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Someone once asked me:
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"Why don't you write your biography?"
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I replied: "Because fucking Virginia Woolf
wrote my biography in 1928."
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I'm sorry I said
"fucking" Virginia Woolf.
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I said it
with tenderness and admiration
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because your writing seemed
impossible to surpass.
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But also,
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I say it with rage
because you represented us trans people
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as aristocrats in colonial England,
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who, one fine day, wake up
in a woman's body.
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You didn't know, perhaps,
this was not how one became trans.
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It was much more difficult.
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We risk our lives every time.
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And I wanted to write to tell you
I am one of your Orlandos.
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I am alive.
I came out of your fiction.
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The contemporary world
is full of Orlandos.
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ORLANDO, WHERE ARE YOU?
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We're changing
the course of history.
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HAVE YOU SEEN ORLANDO?
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FROM LOVE THEY HAD SUFFERED
THE TORTURES OF THE DAMNED
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So I decided to write
a letter to you,
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who had written thousands of letters
and received thousands more.
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I might as well write you a letter
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now you are,
in the organic sense, dead,
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even though, in inorganic terms,
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you have never been
as alive as now.
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It's one of the things
I've learned from reading you:
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life begins before we are born
and, of course, ends long after we die.
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So, just as you wrote my biography
before I was born,
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I decided to send you a letter
after your death.
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Dear Virginia,
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I'm writing to you
as I think I'm your Orlando.
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We should meet.
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I feel I'm changing fast,
So don't delay.
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I'd like to show you
all my metamorphoses and crash tests.
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I'm Janis Sahraoui.
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In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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I love my name.
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It is very important to me and...
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My mother gave it to me,
I'm very attached to her.
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I lost my mother
when I was a child, at 7.
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And it's something I really want to keep
from her. It's something that's...
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important to me,
because I know she chose my name.
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I like the way it sounds.
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There is something very musical
and even very non-binary, in fact.
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I'm Oscar Rosza Miller.
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In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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Orlando,was a name friends wanted
to give me when I started
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my gender transition.
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I didn't feel capable
of bearing this name.
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Perhaps I was held back by the
aristocratic semblance of the character,
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by the English thickness of his blood,
by his pale face and blond curls...
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Nothing could be further
from the existence
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of the son of a garage owner
and a seamstress
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in an anonymous town in the north
of Spain than the life of Orlando,
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inspired by your lover
Vita Sackville-West.
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Maybe that's why I called myself
Paul and not Orlando.
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Would you tell me the story
of Orlando by Virginia Woolf?
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Orlando is a young boy, a teenager,
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and at the end of the book,
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it's a woman in her thirties.
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Well, this person changes bodies
in the middle of the book.
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Oh, yeah?
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We don't know
how long this person will live
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because we go through centuries
during the book,
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while Orlando is only 30.
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It's inspired
by a person who really existed.
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Oh, OK.
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The girlfriend
of the chick who wrote it.
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Turn your face.
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- You're a bit of an Orlando.
- Yeah!
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You too!
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We all have a bit of Orlando in us.
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This is the child Orlando.
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Now I define myself
as a non-binary person,
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but I consider myself changing.
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Their style was not similar
to that of men of letters of their time,
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nor to that of the women.
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There can be no doubt
about my sex...
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though the fashion of my time
disguises it.
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The clothes, my whole corporality is very
important as the way I want to be seen...
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it's really not like a man
or a woman.
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Around the fact
that Orlando is transitioning,
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it's not stigmatized in the book...
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It's beautiful to see it
like that because...
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Actually, this is not the point...
You just let it flow.
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It's just a person
who unfolds their life.
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To have written this at that time,
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it's incredible.
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And it's also an extremely feminist book.
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It's also a big "fuck you"
to the patriarchy!
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He never loses, or she never loses,
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the connection to nature
and their love for...
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for trees. There's a real sensitivity.
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I took my first hormones in a park.
I was in a park in Paris
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and I sat down and meditated.
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and I was surrounded by nature
next to my house
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and it felt good. I said to myself
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that I wanted this moment
to be important.
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This was the first image
I wanted to keep,
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so it's funny to be here.
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I love to feel...
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beneath all this summer transiency,
the earth's spine beneath me.
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I lean against it
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for the hard root of the oak trée
is that to me;
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it is the back of a great horse
that I ride...
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Or the deck of a tumbling ship -
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it is anything indeed hard,
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for I feel the need of something
which I could attach my floating heart to.
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This heart that tugs at my side:
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this heart
filled with spiced, amorous gales
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every evening
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about this time
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when I walk out.
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I tie it to the oak tree...
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and as I lay here,
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gradually the flutter
in and about me stills itself;
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the little leaves hang.
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The deer stops;
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the pale summer clouds stay;
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my limbs grow heavy
on the ground,
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and I lay so still
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that by degrees the deer steps nearer
and the rooks wheel round me
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and the swallows dip and circle
and the dragonflies shoot past,
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as if all the fertility and amorous
activity of a summer's evening
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weaves its web about my body.
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My taste is broad, I love flowers,
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simple flowers,
the wild have a fascination for me.
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I love solitary places,
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vast views,
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and the charm of feeling
for ever and ever and ever alone.
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When I was a child,
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I remember
never being able to choose
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and I think
that feeling stayed with me.
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I don't want to choose
one thing or another,
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I want to be able to make
an explosive mix.
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That's always been the case.
I think that this thing
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that my parents call "phases”,
or what I like to call
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passages of my life, are epochs.
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Life is not at all like a biography.
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It is not a series of episodes
or sentimental adventures
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or descriptive scenes
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or even the servitude of daily existence.
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But it consists
in the metamorphosis of oneself,
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letting oneself be transformed by time,
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becoming not only other,
but others.
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In your novel,
at certain moments in the story,
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driven by extreme suffering,
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Orlando sleeps for a week,
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a month, a year...
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That is how Orlando
crosses the centuries.
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I remember reading your novel
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before I knew
that sex change really existed,
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or at least before I met someone
who had gone, through it
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when I was 14 or 15.
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In your book, Orlando’s sex change
happens in his sleep.
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I thought that if it happened to Orlando,
maybe it could also happen to me.
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Then sleep became for me
the magical realm in which
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the gender transition took place.
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Perhaps this explains
why I sleep so much and so well.
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That's why nights have become
silent waiting rooms
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in which, immersed in my thoughts,
I wait for the change to take place.
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I imagined the beds as a dreamlike,
painless operating table
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where my lying body
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was re-coded.
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I believed
sleep could act on the body
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like a chemical process
acts on an element.
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I thought sleep was like freezing,
or like evaporation:
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a process that induces a change in form
but not in meaning.
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There are parts of Orlando's life,
dear Virginia, that you forgot to tell.
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So I have to tell you about them
if I am to make their biography,
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that is to say, my biography.
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You write about the meeting
of Orlando and Queen Elizabeth
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as a confrontation between Orlando's
free, poetic and still childish spirit
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and the violence of the imperial power.
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But you forgot to mention
a second, equally important confrontation.
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From the 19th century on, those who,
like Orlando, cross gender boundaries,
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are confronted
with the power of psychiatry.
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Look at your Orlandos...
They did not live
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as aristocrats or poets,
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they were reduced
to being patients of psychiatry.
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You also knew a lot about psychiatry.
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You were like us, asylum fodder.
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Not as a trans person, or as a lesbian
(you were in the closet about that)
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but as a great melancholic.
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Look, that one is me.
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I too ended up in a psychiatrist's office
for the first time at 14,
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when my parents realized that I was...
They used to say
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"too masculine a woman".
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Then I had to go back again when I wanted
to get a legal gender change.
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That's what you didn't say.
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Neither in "Orlando”
nor in "A Room of One's Own".
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You were one of us.
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Orlando.
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Orlando Kristin, please.
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Yes, that's me.
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I'm Liz Kristin.
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In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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I'm Frédéric Pierrot. In this film
I'll be Dr. Queen, a psychiatrist.
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Please sit down.
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Before we start,
I must inform you that there will be
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an additional fee of 80 euros,
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compared to the rates
covered by the social security.
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No checks or credit cards.
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Yes, I know.
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Very well.
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So, you were sent by your mother.
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According to her, you persist
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in dressing as a girl and talking
about yourself in the feminine.
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Yes, I had a fight with her.
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The question I ask myself is:
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How and for what reason
did you believe yourself...
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How can I put it?
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...authorized
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to wear a skirt as a young man?
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I am not a man.
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So you're a woman?
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I wouldn't exactly say that either.
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But what is really your sex?
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There's no doubt about my sex
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though the fashion of my time
disguises it.
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Would you say
your father is masculine?
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Yes, very masculine.
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He went on the crusades
and brought back a lot of Moorish heads.
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Indeed.
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So he is not the problem,
you do not identify with him?
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No.
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So you have a female identification.
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You think... you feel
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confined,
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trapped, locked up
in your male body, right?
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What an obsession with the binary.
No, I am...
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a living body
trapped in a normative regime.
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Sorry. I don't understand.
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I will try to ask you
a more direct question.
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Do you hate your sexual organs,
for example, your penis?
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No, I have a female penis
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and I have no problem with that.
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A female penis...?
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Interesting...
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But you must be talking about a fantasy,
not a biological reality.
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Is your sperm female?
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Of course.
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Organs and body fluids
are neither male nor female.
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The discourse of sexual binarism
is an invention of modernity.
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Well, do you often have
these kinds of ideas, or thoughts?
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When reading poetry...
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I think I suffer from...
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literature-sickness.
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Poetry...?
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Fascinating.
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Well, we'll look at all that in detail.
Follow me.
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Does anyone want one?
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I do.
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Yes, I do.
I'm waiting for a prescription.
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So be careful what you say to him,
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because Dr. Queen is very strict.
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If you tell him
you're non-binary,
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he'll send you home
with a kick in the ass
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and no pills.
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You have to tell him
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that you hate your genitals
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and you want to be a straight woman.
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But I don't!
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- Do you want your pills or not?
- Yes.
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So shut your mouth
and act like a good girl.
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You must be freaking out, Virginia,
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seeing your Orlandos
exchanging hormones.
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You know, in the 20th century,
just after you died,
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horrfiones started to be marketed
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by the pharmacological industry,
but not just for us
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trans people,
but mostly for the birth control pill.
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The hormones for trans women and
those for the pill are exactly the same.
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The only difference is
that, for cis heterosexual women,
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the prescription is automatic,
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whereas, for trans women,
it depends on a psychiatric diagnosis.
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Anyone want some 17?
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Well, yeah, I do.
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I've waited 2 months
for my prescription.
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- Shall I give you an injection?
- Yeah.
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- A little 1507
- Yeah.
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OK...
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Drop your pants, my little darling.
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OK?
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Here goes...
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Look, bitch, this little shit
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Do you want to know what's in it?
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Your Liberation!
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Don't let Freud, don't let Lacan
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Get in your dreams and your mind fuck
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Who owns your history?
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God? The state? Psychiatry? The law?
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The corporations?
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Anyone but you!
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It's time to bite
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You might be synthetic, but not apologetic
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You are not the doctor's bitch
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You might be synthetic, but not apologetic
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You are not the doctor's bitch
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Their categories are pathetic
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You are much more poetic
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Prosthetic but magnetic
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You are not the doctor's bitch
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Look, Virginia
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What we have become!
