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This is the one
great voice we have
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in a democracy,
the voice of our vote.
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I don't want everybody to vote.
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Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
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they never have been,
and they are not now.
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This idea that
government is beholden
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to the people is still
the most unique idea
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in all the long history of man.
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Make sure that we
get people in office
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who are going to be responsive
to the needs of the individuals
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that they represent.
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They are changing the rules.
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That's not right,
that's not fair,
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and that is not just.
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The National Guard
has been called in
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to aid in the water
crisis in Flint, Michigan,
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a city with a water supply
contaminated with lead.
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Thousands of residents exposed
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to toxic levels of rust,
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iron, and lead want to
know who is to blame.
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Volunteers from across
the state and country
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have trucked in
water on U‐Haul trucks
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because of the city's
contaminated drinking water.
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The entire population,
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roughly 100,000 was
potentially exposed to lead.
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The Flint water
crisis really starts
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with the 2010 elections.
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In those elections,
Republicans gained
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total control of the
state government
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in Michigan.
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One of the things that
they did was they passed
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what they called an
emergency manager law.
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This law allowed
the state government
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to effectively override
local government
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and install their own executive
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to do practically
whatever they wanted
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in terms of public policy.
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Governor Snyder signed a new law
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giving financial
managers broader powers
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to fix the finances
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of communities
and school districts.
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Seven emergency
financial managers
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are in place including
in cities like Detroit,
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Flint, and Pontiac.
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These emergency
managers were described
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as virtual dictators
over their communities.
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They could impose spending cuts,
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they could re‐bargain contracts.
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They took control
to keep control.
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If that meant taking
democracy away,
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they decided that that would
be the route they would take.
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We have to send the message
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that we will not tolerate
emergency dictators in the land.
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There was widespread
grassroots opposition
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because it was so extreme.
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We fought it, we
fought it in protest,
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we fought it using our bodies.
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Shame, shame, shame, shame.
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We fought it at the ballot box.
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In November 2012, by a
pretty significant margin,
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voters rejected this extreme,
emergency manager law.
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We were excited
because grassroots won,
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everyday people won, and said,
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"We don't want
emergency management."
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And then in the midnight
hour, in a lame duck session,
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the legislature
found this loophole,
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changed some words,
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changed some commas,
and created a new law,
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and then after they changed it,
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made sure that it could
never be repealed again.
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One of the first things
that Republicans did
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when they took
over the legislature
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was they drew these
aggressive legislative districts
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that locked in
Republican majorities.
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The legislature never
would have passed
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the Emergency Manager Act
in Michigan if it had not been
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for gerrymandering.
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The people did not want
this, they went to the ballot box
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and they made that
clear in a referendum.
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But the legislature knew
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they were no longer
accountable to the people.
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They knew that
these district lines
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completely insulated them.
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Three, two, one.
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Yeah!
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Here's to Flint!
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‐ Here's to Flint! ‐ Here, here!
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My office started
getting phone calls.
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"This water is horrible, it
comes out of the tap brown."
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I'll never forget, one lady
came up to me in a meeting
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and said, "Reverend, my
dog won't drink this water."
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This crisis began over
a year ago, silently,
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when the city switched
from a Detroit water system,
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to the Flint River.
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The Flint River has
a high salt content,
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so it corroded the pipes
that it flowed through,
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and lead from those pipes
leached into the system.
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It happened because
elected officials
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had the ability to do
whatever they wanted to do.
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"If I don't ever have to
worry about being unelected,
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I don't care about your water.
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Why? Because I don't have
to be accountable to you."
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Faith in government began
to wane, faith in democracy,
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faith in the whole
process began to wane.
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I think Flint woke people up.
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Just sitting and watching,
like, these politicians
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just so blatantly disregard
the will of the people.
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You have these officials
who feel untouchable,
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who feel like they
can't get unelected
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because they've designed
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and rigged a system
to make it that way.
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I just reached a point where
it was like, why aren't we‐‐
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how can we do something
about this, like, how?
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I wanted to have some
way to come together
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and start fixing this.
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And stop accepting
that things are corrupt.
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In this age of the internet,
you're so connected to, like,
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these great examples of people
who start off on something,
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and it does work sometimes.
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And so I think I
thought, you know,
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I'm going to throw
it out into the world.
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From the moment I posted
it, I saw so many people
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who were just upset with
the current way politics
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had been happening.
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I saw that there was
a pent‐up energy.
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I was like, "I'm not alone."
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So I just thought
I would, yeah, try.
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Where you draw the lines
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makes all the difference.
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A mapmaker knows
as they draw a line
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how it's going to influence
an election precisely.
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The reason that you gerrymander
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is to make it harder
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for your opponents'
vote to count.
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And there are a few
different ways you do that.
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You can pack your opponent,
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so you can put your
opponent's supporters
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into as few
districts as possible,
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so they'll win some
seats, but you'll win
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all the other seats.
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Then there is also
cracking, that's the other way
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gerrymandering works,
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where you spread
your opponents out.
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So, fine, you'll give your
opponents 20 percent
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of the vote in a
bunch of districts,
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but they're never going
to win those districts.
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The effects of
packing and cracking
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are to create
seats that are safe.
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The winner is pre‐decided,
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just by the way that
the districts are drawn.
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It really represents
legislators picking voters,
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rather than voters
picking legislators,
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and I think most people
find that offensive.
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The system is no longer working,
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the political system
no longer works
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for the average person,
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and in Michigan, it no
longer works for Michiganders.
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So for today, we're going
to do a campaign highlight,
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kind of give everybody an
update of what's happened
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over the last month.
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We wanted to do
something about this issue,
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but to pretend that we knew
at all what we were doing
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would be a complete lie.
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I'm John Hanieski,
I'm heading up
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the finance committee.
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I got pulled out
a few weeks ago,
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I know Katie from college,
we sat next to each other
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in public policy class.
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And then I'm also
the state field director,
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so I have that group
also which consists of...
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There had been some
news pieces saying
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that there was not interest
from our elected officials
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in changing this.
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The proposal at a
glance is it's going
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to be a citizen's commission.
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And so it just felt
like an independent
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citizen‐driven commission
that would draw the lines
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in a fair and transparent
way was the way to go.
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You prescribe for fixing
this, this citizens' commission.
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Four would be Democrats,
four would be Republicans,
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five would be Independents.
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Yeah, so right now the
process happens completely
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behind closed doors and
is the most partisan thing
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that could happen.
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You have one party
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with lobbyists locking
themselves behind,
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you know, that door.
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Our process takes all
of that and throws it out
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into the open.
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Thank you guys so much
for coming out on a Saturday.
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Because I don't
do politics for a job,
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it's not a huge part of my life.
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When we started talking
to other groups, you know,
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they were like well, nobody
in your group has, you know,
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directly ran a
ballot initiative, so...
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I mean are you going out
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and talking to
groups, trying to get
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some big organizations
who might have some
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financial resources behind them?
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We're looking
to coalition build.
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It... Redistricting is
an issue that affects
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so many different things.
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So who do you have on board?
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No organizations formally yet,
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but we're working with plenty.
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You're trying to
coalition build,
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who is in your coalition?
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I think they didn't
know what to do with us.
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So this is part of the 14th
Congressional District,
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so why was it created this way?
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But we started doing
these town halls.
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Farmington has
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a good number of
Republicans in it,
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so you pull Pontiac out
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and you put it in
the next district over
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because there it
contributes to majorities
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for the other side.
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And we saw, you know, a
renewed sense of urgency
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from the people of Michigan.
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We started from a Facebook
post in social media,
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and quickly turned into a
thousand different strangers
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from across the state
that have come together
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to go through the
process, learning as we go.
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Seeing that all those
in favor of the motion
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‐ signify by saying aye. ‐ Aye.
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All those opposed?
The motion carries.
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Yes, we have something
very important for you to do.
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I'm going to cry.
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I am shaking, thank you.
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Our whole campaign
has been about the people,
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about representing accurately
the voices of the people
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and making sure that what
we actually want as change,
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doesn't get manipulated
from anybody,
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and I feel so confident
that we have done that
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and will continue to do that.
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So thanks and let's
go gather petitions.
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Yeah!
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Thanks, Joe.
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Gerrymandering takes its name
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from a man named Elbridge Gerry,
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the Governor of
Massachusetts in 1812
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who agrees to maps
that draw up wild districts.
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A political cartoonist
takes one look at this
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and thinks it looks
like a salamander,
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so it becomes known
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as gerrymandering.
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Quick sidenote, you
are not wrong to notice
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that the "gerry" in gerrymander
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refers to a guy whose name
was actually pronounced Gary
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because literally everything
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about gerrymandering
is stupid and wrong.
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All the way through
the mid to latter part
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of the 20th Century,
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gerrymandering,
though it was pervasive...
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State legislatures all over
America are at it again.
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It was never used to consolidate
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and make permanent
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the power of any
one political party.
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Gerrymandering continues to be
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an effective weapon to
maintain the status quo.
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It was often about
incumbent protection
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and both sides would do it.
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Democrats did a terrific
job of gerrymandering
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California in the 1980s.
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There was a congressman named
Phillip Burton who used to say
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that the district lines
that he drew there
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were his contribution
to modern art.
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The fact is gerrymandering
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has become a national scandal.
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The Democratic
controlled state legislatures
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have so rigged the
electoral process
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that the will of the
people cannot be heard.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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the next first family of the
United States of America.
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November 2008, we
have the historic election
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of our first African
American president.
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You see a Democratic
super majority
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in the U. S. Senate,
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and it returns a
Democratic majority
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to the U. S. House.
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The defeat is total,
Republican leaders
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just can't spin it any longer.
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Barack Obama promised to change
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the red states blue and he did.
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It is remarkable.
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If you watch the news
coverage of that night,
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folks were talking as if the
Republican party was dead
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for a generation, not simply
because of this election,
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but because of the way
American demographics
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are changing.
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I think Republicans saw the
writing on the wall which is
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there are fewer and fewer
Republicans born every day,
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and more and more
Democrats every day.
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They're running out of room.
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There's no question
now Republicans have got
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a lot of work to do.
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Something is wrong
with the Republican party.
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The damage is very severe.
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Our party is eroding by the day.
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There is always
that moment, right?
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Whenever there is
a big loss for a party,
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there's this moment of panic.
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I think those of us who
have been around a little bit
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kind of can see past the panic,
but still have the fundamental
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What are we going to do?
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How do we get back?
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And I think that,
you know, part of that
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turned out to be our
REDMAP project.
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Chris Jankowski is one
of the smartest minds
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in the Republican party.
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He understands that as
important as 2008 was,
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2010 had the opportunity
to be a much more
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important election.
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2010 is a zero year,
elections ending in zero
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are more consequential
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because it's a census
year and we redistrict
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every state legislative
seat and congressional seat
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following the census.
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The census provides an
estimate of how many people
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are in every state,
and every county,
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and every block.
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As per the constitution,
in order to keep up
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with population shifts,
they build new state
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and congressional districts.
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In 80 percent of all states,
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it's the state legislatures
that play the key role
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in redistricting.
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If you win state
legislatures in 2010,
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you get to draw the new maps
that control all the elections
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over the next decade,
and they knew that.
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Jankowski goes to
Republican donors
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and says I can deliver
two things for you.
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I can deliver conservative
control of congress,
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perhaps for a decade,
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but I can also promise
Republican control
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the state legislatures
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and we can move a
conservative agenda
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through the states as well.
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It was a very easy sell to those
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who were involved
in state elections.
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What we did was we took the cost
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of swing congressional seats
over 10 years, five elections,
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and we pegged that at
over 100 million per election.
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We said okay for this
price we can get control
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of those state legislatures
and re‐draw the maps.
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We projected it would be
quite a cost‐efficient endeavor.
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25, 30 million
dollars rather than
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almost half a billion.
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If you look at the donors
to this project you see
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the big money interests that
help fund the Republican party
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and conservative
politics in the country.
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Walmart.
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Altria which is big tobacco.
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The Chamber of Commerce.
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Establishment
corporate interests,
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like the Koch brothers.
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2010 already was
setting up to be a big year
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for the Republicans, but
what they wanted to do
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was win the right seats.
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The key seats that would
allow them to have an influence
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on the redistricting process.
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It was Wisconsin,
Ohio, Pennsylvania,
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North Carolina, Colorado.
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You know Michigan, I
had looked at their map,
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looked at their
research, and their plan,
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and I said, "Okay,
we're in for a million,"
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and they said, "Really?"
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And I said, "Yep, so I
want you to spread this map.
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Act like you've got
another million."
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They spent tons and
tons of money in races
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where people had never
even seen TV ads before.
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Senator Reynolds supports
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Obama's health care takeover.
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A billion‐dollar tax
increase to fund
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more government spending.
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Unemployment has almost doubled.
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We looked and said okay,
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looks like crime
is an issue here.
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This incumbent
has bad crime votes,
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so we're going to
educate them on that.
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You know this is
a bad budget vote,
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this is a bad school vote.
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We went wherever the
data suggested we should go.
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We had no idea what
was about to hit us.
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Nobody had ever
seen anything like it.
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In the last weeks
of that campaign,
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mailers from my opponent
were arriving every day.
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Incumbent senator
Margaret Dickson,
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who does she really care about?
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Right at the end there
was a campaign ad
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against me that portrayed
me apparently as a prostitute.
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What does Margaret Dickson
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really care about?
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I didn't really sense
it in North Carolina
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until the very end,
and I saw it in my race,
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and I saw it when I
talked to colleagues,
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they were having
the same experience.
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We all had kind of
this "ah‐ha" moment.
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And it was true, it
wasn't just North Carolina,
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it was true across the country.
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It's shaping up as a
big Republican night.
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It is being called a GOP sweep
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and a Tea Party tidal wave.
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We knew it was going
to be a good night.
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The Friday before that, I went
out on a limb and predicted
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we would pick up at least
10 legislative chambers
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and possibly higher.
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And right after I got off
the phone with that reporter
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I thought, "Ooph, that
seems, yeah, I believe it,
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I see it in the data, but it
just seems really amazing."
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But then as the night
unfolded we took everything
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we intended to take.
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North Carolina
House and Senate flip
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to the Republicans for
the first time since 1870.
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The Indiana House has flipped,
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the Pennsylvania
House has flipped,
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Michigan House has flipped,
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the Ohio House has flipped,
the Iowa House has flipped.
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A tsunami just
hit the heartland.
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This was actually
something that wasn't covered
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a whole lot at the time.
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A dozen or so states would
turn into Republican hands
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and would now have
control over drawing all
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of the district boundaries.
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They did this for
30 million dollars.
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It's the biggest bargain
and perhaps the biggest heist
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in modern American
political history.
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For us, it was
mission accomplished.
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And then the second part of
the plan was what happened
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with redrawing the lines.
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We sent out a letter
to all of the new leaders
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and said, "If you
need resources,
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we would be happy to
provide those for you."
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They say, "If you
need mapping help,
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if you need legal
help, you let us know,
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we've got the money for you.
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We have the experts, we
have the money, let us help."
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Tom Hofeller is
kind of a superstar
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in gerrymandering.
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It's my job to advise
Republican stakeholders
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in the redistricting question
on how they can maneuver
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through these thickets.
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He goes around and works
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for Republican legislators
in multiple states
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and will draw their maps.
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There is something almost like
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00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,489
an old country
doctor about Hofeller.
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He would pack his old kit
bag, you know, with his laptop,
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kiss his wife in Alexandria,
Virginia goodbye,
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and pet his dog.
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And then set off into a country
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that was about to
be redrawn by him.
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Redistricting used to
be done by legislators
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or their legislative staff,
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so it was always
a partisan project,
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but at least people
lived in the state,
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and they knew the people,
and they knew the politics.
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These people out of Washington,
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all they know is
where the airport is
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when they come down
and deliver the plans.
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And they also know how to
use sophisticated software
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to maximize political results.
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Hofeller has got
a piece of software
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and he downloads a bunch
of political data into that
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and he spits out the
most partisan map
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that he thinks the
courts will allow.
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Gerrymandering from
1788 through 2000
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is in its minor leagues.
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In 2010, gerrymandering
jumps straight
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into its steroids era.
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Big data and big technology
emerge in such a way
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that you can carve
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00:26:02,996 --> 00:26:05,165
more precise
gerrymanders than ever.
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They used census
data, educational levels,
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income levels.
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00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:18,512
Voters' partisan history,
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their race and their
gender, and their age,
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those factors tell you
so much about a voter
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that you can predict
how they're going to vote
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in a few years with a
strong degree of confidence.
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They could go down the
street and, "These people
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are Republicans, we're
going to put them in this district,
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these people are Democrats,
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we're going to put
them over here."
