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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,960 ROHIT KACHROO: Early morning, London. 2 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,960 At Britain's busiest airport, journeys are just beginning. 3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,960 MAN 1: This is an almost unimaginable plot. 4 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,480 Seven flights bound for North America. 5 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,960 The United Kingdom would've been used 6 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,960 as a launch pad to attack America. 7 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,960 Among the thousands boarding, seven dangerous men, 8 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,960 all of them British. 9 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,960 These were professionals. 10 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,960 This was a cell that had training. 11 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,960 They slip through security carrying lethal devices. 12 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:09,960 You've got your drink bottle. You've got your camera. 13 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,960 You can then wire those together. 14 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:16,640 You have created an effective bomb. 15 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,960 MAN 2: They were clearly going to go through this. 16 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:28,960 When can we take it down? 17 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:31,960 Are they on the brink? 18 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:41,960 And somewhere over the Atlantic, passenger planes go down. 19 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,960 What you've just watched is what could have happened... 20 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,960 ..had the liquid bomb plot not been foiled. 21 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,960 But this was the plan, and the intentions were real. 22 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,800 NEWSREEL: At altitude, this would lead to the plane disintegrating. 23 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,960 We would not have recovered fully from this. 24 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,960 You would've had, probably, a death toll higher than 9/11. 25 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,960 I think you might not have civil aviation now. 26 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Twenty years on, this is the story of how close the plotters came... 27 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,960 ..and of the British man said to be at the heart of it. 28 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,000 This extraordinary journey. 29 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,960 He is seen as something of Al-Qaeda's point man. 30 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,960 And of the suspected explosives expert who walked free. 31 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,960 MAN: He had a degree of supervision. 32 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:51,480 When the way we travel was changed in an instant. 33 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Those queues stretch right the way around the airport. 34 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Would this have been the point where people would've started to say, 35 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,480 "No, I'm not going to fly"? 36 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,960 EXPLOSION 37 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaking for the first time, 38 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,960 we will hear from spies on both sides of the Atlantic 39 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,000 who helped to foil this massive plot. 40 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,960 DISGUISED VOICE: And, obviously, there's a potential consequence 41 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,960 of not just fucking up an operation but being hurt. 42 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,960 The biggest surveillance operation in British history... 43 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,320 ..and a worldwide race to intercept what would have been 44 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,960 one of the most devastating terror attacks of all time. 45 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,480 There would have been a terrible, tragic loss of life. 46 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,960 The government would've been in grave danger of falling. 47 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,640 A spring morning in 2002. 48 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,800 As dawn breaks in Alum Rock, a suburb of Birmingham, 49 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,960 news begins to spread. 50 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Overnight, a local resident was murdered. 51 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,960 He was attacked in the street and suffered close to 30 stab wounds. 52 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 His heart probably stopped bleeding 53 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,000 before the attackers stopped stabbing him. 54 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,960 He died on the doorstep of his home. 55 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,480 This was multiple, frenzied, purposeful. 56 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,160 The intent was clear. 57 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Whoever attacked him wanted him, 58 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,960 or the person they thought they were attacking, dead. 59 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,960 The victim was Mohammed Saeed, a father of two, 60 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,960 a delivery driver who'd just finished his night shift. 61 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Andy Hough was one of the first senior officers on the scene. 62 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,800 I suspect that there were only a few people 63 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 that knew what really happened 64 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 and, more importantly, why it happened. 65 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,960 However, I do know that they eventually identified a suspect. 66 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,480 But this didn't appear to be a random killing 67 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,640 because the man wanted for questioning 68 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,320 was, in fact, Saeed's nephew, 21-year-old Rashid Rauf. 69 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,960 He left the country not long after the murder... 70 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,960 ..and went to Pakistan. 71 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,800 And Rauf didn't leave alone. 72 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,320 One of his friends from his university days left with him, too, 73 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,960 20-year-old Mohammed Yasar Gulzar. 74 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,960 It's an unsolved murder, and police try to find Rauf. 75 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,960 It just turned out that he had vanished. 76 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,960 He's effectively forced by circumstances 77 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,160 to flee to Pakistan because he is wanted by the police. 78 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,960 We can see that that moment was pivotal. 79 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,320 You know, if he'd stayed in this country, 80 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,320 life might have been very different. 81 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,960 The Pakistani Kashmiri Muslim communities in Birmingham 82 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,960 are close-knit. 83 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960 They're devout. Strongly attached to religion. 84 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,960 There's always been a strong interest in the Kashmiri cause 85 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,960 and the idea of liberation and independence 86 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,960 from both India and Pakistan. 87 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,960 And, unfortunately, for a tiny fringe, 88 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,960 that translates into support 89 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,960 for the terrorist groups, or jihadi groups, in Kashmir, 90 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,960 seen as resistance fighters. 91 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 The area where Rauf grew up is home 92 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,960 to one of Britain's longest-standing Pakistani communities. 93 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Rashid Rauf's own family 94 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,960 is understood to have been deeply devout, 95 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,800 with close links to the local mosque. 96 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,960 Rauf seemed like a very normal person. 97 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,320 He made friends, went to school, played cricket, 98 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,000 and then he went to university for about a year. 99 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 And then at some point, he dropped out. 100 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,960 The murder is never solved. The motives remained unclear. 101 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,960 When you are stabbing somebody, 102 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 you're looking them in the eye, and they're looking you in the eye. 103 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,320 You've got to be a pretty perverse individual 104 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,960 with no respect for life. 105 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 What had looked like a domestic dispute 106 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,960 was, in fact, a step towards Rauf 107 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,960 becoming one of the most dangerous terrorists in the world. 108 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,960 SHOUTING, COMMOTION 109 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,960 USAMA HASAN: The single most important event 110 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,960 for British Muslims was 9/11... 111 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,960 ..and then the war on terror after that. 112 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,960 We will make no distinction 113 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,960 between the terrorists who committed these acts 114 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,960 and those who harbour them. 115 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,960 We have to take action against the whole machinery of mass terrorism. 116 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,960 The early 2000s were a great period of ferment, 117 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,640 defined, I think, in the Muslim world 118 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,960 and amongst some Muslim men, 119 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,960 by a great sense of grievance against Western powers. 