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TODAY, I'M FEELING NERVES,
AND I HAVE FOR A WEEK OR TWO.
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IT'S JUST A VERY HARD THING
FOR ME TO THINK ABOUT.
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THOSE ARE THINGS
YOU DON'T LIKE TO EVEN REMEMBER.
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IT WAS WICKED, REALLY.
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IT'S BEEN OVER 40 YEARS
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SINCE WE WENT THROUGH
THIS EPISODE,
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BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS
YOU JUST DON'T FORGET.
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IT WAS A PAINFUL,
IT WAS A DESTRUCTIVE,
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IT WAS AN EVIL EXPERIENCE.
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IT'S AS IF
SOMEBODY CAME DOWN
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AND PICKED HER OFF
THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
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SHE JUST DISAPPEARED.
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IT'S JUST LIKE YOU'RE
BEING RIPPED APART, REALLY.
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I- I COULDN'T BELIEVE
THIS WAS HAPPENING TO US.
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A BODY COULD BE
JUST COVERED WITH SNOW.
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WE HAD NO IDEA WHERE SHE WAS --
ALIVE OR DEAD.
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I SEE HER BLOND HAIR FIRST,
YOU KNOW, DOWN A WAYS,
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AND HER SMILE.
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PEOPLE WANTED TO BE
WITH LINDA.
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SHE WAS SO EXCITED
ABOUT SCHOOL.
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IT WAS NICE TO SEE.
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I DROVE HER TO HER FIRST ROOM
AT COLLEGE.
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MOM, ARE YOU OKAY?
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I DON'T KNOW.
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I GUESS...
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UNPACKING
ALL THESE THINGS
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JUST BRINGS BACK
A LOT OF MEMORIES.
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I HAD TEARS IN MY EYES.
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LOOK!
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IT'S MR. WHISKERS.
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I'VE HAD THIS
SINCE FOREVER.
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I WAS ONE WHO ALWAYS SAID,
"LET YOUR CHILDREN GO."
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AND I WAS GLAD SHE COULD.
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MOM, STOP.
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I'M GONNA BE HOME
FOR THANKSGIVING...
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AND CHRISTMAS.
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I KNOW. I KNOW.
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BESIDES, I WILL HAVE
MR. WHISKERS TO PROTECT ME.
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SMELLS SO GOOD.
THANK YOU, REVEREND.
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PLEASE, CALL ME HOWARD.
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AND YOU CAN
THANK CAROL.
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SHE'S THE QUEEN
OF THE CASSEROLE.
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WE WERE HAVING DINNER
IN OUR HOME
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WITH SOME
VERY CLOSE FRIENDS.
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BETTER TASTE IT
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BEFORE WE START
HANDING OUT
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THE ROYAL TITLES.
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I REMEMBER GETTING
THE PHONE CALL.
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GEE.
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I BETTER GRAB THAT.
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HELLO. HOWARD VELZY.
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WE WERE NOTIFIED
BY CAMPUS SECURITY
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THAT LINDA WAS MISSING.
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SHE HAD BEEN
ON A STUDY DATE
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WITH HER BOYFRIEND
IN THE AFTERNOON,
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AND SHE HAD EXCUSED HERSELF
TO GO DOWN TO TOWN
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TO BUY A CHRISTMAS PRESENT
FOR HER MOTHER,
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AND SHE DIDN'T
RETURN TO CAMPUS.
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AND HER ROOMMATE
REPORTED HER MISSING.
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THAT DOESN'T
MAKE ANY SENSE.
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IT'S NOT LIKE LINDA
TO JUST LEAVE.
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THE FEELINGS I HAD --
PROBABLY THE FIRST WAS DENIAL.
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"YOU HAVEN'T GOT
THE FACTS STRAIGHT.
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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING.
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YOU'VE GOT THE WRONG GIRL"
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OR "YOU'VE GOT THE WRONG
INFORMATION" OR WHATEVER.
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WHEN THEY INFORMED ME
THAT SHE HAD BEEN MISSING
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SINCE FRIDAY NIGHT --
AND THIS WAS SATURDAY NIGHT --
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LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU
CALLING ME NOW FOR?"
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THAT WAS LIKE
24 HOURS AGO.
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WHY WOULD YOU WAIT SO LONG
TO LET US KNOW?
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NO, SOMETHING'S WRONG.
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SHE -- SHE --
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IF SHE WAS GOING SOMEWHERE,
SHE WOULD TELL SOMEONE.
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THE UNIVERSITY'S POLICY
WAS TO WAIT 24 HOURS
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IF SOMEBODY
WAS REPORTED MISSING,
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SO THEY DIDN'T CALL US
UNTIL SATURDAY NIGHT.
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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO REACT?
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WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
ABOUT THIS?
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AND THEN, HOW DO I
EXPLAIN THIS TO CAROL?
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I GOT TO TELL HER SOMETHING.
WHAT DO I TELL HER?
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LINDA TALKED TO PEOPLE.
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SHE -- SHE WASN'T, LIKE,
SECRETIVE OR, YOU KNOW,
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DOING THINGS ON THE SLY.
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I JUST KNEW THERE WAS
SOMETHING WRONG.
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YEAH, WE -- WE --
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THAT'S THE WAY
IT HIT ME, TOO, IS,
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THIS WAS VERY
UNCHARACTERISTIC OF HER.
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YOU KNOW, THAT MADE
NO SENSE AT ALL.
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I CRIED ALL NIGHT.
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I HAD A SENSE THEN,
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EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK
I'VE EVEN SAID IT TO ANYBODY,
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THAT THIS WAS NOT GOOD.
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THIS WAS REALLY NOT GOOD.
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SOMETHING'S WRONG.
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WE'VE GOT TO GET UP THERE
AND START ASKING QUESTIONS.
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THE NEXT MORNING,
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HOWARD AND CAROL DRIVE
200 MILES NORTH TO ONEONTA.
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LISTEN.
WE'RE GONNA FIND HER.
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OKAY? LET'S TRY
NOT TO PANIC.
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I- I-I KNOW.
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I- I JUST WISH I WAS
PAYING MORE ATTENTION.
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I REALLY DON'T KNOW
WHERE SHE COULD HAVE GONE.
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FOR HER BOYFRIEND
NOT TO KNOW WHERE SHE WAS
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MADE NO SENSE AT ALL.
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HAVE YOU TALKED
TO HER FRIENDS?
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YES, MRS. VELZY --
ALL THE ONES I KNOW, AT LEAST.
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HOW ABOUT HER ROOMMATE?
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WHEN DID SHE GET
IN TOUCH WITH YOU?
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UM, SHE GOT IN TOUCH --
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UM, I-I DON'T REMEMBER,
HONESTLY.
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UM, SOON AFTER...
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IT WAS A FEELING
OF ABSOLUTE DISTRESS.
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I- I CAN'T DESCRIBE IT.
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EVERYBODY AGREED THAT
SHE WOULD HAVE TOLD SOMEONE
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IF SHE WERE GOING AWAY.
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HOWARD.
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HER CONTACTS.
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WE FOUND OUT THAT SHE'D LEFT
HER CONTACT LENSES THERE.
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AND IT JUST WASN'T LIKE LINDA
TO LEAVE THINGS.
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IT JUST SEEMED SINISTER TO ME.
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AND IT --
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I DIDN'T LOSE THAT FEELING.
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WE SHOULD TELL
THE STATE TROOPERS ABOUT THAT.
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YOU SHOULD COME WITH US.
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THE -- THE TROOPERS?
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YEAH.
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THEY --
THEY ALREADY CAME.
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THEY ASKED
A LOT OF QUESTIONS
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SINCE I WAS THE LAST
TO SEE HER ON CAMPUS.
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HE WAS CONSIDERED A SUSPECT
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BECAUSE HE WAS
THE LAST PERSON TO SEE HER.
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BUT HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
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"I LIKED HER.
WHY WOULD I DO ANYTHING?
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I MEAN, WE WERE
GETTING ALONG FINE."