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Do you want to come with us?
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Pharmacoliberation
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They say you are dysphoric
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But it's just metaphoric
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They protect their privileges
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They are scared of beauty
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I am your Orlando, Virginia
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Do you really think
that I could ever, ever live like this?
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Pharmacoliberation
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Faced with the task
of telling my biography,
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I find myself in the position you were in
when you wanted to do Orlando's biography
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How to film the biography
of a trans person today?
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Or to put it another way,
how to construct an Orlandoesque life,
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a life of a gender poet in the midst
of a binary and normative society?
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I agree with you,
fiction is not opposed to truth,
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and every individual life
is a collective history.
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I'm Ruben Rizza. In this film
I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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The Great Frost was the most severe
that has ever visited these islands.
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Birds froze in mid-air
and fell like stones to the ground.
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The mortality among sheep
and cattle was enormous.
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Corpses froze
and could not be drawn from the sheets.
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But while the country people
suffered the extremity of want,
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and all trade was at a standstill,
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London enjoyed a carnival
of the utmost brilliancy.
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Your Orlando, Virginia, is a book
about the metamorphosis of subjectivity,
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not only about sex change.
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The first revolutionary metamorphosis
is poetry,
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the possibility of changing
the names of all things,
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including the proper name.
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The second and most profound
metamorphosis is love.
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That's why Orlando falls in love
with the arrival of the Great Frost
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and the transformation
of the state of water,
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the most essential of the elements,
into ice.
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Your book was also a love letter to Vita,
who was your lover for some months.
340
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When you met her,
she was a successful writer,
341
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and you, too experimental
were editor.
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For you, she was elusive.
343
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Rlch heiress
of an aristocratic lineage
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and marred woman
with multiple lesbian adventures,
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she would break your girly heart.
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Poetic justice Orlando would become
your first great literary success
347
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and a scandalous book
that Vita's family would try to ban.
348
00:24:55,031 --> 00:24:57,890
At night, the carnival
was at its merriest.
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The moon and stars blazed
with the hard fixity of diamonds,
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and to the fine music
of flute and trumpet,
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the courtiers danced.
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I had just brought my feet together
when I beheld, coming from the pavilion
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of the Muscovite Embassy,
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a figure,
which, whether boy's or woman's,
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for the loose tunic and Russian trousers
disguised the sex,
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filled me with the highest curiosity.
357
00:25:31,656 --> 00:25:36,061
The person, whatever the sex,
was of medium height,
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very slenderly fashioned
and dressed in oyster-coloured velvet,
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trimmed with unfamiliar green fur.
360
00:25:43,682 --> 00:25:48,336
When the boy,
for-alas, a boy it must be
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no woman could skate
with such speed and vigour
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swept almost on tiptoe past me,
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I was ready
to tear my hair with vexation.
364
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,347
If the stranger was a man,
all embraces were out of the question.
365
00:26:04,878 --> 00:26:06,174
They came closer.
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Legs, hands, carriage were a boy's,
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but no boy ever had a mouth like that;
368
00:26:14,903 --> 00:26:17,363
no boy had such a chest;
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no boy had eyes which looked
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as if fished from the seabed.
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Finally, coming to a stop
and sweeping a curtsey
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with the utmost grace to the King,
who was shuffling past, they stopped.
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They were not a handsbreadth off.
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I contemplated them, I trembled,
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I was hot, then cold,
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00:26:42,959 --> 00:26:46,372
I burned to leap
in the burning breaths of the summer,
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00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:49,899
to crush acorns,
to embrace chains and paddles.
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00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,729
I decided to name him or her
Sasha
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after a white fox I had as a child.
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00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:04,113
I'm Castiel Emery. In this film
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00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:07,225
I'll be Sasha
from Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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00:27:07,325 --> 00:27:11,979
Growing up, I had a lot of dysphoria...
But I wasn't sure if it was
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gender dysphoria or if it was
just that I didn't like my body,
384
00:27:16,898 --> 00:27:19,231
like most teenagers.
385
00:27:19,256 --> 00:27:20,389
I was 7 years old.
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00:27:20,675 --> 00:27:25,594
As a child, I didn't really understand,
because I think I wasn't mature enough
387
00:27:25,641 --> 00:27:28,408
to comprehend
what was happening to me.
388
00:27:28,433 --> 00:27:32,921
But I was always in the in-between,
whether it was in my clothes,
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00:27:32,946 --> 00:27:36,943
my toys, my friendships, everything,
390
00:27:37,109 --> 00:27:41,264
I was always in-between.
Even I felt in-between because
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I was told "You're a girl”,
so I thought "I'm a girl”...
392
00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:50,622
but I thought: "I'm not totally a girl
but I don't know what else."
393
00:27:50,647 --> 00:27:54,370
No-one ever said to me:
"Yes, you have gender dysphoria,
394
00:27:54,395 --> 00:27:57,885
I'm diagnosing you
as transgender, transsexual.”
395
00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:01,523
On the contrary,
I've had shrinks tell me:
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00:28:01,548 --> 00:28:05,314
"No, it's just a phase, you're a woman,
I know that."
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00:28:05,339 --> 00:28:08,597
I started to feel bad about myself,
398
00:28:08,622 --> 00:28:13,346
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror,
I couldn't stand myself.
399
00:28:13,449 --> 00:28:16,739
I was very angry,
but we didn't know why.
400
00:28:16,766 --> 00:28:22,531
So, I saw several specialists,
psychologists, psychiatrists.
401
00:28:22,623 --> 00:28:28,207
At first, they told me it was because
of my weight. I was an overweight child.
402
00:28:28,267 --> 00:28:32,411
They said: "Hide the cookies,
your child will get better."
403
00:28:32,436 --> 00:28:35,274
I've been trying
to- take hormones since 2017
404
00:28:35,356 --> 00:28:39,875
and I still can't. I tried to go
through the public health sector.
405
00:28:39,982 --> 00:28:44,456
But they thought
I was too feminine in my clothing style,
406
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:48,611
because I wear jewelry,
I'm not a man.
407
00:28:48,777 --> 00:28:54,123
I started the puberty blocker treatment
when I was 11
408
00:28:54,148 --> 00:28:58,612
because I started my female puberty,
and it was really painful
409
00:28:58,698 --> 00:29:04,230
because I was seeing my body change,
like absolutely... I wanted the opposite.
410
00:29:04,255 --> 00:29:07,825
I saw I was getting breasts and hips
and I didn't want that.
411
00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:12,445
So I was put on a hormone blocker
treatment for 3 years.
412
00:29:12,512 --> 00:29:15,998
I started testosterone
in July, so 8 months ago.
413
00:29:16,068 --> 00:29:18,994
The top surgery really liberated me.
414
00:29:19,127 --> 00:29:23,209
It let me play more
with my clothing style,
415
00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:26,789
and with my way of being, in fact.
416
00:29:26,814 --> 00:29:28,476
It opened something up.
417
00:29:28,501 --> 00:29:31,966
I think the hormones will have
exactly the same effect.
418
00:29:31,991 --> 00:29:36,504
So I think it'll have
even more of an effect.
419
00:29:36,694 --> 00:29:38,032
I was so happy!
420
00:29:38,057 --> 00:29:42,293
It was everything I wanted for 4-5 years.
I dreamed of it every night.
421
00:29:42,318 --> 00:29:45,669
At the beginning of my transition,
I had the impression
422
00:29:45,694 --> 00:29:47,789
that I had to prove my masculinity,
423
00:29:47,814 --> 00:29:51,878
so I did everything
to be extremely male:
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00:29:51,903 --> 00:29:56,955
with very dark clothes,
I walked in a caricatured way,
425
00:29:57,088 --> 00:29:59,932
rolling my shoulders like that,
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00:29:59,957 --> 00:30:02,929
I spoke with a very deep voice,
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00:30:02,954 --> 00:30:05,547
I had an angry look
428
00:30:05,572 --> 00:30:09,894
to have a very masculine appearance.
429
00:30:09,919 --> 00:30:15,371
And in fact, after about a year -
I did it for a year -
430
00:30:15,537 --> 00:30:18,903
I realized
it was ridiculous because...
431
00:30:18,928 --> 00:30:24,422
masculinity can come
in many different forms.
432
00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:28,991
I still have a long way to go
because I'm still young, I'm only 15,
433
00:30:29,016 --> 00:30:35,133
but it's true that I've already had
a great journey with masculinity.
434
00:30:35,158 --> 00:30:39,213
I still have dysphoria
about other things...
435
00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:45,836
Yes! But top surgery has helped me
so much. Sometimes I see I don't feel well
436
00:30:45,861 --> 00:30:48,720
and I just remember
that I had top surgery,
437
00:30:48,745 --> 00:30:53,839
I run a hand over my chest or see myself
in a T-shirt, it changes everything.
438
00:30:53,864 --> 00:30:57,916
Today I define myself as a trans boy
and not just as a boy.
439
00:30:57,941 --> 00:31:00,368
It's true that a lot of people ask me:
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00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:03,055
"Why don't you just say
you're a boy?"
441
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,843
But when I just present myself as a boy,
I erase all that I lived
442
00:31:07,868 --> 00:31:13,327
as a trans person and...
it deletes a part of my history,
443
00:31:13,352 --> 00:31:16,739
so I prefer to present myself
as a trans boy.
444
00:31:16,845 --> 00:31:22,139
I feel that, in our society today,
there is a lot of emphasis on love...
445
00:31:22,917 --> 00:31:28,126
on romantic love,
for a couple two people, exclusivity,
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00:31:28,151 --> 00:31:32,000
leading to a future
where you live together, with children,
447
00:31:32,025 --> 00:31:35,771
and that's not at all what attracts me.
448
00:31:35,796 --> 00:31:39,242
It was with a person called Sasha
449
00:31:39,683 --> 00:31:42,710
who I met in a demonstration.
450
00:31:43,114 --> 00:31:46,970
And it's true that it was weird because...
451
00:31:47,682 --> 00:31:49,991
when I was younger,
452
00:31:50,129 --> 00:31:52,090
a year or two ago,
453
00:31:52,684 --> 00:31:56,607
everything to do with the other
and above all, with love...
454
00:31:56,632 --> 00:32:01,765
I had the impression that as long as
I hadn't finished my transition,
455
00:32:01,790 --> 00:32:03,741
and wasn't at ease with myself,
456
00:32:03,766 --> 00:32:08,534
It wasn't a good idea
to want to be with someone else...
457
00:32:09,089 --> 00:32:14,893
because I wouldn't be mature enough
within myself
458
00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:19,907
and I wouldn't have the right
to do that. But I totally do.
459
00:32:20,325 --> 00:32:24,718
And on top of that,
Sasha, who is also a trans boy,
460
00:32:25,051 --> 00:32:30,546
made me... feel understood very quickly,
461
00:32:30,571 --> 00:32:35,224
I felt supported very quickly
by a person I didn't know.
462
00:32:35,284 --> 00:32:38,457
It was one of the first times.
463
00:32:38,648 --> 00:32:43,662
3 girls were hitting on me -
Clorinda, Favilla, and Euphrosyne -
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00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,516
all very feminine,
very binary, very straight...