120 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,960 This drew a lot of people into the arms of Al-Qaeda 121 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,960 because they had a charismatic leader in Osama bin Laden. 122 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,960 You have this radical, extremist ideology of Al-Qaeda 123 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,960 which says, "This is a war against Islam, 124 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,960 "and it is us against them." 125 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,960 "And it was the duty of young Muslim men to stand up 126 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,960 "and to defend the Muslim nation. And to fight back, if necessary." 127 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,960 Months after leaving Britain, 128 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,960 the boy from the backstreets of Birmingham 129 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,960 is on a journey towards the upper echelons of Al-Qaeda. 130 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,960 When Rashid Rauf went to Pakistan, 131 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,960 he married into a family of Kashmiri royalty, if you will... 132 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,960 ..and he generated all these connections. 133 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,640 He became an important cog in that terrorist community. 134 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Rauf fully subscribed to the Al-Qaeda narrative... 135 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,800 ..and because he was resourceful, articulate, and clever, 136 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,480 he quickly rose up their ranks. 137 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,960 It's a trajectory, this extraordinary journey. 138 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,960 He is now, in those early years, 139 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,960 seen as something of Al-Qaeda's point man. 140 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,320 Working in the wilderness of north-western Pakistan, 141 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,960 it is believed Rauf is promoted into a key position, 142 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,640 an organiser and a talent spotter for the terror network. 143 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,480 What these training camps represented 144 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,960 was not just training in the use of arms and explosives, 145 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,960 but also giving these young men 146 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,960 a tremendous sense of solidarity and community. 147 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,960 His role would later put him on watch lists worldwide. 148 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,960 Absolutely a key character, and very much a focus 149 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,960 of international concern. 150 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,960 We were worried about him. The Pakistanis, of course. 151 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,960 The Americans were very much focused on him. 152 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,960 He was the person who turned ambition into reality. 153 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,960 He was absolutely working at the senior levels of Al-Qaeda, 154 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,960 and he was the bridge to external operations. 155 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,960 He was vetting a large number of young men going into these regions. 156 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,960 He was able to suss out and decide very quickly 157 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,960 those who were up to the job and those who weren't. 158 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,960 AKI PERITZ: He had the ability 159 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,960 to nudge people along the path of violence. 160 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,960 Here, at the height of the war on terror, 161 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 it is thought that he has become 162 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,800 one of the world's most dangerous terrorists, 163 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,960 who turns believers into bombers. 164 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,960 And among them, the architects of Britain's most devastating attack. 165 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,960 SIRENS 166 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 NEWSREEL: Appalling scene. 167 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,000 The top of this double-decker bus blown clean off. 168 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,960 On 7/7, four suicide bombs explode on London Tubes and buses. 169 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,960 52 people lose their lives. Over 700 are injured. 170 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,960 7/7 was a horrific attack. 171 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,960 A reminder of the willingness of terrorists 172 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 to try and target the vulnerabilities 173 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,960 of an advanced society and an advanced economy. 174 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,960 Should we have been able to stop this? 175 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,960 Is there a failure here on our part? 176 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,960 It's a very emotional thing. It's a point of very great stress. 177 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,960 And, just two weeks later, terrorists strike again. 178 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,960 On 21 July, there was a second wave of attacks. 179 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,960 This is not a one-off, and that's the end of it. 180 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,960 This is part of a pattern. 181 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,960 This time, the bombs fail to fully detonate. 182 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 NEWSREEL: Out of the darkness emerged two men. 183 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 The would-be attackers are arrested. 184 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,800 According to reports, 185 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,960 Western intelligence officials identified Rashid Rauf 186 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,960 as a figure connected to both waves of attacks in London that summer. 187 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,960 He was later acknowledged 188 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,960 as the author of a review for Al-Qaeda, 189 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,960 a kind of internal audit of why the 21/7 attack failed. 190 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Rauf realised that he needed to stay in constant contact 191 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,960 with the conspirators 192 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,960 because sometimes people don't follow directions. 193 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,960 These are young men who maybe aren't the best students, 194 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,160 and so he knew that he had to talk to them. 195 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,960 Al-Qaeda saw him as a valuable commodity. 196 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,960 He had the zeal, and he had the leadership 197 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,800 to make these people carry out attacks. 198 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,960 During that time, from, I'd say, 2002 199 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,960 until I left the police in 2008, 200 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,960 it was ceaseless, absolutely relentless. 201 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,960 One plot after the other. 202 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,480 According to US intelligence, 203 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Rauf is already working on the next attack. 204 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,960 He's building a new cell in Britain. 205 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,480 At the heart of it, 25-year-old Abdulla Ahmed Ali. 206 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Abdulla Ahmed Ali was British-born, lived in Walthamstow. 207 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,960 He went to high school, went to university. 208 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 He seemed like a very normal person. 209 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Very capable, very sharp, clever. 210 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,320 And people describe him as being charismatic. 211 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Usama Hasan, from East London, once travelled abroad for jihad 212 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,960 and now advises on counter-extremism and deradicalisation. 213 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,320 For someone like Ali, and for, actually, tens of thousands 214 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,960 of young men of British-Pakistani origin 215 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,480 who were very aware of their identity as Muslim, 216 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,960 they certainly had a sense of a politicised identity 217 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 and were aware of the racism growing up, 218 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,480 which was increasingly replaced by Islamophobia. 219 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,160 In 2004, shortly after losing his first-born child to ill health, 220 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Ali makes extended trips to Pakistan. 221 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Empathy for the plight of his fellow Muslims 222 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,960 evolves into anger and extremism. 223 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 This is a man who was fired 224 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,960 by a great sense of both personal injustice, 225 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,960 but also a man with a great sense 226 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,480 of his community having been gravely harmed by Western power. 227 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,960 This hardened his heart against the Americans, against the British. 228 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,960 He wanted to join the jihad in Pakistan, 229 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,960 and then that's when he basically met Rashid Rauf. 230 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,960 In Ali, it is said, Rauf spots potential. 231 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Ali was a smart guy. 232 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,960 What was also important was that he was considered a leader. 233 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,800 He could motivate other people. 234 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,960 If you compare him to someone like Rashid Rauf, 235 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 the reports that I have read is of a man 236 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,960 who was much fiercer in his manner and his conduct. 