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Morning.
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Morning.
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It's gone down.
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Ah, here. Ah, Aidan, hang on. Let's get
into town.
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Pack it in, you two. Oh, you know that,
Aidan.
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Come on.
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I said to take Dara this afternoon.
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Get her in a wee break. Ah, it'll be
lovely to see wee Dara.
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What time?
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She'll drop me up around three or four.
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Dara, you all set?
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Aye.
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Can you let her up? Okay.
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Bye. Have a good day.
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Have a good day. Have a good day. Have a
good day.
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Bye, everybody.
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Don't worry, he's going later.
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Head down to Sally's, maybe?
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All right. Go to the front bar.
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Good fun?
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Oh, what? Pit and poppin', eh?
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Uh-huh.
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So where do we start from this, then?
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Vincent's having trouble with
over-eating yesterday.
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She needs to get a new one.
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Ah, she doesn't listen to a word you
say, though.
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Okay, look. Yeah, see you later. See you
later, look.
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No,
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it's not moving, Dad.
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What? It's not moving.
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Here, try this.
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That'll do there.
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No, no better. It was not Thank you.
Thank you Where
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did you get that?
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In the old toolbox
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I got it, da.
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There's a wee hole in the peg. Here,
look.
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Sit there.
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Oh, sit, aye.
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A wee bit of welding will sort that out,
sir. Aye.
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Is that Mike?
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Oh, we would head into town.
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What, now?
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Nostran will tell him to wait, sir. Oh,
you go on ahead, son. I can do this.
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Are you sure, da? Yeah, absolutely.
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That's a good thing.
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Thanks. Will you bring up the welding
equipment before you go, son? Yeah.
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Good.
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See you later, da.
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Later, son.
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See you, Michael.
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See you, Michael.
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Oh, Aidan, if you can open the house,
will you bring some milk with you?
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Aye, no bother.
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All right, Mama. Hi, Aidan. I'm just
heading up the town to buy some jeans.
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OK, love. See you later.
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Oh, Aidan.
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Cathy's meeting Don in the Callagold.
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Have you seen her? Can you tell her not
to forget about the vegetables?
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I'll put some milk in the fridge. There
we go.
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Good lad. Keeping you.
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See you later. See you later.
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Oh, mummy, what size am I?
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32.
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Now, check the label. Don't be getting
the wrong ones.
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Any work from John, hey?
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No, I haven't heard from him.
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Hey, we should call round 9-8 with him.
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That's a good plan, isn't it? I'm sure
he was teaming last night too.
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So he's gone all over the place doing
the pogo. Can you believe that?
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No wonder he was making that noise.
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You've been born from there before,
haven't
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you? Can I get back in there now?
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Okay, okay.
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The car's unpaid.
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Hello,
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Ulster Telephone and Newsroom.
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Bomb, courthouse, on my main street, 30
minutes.
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I'm sorry, can you speak more slowly?
Which main street?
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Courthouse, on my main street.
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Explosion in 30 minutes.
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500 pound bomb.
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Do you have a code word?
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Martha Pope.
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Martha? Martha.
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M-A-R-T-H-A-P-O-P-E. I-R-A.
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don't have a main street.
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Presumably they mean high street, but
that's down from the courthouse, not up.
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Is she sure she took down the warning
right?
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He said on the main street.
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Yes, absolutely.
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I don't know what's wrong with them.
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The brake pads, maybe?
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Yeah, I think they're worrying about
things. Yeah.
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In your dreams, aye.
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That can be fair. Danielle O'Connor, out
of your league O'Connor.
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Put it there.
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How long is this going to be?
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No matter, we've just had the call.
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But I have to get a school uniform back.
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Well, I'd try it another day if I was
you.
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No,
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you can't get through. Thank you. Just
move it on back. Thanks.
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Sorry, there's a bomb warning.
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Up the hill?
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Yeah, there's a bomb warning up at the
coat house. But you can still shop on
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Marcus Street.
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I'm just helping the cars move up here.
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Ladies and gentlemen, please, there's an
evacuation here.
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The warning said 300 yards up from the
courthouse. Just make sure that if
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you're up... We're clearing up from the
courthouse as well. I'm just not
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prepared to take any risks.
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Clear everybody down to the bottom of
Market Street.
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Anyone up the top of the hill, make sure
that they're left down to the bottom of
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the street.
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That's it, down to the bottom of the
street.
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Gentlemen, thank you very much.
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Bottom of the hill there, please. Thank
you.
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And you, sir, madam, thank you very
much.
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Everyone move down to the bottom of the
hill. Thank you.
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Thanks a lot.
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Sorry, lads, you can't go up there.
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I just want to pop around the corner.
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No, we need to clear you down to the
bottom of the hill.
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That's all right.
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There's a security alert at the
courthouse, so we need to get you to the
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bottom of the hill. All right. All
right? Okay. Thank you.
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Kathy's been salivating. I was supposed
to tell her to get stuff for mummy.
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We'll head that way now. Sure.
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Not that, Mummy.
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I'll make some tea. Did you see Aidan?
He was looking for you.
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No, I must have missed him.
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I'm going to have to be home.
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I'm going to speak to your gentleman.
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Thank you.
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It should be all right.
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We're moving there, walking down to the
bottom of the hill.
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No, she said we're going to try to buy
you a cup of tea anyway.
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We can get it at the Randall's, won't
we?
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Looking for you.
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We'll have time for a sticky one. Sticky
one with coffee.
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Thanks.
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Somebody please help us!
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Daddy!
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Daddy, there's been a bomb in town.
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I came straight over.
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Dad, Kathy was down there.
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Patsy!
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Patsy!
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Patsy!
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Have you seen Kathy?
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It's not me, it's Aidan.
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He's not back yet.
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Michael, he hasn't rung.
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People are injured, he'll be helping. I
know, but he would have found us by now.
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Look, I'll go and find him. I'll go and
find him. I'll go with you, Daddy.
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You stay with your mommy. Stay with your
mommy. Stay with your mommy. Michael.
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No, Mommy. It's all right, Michael. No,
Mommy. It's all right.
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Mommy, I'm sick.
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I'm all good.
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Oh, sorry, sir.
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I didn't listen. I know,
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but Aidan will be helping the rescue.
That'll be the kind of help.
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Sir, there's only official personnel
allowed in.
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I think he would be official if it was
helping. I have to find him and let me.
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My wife knows. You need to get a
hospital, sir.
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He might be helping there.
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I can't, I can't.
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We're going to put the staffing on you,
okay?
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Lorraine Wilson.
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I'll stay here.
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Sorry, Doctor.
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I'm looking for my son, Aidan Gallagher.
Aidan Gallagher.
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We don't know all the names yet.
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36 years ago, she was working in a shop.
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Aidan?
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Aidan?
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Aidan?
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Aidan?
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Excuse me, excuse me.
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Mike.
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Mike.
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Mike.
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Your mommy and daddy, are they here,
son?
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I don't know.
