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[crickets chirping in the distance]
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[birds cawing in the distance]
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[man, on recording] Fear.
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Fear is the most overwhelming emotion
that exists in man.
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Fear overrides everything.
Fear will shut your body down.
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People understand that,
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but they gotta understand
how you get there.
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You see what I'm saying?
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They gotta understand
what took place to get you there.
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We can't do that for you. But it's there.
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It's there. It's this close.
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[man 2] Today, it's time right now.
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Let's do this. You can't go. Look at me.
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Say it.
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Okay? Say it and be done with it.
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[policeman] It's Monday, September 4th,
approximately 12:37.
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A crime scene off of Bladen Road.
Apparent double homicide.
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[man] And they were scared.
The neighborhood, the community.
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They didn't know what was going on.
We didn't know what was going on.
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[policeman] Somebody was found
in a puddle behind the wrecker...
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[camera shutters clicking]
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a white male in his 40s.
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[man] Robert Van Allen.
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- [man 2] Robert Van Allen?
- [man 1] Robert Van Allen.
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Senseless waste of a life over $500.
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[man, on recording] There's a second body
on the other side...
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an older gentleman
maybe in his 50s or early 60s.
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We felt that this victim
was a senseless death.
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[man] Then here come the rumors,
you know, we got a killer loose.
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Don't know where he's at, who it is.
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Somebody thought
it could have been a family member.
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[man] Brantley County
is one of the poorest counties
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in the state of Georgia.
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Lots of really good hardworking people,
but just people scraping to get by.
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And this is the community
where Lavelle Lynn made his money.
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[woman] Like everybody, everybody's got
an enemy here or there,
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but we never seen any of 'em.
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He kept all the rigmarole away from us.
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[chuckles]
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[Belinda] This is my dad here...
at the zoo.
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We did everything together.
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Daddy was like the backbone of the family.
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He tried to make me like
a peacemaker,
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keep everybody close.
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He was a... He was a good man.
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Some people didn't like him,
'cause he was strict and he was stern
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and he was set in his ways,
but he had a lot of friends, you know.
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That morning Daddy got killed,
we was all sitting around the table,
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cutting up, joking with Daddy
about the T-shirts that he brought home
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with little funny sayings on 'em.
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We was all having fun and joking.
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And then he got his phone call.
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[man] At about 9:50 a.m.,
the day the murders occurred,
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there was a telephone call placed,
uh, to Lavelle Lynn's house.
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That call was placed
from a, uh, convenience store...
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that's at the end of a road
that intersects with the road
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that the crime scene was located on
just a few miles away from it.
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[bells on door jingle]
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[Belinda] So I answered the phone,
you know,
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"Lavelle's Pool Hall,
Eight Ball speaking."
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You know,
and he kinda snickered a little bit
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and asked to speak to Lavelle.
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[Higgins] Lavelle Lynn had
a wrecker service as such,
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of... of picking up disabled cars.
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[Belinda] And Daddy
just kept repeating himself.
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"Where are y'all located at?
Where are you at?"
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"Bladen Road by the railroad tracks."
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Daddy never took his truck off the road,
the highway.
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He'd never go on dirt roads,
but he went down there.
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[Higgins] Lavelle Lynn was reputed
to carry a large amount of cash.
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[Belinda] Daddy didn't believe
in banks and stuff.
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He was always cash only, you know.
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He counted out $480,
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which was for the light bill
and the phone bill.
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And he put the rest of his money
in his little black pouch thing
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and had, uh, Robert to go put it up.
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So that's all he had on him
was light bill money and phone bill money.
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And his bag of weed, of course.
[chuckles] You know...
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[man] Is there money in the wallet, Tom?
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[Tom] No. Well, yeah, a couple of...
Well, yeah, I can't tell how much...
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[man] It does contain money.
Identification.
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This victim could be identified
as Robert Van Allen.
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- How old, Tommy?
- [Tom] Born in, uh, '58.
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[man] Born in '58.
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[Belinda] Robert, he was Daddy's
best friend/mechanic...
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whatever needed to be done.
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They never took nothing off of Robert.
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He had jewelry on.
