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[detective] Now, tell me the truth.
Isn't it true...
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or is it true that you went in that garage
and saw what was going on?
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Isn't that the truth?
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No, I swear to God. No.
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I didn't go in there.
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[detective] I want you to...
tell me if you recognize...
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each person in these photographs
and what that person did in this crime.
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What part they played? Start right here.
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[clears throat]
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[detective] Is there anything else
you want to add to this
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that you have not told us?
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I didn't have anything to do with it
and I don't want it all to fall down on me
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if they saying I did it.
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I just want this thing to get over with
so I can live my life like a free man.
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This crime rocked the 8th
and H Street neighborhood.
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I've had many people tell me
that on a certain level, it still does.
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[newscaster] The gruesome discovery
was made in a rain-soaked alley
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in the 800 block of H Street Northeast,
an alley where junkies go to use drugs.
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Inside a vacant dilapidated brick garage,
the partly nude body of a young woman.
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[man] This is not usually what goes on
around this area. It was crazy.
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Everybody was curious and furious.
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[newscaster]
The victim has been identified
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as 48-year-old Catherine Fuller,
of K Street Northeast.
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She had been sexually assaulted
and beaten to death.
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[man] The detectives looked
at this crime scene
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and the horrible circumstances
of her death.
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And I think they had this immediate idea
a group must've done this.
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[man 2] It's the first time ever
in history that
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that many people were charged
for one murder
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of one person,
without it being a conspiracy.
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You had to realize how the system worked
in D.C. back in the '80s and '90s.
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Back then, we had so many people
getting killed in D.C.
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We were number one murder capital
of the United States.
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The homicide unit, it was 30 detectives
and we had one too many cases.
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This was a very brutal crime.
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I mean, I handle lots and lots of cases,
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and this, one of the three gross crimes
that I've ever seen.
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Once they opened that body,
you could see the damage they caused.
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The pole that they put...
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in her body all the way up.
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This was too much.
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It's kind of difficult to believe that...
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a human being will inflict so much pain...
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and... so much brutality
towards another human being.
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[detective] This afternoon,
homicide detectives returned to the alley,
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looking for evidence
and talking with people
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who may have seen something.
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[man] At approximately 4:30 p.m.
on the day of the murder...
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...Mrs. Fuller left to go shopping.
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That's the best we know from the testimony
of her husband and her son.
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Mrs. Fuller was 48 years old.
She was small.
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She was 99 pounds.
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She wasn't much taller
than five feet tall.
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She was a woman who took care of six kids
and a husband who was on disability.
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The forensic evidence
is that she was beaten up
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on the 9th Street side of the alley.
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The alley runs parallel to 8th Street.
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Some of her possessions were found
in that 9th Street portion of the alley.
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And the perpetrator
who decided to assault her
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dragged her body from that 9th Street side
of the alley into the garage.
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And based on the autopsy,
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some lengthy object had to be used
to commit the sodomy.
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[man] Departments are judged
on their crime rates,
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especially on their homicide crime rates.
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If you have a high homicide rate,
you need to do something.
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You need to bring it down.
And you need to show a high closure rate.
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The pressure's on you
and you want to close it.
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You want to close it quick.
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About six o'clock, a lady walking
through the alley discovered the...
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partially clothed body of an adult female.
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On the night of the murder, somebody
left an anonymous tip for the cops
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at I want to say,
2:30 in the morning,
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saying that there was this group
called the 8th and H Crew
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that hung out in that alley.
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And three young men in that group
had bragged
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about dragging women
into the alley to rape.
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So they started hearing these rumors
about this gang stuff.
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It kind of fit what we thought
was going on in the world at the time.
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And they switched from gathering evidence
to suddenly,
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"Oh, my God. This must be it."
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So we're now suspect-based.
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We're out to prove
that these are the guys who did it.
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[newsman] You ever heard of a gang by
the name of the 8th and H Crew?
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- No, I haven't.
- Never heard of 'em?
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No, not a gang.
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- [newsman] You live around here?
- Yes.
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- Never heard of them?
- No.
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Never heard of, never seen 'em either.
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[man] 8th and H was a park
where buses
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and everyone transferred
to go wherever they go.
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And guys would go down
8th and H to see where guys,
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"Hey, what you doin', man?
I'll meet you up at 8th and H"
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because it was convenient
to meet up there.
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And so dudes started referring
to different guys
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as the 8th Street Crew.
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We was basically like a family.
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We all went to school together.
Different schools.
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We all met up on the basketball courts.
