All language subtitles for Survivor.S02E16.en

( cheers and applause )

>> GUMBEL: Nice, nice.
Good evening and welcome back.

It is a long way from the
Australian Outback to our L.A.

soundstage, where our castaways
are tonight surrounded by an

audience of family, friends, and
fans.

Let's welcome individually,
starting with our two finalists,

Tina Wesson, Colby Donaldson.
Then the jurors, with whom we

are all familiar.
The Outback's resident chef,

Keith Famie; the ever so sweet,
Elisabeth Filarski; her buddy

Rodger Bingham; the youngest
castaway, 22-year-old Amber

Brkich; Harvard law student Nick
Brown; the controversial Jerri

Manthey; and the oh-so-buff
Alicia Calaway.

And reuniting with their former
tribe mates for the first time

since their days in the Outback,
cheerleader Jeff Varner; burn

victim Michael Scupin;
vegetarian Kimmi Kappenberg; the

seven-footer, Mitchell Olson;
Maralyn "Mad Dog" Hershey;

Captain Kel Gleason; and the
first to go, Debb Eaton.

Good evening, everybody.
>> ALL: Good evening, Bryant.

( applause and cheering )
>> GUMBEL: Well, Ms. Wesson,

what have you got to say for
yourself?

>> TINA: Oh, I just never
believed it.

>> GUMBEL: Oh, come on.
>> TINA: I never believed it.

Never once.
I never even thought about the

voting process, who might be
voting for who.

>> GUMBEL: How could you go
these months without thinking

about it even one time?
>> TINA: Whenever Colby and I

came back to camp that night
after Keith was gone, we felt

like we had won, because this is
what we wanted to do whenever we

joined with each other in
alliance, this is what we wanted

to do, we wanted to make it to
the last two.

And that was winning for me.
>> GUMBEL: Yeah, but we're

talking about a difference of
considerable jack between

winning and being runner-up.
>> TINA: It was not about the

money.
>> COLBY: $900,000 In fact.

( laughter )
>> GUMBEL: But who's counting?

>> TINA: If this game had been
for free, I would have done it.

If there was no prize at all,
for free, I would have gone out

and played this game.
>> GUMBEL: Why did you do it,

Colby?
I mean, why did you do it?

You know, it was a pretty
magnanimous gesture.

>> COLBY: Oh, why did I choose
Tina?

>> GUMBEL: Yeah.
>> COLBY: Oh, well... I thought

you were asking something else.
Well, there are a lot of

reasons, and I've thought about
this and tried to come up with

something intelligent to say
because I knew I'd be asked this

question.
You know, and Tina's right.

And it gets said so many times,
that I was so driven to win and,

you know, I was so focused, and
I was.

I was very intense with what I
wanted to do, but the game

changes for everyone, and it
did change for me.

And when Tina and I, we started
becoming close, and it really

started when we voted Mitchell
off instead of Keith.

That's when we decided to play
our game, and we did.

We took this thing to the end.
And that night was a victory for

us, when we got to go back
together.

And you know, the thing is, even
though when I chose Tina to go

with me into the end, thus
making it much more competitive

on the final vote, I've been
able to sleep every night since

then.
I haven't lost one night of

sleep worrying about whether or
not I would win because she

deserved it.
And that's the beauty of this

game.
It doesn't matter how many

challenges I won or how many
beans and stew I ate all the

time, it doesn't matter because
it comes down to the game

itself.
And there's a whole lot...

there are so many factors
involved, and people can't

understand that.
I don't expect them to.

>> GUMBEL: Keith, how shocked
were you when he said bye to you

instead of to Tina?
>> KEITH: You know, the last

five days of the game, were
fairly enlightening to me just

from a life standpoint.
And I really felt that this game

really wasn't about money.
I gained a lot more out of it.

I told my two very special
people in my life, Josh and

Alicia, my kids, and of course
Katrine my fiancée now, I was

just going to do the best I
could do.

Do the best I could do.
And that's all I planned on

doing the best I could do.
I told my mom that.

Do the best I could do with the
game.

>> GUMBEL: But here's a guy
sitting next to you who

basically gave up $900,000
because he didn't want you to

have it.
>> KEITH: Well, you know, call

Colby a fool then.
No, you know what?

I think that... and I agree with
Colby, too.

I'll be honest with you, if I
would have... I would have

probably picked Tina to be in it
in the end with me if I had won

that immunity challenge, I
probably would have voted Colby

out knowing that Tina
realistically would have beaten

me.
The game changes dramatically.

When we had that flood, the time
that flood hit, the game was

off.
This was now about survival,

living conditions, who you can
cohabitate with and just... and

being able to build
relationships.

And for me, it was... Tina just
really deserved it.

>> GUMBEL: But you weren't
uncomfortable?

I mean, we were listening to
some of the things they were

talking about.
They said, "Keith didn't

earn the right."
"We dragged him along."

"He didn't deserve the spot."
"We put up with him."

>> KEITH: Oh, oh, that.
>> GUMBEL: "We used him."

I mean come on.
>> KEITH: Trust me, Colby can

play the game mentally better
that anybody.

That stuff hurt.
But I think that in the scope of

the game, in the scope of the
game, when it comes down to the

last three, when a decision like
that is made, it's huge.

And you've got to really have
some pretty valuable decisions

why.
>> GUMBEL: Tina got four votes.

Jerri, Keith, we can assume.
Who are the other two?

Alicia and Elisabeth?
Is that right?