His wallet, it was never touched.
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The only things that was missing
was Daddy's wallet and his money.
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Robert was laying on his back,
hooking up to the cars when he got shot...
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with a .25 handgun.
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Daddy was shot once, between the eyes.
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It was devastating, you know.
Didn't understand why or who.
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[woman] Um...
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Here, talk for me.
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- [man] All right. What do I need to say?
- [woman] I'm just testing the sound.
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Oh.
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I just think I'm a scapegoat for this.
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They needed a conviction. They got one.
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At the time of my uncle's murder,
I was working two jobs.
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I was working with Asplundh,
and I was working at Walmart.
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I was doing okay.
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Were we having financial difficulties?
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I mean, we were struggling.
But you know what? We were happy.
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I mean, of course, at the time,
I would have never thought
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that I would be considered
a suspect in a double homicide.
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I was more concerned about losing my job
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than what I was, being arrested
for two counts of murder.
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[Belinda] Did he do it? You know.
That was his uncle, you know.
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Why?
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When he'd have done anything
in the world for him.
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All he had to do was ask.
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Oh, my Lord. We got calls
just as I have no idea where to begin.
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There were so many callers
coming in left and right.
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During the investigation,
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we had talked to the family
and I'd advised everybody,
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you know, "If you all see anything
out of the ordinary,
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or anything suspicious, please call.
Don't care when it is," you know.
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Everybody was pointing their fingers.
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"So and so done it. So and so done it.
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This wrecker driver done it.
This person done it. The sheriff done it."
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My name was even mentioned,
you know, at one time.
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Boy, there was so much smoke
down there in all directions.
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At that point, I'd been a criminal
defense lawyer for 12 or 13 years.
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I've dealt with a lot of murder cases.
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I have never dealt with a case
where there have been that many suspects,
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potential suspects, um,
called in or mentioned.
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Lavelle was quite a colorful character
who liked to gamble on drag racing
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and had a history with selling pot.
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And he was just a... a man
who knew all the people in the community
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who were taking shortcuts.
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Yeah, he knew a lotta people.
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He bought cars all over the place
from all kinda auto sales places.
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Yeah, Lavelle knew people,
definitely knew people.
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I mean, he'd go to every car lot
around here.
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We'd go from here to Savannah
and buy cars from 'em
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and buy all their used cars.
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He'd bring them back to his place
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and he'd park them out
and sell parts off of them.
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[Belinda] Junk cars everywhere.
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From the dirt road to the tree lines,
there was nothing but cars everywhere.
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[Whorton] He had shady ways
of making money, you know what I mean?
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And everybody thought it, knew it.
I mean, I never seen it.
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But I always thought he did.
It's an assumption, you know what I mean?
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And I didn't look at him that way.
I looked at him as the parts man.
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We making money.
[laughs] You know what I mean?
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So I don't care what he does.
I didn't care if he sold dope or what.
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It doesn't matter to me.
That's his business, you know?
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I just liked the idea that me and him
made money off the cars.
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[Adams] I recall we had well over 35 names
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that were presented as potential people
who might be good for this double murder.
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The thought was
there could have been a retaliation
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or that Lavelle had gotten back
into drug dealing.
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And so there were lots and lots
of potential suspects.
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[Belinda] Maybe Daddy might have seen
a little too much. I don't know.
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There are some things
that we don't know, you know?
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I mean, he didn't ever tell Mama.
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The only thing he'd ever tell Mama is,
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you know, "The less you know,
the better off you are."
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[Higgins] Two individuals
were seen there by the wrecker,
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uh, by witnesses after the...
The crime had occurred.
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[Adams] The description
of these two people.
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He did describe a white male.
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Well, in Brantley County,
that's all they have.
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[chuckles] There are no African-Americans.
There are no Latinos.
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They had a drawing out
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of what the person supposedly looked like
two days after the murder.
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Back then, the sketch drawing
kinda looked like me.
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And so I was pulled into the station
and then questioned for 72 hours.
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We buried Lavelle and Robert.
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And the day of his funeral,
I walked through the crowd.