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We young, running around,
having fun, going to the go-go.
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[man 1] You had the go-go bands.
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[man 2] It's pretty much our own sound.
It's D.C. sound.
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And we, like, represented
where we lived at.
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And we may occasionally bump
a couple people
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or something like that and...
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And we started fighting.
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Farthest someone would get
is hit in the head with a bat.
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Or you know, black eye.
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Some stitches.
But we wasn't doing no killing.
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[woman] And whenever the go-go bands
were playing, they'd ask, you know,
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like who's in the house or, you know,
is 8th and H Crew in the house?
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It just meant
you lived in that neighborhood.
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And as soon as I went out
into the community,
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I became suspicious of the police story
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because people in the community
said they weren't aware of a gang.
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And police insisted there was a gang.
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And a gang creates an image
in the community, you know, panic.
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It makes people angrier.
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It's a gang.
It's, you know, it becomes vicious.
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[pounding]
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[man] Open up the door.
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[newscaster] Yesterday morning,
D.C. Police fanned out
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to arrest six members
of the crew on charges of murder.
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They just started snatching everybody
out of the neighborhood.
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D.C was going through a purge.
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They startled my family.
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Came in about 6:30, seven o'clock.
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Flying-- Helicopters flying over.
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Lights, police lights all outside.
Came in.
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Took me out.
Put me in the back of the police car.
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They would jump out and grab all of us.
Put us in the car and try to take us down.
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Just to question us.
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I was like, "Oh, this some...
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This some bullshit."
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I mean, it was like,
they were just kicking down doors.
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[man] Sunday, December the 9th, 1984,
they kicked my door in.
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I had never been arrested.
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I had finished high school
when I was 17 years old.
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I was gonna go in the military.
I was going to college.
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Police drove us to 8th and H
where they put is in the paddy wagon
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to make it look like these the guys
that hang out there on 8th and H.
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[newscaster] Police say these men
are members of a gang
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which was known as the 8th and H Crew.
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There are still other members of the gang
and police say there may be other arrests.
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[Trainum] Their approach was kind of
like a shotgun approach.
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You kind of round in
all the usual suspects,
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start putting them in the box,
squeezing them and see what comes out.
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[Sinclair] You get a 15-year-old
and they're telling him he going to jail,
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or this gonna happen to him, or this gonna
happen to him, that's scary.
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That's very scary.
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You lie to say anything.
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[woman] When they came to the house
that Sunday morning,
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got him out of the bed,
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they said they was gonna talk to him.
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They didn't tell me he was under arrest
for murder or anything.
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They did not request
for his parents or attorney.
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Clifton didn't have nobody
to speak for him.
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[detective] Do you have any objections
to this videotaping taking place?
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No.
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Have any promises been made to you
in return for your statement?
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Excuse me.
Could you go by that one again?
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Sure.
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Have any promises been made to you...
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Have I promised you anything
for talking to me today?
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No, you haven't.
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[Williams] Cliff came up very high
on the suggestibility scale.
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His I.Q. was measured at 69.5.
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[Mary] Clifton not retarded.
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Special needs. Slow learner.
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That was Clifton problem.
He was a slow learner.
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Cliff didn't understand...
what he was being asked to sign.
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- Do you remember signing the rights card?
- Yes.
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- Did you read the card?
- Yes.
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Back then, we were not videotaping
interrogations from start to finish.
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We were only doing what we call,
the "recap video."
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We're here today to talk to you
about the death of...
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the lady in the alley at 8th and H Street.
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Why don't you start, tell us everything
that you know about that.
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I came home from school.
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I came across H Street...
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up Ninth Street...
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to the alley... the end of the alley.
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I seen Monk dragging the lady
into the alley.
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He slammed the lady.
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Chrissy hit her.
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Burt... hit her.
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He dragged her.
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Snot Rag hit her and dragged her.
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Derek stomped, Fella hit her.
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Bobo hit her.
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Levy was standing over top of her.
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When you see these recap videos,
a lot of times people will say,
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well, look, just the story flows,
how cold they are.
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That it's being factual.
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They've rehearsed this again
and again and again.
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So all of the manipulation,
the lies about the evidence,
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the promises of leniency,
that's all off camera.
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Snot Rag said, "Stop, Derek."
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So that's when Snot Rag and Burt
pulled her to the cut of the alley.
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Levy...
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stuck a pole in her.
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Where was she when he stuck
the pole in her?
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Right at the cut of the alley.
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[Trainum] He was getting
critical facts wrong.
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The crime scene analysis puts most
of the assault inside of the garage.
