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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,400 NARRATOR: THe murder, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,200 We were in Sandy's before he got killed . 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,000 I left around 2? Rickey stayed until, what? 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,800 -Four maybe? MICHAELSON : I came back. . . 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,200 . . .to see how things went. Fortas was dead . 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,000 NARRATOR: Key evidence, 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 We recovered the murder weapon, and it's registered to you. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,800 MAN IOVER TV] : Police arrested basketball great, , , 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 -, , ,Rickey Latrell, -Get me out of here. 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,200 He's prepared to put up his assets, including his mother's home. 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Bail is set at $ 1 0 million. 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,800 NARRATOR: THe conflii , 13 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,400 WYLER: Something's bothering you. -You' re letting Chris call the shots. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,600 He doesn't know what he's doing . 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 I can't try this case and watch my back. . . 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,400 -. . .at the same time. -Jimmy came to me, okay? 17 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,400 You waited until we went to court to tell me! I can't trust you! 18 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 I' m not auditioning for the part of your pal ! 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,800 NARRATOR: THe autograph seeker, 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,600 APPLETON : What are you doing? 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,600 You' re looking for anything with Rickey Latrell's name on it. 22 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,400 -No, that's not the case. -Let's go, Joel . 23 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,200 NARRATOR: THe rival agent, 24 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,200 LATRELL: Ken's been trying to represent me since college. 25 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Some guys never learn to take no for an answer. 26 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,400 -And you' re one of them . -I am . 27 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,200 I know Hicks has been all over you guys. 28 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,400 -So have a million other people. -I've been with this guy a long time. 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,800 I don't want to lose him to Ken Hicks. 30 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,600 This is for you. 31 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Ken Hicks gave me an envelope this morning, okay? 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 lt had a list of prosecution witnesses and phone numbers. . . 33 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,400 . . .of people who have damaging information about them . 34 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:27,000 I think we have to take a fresh look at Michaelson. 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,800 DOCKNOVICH : Okay, let's get started . 36 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,800 -How long did you work for Lee, Larry? LARRY : Year and a half. 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,400 -Why did you leave? LARRY : He fired me. 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Why was that? 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,200 LARRY : Because I wouldn't play fast and loose with other people's money. 40 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Would Lee Michaelson play fast and loose with money? 41 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,800 Oh, yeah. 42 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 DOCKNOVICH : How'd he do that? -Commingled funds. 43 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Helped himseIf to short-term loans with a zero interest. 44 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,600 -He told you this? -He didn't have to tell me. 45 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,400 I was working in his office. 46 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,400 -What'd you do about it? -Hey. I' m 23 years old at the time. 47 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,200 I' m not looking to take anybody on. 48 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 I told you we' re gonna need some tangible evidence. 49 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,200 I can get tangible evidence. There are deposit slips. . . 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 . . .canceled checks. It's all there. 51 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Why didn't you come forward on your own? 52 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Wish I had a good answer, Chris. What it comes down to. . . 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,800 . . .is I'd like to stay in the sports management industry. . . 54 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,200 . . .and I've been fearful of consequences. 55 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,600 -So, what gives you the nerve now? LARRY : I don't know . 56 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Maybe the prospect of Rickey going to prison while scumbag Lee goes free. . . 57 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,800 . . .was just a little too tough to live with. 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,600 IWYLER SIGHS] 59 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Thanks for coming in, Larry. 60 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,200 -I should wait to hear from you? WYLER: Right. 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:39,600 SZYMANSKl : You know your way out? -Yeah, I' m good . 62 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,800 -This is it? -Obviously we need the documentation. 63 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,200 -We know he worked for Michaelson. -Yeah. 64 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,800 -And we know he was fired . WYLER: Look, let's not kid ourselves. 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,600 This is nothing . 66 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,600 We could go into court and string together a bunch of accusations. . . 67 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,600 . . .that will ruin Lee Michaelson's reputation. 68 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,000 When it's time to offer up proof, we can duck out. 69 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Or we can wait and come up with some real proof. 70 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,400 There's one problem . While we look for proof. . . 71 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,400 . . .the prosecution makes a case and we miss a golden opportunity. . . 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,200 . . .to create reasonable doubt. 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 -Look for other opportunities. -This fell in our lap. 74 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,200 -That makes it easy, not right. -I don't think we' re looking to do it. . . 75 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,400 . . . because it's easy, okay? The fact is it's effective. 76 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,800 It's only effective if you can prove the allegations. 77 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,800 DOCKNOVICH : Meantime, witnesses put our guy at the scene. . . 78 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,200 . . .with motive, opportunity and inclination. 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 As far as I' m concerned, waiting for proof's a luxury we can't afford . 80 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,000 It is not a luxury. 81 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,600 If we go to court with charges we can't prove, we'll just hurt ourselves. 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,000 We'll be worse off than if we'd never gone with them . 83 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 You are the general manager of the basketball team . . . 84 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,520 -. . .the Las Vegas Storm, is that right? HASSICK: Yes, sir. 85 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,120 Would you be so kind as to explain, for those of us who don't know . . . 86 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:14,920 . . .what the job of a general manager is? 87 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,920 HASSICK: Basically, a general manager is a CEO. 88 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,720 You oversee trades, you' re in charge of the hiring and the firing of players. 89 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,720 You look for ways to maximize income and somewhere in there. . . 90 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,520 . . .try to win a few basketball games. 91 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Were you in negotiations with the defendant. . . 92 00:00:29,920 --> 00:05:48,280 -. . .when Sandy Fortas was murdered? -Yes. 93 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,880 -How much were you offering him? -$50 million over seven years. 94 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,080 -How much was he asking for? -$94 million over the same period . 95 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,280 -So you were $44 million apart. -That's right. 96 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:01,480 How high were you willing to go? 97 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 The final decision on that was up to Sandy Fortas. 98 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,680 All I did was to advise. 99 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,080 How high did you advise Sandy Fortas to go? 100 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,480 I advised him to stay right where he was. 101 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,480 Rickey Latrell's not Michael Jordan or Shaquille O' Neal . . . 102 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,280 . . .when it comes to filling seats or TV ratings. 