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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,345 [crickets chirping in the distance] 2 00:00:15,057 --> 00:00:16,683 [birds cawing in the distance] 3 00:00:32,741 --> 00:00:34,034 [man, on recording] Fear. 4 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:39,540 Fear is the most overwhelming emotion that exists in man. 5 00:00:42,084 --> 00:00:48,298 Fear overrides everything. Fear will shut your body down. 6 00:00:51,176 --> 00:00:52,302 People understand that, 7 00:00:52,386 --> 00:00:54,137 but they gotta understand how you get there. 8 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:55,847 You see what I'm saying? 9 00:00:55,931 --> 00:00:58,267 They gotta understand what took place to get you there. 10 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:02,312 We can't do that for you. But it's there. 11 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:04,523 It's there. It's this close. 12 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:11,697 [man 2] Today, it's time right now. 13 00:01:12,531 --> 00:01:15,409 Let's do this. You can't go. Look at me. 14 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:17,911 Say it. 15 00:01:19,371 --> 00:01:21,999 Okay? Say it and be done with it. 16 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:43,228 [policeman] It's Monday, September 4th, approximately 12:37. 17 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:47,899 A crime scene off of Bladen Road. Apparent double homicide. 18 00:01:57,492 --> 00:02:00,329 [man] And they were scared. The neighborhood, the community. 19 00:02:00,412 --> 00:02:03,133 They didn't know what was going on. We didn't know what was going on. 20 00:02:03,874 --> 00:02:06,627 [policeman] Somebody was found in a puddle behind the wrecker... 21 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:08,086 [camera shutters clicking] 22 00:02:08,170 --> 00:02:10,172 a white male in his 40s. 23 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:12,633 [man] Robert Van Allen. 24 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:15,210 - [man 2] Robert Van Allen? - [man 1] Robert Van Allen. 25 00:02:18,847 --> 00:02:21,475 Senseless waste of a life over $500. 26 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:24,686 [man, on recording] There's a second body on the other side... 27 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,524 an older gentleman maybe in his 50s or early 60s. 28 00:02:31,735 --> 00:02:34,780 We felt that this victim was a senseless death. 29 00:02:39,785 --> 00:02:42,346 [man] Then here come the rumors, you know, we got a killer loose. 30 00:02:42,871 --> 00:02:44,790 Don't know where he's at, who it is. 31 00:02:45,374 --> 00:02:47,668 Somebody thought it could have been a family member. 32 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:23,829 [man] Brantley County is one of the poorest counties 33 00:03:23,912 --> 00:03:25,038 in the state of Georgia. 34 00:03:26,248 --> 00:03:30,168 Lots of really good hardworking people, but just people scraping to get by. 35 00:03:33,130 --> 00:03:37,551 And this is the community where Lavelle Lynn made his money. 36 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:53,567 [woman] Like everybody, everybody's got an enemy here or there, 37 00:03:54,025 --> 00:03:55,569 but we never seen any of 'em. 38 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:58,697 He kept all the rigmarole away from us. 39 00:03:58,780 --> 00:03:59,990 [chuckles] 40 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:08,874 [Belinda] This is my dad here... at the zoo. 41 00:04:08,957 --> 00:04:10,917 We did everything together. 42 00:04:13,336 --> 00:04:15,130 Daddy was like the backbone of the family. 43 00:04:15,213 --> 00:04:16,840 He tried to make me like a peacemaker, 44 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:18,550 keep everybody close. 45 00:04:19,634 --> 00:04:21,511 He was a... He was a good man. 46 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:25,015 Some people didn't like him, 'cause he was strict and he was stern 47 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:30,395 and he was set in his ways, but he had a lot of friends, you know. 48 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:37,027 That morning Daddy got killed, we was all sitting around the table, 49 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:40,906 cutting up, joking with Daddy about the T-shirts that he brought home 50 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:42,310 with little funny sayings on 'em. 51 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:45,076 We was all having fun and joking. 52 00:04:47,037 --> 00:04:48,789 And then he got his phone call. 53 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:55,337 [man] At about 9:50 a.m., the day the murders occurred, 54 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:59,716 there was a telephone call placed, uh, to Lavelle Lynn's house. 55 00:05:00,509 --> 00:05:03,887 That call was placed from a, uh, convenience store... 56 00:05:04,888 --> 00:05:08,433 that's at the end of a road that intersects with the road 57 00:05:08,517 --> 00:05:11,603 that the crime scene was located on just a few miles away from it. 58 00:05:12,729 --> 00:05:14,689 [bells on door jingle] 59 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:18,085 [Belinda] So I answered the phone, you know, 60 00:05:18,109 --> 00:05:20,737 "Lavelle's Pool Hall, Eight Ball speaking." 61 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:22,781 You know, and he kinda snickered a little bit 62 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:24,825 and asked to speak to Lavelle. 63 00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:28,537 [Higgins] Lavelle Lynn had a wrecker service as such, 64 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:30,664 of... of picking up disabled cars. 65 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:36,294 [Belinda] And Daddy just kept repeating himself. 66 00:05:36,378 --> 00:05:38,380 "Where are y'all located at? Where are you at?" 67 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:41,299 "Bladen Road by the railroad tracks." 68 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:46,805 Daddy never took his truck off the road, the highway. 69 00:05:46,888 --> 00:05:50,934 He'd never go on dirt roads, but he went down there. 70 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:56,439 [Higgins] Lavelle Lynn was reputed to carry a large amount of cash. 71 00:05:57,566 --> 00:05:59,526 [Belinda] Daddy didn't believe in banks and stuff. 72 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:02,445 He was always cash only, you know. 73 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:05,073 He counted out $480, 74 00:06:05,156 --> 00:06:07,075 which was for the light bill and the phone bill. 75 00:06:07,158 --> 00:06:10,579 And he put the rest of his money in his little black pouch thing 76 00:06:11,037 --> 00:06:13,039 and had, uh, Robert to go put it up. 77 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:18,086 So that's all he had on him was light bill money and phone bill money. 