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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:31,910 It's. 2 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:35,180 Is it all right? 3 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:36,780 It's all right. 4 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:47,420 These are recollections of a dozen still photographs I made several years ago. 5 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:52,060 Does it sound alright? 6 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:54,060 Yes, yes, perfect. 7 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:54,860 It's fine. 8 00:00:54,860 --> 00:01:03,810 This is the first photograph ever made with the direct intention of making art. 9 00:01:03,810 --> 00:01:09,000 I had bought myself a camera for Christmas in 1958. 10 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:19,240 One day, early in January of 1959, I photographed several drawings by Carl Andrade, with whom I shared a cheap apartment on Mulberry Street. 11 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:26,120 One frame of thumb flat over to Carl that he said, or rather squat for a portrait. 12 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:35,080 He insisted that the photograph must incorporate a handsome small picture frame that had been given him a year or so before by a girl named North. 13 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:41,540 How the metronome entered the scheme I don't recall, but it must have been deliberately. 14 00:01:41,540 --> 00:01:50,660 The picture frame reappears in a photograph dated March 1963, but there isn't time to show you that one now. 15 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:57,780 I discovered the metronome eventually after tolerating its intubation for quite a while. 16 00:01:57,780 --> 00:02:04,820 Carl Andre is 12 years older and more active than he was then. 17 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:07,610 I see less of him nowadays than I should like. 18 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:11,360 But then there are other people of whom I see more than I care to. 19 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:20,160 I despised this photograph for several years, but I could never bring myself to destroy a negative so incriminating. 20 00:02:20,160 --> 00:03:11,410 It's. 21 00:03:11,410 --> 00:03:42,760 I made this photograph on March 11, 1959. 22 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,540 The face is my own, or rather, it was my own. 23 00:03:47,540 --> 00:03:56,180 As you see, I was thoroughly pleased with myself at the time, presumably for having survived to such brightness and wisdom. 24 00:03:56,180 --> 00:04:06,180 Since it was my 23rd birthday, I focused the camera, sat on a stool in front of it and made the exposures by squeezing a rubber ball with my right foot. 25 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:13,140 There are 11 more photographs on the roll of film, all of comparable grandeur. 26 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:17,600 Some of them exhibit my feature in more sensitive or imposing moods. 27 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,040 One exposure records what now looks to me like a leader. 28 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:32,160 I sent that one to a very pretty and sensible girl on the occasion with Reynolds Equinox, a holiday I held in some esteem. 29 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,680 I think I wrote her some sort of cryptic note on the back, but I never heard from her again. 30 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Anyhow, photography had obviously caught my fancy. 31 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,700 This photograph was made in the studio where I worked. 32 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:51,180 It belonged to the wife of a friend. 33 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:57,340 I dare say they are still married, but he has not been my friend for nearly 10 years. 34 00:04:57,340 --> 00:05:06,140 We became estranged on account of an obscure mutual embarrassment that involved a third party and three dozen eggs. 35 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:23,560 I take some comfort in realizing that my entire physical body has been replaced more than once since it made this portrait of its However, I understand that my central nervous system is an exception. 36 00:05:23,560 --> 00:06:25,280 This photograph was made in September of 1960. 37 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:34,880 The window is that of a dusty cabinet maker's shop on the west side of West Broadway, somewhere between Spring street and West Houston. 38 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:46,480 I first photographed it more than a year earlier as part of a series, but rejected it for reasons having to do with its tastefulness and illusion of deep space. 39 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Then, in the course of two years, I made a half dozen more negatives. 40 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,220 Each time I found something made me feel dissatisfied. 41 00:06:56,220 --> 00:07:02,140 The negative was too flat or too harsh or the framing was too tight. 42 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:12,620 Once a horse was reflected in the glass, although I don't recall seeing that horse once I found myself reflected with my camera and tripod. 43 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:17,580 Finally, the cabinet maker closed up shop and moved away. 44 00:07:17,580 --> 00:07:21,180 I can't even remember exactly where he was anymore. 45 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:27,640 But a year after that, I happened to compare the prints I made from the six negatives. 46 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,720 I was astonished. 47 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:39,240 In the midst of my concern for the flaws of my method, the window itself had changed from season to season far more than my photographs had. 48 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:44,760 I had thought my subject changeless and my own sensibility pliable. 