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[woman] Is there any musicalartist that I would kill for?
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[newsman] One fan has beenso abusive to this reporter
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that she's obtaineda court restraining order,
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keeping him away from her.
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[clamoring]
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[Loretta] But a suicideand then a murder?
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{\an8}My name's Major Loretta Greene,
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{\an8}and I'm a detective with
the Memphis Police Department.
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[birds chirping]
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Detective work isn't just a job,
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it's a calling.
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If it ain't in you,you'll end up burning out.
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So you have to really wantsomething out of it.
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[sizzling]
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It's like motherhood.
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[laughs]
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It's not always fun.
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- It's a calling.
- Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
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But you got to pay attention.
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The world doesn't wantthese kids to thrive,
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so I have to make sure they do.
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I nurture themlike I nurture my cases.
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I don't miss anything.
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Even before my husband passed,
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I tried to be aroundas much as possible,
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cooked dinner, homework.
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Working and being their mamafull-time is hard,
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but it's worth it.
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Police work is my calling,but family is everything.
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Can you tell us how you started
to piece these cases together?
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[Loretta] I got a callon a cold case
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involving blunt force traumain Nashville.
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Tiffany Long.I went to check it out.
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{\an8}When did her sister sayshe found her, again?
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[investigator] Around 7:00that morning.
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Sister was gonemost of the weekend,
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but found her when she got back.
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[Loretta] Did you check her out,
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the sister?
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{\an8}She's accounted for.
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{\an8}Was on a date.
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You got any witnesses?
A receipt?
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You know that Whitney song?
"If six of y'all went out"?
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Lighten up. I'm just asking.
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You can't be too careful.
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[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
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[Loretta] Murder's not alwaysas complicated as people think.
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It's got some rules to it.
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Most of 'em aren't random.
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That's why we check the husband,the boyfriend,
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the last person they saw.
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It's usually an acquaintanceor someone's first stop
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before a bigger crime.
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A robbery or deal gone wrong,
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even with a serial killer.
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But yeah,
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those are rare.
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So...
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We're thinking our killer
comes up from behind, right?
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Bang.
Tiffany falls into the wall.
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Maybe she tries
to get to her phone.
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Anyway, she goes down.
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Then he stands over her,
straddles her.
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Bam, bam, bam.
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Blood on the floor.
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He drops the hammer.
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{\an8}Tiffany bleeds out or what?
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(indiscernible)
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Can I see the pictures?
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Damn.
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Did the sister give you
her social media accounts?
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- [investigator] Yeah.
- Text me those, please.
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[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
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[car door closes]
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{\an8}[busy chatter]
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{\an8}- Hey, now.
- Hi. How are you doing?
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I'm too old to be making
these out-of-town trips,
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and I'm only 25 years old.
[chuckles]
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Social media is such a great
resource for us nowadays.
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[scoffs]
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I can't tell youhow many cases I've solved
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thanks to Facebook, Instagram.
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I had a murder case,
two guys rob and kill a man.
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A few hours later,
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one of them posts pictures
of the stuff they stole
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from inside the man's car.
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[laughs]
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Just telling on theyselves.
It's crazy.
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People think,just because you're
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behind a handleand some filters,
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the truth won't still come out.
[scoffs]
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I know it's not the most...
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technical process.
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But if you know
what you're looking for...
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I knew it.
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[siren wails]
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It all started with junk food,believe it or not.
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About a year ago,
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we were assisting
with a case in Arkansas.
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There was a woman murdered
in her home.
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Dorothy Daye.
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At first, they thoughtall the usual things.
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We interviewed the husband.
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Alibi was tight.
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So I went back to the evidence.
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There had to have beensomething we missed.
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I'm looking at this evidence,and it's striking to me.
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All that stuff is regular
in my house,
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but Ms. Daye was white.
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I've never met an old white
woman that ate Hot Cheetos.
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Definitely never seen
a white woman in a bonnet.
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[laughs]
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So at first, I'm thinking,
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"Well, okay. Ms. Dorothy's
got soul, I guess."
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Whoever this murderer was
stayed awhile.
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Ate.
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That's what seemed odd to me.
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They even triedto clean up a little.
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Just an odd scene.
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Eventually, it hit me.
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I said, "Hey,
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I think we dealing
with a sister here.
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The killer sounds like
a Black woman to me."
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What did the other
officers think?
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They didn't want to hear
that shit.
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Said it was all circumstantial.