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You wouldn't have believed
the people that were looking at me
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when I was walking up.
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You know, and I'm looking at them thinking
they looking at me like I did this.
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And I'm looking through the crowd at them,
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trying to figure out
which one of them might have done it.
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There were so many people
that would do so much wrong
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that actually hung out with Lavelle
that it could have been any of 'em.
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[woman] Well, at the funeral...
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- Buddy went to the funeral, right?
- [woman 2] Yeah, we went to the funeral.
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And, Buddy, he was so upset.
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And... I'd just be there for him,
you know, the best I could.
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'Cause Buddy was close to his uncle.
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I mean, he wasn't close
to the rest of his uncles
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but he was close, yeah, to Lavelle.
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So he was grieving for his uncle...
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and Lavelle's kids,
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'cause we all went to school together.
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I felt really sorry for his kids,
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'cause they had lost their daddy,
you know.
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I felt so sorry for their mama...
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'cause she'd lost her husband.
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And I couldn't imagine going through that.
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Didn't want to imagine going through that.
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[Adams] There had been a six-month
investigation of this double homicide
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with no solid leads.
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They'd eliminated a... a couple of people
as potential suspects
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but they'd not gotten very far down
that list.
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And then Buddy's name came to 'em
in early March.
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[Buddy, on telephone] The only thing that
connects me to this case to begin with,
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is being at that freaking store
at the time.
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[Adams] Paige's Mini-Mart
is on this U.S. highway,
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a little gas station with a lot of pumps.
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Everybody goes there.
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It's really the crossroads
of that community.
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Buddy went there all the time.
Lavelle went there all the time.
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Many of these other 36 suspects
went there,
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frequented that place all the time.
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[white noise static]
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[Adams] Buddy had been there
on the day of the homicide.
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He... He appears to be clearly
in the video.
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And from Paige's, a call was made
to get Lavelle Lynn to leave his house.
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[Buddy, on telephone] I get up
that morning and I go to Auto Zone
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over in Brunswick
to get a starter for my Jeep.
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On my way back from Brunswick,
I had to use the restroom.
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That's all.
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[bells on door jingle]
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[Buddy] I stop at the store, go in,
use the restroom, leave.
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And then I go to come back in
to buy some cigarettes.
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[Kristy] Went to go back in to get him
a pack of cigarettes, line was too long.
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He come back out, got in the car and left.
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[Buddy, on telephone]
Six minutes after I leave the store,
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an alleged phone call is made
from that store that lured my uncle
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and Robert out to where
they were shot and killed.
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I just wish I could have, you know,
picked up on the voice sooner.
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You know, there was...
I ain't never heard of him.
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He was soft spoken, uh,
when he asked to speak to Lavelle.
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You know, it wasn't Buddy, 'cause Buddy
has got this, uh, manly, straggly voice.
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[Higgins] The video surveillance
showed, uh, Mr. Woodall
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beginning at 9:47 a.m.
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And then ending at 9:50 a.m.,
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about the time
that the call would have been made.
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There was no video outside of the store
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where the payphones
would have been located.
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When you're looking
at that surveillance video,
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the pay phones would be
to the right of the frame.
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So, you have him leaving the store,
walking in the direction of the phones.
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And then the car that's seen passing
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in front of the Mini-Mart
outside of the Mini-Mart...
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that's consistent with his car
leaving from that same direction.
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It's entirely possible
that the other suspect is the one
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who was making the telephone call.
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But this puts Mr. Woodall
at the convenience store
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at the time that the call was placed.
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All the evidence we collected,
we feel like,
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led to the... solving of the case.
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Glenn County P.D.
worked the crime scene.
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They went out and collected
the, uh, shell casings.
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There were three shell casings fired
from a semi-automatic handgun...
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found at the scene,
close to the body of Robert Van Allen.
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They had compared those with some spent
.25 caliber shell casings
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from behind Buddy Woodall's
parents' house...
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and they were a match.
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[Adams] The shell casings weren't
definitively fired by the same weapon.
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And, ultimately,
the weapon had never been recovered.
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When the police focused in on Buddy,
they had largely circumstantial evidence.