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Has somebody told them, son?
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I don't know.
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But don't worry, I'll phone them, okay?
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Have you seen Aidan?
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Yeah. Where?
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He was standing beside me.
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You mean he was standing beside you when
the bomb went off?
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Is that what you mean?
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Where does he know? Is he still in town?
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That's what I know.
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Okay.
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Okay, son, look.
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I'll phone your mammy and daddy, son,
okay?
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You need to stay awake, son.
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You need to stay awake.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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Nurse, nurse, please, please, please,
look after this boy, please.
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No, he's awake.
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He's in ward number two, third floor.
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No, I'm looking for him now.
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Well, he must be helping
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Deliberately
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misleading warnings about the location
of the device shoppers
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I've seen them myself. I've seen people
helping.
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I don't know where he is, OK? But I'll
go and find him. I'll go and find him,
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OK? Daddy, they're telling people not to
go to the hospital. They'll go to the
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legislature. That's where, if someone's
missing, that's where they're telling us
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to go. Cathy, don't let your mummy watch
the TV, OK?
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Daddy, we need to know. Don't let your
mummy watch the TV, Cathy.
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I'm looking for my son.
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I'm looking for Alan Radford.
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But how
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many are you missing?
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Five. All right, come with me.
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Sorry, can somebody help me please? Can
I help you?
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Gallagher, not in the county or the
Belfast list.
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Not in there, aye?
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Are you sure he's not there?
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No, nothing as yet, Mr Gallagher.
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I'm so sorry, you'll just have to wait.
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Can I help you?
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Michael father right Stanley
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This is Michael Callaghan, one of the
neighbours of mine. This is the Reverend
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there.
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Hello, Michael.
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We were neighbours up in Solihill Park.
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This is Father Muller. This is Danny
McComb.
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I haven't seen you in ages.
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Seven years, huh?
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I can't believe it.
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Is Anne OK?
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She might work tomorrow.
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I thought I'd tell you to wait here.
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What about yourself?
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Well, um, I was working with Aidan on
the car this morning and then he went
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into time to get some jeans.
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The,
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uh, it sounds the real IRA.
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I thought this was all supposed to be
all right.
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Yeah.
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Is there anything I can get you,
Michael?
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No, thanks, Father. I just need to be on
my own for a wee minute.
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See you later, Father.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Gallagher.
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Yeah.
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Please come through.
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Mr. Michael Gallagher.
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Mr. Gallagher, come in. Please, please
sit down.
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I'm sure you know that there have been
fatalities today.
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I know this is very painful for you, but
what we need, Mr. Gallagher, is for you
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to tell us of any identifying features
of your son.
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Sweetheart.
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Sweetheart.
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In the name of the Father, and the Son,
and the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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I can't
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believe I'm
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in a town to
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call
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back later. Is it a joke?
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Excuse me. Excuse me. Can I get by you
there, please?
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Patsy?
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Sharon?
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Okay.
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Are you all right?
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Yeah. Okay. I'll see you tomorrow.
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Okay. See you, darling.
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Do you want me to come food with you?
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No, no, Mummy. We have plenty.
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I'll go with her, Daddy.
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I'll help her, darling.
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Will you be all right? Yeah. Okay. Are
you sure? Yeah, we'll be fine.
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See you, Mummy.
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Okay. See you, darling.
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You know, what are you going to do about
college?
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It's not starting for a few weeks yet.
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Well, you don't have to make up your
mind yet, do you? Of course not. We'll
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be all right. What about you? Yeah,
we'll be fine. We'll be fine.
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We'll be fine. Now look after
yourselves, okay? Okay. Bye.
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Safe driving. Are you sure you'll be all
right? Yes.
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Safe driving.
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You go on upstairs to bed. I'll be up in
five minutes, okay?
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Go on, Ed.
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The group responsible for the OMA
bombing, the real IRA, declared a
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permanent ceasefire at 2am this morning,
following pressure from the provisional
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IRA and the Irish and British
governments.
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Tony Blair said that this didn't alter
his determination to catch the bombs.
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For our part, we have agreed that the
two governments will work together
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and will do everything that is possible
within their power.
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to hunt down those that have been
responsible for this outrage.
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Hello? Is that Michael Gallagher?
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Yes.
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What about this football match?
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Football match?
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Alex Ferguson.
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Roy Keane coming to play a benefit match
in OMA. Surely you knew about that?
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No, no, I haven't heard.
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Do you know if there have been any
charges yet?
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Have the police told you anything about
what they're doing?
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No, no, they haven't.
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Who is this, by the way?
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Lawrence Rush.
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Lawrence Rush?
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before they blew her up. Oh, yes, yes, I
knew Libby.
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The point is, Michael, where's our voice
in all this?
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I don't know.
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I've called a meeting for all the
families.
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The Royal Arms, Tuesday night.
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He's organized a meeting, he says.
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Maybe we should go, Michael.
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Just... to know what's going on.
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It's what they're saying. They're saying
that he wasn't worth anything.
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My daughter has to show her injuries for
the compensation board. Show what they
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did to her.
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I can't believe people would make a
young girl do that.
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This Omer Fund, they seem to be saying
that, like, it's almost like a Victorian
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means test. They're giving money out.
But what I want to know is what the RUC
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is doing.
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Can anyone tell me that?
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No, no, no.
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What has this got to do with the RUC?
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I'll tell you what it's got to do with
the RUC. Go ahead.
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38 people have been arrested.
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And 38 people have been released.
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That's what it's got to do with the RUC.
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00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:49,260
Yes, but most of them are south of the
border. South of the border. That is the
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bar. That is not the RUC.
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Nobody's telling us anything.
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Nobody's telling us a thing.
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I, um, I've written to Tony Blair.
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It's not worth the paper. It's written
on.
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Well, he is the Prime Minister, for
God's sake.
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00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,680
As long as the bombs stay out of London,
they don't give a damn. They don't care.
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It's always been that way.
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00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:17,520
No, no, I'm sorry, Lawrence. I'm sorry.
I can't... Please don't sit there and
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try and tell me that this is all somehow
the fault of the British.
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When are the Irish actually going to
stop taking responsibility for what
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00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:24,660
happens in Ireland?
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Money for bombs.
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Don't go on. Nothing done about that.
Nothing.
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What's the matter?
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It's the Nationalist community.
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What about the Unionist community?
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00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:40,500
If we want peace, we've got to find a
peace that works.
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00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:43,540
As bad as peace? Did he ever put a bomb
under a car?
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00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,840
He doesn't have to.
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00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:48,520
Every time he opens his mouth, he
condemns the peace process.
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Don't talk to me.
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I'm not looking. I'll give you the right
to talk to people.
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00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Please, can we all stop talking to each
other?
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Lawrence, can I say something to
Lawrence?
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00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:04,310
Lawrence, can I say something to
Lawrence? Lawrence, Lawrence, we're not
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going to get anywhere if all we do is
shout at each other. Well said, Michael.