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There was no transparency at all
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because they were
using private computers,
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they were being drawn off site
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by hired Republican consultants.
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Picture a black box.
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Whatever happens inside
that black box, you can't see.
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They just come out and
they say here is the map.
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It was a flawlessly
functioning map.
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Every single district
hit what you might call
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the sweet spot, safe
enough for Republicans
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to consistently win it,
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but it didn't waste
excess votes,
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they could have spread
around to other districts.
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On the other hand,
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the few Democratic
districts they drew
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were designed to quarantine
as many Democratic voters
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as possible.
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So, here is what they do.
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They get data on where
all the African Americans live
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and then they just
draw lines around it
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00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:27,714
so the really crazy
looking maps,
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the really squiggly
looking ones,
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the reason they're squiggly
is because they're picking up
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all the African
American communities
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all throughout the state.
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Take a look at North
Carolina's congressional map.
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Look at District 12,
it's so weirdly shaped
512
00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:42,028
they can't even
fit the 12 in it.
513
00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:45,398
Looks like a Rorschach test,
what do you see in this shape?
514
00:27:45,532 --> 00:27:48,201
I don't know, it's either
a dragon or 300 years
515
00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,636
of institutional racism.
516
00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:55,041
Republicans have cynically
517
00:27:55,175 --> 00:27:57,410
put more and more
minorities into what's called
518
00:27:57,544 --> 00:27:58,945
the majority minority district.
519
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,081
So the district goes
50 percent minority,
520
00:28:01,214 --> 00:28:03,483
to 60 percent minority,
to 70 percent minority,
521
00:28:03,617 --> 00:28:06,520
and the reason they're
doing this is so that minorities
522
00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:10,356
will have less impact in
all of the other districts.
523
00:28:12,225 --> 00:28:14,895
And that was exactly the
strategy that Tom Hofeller
524
00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:16,730
used in North Carolina.
525
00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:19,399
Funneling as many
black voters as possible
526
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,434
into the 1st and 12th
Congressional Districts,
527
00:28:21,568 --> 00:28:24,705
while bleaching the
surrounding areas.
528
00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:29,009
The truth is
529
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,878
the Republicans targeted
African Americans,
530
00:28:32,713 --> 00:28:35,081
but the motivation wasn't,
531
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:36,950
"We want to hurt
African‐Americans,"
532
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,885
it was "We want
to hurt Democrats."
533
00:28:42,523 --> 00:28:44,390
One of Hofeller's
crowning achievements
534
00:28:44,525 --> 00:28:45,992
is what he did in
the western part
535
00:28:46,126 --> 00:28:47,393
of North Carolina,
536
00:28:47,828 --> 00:28:50,296
in particular, the district
that was occupied at the time
537
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:53,233
by a moderate
Democrat, Heath Shuler.
538
00:28:54,701 --> 00:28:56,469
Heath Shuler was a former
539
00:28:56,603 --> 00:28:58,138
University of
Tennessee quarterback.
540
00:28:58,772 --> 00:29:02,042
He was kind of a moderate
to conservative Democrat.
541
00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:03,409
You didn't send me up there
542
00:29:03,544 --> 00:29:05,045
to blindly follow any one party,
543
00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:06,747
you sent me up
there to do what's right
544
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,948
for our mountain families.
545
00:29:08,582 --> 00:29:11,251
Loved guns, is anti‐abortion,
546
00:29:11,552 --> 00:29:14,320
he was the very picture
of a good old boy.
547
00:29:15,155 --> 00:29:17,457
And so you can't really
run against this guy
548
00:29:17,591 --> 00:29:19,860
like he's a San
Francisco Democrat.
549
00:29:20,661 --> 00:29:22,629
So they had to change
the guy's district.
550
00:29:23,496 --> 00:29:26,933
The most Democratic area
of his district was Asheville,
551
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:28,427
which is this little
Haight‐Ashbury
552
00:29:28,468 --> 00:29:29,708
in the middle of the mountains.
553
00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:34,975
Hofeller just essentially
carved Asheville
554
00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:38,244
out of that map and
moved it to another area,
555
00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:42,849
an area that was so Republican
that it could absorb Asheville.
556
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:46,787
Suddenly that part
of Buncombe County
557
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,321
where Asheville was a part
558
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,024
was suddenly quite
a conservative district.
559
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:57,130
Heath Shuler, recognizing
the writing on the wall,
560
00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:59,365
retires from
politics altogether.
561
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,068
Suddenly now it's there
for the taking by Republicans
562
00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:04,771
and the guy who wins it is a
guy named Mark Meadows.
563
00:30:04,905 --> 00:30:06,807
2012 is the time
564
00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:09,009
that we're going to
send Mr. Obama home
565
00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,678
to Kenya or wherever
it is, we're going to do it.
566
00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:14,515
Meadows is now
567
00:30:14,648 --> 00:30:16,517
the chairman of
the Freedom Caucus
568
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,653
which is the hardline group in
the House of Representatives
569
00:30:19,786 --> 00:30:22,789
that opposes anything
that is not orthodox,
570
00:30:22,923 --> 00:30:24,124
you know, conservatism.
571
00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:27,160
Replacement of
people like Shuler
572
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:28,595
with people like Meadows
573
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,363
is actually one of
the reasons why
574
00:30:30,631 --> 00:30:32,575
the country, as a whole, has
become so hyper‐partisan.
575
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,501
Candidates in the middle,
both moderate Republicans
576
00:30:35,636 --> 00:30:38,772
and conservative Democrats,
they've been the key targets.
577
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:42,576
It moves our political
system towards polarization.
578
00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,113
When a member of
congress need only fear
579
00:30:47,247 --> 00:30:48,248
a primary challenge,
580
00:30:48,749 --> 00:30:50,884
when they are so
safe in their seat
581
00:30:51,184 --> 00:30:54,020
that they cannot
actually lose an election,
582
00:30:54,487 --> 00:30:56,657
all they care about
is guarding their base.
583
00:30:57,390 --> 00:31:00,093
So working across
the aisle, compromise,
584
00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:02,195
trying to find common
ground, all of the things
585
00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:04,030
we used to think
of as being central
586
00:31:04,164 --> 00:31:05,498
to the art of politics
587
00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:08,569
actually become the only things
that can cost them their seat.
588
00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,738
These are all shrink‐wrapped
in packages of a hundred
589
00:31:35,762 --> 00:31:37,097
and so are the petitions,
590
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:38,741
so I'm just going to make
sure that you have 19.
591
00:31:38,765 --> 00:31:40,266
‐ These look great.
‐ Yeah, they do.
592
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,811
Then it's only for
people who signed,
593
00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:43,279
people who don't
sign don't get anything.
594
00:31:43,303 --> 00:31:45,038
Yeah, they don't.
595
00:31:48,308 --> 00:31:49,543
So, that's where we're headed.
596
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,430
Are you guys registered
to vote in Michigan?
597
00:31:51,545 --> 00:31:53,265
Excuse me, ma'am,
are you a registered voter
598
00:31:53,313 --> 00:31:54,615
here in Michigan?
599
00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:56,225
Have you had a chance
to sign the petition
600
00:31:56,249 --> 00:31:57,884
to end gerrymandering
in Michigan?
601
00:31:58,018 --> 00:31:59,319
To end what?
602
00:31:59,452 --> 00:32:00,772
Would you be
interested in signing
603
00:32:00,887 --> 00:32:02,322
a petition against
gerrymandering?
604
00:32:02,455 --> 00:32:03,957
Against what's that?
605
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,391
Gerrymandering.
606
00:32:05,726 --> 00:32:07,393
In Michigan it is
almost impossible
607
00:32:07,528 --> 00:32:10,463
for a petition drive to
gather enough signatures
608
00:32:10,664 --> 00:32:14,134
without using paid
professional petition circulators.
609
00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:15,569
You're not paying for names.
610
00:32:15,736 --> 00:32:17,237
‐ Correct. ‐ And
you don't intend to?
611
00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:18,605
Correct, yeah.
612
00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,316
Right now, we're at two
weeks in officially today,
613
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:21,575
we have 50,000 signatures
614
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,219
that have been gathered
a hundred percent
615
00:32:23,243 --> 00:32:24,645
by volunteers from
across the state.
616
00:32:24,845 --> 00:32:26,613
We're working with
Voters Not Politicians
617
00:32:26,747 --> 00:32:28,381
for the
anti‐gerrymandering drive.
618
00:32:28,515 --> 00:32:30,226
Because right now
politicians are manipulating
619
00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,318
the system, so then
they don't listen to voters.
620
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,355
Hi, this is Katie,
I'm doing a super,
621
00:32:35,488 --> 00:32:37,123
super late weekly update.
622
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:41,261
I just wanted to say thank
you to every single person
623
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,765
who decided to start
gathering signatures.
624
00:32:45,165 --> 00:32:46,900
So I would start
with today's date.
625
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,636
The anti‐fracking
movement had a lot of energy
626
00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:52,105
and they failed to get
the signatures needed
627
00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:53,540
to get on the ballot.
628
00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:55,314
‐ Do you know about
the topic? ‐ Oh, yeah.
629
00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:56,621
You're all set, okay, wonderful.
630
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,378
I mean, the only group ever
631
00:32:58,512 --> 00:33:00,152
to manage getting a
petition on the ballot
632
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,415
using only volunteers
was Right to Life.
633
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:04,751
If anyone else is
interested in signing.
634
00:33:04,885 --> 00:33:07,053
I'm not sure if anyone
has been paying attention
635
00:33:07,187 --> 00:33:08,889
at all to our ticker,
636
00:33:09,055 --> 00:33:12,926
but we are at
196,000 signatures,
637
00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:14,661
which is absolutely amazing.
638
00:33:14,795 --> 00:33:18,331
They're not only on
pace to get the 400,000
639
00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,934
that they want, but they,
it looks like they're going
640
00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:24,671
to do it before their deadline
which is really amazing.
641
00:33:24,805 --> 00:33:26,339
I tell you these
folks are everywhere.
642
00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:27,817
I mean I can't go
to a public event
643
00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:29,009
without seeing them.
644
00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:30,820
Oh my gosh, remember
right after we got approval
645
00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:32,489
where they called all
our people old ladies
646
00:33:32,513 --> 00:33:34,214
who aren't going to
get anything done?
647
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,650
They're like, their minds
are blown, it's awesome.
648
00:33:45,892 --> 00:33:48,595
Aww, goodbye, hair.
649
00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,764
Ah, I wish I was better at this.
650
00:33:50,897 --> 00:33:52,165
It's pretty bad.
651
00:33:52,298 --> 00:33:54,034
Not as much as I do.
652
00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:04,144
Today we turn in our signatures
653
00:34:04,277 --> 00:34:05,646
to the Secretary of State.
654
00:34:05,779 --> 00:34:07,881
Who would have known
that a little over a year ago
655
00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:11,618
we would be here today
turning them in two months early
656
00:34:11,752 --> 00:34:13,053
with all volunteers?
657
00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:14,454
In under 40 days
658
00:34:14,588 --> 00:34:17,057
we got all 83
counties represented
659
00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:18,491
and that is only possible
660
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,493
because all of you
guys decided to say,
661
00:34:20,627 --> 00:34:22,763
"Heck yeah I'm going
to join onto this thing."
662
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,331
Here is where we're
loading up the petitions.
663
00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:27,200
I'm not sure if
everybody can see this,
664
00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:31,271
but there are literally
rows and rows of boxes.
665
00:34:36,977 --> 00:34:40,881
I remember the first time I
saw this group get together
666
00:34:41,081 --> 00:34:42,549
and talk about it and, you know,
667
00:34:42,683 --> 00:34:44,651
I'm a veteran
political reporter,
668
00:34:44,785 --> 00:34:45,819
I'll have you know.
669
00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:48,622
And I looked at these people
and I was like, "No way."
670
00:34:49,122 --> 00:34:50,356
No way.
671
00:34:50,557 --> 00:34:52,826
I know what a winning
operation looks like
672
00:34:52,959 --> 00:34:54,194
and this isn't it.
673
00:34:54,928 --> 00:34:58,164
They have turned
every political operative's
674
00:34:58,298 --> 00:35:00,534
predictions on their head.
675
00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:03,737
They have really
blown the box up
676
00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:06,573
and there is no more box,
they have reinvented everything.
677
00:35:06,707 --> 00:35:08,875
Our proposal will take
redistricting out of the hands
678
00:35:09,009 --> 00:35:10,310
of politicians and lobbyists
679
00:35:10,443 --> 00:35:12,045
who do their work
behind closed doors
680
00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:15,315
and give it to citizens
who will do it in the public.
681
00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:17,283
What we've seen in other
states who have done
682
00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:19,152
redistricting efforts
similar to ours
683
00:35:19,285 --> 00:35:20,563
is you see higher voter turnout.
684
00:35:20,587 --> 00:35:22,022
There's about
13 different states
685
00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:23,957
that have independent
commissions.
686
00:35:28,361 --> 00:35:29,696
Our U‐Haul.
687
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:32,165
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There
it is, a really full truck.
688
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,771
Thousands of people
worked on this campaign.
689
00:35:38,939 --> 00:35:40,941
If we can get this
passed in 2018,
690
00:35:41,074 --> 00:35:44,611
there will be thousands
of people who affected law
691
00:35:44,745 --> 00:35:46,580
that will affect every
election in Michigan.
692
00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:49,415
It was for and by the
people and I know that's like
693
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:51,317
kind of hokey, and
kind of like, you know,
694
00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:53,453
really Founding
Fathers‐y, but like the fact
695
00:35:53,587 --> 00:35:55,522
that we would actually
be able to do that
696
00:35:55,656 --> 00:35:57,991
and prove that
democracy is still out there,
697
00:35:58,291 --> 00:35:59,359
that's amazing.
698
00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:01,762
No matter what you
do for this campaign,
699
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:06,833
entering the check numbers,
like it all is only possible
700
00:36:06,967 --> 00:36:08,301
because of each of you.
701
00:36:08,535 --> 00:36:10,937
And I know at least on
my end, that's the best part
702
00:36:11,071 --> 00:36:14,407
about this campaign is seeing
that really the political power
703
00:36:14,541 --> 00:36:17,477
is inherent in the
people, so yeah!
704
00:36:35,061 --> 00:36:37,197
The one thing
that we are sure of
705
00:36:37,397 --> 00:36:39,866
is that legislators
will fight like crazy
706
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,467
to retain this power they have.
707
00:36:41,735 --> 00:36:44,337
I think there will be a
vicious fight by the people
708
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,907
who are in power to
preserve that power.
709
00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:48,818
They're going to want
to try to find some way
710
00:36:48,842 --> 00:36:50,877
to litigate us, to keep
us off from the ballot.
711
00:36:51,077 --> 00:36:52,913
We are not going to
outspend our opposition.
712
00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:55,481
We might get lucky and
get outspent four to one.
713
00:36:55,616 --> 00:36:58,151
We're probably going to
get outspent 10 to 20 to one.
714
00:36:58,284 --> 00:37:01,321
The opposition is going to
try to bleed us dry financially.
715
00:37:01,454 --> 00:37:03,456
And then they're
going to go for the PR.
716
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,559
They're going to be
saying that we are complex,
717
00:37:05,759 --> 00:37:08,529
that we are complicated,
and that we're confusing.
718
00:37:08,662 --> 00:37:11,765
We cannot make our
policy sound even a little bit...
719
00:37:12,032 --> 00:37:14,868
complex, confusing at all.
720
00:37:15,035 --> 00:37:16,269
Like, we have to make sure
721
00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:17,847
it's a very simple
and direct approach,
722
00:37:17,871 --> 00:37:19,272
and that the
language that we use
723
00:37:19,405 --> 00:37:21,307
to describe the
policy reflects that.
724
00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,077
They're absolutely
worried about us.
725
00:37:24,578 --> 00:37:25,679
They know and we know
726
00:37:25,812 --> 00:37:26,923
that once this
gets on the ballot,
727
00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:28,381
it almost always passes.
728
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:20,534
The election of 2010 had
been the Tea Party wave
729
00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:23,269
and the redistricting
that followed
730
00:38:23,403 --> 00:38:24,871
the election of 2010
731
00:38:25,005 --> 00:38:28,174
would keep those
legislators in their seats.
732
00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:32,045
In a normal political cycle,
we would expect a wave
733
00:38:32,178 --> 00:38:33,847
to come in and a wave to recede,
734
00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,016
and a wave to come in
and a wave to recede.
735
00:38:36,182 --> 00:38:37,462
We see this over and over again.
