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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,723 --> 00:00:17,183 [detective] Now, tell me the truth. Isn't it true... 2 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:21,604 or is it true that you went in that garage and saw what was going on? 3 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:22,897 Isn't that the truth? 4 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,733 No, I swear to God. No. 5 00:00:24,816 --> 00:00:25,984 I didn't go in there. 6 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:36,703 [detective] I want you to... tell me if you recognize... 7 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:42,709 each person in these photographs and what that person did in this crime. 8 00:00:42,792 --> 00:00:46,337 What part they played? Start right here. 9 00:00:46,421 --> 00:00:47,881 [clears throat] 10 00:00:54,095 --> 00:00:55,889 [detective] Is there anything else you want to add to this 11 00:00:55,972 --> 00:00:57,348 that you have not told us? 12 00:00:57,432 --> 00:01:00,477 I didn't have anything to do with it and I don't want it all to fall down on me 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,978 if they saying I did it. 14 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:09,402 I just want this thing to get over with so I can live my life like a free man. 15 00:01:27,378 --> 00:01:30,298 This crime rocked the 8th and H Street neighborhood. 16 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:34,803 I've had many people tell me that on a certain level, it still does. 17 00:01:34,886 --> 00:01:38,306 [newscaster] The gruesome discovery was made in a rain-soaked alley 18 00:01:38,389 --> 00:01:44,479 in the 800 block of H Street Northeast, an alley where junkies go to use drugs. 19 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:50,318 Inside a vacant dilapidated brick garage, the partly nude body of a young woman. 20 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:58,618 [man] This is not usually what goes on around this area. It was crazy. 21 00:01:58,701 --> 00:02:00,370 Everybody was curious and furious. 22 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:02,455 [newscaster] The victim has been identified 23 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:06,334 as 48-year-old Catherine Fuller, of K Street Northeast. 24 00:02:06,417 --> 00:02:09,129 She had been sexually assaulted and beaten to death. 25 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,925 [man] The detectives looked at this crime scene 26 00:02:14,008 --> 00:02:15,760 and the horrible circumstances of her death. 27 00:02:16,803 --> 00:02:21,141 And I think they had this immediate idea a group must've done this. 28 00:02:24,394 --> 00:02:27,063 [man 2] It's the first time ever in history that 29 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:29,315 that many people were charged for one murder 30 00:02:29,399 --> 00:02:33,278 of one person, without it being a conspiracy. 31 00:02:51,212 --> 00:02:55,466 You had to realize how the system worked in D.C. back in the '80s and '90s. 32 00:02:57,468 --> 00:03:01,681 Back then, we had so many people getting killed in D.C. 33 00:03:03,099 --> 00:03:06,060 We were number one murder capital of the United States. 34 00:03:07,812 --> 00:03:13,026 The homicide unit, it was 30 detectives and we had one too many cases. 35 00:03:15,945 --> 00:03:19,032 This was a very brutal crime. 36 00:03:19,115 --> 00:03:21,993 I mean, I handle lots and lots of cases, 37 00:03:22,076 --> 00:03:26,873 and this, one of the three gross crimes that I've ever seen. 38 00:03:30,335 --> 00:03:34,255 Once they opened that body, you could see the damage they caused. 39 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,383 The pole that they put... 40 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:40,678 in her body all the way up. 41 00:03:43,014 --> 00:03:44,307 This was too much. 42 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:49,729 It's kind of difficult to believe that... 43 00:03:49,812 --> 00:03:53,524 a human being will inflict so much pain... 44 00:03:54,567 --> 00:04:00,281 and... so much brutality towards another human being. 45 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:04,786 [detective] This afternoon, homicide detectives returned to the alley, 46 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:07,288 looking for evidence and talking with people 47 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:08,873 who may have seen something. 48 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,130 [man] At approximately 4:30 p.m. on the day of the murder... 49 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:19,676 ...Mrs. Fuller left to go shopping. 50 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:23,554 That's the best we know from the testimony of her husband and her son. 51 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:29,894 Mrs. Fuller was 48 years old. She was small. 52 00:04:29,978 --> 00:04:32,689 She was 99 pounds. 53 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:35,858 She wasn't much taller than five feet tall. 54 00:04:35,942 --> 00:04:40,738 She was a woman who took care of six kids and a husband who was on disability. 55 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:47,412 The forensic evidence is that she was beaten up 56 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:49,205 on the 9th Street side of the alley. 57 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:52,959 The alley runs parallel to 8th Street. 58 00:04:56,546 --> 00:05:01,592 Some of her possessions were found in that 9th Street portion of the alley. 59 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:03,886 And the perpetrator who decided to assault her 60 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:09,100 dragged her body from that 9th Street side of the alley into the garage. 61 00:05:09,183 --> 00:05:11,769 And based on the autopsy, 62 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:16,649 some lengthy object had to be used to commit the sodomy. 63 00:05:23,031 --> 00:05:25,908 [man] Departments are judged on their crime rates, 64 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:29,037 especially on their homicide crime rates. 65 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,999 If you have a high homicide rate, you need to do something. 66 00:05:33,082 --> 00:05:37,045 You need to bring it down. And you need to show a high closure rate. 67 00:05:38,963 --> 00:05:41,758 The pressure's on you and you want to close it. 68 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:43,843 You want to close it quick. 69 00:05:43,926 --> 00:05:48,306 About six o'clock, a lady walking through the alley discovered the... 70 00:05:48,389 --> 00:05:51,893 partially clothed body of an adult female. 71 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:55,354 On the night of the murder, somebody left an anonymous tip for the cops 72 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:57,607 at I want to say, 2:30 in the morning, 73 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:00,610 saying that there was this group called the 8th and H Crew 74 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:02,028 that hung out in that alley. 75 00:06:02,111 --> 00:06:06,365 And three young men in that group had bragged 76 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:08,576 about dragging women into the alley to rape. 77 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:14,123 So they started hearing these rumors about this gang stuff. 78 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:18,878 It kind of fit what we thought was going on in the world at the time. 79 00:06:19,921 --> 00:06:22,715 And they switched from gathering evidence to suddenly, 80 00:06:22,799 --> 00:06:24,675 "Oh, my God. This must be it." 81 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,302 So we're now suspect-based. 82 00:06:26,385 --> 00:06:30,973 We're out to prove that these are the guys who did it. 83 00:06:35,978 --> 00:06:40,108 [newsman] You ever heard of a gang by the name of the 8th and H Crew? 84 00:06:40,191 --> 00:06:42,151 - No, I haven't. - Never heard of 'em? 85 00:06:43,194 --> 00:06:44,487 No, not a gang. 86 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:46,072 - [newsman] You live around here? - Yes. 87 00:06:46,155 --> 00:06:48,574 - Never heard of them? - No. 88 00:06:48,658 --> 00:06:50,451 Never heard of, never seen 'em either. 