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Yarborough is saying
that he's over on 9th Street
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watching the attack occur
on the other end of the alley.
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[detective] How far were you from exactly
where they had the lady down?
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I can't recall it all from here.
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Was it as long as a basketball court?
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- It was just about that length.
- Full court?
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Yeah. Just like that.
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At first, they put it at a distance
of a basketball court.
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They begin to challenge him
and he begins to shorten the distance.
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[detective 2] And tell me,
what you could see at that distance?
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There was...
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Not, not quite that far.
Not quite that far.
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- Well, what could you see?
- I could see what they was doing.
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You watch the statement
and you hear these things.
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And you think...
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Oh, boy, these are-- He's giving details.
This is uncomfortable.
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But then, look at the big picture.
Look at the other things that he says.
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We know those other things aren't true.
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Who is this?
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Calvin.
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[detective 1] All right.
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And what did Calvin do?
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He was fighting.
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He stomped her.
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Would you describe what you mean
by stomp her?
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He was... [kicks chair]
kicking,
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- putting his feet down on her.
- Okay.
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[Williams] What he meant by a stomp,
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is somebody stepping hard
down on somebody.
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Kicking them but they're on the ground
and you're putting full weight on them.
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Stomping somebody leaves
a distinct injury on the body.
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Mrs. Fuller didn't have any
of those injuries. Not one.
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Certainly not the ten
that Cliff described.
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[Williams] Cliff also, at some point,
in his statement,
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describes her blouse
being ripped off of her.
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And he doesn't only describe it,
he gestures.
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He goes like this. It's kind of like
Hulk Hogan in the '80s,
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you know, pulling off, you know,
ripping open his shirt.
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That didn't happen.
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When Monk slammed her,
Chrissy hit him...
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hit her first.
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And Derek was beating her with a stick.
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Monk ripped her blouse off her.
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[Williams] She was wearing a sweater.
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And the sweater was pushed up her chest,
not ripped off of her.
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Part of what's interesting
about Cliff making that gesture about it,
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having been ripped off like that,
is that Detective Sanchez Serrano
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admits that in interrogating Cliff,
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he mimicked ripping off his shirt
and feigned rage at Cliff
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for not telling what he knew.
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[detective] Now tell me the truth.
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Isn't it true...
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or is it true that you went in that garage
and saw what was going on?
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Isn't that the truth?
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No, I swear to God. No.
I didn't go in there.
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- Isn't it true?
- No. I swear.
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People with low I.Q.'s are particularly
likely to give false confessions.
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Which means that they are likely to defer
to the opinion of another,
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and to tell somebody what they think that
that other person wants to hear.
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I never dreamed that I would be
the living proof of someone
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that was being falsely accused
of something they didn't do.
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[detective] You gotta tell me, brother.
We want to hear it all.
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Tell us exactly what--
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- This shit give me nightmares.
- Okay. Well...
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[Willliams] The two most central witnesses
for the government
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were Harry Bennett and Calvin Alston,
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who are young, vulnerable teenagers.
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They just went and got the lady
and took her back there.
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Okay. But what do you mean?
To take her back there or...
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In other words,
they trying to say, go rob the lady.
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- Go rob the lady?
- Yeah.
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Okay. Who was in the alley?
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And we'll go to a book this time, okay?
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So you can identify the people for us.
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Before we came
into this interview room today
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you had a conversation with me
in the room just beside this one.
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- Correct?
- Right.
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- And did we draw a diagram at that time?
- Yes, sir.
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[Alston] They showed me
the piece of paper.
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It had names.
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A lot of scribble on the paper.
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But it had charts, pies drew on the paper.
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They would tell me I was gonna
either take a piece of the pie...
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A slice of the pie, or take the whole pie
and go down by myself.
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At first, I thought they was joking.
To be honest, I thought they was joking.
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The more I explained,
they didn't want to hear.
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When I told them I was at work,
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they didn't want to hear that.
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They said, "No, he was with Cliff",
that I was in the alley.
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I was scared.
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And I took a piece of the pie.
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Now, you stated to me before...
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that in the garage...
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was Levy, Monk.
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Now, who are these other people
standing out here?
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- Would you tell me who was out there?
- Sure.
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What they were doing?
Speak up, sir, please.
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Burt was standing there.
Kelvin was standing out there.
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Chrissy, Darryl, Ernest, Cliff...
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Snot Rag and the Monk.
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And me.
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[detective] Do you feel better now
that you've told us this on tape?
