '80s, early '90s 636 00:41:16,745 --> 00:41:20,207 that referred to Epstein  as "the boyfriend." 637 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:27,047 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein was working with both of us at the same time. 638 00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:32,010 He was going to Ohio regularly on a jet 639 00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:35,555 that was provided to Jeffrey by Leslie Wexner. 640 00:41:37,224 --> 00:41:41,269 Epstein explained to me personally 641 00:41:41,353 --> 00:41:47,692 that he could control the emotions of Leslie Wexner easily 642 00:41:48,068 --> 00:41:51,279 because Leslie Wexner was fascinated 643 00:41:51,363 --> 00:41:54,866 and Wexner totally adored Epstein. 644 00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:58,036 [Edwards] Do you consider yourself to be bisexual? 645 00:41:59,454 --> 00:42:00,789 -No. -[Edwards] Okay. 646 00:42:01,873 --> 00:42:05,335 In any even, you did develop a sexual relationship 647 00:42:05,418 --> 00:42:08,171 with Leslie Wexner at some point in time, is that true? 648 00:42:08,255 --> 00:42:09,089 No. 649 00:42:11,091 --> 00:42:16,179 [Hoffenberg] Epstein told me how he planned to manipulate and control 650 00:42:16,263 --> 00:42:20,100 Leslie Wexner's fortune of billions of dollars 651 00:42:20,433 --> 00:42:25,188 so that Jeffrey Epstein could invest 652 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,733 and make substantial income. 653 00:42:41,454 --> 00:42:43,915 In 2019, Les Wexner revealed 654 00:42:43,999 --> 00:42:47,002 that he had cut ties with Epstein back in 2007. 655 00:42:48,336 --> 00:42:52,340 He said he discovered Epstein had stolen more than 46 million dollars from him. 656 00:42:52,424 --> 00:42:54,384 He didn't explain why he didn't press charges. 657 00:42:56,386 --> 00:42:58,096 [Les Wexner] Being taken advantage of 658 00:42:58,597 --> 00:43:02,309 by someone who was, uh, so sick, 659 00:43:02,392 --> 00:43:05,103 so cunning, uh, so depraved... 660 00:43:05,562 --> 00:43:06,438 uhm... 661 00:43:06,896 --> 00:43:10,692 is something that I'm embarrassed that I was even close to. 662 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:23,538 [sinister music] 663 00:43:28,501 --> 00:43:30,587 [woman] I was, uh, a model and actress. 664 00:43:30,670 --> 00:43:32,213 [man] Alicia! What's up? 665 00:43:32,756 --> 00:43:34,382 [Alicia Arden] When my friend said, 666 00:43:34,466 --> 00:43:37,761 "This guy can get you in the Victoria's Secret catalog," 667 00:43:37,844 --> 00:43:38,970 I jumped. 668 00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:45,644 Jeffrey Epstein was staying at Shutters hotel in Santa Monica, California. 669 00:43:45,727 --> 00:43:47,896 So I met him at his hotel room. 670 00:43:48,271 --> 00:43:51,441 He said he knows  the owner of Victoria's Secret. 671 00:43:51,858 --> 00:43:55,403 So he started opening my portfolio of pictures... 672 00:43:56,363 --> 00:43:57,656 and then he said, 673 00:43:57,739 --> 00:43:59,866 "Let me see you in your bra and underwear." 674 00:43:59,949 --> 00:44:05,330 Then he started putting his hands on me and my hips and my butt. 675 00:44:06,706 --> 00:44:11,127 I really felt at the time that I was going to be raped or attacked. 676 00:44:11,544 --> 00:44:13,505 I ran out of the room crying. 677 00:44:15,006 --> 00:44:18,843 I drove to the Santa Monica Police Department to file a police report. 678 00:44:21,096 --> 00:44:23,390 I don't remember him ever being investigated. 679 00:44:23,473 --> 00:44:24,683 No one called me. 680 00:44:26,226 --> 00:44:28,103 He didn't get in trouble over it. 681 00:44:28,561 --> 00:44:32,065 It was like nothing really ever happened. 