89 00:06:53,788 --> 00:06:56,165 [man] 8th and H was a park where buses 90 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:59,043 and everyone transferred to go wherever they go. 91 00:06:59,127 --> 00:07:03,756 And guys would go down 8th and H to see where guys, 92 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,342 "Hey, what you doin', man? I'll meet you up at 8th and H" 93 00:07:06,425 --> 00:07:08,427 because it was convenient to meet up there. 94 00:07:09,428 --> 00:07:12,265 And so dudes started referring to different guys 95 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:13,516 as the 8th Street Crew. 96 00:07:14,559 --> 00:07:16,227 We was basically like a family. 97 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:18,229 We all went to school together. Different schools. 98 00:07:18,312 --> 00:07:20,815 We all met up on the basketball courts. 99 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:29,699 We young, running around, having fun, going to the go-go. 100 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:33,286 [man 1] You had the go-go bands. 101 00:07:33,369 --> 00:07:36,706 [man 2] It's pretty much our own sound. It's D.C. sound. 102 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:38,958 And we, like, represented where we lived at. 103 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:42,295 And we may occasionally bump a couple people 104 00:07:42,378 --> 00:07:43,880 or something like that and... 105 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:45,548 And we started fighting. 106 00:07:46,924 --> 00:07:49,260 Farthest someone would get is hit in the head with a bat. 107 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:50,928 Or you know, black eye. 108 00:07:51,012 --> 00:07:53,264 Some stitches. But we wasn't doing no killing. 109 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:59,479 [woman] And whenever the go-go bands were playing, they'd ask, you know, 110 00:07:59,562 --> 00:08:03,065 like who's in the house or, you know, is 8th and H Crew in the house? 111 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:06,068 It just meant you lived in that neighborhood. 112 00:08:07,945 --> 00:08:10,406 And as soon as I went out into the community, 113 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:13,117 I became suspicious of the police story 114 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:18,164 because people in the community said they weren't aware of a gang. 115 00:08:18,247 --> 00:08:20,625 And police insisted there was a gang. 116 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:25,379 And a gang creates an image in the community, you know, panic. 117 00:08:25,463 --> 00:08:27,089 It makes people angrier. 118 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:30,176 It's a gang. It's, you know, it becomes vicious. 119 00:08:30,259 --> 00:08:33,095 [pounding] 120 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:34,347 [man] Open up the door. 121 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,308 [newscaster] Yesterday morning, D.C. Police fanned out 122 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:41,729 to arrest six members of the crew on charges of murder. 123 00:08:41,812 --> 00:08:45,107 They just started snatching everybody out of the neighborhood. 124 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:47,068 D.C was going through a purge. 125 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,197 They startled my family. 126 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,866 Came in about 6:30, seven o'clock. 127 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:55,952 Flying-- Helicopters flying over. 128 00:08:56,035 --> 00:08:58,746 Lights, police lights all outside. Came in. 129 00:08:58,829 --> 00:09:01,749 Took me out. Put me in the back of the police car. 130 00:09:01,832 --> 00:09:05,336 They would jump out and grab all of us. Put us in the car and try to take us down. 131 00:09:05,419 --> 00:09:06,295 Just to question us. 132 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:08,589 I was like, "Oh, this some... 133 00:09:09,966 --> 00:09:11,300 This some bullshit." 134 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:14,053 I mean, it was like, they were just kicking down doors. 135 00:09:14,136 --> 00:09:20,309 [man] Sunday, December the 9th, 1984, they kicked my door in. 136 00:09:22,353 --> 00:09:23,729 I had never been arrested. 137 00:09:23,813 --> 00:09:27,066 I had finished high school when I was 17 years old. 138 00:09:28,526 --> 00:09:32,113 I was gonna go in the military. I was going to college. 139 00:09:39,036 --> 00:09:43,165 Police drove us to 8th and H where they put is in the paddy wagon 140 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:46,794 to make it look like these the guys that hang out there on 8th and H. 141 00:09:46,877 --> 00:09:49,880 [newscaster] Police say these men are members of a gang 142 00:09:49,964 --> 00:09:52,675 which was known as the 8th and H Crew. 143 00:09:52,758 --> 00:09:57,805 There are still other members of the gang and police say there may be other arrests. 144 00:09:57,888 --> 00:10:00,474 [Trainum] Their approach was kind of like a shotgun approach. 145 00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:02,727 You kind of round in all the usual suspects, 146 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:06,689 start putting them in the box, squeezing them and see what comes out. 147 00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:09,400 [Sinclair] You get a 15-year-old and they're telling him he going to jail, 148 00:10:09,483 --> 00:10:12,778 or this gonna happen to him, or this gonna happen to him, that's scary. 149 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:14,155 That's very scary. 150 00:10:14,238 --> 00:10:15,781 You lie to say anything. 151 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:37,970 [woman] When they came to the house that Sunday morning, 152 00:10:38,054 --> 00:10:39,639 got him out of the bed, 153 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,017 they said they was gonna talk to him. 154 00:10:48,356 --> 00:10:52,568 They didn't tell me he was under arrest for murder or anything. 155 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:58,616 They did not request for his parents or attorney. 156 00:10:58,699 --> 00:11:02,036 Clifton didn't have nobody to speak for him. 157 00:11:03,037 --> 00:11:06,165 [detective] Do you have any objections to this videotaping taking place? 158 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:07,875 No. 159 00:11:07,958 --> 00:11:11,212 Have any promises been made to you in return for your statement? 160 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:14,423 Excuse me. Could you go by that one again? 161 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:15,758 Sure. 162 00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:17,385 Have any promises been made to you... 163 00:11:17,468 --> 00:11:20,054 Have I promised you anything for talking to me today? 164 00:11:21,597 --> 00:11:22,932 No, you haven't. 165 00:11:23,015 --> 00:11:25,976 [Williams] Cliff came up very high on the suggestibility scale. 166 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,105 His I.Q. was measured at 69.5. 167 00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:32,233 [Mary] Clifton not retarded. 168 00:11:32,316 --> 00:11:35,861 Special needs. Slow learner. 169 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:38,989 That was Clifton problem. He was a slow learner. 170 00:11:39,073 --> 00:11:44,537 Cliff didn't understand... what he was being asked to sign. 171 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:47,623 - Do you remember signing the rights card? - Yes. 172 00:11:48,707 --> 00:11:50,709 - Did you read the card? - Yes. 173 00:11:51,794 --> 00:11:55,673 Back then, we were not videotaping interrogations from start to finish. 174 00:11:55,756 --> 00:11:58,426 We were only doing what we call, the "recap video." 175 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:03,431 We're here today to talk to you about the death of... 176 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:07,435 the lady in the alley at 8th and H Street. 