78 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:23,883 And his bag of weed, of course. [chuckles] You know... 79 00:06:28,638 --> 00:06:30,239 [man] Is there money in the wallet, Tom? 80 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:35,312 [Tom] No. Well, yeah, a couple of... Well, yeah, I can't tell how much... 81 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,480 [man] It does contain money. Identification. 82 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:40,775 This victim could be identified as Robert Van Allen. 83 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:43,612 - How old, Tommy? - [Tom] Born in, uh, '58. 84 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:44,695 [man] Born in '58. 85 00:06:45,822 --> 00:06:51,536 [Belinda] Robert, he was Daddy's best friend/mechanic... 86 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:53,538 whatever needed to be done. 87 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:58,043 They never took nothing off of Robert. 88 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:01,296 He had jewelry on. His wallet, it was never touched. 89 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:09,554 The only things that was missing was Daddy's wallet and his money. 90 00:07:13,516 --> 00:07:17,479 Robert was laying on his back, hooking up to the cars when he got shot... 91 00:07:18,605 --> 00:07:20,440 with a .25 handgun. 92 00:07:23,902 --> 00:07:27,656 Daddy was shot once, between the eyes. 93 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:36,456 It was devastating, you know. Didn't understand why or who. 94 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:57,894 [woman] Um... 95 00:07:57,978 --> 00:07:58,978 Here, talk for me. 96 00:07:59,729 --> 00:08:02,983 - [man] All right. What do I need to say? - [woman] I'm just testing the sound. 97 00:08:05,944 --> 00:08:07,153 Oh. 98 00:08:15,245 --> 00:08:17,247 I just think I'm a scapegoat for this. 99 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:21,543 They needed a conviction. They got one. 100 00:08:23,378 --> 00:08:26,715 At the time of my uncle's murder, I was working two jobs. 101 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:30,844 I was working with Asplundh, and I was working at Walmart. 102 00:08:32,804 --> 00:08:34,347 I was doing okay. 103 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:39,019 Were we having financial difficulties? 104 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:43,523 I mean, we were struggling. But you know what? We were happy. 105 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,922 I mean, of course, at the time, I would have never thought 106 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:52,866 that I would be considered a suspect in a double homicide. 107 00:08:54,451 --> 00:08:57,120 I was more concerned about losing my job 108 00:08:57,203 --> 00:09:00,832 than what I was, being arrested for two counts of murder. 109 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:07,422 [Belinda] Did he do it? You know. That was his uncle, you know. 110 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,841 Why? 111 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:12,778 When he'd have done anything in the world for him. 112 00:09:12,802 --> 00:09:14,095 All he had to do was ask. 113 00:09:19,309 --> 00:09:23,480 Oh, my Lord. We got calls just as I have no idea where to begin. 114 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:26,024 There were so many callers coming in left and right. 115 00:09:29,486 --> 00:09:30,945 During the investigation, 116 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:34,532 we had talked to the family and I'd advised everybody, 117 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:36,510 you know, "If you all see anything out of the ordinary, 118 00:09:36,534 --> 00:09:39,746 or anything suspicious, please call. Don't care when it is," you know. 119 00:09:40,455 --> 00:09:41,766 Everybody was pointing their fingers. 120 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:43,267 "So and so done it. So and so done it. 121 00:09:43,291 --> 00:09:46,091 This wrecker driver done it. This person done it. The sheriff done it." 122 00:09:46,294 --> 00:09:48,588 My name was even mentioned, you know, at one time. 123 00:09:48,671 --> 00:09:52,175 Boy, there was so much smoke down there in all directions. 124 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:58,515 At that point, I'd been a criminal defense lawyer for 12 or 13 years. 125 00:09:59,099 --> 00:10:01,101 I've dealt with a lot of murder cases. 126 00:10:01,184 --> 00:10:03,913 I have never dealt with a case where there have been that many suspects, 127 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:07,816 potential suspects, um, called in or mentioned. 128 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:14,280 Lavelle was quite a colorful character who liked to gamble on drag racing 129 00:10:14,364 --> 00:10:16,658 and had a history with selling pot. 130 00:10:17,909 --> 00:10:21,871 And he was just a... a man who knew all the people in the community 131 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:23,206 who were taking shortcuts. 132 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,250 Yeah, he knew a lotta people. 133 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:29,129 He bought cars all over the place from all kinda auto sales places. 134 00:10:29,212 --> 00:10:31,798 Yeah, Lavelle knew people, definitely knew people. 135 00:10:37,262 --> 00:10:39,222 I mean, he'd go to every car lot around here. 136 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:42,642 We'd go from here to Savannah and buy cars from 'em 137 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:44,394 and buy all their used cars. 138 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:46,771 He'd bring them back to his place 139 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:50,859 and he'd park them out and sell parts off of them. 140 00:10:54,404 --> 00:10:55,864 [Belinda] Junk cars everywhere. 141 00:10:57,073 --> 00:11:02,036 From the dirt road to the tree lines, there was nothing but cars everywhere. 142 00:11:06,875 --> 00:11:09,627 [Whorton] He had shady ways of making money, you know what I mean? 143 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:12,338 And everybody thought it, knew it. I mean, I never seen it. 144 00:11:12,422 --> 00:11:15,842 But I always thought he did. It's an assumption, you know what I mean? 145 00:11:15,925 --> 00:11:18,970 And I didn't look at him that way. I looked at him as the parts man. 146 00:11:19,053 --> 00:11:21,014 We making money. [laughs] You know what I mean? 147 00:11:21,097 --> 00:11:24,601 So I don't care what he does. I didn't care if he sold dope or what. 148 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:27,395 It doesn't matter to me. That's his business, you know? 149 00:11:27,478 --> 00:11:29,981 I just liked the idea that me and him made money off the cars. 150 00:11:33,484 --> 00:11:36,195 [Adams] I recall we had well over 35 names 151 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:40,658 that were presented as potential people who might be good for this double murder. 152 00:11:41,951 --> 00:11:44,329 The thought was there could have been a retaliation 153 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:46,873 or that Lavelle had gotten back into drug dealing. 154 00:11:47,457 --> 00:11:50,084 And so there were lots and lots of potential suspects. 