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00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:09,950
We're not going to get anywhere.
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00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:16,150
Go on, Michael, go on. I'm not very good
at public speaking, Stanley. You can do
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it.
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00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:24,670
Look, I haven't put on the TV since the
day we buried our
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Aidan.
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00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:31,440
So I don't know what's happening.
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00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:39,900
But I do know this, there's Catholics in
this room, and Protestants, and
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Presbyterians, and Mormons, Marians
here, and
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some of us believe in God,
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and now maybe some of us have no God.
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00:44:02,910 --> 00:44:07,790
But I can tell you this we're not going
to get anywhere unless we do it together
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That's the truth of the matter
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00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:43,870
Well, you just tell people when they can
talk and when they can't talk.
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00:44:44,610 --> 00:44:47,870
And maybe make a few phone calls every
now and then.
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You can't manage to open your mouth at
home. How are you going to cope with
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00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:52,990
that, love?
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00:44:58,510 --> 00:45:00,490
Come on, it's okay for us to laugh.
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00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:07,150
Well, I just think that it'd be good for
us to be involved, maybe, you know?
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00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:09,030
Right. Mm-hmm.
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00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:12,150
Will we get some drinks?
383
00:45:12,770 --> 00:45:14,170
Yeah. Where do we go? Chips.
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00:45:15,470 --> 00:45:16,470
Oh, no.
385
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,260
I wonder, would it be possible to be put
through to the person in charge of the
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00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:42,260
inquiry, please?
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00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,820
Yes, my name is Michael Gallagher.
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00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:47,860
Is there anybody else in the office that
I could speak to?
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00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,900
I'm Michael Gallagher. My name is
Michael Gallagher.
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00:45:52,340 --> 00:45:55,260
I'm ringing on behalf of the OMA
Self-Help and Support Group.
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00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:58,360
We're the families of the victims of the
bomb.
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00:46:06,220 --> 00:46:07,220
Hello.
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00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:12,150
We're the OMA support group. We have a
meeting with Chief Superintendent
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00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:13,150
Anderson.
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00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:43,370
Chief Superintendent Eric Anderson.
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00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:44,590
It's Mr.
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Gallagher, Michael Gallagher. Mr.
Gallagher, please do come in.
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00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:08,470
Obviously, I'd like to extend my deepest
sympathies to you all at this time.
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00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:10,428
Now, I...
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00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:16,250
Please, if there is anything you need,
anything at all, I presume you all have
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00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:18,210
your own liaison officers by now.
402
00:47:21,010 --> 00:47:26,790
Now, we're still at the very early
stages of a painstaking investigation,
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00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:30,450
and as you can imagine, we're facing an
enormous task.
404
00:47:31,410 --> 00:47:35,710
But my officers are working night and
day, you can be assured of that.
405
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:38,010
Now...
406
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,320
Excuse me, would it be possible for me
to ask a question, please?
407
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,540
Yes, certainly, Mr Gallagher.
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00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:49,120
I think what we all want to know here is
when will you be pressing charges
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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,960
against the men who did this?
410
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:58,120
As I say, we're still at the very early
stages of a very difficult inquiry.
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00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,500
What I can say is we're making good
progress.
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00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,960
We're doing everything we can.
413
00:48:04,820 --> 00:48:06,040
We're trying to do our best.
414
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,860
Do you know who did it?
415
00:48:10,350 --> 00:48:13,770
Obviously, we're all aware the real IRA
has claimed responsibility.
416
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:15,690
I mean the actual people.
417
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:17,310
I know the organisation.
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00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:20,330
We're asking if you know their names.
419
00:48:21,290 --> 00:48:23,610
We have an idea of some of them.
420
00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:27,650
We're getting into a sensitive area
here.
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00:48:29,770 --> 00:48:32,430
Look, I want prosecutions as much as you
do.
422
00:48:33,370 --> 00:48:34,730
But the problem is evidence.
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00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:36,890
Hard information.
424
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,880
We received your letter, but to be
honest, sympathy is not enough.
425
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,560
It's a great start, yes, exactly.
426
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,040
Once we understand the sensitive nature
of the inquiry, things may be sensitive.
427
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,160
Yes, but we need to know why there
haven't been any charges.
428
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,600
Yes, sir.
429
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Yeah, I know, but they can't have
arrested me for no reason, can they?
430
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,800
What about the police?
431
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Well, they acknowledged that an
explosion did occur and is the subject
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00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,120
of an investigation.
433
00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:14,430
I mean, we've asked for a full briefing,
but so far we're not getting very far.
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00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:18,210
On the arrest, I mean, we already know
that they've all been released.
435
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:20,930
Jesus, Pete.
436
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:25,230
The churches have been very good, and
the local community group.
437
00:49:26,090 --> 00:49:27,090
But it's not great.
438
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:29,010
Very observant of you, Michael.
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00:49:32,170 --> 00:49:33,170
OK, look.
440
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:36,370
We could sue them ourselves.
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00:49:37,810 --> 00:49:39,370
The real IRA, the...
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00:49:39,790 --> 00:49:41,370
32 County Sovereignty Committee.
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00:49:41,710 --> 00:49:42,689
All of them.
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00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:46,470
They exist, don't they? They have
assets, money, money coming in from
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00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:48,690
America. But we need evidence. And we'll
get evidence.
446
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:51,170
They did it with O.J. Simpson, OK?
447
00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:55,590
Once he was acquitted, her family sued
for damages and they got a verdict.
448
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:56,910
That's the point.
449
00:49:57,350 --> 00:50:00,430
Christ, if every victim of the trouble
started suing a paramilitary group,
450
00:50:00,510 --> 00:50:01,288
where would it end?
451
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:03,130
Well, Mr. Porter, what I'm saying is
it's possible.
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00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:06,350
Even if they prosecuted one of them, it
would be a start.
453
00:50:08,650 --> 00:50:09,650
Look.
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00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,640
If we did this, there's a chance we
could put them out of business for good.
455
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:14,678
He's got a point.
456
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,820
How much would it cost us?
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00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,000
A million, a million and a half.
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00:50:18,260 --> 00:50:21,940
Where do we go to find that kind of
money? We raise it, Danly. We open a
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00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:22,940
fund, start an appeal.
460
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:24,100
Well, that'll take years.
461
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,500
Years to even make it start.
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00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,360
Somebody called.
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00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:29,000
Says he knows who they are.
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00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,500
What? What do you mean?
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00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Michael, what do you mean?
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00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:37,500
We've got the names.
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00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:39,510
Who was it? Who was that?
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00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:41,810
Didn't say who it was.
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00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:44,110
Jesus Christ.
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00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:51,970
Who'd have thought it, eh?
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00:51:11,370 --> 00:51:13,670
Okay, everybody. We'll be there in about
five minutes.
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00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:15,850
We'll go to the front entrance.
473
00:51:16,350 --> 00:51:19,070
Let's be sure and keep together and
retain our dignity, okay?