177 00:12:07,518 --> 00:12:10,896 Why don't you start, tell us everything that you know about that. 178 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:14,650 I came home from school. 179 00:12:17,736 --> 00:12:20,489 I came across H Street... 180 00:12:21,699 --> 00:12:22,700 up Ninth Street... 181 00:12:23,701 --> 00:12:26,662 to the alley... the end of the alley. 182 00:12:27,997 --> 00:12:32,501 I seen Monk dragging the lady into the alley. 183 00:12:35,004 --> 00:12:36,505 He slammed the lady. 184 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:38,966 Chrissy hit her. 185 00:12:41,010 --> 00:12:42,511 Burt... hit her. 186 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:45,306 He dragged her. 187 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:49,768 Snot Rag hit her and dragged her. 188 00:12:51,770 --> 00:12:55,024 Derek stomped, Fella hit her. 189 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:56,275 Bobo hit her. 190 00:12:58,402 --> 00:13:00,988 Levy was standing over top of her. 191 00:13:02,114 --> 00:13:04,909 When you see these recap videos, a lot of times people will say, 192 00:13:04,992 --> 00:13:08,704 well, look, just the story flows, how cold they are. 193 00:13:08,787 --> 00:13:10,331 That it's being factual. 194 00:13:10,414 --> 00:13:14,376 They've rehearsed this again and again and again. 195 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:18,881 So all of the manipulation, the lies about the evidence, 196 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:22,343 the promises of leniency, that's all off camera. 197 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,513 Snot Rag said, "Stop, Derek." 198 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:31,477 So that's when Snot Rag and Burt pulled her to the cut of the alley. 199 00:13:33,395 --> 00:13:34,230 Levy... 200 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,358 stuck a pole in her. 201 00:13:40,861 --> 00:13:43,697 Where was she when he stuck the pole in her? 202 00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:45,574 Right at the cut of the alley. 203 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,285 [Trainum] He was getting critical facts wrong. 204 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:54,124 The crime scene analysis puts most of the assault inside of the garage. 205 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:01,966 Yarborough is saying that he's over on 9th Street 206 00:14:02,049 --> 00:14:05,553 watching the attack occur on the other end of the alley. 207 00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:11,058 [detective] How far were you from exactly where they had the lady down? 208 00:14:17,856 --> 00:14:19,900 I can't recall it all from here. 209 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:21,944 Was it as long as a basketball court? 210 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:26,907 - It was just about that length. - Full court? 211 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:28,033 Yeah. Just like that. 212 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:32,663 At first, they put it at a distance of a basketball court. 213 00:14:32,746 --> 00:14:35,958 They begin to challenge him and he begins to shorten the distance. 214 00:14:36,041 --> 00:14:38,294 [detective 2] And tell me, what you could see at that distance? 215 00:14:39,461 --> 00:14:40,296 There was... 216 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:45,134 Not, not quite that far. Not quite that far. 217 00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:48,888 - Well, what could you see? - I could see what they was doing. 218 00:14:48,971 --> 00:14:52,349 You watch the statement and you hear these things. 219 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:53,726 And you think... 220 00:14:53,809 --> 00:14:58,856 Oh, boy, these are-- He's giving details. This is uncomfortable. 221 00:14:58,939 --> 00:15:03,861 But then, look at the big picture. Look at the other things that he says. 222 00:15:03,944 --> 00:15:05,905 We know those other things aren't true. 223 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:10,117 Who is this? 224 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,201 Calvin. 225 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:16,290 [detective 1] All right. 226 00:15:16,373 --> 00:15:17,499 And what did Calvin do? 227 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:19,501 He was fighting. 228 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,211 He stomped her. 229 00:15:21,295 --> 00:15:24,006 Would you describe what you mean by stomp her? 230 00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:26,216 He was... [kicks chair] kicking, 231 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:28,302 - putting his feet down on her. - Okay. 232 00:15:29,428 --> 00:15:30,638 [Williams] What he meant by a stomp, 233 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:34,266 is somebody stepping hard down on somebody. 234 00:15:34,350 --> 00:15:37,436 Kicking them but they're on the ground and you're putting full weight on them. 235 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,274 Stomping somebody leaves a distinct injury on the body. 236 00:15:42,358 --> 00:15:45,861 Mrs. Fuller didn't have any of those injuries. Not one. 237 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:49,239 Certainly not the ten that Cliff described. 238 00:15:50,574 --> 00:15:52,826 [Williams] Cliff also, at some point, in his statement, 239 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:55,746 describes her blouse being ripped off of her. 240 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:58,499 And he doesn't only describe it, he gestures. 241 00:15:58,582 --> 00:16:02,586 He goes like this. It's kind of like Hulk Hogan in the '80s, 242 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:04,922 you know, pulling off, you know, ripping open his shirt. 243 00:16:06,382 --> 00:16:07,841 That didn't happen. 244 00:16:07,925 --> 00:16:10,552 When Monk slammed her, Chrissy hit him... 245 00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:11,512 hit her first. 246 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:16,225 And Derek was beating her with a stick. 247 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,145 Monk ripped her blouse off her. 248 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:21,230 [Williams] She was wearing a sweater. 249 00:16:21,313 --> 00:16:25,234 And the sweater was pushed up her chest, not ripped off of her. 250 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:28,570 Part of what's interesting about Cliff making that gesture about it, 251 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:33,701 having been ripped off like that, is that Detective Sanchez Serrano 252 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:37,830 admits that in interrogating Cliff, 253 00:16:37,913 --> 00:16:43,919 he mimicked ripping off his shirt and feigned rage at Cliff 254 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,713 for not telling what he knew. 255 00:16:47,756 --> 00:16:49,049 [detective] Now tell me the truth. 256 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,300 Isn't it true... 257 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:54,638 or is it true that you went in that garage and saw what was going on? 258 00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:56,056 Isn't that the truth? 259 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:59,560 No, I swear to God. No. I didn't go in there. 260 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:01,353 - Isn't it true? - No. I swear. 261 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:06,650 People with low I.Q.'s are particularly likely to give false confessions. 262 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:12,281 Which means that they are likely to defer to the opinion of another, 263 00:17:12,364 --> 00:17:16,368 and to tell somebody what they think that that other person wants to hear. 264 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:22,833 I never dreamed that I would be the living proof of someone 265 00:17:22,916 --> 00:17:27,129 that was being falsely accused of something they didn't do. 266 00:17:34,303 --> 00:17:37,723 [detective] You gotta tell me, brother. We want to hear it all. 267 00:17:37,806 --> 00:17:39,016 Tell us exactly what-- 268 00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:41,810 - This shit give me nightmares. - Okay. Well... 269 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:44,021 [Willliams] The two most central witnesses for the government 270 00:17:44,104 --> 00:17:46,482 were Harry Bennett and Calvin Alston, 271 00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:50,027 who are young, vulnerable teenagers. 