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EARLY IN THE INVESTIGATION,
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WE HAD TO INTERVIEW
HER BOYFRIEND
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BECAUSE HE WAS GONNA MEET HER
THAT EVENING,
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AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
WAS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
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EVERY LEAD YOU GET,
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
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"MISSING PERSON --
LINDA VELZY, 5'5",
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LONG BLOND HAIR,
BLUE EYES, 18 YEARS OF AGE,
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LAST SEEN WEARING A BLACK COAT
WITH A HOOD, BLUE JEANS,
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STRING BRACELET WITH LIGHT BLUE
BEADS ON RIGHT WRIST."
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SHE HAD LEFT
THE AFTERNOON OF THE 9th
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TO GO DOWNTOWN TO ONEONTA
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TO BUY A CHRISTMAS PRESENT
FOR HER MOTHER.
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AND THEN SHE WAS GONNA
GO OVER TO CHESTNUT STREET
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TO LOOK AT A ROOM
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THAT SHE WAS THINKING ABOUT
RENTING FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER.
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WHEN LINDA WAS HERE,
DID SHE SEEM ANXIOUS
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OR MAYBE IN A HURRY?
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NO.
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I WOULDN'T SAY
SHE SEEMED ANXIOUS.
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DO YOU REMEMBER
WHAT TIME SHE LEFT?
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YEAH. IT WAS --
IT WAS JUST BEFORE 6:00.
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I THINK SHE MENTIONED
WALKING BACK TO CAMPUS
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OR HITCHING A RIDE.
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SHE SAID THAT?
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THE ROAD TO THE CAMPUS
GOES UP A RATHER STEEP HILL.
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IT WAS SNOWING
THAT AFTERNOON,
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SO PROBABLY WAS
A LITTLE SLIPPERY IN SPOTS.
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AND SO, SHE MIGHT HAVE JUST
FELT SAFER IN CATCHING A RIDE
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THAN WALKING UP THE HILL.
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I DON'T KNOW.
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DO YOU THINK
SHE'S OKAY?
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YEAH, I'M SURE
SHE'S FINE.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
AND KEEP AN EYE OUT, OKAY?
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AS A MATTER OF FACT,
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WE HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER
AT CAMP ON THANKSGIVING,
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AND I REMEMBER HAVING
A DISCUSSION WITH HER.
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I THINK SHE BROUGHT UP
THE SUBJECT ABOUT HITCHHIKING,
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AND I REMEMBER TELLING HER,
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"LINDA, I DON'T THINK IT'S A
GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO HITCHHIKE."
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LINDA...
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YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.
THAT'S DANGEROUS.
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NO, DAD. IT'S NOT --
IT'S NOT THAT DANGEROUS.
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I MEAN, LIKE,
IT'S LESS THAN A MILE.
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I TOLD HER
I DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA.
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DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE
I COULD HAVE DONE AS A PARENT.
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AT THIS POINT
IN THE INVESTIGATION,
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WE WEREN'T CERTAIN
THAT SHE WAS HITCHHIKING.
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WE DECIDED WE WOULD USE DOGS
TO TRY TO FIND HER.
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WE WENT TO CHESTNUT STREET
AND MET THE BLOODHOUND HANDLER.
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HE HAD SOME SCENT MATERIAL
THAT HAD BEEN PROVIDED
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BY A ROOMMATE
FROM HER DORM ROOM.
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AND HE LET THE DOG
SMELL THE SCENT MATERIAL,
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AND THEN HE WENT OUT
THE FRONT DOOR
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AND DOWN THE STAIRS.
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THEN THE DOG LOST THE SCENT,
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WHICH IS INDICATIVE
THAT A VEHICLE
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PROBABLY PICKED HER UP THERE.
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SHE COULD HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED.
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SHE COULD HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED,
MOVED SOMEWHERE.
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SHE HADN'T GONE AWAY
VOLUNTARILY.
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IF LINDA IS ALIVE,
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THE BRUTAL WEATHER
MEANS HER LIFE MAY BE IN DANGER.
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THE ONEONTA AREA
GETS HARSH WINTERS --
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A LOT OF SNOW,
COLD TEMPERATURES.
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SHE'D HAVE TO BE
INSIDE SOMEPLACE,
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BECAUSE IT WAS
BELOW ZERO SOMETIMES.
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SHE WOULDN'T HAVE
SUSTAINED LIFE TOO LONG
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IN THE TEMPERATURES
AT THE TIME.
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IN ANY CASE LIKE THIS,
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YOU WANT TO FIND THEM
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE,
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AND SO, THE QUICKER
YOU CAN MOVE, THE BETTER.
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WE'VE THOUGHT OF EVERY
POSSIBLE THING AT THIS POINT.
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WE'RE VERY REALISTIC.
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BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL.
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I HAD NO IDEA, YOU KNOW,
HOW THINGS WOULD TURN OUT.
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WHO KNEW?
MAYBE A MIRACLE'D HAPPEN.
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FOR A LONG TIME,
I WOULD WAKE UP
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AND THINK IT WAS A DREAM
THAT I WAS HAVING.
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YOU'RE LIVING,
YOU'RE WALKING AROUND,
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BUT YOU'RE REALLY HALF DEAD.
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YOU CAN'T THINK
ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
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NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
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REVEREND VELZY
WAS A GOOD FATHER,
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AND HE WANTED TO DO
ANYTHING HE COULD
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TO HELP FIND HIS DAUGHTER,
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BECAUSE SHE'D BEEN MISSING
FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS
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AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW
WHERE SHE WAS.
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NOBODY DID.
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H- HOWARD, WHAT ARE YOU --
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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THINKING.
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WHEN I'M FACED
WITH A PROBLEM,
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I DON'T REST
UNTIL I FIND A SOLUTION.
228
00:12:21,258 --> 00:12:23,758
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
229
00:12:23,794 --> 00:12:25,960
WHAT IF WE GOT
THE NEWS INVOLVED?
230
00:12:25,996 --> 00:12:29,264
LIKE, USE THE MEDIA TO --
TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD.
231
00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,634
YOU THINK
THAT COULD WORK?
232
00:12:32,669 --> 00:12:35,036
WE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WOULD
GET SOME ATTENTION,
233
00:12:35,071 --> 00:12:37,038
BECAUSE WE WEREN'T
GETTING ANY ATTENTION.
234
00:12:37,073 --> 00:12:39,207
I THINK I KNOW SOMEONE
WHO CAN HELP.
235
00:12:39,242 --> 00:12:41,309
NOBODY CARED.
236
00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:42,544
WASN'T EVEN NEWSWORTHY.
237
00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,880
SO, WHAT HAPPENED WAS,
238
00:12:45,916 --> 00:12:47,415
ONE OF MY PARISHIONER'S FATHER
239
00:12:47,451 --> 00:12:51,252
HAD BEEN A CAMERAMAN
FOR "60 MINUTES."
240
00:12:51,288 --> 00:12:53,621
AND HE SAYS,
"CAN I BE OF ANY HELP?"
241
00:12:53,657 --> 00:12:56,024
WELL, THAT'S WHEN THINGS
BEGAN TO HAPPEN.
242
00:12:56,059 --> 00:12:58,259
LINDA VELZY WAS LAST SEEN HERE
ON WEST STREET IN ONEONTA
243
00:12:58,295 --> 00:13:01,129
ABOUT 6:00
ON THE NIGHT OF DECEMBER 9th.
244
00:13:01,164 --> 00:13:03,031
SHE WAS CARRYING
A LARGE PACKAGE --
245
00:13:03,066 --> 00:13:05,500
A CHRISTMAS GIFT
FOR HER MOTHER.
246
00:13:05,535 --> 00:13:07,969
THIS WAS NATIONAL NEWS
AT THIS POINT.
247
00:13:08,004 --> 00:13:12,707
WE HAD 26 BCI DETECTIVES
ALL OVER THE STATE OF NEW YORK
248
00:13:12,742 --> 00:13:18,079
DESCEND ON ONEONTA WITHIN
A MATTER OF, LITERALLY, HOURS,
249
00:13:18,114 --> 00:13:20,548
AND THEY HAD THOUSANDS
OF LEADS COMING
250
00:13:20,584 --> 00:13:23,485
'CAUSE NOW WE WERE NOW
A MEDIA BLITZ.