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Apparently they caught
a homeless man a few days later
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and arrested him.
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He ended up getting convicted
on something else.
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I figuredit was over and done with,
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but I kept my eyes and ears open
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- because I had a feeling.- [siren wailing in distance]
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{\an8}About five months later,
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{\an8}I stumbled on a case outof Fayetteville.
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It seemedpretty straightforward.
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Four women, all strippersworking at the same club,
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killed and robbed a manin his home.
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They had car trouble.
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A man stops themon the side of the road
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and offers to help them.
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They all go
to the man's house,
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where he's got a workshop.
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Later, witnesses say
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they heard a commotion
and cars fleeing the scene.
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After a brief manhunt,we caught up to the four women.
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Three wouldn't talk.
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That fourth one, though...[scoffs]
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She was mad.
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Eventually, she told me
there was another girl there
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who hung the rest of 'em
out to dry.
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When we found the car,
we took photos.
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It was stolenfrom out of state.
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Apparently the whole robbery
and murder
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was this girl Carmen's fault.
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She was a dancer from Texas,
new girl,
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and she would only dance
to [bleep] songs.
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[laughs]
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Exclusively.
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Carmen was a big fan
and was obsessed with her.
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She wasn't even supposed to be
their driver.
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Another girl was
supposed to go with them,
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but she didn't show up to work.
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No one's seen her
or her boyfriend since.
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And how is this related to
the Dorothy Daye case?
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[exhales]
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For some detectives,
an answer is good enough.
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They're not trying to dig
if they don't have to.
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But...
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...there's similaritiesin all these cases.
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Serial killers are rare.
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Cases like thatcan make a career.
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And I get it... [laughs]
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it seems like wishful thinking.
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A Black female detectivestumbles onto
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a Black female serial killer.
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But the truth is,
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a killer like Carmen...
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just isn't on their radar.
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But I've seen this before.
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Seen what before?
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Black women falling
through the cracks.
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[Loretta] So I wasfollowing up on it.
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The man murderedin this stripper case,
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he was supposedly a nice guy.
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But if you check his Twitter,
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he seems like a jokesteror a provocateur.
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There's a number of tweetsdisparaging women, celebrities.
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It's mostly shit-talking,
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I guess,but it's still rude.
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He definitely had some wordsfor [bleep],
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mocking her, which seemslike nothing at first.
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This guy knew what he was doing,
going after [bleep].
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Her fans are serious.
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They call themselves the Hive
because she's the Queen Bee,
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and they are quick to stingif they need to.
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They are merciless online.
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You don't talk badabout the queen.
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[chuckles] They don't play.
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But Ralph...
loved riling them up.
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The woman in Arkansas,Ms. Daye, also, not a big fan.
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I had a hunch...the method,
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bludgeoned to deathin her home...
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I'm on the brink
of something big.
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And you sawDorothy's social media.
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Now this only seems unimportant
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if you don't know
about the Hive.
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If Carmen was
as big a fan as they say,
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she was definitely in the Hive.
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I just couldn't be sure
if Ralph was her first victim.
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I had to find out who else
this bee had stung.
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[laughs] That was good, right?
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Make sure you keep that
in there. [chuckles]
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{\an8}Hey. I'm Darryl Robinson,
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{\an8}and I've been a [bleep] stan
since the beginning.
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This queen thing is
a cute nickname for some people,
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but for me that's facts.
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Like, she is the Queen Bee,
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and we are her Hive
of dedicated devotees.
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Like, we sometimes get
a bad rap, but...
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we're family.
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We take care of each other.
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Like, we save seats
when waiting for the drops.
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We share pics
and exclusive info when we can.
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And we come for bitches
that try to step for her.
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Period. Just normal stuff.
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Look, I heard about the murders.
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And, uh, some detective thinks
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that someone from the Hive is
trying to kill people,
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but the Hive doesn't
kill people.
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Like, we correct bitches
who need to be corrected, but,
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like, whoever is doing thisis not one of us.
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They do not represent us,
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our community,
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our family.
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Like, we're not bad people.
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We just love this woman,
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and would do absolutelyanything for her.
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Like, I know I would.
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But...
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not, like, murder. [chuckles]
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No, I wouldn't.
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Yeah. Not, like...
not, like, murder.
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That's too far.
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Yeah.
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[birds chirping]
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[Loretta] When you startto run out of leads,
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you got to make your own.
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Uh, not make it up, but...