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- [Alston] Yeah, I feel much better.
- [detective] Why?
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Because I don't want--
I didn't have nothing to do with it.
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I don't want it all to fall down on me
if they saying I did it.
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I just want the thing to get over with
so I can live my life like a free man.
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[Williams] These teenagers make
a shortsighted decision
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to lie and say that they are witnesses
to something they didn't actually see.
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But we didn't have the full facts
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that would've helped tell
a different account of this crime
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and would've helped show
that Cliff's statement...
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and the statement of Alston
and the statement of Bennett...
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those statements weren't true.
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[Trainum] I had begun a project
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where we were going back
and reviewing old homicide cases
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and trying to get information
into searchable databases.
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I was going through old files
that involved unusual cases,
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sexual assaults, things like that.
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And that's when I stumbled across
the Catherine Fuller case.
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And as I was going through it,
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I found this envelope
in the very, very back part,
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and on the outside it said "suspects".
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I opened up the envelope
and was going through it.
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And I had pictures of the people
who had been arrested.
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And then I came across this one picture.
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And I recognized him as a guy
named James McMillan.
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And I thought, what the hell is
his picture doing in with this group here?
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'Cause I knew McMillan.
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I knew him
because I had participated in his arrest
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only a few years before that,
actually back in 1992.
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[Williams] James McMillan commits,
essentially, the exact same murder
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as what happened to Catherine Fuller.
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He grabs a woman off the street,
he drags her through an alley.
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He beats her up. He sexually assaults her.
He sodomizes her.
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Mrs. Fuller was found naked
from the waist down
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with her sweater bunched up
around her breasts.
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McMillan's 1992 victim is found naked
from the waist down with her top,
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I believe it was also a sweater,
bunched up around her breasts.
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[Trainum] If Catherine Fuller's case
was open right now,
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McMillan would be my number one suspect.
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This guy has a vicious history.
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McMillan, he has been institutionalized
most of his life. Since, like, age 13.
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Any time he was involved in anything,
he brutally beat women.
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He was just out for a short while
when this occurred.
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[Trainum] He lived in that area.
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In fact, he lived in a house
that backed up to the alley
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where Catherine Fuller was found.
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It turns out that he was robbing women
in that area.
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And when he robbed them,
he would walk up to 'em
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and just pound the ever loving hell
out of 'em.
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Just viciously, you know, beat them.
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[Williams] On the day of the murder,
a street vendor saw McMillan in the alley
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acting suspiciously,
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hiding something under his coat,
and remember,
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the object used to sexually assault
Mrs. Fuller has never been found.
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The police showed the street vendor
the photograph book of young men
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in the neighborhood.
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And he identified McMillan
and another guy.
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But he didn't know their names.
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He had just identified them
based on their face.
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The police knew their names.
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By the time of defendant's trial,
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McMillan was in jail
for having robbed and assaulted...
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two other middle-aged women
in that neighborhood.
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Defendants were on trial
for an alleged robbery and assault
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that spun out of control into this murder
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of a middle-aged woman
in this neighborhood.
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I mean, it's the most important evidence
you can imagine.
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And the defendants didn't know about it.
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[newscaster] The victim, Catherine Fuller,
48 years old, mother of six.
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The defendants, nine young men,
a 17-year-old girl,
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members of the 8th and H Crew.
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In December,
several suspects were rounded up.
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Today, they were together again
for the start of their trial.
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Anyone convicted will end up serving
at least the prime of their adulthood,
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the next 20 years, in prison.
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[Mary] At the trial, I was still thinking
that he's coming home.
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Still thinking that he's coming home.
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[Turner] There was not a doubt
of uncertainty in my mind.
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When you're innocent, you know that,
well, they got facts,
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then it's gonna prove that I'm not guilty.
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That's what I was looking forward to.
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Let's get to court.
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Let's get this done so I can hurry up
and get on with my life.
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Sparks flew at the trial today
of ten members
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of the 8th and H Crew gang.
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News Seven's Gary Reals is at
the trial now with a live report. Gary.
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This is the most publicized case
in the history of Washington D.C.
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The Washington Post did stories about it.
The Nightly News did stories about it.
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There were nine policemen who spent...
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And they were reporting stuff
that they heard from the prosecution.
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[newsman] Assistant U.S. Attorney
Jerry Goren beckoned the jurors
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to relive what happened
in that alley that night.
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He said it was a different world
than the jurors might know.
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A world where loyalty to comrades
is so much greater than to community.
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[Turner] The United States Attorney
himself, Jerry Goren,
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he was putting on a smoke and mirrors
for the public.