251
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,652
IF SOMEBODY SAID
252
00:13:24,688 --> 00:13:26,788
THEY THOUGHT THEY SAW HER
DOWN IN BINGHAMTON,
253
00:13:26,823 --> 00:13:28,289
SOMEBODY WENT TO BINGHAMTON.
254
00:13:28,325 --> 00:13:29,524
NO MATTER HOW FARFETCHED --
255
00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,125
I MEAN, EVERYTHING
FROM THE PSYCHICS
256
00:13:31,161 --> 00:13:33,561
TO THE TRACKING DOGS
THAT PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED,
257
00:13:33,597 --> 00:13:35,396
THEY WERE ALL ADDRESSED.
258
00:13:35,432 --> 00:13:37,098
ANYONE WITH INFORMATION
259
00:13:37,133 --> 00:13:38,600
ON LINDA VELZY'S WHEREABOUTS
260
00:13:38,635 --> 00:13:40,902
IS URGED TO CALL NEW YORK STATE TROOPERS
261
00:13:40,937 --> 00:13:42,337
IN THE ONEONTA OFFICE.
262
00:13:42,372 --> 00:13:44,506
THE SEARCH FOR LINDA SPREADS,
263
00:13:44,541 --> 00:13:48,209
BUT THE TERRAIN
MAKES THE JOB DIFFICULT.
264
00:13:48,245 --> 00:13:51,779
ONEONTA IS IN OTSEGO COUNTY
IN UPSTATE NEW YORK.
265
00:13:51,815 --> 00:13:54,215
IT'S A VALLEY
BETWEEN ROLLING HILLS,
266
00:13:54,251 --> 00:13:56,150
AND, IN FACT,
THE CITY OF THE MOUNTAINS --
267
00:13:56,186 --> 00:13:57,986
THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT.
268
00:14:00,524 --> 00:14:02,957
THEY'RE BACK ROADS,
DEAD-END ROADS.
269
00:14:02,993 --> 00:14:04,926
IN UPSTATE NEW YORK,
YOU CAN DUMP SOMEBODY,
270
00:14:04,961 --> 00:14:08,129
AND THERE'S NOBODY AROUND
FOR MILES.
271
00:14:09,866 --> 00:14:13,401
SO, I MEAN,
TRYING TO HIDE A BODY,
272
00:14:13,436 --> 00:14:15,637
THAT'S NO TRICK AT ALL.
273
00:14:17,574 --> 00:14:21,576
WE HAD NO IDEA
WHERE SHE WAS -- ALIVE OR DEAD.
274
00:14:21,611 --> 00:14:23,678
A BODY COULD BE
JUST COVERED WITH SNOW.
275
00:14:23,713 --> 00:14:24,846
IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN
THROWN OUT OF THE CAR
276
00:14:24,881 --> 00:14:26,014
AND COVERED WITH SNOW,
277
00:14:26,049 --> 00:14:27,615
AND YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T
FIND IT TILL SPRING
278
00:14:27,651 --> 00:14:29,851
UNLESS YOU HAD A TIP
WHERE IT WAS.
279
00:14:40,096 --> 00:14:42,697
DETECTIVE TIGHE,
STATE POLICE.
280
00:14:42,732 --> 00:14:45,934
WE GOT A CALL FROM THE
WATER SUPERINTENDENT FOR ONEONTA
281
00:14:45,969 --> 00:14:49,637
AND SAID THAT THE BACTERIA COUNT
WAS UP IN THE RESERVOIR,
282
00:14:49,673 --> 00:14:53,675
AND THAT WOULD BE INDICATIVE
OF A DECOMPOSING BODY.
283
00:14:53,710 --> 00:14:57,579
TO US, IT WAS A GOOD POSSIBILITY
THAT HER BODY WAS THERE.
284
00:14:57,614 --> 00:14:59,814
OKAY.
285
00:14:59,849 --> 00:15:00,982
WE'LL PUT
SOMETHING TOGETHER.
286
00:15:01,017 --> 00:15:03,017
SO THE DIVING DETAIL
WAS BROUGHT UP,
287
00:15:03,053 --> 00:15:04,919
AND THEY DOVE UNDER THE ICE,
WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS...
288
00:15:05,956 --> 00:15:07,288
...BECAUSE THEY'RE
UNDER THE ICE,
289
00:15:07,324 --> 00:15:10,525
AND IF THEY DON'T FIND THE HOLE,
THEY'RE NOT COMING UP.
290
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,594
IT WASN'T A JOB
THAT I'D WANT TO DO.
291
00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:16,464
THEY SEARCHED FOR TWO DAYS,
AND NOTHING WAS FOUND.
292
00:15:17,934 --> 00:15:20,435
IT'S DISAPPOINTING WHEN IT
TURNS OUT THERE'S NOTHING,
293
00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:22,570
BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
294
00:15:22,606 --> 00:15:24,739
THERE'S A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENTS
IN INVESTIGATIONS.
295
00:15:26,643 --> 00:15:28,142
HER BOYFRIEND WAS INTERVIEWED,
296
00:15:28,178 --> 00:15:31,546
AND HIS STATEMENTS
WERE CHECKED OUT.
297
00:15:31,581 --> 00:15:32,614
THERE WAS NOTHING,
298
00:15:32,649 --> 00:15:36,184
NOTHING THAT WOULD HAVE
INDICATED AT ALL
299
00:15:36,219 --> 00:15:38,386
HIS INVOLVEMENT.
300
00:15:38,421 --> 00:15:42,573
IT WAS A GOOD LEAD AT THE TIME
UNTIL HE WAS RULED OUT.
301
00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:46,494
FRUSTRATED,
DETECTIVES TRY A NEW APPROACH.
302
00:15:46,529 --> 00:15:47,895
LOOK, NOBODY'S
POINTING ANY FINGERS.
303
00:15:47,931 --> 00:15:49,263
WE JUST HAVE TO ASK
THE QUESTIONS.
304
00:15:49,299 --> 00:15:51,833
I'M NOT SURE
WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME.
305
00:15:51,868 --> 00:15:54,936
PAROLE OFFICERS
CONTACTED FOR THAT AREA
306
00:15:54,971 --> 00:15:56,738
AND GET A LIST OF PAROLEES
307
00:15:56,773 --> 00:16:00,808
THAT WERE INCARCERATED
FOR SEX-RELATED INCIDENTS,
308
00:16:00,844 --> 00:16:02,610
AND THERE WERE A LARGE NUMBER
OF PREVIOUS OFFENDERS
309
00:16:02,646 --> 00:16:03,845
THAT HAD TO BE INTERVIEWED.
310
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,747
OKAY,
YOU'RE FREE TO GO.
311
00:16:16,993 --> 00:16:19,160
MR. KNAPP,
HAVE A SEAT.
312
00:16:26,302 --> 00:16:28,436
ONE OF THE SUBJECTS
THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT
313
00:16:28,471 --> 00:16:30,338
WAS 26-YEAR-OLD RICKY KNAPP.
314
00:16:30,373 --> 00:16:32,006
WE'RE WORKING ON
A MISSING-PERSONS CASE
315
00:16:32,042 --> 00:16:33,207
INVOLVING A YOUNG WOMAN.
316
00:16:33,243 --> 00:16:35,309
RICKY KNAPP WAS OUT ON BAIL
317
00:16:35,345 --> 00:16:38,112
FOR AN INCIDENT
INVOLVING ANOTHER CO-ED.
318
00:16:38,148 --> 00:16:40,715
AND SHE WAS WALKING UP
WHAT THEY CALL A COW PATH,
319
00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:44,018
WHICH IS A TRAIL UP THE HILL
UP TO THE CAMPUS.
320
00:16:44,054 --> 00:16:45,486
IT'S A SHORTCUT.
321
00:16:45,522 --> 00:16:47,789
AND SHE WAS WALKING UP THAT
AND HE WAS HIDING IN THE BUSHES
322
00:16:47,824 --> 00:16:49,691
AND HE JUMPED OUT
AND GRABBED HER.