155 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:56,257 [Belinda] Maybe Daddy might have seen a little too much. I don't know. 156 00:11:57,091 --> 00:12:00,553 There are some things that we don't know, you know? 157 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:01,971 I mean, he didn't ever tell Mama. 158 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,765 The only thing he'd ever tell Mama is, 159 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,769 you know, "The less you know, the better off you are." 160 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:14,817 [Higgins] Two individuals were seen there by the wrecker, 161 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:18,029 uh, by witnesses after the... The crime had occurred. 162 00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:25,036 [Adams] The description of these two people. 163 00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:27,080 He did describe a white male. 164 00:12:27,163 --> 00:12:29,916 Well, in Brantley County, that's all they have. 165 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:32,794 [chuckles] There are no African-Americans. There are no Latinos. 166 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:34,087 They had a drawing out 167 00:12:34,170 --> 00:12:37,507 of what the person supposedly looked like two days after the murder. 168 00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:42,887 Back then, the sketch drawing kinda looked like me. 169 00:12:43,721 --> 00:12:48,309 And so I was pulled into the station and then questioned for 72 hours. 170 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:00,905 We buried Lavelle and Robert. 171 00:13:01,739 --> 00:13:04,367 And the day of his funeral, I walked through the crowd. 172 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:07,203 You wouldn't have believed the people that were looking at me 173 00:13:07,286 --> 00:13:08,746 when I was walking up. 174 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:11,916 You know, and I'm looking at them thinking they looking at me like I did this. 175 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,793 And I'm looking through the crowd at them, 176 00:13:13,876 --> 00:13:16,504 trying to figure out which one of them might have done it. 177 00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:20,299 There were so many people that would do so much wrong 178 00:13:20,383 --> 00:13:23,720 that actually hung out with Lavelle that it could have been any of 'em. 179 00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:36,542 [woman] Well, at the funeral... 180 00:13:36,566 --> 00:13:39,606 - Buddy went to the funeral, right? - [woman 2] Yeah, we went to the funeral. 181 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:43,197 And, Buddy, he was so upset. 182 00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:49,579 And... I'd just be there for him, you know, the best I could. 183 00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:55,668 'Cause Buddy was close to his uncle. 184 00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:58,379 I mean, he wasn't close to the rest of his uncles 185 00:13:58,463 --> 00:14:01,007 but he was close, yeah, to Lavelle. 186 00:14:01,591 --> 00:14:03,551 So he was grieving for his uncle... 187 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:06,429 and Lavelle's kids, 188 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:08,890 'cause we all went to school together. 189 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:12,393 I felt really sorry for his kids, 190 00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:15,063 'cause they had lost their daddy, you know. 191 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:20,234 I felt so sorry for their mama... 192 00:14:22,487 --> 00:14:24,113 'cause she'd lost her husband. 193 00:14:25,281 --> 00:14:27,784 And I couldn't imagine going through that. 194 00:14:28,409 --> 00:14:30,090 Didn't want to imagine going through that. 195 00:14:31,746 --> 00:14:35,333 [Adams] There had been a six-month investigation of this double homicide 196 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:37,085 with no solid leads. 197 00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:41,005 They'd eliminated a... a couple of people as potential suspects 198 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:43,758 but they'd not gotten very far down that list. 199 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,804 And then Buddy's name came to 'em in early March. 200 00:15:00,566 --> 00:15:04,112 [Buddy, on telephone] The only thing that connects me to this case to begin with, 201 00:15:04,695 --> 00:15:07,573 is being at that freaking store at the time. 202 00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:16,165 [Adams] Paige's Mini-Mart is on this U.S. highway, 203 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,501 a little gas station with a lot of pumps. 204 00:15:19,669 --> 00:15:21,045 Everybody goes there. 205 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:23,881 It's really the crossroads of that community. 206 00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:27,760 Buddy went there all the time. Lavelle went there all the time. 207 00:15:27,844 --> 00:15:31,347 Many of these other 36 suspects went there, 208 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,391 frequented that place all the time. 209 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:34,474 [white noise static] 210 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,521 [Adams] Buddy had been there on the day of the homicide. 211 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:41,315 He... He appears to be clearly in the video. 212 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:47,822 And from Paige's, a call was made to get Lavelle Lynn to leave his house. 213 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:54,287 [Buddy, on telephone] I get up that morning and I go to Auto Zone 214 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:58,082 over in Brunswick to get a starter for my Jeep. 215 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:02,378 On my way back from Brunswick, I had to use the restroom. 216 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,462 That's all. 217 00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:05,214 [bells on door jingle] 218 00:16:06,549 --> 00:16:11,804 [Buddy] I stop at the store, go in, use the restroom, leave. 219 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:17,393 And then I go to come back in to buy some cigarettes. 220 00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:22,273 [Kristy] Went to go back in to get him a pack of cigarettes, line was too long. 221 00:16:22,356 --> 00:16:24,901 He come back out, got in the car and left. 222 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:29,780 [Buddy, on telephone] Six minutes after I leave the store, 223 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:36,412 an alleged phone call is made from that store that lured my uncle 224 00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:39,707 and Robert out to where they were shot and killed. 225 00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:45,838 I just wish I could have, you know, picked up on the voice sooner. 226 00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:47,965 You know, there was... I ain't never heard of him. 227 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:51,552 He was soft spoken, uh, when he asked to speak to Lavelle. 