237 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,640 Al-Qaeda realised that these British-born individuals 238 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,960 who want to commit to the jihad, if they were sent to Afghanistan, 239 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,000 they'd be chewed up within a month and they'd be dead. 240 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,640 It was better to send them back to the UK 241 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,480 and use them as cells for a future attack. 242 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,960 Ali returns to Britain to build a terrorist cell. 243 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,960 What he doesn't know 244 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,000 is that British security services are already onto him. 245 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,960 He had come onto our radar originally 246 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,480 two or three years earlier because he was involved 247 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,960 in facilitating people to go to Pakistan. 248 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,960 But at that stage, we didn't think that he was an actual plotter. 249 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,960 That started to change when we realised that he was in touch 250 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,960 with the people in Rashid Rauf's circle in northern Pakistan. 251 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Ali spends months establishing a cell in Britain 252 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 with one clear purpose - 253 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,960 to pull off a terrorist attack that could kill more people than 9/11. 254 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,960 ROHIT KACHROO: British security services are monitoring 255 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,960 a suspected terror cell operating in the UK. 256 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,000 It's being overseen from Pakistan by Rashid Rauf, 257 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,960 a 25-year-old from Birmingham. 258 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,960 They also know that its leader is Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 259 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,960 who has just flown back to London. 260 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,960 But what's not clear is why. 261 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,960 CHRIS: Ali had gone to Pakistan. He returned. 262 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 He came back through the airport. 263 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,960 He was on our target list, and we were looking at him. 264 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,960 We examined his luggage, 265 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,960 and in his luggage, there were batteries. 266 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Quite a number of batteries, which had been purchased in Pakistan, 267 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,960 which is a strange thing to do. 268 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Batteries had been used as detonators. 269 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,960 We had seen that before. 270 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,960 So that was an indicator that said, "This is something serious." 271 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 And it moved it up the scale of operations. 272 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Maybe he was actually involved in direct plotting 273 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960 to mount an attack here. 274 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,960 He became the focus of our surveillance. 275 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,480 That was really the beginning of the investigation. 276 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,320 By late June, 277 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,960 a massive counter-terrorism operation is under way. 278 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,800 It's codenamed Operation Overt. 279 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Led by MI5 and Scotland Yard, 280 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,960 it would become Britain's biggest-ever surveillance operation. 281 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,960 Certainly, the coverage of Ali became more intense after that. 282 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,960 We needed to find out much more about him - 283 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,960 what he was doing, who he was meeting, 284 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960 and ideally, what were his intentions. 285 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,960 Anna is an MI5 officer. 286 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 This is the first time a serving spy 287 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,960 has spoken publicly about working on Operation Overt. 288 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,960 She helped to track Ali's movements, 289 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,960 and she describes how his trip from Pakistan 290 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 set in motion an unrelenting six weeks. 291 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960 ANNA DISTORTED: You cease to have any kind of life 292 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,000 because you're just living in the office. 293 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,960 What should have been very long days flashed by in a blizzard 294 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,960 of just trying to keep on top of everything. 295 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,960 I think we were using pretty much 296 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960 all of the surveillance teams across the UK, 297 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,960 in terms of MI5 and police resources. 298 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,960 It was really, really busy. Nerve-racking. 299 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,960 The alarm bell is heard across the Atlantic, 300 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,160 as warnings about the threat 301 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,960 are shared between London and Washington. 302 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,960 What I remember vividly is how intense the level of secrecy was. 303 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,960 The amount of intelligence gathering, 304 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480 the amount of coordination and cooperation 305 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,960 is rather extraordinary because from Washington, 306 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,960 we were getting a very clear view of what was transpiring. 307 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,960 By mid-July, all eyes are on Ali. 308 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,960 Ali is being tailed at this point by surveillance officers. 309 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960 He goes to Lloyd Park in Walthamstow, 310 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,960 and he meets an individual who the police had no idea who he was. 311 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,960 But this is where Assad Sarwar enters the picture. 312 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960 CHRIS: We did not know who that individual was. 313 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,960 They do something very strange, 314 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960 which is that they lay down in the middle of the park, 315 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,960 and they put their hands over their mouth, like this. 316 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,960 That was a clear indication of tradecraft. 317 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,960 They were guarding what it was they were saying because they feared 318 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,160 they may be being filmed or lip-read, etc. 319 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,960 That told us that these were professionals. 320 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,960 This was a cell that had training. 321 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 And if you think about that as an operational challenge 322 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,960 for an intelligence service, 323 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,960 that is very difficult because you can't hear it, 324 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,960 you can't see it, you can't really approach it. 325 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,960 Assad Sarwar becomes an important focus. 326 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,960 It looks like he's been living a quiet life 327 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 at his parents' house in High Wycombe, 328 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,960 but it soon becomes clear that he'd been busy for months. 329 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,960 We had coverage of Sarwar. 330 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960 He was going around the country using false names 331 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960 and bulk-buying hydrogen peroxide. 332 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Hydrogen peroxide is something you can buy 333 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000 in every drug store in the world. 334 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,960 You use it to clean cuts, use it to dye your hair. 335 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,320 But if you boil it down to a certain percentage, 336 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,960 it can become extremely unstable and explosive. 337 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,960 There were elements that we recognised from the 2005 attacks, 338 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,960 so the use, for example, of hydrogen peroxide. 339 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960 And once we started to see them acquiring those items, 340 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 all of that sort of fits the pattern. 341 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,960 Email messages from the time show Sarwar is under pressure 342 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,960 from superiors in Pakistan overseeing the cell. 343 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,960 The emails indicate the progress he's making 344 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,960 acquiring the bomb materials. 345 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960 The stockpile soon grows 346 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960 way beyond what Sarwar can store at his parents' house, 347 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,960 so he needs a new plan. 348 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,320 In late July, he heads to King's Wood in High Wycombe, 349 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,960 but he's being trailed by Thames Valley Police. 350 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,960 Sarwar going into the woods at night 351 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,960 creates a massive difficulty for a surveillance officer. 