103 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,080 IINDISTINCT WHISPERING] 104 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,480 His ability as a point guard, he's not Penny Hardaway. . . 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,280 . . .and he's not Gary Payton. 106 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,680 As good a season as Rickey had last year. . . 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,680 . . . I felt he could be replaced and I was fully prepared to do so. 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Were you aware of whether or not Sandy Fortas was prepared to do so? 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Sandy could be a soft touch, very sentimental . . . 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,680 . . . but when it came to doing business, he could say no to anybody. 111 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Based on the conversations I had with him the morning of the day he died . . . 112 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,880 . . . he was absolutely prepared to let Rickey walk. 113 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,280 No further questions, Your Honor. 114 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:50,080 IWHISPERING] 115 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,680 What kind of relationship did you have with Mr. Latrell, Mr. Hassick? 116 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,680 I always thought Rickey and l had a pretty good relationship. 117 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Then why was he negotiating with Sandy Fortas? 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,080 You've testified that that was your job, did you not? 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Lee Michaelson's why. 120 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 What was it about Mr. Michaelson. . . 121 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 -. . .that you had a problem with? -Everything about him . 122 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,080 His demands were unreasonable, he lied repeatedly. . . 123 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,280 . . . he turned every negotiation into a war. And not just with Rickey, either. 124 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,080 This is with all his players. I don't know a general manager that can stand him . 125 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,480 Did your feelings regarding Mr. Michaelson affect. . . 126 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,080 . . .your feelings regarding Rickey Latrell? 127 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,880 HASSICK: No. 128 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Well, then I' m confused about something . 129 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,280 You said on direct examination, and I quote: 130 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,880 " In terms of his ability as a point guard, he's not Penny Hardaway. . . 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,680 . . . he's not Gary Payton. " 132 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,280 At the beginning of last season, Mr. Hassick, you told Sports Illustrated. . . 133 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,880 . . . Rickey was the best point guard in the league. Were you misquoted? 134 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,080 I might have been engaging in a little preseason hyperbole. 135 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,080 DOCKNOVICH : Was his shooting this season a disappointment? 136 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,880 -No. -His number of assists? 137 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 I can't complain about his performance on the court. 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,280 But something happened to change your attitude towards him . . . 139 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,880 . . .and what I wonder is whether that something is Lee Michaelson. 140 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,280 I think Rickey should've reined him in more. 141 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,880 ls that what players commonly do with their agents? " Rein them in" ? 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 I don't know about players in general . I know that Rickey Latrell . . . 143 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,280 . . .should have shown Mr. Fortas the respect. 144 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,480 You think he should be punished for not showing him that respect, don't you? 145 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 What I think he should be punished for is murder. 146 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,480 Next to that, the rest of it doesn't much matter. 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,880 SCOTTO: How do you know the defendant, Mr. Parnell? 148 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,680 I was his teammate in Las Vegas. 149 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,680 Would you describe the nature of your relationship? 150 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:35,680 When Rickey first came to the NBA, he was 1 9 years old . 151 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,080 I' m 1 0 years older. I'd been in the league a while. 152 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Guess you could say I looked out for him a bit. 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Our wives became friends, we hung out. 154 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,680 For a while, everything was fine. 155 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:47,680 We had a head coach named Al O' Donnell . Sixty years old . 156 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,680 He'd been head coach ever since there was a team in Vegas. 157 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,080 Rickey and he had some disagreements. 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Al used a set offense. Rickey liked to run. 159 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,680 Al was strict about practices. Rickey didn't like to be pushed . 160 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:03,880 One day Al accused him of dogging it. Rickey mouthed off and got sent home. 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,080 The next day Al was gone. 162 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Did the defendant offer up any explanation as to what happened? 163 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,080 Objection. Calls for hearsay. 164 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Goes to the defendant's state of mind . 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Overruled . The witness may answer. 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,680 PARNELL: He said he told Sandy he couldn't play for Al . 167 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:24,280 He said when push came to shove, Sandy always gave him what he wanted . 168 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,880 SCOTTO: No further questions. 169 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Who replaced Al O' Donnell as head coach, Mr. Parnell? 170 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Phil Yaccavone. 171 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:36,880 You were dropped from the squad under Coach Yaccavone, is that right? 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,680 -Yeah. -Were a lot of other teams. . . 173 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:41,080 . . .vying for your services? 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,880 -No. -Given that you were cut loose. . . 175 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,480 . . .when he was fired, is it fair to say you were being protected . . . 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,480 -. . . by Coach O' Donnell? -I never looked at it that way. 177 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,080 ls it also fair to say that since you blame Rickey for his firing . . . 178 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,680 . . .that your testifying here today constitutes payback time? 179 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:57,880 No, sir. 180 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,080 -I' m not looking for a payback. -Okay. 181 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,080 GWEN : Do you guys need anything else? 182 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,480 -No, we' re fine. -Then I' m going home. 183 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:25,480 -Have a good night. -Thanks. 184 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,480 -What's going on, Jimmy? -Hey, Lee. 185 00:05:28,480 --> 00:09:54,200 lmagine my surprise when three different clients called me today. . . 186 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,400 . . .and asked me if I'd ever stolen any money from them . 187 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,800 We heard some rumors we were just checking out. 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,600 MICHAELSON : Who did you hear rumors from? 189 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Larry Silvestri . 190 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Oh, Larry Silvestri . Well, there's someone you can trust. 191 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,200 I fired him for dealing coke out of the office. 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 He says he wouldn't steal for you. 193 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,400 I don't believe this. What's some drug dealer. . . 194 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,400 -. . . have to do with Rickey standing trial? -Good question. 195 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,400 MICHAELSON : You think I got jammed up with Sandy and had to kill him? 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,200 It's a theory. Yeah. 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Except that it has no basis in reality. I have never stolen money from a client. 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,400 -And I didn't kill Sandy Fortas. -Are we to take your word? 199 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,800 MICHAELSON : Over Larry Silvestri's? Yeah. 200 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,600 You' re supposed to take my word over his. 201 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,000 LATRELL: When I' m looking at spending my life in prison. . . 