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They had multiple hearsay statements
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that Buddy's brother-in-law and Buddy
had sort of talked about this incident
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or they'd heard from others
that Buddy sort of talked about it.
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I'd never heard him say his uncle.
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I remember Buddy telling me
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what he thought he would do
if he had to knock somebody off.
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He'd get 'em out somewhere
in the woods somewhere...
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and he'd get 'em to come to him
and do 'em in.
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That just lined up too good for me.
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[Adams] They had...
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tire track markings that didn't prove
Buddy's car was there.
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But it was consistent
with the Goodyear tires that Buddy had.
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I mean, some of this really started to
feel like, um, My Cousin Vinny, you know,
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with sort of circumstantial evidence
that really could be read both ways.
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Buddy didn't look anything
like the sketch.
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Buddy has never had that much hair.
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And certainly not hair that stood up.
274
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Buddy was at Paige's Mini-Mart
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sometime around
when the call was made to Lavelle.
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And that's... that's true.
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But in that little window of time,
so were about 50 other people.
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There was certainly
significantly more evidence
279
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pointing to all these other sources
than there had been to Buddy.
280
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But the Glynn County detectives
didn't look for that link.
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All their investigation
was to show Buddy did it
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and not, in any way, to...
To more fully look for other suspects.
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After he got off from work that evening,
he come by my house.
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I was sitting right out there
on that back porch,
285
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and, uh, he told me what was going on.
286
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I... I didn't know it. I didn't know...
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[sniffles]
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[voice cracks] Excuse me.
289
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I didn't know
that he was a suspect in any way.
290
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He told me they had, uh,
questioned him about it.
291
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He said he was not guilty,
and he was scared.
292
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I told him. I said, "Buddy,
you tell them you have nothing to say,
293
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that you want a lawyer,
and you cannot afford a lawyer.
294
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Do not talk to them by yourself,
not one more time."
295
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,329
[police dispatch, indistinct]
296
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[Wheatly] The next day, they came by
when he got off from work.
297
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[Buddy, on telephone]
When I got home about 6:30 that night,
298
00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:38,714
Walt Vaneer and Jay Wiggins
gets out of the car.
299
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"We want to ask you some questions
about, um, your uncle's murder."
300
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[Kristy] They had told me
all they wanted to do was talk to Buddy.
301
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And not to worry about it,
that he would be home.
302
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So I took 'em... I took 'em at their word.
303
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They were police officers.
304
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[Kristy] He'd been up for so long.
305
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He'd been drinking.
He took some of his grandmother's Xanax.
306
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[Adams] They had him there
for several hours.
307
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And it was only after they were able
308
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to get Buddy to place himself
at the scene,
309
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did they turn on the video camera.
310
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So somewhere nine to ten hours
into the interrogation process,
311
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they turned on a video recorder
that they had available the entire time.
312
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[white noise static]
313
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[man] You got a... a lawyer?
314
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[man 2] You're... you're already...
315
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You have...
316
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You got it set in your mind
that I'm a murderer.
317
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[man 1] What do you call it?
318
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Tindale comes in.
I mean, he's aggressive.
319
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You are trying to...
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[Tindale] What am I trying to do?
What am I trying to do?
321
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You're trying to say stuff
that I did not say.
322
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[Tindale] You did say it.
323
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- I said David.
- Okay.
324
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Not my uncle.
325
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[Buddy] They had asked me,
"Did anyone use your wife's car that day?"
326
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I said, "Davey was going to use it."
327
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They said, "Hold on. Stop, stop, stop.
Who's Davey?"
328
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I said, "He's my brother-in-law.
329
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His name's David Wimberly.
You know, we call him Davey."
330
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Their whole story was
331
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he was the one that shot
and killed my uncle and Robert
332
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and I was the one
that was supposed to have been there
333
00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:38,334
and witnessed all of this.
334
00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:44,214
They said, "If you will say that Davey
is the one that shot and killed them...
335
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we'll let you go."
336
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[Adams] They talked to him for a few hours
337
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,349
and they decided
that they wanted to do some testing.