352 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960 You cannot follow someone into woods 353 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,640 because, clearly, you don't expect to see anyone else 354 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960 at that time of day. 355 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 So, for the surveillance team, it really is a nightmare. 356 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Sarwar makes repeated visits over many nights, 357 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,960 but officers can't be sure what he's up to. 358 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,320 We realised that what he was doing was he was gonna hide the suitcase. 359 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960 He would go late at night into the woods, dig a hole, 360 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960 hide his stuff and then retreat 361 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960 before anybody realised he was there. 362 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 I think it was quite clear that he was struggling 363 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 with the role he'd been given. 364 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,480 It was probably beyond his capabilities. 365 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,640 And one of the reasons around that is he had googled how to dig a hole. 366 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,160 What Sarwar did manage to stash away was significant. 367 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Police would later discover over 40 litres of hydrogen peroxide 368 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,960 hidden in woodland near his parents' house and in their garage. 369 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,960 It took a long time to find it. 370 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,800 It was hugely significant - 371 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,960 precursor chemicals for making bombs 372 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,640 and other bomb-making material. 373 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,960 Sarwar isn't the only person of interest connected to Ali. 374 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Police tracking Ali's movements over the summer 375 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,960 would identify 24 suspects in the group. 376 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160 As we continued surveillance, 377 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960 we started to see a network getting together. 378 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,960 The number of targets started to increase, 379 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,800 that were not only seen as associates, 380 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,960 but they were active associates. 381 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,960 To investigators, the warning signs are gathering. 382 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Weeks before Sarwar's surveillance in the woods, 383 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,480 a relative of Ali purchased a flat in Walthamstow, East London, 384 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,960 for £138,000 in cash. 385 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,960 By late July, 386 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960 some of the suspects are seen going in and out of the property. 387 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,640 It was quite clear that we needed to know what was going on in there. 388 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,480 And the only way to find out is to be in there with them. 389 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,960 A branch of MI5 are probably the best in the world at covert entry. 390 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320 There is a risk of compromise, but at that level, 391 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960 we discussed that the intelligence and information we would get 392 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,000 outweighed that risk. 393 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960 But for MI5 officers on the ground, 394 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,960 the most precarious moment is still ahead. 395 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,960 ANNA: When the door opened and you're looking up into the darkness, 396 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,800 you're not quite sure if there's anyone in there. 397 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,960 ROHIT KACHROO: British security services think they've identified 398 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,960 a terrorist hideout in East London. 399 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,960 Men linked to what would later be known as the liquid bomb plot 400 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960 have been seen going in and out. 401 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,960 DAN: There was an imperative to get in there 402 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960 and find out what these guys were doing. 403 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Dan is another MI5 spy, 404 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960 speaking for the first time about Operation Overt. 405 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 I've worked on hundreds of operations. 406 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,640 Lots of entries - terrorist properties, mainly. 407 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960 Sometimes you're breaking into someone's house, 408 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,960 you're standing in a terrorist's living room, and they have no idea. 409 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Dan and his colleague, an MI5 locksmith, 410 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,960 wait until they believe the property is fully empty. 411 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,960 And then we move forward. 412 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960 It feels like the clock's ticking. 413 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 We're through that door very quickly. 414 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,960 If you've been in MI5 long enough, you're going to be involved 415 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,960 in investigations or operations where people have been killed. 416 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960 When the door opened and you're looking up into the darkness, 417 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 and you're not quite sure if there's anyone in there, 418 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,960 and you think, "God, if I fuck this up, 419 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,960 "this is gonna bring to an end 420 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,160 "maybe the biggest counter-terrorism investigation 421 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640 "in the country's history." 422 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960 There's a degree of pressure, 423 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960 and, obviously, there's a potential consequence 424 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,960 of not just fucking up an operation, but being hurt. 425 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,960 You're using almost no lights. 426 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,960 You're not giving the game away. 427 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960 If you open a door, if it's ajar, you make sure when you come out 428 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,960 you put it exactly to the same position it was in before. 429 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,960 The flat is littered with suspicious-looking items. 430 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,960 There was a row of bottles lined up, sort of neatly equidistant. 431 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,960 They all seemed to be empty. 432 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,960 That all seemed very odd. 433 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,960 This box contained different glass jars. 434 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,960 There was one that was full of batteries. 435 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,960 There was a big jar full of some white, gloopy liquid. 436 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 There was a bit of banter back and forth about, you know, 437 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,960 "Cut the blue wire" and "Don't drop it". 438 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960 At the end, we put the things back, 439 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,960 and I said to the locksmith, "Sometimes I fucking love my job." 440 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,800 Over the course of five nights, 441 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960 Dan's team install hidden surveillance equipment. 442 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,960 We want as much audio and CCTV coverage as we can 443 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800 of the key parts of this flat. 444 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960 So that's audio in every room, 445 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,960 and, clearly, CCTV in the kitchen is gonna be key. 446 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,640 What surveillance later sees inside the flat is confirmation. 447 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,960 The preparations for the plot are real and in progress. 448 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,480 The fact that we could actually watch live as they were doing this 449 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960 was absolutely vital, of course, 450 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,960 because it confirmed to us that they were building devices, bombs. 451 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960 And the way that they had designed 452 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,480 was to create a liquid explosive, effectively, 453 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960 to hide that in a drinks bottle 454 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,160 by drilling through the bottom of the bottle, 455 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,960 inserting the explosive and then sealing it again with resin. 456 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,960 The plotters replace the original drink with hydrogen peroxide, 457 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,960 and they used a powdered mixture called Tang 458 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960 to mimic how the drink used to look. 459 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,960 And then you've gotta work out, how do you make the bomb detonate? 460 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,960 And they did that by taking disposable cameras, 461 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 and then they had adapted the battery and so on in that 462 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960 to be a detonator. 463 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,960 You've got your drink bottle, you've got your camera, 464 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960 you can then wire those together, 465 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960 and, in fact, you have created an effective bomb. 466 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 The bomb components discovered in the flat 467 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960 are not yet viable or fully assembled, 468 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,480 but the intentions are clear. 