202 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,200 -. . .don't tell me whose word to take. WYLER: Let us sort this out. 203 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 I told you this was gonna happen. 204 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,400 -I' m sorry, Lee. MICHAELSON : Okay. . . 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,800 . . . how do I prove to you that I' m not the guy? 206 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Tell me. Help me. 207 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,000 WYLER: You have to let us do our work. 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Nobody's gonna make accusations against you that can't be proved . 209 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 But you have to let us do our work. 210 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,000 I think it's probably best for me if I got someone else to be my agent for now . 211 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:36,200 Don't do this to me, Rickey. 212 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,400 GWEN : What are you doing? 213 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,600 ICLEARS THROAT] 214 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,600 You see my name on my shirt today, cookie? I' m out of uniform . 215 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,000 I' m here as a private individual to see Jimmy Wyler. 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 And for your information, he wants to see me. 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,400 He doesn't want to see you any more than I do. 218 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,200 Oh, well, you' re very wrong . 219 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,200 And you' re about to get yourself into a world of trouble. 220 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,000 -What can I do for you? -I come with a. . . 221 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,600 . . . potential development in the Latrell case, and you wanna hear about it. 222 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Uh-huh. 223 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,800 It's a straightforward business proposition. 224 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Convince Rickey Latrell to help me supply the collectibles market. . . 225 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,400 . . .and cut yourseIf in for 1 5 percent of the gross. 226 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,200 -What? -High-end collectibles. 227 00:12:18,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Correspondence between Rickey Latrell and Sandy Fortas. Uniforms. 228 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,560 Anything from the day of the murder, a signed matchbook from the jet. . . 229 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,560 . . .the clothes he wore that day, the uniform he wore-- 230 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,960 -What's your name? -Joel Mytelka. 231 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,960 -Still work for the building management? -Yes, I do. 232 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Good, then I'll make this straightforward . 233 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,760 I am absolutely not interested . . . 234 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,160 . . .in getting into any business arrangement with you. 235 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,160 I don't wanna broker any deals, take any percentages. 236 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,560 I want nothing to do with it or you. 237 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Oh. 238 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,760 ls it me or getting into collectibles that's a turnoff? 239 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,160 -What difference does it make? -With collectibles. . . 240 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,960 . . . I'd tell you about investment. 241 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,960 If it's me, I'd tell you a little bit about myself-- 242 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Mr. Mytelka, please don't do either of those things. 243 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,760 -Can I call you in a month's time? -No. 244 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 -Can I send you a catalog? -No. 245 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Were you present, Mr. Sweeney, at an establishment known as Satch's. . . 246 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,360 . . .in the city of Boston on March 1 0th, 1 995? 247 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Yes, I was. 248 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,160 -Was the defendant also present? -He was. 249 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,160 -Did you have occasion to speak to him? -Yes, I did . 250 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,960 What was the nature of that exchange? 251 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,160 lt starts out I' m standing at the bar waiting to order a drink. 252 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,960 This girl's standing next to me. 253 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,960 I strike up a conversation, you know, just to pass the time. . . 254 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,560 . . . nothing suggestive, nothing heavy, just bip-bap conversation. 255 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:35,360 At that point, Mr. Latrell approached me. 256 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Would you describe Mr. Latrell at that moment? 257 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,760 He was very angry. Thought I was hitting on the young lady. 258 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,360 -Objection. Speculative. -Sustained . 259 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Describe what happened next. 260 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,760 SWEENEY : He pushed me, I pushed him back. He hit me, and I hit him back. 261 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,160 All of a sudden, he's got a gun in his hand . 262 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,360 He said, and I quote. . . 263 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 . . . he was gonna "shoot my white ass dead then and there. " 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,960 SCOTTO: Did you press weapons charges? -I didn't. By the time cops came. . . 265 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:01,760 -. . . he ditched the gun. DOCKNOVICH : Objection. 266 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speculation on the part of the witness. Ask that it be stricken. 267 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:10,160 -So stricken. -No further questions, Your Honor. 268 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Mr. Docknovich? 269 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:24,560 Your Honor, Mr. Mosely will be conducting cross-examination. 270 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,560 -You' re a Celtic fan, Mr. Sweeney? -Born and bred . 271 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:31,160 Okay. On March 1 0th, 1 995, Rickey Latrell was in Boston. . . 272 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,560 -. . .to play the Celtics, right? -Right. 273 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,960 -Did you go to that game? -No. 274 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,760 -How come? -Tickets are out of my price range. 275 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Do you think it's possible that if teams weren't paying exorbitant salaries. . . 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 -. . .ticket prices would be lower? -Sure, it's possible. 277 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,360 But you don't begrudge Rickey Latrell the money he makes, do you? 278 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,960 This is America, right? He's entitled to whatever he can get. 279 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,760 So prior to the night in question, you had . . . 280 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,360 . . .absolutely nothing whatsoever against Rickey Latrell? 281 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,360 -That's right. -Not his salary, not his fame. . . 282 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,560 . . . not the fact that he played basketball for a living and certainly not his race. 283 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,960 That's right. Certainly not his race. 284 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,360 MOSELY : Have you lived in Southie all your life? 285 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,960 SWEENEY : Yes, I have. 286 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Were you going to South Boston public schools. . . 287 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,560 -. . .during the school bus boycott of ' 74? -Yes, I was. 288 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:19,760 Were you kept home from school? 289 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Your Honor, I' m gonna object to this line of questioning . 290 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,760 I' m entitled to examine the witness's upbringing . . . 291 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,760 . . . relative to the issue of racial prejudice. 292 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,160 BORNSTEIN : I'll allow it. 293 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,960 You' re gonna examine my upbringing? 294 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Do you have a problem, Mr. Sweeney? 295 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,160 You' re gonna pass judgment on my mother? 296 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,360 May she rest in peace. 297 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Absolutely, I got a problem with that. 298 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Was your mother one of those screaming, "Go back to Roxbury" . . . 299 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 . . .at black schoolchildren as they got off the buses? 300 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,760 My mother wasn't as well-educated as you. 301 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,760 She just didn't see the value of putting her children on a bus. . . 