323
00:16:51,261 --> 00:16:52,794
YOU WANT TO TAKE
A LOOK AT THIS?
324
00:16:55,198 --> 00:16:56,364
WHAT ABOUT IT?
325
00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:03,838
WELL, YOU RAPED THIS GIRL.
326
00:17:03,873 --> 00:17:05,339
TERRORIZED HER.
327
00:17:07,177 --> 00:17:08,576
NOW, TWO WEEKS LATER,
328
00:17:08,611 --> 00:17:12,613
ANOTHER CO-ED, LINDA VELZY,
HAS GONE MISSING.
329
00:17:12,649 --> 00:17:15,516
YOU WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, WOULD YOU?
330
00:17:15,552 --> 00:17:16,551
WHY WOULD I DO ANYTHING
331
00:17:16,586 --> 00:17:18,953
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE
ALREADY WATCHING ME?
332
00:17:20,857 --> 00:17:22,557
IT WAS ONLY, LIKE,
THREE OR FOUR WEEKS
333
00:17:22,592 --> 00:17:26,494
BEFORE THIS INCIDENT
OCCURRED.
334
00:17:26,529 --> 00:17:30,431
HE WAS OUT ON BAIL, AND...
335
00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:35,103
THE M.O. WOULD FIT
THIS PICTURE, TOO.
336
00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:38,639
ON THE 9th, WERE YOU ANYWHERE
NEAR CHESTNUT STREET?
337
00:17:38,675 --> 00:17:41,342
CHESTNUT?
338
00:17:41,377 --> 00:17:43,411
ACTUALLY, YES.
339
00:17:43,446 --> 00:17:45,313
I WAS DRIVING UP CHESTNUT,
340
00:17:45,348 --> 00:17:47,315
AND I SAW THIS GIRL
WALKING OUT THERE.
341
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:48,483
IT WAS FREEZING.
342
00:17:48,518 --> 00:17:50,818
SO, I FIGURED
I'D HELP HER OUT.
343
00:17:50,854 --> 00:17:54,522
HE WAS GOING UP WEST STREET,
AND HE SAID HE SAW A HITCHHIKER,
344
00:17:54,557 --> 00:17:57,859
BUT SHE WAS WEARING A WHITE COAT
AND SHE HAD DARK HAIR.
345
00:17:57,894 --> 00:18:02,196
IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT DESCRIBED LINDA.
346
00:18:02,232 --> 00:18:03,931
AND HE SAID HE STOPPED AND
ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED A RIDE,
347
00:18:03,967 --> 00:18:05,633
AND SHE SAID NO.
348
00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:08,269
AND HE SAID,
"I WENT ON MY WAY."
349
00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:09,237
WOULD YOU MIND
COMING BACK TOMORROW
350
00:18:09,272 --> 00:18:12,440
AND TAKING
A LIE-DETECTOR TEST?
351
00:18:12,475 --> 00:18:14,642
WHATEVER YOU NEED,
DETECTIVE.
352
00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:17,011
I GOT NOTHING TO HIDE.
353
00:18:17,046 --> 00:18:18,679
WE DONE HERE?
354
00:18:18,715 --> 00:18:19,847
FOR NOW.
355
00:18:21,718 --> 00:18:24,318
BUT THEN, THE NEXT NIGHT,
HE DIDN'T CALL.
356
00:18:24,354 --> 00:18:25,853
ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR
GOT AHOLD OF HIM,
357
00:18:25,889 --> 00:18:29,423
AND HE SAID, "MY ATTORNEY
TOLD ME NOT TO TAKE IT,
358
00:18:29,459 --> 00:18:32,260
NOT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS,
SO I'M NOT GONNA."
359
00:18:32,295 --> 00:18:34,262
AFTER HIS ATTORNEY
MADE THE CALLS
360
00:18:34,297 --> 00:18:36,030
TO THE STATE POLICE
AND THE ONEONTA POLICE,
361
00:18:36,065 --> 00:18:37,131
HE WAS BASICALLY OFF-LIMITS,
362
00:18:37,167 --> 00:18:38,699
SO WE WEREN'T ABLE
TO INTERVIEW HIM
363
00:18:38,735 --> 00:18:40,968
OR DO A POLYGRAPH OR ANYTHING.
364
00:18:43,473 --> 00:18:47,275
WE HAD NO EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS
INVOLVED WITH LINDA VELZY,
365
00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:51,379
AND WE, IN FACT, DIDN'T KNOW
IF SHE WAS EVEN DECEASED.
366
00:18:51,414 --> 00:18:55,683
WE HAD NO BODY, SO WE REALLY
DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO GO ON.
367
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,518
WE WERE PRETTY MUCH
OUT OF OPTIONS.
368
00:19:00,323 --> 00:19:03,291
SO, I HAD NO REASON
TO SUSPECT ANYBODY ELSE --
369
00:19:03,326 --> 00:19:05,092
EVEN CONSIDER ANYBODY ELSE.
370
00:19:05,128 --> 00:19:07,495
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY SICK.
371
00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:10,097
HE WAS OBVIOUSLY
SEXUALLY PERVERTED.
372
00:19:12,869 --> 00:19:16,437
BUT THE QUESTION WAS,
WOULD I EVER SEE HER AGAIN?
373
00:19:16,472 --> 00:19:18,806
AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING?
WHAT WAS SHE GOING THROUGH?
374
00:19:20,643 --> 00:19:23,744
HE WAS NOT A NAIVE TEENAGER.
375
00:19:23,780 --> 00:19:28,165
HE'S AN EX-CON.
HE KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND.
376
00:19:28,201 --> 00:19:30,568
SO, WHAT'S A DETECTIVE
GOING TO DO?
377
00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:42,580
DETECTIVE.
378
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:44,515
MIND IF I COME IN?
379
00:19:44,551 --> 00:19:45,683
OKAY.
380
00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:58,029
WHAT'S GOING ON?
381
00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:00,031
WE, TALKED TO RICKY.
382
00:20:02,969 --> 00:20:05,236
WHAT'D HE SAY?
383
00:20:05,271 --> 00:20:06,737
HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
384
00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:09,640
UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S...
385
00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:10,942
HE'S LAWYERED UP.
386
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,320
SO, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT?
387
00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:23,721
WE KEEP LOOKING.
388
00:20:25,124 --> 00:20:29,093
BUT AS FAR AS RICKY GOES...
OUR HANDS ARE TIED.
389
00:20:29,128 --> 00:20:33,064
WE'D COME TO THE POINT
WHERE WE WERE LOSING CONFIDENCE
390
00:20:33,099 --> 00:20:36,100
THAT WE WOULD EVER
HAVE A SOLUTION --
391
00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:37,735
KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT HAD HAPPENED --
392
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:39,904
AND WE MAY NEVER FIND OUT.
393
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:45,843
I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA.
394
00:20:52,101 --> 00:20:54,001
I'M A PERSON OF FAITH,
395
00:20:54,037 --> 00:20:59,440
AND SO, I HELD ON TO THE BELIEF
THAT MAYBE SHE'D SHOW UP.
396
00:21:01,511 --> 00:21:03,010
BUT I DIDN'T
REALLY BELIEVE IT.
397
00:21:03,046 --> 00:21:06,714
WE KNEW -- WE KNEW
OUR LIVES HAD CHANGED.
398
00:21:06,749 --> 00:21:08,549
WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW.
399
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:14,155
I THINK OUR FAITH GROUNDED US
ENOUGH TO KNOW
400
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:18,826
THAT GOD WAS THERE WITH US
401
00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:22,096
AND THAT GOD
WAS CRYING WITH US.
402
00:21:22,131 --> 00:21:24,131
I NEVER GAVE UP HOPE,
403
00:21:24,167 --> 00:21:30,504
BUT IT WAS JUST TOO MANY SIGNS
THAT THINGS WERE NOT RIGHT.
404
00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:36,877
LINDA'S BROTHERS ARRIVE IN TOWN
TO JOIN THE SEARCH.