Why Tina?
>> ALICIA: Was it you,

Elisabeth?
>> ELISABETH: Yeah.

>> GUMBEL: Why Tina?
>> ALICIA: Because I think Tina

just put it all together.
Everybody said what was

exactly the truth, that she had
a strategy coming into this.

She played it until the very,
very end, and she didn't win any

challenges, not one.
>> GUMBEL: You hold that against

Colby that he did?
>> ALICIA: Not at all, but she

had to be doing something right
to make it that far into the

final two and that's strategy.
It wasn't about winning

challenges, it was about
strategizing, and that's what

this is all about.
And I think she deserved it.

>> GUMBEL: Elisabeth?
>> ELISABETH: I said when I

voted, this was the most
difficult vote that I had to

make because the two people
sitting there, I had just

developed such a respect
and love for in the Outback

as people.
And I knew Colby's... Colby's

potential is outstanding, and I
also knew that Tina had decided,

you know, prior to all the
voting that, you know, what she

was going to do with the money.
I just really took heart to, I

really did.
And as we all know, I'm an

emotional person, so...
>> GUMBEL: Yes, you are.

>> ELISABETH: Guess how I voted?
By my heart.

>> GUMBEL: Looking at the Colby
voting block right behind you

there, with Rodger, Amber and
Nick, why Colby, guys?

>> NICK: Well, at least for me,
I mean, if you make it to the

final two, it's not easy to say
who deserved it more and who

played the game better.
I mean, they did it differently

to get to the final two.
But, for me, I just voted for

the person who I thought,
outside the context of the game,

who really tried to get to know
me.

And at that point in the game,
Colby and I had conversated

about a number of things and I
just felt we related.

>> GUMBEL: It didn't help that
he said you'd have been the one

that was sitting there if he
wasn't.

>> COLBY: The question played a
part of it, because he didn't

quite answer it, but, uh...
>> GUMBEL: Amber, Rodger, what

about it, why Colby?
>> AMBER: It was a hard

decision.
With Elisabeth, I was going back

and forth the whole entire day.
And up until the last minute

before, even after I asked my
question, they both gave great

answers.
The Harley and then the charity,

you know.
>> GUMBEL: Rodger, what about

you?
>> AMBER: But... I'm sorry.

>> GUMBEL: Go ahead.
>> AMBER: I just... I don't

know.
I just went with my gut, and I

just thought Colby had... I mean
he had played so awesome and had

won all those challenges.
I mean, he won every single

immunity besides two, I think,
and I just think that's

incredible.
And I don't know...

>> RODGER: For me, it was a
very, very hard vote.

And even after I voted for
Colby, which has been several

weeks now, I think, "Oh, I
should have voted for Tina," and

then I think, "No, I was right."
And I've switched back and

forth.
And I was glad to see it come

down to a 4-3 vote tonight
because that says a lot about

both of those individuals
sitting there tonight.

>> GUMBEL: Colby, is there
something wrong with the game--

I know Mark Burnett's
sitting out here.

He's upset at me for asking
this.

But is there something wrong
with a game that you dominate so

thoroughly and don't win?
>> COLBY: No, absolutely not.

>> RODGER: He's 30 years younger
than me, that's why.

>> GUMBEL: Me too.
Don't worry about it.

You and I are the same age, so
let's not do this.

>> COLBY: In a lot of it, I
mean, I was very fortunate.

Let's put things into
perspective.

If Mike's accident hadn't
happened, I wouldn't be sitting

in the top two, that's for sure.
You know, there are a lot of

very fortunate instances.
>> GUMBEL: And there's one final

thing that we should share for
the first time tonight that

nobody knows, which is two weeks
before this got started, you

weren't going.
>> COLBY: That's right.

>> GUMBEL: You weren't on this,
were you?

>> TINA: No, sir, I was not.
I was not picked for the

original show.
>> GUMBEL: You were in reserve.

>> TINA: I was an alternate.
And I was so disappointed, I've

got to tell you.
And my husband kept saying,

"Honey, they're going to call
you back."

And I'm, like, "They're not
going to call me back, honey.

They already made their
decision."

Three days that went on, and
they called me back on Monday.

>> GUMBEL: How good is that?
How good is that?

>> TINA: That's great.
>> GUMBEL: Hey, sit tight.

We're going to come back in just
a moment because as all our

castaways can readily attest,
their time in Australia, truly

was about survival of the most
basic sort.

When we come back, we'll talk
about the hunger and the

hardships they all endured in
the Outback.

We're back after this.
>> TINA: One of the most

We're back after this.
>> TINA: One of the most

important survival tips that I
can give you is that you must be

agile enough to get up in the
tree canopies just like the

koala bears to get that precious
fruit.

( screams )
( laughter )

( applause )
>> TINA: Oh...

>> GUMBEL: It worked.
>> TINA: There you go.

>> GUMBEL: It worked.
It got you onboard.

>> TINA: But you said they were
cheesy.

You were mean...
>> GUMBEL: You're right, it

wasn't...
You're right. I did, but you

know what?
The other little secret we

should tell is this guy was
supposed to be part of the first

one... and, um, didn't quite
make it, and so they put him on

the second one.
You were... you were supposed to

go head-to-head with Richard,
weren't you?

>> KEITH: I was.
And actually, I'm glad I had the

opportunity to do the Australian
Outback. I...

This-- the bond I've made with
these individuals has been... is

lifelong.
It's-it's memorable, and it'll

be forever. It's great.
>> GUMBEL: We're going to talk

friends and enemies in our next
segment.