338
00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:57,770
And they used a tool called
the Computer Voice Stress Analyzer,
339
00:23:57,853 --> 00:24:00,439
which, as far as I can tell,
is hocus-pocus.
340
00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:03,859
But they used this
as an investigative tool.
341
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[Higgins] CVSA analyzes your voice.
They're not admissible in court.
342
00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:16,121
They're not... not deemed
to be scientifically reliable.
343
00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,833
But it is something,
just as polygraph examinations are...
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00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:24,880
Are used by law enforcement agencies,
uh, as an investigative tool.
345
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And they do rely upon them,
regardless upon admissibility in court.
346
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:36,767
[Buddy] They asked me two questions
pertaining to the shootings.
347
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Was I there? Did I shoot and kill anyone?
348
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,612
Jay Wiggins says that I was being honest
349
00:24:48,696 --> 00:24:53,075
about not shooting my uncle or Robert.
350
00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:58,789
But I was supposedly being deceitful
351
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about being present
at the scene of the crime.
352
00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:11,301
I had refused for so long
the story that they wanted me to say.
353
00:25:12,094 --> 00:25:13,804
I knew it was a lie.
354
00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:15,514
[sniffles]
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00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:26,817
[Adams] So the detectives put him
in the situation after hours of thinking,
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"Even though I'm innocent,
I have no way out."
357
00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:37,870
[Buddy] I went to Brunswick that morning,
like I told y'all. [sniffles]
358
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I did see Davey.
359
00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:49,631
He stopped me and asked me
if I would help him do something.
360
00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,135
[man] Did he elaborate
on what you say he wanted?
361
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,779
[Buddy] He didn't elaborate on nothing.
362
00:25:56,013 --> 00:26:00,225
So we get in Kristy's car
and drive down Bladen...
363
00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:04,813
down to where it forks at.
364
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:08,233
And he takes me to the very end...
365
00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:13,989
gave me
a little .22 Dillinger, Derringer...
366
00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:16,325
a little two shot .22.
367
00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:22,372
He goes, "If you see any cops
or anything, fire two shots in the air."
368
00:26:22,873 --> 00:26:25,000
Then he left, turned around and went back.
369
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:27,503
- [man] Driving...?
- Kristy's car.
370
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,464
- Left you standing out there?
- As the watch.
371
00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:36,345
[Buddy, on phone] When I told them
that story, that was a lie.
372
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,475
I just wanted it to end.
I just wanted to go home.
373
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:45,729
I remember seeing a bunch of people
down there on the bridge fishing.
374
00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:49,441
I remember shooting at a snake.
375
00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:54,154
[Buddy, on phone] I believed in my heart
that they had just made a mistake.
376
00:26:54,238 --> 00:26:56,156
And I felt like if... if...
377
00:26:57,741 --> 00:27:01,537
I gave them what they wanted,
that it would end for me.
378
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:08,001
That they would forget about me and,
you know, and just let all this end.
379
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588
Hell, I thought it was over.
380
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,299
So he places himself at the scene.
381
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760
And once they did that,
they tried the next step.
382
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,721
They used every technique.
383
00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:23,892
They moved the desk to the side,
so that they could really get in there.
384
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:26,812
And they were leaning in
and putting a hand on his knee
385
00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,188
and whispering to Buddy.
386
00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:30,858
[man] You sure
you didn't hear the shot?
387
00:27:31,358 --> 00:27:33,402
'Cause people heard some shots.
388
00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:35,246
You should've heard it
where you're standing.
389
00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:39,491
If these pressure techniques are put on us
for a certain amount of time,
390
00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:42,703
it might take you a week,
it might take me an hour,
391
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:46,373
but we're all gonna have
our breaking point where we give up
392
00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,293
when you have a skilled interrogator
on the other side of the table.
393
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:57,217
You notice we, um, never did talk with you
anymore about, uh, the witnesses.
394
00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:00,280
I didn't say nothing about that to you.
395
00:28:00,304 --> 00:28:03,307
I didn't say anything else,
because I saw you blocking the stuff out.
396
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:09,187
I can tell you right here, right now...
397
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:12,524
I picked you out
a second past ten minutes.