272 00:17:50,110 --> 00:17:52,946 They just went and got the lady and took her back there. 273 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:56,492 Okay. But what do you mean? To take her back there or... 274 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,869 In other words, they trying to say, go rob the lady. 275 00:17:58,952 --> 00:18:00,788 - Go rob the lady? - Yeah. 276 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:03,582 Okay. Who was in the alley? 277 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,626 And we'll go to a book this time, okay? 278 00:18:05,709 --> 00:18:07,669 So you can identify the people for us. 279 00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:14,760 Before we came into this interview room today 280 00:18:14,843 --> 00:18:17,888 you had a conversation with me in the room just beside this one. 281 00:18:17,971 --> 00:18:19,014 - Correct? - Right. 282 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:23,018 - And did we draw a diagram at that time? - Yes, sir. 283 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:25,104 [Alston] They showed me the piece of paper. 284 00:18:25,187 --> 00:18:26,814 It had names. 285 00:18:26,897 --> 00:18:28,941 A lot of scribble on the paper. 286 00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:31,985 But it had charts, pies drew on the paper. 287 00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:37,116 They would tell me I was gonna either take a piece of the pie... 288 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:42,996 A slice of the pie, or take the whole pie and go down by myself. 289 00:18:43,705 --> 00:18:47,793 At first, I thought they was joking. To be honest, I thought they was joking. 290 00:18:47,876 --> 00:18:50,337 The more I explained, they didn't want to hear. 291 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,131 When I told them I was at work, 292 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:55,008 they didn't want to hear that. 293 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:59,012 They said, "No, he was with Cliff", that I was in the alley. 294 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:01,473 I was scared. 295 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:03,809 And I took a piece of the pie. 296 00:19:04,768 --> 00:19:07,020 Now, you stated to me before... 297 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:10,440 that in the garage... 298 00:19:11,483 --> 00:19:15,070 was Levy, Monk. 299 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,364 Now, who are these other people standing out here? 300 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,616 - Would you tell me who was out there? - Sure. 301 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:21,618 What they were doing? Speak up, sir, please. 302 00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,538 Burt was standing there. Kelvin was standing out there. 303 00:19:24,621 --> 00:19:27,833 Chrissy, Darryl, Ernest, Cliff... 304 00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:33,172 Snot Rag and the Monk. 305 00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:34,089 And me. 306 00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:38,135 [detective] Do you feel better now that you've told us this on tape? 307 00:19:38,218 --> 00:19:40,470 - [Alston] Yeah, I feel much better. - [detective] Why? 308 00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,890 Because I don't want-- I didn't have nothing to do with it. 309 00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:46,560 I don't want it all to fall down on me if they saying I did it. 310 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:53,609 I just want the thing to get over with so I can live my life like a free man. 311 00:19:55,777 --> 00:19:59,698 [Williams] These teenagers make a shortsighted decision 312 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:04,953 to lie and say that they are witnesses to something they didn't actually see. 313 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:07,748 But we didn't have the full facts 314 00:20:07,831 --> 00:20:11,084 that would've helped tell a different account of this crime 315 00:20:11,168 --> 00:20:16,048 and would've helped show that Cliff's statement... 316 00:20:16,131 --> 00:20:20,552 and the statement of Alston and the statement of Bennett... 317 00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:21,887 those statements weren't true. 318 00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:33,774 [Trainum] I had begun a project 319 00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:37,486 where we were going back and reviewing old homicide cases 320 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:41,365 and trying to get information into searchable databases. 321 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:46,578 I was going through old files that involved unusual cases, 322 00:20:46,662 --> 00:20:48,455 sexual assaults, things like that. 323 00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:52,793 And that's when I stumbled across the Catherine Fuller case. 324 00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:54,544 And as I was going through it, 325 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:58,090 I found this envelope in the very, very back part, 326 00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,676 and on the outside it said "suspects". 327 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,553 I opened up the envelope and was going through it. 328 00:21:03,637 --> 00:21:06,306 And I had pictures of the people who had been arrested. 329 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,433 And then I came across this one picture. 330 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:11,019 And I recognized him as a guy named James McMillan. 331 00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:19,528 And I thought, what the hell is his picture doing in with this group here? 332 00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:20,737 'Cause I knew McMillan. 333 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:24,574 I knew him because I had participated in his arrest 334 00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:29,830 only a few years before that, actually back in 1992. 335 00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:44,928 [Williams] James McMillan commits, essentially, the exact same murder 336 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:46,680 as what happened to Catherine Fuller. 337 00:21:47,931 --> 00:21:51,977 He grabs a woman off the street, he drags her through an alley. 338 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:56,898 He beats her up. He sexually assaults her. He sodomizes her. 339 00:21:56,982 --> 00:22:00,027 Mrs. Fuller was found naked from the waist down 340 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:03,864 with her sweater bunched up around her breasts. 341 00:22:03,947 --> 00:22:10,078 McMillan's 1992 victim is found naked from the waist down with her top, 342 00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:13,540 I believe it was also a sweater, bunched up around her breasts. 343 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,920 [Trainum] If Catherine Fuller's case was open right now, 344 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,256 McMillan would be my number one suspect. 345 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:23,759 This guy has a vicious history. 346 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:30,891 McMillan, he has been institutionalized most of his life. Since, like, age 13. 347 00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:34,811 Any time he was involved in anything, he brutally beat women. 348 00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:39,191 He was just out for a short while when this occurred. 349 00:22:39,274 --> 00:22:40,484 [Trainum] He lived in that area. 350 00:22:40,567 --> 00:22:45,197 In fact, he lived in a house that backed up to the alley 351 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,824 where Catherine Fuller was found. 