469 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Hidden microphones pick up more. 470 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960 CHRIS: We picked up conversations talking about a list of names. 471 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960 So, they went through a list of about 18 individuals, 472 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480 and some of them were nicknames, and some were names of the team. 473 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960 18 members of the cell are identified, 474 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,480 meaning there could be as many as 18 attacks. 475 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,960 What really struck me was the speed with which 476 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,960 the key members of the core of this plot 477 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,480 were able to recruit and persuade young men... 478 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,000 ..and they were all young men... 479 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,960 ..that they should kill not only themselves, 480 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,320 but also thousands of members of the public. 481 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,960 One of the alarming things that I heard in the flat 482 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,960 was Ali discussing taking his wife 483 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960 and his young child on the flight with him. 484 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960 That indicated just how serious these individuals were, 485 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,960 that they would take their child and their wife. 486 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,160 That's quite alarming. 487 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,960 Intelligence on the bomb factory is shared Stateside. 488 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960 The CIA digs deeper. 489 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 WAYNE MCCOOL: There was one particular meeting 490 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,640 that I attended down at the White House. 491 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,960 And the discussions at the time was about the efficacy of the device, 492 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,960 and whether or not it would function as designed 493 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,960 as the plotters were going to use it. 494 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Because the question was, is this a real concoction? 495 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,960 And what damage could this do if it got onto a transatlantic flight? 496 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960 We had to go forward and do some testing. 497 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,800 They worked as designed. 498 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,960 They went boom. 499 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,960 REPORTER: The device blew a hole in the skin of the aircraft. 500 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,960 At altitude, this would lead to the plane disintegrating. 501 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,960 JONATHAN EVANS: Within the UK, for evidential reasons, 502 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160 we had to be able to prove that this was a viable device. 503 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,960 And the experts in the defence world built a replica of the device 504 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,960 and exploded it in one of their explosion chambers. 505 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,960 This was a real threat. 506 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,160 In London, as the city basks in the late July sun, 507 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,000 evidence keeps emerging from the Walthamstow bomb factory. 508 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Some of my colleagues came in and said, 509 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,960 "You might want to come and listen to this." 510 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,960 ALI: Enough is enough. 511 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,480 We have warned you so many times to get out of our land, leave us alone, 512 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,960 but you have persisted in trying to humiliate us, kill us... 513 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960 They were making suicide videos, 514 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,480 the videos that they would be issuing after the attacks. 515 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,960 INAUDIBLE 516 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,960 CHRIS: This gave us an indication 517 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960 that they were coming to the operational phase. 518 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,960 So we knew that this was their last living will and testament. 519 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,960 They were clearly going to go through with this. 520 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,960 ANNA: I listened in live. 521 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,960 It was a really disturbing experience, 522 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960 because these were pretty young men, 523 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960 sadly, casually discussing not only their own death, 524 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,960 but the death of a lot of other people, 525 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,960 and trying to justify that. 526 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,160 This is revenge for the actions of the USA in the Muslim lands 527 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960 and their accomplices, such as the British. 528 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,960 Six martyrdom videos would later be recovered by police. 529 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,960 The black banner and the anger and blaming world events, 530 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,160 and using it as a justification to kill 531 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960 potentially thousands of innocent members of the public. 532 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,960 The plot is moving ever closer towards action. 533 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,960 In the government, the Home Secretary faces another choice, 534 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,960 with huge political risk. 535 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,960 The threat level to aviation is raised to critical, 536 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960 but he's asked to keep that a secret, 537 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,640 to not tell the public. 538 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960 JOHN REID: Severe meant an attack was likely. 539 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Critical meant it was imminent. 540 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960 I was getting pretty strong advice. 541 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,000 "You have to do this." 542 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,960 JONATHAN EVANS: And I said, "You can't do that. 543 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160 "Because if you do that, 544 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,960 "the bad guys will realise that we're onto them, 545 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960 "and then we might lose our access." 546 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,960 If, as a result of delaying, we miscalculated, 547 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:06,480 and the conspirators murdered 2,000, 3,000 people, 548 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,960 my judgment was that no government could have sustained that. 549 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,960 The government would've been in grave danger of falling. 550 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,960 And he said, "We're not going to publish the fact 551 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960 "that the threat level's gone up." 552 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960 Then he looked at me, and it's one of those points you remember, 553 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,960 and he said, erm... 554 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,960 "If this goes wrong, I'm out of a job, 555 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,480 "you're out of a job, and the government will fall." 556 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960 Security services up the ante. 557 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960 More than 800 police officers from across the country 558 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,960 are now monitoring 24 suspects around the clock. 559 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960 People were brought in from Northern Ireland. 560 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,960 This was the biggest counter-terrorist operation 561 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,960 ever carried out, before or since, in the United Kingdom. 562 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640 For the plotters, the preparations continue. 563 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,960 Ali went into an internet cafe in Walthamstow, 564 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960 and the surveillance officers, brilliantly, 565 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000 managed to get in there and see what he was doing. 566 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,960 CHRIS: Surveillance is a skill. It is an art, no doubt about it. 567 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,960 Ali was looking at flights. 568 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,960 He was looking up flight times, 569 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,320 flight locations from the UK to America 570 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,960 and was taking down the details of those flights. 571 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960 And that was probably the first confirmation 572 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,640 that it was likely to be aircraft attacks. 573 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,640 Seven flights, all leaving Heathrow around the same time, 574 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960 all bound for North America, 575 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,960 all potentially going down in the Atlantic. 576 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,640 The more you thought through the nature of this plot, 577 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,960 which was to bring down airliners, 578 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,960 sitting like ducks in a row over the Atlantic... 579 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960 They wanted to do it that way 580 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,960 because then you would not have the proof of how it had been done. 581 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,800 The wreckage would've been somewhere deep beneath the Atlantic. 582 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,960 So it would've taken weeks, months, years, really, 583 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,960 to work out what on earth had happened. 