302 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,760 . . .to Roxbury at 6:00 every morning . 303 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,360 What did your mother tell you about those black children from Roxbury? 304 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,160 That the niggers had to be stop-- 305 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,960 -Objection. -Mr. Mosely. 306 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 One more word about my mother, I' m coming out of this box. 307 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,160 BORNSTEIN : Mr. Sweeney. -You hear me?! 308 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,560 BORNSTEIN : Bailiffs, come to the front. 309 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,960 You are not permitted to threaten anyone with violence. . . 310 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,160 . . .in my courtroom . If you do so again, I will hold you in contempt of court. . . 311 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,760 . . .and have my bailiff take you into custody. 312 00:15:19,760 --> 00:16:30,680 I have no further questions for this witness. 313 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,680 CLERK: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth. . . 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,080 -. . .and nothing but the truth? -I do. 315 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,080 CLERK: State your name, please. -Deborah Cummings. 316 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Be seated . 317 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Ms. Cummings, do you know the defendant? 318 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,280 -Yes, I do. -Would you describe your relationship? 319 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,280 When Rickey would come to Miami, he'd call me up, we'd go out. 320 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,680 WEIKOPF: Was it a sexual relationship? -Yes. 321 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,280 -Was it a monogamous relationship? -No, it was not. 322 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,880 -So you would see other people? -Of course I would . 323 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Did that fact come to the defendant's attention? 324 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,480 -lt did because he had me followed . -Objection. lrrelevant. 325 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,880 We believe that the defendant's volatility. . . 326 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,880 . . .and propensity for violence is directly relevant. 327 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,480 We ask the court to allow sufficient leeway to establish this volatility. 328 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,080 I'll give you one incident's worth of leeway, Ms. Weikopf. 329 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,880 Thank you, Your Honor. Ms. Cummings. . . 330 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,480 . . .what did the defendant do when he found out? 331 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,280 He went nuts. 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,680 Could you be more specific? 333 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,680 He convinced me to meet him in a private airport lounge. . . 334 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,480 . . . he followed me to the restroom . . . 335 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,080 . . . pounded my head against a wall and forced himseIf on me orally. 336 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,880 Would you like me to be more specific? 337 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,880 -I object to this, Your Honor. BORNSTEIN : Overruled . 338 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,480 WEIKOPF: Ms. Cummings, why did you never press charges? 339 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,680 I didn't want to be known as the girl who charged Rickey Latrell with rape. 340 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 And yet you' re here today. Why? 341 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,080 When I heard he was charged with murder, I felt an obligation. . . 342 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:03,680 -. . .to tell what I know about him . -No further questions. 343 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,680 -What do you do for a living? -I' m a dancer. 344 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,680 -A ballet dancer? -I' m a stripper. 345 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Do you think the publicity you' re receiving here today. . . 346 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,480 -. . .will be of any use to you? -I have no idea. 347 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,880 -That's not why I' m here. -That's right. 348 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,280 You' re here because you felt an obligation. . . 349 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,080 -. . .to come forward . -That's right. 350 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Would you have felt that obligation less acutely if Rickey had bought you. . . 351 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,680 -. . .the condo you asked for? -Objection. 352 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,680 Sustained . No foundation, Mr. Docknovich. 353 00:18:30,680 --> 00:20:52,800 DOCKNOVICH : Are you acquainted with Arnold Rosenstein? 354 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,200 -Yes. -ls Arnold currently your boyfriend? 355 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,000 -Yes. -Are you aware. . . 356 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,800 . . .that Rosenstein was arrested . . . 357 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,000 . . .in March of 1 996 and charged with eight separate counts of fraud . . . 358 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,200 -. . .for cloning phone numbers? -Yes, I' m aware of that. 359 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 DOCKNOVICH : Are you aware those charges were reduced . . . 360 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 . . .to a single count of theft for which Mr. Rosenstein. . . 361 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,400 -. . . received a suspended sentence? -Yeah. So what? 362 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Are you offended by that? There's murderers walking around free. 363 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Ask that the witness confine her answers to the questions asked her. 364 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400 My deepest apologies. 365 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Does it seem strange that the charges against Mr. Rosenstein were reduced . . . 366 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,600 . . .after you agreed to testify for the prosecution? 367 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,800 That has nothing to do with me. 368 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Tell us who the deputy DA was in charge of prosecuting Mr. Rosenstein. 369 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Ms. Weikopf was in charge. 370 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,600 DOCKNOVICH : Paige Weikopf? -Right. 371 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,200 The same Paige Weikopf currently serving as co-counsel in this case? 372 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 How many Paige Weikopfs are there? 373 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,800 GWEN : Ken Hicks is here to see you. WYLER: Have him come in. 374 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,600 How are you, Jimmy? 375 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:00,000 -I' m good, Ken. How are you? -Please? 376 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,400 First off, let me tell you that your lieutenants. . . 377 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,600 -. . .are acquitting themselves admirably. -Glad to hear it. 378 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Since you don't need me to keep you current. . . 379 00:19:08,400 --> 00:20:43,200 -. . .let me leap into the reason I' m here. -Please. 380 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,800 As of today, I' m Rickey Latrell's new agent. 381 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,200 What a surprise. 382 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,400 Given the circumstances, Jimmy, he very well couldn't stay with Lee. 383 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,800 He knows me, he trusts me. 384 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:02,400 His career is at a critical juncture and he needs me. 385 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,400 -And what do you want from me, Ken? -I want you to be for me. . . 386 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,800 . . . rather than against me, that's for starters. 387 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,200 I know Lee is your friend . 388 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,200 I want you to know I bear him no ill will whatsoever. 389 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 I have no stake in who serves as Rickey's agent. 390 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,200 -It's none of my business. -I respect that position. . . 391 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,000 -. . .and I appreciate it. -Good . What else? 392 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,200 Not to disparage his attorneys, but Rickey's greatest asset is Rickey. 393 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,000 I want to make use of that. 394 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 -Meaning what? -Meaning he makes himseIf visible. 395 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 That could mean a celebrity website on America Online. 396 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 lt could mean THe Rosie O 'Donnell Show. 397 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,800 What I've scheduled for tomorrow . . . 398 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800 . . .is a speaking engagement at Rickey's old junior high school . 399 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,800 -What is he gonna talk about? -His faith in God . 400 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200 The difficulty of growing up poor and African-American. 401 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 His championship years at Syracuse. 