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I decided to look atunsolved murders
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with the same M.O. in Texas.
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I looked for victims
with blunt force trauma.
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[scoffs]
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And wouldn't you know it,
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I found one.
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In Houston.
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Khalid Woods was killedright in [bleep]'s hometown.
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{\an8}So I got my sisterto watch the kids,
264
00:13:22,690 --> 00:13:24,990
{\an8}and I'm here to asksome questions.
265
00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:28,330
{\an8}- [door opens]
- Hello, sir.
266
00:13:28,530 --> 00:13:30,160
My name is Detective
Loretta Greene
267
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,960
with Memphis PD.
268
00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,710
I was hoping to talk to
Khalid Woods' family.
269
00:13:34,910 --> 00:13:36,670
What about?
270
00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:38,800
Are you a relative?
271
00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,840
Yeah, he's-he's my brother.
272
00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,670
Okay.
273
00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:46,350
{\an8}I am so sorry for your loss,
really, I am.
274
00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:49,180
I just have a few
follow-up questions.
275
00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:52,180
- Was he a [bleep] fan?
- Huh?
276
00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:57,020
Was he into [bleep]?
Did he love her or hate her?
277
00:13:57,220 --> 00:14:00,030
Uh...
278
00:14:00,220 --> 00:14:02,740
No, um... No, I don't think so.
279
00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:04,320
Wh-Why would he?
280
00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,240
Just trying to clear
a few things up.
281
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,820
{\an8}I was looking at the photos,
282
00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:11,040
{\an8}and I noticed thathe had two teacups set up,
283
00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,160
{\an8}like he had company.
284
00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,790
- Were you home?
- Uh, no.
285
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:17,670
No, I wasn't, uh...
286
00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:19,460
I was in Dallas at the time.
287
00:14:19,660 --> 00:14:21,050
[Loretta] Okay.
288
00:14:21,250 --> 00:14:22,420
There was no forced entry?
289
00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:24,420
Usually in a case like this,
290
00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:27,510
crime of passion,
it is a loved one.
291
00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:31,180
Did he have a girlfriend
or an ex-girlfriend?
292
00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:33,890
Yeah, a girlfriend,
but she's dead.
293
00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:36,190
- Really?
- Yeah.
294
00:14:36,390 --> 00:14:39,190
- What happened?
- [bird squawks in distance]
295
00:14:39,390 --> 00:14:42,650
She killed herself
maybe a week before Khalid died.
296
00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:44,440
- Damn.
- Yeah.
297
00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,110
What was her name?
298
00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:47,820
Marissa.
299
00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:49,450
Marissa Jackson.
300
00:14:49,650 --> 00:14:51,790
Thank you, Talib.
301
00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:53,910
d d
302
00:14:54,110 --> 00:14:56,790
I found Marissa online.
303
00:14:56,990 --> 00:14:58,500
I knew I'd heard that name
before.
304
00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:00,960
I'd seen it in Ralph's tweets,
305
00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,880
the guy fromthe stripper murder.
306
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,670
Things are starting
to come together.
307
00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:09,090
When a young womantakes her own life,
308
00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:12,390
and then her boyfriend is killednot too long after,
309
00:15:12,590 --> 00:15:16,060
a good detective will finda connection between the two.
310
00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:19,690
Murder-suies are always
about love.
311
00:15:19,890 --> 00:15:23,650
Fucked-up love,
but love all the same.
312
00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:27,950
But a suicide and then a murder?
313
00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:29,490
[scoffs]
314
00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:31,740
That's motive.
315
00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:34,890
Now, that's worth
following up on.
316
00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:38,290
But the question becomes:
317
00:15:38,490 --> 00:15:42,170
who would thinkthe loss of Marissa
318
00:15:42,370 --> 00:15:46,440
necessitated the death
of Mr. Woods?
319
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:51,970
Dre. Looks like her friend.
320
00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:55,060
I wonder where she is.
We should talk to her.
321
00:15:55,260 --> 00:15:57,140
d d
322
00:15:57,340 --> 00:15:59,730
And guess what.
323
00:15:59,930 --> 00:16:02,940
The owner of that strip club
says he lost
324
00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:04,940
the start paperwork for Carmen.
325
00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:09,320
I bet that place has a list ofviolations as long as my arm.
326
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200
But he did give a description.
327
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,200
[typing]
328
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,390
[scoffs]
329
00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,090
Good for nothing.