352 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:50,285 It turns out that he was robbing women in that area. 353 00:22:50,368 --> 00:22:52,871 And when he robbed them, he would walk up to 'em 354 00:22:52,954 --> 00:22:55,373 and just pound the ever loving hell out of 'em. 355 00:22:56,625 --> 00:22:58,376 Just viciously, you know, beat them. 356 00:23:01,379 --> 00:23:05,467 [Williams] On the day of the murder, a street vendor saw McMillan in the alley 357 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:07,177 acting suspiciously, 358 00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:09,679 hiding something under his coat, and remember, 359 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:14,476 the object used to sexually assault Mrs. Fuller has never been found. 360 00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:21,149 The police showed the street vendor the photograph book of young men 361 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:22,067 in the neighborhood. 362 00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:26,071 And he identified McMillan and another guy. 363 00:23:27,155 --> 00:23:28,281 But he didn't know their names. 364 00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:31,910 He had just identified them based on their face. 365 00:23:31,993 --> 00:23:34,329 The police knew their names. 366 00:23:34,412 --> 00:23:36,498 By the time of defendant's trial, 367 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:41,920 McMillan was in jail for having robbed and assaulted... 368 00:23:42,003 --> 00:23:44,464 two other middle-aged women in that neighborhood. 369 00:23:44,548 --> 00:23:49,261 Defendants were on trial for an alleged robbery and assault 370 00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:51,221 that spun out of control into this murder 371 00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:53,890 of a middle-aged woman in this neighborhood. 372 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:58,478 I mean, it's the most important evidence you can imagine. 373 00:23:58,562 --> 00:24:00,939 And the defendants didn't know about it. 374 00:24:11,783 --> 00:24:15,829 [newscaster] The victim, Catherine Fuller, 48 years old, mother of six. 375 00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:19,791 The defendants, nine young men, a 17-year-old girl, 376 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:21,751 members of the 8th and H Crew. 377 00:24:21,835 --> 00:24:24,880 In December, several suspects were rounded up. 378 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:28,675 Today, they were together again for the start of their trial. 379 00:24:28,758 --> 00:24:32,721 Anyone convicted will end up serving at least the prime of their adulthood, 380 00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:35,640 the next 20 years, in prison. 381 00:24:42,689 --> 00:24:46,151 [Mary] At the trial, I was still thinking that he's coming home. 382 00:24:46,234 --> 00:24:48,445 Still thinking that he's coming home. 383 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:54,743 [Turner] There was not a doubt of uncertainty in my mind. 384 00:24:54,826 --> 00:24:57,412 When you're innocent, you know that, well, they got facts, 385 00:24:57,495 --> 00:24:59,748 then it's gonna prove that I'm not guilty. 386 00:24:59,831 --> 00:25:02,000 That's what I was looking forward to. 387 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:04,085 Let's get to court. 388 00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:07,797 Let's get this done so I can hurry up and get on with my life. 389 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:09,883 Sparks flew at the trial today of ten members 390 00:25:09,966 --> 00:25:11,635 of the 8th and H Crew gang. 391 00:25:11,718 --> 00:25:14,888 News Seven's Gary Reals is at the trial now with a live report. Gary. 392 00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:24,981 This is the most publicized case in the history of Washington D.C. 393 00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:29,069 The Washington Post did stories about it. The Nightly News did stories about it. 394 00:25:29,152 --> 00:25:30,654 There were nine policemen who spent... 395 00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:34,324 And they were reporting stuff that they heard from the prosecution. 396 00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:37,744 [newsman] Assistant U.S. Attorney Jerry Goren beckoned the jurors 397 00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,622 to relive what happened in that alley that night. 398 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:44,000 He said it was a different world than the jurors might know. 399 00:25:44,084 --> 00:25:48,797 A world where loyalty to comrades is so much greater than to community. 400 00:25:49,547 --> 00:25:52,425 [Turner] The United States Attorney himself, Jerry Goren, 401 00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:56,179 he was putting on a smoke and mirrors for the public. 402 00:25:56,263 --> 00:26:00,267 [newsman] Jerry Goren told the jury it all began with a song in a park. 403 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:02,686 A song about getting paid, 404 00:26:02,769 --> 00:26:05,855 and ended in a brutal, senseless murder. 405 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:09,609 I guess they were listening to the music and just kinda hanging out. 406 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:17,492 And I can remember the song just as if it was yesterday. 407 00:26:17,575 --> 00:26:20,203 Talking about money, money, I gotta have some money. 408 00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:26,710 [Turner] "A dollar bill is a friend of mine, I need some money." 409 00:26:26,793 --> 00:26:31,923 That just happened to be the top go-go rap song of that year. 410 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:36,469 [Williams] The prosecution made it sound like singing that song, 411 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,222 that was the motivation for committing the crime. 412 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:40,724 They thought that... 413 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,643 they just wanted to rob somebody. 414 00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:46,855 That's as close of a theory as you ever get from the prosecution. 415 00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:08,168 [Turner] Back in 1984, we're talking about October the 1st, 1984. 416 00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:09,836 It was the first of the month. 417 00:27:11,046 --> 00:27:14,924 Everyone in this entire neighborhood is doing their shopping 418 00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:16,092 on the first of the month. 419 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,596 You get your deals. You're getting your sales. 420 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,514 People are cashing checks constantly. 421 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:26,978 If there's 20 to 30 people back here in the alley 422 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:31,232 behind 8th and H between four and six o'clock, rush hour, 423 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,735 I'm sure it would sound almost like a football game 424 00:27:33,818 --> 00:27:35,862 in this little close proximity. 425 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:40,700 [Williams] At trial, there's no members of the community 426 00:27:40,784 --> 00:27:44,537 who say that they saw this rowdy group that crosses a street 427 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:46,456 and then assaults a woman in the alley. 428 00:27:46,539 --> 00:27:52,921 It's only these young, vulnerable teenagers who... 429 00:27:53,004 --> 00:27:54,172 who are giving statements. 430 00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:58,468 [newsman] Fourteen-year-old Maurice Thomas was an eyewitness 431 00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:01,054 to the murder of Catherine Fuller last year. 432 00:28:01,137 --> 00:28:03,598 Two weeks ago, he testified for the government. 