402 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,000 I think it's a bad idea. 403 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,400 I told Carla that and I' m telling you that. 404 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,800 There's very little to gain and everything to lose. 405 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,400 Assume, for the sake of argument, that he's intent on doing it. 406 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,400 If he's intent on doing it. . . 407 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,000 . . . I won't resign as his counsel . 408 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,800 But I will insist that an attorney from the firm is present at whatever he does. 409 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,400 It's not a problem . 410 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,600 How much are you paying Silvestri? 411 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,400 -Excuse me? -The junior G-man. . . 412 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:31,800 . . .that worked for Michaelson. How much are you paying him? 413 00:22:31,800 --> 00:24:36,320 lt violates the basic order of the universe for a black man to make money. . . 414 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720 . . .off of a black man, doesn't it? 415 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,720 If you want to feed off Rickey Latrell, feed off him . 416 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,320 But spare me the pan-Africanism speech. 417 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,720 When this trial is over, my friend . . . 418 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,520 . . .and you' re opining about the criminal justice system on Larry King Live. . . 419 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,120 . . .when a line forms at the rear of your reception area. . . 420 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,520 . . .full of rich criminals looking to get off. . . 421 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520 . . .when you wake up one day and you realize how easy it is. . . 422 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,720 . . .to get used to a seven-figure income. . . 423 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,920 . . .that's when you can talk to me about "feeding off Rickey. " 424 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,120 ls there anything else we need to cover today? 425 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,520 Just this. 426 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Rickey needs for us to get along, Jimmy. 427 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,720 SCOTTO: Mr. Battaglio, would you tell the court what you do for a living? 428 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,520 BATTAGLIO: I' m a bookie. -In that capacity. . . 429 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,320 . . . have you met the defendant? 430 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720 A mutual friend introduced us in his rookie year. 431 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,720 -Rickey was interested in betting football . -How did he do? 432 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,320 First year or so, pretty good . But he kept wanting more action. 433 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,320 He'd win 1 0 grand one week, bet 20 the next. lt caught up with him . 434 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 -In what way? -He started losing, bigtime. 435 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Super Bowl weekend, he tried to catch up by betting on Dallas. 436 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,320 -How much did he lose? -$200,000. 437 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,720 He didn't have that kind of money to lose. 438 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,920 What, if anything, did he do? 439 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,120 He offered to shave points on one of the games as a way of canceling his debt. 440 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,920 SCOTTO: Would you explain what that means? 441 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920 Most of the betting in basketball is done on the spread . 442 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,520 lt just doesn't matter who wins, it's how many points a team wins by. 443 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,120 Rickey Latrell is in a position to influence the outcome of the game. . . 444 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,520 . . . by scoring fewer points than he otherwise would . 445 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,920 SCOTTO: How did you respond to the defendant's offer? 446 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 BATTAGLIO: Told him I'd think about it. 447 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,120 -Did you think about it? -I did more than that. 448 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:24,320 I set up a second meeting, but this time I had a tape recorder in my briefcase. 449 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,320 I got him on tape offering to fix a game. 450 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,720 SCOTTO: Why did you want to do that? -Simple. 451 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,120 Sandy Fortas bet on the horses like there's no tomorrow . 452 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:33,920 When he won, he expected to be paid . 453 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,520 When he lost, suddenly his business took him out of town a lot. 454 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,720 Given Mr. Fortas' stake in keeping Rickey on a basketball court. . . 455 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720 . . .and out of jail, I looked at the tape. . . 456 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,720 . . .as a means to an end . Call it what you will . 457 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720 -Did you show the tape to Sandy Fortas? -Yes, I did . 458 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,720 -What did he do? -He took $600,000 out of a safe. . . 459 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 -. . .and bought it from me, right there. -In other words. . . 460 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720 . . . prior to his death, Sandy was in possession of a tape. . . 461 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,720 . . .that could have both destroyed Rickey Latrell's career. . . 462 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720 -. . .and put him in prison. -Yes, that's correct. 463 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:11,720 No further questions, Your Honor. 464 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Sir, this tape that you allege making, do you have a copy? 465 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Gave the only copy to Sandy. 466 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,120 If it was as incriminating as you say, why didn't you make another copy. . . 467 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,720 -. . .and use it to blackmail Mr. Latrell? -Because I' m not a blackmailer. 468 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,120 You've been convicted of bookmaking seven times. 469 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,120 That's right. That's because I' m a bookmaker. 470 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,920 It's my sole criminal enterprise. 471 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,720 IPEOPLE LAUGHING] 472 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720 This game, in which you allege Mr. Latrell shaved points. . . 473 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,720 -. . . how many points did he score? -Twenty-five, maybe. 474 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,520 DOCKNOVICH : What was his prior scoring average? 475 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,720 In the same neighborhood . 476 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320 -He had a pretty typical night, didn't he? -Except he missed two lay-ups. . . 477 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,120 . . .that would've beat the spread . 478 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,520 -Ever seen Michael Jordan play ball? -Of course. 479 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,320 -Ever see him miss a lay-up? -Sure. 480 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,320 ls it your testimony that Michael Jordan is shaving points? 481 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,120 -Absolutely not. -Oh, by the way. . . 482 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,720 . . .were you promised leniency for any future bookmaking arrests. . . 483 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,520 . . .in return for testifying today? 484 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,720 I' m testifying today so that I might be of service. Period . 485 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720 You are quite an outstanding citizen, sir. 486 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,120 I have no further questions for you. 487 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,120 You may step down, Mr. Battaglio. 488 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,520 Mr. Scotto, call your next witness. 489 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Uh. . . . 490 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,120 I need to see counsel in my chambers. 491 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,120 BORNSTEIN : It's been brought to my attention that a juror. . . 492 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:29,120 . . . may have been negotiating the sale of certain trial memorabilia. 493 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,120 Ms. Weikopf, you' re prepared to substantiate this? 494 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:35,720 Yes, I am, Your Honor. 495 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,120 Excuse me, Your Honor. 496 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,520 On what basis was this tape made? 497 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520 On what basis were jurors placed under surveillance? 498 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 In a high-profile case, jurors are subject to pressures. . . 499 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,120 . . .that might not otherwise be present. To assure the integrity. . . 