330
00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:26,090
[laughs]
331
00:16:26,290 --> 00:16:29,440
We need to meet the Jacksons.
332
00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:37,100
d d
333
00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,700
[birds chirping]
334
00:16:41,290 --> 00:16:43,190
{\an8}Hello, Mrs. Jackson.
335
00:16:43,390 --> 00:16:45,440
My name's
Detective Loretta Greene.
336
00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,400
- We spoke on the phone earlier.
- Yes.
337
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,340
Come on in.
338
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,740
[Loretta] You havea lovely home.
339
00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:56,300
[Patricia] It's definitelya lot of house just for me.
340
00:16:58,300 --> 00:16:59,760
And here we are.
341
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,130
[laughs] That is so beautiful.
342
00:17:07,330 --> 00:17:10,650
[chuckles] We left it
the way it was.
343
00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:15,300
[Loretta] Did you knowher boyfriend, Khalid?
344
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:16,720
[Patricia] Not really.
345
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,850
I ran into her
one Saturday afternoon
346
00:17:19,050 --> 00:17:20,390
at the mall,
347
00:17:20,590 --> 00:17:22,350
and she was with him.
348
00:17:22,550 --> 00:17:24,600
She seemed happy.
349
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,270
And later that week, she came by
350
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:28,650
and asked me for
some rent money. [chuckles]
351
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:31,280
I really believe it was for her
and her...
352
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,700
roommate.
353
00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:36,830
Uh, but I gave it to her
anyways.
354
00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:38,830
Would you like some lemonade?
355
00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:40,080
[Loretta] Sure.
356
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,040
Was Marissa having any problems?
357
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,100
I mean, with Khalid or...
358
00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:52,170
I don't think so.
359
00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:54,320
Who really knows?
360
00:17:56,950 --> 00:18:00,020
- This is a handsome man.
- [Patricia chuckles]
361
00:18:00,210 --> 00:18:02,390
Is this Mr. Jackson?
362
00:18:02,590 --> 00:18:04,310
[Patricia] Harris. Yeah.
363
00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:06,730
My husband was very handsome.
364
00:18:06,930 --> 00:18:10,120
He passed in May.Prostate cancer.
365
00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:13,860
I am so sorry.
366
00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:16,590
You must be going through a lot
right now.
367
00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:22,800
[sighs]
368
00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:32,020
d d
369
00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:38,510
[Loretta] Is this
her friend Dre?
370
00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:42,890
I saw her in some photos
with Marissa.
371
00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:45,100
I was hoping
I could talk to her.
372
00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:46,740
Were they close?
373
00:18:53,710 --> 00:18:57,820
{\an8}Andrea was the foster child that
Harris and I took in,
374
00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:00,620
{\an8}but things didn't work out.
375
00:19:00,820 --> 00:19:05,410
I-I knew that Andrea wasn'tyour typical child,
376
00:19:05,610 --> 00:19:08,600
but I wanted
so badly to help her.
377
00:19:09,850 --> 00:19:12,210
It was a lot to deal with.
378
00:19:12,410 --> 00:19:14,710
And we, and we took her
to a child psychologist,
379
00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:17,760
and the state paid for it.
380
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,360
But Harris, he-he thought
she was a lost cause.
381
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,350
And what made him think that?
382
00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:25,030
Anything specific.
383
00:19:25,910 --> 00:19:28,850
Well, it was a sleepover.
384
00:19:29,050 --> 00:19:32,520
Um, it happened about a few
weeks after the talent show.
385
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,440
- d Charlie Daniels song...
- [kids laughing]
386
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,320
[d Gretchen Wilson:
"Redneck Woman"]
387
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,870
d Keeping it country d
388
00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:42,700
d Let me get a big "hell yeah" d
389
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:44,370
d From the redneck girlslike me d
390
00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:46,910
d Hell yeah! d
391
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:49,420
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
392
00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:52,710
- [boy] Stop.
- [girl] Boo, get off stage.
393
00:19:52,910 --> 00:19:55,460
- Stop.
- [Patricia] We did our best,
394
00:19:55,660 --> 00:19:58,130
but Andrea hadsuch a hard time at school.
395
00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:00,720
Those-those kids wereawful to her.
396
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,760
{\an8}- [laughs] What?
- [Dre singing on video]
397
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,760
{\an8}I totally forgot about this.
398
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,060
Good grief. [groans]
Thank you.
399
00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:10,190
I cannot believe
she would do that to herself.