405
00:21:36,913 --> 00:21:38,312
WE DROVE UP
TO ONEONTA, TOO.
406
00:21:38,348 --> 00:21:40,047
MY PARENTS WERE
ALREADY UP THERE.
407
00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:42,016
WE THOUGHT MAYBE,
YOU KNOW, WE COULD --
408
00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,985
FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
RIGHT.
409
00:21:45,355 --> 00:21:46,654
WE WENT THROUGH
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
410
00:21:46,689 --> 00:21:48,522
WE ACTUALLY KNOCKED
ON THE DOORS OF THE HOUSES,
411
00:21:48,558 --> 00:21:51,292
ASKING THE PEOPLE
IF THEY KNEW ANYTHING.
412
00:21:51,327 --> 00:21:53,527
YOU KNOW, YOU JUST --
YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
413
00:21:53,563 --> 00:21:54,628
YOU WANTED TO KNOW,
414
00:21:54,664 --> 00:21:57,898
AND THERE WAS JUST
NO INFORMATION AT ALL.
415
00:21:57,934 --> 00:21:59,300
AND AFTER
TWO OR THREE DAYS,
416
00:21:59,335 --> 00:22:01,068
I THINK WE JUST KIND OF
FIGURED THERE WASN'T --
417
00:22:01,104 --> 00:22:03,070
WE WEREN'T REALLY
ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING.
418
00:22:08,678 --> 00:22:11,278
INVESTIGATORS
HAVE BEGUN TO FOCUS
419
00:22:11,314 --> 00:22:15,616
ON 26-YEAR-OLD TREE SURGEON
RICKY KNAPP.
420
00:22:15,651 --> 00:22:19,420
WE HAD NO EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS
INVOLVED WITH LINDA VELZY.
421
00:22:19,455 --> 00:22:21,555
WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE
MUCH TO GO ON.
422
00:22:23,826 --> 00:22:26,193
ALTHOUGH WE SUSPECTED
423
00:22:26,229 --> 00:22:29,797
AND HE WAS OUR PRIMARY SUSPECT
BY THIS POINT,
424
00:22:29,832 --> 00:22:31,232
THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO
425
00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,534
OTHER THAN JUST
KEEP FOLLOWING LEADS
426
00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:36,370
AND KEEPING AN EYE ON HIM.
427
00:22:36,406 --> 00:22:38,439
YOU THINK RICKY KNOWS
WE'RE WATCHING HIM?
428
00:22:38,474 --> 00:22:41,008
HE'S CERTAINLY STAYING
OUT OF TROUBLE.
429
00:22:41,044 --> 00:22:43,444
SO EITHER HE KNOWS
WE'RE ONTO HIM...
430
00:22:43,479 --> 00:22:45,279
OR ELSE HE'S TURNED OVER
A NEW LEAF.
431
00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:48,549
I DOUBT IT.
432
00:22:51,988 --> 00:22:53,287
IS THAT ARTHUR HITT?
433
00:22:53,322 --> 00:22:54,722
WHAT THE HELL
IS HE DOING HERE?
434
00:22:54,757 --> 00:22:57,024
THINK WE'RE ABOUT
TO FIND OUT.
435
00:22:57,060 --> 00:23:01,028
ARTHUR HITT
WAS A SELF-EMPLOYED LOGGER.
436
00:23:01,064 --> 00:23:04,498
HE WORKED ON OCCASION
WITH RICKY KNAPP.
437
00:23:04,534 --> 00:23:07,234
AND HE HAD SOME BRUSHES
WITH THE LAW --
438
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:11,038
IN FACT, HAD A ROBBERY PENDING
AT THE TIME.
439
00:23:11,074 --> 00:23:12,206
WELL, YOU'RE ABOUT
THE LAST PERSON
440
00:23:12,241 --> 00:23:13,741
I EXPECT TO SEE
IN HERE, ARTHUR.
441
00:23:16,779 --> 00:23:19,713
YOU KNOW THE COLLEGE GIRL
THAT'S GONE MISSING?
442
00:23:19,749 --> 00:23:22,450
I MIGHT HAVE
SOME INFORMATION ON HER.
443
00:23:22,485 --> 00:23:24,185
THINK...
444
00:23:24,220 --> 00:23:27,621
MAYBE YOU'D BE INTERESTED
IN...MAKING A TRADE.
445
00:23:30,793 --> 00:23:32,960
LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN DO.
446
00:23:32,995 --> 00:23:36,130
THEY WERE GONNA REDUCE
HIS CHARGES TO MISDEMEANORS --
447
00:23:36,165 --> 00:23:37,998
PUNISHABLE BY A MAXIMUM
OF ONE YEAR IN JAIL,
448
00:23:38,034 --> 00:23:39,100
IN THE COUNTY JAIL,
449
00:23:39,135 --> 00:23:41,068
SO IT'S GREAT REDUCTION
FROM A FELONY
450
00:23:41,104 --> 00:23:43,504
AND GOING TO ATTICA
OR SOMEPLACE.
451
00:23:43,539 --> 00:23:46,140
OKAY, ARTHUR,
THIS BETTER BE GOOD.
452
00:23:46,175 --> 00:23:48,509
WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME
WHAT YOU KNOW?
453
00:23:48,544 --> 00:23:50,778
OKAY.
454
00:23:50,813 --> 00:23:52,780
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
LOOKING INTO RICKY.
455
00:23:55,218 --> 00:23:56,750
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT
PIECES OF INFORMATION
456
00:23:56,786 --> 00:24:00,454
THAT HITT PROVIDED WAS THAT
RICKY KNAPP HAD ASKED HIM
457
00:24:00,490 --> 00:24:01,989
TO SAY HE WAS WITH HIM
458
00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:06,127
ON THE NIGHT OF DECEMBER 9th
UNTIL 8:00 P.M.
459
00:24:06,162 --> 00:24:07,995
BUT HE DIDN'T SAY WHY.
460
00:24:09,098 --> 00:24:11,799
HAS HE SAID ANYTHING
ABOUT LINDA VELZY?
461
00:24:11,834 --> 00:24:13,868
COME ON, ARTHUR.
I'M GONNA NEED MORE THAN THIS.
462
00:24:13,903 --> 00:24:16,103
I'VE GIVING YOU
ALL THAT I GOT.
463
00:24:16,139 --> 00:24:18,606
LOOK, THIS IS
A TWO-WAY STREET.
464
00:24:18,641 --> 00:24:20,574
IF I'M GONNA HELP YOU,
I NEED MORE.
465
00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:25,179
OUR HOPE WAS THAT ARTHUR HITT
COULD GET RICKY TO CONFESS,
466
00:24:25,214 --> 00:24:27,181
BUT ANY INFORMATION
THAT HE COULD PROVIDE US WITH
467
00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:28,516
WOULD BE MORE
THAN WHAT WE HAD,
468
00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:31,852
BECAUSE WE COULDN'T EVEN
TALK TO RICKY KNAPP.
469
00:24:31,888 --> 00:24:33,687
WHAT DO YOU WANT?
470
00:24:38,094 --> 00:24:39,293
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?
471
00:24:39,328 --> 00:24:41,328
I NEED SOMETHING
ON TAPE.
472
00:24:41,364 --> 00:24:42,429
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO
BUILD HIS TRUST.
473
00:24:42,465 --> 00:24:44,331
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
TO WEAR A WIRE.
474
00:24:44,367 --> 00:24:47,468
WE WIRED HIM
WITH A BODY WIRE,
475
00:24:47,503 --> 00:24:51,772
AND HE MET RICKY
IN A BAR IN WEST ONEONTA,
476
00:24:51,807 --> 00:24:53,774
NOT TOO FAR
FROM RICKY'S HOUSE.
477
00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,349
SO, YOU REALLY THINK THE COPS
ARE WATCHING YOU?
478
00:25:02,385 --> 00:25:04,151
I KNOW MARKED CARS.
479
00:25:04,187 --> 00:25:07,221
ONE WILL FOLLOW ME
FOR A FEW BLOCKS AND TURN.
480
00:25:07,256 --> 00:25:09,190
A MINUTE LATER,
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FOLLOWING.