398
00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:17,821
So it... it's possible
that you're blocking that out.
399
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,866
Putting yourself down the road
where you wanted to be.
400
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,117
We gotta redo that.
401
00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:29,833
[man] Buddy, I think the two hardest
things in the world for you is...
402
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:35,172
you were involved in your uncle's death.
403
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:36,798
You didn't shoot your uncle.
404
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,635
I don't think you meant for it to,
but it happened.
405
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:42,679
[man 2] You notice how it came
to you today? Or tonight?
406
00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:46,767
[man 1] When it all started coming to you
a little bit, it was like...
407
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:49,561
It was like having the... the shades
pulled back, wasn't it?
408
00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:53,148
Like lightning, maybe.
409
00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:56,276
There's more light to come in.
410
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,789
[man 1] You notice
we haven't fingerprinted you.
411
00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:08,997
You interested why we haven't?
412
00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:13,259
'Cause it's gonna tell me
what I already know.
413
00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:16,380
We have partial prints on casings.
414
00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,133
Why do that? Why? What's that gonna
show me any more than I know now?
415
00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:24,721
You're taking yourself
to where you didn't wanna be
416
00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:26,390
or where you wanted to be in your mind.
417
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:35,941
Earlier, you said it wasn't possible you
were on Bladen Road. You remember?
418
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,568
You said, "It wasn't...
I wasn't on Bladen Road."
419
00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,906
Then your mind opened up
a little bit, didn't it?
420
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:46,285
And when it opened up,
you realized not only is it possible,
421
00:29:46,368 --> 00:29:49,121
but "I was there on Bladen Road."
422
00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:59,381
You don't remember hollering,
"No!" or "Stop."
423
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:01,216
or "What are you doing?"
424
00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:07,014
You don't remember him
pointing the gun in your direction?
425
00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:16,982
Tell me about the snake.
Maybe that'll help.
426
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:19,043
- Tell me about the snake.
- [Buddy] It was a little...
427
00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:21,570
A little bitty ground rattler.
428
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:24,614
- [man 1] So you shot it how many times?
- [Buddy] No, I shot at it once.
429
00:30:24,698 --> 00:30:26,783
I missed a bit, and he was gone.
430
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,329
[man 1] I think that that snake
you're seeing...
431
00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:34,166
is your opinion maybe of... of Davey.
432
00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:39,963
You have a good foundation in the church,
don't you?
433
00:30:40,047 --> 00:30:41,089
[Buddy] Mm-hmm.
434
00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:46,428
[man 1] You see something evil
in your life, and you try to block it out.
435
00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:49,306
But it's so evil
that you can't block it out completely,
436
00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:51,391
so you have to replace it
with something else.
437
00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:55,145
What you replaced it with was that snake.
438
00:30:58,273 --> 00:30:59,983
And you said yourself you couldn't hit it.
439
00:31:00,901 --> 00:31:03,070
And what that's telling you is
you couldn't stop it.
440
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:05,113
Does it make sense now?
441
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,326
[Buddy] I didn't shoot my uncle.
442
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,661
[man 1] I know you didn't.
I know you didn't.
443
00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:14,057
- [Buddy] I didn't shoot Robert.
- I know you didn't.
444
00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:15,874
But I think you sat there and watched.
445
00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:18,627
And I think that's something
that your mind just couldn't handle.
446
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:25,717
I just...
447
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:31,390
[Buddy] I wish I could just
close my eyes and...
448
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,519
[man 2] The walls
are crumbling down, Buddy.
449
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:42,293
[man 1] You couldn't stop him, could you?
450
00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:43,985
[Buddy] I can't make you understand.
451
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:50,117
[man 1] You couldn't stop the snake,
and nobody blames you, okay?
452
00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:55,705
Now, you're not... It was the other guy
deep in your mind, right?
453
00:31:56,665 --> 00:31:58,500
Your mind is coming around. Okay?
454
00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:01,169
- Just open it up. Open it up.
- [sobbing]
455
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,671
Your mind is coming around.
456
00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:04,506
Think about that snake.
457
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,384
You see what it really is.