433 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:09,938 Maurice Thomas. He testified against several of the defendants in the case. 434 00:28:10,021 --> 00:28:13,858 He claimed to be in the alley across from the alley 435 00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:16,444 where Miss Fuller was assaulted. 436 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,448 [Gaines] These are very vulnerable young people. 437 00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:24,828 One, for their age, and two, because of their circumstances. 438 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:29,040 [Williams] When people responded to a subpoena 439 00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:30,959 to come down and talk with detectives, 440 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:34,671 they would receive a financial incentive for coming in. 441 00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:38,550 I believe the testimony in our case was $35 each time they came down. 442 00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:40,760 That's not an insignificant amount of money 443 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:45,056 to a teenager in an impoverished area of Northeast D.C. in the 1980s. 444 00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:48,893 [Turner] People knew that this was a hustle. 445 00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:52,564 They found out that the way to get money was to just go down there, 446 00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:55,233 act like you knew something about the 8th and H Street case, 447 00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,026 they gonna pay you. 448 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:59,738 People found out fast. They gonna pay you. 449 00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:03,158 They paid Maurice. That was the running rumor. 450 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:06,369 Anybody who took Maurice down there because he was a juvenile, 451 00:29:06,453 --> 00:29:08,788 so someone had to take him down there. 452 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,875 So then, it became a competition thing to take Maurice down there 453 00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:15,044 'cause everybody know they could pick up a extra $30 454 00:29:15,128 --> 00:29:16,838 each time you take Maurice down there. 455 00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:29,309 Before trial, when I was locked up, the first couple of months, I was raped. 456 00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:30,643 So, they knew this. 457 00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,566 [Turner] I wanted out. 458 00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:39,027 And I actually said what they wanted me to say. 459 00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:46,034 That everything that they said that happened in that alley... 460 00:29:47,702 --> 00:29:50,288 they had me say that in front of the court. 461 00:29:50,371 --> 00:29:54,709 I had to say that in front of the court if I wanted a lesser sentence. 462 00:29:58,087 --> 00:30:01,257 [newscaster] It was the moment that highlighted the government's case. 463 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:05,136 Twenty-year-old Calvin Alston squatted in front of the jury box 464 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:07,972 with his two hands clenched as if holding a pipe, 465 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,099 he reenacted how, he says, 466 00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:14,521 Levy Rouse assaulted Catherine Fuller with a foot long pipe. 467 00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,689 Alston facing 20 years to life 468 00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,983 for his guilty plea to second-degree murder, 469 00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:23,613 admitted he was the one who first targeted Catherine Fuller for robbery, 470 00:30:23,696 --> 00:30:26,157 getting paid, as he put it. 471 00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:30,745 For 11 months, I went over the testimony with the prosecution team 472 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,914 and some of the witnesses in the case. 473 00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:37,377 And they lined us up, they questioned us, 474 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:41,756 they deleted this, added this, scratched this out, 475 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,344 until they were satisfied with going forth with the testimony that they wanted. 476 00:30:46,427 --> 00:30:49,138 [newscaster] By pleading guilty to second-degree murder, 477 00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:53,893 Calvin Alston faces the prospect of 15 years to life in prison 478 00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:58,815 instead of the possibility of 35 years to life if convicted at trial. 479 00:30:59,899 --> 00:31:01,484 It was gut wrenching. 480 00:31:01,568 --> 00:31:03,444 [newscaster] He testified that Charles Turner 481 00:31:03,528 --> 00:31:05,655 suddenly shoved her into an alley. 482 00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:08,700 That Levy Rouse hit her over the head with a two by four. 483 00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:13,872 Alston said he then walked up and punched Mrs. Fuller and kicked her. 484 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:17,458 He said Monk Harris kicked her, Christopher Turner kicked her, 485 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:20,670 Kelvin Smith kicked her, Levy Rouse kicked her 486 00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,547 and Charles Turner kicked her. 487 00:31:23,673 --> 00:31:26,801 I told him, "If you had anything to do with it, tell the truth about it." 488 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:32,098 They'll be lighter on you. But he's told me up to the last minute... 489 00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:36,603 I talked to him yesterday evening. He say he didn't know anything about it. 490 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,939 [Turner] I knew that I have never killed no one in my life. 491 00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:42,984 And I knew that they didn't kill no one in their life. 492 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:47,155 But no matter what we said, or what was said, 493 00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:49,699 we was gonna go down for their case. 494 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:52,577 Tomorrow, this case is expected to shift gears. 495 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,748 The prosecution is likely to rest and the defense will begin. 496 00:31:56,831 --> 00:32:00,043 Some of the ten defendants say they have alibis. 497 00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:02,670 It is unknown what the others will do. 498 00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:06,341 [Williams] If you're defending seven people 499 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:13,139 who are on trial for their lives against a brutal attack, 500 00:32:13,222 --> 00:32:16,601 you can't just be pointing at some, you know, phantom in the air. 501 00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:18,436 You gotta have something concrete. 502 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:23,816 But because the prosecution withheld the evidence 503 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,737 tying McMillan to our crime scene, 504 00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:32,909 the defense was limited to what, I think of as a, 505 00:32:32,992 --> 00:32:35,745 "Not me, maybe them, defense." 506 00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:39,165 [newsman] Defense attorneys clamored to cut themselves away from Rouse 507 00:32:39,248 --> 00:32:42,835 who has been named by four different eyewitnesses as the one 508 00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:45,880 who so brutally assaulted Catherine Fuller last year. 509 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,174 We don't want to have any involvement with him. 510 00:32:48,257 --> 00:32:49,092 STEVEN WEBB'S ATTORNEY 511 00:32:49,175 --> 00:32:51,511 We feel the evidence is not overwhelming against Steven Webb. 512 00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:55,181 From my view of the jurors when they were told that, 513 00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:56,307 there was some concern. 