736
00:38:37,818 --> 00:38:41,622
The election of 2010
was a giant wave
737
00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:43,757
and the Republican Party
738
00:38:43,924 --> 00:38:46,627
put up an enormous
sea wall in order to stop
739
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,328
that wave from receding.
740
00:38:48,595 --> 00:38:50,797
And when that happened,
we have seen extreme policy
741
00:38:50,931 --> 00:38:51,965
as a result.
742
00:39:08,314 --> 00:39:11,985
Wisconsin is basically
an evenly divided state.
743
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,354
Half of the state is Republican
744
00:39:14,487 --> 00:39:16,422
and half the state
is Democratic.
745
00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:24,397
In 2010, Project REDMAP
and the Republicans
746
00:39:24,565 --> 00:39:25,866
invested a large amount
747
00:39:25,999 --> 00:39:28,635
of very strategically
targeted money.
748
00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:31,538
They took the State
Assembly and the State Senate
749
00:39:31,772 --> 00:39:33,874
and they won the governorship.
750
00:39:35,475 --> 00:39:36,843
No matter where you live,
751
00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:38,478
no matter what your background,
752
00:39:38,612 --> 00:39:39,846
no matter who you voted for,
753
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,982
we all live in
Wisconsin together,
754
00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,851
and we're going to move
this state forward together.
755
00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:48,021
Scott Walker just swept in
756
00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:49,923
with the rest of
the Republicans.
757
00:39:50,056 --> 00:39:51,868
I mean the slate went
from everything Democratic,
758
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,995
to everything
Republican, everything.
759
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:59,299
REDMAP, for us,
was only the beginning.
760
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:01,902
State governments,
like Wisconsin,
761
00:40:02,035 --> 00:40:04,304
were little laboratories
of democracy.
762
00:40:04,738 --> 00:40:06,573
Now that we got control of them,
763
00:40:06,707 --> 00:40:08,027
we wanted to do
something with it.
764
00:40:08,108 --> 00:40:10,043
‐ Good morning. ‐ Good morning.
765
00:40:10,844 --> 00:40:12,644
I see everyone's here
to see my prediction for
766
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,115
the Ohio State/Wisconsin
game on Saturday.
767
00:40:23,389 --> 00:40:26,660
In this bill will be a change
in terms of state employees
768
00:40:26,993 --> 00:40:30,163
not being required to
be a part of their union.
769
00:40:30,897 --> 00:40:33,066
Act 10 would essentially do away
770
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:35,536
with collective bargaining
for public sector employees.
771
00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:37,747
That was something that
had been a long tradition
772
00:40:37,771 --> 00:40:39,849
in Wisconsin, had been a
cherished part of the state.
773
00:40:39,873 --> 00:40:41,241
That was a total surprise.
774
00:40:41,374 --> 00:40:42,843
This is a significant change,
775
00:40:43,143 --> 00:40:45,646
this is obviously a very
bold and aggressive change.
776
00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:47,614
The Republicans,
they understood,
777
00:40:47,748 --> 00:40:50,383
Scott Walker understood
that public sector unions,
778
00:40:50,517 --> 00:40:52,586
the teachers, the
municipal workers,
779
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,220
the folks that pick
up your garbage,
780
00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:57,858
they tend to vote Democratic
and they use their unions
781
00:40:57,991 --> 00:41:01,762
as a means of promoting
their political views.
782
00:41:01,895 --> 00:41:03,196
Thanks very much for your time.
783
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,165
So he wanted to destroy that.
784
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,669
I knew what this would mean.
785
00:41:09,102 --> 00:41:13,473
It came up in caucus and I
think my exact words were,
786
00:41:13,607 --> 00:41:14,908
"Are you crazy?"
787
00:41:15,241 --> 00:41:17,678
People kill each other's
dogs over this kind of stuff.
788
00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:30,156
When Act 10 was
introduced, the entire state
789
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:32,125
just rose up in anger.
790
00:41:32,258 --> 00:41:34,427
We are proud to stand with you,
791
00:41:34,561 --> 00:41:35,862
Wisconsin backers.
792
00:41:37,731 --> 00:41:40,266
First there was 10,000,
then there was 20,000,
793
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,436
then there were 30,000,
and this thing just sparked.
794
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:47,674
Hey, hey, ho, ho, Scott
Walker has got to go.
795
00:41:48,642 --> 00:41:50,711
Tens of thousands of
people in the capitol.
796
00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:54,414
Solidarity forever.
797
00:41:54,748 --> 00:41:57,818
As many as 100,00 on the
capitol ground some days
798
00:41:57,951 --> 00:41:59,791
and this thing is sustained
for days, and days,
799
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,254
and weeks, and weeks.
800
00:42:07,327 --> 00:42:11,364
It's just hard to express
how angry people were.
801
00:42:12,432 --> 00:42:14,935
You know this is a
place like Minnesota,
802
00:42:15,068 --> 00:42:18,238
people are basically
nice, and suddenly we had
803
00:42:18,404 --> 00:42:21,842
this incredible,
polarized atmosphere.
804
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:26,446
‐ We are the union!
‐ We are the union!
805
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:28,414
The mighty, mighty union.
806
00:42:28,615 --> 00:42:31,184
We were a state that
had a strong tradition
807
00:42:31,317 --> 00:42:32,853
of trade unions.
808
00:42:33,987 --> 00:42:37,591
People thought, "What in
the world is he trying to do?"
809
00:42:43,096 --> 00:42:44,698
Hi, this is Scott Walker.
810
00:42:44,931 --> 00:42:47,100
Scott, David Koch, how are you?
811
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,502
Hey, David, I'm
good, and yourself?
812
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:50,971
I'm very well.
813
00:42:51,204 --> 00:42:52,884
Little disheartened
by the situation there,
814
00:42:53,006 --> 00:42:54,841
but what's the latest?
815
00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:57,377
We're actually
hanging pretty tough.
816
00:42:57,511 --> 00:43:00,514
You know amazingly there
is a much smaller group
817
00:43:00,647 --> 00:43:02,248
of protesters,
almost all of whom
818
00:43:02,382 --> 00:43:04,150
are in from other states today.
819
00:43:12,626 --> 00:43:14,094
5,000 to 6,000 state workers
820
00:43:14,227 --> 00:43:16,096
will get at‐risk
notices for layoffs.
821
00:43:16,329 --> 00:43:18,298
We might ratchet that
up a little bit, you know.
822
00:43:18,464 --> 00:43:19,900
Beautiful, beautiful,
823
00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:21,735
got to crush that union.
824
00:43:22,402 --> 00:43:24,905
Just as there were all
these protesters begging
825
00:43:25,038 --> 00:43:26,673
this governor to listen to them,
826
00:43:27,473 --> 00:43:29,776
the person who he
was willing to listen to
827
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:31,044
and so eager to please
828
00:43:31,177 --> 00:43:33,113
was an out‐of‐state billionaire.
829
00:43:33,279 --> 00:43:35,415
He talked about coordinating
with other governors,
830
00:43:35,549 --> 00:43:38,685
which made it very clear
that this is a national plan.
831
00:43:38,819 --> 00:43:40,153
I talk to Kasich every day,
832
00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:42,756
you know, John has
got to stand firm in Ohio.
833
00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:45,926
I think we can do the same
thing with Rick Scott in Florida.
834
00:43:46,059 --> 00:43:49,062
I think Snyder if he
got a little more support,
835
00:43:49,195 --> 00:43:50,764
probably could
do that in Michigan.
836
00:43:50,897 --> 00:43:52,766
This was a test run
to see if they could
837
00:43:52,899 --> 00:43:55,268
run over public employee
unions nationwide.
838
00:43:55,468 --> 00:43:57,403
There's a lot of us new
governors who got elected
839
00:43:57,538 --> 00:43:58,805
to do something big.
840
00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:00,707
You're the first domino.
841
00:44:00,874 --> 00:44:03,209
Yep, this is our moment.
842
00:44:11,552 --> 00:44:14,555
Republicans had no
fear of losing power
843
00:44:14,988 --> 00:44:16,289
because they
could draw districts
844
00:44:16,422 --> 00:44:18,825
to insulate themselves
from public opinion.
845
00:44:21,094 --> 00:44:22,596
The leadership of
the Republican Party
846
00:44:22,729 --> 00:44:24,665
in both the House and
the Senate in Wisconsin
847
00:44:24,798 --> 00:44:29,169
are able to tell their members,
"It's okay to vote for this.
848
00:44:29,402 --> 00:44:31,872
It might not be
popular, stay strong,
849
00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:34,307
we are drawing you a
seat you cannot lose."
850
00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,047
While the streets were
full of people demonstrating,
851
00:44:41,214 --> 00:44:42,883
hundreds of thousands of people,
852
00:44:43,449 --> 00:44:45,819
what we didn't know
was that Scott Walker
853
00:44:45,952 --> 00:44:48,321
and the legislature
took the computers
854
00:44:48,454 --> 00:44:50,123
that they were going
to use to redistrict
855
00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:52,458
out of the capitol building,
and they moved them
856
00:44:52,593 --> 00:44:54,961
across the street to
a Republican law firm
857
00:44:55,095 --> 00:44:57,097
by the name of Michael
Best and Friedrich.
858
00:44:58,565 --> 00:45:01,334
And in the very back of
that law firm they set up
859
00:45:01,467 --> 00:45:03,336
a secret mapping room.
860
00:45:06,339 --> 00:45:10,744
It's an incredibly powerful
and jarring juxtaposition.
861
00:45:11,011 --> 00:45:13,313
You have these two
things playing out,
862
00:45:13,514 --> 00:45:15,448
there's all these
people protesting
863
00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:17,150
the anti‐union legislation.
864
00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:20,721
Right across the street,
key aides to the legislature
865
00:45:20,854 --> 00:45:22,188
are writing, in secret,
866
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,257
the redistricting maps
that will determine
867
00:45:24,424 --> 00:45:26,727
Republicans' power
for the next decade.
868
00:45:28,695 --> 00:45:30,564
Knowing that they
had both houses
869
00:45:30,697 --> 00:45:31,932
of the legislature,
870
00:45:32,132 --> 00:45:33,634
they did everything
they could to hide
871
00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:36,570
their map drawing process
not only from the public,
872
00:45:36,703 --> 00:45:38,404
but even from most Republicans.
873
00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:42,108
Nobody could even
come into the room
874
00:45:42,242 --> 00:45:43,977
unless you signed a
secrecy agreement.
875
00:45:44,377 --> 00:45:46,046
And if you'd signed
that secrecy agreement
876
00:45:46,179 --> 00:45:47,681
and you managed
to get into the room,
877
00:45:47,814 --> 00:45:49,425
which you could only do
if you were a Republican,
878
00:45:49,449 --> 00:45:52,452
you were only allowed
to see your own map.
879
00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:56,389
So you have before
you the various maps
880
00:45:56,523 --> 00:45:59,560
and we have some other
members of the legislation here
881
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,027
and we're open for questions.
882
00:46:02,095 --> 00:46:03,630
When we first see the maps,
883
00:46:03,764 --> 00:46:06,232
it's obvious that there's
some significant bias in them.
884
00:46:08,268 --> 00:46:10,436
Some individual
legislators had been drawn
885
00:46:10,571 --> 00:46:12,072
competing districts
886
00:46:12,338 --> 00:46:14,458
that were going to be much
tougher for them to win in.
887
00:46:15,208 --> 00:46:17,143
There were these
districts that were drawn
888
00:46:17,277 --> 00:46:20,180
to pull Democratic voters
into suburban districts
889
00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:22,282
so there would be fewer
Democratic districts.
890
00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:24,627
And there were clearly
some districts that were going
891
00:46:24,651 --> 00:46:25,952
to be less competitive.
892
00:46:28,421 --> 00:46:31,157
It was very well calculated.
893
00:46:31,357 --> 00:46:34,427
They knew exactly
what they were doing.
894
00:46:34,628 --> 00:46:35,896
We're closing in
895
00:46:36,296 --> 00:46:38,456
on the first results in the
battle for the White House.
896
00:46:51,011 --> 00:46:53,780
When the results were
known on election night
897
00:46:53,914 --> 00:46:56,382
and we had been
killed in the election,
898
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:59,119
somebody said, "Well,
don't worry, all is not lost,
899
00:46:59,252 --> 00:47:01,788
the Republicans won
60 seats in the Assembly."
900
00:47:01,922 --> 00:47:03,256
I said to myself
901
00:47:03,389 --> 00:47:05,067
and I said audibly to
the people I was with,
902
00:47:05,091 --> 00:47:06,893
"Well, that can't be right,
903
00:47:07,093 --> 00:47:09,195
there's a mistake
here somewhere."
904
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,465
And it was at that
point I began to realize
905
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,168
that things had changed.
906
00:47:15,335 --> 00:47:17,704
You have several states in 2012
907
00:47:17,971 --> 00:47:19,139
where Democratic candidates
908
00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:21,007
actually won more
votes statewide
909
00:47:21,141 --> 00:47:23,610
than Republicans did,
but Republicans would win
910
00:47:23,744 --> 00:47:24,745
lopsided majorities.
911
00:47:25,646 --> 00:47:28,549
You had Pennsylvania where
Democrats won more votes
912
00:47:28,815 --> 00:47:30,050
and Republicans walked away
913
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:31,570
with a thirteen
to five advantage.
914
00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:35,088
Michigan where
Democrats won more votes
915
00:47:35,221 --> 00:47:37,524
and Republicans had a
nine to five advantage.
916
00:47:39,459 --> 00:47:40,861
North Carolina.
917
00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:43,463
Wisconsin.
918
00:47:45,498 --> 00:47:47,338
All of these states at
either the congressional
919
00:47:47,467 --> 00:47:50,737
or legislative level saw
Democratic candidates
920
00:47:50,871 --> 00:47:52,873
win more votes
statewide but Republicans
921
00:47:53,006 --> 00:47:54,407
win a majority of seats.
922
00:47:56,276 --> 00:47:58,078
Republicans could not be beaten
923
00:47:58,378 --> 00:47:59,813
and they were not beaten.
924
00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:03,517
Even when their side
got many fewer votes.
925
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,385
And what you immediately see
926
00:48:05,552 --> 00:48:07,187
in all of these
gerrymandered states
927
00:48:07,353 --> 00:48:11,124
is the rapid movement of
a very conservative agenda
928
00:48:11,257 --> 00:48:12,626
through state legislatures.
929
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,462
A new bill being
considered in Wisconsin
930
00:48:16,597 --> 00:48:18,298
would allow local
school districts
931
00:48:18,431 --> 00:48:19,766
to make sex education
932
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,735
and teaching
contraception optional.
933
00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:24,104
Republicans here
called a special session
934
00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:26,540
to pass House Bill 2,
more commonly known
935
00:48:26,707 --> 00:48:28,074
as the "Bathroom Bill".
936
00:48:28,208 --> 00:48:30,944
A recent move by the
legislature removes one route
937
00:48:31,077 --> 00:48:32,813
to recourse in wage disputes.
938
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,149
It started the moment
the General Assembly
939
00:48:36,282 --> 00:48:37,450
went into session.
940
00:48:37,618 --> 00:48:39,252
We're on the 10th
order of business,
941
00:48:39,385 --> 00:48:42,055
second reading of
amendments and senate bill.
942
00:48:42,188 --> 00:48:44,057
A legislative
blitzkrieg would be
943
00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:46,059
the way I would describe it.
944
00:48:47,761 --> 00:48:49,095
There was anti‐regulation,
945
00:48:49,229 --> 00:48:50,631
anti‐environment.
946
00:48:50,864 --> 00:48:52,332
The clerk will close the role,
947
00:48:52,465 --> 00:48:53,900
Assembly Amendment 3 is adopted.
948
00:48:54,234 --> 00:48:55,736
Defund public schools.
949
00:48:55,869 --> 00:48:58,672
Destabling and going
after Planned Parenthood.
950
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,282
Concealed carry
was another issue
951
00:49:00,306 --> 00:49:01,975
that they fought
for a long time.
952
00:49:02,108 --> 00:49:03,385
Democratic
governor would veto it,
953
00:49:03,409 --> 00:49:04,687
they were able to
put that through.
954
00:49:04,711 --> 00:49:06,212
Another gun rights bill
955
00:49:06,346 --> 00:49:07,781
is on the table
to protect drivers
956
00:49:07,914 --> 00:49:10,016
who carry their firearms
inside their vehicles
957
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:11,384
and go to work.
958
00:49:11,952 --> 00:49:13,119
If you wonder,
959
00:49:13,554 --> 00:49:16,590
"Why do we see representatives
that are doing things
960
00:49:16,723 --> 00:49:18,659
that their constituents
don't want?"