458
00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:12,180
See the horrible act that you already saw.
You gotta open the door.
459
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:15,267
Tell me if you don't see that.
460
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:22,732
[man 2] Buddy?
461
00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:28,822
It's a dead end, it's time right now.
Let's do this.
462
00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:33,243
You can't go on. Look at me.
You can't go on.
463
00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:37,956
I can go no further.
Let's go. Let's go right now.
464
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:44,379
Say it. If you gotta keep your eyes closed
while you say it, say it.
465
00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:48,675
[Buddy] Yes, I would.
466
00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,012
I mean, I don't know...
467
00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:55,533
- Say it, and you're done with it, Buddy.
- [man 1] You'll have the best sleep
468
00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,351
you've ever had
in the last six, eight months.
469
00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,436
[man 2] Buddy?
470
00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:02,814
Say it, and you're done with it.
471
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:15,076
He told 'em what they wanted to hear.
472
00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:22,125
So he said they kept telling him,
"Just tell us what we want to hear.
473
00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:23,919
Just tell us what we want to hear.
474
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:27,631
You'll be able to go home
to your wife and sons."
475
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,719
And he told 'em
what they wanted to hear after a while.
476
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,974
[Buddy] I remember Robert being
in the front of the car.
477
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:42,145
I heard a single gunshot...
478
00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:44,356
[sniffling]
479
00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:47,567
from the back of the car.
480
00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:51,446
[Higgins] Buddy Woodall's statement
he ultimately made was that,
481
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,199
he was there but he did not shoot anybody.
482
00:33:56,326 --> 00:33:59,996
[Adams] No lawyer worth their salt
would have allowed him to endure that.
483
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,892
And they would have never had enough
to arrest Buddy Woodall for this crime.
484
00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:06,127
And maybe they would have investigated
the other people
485
00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:09,756
that they stopped investigating
the moment they focused in on Buddy.
486
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,635
[man 1] Sit back, close your eyes
and relax a bit, all right?
487
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,887
And enjoy the release of this, okay?
488
00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:21,059
[Buddy] Do I get to go home?
489
00:34:22,102 --> 00:34:24,437
[man 1, sighs] I don't see why not.
490
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,898
[door opens]
491
00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:31,152
[sobs and sighs]
492
00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:32,404
Oh, dear God.
493
00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:46,001
[sniffling, sobbing]
494
00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:50,996
[Buddy, on phone] I have no...
495
00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:57,095
I don't know. I wanted out.
496
00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:02,267
I seen a way out
or I thought I seen a way out.
497
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:03,393
And...
498
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:09,316
I guess you could say
I took a coward's way out.
499
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:14,904
I regret that. I do.
500
00:35:20,577 --> 00:35:24,372
Buddy sat in jail for five years
before we even went to court.
501
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:29,753
I was left with three kids
to raise on my own.
502
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,464
I thought he was coming home.
503
00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:35,050
Everybody thought he was coming home.
504
00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:55,028
The prosecution had a largely
circumstantial case with a confession.
505
00:35:57,113 --> 00:36:00,617
The confession
was their best piece of evidence.
506
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,871
Seventy to 75 percent of which
was not recorded at all,
507
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,831
even though they had
a recording device there
508
00:36:06,915 --> 00:36:09,084
and all they had to do was press "On."
509
00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:15,465
We had one of the nation's best experts
onboard to come down and explain
510
00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:18,301
this really difficult phenomenon
of false confession.
511
00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:21,846
Like why would a person confess
to a crime they didn't do?
512
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,724
If they're not beaten and if they're
not intellectually disabled.
513
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:28,228
But, a few months before
our case went to trial,
514
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:30,021
the Georgia Supreme Court
515
00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:32,732
said that false confession experts
aren't allowed in Georgia.
516
00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:34,025
And that crushed us.
517
00:36:35,735 --> 00:36:38,238
[Kristy] When they said
that he was guilty, I just...
518
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:41,783
[sighs]
519
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:43,743
said, "Oh, God."
520
00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:47,747
I about had a nervous breakdown that day.
521
00:36:48,957 --> 00:36:53,086
I don't know how they come
to the conclusion of it, honestly.