I want to try to talk, if I
could, hunger and hardships, um,

for a little while, because it
was tough out there-- at least

it appeared to us as we were
watching it.

Nobody suffered a greater
hardship perhaps than the

gentleman in the back row.
Michael, first of all, show us

your hands.
Not bad. Not bad.

( applause )
>> MICHAEL: I'm real fortunate.

>> GUMBEL: I think any of us who
saw this will not soon forget

it.
Um, but you've said in a funny

kind of way, it was something
good that happened to you.

How come?
>> MICHAEL: You know, y-your

motivations for going on the
show are so much different at

the beginning, and, like, people
have been talking about, you

know, what happens just... it-it
transcend-transcends money or

prizes or anything.
And the-the-the spiritual growth

and the family growth...
I mean, my kids and my wife and

my mom and just everybody-- it's
just... it's-it's the greatest

experience, and... what happened
to me was...

A million bucks couldn't buy it.
( applause )

>> GUMBEL: I believe... I
believe it was Colby who said

that the environment and the
elements were the dominant

factors in this competition.
Would any of you quibble with

that?
>> ELISABETH: No, not at all.

>> ALICIA: No.
>> JERRI: No.

>> GUMBEL: Was the... was the
two able to translate how tough

it was out there, Jeff?
>> JEFF V.: Um, well, I can't

speak for how it was after I
left, but...

( laughing )
And it seemed to get a lot

harder after I left.
>> GUMBEL: Yeah.

>> JEFF V.: I mean, for us, we
were fortunate at Kucha to be

kicking Ogakor's butt, so we had
lots of food.

>> GUMBEL: Can we... can we
explain what the names for the

tribes were when you were out
there?

>> JEFF V.: Um, Kucha is, uh,
kangaroo, and Ogakor...

>> GUMBEL: No, no, no, no, no.
What did you call 'em?

>> Oh...
>> JEFF V.: Oh, you mean in the

dressing room?
>> GUMBEL: Yeah.

>> JEFF V.: Oga-boring.
>> Oh!

>> GUMBEL: Oga-boring.
>> KEITH: Hey, Jeff, the game's

over, man.
The game is over, Jeff.

Still drawing the line.
( laughter )

>> GUMBEL: How bad was the
hunger, Nick?

>> NICK: You know, I never ever
felt hungry after day one, but

you're just weak.
You get up to do anything, and

you're weak, and you get dizzy.
And the day I got kicked off, I

stood up and just got dizzy and
couldn't do anything.

And that never really translates
on the television, but...

>> JERRI: They weren't as hungry
as we were.

>> NICK: We weren't as hungry as
them, 'cause we were kicking

their butt.
>> JERRI: That's the issue.

Kucha never experienced hunger
the way that Ogakor had to.

>> I agree.
>> JERRI: And they didn't

experience it-- for the people
that stayed till the end-- until

after I left-- at that point,
when there was a-a cup of rice

left.
And I watched Elisabeth start

going through the same things
that we had gone through at the

beginning of the game.
I watched Nick experience it,

and... I thought it was kind of
funny, but, uh... sweet justice.

( laughter )
>> GUMBEL: Cruella DeVil had

nothing on you, darling.
Yes, yes, Mad Dog?

>> MARALYN: Bryant, um, after a
couple days, my stomach was

shrinking.
Uh, I was losing weight, feeling

good.
If only I could've stayed there

for a couple more weeks, I'd be
wearing a thong.

( cheering )
>> GUMBEL: Mitchell, Mitchell,

correct me if I'm wrong, but you
were among a few people here who

kind of thought that, when the
cameras were off, the crew

would... would feed you, right?
>> MITCHELL: Right, right.

Throw you an apple or something.
>> GUMBEL: I mean, you would've

thought they'd flip you an apple
or a banana or something?

>> MITCHELL: At least that,
right?

Especially for me. Look at me.
I'm seven feet tall.

I weigh, like, a buck ten.
So I think it definitely hit me

faster than it hit anybody else,
and-and I know that that was

probably the reason of my exit.
( laughter )

>> GUMBEL: Rodger, was that the
worst part of it?

>> RODGER: Oh, yes, sir.
We went one, uh, stretch out

there for about 34 hours without
anything to eat, and-and then

when we did eat, it was, like,
a, uh, third, uh, of a cup of

rice.
And I remember Thanksgiving Day,

uh, Day, Nick had been keeping
a-a calendar, and all we had to

eat Thanksgiving Day was some,
uh, uh, macadamia nuts.

So that'll-that'll be a
Thanksgiving I'll-I'll never

forget.
>> GUMBEL: Yeah. Boredom was...

boredom was a part of it.
Um, lack of companionship, shall

we say, um, was another part of
it.

Kimmi, I had heard a rumor... I
had heard a rumor-- you can

just... you can confirm or
deny-- that, um, you were going

to do a birthday suit bash.
>> KIMMI: Yes, I said I would.

I said I was going to, in
Survivor tradition, you know,

go out and, um, go in my
birthday suit on my birthday,

and you guys voted me out four
days too soon. Thanks a lot.

>> ELISABETH: That was strategy,
Kimmi.

>> America's loss.
>> JEFF V.: We saw it anyway,

Bryant.
>> GUMBEL: Oh, I'm sorry?

>> JEFF V.: We saw it anyway.
>> KIMMI: Oh, my God!

Oh, my God.
>> GUMBEL: Jeff, you know,

you're the one who had asked
ahead of time, I heard, "If

somebody has sex out there, are
you going to tape it?"