228 00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:56,682 You know, it wasn't Buddy, 'cause Buddy has got this, uh, manly, straggly voice. 229 00:17:00,978 --> 00:17:04,106 [Higgins] The video surveillance showed, uh, Mr. Woodall 230 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:06,901 beginning at 9:47 a.m. 231 00:17:09,487 --> 00:17:11,989 And then ending at 9:50 a.m., 232 00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:15,076 about the time that the call would have been made. 233 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,415 There was no video outside of the store 234 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:24,252 where the payphones would have been located. 235 00:17:24,335 --> 00:17:26,175 When you're looking at that surveillance video, 236 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:28,589 the pay phones would be to the right of the frame. 237 00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:33,886 So, you have him leaving the store, walking in the direction of the phones. 238 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,473 And then the car that's seen passing 239 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:40,393 in front of the Mini-Mart outside of the Mini-Mart... 240 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:44,397 that's consistent with his car leaving from that same direction. 241 00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,777 It's entirely possible that the other suspect is the one 242 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:52,238 who was making the telephone call. 243 00:17:52,321 --> 00:17:55,616 But this puts Mr. Woodall at the convenience store 244 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,743 at the time that the call was placed. 245 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:12,758 All the evidence we collected, we feel like, 246 00:18:12,842 --> 00:18:17,930 led to the... solving of the case. 247 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:23,144 Glenn County P.D. worked the crime scene. 248 00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:26,522 They went out and collected the, uh, shell casings. 249 00:18:29,525 --> 00:18:33,863 There were three shell casings fired from a semi-automatic handgun... 250 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:37,491 found at the scene, close to the body of Robert Van Allen. 251 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:44,707 They had compared those with some spent .25 caliber shell casings 252 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:48,377 from behind Buddy Woodall's parents' house... 253 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:50,713 and they were a match. 254 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,093 [Adams] The shell casings weren't definitively fired by the same weapon. 255 00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:58,257 And, ultimately, the weapon had never been recovered. 256 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:06,812 When the police focused in on Buddy, they had largely circumstantial evidence. 257 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:09,774 They had multiple hearsay statements 258 00:19:09,857 --> 00:19:14,528 that Buddy's brother-in-law and Buddy had sort of talked about this incident 259 00:19:14,612 --> 00:19:17,490 or they'd heard from others that Buddy sort of talked about it. 260 00:19:18,199 --> 00:19:20,117 I'd never heard him say his uncle. 261 00:19:21,535 --> 00:19:22,870 I remember Buddy telling me 262 00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:25,414 what he thought he would do if he had to knock somebody off. 263 00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:27,708 He'd get 'em out somewhere in the woods somewhere... 264 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:30,419 and he'd get 'em to come to him and do 'em in. 265 00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:32,797 That just lined up too good for me. 266 00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:36,467 [Adams] They had... 267 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:40,179 tire track markings that didn't prove Buddy's car was there. 268 00:19:40,262 --> 00:19:43,808 But it was consistent with the Goodyear tires that Buddy had. 269 00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:49,021 I mean, some of this really started to feel like, um, My Cousin Vinny, you know, 270 00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:52,775 with sort of circumstantial evidence that really could be read both ways. 271 00:19:54,318 --> 00:19:56,445 Buddy didn't look anything like the sketch. 272 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,739 Buddy has never had that much hair. 273 00:19:58,823 --> 00:20:00,700 And certainly not hair that stood up. 274 00:20:01,742 --> 00:20:03,494 Buddy was at Paige's Mini-Mart 275 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:06,580 sometime around when the call was made to Lavelle. 276 00:20:06,664 --> 00:20:08,082 And that's... that's true. 277 00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:12,253 But in that little window of time, so were about 50 other people. 278 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,593 There was certainly significantly more evidence 279 00:20:19,677 --> 00:20:22,304 pointing to all these other sources than there had been to Buddy. 280 00:20:23,097 --> 00:20:26,642 But the Glynn County detectives didn't look for that link. 281 00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:29,729 All their investigation was to show Buddy did it 282 00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:33,315 and not, in any way, to... To more fully look for other suspects. 283 00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:46,746 After he got off from work that evening, he come by my house. 284 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:49,206 I was sitting right out there on that back porch, 285 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:52,418 and, uh, he told me what was going on. 286 00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:55,129 I... I didn't know it. I didn't know... 287 00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:56,839 [sniffles] 288 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:57,922 [voice cracks] Excuse me. 289 00:20:59,049 --> 00:21:02,595 I didn't know that he was a suspect in any way. 290 00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:08,809 He told me they had, uh, questioned him about it. 291 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:11,979 He said he was not guilty, and he was scared. 292 00:21:13,731 --> 00:21:18,277 I told him. I said, "Buddy, you tell them you have nothing to say, 293 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,655 that you want a lawyer, and you cannot afford a lawyer. 294 00:21:21,739 --> 00:21:26,410 Do not talk to them by yourself, not one more time." 295 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,329 [police dispatch, indistinct] 296 00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:31,874 [Wheatly] The next day, they came by when he got off from work. 297 00:21:32,374 --> 00:21:34,735 [Buddy, on telephone] When I got home about 6:30 that night, 298 00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:38,714 Walt Vaneer and Jay Wiggins gets out of the car. 299 00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:43,344 "We want to ask you some questions about, um, your uncle's murder." 