522
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:00,885
[Wheatly] I was in court
every day they had court.
523
00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:04,431
I sat there for the entirety of it.
524
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,643
I just didn't feel like
it was a... a fair thing.
525
00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:12,564
They did not prove
beyond any reasonable doubt
526
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:15,984
that he was guilty
of what he was charged with.
527
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:20,321
The only thing they had
was a... a confession of sorts.
528
00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:21,948
That's what convicted him.
529
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:23,658
If that hadn't have been there,
530
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,286
I'm not sure that he wouldn't have been
found innocent.
531
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:30,349
[Adams] When we went to the sentencing
phase of this capital trial,
532
00:37:30,373 --> 00:37:32,208
there were three options in Georgia,
533
00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:35,044
life with parole, life without parole
or the death penalty.
534
00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:38,506
Nobody ever gets life with parole.
It just doesn't happen.
535
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:42,927
In Buddy's case,
the jury came back with life with parole.
536
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,972
Unheard of. Unheard of in Georgia.
537
00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:51,227
I think that's a reflection
on... on nagging feelings
538
00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:55,648
about the level of proof against Buddy
in the first part of the trial.
539
00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:02,947
Justice missed its mark in this case.
540
00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,453
Six months or so after trial,
I got a call one day and it said,
541
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:10,079
"You're not gonna believe this.
542
00:38:10,163 --> 00:38:13,708
David Wimberly walked out of jail.
He's free."
543
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,337
I said, "What?" And they said,
"Yeah, they dropped all charges on him."
544
00:38:18,922 --> 00:38:21,549
And so,
without that videotaped confession,
545
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:25,178
they just didn't have enough case on him
and they dropped charges.
546
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,388
That says everything.
547
00:38:31,893 --> 00:38:33,728
[Belinda] All of those questions like...
548
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:38,024
Did they make Buddy take the rap for it?
549
00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,276
Or, you know,
if you're gonna admit to being there...
550
00:38:42,237 --> 00:38:45,532
and did not pull a trigger, then who did?
551
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:49,911
Daddy was a good person, you know?
552
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:55,041
Sometimes, you can smell him
in the air, you know?
553
00:38:56,084 --> 00:38:57,836
Especially down there...
[chuckles]
554
00:38:59,587 --> 00:39:01,297
where he used to sit all the time.
555
00:39:17,146 --> 00:39:19,858
[Kristy] We've had a lot happen
to, you know, our family.
556
00:39:19,941 --> 00:39:22,944
16 years going through this.
557
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:30,743
Unless a person's really been through it,
you... you really don't know.
558
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,540
But it's just like you have
to take it one day at a time.
559
00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:41,963
And... you gotta have faith, I mean...
560
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:48,386
Jason... Jason handled it through eating.
561
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:51,514
He never really talked
about his feelings a lot.
562
00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:57,186
He was almost 200 pounds
at ten years old.
563
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:02,025
My little boy will be a year old.
We'll see.
564
00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:04,152
- This month.
- Seventeenth.
565
00:40:04,986 --> 00:40:06,446
At times, I really...
566
00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:09,073
I really feel like he thinks
that we forgot about him,
567
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,076
especially because we used
to go see him every week.
568
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,080
And now, we have our own families
and, you know,
569
00:40:16,164 --> 00:40:18,666
so we don't get to go see him
as much as we would like to.
570
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,210
I don't even think
I've been at all this year.
571
00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:23,230
- It's been a while.
- You know, it's terrible too,
572
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:28,927
'cause... I think there's chances
I could have gone and I haven't.
573
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:46,503
[Adams] A lot of judges
like to tell jurors
574
00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,696
we have the best criminal justice system
in the world.
575
00:40:49,739 --> 00:40:50,782
Maybe we do.
576
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:57,038
But at the end of the day, it's only
as good as law enforcement is fair,
577
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:02,293
as the defense lawyer is skilled,
as the jurors are open-minded
578
00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:04,712
and as good as the experts
579
00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:06,756
and the testimony
you're allowed to put up.
580
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:11,552
And even then, it's a human endeavor.
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