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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,671 --> 00:00:07,006 In the context of looking for Hitler's escape route, 2 00:00:07,108 --> 00:00:09,742 we are now getting into specifics for the first time. 3 00:00:09,844 --> 00:00:13,512 A certain ex-Luftwaffe pilot, Captain Baumgart, 4 00:00:13,614 --> 00:00:16,782 swore under oath that he flew Hitler 5 00:00:16,884 --> 00:00:21,353 from Berlin on 29 April 1945. 6 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:23,200 - Maybe there really is a plan B, 7 00:00:23,224 --> 00:00:26,225 a plan C, and a plan D that we don't know about. 8 00:00:26,327 --> 00:00:28,761 - You have here the Fuehrerbunker. 9 00:00:28,863 --> 00:00:33,198 Just 20 to 25 meters away, 10 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:35,801 I found an exit 11 00:00:35,903 --> 00:00:38,303 very close to the bunker. 12 00:00:38,406 --> 00:00:40,183 - Now Hitler's got another way out. 13 00:00:40,207 --> 00:00:43,208 - A plane which was piloted by Hanna Reitsch 14 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:46,478 flew out of Berlin from the Brandenburg Gate. 15 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:47,824 - It looks like it was a runway. 16 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:49,748 It was a makeshift runway. 17 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:51,528 - Hanna Reitsch, she's able to fly a plane 18 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:53,230 in and out of here on April 28th. 19 00:00:53,254 --> 00:00:55,087 Allegedly, on April 29th, 20 00:00:55,156 --> 00:00:56,700 Baumgart flies Hitler out of here. 21 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:58,957 But what about these lampposts? 22 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:01,493 How you gonna get wings of an airplane down here? 23 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:04,229 - We generate a 360-degree spherical image. 24 00:01:04,331 --> 00:01:05,731 - You can see everything. 25 00:01:05,833 --> 00:01:07,166 - Look what they've got here. 26 00:01:07,268 --> 00:01:08,967 - You're actually talking about 27 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:11,737 a defensible militarized zone. 28 00:01:11,839 --> 00:01:13,639 - Misiones, Argentina. 29 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:15,474 - That is huge. 30 00:01:15,576 --> 00:01:17,696 - Why is this in the middle of the jungle? 31 00:01:17,745 --> 00:01:19,445 - The person that is using this 32 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:22,107 is protected by the people that are using that. 33 00:01:24,131 --> 00:01:27,131 HUNTING HITLER - SEASON 2 EP - 2 - The Compound 34 00:01:30,558 --> 00:01:32,124 - I just think Misiones, 35 00:01:32,226 --> 00:01:34,493 it's just, like, bizarre. 36 00:01:34,595 --> 00:01:36,440 I mean, who was living up there? 37 00:01:36,464 --> 00:01:37,741 And for what reason? 38 00:01:37,765 --> 00:01:38,942 And what were they protecting? 39 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:40,599 Bob Baer 40 00:01:40,701 --> 00:01:42,612 and war crimes investigator Dr. John Cencich 41 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:45,037 are overseeing a dual-pronged investigation 42 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:47,339 while the European team investigates 43 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,608 a reported escape by Hitler from Berlin 44 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:51,844 the day before he was believed dead. 45 00:01:51,946 --> 00:01:54,680 Bob and John focus in on the South American leg 46 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:56,148 of their investigation. 47 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:58,650 In the jungles of Misiones, Argentina, 48 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,992 they have uncovered four mysterious structures 49 00:02:01,055 --> 00:02:02,554 in the same area 50 00:02:02,656 --> 00:02:04,957 that a declassified Argentinian document 51 00:02:05,059 --> 00:02:08,360 reports the presence of a Nazi militarized outpost. 52 00:02:08,462 --> 00:02:10,607 - We have found there a compound 53 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:14,166 that could have protected somebody of Hitler's stature. 54 00:02:14,268 --> 00:02:16,446 I've never seen anything like this. 55 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:18,904 You've got the buildings, 56 00:02:19,006 --> 00:02:21,306 all these Nazi artifacts. 57 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:23,342 You've got a barracks. 58 00:02:23,444 --> 00:02:26,378 You've got military bullets. 59 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,180 And then you've got china. 60 00:02:28,282 --> 00:02:32,017 I mean, who takes china into the middle of the jungle? 61 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:33,685 For what reason? 62 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:37,256 I want somebody to explain to me what this compound was 63 00:02:37,358 --> 00:02:39,469 and why those people inside the compound 64 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:40,904 had to set up a military base. 65 00:02:40,928 --> 00:02:42,208 For whom? 66 00:02:42,296 --> 00:02:44,863 - If we can find more evidence of structures 67 00:02:44,965 --> 00:02:48,600 or the ability to defend this high-value target, 68 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:50,836 that means that this is some sort 69 00:02:50,938 --> 00:02:53,005 of Nazi military compound. 70 00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:54,606 - I agree. 71 00:02:54,708 --> 00:02:57,187 If, in fact, it was a compound, 72 00:02:57,211 --> 00:02:59,745 there's stuff to be dug up. 73 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,094 - We keep finding stuff, but we're not finding answers. 74 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:18,197 We're just finding more questions. 75 00:03:18,299 --> 00:03:20,666 U.S. Army Special Forces Tim Kennedy, 76 00:03:20,734 --> 00:03:23,635 along with archaeologists Daniel Schávelzon 77 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:26,538 and Alasdair Brooks, investigate the dense jungle 78 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:28,485 surrounding building number four, 79 00:03:28,509 --> 00:03:31,076 which appears to have been a military barracks 80 00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:32,789 less than a mile from the other three 81 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:34,613 residential structures. 82 00:03:34,715 --> 00:03:37,282 - When you're trying to paint a comprehensive picture 83 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:41,053 of what a military compound would look like in a jungle, 84 00:03:41,155 --> 00:03:43,033 you're looking for observation posts, 85 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:45,123 structures, defensive positions. 86 00:03:45,226 --> 00:03:47,659 This is way more than a hideout in the jungle. 87 00:03:47,761 --> 00:03:49,761 But if this is a military outpost, 88 00:03:49,863 --> 00:03:51,396 I have to see a lot more. 89 00:03:57,538 --> 00:03:59,805 Daniel, Tim! 90 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:04,469 - Hey. What'd you find? 91 00:04:04,545 --> 00:04:07,012 - If we come up here, we've got these few loose rocks. 92 00:04:07,114 --> 00:04:11,183 If we follow it through, this isn't a natural formation. 93 00:04:11,318 --> 00:04:13,452 - Yeah, you're right. 94 00:04:13,554 --> 00:04:15,487 - That's kind of weird. 95 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:19,424 - It's very clear it's a manmade feature. 96 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:22,160 It's a wall in a straight line. 97 00:04:22,263 --> 00:04:23,762 - Wow. 98 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:26,431 - The construction technique for these walls 99 00:04:26,533 --> 00:04:28,166 is fairly basic. 100 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:30,347 It's just rocks laying on top of each other. 101 00:04:30,371 --> 00:04:32,704 But you can see those levels building up. 102 00:04:32,806 --> 00:04:34,940 They are clearly artificial. 103 00:04:35,042 --> 00:04:37,509 A certain level of planning and intent 104 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:40,012 seems to have gone into this stone wall. 105 00:04:40,114 --> 00:04:41,847 It looks like it's making use 106 00:04:41,949 --> 00:04:44,182 of natural features in the landscape. 107 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:46,151 And it seems to be going up 108 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:48,687 to another natural feature up there. 109 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,455 Whether it goes any further than that 110 00:04:50,557 --> 00:04:52,357 is an open question right now. 111 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:54,070 - All right, I'm gonna go right. 112 00:04:54,094 --> 00:04:55,939 We'll make this our center point for right now 113 00:04:55,963 --> 00:04:57,040 and our working area. 114 00:04:57,064 --> 00:04:58,397 - Yes. 115 00:05:01,168 --> 00:05:02,946 - To build something like this wall 116 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:04,336 in the middle of the jungle, 117 00:05:04,438 --> 00:05:06,905 where there's no one for miles, 118 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:09,308 that was by design, and that was for a reason. 