961
00:49:18,925 --> 00:49:22,328
"Why are laws being passed
that don't seem to reflect
962
00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:23,864
the wishes of the public?"
963
00:49:24,297 --> 00:49:26,967
Gerrymandering is a big
part of the explanation.
964
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,836
One legislator stood
on the floor and said,
965
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:31,237
"We are now in power,
966
00:49:31,371 --> 00:49:33,139
and we're going to
exercise that power,
967
00:49:33,273 --> 00:49:35,475
and you all can sit
back and forget about it."
968
00:49:35,609 --> 00:49:39,412
Bring back, bring back,
969
00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:42,649
oh, bring back Wisconsin to me.
970
00:49:43,449 --> 00:49:44,818
People began wondering,
971
00:49:44,951 --> 00:49:46,987
"Where are all of these
laws coming from?"
972
00:49:47,621 --> 00:49:51,491
The fact that Wisconsin,
Michigan, North Carolina,
973
00:49:51,625 --> 00:49:54,460
Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania,
they're all passing
974
00:49:54,595 --> 00:49:57,130
virtually identical
pieces of legislation,
975
00:49:57,263 --> 00:50:00,000
that's not a coincidence,
someone is behind this.
976
00:50:06,873 --> 00:50:08,274
ALEC stands for
977
00:50:08,408 --> 00:50:10,310
the American Legislative
Exchange Council
978
00:50:10,443 --> 00:50:14,414
and the goal of ALEC
is to push out policies
979
00:50:14,548 --> 00:50:17,450
to maximize corporate
profits at the state level.
980
00:50:17,851 --> 00:50:22,455
This has been a goal
of the right for decades.
981
00:50:24,558 --> 00:50:27,360
This is a shadow arm
of the Republican party.
982
00:50:28,662 --> 00:50:31,598
You have corporations
literally writing bills
983
00:50:31,732 --> 00:50:33,499
in conjunction with
state legislators
984
00:50:33,634 --> 00:50:34,968
and then state legislators
985
00:50:35,101 --> 00:50:37,137
introducing those
bills to become law.
986
00:50:52,318 --> 00:50:55,121
How many of our
Christians have what I call
987
00:50:55,255 --> 00:50:56,923
the goo‐goo syndrome?
988
00:50:57,423 --> 00:51:01,361
Good government, they
want everybody to vote.
989
00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:03,930
I don't want everybody to vote.
990
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:07,100
Elections are not won
by a majority of people,
991
00:51:07,233 --> 00:51:08,334
they never have been
992
00:51:08,468 --> 00:51:09,512
from the beginning
of our country,
993
00:51:09,536 --> 00:51:10,937
and they are not now.
994
00:51:11,104 --> 00:51:13,173
As a matter of fact, our
leverage in the elections
995
00:51:13,306 --> 00:51:14,474
quite candidly goes up
996
00:51:14,641 --> 00:51:16,510
as the voting
populace goes down.
997
00:51:16,677 --> 00:51:18,645
A developing story, a
voter ID bill in Wisconsin
998
00:51:18,779 --> 00:51:20,614
is moving on to
the full assembly.
999
00:51:20,747 --> 00:51:22,783
The measure would
require voters to show
1000
00:51:22,916 --> 00:51:24,450
their ID's at the polls.
1001
00:51:25,185 --> 00:51:28,622
I first became aware of
ALEC after the 2010 election
1002
00:51:28,755 --> 00:51:31,658
when we began to see all
of these new voter ID laws.
1003
00:51:31,792 --> 00:51:34,194
And it was clear that
these voter ID laws
1004
00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:37,230
had been written by ALEC
after the 2008 election,
1005
00:51:37,363 --> 00:51:39,766
because we saw the
model bill, we saw the bill
1006
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,267
that had ALEC's name on it.
1007
00:51:41,535 --> 00:51:43,570
Republicans say their intent
1008
00:51:43,704 --> 00:51:45,371
is to eliminate voter fraud
1009
00:51:45,572 --> 00:51:47,974
by requiring a
photo ID from anyone
1010
00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:49,342
who votes in Wisconsin.
1011
00:51:49,576 --> 00:51:51,678
They have advanced
these model bills
1012
00:51:51,812 --> 00:51:53,046
on voter identification
1013
00:51:53,179 --> 00:51:57,350
by creating this
lie that somehow
1014
00:51:57,483 --> 00:51:59,352
people are impersonating
people at the polls.
1015
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,454
Republicans say
this will cut down
1016
00:52:01,588 --> 00:52:03,790
on documented
election fraud in the state.
1017
00:52:04,591 --> 00:52:06,593
It's only when you
begin to understand
1018
00:52:06,793 --> 00:52:10,030
that in fact voter fraud is
an incredibly small problem
1019
00:52:10,163 --> 00:52:11,397
in American elections.
1020
00:52:11,632 --> 00:52:13,409
Then you begin to realize
that all of these laws
1021
00:52:13,433 --> 00:52:15,368
were passed for an
entirely different reason.
1022
00:52:15,501 --> 00:52:17,270
It had nothing to
do with voter fraud,
1023
00:52:17,403 --> 00:52:19,139
it was all about
trying to prevent
1024
00:52:19,272 --> 00:52:20,507
Democratic‐leaning voters
1025
00:52:20,641 --> 00:52:22,408
from being able
to cast a ballot.
1026
00:52:24,310 --> 00:52:27,113
Instead of trying to reach
out to minority voters,
1027
00:52:27,247 --> 00:52:30,116
they said, "No, now that we've
gerrymandered the districts,
1028
00:52:30,316 --> 00:52:31,484
we're going to go after
1029
00:52:31,618 --> 00:52:32,938
and suppress
those voting rights."
1030
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,688
Those bills would
have never been passed
1031
00:52:34,921 --> 00:52:37,357
but for the gerrymandering
that took place.
1032
00:52:46,299 --> 00:52:48,468
In the '90s, North
Carolina was actually
1033
00:52:48,602 --> 00:52:51,204
really progressive when
it came to voting rights.
1034
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,777
I'm a North Carolinian
and lots of my family
1035
00:52:57,077 --> 00:53:00,981
were the people that
gained the ability to vote.
1036
00:53:01,882 --> 00:53:04,317
They liked being able to
register at license offices,
1037
00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:06,186
they liked early voting.
1038
00:53:06,887 --> 00:53:09,055
They loved what's known
as Souls to the Polls,
1039
00:53:09,455 --> 00:53:11,424
which is early voting on Sunday.
1040
00:53:12,793 --> 00:53:15,228
I've talked to people
who had that sense of joy,
1041
00:53:15,361 --> 00:53:17,039
who've had, for the
first time in their lives,
1042
00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:18,064
a sense of belongingness.
1043
00:53:18,865 --> 00:53:22,603
The process opened up,
more people were voting,
1044
00:53:22,969 --> 00:53:24,370
and percentagewise,
1045
00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:26,239
African American
registration levels
1046
00:53:26,372 --> 00:53:28,474
became more at
parity with whites.
1047
00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:31,377
And we turn to a
strict new voter ID law
1048
00:53:31,512 --> 00:53:32,913
in North Carolina,
1049
00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:35,849
which is putting a spotlight
on the broader national fight
1050
00:53:35,982 --> 00:53:39,185
over when and where
people can cast ballots.
1051
00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,755
What the new North
Carolina voting law did
1052
00:53:41,888 --> 00:53:44,357
was it rolled back
almost every single one
1053
00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:46,760
of those new provisions
that had been created
1054
00:53:47,027 --> 00:53:48,762
to add more black
people to the electorate.
1055
00:53:48,929 --> 00:53:51,131
It didn't just include
strict voter ID,
1056
00:53:51,264 --> 00:53:52,566
but it cut early voting,
1057
00:53:52,699 --> 00:53:54,367
it eliminated same‐day
voter registration,
1058
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:55,940
it eliminated
out‐of‐precinct voting,
1059
00:53:56,102 --> 00:53:58,672
it even eliminated
Citizens Awareness Month
1060
00:53:58,805 --> 00:54:00,406
which the state
of North Carolina
1061
00:54:00,674 --> 00:54:03,777
ran to encourage
people to register to vote.
1062
00:54:04,545 --> 00:54:05,912
It was all about
1063
00:54:06,046 --> 00:54:07,981
suppressing African
American vote
1064
00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:10,651
in order to give Republicans
an extra one to three percent
1065
00:54:10,784 --> 00:54:12,519
which is the margin of victory
1066
00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:14,621
in all of our competitive races.
1067
00:54:14,855 --> 00:54:16,557
So even though
gerrymandering has reduced
1068
00:54:16,690 --> 00:54:19,325
the number of competitive
races to only about 10 percent,
1069
00:54:19,459 --> 00:54:21,828
they wanted to
reduce it even more.
1070
00:54:22,028 --> 00:54:26,867
Ain't going to let no
extremists turn me around,
1071
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:31,071
turn me around, turn me around.
1072
00:54:31,237 --> 00:54:33,439
I've interviewed
people who say now
1073
00:54:33,607 --> 00:54:35,408
they have lost their pride,
1074
00:54:35,542 --> 00:54:36,982
they've lost that
sense of belonging.
1075
00:54:37,077 --> 00:54:40,246
And that's a lot deeper
than just the nuts and bolts
1076
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:41,682
of a partisan advantage.
1077
00:54:45,018 --> 00:54:47,320
There was a client
that I represented,
1078
00:54:47,521 --> 00:54:48,922
she was born at
home with a midwife,
1079
00:54:49,055 --> 00:54:51,095
didn't have a birth
certificate, couldn't get an ID.
1080
00:54:51,457 --> 00:54:55,228
She went to vote in person
and she was turned away.
1081
00:54:55,929 --> 00:54:59,132
It's humiliating when you
go and say, "I'm a citizen,
1082
00:54:59,265 --> 00:55:01,110
I have the right to vote,
I would like to vote,"
1083
00:55:01,134 --> 00:55:02,736
and everyone else
around you is voting,
1084
00:55:02,869 --> 00:55:04,971
and they turn you away
and say, "No you can't vote."
1085
00:55:05,105 --> 00:55:06,306
It is humiliating.
1086
00:55:14,748 --> 00:55:16,583
Republicans see
their time running out
1087
00:55:16,717 --> 00:55:18,519
when it comes to
the demographics.
1088
00:55:18,819 --> 00:55:21,087
They see that the country
is getting less white,
1089
00:55:21,221 --> 00:55:25,058
more educated, and
overall just more diverse.
1090
00:55:25,959 --> 00:55:27,561
What they have come up with
1091
00:55:28,028 --> 00:55:31,064
is a plan to try
and stem that tide.
1092
00:55:31,798 --> 00:55:35,969
It starts with gerrymandering,
it starts with drawing lines
1093
00:55:36,136 --> 00:55:39,606
that give them the ability
to win all of these districts.
1094
00:55:41,074 --> 00:55:44,611
The second part of this process
is voter suppression tactics
1095
00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:47,180
designed to make it
harder for Democrats
1096
00:55:47,313 --> 00:55:51,051
and minorities to
exercise the right to vote.
1097
00:55:52,686 --> 00:55:55,488
It's not a bunch
of disparate parts,
1098
00:55:55,689 --> 00:55:58,291
it's not like one voter
suppression law here,
1099
00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,336
one gerrymandering law
here, this is part of a concerted
1100
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,963
this is part of a
concerted national strategy
1101
00:56:03,096 --> 00:56:04,397
by the Republican party
1102
00:56:04,531 --> 00:56:07,367
that's being undertaken
all across the country
1103
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,537
including in so many
important swing states.
1104
00:56:26,653 --> 00:56:29,189
We battled to get
voter ID on the ballot
1105
00:56:29,322 --> 00:56:31,391
for the November '16 election.
1106
00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:35,061
How many of your listeners
really honestly are sure
1107
00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,998
that President Trump
was going to win Wisconsin
1108
00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:39,700
if we didn't have voter ID
1109
00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:43,604
to keep Wisconsin's
elections clean and honest?
1110
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:48,241
I absolutely think
you can draw a line
1111
00:56:48,408 --> 00:56:50,343
line between he voter
suppression efforts
1112
00:56:50,476 --> 00:56:53,113
and the gerrymandering
efforts and election results.
1113
00:56:54,715 --> 00:56:55,849
We are seeing efforts
1114
00:56:55,982 --> 00:56:58,018
to undermine the
very core values
1115
00:56:58,184 --> 00:56:59,553
of American democracy.
1116
00:56:59,753 --> 00:57:02,122
Nothing is more
fundamental in America
1117
00:57:02,255 --> 00:57:03,757
than having the right to vote,
1118
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:05,792
and having the right
to representation,
1119
00:57:06,059 --> 00:57:08,695
and those two core values
have been undermined
1120
00:57:08,829 --> 00:57:10,931
by this new assault
on democracy.
1121
00:57:23,443 --> 00:57:25,679
‐ Hello. ‐ Hello,
great to see you.
1122
00:57:25,812 --> 00:57:27,948
You too, how are you?
1123
00:57:28,381 --> 00:57:29,482
It looks good, right?
1124
00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:30,851
Hi, Bill.
1125
00:57:31,618 --> 00:57:33,253
Good to see you, how are you?
1126
00:57:33,386 --> 00:57:34,387
‐ Hello. ‐ Hi!
1127
00:57:34,521 --> 00:57:35,656
Congratulations,
1128
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,090
I've been watching
your campaign.
1129
00:57:37,357 --> 00:57:38,668
‐ Thank you. ‐
That's very exciting.
1130
00:57:38,692 --> 00:57:40,761
Hey, Mary Lynne,
good to see you.
1131
00:57:49,269 --> 00:57:50,571
I just want to be sure
1132
00:57:50,704 --> 00:57:53,006
that everybody gets
to know Don Winter,
1133
00:57:53,139 --> 00:57:55,676
who hasn't been to one
of these meetings before.
1134
00:57:55,809 --> 00:57:57,219
These are all your
fellow planners, Don.
1135
00:57:57,243 --> 00:58:01,047
Emily Bunting, Janet
Mitchell, that's a lawyer.
1136
00:58:04,718 --> 00:58:06,787
Well one question I had,
too, about this election,
1137
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,321
about the Supreme
Court election‐‐
1138
00:58:08,454 --> 00:58:11,057
I've never met an epidemiologist
that didn't get nailed!
1139
00:58:11,191 --> 00:58:12,325
Hello.
1140
00:58:12,458 --> 00:58:14,060
Hey, how are you?
Good to see you.
1141
00:58:15,596 --> 00:58:18,532
That's Ruth, that's
Nick, Annabelle,
1142
00:58:18,665 --> 00:58:21,267
you know the names,
I'm sure. Peter Earle.
1143
00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:27,974
We did meet through our
involvement in this field.
1144
00:58:28,208 --> 00:58:31,712
Our relationship has
sort of fueled the lawsuit,
1145
00:58:31,845 --> 00:58:33,365
but then at the same
time, the lawsuit,
1146
00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:37,684
it's sort of a mutually
reinforcing circle.
1147
00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:39,920
Maybe coming from
abroad, I have less
1148
00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:41,688
of a sense of the status quo.
1149
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,958
So when I see something,
like the fact that legislators
1150
00:58:45,091 --> 00:58:46,993
are allowed to draw
their own district lines,
1151
00:58:47,193 --> 00:58:49,429
I'm more easily able
to say, "Well why?"
1152
00:58:49,563 --> 00:58:50,843
Like that doesn't
make any sense.
1153
00:58:50,964 --> 00:58:52,733
Can we sit out there
so we can look at maps?
1154
00:58:52,866 --> 00:58:54,635
I brought all the
maps on the wall.
1155
00:58:54,901 --> 00:58:57,437
I thought it might be
useful to hear from all of you
1156
00:58:57,571 --> 00:58:58,939
about your districts
1157
00:58:59,205 --> 00:59:01,383
to understand what's wrong
with your districts as they are.
1158
00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:03,276
So, maybe would all
of you feel comfortable,
1159
00:59:03,409 --> 00:59:05,612
we have the map at the moment,
you're welcome to come up
1160
00:59:05,746 --> 00:59:07,147
point and tell me what you like,
1161
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,091
and what you don't like,
and what you would prefer.
1162
00:59:09,115 --> 00:59:11,852
We were taken
out of our district
1163
00:59:11,985 --> 00:59:16,623
and attached to a
strongly Republican district.
1164
00:59:16,857 --> 00:59:20,093
I really feel that
our vote is a wash.
1165
00:59:20,393 --> 00:59:23,530
No matter what I do or
what we do as Democrats,
1166
00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,032
we can't get a
representative elected.