682 00:44:48,248 --> 00:44:51,418 [man] I've been a private investigator now for about ten years, 683 00:44:51,501 --> 00:44:54,671 but I'd say 80% of my job is... 684 00:44:55,588 --> 00:44:57,549 on the street finding information. 685 00:44:58,633 --> 00:45:01,553 When I started working on this case for Brad Edwards, 686 00:45:02,303 --> 00:45:07,016 he told me that the FBI is doing a parallel case, 687 00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,977 but they really don't have much. 688 00:45:09,227 --> 00:45:11,938 It was just really going along slow. 689 00:45:12,981 --> 00:45:16,317 I'm a fan of the FBI. I work very closely with them. 690 00:45:16,943 --> 00:45:19,529 So I said, "Well, okay. Maybe I can speed it up for them." 691 00:45:20,113 --> 00:45:22,782 I had one daughter at the time when I started working the case 692 00:45:22,866 --> 00:45:24,033 who was 21, 693 00:45:24,617 --> 00:45:27,036 and one daughter was 15. 694 00:45:29,581 --> 00:45:31,791 It didn't only make me think about my own daughters, 695 00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:34,836 it made me think about all the years I spent in law enforcement 696 00:45:34,919 --> 00:45:40,425 that I had to interview abused girls or girls that were victims of a pedophile 697 00:45:40,759 --> 00:45:43,303 and how broken these girls became. 698 00:45:46,931 --> 00:45:51,770 These are the girls that I have been able to identify myself that were victims, 699 00:45:52,145 --> 00:45:54,355 thirteen, and 14, and 15 years old. 700 00:45:54,814 --> 00:45:56,900 As you can see, there's a volume of them. 701 00:45:58,359 --> 00:46:01,780 I started going to the depressed areas of West Palm Beach, 702 00:46:01,863 --> 00:46:03,573 to these neighborhoods, 703 00:46:03,656 --> 00:46:05,617 and I would meet someone, 704 00:46:06,117 --> 00:46:09,496 or one of the girls that Brad was representing would know someone, 705 00:46:09,579 --> 00:46:10,914 give me a lead, 706 00:46:10,997 --> 00:46:15,293 and that's how I started finding girl after girl after girl. 707 00:46:16,586 --> 00:46:20,507 I think I must have found  like 46 other girls that were assaulted. 708 00:46:21,049 --> 00:46:23,760 Some of the victims were very reluctant to talk to me, 709 00:46:23,843 --> 00:46:26,137 but I was at least able to get their names, 710 00:46:26,221 --> 00:46:29,766 who they were and where they lived, which I later gave to the FBI. 711 00:46:29,849 --> 00:46:33,228 [sinister music] 712 00:46:37,482 --> 00:46:38,525 Everybody feared him, 713 00:46:38,608 --> 00:46:42,612 and fear was his greatest asset. 714 00:46:42,695 --> 00:46:45,073 I mean, that's what gave him his power. 715 00:46:46,491 --> 00:46:49,536 So I took it upon myself as civil prosecutor, 716 00:46:49,619 --> 00:46:53,289 and I served Jeffrey Epstein for a deposition 717 00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:56,251 and tried to achieve justice  for the victims. 718 00:46:58,127 --> 00:47:00,964 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein, how long have you been  719 00:47:01,047 --> 00:47:04,300 sexually attracted to underage minor females? 720 00:47:05,009 --> 00:47:07,262 [lawyer] Objection. Harassing, argumentative. 721 00:47:07,345 --> 00:47:08,429 Are you kidding? 722 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:15,019 [Edwards] No, I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging any secrets here, right? 723 00:47:16,855 --> 00:47:17,939 [lawyer] Move to strike. 