>> JEFF V.: How did you hear
this?

>> GUMBEL: I asked around.
>> JEFF V.: Yeah.

>> GUMBEL: Um, no-nobody did.
>> JEFF: Yes.

>> GUMBEL: Nobody even tried.
How come?

>> JEFF V.: Well, I mean, I
don't...

You know, everybody says, "Who
had sex with whom-- where's the

romance?" but to me, I mean, for
the life of me, I cannot imagine

anybody in that environment
being romantically attracted to

anybody.
>> GUMBEL: Why?

>> JEFF V.: You're not eating...
>> GUMBEL: Why?

The rest of us are looking at
this and saying, "This is the

Baywatch bunch."
>> JEFF V.: Well, you'll be out

there with people that are not
bathing, are not brushing their

teeth, are getting on your
nerves, sleeping in dirt.

>> Armpits...
>> JEFF V.: There's nothing sexy

about that at all.
>> It didn't bother me a bit.

>> KIMMI: No Tic-Tacs, no square
of toilet paper...

>> Been wearing the same undies
for...

>> KIMMI: You can't touch
yourself, let alone somebody

else.
>> GUMBEL: Is that why, Nick,

you said all these women looked
so nasty?

( laughter )
>> ALICIA: Did you say that?

>> MARALYN: Bryant?
>> GUMBEL: He did.

>> NICK: After-after 24 hours...
I mean, we have some cute women

in this game and on my tribe.
>> JEFF V.: Beautiful.

>> NICK: And after 24 hours,
they're nasty, and I mean...

( laughter )
I mean, so what?

I was nasty, too.
I mean, three pairs of

underwear.
Three pairs of underwear.

You're all nasty.
>> GUMBEL: Go ahead, Mad Dog.

>> MARALYN: Bryant, as you know,
I am a retired cop, so from day

one, I designated myself as the
prophylactic police.

( laughter )
There were 12 condoms in that

first aid kit when I got there,
and by God, there were 12 when I

left.
( laughter )

>> Whoo!
>> GUMBEL: But I mean, the rest

of us are sitting at home, and
we're watching these lovely

young ladies-- which reminds me,
which reminds me...

Amber, Elisabeth, having watched
the first one and seeing all the

attention that Colleen and Jenna
got for those bikinis, what was

the deal with those bathing
suits?

>> AMBER: Strategy. No.
( laughter )

>> JERRI: That's my line.
>> GUMBEL: Strategy or modesty?

>> AMBER: No, I mean, I was just
thinking, you know...

>> NICK: We wanted the thong.
>> AMBER: The thong, yeah.

Well, I wanted... if I'm going
to do challenges in these

bathing suits and swimming in
these bathing suits, I didn't

want my top falling down
anywhere, and also, you know,

you had to go with the shorts
thing, and she had the same

idea.
>> GUMBEL: Elisabeth?

>> ELISABETH: You needed the
shorts.

You feel a little more
comfortable, and I thought

bright, in case, um, something
drastic would happen, someone

could definitely find me in the
pink.

( laughter )
>> GUMBEL: All right.

We'll let it go at that.
Hey, look, as I promised, we'll

talk, uh, friends and enemies
when we come back in just a

little bit, but before we do,
Colby, a special treat for you.

Some folks in, uh, your hometown
of Dallas are celebrating with a

huge party tonight.
Here's a live look at how some

of the Lone Star state are
saluting their star Survivor.

We're back after this.
( cheering )

>> MARALYN: Oh, God, seven weeks
in a dumpster!

If you can survive seven weeks
in a dumpster, you can do seven

weeks in the Outback standing on
your head.

( applause )
>> GUMBEL: You know, we know the

answer to who was that mystery
woman, but let's take a look at

the monitors.
Who is this mystery woman?

( whooping )
Hello, Mama. Hello.

>> TINA: Bow-wow.
>> GUMBEL: Twice the weight now,

aren't you?
>> MARALYN: Yes, I am, Bryant.

>> GUMBEL: Hey, look, um, Keith
alluded to it earlier.

There are some relationships
here that have been formed that

are going to last for a long
time.

Uh, a lot of you wanted to be a
part of this reunion, but Debb,

you had some hesitations, didn't
you?

You weren't sure you wanted to
be a part of this reunion.

How come?
>> DEBB: I-I knew I didn't want

to be a part of it.
>> GUMBEL: How come?

>> DEBB: Well... I guess nobody
really got a chance to know me,

and then... and then, I got
home... and the press pretty

much tore me apart.
It hasn't been fun.

>> GUMBEL: Would you do it
again?

>> DEBB: No way.
>> GUMBEL: Bad trade: three days

in the Outback for your life
being exposed?

>> DEBB: Bad trade, bad trade,
but... you can't look back.

I mean, it's a done deal.
You've just got to move forward.

It's just, uh... I guess the
hard part is I'm strong.

I'm a very strong, independent
person, care about people a lot,

and... I seem to have, uh...
lost my belief in myself.

You know, but I-I will get it
back. I will.

>> GUMBEL: You already got it
back.

>> Debb, we love you.
>> GUMBEL: Captain Kel, what

>> Debb, we love you.
>> GUMBEL: Captain Kel, what

about you?
Um, I saw where you said you

will never-- accent on the
never-- forgive Jerri for what

she did. Why not?
Isn't life a little too short

for that?
>> KEL: I have forgiven Jerri.

I have... but I don't like her.
( laughter )

( cheering )
She'll never... well, she'll

never get a Christmas card from
me. Never.