481
00:25:09,225 --> 00:25:10,991
PROBABLY OUTSIDE
RIGHT NOW.
482
00:25:12,562 --> 00:25:14,995
YOU'RE NOT WORRIED AT ALL?
483
00:25:15,031 --> 00:25:16,864
WHAT DO I GOT
TO BE WORRIED ABOUT?
484
00:25:18,634 --> 00:25:21,669
I DON'T KNOW. I-I GUESS
THAT'S WHAT I'M, UM --
485
00:25:21,704 --> 00:25:23,437
I'M ASKING YOU.
486
00:25:26,709 --> 00:25:29,476
WHY ARE YOU
SO INTERESTED?
487
00:25:29,512 --> 00:25:31,612
I'M JUST SAYING, IF, -
IF THEY START FOLLOWING ME,
488
00:25:31,647 --> 00:25:34,014
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
ON THE SAME PAGE, RIGHT?
489
00:25:46,495 --> 00:25:47,861
AND THEY HAD A CONVERSATION,
490
00:25:47,897 --> 00:25:52,499
BUT THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT,
NOTHING MUCH WAS ENLIGHTENING.
491
00:26:07,283 --> 00:26:09,984
WE ASSUMED THAT HE WOULD
GET AWAY WITH IT
492
00:26:10,019 --> 00:26:13,053
UNLESS WE COULD SOMEHOW
493
00:26:13,089 --> 00:26:15,589
I GUESS
PULL OFF A MIRACLE.
494
00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:18,325
CAROL, THIS GUY'S NEVER GONNA
GET RICKY TO SAY ANYTHING,
495
00:26:18,361 --> 00:26:20,394
NOT WHILE HE HAS
HIS GUARD UP.
496
00:26:20,429 --> 00:26:22,229
WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING?
497
00:26:23,766 --> 00:26:25,833
WE GO HOME
FOR CHRISTMAS.
498
00:26:25,868 --> 00:26:28,636
NOT THIS AGAIN, HOWARD.
WE CAN'T.
499
00:26:28,671 --> 00:26:29,837
HE WAS BEHAVING HIMSELF.
500
00:26:29,872 --> 00:26:31,805
WELL, WE KNEW NOTHING
WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH HIM
501
00:26:31,841 --> 00:26:34,174
IF HE'S BEING CAUTIOUS.
502
00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,910
HE HAS TO THINK
THAT THE PRESSURE'S OFF.
503
00:26:36,946 --> 00:26:39,747
BUT SHE'S OUT THERE
SOMEWHERE, HOWARD.
504
00:26:39,782 --> 00:26:40,781
IN THE COLD.
505
00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:43,450
THE IDEA WAS
TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION
506
00:26:43,486 --> 00:26:45,919
THAT WE WERE GIVING UP,
507
00:26:45,955 --> 00:26:49,023
THAT THERE WAS NO SOLUTION --
508
00:26:49,058 --> 00:26:51,058
IN OTHER WORDS,
HE'D GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT.
509
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:55,162
CAROL...
510
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,064
WE'RE RUNNING OUT
OF OPTIONS.
511
00:26:58,367 --> 00:26:59,533
WE HAD NO CHOICE.
512
00:26:59,568 --> 00:27:04,405
WE WENT BACK
FOR CHRISTMAS, AND...
513
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,273
IT WAS VERY HARD TO LEAVE
514
00:27:06,309 --> 00:27:08,208
AND WONDERING STILL
WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
515
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:12,980
WE WENT OUT TO CHURCH THEN,
516
00:27:13,015 --> 00:27:15,182
AND WE SANG CHRISTMAS CAROLS.
517
00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:17,418
AND I'M THINKING,
"HERE I AM IN CHURCH
518
00:27:17,453 --> 00:27:19,153
SINGING CHRISTMAS CAROLS,
519
00:27:19,188 --> 00:27:23,857
AND MY LIFE IS RUINED,"
YOU KNOW?
520
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,693
IT WAS A VERY HARD TIME.
521
00:27:31,067 --> 00:27:33,667
I DO REMEMBER
A FEW THINGS I BOUGHT HER.
522
00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:40,541
I HAD THOSE GIFTS
WRAPPED FOR HER,
523
00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:43,744
AND I DON'T KNOW
HOW I GOT THROUGH THAT.
524
00:27:43,779 --> 00:27:46,814
I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW HOW I
GOT THROUGH WITHOUT GOING NUTS,
525
00:27:46,849 --> 00:27:49,249
AND I WAS CLOSE TO IT,
PROBABLY.
526
00:27:52,955 --> 00:27:54,421
AT LEAST
WHEN WE WERE IN ONEONTA,
527
00:27:54,457 --> 00:27:55,923
I FELT THAT I WAS
AT LEAST THERE --
528
00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,725
NOT THAT I WAS DOING ANYTHING
OR HELPING,
529
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,259
BUT AT LEAST I WAS PRESENT.
530
00:27:59,295 --> 00:28:01,095
NOW I'M 150 MILES AWAY
531
00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:03,130
AND DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT'S HAPPENING
532
00:28:03,165 --> 00:28:06,967
AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING
TO BE HELPFUL.
533
00:28:10,473 --> 00:28:16,176
HOWARD HAS NO IDEA THAT HIS PLAN
TO LIE LOW IS ABOUT TO PAY OFF.
534
00:28:19,949 --> 00:28:22,716
OKAY, JOE,
WHAT'S THIS ABOUT?
535
00:28:22,752 --> 00:28:24,218
THIS IS THE CULMINATION.
536
00:28:24,253 --> 00:28:26,253
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE
537
00:28:26,288 --> 00:28:27,755
THE FINAL LAP OF A RACE,
YOU KNOW?
538
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:29,223
YOU WIN
OR YOU LOSE.
539
00:28:29,258 --> 00:28:30,758
TURNS OUT ARTHUR HITT
540
00:28:30,793 --> 00:28:32,192
MIGHT BE GOOD FOR SOMETHING
AFTER ALL.
541
00:28:36,532 --> 00:28:38,899
THREE WEEKS IS A LONG TIME.
542
00:28:38,934 --> 00:28:42,369
AND IT'S AN AWFUL LONG TIME
NOT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
543
00:28:42,405 --> 00:28:43,504
IT HAD TO BE DONE.
544
00:28:43,539 --> 00:28:45,606
IT HAD TO BE FIGURED OUT
SOMEHOW,
545
00:28:45,641 --> 00:28:50,277
BECAUSE NOT KNOWING WOULD HAVE
BEEN MORE HELL IN OUR BOOK.
546
00:28:55,851 --> 00:28:58,051
I GOT A CALL ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
547
00:28:58,087 --> 00:28:59,853
THERE HAD BEEN A BREAK
IN THE CASE.
548
00:28:59,889 --> 00:29:01,688
OKAY, JOE,
WHAT'S THIS ABOUT?
549
00:29:01,724 --> 00:29:03,424
GET READY FOR THIS.
550
00:29:03,459 --> 00:29:05,292
HE SAYS RICKY DID IT.
551
00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:08,195
HE CONFESSED
TO THE WHOLE THING.
552
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:09,997
WE WERE INFORMED
THAT RICKY KNAPP
553
00:29:10,032 --> 00:29:12,566
HAD TOLD ARTHUR HITT
THAT HE HAD KILLED HER
554
00:29:12,601 --> 00:29:15,002
AND THAT RICKY KNAPP
HAD LINDA'S BODY
555
00:29:15,037 --> 00:29:18,839
AT SOMEPLACE OVER IN THE
MOUNTAINS IN DELAWARE COUNTY.
556
00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:21,074
HE PUT IT IN
A LIGHTLY WOODED AREA
557
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:24,511
AND COVERED IT WITH SNOW
AND LEFT IT THERE.
558
00:29:28,751 --> 00:29:31,051
DO HER PARENTS KNOW?
559
00:29:31,086 --> 00:29:32,219
NOT YET.
560
00:29:32,254 --> 00:29:34,388
ARTHUR HAD EXPLAINED
TO HIM THAT, YOU KNOW,
561
00:29:34,423 --> 00:29:36,290
IT'S NOT WELL-HIDDEN.