500 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:53,720 . . .of the jury system, we had every right to use law enforcement personnel . . . 501 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,720 . . .to observe potentially illegal activities. 502 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Play the tape, Ms. Weikopf. 503 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,120 MYTELKA IOVER RECORDER] : Let's take a moment to give thanks, , , 504 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,520 , , , that we live in a country where this is possible, 505 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,520 OTWELL: I'm not supposed to talk to anybody about the case, 506 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 MYTELKA: I'm not anybody, 507 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,320 I'm a licensed dealer in celebrity collectibles, And second, , , 508 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,120 , , ,I'm not talking to you about the case, 509 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,120 I'm talking about the phenomenon of the case, 510 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,520 I'm talking to you about the historical record of the case, 511 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,920 I'm also talking about a boatload of cash, 512 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,120 OTWELL: What do you want me to do? 513 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,520 BORNSTEIN : The sheriff's department has been. . . 514 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,920 . . .conducting surveillance on you, Mr. Otwell . 515 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,920 We've learned that you've been negotiating with an individual . . . 516 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,320 . . . by the name of Joel Mytelka for the purpose of selling off trial memorabilia. 517 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320 -ls that true? -Wait a minute. He came to me. 518 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,120 I didn't go looking for him . 519 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:45,320 -And what was it he was interested in? -Primarily the verdict slip. 520 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320 He said if I could get it for him, it'd be worth $ 1 0,000. 521 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Before you say anything else, we have a tape recording of you agreeing to do so. 522 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,920 BORNSTEIN : Mr. Otwell? 523 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,720 OTWELL: I meant no disrespect to the court. 524 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,120 I thought the trial would be over by that point. 525 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,120 I was entitled to take advantage of the opportunity. 526 00:24:02,120 --> 00:29:50,240 We have an obvious problem . 527 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Your Honor, it seems to me that it could be corrected . . . 528 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,040 . . .with an admonition from the court. 529 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,640 No. He was admonished before he was sworn in, he still entered . . . 530 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,240 . . .into the agreement. The people move that Mr. Otwell be replaced . 531 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240 -Motion granted . -You' re kicking me off the jury? 532 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640 BORNSTEIN : You sought to have financial interest. . . 533 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440 . . .in the outcome of the trial, Mr. Otwell . 534 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Unlike them, who are only here out of a sense of civic responsibility. 535 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,640 SCOTTO: Were you acquainted with Sandy Fortas, Ms. Phillips? 536 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,840 PHILLIPS: Yes. 537 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,040 -Describe for us how you knew him . -I was a cheerleader for his team . 538 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,440 -Did you know the defendant's wife? -Yes. 539 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,640 -Would you tell us how you knew her? -She was a cheerleader same time I was. 540 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Would you characterize your relationship with her? 541 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,440 She knew everything that was going on in my life. . . 542 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 . . .and I assumed I knew everything about hers. 543 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Somewhere along the way, did Carla leave the cheerleading squad? 544 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,640 Yes. 545 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,640 Would you tell us at what point that was? 546 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,640 The point at which she started sleeping with Sandy Fortas. 547 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,840 ICHATTER] 548 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,640 BORNSTEIN : Order. -Objection. 549 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,440 -No foundation. BORNSTEIN : Sustained . 550 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 SCOTTO: On what do you base your statement that Carla and Sandy Fortas. . . 551 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,640 . . .were sleeping together? 552 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,240 PHILLIPS: As soon as Carla joined the squad, Sandy was checking her out. 553 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640 One day I saw her leaving the arena with him . 554 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640 I asked what was going on and she told me, " Nothing . " 555 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Within a week, she had a job in the front office. 556 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 She didn't tell me that nothing was going on after that. 557 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,240 But she left no doubt as to the fact that she and Sandy Fortas were. . . 558 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,240 -. . .carrying on a sexual relationship. DOCKNOVICH : Objection. 559 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,840 -Leading the witness. -I'll allow it. 560 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840 SCOTTO: Ms. Phillips? 561 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,040 I knew all about it. 562 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,640 Were you aware of when Carla began seeing the defendant? 563 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,040 -Yes, I was. -To the best of your knowledge. . . 564 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,640 . . .what did that do to Carla's relationship with Sandy Fortas? 565 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040 PHILLIPS: To the best of my knowledge, it ended it. 566 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,440 Rickey was very possessive. 567 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840 And Sandy moved on to another black girl . 568 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,440 -lt also ended our relationship. SCOTTO: Why was that? 569 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,240 I knew too much. 570 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,640 No further questions, Your Honor. 571 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,640 DOCKNOVICH : You were let go as a cheerleader last year. . . 572 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040 -. . .were you not? -Yes. 573 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040 -What reason was given? -I turned 30. 574 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040 And now you' re an assistant buyer at Neiman-Marcus? 575 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,840 -Right. -And you' re not bitter? 576 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840 You don't resent the fact that Carla Latrell went from . . . 577 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,440 . . . being a cheerleader to being a front-office executive. . . 578 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,240 . . .to being the wife of a basketball star? 579 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,240 If I slept with whatever man could do me any good . . . 580 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,040 . . . I could have what Carla has too. 581 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640 lnstead, I have my values, I have my character. 582 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440 I have my self-respect. 583 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440 And so you don't view the comings and goings of Carla and Rickey. . . 584 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,040 . . .and Sandy Fortas from a perspective of envy or bitterness? 585 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,640 No, I do not. I envy Carla nothing . 586 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640 -Yes, that's quite apparent. -Objection, Your Honor. 587 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,640 DOCKNOVICH : I have no further questions. 588 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:48,440 We need to step in here for a moment. 589 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,040 When you are on trial for murder, you wanna do everything you can. . . 590 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,640 . . .to prevent your lawyers from being surprised in court. 591 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,440 We did not know that was going to come out. 592 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Tonight we have to talk about what Carla is gonna say. . . 593 00:28:05,320 --> 00:31:44,200 LATRELL: I got lucky. God granted me the athletic talent. . . 594 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600 . . .to play basketball on a professional level . 595 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000 I received a lot of help to get through school . 596 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,800 That means I make a lot of money right now . 597 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200 But that does not mean that I' m Jesus Christ. 