>> GUMBEL: Um, I guess it's your
turn, Jerri.

>> JERRI: Well, I mean, I don't
ever expect in my life to have

everyone like me, but...
>> GUMBEL: There's a good bet.

( laughter )
>> JERRI: We're going to have

breakfast again.
>> GUMBEL: Yeah, I know, I know.

>> JERRI: No, I-I really don't.
And I... you know, the things

that happened out there are...
are so separate from... our

lives now, and... and I think
for some people, maybe it's

easier... to tell the
difference.

And... you know, I... I feel...
I feel bad, Kel, I do, that-that

you harbor resentment and hatred
towards me.

>> KEL: But you know, Jerri,
this is the first time you've

ever spoken to me.
This is the first time...

>> JERRI: That's what today is
for, for me.

I-I hope that that's kind of
what it's been for everyone, the

same way.
I've been talking to a lot of

people.
>> KEL: Like I've said, I've

forgiven you.
You're just not going to get

Christmas cards from me.
( laughter )

>> GUMBEL: Um, let's move on.
Alicia, you send a Chris... you

send a Christmas card to Kimmi?
Come on, now, we had the...

>> ALICIA: No.
>> GUMBEL: We had the head bob,

the head bob, and the finger
point and everything else.

Um, did you send a Christmas
card?

>> ALICIA: I'm famous for that
finger wave, man.

>> GUMBEL: Well, you know,
there's a couple of people who

saw it.
>> ALICIA: Just a few.

>> GUMBEL: Take a look.
We'll refresh everyone's memory.

Roll the tape, Al.
>> Whoa!

>> COLBY: Here we go again.
>> KIMMI: That's all I was

saying.
It's a good thing just to break

it up.
Especially...

>> ALICIA: But you are the
defensive one about the

chickens, not me, so do not yell
at me about the...

You can get as emotionally
attached if you want, because

the only reason why we said it
is 'cause we care about your

feelings.
You're part of this tribe.

But don't jump all over me,
sweetheart.

>> KIMMI: Don't wave your finger
my face.

>> ALICIA: I'll wave my finger
in your face.

You want me to say it in your
face?

I'd be happy to.
I'm saying it to your face right

now.
>> KIMMI: Thank you.

>> ALICIA: I'm tired of your ...
chicken.

>> GUMBEL: In this corner...
>> ALICIA: Whoo, yeah.

>> GUMBEL: Well, wait a second
now.

She called you.
>> ALICIA: Yeah, she did.

>> GUMBEL: Why didn't you call
her back?

>> ALICIA: Because, out of
everything that's happened to me

on this... in this game, on this
show, with all of these people,

that's the one really negative
thing.

And at that time, and-and what I
was doing at that point, I was

not ready to confront that.
I didn't want to confront the

negative thing.
I was having too much fun with

all the positive things, and,
uh, so I didn't call her back.

>> GUMBEL: And now?
>> ALICIA: It's all good.

( laughter )
Kimmi and I... like Kel said--

she's not going to get a
Christmas card from me.

We're never going to be, like,
best buddies.

I mean, we wouldn't have gotten
along no matter where we were,

but you know what?
These 16 people are so

incredibly amazing, and for me
to not hold close to my heart

everything that I've been
through, including-- got to love

you, Kimmi-- including that
whole episode with Kimmi-- I

mean, I can't walk away with
this harboring ill feelings

toward anybody or anything,
so...

>> GUMBEL: Well, that's good.
We like that.

Amber, you said that you were
good at hiding the fact that you

got annoyed easily.
Why'd you hide it?

>> AMBER: Because... I didn't
want to make it obvious to

anybody, 'cause then they might
hold a grudge against me and

vote me out earlier, you know?
Why would you want to show

somebody that you're annoyed
with them?

You want... you want them to
think that you like them.

>> GUMBEL: Jerri would say
that's just being honest.

>> JERRI: Yep.
And that's, for me, that's what

I found to be the way to keep my
sanity in that situation: was to

express it and get it out.
And I guess I just... I expected

it, as well, for other people to
do the same to me.

If somebody was irritated with
me, I would've been perfectly

fine with them bringing it up in
my face, getting it out on the

table and clearing it up.
>> KIMMI: Jerri, you saw what

happened, didn't you?
We tried that.

We tried that.
>> GUMBEL: Rodger went the

opposite route.
Rodger, I-I believe I read that

you said you went in there, uh,
attempting to not be mean, but

be straightforward and couldn't
bring yourself to do it.

>> RODGER: Well, I think I was
pretty straightforward.

I went in there with the
intentions of trying to play the

game, and, uh, that's the reason
I've got a lot of respect for

these two people that were in
the finals here tonight.

They were able to do something
that I wasn't able to do, and

that is actually play the game.
And, uh, I don't know that

that's really such a bad thing
in-in the, uh, the long run.

And, uh, I was satisfied with
the... with the-the place that I

finished.
And, uh, when I got off the

plane, first thing I told my
wife-- I said, "I didn't do

anything out there that I was
ashamed of," so...

>> GUMBEL: That's nice to hear.
And Keith, I can't let...

( applause )
>> GUMBEL: All right, we'll take

a break.
When we come back, we're going

to consider how the Outback
changed everyone and the life

lessons learned, but first,
we'll take a look at what's

happening tonight in Miami.
( cheering )

>> COLBY: And in college, I even
got on a bull or two.

>> Come on, Colby.
( applause and shouting )

>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
>> COLBY: Whoo!