119 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:10,709 Has to serve a purpose. 120 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:12,978 I want to find out the purpose. 121 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,849 Yeah, we got something over here for sure. 122 00:05:17,951 --> 00:05:19,651 Another one. 123 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:21,353 This is a second wall. 124 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,223 Powerfully constructed, 125 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:28,160 strategically located. 126 00:05:34,468 --> 00:05:36,268 Got another wall down there? 127 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:38,537 Oh, man. 128 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,872 Oh, this is absolutely connected. 129 00:05:45,112 --> 00:05:47,312 Another wall for sure. 130 00:05:54,455 --> 00:05:57,589 Damn. 131 00:05:57,691 --> 00:05:59,291 This is legit. 132 00:06:02,563 --> 00:06:03,862 Hey, guys! 133 00:06:03,964 --> 00:06:05,564 - Have something? 134 00:06:05,666 --> 00:06:08,066 - Yeah, there's a full rock face right here. 135 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:11,103 - Looks like you have a couple of lines of stone here, 136 00:06:11,205 --> 00:06:13,285 and that's definitely artificial again. 137 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:16,441 What we're seeing here 138 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,643 is a much more impressive sequence 139 00:06:18,746 --> 00:06:20,112 than the wall we started with. 140 00:06:20,214 --> 00:06:21,480 This is much higher 141 00:06:21,582 --> 00:06:23,949 and then has flat, terraced levels 142 00:06:24,051 --> 00:06:27,052 rising down from where the two of you are standing. 143 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:28,453 The team has discovered 144 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:29,955 a terrace-like structure, 145 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:31,556 two tiers of paved ground 146 00:06:31,658 --> 00:06:34,559 reinforced by manmade stone walls 147 00:06:34,661 --> 00:06:36,628 built into the hillside. 148 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:40,632 - Do you have any idea what the terraces are for? 149 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:42,801 - So the flat ground... 150 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,681 You can't have troops running back and forth, 151 00:06:44,705 --> 00:06:46,383 tripping and breaking their necks. 152 00:06:46,407 --> 00:06:47,973 You can't set up machine guns. 153 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:50,108 You can't fight off of uneven ground. 154 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:51,488 You want every single advantage. 155 00:06:51,512 --> 00:06:53,022 You want them to have the disadvantage 156 00:06:53,046 --> 00:06:54,346 of coming up a hill. 157 00:06:54,448 --> 00:06:55,859 You want to be at the top of the hill. 158 00:06:55,883 --> 00:06:58,027 If you're coming up and you get to this, 159 00:06:58,051 --> 00:07:00,497 this is gonna slow you down for a second. 160 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:02,699 That is long enough for you to die. 161 00:07:02,723 --> 00:07:05,357 This is them setting themselves up for success. 162 00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:08,093 This terrace is in a very well-made fighting position. 163 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:10,273 It's made by somebody that knows what they're doing, 164 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:12,578 somebody that has built battle positions before, 165 00:07:12,633 --> 00:07:14,332 and it screams military. 166 00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:24,976 What is that thing? 167 00:07:25,078 --> 00:07:27,012 You see that? 168 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:28,114 Gentlemen. 169 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:29,392 - Yes. - Yeah. 170 00:07:29,416 --> 00:07:30,949 - I got something. 171 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:33,718 Come up here. Check this out. 172 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:35,187 Yes. 173 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:37,355 Oh! 174 00:07:37,458 --> 00:07:39,291 Holy. 175 00:07:41,462 --> 00:07:43,728 What is this? 176 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:57,075 Even though there's not much left, 177 00:07:57,177 --> 00:08:00,512 you can see where the door and the posts went 178 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:01,658 from the framework. 179 00:08:01,682 --> 00:08:03,014 - Yes. 180 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:04,583 Still have a little bit 181 00:08:04,685 --> 00:08:07,486 of the entrance threshold here as well. 182 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:09,387 - This is a standalone building 183 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:11,089 that serves a functional purpose. 184 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:12,936 - We just don't know what that is yet. 185 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,861 - It's one room, you know, with two doors 186 00:08:15,963 --> 00:08:17,329 and a window. 187 00:08:17,431 --> 00:08:19,242 - We know what this building's not. 188 00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:20,310 This building is not 189 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:21,700 for somebody to live. 190 00:08:21,802 --> 00:08:24,013 - No restroom, no kitchen, no nothing. 191 00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:26,171 - What the hell is this thing? 192 00:08:30,277 --> 00:08:31,776 Guard shack? 193 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,745 That's what it feels like. 194 00:08:33,847 --> 00:08:37,716 Where it's situated, you have obvious layers 195 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:39,629 of protective defensive structures 196 00:08:39,653 --> 00:08:41,186 through the jungle. 197 00:08:41,288 --> 00:08:43,299 These segments of the wall that we can find 198 00:08:43,323 --> 00:08:45,268 probably formed an entire perimeter 199 00:08:45,292 --> 00:08:46,870 around the original structures... 200 00:08:46,894 --> 00:08:49,761 Buildings one, two, and three... At the center. 201 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:52,964 This feels like another layer of defense. 202 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:54,799 This is the exact spot 203 00:08:54,902 --> 00:08:56,301 I would have put a guard shack. 204 00:08:59,306 --> 00:09:02,107 This very well could be where you're gonna be 205 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:04,075 launching patrols from, 206 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:07,078 do all the things that you would have to do 207 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:09,740 to create another layer of protection 208 00:09:09,816 --> 00:09:11,149 for who was behind it. 209 00:09:19,927 --> 00:09:22,294 - This is amazing technology, you know? 210 00:09:22,396 --> 00:09:23,695 There's the Brandenburg Gate. 211 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:24,997 While the South American team 212 00:09:25,098 --> 00:09:26,731 continues to investigate 213 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:29,267 the potential Nazi military compound in Argentina, 214 00:09:29,336 --> 00:09:32,804 Bob and John review the 3D laser scans from Berlin 215 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:34,239 to determine if the avenue 216 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:36,252 extending from the Brandenburg Gate 217 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:39,678 could be the location where a declassified MI6 file 218 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:42,314 reports Luftwaffe pilot Peter Baumgart 219 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:44,149 flew Hitler from Berlin 220 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:46,885 the day before he was believed dead. 221 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:50,755 6,033 feet. 222 00:09:50,857 --> 00:09:54,192 That's a lot of feet for a short takeoff/landing. 223 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:55,860 - Just a little over a mile. 224 00:09:55,963 --> 00:09:58,063 - Yeah, I mean, it's more than you need. 225 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:01,066 Let's look at the width. 93 feet. 226 00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:04,202 - Except let's not forget that the lampposts 227 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:05,315 had been removed. 228 00:10:05,339 --> 00:10:06,871 That gives us 144 feet. 229 00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:10,408 - 144 feet, which you could land a C-130. 230 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:11,788 - Almost any plane. 231 00:10:11,812 --> 00:10:13,489 A DC-3 could have got out of there 232 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:16,025 on this particular makeshift runway. 233 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:19,517 So, really, there isn't any question in my mind 234 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:22,554 that Baumgart could have gotten out of Berlin. 