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[newsman] Jerry Goren told the jury
it all began with a song in a park.
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A song about getting paid,
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and ended in a brutal, senseless murder.
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I guess they were listening to the music
and just kinda hanging out.
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And I can remember the song
just as if it was yesterday.
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Talking about money, money,
I gotta have some money.
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00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:26,710
[Turner] "A dollar bill is a friend
of mine, I need some money."
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That just happened to be the top
go-go rap song of that year.
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[Williams] The prosecution made it
sound like singing that song,
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that was the motivation
for committing the crime.
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They thought that...
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they just wanted to rob somebody.
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That's as close of a theory
as you ever get from the prosecution.
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[Turner] Back in 1984,
we're talking about October the 1st, 1984.
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It was the first of the month.
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Everyone in this entire neighborhood
is doing their shopping
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on the first of the month.
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00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,596
You get your deals.
You're getting your sales.
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People are cashing checks constantly.
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If there's 20 to 30 people
back here in the alley
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behind 8th and H
between four and six o'clock, rush hour,
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I'm sure it would sound
almost like a football game
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in this little close proximity.
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[Williams] At trial, there's no members
of the community
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who say that they saw this rowdy group
that crosses a street
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and then assaults a woman in the alley.
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00:27:46,539 --> 00:27:52,921
It's only these young,
vulnerable teenagers who...
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who are giving statements.
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[newsman] Fourteen-year-old
Maurice Thomas was an eyewitness
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to the murder of Catherine Fuller
last year.
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Two weeks ago,
he testified for the government.
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Maurice Thomas. He testified against
several of the defendants in the case.
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He claimed to be in the alley
across from the alley
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where Miss Fuller was assaulted.
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[Gaines] These are very vulnerable
young people.
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One, for their age,
and two, because of their circumstances.
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[Williams] When people responded
to a subpoena
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to come down and talk with detectives,
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they would receive a financial incentive
for coming in.
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00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:38,550
I believe the testimony in our case
was $35 each time they came down.
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That's not an insignificant
amount of money
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to a teenager in an impoverished area
of Northeast D.C. in the 1980s.
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[Turner] People knew that this
was a hustle.
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They found out that the way to get money
was to just go down there,
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act like you knew something
about the 8th and H Street case,
447
00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,026
they gonna pay you.
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00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:59,738
People found out fast.
They gonna pay you.
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00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:03,158
They paid Maurice.
That was the running rumor.
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00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:06,369
Anybody who took Maurice down there
because he was a juvenile,
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00:29:06,453 --> 00:29:08,788
so someone had to take him down there.
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00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,875
So then, it became a competition thing
to take Maurice down there
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00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:15,044
'cause everybody know
they could pick up a extra $30
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00:29:15,128 --> 00:29:16,838
each time you take Maurice down there.
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00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:29,309
Before trial, when I was locked up,
the first couple of months, I was raped.
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00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:30,643
So, they knew this.
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00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,566
[Turner] I wanted out.
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And I actually said
what they wanted me to say.
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00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:46,034
That everything that they said
that happened in that alley...
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they had me say that
in front of the court.
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00:29:50,371 --> 00:29:54,709
I had to say that in front of the court
if I wanted a lesser sentence.
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[newscaster] It was the moment
that highlighted the government's case.
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Twenty-year-old Calvin Alston
squatted in front of the jury box
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with his two hands clenched
as if holding a pipe,
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00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,099
he reenacted how, he says,
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00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:14,521
Levy Rouse assaulted Catherine Fuller
with a foot long pipe.
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00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,689
Alston facing 20 years to life
468
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,983
for his guilty plea
to second-degree murder,
469
00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:23,613
admitted he was the one who first
targeted Catherine Fuller for robbery,
470
00:30:23,696 --> 00:30:26,157
getting paid, as he put it.
471
00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:30,745
For 11 months, I went over the testimony
with the prosecution team
472
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,914
and some of the witnesses in the case.
473
00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:37,377
And they lined us up, they questioned us,
474
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:41,756
they deleted this, added this,
scratched this out,
475
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,344
until they were satisfied with going forth
with the testimony that they wanted.
476
00:30:46,427 --> 00:30:49,138
[newscaster] By pleading guilty
to second-degree murder,
477
00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:53,893
Calvin Alston faces the prospect
of 15 years to life in prison
478
00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:58,815
instead of the possibility
of 35 years to life if convicted at trial.
479
00:30:59,899 --> 00:31:01,484
It was gut wrenching.