49 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,680 But I was wrong about that. 50 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:52,680 So I chose the one photograph that pleased me most after all and destroyed the rest. 51 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,760 That was years ago now. 52 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,520 I'm sorry. 53 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,060 I only wish you significant. 54 00:07:59,060 --> 00:09:05,340 It's in 1961. 55 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:10,460 For six or eight months I lived in a boardroom loft on Bond street near the Bowery. 56 00:09:10,460 --> 00:09:16,140 A young painter who lived on the floor above me wanted to be an old master. 57 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:19,820 He talked a great deal about gums and varnishes. 58 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:22,940 He was on his way to Impasto's of Reverend Thickness. 59 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:31,260 The spring of that year was sunny, and I spent a month photographing junk and rubble in imitation of action painting. 60 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:35,510 My neighbor saw my new work, and he was not especially pleased. 61 00:09:35,510 --> 00:09:39,510 His opinion upset me, and for good reason. 62 00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:47,510 He lived with a woman, I believe her father was a Brazilian economist who seemed to stay with him out of inertia. 63 00:09:47,510 --> 00:09:54,590 She was monumentally fair, succulent and indifferent in the warm weather. 64 00:09:54,590 --> 00:09:59,990 She went about nearly naked, and I would invent excuses to visit upstairs in order to stare at her. 65 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:08,770 My photographs failing as an excuse, I decided to ingratiate myself in the household by making a realistic work of art. 66 00:10:08,770 --> 00:10:14,770 I carved the numerals you see by the model in clay and then cast them in plaster. 67 00:10:14,770 --> 00:10:18,850 The piece is called a cast of thousands. 68 00:10:18,850 --> 00:10:27,410 The numbers are reversed in the cast, of course, but I reverse them again in printing to enhance their intelligibility. 69 00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:33,010 Anyway, I finally unveiled the piece one Evening. 70 00:10:33,010 --> 00:10:36,830 I suppose the hand was properly horrified. 71 00:10:36,830 --> 00:10:45,470 But the girl, who had never said a dozen words to me, laughed and then laughed outrageously and then outrageously kissed me. 72 00:10:45,470 --> 00:11:39,040 It's. 73 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:50,230 Early in 1963, Frank Stella asked me to name a portrait. 74 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:53,910 He needed it for some casual business use. 75 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:57,910 A show announcement or maybe a passport, something like that. 76 00:11:57,910 --> 00:12:01,590 I only recall that it needed to be done quickly. 77 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:04,070 A witness would do. 78 00:12:04,070 --> 00:12:08,630 I made a dozen witnesses and he chose one. 79 00:12:08,630 --> 00:12:11,770 His dealer paid for the job. 80 00:12:11,770 --> 00:12:16,890 Most of these dozen faces seem resigned or melancholy. 81 00:12:16,890 --> 00:12:21,290 This one amuses me because Frank looks so entirely self possessed. 82 00:12:21,290 --> 00:12:25,930 I suppose blowing smoke rings admits a little feeling beyond that. 83 00:12:25,930 --> 00:12:37,210 Looking at the photograph recently, it reminded me unaccountably of a photograph of another artist squirting water out of his mouth, which is undoubtedly art. 84 00:12:37,210 --> 00:12:40,660 Blowing smoke rings seems more of a craft. 85 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:46,260 Ordinarily, only aqua singers make art with their mouths. 86 00:12:46,260 --> 00:13:41,670 It's. 87 00:13:41,670 --> 00:14:13,570 It's. 88 00:14:13,570 --> 00:14:31,240 I made this photograph of James Rosenquist the first day we met. 89 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:39,460 That was on Palm Sunday in 1963, when he lived in a red rig building at number five County Slip. 90 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:44,650 I went there to photograph him in a studio for a fashion magazine. 91 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:50,250 The job was a washout, but Rosenquist and I remained friends for years afterward. 92 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:54,410 He rented two floors in the building. 93 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:59,930 The lower floor, where he lived with his wife, Mary Lou, was cool, neat and pleasant. 94 00:14:59,930 --> 00:15:05,130 Mary Lou was relaxed, cool, neat, very tall and extremely pleasant. 95 00:15:05,130 --> 00:15:07,290 Rosenquist was calm. 96 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:10,730 It was a lovely, soft, quiet Sunday. 97 00:15:10,730 --> 00:15:17,610 We talked for a while and then went upstairs to his work room. 98 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:20,970 I made 96 negatives in about two hours. 99 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:23,130 This was the last. 100 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:25,850 It is unrelated to the others. 101 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:30,410 Rosenquist is holding open a copy of an old magazine. 102 00:15:30,410 --> 00:15:35,320 A map of the United States shows the distribution of our typical song words. 103 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:40,200 I admire this photograph for its internal geometry. 104 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:46,520 The expression of its subject is virtually perfect mapping of tonal values on the grayscale. 105 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,720 It pleases me as much as anything I did. 106 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:57,190 James Rosenquist and I live far apart now and we seldom meet. 107 00:15:57,190 --> 00:16:02,620 But I cannot recall one moment spent in his company that I didn't completely enjoy. 108 00:16:02,620 --> 00:17:00,990 It's. 109 00:17:00,990 --> 00:17:17,219 This photograph was made at about 3 o' clock on the morning of June 6, 1963, in Lower Manhattan. 