598 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,800 That does not mean you should line up and do whatever I tell you to do. 599 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800 But I've been alive about 1 0 years longer than most of you. 600 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,200 There are some things I've learned . Number one. . . 601 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,000 . . .each of you has the power to make a positive contribution in this world . 602 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,200 Number two, there's no one so strong that drugs cannot destroy them . 603 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Number three, it's a big, complicated world out here. 604 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,200 The more education you have, the better equipped you are for it. 605 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Now, I've been blessed with great teachers in my life. 606 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200 My grandmother. My coach, Al Vitello. 607 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200 My friend Sandy Fortas, may they all rest in peace. 608 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,000 Look to the teachers in your lives. 609 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Learn from them . Honor them . Respect them . 610 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,800 Because even when they' re gone, even when they go and die on you. . . 611 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 . . .and one day they all will . . . 612 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600 . . .they'll always live on inside you. 613 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,600 And you'll be grateful that they' re there. 614 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 -Yeah? -What's gonna happen to you? 615 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,200 I don't know . All I can say is that... 616 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200 . . . I have faith in the American justice system . 617 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,400 And I' m looking forward to taking the witness stand and telling my story. 618 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,800 I' m looking forward to looking people in the eye. . . 619 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,400 . . .and telling them exactly who I am . 620 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:16,600 That, and my faith in God, will get me through this. 621 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,600 SCOTTO: Were you ever romantically involved with Sandy Fortas, Ms. Latrell? 622 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,400 CARLA: Yes, I was. 623 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,600 -Would you tell us when that was? -I' m not sure of the exact dates. 624 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000 I do know whenever it was, it was before I met Rickey. 625 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Was the defendant aware of your romantic involvement? 626 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800 I told him before we got married . 627 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800 And I've been completely faithful to him since. 628 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,800 SCOTTO: So when Rickey met with Sandy Fortas on the day of the murder. . . 629 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,000 . . . he was aware of the fact that you had had that affair? 630 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 -Yes. -ls it your testimony that your husband . . . 631 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,600 . . .was not jealous over your previous involvement with Sandy Fortas? 632 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000 I've never given my husband any reason to be jealous. 633 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,400 That's not what I asked, ma'am . 634 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,200 He wasn't jealous of anyone. Least of all, Sandy Fortas. 635 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,000 SCOTTO: Nothing further, Your Honor. 636 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Did you and your husband ever socialize with Sandy Fortas and his wife? 637 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Yes, on many occasions. 638 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,800 -Ever have them over to your house? -Yes. 639 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800 -They ever have you over to their house? -Yes, they did . 640 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,200 On these occasions, was your husband upset. . . 641 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,800 . . .that you and Mr. Fortas had previously been romantically involved? 642 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800 If he was, I didn't know about it. 643 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800 And I don't think that's possible. 644 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,600 I know my husband very well . 645 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000 Your husband was unfaithful . You didn't know about that. 646 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,600 My husband was a professional basketball player on the road . 647 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Yes, he tried to conceal some things from me. 648 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,200 But in the end, he couldn't do it. 649 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,600 He swore to me that he would never be unfaithful again. 650 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000 And I do believe he's been true to that. 651 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 DOCKNOVICH : Did it ever occur to you to exact revenge? 652 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400 No. 653 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800 My feeling is you either make your marriage work. . . 654 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800 . . .or you make other arrangements. 655 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,400 I'd never put our children through the pain of living in a household . . . 656 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,800 . . .where people were exacting revenge. 657 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,800 DOCKNOVICH : Carla, to the best of your knowledge, did your husband trust you? 658 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Yes, sir. I've never given him any reason not to. 659 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,600 I have no further questions. 660 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,800 Re-direct, Your Honor. 661 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Ms. Latrell, you said that your husband wasn't upset. 662 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,000 You said that he trusted you. 663 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,600 But isn't it human nature, given that Rickey got busted himself. . . 664 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,200 . . .for being unfaithful, that even if he was upset, even if he didn't trust you. . . 665 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200 . . . he would've kept those feelings to himself? 666 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000 I would've known about it. 667 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000 SCOTTO: I submit this police report as people's Exhibit Number 1 9. 668 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:15,400 IINDISTINCT WHISPERING] 669 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,800 -So ordered . SCOTTO: One day. 670 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,200 Just one day before the murder of Sandy Fortas. . . 671 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200 . . .the Las Vegas Police Department responded to a report. . . 672 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,200 . . .of violence at your home, did they not? 673 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,000 An obnoxious neighbor made that report. There was no violence of any kind . 674 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,400 Rickey and I were having an argument. 675 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,800 And what was the argument about? 676 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400 He was late picking up our daughter from preschool . 677 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,800 That's all it was about. That's it. 678 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,400 This would have been in no way related to Sandy Fortas? 679 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,800 No. lt would not have been. 680 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,000 There's no question but that the jury wants to hear. . . 681 00:31:43,000 --> 00:36:47,800 . . .a declaration of innocence from Rickey's own mouth. 682 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,000 -Yeah, but do they need to hear it? -I think they do. 683 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400 I agree. 684 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,200 If we don't put him on the stand . . . 685 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,200 . . .we'll never overcome the inference that he's got something to hide. 686 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,200 Given that the prosecution's case, while not airtight. . . 687 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,800 . . .is not something to be taken lightly, I think we gotta put him up there. 688 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,800 And who's gonna prep him? 689 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,800 You can do a better impersonation of a prosecutor than either of us. 690 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,400 Let's talk about your meeting with Sandy Fortas on the day he was killed . 691 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,200 lt started with you and Sandy. . . 692 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,400 -. . .and Lee, right? -Yes. 693 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400 Describe for us how that meeting started . 694 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000 Lee laid out what the team's revenue would be for the next five years. 695 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Plus he showed Sandy what the value of the championship would be. 696 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,600 And did Sandy accept these projections as being accurate? 697 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600 No. Sandy didn't like anybody telling him his business. 