( man shouts )
( audience applauding )

>> GUMBEL: Way to go, cowboy.
>> COLBY: Thank you.

>> GUMBEL: That wasn't your
first rodeo, I take it.

>> COLBY: No.
>> GUMBEL: No?

>> COLBY: No, sir.
>> GUMBEL: Uh, look, um, I've

been asking a lot of questions,
but some of the good folks who

are sitting out here have some.
And so, we'll ask this gentleman

to voice our first question from
the audience.

Yes, sir?
>> This is for Rodger.

How did you get the nerve to
jump off that cliff into that

water?
>> DEBB: That was a good move.

>> RODGER: Well, that... I
definitely was not going to let

my other tribe members down, and
for me personally, that was

probably the hardest thing that
I've ever had to do in my

lifetime.
I can't swim.

>> TRIBE MEMBERS: Come on,
Rodger!

>> NICK: The other thing was you
didn't see that we actually

pushed him.
( laughter )

>> GUMBEL: Yes, another question
over here.

Yes, ma'am?
>> Yeah, my question is for

Elisabeth.
As a fellow Rhode Islander, um,

there's some pretty scary and
amazing wildlife out there.

What was your most memorable or
maybe scariest encounter?

>> ELISABETH: Oh, gosh, uh...
I guess my... my most scary

encounter every day kind of
happened at night when you'd

have to use the latrine.
>> Oh, yeah.

>> ELISABETH: And I'm not going
to play tough.

I was scared to death because
you know what it is?

It's your imagination out there
that gets you because you know

they are.
You see them during the day--

you see a snake, you see a croc,
you see everything out there.

And when it's your time to be
alone with the dark, that's when

I got scared, 'cause every
noise, you're, like... you think

the worst.
So, I guess that would be it in

my most honest moment.
>> JEFF V.: Bryant, I would

escort her to the bathroom every
night, and I would, like...

Alicia would go with us.
>> ELISABETH: Buddy system,

absolutely.
>> JEFF V.: And I'd-I'd pinch

them on the leg at the bottom
and I'd scare them

intentionally.
>> ALICIA: He was the worst, the

worst.
>> ELISABETH: Did you hear that?

>> KEL: And Bryant, my most
scariest encounter has got to be

Jerri.
It's got to be, got to be...

( Survivors groaning )
>> GUMBEL: You know, you know...

I don't... I'm not... I'm not
going to belabor the hygiene

thing, but can I get a count?
How many toothbrushes were out

there?
>> ALL: One.

>> NICK: One after two weeks.
>> AMBER: After they won it.

>> KIMMI: On day 14.
>> JERRI: Zero for us at Ogakor.

>> COLBY: It had no bristles
after two days.

>> JERRI: Zero.
>> ELISABETH: No bristles.

>> GUMBEL: Oh, really?
>> KEITH: After Kucha got done

with it.
>> ELISABETH: We snacked on the

bristles.
>> GUMBEL: So what did we do,

brush our teeth with sand or
just don't-don't...?

( all talking at once )
>> ELISABETH: You kind of get

your shirt...
>> ALICIA: And you scrub your

teeth.
>> AMBER: Yeah, you wipe off the

plaque.
>> JERRI: The plaque wipe, the

daily plaque wipe.
>> GUMBEL: Nice, nice.

>> KIMMI: The nice pine trees.
>> NICK: This is why people were

nasty.
>> KIMMI: We didn't have any

good one, so we'd cut pine
needles.

>> NICK: This was why there was
no... this is why there was no.

( all talking at once )
>> ALICIA: Can we get back to

the nasty thing for a anyone?
Nick wants to say Elisabeth and

I were so nasty, but Nick kissed
me right on the lips.

>> ELISABETH: Yes, he did.
>> ALICIA: Hello. Did you not?

>> NICK: There's a long story to
that, but yes.

>> ALICIA: Right on the lips.
>> GUMBEL: Can you say it in

less than 30 seconds?
>> NICK: Right after the first

time we brushed our teeth...
>> KIMMI: Yeah, that's true.

>> NICK: ...Alicia was, like,
"I'm so clean, I'm so fresh, who

wants to kiss me?"
I said... phew... and laid one

on her, just like...
>> ELISABETH: He did!

>> GUMBEL: Hello! Jerri, why
didn't you try that?

>> NICK: They didn't have a...
>> JERRI: We didn't have a

toothbrush.
>> ALICIA: Yeah, they didn't...

>> JERRI: We were doing the
plaque rub.

I would have kissed him, anyway.
>> GUMBEL: I know. She kissed

you.
>> JERRI: Not for lack of

trying.
>> GUMBEL: We thought something

was wrong with you.
You said there was no

distractions out there.
How could you say there was no

distractions with these ladies
sitting here?

>> COLBY: Oh, it was... no.
It was distracting.

>> GUMBEL: Oh, okay.
>> COLBY: Early on more so than

later in the game.
>> GUMBEL: Oh!

>> COLBY: No, I mean just
because I finally just

determined it was time to get
focused.

>> GUMBEL: Gotcha.
( laughter )

I'm not going to pursue it.
>> COLBY: Hey!

>> GUMBEL ( chuckling ): Yes,
ma'am?

>> First of all, on behalf of
Reebok, congratulations, Tina.

My question is for Michael.
Michael, when you hunted and

killed the boar, why did you put
the blood around your eyes?

>> ALICIA: Yeah, Michael, why?
>> KIMMI: Psycho!

>> ALICIA: We're all wondering
that.