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00:32:47,683 --> 00:32:49,777
which I'm not.
466
00:32:50,774 --> 00:32:56,458
All would have made perfect wives
for the nobleman I was supposed to be,
467
00:32:56,804 --> 00:32:59,497
but I wasn't interested in them.
468
00:33:00,414 --> 00:33:05,195
Lawyers were already doing
marriage contracts
469
00:33:05,633 --> 00:33:10,987
with Lady Margaret,
then came the Great Frost.
470
00:33:51,207 --> 00:33:56,658
Like Orlando, I too fell in love
for the first time on a snowy day.
471
00:33:56,966 --> 00:33:59,093
I kissed a girl in the cold,
472
00:33:59,118 --> 00:34:02,617
the warmth of her mouth entered mine.
473
00:34:02,974 --> 00:34:05,933
I have never loved anyone
like I love you.
474
00:34:06,165 --> 00:34:07,761
You are snow,
475
00:34:07,894 --> 00:34:09,157
cream,
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00:34:09,323 --> 00:34:10,586
marble,
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00:34:10,852 --> 00:34:12,149
cherries,
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00:34:12,448 --> 00:34:13,944
you are alabaster,
479
00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:15,905
golden wire
480
00:34:16,404 --> 00:34:17,933
and none of these.
481
00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:21,323
You are an olive tree
and a fox in the snow,
482
00:34:21,822 --> 00:34:24,049
you are a melon, a pine cone,
483
00:34:24,415 --> 00:34:25,911
you are spring,
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00:34:26,576 --> 00:34:27,905
you are an emerald,
485
00:34:28,637 --> 00:34:31,794
you are the waves of the sea
seen from a clifftop,
486
00:34:31,961 --> 00:34:35,617
you are the sun on a green hill
which is yet clouded.
487
00:34:57,091 --> 00:35:00,349
But you noticed
that I am neither a boy nor a girl.
488
00:35:00,482 --> 00:35:01,512
Yes.
489
00:35:01,678 --> 00:35:04,670
You're like nothing I've ever met before
490
00:35:05,302 --> 00:35:06,997
and that's why I love you.
491
00:35:13,978 --> 00:35:15,407
You know that...
492
00:35:15,926 --> 00:35:17,455
if I stay here
493
00:35:17,634 --> 00:35:19,728
I'll have to marry Lady Margaret,
494
00:35:20,499 --> 00:35:21,662
so...
495
00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:23,518
let's leave together.
496
00:35:24,077 --> 00:35:25,672
you run away with me?
497
00:35:26,544 --> 00:35:28,140
Yes, yes.
498
00:35:28,804 --> 00:35:32,028
I'll come to meet you
tomorrow at midnight.
499
00:35:33,059 --> 00:35:35,053
It will be the day of my life.
500
00:35:46,321 --> 00:35:47,786
Long before midnight,
501
00:35:48,309 --> 00:35:49,838
I was already waiting...
502
00:35:53,714 --> 00:35:55,744
listening for the slightest step,
503
00:35:56,234 --> 00:35:58,129
speculating on every sound.
504
00:35:58,754 --> 00:36:03,209
I was waiting for Sasha to come alone
in her cloak and trousers,
505
00:36:03,681 --> 00:36:05,210
Booted like a man.
506
00:36:13,223 --> 00:36:19,031
Suddenly I was struck in the face
by a blow, soft, yet heavy,
507
00:36:19,118 --> 00:36:20,713
on the side of my cheek.
508
00:36:21,332 --> 00:36:25,886
So tense was my expectation that I jumped
and put my hand to my sword.
509
00:36:26,537 --> 00:36:30,061
The blow was repeated a dozen times
on forehead and cheek.
510
00:36:31,066 --> 00:36:33,127
The dry frost had lasted so long
511
00:36:33,152 --> 00:36:36,976
that it took me a minute to realize
they were raindrops.
512
00:36:38,308 --> 00:36:41,565
At first, they fell slowly,
513
00:36:41,710 --> 00:36:42,940
deliberately,
514
00:36:43,272 --> 00:36:44,502
one by one.
515
00:36:44,902 --> 00:36:48,093
But soon the six drops became sixty;
516
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:49,806
then six hundred;
517
00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:54,506
then ran themselves together
in a steady spout of water.
518
00:36:55,238 --> 00:36:58,629
It was as if
the hard and consolidated sky
519
00:36:58,781 --> 00:37:01,540
poured itself forth
in one profuse fountain.
520
00:37:24,252 --> 00:37:27,346
I knew then
that Sasha was not coming.
521
00:37:50,154 --> 00:37:52,082
When the dawn broke,
522
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,103
a sight of the most extraordinary nature
met my eyes.
523
00:37:57,050 --> 00:38:01,139
Where, for three months,
there had been solid ice
524
00:38:01,164 --> 00:38:04,355
of such thickness
that it seemed permanent as stone
525
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:07,571
and on this pavement
a whole gay city rose.
526
00:38:08,295 --> 00:38:11,453
There was now a race
of turbulent yellow waters.
527
00:38:11,952 --> 00:38:14,943
The river had gained its freedom
in the night.
528
00:38:15,442 --> 00:38:18,002
All was riot and confusion.
529
00:38:19,617 --> 00:38:22,542
The river, strewn with icebergs,
530
00:38:23,295 --> 00:38:25,123
was melting.
531
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,490
In the summer that followed
that winter famous for its disasters,
532
00:38:36,704 --> 00:38:40,195
for the frost,
the floods, the arrival of viruses,
533
00:38:40,447 --> 00:38:44,170
the death of thousands of creatures,
and the collapse of Orlando's hopes,
534
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:46,438
for they were exiled from Court,
535
00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:50,888
held in deep disgrace
by the greatest names of their time.
536
00:38:50,913 --> 00:38:56,397
In that summer, therefore, Orlando retired
to their knightly house in the country
537
00:38:56,556 --> 00:38:59,787
and lived there in total solitude.
538
00:39:01,749 --> 00:39:05,073
Orlando was not only suffering
from their breakup with Sasha,
539
00:39:05,272 --> 00:39:08,172
but also from the solitude, shame,
540
00:39:08,197 --> 00:39:11,031
and rejection
caused by their difference.
541
00:39:11,056 --> 00:39:14,576
Orlando understood
that their non-binary condition
542
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,970
could not be explained
by the family heritage.
543
00:39:18,137 --> 00:39:20,339
He had to go down into the crypt
544
00:39:20,463 --> 00:39:25,218
where, at the bottom of the coffins,
piled up one on top of the other,
545
00:39:25,283 --> 00:39:29,738
generations of unknown and forgotten
ancestors lay side by side.
546
00:39:52,209 --> 00:39:56,996
They found a strange charm
in the thoughts of death and corruption.
547
00:39:58,059 --> 00:39:59,809
During these melancholic moments,
548
00:39:59,888 --> 00:40:04,006
Orlando saw the skull
as an operator of the mutation.
549
00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:07,215
To look at oneself in a skull
as in a mirror is
550
00:40:07,262 --> 00:40:09,528
to make a deep portrait of oneself
551
00:40:09,661 --> 00:40:14,946
that takes into account the temporal and
almost geological dimension of each life.
552
00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:17,867
The skull is the universal mask.
553
00:40:19,267 --> 00:40:21,237
A To write my biography, Virginia,
554
00:40:21,262 --> 00:40:24,021
is also to descend with Orlando
into darkness,
555
00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:27,112
where there are
no portraits or witnesses,
556
00:40:27,245 --> 00:40:29,639
to enter the realm of the dead.
557
00:40:31,147 --> 00:40:35,290
To understand that we are
the heirs of an erased history.
558
00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:37,569
It is to learn to honor the dead,
559
00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:40,376
the faceless ones who preceded us.
560
00:40:40,575 --> 00:40:42,736
The Orlandos who have succumbed
561
00:40:42,835 --> 00:40:47,024
to institutional, familiar,
economic, and social violence
562
00:40:47,124 --> 00:40:50,260
are like skeletons lost in the archive.
563
00:40:53,539 --> 00:40:56,772
You too, Virginia, have experienced
violence and depression.
564
00:40:56,797 --> 00:40:59,072
As a child
who was raped by your brother.
565
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:04,421
As a woman, perhaps non-binary,
who loved other women but could
566
00:41:04,446 --> 00:41:07,016
not publicly assert herself
as a lesbian,
567
00:41:07,041 --> 00:41:10,118
and then as an adult,
fragile and institutionalized
568
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,998
by early 20th century psychiatry.
569
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,165
On March 28, 1941,
570
00:41:16,249 --> 00:41:19,141
terrified by your own
depressive episodes,
571
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,165
by the death of your nephew
in the Spanish Civil War,
572
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:25,692
and by the fear of war
coming to England,
573
00:41:25,783 --> 00:41:27,711
you filled your pockets with stones
574
00:41:27,877 --> 00:41:31,401
and went into the Ouse River
next to your house.
575
00:41:31,534 --> 00:41:34,742
Your body was not found
until April 15.
576
00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:37,736
Who will tell our history?
577
00:41:38,016 --> 00:41:42,005
It is necessary to survive violence
in order to tell our history.
578
00:41:42,171 --> 00:41:46,758
It is necessary to tell our history
in order to survive violence.
579
00:41:47,715 --> 00:41:50,175
But contrary to what you imagined,
Virginia,
580
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:52,868
Orlando was not alone.
581
00:41:54,736 --> 00:41:56,000
Who's there?
582
00:42:02,029 --> 00:42:03,359
Is anyone there?
583
00:42:07,262 --> 00:42:08,824
I'm Elios Levy.
584
00:42:08,936 --> 00:42:11,629
In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
585
00:42:12,467 --> 00:42:13,531
Orlando?
586
00:42:14,254 --> 00:42:15,783
I was waiting for you!
587
00:42:28,011 --> 00:42:29,274
I'm Julia.
588
00:42:30,005 --> 00:42:33,130
In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
589
00:42:34,227 --> 00:42:39,047
Sunk for a long time in profound thoughts
590
00:42:39,778 --> 00:42:42,803
as to the value of obscurity...
591
00:42:47,224 --> 00:42:50,814
and the delight of having no name...
592
00:42:52,676 --> 00:42:55,967
but being like a wave which returns
593
00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:58,859
to the deep body of the sea;
594
00:43:00,288 --> 00:43:02,482
thinking how obscurity
595
00:43:02,781 --> 00:43:05,441
rids the mind of the irk
596
00:43:05,939 --> 00:43:08,466
of spite and envy;
597
00:43:09,396 --> 00:43:14,515
how it sets running in the veins the free
waters of generosity and magnanimity;
598
00:43:16,643 --> 00:43:21,629
and allows giving and taking
without thanks offered or praise given;
599
00:43:22,161 --> 00:43:25,884
which must have been the way
all great gender poets lived.
600
00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:31,236
Coccinelle or Marsha P. Johnson
built their bodies and their lives
601
00:43:31,402 --> 00:43:33,629
like others built cathedrals.
602
00:43:34,361 --> 00:43:38,350
For years, I knew
603
00:43:38,915 --> 00:43:41,740
that I was something else,
604
00:43:41,906 --> 00:43:45,762
a little bit Orlando...
but I didn't have the words yet.