724 00:47:19,732 --> 00:47:23,653 I was starting to really get on Jeffrey Epstein's nerves for sure. 725 00:47:23,736 --> 00:47:25,905 There's no doubt. Was I trying to? 726 00:47:26,406 --> 00:47:27,240 I guess so. 727 00:47:29,075 --> 00:47:30,034 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein? 728 00:47:30,118 --> 00:47:30,952 Yeah. 729 00:47:31,536 --> 00:47:33,830 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 730 00:47:35,957 --> 00:47:37,000 Wait, say that again? 731 00:47:37,375 --> 00:47:39,669 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 732 00:47:39,919 --> 00:47:43,298 [sighs] You know, I'd like to... Again, I'd like to respond to all your... 733 00:47:43,381 --> 00:47:45,592 If any questions seem to be relevant, 734 00:47:45,675 --> 00:47:48,928 but I would like to respond to any relevant question at this time. 735 00:47:49,012 --> 00:47:52,307 However, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers 736 00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:54,767 to the questions relevant to this lawsuit today. 737 00:47:55,226 --> 00:47:58,229 I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right 738 00:47:58,313 --> 00:47:59,898 to effective representation. 739 00:48:00,565 --> 00:48:04,569 Accordingly then, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights 740 00:48:04,652 --> 00:48:06,404 in the United States Constitution. 741 00:48:14,203 --> 00:48:15,246 [Mike Fisten] Pretty soon, 742 00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:18,666 Epstein's investigators started conducting surveillance on Brad. 743 00:48:19,208 --> 00:48:21,920 They were trying to find out 744 00:48:22,003 --> 00:48:26,132 if they can catch Brad doing anything wrong after hours, 745 00:48:26,215 --> 00:48:28,968 during hours, then try to blackmail him. 746 00:48:31,054 --> 00:48:32,138 But then, 747 00:48:32,221 --> 00:48:36,017 it became intimidation because they started surveilling Brad's house, 748 00:48:36,726 --> 00:48:38,186 where his wife and kids live. 749 00:48:39,103 --> 00:48:42,398 [Edwards] When my wife noticed that somebody was following her, I thought, 750 00:48:42,482 --> 00:48:45,944 "Okay, it's just getting out of hand. Now that's my family." 751 00:48:46,861 --> 00:48:50,531 He tried to intimidate me into just abandoning my clients, 752 00:48:50,823 --> 00:48:53,576 which I was never going to do. That was never going to happen. 753 00:48:56,621 --> 00:48:58,623 [Reiter] They were investigating the victims as well. 754 00:48:58,706 --> 00:49:01,626 We had several victims report to us that 755 00:49:01,709 --> 00:49:07,173 people posing as law enforcement officers were contacting the victims and... 756 00:49:08,049 --> 00:49:10,218 in some cases, intimidating them. 757 00:49:10,301 --> 00:49:12,720 [sinister music] 758 00:49:16,557 --> 00:49:17,892 [Rivera] I started noticing 759 00:49:17,976 --> 00:49:20,561 there were cars that would sit at the end of my street. 760 00:49:20,645 --> 00:49:23,481 I had these people constantly watching me. 761 00:49:24,357 --> 00:49:27,735 So I called my attorney, and I told him what was going on. 762 00:49:28,152 --> 00:49:29,195 Brad figured out 763 00:49:29,278 --> 00:49:32,573 that most of these vehicles were actually private investigators 764 00:49:32,657 --> 00:49:34,701 that were following and watching me. 765 00:49:35,994 --> 00:49:37,662 While she was sleeping in her bed, 766 00:49:37,745 --> 00:49:39,872 Jeffrey Epstein's investigators set their car up 767 00:49:39,956 --> 00:49:41,457 across the street from her house, 768 00:49:41,541 --> 00:49:44,919 and just shined their bright lights through her window all night. 769 00:49:48,047 --> 00:49:50,383 [Rivera] So Brad sent Mike Fisten over. 770 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,886 They had this private investigator war, 771 00:49:53,970 --> 00:49:57,098 cameras against one another, recording each other. 