235 00:10:22,656 --> 00:10:24,367 I mean, it's long enough. It's wide enough. 236 00:10:24,391 --> 00:10:25,790 It works. 237 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:27,937 - There's no other explanation other than 238 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:29,839 they were turning this into a makeshift runway. 239 00:10:29,863 --> 00:10:31,808 Hanna Reitsch used it on the 28th, 240 00:10:31,832 --> 00:10:34,966 makes it out successfully... A test run, if you like. 241 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:37,736 The 29th, Baumgart says he flew Hitler out, 242 00:10:37,838 --> 00:10:41,039 and Hitler supposedly dies on the 30th. 243 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:43,775 The detail is all coming together 244 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:46,578 to paint a picture of Hitler's possible escape 245 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,680 like we've never seen before, ever. 246 00:10:48,715 --> 00:10:50,715 - All of this fits together. 247 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:52,862 But I think we really have an issue. 248 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:54,719 According to this MI6 file, 249 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:59,391 Baumgart flew a Messerschmitt, an Me-108. 250 00:10:59,493 --> 00:11:02,961 It had a range of about 600 or 700 miles. 251 00:11:03,063 --> 00:11:05,508 They're not long-distance planes. 252 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:09,267 These types of aircraft being used at this makeshift runway, 253 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:11,848 no way could they have made it to Spain. 254 00:11:11,872 --> 00:11:13,772 It's 2,000 miles away. 255 00:11:13,874 --> 00:11:15,340 Earlier in the investigation, 256 00:11:15,442 --> 00:11:18,910 we determined that one of the very likely routes 257 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:21,024 out of Berlin would have been to Spain. 258 00:11:21,048 --> 00:11:24,949 We have an FBI document, and it states here, 259 00:11:25,052 --> 00:11:27,612 "Hitler refused to involve Spain in the war, 260 00:11:27,688 --> 00:11:31,489 "because he has a promise of sanctuary there 261 00:11:31,591 --> 00:11:33,258 when Germany is defeated." 262 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,628 - There's one man that Hitler could go to for salvation: 263 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:39,964 to leader of Spain, the dictator Franco. 264 00:11:40,067 --> 00:11:43,334 - If Hitler's fleeing Berlin, it's certainly possible 265 00:11:43,437 --> 00:11:45,515 that he would have gone to Spain. 266 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:48,606 But it's most likely that he had an intermediate stop 267 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,275 on one of the smaller aircraft. 268 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:52,121 - And where would you go this late in the game? 269 00:11:52,145 --> 00:11:54,057 - Well, let's dig into this database 270 00:11:54,081 --> 00:11:57,315 and see exactly what we have on Baumgart 271 00:11:57,417 --> 00:11:59,977 and where he could have actually gone. 272 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:07,292 There we go. 273 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:09,661 The reporting agency is MI6. 274 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:13,631 This is a report from 18 December 1947. 275 00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:18,903 "Baumgart arrived at Berlin on 28 March 1945. 276 00:12:19,005 --> 00:12:21,806 "In April, he was ordered to convey to Denmark 277 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:25,510 "a very high official, and there was reason to believe 278 00:12:25,612 --> 00:12:29,380 that the person in question must have been Hitler himself." 279 00:12:29,483 --> 00:12:30,660 - The plot thickens. 280 00:12:30,684 --> 00:12:32,717 - Denmark makes a lot of sense. 281 00:12:32,819 --> 00:12:35,386 It's not like the Allies are landing on the beaches there. 282 00:12:35,489 --> 00:12:36,888 They're coming through France, 283 00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:39,758 and the Russians are coming across Germany. 284 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:43,328 So there's no battle going on in Denmark at the time. 285 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:47,165 Until May 5th, Denmark was still a Nazi stronghold. 286 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:48,911 I mean, you could land an airplane there. 287 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:51,481 - From Berlin to the heart of Denmark 288 00:12:51,505 --> 00:12:54,606 is just a hair short of 300 miles. 289 00:12:54,708 --> 00:12:56,508 - That is a short flight 290 00:12:56,610 --> 00:12:58,943 with a fast military airplane. 291 00:12:59,045 --> 00:13:01,605 - We need to get the team into Denmark. 292 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:04,382 We know Nazi infrastructure's obviously in Germany 293 00:13:04,484 --> 00:13:06,117 and in other countries, 294 00:13:06,219 --> 00:13:09,187 but we really need to be able to zero in on Denmark 295 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:12,557 to see what type of Nazi infrastructures were there. 296 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:14,937 It's still something that needs to be answered. 297 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:16,038 - Yeah, let's get to Denmark, 298 00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:17,762 see if it was a stopping point. 299 00:13:17,864 --> 00:13:20,598 I'll bet we find something. 300 00:13:38,552 --> 00:13:40,718 - If you're on the run, 301 00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,587 you need a network, don't you? 302 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,233 - You absolutely need a network, 303 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:47,158 and a guy like Hitler, of course, at that point, 304 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:48,704 he's the most wanted man in the world, 305 00:13:48,728 --> 00:13:50,306 so he's only gonna trust a very few people. 306 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,330 Lenny DePaul, 307 00:13:51,398 --> 00:13:53,464 former U.S. Marshal commander, 308 00:13:53,567 --> 00:13:57,068 is joined by James Holland, world-renowned historian 309 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:59,304 and expert on Nazis during World War II. 310 00:13:59,406 --> 00:14:00,839 - An investigation like this, 311 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,051 you simply can't look at it 312 00:14:02,075 --> 00:14:03,641 from a 21st-century perspective. 313 00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:05,688 I've been studying this for many years, 314 00:14:05,712 --> 00:14:07,356 trying to get into the head of Adolf Hitler 315 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:08,913 and to the Nazi elite. 316 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:11,416 You need that historical context. 317 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:13,585 To determine the extent 318 00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:15,364 of the Nazi presence in Denmark 319 00:14:15,388 --> 00:14:17,099 that could have been at Hitler's disposal 320 00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:19,791 at the end of the war, the team is heading 321 00:14:19,893 --> 00:14:22,104 to a little-known German military installation 322 00:14:22,128 --> 00:14:23,995 along the Danish coast. 323 00:14:24,097 --> 00:14:26,931 - If this was Adolf Hitler's exact plan of escape, 324 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:29,393 to head north to Denmark, he would have set the table. 325 00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:31,280 He would have had the right infrastructure, 326 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:32,670 the right people in place. 327 00:14:32,772 --> 00:14:34,283 So I'm gonna shake a lot of trees 328 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:36,507 and see what falls out of them around here. 329 00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:39,444 Well, here we are. 330 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:40,546 - Oh, that's him. 331 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:42,124 Hello? - Christian? 332 00:14:42,148 --> 00:14:43,988 - Christian. - Right, right. 333 00:14:44,084 --> 00:14:45,428 - Nice to meet you. - Yeah, and you. 334 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:47,430 Good to see you. - Nice to meet you. 335 00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:49,787 Christian Ringskof, the head curator of the site, 336 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:52,156 is granting the team unprecedented access 337 00:14:52,259 --> 00:14:54,525 to a series of bunkers used by the Nazis 338 00:14:54,628 --> 00:14:56,472 during their occupation of Denmark. 339 00:14:56,496 --> 00:14:58,463 - God, Lenny, look at that. 340 00:14:58,565 --> 00:15:01,032 - Phew. Wow. 341 00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:03,568 - It's incredible, isn't it? 342 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:08,446 - When was this place built, Christian? 