300 00:21:44,887 --> 00:21:47,488 [Kristy] They had told me all they wanted to do was talk to Buddy. 301 00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:51,185 And not to worry about it, that he would be home. 302 00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:55,648 So I took 'em... I took 'em at their word. 303 00:21:57,107 --> 00:21:58,317 They were police officers. 304 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,285 [Kristy] He'd been up for so long. 305 00:22:10,287 --> 00:22:13,958 He'd been drinking. He took some of his grandmother's Xanax. 306 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,294 [Adams] They had him there for several hours. 307 00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:19,421 And it was only after they were able 308 00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:22,383 to get Buddy to place himself at the scene, 309 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:24,009 did they turn on the video camera. 310 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,098 So somewhere nine to ten hours into the interrogation process, 311 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:33,102 they turned on a video recorder that they had available the entire time. 312 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,354 [white noise static] 313 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,652 [man] You got a... a lawyer? 314 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,071 [man 2] You're... you're already... 315 00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:46,949 You have... 316 00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:51,370 You got it set in your mind that I'm a murderer. 317 00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:52,574 [man 1] What do you call it? 318 00:22:54,123 --> 00:22:57,167 Tindale comes in. I mean, he's aggressive. 319 00:22:57,251 --> 00:22:59,295 You are trying to... 320 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,481 [Tindale] What am I trying to do? What am I trying to do? 321 00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:03,674 You're trying to say stuff that I did not say. 322 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:04,757 [Tindale] You did say it. 323 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,385 - I said David. - Okay. 324 00:23:06,468 --> 00:23:07,469 Not my uncle. 325 00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:11,473 [Buddy] They had asked me, "Did anyone use your wife's car that day?" 326 00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:14,226 I said, "Davey was going to use it." 327 00:23:15,144 --> 00:23:18,731 They said, "Hold on. Stop, stop, stop. Who's Davey?" 328 00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:20,816 I said, "He's my brother-in-law. 329 00:23:21,317 --> 00:23:24,278 His name's David Wimberly. You know, we call him Davey." 330 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:29,867 Their whole story was 331 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:33,412 he was the one that shot and killed my uncle and Robert 332 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,832 and I was the one that was supposed to have been there 333 00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:38,334 and witnessed all of this. 334 00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:44,214 They said, "If you will say that Davey is the one that shot and killed them... 335 00:23:46,175 --> 00:23:47,176 we'll let you go." 336 00:23:49,053 --> 00:23:50,572 [Adams] They talked to him for a few hours 337 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,349 and they decided that they wanted to do some testing. 338 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:57,770 And they used a tool called the Computer Voice Stress Analyzer, 339 00:23:57,853 --> 00:24:00,439 which, as far as I can tell, is hocus-pocus. 340 00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:03,859 But they used this as an investigative tool. 341 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:12,868 [Higgins] CVSA analyzes your voice. They're not admissible in court. 342 00:24:12,951 --> 00:24:16,121 They're not... not deemed to be scientifically reliable. 343 00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,833 But it is something, just as polygraph examinations are... 344 00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:24,880 Are used by law enforcement agencies, uh, as an investigative tool. 345 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:29,802 And they do rely upon them, regardless upon admissibility in court. 346 00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:36,767 [Buddy] They asked me two questions pertaining to the shootings. 347 00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:42,022 Was I there? Did I shoot and kill anyone? 348 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,612 Jay Wiggins says that I was being honest 349 00:24:48,696 --> 00:24:53,075 about not shooting my uncle or Robert. 350 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:58,789 But I was supposedly being deceitful 351 00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:02,292 about being present at the scene of the crime. 352 00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:11,301 I had refused for so long the story that they wanted me to say. 353 00:25:12,094 --> 00:25:13,804 I knew it was a lie. 354 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:15,514 [sniffles] 355 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:26,817 [Adams] So the detectives put him in the situation after hours of thinking, 356 00:25:27,401 --> 00:25:29,695 "Even though I'm innocent, I have no way out." 357 00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:37,870 [Buddy] I went to Brunswick that morning, like I told y'all. [sniffles] 358 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,374 I did see Davey. 359 00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:49,631 He stopped me and asked me if I would help him do something. 360 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,135 [man] Did he elaborate on what you say he wanted? 361 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,779 [Buddy] He didn't elaborate on nothing. 362 00:25:56,013 --> 00:26:00,225 So we get in Kristy's car and drive down Bladen... 363 00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:04,813 down to where it forks at. 364 00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:08,233 And he takes me to the very end... 365 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:13,989 gave me a little .22 Dillinger, Derringer... 366 00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:16,325 a little two shot .22. 367 00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:22,372 He goes, "If you see any cops or anything, fire two shots in the air." 368 00:26:22,873 --> 00:26:25,000 Then he left, turned around and went back. 369 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:27,503 - [man] Driving...? - Kristy's car. 370 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,464 - Left you standing out there? - As the watch. 