110 00:17:17,219 --> 00:17:20,340 It may even have been Wall Street. 111 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:28,380 It is seen from the sidewalk through the window of a large bank that's being closed for renovation, partially demolished. 112 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:38,350 Inside, a big crystal chandelier is draped in a dusty translucent membrane that recalls the tents of caterpillars. 113 00:17:38,350 --> 00:17:46,430 Someone has written with a forefinger on the dusty pane the words I like my new name. 114 00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:52,110 This seemed mysterious to me at that time. 115 00:17:52,110 --> 00:17:58,200 I was much taken with the photographs of Lartee, and I wanted to make photographs as mysterious as his. 116 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,400 Without, however, attempting to comprehend his wit. 117 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:10,120 All I learned was that the two were somehow bound together anyway. 118 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:15,320 My eye for mystery is defective, and so this may be the only example I'll ever produce. 119 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:22,930 Nevertheless, because it is very difficult later to print, I find that I do so with less and less volume. 120 00:18:22,930 --> 00:20:02,610 This photograph of two toilets was made in February of 1964 with a new view camera I just got at that time. 121 00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:08,700 As you can see, it is an imitation of the painted Renaissance crucifixion. 122 00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:14,850 The outline on the cross is quite clear at its foot. 123 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:18,610 The closed bowl on the right represents the Blessed Virgin. 124 00:20:18,610 --> 00:20:20,730 On the left is St. 125 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:21,730 Mary Magdalene. 126 00:20:21,730 --> 00:20:23,970 A bowl with its lid raised. 127 00:20:23,970 --> 00:20:32,610 The roll of toilet paper stands for the skull of Adam, whose sin is conventionally washed away by the blood of the crucified Savior Sheds. 128 00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:37,020 The stairs leading up to the two booths symbolize calico. 129 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:47,570 I'm not completely certain of the iconographic significance of the light bulbs, but the halos that surround them are more than suggested. 130 00:20:47,570 --> 00:22:45,740 Late in the fall of 1964, a painter friend asked me to make a photographic document of spaghetti, an image that he wanted to incorporate into work of his own. 131 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:55,510 I set up my camera above an empty dark room tray, opened a number two can of Franklin American spaghetti, and poured it out. 132 00:22:55,510 --> 00:23:03,910 Then I straighted around until I saw a suitably random arrangement of pastel strands and finished the photograph in a short order. 133 00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:14,040 Then, instead of disposing of the spaghetti, I left it there and made one photograph every day. 134 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,670 This was the 18th such photograph. 135 00:23:18,670 --> 00:23:22,350 The spaghetti has dried without rotting. 136 00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:26,270 The sauce is a kind of pink varnish on the yellow strings. 137 00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:34,350 The entirety is covered in attractive material colonies and mould in three black, green, and white. 138 00:23:34,350 --> 00:23:42,610 I continued the series until no further change appeared to be taking place, about two months altogether. 139 00:23:42,610 --> 00:23:48,530 The spaghetti was never entirely consumed, but the mould eventually disappeared. 140 00:23:48,530 --> 00:25:15,720 This photograph was made at Michael Snow's studio sometime in 1965. 141 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,960 It was made into a poster announcing a show of squawking women works at the Poindexter Gallery in that year. 142 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:32,650 As many as possible pieces are seen by reflection or transmission in a transparent sheet of acrylic plastic, which is itself part of a piece. 143 00:25:32,650 --> 00:25:41,530 The result is probably confusing, but no more so than the show apparently was, since it seems to have been studiously ignored. 144 00:25:41,530 --> 00:25:49,410 If you look closely, you can see Michael Snow himself on the left by transmission, and my camera on the right. 145 00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:55,320 By reflection I recall that we worked half a day for two or three exposures. 146 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:03,480 I believe that Snow was pleased with the photograph itself, as I was, though he disliked the poster intensity. 147 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,400 He said I had chosen a typeface that looked like an invitation to a church of social. 148 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:15,930 I regret to say that he was right, but it was too late. 149 00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:18,560 There was nothing to do about it. 150 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520 The whole business still troubles me. 151 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760 I wish I could apologize to him. 152 00:26:23,760 --> 00:27:07,380 It. 153 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:57,870 This closed photograph of Larry Woons reclining on his bed was made early in 1966. 154 00:27:57,870 --> 00:28:03,290 Revolve magazine I was ecstatically happy that afternoon. 155 00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:05,210 For entirely personal reasons. 156 00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:09,210 I set up my camera quickly, made a single exposure, and left. 157 00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:15,130 Later on I was sent a check for the photograph that I got in a fanatic book by half. 158 00:28:15,130 --> 00:28:20,490 I returned it to the magazine with a letter of explanation. 