480
00:31:01,568 --> 00:31:03,444
[newscaster] He testified
that Charles Turner
481
00:31:03,528 --> 00:31:05,655
suddenly shoved her into an alley.
482
00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:08,700
That Levy Rouse hit her over the head
with a two by four.
483
00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:13,872
Alston said he then walked up
and punched Mrs. Fuller and kicked her.
484
00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:17,458
He said Monk Harris kicked her,
Christopher Turner kicked her,
485
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:20,670
Kelvin Smith kicked her,
Levy Rouse kicked her
486
00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,547
and Charles Turner kicked her.
487
00:31:23,673 --> 00:31:26,801
I told him, "If you had anything
to do with it, tell the truth about it."
488
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:32,098
They'll be lighter on you.
But he's told me up to the last minute...
489
00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:36,603
I talked to him yesterday evening.
He say he didn't know anything about it.
490
00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,939
[Turner] I knew that I have never killed
no one in my life.
491
00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:42,984
And I knew that they didn't kill
no one in their life.
492
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:47,155
But no matter what we said,
or what was said,
493
00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:49,699
we was gonna go down for their case.
494
00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:52,577
Tomorrow,
this case is expected to shift gears.
495
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,748
The prosecution is likely to rest
and the defense will begin.
496
00:31:56,831 --> 00:32:00,043
Some of the ten defendants say
they have alibis.
497
00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:02,670
It is unknown what the others will do.
498
00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:06,341
[Williams] If you're defending
seven people
499
00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:13,139
who are on trial for their lives
against a brutal attack,
500
00:32:13,222 --> 00:32:16,601
you can't just be pointing at some,
you know, phantom in the air.
501
00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:18,436
You gotta have something concrete.
502
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:23,816
But because the prosecution
withheld the evidence
503
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,737
tying McMillan to our crime scene,
504
00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:32,909
the defense was limited to what,
I think of as a,
505
00:32:32,992 --> 00:32:35,745
"Not me, maybe them, defense."
506
00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:39,165
[newsman] Defense attorneys clamored
to cut themselves away from Rouse
507
00:32:39,248 --> 00:32:42,835
who has been named by four
different eyewitnesses as the one
508
00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:45,880
who so brutally assaulted
Catherine Fuller last year.
509
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,174
We don't want to have
any involvement with him.
510
00:32:48,257 --> 00:32:49,092
STEVEN WEBB'S ATTORNEY
511
00:32:49,175 --> 00:32:51,511
We feel the evidence
is not overwhelming against Steven Webb.
512
00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:55,181
From my view of the jurors
when they were told that,
513
00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:56,307
there was some concern.
514
00:32:56,391 --> 00:32:58,518
And I feel that that concern
is gonna overflow
515
00:32:58,601 --> 00:33:01,938
and may positively or negatively affect
the outcome of the jury's verdict.
516
00:33:02,021 --> 00:33:03,106
And I'm opposed to it.
517
00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:06,651
I'm adamantly opposed to it
at this late stage in the proceedings.
518
00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:08,736
I really didn't like my lawyer
519
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:12,073
because everything that came out
of her mouth at the time was,
520
00:33:12,156 --> 00:33:12,991
"Take a deal".
521
00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:17,870
I told her that I'm not taking a deal
to a murder that I didn't commit.
522
00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:21,124
And man, it was a frenzy.
523
00:33:21,207 --> 00:33:24,502
All the lawyers was just like...
sharks in the water.
524
00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:29,173
Instead of the lawyers getting together
and try to figure out what was going on.
525
00:33:29,257 --> 00:33:32,510
It was more like, "I'm defending--
This is my client and that's it.
526
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:34,762
And we don't care
what they say about your client."
527
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:39,392
The admission of one of the confessions,
of one of the co-defendants
528
00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:43,312
which tended to corroborate
the government witnesses.
529
00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:44,897
There are numerous issues...
530
00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:48,067
Because they didn't have
any kind of unifying defense,
531
00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:49,444
that's the best they could do.
532
00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,947
[newscaster] The seven women
and five men of the jury
533
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,366
were taken back to their hotel late today
534
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:57,076
for the rest of the weekend.
535
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,997
After six days of deliberations,
they still have not returned
536
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,417
any of the 40 verdicts
they must reach in the case.
537
00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:10,173
Well, I know, in my case,
I kind of really wanted to make sure
538
00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:15,053
that some of those kids didn't have
to spend years and years in prison
539
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:16,637
if they were innocent.
540
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,098
And I think
we were really looking for that.