371 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:36,345 [Buddy, on phone] When I told them that story, that was a lie. 372 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,475 I just wanted it to end. I just wanted to go home. 373 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:45,729 I remember seeing a bunch of people down there on the bridge fishing. 374 00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:49,441 I remember shooting at a snake. 375 00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:54,154 [Buddy, on phone] I believed in my heart that they had just made a mistake. 376 00:26:54,238 --> 00:26:56,156 And I felt like if... if... 377 00:26:57,741 --> 00:27:01,537 I gave them what they wanted, that it would end for me. 378 00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:08,001 That they would forget about me and, you know, and just let all this end. 379 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588 Hell, I thought it was over. 380 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,299 So he places himself at the scene. 381 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760 And once they did that, they tried the next step. 382 00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,721 They used every technique. 383 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:23,892 They moved the desk to the side, so that they could really get in there. 384 00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:26,812 And they were leaning in and putting a hand on his knee 385 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,188 and whispering to Buddy. 386 00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:30,858 [man] You sure you didn't hear the shot? 387 00:27:31,358 --> 00:27:33,402 'Cause people heard some shots. 388 00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:35,246 You should've heard it where you're standing. 389 00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:39,491 If these pressure techniques are put on us for a certain amount of time, 390 00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:42,703 it might take you a week, it might take me an hour, 391 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:46,373 but we're all gonna have our breaking point where we give up 392 00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,293 when you have a skilled interrogator on the other side of the table. 393 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:57,217 You notice we, um, never did talk with you anymore about, uh, the witnesses. 394 00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:00,280 I didn't say nothing about that to you. 395 00:28:00,304 --> 00:28:03,307 I didn't say anything else, because I saw you blocking the stuff out. 396 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:09,187 I can tell you right here, right now... 397 00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:12,524 I picked you out a second past ten minutes. 398 00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:17,821 So it... it's possible that you're blocking that out. 399 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,866 Putting yourself down the road where you wanted to be. 400 00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,117 We gotta redo that. 401 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:29,833 [man] Buddy, I think the two hardest things in the world for you is... 402 00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:35,172 you were involved in your uncle's death. 403 00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:36,798 You didn't shoot your uncle. 404 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,635 I don't think you meant for it to, but it happened. 405 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:42,679 [man 2] You notice how it came to you today? Or tonight? 406 00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:46,767 [man 1] When it all started coming to you a little bit, it was like... 407 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:49,561 It was like having the... the shades pulled back, wasn't it? 408 00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:53,148 Like lightning, maybe. 409 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:56,276 There's more light to come in. 410 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,789 [man 1] You notice we haven't fingerprinted you. 411 00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:08,997 You interested why we haven't? 412 00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:13,259 'Cause it's gonna tell me what I already know. 413 00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:16,380 We have partial prints on casings. 414 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,133 Why do that? Why? What's that gonna show me any more than I know now? 415 00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:24,721 You're taking yourself to where you didn't wanna be 416 00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:26,390 or where you wanted to be in your mind. 417 00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:35,941 Earlier, you said it wasn't possible you were on Bladen Road. You remember? 418 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,568 You said, "It wasn't... I wasn't on Bladen Road." 419 00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,906 Then your mind opened up a little bit, didn't it? 420 00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:46,285 And when it opened up, you realized not only is it possible, 421 00:29:46,368 --> 00:29:49,121 but "I was there on Bladen Road." 422 00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:59,381 You don't remember hollering, "No!" or "Stop." 423 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:01,216 or "What are you doing?" 424 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:07,014 You don't remember him pointing the gun in your direction? 425 00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:16,982 Tell me about the snake. Maybe that'll help. 426 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:19,043 - Tell me about the snake. - [Buddy] It was a little... 427 00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:21,570 A little bitty ground rattler. 428 00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:24,614 - [man 1] So you shot it how many times? - [Buddy] No, I shot at it once. 429 00:30:24,698 --> 00:30:26,783 I missed a bit, and he was gone. 430 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,329 [man 1] I think that that snake you're seeing... 431 00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:34,166 is your opinion maybe of... of Davey. 432 00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:39,963 You have a good foundation in the church, don't you? 433 00:30:40,047 --> 00:30:41,089 [Buddy] Mm-hmm. 434 00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:46,428 [man 1] You see something evil in your life, and you try to block it out. 435 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:49,306 But it's so evil that you can't block it out completely, 436 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:51,391 so you have to replace it with something else. 437 00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:55,145 What you replaced it with was that snake. 