1167
00:59:26,366 --> 00:59:29,570
We're sort of in exile
down in Grant County
1168
00:59:29,703 --> 00:59:33,540
and I have these two
secure Republicans
1169
00:59:33,674 --> 00:59:38,244
who do not bother with me.
1170
00:59:38,478 --> 00:59:40,180
This is the district
now, and you can look,
1171
00:59:40,313 --> 00:59:42,048
like it goes up
here a little bit.
1172
00:59:42,182 --> 00:59:45,018
You can look at how crazy it
is with all these different lines,
1173
00:59:45,151 --> 00:59:46,920
but what's interesting,
you'll notice,
1174
00:59:47,053 --> 00:59:49,523
here's the city of Portage,
it goes around the city lines,
1175
00:59:49,656 --> 00:59:50,824
the city of Portage.
1176
00:59:50,957 --> 00:59:52,492
That's a Democratic‐‐
Excludes it.
1177
00:59:52,626 --> 00:59:54,127
It goes right around
the city limits.
1178
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,863
Here is the city of Compass,
this is a Democratic city,
1179
00:59:56,997 --> 00:59:59,099
it goes right
around the city lines
1180
00:59:59,232 --> 01:00:00,232
and keeps it out.
1181
01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:03,036
So they took the four
largest municipalities
1182
01:00:03,169 --> 01:00:05,305
and went right
around the city lines.
1183
01:00:05,438 --> 01:00:08,308
It's a very good example
of gerrymandering.
1184
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:11,512
The Whitford plaintiffs realized
1185
01:00:11,645 --> 01:00:13,914
there was no legislative
fix to gerrymandering.
1186
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,851
Democrats were never going
to be able to win enough seats
1187
01:00:18,018 --> 01:00:20,921
under the gerrymandered
maps to have any sort of impact,
1188
01:00:21,054 --> 01:00:23,256
so they had to attack
this in the courts,
1189
01:00:23,389 --> 01:00:25,726
and they had to attack
it in an innovative way.
1190
01:00:25,892 --> 01:00:27,594
If you are on the
side that you say
1191
01:00:27,728 --> 01:00:30,163
gerrymandering
isn't unconstitutional...
1192
01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:33,299
But no federal court
had ever outlawed
1193
01:00:33,433 --> 01:00:35,702
partisan gerrymandering before.
1194
01:00:36,537 --> 01:00:37,804
And to succeed,
1195
01:00:37,938 --> 01:00:39,305
the Whitford
plaintiffs had to show
1196
01:00:39,439 --> 01:00:41,808
that Republicans
deliberately intended
1197
01:00:41,975 --> 01:00:44,645
to deprive Democrats
of representation.
1198
01:00:49,049 --> 01:00:50,483
We're trying to figure out,
1199
01:00:50,617 --> 01:00:52,853
how are we going to get
a case before the court
1200
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,989
that could once and for
all resolve this problem?
1201
01:00:56,623 --> 01:00:58,058
And we saw an avenue here.
1202
01:00:59,259 --> 01:01:01,762
We immediately
demanded that Republicans
1203
01:01:01,895 --> 01:01:03,597
in The Wisconsin
state legislature
1204
01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:07,333
give us all of the documents
from the secret mapping room
1205
01:01:07,568 --> 01:01:09,836
related to the
redistricting process.
1206
01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,173
All the emails, all the
iterations of the maps,
1207
01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:16,442
and they responded to
us that, "No, you don't get
1208
01:01:16,577 --> 01:01:19,412
this information. This
information is privileged."
1209
01:01:20,581 --> 01:01:23,383
The court said, "No, you have
to give them these documents.
1210
01:01:23,517 --> 01:01:25,237
You're required to
produce this information,
1211
01:01:25,318 --> 01:01:27,358
this is not something you
can hide from the public."
1212
01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:35,328
We knew that they weren't being
1213
01:01:35,495 --> 01:01:37,731
completely forthcoming
in all of the information
1214
01:01:37,864 --> 01:01:38,904
they were providing to us.
1215
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,435
There were some
spreadsheets that were created
1216
01:01:42,603 --> 01:01:43,737
by the mapmakers,
1217
01:01:44,004 --> 01:01:46,339
but we noticed that
for some reason,
1218
01:01:46,472 --> 01:01:50,343
we didn't have any
spreadsheets in April, or in May,
1219
01:01:50,544 --> 01:01:53,346
or I think June, also, of 2011.
1220
01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:57,483
And so we hired a
computer forensic expert
1221
01:01:57,618 --> 01:01:59,452
to look through the
hard drives to see
1222
01:01:59,586 --> 01:02:02,055
if he could come up
with any spreadsheets
1223
01:02:02,188 --> 01:02:05,091
from that time frame
where they were missing.
1224
01:02:07,628 --> 01:02:09,462
The first thing that struck me
1225
01:02:09,596 --> 01:02:12,365
is one of the
external hard drives
1226
01:02:12,498 --> 01:02:17,804
had screws on the bottom
that had a number of scratches.
1227
01:02:18,471 --> 01:02:20,006
This lead me to believe
1228
01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:24,444
that someone had disassembled
this external hard drive.
1229
01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:32,553
I also determined that a piece
of commercial wiping software
1230
01:02:32,686 --> 01:02:36,122
had been downloaded
and executed.
1231
01:02:36,256 --> 01:02:38,725
And in one hard
drive we identified
1232
01:02:38,859 --> 01:02:41,995
almost one million
deleted files.
1233
01:02:43,229 --> 01:02:47,033
Someone did not want
us to see what had been
1234
01:02:47,167 --> 01:02:48,869
on those hard drives.
1235
01:02:52,472 --> 01:02:55,542
Mark was able to recover
dozens of spreadsheets.
1236
01:02:56,643 --> 01:02:58,845
And these spreadsheets
turned out to be
1237
01:02:58,979 --> 01:03:00,389
what we would see as
smoking gun evidence
1238
01:03:00,413 --> 01:03:01,413
in the case.
1239
01:03:03,550 --> 01:03:05,719
The spreadsheets told a story
1240
01:03:06,286 --> 01:03:10,156
about how these
maps were being drawn,
1241
01:03:11,324 --> 01:03:14,728
and how these were
different scenarios
1242
01:03:14,861 --> 01:03:16,496
that were being played out.
1243
01:03:16,997 --> 01:03:19,533
It was as though
they were testing.
1244
01:03:21,635 --> 01:03:23,570
You look at each
successive spreadsheet
1245
01:03:23,704 --> 01:03:26,106
and you can see the maps
getting more and more biased.
1246
01:03:26,372 --> 01:03:29,342
They started at 49
seats at their basic map,
1247
01:03:29,475 --> 01:03:32,579
then go up to 52 seats,
and 55 seats, then 57 seats,
1248
01:03:32,713 --> 01:03:34,581
and 58 seats, and 59 seats.
1249
01:03:36,216 --> 01:03:37,816
What they were doing
was they're reducing
1250
01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:39,319
the number of competitive seats.
1251
01:03:40,521 --> 01:03:43,690
They got pretty quickly
to 59 seats for themselves.
1252
01:03:43,824 --> 01:03:45,626
I think there were
four or five iterations
1253
01:03:45,759 --> 01:03:47,360
of the map at 59.
1254
01:03:47,861 --> 01:03:49,739
Then they take the 59‐seat
map and they continue
1255
01:03:49,763 --> 01:03:51,164
and they continue to tweak it
1256
01:03:51,632 --> 01:03:53,499
subjecting it to
this analysis to say,
1257
01:03:53,634 --> 01:03:55,435
well what if the
Democrats do really well?
1258
01:03:55,602 --> 01:03:58,905
What if our candidates lose
the argument with the voters?
1259
01:04:00,206 --> 01:04:01,708
On that final map,
1260
01:04:01,875 --> 01:04:04,545
even under the scenario
of the Democrats winning
1261
01:04:04,678 --> 01:04:07,614
the vote by the biggest
margin they've ever won
1262
01:04:07,748 --> 01:04:09,049
in modern Wisconsin history,
1263
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:11,852
the Republicans would
still get 59 seats minimum
1264
01:04:11,985 --> 01:04:13,086
in the state assembly.
1265
01:04:13,587 --> 01:04:16,990
That's an astonishing
manipulation of democracy.
1266
01:04:17,157 --> 01:04:18,517
I mean think about
it for a second.
1267
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,227
I mean, people elect
their representative
1268
01:04:21,361 --> 01:04:23,429
and representatives are
accountable to the people
1269
01:04:23,564 --> 01:04:24,564
who elect them.
1270
01:04:24,798 --> 01:04:26,900
And, um... But if you do this,
1271
01:04:27,634 --> 01:04:30,203
if you were able to
gerrymander effectively,
1272
01:04:30,336 --> 01:04:33,740
and egregiously, and durably
for an entire 10‐year period,
1273
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:35,141
there's no accountability.
1274
01:04:35,308 --> 01:04:37,511
They can do whatever
the hell they want
1275
01:04:37,644 --> 01:04:40,380
and that is what they have
been doing in Wisconsin.
1276
01:04:40,647 --> 01:04:41,648
Good morning.
1277
01:04:42,182 --> 01:04:45,552
I'm Peter Earle and
I'm the lead trial lawyer
1278
01:04:45,986 --> 01:04:48,154
in this lawsuit
which we filed today.
1279
01:04:57,130 --> 01:04:59,232
When one party gains control
1280
01:04:59,365 --> 01:05:02,736
of all the levers of government
and then stacks the deck
1281
01:05:02,869 --> 01:05:04,571
in their favor to keep control
1282
01:05:04,705 --> 01:05:06,472
regardless of the
will of the people,
1283
01:05:06,607 --> 01:05:10,310
the very heart and soul of
our democracy is weakened.
1284
01:05:10,677 --> 01:05:14,080
There had never been a
successful opinion of any sort
1285
01:05:14,214 --> 01:05:15,516
in this kind of a case.
1286
01:05:16,517 --> 01:05:19,753
I'm always a pessimist
when it comes to litigation.
1287
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,956
I thought that our
odds of winning a trial
1288
01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:24,925
were less than 50 percent.
1289
01:05:25,058 --> 01:05:26,259
Federal Court rules today
1290
01:05:26,392 --> 01:05:28,028
that Wisconsin
state voting districts
1291
01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:30,731
drawn up by Republicans
are unconstitutional.
1292
01:05:30,864 --> 01:05:33,466
I remember when it came
out, immediately, I called Nick.
1293
01:05:33,734 --> 01:05:37,003
She just yelled out, you
know, "We won, we won."
1294
01:05:37,170 --> 01:05:38,581
I was like, "You have
to come right now,
1295
01:05:38,605 --> 01:05:40,106
I'm going to buy champagne."
1296
01:05:41,642 --> 01:05:45,679
We were absolutely
delighted to actually see
1297
01:05:45,846 --> 01:05:47,247
a verdict in your favor,
1298
01:05:47,380 --> 01:05:48,982
you know, for the
first time in 30 years.
1299
01:05:49,149 --> 01:05:50,283
It was awesome.
1300
01:06:01,494 --> 01:06:03,294
This is the single
biggest case for the future
1301
01:06:03,363 --> 01:06:05,231
of our democracy
since Citizens United.
1302
01:06:05,398 --> 01:06:09,235
This may be the last time
we have an opportunity
1303
01:06:09,369 --> 01:06:11,905
to do something about
partisan gerrymandering.
1304
01:06:12,205 --> 01:06:14,407
If they lose, it's
no holds barred.
1305
01:06:32,626 --> 01:06:34,728
We'd like to thank
you all for joining us
1306
01:06:34,861 --> 01:06:37,163
from near and far,
crossing the country,
1307
01:06:37,297 --> 01:06:41,501
and crossing partisan
lines to focus on solutions.
1308
01:06:44,505 --> 01:06:47,440
We're here at the Unrig
the System Summit
1309
01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:50,176
and we are mostly just
building connections.
1310
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:51,950
That guy you were
talking to said he would
1311
01:06:52,045 --> 01:06:53,614
introduce us to that funder.
1312
01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:55,415
We're all volunteers
1313
01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:57,117
and we've never
done this before,
1314
01:06:57,250 --> 01:06:58,595
so we have a lot to
learn from people.
1315
01:06:58,619 --> 01:06:59,920
‐ Hey, Anna. ‐ Nice to meet you.
1316
01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:01,263
What organization are you with?
1317
01:07:01,287 --> 01:07:02,527
What's been really fun about it
1318
01:07:02,656 --> 01:07:04,257
is that everybody
knows about us already.
1319
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:05,892
We're kind of famous.
1320
01:07:06,026 --> 01:07:07,561
I'm trying to be
modest about that.
1321
01:07:07,694 --> 01:07:08,995
‐ Congratulations. ‐ Thank you.
1322
01:07:09,129 --> 01:07:10,363
Thank you.
1323
01:07:10,496 --> 01:07:11,932
‐ On the app or... ‐ I'm a fan.
1324
01:07:12,065 --> 01:07:13,199
Oh, great.
1325
01:07:13,366 --> 01:07:14,476
I'm the director in Wisconsin.
1326
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:15,545
Oh, awesome. Can we connect?
1327
01:07:15,569 --> 01:07:17,003
Can we first take a selfie?
1328
01:07:17,170 --> 01:07:18,648
Yes, please, please,
that would be great.
1329
01:07:18,672 --> 01:07:20,874
Such amazing stuff
just in being all volunteer,
1330
01:07:21,007 --> 01:07:23,176
and engaging people,
it's really been amazing.
1331
01:07:23,309 --> 01:07:24,578
He is my lawyer.
1332
01:07:30,717 --> 01:07:32,352
I wish.
1333
01:07:33,019 --> 01:07:34,220
So, you got my text?
1334
01:07:34,387 --> 01:07:35,789
What was your text?
1335
01:07:35,922 --> 01:07:37,734
It's before you speak,
Heather and I want to talk
1336
01:07:37,758 --> 01:07:40,360
to you about how to find a
way to get a money pitch in.
1337
01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:41,928
If you talk about
where we're at.
1338
01:07:42,062 --> 01:07:43,396
‐ Just, I mean... ‐ Mm‐hmm.
1339
01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:45,374
That's how we're starting
is "Where are you at?"
1340
01:07:45,398 --> 01:07:47,467
Where we're at, quite
honestly where we're at
1341
01:07:47,601 --> 01:07:49,369
is we're waiting for the
Board of Canvassers,
1342
01:07:49,502 --> 01:07:51,037
but frankly we're raising money.
1343
01:07:51,171 --> 01:07:52,472
I'm Katie Fahey,
1344
01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:54,908
I'm with an organization
called Voters Not Politicians.
1345
01:07:55,041 --> 01:07:57,944
One of the things that
they're now having to figure out
1346
01:07:58,078 --> 01:08:00,547
is how do we go from being
1347
01:08:00,681 --> 01:08:03,216
a citizen signature
gathering effort
1348
01:08:03,416 --> 01:08:04,851
to a campaign?
1349
01:08:05,251 --> 01:08:07,187
And how do we start to talk to
1350
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,289
a much broader
universe of people,
1351
01:08:09,523 --> 01:08:11,925
some of whom will be
told by the opposition
1352
01:08:12,058 --> 01:08:13,459
that this is a power grab
1353
01:08:13,594 --> 01:08:15,328
and you should
never vote for it.
1354
01:08:19,099 --> 01:08:20,400
Yeah.
1355
01:08:24,905 --> 01:08:26,773
Fight, oh my god, we know.
1356
01:08:31,878 --> 01:08:33,179
What about
1357
01:08:33,446 --> 01:08:35,091
the Voters Not
Politicians ballot proposal?
1358
01:08:35,115 --> 01:08:36,859
If that gets on the ballot, do
you think it's going to pass,
1359
01:08:36,883 --> 01:08:38,885
and does that cause a
big problem for Republicans
1360
01:08:39,019 --> 01:08:40,019
going forward?
1361
01:08:40,086 --> 01:08:41,254
I don't think it will pass,
1362
01:08:41,387 --> 01:08:42,867
but also when you
talked in your intro
1363
01:08:42,923 --> 01:08:45,826
about, this is some 27‐year‐old
miraculously came up
1364
01:08:45,992 --> 01:08:48,394
and organization came
together, I don't believe it.
1365
01:08:48,529 --> 01:08:49,849
I believe when
you peel behind it,
1366
01:08:49,963 --> 01:08:52,032
you are going to see
that this has all been
1367
01:08:52,165 --> 01:08:53,333
constructed by Democrats.
1368
01:08:53,466 --> 01:08:54,906
‐ But you think
it will fail? ‐ I do.