343 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,082 At the end of World War II, 344 00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:20,129 these bunkers were buried out of sight 345 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:21,719 under 33 feet of sand. 346 00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:25,356 But in 2008, a massive storm unearthed them, 347 00:15:25,458 --> 00:15:29,360 allowing access for the first time since 1945. 348 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:31,989 - So, suddenly, you can get in here. 349 00:15:44,678 --> 00:15:46,238 - They dropped everything and went home. 350 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:48,193 - Yeah. - Can we take a look? 351 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:51,327 - Have a look at the width of these walls, Lenny. 352 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:52,351 - Jeez Louise. 353 00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:53,385 Solid concrete. 354 00:15:53,486 --> 00:15:54,797 - Six feet. - Six feet. 355 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,387 - Typical German fashion, huh? 356 00:15:56,489 --> 00:15:57,855 Thick concrete walls. 357 00:15:57,958 --> 00:16:00,024 - I mean, look at it. It's so solid. 358 00:16:03,997 --> 00:16:05,096 - Oh, man. 359 00:16:05,198 --> 00:16:06,798 Look at this. 360 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:08,566 The team is granted access 361 00:16:08,668 --> 00:16:10,668 to artifacts that were left behind 362 00:16:10,704 --> 00:16:12,704 when the Nazi troops fled this area 363 00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:14,372 at the end of the war. 364 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:16,519 These objects were entombed in this bunker 365 00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:18,276 for nearly 70 years. 366 00:16:21,982 --> 00:16:24,515 - This is the sort of thing that makes me very happy, Lenny. 367 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,329 - Ooh, look at that. German Luger, right? 368 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:27,952 - Yeah, that's a German Luger. 369 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:29,420 This is really interesting, 370 00:16:29,522 --> 00:16:32,123 because your common garden troops 371 00:16:32,225 --> 00:16:33,669 are not gonna be carrying a Luger. 372 00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:35,326 This is kind of elite stuff. 373 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,928 It's not the sort of kit 374 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:39,497 that you're gonna be handing out to recruits. 375 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,333 That suggests that you've got some troops in the area 376 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:44,435 who kind of know what they're about. 377 00:16:47,741 --> 00:16:49,440 - Oh, really? 378 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,142 - In this... in this position. 379 00:16:51,211 --> 00:16:52,677 - So there's a radar here. 380 00:16:54,314 --> 00:16:56,514 - Really? 381 00:16:59,452 --> 00:17:01,564 - There's a whole level of sophistication 382 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:04,188 to support clandestine operations. 383 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:06,357 Something big was going on here. 384 00:17:06,459 --> 00:17:08,626 - Look at this room in here. 385 00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:10,673 - It's a big one. - Look at this. 386 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:13,998 - Yeah. - What went on in here? 387 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,752 - Luftwaffe's here, the German air force. 388 00:17:22,776 --> 00:17:24,587 This is like some sort of a command post 389 00:17:24,611 --> 00:17:26,110 or a control center? 390 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:28,772 - What aircraft are we talking about here? 391 00:17:29,783 --> 00:17:31,115 - Night fighters. 392 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,386 Operating from as far north 393 00:17:35,488 --> 00:17:38,556 as the Danish coast, the Nazi night fighters were 394 00:17:38,658 --> 00:17:40,058 one of the most elite squadrons 395 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,126 of Hitler's Luftwaffe air force. 396 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,028 Utilizing experimental forms 397 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:46,798 of radar, avionics, and weaponry, 398 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:49,333 they executed missions in the dead of night, 399 00:17:49,436 --> 00:17:52,870 wreaking havoc on Allied targets. 400 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:55,251 - Well, the interesting thing, Lenny, about this place 401 00:17:55,275 --> 00:17:57,195 is that anyone who's working here 402 00:17:57,277 --> 00:17:59,577 is doing so under, you know, high security. 403 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:02,413 You know, you're not allowed to breathe a word of this. 404 00:18:02,515 --> 00:18:04,660 In other words, these are people that can keep a secret. 405 00:18:04,684 --> 00:18:06,851 These are people you can trust. 406 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:09,353 If I was Hitler and if I was trying to get out, 407 00:18:09,456 --> 00:18:11,167 I would want to come to Denmark. 408 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:14,358 It's the one place where the Germans are still occupying, 409 00:18:14,461 --> 00:18:16,305 that they've got all the infrastructure 410 00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:17,862 that you could possibly want. 411 00:18:17,964 --> 00:18:19,175 You've got the secure bunkers, 412 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:20,665 you've got the radar system, 413 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,166 and you've got troops. 414 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:24,146 So Denmark is about as good a place 415 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:27,271 as you can hope to go to, as any in the world. 416 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:34,990 - What I really find interesting about Misiones 417 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:37,582 is, of course, we have this fifth structure here 418 00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:39,562 that's consistent with the others. 419 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:41,018 While the European team 420 00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:43,121 continues to investigate Denmark, 421 00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:44,900 Bob and John review the findings 422 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,592 from the jungles of Misiones, Argentina, 423 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:50,828 which could be home to a Nazi militarized compound, 424 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:55,099 as reported by a declassified Argentinian document. 425 00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:58,202 - It is not consistent with a civilian structure. 426 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:00,416 This is out in the middle of the jungle. 427 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,674 These people were prepared for an attack of some sort. 428 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:05,109 - Agreed. 429 00:19:05,211 --> 00:19:07,345 And here I have the discoveries 430 00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:10,114 that we found from our investigative efforts. 431 00:19:10,216 --> 00:19:13,618 There's a wall that's encircling the compound. 432 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,119 You have the guard shack, 433 00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:17,121 and you also have building number four. 434 00:19:17,223 --> 00:19:19,290 It's a two-story structure 435 00:19:19,392 --> 00:19:22,727 that looks like it could have been used 436 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:25,229 to house soldiers or security forces. 437 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:26,864 - You know, the patterns, 438 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:29,245 it does look like some sort of outer perimeter. 439 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:31,903 - What's really critical here is building one. 440 00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:34,505 This is the one with the opulent residence. 441 00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,841 This is the epicenter. 442 00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:39,121 - Then everything else surrounds that. 443 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:42,813 It's clear to me this was some sort of compound. 444 00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:46,584 - Now, look at this, this right here. 445 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:48,519 It's strange. 446 00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:52,890 Here's the water, and this is a point that's not protected. 447 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:56,194 This is the proverbial Achilles heel. 448 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:59,564 Anybody that knows anything about fortifying 449 00:19:59,666 --> 00:20:01,399 any type of military compound 450 00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:04,435 would not leave this open right here. 451 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:06,037 This is pretty conspicuous. 