Tell us all; we want to know why
you did that.

>> MICHAEL: You know, it is on
the actual tape, but when I said

it, everyone forget about it
once I did that.

But I didn't want to tell the
other tribe that even catching a

boar was possible.
They kept saying, "We've got to

tell the other tribe, we've
gotta get the advantage."

And I kept saying no, but I got
outvoted six to one.

So, I said fine, if we're going
to tell them, this is how we

should go to the next challenge.
And I put the blood on my face

as a kind of a joke, saying
instead of wearing the war paint

that we sometimes wore, we would
go to the next challenge wearing

the pig's blood, and that would
be the way we would tell them.

>> KIMMI: Yeah, I was gonna do
that!

>> MICHAEL: It was just meant to
be with a joke, for Kimmi, for

Kimmi.
>> ALICIA: He's a little nutty,

this guy.
>> GUMBEL: Yeah. Let me, um...

Debb has already said
she wouldn't do it again.

Mitchell, what about you?
I mean, weren't you overmatched?

Is that fair to do say?
>> MITCHELL: I wouldn't do it...

I can put myself back in
those shoes, and I can realize

how much I suffered.
I could never go through it

again.
Honestly, for me, um, every day

I kept thinking, "When, when am
I going to be leaving?" you

know?
And as I made that final walk to

Tribal Council, I had no idea I
was leaving, and it was a huge

shock to me but a welcome one at
that point.

Yeah, and I'd also like to say
that, afterwards, I was able to

travel with Debb.
And I really got to know the

Debb that nobody else did and
found that she's a wonderful and

amazing woman, definitely.
>> DEBB: Thank you.

>> MITCHELL: You are.
( applause )

>> GUMBEL: As Mad Dog has so
often reminded us, this was a

g-a-m-e, after all.
Um, but as some of you have

noted, it is pretty life-
changing, too.

Um, Keith, you...
>> MARALYN: Bryant?

>> GUMBEL: Go ahead.
>> MARALYN: I've already

gone through the change of life.
( laughter and applause )

>> GUMBEL: Forgive us if we
don't pursue that, all right?

Keith, you talked about it being
a cleansing experience.

Cleansed of what? How so?
>> KEITH: Well, first, I have to

say that Jerri and I are in
counseling.

( laughing )
We're working out those issues.

You know, I'm now 41 years old.
And I'm divorced, have two

wonderful children, and I've had
failures and I've had, you know,

successes and stuff.
And the last few days for me

really enabled me to just
reflect.

I mean, how many times in your
life do you really have an

opportunity to sit and do
nothing but think-- with no

sounds, no one to talk to you or
nothing.

And those last few days, it was
very... a lot of solitude.

Especially me, I went up top of
this big hill and I just hung

out up there and watched the
eagles fly.

It was a big deal for me.
It gave me an opportunity to

see... say I'm sorry for a lot
of things to myself and say

let's do some things better.
So, for me, the game kind of

stopped at that point.
I was on to a whole new game,

all about life.
( applause )

>> GUMBEL: We're going to take a
break right here and come back

and do some more business.
We'll also let in you on the

secret of the next Survivor,
when the reunion continues.

But also a quick hand for our
live band over here, with David

Hudson on the didgeridoo.
( band playing Survivor theme )

( chanting )
>> ALICIA: Shh! Shh! Shh!

I think I hear something.
I got him. I got him.

( thud )
Whoo! I got him. I got him.

I told you.
( Gumbel laughs )

( applause )
>> ALICIA: That 'roo is up

there.
That kangaroo is up there in the

audience.
>> JEFF V.: That kangaroo is up

there.
>> GUMBEL: That kangaroo is in

the audience?
>> ALICIA: That kangaroo is

sitting right there in the blue
shirt.

Stand up, Peter.
Good jumping, babe, good

hopping.
( laughter and applause )

My kangaroo!
>> GUMBEL: Hey, look, the mud is

barely dry on the shoes of these
castaways.

In fact I'm not sure the sweat
is.

But plans are already underway
for the next Survivor challenge

coming this fall.
And if you thought snakes and

crocs were intimidating, wait
till you see what's waiting for

the next 16 Survivors, deep in
the heart of Africa.

Jeff Probst has a preview.
( drumbeat, chanting )

>> JEFF: It is the cradle of
civilization, the birthplace of

humanity.
This is Africa, and soon 16

strangers will embark on the
greatest adventure of their

lives.
They will voluntarily be

stranded in this land of
stunning beauty, incredible

vistas and breathtaking scenery.
But don't be fooled.

It is also a land of inherent
dangers filled with exotic and

deadly animals.
But it is not impossible to

thrive out here.
The Masai have survived for

centuries by simply learning to
adapt to their environment.

By becoming one with the land,
they have learned to live in one

of the most hostile settings on
Earth.

How will these 16 new Survivors
fare in this dangerous

wilderness, and more
importantly, how will they

survive each other?
( growls )

The continent may have changed,
but the game is still the same:

outwit, outplay, outlast until
only one remains and emerges

as the sole Survivor.
( cheers and applause )

>> ALICIA: That's gonna be good.
I wanna go!

>> GUMBEL: That African
adventure begins this fall.

And your advice to those people
going to Africa, Colby, would

be...?
>> COLBY: Expect the absolute

worst.
>> GUMBEL: Really?

>> COLBY: Honestly, yeah.
You're going to be really

shocked if you don't.
>> NICK: It's not...

>> GUMBEL: Good advice.
>> NICK: It's not fun.