605
00:43:47,724 --> 00:43:50,449
I was treated by medicine, but...
606
00:43:52,211 --> 00:43:55,103
the doctors were hardly wiser
than they are now.
607
00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:57,596
They prescribed
608
00:43:58,195 --> 00:44:00,455
rest and exercise,
609
00:44:00,854 --> 00:44:03,148
starvation and nourishment.
610
00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:05,308
They ordered me to...
611
00:44:05,574 --> 00:44:07,934
lie in bed all day
612
00:44:08,134 --> 00:44:11,092
and ride 40 miles
613
00:44:11,292 --> 00:44:13,652
between lunch and dinner.
614
00:44:14,716 --> 00:44:17,707
They put me on sedatives and irritants,
615
00:44:19,037 --> 00:44:21,829
Prozac and newt's slobber
on rising,
616
00:44:22,029 --> 00:44:26,258
Diazepam and draughts of peacock's gall
on going to bed.
617
00:44:27,247 --> 00:44:28,444
Happily,
618
00:44:29,242 --> 00:44:31,436
I was of a strong build,
619
00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:36,788
but neither psychology nor medicine
could cure me.
620
00:44:38,084 --> 00:44:41,109
Only reading
and affirming my life drive
621
00:44:41,275 --> 00:44:43,004
could cure me.
622
00:44:43,137 --> 00:44:45,098
I had my first
623
00:44:45,563 --> 00:44:48,755
testosterone shot last Saturday
624
00:44:48,888 --> 00:44:51,381
after we met.
625
00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:55,636
But a little dose to see
626
00:44:56,001 --> 00:45:00,123
because I don't think
I want to pass for a cis guy
627
00:45:00,755 --> 00:45:02,483
and I think that...
628
00:45:02,982 --> 00:45:05,974
passing for a trans person
would be fine.
629
00:45:06,938 --> 00:45:08,566
At the same time...
630
00:45:09,397 --> 00:45:10,727
it's still...
631
00:45:11,392 --> 00:45:13,985
This freedom scares me.
632
00:45:14,151 --> 00:45:15,913
In the book, he talks
633
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,208
about having to lose
these masculine clothes will be difficult,
634
00:45:20,254 --> 00:45:23,878
he's going to live... she's going to live
635
00:45:23,924 --> 00:45:26,783
from now on
as a woman with women's clothes
636
00:45:26,982 --> 00:45:29,988
and it's going to be complicated
637
00:45:30,074 --> 00:45:32,534
to live in a patriarchal society.
638
00:45:32,766 --> 00:45:35,359
That stuck with me.
639
00:45:36,050 --> 00:45:38,377
I say to myself that...
640
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:41,941
whether you're a man,
non-binary, woman or trans,
641
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,229
you can identify with these words.
They'll remain forever modern.
642
00:45:46,395 --> 00:45:50,750
It's very scary
that we probably have
643
00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:52,877
privileges to lose.
644
00:45:53,309 --> 00:45:59,758
In me, were feelings
of melancholy and indolence...
645
00:46:01,054 --> 00:46:04,844
ardor and passion for solitude...
646
00:46:06,373 --> 00:46:10,694
Before being who I am now,
I went through very depressive passages.
647
00:46:12,024 --> 00:46:14,085
I even thought about death.
648
00:46:17,143 --> 00:46:19,869
I have a rage that I want to share,
649
00:46:20,035 --> 00:46:21,830
an inner rage,
650
00:46:22,096 --> 00:46:24,656
and I see so many friends around me
651
00:46:24,855 --> 00:46:27,681
who don't feel...
652
00:46:28,379 --> 00:46:29,675
free.
653
00:46:29,841 --> 00:46:32,534
Even if I am angry, sometimes,
654
00:46:32,667 --> 00:46:36,357
I'm also very happy to share it
because it is a joy,
655
00:46:37,254 --> 00:46:43,005
a joy to be able to tell your friends,
to be able to say who you are...
656
00:46:45,132 --> 00:46:47,027
and above all...
657
00:46:51,814 --> 00:46:55,637
not to be afraid, even if it is difficult.
658
00:47:01,354 --> 00:47:06,074
Years passed, even if Orlando
wanted to hide in their castle,
659
00:47:06,274 --> 00:47:09,964
they were besieged
by hate messages on their accounts.
660
00:47:10,296 --> 00:47:14,717
In order to escape the court life
and the digital harassment,
661
00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:19,238
they asked King Charles to send them
as far away as possible.
662
00:47:21,146 --> 00:47:23,340
Here hides
663
00:47:23,799 --> 00:47:25,262
Ambition,
664
00:47:25,361 --> 00:47:26,724
the harridan,
665
00:47:27,994 --> 00:47:29,490
Hatred,
666
00:47:29,908 --> 00:47:31,570
the witch,
667
00:47:32,701 --> 00:47:34,562
and Desire of Fame,
668
00:47:34,775 --> 00:47:36,205
the strumpet.
669
00:47:44,202 --> 00:47:47,028
Weapon Store of the East Station
670
00:48:09,865 --> 00:48:11,095
Hello.
671
00:48:11,294 --> 00:48:12,590
I'm Orlando.
672
00:48:13,787 --> 00:48:18,042
I was appointed extraordinary ambassador
in Constantinople by King Charles.
673
00:48:21,034 --> 00:48:24,524
It seems I can find
the attributes of masculinity here.
674
00:48:24,757 --> 00:48:26,951
I have a few things to offer you.
675
00:48:33,027 --> 00:48:34,324
There you are.
676
00:48:43,698 --> 00:48:45,560
- Anything else?
- Of course.
677
00:48:57,951 --> 00:48:59,480
- Still not?
- No.
678
00:49:05,286 --> 00:49:09,840
Orlando began to understand
what being a man
679
00:49:09,865 --> 00:49:12,359
in a patriarchal society meant:
680
00:49:12,525 --> 00:49:16,271
not just having the right
to use violence,
681
00:49:16,314 --> 00:49:18,841
but rather having
the obligation to do so.
682
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:20,037
I'll take it.
683
00:49:21,367 --> 00:49:24,267
On the other hand
in a patriarchal society,
684
00:49:24,292 --> 00:49:26,811
becoming a woman
means to be disarmed.
685
00:49:26,885 --> 00:49:28,015
Hello.
686
00:49:33,313 --> 00:49:36,703
- I'm just looking, thanks.
- Go ahead.
687
00:49:36,791 --> 00:49:40,920
Reading a manuscript of "Orlando”
in the New York Public Library,
688
00:49:41,046 --> 00:49:47,960
I learn that you, Virginia, had included
yourself in your book as a character,
689
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:49,788
Volumia Fox.
690
00:49:50,021 --> 00:49:51,617
I'd like to buy this fox.
691
00:49:51,783 --> 00:49:53,578
Sorry, it's not for sale.
692
00:49:56,888 --> 00:49:59,614
What if I trade it for this?
693
00:50:09,135 --> 00:50:11,561
Is it authentic?
From the 18th century?
694
00:50:11,794 --> 00:50:13,788
1741, to be precise.
695
00:50:14,453 --> 00:50:16,248
- With pleasure.
- OK?
696
00:50:17,412 --> 00:50:19,905
Then you removed that part,
697
00:50:19,938 --> 00:50:22,265
and your character disappeared.
698
00:50:26,228 --> 00:50:29,187
In all stories
there are hidden characters
699
00:50:29,299 --> 00:50:32,757
and ghosts that remain unseen.
700
00:50:33,494 --> 00:50:36,519
I like your pseudonym, Volumia Fox.
701
00:50:36,717 --> 00:50:39,310
It's a really great drag queen name.
702
00:50:55,041 --> 00:51:00,426
Then, one summer day,
Orlando finally arrived in Constantinople.
703
00:51:13,058 --> 00:51:17,851
Where historians would have liked to solve
the mystery of their transition,
704
00:51:17,891 --> 00:51:20,750
they found a hole in the manuscript.
705
00:51:21,335 --> 00:51:26,375
In short, we have done our best
to compose a meager summary
706
00:51:26,447 --> 00:51:28,940
from the blackened fragments
that remain.
707
00:51:29,014 --> 00:51:33,302
But often we have found it necessary
to speculate, to suppose,
708
00:51:33,327 --> 00:51:36,291
even to have recourse
to the imagination.
709
00:51:37,557 --> 00:51:40,698
Constantinople will be for Orlando
710
00:51:40,723 --> 00:51:43,548
the magical place of all discoveries.
711
00:51:43,573 --> 00:51:46,731
But the most important thing
is that you, Virginia,
712
00:51:46,831 --> 00:51:52,444
have decided that Orlando's transition
will take place here.
713
00:52:01,956 --> 00:52:05,776
As soon as they arrived, Orlando was
perfumed, curled and "anointed"
714
00:52:05,819 --> 00:52:07,216
according to the custom,
715
00:52:07,241 --> 00:52:11,604
their body transformed
into a representative of imperial power.
716
00:52:11,629 --> 00:52:15,145
Most importantly, their face was whitened.
717
00:52:15,518 --> 00:52:20,201
In the mid-17th century, before the
concept of race was invented in the West,
718
00:52:20,238 --> 00:52:25,001
colonial governors invented
whiteness through makeup
719
00:52:25,025 --> 00:52:29,948
to differentiate between the skin
of the dominant and of the subaltern.
720
00:52:33,382 --> 00:52:37,071
Why does gender change
take place in the colony?
721
00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:44,189
You, Virginia,
knew this colonial trip well:
722
00:52:44,214 --> 00:52:48,521
your mother, Julia Jackson, was born
in Calcutta into a family of doctors
723
00:52:48,546 --> 00:52:51,611
working for the East India Company.
724
00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:54,086
And your husband, Leonard Woolf,
725
00:52:54,219 --> 00:52:57,111
had been a cadet,
then an administrative officer
726
00:52:57,136 --> 00:52:59,430
for the British Empire in Ceylon.
727
00:53:05,222 --> 00:53:09,942
Perhaps that's why you didn't imagine
an Orlando who perceives the colonial city
728
00:53:10,066 --> 00:53:13,976
as a totally foreign place,
but rather as a mirror place
729
00:53:14,036 --> 00:53:17,061
where they understand
their misbegotten condition.
730
00:53:19,868 --> 00:53:24,289
I don't think the people of these lands
I'm supposed to govern
731
00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:25,797
are different from me.
732
00:53:28,258 --> 00:53:30,745
I wonder whether, in the Crusades,
733
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:35,713
one of my ancestors had taken up
with a Circassian peasant woman.
734
00:53:36,868 --> 00:53:40,319
Maybe he obtained her sexual favors
in exchange for something.
735
00:53:40,383 --> 00:53:42,909
Maybe he forced her.
736
00:53:43,761 --> 00:53:45,852
I think it possible.
737
00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:48,806
I am not white.
738
00:53:49,491 --> 00:53:53,194
I am the child of this colonial journey
and of this rape.
739
00:54:38,763 --> 00:54:42,486
Orlando’s mutation
does not start with a sex change.
740
00:54:42,631 --> 00:54:45,291
There are four metamorphoses.
741
00:54:45,370 --> 00:54:48,229
The first two are poetry and love.