474
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:31,790
Stay together.
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00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:34,570
Let's go.
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00:51:40,970 --> 00:51:41,970
You and the real IRA?
477
00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:43,569
Where's MoMA?
478
00:51:43,570 --> 00:51:45,070
What do you know about the MoMA bombing?
479
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:46,690
Murderers! Call in Murphy.
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00:51:46,910 --> 00:51:48,850
He's my son. He was murdered by the real
IRA.
481
00:51:49,490 --> 00:51:50,490
Excuse me.
482
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:51,990
Call in Murphy.
483
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:54,210
Call in Murphy.
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00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:56,710
All those people here tonight.
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00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:58,830
Organizers of the MoMA.
486
00:52:00,190 --> 00:52:03,710
Murderers. How long are you going to
protect them? You killed our citizens.
487
00:52:04,270 --> 00:52:05,750
Why are you protecting them?
488
00:52:19,529 --> 00:52:21,450
Everybody wants us to walk away.
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00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:22,750
Go quietly.
490
00:52:23,610 --> 00:52:25,990
So that they can get on with their peace
process.
491
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:33,950
Please don't give your money to these
people.
492
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:36,670
Please don't give your money to these
people.
493
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:38,230
They killed my son.
494
00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:39,980
Please, please.
495
00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:43,460
I must look after my wife there. Mr.
Gallagher, what are you hoping to
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00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:44,460
achieve here tonight?
497
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,600
Please don't give me your money. Please,
please, please.
498
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,760
I'm sorry, I must look after my wife
here.
499
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,200
I'm all right.
500
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,880
I'm all right.
501
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,840
Thank you.
502
00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:49,750
Where's the rest of them?
503
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:52,570
Stanley wouldn't come on principle.
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00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:54,690
Godfrey and Ann Wilson.
505
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:57,770
We should have spoken to the others at
the very least, Lawrence.
506
00:53:58,090 --> 00:53:59,550
We didn't handle this right.
507
00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:02,730
We're going to upset the whole group.
Are you coming or not?
508
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:06,070
This way, gentlemen, please.
509
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:07,650
He's in a room there.
510
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:10,130
And he's going to face me.
511
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:49,009
Mr. Rush?
512
00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:50,010
That's me.
513
00:54:51,010 --> 00:54:52,010
Jerry Adams?
514
00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:56,690
Michael Canyon.
515
00:54:59,030 --> 00:55:00,030
Thanks for coming.
516
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:02,510
Shall we sit down?
517
00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:15,350
I want to make it clear at the outset
that I'm not talking to you as a
518
00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:16,350
politician.
519
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,540
when I tell you that this bombing was a
dreadful and appalling atrocity.
520
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:26,800
And my heart goes out to you all for the
terrible loss that you're suffering.
521
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,640
Obviously, we in Sinn Féin and the
Republican community would like to do
522
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,620
everything we possibly can to assist
you.
523
00:55:35,020 --> 00:55:38,860
Mr. Adams, what we want to know is who
is responsible.
524
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,280
I don't know.
525
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,400
I don't know who's responsible any more
than you.
526
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:44,780
What about the real IRA?
527
00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:48,540
or the 32-county sovereignty movement.
528
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:51,600
You must know them.
529
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,580
Somebody in Sinn Féin must know
something.
530
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,540
Look, it's no consolation to you.
531
00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:04,280
What we have to do now... Do you know
any of these names?
532
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,200
There's 18 men walking free.
533
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,720
Liam Campbell.
534
00:56:13,340 --> 00:56:14,340
Seamus Daly.
535
00:56:17,290 --> 00:56:18,650
Murphy? I don't know them.
536
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:20,070
Would you tell us if you did?
537
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:24,250
Look, I'm here to help if it's possible.
538
00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:27,910
These people are as much our enemies as
they are yours.
539
00:56:28,270 --> 00:56:31,270
But you could ask your people to help
the police.
540
00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:35,990
Rank and file Republicans are very wary
about any cooperation with the REC.
541
00:56:36,270 --> 00:56:38,030
Well, then ask them to talk to the
Garda.
542
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:40,050
Get the information privately.
543
00:56:40,330 --> 00:56:43,730
Give it to me. I'll pass it on. That
would still involve the REC prosecution.
544
00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:50,620
Do not accept it. Look, what we have got
to do now is make sure that the peace
545
00:56:50,620 --> 00:56:52,600
process keeps moving forward.
546
00:56:54,020 --> 00:56:55,820
Put the past behind us.
547
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,180
That's the only way we're going to deal
with this.
548
00:56:59,260 --> 00:57:05,620
Mr. Adams, my brother was murdered by an
IRA gunman in 1984.
549
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,940
No witnesses came forward for that
either.
550
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,060
So they got away.
551
00:57:14,190 --> 00:57:15,310
So I agree with you.
552
00:57:16,310 --> 00:57:18,130
Let's put the past behind us.
553
00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:22,050
That was my brother then.
554
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:26,170
But this is my son now.
555
00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:31,130
The war is supposed to be over.
556
00:57:32,890 --> 00:57:36,950
You say you want to build a new Northern
Ireland.
557
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:39,490
A peaceful Northern Ireland.
558
00:57:41,350 --> 00:57:48,230
But how can we build a peaceful Northern
Ireland, unless you help us to bring
559
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:50,610
his killers to justice.
560
00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:57,850
I understand what you're saying, Mr.
Gallagher, and my sympathies are with
561
00:57:57,850 --> 00:58:04,630
you. But assisting the RUC is only going
to alienate hardliners in our
562
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:09,070
community, the very people we have got
to keep on board if we're to keep this
563
00:58:09,070 --> 00:58:10,070
thing moving forward.
564
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:12,990
This is the reality we face.
565
00:58:15,140 --> 00:58:17,240
We cannot jeopardise the peace process.
566
00:58:21,020 --> 00:58:23,700
Well, now, they were pleased enough to
come and be photographed at the funeral,
567
00:58:23,740 --> 00:58:25,440
but what are they actually doing now?
568
00:58:27,220 --> 00:58:29,900
I'm sorry, he's busy at the moment. Can
I get him to call you back? No, no,
569
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:32,920
look, the question to ask the British
and Irish government are these. Number
570
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,340
one, how many officers have been
assigned to the inquiry?
571
00:58:35,660 --> 00:58:39,980
And number two, has a witness protection
plan been offered to the general public?
572
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,080
Hello, Father, how you doing?
573
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,060
I don't know, this is very important
now.
574
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,280
The Gardaí haven't even appealed for
witnesses on their website.
575
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,019
I'm sorry?
576
00:58:52,020 --> 00:58:55,820
Yeah, I mean, the one thing that we're
not getting here is the one thing that
577
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:56,698
we all want.
578
00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:00,060
Those men answering to their crimes in a
court of law.
579
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,960
Yeah, but they're just not responding.
580
00:59:04,660 --> 00:59:06,420
You know Victor Barker?