514 00:32:56,391 --> 00:32:58,518 And I feel that that concern is gonna overflow 515 00:32:58,601 --> 00:33:01,938 and may positively or negatively affect the outcome of the jury's verdict. 516 00:33:02,021 --> 00:33:03,106 And I'm opposed to it. 517 00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:06,651 I'm adamantly opposed to it at this late stage in the proceedings. 518 00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:08,736 I really didn't like my lawyer 519 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:12,073 because everything that came out of her mouth at the time was, 520 00:33:12,156 --> 00:33:12,991 "Take a deal". 521 00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:17,870 I told her that I'm not taking a deal to a murder that I didn't commit. 522 00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:21,124 And man, it was a frenzy. 523 00:33:21,207 --> 00:33:24,502 All the lawyers was just like... sharks in the water. 524 00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:29,173 Instead of the lawyers getting together and try to figure out what was going on. 525 00:33:29,257 --> 00:33:32,510 It was more like, "I'm defending-- This is my client and that's it. 526 00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:34,762 And we don't care what they say about your client." 527 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:39,392 The admission of one of the confessions, of one of the co-defendants 528 00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:43,312 which tended to corroborate the government witnesses. 529 00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:44,897 There are numerous issues... 530 00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:48,067 Because they didn't have any kind of unifying defense, 531 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:49,444 that's the best they could do. 532 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,947 [newscaster] The seven women and five men of the jury 533 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,366 were taken back to their hotel late today 534 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:57,076 for the rest of the weekend. 535 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,997 After six days of deliberations, they still have not returned 536 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,417 any of the 40 verdicts they must reach in the case. 537 00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:10,173 Well, I know, in my case, I kind of really wanted to make sure 538 00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:15,053 that some of those kids didn't have to spend years and years in prison 539 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:16,637 if they were innocent. 540 00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,098 And I think we were really looking for that. 541 00:34:19,182 --> 00:34:25,480 But as jury members, you can only really go by the evidence that's presented. 542 00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:28,483 You know, you have no idea to thinking that there were 543 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,778 some other alternative views as to what happened. 544 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,454 [newscaster] There weren't any smiles inside the well of the court 545 00:34:41,537 --> 00:34:43,915 as the verdicts were announced. 546 00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:48,628 Behind the bulletproof shield, there were many stares and an occasional flinch. 547 00:34:48,711 --> 00:34:51,506 Timothy "Snot Rag" Catlett. Guilty. 548 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,758 Levy Rouse, guilty. 549 00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:56,344 Kelvin "Hollywood" Smith, guilty. 550 00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:59,097 Charles "Fella" Turner, guilty. 551 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:00,640 Steven Webb, guilty. 552 00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:05,144 Twenty-six-year-old Russell Overton, known as "Bobo", guilty. 553 00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:08,689 And 17-year-old Clifton Yarborough, guilty. 554 00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,567 Yarborough's relatives left the courthouse in tears. 555 00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:15,071 Clifton confessed on videotape the day of his arrest. 556 00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:18,950 But still spurned a handsome government offer several months ago 557 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:22,161 to plead guilty and probably end up with a light sentence. 558 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:26,582 I just don't understand it. 559 00:35:28,417 --> 00:35:30,461 I just don't understand it. 560 00:35:30,545 --> 00:35:31,879 How it go so far. 561 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:41,139 I remember, that even after the sentencing, 562 00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:45,560 that Clifton did not understand that he could not go home. 563 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:49,147 He thought it was all over now and he was free to go. 564 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,607 He just didn't get it. 565 00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:55,611 I was mad because I know they had nothing to do with it. 566 00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:56,988 I knew it in my heart. 567 00:35:58,823 --> 00:35:59,699 It's not their character. 568 00:36:01,576 --> 00:36:02,410 No. 569 00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:08,040 [newscaster] Also convicted of murder was 19-year-old Christopher Turner. 570 00:36:08,124 --> 00:36:10,251 As the guilty verdicts were announced, 571 00:36:10,334 --> 00:36:13,671 Christopher Turner slumped in his chair and cried. 572 00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:20,928 They sold the public on this theory, the witch hunt, I would call it, 573 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:22,847 that the government set out on, 574 00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:25,808 got the better of them and their judgments. 575 00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:36,194 I know that I couldn't do... 27 years, 28 years, 576 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:40,698 after, you know... I know I couldn't do it, you know. 577 00:36:40,781 --> 00:36:42,074 [man] What are you going to do? 578 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:50,291 Appeal, which basically is where all my faith is in. 579 00:37:12,355 --> 00:37:14,023 [Turner] Almost 26 years in prison. 580 00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:19,946 I was fortunate enough to convince the parole board to let me out. 581 00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:25,117 This is the block that I grew up on 582 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:28,079 right directly around the corner from Mrs. Fuller's house. 583 00:37:31,457 --> 00:37:34,210 I knew everyone on this block my entire life. 584 00:37:35,378 --> 00:37:42,051 My grandmother, she bought this house, I think, in 1939 for 12,000. 585 00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:45,471 All the way on the backside, my bedroom. 586 00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,768 My father was born in this house. My brothers and sisters. 587 00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:54,939 Now, looking back I can only imagine what some of the things 588 00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:57,817 that they had to go through and put up with at that time. 589 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:01,362 [Turner] Police shattered this neighborhood 590 00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:06,575 because it divided so many friends, it divided family members. 591 00:38:06,659 --> 00:38:07,493 It was just... 592 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:10,621 It was just the whole neighborhood just changed. 