742
00:54:48,395 --> 00:54:52,125
The third one,
induced by the exile from his own culture,
743
00:54:52,184 --> 00:54:54,662
is the process of creolization.
744
00:54:54,744 --> 00:54:58,585
Only after that,
the fourth metamorphosis takes place.
745
00:54:58,627 --> 00:55:01,713
Orlando is ready for their gender change.
746
00:55:11,132 --> 00:55:15,320
I'm Amir Baylly. In this film
I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
747
00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:20,174
After 2 years as ambassador,
Charles gave me the highest peerage
748
00:55:20,858 --> 00:55:25,393
The envious said it was because
I had the finest legs in England.
749
00:55:25,625 --> 00:55:30,013
Well, I think it was my merits,
not my legs.
750
00:55:30,146 --> 00:55:32,339
My journey to Constantinople
751
00:55:32,380 --> 00:55:35,139
was, at first, full of apprehension.
752
00:55:35,232 --> 00:55:37,725
I was afraid I'd lose everything:
753
00:55:37,825 --> 00:55:40,177
especially my family,
754
00:55:40,245 --> 00:55:43,437
not really my friends,
more the world in general.
755
00:55:43,509 --> 00:55:47,485
And it turned out a lot better
than expected, in the end.
756
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:50,764
I grew up with just my mother,
who's French.
757
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:52,687
My father is Rwandan.
758
00:55:52,833 --> 00:55:57,284
So I didn't have any contact
with that side of the family
759
00:55:57,309 --> 00:55:59,831
before I was 17 or 18.
760
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:03,354
They still knew me
before I transitioned.
761
00:56:04,318 --> 00:56:08,839
But when I had to tell them
what I was going to do,
762
00:56:08,972 --> 00:56:11,232
they took it very well.
763
00:56:11,432 --> 00:56:14,091
It tends to surprise people
764
00:56:14,257 --> 00:56:18,246
because you imagine
that African families
765
00:56:18,412 --> 00:56:22,135
or non-Western families
as being more closed-minded
766
00:56:22,302 --> 00:56:26,217
about issues
such as gender and sexuality.
767
00:56:26,277 --> 00:56:31,345
But it's not the case. It's a stereotype
and it depends on the people.
768
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:33,789
I started at a pretty young age.
769
00:56:33,814 --> 00:56:36,870
I'm 23, so I started when I was 20.
770
00:56:36,895 --> 00:56:41,704
It wasn't really a break
with the person I was before.
771
00:56:41,737 --> 00:56:45,125
It was more of a continuation
772
00:56:45,172 --> 00:56:48,154
of who I am
and who I'd become.
773
00:56:48,214 --> 00:56:50,540
People spread rumors about me.
774
00:56:50,565 --> 00:56:53,224
Shepherds,
bringing their goats to market;
775
00:56:53,249 --> 00:56:56,141
said they'd seen me praying
on a mountain top.
776
00:56:56,208 --> 00:56:59,986
But I was actually
just reciting a poem aloud
777
00:57:00,297 --> 00:57:03,423
because I like to chant
when I'm alone.
778
00:57:04,285 --> 00:57:07,422
I've become the idol of many women..
779
00:57:07,497 --> 00:57:09,093
and certain men.
780
00:57:09,272 --> 00:57:12,795
Some fall in love
without having spoken to me or seen me.
781
00:57:13,394 --> 00:57:18,147
When they think of me, they imagine
a noble gentleman in silk stockings
782
00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,039
as the sun sets over Constantinople.
783
00:57:21,898 --> 00:57:23,328
But in fact,
784
00:57:23,379 --> 00:57:26,403
I spent most of my time alone.
785
00:57:42,847 --> 00:57:45,872
Orlando spent their days
wandering and reading,
786
00:57:45,917 --> 00:57:48,111
accompanied by their beloved dog.
787
00:57:48,604 --> 00:57:52,680
Everyone thought they were the same,
but somewhere inside them,
788
00:57:52,712 --> 00:57:55,338
the metamorphosis had already begun.
789
00:58:05,782 --> 00:58:09,716
One day, Duke Orlando,
as we must call them from now on,
790
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:14,145
was found, by their secretaries
and their dog, deeply asleep.
791
00:58:19,624 --> 00:58:24,444
At first, nothing was suspected,
because the evening had been very tiring.
792
00:58:25,534 --> 00:58:27,196
But the next day,
793
00:58:27,569 --> 00:58:29,629
Orlando was still sleeping.
794
00:58:30,162 --> 00:58:33,254
And so the doctors were called.
795
00:59:07,358 --> 00:59:08,688
Is he alive?
796
00:59:08,915 --> 00:59:11,342
He's alive, he's alive!
797
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,997
We are Pierre and Gilles.
798
00:59:16,067 --> 00:59:20,455
In this film we'll be
Orlando's doctors.
799
00:59:22,902 --> 00:59:25,295
On the seventh day
of this lethargy,
800
00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:28,785
the first shot
of a bloody insurrection broke out.
801
00:59:29,051 --> 00:59:32,043
The people were rising
against the sultan.
802
00:59:32,176 --> 00:59:35,733
The insurgents put
all the foreigners to the sword.
803
00:59:35,899 --> 00:59:40,520
But thinking that Orlando was dead,
they abandoned them in their palace.
804
00:59:48,032 --> 00:59:53,484
A normative biographer would have wanted
to write the end word on the screen.
805
00:59:53,583 --> 00:59:57,704
Saying Orlando died,
they put them in the ground.
806
00:59:58,536 --> 01:00:01,846
But this is not how things happened.
807
01:00:12,830 --> 01:00:15,656
3 goddesses came out
of the mist of the night
808
01:00:15,695 --> 01:00:18,182
and rescued Orlando from death.
809
01:00:27,964 --> 01:00:31,886
I'm Tristana. In this film
I'll be the goddess of hormones.
810
01:00:32,052 --> 01:00:36,690
And I'm Le Filip. In this film
I'll be the goddess of gender fucking.
811
01:00:36,715 --> 01:00:41,396
And I'm Miss Drinks. In this film
I'll be the goddess of insurrection.
812
01:01:04,853 --> 01:01:08,842
Truth, truth, truth!
813
01:01:16,183 --> 01:01:19,674
Orlando had become a woman.
No need to deny it.
814
01:01:19,699 --> 01:01:22,991
But for the rest,
they remained the same Orlando.
815
01:01:23,044 --> 01:01:26,868
They might have changed sex
and destiny.
816
01:01:26,939 --> 01:01:28,635
But not personality.
817
01:01:33,188 --> 01:01:37,809
It seems that the metamorphosis
was painless and perfect.
818
01:01:40,833 --> 01:01:45,198
Many scientists, convinced
that a change of sex would be unnatural,
819
01:01:45,287 --> 01:01:47,614
have gone to great lengths
to prove:
820
01:01:47,767 --> 01:01:51,258
1. that Orlando
had always been a woman;
821
01:01:51,696 --> 01:01:55,220
2. that Orlando
had never stopped being a man.
822
01:01:56,119 --> 01:01:59,878
Let biologists and psychologists
argue unnecessarily.
823
01:01:59,942 --> 01:02:02,641
As for us, the facts are enough.
824
01:02:02,706 --> 01:02:08,025
Orlando had changed gender, sex,
and soon sexuality.
825
01:02:21,773 --> 01:02:25,881
I beg the audience to remember
that Orlando was like a child
826
01:02:25,961 --> 01:02:29,070
who comes into possession
of a garden or a toy cabinet.
827
01:02:29,095 --> 01:02:31,443
Their reasoning was not that of women
828
01:02:31,501 --> 01:02:34,492
who were assigned
the female gender at birth
829
01:02:34,546 --> 01:02:39,499
and who perceive the rituals
of patriarchal oppression as natural.
830
01:02:39,524 --> 01:02:43,839
With some of the guineas
left from the sale of a pearl
831
01:02:45,375 --> 01:02:50,494
and with money made from doing
stripteases via webcam in Turkey,
832
01:02:51,566 --> 01:02:55,463
I bought a complete outfit of clothes
women wore then,
833
01:02:55,500 --> 01:03:01,417
and it was in the dress
of a young Englishwoman of rank
834
01:03:02,288 --> 01:03:04,781
that I prepared to return to the castle.
835
01:03:11,245 --> 01:03:15,533
The first year of my transition was one
of the most beautiful periods of my life.
836
01:03:15,699 --> 01:03:18,785
I remember a time,
between January and June,
837
01:03:18,842 --> 01:03:25,390
when, after increasing my hormone dosage
every 17 days to 250 milligrams,
838
01:03:25,671 --> 01:03:29,727
it was still not possible
for me or others
839
01:03:29,939 --> 01:03:33,928
to know whether my face
was female or male.
840
01:03:34,755 --> 01:03:37,614
Sometimes, as I walked
through the streets of New York,
841
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,095
I would see my reflection
in a shop window
842
01:03:40,165 --> 01:03:43,678
and I would see
how the female face was decomposing
843
01:03:43,788 --> 01:03:46,979
without the male face
having yet appeared.
844
01:03:47,004 --> 01:03:49,328
Hormones had begun to undo
845
01:03:49,364 --> 01:03:53,588
one mask of me, but it had not
yet been replaced by another.
846
01:03:54,902 --> 01:03:57,960
I called this period
the genderless time.
847
01:03:58,718 --> 01:04:00,779
This was an uncertain time,
848
01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:03,234
but it was also light.
849
01:04:03,546 --> 01:04:08,532
It was as if all relationships
of ownership, inheritance, guilt, and debt
850
01:04:08,658 --> 01:04:11,284
had disappeared with sexual difference.
851
01:04:11,944 --> 01:04:17,387
As the hormonal changes sculpted my bod»
like a chemical chisel working from within
852
01:04:17,487 --> 01:04:20,388
and I began to use my new name,
853
01:04:20,533 --> 01:04:24,023
I felt how reality
metamorphosed around me.
854
01:04:24,117 --> 01:04:27,142
It wasn't just me
who was changing.
855
01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:30,557
My change was part
of a planetary mutation.
856
01:04:30,743 --> 01:04:33,336
You, Virginia, you knew it.
857
01:04:33,616 --> 01:04:36,674
Orlando's enjoyment of their transition
858
01:04:36,826 --> 01:04:40,416
comes from the decision
to be open to experimentation.
859
01:04:40,557 --> 01:04:43,183
To make their life a work of art.
860
01:04:47,637 --> 01:04:48,900
Now...
861
01:04:49,731 --> 01:04:51,160
I'm a woman.
862
01:04:53,122 --> 01:04:55,415
Never have I seen my skin
863
01:04:55,581 --> 01:04:58,407
look so good.
864
01:05:02,994 --> 01:05:04,523
However...
865
01:05:05,986 --> 01:05:08,246
could I jump overboard...
866
01:05:09,244 --> 01:05:11,238
and swim in this garment?
867
01:05:12,933 --> 01:05:15,593
We'll start again, we'll start again.
868
01:05:16,357 --> 01:05:19,415
- More trashy.
- OK.
869
01:05:19,748 --> 01:05:22,658
- From the beginning?
- Yes.
870
01:05:22,766 --> 01:05:25,359
"Now, I'm a woman." See?