581
00:59:06,660 --> 00:59:07,598
He's English.
582
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,640
He lost his son.
583
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,700
Do you know what he does? He sends
letters to the British Prime Minister,
584
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:12,820
Tony Blair.
585
00:59:13,220 --> 00:59:17,660
And then he gets these personal replies
saying, Dear Victor, best regards to the
586
00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:18,780
family, yours ever, Tony.
587
00:59:20,020 --> 00:59:23,120
You know, and I know that's great, isn't
it? It's lovely.
588
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,940
But then he starts to ask questions, he
wants meetings and everything like that
589
00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:29,620
there, and then he gets a reply from his
secretary, and then he gets a reply from
590
00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:31,860
his assistant to his secretary, and then
it goes to another department.
591
00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:33,180
You know what I mean?
592
00:59:33,580 --> 00:59:34,580
Hello?
593
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:36,220
Yeah, absolutely.
594
00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:38,760
I'm sorry, he's busy at the moment. Can
I take a message?
595
00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:42,380
Well, it finally gets so angry, he sends
a...
596
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,820
of his son over the Tony Blair. Blown
up.
597
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:46,580
It's a terrible picture.
598
00:59:47,180 --> 00:59:50,140
Absolutely. And do you know what they
did, John? They lost it.
599
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:55,960
I swear to God, they lost it. I mean, is
it any wonder the families are so angry?
600
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:57,500
Is it any wonder?
601
00:59:57,740 --> 01:00:00,980
I mean, all we're asking for here is
that the government pay attention
602
01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:02,240
because of it.
603
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,440
John, John, just hang on a second.
604
01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:07,160
I've got to go. Bye-bye.
605
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,680
Pass me.
606
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,960
Pass me.
607
01:00:23,050 --> 01:00:24,230
That was someone from the BBC.
608
01:00:34,170 --> 01:00:36,670
I know this is difficult.
609
01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:40,290
They're doing a panorama programme and
they want to talk to you about it.
610
01:00:41,610 --> 01:00:46,430
I know it's difficult with the phones
going on. And the Belfast Telegraph rang
611
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:48,870
and that interview's at four o'clock,
OK?
612
01:00:49,550 --> 01:00:50,630
Four? Is it four?
613
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,000
Oh, Stanley.
614
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,900
Stanley, I'm in the middle of something
now. I'll give you a call in five
615
01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:05,900
minutes, okay?
616
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,620
And I don't care about why.
617
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,880
Or what or how.
618
01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:47,460
Any of it.
619
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,560
All I want to know is that...
620
01:02:37,759 --> 01:02:38,759
Hello?
621
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,600
Their legacy is carnage.
622
01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:47,880
Carnage that was indiscriminate in every
way.
623
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,440
29 men, women, children and babies were
killed.
624
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,960
The bombers were former members of the
provisional IRA who opposed their
625
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,960
ceasefire.
626
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,880
Liam Campbell lived in a comfortable
house.
627
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,820
just a few yards inside the Irish
Republic.
628
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:14,000
According to intelligence sources, he's
the so-called officer commanding the
629
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,000
real IRA.
630
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:21,140
There are two mobile phones whose
records on the day of the bombing are of
631
01:03:21,140 --> 01:03:22,140
special interest.
632
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,500
One of these two phones belonged to this
man, Colm Murphy.
633
01:03:25,780 --> 01:03:30,720
He said he handed over both his mobile
and his foreman's mobile to another
634
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,600
builder. That builder was Seamus Daly.
635
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:38,780
We spotted Colin Murphy arriving at this
building in Dundalk, which is where we
636
01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:39,738
caught up with him.
637
01:03:39,740 --> 01:03:43,080
I wonder if you could explain to me why
it is that you gave your mobile
638
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:49,660
telephone and the mobile telephone of
your foreman to Seamus Daly on the eve
639
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:50,660
of the OMA bombing.
640
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:52,900
I didn't give my phone to anybody.
641
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,580
Despite the fact that the police on both
sides of the Irish border know the
642
01:03:59,580 --> 01:04:02,700
identities of those they believe to have
been the bombers...
643
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,020
there is no immediate prospect of
charges.
644
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,380
The absence of prosecution is an
increasing burden for the families of
645
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:11,380
the Omobon.
646
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,660
As far as you're concerned, my name's
Captain Fulton.
647
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,880
You said you were in the IRA?
648
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Thirteen years.
649
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,360
So, do you know any of these names?
650
01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:06,560
You're missing McKevitt.
651
01:06:07,620 --> 01:06:08,620
Mickey McKevitt.
652
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,220
He's the one who organized it.
653
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,140
He was the quartermaster. He looked
after the weapons and all the
654
01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:16,140
explosives.
655
01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:20,130
He walked out on the IRA after Adams and
McGinnis signed the Good Friday
656
01:06:20,130 --> 01:06:21,130
Agreement.
657
01:06:21,830 --> 01:06:25,930
He took Campbell and the others with him
and set up the real IRA.
658
01:06:27,970 --> 01:06:28,970
They're not the raw.
659
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:30,970
They hate the IRA.
660
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:35,930
For selling out, for Good Friday, giving
up the enormous struggle.
661
01:06:40,790 --> 01:06:42,530
So, why did you ring me?
662
01:06:44,650 --> 01:06:46,550
I tell you, you're not asking the right
question.
663
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:48,550
But what is the right question?
664
01:06:52,310 --> 01:06:53,410
You don't get it, do you?
665
01:06:57,170 --> 01:06:58,170
They knew.
666
01:07:02,130 --> 01:07:03,530
They knew about the bomb.
667
01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:06,650
How?
668
01:07:06,910 --> 01:07:07,910
How did they know?
669
01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:10,010
Because I was working for them all
along.
670
01:07:11,530 --> 01:07:13,710
The army, MI5.
671
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,280
Well, you see, I told him myself I was a
mole.
672
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,540
I don't understand.
673
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,500
I had a contact in the real area.
674
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,380
He told me there was something big on
him.
675
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:28,460
I thought him spectacular.
676
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:31,960
So I met my RUC handler.
677
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,620
Surely, surely they would have done
something.
678
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,460
Why did they not try to stop it?
679
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:45,470
Did you see any army checkpoints in Oma
that day?
680
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:48,270
Were there any soldiers on the street?
681
01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:53,550
The police, please.
682
01:07:54,730 --> 01:07:55,810
Look, we need help.
683
01:07:57,490 --> 01:07:58,970
It's very confusing, all this.
684
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:25,700
Accusations by former British spy Kevin
Fulton that the intelligence community
685
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:29,720
knew in advance about the OMA bombing
have embarrassed security services and
686
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,899
raised questions about the failure to
bring prosecutions. They've been paused
687
01:08:32,899 --> 01:08:35,540
for the allegations to be investigated
by the police ombudsman.
688
01:08:39,740 --> 01:08:40,859
Stanley, it's me.
689
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,600
It's all over the papers, Nigel. I mean,
is it true?