541
00:34:19,182 --> 00:34:25,480
But as jury members, you can only really
go by the evidence that's presented.
542
00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:28,483
You know, you have no idea
to thinking that there were
543
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,778
some other alternative views
as to what happened.
544
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,454
[newscaster] There weren't any smiles
inside the well of the court
545
00:34:41,537 --> 00:34:43,915
as the verdicts were announced.
546
00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:48,628
Behind the bulletproof shield, there were
many stares and an occasional flinch.
547
00:34:48,711 --> 00:34:51,506
Timothy "Snot Rag" Catlett. Guilty.
548
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,758
Levy Rouse, guilty.
549
00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:56,344
Kelvin "Hollywood" Smith, guilty.
550
00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:59,097
Charles "Fella" Turner, guilty.
551
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:00,640
Steven Webb, guilty.
552
00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:05,144
Twenty-six-year-old Russell Overton,
known as "Bobo", guilty.
553
00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:08,689
And 17-year-old
Clifton Yarborough, guilty.
554
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,567
Yarborough's relatives
left the courthouse in tears.
555
00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:15,071
Clifton confessed on videotape
the day of his arrest.
556
00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:18,950
But still spurned a handsome
government offer several months ago
557
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:22,161
to plead guilty and probably end up
with a light sentence.
558
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:26,582
I just don't understand it.
559
00:35:28,417 --> 00:35:30,461
I just don't understand it.
560
00:35:30,545 --> 00:35:31,879
How it go so far.
561
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:41,139
I remember,
that even after the sentencing,
562
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:45,560
that Clifton did not understand
that he could not go home.
563
00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:49,147
He thought it was all over now
and he was free to go.
564
00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,607
He just didn't get it.
565
00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:55,611
I was mad because I know
they had nothing to do with it.
566
00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:56,988
I knew it in my heart.
567
00:35:58,823 --> 00:35:59,699
It's not their character.
568
00:36:01,576 --> 00:36:02,410
No.
569
00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:08,040
[newscaster] Also convicted of murder
was 19-year-old Christopher Turner.
570
00:36:08,124 --> 00:36:10,251
As the guilty verdicts were announced,
571
00:36:10,334 --> 00:36:13,671
Christopher Turner
slumped in his chair and cried.
572
00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:20,928
They sold the public on this theory,
the witch hunt, I would call it,
573
00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:22,847
that the government set out on,
574
00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:25,808
got the better of them
and their judgments.
575
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:36,194
I know that I couldn't do...
27 years, 28 years,
576
00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:40,698
after, you know...
I know I couldn't do it, you know.
577
00:36:40,781 --> 00:36:42,074
[man] What are you going to do?
578
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:50,291
Appeal, which basically
is where all my faith is in.
579
00:37:12,355 --> 00:37:14,023
[Turner] Almost 26 years in prison.
580
00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:19,946
I was fortunate enough to convince
the parole board to let me out.
581
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:25,117
This is the block that I grew up on
582
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:28,079
right directly around the corner
from Mrs. Fuller's house.
583
00:37:31,457 --> 00:37:34,210
I knew everyone on this block
my entire life.
584
00:37:35,378 --> 00:37:42,051
My grandmother, she bought this house,
I think, in 1939 for 12,000.
585
00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:45,471
All the way on the backside, my bedroom.
586
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,768
My father was born in this house.
My brothers and sisters.
587
00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:54,939
Now, looking back I can only imagine
what some of the things
588
00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:57,817
that they had to go through
and put up with at that time.
589
00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:01,362
[Turner] Police shattered
this neighborhood
590
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:06,575
because it divided so many friends,
it divided family members.
591
00:38:06,659 --> 00:38:07,493
It was just...
592
00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:10,621
It was just the whole neighborhood
just changed.
593
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:14,458
It crushed my family, literally.
I mean, my grandmother
594
00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:17,962
pretty much gave up her fight for cancer
when it happened.
595
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:23,301
And eventually,
my family lost the house. So, uh...
596
00:38:26,178 --> 00:38:28,264
[Carlos] It was just like,
no more family.
597
00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:31,642
I just be glad when it's over with,
598
00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:34,812
the truth come out,
all the fellas get released.
599
00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:08,095
It took a long time and a lot
of investigation by a lot of people
600
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,389
to put together all the evidence
that we have now.
601
00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:15,978
[man] ...go live in three to five minutes.
There's a line establishing right here.
602
00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:20,024
If you want to try to get in for the
second case, you can stay in this line.