871
01:05:27,692 --> 01:05:29,155
Now, I'm a woman.
872
01:05:29,886 --> 01:05:34,008
After Paul's "Action”, I'll give a sign
so you can start talking.
873
01:05:34,141 --> 01:05:36,036
- OK.
- Thanks.
874
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,689
Still rolling.
875
01:05:41,188 --> 01:05:43,183
When you're ready, Paul...
876
01:05:43,482 --> 01:05:44,679
Action!
877
01:05:54,953 --> 01:05:57,072
Orlando would also discover
878
01:05:57,097 --> 01:06:00,355
that there were 1,000 different ways
to be a woman.
879
01:06:02,942 --> 01:06:08,119
Femininity was not an essence,
but rather a practice of becoming.
880
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:12,535
Lord...
881
01:06:14,031 --> 01:06:17,421
I can't respect men's opinion
of women anymore.
882
01:06:18,432 --> 01:06:19,895
[t is monstrous.
883
01:06:20,978 --> 01:06:23,598
I can't even eat by myself.
884
01:06:23,737 --> 01:06:27,268
I understood the problem when Captain
885
01:06:27,367 --> 01:06:29,827
Nicholas Benedict Bartolus,
886
01:06:30,186 --> 01:06:32,712
a sea-captain of distinguished aspect,
887
01:06:33,610 --> 01:06:37,765
offered me a slice of corned beef
and said:
888
01:06:39,114 --> 01:06:41,209
A little of the fat, Ma'm?
889
01:06:41,441 --> 01:06:47,026
Let me cut you the tiniest little slice
the size of your fingernail."
890
01:06:51,427 --> 01:06:54,053
I remember the feeling
891
01:06:54,685 --> 01:06:57,444
of indescribable pleasure
892
01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:59,638
with which I had first seen
893
01:06:59,937 --> 01:07:02,430
a beautiful woman for the first time,
894
01:07:03,062 --> 01:07:05,056
a hundred years ago.
895
01:07:13,124 --> 01:07:17,544
In the meantime, the ships
that were going to take Orlando to England
896
01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:20,267
were arriving on the Turkish Sea.
897
01:07:47,508 --> 01:07:49,269
I'm Naelle Dariya,
898
01:07:49,294 --> 01:07:55,480
06 19 85 31 74.
899
01:07:55,636 --> 01:08:00,720
In this film I'll be
. Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
900
01:08:37,841 --> 01:08:42,694
To be trans is to discover the backstage
of sexual and gender difference.
901
01:08:42,832 --> 01:08:46,821
To understand that a society is
a collectively constructed set
902
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,615
and that masculinity and femininity
are political fictions,
903
01:08:50,663 --> 01:08:56,865
which we have learned to perceive as
natural through repetition and violence.
904
01:09:05,523 --> 01:09:08,224
A gender transition is a journey.
905
01:09:08,249 --> 01:09:12,908
It is not a passage between masculinity
and femininity or vice versa,
906
01:09:13,015 --> 01:09:16,240
but rather a journey
into unknown territory.
907
01:09:16,293 --> 01:09:20,598
This unknown land is actually
the society we were born into,
908
01:09:20,623 --> 01:09:22,883
but now experienced
909
01:09:22,908 --> 01:09:25,866
from a different political position.
910
01:09:44,315 --> 01:09:47,481
Transition does not begin during sleep
911
01:09:47,549 --> 01:09:49,975
as an unconscious, passive moment,
912
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,778
but rather in the dream
913
01:09:51,803 --> 01:09:55,526
as an active emergence
of desire in memory.
914
01:09:55,551 --> 01:10:00,518
It is in our imagination
as a force for political transformation
915
01:10:00,557 --> 01:10:03,183
that we start becoming trans.
916
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:16,767
What?
917
01:10:16,792 --> 01:10:20,583
The sight of my knees
can cause the death of a boy
918
01:10:20,615 --> 01:10:23,803
who no doubt has a wife and family?
919
01:10:24,597 --> 01:10:27,955
So, to be kind,
I should keep them covered up.
920
01:10:29,125 --> 01:10:31,471
A pox on them!
921
01:10:32,608 --> 01:10:35,932
Now I must return to England,
922
01:10:37,169 --> 01:10:40,707
but what will England say
when they see me like this?
923
01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:46,436
Once I set foot on English soil
as a woman,
924
01:10:47,335 --> 01:10:51,887
I'll never be able to crack a man
on the head, or tell him he lies,
925
01:10:52,247 --> 01:10:54,854
or sit among my peers in Parliament,
926
01:10:55,598 --> 01:10:59,628
or wear 72 different medals
on my breast.
927
01:11:01,701 --> 01:11:04,460
My only right as a woman
928
01:11:04,913 --> 01:11:09,999
will be to pour out tea
and ask my lords how they like it.
929
01:11:11,694 --> 01:11:13,854
"D'you take sugar?
930
01:11:15,264 --> 01:11:17,957
D'you take cream?"
931
01:11:19,648 --> 01:11:22,468
No girls. Don't be silly!
932
01:11:28,433 --> 01:11:32,443
Your Orlando, Virginia, went to Turkey
as a soldier of the king
933
01:11:32,484 --> 01:11:35,010
and returned,
transformed into a woman.
934
01:11:48,572 --> 01:11:52,528
In 1952,
Orlando was called Christine Jorgensen.
935
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,586
She was like your character,
a soldier who became a woman
936
01:11:55,752 --> 01:11:58,478
and came to the United States
from Denmark.
937
01:11:58,578 --> 01:12:03,564
The first trans women featured on TV
were always portrayed
938
01:12:03,730 --> 01:12:07,021
as Orlando,
stepping off a boat or a plane.
939
01:12:07,136 --> 01:12:10,678
In the normative narratives
of the lives of Orlandos,
940
01:12:10,737 --> 01:12:13,802
there is this obstinacy
to make trans women arrive from afar.
941
01:12:13,969 --> 01:12:17,492
As if transformation
should always happen abroad.
942
01:12:17,572 --> 01:12:20,916
As if it could never happen here.
943
01:12:21,049 --> 01:12:24,357
As if a vaginoplasty
should necessarily take place
944
01:12:24,504 --> 01:12:25,902
in a parallel world.
945
01:12:25,992 --> 01:12:30,523
As if the operating table
was on the waves or in the clouds.
946
01:12:30,689 --> 01:12:34,013
In 1958, Orlando was called
Coccinelle
947
01:12:34,146 --> 01:12:38,434
and she arrived in France
after passing through a clinic in Morocco.
948
01:12:38,933 --> 01:12:41,839
And now
949
01:12:44,251 --> 01:12:47,069
My goodness.
950
01:12:55,014 --> 01:12:56,943
I didn't expect that.
951
01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:59,069
Have you been offered
a movie contract
952
01:12:59,094 --> 01:13:01,138
Yes, but I haven't accepted it yet.
953
01:13:01,212 --> 01:13:04,071
Do you have any plans
rigarding theater?
954
01:13:04,233 --> 01:13:06,167
No, I don't think so.
955
01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:10,645
I cannot play the theater
of heterosexuality either.
956
01:13:11,243 --> 01:13:13,105
I'm not a man...
957
01:13:14,102 --> 01:13:16,230
I'm not just a woman...
958
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,723
I'm a trans woman.
959
01:13:19,587 --> 01:13:22,180
I know the secrets of both sexes,
960
01:13:22,346 --> 01:13:25,437
their social conventions
and their infirmities.
961
01:13:25,992 --> 01:13:27,698
I'm no longer a boy.
962
01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:31,255
I'm not a woman yet.
963
01:13:32,285 --> 01:13:35,111
I'm not the person I want to be yet.
964
01:13:35,207 --> 01:13:41,260
But the words to describe the gender
of the person I want to be don't exist.
965
01:13:41,393 --> 01:13:45,648
So, they have to be invented.
So, you have to be poetic.
966
01:13:47,465 --> 01:13:48,865
We are poets.
967
01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:50,744
I'm very happy to be back,
968
01:13:50,769 --> 01:13:53,292
and I don't have any plans
at the moment
969
01:13:53,358 --> 01:13:55,452
and I thank you all
for coming
970
01:13:55,633 --> 01:13:57,193
but I think it's too much
971
01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:59,053
Fine. T.hank you very much
972
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:02,867
I was a feather blown on the gale.
973
01:14:04,329 --> 01:14:07,820
I kept pitting one sex
against the other
974
01:14:08,209 --> 01:14:11,743
and finding them
as pathetic as each other.
975
01:14:11,842 --> 01:14:17,360
I don't understand why France,
a marvelous country I'm rediscovering...
976
01:14:17,527 --> 01:14:22,967
I don't understand why it won't let
unhappy people get operated on.
977
01:14:23,007 --> 01:14:26,780
People get nose jobs,
why not the rest?
978
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:30,457
My entire psychology was transformed.
979
01:14:31,455 --> 01:14:33,183
Disappearance of shame,
980
01:14:33,449 --> 01:14:35,311
disappearance of anxiety,
981
01:14:35,577 --> 01:14:37,438
public authorization,
982
01:14:38,435 --> 01:14:39,998
self-recognition,
983
01:14:40,164 --> 01:14:41,693
self-esteem,
984
01:14:42,524 --> 01:14:44,153
disappearance of hatred ,
985
01:14:45,217 --> 01:14:46,779
appearance of love...
986
01:14:47,211 --> 01:14:50,037
That is the aim.
987
01:14:50,469 --> 01:14:51,798
Come...
988
01:14:52,231 --> 01:14:53,460
Come.
989
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:57,682
I am sick to death
of this particular self.
990
01:14:57,848 --> 01:14:59,278
I want another.
991
01:14:59,927 --> 01:15:02,989
I travel the world all year round.
992
01:15:03,049 --> 01:15:06,120
I know 2,000 post-op women.
993
01:15:06,193 --> 01:15:11,145
I don't call them transsexuals.
I say women of the year 2000.
994
01:15:11,577 --> 01:15:14,469
We will soon be the women
of the year 2000.
995
01:15:14,735 --> 01:15:17,826
I always say I'm a trans woman.
996
01:15:18,491 --> 01:15:21,450
I say it with pride. If I were reborn,
997
01:15:21,616 --> 01:15:23,943
I'd want to be the same person.
998
01:15:23,943 --> 01:15:26,336
How will this affect your job?
999
01:15:26,403 --> 01:15:29,875
Darling, I don't have a job.
I am on welfair.
1000
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:33,897
I have no intention to get a job
as long as this country
1001
01:15:33,922 --> 01:15:35,978
discriminates against homosexuals.
1002
01:15:36,086 --> 01:15:40,402
There's only homosexuals, bisexuals
then trisexual, darling.
1003
01:15:40,466 --> 01:15:42,893
And there's no straight people.
1004
01:15:42,924 --> 01:15:46,879
I discovered sex work, street work.
1005
01:15:47,045 --> 01:15:48,741
I saw women die,
1006
01:15:48,874 --> 01:15:51,756
girlfriends who fell right next to me,
1007
01:15:51,832 --> 01:15:55,389
a car went by, shots were fired,
1008
01:15:55,555 --> 01:15:59,544
they fell right next to me,
1009
01:15:59,710 --> 01:16:04,855
because of many things:
hatred, transphobia,
1010
01:16:05,295 --> 01:16:07,231
many horrible things.