THEY'RE GONNA FIND IT.
562
00:29:36,325 --> 00:29:38,225
SO, THEN HE SAYS,
"BUT I CAN DIG YOU A GRAVE,
563
00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:39,460
AND THEY'LL NEVER FIND IT."
564
00:29:39,495 --> 00:29:40,861
AND SO, THEY WERE
GONNA MOVE THE BODY
565
00:29:40,896 --> 00:29:42,996
AND PUT IT IN A GRAVE THAT
ARTHUR DUG WITH HIS BULLDOZER
566
00:29:43,032 --> 00:29:46,200
UP ON THE LOG SITE
ON WINNEY HILL ROAD.
567
00:29:46,235 --> 00:29:48,469
ARTHUR CONVINCED HIM
TO MOVE THE BODY.
568
00:29:48,504 --> 00:29:51,472
WHEN?
TONIGHT AFTER DARK.
569
00:29:51,507 --> 00:29:54,274
OKAY, THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE
TO GET HIM.
570
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:55,943
NOTHING CAN GO WRONG.
571
00:29:57,446 --> 00:29:59,346
I WANT TO BE IN PLACE
BEFORE SUNSET.
572
00:30:10,125 --> 00:30:11,925
ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR AND I
WENT UP.
573
00:30:11,961 --> 00:30:14,394
IT WAS EERIE 'CAUSE IT WAS
REAL QUIET UP THERE.
574
00:30:20,002 --> 00:30:21,235
WE'RE BACK IN THE WOODS.
575
00:30:21,270 --> 00:30:22,536
AND WE JUST WAITED THERE,
576
00:30:22,571 --> 00:30:24,404
AND IT FELT LIKE IT WAS CUTTING
RIGHT TO THE BONE.
577
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,607
YOU KNOW, IT WAS SO COLD.
578
00:30:37,253 --> 00:30:38,986
RICKY PULLS IN THE LOT.
579
00:30:40,689 --> 00:30:43,991
WE WERE AFRAID HE WAS GONNA
HIT US WITH THE LIGHTS.
580
00:30:44,026 --> 00:30:48,428
BUT THEN HE TURNED AND STOPPED,
AND THEY GOT OUT OF THE CAR.
581
00:30:50,966 --> 00:30:53,267
AND THEY OPENED THE TRUNK.
582
00:30:53,302 --> 00:30:54,635
HEY.
583
00:30:58,641 --> 00:31:00,774
ALL RIGHT,
YOU GET HER LEGS.
584
00:31:00,809 --> 00:31:02,109
NO WAY.
585
00:31:02,144 --> 00:31:04,611
SO, THEN RICKY TRIES
GETTING HER OUT OF THE TRUNK.
586
00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:07,514
HE FINALLY GOT HER OUT.
587
00:31:10,553 --> 00:31:12,786
DROPPED HER OUT ON THE GROUND.
A BIG THUD.
588
00:31:12,821 --> 00:31:14,955
YOU COULD HEAR THIS ECHO 'CAUSE
SHE WAS FROZEN STIFF, YOU KNOW.
589
00:31:16,492 --> 00:31:19,026
YEAH. THAT'S
GONNA HURT, GIRL.
590
00:31:20,996 --> 00:31:25,666
HE WAS LAUGHING AND MAKING
OBSCENE REMARKS ABOUT IT.
591
00:31:35,945 --> 00:31:37,911
HERE HE IS CARRYING A BODY,
AND JOE MOORE WALKS UP.
592
00:31:37,947 --> 00:31:40,314
AND OF COURSE
JOE'S A BIG GUY, YOU KNOW,
593
00:31:40,349 --> 00:31:42,316
AND TAPS HIM ON THE SHOULDER.
594
00:31:44,353 --> 00:31:47,888
BUT HE --
HE DEFINITELY WAS SURPRISED.
595
00:31:58,667 --> 00:32:01,501
THAT'S LINDA'S BODY
596
00:32:01,537 --> 00:32:05,472
WRAPPED IN A...SHEET OR...
597
00:32:06,842 --> 00:32:08,375
SORT OF LOOKS LIKE A SHEET.
598
00:32:08,410 --> 00:32:12,946
YOU CAN SEE HER BLUE JEANS
ON THE LEG THERE.
599
00:32:12,982 --> 00:32:15,282
WOW.
600
00:32:15,317 --> 00:32:17,451
IF THIS BODY WAS IN THE WOODS
601
00:32:17,486 --> 00:32:20,854
AND IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE
THE BLUE JEANS,
602
00:32:20,889 --> 00:32:23,624
YOU COULD WALK RIGHT BY IT
AND NOT NOTICE IT.
603
00:32:23,659 --> 00:32:25,425
LOOK LIKE A PILE OF SNOW.
604
00:32:27,096 --> 00:32:28,629
THAT'S ABOUT THE EPITOME
OF CRIMES.
605
00:32:28,664 --> 00:32:30,797
THEY DON'T GET MUCH WORSE
THAN THAT.
606
00:32:45,214 --> 00:32:46,913
HELLO. HOWARD VELZY.
607
00:32:54,723 --> 00:32:56,490
ARE YOU SURE?
608
00:32:56,525 --> 00:32:59,192
ARE -- ARE YOU POSITIVE?
609
00:32:59,228 --> 00:33:00,627
GOD.
610
00:33:01,997 --> 00:33:03,664
HOWARD, WHAT IS IT?
611
00:33:05,934 --> 00:33:07,534
IT'S LINDA.
612
00:33:14,109 --> 00:33:16,176
NO.
613
00:33:16,211 --> 00:33:17,444
NO, IT'S NOT TRUE.
614
00:33:17,479 --> 00:33:20,847
IT-- IT-- IT'S NOT TRUE.
615
00:33:48,377 --> 00:33:50,177
IT WAS JUST COMPLETE DEVASTATION
616
00:33:50,212 --> 00:33:54,081
THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO
HAVE HER AROUND ANYMORE...
617
00:33:54,116 --> 00:33:55,949
AND WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH.
618
00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:03,924
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
619
00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:06,760
I WOULD THINK SHE WAS
PROBABLY SCARED TO DEATH,
620
00:34:06,795 --> 00:34:08,328
AND RIGHTLY SO.
621
00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:20,857
GENERALLY, WHEN WE
DO GET TOGETHER,
622
00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:22,125
WE DON'T REALLY GO --
623
00:34:22,161 --> 00:34:23,894
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY
TALK MUCH ABOUT LINDA
624
00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:25,262
BECAUSE IT'S SO PAINFUL.
625
00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:26,696
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW,
626
00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:29,800
NOW WE HAVE A VENUE
TO TALK TO YOU GUYS,
627
00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:32,869
AND SO...
IT'S NOT AS HURTFUL.
628
00:34:32,905 --> 00:34:35,138
IT'S NOT AS PAI--
THERE'S NOT AS MUCH PAIN THERE.
629
00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:37,507
IT'S RUBBING A RAW NERVE.
630
00:34:37,543 --> 00:34:40,310
YOU KNOW, SHE WAS
THE ONE SISTER THAT I HAD,
631
00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:42,579
AND I COULD TALK TO HER
ABOUT ANYTHING.
632
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:45,315
FOR A LONG TIME,
633
00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:48,151
ONE OF THE WORST THINGS TO DO
WAS TO WAKE UP.
634
00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:49,820
AND IT WOULD HIT ME WITH --
635
00:34:49,855 --> 00:34:54,024
AND YOU JUST --
I JUST WOULD FEEL...
636
00:34:54,059 --> 00:34:55,225
AGONIZED.
637
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:58,161
NOW, THIS WAS NOT A DREAM.
THIS WAS FOR REAL.
638
00:34:58,197 --> 00:35:02,566
IT WAS JUST, HOW COULD WE
EVER GET THROUGH THIS?
639
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:08,271
IN A TYPED CONFESSION,
640
00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:10,540
RICKY KNAPP
REVEALS WHAT HAPPENED
641
00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:14,177
THE NIGHT
HE MURDERED LINDA VELZY.