452 00:20:06,139 --> 00:20:07,872 - Yeah. 453 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:11,709 - If I was seeking to capture whoever was in building one, 454 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,111 there's only one place I would come in, 455 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:17,715 and that's the small inlet shaped just like a heel. 456 00:20:17,817 --> 00:20:20,918 And there appears to be a straight shot from the inlet 457 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,721 directly to building number one. 458 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:26,168 - You get a Zodiac there on the shore 459 00:20:26,192 --> 00:20:28,170 and be up at building one without a protection 460 00:20:28,194 --> 00:20:29,961 in two minutes. 461 00:20:30,063 --> 00:20:31,874 You simply don't take your chances 462 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:34,276 hoping that nobody's going to come up out of the water. 463 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:35,678 You have to look at all the labor 464 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,468 that went into this compound. 465 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:40,071 We're talking millions of dollars to build this place. 466 00:20:40,173 --> 00:20:42,351 And if you're going to put that kind of money into it 467 00:20:42,375 --> 00:20:45,409 and put military arms into it, 468 00:20:45,511 --> 00:20:48,746 you're going to find a way to defend the whole thing. 469 00:20:48,848 --> 00:20:51,315 - We need to get our team on the ground here 470 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:54,585 and to find out what else is here or may have been there 471 00:20:54,687 --> 00:20:56,498 that would have offered more protection 472 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:58,055 for building number one. 473 00:20:58,157 --> 00:21:00,825 - Yeah, we have to complete the picture here. 474 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:13,571 - Movement of a high-value target in this area, 475 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:16,073 you can't find a better place on the planet to do it 476 00:21:16,175 --> 00:21:17,608 than right here. 477 00:21:17,710 --> 00:21:20,311 Tim Kennedy, Alasdair Brooks, 478 00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:21,946 and Daniel Schávelzon 479 00:21:22,048 --> 00:21:24,181 navigate the waters of the Paraná River, 480 00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:27,752 which runs along the Misiones compound. 481 00:21:27,854 --> 00:21:31,122 - So I have our point of interest plotted on the GPS 482 00:21:31,224 --> 00:21:32,657 in between these cliffs 483 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:34,625 right at the water's edge. 484 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:40,197 - These cliffs are certainly spectacular. 485 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,111 - They're visually stunning, absolutely, 486 00:21:42,135 --> 00:21:45,936 but as a climber, those are treacherous. 487 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:48,506 - Even if you're not carrying that much equipment, 488 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,474 these are a barrier. 489 00:21:50,576 --> 00:21:54,312 - Right around this bend is that spot. 490 00:21:56,049 --> 00:21:58,282 - So this is it. 491 00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:00,529 - So we have a cliff face here, another cliff here, 492 00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:03,187 and this somewhat lower level when you look at it. 493 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:07,224 - That's some of the densest jungle we've seen so far. 494 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:08,893 - There could be someone 495 00:22:08,995 --> 00:22:10,795 standing one foot in that vegetation, 496 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,029 and we couldn't see them. 497 00:22:12,131 --> 00:22:13,575 You could have artillery sitting there, 498 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:14,732 and we couldn't see it. 499 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,211 - You could have a house in there, 500 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:17,868 and you couldn't see it. 501 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:19,915 - There are houses in there, and we can't see them. 502 00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:21,672 - Absolutely true. 503 00:22:23,276 --> 00:22:25,343 It's difficult for us to get close. 504 00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,045 - Yeah, there's a bunch of logs and tree stumps 505 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:29,547 that are in there too. 506 00:22:30,983 --> 00:22:33,851 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 507 00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:35,920 You see that? 508 00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:39,156 Hey, can we flip back around? 509 00:22:39,258 --> 00:22:41,136 - Do you think you saw something? 510 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,771 - There is definitely a different color 511 00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,406 from the vegetation in the background. 512 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,330 I saw something kind of tan. 513 00:22:46,432 --> 00:22:48,332 - Something over here? 514 00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:50,474 - Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Right there. 515 00:22:50,503 --> 00:22:53,504 Is that all one big rock? 516 00:22:53,606 --> 00:22:54,606 - It is. 517 00:22:54,674 --> 00:22:56,407 - If this is your access point 518 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:58,120 and they're building fortifications 519 00:22:58,144 --> 00:23:00,778 that prevent your access, this is strategic. 520 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,013 We got to see what that is. 521 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,418 Oh, it's cold. 522 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,800 - Be careful. 523 00:23:23,536 --> 00:23:25,603 - That is way bigger than I thought. 524 00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:27,204 And it's thick enough. 525 00:23:27,306 --> 00:23:28,706 It would stop bullets. 526 00:23:28,808 --> 00:23:30,374 It would stop a grenade. 527 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:34,779 Look at this. 528 00:23:34,881 --> 00:23:36,580 That's timber. 529 00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:39,483 It's not a tree. 530 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:42,720 This might be the... like, the edge of a foundation 531 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:44,655 to a structure right here. 532 00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:48,893 They could have built it right into this wall. 533 00:23:48,995 --> 00:23:50,406 It would have had overhead cover. 534 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,307 Use some of the vegetation as camouflage, 535 00:23:52,331 --> 00:23:53,375 pile it up on top of this. 536 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,833 This is completely bullet-proof 537 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:59,470 at the one point that you have access to the shore. 538 00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:04,809 Wait. What is this? 539 00:24:04,911 --> 00:24:07,845 This, you cannot miss. 540 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:10,648 That is a perfect right angle. 541 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:12,183 These are chisel marks too. 542 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,785 What the... 543 00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:17,321 You could shoot straight across this. 544 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,190 There's no possible way 545 00:24:19,292 --> 00:24:23,194 that somebody could get across this body of water alive. 546 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:26,530 This is going to give you an elevated position 547 00:24:26,632 --> 00:24:28,365 to rain down hell. 548 00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:36,607 - We have this infrastructure 549 00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:38,442 along the coast of Denmark. 550 00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:42,346 Obviously, elite German Nazi forces were there. 551 00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:44,448 - Which would have been loyal to Hitler. 552 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:47,184 - Definitely the ability to protect Hitler. 553 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:48,819 - Yeah, I agree. 554 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,155 Bob and John discuss the European leg 555 00:24:51,257 --> 00:24:54,024 of their investigation, which is focusing 556 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:56,206 on Hitler's possible flight to Denmark 557 00:24:56,262 --> 00:24:58,529 the day before he was believed dead, 558 00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,999 as reported by a declassified MI6 file. 559 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:05,736 - The question is, if Baumgart or any other pilot 560 00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:09,039 were to come into Denmark, where's the airstrip? 