1369
01:08:57,037 --> 01:09:01,007
The opposition is being
led by Robert LaBrant.
1370
01:09:01,842 --> 01:09:04,077
LaBrant gets his
start in politics working
1371
01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:05,445
for the Chamber of Commerce
1372
01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:09,482
and he is the maestro of
redistricting in Michigan.
1373
01:09:09,650 --> 01:09:11,918
As far as ballot
questions are concerned,
1374
01:09:12,052 --> 01:09:15,021
I've spent most of my
summer trying to work out
1375
01:09:15,188 --> 01:09:19,092
a legal strategy to get one of
the ballot question proposals
1376
01:09:19,225 --> 01:09:20,225
off the ballot.
1377
01:09:21,127 --> 01:09:24,097
LaBrant understood
before anybody else
1378
01:09:24,230 --> 01:09:28,168
just how crucial these
redistricting fights could be.
1379
01:09:28,301 --> 01:09:30,804
Every 10 years we do
redistricting in Michigan
1380
01:09:30,937 --> 01:09:33,640
and I've kind of made
that a kind of specialization.
1381
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,250
Democrats tend to
cluster in urban cities
1382
01:09:44,651 --> 01:09:48,254
and Republicans are kind
of more evenly spread out.
1383
01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:51,825
In drawing district
lines based upon
1384
01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,494
traditional
redistricting criteria,
1385
01:09:54,661 --> 01:09:57,330
Democrats have a
lot of wasted votes.
1386
01:09:57,898 --> 01:09:59,833
I don't think that's
a direct result
1387
01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:03,436
of Republican gerrymandering,
it's just a fact of life.
1388
01:10:08,642 --> 01:10:11,044
The real intent of LaBrant
1389
01:10:11,211 --> 01:10:13,346
and the other
Republicans in Michigan
1390
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:16,082
was revealed in
a series of emails
1391
01:10:16,249 --> 01:10:19,553
exchanged between them
during the redistricting process
1392
01:10:19,686 --> 01:10:20,987
in 2011.
1393
01:10:41,441 --> 01:10:43,777
The emails show that
they gerrymandered
1394
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:45,612
the state intentionally.
1395
01:11:05,131 --> 01:11:07,568
So, for everyone
who doesn't know,
1396
01:11:07,701 --> 01:11:10,103
we've gotten sued officially.
1397
01:11:10,336 --> 01:11:13,507
Um, they have filed a suit
with the court of appeals
1398
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,209
saying that our petition
touches too many parts
1399
01:11:16,342 --> 01:11:17,477
of the constitution,
1400
01:11:17,844 --> 01:11:20,246
and so it's a wholesale
revision and not something
1401
01:11:20,380 --> 01:11:24,484
that's appropriate
for a ballot initiative.
1402
01:11:24,818 --> 01:11:27,487
Any time you want to
change something in Michigan,
1403
01:11:27,754 --> 01:11:31,324
any time you want to
have a citizen‐led effort
1404
01:11:31,457 --> 01:11:33,927
to take back control
over what's happening
1405
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:35,195
in state government,
1406
01:11:35,328 --> 01:11:36,763
you better come
with a lot of money
1407
01:11:36,997 --> 01:11:39,800
because there's going to be a
lot of money on the opposition
1408
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,103
funding their lawyers
to challenge everything.
1409
01:11:44,104 --> 01:11:47,473
This move is another one
of those fundamental things
1410
01:11:47,608 --> 01:11:49,209
that's wrong with our democracy.
1411
01:11:49,342 --> 01:11:51,878
It's one of those things
where, like, it's not really right.
1412
01:11:52,012 --> 01:11:54,815
Like, we have the right
to petition our government,
1413
01:11:54,948 --> 01:11:56,983
and gather signatures,
and get it on the ballot,
1414
01:11:57,117 --> 01:12:00,153
and then they're trying to
do, like say that we can't.
1415
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:02,098
Although we knew we
were going to get sued,
1416
01:12:02,122 --> 01:12:03,924
it's not right that we are.
1417
01:12:11,164 --> 01:12:13,767
Hey, everybody, I
wanted to do an update.
1418
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,703
Normally I do this either
on a Facebook Live,
1419
01:12:16,837 --> 01:12:22,208
or with an interview group,
or a number of things.
1420
01:12:22,342 --> 01:12:27,514
You know, like an hour
ago I was feeling so good.
1421
01:12:27,648 --> 01:12:29,115
Point of pride that
I've always had
1422
01:12:29,249 --> 01:12:31,552
is that we've done
things the way that, like,
1423
01:12:31,685 --> 01:12:33,854
you hope that
they're done. Um...
1424
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:41,795
I think that with
this court case
1425
01:12:41,928 --> 01:12:46,499
it's made it feel
really real that...
1426
01:12:59,846 --> 01:13:04,084
there's a lot of power
out there that controls a lot
1427
01:13:04,217 --> 01:13:06,620
of things that you don't
get to be in control over,
1428
01:13:06,753 --> 01:13:08,513
that you can try and
work as hard as you can,
1429
01:13:08,589 --> 01:13:09,956
but, you know,
1430
01:13:10,090 --> 01:13:12,893
a misplaced comma or a
word can throw things out.
1431
01:13:13,026 --> 01:13:16,262
And it feels really
real right now,
1432
01:13:16,462 --> 01:13:22,536
the pressure feels
on, um, because...
1433
01:13:30,376 --> 01:13:32,412
what if something does happen?
1434
01:13:34,047 --> 01:13:37,584
What if it's not possible
for a group of people
1435
01:13:37,718 --> 01:13:39,820
to band together and...
1436
01:13:41,988 --> 01:13:44,057
try as hard as they can and...
1437
01:13:45,759 --> 01:13:47,928
what if it still doesn't matter?
1438
01:13:52,498 --> 01:13:54,535
I don't want to
disappoint anybody.
1439
01:14:10,917 --> 01:14:13,386
The U. S. Supreme
Court will now decide
1440
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,223
whether the maps that
determine who you vote for
1441
01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:18,659
are constitutional.
1442
01:14:18,892 --> 01:14:21,094
The case on partisan
gerrymandering
1443
01:14:21,261 --> 01:14:24,330
has the potential to
reshape American politics
1444
01:14:24,464 --> 01:14:25,699
as we know it.
1445
01:14:29,636 --> 01:14:30,737
Hey, Peter.
1446
01:14:31,171 --> 01:14:32,205
Hello.
1447
01:14:32,806 --> 01:14:34,708
‐ Welcome. ‐ Good
to see you guys.
1448
01:14:34,841 --> 01:14:36,142
Hey, welcome.
1449
01:14:36,276 --> 01:14:37,644
Okay, we'll get
the lawyers in now.
1450
01:14:37,778 --> 01:14:38,778
All right, lawyers.
1451
01:14:38,812 --> 01:14:39,613
With you, with you.
1452
01:14:39,746 --> 01:14:40,914
Stay, stay, stay.
1453
01:14:41,214 --> 01:14:42,749
One more, look serious,
1454
01:14:42,883 --> 01:14:44,323
like you're trying
to save democracy.
1455
01:14:45,752 --> 01:14:47,654
This is what
democracy looks like.
1456
01:14:53,093 --> 01:14:54,403
It's a little weird
to have so much
1457
01:14:54,427 --> 01:14:55,696
of the world focusing on this.
1458
01:14:55,896 --> 01:14:57,731
I got woken up at 6:30
with my dad calling me
1459
01:14:57,898 --> 01:15:00,667
saying that he saw Nick,
my co‐counsel and husband,
1460
01:15:00,801 --> 01:15:03,604
on Australian TV
talking about the case.
1461
01:15:05,105 --> 01:15:07,340
We've had a countdown on
our whiteboard in Chicago.
1462
01:15:07,473 --> 01:15:09,218
Somebody rang me and
was like, "Oh, don't you have
1463
01:15:09,242 --> 01:15:10,882
a case in the next,
you know, few months?"
1464
01:15:10,977 --> 01:15:14,114
I was like, "It's in five
days, now it's four days."
1465
01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:15,381
Yeah, we're nearly there.
1466
01:15:21,087 --> 01:15:22,422
Um, so how about this?
1467
01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:23,790
As this case illustrated,
1468
01:15:23,924 --> 01:15:25,659
it's now possible to
draw a district map
1469
01:15:25,792 --> 01:15:27,694
that is so extremely
and durably biased
1470
01:15:27,828 --> 01:15:30,296
that democracy itself is
gravely compromised?
1471
01:15:31,264 --> 01:15:33,534
Paul is the best possible person
1472
01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:34,935
in America to do this.
1473
01:15:35,401 --> 01:15:36,737
He is one of the country's
1474
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:39,172
best respected
Supreme Court specialists
1475
01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:41,775
who also has a
particular expertise
1476
01:15:41,908 --> 01:15:44,010
in election law
and redistricting.
1477
01:15:44,144 --> 01:15:45,712
You look at the first election,
1478
01:15:45,846 --> 01:15:46,947
you do sensitivity testing,
1479
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,615
what does the
sensitivity testing
1480
01:15:48,749 --> 01:15:49,783
have to show?
1481
01:15:49,916 --> 01:15:51,652
For the Plaintiff to win?
1482
01:15:51,785 --> 01:15:53,019
‐ Yes. ‐ Uh...
1483
01:15:53,153 --> 01:15:55,155
That over a plausible
range of outcomes...
1484
01:15:55,288 --> 01:15:57,066
I think everybody gets
nervous before they argue
1485
01:15:57,090 --> 01:15:58,692
in the Supreme Court.
1486
01:15:58,825 --> 01:16:01,427
The most important thing is
to be extremely well prepared
1487
01:16:02,028 --> 01:16:03,864
and know what you're
going to say first.
1488
01:16:03,997 --> 01:16:05,908
Because once you start
talking, it's usually okay.
1489
01:16:05,932 --> 01:16:07,910
What you want to do is
get to the green light point,
1490
01:16:07,934 --> 01:16:09,679
which is basically, "This
court therefore has a choice,
1491
01:16:09,703 --> 01:16:11,263
either use the standards
we've given you
1492
01:16:11,371 --> 01:16:14,074
to limit this abusive
practice, or give a green light
1493
01:16:14,207 --> 01:16:16,109
to the gerrymanderers
to have at it."
1494
01:16:17,277 --> 01:16:20,180
‐ I like have at it. ‐ I do too.
1495
01:16:25,586 --> 01:16:27,588
We got very close to
winning the Vieth case,
1496
01:16:27,721 --> 01:16:29,055
as it became known.
1497
01:16:29,322 --> 01:16:32,392
We got four votes to say that
the map was unconstitutional.
1498
01:16:32,693 --> 01:16:34,127
There were four votes to say
1499
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:35,896
that the issue is
a political question
1500
01:16:36,029 --> 01:16:37,549
that shouldn't be
in the courts at all.
1501
01:16:37,664 --> 01:16:39,533
That was the opinion
written by Justice Scalia.
1502
01:16:39,666 --> 01:16:40,666
The basic problem
1503
01:16:40,734 --> 01:16:42,202
is that some degree
1504
01:16:42,368 --> 01:16:44,288
of political motivation
and affect in districting
1505
01:16:44,404 --> 01:16:46,139
is not unconstitutional.
1506
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:47,908
And then there was
Justice Kennedy,
1507
01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:49,710
who was in the middle.
1508
01:16:56,082 --> 01:16:58,852
Kennedy is telling
the legal community
1509
01:16:58,985 --> 01:17:00,521
and the social
science community,
1510
01:17:00,654 --> 01:17:02,122
you know, "I'm interested.
1511
01:17:02,255 --> 01:17:06,860
I'm willing to tackle this
undemocratic practice,
1512
01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:11,364
but I need some assurance
that there's a reliable,
1513
01:17:11,497 --> 01:17:12,799
workable test."
1514
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,168
And so at the moment
1515
01:17:15,536 --> 01:17:17,971
fighting partisan
gerrymandering in the courts
1516
01:17:18,104 --> 01:17:19,973
means coming up with a standard
1517
01:17:20,106 --> 01:17:22,208
that would be persuasive
to Justice Kennedy.
1518
01:17:23,409 --> 01:17:25,712
We could not have
done more to answer
1519
01:17:25,846 --> 01:17:27,881
that call for a standard.
1520
01:17:28,014 --> 01:17:30,350
To say, "This is the
case, if there's any case
1521
01:17:30,617 --> 01:17:32,018
in which you have
to draw the line
1522
01:17:32,152 --> 01:17:34,054
and say it's
unconstitutional and wrong."
1523
01:17:38,859 --> 01:17:40,961
There are few times in your life
1524
01:17:41,094 --> 01:17:42,763
when you get to
particularly be my age,
1525
01:17:42,996 --> 01:17:44,364
you look back and you say,
1526
01:17:44,497 --> 01:17:46,466
you know, "There were
times when I could have made
1527
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,069
a difference and did
I step up to the plate
1528
01:17:49,202 --> 01:17:51,371
and do what I
really needed to do
1529
01:17:51,538 --> 01:17:52,939
and have the courage to do it?"
1530
01:17:53,073 --> 01:17:55,542
And the plaintiffs in this case
1531
01:17:55,809 --> 01:17:57,243
stood up for what
they believed in.
1532
01:17:57,477 --> 01:17:59,646
We are at a real crossroads
and I think the window
1533
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:02,583
is going to close on whether
or not we can really bring about
1534
01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:03,884
this reform
1535
01:18:04,017 --> 01:18:05,919
if we don't get it
done in this case.
1536
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:11,457
All eyes will be on the
U. S. Supreme Court
1537
01:18:11,592 --> 01:18:14,227
as it hears a Wisconsin
case challenging the way
1538
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,863
the state's legislative
districts are drawn.
1539
01:18:16,997 --> 01:18:18,464
The legal question is,
1540
01:18:18,599 --> 01:18:20,801
can we even measure
this? Should we get into it?
1541
01:18:20,967 --> 01:18:23,837
Is this a political question
that we should stay out of?
1542
01:18:24,270 --> 01:18:28,008
And can we define what's
extreme gerrymandering?
1543
01:18:28,208 --> 01:18:29,843
‐ Rise up! ‐ Fight back!
1544
01:18:29,976 --> 01:18:33,446
‐ Rise up! ‐ Fight back!
1545
01:18:33,580 --> 01:18:35,315
It's a fixed system.
1546
01:18:35,549 --> 01:18:37,618
It's a fixed system, that's
what gerrymandering
1547
01:18:37,751 --> 01:18:38,985
is all about.
1548
01:18:39,185 --> 01:18:41,421
Congress will never,
ever fix this problem
1549
01:18:41,688 --> 01:18:44,157
because they have one
interest and one interest only
1550
01:18:44,290 --> 01:18:46,059
and this is to stay in power.
1551
01:18:48,629 --> 01:18:51,031
Mr. Chief Justice and
may it please the court,
1552
01:18:51,397 --> 01:18:53,967
what the state is asking
for here is a free pass
1553
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,836
to continue using
an assembly map
1554
01:18:55,969 --> 01:18:57,303
that is so extreme
1555
01:18:57,503 --> 01:18:59,439
that it effectively
nullifies democracy.
1556
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,096
Hi, everyone, I'm Paul Smith,
1557
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:59,265
I argued the case this
morning for the plaintiffs
1558
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:00,399
from Wisconsin.
1559
01:20:00,734 --> 01:20:04,538
We hope that the court
will see its way clear to say
1560
01:20:04,671 --> 01:20:07,107
this is not only a
constitutional violation,
1561
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,610
it's a constitutional
violation for which there is
1562
01:20:09,743 --> 01:20:12,278
a meaningful judicial remedy.
1563
01:20:15,115 --> 01:20:16,715
One thing I don't do
is come out in front
1564
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:18,952
of a bunch of cameras
and predict Justice's votes,
1565
01:20:19,085 --> 01:20:21,755
but I do think he
understood our position
1566
01:20:21,888 --> 01:20:23,168
and that he seems
quite concerned
1567
01:20:23,256 --> 01:20:25,425
about where the
country is right now.
1568
01:20:25,759 --> 01:20:26,827
Thank you, everybody.
1569
01:20:27,393 --> 01:20:28,762
There were some great lines,
1570
01:20:28,895 --> 01:20:29,972
did you think of them yesterday?
1571
01:20:29,996 --> 01:20:31,197
Just real zingers.
1572
01:20:31,331 --> 01:20:33,066
Like the festival
of gerrymandering
1573
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,435
the likes of which
we have never seen.
1574
01:20:39,205 --> 01:20:41,207
Well you heard Justice
Sotomayor's comments,
1575
01:20:41,341 --> 01:20:43,910
you know, I mean you did
this, and then you did this,
1576
01:20:44,077 --> 01:20:45,717
and then you did
this to really ratchet up
1577
01:20:45,846 --> 01:20:47,080
the representation.