772 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,809 [Fisten] When I showed up, he was still here. 773 00:49:59,892 --> 00:50:01,436 I took pictures of his car, 774 00:50:01,811 --> 00:50:03,938 and then I took pictures of him in his car. 775 00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:06,524 With me there looking at him, 776 00:50:07,066 --> 00:50:08,401 he's still videotaping. 777 00:50:09,736 --> 00:50:11,946 It was really... It was kind of scary. 778 00:50:12,488 --> 00:50:16,242 Mike puts me in his car and he says, "We're going to get out of here." 779 00:50:16,325 --> 00:50:17,618 [Fisten] Don't follow her. 780 00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:24,876 [Rivera] And he drove me like hours down south and like put me in a hotel, 781 00:50:25,376 --> 00:50:28,296 where I hid and was basically just told like, 782 00:50:28,379 --> 00:50:30,715 "Your family's going to be safer if you're not home 783 00:50:30,798 --> 00:50:33,718 because they're not gonna... harass you now." 784 00:50:35,053 --> 00:50:38,765 Why do I have to make my family... 785 00:50:39,682 --> 00:50:44,437 safe from somebody who should be sitting in jail? 786 00:50:45,021 --> 00:50:47,023 [insects buzzing and chirping] 787 00:50:50,443 --> 00:50:52,487 [birds chirping] 788 00:51:00,286 --> 00:51:02,121 [Reiter] This was a cooperative investigation 789 00:51:02,205 --> 00:51:04,916 between the FBI and the US attorney's office. 790 00:51:05,416 --> 00:51:08,503 Although we were not an official partner to the investigation, 791 00:51:08,586 --> 00:51:10,004 they kept us informed. 792 00:51:10,088 --> 00:51:13,883 We cooperated, we introduced them to the victims that we knew of, 793 00:51:14,133 --> 00:51:17,220 we gave them all of the background information, 794 00:51:17,303 --> 00:51:20,890 and what's written between the lines that doesn't appear in a report. 795 00:51:21,849 --> 00:51:25,186 [Fisten] The agent on the case, Kuyrkendall, is a great agent. 796 00:51:25,937 --> 00:51:30,191 And she put together this case against this pedophile 797 00:51:30,691 --> 00:51:35,238 that was going to put him in prison the rest of his life 798 00:51:35,321 --> 00:51:37,532 if he just gets convicted of one count. 799 00:51:37,615 --> 00:51:40,743 The government had a plethora of information at their fingertips. 800 00:51:40,827 --> 00:51:44,288 They had 35 to 40 different victims that were willing to give testimony. 801 00:51:44,872 --> 00:51:48,584 They had information showing victims being transported across state lines, 802 00:51:48,668 --> 00:51:51,629 whether it be in private planes or on commercial flights. 803 00:51:51,712 --> 00:51:54,966 So, they had a 53-page indictment prepared 804 00:51:55,383 --> 00:51:57,885 because they had just an immense amount of information 805 00:51:57,969 --> 00:51:59,804 that they could charge Epstein with. 806 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:04,517 [Reiter] I asked for an appointment with Alex Acosta. 807 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,396 Alex Acosta at the time was the US attorney. 808 00:52:09,772 --> 00:52:14,193 I met with him and his team in Mr. Acosta's office. 809 00:52:14,277 --> 00:52:18,364 I told them that I would like to know from them 810 00:52:18,447 --> 00:52:21,409 that they were going to prosecute this case, 811 00:52:21,492 --> 00:52:26,414 and follow through with it, and, uh, get justice for the victims. 812 00:52:26,998 --> 00:52:29,917 I left my meeting with Alex Acosta thinking 813 00:52:30,001 --> 00:52:33,337 that Jeffrey Epstein would go to jail for the rest of his life. 814 00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:37,717 [sinister music] 815 00:52:41,262 --> 00:52:43,347 The case had been turned over to the federal government 816 00:52:43,431 --> 00:52:44,390 for more than two years, 817 00:52:45,099 --> 00:52:46,976 but I hadn't heard anything. 