400
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:11,440
Wild.
401
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,770
I loved Marissa.
402
00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:14,480
We were really good friends.
403
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,610
She was super funnyand super sweet.
404
00:20:16,810 --> 00:20:17,740
We roomed together
405
00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:19,610
at cheer camp,
it was so much fun.
406
00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:22,660
Andrea, she was
the Jacksons' foster child.
407
00:20:22,860 --> 00:20:24,870
And she showed up in,
like, fifth grade,
408
00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:27,750
and she was super weird
and super quiet.
409
00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,710
You know how
there's always that one kid
410
00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:33,420
that has a wheelie backpack
for just, like, way too long?
411
00:20:33,620 --> 00:20:35,750
Yeah, that was Andrea.
412
00:20:35,950 --> 00:20:38,420
Just... off.
413
00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:40,090
[Patricia] She was sensitive.
414
00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:41,800
So was Marissa.
415
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,930
I think that's whythey stayed so close.
416
00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:47,470
Uh, Harris, he-he didn't get it.
417
00:20:47,670 --> 00:20:50,310
I think men, in general,
don't get it.
418
00:20:50,510 --> 00:20:52,650
There's a closeness with girls
419
00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:55,730
that doesn't always have to mean
that they're...
420
00:20:55,930 --> 00:20:58,150
Well, you know, "funny."
421
00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:00,990
And even if she was,
422
00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:02,820
they loved each other.
423
00:21:03,020 --> 00:21:04,450
They needed each other.
424
00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:08,700
But Harris,he-he didn't get that.
425
00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:11,410
d d
426
00:21:11,610 --> 00:21:14,630
[Meghan] Marissa, yeah,she was a great friend, sister.
427
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:16,710
She was popular.
428
00:21:16,910 --> 00:21:19,800
{\an8}She always defended Andrea
when people made fun of her.
429
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,470
{\an8}Stood up for her in class.
430
00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:25,350
I think Marissa was just happy
to have a sister.
431
00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:28,220
Andrea definitely was, too.
432
00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,480
And they were inseparable.
433
00:21:30,670 --> 00:21:32,160
They made a good team.
434
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,210
Was Andrea into ****** when she
was younger?
435
00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:40,280
[laughs] Wow.
436
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,360
Yes. She really was.
437
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,280
She was obsessed.
She and Marissa.
438
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,160
They went to all the shows,
and they sang all the songs.
439
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,790
I-I think that's why Andrea did
the talent show,
440
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:59,380
so that she could be discovered
like [bleep].
441
00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:01,380
She was the biggest [bleep] fan.
442
00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:03,880
Like, above all fans ever.
443
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,470
It was crazy, you know,
but all the girls were.
444
00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:08,970
You know, even Marissa.
445
00:22:09,170 --> 00:22:11,220
We went to the concerts
and stuff.
446
00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:13,560
Well, I didn't.
447
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,560
Marissa,
she invited me one time,
448
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,690
but, you know,
after the whole sleepover thing,
449
00:22:19,890 --> 00:22:22,440
I didn't want to be around her.
450
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,150
Andrea.
451
00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:25,630
You mentioned a sleepover?
452
00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:29,780
Yes. For Marissa's birthday.
453
00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:32,870
{\an8}I knew that the girls didn'tlike Andrea,
454
00:22:33,070 --> 00:22:35,370
{\an8}but they were Marissa's friends,
455
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:38,880
{\an8}and I just thought thatthis could help them all bond.
456
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,630
That bitch tried to kill me.
[scoffs]
457
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:44,420
At a sleepover.
It was fucking insane.
458
00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:46,260
She wasn't even
supposed to be there.
459
00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:49,050
It was some real
Flowers in the Attic type shit.
460
00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:52,220
I mean, not with, like,
the incest or whatever,
461
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:55,310
but yeah, Marissa's parents made
Andrea stay in the attic.
462
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:57,980
Harris, h-he didn't want
Andrea getting in the way
463
00:22:58,180 --> 00:22:59,480
of Marissa's childhood.
464
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,020
We all used to do this thing
465
00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:03,320
where whoever fell asleep first
got slumbered.
466
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,450
And so, I got all the girls to
jump on top of Riss,
467
00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:09,410
and...
But it was fun, you know?
468
00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:12,830
And next thing you know, I'm
being yanked back by my ponytail
469
00:23:13,030 --> 00:23:14,830
and slammed to the ground hard,
470
00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:17,460
and Andrea is just on top of me,
choking me.