642
00:35:14,213 --> 00:35:20,283
HE SAID THAT HE HAD BEEN
TO THE BLACK CAT BAR.
643
00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:25,889
THEN HE LEFT, AND HE WAS GOING
UP WEST STREET, I THINK,
644
00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:29,292
AND SAW THIS GIRL
HITCH-HIKING,
645
00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:31,094
SO HE STOPPED
AND PICKED HER UP.
646
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:38,568
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
647
00:35:40,205 --> 00:35:42,205
I WAS NOT LOOKING FORWARD
TO THAT HIKE IN THE COLD.
648
00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:48,879
AS YOU PROCEED UP WEST STREET
TOWARDS THE CAMPUS,
649
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:51,648
IF YOU DON'T TURN -- MAKE
A RIGHT TURN INTO THE CAMPUS
650
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,517
AND PROCEED ON UP WEST STREET,
651
00:35:53,552 --> 00:35:55,685
IT'S VERY RURAL.
652
00:35:55,721 --> 00:35:56,920
A LOT OF A WOODED AREA
AND THAT.
653
00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:59,222
AND SO,
IF SOMEONE WAS IN A CAR
654
00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:02,125
AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO
TO CAMPUS AND THE CAR GOES BY,
655
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,827
THEY'RE GONNA GET
VERY NERVOUS.
656
00:36:11,036 --> 00:36:13,336
HEY, YOU --
YOU MISSED THE TURN.
657
00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:23,580
PIECING TOGETHER
KNAPP'S STATEMENT
658
00:36:23,615 --> 00:36:27,984
AND WHAT WE CAN ASCERTAIN,
659
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:33,623
IT LOOKS LIKE
THAT LINDA MUST HAVE PANICKED
660
00:36:33,659 --> 00:36:37,627
AND OPENED THE DOOR AND --
AND TRIED TO JUMP FROM THE CAR.
661
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:43,733
AND THEN RICKY
GOT OUT OF THE CAR.
662
00:36:43,769 --> 00:36:45,869
HE PUNCHED HER IN THE THROAT
AND KILLED HER.
663
00:36:49,942 --> 00:36:52,042
LINDA PROBABLY WAS DEAD
664
00:36:52,077 --> 00:36:55,145
WITHIN FIVE, TEN MINUTES
AT THE MOST
665
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:56,613
FROM THE TIME
SHE WAS PICKED UP
666
00:36:56,648 --> 00:37:01,284
TILL THE TIME
SHE WAS DECEASED -- MURDERED.
667
00:37:05,424 --> 00:37:10,060
WE RELIVE HOW
HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HER
668
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:11,595
AND WHAT SHE MUST
HAVE GONE THROUGH.
669
00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:12,963
THAT WAS THE HARD PART,
670
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:16,366
IS KNOWING WHAT SHE HAD TO FACE
BEFORE HE KILLED HER.
671
00:37:28,113 --> 00:37:29,779
THAT WAS HARD.
672
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:40,290
YES.
673
00:37:40,325 --> 00:37:42,225
THIS IS A CLASSIC.
674
00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:45,762
THERE'S A CAT.
IT WAS MITTENS.
675
00:37:45,797 --> 00:37:48,598
AND THIS WAS HER FAVORITE.
676
00:37:48,634 --> 00:37:51,635
AND MITTENS FAVORED LINDA.
677
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:54,070
AND I'LL TELL YOU THE STORY.
678
00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:59,609
DURING THE PERIOD
BEFORE THE FUNERAL,
679
00:37:59,645 --> 00:38:01,878
WE RECEIVED PEOPLE AT OUR HOME
680
00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:03,546
RATHER THAN
THROUGH THE FUNERAL HOME.
681
00:38:03,582 --> 00:38:05,482
UM...
682
00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:09,052
AND WE HAD THIS PICTURE
ON AN END TABLE
683
00:38:09,087 --> 00:38:11,154
AT THE END OF THE LIVING ROOM.
684
00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:13,390
SHE WAS TRULY A GIFT.
685
00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:17,761
I'VE KNOWN HER
SINCE THE FIFTH GRADE.
686
00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:19,562
THE PERSON WOULD COME
IN THE ROOM.
687
00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:21,164
THAT CAT WOULD --
WHEREVER SHE WAS,
688
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:25,168
WOULD GET UP,
WALK OVER TO THE TABLE,
689
00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:27,837
SIT DOWN,
690
00:38:27,873 --> 00:38:31,875
AND WOULDN'T MOVE
UNTIL THE LAST PERSON LEFT,
691
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:33,476
DAY AFTER DAY.
692
00:38:35,514 --> 00:38:36,513
STRANGE.
693
00:38:41,219 --> 00:38:43,987
I'M SO SORRY
FOR YOUR LOSS.
694
00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:46,289
IT WAS...
695
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:48,124
IT WAS AS IF SHE WAS SAYING...
696
00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:51,861
"THIS IS MY LINDA."
697
00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:12,348
THIS IS HIM?
698
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,818
HOLY COW.
699
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,686
AGE DIDN'T DO MUCH
FOR HIM.
700
00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:19,756
HE WAS JUST SICK.
701
00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:24,794
HE WAS...
JUST A SICK MAN, YOU KNOW.
702
00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:27,831
AND...HE DIDN'T
DRAW ATTENTION TO HIMSELF,
703
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:30,200
BUT IF YOU LOOKED
AT HIS EYES, THEY'RE --
704
00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:31,835
I CALL THEM EVIL EYES.
705
00:39:33,905 --> 00:39:34,938
CAN'T EXPLAIN IT.
706
00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:36,940
IT'S JUST SOMETHING
THAT YOU CAN SEE.
707
00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:39,943
AND HE HAD IT.
708
00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:45,515
THEY SENT US A NOTICE,
709
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:49,352
AND IT WAS A FORMAL LETTER
710
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,021
INDICATING THAT
HE HAD DIED IN PRISON.
711
00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:57,527
THEY TALK ABOUT CLOSURE
IN A CASE LIKE THIS, AND...
712
00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:00,697
...I DON'T THINK
YOU HAVE CLOSURE.
713
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:04,667
I'M NOT EVEN SURE
YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE CLOSURE.
714
00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:06,603
WE'D BE WALKING AROUND,
715
00:40:06,638 --> 00:40:11,975
AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE,
I'D SEE SOMEONE WITH BLOND HAIR
716
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:13,610
FROM THE BACK.
717
00:40:19,584 --> 00:40:22,118
PART OF MY LIFE WAS DESTROYED.
718
00:40:22,154 --> 00:40:24,888
SHE LIVED A FULL LIFE,
719
00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:26,523
AS LONG AS IT LASTED.
720
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,427
JUST A NORMAL
TEENAGE, HEALTHY GIRL
721
00:40:31,463 --> 00:40:34,130
THAT WAS JUST
INTERESTED IN LIFE --
722
00:40:34,166 --> 00:40:38,368
EXPERIENCE AS MUCH IN LIFE
AS SHE COULD.
723
00:40:38,403 --> 00:40:40,703
AND SHE DID.
724
00:40:45,177 --> 00:40:48,611
YEAH. IT'S IN BEHIND
OUR LOCAL CHURCH.
725
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:50,947
WE WENT BY THE OTHER DAY
JUST TO --
726
00:40:50,982 --> 00:40:54,417
WELL, WE KEEP THE GRAVESTONES
CLEANED AND SO FORTH
727
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,152
AND MAINTAINED.
728
00:40:56,188 --> 00:40:59,389
PROBABLY WHERE CAROL AND I
WILL BE BURIED.
729
00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:02,192
WE HAVE GRAVESTONES THERE.
730
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:06,763
AND AT HER GRAVE,
I REMEMBER SHE WAS MY DAUGHTER.
731
00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:10,867
I'M PAYING RESPECTS...
732
00:41:10,902 --> 00:41:13,736
BUT...
733
00:41:13,772 --> 00:41:16,439
IT'S A GRAVESTONE.
734
00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,808
SHE'S NOT THERE.
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