>> GUMBEL: Let me ask a
question.

We've now gone about, oh, 53
minutes into this program, and

we haven't made any comparisons
between your group and the prior

group, intentionally.
But one thing did strike me.

The first group had a series of
philosophical discussions about

religion, about children out of
wedlock, about sexual

orientation, about family, a
variety of subjects.

Your group never did.
>> AMBER AND JERRI: Yeah, we

did.
>> GUMBEL: At least we never saw

it...
>> ELISABETH: We did.

>> ALL: You didn't see it.
>> GUMBEL: Ah...

>> MICHAEL: There was just too
much other stuff going around.

>> JERRI: One of the many
moments that didn't make the

show.
>> ELISABETH: No, I can honestly

say, as well, we had discussions
but they weren't for the sake of

having them either.
Like, when we had them, they

just... they just happened.
And if they were caught, they

were caught.
And if they weren't, they

weren't, but...
>> GUMBEL: Spirited discussions?

>> ELISABETH: Yes.
>> GUMBEL: Oh.

>> DEBB: Kucha had a two-hour
spirited discussion on farting

my first night.
( laughing )

>> ELISABETH: We did!
>> GUMBEL: I-I don't think we

can say that.
I think we have to say "bilabial

fricative..." on television.
>> ELISABETH: That sounds

disgusting.
>> GUMBEL: Thank you.

>> ALICIA: Yeah, that sounds
worse.

>> MICHAEL: Hey, Bryant, you
focused a lot on a lot of the

negative and fighting
relationships that went on, but

some of the relationships that
were formed as a result of the

show... I mean, I never knew
Keith Famie from Detroit, and I

never even met him out in the
Outback, and I never met Tina

out there, and those are two of
the best friends that I have

from this show, it's just...
The bond that we created as

a part of this show...
I mean, there was a couple of

isolated fights that went on,
but I mean, everybody...

>> GUMBEL: We know Rodger and
Elisabeth...

>> MICHAEL: Everybody here.
>> GUMBEL: ...formed a bond.

>> MICHAEL: Look at these two.
>> GUMBEL: Jeff and Alicia...

>> ALICIA: Jeff and I are
inseparable.

>> GUMBEL: ...are virtually
inseparable.

>> ALICIA: We're inseparable.
>> GUMBEL: Kel and Jerri, um...

( laughing )
>> KEL: Wait...

>> GUMBEL: And Tina, you were
going to tell me... you told me

during the commercial you had a
quick story to tell about Mr.

Varner back here.
>> TINA: Yes, I do.

I started out really thinking he
was a player, you know.

He was a sweet guy who brought
this coloring book to give to

charity, and he was this really
compassionate guy.

I later found out the night that
we voted him off at Tribal

Council, he suspected he was
going to go.

Well, we had caught 13 fish that
day.

We were all going to get a fish
of our very own.

>> ALICIA: That's... What?!
>> TINA: We had the fish, we did

not get a chance to cook them.
So we put them on a stringer in

the water.
We came back that night

starving, going to eat our fish.
They were gone, and we said,

"The crocs or the alligators
have eaten our fish."

Jeff!
( everyone talking at once )

( audience applauding )
>> AMBER: Did you know that?

>> ELISABETH: Jeff!
>> AMBER: Eww!

>> TINA: Evil! Evil!
>> RODGER: You dog, you.

>> GUMBEL: Hey, look, as we head
to commercial break, what did

you do on your vacation?
Show us, Mad Dog.

Show us what you learned.
>> COLBY: Hit it.

>> JEFF V.: Break it on down,
mama.

( blowing didgeridoo )
>> MITCHELL: Yeah!

( applause and cheering )
>> All right.

( audience whooping )
>> GUMBEL: We're going to take a

break right here.
But as-as we head to commercial,

Elisabeth, here's something
you'll want to see.

Take a look at what's happening
tonight in your hometown of

Boston, where a big Survivor
party is underway celebrating

the achievement of one of
Boston's own.

>> ELISABETH: Basically, for
quite some time now, all I can

think about in the car is being
a Survivor, and there are a

couple of things that I think
decisions can be made on.

Not potholes.
( applause )

>> GUMBEL: We've only got about
30 seconds left.

Um, Tina, you had the first
word, you get the last one.

Um, just answer us one thing: we
saw the sweet motherly Tina out

there, and we saw the one who
was described as, by someone in

this crowd as "ruthless."
Which is the real Tina?

>> TINA: In the middle.
A little of both.

You've got to have a good
balance in life.

>> GUMBEL: And that's what got
you the million?

>> TINA: Uh... a lot of luck, a
lot of luck got a million.

>> GUMBEL: Congratulations.
>> TINA: Thank you so much.

( applause and cheering )
>> GUMBEL: Tonight was the first

time in a long time that these
16 Survivors have all been

together, but it won't be the
last.

They'll be joining me tomorrow
on The Early Show where, among

other things, we'll present Tina
with her million-dollar check

for becoming the one Survivor
who managed to outwit, outplay

and outlast in the Outback.
Exactly why the actions of all

these people have captivated so
many remains a point of debate,

a mystery perhaps better left to
psychologists.

We only know they've played a
game amid the worst of elements

with millions watching and
millions judging their

character.
That they've emerged with as

much dignity as they have is no
small feat.

On behalf of these 16 now
familiar people, thank you very

much for being a part of this
reunion.

In every way, the tribe has
spoken.

I'm Bryant Gumbel.
Good night.

( applause and cheering )