690
01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:46,439
Well, they're going to have to answer
some questions now. They can't ignore
691
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,660
this. We should go to meet them. Okay,
well, I'm still away in the south. I've
692
01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:50,660
a wee bit more to do.
693
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,800
I'll see you later.
694
01:09:34,490 --> 01:09:35,490
Michael.
695
01:09:35,770 --> 01:09:36,770
Pleased to meet you.
696
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:38,490
My name is John White.
697
01:09:38,930 --> 01:09:41,630
Mr. White. Well, I'll leave you to talk
for a while.
698
01:09:42,170 --> 01:09:47,569
Okay. Thanks for having me. Have you
heard of the Gaudi's National
699
01:09:47,569 --> 01:09:48,569
Surveillance Unit?
700
01:09:48,970 --> 01:09:50,050
No. No, I haven't.
701
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:55,290
Well, we're a secret department. We were
keeping tabs on the real IRA for the
702
01:09:55,290 --> 01:09:56,290
Irish government.
703
01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:58,890
I was working there when the bomb went
off.
704
01:10:00,650 --> 01:10:02,430
I had a source in the real IRA.
705
01:10:02,850 --> 01:10:03,850
A good one.
706
01:10:04,830 --> 01:10:07,190
He got them their cars, stole them, you
know.
707
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:14,190
Anyway, we knew that a car with a bomb
was going to be driven to the border.
708
01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:17,290
So what happened?
709
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:23,930
I was told they were going to let it go.
710
01:10:25,010 --> 01:10:26,010
What?
711
01:10:26,090 --> 01:10:27,090
Deliberately?
712
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:31,750
They said they were going to let it go.
713
01:10:34,060 --> 01:10:35,260
Why would they do that?
714
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:39,180
Protecting the informants.
715
01:10:39,980 --> 01:10:42,940
Maybe they thought a big bomb would
discredit the real IRA, get them out of
716
01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:43,940
the picture, you know?
717
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Maybe they just didn't think it through.
718
01:10:48,180 --> 01:10:49,280
No-one would get killed.
719
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:53,340
Maybe they just fucked up.
720
01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:59,360
30 years of chasing shadows, the machine
gets lazy, you know?
721
01:11:04,170 --> 01:11:08,590
Look, Michael, I'm not saying lots of
honest people, police, didn't try their
722
01:11:08,590 --> 01:11:10,190
best. They did.
723
01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:14,930
But there won't be any prosecutions.
724
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:17,470
Not for Roma.
725
01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:22,050
I know.
726
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:26,110
There have to be. We have to keep the
pressure on. Listen, if
727
01:11:26,110 --> 01:11:30,630
you ask me...
728
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:34,430
They made a deal.
729
01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:40,610
They'll put the guns down, declare a
ceasefire, and we won't prosecute.
730
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:52,390
You're in the way of the peace process,
Michael, and nothing... nothing's going
731
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:53,390
to allow you to do that.
732
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,180
Kathy, what are you doing home?
733
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,000
It's the end of term.
734
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:29,300
Oh, yeah, right.
735
01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:32,100
You knew I was coming home. I phoned
you. Oh, yes, I did. Sorry.
736
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,360
Where's Mother?
737
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:37,300
She's upstairs.
738
01:12:38,380 --> 01:12:40,320
Ah, well, she's better off sleeping.
739
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,360
She won't get out of bed.
740
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:44,720
She never goes out.
741
01:12:45,980 --> 01:12:47,560
She has these days, you know.
742
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:48,980
Who looks after her?
743
01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:52,800
Sharon? Yeah.
744
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,080
Sharon's gone sober. Look, we're doing
okay.
745
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,860
She really likes to be on her own,
doesn't she? It's true. It's not true.
746
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,680
She's too sad to get up.
747
01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:08,740
And you're just as bad. Who's looking
after you? I'm all right. You look
748
01:13:08,740 --> 01:13:13,020
terrible. Really, I'm fine. You both
look terrible.
749
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:15,100
Kathy, I've been to a meeting. You're
always at a meeting.
750
01:13:15,460 --> 01:13:17,240
Every time I've rung, you're at a
meeting.
751
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,080
Or on TV.
752
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,820
Please, stop arguing.
753
01:13:22,090 --> 01:13:23,450
Let's see if the bullet's running
around.
754
01:13:23,850 --> 01:13:25,390
I mean, do you really think they care
what you're doing?
755
01:13:26,170 --> 01:13:30,470
Do you think they're going to stop the
shooting and the bombing just because
756
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:33,270
you gave an interview to the Belfast
Telegraph or the BBC?
757
01:13:35,230 --> 01:13:36,230
Who are you doing it for?
758
01:13:41,690 --> 01:13:43,270
I'm doing it for Aidan. AIDAN!
759
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:06,250
I can't believe it.
760
01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:12,870
Chief Constable, see you now.
761
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,980
I'm very grateful to have this
opportunity to talk to you all today
762
01:14:45,980 --> 01:14:52,740
personally and to try to reassure you
after some of the things that have been
763
01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:53,740
said.
764
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:59,480
I know you'll be concerned about the
Fulton case and so I wanted to brief you
765
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:00,480
myself.
766
01:15:02,260 --> 01:15:05,040
Look, it's very difficult.
767
01:15:06,980 --> 01:15:09,360
The world of intelligence is murky.
768
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,580
And trying to anticipate the intentions
of a terrorist organisation, like the
769
01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:17,480
real IRA, is difficult.
770
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,640
We need good, reliable information.
771
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:30,100
A good informer is worth his weight in
gold, but a bad one is a disaster.
772
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,120
And Kevin Fulton was a bad one.
773
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:38,560
He made things up.
774
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,880
For money.
775
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,020
Trying to tell us what he thought we
wanted to hear.
776
01:15:44,620 --> 01:15:46,680
So we cut him off.
777
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,520
There was nothing else to do.
778
01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:52,700
But he said he knew.
779
01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:55,100
He warned you.
780
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,360
He knew there was something big on.
781
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,020
Well, I'm sorry, obviously, that he's
been given the prominence in the media
782
01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:05,780
that he has, but I can assure you that
there's nothing in this.
783
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Nothing.
784
01:16:09,260 --> 01:16:10,360
I've looked into it myself.
785
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:13,240
Shouldn't there be an independent
opinion on this?
786
01:16:13,580 --> 01:16:17,480
The police ombudsman, aren't they
looking into it? Well, the ombudsman is
787
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:22,800
there to deal with routine complaints,
to give the communities a stake in
788
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,440
policing after Good Friday.
789
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,620
What is the point of the ombudsman if it
isn't looking into the things that we
790
01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:30,640
want investigated?
791
01:16:30,980 --> 01:16:34,200
What we're talking about is
intelligence.
792
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,860
MI5 Special Branch.
793
01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:40,040
It's not the proper area for the
ombudsman.
794
01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:43,880
It's far too sensitive. Surely you
understand that.