561 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:10,808 - Yeah, I agree. 562 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:12,921 - Let's dig into the database to see what we can find. 563 00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:15,179 - Yeah, let's see what we come up with. 564 00:25:19,118 --> 00:25:23,787 Nuremburg trial, 15 March 1948. 565 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:29,560 Interrogation of Friedrich von Angelotty-Mackensen. 566 00:25:29,662 --> 00:25:32,429 - Yeah, he was a major in the SS. 567 00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:37,868 - "You saw Hitler and several comrades in May 1945." 568 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:39,436 "Yes." 569 00:25:39,539 --> 00:25:41,405 "Who were his comrades?" 570 00:25:41,507 --> 00:25:45,709 "I only know that in one of the planes in which Hitler was, 571 00:25:45,811 --> 00:25:49,346 "that this plane was being flown or piloted 572 00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:52,216 by a certain Captain Baumgart." 573 00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:53,851 Voila. 574 00:25:53,953 --> 00:25:55,920 "Where did you see them?" 575 00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:57,288 "In Tonder." 576 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,292 - Where's Tonder? 577 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:04,194 - I've never heard of it. 578 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:07,898 There we go. 579 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,444 - Right there, at the German border. 580 00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:11,201 - Yeah, right on the German border. 581 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:15,272 So basically, if this SS major was right, 582 00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:17,241 he flies from Berlin. 583 00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:20,477 As soon as he gets across the border into Denmark, 584 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:25,382 which is still Nazi occupied... And puts down there. 585 00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:28,986 Here's a guy whose life was in the balance, 586 00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:31,322 and in the middle of the questioning, 587 00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:34,391 he says he saw Hitler in Tonder. 588 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:35,893 I think that's huge. 589 00:26:35,995 --> 00:26:37,628 "Hitler." 590 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:39,763 "Tonder." 591 00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:41,565 "Denmark." 592 00:26:45,237 --> 00:26:47,404 There we go. 593 00:26:47,506 --> 00:26:52,009 - Luftwaffe airfields from 1935 to '45 in Denmark. 594 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:55,613 The landing ground of southwest Denmark. 595 00:26:55,715 --> 00:26:59,149 It was a World War I German airship station. 596 00:26:59,251 --> 00:27:01,530 It was abandoned after the First World War. 597 00:27:01,554 --> 00:27:04,099 It was listed in World War II German documents 598 00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:07,291 as an available landing ground. 599 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:11,629 - It's a clandestine airport. 600 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:12,908 It's what we were looking for. 601 00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:14,498 It's utterly remarkable. 602 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,211 This isn't like a known place, you know? 603 00:27:16,235 --> 00:27:18,969 If he said, "Oh, I saw Hitler at Copenhagen Airport," 604 00:27:19,071 --> 00:27:20,337 that's sort of a giveaway. 605 00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:22,506 But he's talking about a base 606 00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:25,476 that was unknown to most people, 607 00:27:25,578 --> 00:27:27,311 probably to very few people. 608 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:29,313 It had been a World War I base 609 00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:32,483 that it was possible to still land in there. 610 00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:34,463 - Well, it had to be, because he was there. 611 00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:35,519 - Yeah. 612 00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,221 The question is, one, 613 00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:40,624 could you put an airplane down that's flown from Berlin? 614 00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:42,359 Two, what do you do from there? 615 00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:44,940 - We need to get the team in there to look at that 616 00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:48,732 to see how it could have been used in late April 1945. 617 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,134 - Let's get into Tonder. 618 00:27:59,178 --> 00:28:00,244 - Well, rumors. 619 00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:01,679 - There's rumors. 620 00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:03,091 - You know what rumors are, right? 621 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,581 - Yeah, yeah. 622 00:28:04,684 --> 00:28:06,984 Where there's smoke... 623 00:28:07,086 --> 00:28:09,720 - We'll find a fire. 624 00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:11,655 Lenny DePaul and James Holland 625 00:28:11,757 --> 00:28:13,991 head for the location of the Tonder airfield 626 00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:15,559 in search of evidence 627 00:28:15,661 --> 00:28:17,439 that Hitler could have used this site 628 00:28:17,463 --> 00:28:19,063 as a transit point to Spain. 629 00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:20,742 - Here we go. - Oh, here it is right here. 630 00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:21,832 - Yeah. 631 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:24,334 - All right, let's go in here. 632 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,239 Looks like a hangar. 633 00:28:29,341 --> 00:28:31,875 Certainly could have accommodated an airplane. 634 00:28:31,977 --> 00:28:33,210 Massive, massive building. 635 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:34,623 Yo! - Hello! 636 00:28:34,647 --> 00:28:35,546 - I'm Lenny. - Anders. 637 00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,414 - Anders, nice to meet you. 638 00:28:37,516 --> 00:28:39,616 The team makes contact with Anders Jacobsen, 639 00:28:39,719 --> 00:28:42,453 an expert on Nazi Luftwaffe activities in Denmark. 640 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:43,754 - What is this? 641 00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:47,691 - It was originally built in 1914 642 00:28:47,793 --> 00:28:51,695 to protect the German imperial navy airship base here. 643 00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:52,830 - What about the runway? 644 00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:54,565 - The airstrip right here, 645 00:28:54,667 --> 00:28:56,734 in both directions. 646 00:28:56,836 --> 00:28:58,213 - Really? Just right in front of us? 647 00:28:58,237 --> 00:28:59,481 - Yes. - This way? 648 00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:01,149 - Yes. - Is there any remnants 649 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:02,684 of a tarmac or pavement or anything? 650 00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,108 - No, no. 651 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:06,621 There was no tarmac or anything, no concrete. 652 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:07,945 It was grass. 653 00:29:08,047 --> 00:29:10,225 - They landed on grass. - They landed on grass. 654 00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:12,227 - And what kind of troops would have been here? 655 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:15,919 - We have reports of Luftwaffe personnel being here. 656 00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:20,457 In total clandestine conditions, you could land here. 657 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,726 There would be no one here 658 00:29:22,828 --> 00:29:25,562 except those people that you would like to be here. 659 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,432 This was top secret at that time. 660 00:29:28,534 --> 00:29:30,245 - It wasn't a concrete runway or anything, 661 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:31,969 but it's still in German hands. 662 00:29:32,071 --> 00:29:34,231 It's got all the facilities you could need. 663 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,940 It's not on the enemy radar at all. 664 00:29:37,042 --> 00:29:39,309 You know, that has a lot to be said for it. 665 00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,612 - How long was the runway? Any idea? 666 00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:45,949 - It would have been about 1,000 times, 1,000 meters. 