818 00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:51,731 I just want to know what's going on, so I call and speak with Marie Villafaña 819 00:52:51,814 --> 00:52:53,482 of the US attorney's office, 820 00:52:53,566 --> 00:52:57,612 and she confirmed that this is a massive case. 821 00:52:57,695 --> 00:53:00,948 I started asking when she thought a trial was actually going to happen, 822 00:53:01,449 --> 00:53:04,243 and I remember her telling me that, 823 00:53:04,535 --> 00:53:06,329 "There's just a lot that I want to tell you, 824 00:53:06,412 --> 00:53:10,041 and I know that your heart's in the right place, and mine is too. 825 00:53:10,124 --> 00:53:13,502 There's a lot that I want to tell you, Brad, that I can't tell you." 826 00:53:13,961 --> 00:53:16,797 And that's when I started thinking something was going on. 827 00:53:18,007 --> 00:53:21,761 [Reiter] Suddenly, when we'd call the FBI agents, 828 00:53:21,844 --> 00:53:23,971 they would tell us they were forbidden to talk 829 00:53:24,055 --> 00:53:27,225 with any representative of Palm Beach Police Department about the case. 830 00:53:27,308 --> 00:53:29,894 It's the only time that ever happened in my 30 years 831 00:53:29,977 --> 00:53:31,520 as a law enforcement officer. 832 00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:37,235 [male reporter] Epstein's personal 727 aircraft 833 00:53:37,318 --> 00:53:40,363 arrived at PBIA from Newark at 5:00 p.m. 834 00:53:40,613 --> 00:53:42,949 The investor, traveling with a small entourage, 835 00:53:43,032 --> 00:53:46,827 was met at the private Galaxy Aviation by a black Escalade and a driver. 836 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,247 Sources tell News Channel 5 that Kenneth Starr, 837 00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:53,209 now a top lawyer in Los Angeles, will arrive here tomorrow morning. 838 00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:58,881 [Fisten] The US attorney Acosta met with Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers. 839 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,678 The next thing, not only was the indictment gone, 840 00:54:03,761 --> 00:54:06,138 the FBI case was stopped. 841 00:54:06,222 --> 00:54:08,474 So the FBI agents were shook up... 842 00:54:09,225 --> 00:54:14,105 very upset, and started voicing their opposition... 843 00:54:14,814 --> 00:54:16,232 to what had occurred. 844 00:54:17,441 --> 00:54:20,319 [Maria Farmer] The FBI agent, Nesbitt Kuyrkendall, 845 00:54:20,403 --> 00:54:22,029 I was so impressed by her. 846 00:54:22,113 --> 00:54:25,908 She was very dedicated to the women in Florida. 847 00:54:26,575 --> 00:54:29,996 She called me really upset one day, and she said, 848 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:34,000 "Maria, I know you're hesitant about testifying because you're afraid, 849 00:54:34,333 --> 00:54:36,752 and I just want you to know I don't know if it'll even matter 850 00:54:36,836 --> 00:54:39,046 'cause things are really falling apart." 851 00:54:39,130 --> 00:54:42,049 I contacted Kuyrkendall myself, and she was in tears. 852 00:54:42,133 --> 00:54:47,305 She was actually crying on the phone, in tears, that this happened. 853 00:54:47,638 --> 00:54:49,890 She felt so bad for these victims 854 00:54:49,974 --> 00:54:53,269 because she told these victims she's going to put this guy away. 855 00:54:54,061 --> 00:54:59,483 Nobody knows why US Attorney Acosta shut this case down. 856 00:55:00,985 --> 00:55:02,862 To me, that's bullshit. 73675

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