795
01:16:44,180 --> 01:16:48,160
Well, what about the Garda surveillance
man in Dublin?
796
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,640
He's telling the same stories.
797
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:53,180
Well, obviously I can't speak for the
Garda.
798
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,920
And Detective Sergeant White is not one
of my officers.
799
01:16:57,860 --> 01:16:59,760
I think he was suspended.
800
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:01,480
Wasn't he, George?
801
01:17:07,610 --> 01:17:09,230
Michael, can I call you Michael?
802
01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:13,930
I understand the frustration that you
all feel.
803
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:17,770
That we all feel when something like
this comes up.
804
01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:22,730
I just wish that you had come to me
earlier with your concerns.
805
01:17:23,130 --> 01:17:24,870
I could have saved you the trouble.
806
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:30,370
Michael, I know you want progress.
807
01:17:30,770 --> 01:17:31,770
So do I.
808
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:33,090
We all do.
809
01:17:33,630 --> 01:17:35,690
But you're scaling down the
investigation.
810
01:17:36,810 --> 01:17:41,890
Mantar adjustments are always reviewed
as any investigation progresses. There's
811
01:17:41,890 --> 01:17:45,850
nothing abnormal in that. Do you
seriously think that I would do anything
812
01:17:45,850 --> 01:17:47,270
to jeopardize the inquiry?
813
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:52,470
You have to trust us.
814
01:17:53,290 --> 01:17:55,210
Otherwise, what else is there?
815
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:24,250
No, I don't think he is doing his best.
He's trying to catch the man who killed
816
01:18:24,250 --> 01:18:25,450
our daughter. He's all we've got.
817
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:41,170
You think we're being told the whole
truth.
818
01:18:41,570 --> 01:18:43,810
You're more stupid and naive than I
thought.
819
01:18:44,690 --> 01:18:45,910
I won't be a part of this anymore.
820
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:48,870
We're committed to prove each other not
listening to this.
821
01:18:49,210 --> 01:18:50,210
Oh, you wait.
822
01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:51,250
I'm sorry, Michael.
823
01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:53,410
Don't.
824
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:54,990
Don't you start.
825
01:18:57,250 --> 01:19:00,390
I'm not going to stand by and let them
get away with it.
826
01:19:01,310 --> 01:19:04,690
I'm going to have to sue the RUC and the
British government.
827
01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:06,930
I'll do it on my own.
828
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,180
It's not working, is it? None of it.
829
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,300
It's been a typical day.
830
01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:23,880
I mean, the whole campaign.
831
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,700
What have we achieved?
832
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,940
Michael, we have achieved... No, I mean,
Stanley, what have we actually achieved?
833
01:19:32,260 --> 01:19:33,660
We've started the civil action.
834
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,160
We've started nothing. We just talked
about starting it, that's all. No,
835
01:19:37,220 --> 01:19:40,500
Michael, come on, that's not true. I'm
going to set up meetings in London next
836
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:43,480
month. We need a million pounds. That's
what we need.
837
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,020
They're closing down the investigation.
838
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:49,100
They're never going to catch them.
Never.
839
01:19:50,060 --> 01:19:52,600
They're still shooting and bombing.
840
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:58,180
They're still walking around the place
drinking in bars, having a good life,
841
01:19:58,340 --> 01:19:59,440
laughing at us.
842
01:20:03,020 --> 01:20:08,080
I mean, there's been over 2,000 unsolved
murders since the beginning of the
843
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,080
Troubles.
844
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,240
Why should we be any different?
845
01:20:14,860 --> 01:20:16,300
I mean...
846
01:20:16,730 --> 01:20:17,730
Maybe they're right.
847
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:23,510
Maybe us pursuing our campaign is
destroying the peace process. You can't
848
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:25,970
start thinking... I confess that,
Stanley, we're getting nowhere.
849
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:29,110
We have supported each other. We've kept
each other going.
850
01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:32,550
Is that not enough to be going on with?
851
01:20:34,690 --> 01:20:35,930
Not anymore, Stanley.
852
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:28,030
Stand home.
853
01:24:12,549 --> 01:24:15,170
Thought I'd come back, try and work
again, you know.
854
01:24:17,770 --> 01:24:19,150
We planned it all together, you know.
855
01:24:21,170 --> 01:24:23,490
Fifty years, and he'd take over, he
said.
856
01:24:27,730 --> 01:24:29,370
I got too old to get out of the chair.
857
01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:31,890
No, it's okay, it's okay.
858
01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:40,820
He was my son, you know.
859
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,480
He was my workmate.
860
01:24:46,060 --> 01:24:47,060
Everything.
861
01:24:49,020 --> 01:24:50,580
He was everything to me.
862
01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:57,280
And... when I'm in the house...
863
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:02,680
and the three of you are talking
together...
864
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:07,220
still doing all the things you've always
done...
865
01:25:11,020 --> 01:25:12,240
And I tell myself it's unfair.
866
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,720
I tell myself it's not true.
867
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,180
Inside, I feel he meant more to me.
868
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:30,280
And I know that's awful.
869
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:33,320
To feel like that.
870
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,640
Because I know how much you loved him.
871
01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:40,330
Patsy?
872
01:26:41,370 --> 01:26:44,210
Patsy, I think I'll just go down to the
birches and see what's going on.
873
01:26:45,130 --> 01:26:48,130
The ombudsman's given a report today.
874
01:26:49,210 --> 01:26:50,210
Yes, I know.
875
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:51,510
Saw it in the paper.
876
01:26:52,610 --> 01:26:53,610
Well, it won't be long.
877
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:59,270
Just think I should show some
solidarity, you know?
878
01:27:04,350 --> 01:27:05,350
All right.
879
01:27:06,570 --> 01:27:07,570
See you later.
880
01:27:57,140 --> 01:27:58,140
Stanley. Michael.
881
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:00,500
How are you?
882
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,480
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you all for
coming here this morning.
883
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:09,000
My name is Sam Pollock. I'm the chief
executive for the police ombudsman's
884
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,300
office in Northern Ireland. I want to
tell you what I remember.
885
01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:17,200
I think you all know about the Sunday
People article in which a man calling
886
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,880
himself Kevin Fulton claimed that he had
told the police about Omar.
887
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,240
We felt it essential to investigate
these allegations, not least to show the
888
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,620
people in Northern Ireland that we are
serious about a new era in policing.
889
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:35,540
I want to introduce you now to the
Police Ombudsman, Nuala O'Long, who will
890
01:28:35,540 --> 01:28:36,760
take you further into the presentation.
891
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,620
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
892
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:40,960
Good morning.
893
01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:47,740
The OMA bomb was the most grave and
exceptional crime in the history of
894
01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:50,860
Northern Ireland and the failure to
bring prosecutions.
895
01:28:51,790 --> 01:28:52,850
Shames us all.
896
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:57,550
I want to start by saying that the
people responsible for the Oma bombing
897
01:28:57,550 --> 01:29:00,990
are the terrorists who planned and
executed the atrocity.