603
00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:21,942
Again, folks,
the three to five-minute line
604
00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,819
is now being established
for the first case.
605
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:26,530
There's no more general seating
for the first case.
606
00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:30,534
With me being out here
six years before those guys, um...
607
00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:31,744
Already it's been six years.
608
00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,246
Doesn't seem like
I've been home six years.
609
00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:39,752
And the fact they still in and still
serving time, I know it weighs on 'em.
610
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,923
[Williams] This is it.
As high as you can go.
611
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,343
I am hopeful.
612
00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:51,722
I can't say that I think
it's overwhelmingly likely.
613
00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:55,893
I also don't think that, you know,
our backs are against the wall either.
614
00:39:55,976 --> 00:39:58,020
I'm hopeful.
615
00:40:01,023 --> 00:40:03,275
[Gaines] I'm like, why am I so emotional?
You...
616
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:05,152
Yeah. I'll see you once you get in.
617
00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:06,695
- Okay.
- [woman] Are you going inside?
618
00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:07,696
- Yeah. Yeah.
- Yeah.
619
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:09,573
- Yeah. We're going in.
- [Gaines] How do we get in?
620
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,034
- [woman] Are you nervous?
- No. Never.
621
00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:16,122
[man] Mr. Williams.
622
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,874
Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice,
and may it please the court.
623
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:23,212
In Brady v. Maryland, this court
established the now familiar principle
624
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:25,589
that the prosecution must disclose
to the defense
625
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:29,009
all favorable and material information.
626
00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,054
This case involves a clear violation
of that principle.
627
00:40:32,138 --> 00:40:34,557
Here, the prosecution
suppressed information
628
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,434
that a serial assaulter of women
629
00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:40,396
had been seen acting suspiciously
at the crime scene before police arrived.
630
00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:43,607
The question for this court
631
00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,235
is whether
there is a reasonable probability
632
00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:48,737
that the jury would have reached
a different verdict
633
00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:52,324
if it had had turned over
the McMillan evidence to the court.
634
00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:55,911
[Gaines] I've had
so many hopes for them.
635
00:40:58,038 --> 00:40:59,498
They just haven't turned out.
636
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:04,170
There's just a part of me
that's just afraid to hope.
637
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:09,049
And yet, in spite of that,
I know that I do hope.
638
00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:13,637
I hope they see the case for what it...
639
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,347
- Really is.
- Really is.
640
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:16,265
Really was.
641
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,726
[man 1] All the lies they've been told
and everything.
642
00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:21,979
[man 2] We want them held accountable
for what's going on.
643
00:41:22,062 --> 00:41:25,441
Clifton was about 15
when he took this picture.
644
00:41:25,524 --> 00:41:28,360
This is the way he looked
when he got locked up.
645
00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,237
That little baby face.
646
00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:33,032
[man] He still got that same smile.
Do you ever notice?
647
00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:36,535
Cliff, that's one thing
he loved to do is dress.
648
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:41,081
He outdress me.
He liked to impress the girls.
649
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,209
That's what he liked to do.
650
00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:46,629
I think Clifton got over everything.
All he want to do is come home.
651
00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:47,713
That's all he want.
652
00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:51,467
He really want to come
before something happen to his mother.
653
00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:53,511
That's all he want.
654
00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:57,139
[woman] This was kind of
guaranteed to be bad
655
00:41:57,223 --> 00:42:01,018
for the defendants in the sense
that without any alternative theory
656
00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:03,854
it was a circular firing squad.
657
00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:08,234
And it was, you know, you should believe
the guy who doesn't incriminate me.
658
00:42:08,317 --> 00:42:11,320
But of course, you should believe him
as to everybody else.
659
00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:13,531
All ten of these people saying this,
660
00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:17,493
it created the worst of all
possible worlds for the defendants.
661
00:42:19,161 --> 00:42:21,288
Why is it, that in the end,
662
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:25,209
the government's witnesses
were two people who were charged
663
00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:27,253
and were making a deal
with the government,
664
00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,380
and who had reasons
to make a deal with the government,
665
00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:31,257
and a 14-year-old boy?
666
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:35,594
The objective crime scene evidence,
667
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:38,222
in addition
to the alternative perpetrator theory,
668
00:42:38,305 --> 00:42:42,810
would have presented an overwhelmingly
powerful case of innocence.
669
00:42:42,893 --> 00:42:46,730
It certainly would've been enough
to be a reasonable probability
670
00:42:46,814 --> 00:42:49,024
of the jury finding reasonable doubt.
58501
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