159 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,370 They sent me another check for the amount I asked for. 160 00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:24,970 So did my dollars. 161 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:29,220 Months later the photograph was published. 162 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:33,140 I was working in a color film laboratory at the time. 163 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:37,380 My boss saw the photograph and I nearly lost my job. 164 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:40,820 I decided to stop doing this sort of thing. 165 00:28:40,820 --> 00:29:07,620 Sam. 166 00:29:07,620 --> 00:30:42,510 I did not make this photograph, nor do I know who did, nor can I recall precisely when it was made. 167 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:53,070 It was printed in a newspaper, so I suppose that any patient person with an interest in this sort of thing could satisfy himself entirely as to his origins. 168 00:30:53,070 --> 00:30:56,910 The image is slightly indistinct. 169 00:30:56,910 --> 00:31:06,120 A stubby middle aged man wearing a baseball cap looks back in matter of fact dismay or disgruntled of the camera. 170 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:16,920 It is caught in the midst of a display of spears, each about the size of a grapefruit and of some nondescript white color. 171 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,680 He holds four of them in his cupped hands. 172 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:26,760 The rest seem half submerged in water, or else lying in something like mud. 173 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,730 A vague marginal mass behind the crouching man suggests foliage. 174 00:31:32,730 --> 00:31:41,450 I am as puzzled and mildly distressed by the sight of this photograph as its protagonist seems to be with the spheres. 175 00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:45,730 They seem absolutely alien and yet not very forbidding. 176 00:31:45,730 --> 00:31:49,050 After all, what does it mean? 177 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:55,850 I am uncertain, but perfectly willing to offer a plausible explanation. 178 00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:59,380 The man is a Texas fruit grower. 179 00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:02,980 His orchards lie near the Gulf of Mexico. 180 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,740 The spheres are grapefruit. 181 00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:12,580 As they neared maturity, a hurricane flooded the orchard and knocked down the fruit. 182 00:32:12,580 --> 00:32:20,340 The man is stunned by his commercial loss and a little resentful of the photographer who intrudes upon his attempt to assess it. 183 00:32:20,340 --> 00:33:19,220 On the other hand, were photography of greater antiquity, then this image might date from the time of, let us say, Pascal, and I suppose he would have understood it quite differently, Since 1966. 184 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:21,300 I have made few photographs. 185 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:25,940 This has been partly through design and partly through laziness. 186 00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:29,780 I think I expose fewer than 50 negatives a year. 187 00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:35,060 Now, of course, I work more deliberately than I once did, and that counts for something. 188 00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:39,780 But I must confess that I've largely given up still photography. 189 00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:50,350 So it is all the more surprising that I felt again a few weeks ago a vagrant urge that would seem familiar a few years ago. 190 00:33:50,350 --> 00:33:54,350 The urge to take my camera out of doors and make a photograph. 191 00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:59,550 It was a quite simple, obtrusive need, so I evaded. 192 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:07,370 I wandered around for hours, unsatisfied, and finally turned towards home. 193 00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:14,730 In the afternoon, half a block from my front door, the receding perspective of an alley caught my eye. 194 00:34:14,730 --> 00:34:18,650 A dark tunnel with a cross street beyond, brightly lit. 195 00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:24,410 As I focused and composed the image, a truck turned into the alley. 196 00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:28,570 The driver stopped it got out and walked away. 197 00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:31,050 He left his cab door open. 198 00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:37,939 My composition was spoiled, but I felt a perverse impulse to make the exposure anyway. 199 00:34:37,939 --> 00:34:42,099 I did so and then went home to develop my single negative. 200 00:34:42,099 --> 00:34:47,458 When I came to print the negative, an odd thing struck my eye. 201 00:34:47,458 --> 00:35:00,089 Something standing in the cross street and invisible to me, was reflected in the factory window and then reflected once more in the rear view mirror attached to the truck door. 202 00:35:00,089 --> 00:35:02,400 It was only a tiny detail. 203 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Since then, I have enlarged this small section of my negative enormously. 204 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,400 The grain of the film all but obliterates the features of the image. 205 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,840 It is obscured by any possible reckoning. 206 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,480 It is hopelessly ambiguous. 207 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:38,080 Nevertheless, what I believe I see in court, in that speck of film, fills me with such fear, such uttered dread and loathing, that I think I shall never dare to make another photograph. 208 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Here it is. 209 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,840 Look at it. 210 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640 Do you see what I see? 21898

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