1011
01:16:07,256 --> 01:16:13,073
It's what gave me the strength
to leave my home country, Venezuela.
1012
01:16:13,206 --> 01:16:16,331
I saw myself dead like many of my friends
1013
01:16:16,497 --> 01:16:18,633
who died that year.
1014
01:16:18,724 --> 01:16:21,849
I thought that if I stayed,
1015
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,342
I wouldn't survive.
1016
01:16:25,643 --> 01:16:27,770
I have been to jaile.
1017
01:16:27,876 --> 01:16:29,676
I have been raped
1018
01:16:29,816 --> 01:16:31,096
and beaten
1019
01:16:31,203 --> 01:16:32,476
many times
1020
01:16:32,667 --> 01:16:34,327
by men.
1021
01:16:34,481 --> 01:16:38,403
I can't change my identity now.
1022
01:16:38,536 --> 01:16:42,891
I can see myself in a mirror.
Many people see me and I'm a woman,
1023
01:16:43,024 --> 01:16:48,675
but unfortunately,
for institutions, hospitals, banks,
1024
01:16:48,841 --> 01:16:50,769
I'm a victim of transphobia
1025
01:16:50,935 --> 01:16:55,321
because when I hand over my ID,
they don't see the person.
1026
01:16:55,388 --> 01:16:59,463
I will not put up with this shit.
1027
01:16:59,569 --> 01:17:01,342
I have been beaten,
1028
01:17:01,408 --> 01:17:03,682
I have had my nose broken.
1029
01:17:03,795 --> 01:17:05,689
I have been thrown in jail.
1030
01:17:05,775 --> 01:17:07,875
I have lost my job.
1031
01:17:08,022 --> 01:17:11,695
I have lost my apartment
for gay liberation
1032
01:17:11,815 --> 01:17:14,095
and you treat me this way?
1033
01:17:14,244 --> 01:17:16,638
What the fuck is wrong with you?
1034
01:17:16,772 --> 01:17:20,528
The people are trying to do
something for all of us
1035
01:17:20,611 --> 01:17:25,435
and not men and women
that belong to a white middle-class
1036
01:17:25,610 --> 01:17:27,430
white club,
1037
01:17:27,643 --> 01:17:30,835
and not what you belong to
1038
01:17:30,866 --> 01:17:33,226
...now
1039
01:17:33,251 --> 01:17:36,443
The state is responsible
for sex workers' insecurity
1040
01:17:36,609 --> 01:17:39,202
After returning to England as a woman
1041
01:17:39,335 --> 01:17:41,894
who had lost their possessions
and legal identity,
1042
01:17:42,094 --> 01:17:45,916
Orlando, now stateless
and accompanied only by their dog,
1043
01:17:46,049 --> 01:17:51,401
the only one who still recognized them,
began an endless wandering for centuries.
1044
01:17:53,495 --> 01:17:55,963
Come on, I'll give you...
1045
01:17:56,554 --> 01:17:58,349
Yes, I will.
1046
01:17:58,515 --> 01:18:01,108
I know, I know. Here, darling.
1047
01:18:02,404 --> 01:18:05,595
Hang on. Walk on
'cause it's too much.
1048
01:18:05,728 --> 01:18:07,623
Do it nice and easy.
1049
01:18:08,188 --> 01:18:10,349
Go on, off you go, darling.
1050
01:18:12,077 --> 01:18:13,440
You be careful.
1051
01:18:17,429 --> 01:18:18,692
Take it easy.
1052
01:18:27,734 --> 01:18:29,562
I'm Jenny Bel'Air.
1053
01:18:29,728 --> 01:18:33,717
In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1054
01:18:38,737 --> 01:18:46,382
I'm Rilke. In this film I'll be
the dog of Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1055
01:18:53,197 --> 01:18:55,358
Hello, ma'am.
How can I help?
1056
01:18:56,022 --> 01:19:00,344
I reserved a room
in the name of Mrs. Orlando.
1057
01:19:00,434 --> 01:19:01,667
Orlando.
1058
01:19:02,405 --> 01:19:04,898
- Indeed.
- Forgive me...
1059
01:19:05,064 --> 01:19:09,186
I just found out that Godard died
and it's made me so sad.
1060
01:19:09,352 --> 01:19:11,679
- Forgive me.
- My condolences.
1061
01:19:11,878 --> 01:19:14,536
I can give you Room 503.
1062
01:19:14,637 --> 01:19:20,049
Fine. I asked for a room
overlooking the courtyard as I hate noise.
1063
01:19:20,156 --> 01:19:24,344
- 503 is fine, then.
- OK. Don't forget I have a dog.
1064
01:19:24,543 --> 01:19:26,172
- OK?
- We accept dogs.
1065
01:19:26,338 --> 01:19:27,801
Excellent, good.
1066
01:19:27,934 --> 01:19:31,956
- Can I have your ID, please?
- Yes, I nearly forgot.
1067
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,283
Now then...
1068
01:19:35,347 --> 01:19:37,574
Here is my passport.
1069
01:19:39,907 --> 01:19:40,805
Thank you.
1070
01:19:41,131 --> 01:19:44,555
Nationality: Planet Earth
Date of birth: 9 March 1500
1071
01:19:44,688 --> 01:19:46,183
Author: Virginia Woolf
1072
01:19:47,314 --> 01:19:52,366
Excuse me. I think this must be
your husband's. It's in a man's name.
1073
01:19:52,666 --> 01:19:55,724
Do I look married? Look at me.
1074
01:19:55,857 --> 01:19:58,510
There's no mistake. Look closely.
1075
01:19:58,617 --> 01:20:02,704
I did. I'm sorry,
I can't accept this ID card.
1076
01:20:02,837 --> 01:20:06,046
What? I'm Orlando. It's me!
1077
01:20:06,095 --> 01:20:11,251
Look, sir or madam, I don't know,
I can't accept this ID card.
1078
01:20:11,373 --> 01:20:14,150
I'm not sir or madam,
I'm Orlando!
1079
01:20:14,398 --> 01:20:15,462
So?
1080
01:20:15,502 --> 01:20:18,959
Don't call me sir.
Do I look like a man?
1081
01:20:19,092 --> 01:20:20,987
I'm not a man, you're mistaken.
1082
01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:24,477
It's my real passport. Look at the photo.
1083
01:20:24,610 --> 01:20:28,755
I saw it, but I can't accept
an ID card that isn't valid.
1084
01:20:28,932 --> 01:20:32,721
I have to ask you
to leave the hotel.
1085
01:20:33,586 --> 01:20:35,447
You do that to me?
1086
01:20:36,976 --> 01:20:38,273
You damn...
1087
01:20:38,605 --> 01:20:40,100
Shit!
1088
01:20:47,713 --> 01:20:50,472
ldentity papers are
administrative prostheses
1089
01:20:50,605 --> 01:20:55,192
without which a human body in a binary
society becomes a political outlaw,
1090
01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:57,420
without the possibility
of owning money,
1091
01:20:57,652 --> 01:21:01,675
without the right to circulate
or be admitted to public institutions.
1092
01:21:01,841 --> 01:21:05,963
Life without administrative papers
becomes an endless waiting room.
1093
01:21:06,195 --> 01:21:09,586
[in English]
1094
01:21:17,896 --> 01:21:21,619
And it is not by an oak tree
that Orlando went to seek comfort.
1095
01:21:21,719 --> 01:21:25,309
They went to the highest authorities
of the Republic
1096
01:21:25,442 --> 01:21:27,636
to demand their recognition.
1097
01:21:49,662 --> 01:21:50,892
When I came back,
1098
01:21:50,971 --> 01:21:54,459
I, of course, had no right to anything.
1099
01:21:55,426 --> 01:21:56,922
Everything was over.
1100
01:21:57,786 --> 01:22:00,512
I had no papers,
everything was taken from me,
1101
01:22:01,642 --> 01:22:02,872
as usual.
1102
01:22:03,005 --> 01:22:07,891
When I think that society is everything,
society is nothing really.
1103
01:22:08,975 --> 01:22:10,205
It takes everything.
1104
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:18,359
And what I ask is immediately,
1105
01:22:18,437 --> 01:22:21,030
right away, if I've come here,
1106
01:22:21,055 --> 01:22:25,476
respect for myself
and for everyone who looks like me.
1107
01:22:26,506 --> 01:22:30,429
Otherwise, it's no use.
But society won't be able to kill me.
1108
01:22:46,677 --> 01:22:48,074
I'm Emma.
1109
01:22:49,004 --> 01:22:52,927
And in this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1110
01:22:55,646 --> 01:22:58,305
I've already lived for almost 400 years.
1111
01:22:59,149 --> 01:23:00,645
I've seen many things.
1112
01:23:02,268 --> 01:23:04,196
The colonization of America...
1113
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,516
of Africa...
1114
01:23:06,941 --> 01:23:08,370
and of Asia
1115
01:23:08,563 --> 01:23:09,992
by Europe.
1116
01:23:10,178 --> 01:23:13,336
I've seen the extermination
of the first peoples,
1117
01:23:13,762 --> 01:23:15,557
the arrival of capitalism,
1118
01:23:16,148 --> 01:23:18,409
the rise of industrial production,
1119
01:23:19,107 --> 01:23:21,201
the destruction of nature.
1120
01:23:21,614 --> 01:23:23,376
They went that far.
1121
01:23:24,672 --> 01:23:26,201
I've seen...
1122
01:23:27,018 --> 01:23:30,974
the invention of normative heterosexuality
1123
01:23:31,772 --> 01:23:33,534
and the nuclear family.
1124
01:23:34,198 --> 01:23:37,223
With this belief that as a woman,
1125
01:23:37,344 --> 01:23:40,701
if you're not married
or you haven't given birth,
1126
01:23:41,798 --> 01:23:44,092
you're useless, you don't exist.
1127
01:23:45,521 --> 01:23:47,050
I've seen...
1128
01:23:48,346 --> 01:23:53,514
Oh yes, also the invention of the notion
of transsexuality and intersexuality
1129
01:23:53,592 --> 01:23:55,753
at the end of the 19th century.
1130
01:23:56,657 --> 01:24:00,969
With the aim of excluding us
from the human world
1131
01:24:02,408 --> 01:24:04,635
and making us look like monsters.
1132
01:24:05,266 --> 01:24:07,602
I've also seen...
1133
01:24:08,757 --> 01:24:13,244
the arrival of a new generation
that wanted to live like me,
1134
01:24:13,444 --> 01:24:17,186
without law, without God,
without gender.
1135
01:24:19,668 --> 01:24:23,908
But despite this growing visibility
1136
01:24:23,949 --> 01:24:27,572
of transgender and non-binary people,
1137
01:24:28,668 --> 01:24:31,053
I am in political limbo.
1138
01:24:32,092 --> 01:24:33,717
Without papers.
1139
01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:37,072
Without a real existence.
1140
01:24:40,436 --> 01:24:41,732
Why?
1141
01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:45,920
Is it so complicated
to give us new papers?