1578
01:20:47,213 --> 01:20:48,693
That was all based
on the spreadsheets
1579
01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:50,751
that you had recovered
for us on the hard drives.
1580
01:20:51,184 --> 01:20:54,020
I'm glad it worked out,
fingers crossed, we'll see.
1581
01:21:04,364 --> 01:21:07,333
I do want to say that
you get to be a star
1582
01:21:07,467 --> 01:21:09,903
of the day one day if
you're a Supreme Court guy.
1583
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:12,573
But the case is
made in the trenches
1584
01:21:12,739 --> 01:21:17,177
and this case was really
made with all of you,
1585
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,845
the plaintiffs, the lawyers.
1586
01:21:18,979 --> 01:21:20,313
If we didn't have
that foundation,
1587
01:21:20,446 --> 01:21:22,058
we wouldn't have been
in the Supreme Court.
1588
01:21:22,082 --> 01:21:24,651
So hope springs,
we're going to do it.
1589
01:21:24,785 --> 01:21:25,852
Thank you, everybody.
1590
01:21:31,992 --> 01:21:34,861
We have brought together
some of the best minds
1591
01:21:35,061 --> 01:21:36,763
in the legal community...
1592
01:21:37,463 --> 01:21:39,465
and we have
studied, so carefully,
1593
01:21:39,700 --> 01:21:42,102
the Supreme Court's
jurisprudence on this question
1594
01:21:42,235 --> 01:21:43,537
and built an evidentiary record
1595
01:21:43,670 --> 01:21:47,641
that is so complete
that I'm confident
1596
01:21:47,774 --> 01:21:48,909
we're going to win,
1597
01:21:49,075 --> 01:21:50,355
I'm confident
we're going to win.
1598
01:21:50,711 --> 01:21:53,647
I'll tell you, the future of our
democracy depends on it.
1599
01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:08,028
Here we go, somebody says,
1600
01:22:08,228 --> 01:22:09,606
"Is there any chance of
the gerrymandering cases
1601
01:22:09,630 --> 01:22:10,630
being decided today?"
1602
01:22:10,731 --> 01:22:11,898
Of course there is.
1603
01:22:12,098 --> 01:22:13,834
I mean, so I think
we're mentally prepared
1604
01:22:14,067 --> 01:22:15,747
for a win, obviously
it's fantastic, right?
1605
01:22:15,869 --> 01:22:18,605
But we've talked over
the loss like so many times
1606
01:22:18,739 --> 01:22:21,174
that I think we're
prepared if that happens.
1607
01:22:21,708 --> 01:22:22,809
9:00 o'clock sharp.
1608
01:22:22,943 --> 01:22:24,377
Okay, come on.
1609
01:22:27,614 --> 01:22:30,283
Last decision, Washington
v. United Sates?
1610
01:22:30,684 --> 01:22:32,285
What's Washington
v. United States?
1611
01:22:32,418 --> 01:22:34,018
I don't know, but
that means it's not us.
1612
01:22:34,154 --> 01:22:35,155
All right.
1613
01:22:35,321 --> 01:22:36,422
We can relax.
1614
01:22:36,557 --> 01:22:38,291
Okay, I bet it's next Monday.
1615
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:41,437
I don't know why I'm so
calm now that I think about it,
1616
01:22:41,461 --> 01:22:43,463
it's going to be very
stressful if it comes.
1617
01:22:43,797 --> 01:22:44,998
I just think it's not.
1618
01:22:45,165 --> 01:22:46,843
I just had a very
detailed dream that like,
1619
01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:49,970
Roberts announced the
opinion, just like, you know,
1620
01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:51,605
went after us on standing.
1621
01:22:51,872 --> 01:22:54,541
Like ruled against us on
every single possible issue.
1622
01:22:54,675 --> 01:22:56,442
I think it's called
a nightmare, Nick.
1623
01:22:58,278 --> 01:23:00,313
Second Minnesota
Voters Alliance.
1624
01:23:00,446 --> 01:23:02,816
Oh, Mansky is
reversed and remanded.
1625
01:23:02,983 --> 01:23:04,217
Is that it?
1626
01:23:04,484 --> 01:23:05,528
Second and final opinion,
oh yeah, we're done.
1627
01:23:05,552 --> 01:23:06,920
Woo‐hoo!
1628
01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:08,173
‐ Not today. ‐ That's a wrap.
1629
01:23:18,398 --> 01:23:19,600
Need more coffee.
1630
01:23:21,802 --> 01:23:22,869
I bet this is happening.
1631
01:23:23,036 --> 01:23:24,504
Ah! Don't freak me out.
1632
01:23:25,471 --> 01:23:27,508
But I'm excited, but I'm
scared, but I'm excited.
1633
01:23:27,708 --> 01:23:29,976
Is Annabelle coming here if
there's a decision, just now?
1634
01:23:30,110 --> 01:23:32,112
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ All right.
1635
01:23:33,847 --> 01:23:36,617
Oh my God, it's our
case, oh my God,
1636
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:38,451
it's Gill from the
Chief Justice.
1637
01:23:38,585 --> 01:23:40,854
Holy shit, oh my God, look.
1638
01:23:43,089 --> 01:23:44,490
Look.
1639
01:23:48,228 --> 01:23:49,462
Quiet.
1640
01:23:50,096 --> 01:23:51,532
Holy shit, it's ours.
1641
01:23:52,398 --> 01:23:54,034
Oh my God, I'm going to be sick.
1642
01:23:54,167 --> 01:23:55,435
It is Gill, it is Roberts.
1643
01:23:55,769 --> 01:23:57,313
‐ F‐‐‐, why is it Roberts?
‐ What is it? What is it?
1644
01:23:57,337 --> 01:23:58,605
Okay, it's here, it's here.
1645
01:24:00,006 --> 01:24:01,975
You know the decision
is long and complex,
1646
01:24:02,108 --> 01:24:04,010
but a quick read of it
tells me that essentially
1647
01:24:04,177 --> 01:24:06,647
what the court has said
is that these plaintiffs
1648
01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,683
did not prove that
they had standing
1649
01:24:09,916 --> 01:24:12,786
and individualized
harm to bring the case.
1650
01:24:12,919 --> 01:24:15,556
This morning, the
Supreme Court not ruling
1651
01:24:15,689 --> 01:24:18,959
on partisan gerrymandering,
not putting forth a test
1652
01:24:19,092 --> 01:24:20,293
as to when to determine
1653
01:24:20,426 --> 01:24:22,462
there has been
partisan gerrymandering,
1654
01:24:22,596 --> 01:24:25,365
and really sort of punting
this issue for another day.
1655
01:24:25,566 --> 01:24:26,900
‐ No! ‐ F‐‐‐ you.
1656
01:24:27,167 --> 01:24:28,334
F‐‐‐ you.
1657
01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:31,371
"Failed to demonstrate
Article 3 standing."
1658
01:24:31,672 --> 01:24:32,906
F‐‐‐, damn them.
1659
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:35,642
Really, like that's your
f‐‐‐ing decision ground?
1660
01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:38,444
Now the Supreme Court did say
1661
01:24:38,579 --> 01:24:40,480
that the challengers
can try again
1662
01:24:40,614 --> 01:24:42,048
to see if they can overcome
1663
01:24:42,182 --> 01:24:43,560
the legal obstacle
of getting through
1664
01:24:43,584 --> 01:24:45,285
the courthouse door
achieving standing,
1665
01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:47,353
showing that they
have a particular injury
1666
01:24:47,487 --> 01:24:49,556
and this case does go
back to the lower courts.
1667
01:24:49,690 --> 01:24:51,992
Oh, wait, so it is
vacated and remanded.
1668
01:24:52,358 --> 01:24:53,598
Oh, it is vacated and remanded?
1669
01:24:53,627 --> 01:24:54,828
Yeah, to go back, let's see.
1670
01:24:54,961 --> 01:24:56,162
Oh, wait.
1671
01:24:56,563 --> 01:24:58,040
We might be still alive,
it might be that like,
1672
01:24:58,064 --> 01:25:00,233
"Okay, you have to go
back and technically like get
1673
01:25:00,366 --> 01:25:02,836
some more plaintiffs with
some more allegations."
1674
01:25:06,339 --> 01:25:07,874
So, did you win or lose?
1675
01:25:08,008 --> 01:25:10,911
So, the court says that
in order to pursue a claim
1676
01:25:11,044 --> 01:25:14,548
like ours, you need to
identify specific people,
1677
01:25:14,681 --> 01:25:19,052
specific voters who live in
cracked or packed districts.
1678
01:25:19,219 --> 01:25:22,155
It's not enough to
just assert exclusively
1679
01:25:22,288 --> 01:25:24,357
a statewide harm
or a statewide injury.
1680
01:25:24,490 --> 01:25:26,527
We have some
plaintiffs ready to go,
1681
01:25:26,660 --> 01:25:28,328
we are ready to
amend our complaint,
1682
01:25:28,461 --> 01:25:29,730
and move forward.
1683
01:25:29,863 --> 01:25:32,098
So it's not, I mean,
it's not a disaster,
1684
01:25:32,232 --> 01:25:33,667
it's just frustrating timewise.
1685
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,160
I can't tell, are
you disappointed,
1686
01:25:35,201 --> 01:25:36,369
are you not disappointed?
1687
01:25:36,502 --> 01:25:38,238
This is far from
the worst scenario.
1688
01:25:38,371 --> 01:25:40,240
Yes, I mean, it's
frustrating because we want
1689
01:25:40,373 --> 01:25:41,642
to just win, right?
1690
01:25:41,775 --> 01:25:43,185
Obviously, we want
to just freaking win.
1691
01:25:43,209 --> 01:25:45,245
But it's not a loss, right?
1692
01:25:45,411 --> 01:25:47,051
I mean we haven't
lost, we're still going,
1693
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,658
we still have things to say,
and it suggests we're going
1694
01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:50,242
to eventually win,
which is a good sign.
1695
01:25:50,283 --> 01:25:51,694
Yeah, I would say,
too, that like, you know,
1696
01:25:51,718 --> 01:25:53,820
before today, my
estimate of our odds
1697
01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:56,557
of ultimately winning
was below 50 percent.
1698
01:25:56,690 --> 01:25:58,458
Now I think it's
above 50 percent
1699
01:25:58,592 --> 01:26:00,193
our odds of ultimately winning.
1700
01:26:03,229 --> 01:26:04,731
We continue to follow
1701
01:26:04,865 --> 01:26:06,800
that bombshell announcement
out of Washington.
1702
01:26:07,033 --> 01:26:10,036
Supreme Court Justice
Anthony Kennedy is retiring.
1703
01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:12,773
The 81‐year‐old was
nominated by President Reagan
1704
01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:14,508
and served on the
country's highest court
1705
01:26:14,641 --> 01:26:16,409
for more than 30 years.
1706
01:26:17,844 --> 01:26:20,213
There is really no
way to sugar coat it.
1707
01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:22,082
The retirement of
Anthony Kennedy
1708
01:26:22,215 --> 01:26:23,884
was terrible news
for those people
1709
01:26:24,017 --> 01:26:26,820
that wanted to see the
court do something positive
1710
01:26:27,053 --> 01:26:28,121
on gerrymandering.
1711
01:26:28,321 --> 01:26:30,490
He was the only
conservative justice
1712
01:26:30,757 --> 01:26:32,526
that was at least open minded
1713
01:26:32,726 --> 01:26:34,895
about finding a
solution on this issue
1714
01:26:35,028 --> 01:26:36,028
and now he is gone.
1715
01:26:37,197 --> 01:26:39,733
It is now obvious that
the Supreme Court
1716
01:26:39,866 --> 01:26:42,502
is not going to be our savior
on partisan gerrymandering.
1717
01:26:42,636 --> 01:26:45,639
We may have to
be our own saviors.
1718
01:26:46,106 --> 01:26:49,409
People are trying to take
back these district lines
1719
01:26:49,543 --> 01:26:51,177
that have been
rigged against them.
1720
01:26:51,444 --> 01:26:54,347
They want a fair playing field.
1721
01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:02,856
The hope lies now
at the state level.
1722
01:27:03,156 --> 01:27:07,093
We are seeing around
the country, Michigan, Utah,
1723
01:27:07,227 --> 01:27:12,432
Colorado, Ohio, Missouri,
there are citizen pathways
1724
01:27:12,566 --> 01:27:14,267
moving forward.
1725
01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,288
These are red states,
these are blue states,
1726
01:27:16,336 --> 01:27:17,604
these are purple states.
1727
01:27:17,804 --> 01:27:19,305
These are states
that went for Trump,
1728
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,307
these are states
that went for Clinton.
1729
01:27:21,875 --> 01:27:25,846
This is going to be the
battlefield moving forward.
1730
01:27:31,785 --> 01:27:33,587
The Michigan Supreme Court
1731
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,356
is about to have
a political hot mess
1732
01:27:36,489 --> 01:27:37,691
dumped on its lap.
1733
01:27:37,924 --> 01:27:39,593
The Michigan Court of Appeals
1734
01:27:39,726 --> 01:27:41,828
said the ballot question
meets the legal requirements
1735
01:27:42,028 --> 01:27:44,464
and the voters should
decide in November.
1736
01:27:44,598 --> 01:27:46,366
But the challengers now plan
1737
01:27:46,499 --> 01:27:48,702
to go to the state
Supreme Court.
1738
01:27:56,442 --> 01:27:58,111
‐ Hey. ‐ How are you doing?
1739
01:27:58,278 --> 01:27:59,445
Good, how are you?
1740
01:27:59,613 --> 01:28:00,990
Good, do you mind
if I chat with you
1741
01:28:01,014 --> 01:28:02,494
‐ for a few minutes?
‐ No, not at all.
1742
01:28:02,616 --> 01:28:04,093
Great, so how do
you feel about today?
1743
01:28:04,117 --> 01:28:05,218
We feel good.
1744
01:28:05,351 --> 01:28:06,219
You know, it's
exciting to be here
1745
01:28:06,352 --> 01:28:07,521
at the Hall of Justice.
1746
01:28:07,821 --> 01:28:09,499
We had a really strong
Court of Appeals opinion,
1747
01:28:09,523 --> 01:28:11,491
3‐0 decision saying
our opposition's case
1748
01:28:11,625 --> 01:28:13,560
is without merit and we
have every confidence
1749
01:28:13,694 --> 01:28:16,062
that we'll remain on the
ballot on November 6th.
1750
01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:21,868
I remember distinctly when
we were doing our town halls
1751
01:28:22,068 --> 01:28:24,037
that one of the top
questions I received was,
1752
01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:25,772
isn't it impossible to do this?
1753
01:28:25,939 --> 01:28:27,517
Like, isn't it‐‐ Aren't you
going to get challenged
1754
01:28:27,541 --> 01:28:28,742
by the Supreme Court anyways?
1755
01:28:28,875 --> 01:28:30,186
So, we don't even
have language yet,
1756
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:31,344
we haven't like whatever,
1757
01:28:31,477 --> 01:28:32,717
and like the people of Michigan
1758
01:28:32,846 --> 01:28:34,380
were already really
worried about that
1759
01:28:34,515 --> 01:28:36,717
because we
consistently have seen
1760
01:28:37,150 --> 01:28:40,053
opposition wanting to
undermine this process.
1761
01:28:40,186 --> 01:28:41,522
Good morning.
1762
01:28:41,855 --> 01:28:44,015
This is a special session of
the Michigan Supreme Court
1763
01:28:44,057 --> 01:28:46,593
to address an
emergency election matter.
1764
01:28:47,861 --> 01:28:50,296
The scary part is that the
Michigan Supreme Court
1765
01:28:50,463 --> 01:28:51,865
is a political body.
1766
01:28:52,132 --> 01:28:55,035
Our judges get nominated
from political parties.
1767
01:28:55,468 --> 01:28:58,572
Five of them were nominated
from the Republicans
1768
01:28:58,905 --> 01:29:01,474
and two of them came
from the Democrat side.
1769
01:29:02,175 --> 01:29:04,978
We know that the Michigan
GOP is applying a lot of pressure
1770
01:29:05,111 --> 01:29:07,648
to let them know how
they would like them to rule.
1771
01:29:08,148 --> 01:29:10,250
The constitution is very clear
1772
01:29:10,383 --> 01:29:13,654
that the people are the source
of all governmental power
1773
01:29:13,787 --> 01:29:16,623
and they have the ability to
define how the government
1774
01:29:16,757 --> 01:29:18,058
is going to be set up.