438 00:30:58,273 --> 00:30:59,983 And you said yourself you couldn't hit it. 439 00:31:00,901 --> 00:31:03,070 And what that's telling you is you couldn't stop it. 440 00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:05,113 Does it make sense now? 441 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,326 [Buddy] I didn't shoot my uncle. 442 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,661 [man 1] I know you didn't. I know you didn't. 443 00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:14,057 - [Buddy] I didn't shoot Robert. - I know you didn't. 444 00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:15,874 But I think you sat there and watched. 445 00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:18,627 And I think that's something that your mind just couldn't handle. 446 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:25,717 I just... 447 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:31,390 [Buddy] I wish I could just close my eyes and... 448 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,519 [man 2] The walls are crumbling down, Buddy. 449 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:42,293 [man 1] You couldn't stop him, could you? 450 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:43,985 [Buddy] I can't make you understand. 451 00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:50,117 [man 1] You couldn't stop the snake, and nobody blames you, okay? 452 00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:55,705 Now, you're not... It was the other guy deep in your mind, right? 453 00:31:56,665 --> 00:31:58,500 Your mind is coming around. Okay? 454 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:01,169 - Just open it up. Open it up. - [sobbing] 455 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,671 Your mind is coming around. 456 00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:04,506 Think about that snake. 457 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,384 You see what it really is. 458 00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:12,180 See the horrible act that you already saw. You gotta open the door. 459 00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:15,267 Tell me if you don't see that. 460 00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:22,732 [man 2] Buddy? 461 00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:28,822 It's a dead end, it's time right now. Let's do this. 462 00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:33,243 You can't go on. Look at me. You can't go on. 463 00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:37,956 I can go no further. Let's go. Let's go right now. 464 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:44,379 Say it. If you gotta keep your eyes closed while you say it, say it. 465 00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:48,675 [Buddy] Yes, I would. 466 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,012 I mean, I don't know... 467 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:55,533 - Say it, and you're done with it, Buddy. - [man 1] You'll have the best sleep 468 00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,351 you've ever had in the last six, eight months. 469 00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,436 [man 2] Buddy? 470 00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:02,814 Say it, and you're done with it. 471 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:15,076 He told 'em what they wanted to hear. 472 00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:22,125 So he said they kept telling him, "Just tell us what we want to hear. 473 00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:23,919 Just tell us what we want to hear. 474 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:27,631 You'll be able to go home to your wife and sons." 475 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,719 And he told 'em what they wanted to hear after a while. 476 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,974 [Buddy] I remember Robert being in the front of the car. 477 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:42,145 I heard a single gunshot... 478 00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:44,356 [sniffling] 479 00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:47,567 from the back of the car. 480 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:51,446 [Higgins] Buddy Woodall's statement he ultimately made was that, 481 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,199 he was there but he did not shoot anybody. 482 00:33:56,326 --> 00:33:59,996 [Adams] No lawyer worth their salt would have allowed him to endure that. 483 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,892 And they would have never had enough to arrest Buddy Woodall for this crime. 484 00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:06,127 And maybe they would have investigated the other people 485 00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:09,756 that they stopped investigating the moment they focused in on Buddy. 486 00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,635 [man 1] Sit back, close your eyes and relax a bit, all right? 487 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,887 And enjoy the release of this, okay? 488 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:21,059 [Buddy] Do I get to go home? 489 00:34:22,102 --> 00:34:24,437 [man 1, sighs] I don't see why not. 490 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,898 [door opens] 491 00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:31,152 [sobs and sighs] 492 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:32,404 Oh, dear God. 493 00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:46,001 [sniffling, sobbing] 494 00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:50,996 [Buddy, on phone] I have no... 495 00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:57,095 I don't know. I wanted out. 496 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:02,267 I seen a way out or I thought I seen a way out. 497 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:03,393 And... 498 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:09,316 I guess you could say I took a coward's way out. 499 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:14,904 I regret that. I do. 500 00:35:20,577 --> 00:35:24,372 Buddy sat in jail for five years before we even went to court. 501 00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:29,753 I was left with three kids to raise on my own. 502 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,464 I thought he was coming home. 503 00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:35,050 Everybody thought he was coming home. 504 00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:55,028 The prosecution had a largely circumstantial case with a confession. 505 00:35:57,113 --> 00:36:00,617 The confession was their best piece of evidence. 506 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,871 Seventy to 75 percent of which was not recorded at all, 507 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,831 even though they had a recording device there 508 00:36:06,915 --> 00:36:09,084 and all they had to do was press "On." 509 00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:15,465 We had one of the nation's best experts onboard to come down and explain 510 00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:18,301 this really difficult phenomenon of false confession. 