667 00:29:46,051 --> 00:29:48,118 So... - Not quite a mile. 668 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,419 - Yeah. 669 00:29:49,522 --> 00:29:51,255 - This is pretty big. 670 00:29:51,357 --> 00:29:53,490 But if these trees did exist, 671 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,837 you're certainly not going to get a big airplane in here. 672 00:29:55,861 --> 00:29:57,327 Maybe a smaller one, 673 00:29:57,429 --> 00:29:59,608 but how's anybody going to get out of here 674 00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,192 on a bigger aircraft and make his way all the way to Spain? 675 00:30:02,268 --> 00:30:05,102 - That discounts it completely. 676 00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:07,764 - What if these trees weren't here? 677 00:30:08,641 --> 00:30:10,974 - If there was nothing there, boom, 678 00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:13,043 perfect spot to land and take off. 679 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:17,648 But if those trees were standing 70 years ago, we're in trouble. 680 00:30:19,752 --> 00:30:21,451 This one here looks good. 681 00:30:21,554 --> 00:30:23,031 I'm going to take a sample of this tree 682 00:30:23,055 --> 00:30:24,488 and make a determination 683 00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:26,824 on how long this tree's been standing here. 684 00:30:26,926 --> 00:30:29,193 Got to get in there as deep as I can, 685 00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:34,131 so at least six inches, anyway. 686 00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:36,967 Lenny uses an incremental borer, 687 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:38,802 a highly specialized instrument 688 00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:41,638 that acquires a sample from deep within a tree's core 689 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:44,241 that will allow experts to determine the age 690 00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:48,412 of these trees down to the month. 691 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:51,815 - That's what I'm looking for right there. 692 00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:53,817 There's my sample. 693 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:56,687 We're talking about a 70-year-old cold case here. 694 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:58,355 The smallest bit of evidence, 695 00:30:58,457 --> 00:31:00,235 like this tree sample that I just took, 696 00:31:00,259 --> 00:31:02,070 stands in the way between me knowing 697 00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:04,072 whether or not Hitler could have flown out of here 698 00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:05,729 on a big aircraft. 699 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:08,799 These results could be what makes or breaks the case. 700 00:31:16,175 --> 00:31:17,708 - This manmade structure... 701 00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:19,977 And you can see where the rock is cut here... 702 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,379 There's no other explanation for that 703 00:31:22,481 --> 00:31:25,115 except to defend this group of buildings. 704 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:27,384 Bob Baer and John Cencich 705 00:31:27,486 --> 00:31:30,254 review the findings from the team in Misiones, Argentina. 706 00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:32,133 - I mean, I'll go out on a limb. 707 00:31:32,157 --> 00:31:36,393 And considering what we found, this was a Nazi compound. 708 00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,731 You've got weapons, bullets, 709 00:31:40,833 --> 00:31:44,668 guard houses, defensible perimeter. 710 00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:47,137 It was a Nazi military zone, 711 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:51,642 and it was protecting one person who was very important. 712 00:31:51,744 --> 00:31:54,978 Whoever was there didn't feel comfortable 713 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,114 wandering around South America. 714 00:31:57,216 --> 00:32:00,083 It had to be somebody really damn important. 715 00:32:00,185 --> 00:32:02,753 The problem is, the only thing we have 716 00:32:02,855 --> 00:32:06,957 connecting Hitler with this is the stomach medicine. 717 00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:08,425 - It's a potential connection. 718 00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:16,433 - Hitler has a serious ailment, 719 00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:19,703 and stockpiles of medicine for that type of problem 720 00:32:19,805 --> 00:32:22,306 are found in this building in Misiones. 721 00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,509 - I think the stomach medicine is important, 722 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:27,678 but it's tenuous. 723 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:29,379 I like the stomach medicine, 724 00:32:29,481 --> 00:32:32,950 but it's really just highly speculative. 725 00:32:33,052 --> 00:32:34,729 I mean, that's not going to convince me 726 00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:36,053 at the end of the day. 727 00:32:36,155 --> 00:32:37,821 I want something more. 728 00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:41,325 - Let's not forget that within 50 miles, 729 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,460 there are several small towns. 730 00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:46,107 From my perspective, that's the next logical place 731 00:32:46,131 --> 00:32:49,166 to take this investigation, is to find out 732 00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:52,536 whether or not there are people still alive 733 00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:55,739 or people alive that have been told from others 734 00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,953 what was going on at this location. 735 00:32:57,977 --> 00:33:00,844 - Yeah, I'd be shocked if people in that area 736 00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:03,180 didn't know something about this compound. 737 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:05,649 Someone is going to have something to say 738 00:33:05,751 --> 00:33:07,184 that's going to add another piece 739 00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:10,654 that may put us closer to putting Hitler here. 740 00:33:10,756 --> 00:33:12,322 - Sounds like a plan. 741 00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:29,506 - Let's walk across and talk to that guy right there. 742 00:33:29,608 --> 00:33:31,041 Tim Kennedy makes his way 743 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:32,509 through the small towns 744 00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:35,012 that make up the Misiones province, 745 00:33:35,114 --> 00:33:37,347 50 miles from the Nazi militarized compound 746 00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:38,682 in the jungle. 747 00:33:41,487 --> 00:33:42,953 - No, no, no, no. 748 00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:49,437 - So we'll have to find somebody to talk to. 749 00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:51,294 Tim is joined 750 00:33:51,397 --> 00:33:54,197 by world-renowned investigative journalist Gerrard Williams 751 00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:56,433 and a local translator. 752 00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:59,369 - To try and track down the escape of Adolf Hitler 753 00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:01,104 70 years after it happened 754 00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:03,273 is going to be difficult for anybody. 755 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:05,220 - I'm trying to find German families 756 00:34:05,244 --> 00:34:07,389 that lived in this area for a really, really long time. 757 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:08,656 No. - No? 758 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,125 - Okay, bueno. - Thank you. 759 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:11,615 - To think that he escaped 760 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:14,051 and we are still being lied to 70 years on 761 00:34:14,153 --> 00:34:17,320 makes me very, very angry and always will do. 762 00:34:17,423 --> 00:34:19,467 So we follow as many leads as we can, 763 00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:21,825 every single thing that we come up against. 764 00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:23,160 - We're trying to find 765 00:34:23,262 --> 00:34:25,829 if there's any rich German families. 766 00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:27,464 - No, no, no, no. 767 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:33,081 - The ones that look like they'd know something 768 00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:34,516 are the guys that never want to talk. 769 00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:35,806 - Yeah. 770 00:34:35,908 --> 00:34:37,218 - There's a recurring theme here. 771 00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:39,076 - Hmm. - Everywhere. 