1775
01:29:18,324 --> 01:29:20,293
At the expense of the
people having their right
1776
01:29:20,426 --> 01:29:22,128
to elect representatives
as they've done
1777
01:29:22,262 --> 01:29:23,597
for two generations.
1778
01:29:24,064 --> 01:29:25,566
I don't believe
this infringes that
1779
01:29:25,699 --> 01:29:26,933
whatsoever, Your Honor.
1780
01:29:27,067 --> 01:29:30,103
It substitutes 13 citizens
chosen at random
1781
01:29:30,403 --> 01:29:33,674
across this state in place
of a process in which
1782
01:29:33,807 --> 01:29:36,843
10 million people have
a direct participation
1783
01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:39,379
in the process by electing
their representatives
1784
01:29:39,513 --> 01:29:40,647
and senators.
1785
01:29:40,781 --> 01:29:42,716
Is that not somewhat
consequential?
1786
01:29:42,916 --> 01:29:44,818
I suppose the question
is whether they decide
1787
01:29:45,018 --> 01:29:47,287
that they want the
legislature to have this power,
1788
01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:48,589
or a commission,
1789
01:29:48,722 --> 01:29:50,042
or to do it in some
other fashion?
1790
01:29:50,123 --> 01:29:53,259
All power in our
state and in our nation
1791
01:29:53,393 --> 01:29:55,028
is derived from
the people, right?
1792
01:29:56,129 --> 01:29:58,164
Are there any further questions?
1793
01:29:58,298 --> 01:29:59,900
We stand adjourned.
1794
01:30:02,803 --> 01:30:04,270
Yeah, sounds great.
1795
01:30:04,838 --> 01:30:06,206
How are you doing?
1796
01:30:06,339 --> 01:30:07,339
Logged a big day, eh?
1797
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:08,440
Yeah.
1798
01:30:08,509 --> 01:30:09,552
Let's go here with the people...
1799
01:30:09,576 --> 01:30:10,677
Okay, sounds good.
1800
01:30:10,811 --> 01:30:11,821
So this is really
a fight against
1801
01:30:11,845 --> 01:30:13,113
status quo and change?
1802
01:30:13,580 --> 01:30:14,715
I believe it is.
1803
01:30:15,148 --> 01:30:16,693
Actually, I think it's a fight
about whether the people
1804
01:30:16,717 --> 01:30:18,018
of Michigan can be trusted
1805
01:30:18,151 --> 01:30:19,620
to amend own
constitution or not.
1806
01:30:19,753 --> 01:30:22,488
I feel like we
were fairly heard,
1807
01:30:22,623 --> 01:30:24,357
and that we left
it on the table,
1808
01:30:24,525 --> 01:30:29,530
and I think that what I heard
was that our constitution
1809
01:30:30,196 --> 01:30:33,600
is enshrined in letting
the people of our state
1810
01:30:33,734 --> 01:30:35,235
decide these issues.
1811
01:30:35,536 --> 01:30:36,803
Thanks, guys.
1812
01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:51,618
Sit down, sit down.
1813
01:30:51,752 --> 01:30:54,220
Oh my God, Jenny, calm down.
1814
01:31:14,575 --> 01:31:16,076
We have an election to win.
1815
01:31:16,276 --> 01:31:18,679
We know that our opposition
now knows that we are an army
1816
01:31:18,812 --> 01:31:21,815
and that we can apply
pressure in ways that they can't.
1817
01:31:21,948 --> 01:31:23,917
It is time to make
it so that we get
1818
01:31:24,050 --> 01:31:26,319
way over two million
votes for voting yes
1819
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,021
and so that people know what
1820
01:31:28,154 --> 01:31:30,356
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
1821
01:31:30,490 --> 01:31:31,725
can mean for Michigan.
1822
01:31:31,892 --> 01:31:34,460
It is time to knock some doors.
1823
01:31:34,828 --> 01:31:37,397
Good morning, I'm a volunteer
1824
01:31:37,531 --> 01:31:39,733
from Voters Not Politicians.
1825
01:31:39,933 --> 01:31:43,904
Hi, we're volunteers
with Voters Not Politicians.
1826
01:31:47,307 --> 01:31:49,743
I want to congratulate
the people of Michigan
1827
01:31:50,076 --> 01:31:52,278
for the great choice
and the great vote
1828
01:31:52,412 --> 01:31:53,947
of the Supreme Court.
1829
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,083
So that the people move
forward with the initiative
1830
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:59,853
and to have redistricting
happening in Michigan
1831
01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:02,789
because it's the voters
versus the politicians,
1832
01:32:02,923 --> 01:32:04,123
that's what this is all about.
1833
01:32:04,190 --> 01:32:06,092
We've got to go and
vote for the voters,
1834
01:32:06,226 --> 01:32:07,260
not the politicians.
1835
01:32:07,493 --> 01:32:10,230
That's awesome. What?
1836
01:32:13,266 --> 01:32:15,001
Proposal 2 is on the ballot,
1837
01:32:15,135 --> 01:32:17,671
Katie Fahey is
supporting the proposal
1838
01:32:17,838 --> 01:32:19,706
and of course conservative
Republican Jamie Roe
1839
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,007
doesn't like it at all.
1840
01:32:21,141 --> 01:32:23,376
Democrats lose
races in this state
1841
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:24,754
because they have
bad candidates,
1842
01:32:24,778 --> 01:32:26,479
not because we have bad lines.
1843
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,617
This is an unnecessary solution
to a problem that doesn't exist.
1844
01:32:30,751 --> 01:32:32,991
The people who draw the lines
now are accountable to each
1845
01:32:33,053 --> 01:32:35,188
and every one of
us at the ballot box,
1846
01:32:35,321 --> 01:32:36,557
the 13‐member star chamber
1847
01:32:36,690 --> 01:32:38,258
is going to be
accountable to nobody.
1848
01:32:38,391 --> 01:32:40,326
Proposal 2, deal
breaker number one.
1849
01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:43,196
Proposal 2 gives 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1850
01:32:43,329 --> 01:32:45,566
absolute authority
in your constitution.
1851
01:32:45,699 --> 01:32:48,769
Proposal 2 lets 13 new
redistricting commissioners
1852
01:32:48,902 --> 01:32:51,404
vote themselves unlimited
pay and unlimited perks.
1853
01:32:51,538 --> 01:32:53,907
Convicted felons can be
picked as commissioners.
1854
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,909
It's 3,200 words.
1855
01:32:56,076 --> 01:32:58,745
Vote no on 2 or
the joke's on you.
1856
01:33:00,146 --> 01:33:02,148
Something that is super
bothering me right now
1857
01:33:02,348 --> 01:33:04,918
is that robo‐call they did
from "Katie" urging them
1858
01:33:05,051 --> 01:33:07,120
to vote no on Prop 2 and 3.
1859
01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:10,123
Like there is no way you
just chose Katie out of a hat.
1860
01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:11,491
Jerks.
1861
01:33:11,725 --> 01:33:13,093
I'm tired.
1862
01:33:50,196 --> 01:33:52,298
You are looking live
at democracy in action.
1863
01:33:52,498 --> 01:33:55,368
We're seeing huge numbers
of voters showing up today
1864
01:33:55,501 --> 01:33:56,803
at the polls.
1865
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:01,842
Are there door hangers
for today, we got asked.
1866
01:34:01,975 --> 01:34:03,143
They're here.
1867
01:34:03,409 --> 01:34:04,521
Aren't those the
same door hangers
1868
01:34:04,545 --> 01:34:05,812
we have been using?
1869
01:34:05,946 --> 01:34:07,113
No, it says, "vote today".
1870
01:34:07,247 --> 01:34:08,982
Oh, it does? Cute.
1871
01:34:10,450 --> 01:34:11,852
So much more
1872
01:34:11,985 --> 01:34:13,462
than just candidates
on the ballot today,
1873
01:34:13,486 --> 01:34:14,966
we're taking a look
at three proposals
1874
01:34:15,088 --> 01:34:16,389
that could drastically change
1875
01:34:16,523 --> 01:34:18,058
what it means to
be a Michigan voter.
1876
01:34:18,458 --> 01:34:19,993
Proposal 2 would create
1877
01:34:20,126 --> 01:34:21,662
an independent commission
1878
01:34:21,795 --> 01:34:23,997
to draw new legislative
and congressional districts
1879
01:34:24,130 --> 01:34:25,431
after each census.
1880
01:34:25,566 --> 01:34:27,568
Got some info on Prop
2 ending gerrymandering
1881
01:34:27,701 --> 01:34:28,735
in our state.
1882
01:34:28,902 --> 01:34:30,303
Thank you for voting.
1883
01:34:31,271 --> 01:34:32,272
Yeah.
1884
01:34:34,307 --> 01:34:36,209
It's coming down to the wire.
1885
01:34:36,342 --> 01:34:38,278
About an hour left to
go before the polls close
1886
01:34:38,444 --> 01:34:40,981
across the state of
Michigan in these crucial
1887
01:34:41,114 --> 01:34:42,448
midterm elections.
1888
01:34:42,583 --> 01:34:43,650
Thank you.
1889
01:34:44,017 --> 01:34:45,586
‐ 8:01. ‐ 8:01.
1890
01:34:45,719 --> 01:34:46,920
Okay.
1891
01:34:47,087 --> 01:34:49,055
That's it, there's
nothing else we can do.
1892
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:51,091
We've done everything we can do.
1893
01:34:57,330 --> 01:35:00,133
It's almost 10:00 p.
m. and you guys are,
1894
01:35:00,266 --> 01:35:04,671
it's only 11‐ish percent
reporting but you're up by...
1895
01:35:04,838 --> 01:35:06,072
Nine, only nine.
1896
01:35:06,206 --> 01:35:07,774
That doesn't make me feel good.
1897
01:35:08,074 --> 01:35:10,110
I think, I wish we
were winning by more.
1898
01:35:11,545 --> 01:35:13,355
Just so I feel a little
better, but you know what?
1899
01:35:13,379 --> 01:35:14,114
That's okay.
1900
01:35:14,247 --> 01:35:15,616
I wish they would just be done.
1901
01:35:15,749 --> 01:35:16,959
Are you also
preparing the we lost?
1902
01:35:16,983 --> 01:35:18,351
Is there a good
gift for that too?
1903
01:35:18,484 --> 01:35:20,020
We lost, oh...
1904
01:35:20,153 --> 01:35:21,522
Just taking a look now at some
1905
01:35:21,655 --> 01:35:23,399
of the election results
still coming in right now.
1906
01:35:23,423 --> 01:35:24,791
Proposal 2 would change the way
1907
01:35:24,925 --> 01:35:26,292
Michigan draws its state house,
1908
01:35:26,426 --> 01:35:28,294
state senate, and
congressional districts.
1909
01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:31,231
And right now the yes
votes are well ahead.
1910
01:35:31,431 --> 01:35:33,033
Do they call the proposals
1911
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:34,701
later than they call candidates?
1912
01:35:34,835 --> 01:35:36,269
Who calls it?
1913
01:35:36,537 --> 01:35:37,738
Who are we waiting for?
1914
01:35:38,438 --> 01:35:40,306
Now that some of the
results are coming in,
1915
01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:42,509
I'm like, "Yeah, okay.
1916
01:35:42,943 --> 01:35:45,979
Okay, maybe, maybe,
maybe, maybe."
1917
01:35:48,481 --> 01:35:49,516
Who said it?
1918
01:35:50,551 --> 01:35:51,985
A bunch of news articles.
1919
01:35:52,118 --> 01:35:54,621
No, Elizabeth,
you believed in us
1920
01:35:54,755 --> 01:35:56,489
before like almost anybody did.
1921
01:36:09,836 --> 01:36:12,005
I just got told we called it.
1922
01:36:12,405 --> 01:36:15,375
Way to fucking change
the Michigan constitution.
1923
01:36:15,542 --> 01:36:16,943
How am I not crying?
1924
01:36:17,077 --> 01:36:19,880
How are you guys, I cry
all the time, you never cry.
1925
01:36:20,514 --> 01:36:22,215
Come here. Come here.
1926
01:36:23,349 --> 01:36:26,052
Aww. Okay, okay, we
should say something.
1927
01:36:26,186 --> 01:36:28,589
I feel like we should
say something.
1928
01:36:28,722 --> 01:36:30,524
Hey, guys, we won!
1929
01:36:36,296 --> 01:36:39,700
We f‐‐‐ing amended
the state constitution.
1930
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:43,469
Okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay.
1931
01:36:43,604 --> 01:36:45,606
I can't breathe, Kelly.
1932
01:36:53,146 --> 01:36:56,249
All political power is
inherent in the people!
1933
01:37:03,156 --> 01:37:06,292
There were three other
states across our country
1934
01:37:06,426 --> 01:37:08,128
who were trying to
end gerrymandering too.
1935
01:37:08,261 --> 01:37:10,363
We had Utah,
Missouri, and Colorado.
1936
01:37:10,864 --> 01:37:12,298
Missouri has been called,
1937
01:37:12,432 --> 01:37:14,935
they have also officially
ended gerrymandering,
1938
01:37:15,068 --> 01:37:16,803
heck yes!
1939
01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,877
Utah is almost called,
57 percent reporting
1940
01:37:24,010 --> 01:37:25,245
for changing lines.
1941
01:37:25,979 --> 01:37:30,250
In Colorado it was
at 71.4 percent, 71!
1942
01:37:34,655 --> 01:37:36,923
This is not a moment,
but a movement.
1943
01:37:37,290 --> 01:37:39,626
The people of our
country are sick of this
1944
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,128
and if we don't come and
say that enough is enough,
1945
01:37:42,262 --> 01:37:43,664
then nothing is going to change.
1946
01:37:43,797 --> 01:37:46,266
But we have proven that
you can keep your integrity,
1947
01:37:46,533 --> 01:37:48,602
you can make it so that
you can invite anyone
1948
01:37:48,735 --> 01:37:51,037
to the table, you can
operate a campaign
1949
01:37:51,171 --> 01:37:52,338
in a transparent way
1950
01:37:52,573 --> 01:37:54,741
where we actually trust
the people of our state
1951
01:37:54,875 --> 01:37:55,976
to make decisions,
1952
01:37:56,142 --> 01:37:57,578
and it ends up in
a beautiful result
1953
01:37:57,711 --> 01:37:59,846
that unites thousands of
people and is about to unite
1954
01:37:59,980 --> 01:38:01,047
millions of people.
1955
01:38:01,181 --> 01:38:02,749
It mattered that you showed up,
1956
01:38:02,883 --> 01:38:04,243
it mattered that
you knocked doors,
1957
01:38:04,317 --> 01:38:05,762
it mattered that you
gathered signatures,
1958
01:38:05,786 --> 01:38:08,088
and stood in the rain,
in the cold, in the heat.
1959
01:38:08,354 --> 01:38:12,025
All of that mattered for
generations of people.
1960
01:38:12,158 --> 01:38:16,663
Your sacrifices have
changed our constitution.
1961
01:38:17,063 --> 01:38:18,765
The Michigan state
constitution opens with,
1962
01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:21,968
"All political power is
inherent in the people."
1963
01:38:22,402 --> 01:38:25,906
We are those people,
this is our power,
1964
01:38:26,206 --> 01:38:27,307
let's go have
1965
01:38:27,608 --> 01:38:29,251
an Independent Citizens
Redistricting Commission
1966
01:38:29,275 --> 01:38:31,377
that restores
faith in democracy.
1967
01:38:31,778 --> 01:38:33,013
Cheers.
1968
01:38:36,482 --> 01:38:38,018
And I think we're
ready to party.
1969
01:39:21,427 --> 01:39:22,929
Respect our vote,
1970
01:39:23,063 --> 01:39:24,364
respect our vote,
1971
01:39:24,565 --> 01:39:28,034
respect our vote,
respect our vote.
1972
01:39:28,168 --> 01:39:30,136
All votes matters.
1973
01:39:30,270 --> 01:39:31,972
Voting rights are human rights,
1974
01:39:32,105 --> 01:39:34,107
voting rights are human rights.
1975
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,376
Show me what
democracy looks like.
1976
01:39:36,510 --> 01:39:38,979
This is what
democracy looks like.
1977
01:39:39,112 --> 01:39:41,347
Show me what
democracy looks like.
1978
01:39:41,515 --> 01:39:43,950
This is what
democracy looks like.
1979
01:39:44,084 --> 01:39:47,253
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
1980
01:39:47,387 --> 01:39:50,090
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
1981
01:39:50,223 --> 01:39:53,493
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
1982
01:39:53,627 --> 01:39:57,297
I believe that we will win,
I believe that we will win.
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