584 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Emails later that day from Ali to a contact in Pakistan 585 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,960 indicate that plans are only days away from being finalised. 586 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,960 That night, Abdulla Ahmed Ali and Assad Sarwar meet 587 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,960 on a street in East London. 588 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,960 But there's someone else with them... 589 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480 ..caught on police surveillance. 590 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,960 At first, officers can't work out who he is. 591 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,960 But it's Mohammed Gulzar, the old friend of Rashid Rauf. 592 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,960 CHRIS: Mohammed Gulzar appeared. 593 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,960 Which, at a time when you are undertaking attack planning... 594 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,000 ..indicates that he is more than just a casual acquaintance. 595 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,960 It was quite clear that he had a degree of supervision. 596 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,640 In Washington, those revelations from the cafe in Walthamstow 597 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,960 are raising concerns. 598 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,960 I remember very clearly the President pressuring all of us. 599 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480 He asked the question, "Are they on the brink? 600 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,960 "When can we take it down? Let's not wait too long." 601 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,960 It's almost five years since September 11, and its shadow looms. 602 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,960 9/11 was a national trauma of the deepest dimensions, 603 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,960 and part of that had to do with the perception of vulnerability. 604 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960 I remember President Bush said to me, 605 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960 within a day or two afterwards, "Don't let this happen again." 606 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,960 But this was a British-led investigation. 607 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160 There was tension between the UK and the US on this. 608 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,960 We needed the time. 609 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960 They needed assurance that this was gonna be closed down. 610 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,960 JOHN REID: Our judicial system is different from the Americans'. 611 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,960 If we take people in, we have to convict them on the evidence. 612 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640 And if we go in with insufficient evidence, 613 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,160 then the very people we think are trying to carry out 614 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,960 the terrorist attacks will be back on the street. 615 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960 It was very stressful. 616 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,960 You're weighing what is likely to be more dangerous... 617 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,160 ..moving too quickly or moving too slowly. 618 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,960 As concern grows, more people in the UK government need to be told. 619 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,960 DOUGLAS ALEXANDER: I was on holiday with my young family 620 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,960 on the Isle of Mull in the Scottish Hebrides, 621 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,960 and I took a phone call 622 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960 from the senior official in the Department for Transport. 623 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,480 He explained that he was sending a security official to brief me 624 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,960 on an issue that he wasn't able to discuss on an open line. 625 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960 He came to the cottage where we were staying, 626 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,960 locked my wife and children in the conservatory, 627 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,960 in order not to breach, inadvertently, 628 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,640 the Official Secrets Act, 629 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960 and then described to me, in some detail, 630 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960 the plot that was anticipated. 631 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,960 The next morning, an RAF Lynx helicopter landed 632 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,480 in a field next to the cottage. 633 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,960 We took off from the Isle of Mull, 634 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,960 and we headed down the Pennines on the way to Battersea Helipad. 635 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,960 As I caught that flight south, 636 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,960 I felt a sense of responsibility, a sense of anticipation, 637 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,320 but I knew I was also heading into the unknown. 638 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,960 I'd been pretty busy for weeks. I hadn't had an hour off. 639 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,960 My office knew that I was a lifelong Glasgow Celtic supporter. 640 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,960 So they had booked me tickets 641 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960 because Celtic were playing Chelsea in London. 642 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,640 So I went to the game. 643 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960 And just after Celtic scored, I got a message saying, 644 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,800 "You may have to come back to the Home Office." 645 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,960 And then another one that alerted me 646 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,960 it was likely I would be asked to go back. 647 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,960 And then, just as Chelsea equalised, tragically, 648 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,960 I got one saying, "Get out now." 649 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,000 If I thought the game was exciting, 650 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,640 the travel back to the Home Office was out of this world. 651 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,960 I mean, there was a cavalcade of cars, 652 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960 outriders, sirens screaming. 653 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,960 I never want to travel through London at that speed again. 654 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,960 The reason for the rush would soon become clear. 655 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,960 Events are unfolding in Pakistan. 656 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,960 The alleged mastermind of the plot is on the move. 657 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,960 ROHIT KACHROO: The plot to blow up 658 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,960 seven transatlantic airliners leaving London is ramping up. 659 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,320 But, unknown to the British security services, 660 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,960 their counterparts in Pakistan have sent the CIA 661 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,800 an important piece of intelligence - 662 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,960 that a key figure, the alleged mastermind of the plot, 663 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,320 Rashid Rauf, is on the move. 664 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,960 AKI PERITZ: Rauf was moving from one part of Pakistan to another. 665 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,960 He'd left one of his cellphones on, which pinged on a tower, 666 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,160 which meant that they knew exactly where he was, 667 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,960 and they saw that this ping was moving. 668 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,960 It's a rookie move. 669 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,960 And it just turns out that Rauf made a mistake. 670 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,800 Rauf is on a bus that comes to a stop 671 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,960 near a checkpoint in rural Pakistan. 672 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960 Police on the ground sound the alarm. 673 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,960 And the call says, "We have Rashid Rauf. He's in a bus. 674 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,480 "He's coming up to a checkpoint. What should we do?" 675 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960 The CIA and Pakistani security services 676 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960 give the nod to arrest him. 677 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,000 Take him out. 678 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,480 We have to take this senior terrorist out 679 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,960 when we get the chance, because he might disappear. 680 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,320 He was so comfortable that he was asleep when the bus stopped. 681 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,960 Taking him out of the battlefield was a huge success. 682 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,800 Those type of... perishable opportunities 683 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,160 do not come along very often. 684 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,960 It could have been a couple of years 685 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960 before they would have another opportunity to do that. 686 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,000 I remember a sense of relief. 687 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,960 I knew that there was probably consternation 688 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,960 on the part of our British colleagues 689 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,960 because of how aggressively this had been undertaken, 690 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960 and when it was taken. 691 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,960 Back in London, British officials feel blindsided. 692 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,960 The Americans kept saying, 693 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,960 "We will not move without telling Britain first, 694 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960 "so you can get all your ducks in a row 695 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,960 "to take down this plot all at the same time." 696 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,320 And then, suddenly, America unilaterally just moves in Pakistan. 697 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960 Er, I think I issued an expletive. 698 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,960 It was more or less an expletive of, "What do we do now?" 699 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,160 It's fair to say I was disappointed. 