772 00:34:39,178 --> 00:34:40,710 To this day, 773 00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:46,750 the power of the Nazi idea still exists here. 774 00:34:46,852 --> 00:34:50,287 People are still tight-lipped, close-mouthed 775 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:52,956 about anything associated with the Nazis. 776 00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:57,527 - Buenas tardes. - Buenas tardes, chicos. 777 00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:02,165 - My friend and I are trying to find families here in the area, 778 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,600 specifically German families 779 00:35:03,702 --> 00:35:05,622 that have lived here a long time. 780 00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:10,118 - He says it could be a little dangerous, actually, 781 00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:12,843 to talk about it in this area. 782 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,153 - After the war or before the war? 783 00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:25,288 It's after the war. 784 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:27,390 - After the war. - I'm a journalist... 785 00:35:31,396 --> 00:35:33,864 - Okay, he tells us that there actually is one person 786 00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:35,398 who might could help us out. 787 00:35:37,336 --> 00:35:39,736 - Okay, he's called Anibel Silvero. 788 00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:40,737 - Silvero. 789 00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:42,372 - He's from here, yeah, 790 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,452 and he knows a lot of what happened about Nazis. 791 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:48,411 - It's obvious the city holds a seriously dark secret. 792 00:35:48,514 --> 00:35:50,225 There are many, many German families here 793 00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:51,681 that are hiding something. 794 00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,761 But you only do that for one reason: 795 00:35:53,785 --> 00:35:55,585 because they're still scared. 796 00:35:55,687 --> 00:35:57,232 There is still a huge amount more 797 00:35:57,256 --> 00:35:59,890 to be discovered in Misiones. 798 00:35:59,992 --> 00:36:01,402 And that's what we're going to do. 799 00:36:01,426 --> 00:36:03,260 We'll get to the bottom of it. 800 00:36:12,237 --> 00:36:14,437 - We're a long way from a main road, Tim. 801 00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:16,239 - Yeah. 802 00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:18,975 In the outskirts of Misiones, Argentina, 803 00:36:19,077 --> 00:36:20,989 Tim Kennedy and Gerrard Williams 804 00:36:21,013 --> 00:36:24,147 prepare to make contact with a local man 805 00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,860 who is rumored to have information 806 00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:28,385 about Nazi activities in the area. 807 00:36:28,487 --> 00:36:31,254 - Honestly, I'm not totally comfortable 808 00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:34,724 meeting someone we haven't vetted in the... 809 00:36:34,826 --> 00:36:36,971 - On a dirt road in the middle of the forest in Argentina? 810 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:38,873 - After we've been walking around town 811 00:36:38,897 --> 00:36:40,263 asking about Nazis. 812 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:46,269 Their contact 813 00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:48,572 has requested to meet the team at night, 814 00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:52,275 due to the sensitivity of his information. 815 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:57,113 - I got your back. 816 00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:00,417 - Hola, señor. - Hola. 817 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:01,829 - Hola, hola. - Buenas noches. 818 00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:03,464 - Buenas noches. - Geraldo. 819 00:37:03,488 --> 00:37:04,521 Why are we here? 820 00:37:17,436 --> 00:37:20,537 - Why here, out in the forest, in the middle of nowhere? 821 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:43,860 - It's really close. He said you need to come and see it. 822 00:37:56,575 --> 00:37:59,876 - What the hell is this, in the middle of the forest? 823 00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:05,315 That's amazing. 824 00:38:12,691 --> 00:38:15,492 - What is this place? 825 00:38:19,698 --> 00:38:21,931 - The house was built in the '40s, 826 00:38:22,034 --> 00:38:25,502 and this was the most wealthy family in the area. 827 00:38:37,282 --> 00:38:41,718 - This family had meetings here in this house under a Nazi flag. 828 00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:43,253 Rumors actually say 829 00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:47,023 that they also were heiling before going in. 830 00:38:49,461 --> 00:38:52,095 - Is it safe to go inside? Can we go and walk around? 831 00:38:55,067 --> 00:38:56,299 - Okay. 832 00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:17,654 - What the hell? 833 00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:24,427 Gerrard. 834 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:25,995 The tile in here? 835 00:39:26,098 --> 00:39:28,431 - Yeah? 836 00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,467 - I've seen it before. 837 00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:31,968 - Where? 838 00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:34,971 - In a military compound off the Paraná river. 839 00:39:35,073 --> 00:39:37,807 - The same style, Tim? The same color, what? 840 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,410 - The pattern, the layout. 841 00:39:40,512 --> 00:39:42,390 They either had the same designer, 842 00:39:42,414 --> 00:39:44,092 the same architect, the same supplier, 843 00:39:44,116 --> 00:39:45,482 or all of the above. 844 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,589 - Well, I'd say it's been deserted a while. 845 00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:56,393 Why is this house derelict? 846 00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:58,361 Where did the Bremers go? 847 00:40:07,606 --> 00:40:10,507 - Could this house be a safe house? 848 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:13,343 Could this simply be a place where intelligence was gathered? 849 00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:16,279 We don't really know at this stage. 850 00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:17,881 - Can you ask Anibel... 851 00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:19,961 We need names for people that we can go and talk to. 852 00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:21,518 Can he supply us with any? 853 00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:29,793 - Goering? - Goering. 854 00:40:29,895 --> 00:40:33,062 The grand-niece of Hermann Goering. 855 00:40:33,165 --> 00:40:35,899 - Hermann Goering, the head of the Luftwaffe, 856 00:40:36,001 --> 00:40:40,370 his great-niece is living in Misiones? 857 00:40:40,472 --> 00:40:42,071 - Coincidences like this don't exist. 858 00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:45,175 - It's not a coincidence. How can it be? 859 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:48,845 Goering obviously rings immediate alarm bells 860 00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:51,381 to anybody who studied the Third Reich. 861 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:53,983 Goering is a founding member of the Nazi party, 862 00:40:54,085 --> 00:40:55,563 and in the event of Hitler's death, 863 00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:57,921 it was Goering who was to become Fuehrer. 864 00:40:58,023 --> 00:41:02,258 To find a relative of that man living in Argentina, 865 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,560 in Misiones, is amazing. 866 00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:04,761 - We have to talk to her. 867 00:41:04,863 --> 00:41:06,563 - Yeah, completely. 868 00:41:06,665 --> 00:41:10,200 This is what happens when you dig in really deeply. 869 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:14,337 We could be on the verge of finally finding the truth. 870 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:19,409 Next time on "Hunting Hitler"... 871 00:41:19,511 --> 00:41:22,178 - Holy. This just got real. 872 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,991 - Where did Margarita find all this? 873 00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:26,082 - Hidden behind a wall. - Sí, mira. 874 00:41:26,184 --> 00:41:27,829 - Behind a wall? Why? 875 00:41:27,853 --> 00:41:29,093 What are they trying to hide? 876 00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:38,495 - Look at the damage on that, Mike! 877 00:41:40,398 --> 00:41:41,742 - Bormann? - Bormann. 878 00:41:41,766 --> 00:41:44,326 - Martin Bormann is meant to be dead. 879 00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:48,705 - We have an alleged picture 880 00:41:48,807 --> 00:41:51,107 of an aged Adolf Hitler, post war. 881 00:41:51,131 --> 00:41:54,131 Subtitles Diego Moraes www.oakisland.tk 65645

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