698 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Lee told him he didn't know anything about basketball and he was too cheap. . . 699 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,000 . . .to build a championship team . 700 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,600 I don't think Sandy was overly concerned about Lee's opinion of him . 701 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,400 -Don't joke. -I' m sorry. 702 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,800 -No, that's all right. APPLETON : Did there come a point. . . 703 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,400 . . .where it was suggested that the process might be facilitated . . . 704 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,800 -. . .if Lee Michaelson were to leave? -Yes, there did . 705 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200 -Who suggested that? -Sandy suggested it. 706 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000 -And you went along with it? -Yes. 707 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,800 -Why? -We weren't getting anywhere. . . 708 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,400 . . .the way things were going . And what did I have to lose? 709 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,800 Describe what happened when Lee Michaelson left. 710 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,800 Sandy started talking about things that were bothering him . 711 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,400 His son, health problems, money he was losing . 712 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,400 Then he asked me how much of the salary demands I was making . . . 713 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,800 . . .was coming from me versus Lee Michaelson. 714 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800 -How did you respond? -I told him Lee was my rep. . . 715 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200 . . .and he was doing what I wanted him to do. Sandy said . . . 716 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200 -. . .there was nothing left to talk about. -What happened then? 717 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,800 I left, I called Hilly, he picked me up and drove me to the airport. . . 718 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,000 . . .and I flew back to Vegas. 719 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 And Sandy Fortas was alive when you left him . 720 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,000 So help me God, Sandy Fortas was alive. 721 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,200 Okay, good . All right, there are a couple of points that we need to work on. . . 722 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,000 -. . . but basically that was it. -All right. 723 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,400 I' m gonna take you through the cross-examination. 724 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,800 Good . 725 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,000 Must be tough to trust people when everybody wants something from you. 726 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000 -Do you find that to be so? -There's people I can trust. . . 727 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000 -. . .and people I can't. -Which category did Sandy fall into? 728 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,200 I felt I could trust him . 729 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,200 You weren't happy with the deal he was offering you, though. 730 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600 No, I wasn't. 731 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,200 -Were you prepared to walk? -Absolutely. 732 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200 Given that Sandy Fortas was sort of a father figure to you. . . 733 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,800 -. . .wouldn't that have been difficult? -Difficult, but not impossible. 734 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,000 I mean, we' re all adults. 735 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,600 And when it comes to business, we take care of ourselves. 736 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,200 I want to talk to you about your wife. 737 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Now, is she someone. . . 738 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,400 -. . .that you could trust? -Yes. 739 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,800 Even though you sat in this room and heard . . . 740 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,200 -. . .that she'd had an affair with Sandy. -Right. 741 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,200 -That didn't bother you? -I won't say it made me happy. . . 742 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,000 . . . but that was before I met Carla. 743 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,800 No, it didn't particularly bother me. 744 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200 lt didn't prevent me from trusting her. 745 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,200 Let me ask you a question, Mr. Latrell, because we've all . . . 746 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,400 . . . been through moments like this. I mean, God knows I have. 747 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,800 Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night. . . 748 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200 . . .and look at your sleeping wife and wonder about her? 749 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200 -No, I don't. -When you looked at Sandy Fortas. . . 750 00:40:02,200 --> 00:43:21,160 . . .didn't you see someone who, at one point, used to be serviced . . . 751 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,960 -. . . by the mother of your children? -No, I did not. 752 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,360 Come on, Rickey. It's the oldest impulse in the world . 753 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,360 Are you gonna sit there and tell us that you didn't feel it? 754 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960 They say when you bury a three-pointer with one second left. . . 755 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,360 . . .that you have ice water running through your veins. 756 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,760 But not when it comes to your wife. 757 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,360 -I don't know what you' re talking about. -Let me spell it out for you. 758 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,360 Your father figure helped himseIf to your wife, didn't he? 759 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,760 That was before Carla and I got together. 760 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,360 That doesn't mean it didn't happen. lt also means there's a history. . . 761 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,560 . . .created between them . 762 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,760 That fat old man made a little boy out of you. 763 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,560 Wait, wait, come on, now . 764 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,160 -He's not allowed to ask questions like-- -Don't look at her. Look at me. 765 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,560 I don't believe that you are telling the truth. 766 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,560 I don't believe you' re able to keep your base instinct in check. . . 767 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,960 -. . .like you say you are. -My base instinct? 768 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560 Sandy Fortas insulted you by not paying you what you were worth. 769 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,760 He threatened to disclose the fact that you'd shaved points off a game. . . 770 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,760 . . .to pay a gambling debt, and he added your wife. . . 771 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,360 . . .to a list of attractive African-American women that he had slept with. 772 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,760 -Wait, Jimmy. -True or false? I' m not gonna wait. 773 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,960 And don't call me Jimmy. Once again. Sandy Fortas. 774 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960 He didn't pay you, he threatened you, he had sex with your wife. True? 775 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960 -True! -Put all those things together. 776 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,760 Didn't that make you wanna murder him? 777 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,160 Didn't it cause you to murder him? 778 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Yes! 779 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:52,360 What? 780 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,960 Carla went to L.A. to see Sandy. 781 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:02,560 When she came back, she had the tape of me agreeing to shave points. 782 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,560 I asked her why he gave it to her, and she hedged . 783 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,560 She told me one thing, then she told me another. 784 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,560 Then she broke down. 785 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,960 She told me the price of getting that tape. . . 786 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,760 . . .was agreeing to go to bed with him again. 787 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,360 Now my first reaction was to strike out at her. 788 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,360 That's when the cops came. 789 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,360 And after thinking about it for a while. . . 790 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,960 . . . I realized I wasn't angry at her. 791 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,560 I was angry at him . 792 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,960 lt wasn't enough to confront him . 793 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,560 lt wasn't enough to hurt him . 794 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,160 I had to kill him . 795 00:45:45,160 --> 00:46:34,360 And that's exactly what I did . I shot that sucker. 796 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,760 Subtitles by Riot71103

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