700 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,160 Nobody on our side of the Atlantic wanted that to happen. 701 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,960 I understood the anger, but I also understood the American position. 702 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,960 They had lost 3,000 in 9/11. 703 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,640 They had explained that was because of a lack of intelligence. 704 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,320 This time, they had the intelligence. 705 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960 There's no time to lose. 706 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960 The worry is that after this unexpected twist, 707 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,960 the terror cell could be triggered into early action. 708 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,960 Hundreds of officers are mobilised 709 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,480 across the country and in Scotland Yard. 710 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960 We set up an operations room, 711 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960 supported by all the bells and whistles 712 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,960 that we could pull into play. 713 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,320 Time was against us at that point. 714 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,960 It was literally, go and find these individuals and arrest them. 715 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,160 It's just after 9:30 on the 9th of August. 716 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,960 In East London, surveillance police are tracking both Ali and Sarwar, 717 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960 who are meeting up near Waltham Forest Town Hall. 718 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,960 I walked down to the operations room. 719 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,640 And at the time, Sarwar and Ali were meeting in a car park. 720 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,800 I saw them on the screen in the operations room... 721 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,960 ..and I gave the order to arrest them. 722 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,960 We asked the surveillance teams to do things they never do, 723 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,480 which was to step in and arrest. 724 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,960 AKI PERITZ: The original officers did not have firearms. 725 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,960 And you had really no idea whether Ali was gonna fight back, 726 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,320 Sarwar was gonna fight back. 727 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,960 Were they gonna detonate a bomb that they did not see in the car? 728 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,960 And I said, "Walk up. Hands on." 729 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960 There was no emotion from them. 730 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,960 They didn't try and struggle. 731 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,960 There was no reaction. 732 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,960 In Ali's pocket was an address book... 733 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,960 ..which had connectivity to some of the operational emails. 734 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,800 In the book, what looks like simple checklists, even games, 735 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,960 that the police would later decipher as code for contacts in Pakistan. 736 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,160 And a memory stick found on Ali would be recovered, 737 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,320 containing a list of flight timetables. 738 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,960 Throughout the night, 739 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960 suspects are plucked off one by one - 740 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,320 on the street, in cars, at home. 741 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,480 I can confirm that a significant number of people 742 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960 are currently in custody, and the operation is ongoing. 743 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,960 The operations room included a whiteboard 744 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,960 with very simple pictures of all the suspects who needed to be arrested, 745 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,960 with their names and their codenames underneath. 746 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,960 And as each one was safely detained and brought in, 747 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,960 someone would shimmy across and place a little red magnetic dot 748 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960 on their face to show they were safely detained. 749 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,960 And at the very end, there was a sea of red dots, 750 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,320 and there was one face left. 751 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,960 And as we're all stood there, at the last moment, 752 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,320 one guy sort of sidles in underneath 753 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,960 and places this last red dot on this face, 754 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960 and a big cheer went up in the operations room at that point, 755 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960 that we knew at last, our immediate duty, at least, 756 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,960 to the safety of the public, had been discharged 757 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960 because all of the suspects had been safely detained. 758 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,960 One of the suspects arrested refuses to open the door to police, 759 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,000 forcing officers to break in and detain him on the floor. 760 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,960 He gives police a false name, 761 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,960 but his fingerprints later identify him 762 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,480 as Mohammed Gulzar, 763 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,960 friend of plot facilitator Rashid Rauf, 764 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,640 who left with him to Pakistan in 2002. 765 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,960 In total, 24 suspects are arrested. 766 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,000 In all my over 30 years of policing, 767 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,960 that was the most satisfying and important night 768 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,960 of my entire police service. 769 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,960 As suspects are taken into custody, 770 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,160 COBRA, the Government's emergency committee, urgently convenes. 771 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,160 The threat is far from over. 772 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,000 There was intelligence that they were thinking 773 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,960 not just of one wave of attacks, but maybe a second wave. 774 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,960 We can't be absolutely sure that there weren't other people 775 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,960 who were part of the plot who we hadn't come across. 776 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,800 Even though the plot is foiled, there will be consequences. 777 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,960 And Britain's airports are where they're felt first. 778 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,960 I was in constant contact 779 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,800 both with officials but also with the airlines 780 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,160 and indeed with Heathrow Airport 781 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,960 and other airports across the United Kingdom. 782 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,960 We had to stop incoming flights. 783 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,640 We had to stop outgoing flights. 784 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960 And we had to change the security regime, 785 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,160 all in the course of a single overnight. 786 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,800 This is the moment the world finds out 787 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,960 about the transatlantic bomb plot. 788 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,640 Overnight, the police, 789 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,640 with the full knowledge of ministers, 790 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,960 have carried out a major counter-terrorism operation. 791 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,960 Ensuring maximum security, unfortunately, 792 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960 will involve immediate and severe disruption for passengers, 793 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,800 with significant delays likely at all UK airports. 794 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960 Security measures, longstanding routines at airports, 795 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,960 are overhauled overnight. 796 00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,960 All hand baggage will now have to be checked in, 797 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,960 with only a small number of essential items 798 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,960 allowed through search controls. 799 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,960 Liquids are banned on board, 800 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,960 with a 100ml limit enforced in the months to come. 801 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,960 Exceptions will be in place for those travelling with infants 802 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,960 and for prescription medicines. 803 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,960 We didn't have the scanning technology 804 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,000 to be able to tell whether the liquid was benign 805 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,960 or whether it posed a genuine threat to the viability of the aircraft. 806 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,960 As the sun rises, 807 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,320 airports in Britain are quickly overwhelmed. 808 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,800 Security services clearly believe 809 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,800 there may still be bombers on the loose, 810 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,960 as unprecedented checks have been put in place 811 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,800 at airports like this one, 812 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,960 with almost no hand luggage being allowed on planes. 813 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,000 LISA MINOT: There was total chaos. 814 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960 It's the height of the school summer holidays. 815 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,960 The airports are packed, thousands of flights cancelled. 816 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,960 You've got passengers stranded in terminals. 