471
00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:19,330
And they're yelling,
"Andrea, stop. Andrea, stop!
472
00:23:19,530 --> 00:23:21,920
Please stop," and Riss is trying
to pull her off of me.
473
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:25,670
[sighs] I will never forget
the look on her face.
474
00:23:25,870 --> 00:23:26,670
[Patricia] It was horrible.
475
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:28,380
The girls were screaming.
476
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:30,100
Her eyes were just
all bugged out.
477
00:23:30,290 --> 00:23:32,390
Harris rushed in there
and he broke it up,
478
00:23:32,590 --> 00:23:34,390
but the damage was done.
479
00:23:34,590 --> 00:23:38,900
And Andrea, she just said shewas sorry she spilled the milk.
480
00:23:39,090 --> 00:23:40,650
I didn't know what that meant.
481
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:43,440
I didn't even realize
I got stabbed
482
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,740
until they got her off of me.
483
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,400
I had to go to the hospital.
484
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,910
I had to wear a neck brace
for the rest of the school year.
485
00:23:50,110 --> 00:23:51,530
Obviously couldn't cheer.
486
00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:53,200
My mom was pissed.
487
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,250
[Patricia] We paidfor the girl's medical bills.
488
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,670
Thank God the parents,
they-they didn't press charges.
489
00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:01,330
[Gwen] The Jacksons got rid ofAndrea shortly after that.
490
00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,420
It was quick,and I don't know,
491
00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:07,300
but I got back to eighth gradeand I never saw her again.
492
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:11,010
You know, it is just crazy
how you can say deuces
493
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:12,640
to your foster child like that.
494
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,970
I think she...
495
00:24:15,170 --> 00:24:17,140
I don't know.
That girl was...
496
00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:18,660
messed-up.
497
00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:23,000
Do you think Andrea
is dangerous?
498
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:27,080
[clock ticking softly]
499
00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:31,260
Can I hold on to this?
500
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,840
[clock chiming]
501
00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:39,890
[Patricia crying]
502
00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:45,340
I did everything that I could
for that child.
503
00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:48,760
I did, I did
everything I could... [crying]
504
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,220
We can only do so much,
us mothers.
505
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:54,100
I should've never left her.
506
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,810
I should've never let her leave.
507
00:24:56,010 --> 00:24:58,870
- [sobbing]
- Oh, honey. [shushes]
508
00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:01,940
[muffled whispering]
509
00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:04,110
You did your very best,
sweetheart, you did.
510
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:06,070
- [crying] I'm ashamed.
- You did your best.
511
00:25:06,270 --> 00:25:09,820
- I'm ashamed. I'm so ashamed.
- Oh.
512
00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:12,800
d d
513
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,100
[sighs softly]
514
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:26,600
Did you show her the photo?
515
00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:31,150
Yeah.
516
00:25:34,940 --> 00:25:37,910
Perfect. Thanks.
517
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,560
It's Carmen.
518
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,730
Our stripper confirmed it.
519
00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:46,190
[chuckles]
520
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:48,420
Wow.
521
00:25:57,550 --> 00:26:00,750
- [horn honks in distance]
- [railroad bell ringing]
522
00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:05,380
This is sensitive info,
so better let me do the talking.
523
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:07,170
Good cop, quiet cop.
524
00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:09,000
[chuckles]
525
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,150
You're not a cop,
but maybe I can deputize you.
526
00:26:16,690 --> 00:26:19,810
So, like I said on the phone,
527
00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:23,560
I just had some questions about
a former foster child.
528
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,440
You were her case worker.
529
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,150
Andrea, yes, I remember her.
530
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:31,650
{\an8}I can't give too many details,
that wouldn't be right.
531
00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:33,740
I just had a few questions.
532
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:39,200
Now, she was taken in
by the Jackson family, correct?
533
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,580
Yes, uh, they had come
looking for a daughter
534
00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:43,450
the same age as their own.
535
00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:47,210
And they were a good fit?
536
00:26:47,410 --> 00:26:49,670
Well, yes,
they were a nice family,
537
00:26:49,870 --> 00:26:52,130
well employed,
and they already had a child,
538
00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:54,420
and we wouldn't place a child
with a family
539
00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:56,130
if they weren't suited for it.
540
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:59,890
They ended up sending her
back to you.
541
00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:01,890
Why do you think that is?