511 00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:21,846 Like why would a person confess to a crime they didn't do? 512 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,724 If they're not beaten and if they're not intellectually disabled. 513 00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:28,228 But, a few months before our case went to trial, 514 00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:30,021 the Georgia Supreme Court 515 00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:32,732 said that false confession experts aren't allowed in Georgia. 516 00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:34,025 And that crushed us. 517 00:36:35,735 --> 00:36:38,238 [Kristy] When they said that he was guilty, I just... 518 00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:41,783 [sighs] 519 00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:43,743 said, "Oh, God." 520 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:47,747 I about had a nervous breakdown that day. 521 00:36:48,957 --> 00:36:53,086 I don't know how they come to the conclusion of it, honestly. 522 00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:00,885 [Wheatly] I was in court every day they had court. 523 00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:04,431 I sat there for the entirety of it. 524 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,643 I just didn't feel like it was a... a fair thing. 525 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:12,564 They did not prove beyond any reasonable doubt 526 00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:15,984 that he was guilty of what he was charged with. 527 00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:20,321 The only thing they had was a... a confession of sorts. 528 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:21,948 That's what convicted him. 529 00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:23,658 If that hadn't have been there, 530 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,286 I'm not sure that he wouldn't have been found innocent. 531 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:30,349 [Adams] When we went to the sentencing phase of this capital trial, 532 00:37:30,373 --> 00:37:32,208 there were three options in Georgia, 533 00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:35,044 life with parole, life without parole or the death penalty. 534 00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:38,506 Nobody ever gets life with parole. It just doesn't happen. 535 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:42,927 In Buddy's case, the jury came back with life with parole. 536 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,972 Unheard of. Unheard of in Georgia. 537 00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:51,227 I think that's a reflection on... on nagging feelings 538 00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:55,648 about the level of proof against Buddy in the first part of the trial. 539 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:02,947 Justice missed its mark in this case. 540 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,453 Six months or so after trial, I got a call one day and it said, 541 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:10,079 "You're not gonna believe this. 542 00:38:10,163 --> 00:38:13,708 David Wimberly walked out of jail. He's free." 543 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,337 I said, "What?" And they said, "Yeah, they dropped all charges on him." 544 00:38:18,922 --> 00:38:21,549 And so, without that videotaped confession, 545 00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:25,178 they just didn't have enough case on him and they dropped charges. 546 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,388 That says everything. 547 00:38:31,893 --> 00:38:33,728 [Belinda] All of those questions like... 548 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:38,024 Did they make Buddy take the rap for it? 549 00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,276 Or, you know, if you're gonna admit to being there... 550 00:38:42,237 --> 00:38:45,532 and did not pull a trigger, then who did? 551 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:49,911 Daddy was a good person, you know? 552 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:55,041 Sometimes, you can smell him in the air, you know? 553 00:38:56,084 --> 00:38:57,836 Especially down there... [chuckles] 554 00:38:59,587 --> 00:39:01,297 where he used to sit all the time. 555 00:39:17,146 --> 00:39:19,858 [Kristy] We've had a lot happen to, you know, our family. 556 00:39:19,941 --> 00:39:22,944 16 years going through this. 557 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:30,743 Unless a person's really been through it, you... you really don't know. 558 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,540 But it's just like you have to take it one day at a time. 559 00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:41,963 And... you gotta have faith, I mean... 560 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:48,386 Jason... Jason handled it through eating. 561 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:51,514 He never really talked about his feelings a lot. 562 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:57,186 He was almost 200 pounds at ten years old. 563 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:02,025 My little boy will be a year old. We'll see. 564 00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:04,152 - This month. - Seventeenth. 565 00:40:04,986 --> 00:40:06,446 At times, I really... 566 00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:09,073 I really feel like he thinks that we forgot about him, 567 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,076 especially because we used to go see him every week. 568 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,080 And now, we have our own families and, you know, 569 00:40:16,164 --> 00:40:18,666 so we don't get to go see him as much as we would like to. 570 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,210 I don't even think I've been at all this year. 571 00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:23,230 - It's been a while. - You know, it's terrible too, 572 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:28,927 'cause... I think there's chances I could have gone and I haven't. 573 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:46,503 [Adams] A lot of judges like to tell jurors 574 00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,696 we have the best criminal justice system in the world. 575 00:40:49,739 --> 00:40:50,782 Maybe we do. 576 00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:57,038 But at the end of the day, it's only as good as law enforcement is fair, 577 00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:02,293 as the defense lawyer is skilled, as the jurors are open-minded 578 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:04,712 and as good as the experts 579 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:06,756 and the testimony you're allowed to put up. 580 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:11,552 And even then, it's a human endeavor. 50268

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