898
01:29:01,370 --> 01:29:05,550
Nothing should ever detract from that
unequivocal fact.
899
01:29:07,530 --> 01:29:12,470
We have established that Kevin Fulton
did pass on information relating to the
900
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:16,470
alleged dissident terrorist activity to
his special branch handlers.
901
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:22,160
The Chief Constable has said that Kevin
Fulton's evidence... was disregarded
902
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,420
because it was unreliable.
903
01:29:24,980 --> 01:29:31,000
But I have to tell you that when we
examined special branch records, we
904
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:36,120
found no formal written record of Kevin
Fulton being unreliable in the period up
905
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,120
to August 1998.
906
01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:42,140
He is graded as a reliable source.
907
01:29:43,969 --> 01:29:47,690
I am satisfied that further action
should have been taken on that
908
01:29:47,690 --> 01:29:52,370
information. It is clear that Special
Branch did not pass it on to the Omabomb
909
01:29:52,370 --> 01:29:53,390
Investigation Team.
910
01:30:15,050 --> 01:30:19,590
More worryingly, in the course of our
review, it became clear to us that
911
01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:24,530
special branch were also in receipt of
other information, which indicated that
912
01:30:24,530 --> 01:30:25,910
an attack on Omar was imminent.
913
01:30:26,330 --> 01:30:33,110
Not least, an anonymous call on the 4th
of August warned that an
914
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:38,670
attack would be made on police in Omar
on the 15th of August, 1998.
915
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:47,480
I have to tell you that these warnings
were not followed up prior to the
916
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:48,480
bombings.
917
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:52,980
Now, significant evidential
opportunities were most certainly lost
918
01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:57,340
when Special Branch did not share the
intelligence with the senior
919
01:30:57,340 --> 01:30:58,340
investigator.
920
01:31:20,599 --> 01:31:25,980
Now this is only one of a number of
concerns we have about the conduct of
921
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:26,980
the inquiry.
922
01:31:27,140 --> 01:31:32,680
We found 360 intelligence records which
we say could have relevance to the Irma
923
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:33,680
bombing.
924
01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:38,400
Of these documents, only 22% have been
made available to the investigation
925
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,400
team.
926
01:31:39,860 --> 01:31:44,200
The book logging all terrorist warnings
at Irma disappeared without explanation.
927
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,000
Whose fault was that?
928
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,600
We don't have any satisfactory answer to
that question.
929
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:55,580
Two months into the investigation, the
investigation team was reduced by 42%.
930
01:31:55,580 --> 01:31:57,720
Shame! Shame!
931
01:32:09,980 --> 01:32:13,020
It's not possible to say what impact...
932
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,560
taken as a result might have had or
whether this action would have prevented
933
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:17,560
the Omar bomb.
934
01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:24,540
But it is little wonder that out of this
uncertainty that doubt and mistrust and
935
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:26,020
conspiracy arise.
936
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:33,040
I have concluded with great sadness that
the judgment and leadership of the chief
937
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,860
constable has been seriously flawed.
938
01:32:37,820 --> 01:32:41,380
The victims, you, the families.
939
01:32:42,730 --> 01:32:47,730
The people of Oma, as well as the
officers of the RUC, have been let down
940
01:32:47,730 --> 01:32:54,330
by defective leadership, poor judgment
and a lack of urgency.
941
01:32:56,630 --> 01:33:01,110
And as a result, the chances of
detaining and convicting the Oma bombers
942
01:33:01,110 --> 01:33:03,770
have been significantly reduced.
943
01:33:16,580 --> 01:33:17,580
Mr.
944
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:37,840
Gallagher.
945
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,380
How do the families feel, Mr. Gallagher?
946
01:33:59,830 --> 01:34:06,710
We lost our sister, Esther Goodson. We
have fought this
947
01:34:06,710 --> 01:34:10,350
far and to hear what we have just heard
is completely devastating.
948
01:34:12,620 --> 01:34:14,780
Please. I'm waiting for you.
949
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,760
Mr. Breslin.
950
01:34:18,380 --> 01:34:20,000
What? Mr.
951
01:34:20,980 --> 01:34:21,980
Wilson. Mr.
952
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,060
Wilson Gallagher. Mr. Gallagher, please.
953
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,780
Mr. Gallagher.
954
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:33,340
Mrs.
955
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,080
O'Lan is the first person...
956
01:34:40,670 --> 01:34:46,090
to tell us the full story of the OMA
investigation and why there have been no
957
01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:47,090
prosecutions.
958
01:34:47,730 --> 01:34:49,110
And we'd like to thank you for that.
959
01:34:51,010 --> 01:34:57,050
The day our loved ones lost their lives
and our families were torn apart, we
960
01:34:57,050 --> 01:35:00,450
were told that everything would be done
to bring their killers to justice.
961
01:35:01,670 --> 01:35:07,250
To learn today that they have failed us,
before the bomb,
962
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:09,510
after the bomb,
963
01:35:10,830 --> 01:35:12,810
and are still failing us now.
964
01:35:14,210 --> 01:35:21,150
To have that knowledge, however
distressing, however shocking, means
965
01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:22,790
that we can at last move forward.
966
01:35:24,450 --> 01:35:28,430
I would like to announce today that we
will be pursuing our own legal action
967
01:35:28,430 --> 01:35:34,250
against the real IRA, against those who
support and fund it,
968
01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:38,370
and those who are responsible for this
dreadful atrocity.
969
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:46,600
But more than that, we would like to
call into account the security forces
970
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:52,000
and the police and the politicians in
London,
971
01:35:52,140 --> 01:35:58,740
Belfast and Dublin who have promised us
so much
972
01:35:58,740 --> 01:36:02,480
but have so far singularly failed to
deliver.
973
01:36:03,620 --> 01:36:05,740
We speak not just for ourselves.
974
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:08,200
We speak...
975
01:36:08,910 --> 01:36:15,070
For the victims of the troubles of
whatever tradition And all those victims
976
01:36:15,070 --> 01:36:21,970
of terror wherever it happens We will
not go away
977
01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:28,590
We will not be quiet We will not be
forgotten
978
01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:44,310
Let's go into this.
979
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,900
I do not accept either the broad thrust
or most of the detail of the Ombudsman's
980
01:37:23,900 --> 01:37:24,900
criticism.
981
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:31,460
And any impartial or objective
assessment cannot fail to recognize the
982
01:37:31,460 --> 01:37:35,580
high quality of leadership that I have
given to the Oman District.
983
01:38:52,270 --> 01:38:55,210
You can have my heart,
984
01:38:56,450 --> 01:39:00,050
but it isn't new.
985
01:39:02,650 --> 01:39:09,410
It's been used and broken, and only
comes in blue.
986
01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:17,510
It's been down a long road,
987
01:39:18,690 --> 01:39:20,410
and they've got to...
988
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:40,760
If you don't mind
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