542
00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:03,770
Usually when something
like that happens,
543
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:06,060
it's because
the family feels overwhelmed.
544
00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:07,480
Overwhelmed?
545
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,360
Most families don't realize,
546
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,150
but a lot of the children
that we serve here
547
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:13,610
have special needs
and requirements.
548
00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:16,360
Some parents get overwhelmed
by that.
549
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,070
These kids have been
through a lot.
550
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,410
They've all dealt
with abandonment,
551
00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:23,580
so our ultimate goal is just
to find them some stability.
552
00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:27,120
And adoption reversal is
definitely a last resort.
553
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,210
Andrea had hurt someone,
554
00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:33,840
so I assume that violence is
pretty good grounds
555
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720
for a reversal.
556
00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:39,090
I don't like the idea of
labeling a child as violent.
557
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:40,760
There are usually some factors
558
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,430
that contribute
to a child lashing out.
559
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:47,410
And what would those factors be
in Andrea's case?
560
00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:52,070
You want me to gossip
about a child...
561
00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:53,860
- It's not...
- ...that was under the care
of the state?
562
00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:57,950
It's not gossip,
just a little information.
563
00:27:58,150 --> 00:27:59,740
I've already given you
564
00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:01,490
the information that I have,
Ms. Greene.
565
00:28:01,690 --> 00:28:03,950
I'm not sure
what else I could tell you
566
00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,370
that you need to know
at this time.
567
00:28:06,570 --> 00:28:08,250
I would just love
if you can unpack it
568
00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:09,960
a little bit more for me.
569
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,670
Oh, honey.
570
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:14,500
I have been doing this
for over 30 years, okay?
571
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:16,420
I love all my babies the same.
572
00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:19,130
I would never do that
to any of these children.
573
00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:20,180
Ms. Greene, I don't have
any more information...
574
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,550
Ms. Kirby,
all I'm saying is that
575
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:23,640
you're acting like
you're not a mandated reporter.
576
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,430
- [overlapping chatter]
- Why aren't you trying to
give us more information?
577
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:27,890
What are you hiding?
578
00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:29,140
[Roberta] Oh.
579
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:31,770
[scoffs] I see.
580
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:34,940
You want me to tell you
her sob story?
581
00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:37,740
That she was touched
or something?
582
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:39,610
That she saw her mother
murdered, and from then on
583
00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:41,170
a screw was loose?
584
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,260
We just want you to be honest.
585
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:46,080
Let me say this.
586
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,790
If you want to help,
587
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:49,790
you should foster some children.
588
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:53,460
See for yourself what these
children's worlds are like.
589
00:28:53,660 --> 00:28:56,670
And I don't appreciate
you portraying them as monsters.
590
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:59,380
You are doing a disservice to
all the children in foster care
591
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:01,050
with these implications.
592
00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,430
- [Loretta] No, Ms. Kirby...
- The only reason
593
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:04,350
why you want Andrea's sob story
594
00:29:04,550 --> 00:29:06,350
is so you can
absolve yourselves.
595
00:29:06,550 --> 00:29:08,640
Mm-hmm. You need there
to be a reason
596
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,100
she was so messed-up,
597
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:11,690
so you don't have to sweep
your own front door
598
00:29:11,890 --> 00:29:14,310
and realize that you are just
as flawed.
599
00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:16,520
That girl was lonely,
600
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,860
and she was
looking for acceptance.
601
00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:21,360
And I don't know
what has happened to her since,
602
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,740
or why y'all are here, but
I'm not gonna help you judge her
603
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:25,990
for something that you couldn't
begin to understand.
604
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:27,790
- [Loretta] Ms. Kirby, please...
- I'm sorry.
605
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:28,970
I got to go.
606
00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:32,010
[busy chatter nearby]
607
00:29:39,060 --> 00:29:41,230
I thought I told you
to be quiet.
608
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:48,780
d d
609
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:51,390
So it's been a couple of weeks
now that we've been
610
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:53,210
following this thread.
611
00:29:53,410 --> 00:29:55,560
What happened when you brought
this up to your superiors?
612
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,440
[scoffs]
613
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,690
Of course no one cared.
614
00:29:59,890 --> 00:30:02,990
I got them to put out an APBfor Andrea Greene,
615
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:06,760
but it doesn't seemto be a priority.
616
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,180
Can you believe we have
the same last name?
617
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,090
What if we're kin?
618
00:30:20,290 --> 00:30:24,010
I keep asking myselfwhy I'm so drawn to this case,
619
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,180
why I'm so drawn to her.