1142
01:24:48,008 --> 01:24:49,138
Why
1143
01:24:49,822 --> 01:24:52,049
does someone else, a judge,
1144
01:24:52,443 --> 01:24:53,839
a psychiatrist,
1145
01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:56,905
claim to know more than me
1146
01:24:57,355 --> 01:24:59,084
about my identity?
1147
01:25:01,384 --> 01:25:03,145
To deny our identity
1148
01:25:04,011 --> 01:25:05,972
is to erase us from society.
1149
01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:08,388
We don't exist.
1150
01:25:09,608 --> 01:25:13,833
It's to refuse we have rights
like others, like binary people.
1151
01:25:14,793 --> 01:25:16,336
But I...
1152
01:25:17,347 --> 01:25:19,641
I want to give myself this identity.
1153
01:25:20,733 --> 01:25:24,455
But I'll recognize myself,
I don't need this paper.
1154
01:25:24,534 --> 01:25:26,196
I'll have it one day.
1155
01:25:27,792 --> 01:25:30,675
But I give myself this paper, me.
1156
01:25:30,976 --> 01:25:34,101
I will be Emma, Orlando
1157
01:25:35,217 --> 01:25:37,111
and I'll walk toward life.
1158
01:25:37,171 --> 01:25:39,431
Brave, happy...
1159
01:25:40,636 --> 01:25:43,174
I will be proud and joyful...
1160
01:25:44,765 --> 01:25:45,995
to be here...
1161
01:25:46,852 --> 01:25:48,115
with you.
1162
01:25:49,610 --> 01:25:51,206
I'll recognize myself
1163
01:25:52,708 --> 01:25:54,304
and I'll love myself.
1164
01:26:24,281 --> 01:26:26,691
I'm Koriangelis Brawns.
1165
01:26:26,742 --> 01:26:31,296
In this film I'll be
Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1166
01:26:33,556 --> 01:26:35,838
But what is an identity document,
1167
01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:39,119
if not a piece of paper
written and printed,
1168
01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:42,412
a small booklet
containing a political fiction?
1169
01:26:42,963 --> 01:26:46,121
Shared fictions
that we have collectively constructed
1170
01:26:46,184 --> 01:26:50,824
and that we forget
we can question, modify, change.
1171
01:26:50,908 --> 01:26:55,794
Or, to put it another way, fictions
that we can lay on an operating table.
1172
01:26:57,523 --> 01:26:59,916
Sometimes they're really difficult.
1173
01:27:00,016 --> 01:27:02,979
But... we're here!
1174
01:27:03,473 --> 01:27:04,769
It's a big operation.
1175
01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:10,385
Historically, trans people have been seen
as bodies that require medical surgery
1176
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,416
to restore continuity
between anatomy and gender.
1177
01:27:14,842 --> 01:27:18,043
Me too, I have been
on this operating table.
1178
01:27:18,598 --> 01:27:21,423
Where did you get the idea,
Virginia of a character
1179
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:23,792
who changes sex
in the middle of the novel?
1180
01:27:23,903 --> 01:27:27,659
Some say it was the desire
to imagine that Vita, your lover,
1181
01:27:27,706 --> 01:27:31,259
would not lose her inheritance rights
because she was a woman.
1182
01:27:31,456 --> 01:27:36,842
But the idea of trans character,
in 1928, was not sir simply a literary utopia.
1183
01:27:36,867 --> 01:27:41,324
When you wrote Orlando there were
already people in Europe and the US
1184
01:27:41,402 --> 01:27:45,230
who did not identify with the gender
they had been assigned at birth
1185
01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:46,893
and wanted to change it.
1186
01:27:46,979 --> 01:27:52,970
Between 1900 and 1920, the first
sex change operations hit the news.
1187
01:27:53,104 --> 01:27:55,968
Then, with the discovery
of synthetic hormones,
1188
01:27:56,007 --> 01:28:00,400
some people began experimenting
with producing a new trans body
1189
01:28:00,502 --> 01:28:04,424
at the Magnus Hirschfeld Institute
of Sexology in Berlin.
1190
01:28:05,069 --> 01:28:09,868
You, Virginia, intrepid reader,
could not ignore these discourses.
1191
01:28:13,014 --> 01:28:19,232
Who is operated on when our bodies lie on
the operating tables of the Binary Empire?
1192
01:28:21,731 --> 01:28:26,518
Our bodies are discursive artefacts,
assemblages of fiction and flesh.
1193
01:28:26,651 --> 01:28:30,333
To operate is to intervene
not only in anatomy,
1194
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,793
but to cut into political fiction.
1195
01:29:51,275 --> 01:29:53,270
In your Orlando, you included
1196
01:29:53,369 --> 01:29:56,029
images of Vita and her ancestors.
1197
01:29:56,228 --> 01:30:00,038
But the real Orlandos of history
remained invisible.
1198
01:30:51,816 --> 01:30:56,536
We never operate on individual bodies.
We operate on the political history.
1199
01:30:56,702 --> 01:31:00,228
It is the regime of sexual difference
we have to operate on.
1200
01:31:00,357 --> 01:31:04,845
There are so many historical discourses
on which we must intervene.
1201
01:31:27,682 --> 01:31:31,605
That's me,
a non-binary 5-year-old Orlando
1202
01:31:31,671 --> 01:31:33,435
in the Spanish carnival,
1203
01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:38,080
accompanied by the fictions
of normative femininity and masculinity.
1204
01:31:40,672 --> 01:31:46,903
I'm Eleonore. In this film
I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1205
01:31:46,928 --> 01:31:50,352
What have we done with the trans
and non-binary children that we were?
1206
01:31:50,412 --> 01:31:54,244
Christine Jorgensen,
the first trans woman in the media,
1207
01:31:54,355 --> 01:31:59,556
was a film editor before she lost her job
when she became a woman.
1208
01:31:59,687 --> 01:32:02,770
She said that to be trans
was to have the possibility
1209
01:32:02,831 --> 01:32:04,792
to edit the film of her life
differently.
1210
01:32:04,966 --> 01:32:07,725
I'm Lilie. In this film
1211
01:32:07,904 --> 01:32:09,865
I'll be Orlando.
1212
01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:12,318
Of Virginia Woolf.
1213
01:32:12,517 --> 01:32:15,842
- Virginia Woolf.
- Virginia Woolf!
1214
01:32:15,975 --> 01:32:18,002
I was told not to say it.
1215
01:32:24,099 --> 01:32:25,130
Cut!
1216
01:32:27,615 --> 01:32:31,815
And it is for the right to edit our lives
that we are still fighting today.
1217
01:32:31,871 --> 01:32:36,990
I'm Artur. In this film
I'll play Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
1218
01:32:38,187 --> 01:32:40,004
I'm a trans girl.
1219
01:32:40,029 --> 01:32:43,726
I live in Arroyo de Sansilva.
Over the last 4 years,
1220
01:32:43,780 --> 01:32:48,168
I was on a very important path,
the path to my happiness.
1221
01:32:48,193 --> 01:32:51,062
But it's still necessary to remember
1222
01:32:51,098 --> 01:32:54,223
I have the right to be called
how I feel.
1223
01:32:54,352 --> 01:32:55,582
4 years later,
1224
01:32:55,607 --> 01:32:58,531
mistakes over my name
are a bit strange,
1225
01:32:58,611 --> 01:33:02,001
as if anyone could doubt
I'm a trans girl.
1226
01:33:02,306 --> 01:33:04,482
Your Orlandos are still there.
1227
01:33:04,526 --> 01:33:10,102
Now, for the first time, they start
to speak up and to exist by themselves.
1228
01:33:10,551 --> 01:33:14,301
To choose their name
and to choose their own life.
1229
01:33:15,078 --> 01:33:19,003
The world to come
belongs to the new Orlandos.
1230
01:33:19,067 --> 01:33:21,763
They will edit the film of History.
1231
01:33:22,424 --> 01:33:26,165
It is for them that you wrote your book,
even without knowing it,
1232
01:33:26,255 --> 01:33:28,316
and that I made this film.
1233
01:33:28,501 --> 01:33:32,400
But of all I have to say today,
the main thing is this:
1234
01:33:32,486 --> 01:33:37,273
ladies and gentlemen involved in politics,
continue, despite the threats,
1235
01:33:37,298 --> 01:33:40,884
to make laws that recognize
that people are diverse.
1236
01:33:41,014 --> 01:33:46,013
Above all, we trans people
have the right to be who we are.
1237
01:33:46,038 --> 01:33:50,094
Don't let anyone take away our happiness.
Thank you.
1238
01:34:08,330 --> 01:34:09,793
Today...
1239
01:34:10,491 --> 01:34:13,925
Wednesday October 11, 2028,
1240
01:34:14,050 --> 01:34:18,674
faced with the collapse
of the patriarchal-colonial regime,
1241
01:34:18,727 --> 01:34:24,233
and by the powers given to me
by Virginia Woolf and literature,
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01:34:24,645 --> 01:34:26,241
I declare
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01:34:26,536 --> 01:34:31,488
the abolition of the assignment
of sexual difference at birth
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and its legal
and administrative registration.
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01:34:36,505 --> 01:34:38,035
Thus,
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01:34:38,522 --> 01:34:43,907
I grant
planetary, non-binary citizenship to
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Orlando Emma.
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01:35:00,958 --> 01:35:03,318
Orlando Jenny.
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01:35:05,572 --> 01:35:08,231
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
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01:35:13,716 --> 01:35:16,242
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
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01:35:22,187 --> 01:35:25,079
Orlando La Burette
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01:35:42,579 --> 01:35:45,271
Orlando Victor
1253
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,949
♪ You might be pathetic
But not apologetic ♪
1254
01:35:53,974 --> 01:35:55,935
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
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01:35:59,837 --> 01:36:01,731
♪ It's time to bite ♪
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01:36:05,873 --> 01:36:08,134
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
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01:36:08,215 --> 01:36:11,107
Orlando Noah
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01:36:15,215 --> 01:36:16,379
♪ No! No! ♪
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01:36:18,365 --> 01:36:20,891
Orlando Amir
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01:36:32,568 --> 01:36:33,432
♪ No! No! ♪
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01:36:33,457 --> 01:36:37,480
♪ Oh, Virginia
What have we done? ♪
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01:36:38,669 --> 01:36:41,428
♪ Do you want a job with us? ♪
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01:36:43,039 --> 01:36:46,030
♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪
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01:36:51,055 --> 01:36:53,781
Orlando Oscar
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01:36:56,233 --> 01:36:58,660
♪ I am your Orlando ♪
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01:36:59,281 --> 01:37:00,278
♪ Virginia ♪
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01:37:00,389 --> 01:37:05,441
♪ Do you really think that I could
Ever, ever live like that? ♪
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01:37:06,126 --> 01:37:08,320
♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪
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01:37:24,927 --> 01:37:29,116
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch
You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
1270
01:37:30,221 --> 01:37:32,515
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
1271
01:37:34,376 --> 01:37:36,935
♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪
1272
01:37:41,748 --> 01:37:45,804
♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪
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01:37:48,861 --> 01:37:51,388
- Here's to the judge!
- The judge!
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01:37:57,198 --> 01:38:01,619
♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪
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01:38:08,799 --> 01:38:12,023
I'm Virginie Despentes. In this film
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01:38:12,179 --> 01:38:15,899
I'll be the judge
of Virginia Woolf's Orlando.
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