593 00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:14,458 It crushed my family, literally. I mean, my grandmother 594 00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:17,962 pretty much gave up her fight for cancer when it happened. 595 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:23,301 And eventually, my family lost the house. So, uh... 596 00:38:26,178 --> 00:38:28,264 [Carlos] It was just like, no more family. 597 00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:31,642 I just be glad when it's over with, 598 00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:34,812 the truth come out, all the fellas get released. 599 00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:08,095 It took a long time and a lot of investigation by a lot of people 600 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,389 to put together all the evidence that we have now. 601 00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:15,978 [man] ...go live in three to five minutes. There's a line establishing right here. 602 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:20,024 If you want to try to get in for the second case, you can stay in this line. 603 00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:21,942 Again, folks, the three to five-minute line 604 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,819 is now being established for the first case. 605 00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:26,530 There's no more general seating for the first case. 606 00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:30,534 With me being out here six years before those guys, um... 607 00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:31,744 Already it's been six years. 608 00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,246 Doesn't seem like I've been home six years. 609 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:39,752 And the fact they still in and still serving time, I know it weighs on 'em. 610 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,923 [Williams] This is it. As high as you can go. 611 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,343 I am hopeful. 612 00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:51,722 I can't say that I think it's overwhelmingly likely. 613 00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:55,893 I also don't think that, you know, our backs are against the wall either. 614 00:39:55,976 --> 00:39:58,020 I'm hopeful. 615 00:40:01,023 --> 00:40:03,275 [Gaines] I'm like, why am I so emotional? You... 616 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:05,152 Yeah. I'll see you once you get in. 617 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:06,695 - Okay. - [woman] Are you going inside? 618 00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:07,696 - Yeah. Yeah. - Yeah. 619 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,573 - Yeah. We're going in. - [Gaines] How do we get in? 620 00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,034 - [woman] Are you nervous? - No. Never. 621 00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:16,122 [man] Mr. Williams. 622 00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,874 Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court. 623 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:23,212 In Brady v. Maryland, this court established the now familiar principle 624 00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:25,589 that the prosecution must disclose to the defense 625 00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:29,009 all favorable and material information. 626 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,054 This case involves a clear violation of that principle. 627 00:40:32,138 --> 00:40:34,557 Here, the prosecution suppressed information 628 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,434 that a serial assaulter of women 629 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:40,396 had been seen acting suspiciously at the crime scene before police arrived. 630 00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:43,607 The question for this court 631 00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,235 is whether there is a reasonable probability 632 00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:48,737 that the jury would have reached a different verdict 633 00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:52,324 if it had had turned over the McMillan evidence to the court. 634 00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:55,911 [Gaines] I've had so many hopes for them. 635 00:40:58,038 --> 00:40:59,498 They just haven't turned out. 636 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:04,170 There's just a part of me that's just afraid to hope. 637 00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:09,049 And yet, in spite of that, I know that I do hope. 638 00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:13,637 I hope they see the case for what it... 639 00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,347 - Really is. - Really is. 640 00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:16,265 Really was. 641 00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,726 [man 1] All the lies they've been told and everything. 642 00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:21,979 [man 2] We want them held accountable for what's going on. 643 00:41:22,062 --> 00:41:25,441 Clifton was about 15 when he took this picture. 644 00:41:25,524 --> 00:41:28,360 This is the way he looked when he got locked up. 645 00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,237 That little baby face. 646 00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:33,032 [man] He still got that same smile. Do you ever notice? 647 00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:36,535 Cliff, that's one thing he loved to do is dress. 648 00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:41,081 He outdress me. He liked to impress the girls. 649 00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,209 That's what he liked to do. 650 00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:46,629 I think Clifton got over everything. All he want to do is come home. 651 00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:47,713 That's all he want. 652 00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:51,467 He really want to come before something happen to his mother. 653 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:53,511 That's all he want. 654 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:57,139 [woman] This was kind of guaranteed to be bad 655 00:41:57,223 --> 00:42:01,018 for the defendants in the sense that without any alternative theory 656 00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:03,854 it was a circular firing squad. 657 00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:08,234 And it was, you know, you should believe the guy who doesn't incriminate me. 658 00:42:08,317 --> 00:42:11,320 But of course, you should believe him as to everybody else. 659 00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:13,531 All ten of these people saying this, 660 00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:17,493 it created the worst of all possible worlds for the defendants. 661 00:42:19,161 --> 00:42:21,288 Why is it, that in the end, 662 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:25,209 the government's witnesses were two people who were charged 663 00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:27,253 and were making a deal with the government, 664 00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,380 and who had reasons to make a deal with the government, 665 00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:31,257 and a 14-year-old boy? 666 00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:35,594 The objective crime scene evidence, 667 00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:38,222 in addition to the alternative perpetrator theory, 668 00:42:38,305 --> 00:42:42,810 would have presented an overwhelmingly powerful case of innocence. 669 00:42:42,893 --> 00:42:46,730 It certainly would've been enough to be a reasonable probability 670 00:42:46,814 --> 00:42:49,024 of the jury finding reasonable doubt. 58501

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