817 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,960 I's just really annoying, not knowing what's going on. 818 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,960 Heathrow was the hardest hit, 819 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,960 with more than 600 flights cancelled by mid-afternoon. 820 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,960 There were queues out the doors, into car parks, 821 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,960 big police presence, 822 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,960 police dogs patrolling the crowds, 823 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,960 a real sense of fear inside the terminal. 824 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,960 People didn't know what was happening. 825 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,960 Any liquids discovered must be removed from the passenger. 826 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,960 We will not be permitting bottled liquids and fluids. 827 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,320 There were huge piles of high-end toiletries, 828 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,960 perfumes, alcohol in vast bins, 829 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,160 stacked up on crates, 830 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,960 taken off of people as they tried to go through security. 831 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960 Mothers were being told that if they wanted 832 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960 to take their baby's milk on board, 833 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,800 they had to taste it in front of a security guard 834 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,800 to make sure that it was actually milk. 835 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,960 This was a seismic shift in the way that we travel. 836 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,960 As the world tries to make sense of a new way of travel, 837 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,960 six weeks of Operation Overt have come to a head. 838 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,800 For Anna and her MI5 colleagues, 839 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,960 the sacrifices have been significant. 840 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,960 I dropped off the face of the earth for a few weeks... 841 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,960 ..not long before I was due to get married. 842 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,960 And that's the point that my fiance and I decided 843 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960 that we probably needed to tell our parents 844 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,960 what I did for a living, 845 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,960 so that they didn't think I'd gone flakey. 846 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,000 But, I mean, these are the kind of jobs that we all join to work on. 847 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,960 In the following days and weeks, 848 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960 British police gather an enormous haul of evidence. 849 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,320 PETER CLARKE: The scale was bigger 850 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960 than probably anything else we'd done. 851 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960 But the plotters had not yet bought flight tickets, 852 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,000 and the bombs were not yet viable. 853 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960 There are multiple trials. 854 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,960 REPORTER: All eight men accused of plotting to blow up aircraft 855 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,960 deny the charges, and the case continues. 856 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,960 And in the second trial, in 2009, 857 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,960 Ali, Sarwar and Ali's friend Tanvir Hussain 858 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,800 are convicted of a plot to bomb transatlantic flights. 859 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,960 Five others are found guilty of conspiracy to murder. 860 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,960 And two more are convicted of terrorism preparation offences. 861 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,960 But what, then, of Mohammed Gulzar, 862 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,960 the man who met Ali and Sarwar 863 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,960 just three days before their arrests? 864 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,960 He is acquitted. 865 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,960 He did not record a martyrdom video, nor did he enter the bomb factory, 866 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:01,960 and there is no conclusive evidence against him. 867 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,800 But investigators believe emails discovered later 868 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,640 might have changed that outcome. 869 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,960 Those emails showed Gulzar had lied in court. 870 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,960 And at Ali and Sarwar's retrial, 871 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,000 they both accepted that Gulzar had been sent to them 872 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,960 as an explosives expert. 873 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,640 CHRIS: There was information in those emails 874 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,960 that showed Gulzar's role. 875 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,960 I then submitted a report to the CPS 876 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,160 saying that we now have new evidence, 877 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,960 and we were looking for a retrial. 878 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,480 The reply that came back was that they didn't feel 879 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,960 it reached the threshold. 880 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,960 I think the fact we didn't have that intelligence, 881 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,960 and we didn't understand his role, meant we couldn't prove it in court. 882 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,160 Today, Mohammed Yasar Gulzar still lives in the West Midlands. 883 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,960 He declined our offer to contribute to this programme. 884 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,960 As for Rashid Rauf, the boy from Birmingham, 885 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,960 he suffers a different fate 886 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,960 following his arrest in Pakistan in August 2006. 887 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,960 At one point, he makes a court appearance, 888 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,320 and then, several hours later, he disappears. 889 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,960 He never shows back up in his prison cell. 890 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,960 So, what happened to him? 891 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,960 And the answer is, we don't really know. 892 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,960 MICHAEL CHERTOFF: I was unhappy, to say the least, 893 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,960 that he had escaped. 894 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,960 And, of course, we were always concerned about how that happened. 895 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,960 Was that aided and abetted by some insider? 896 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,800 When we heard that, 897 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,960 we, I have to say, raised our eyebrows. 898 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,960 I don't think we ever got to the bottom of it. 899 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,960 After he escaped and went back 900 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960 to the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan, 901 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,960 he spent some time doing external operations. 902 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,960 American intelligence officials believe that Rauf was killed 903 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,960 in a US drone strike in November 2008. 904 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,800 He died in an explosion with other Al-Qaeda members 905 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,960 outside of Mirali in North Waziristan. 906 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,960 Twenty years on from the arrest of the plotters, 907 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960 the world would look so different today 908 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,960 had the attackers been successful. 909 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,960 We would not have recovered fully from this. 910 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,480 You would've had, probably, a death toll higher than 9/11. 911 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,800 There would have been a terror 912 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,960 in people's hearts. 913 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,960 Our psyche was already heightened. We were already scared and worried. 914 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,960 Honestly, I think you might not even have civil aviation now. 915 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,800 People would not have flown. 916 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,640 Partnerships would, perhaps, be broken. 917 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,960 The fact is that the United Kingdom would have been used 918 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,960 as a launch pad to attack America. 919 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,960 But instead, a terror attack was intercepted. 920 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,960 We got everybody. Nobody lost their lives. 921 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,960 The guilty were convicted. 922 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,960 Groups like Al-Qaeda 923 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,960 were forced to switch from organised spectaculars 924 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,960 to lone-wolf tactics. 925 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,960 Stabbings and car rammings became the trademark 926 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,960 of modern-day terrorism. 927 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,960 And ultimately, whilst our way of travel might have changed, 928 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,960 there is so much more that was protected. 929 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,960 DOUGLAS ALEXANDER: Thank God for what was achieved that night. 930 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,960 Thank God we were able to avoid 931 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,480 the level of chaos, destruction and fear 932 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,960 that would've unfolded rapidly 933 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,960 if we'd seen those airliners brought down. 934 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 78978

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