620
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,050
I look at Andrea's face,
621
00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:30,600
sometimes I see nothing,
622
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,100
and sometimes I see myself.
623
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,350
Now, why is that?
624
00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:39,020
I wonder how different life
could've been for her
625
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:43,320
if say, I had taken her in
or my parents.
626
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,740
But anyways,we'll see if she pops up.
627
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:51,370
They were already looking for
her on the break-in supposedly,
628
00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:53,250
but... [scoffs]
629
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:56,210
I found a couple of othermurders that fit the profile,
630
00:30:56,410 --> 00:30:58,080
but...
631
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,170
I need some more evidence.
632
00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:03,590
I just wish I could talk to her.
633
00:31:03,790 --> 00:31:06,880
[laughs]
634
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,050
Maybe at a [bleep] concert.
635
00:31:09,250 --> 00:31:11,240
I could run into Andrea there.
636
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560
I better start saving up.
637
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,950
Those tickets are not cheap.
638
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:26,800
d d
639
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:30,280
[laughs] Really?
640
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,700
We found her.
641
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,260
They found her.
642
00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:36,010
Is this her brother?
643
00:31:36,350 --> 00:31:38,170
No, that's her.
That's got to be.
644
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:39,770
You don't think
it looks like her.
645
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:44,010
She's going by Tony now.
646
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320
I knew we'd catch a break.
647
00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:52,350
Everybody here thinksI'm looking at it wrong, but...
648
00:31:52,550 --> 00:31:53,760
I've combed her socials.
649
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,060
I know it's her,
but no one believes me.
650
00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:58,020
[laughs]
651
00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:00,230
I'm gonna go down to Atlanta.
652
00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:02,020
See if I can talk to her.
653
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,610
Try and fill in the gaps.
654
00:32:04,810 --> 00:32:06,900
I told them to hold her.
655
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,760
Hopefully she doesn't make bail
before I get there.
656
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,950
Do you think there are more
murders out there?
657
00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:15,080
[scoffs]
658
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,180
I guarantee it.
I guarantee it.
659
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,520
d d
660
00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:36,430
[engine starts]
661
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:38,580
d d
662
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,720
{\an8}d d
663
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,840
{\an8}What you directing?
664
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,720
{\an8}I'm directing this show
665
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,300
{\an8}that I'm working on right now
666
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,470
{\an8}with, like, uh, Chloeand Damson and Dom Fishback.
667
00:33:14,670 --> 00:33:15,820
{\an8}It's in the works.
It's going well.
668
00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:18,740
{\an8}d d
669
00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:25,400
{\an8}d Been a Barbie doll type d
670
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,230
{\an8}[d Gretchen Wilson:
"Redneck Woman"]
671
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:29,900
{\an8}d No, I can't swigthat sweet champagne d
672
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,150
{\an8}d I'd rather drink beerall night d
673
00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:34,870
{\an8}d In a tavernor in a honky-tonk d
674
00:33:35,070 --> 00:33:37,490
{\an8}d Or on a four-wheel drivetailgate d
675
00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:42,500
{\an8}d I've got posters on my wallof Skynyrd, Kid and Strait d
676
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,290
{\an8}d Some people look down on me d
677
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,670
{\an8}d But I don't give a rip d
678
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:50,380
{\an8}d I stand barefootedin my own front yard d
679
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,380
{\an8}d With a baby on my hip d
680
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:55,050
{\an8}d 'Cause I'm a redneck woman d
681
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:57,470
{\an8}d And I ain'tno high-class broad d
682
00:33:57,670 --> 00:34:00,020
{\an8}d I'm just a productof my raising d
683
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:03,020
{\an8}d I say, "Hey, y'all"and "Yee-haw" d
684
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:05,480
{\an8}d And I keep my Christmaslights on d
685
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,400
{\an8}d On my front porchall year long d
686
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,570
{\an8}d And I know all the words d
687
00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:13,320
{\an8}d To everyCharlie Daniels song d
688
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,950
{\an8}d So here's to all my sisters d
689
00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:18,280
{\an8}d Out there keeping it country d
690
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,910
{\an8}d Let me get a big "Hell yeah" d
691
00:34:22,110 --> 00:34:23,750
{\an8}d From the redneck girlslike me d
692
00:34:23,950 --> 00:34:25,850
{\an8}d Hell yeah! dd
693
00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:32,850
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