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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:14,433 Someone once asked me: 2 00:01:14,946 --> 00:01:17,206 "Why don't you write your biography?" 3 00:01:17,687 --> 00:01:22,338 I replied: "Because fucking Virginia Woolf wrote my biography in 1928." 4 00:01:24,088 --> 00:01:26,880 I'm sorry I said "fucking" Virginia Woolf. 5 00:01:27,214 --> 00:01:29,608 I said it with tenderness and admiration 6 00:01:29,833 --> 00:01:33,589 because your writing seemed impossible to surpass. 7 00:01:34,214 --> 00:01:35,098 But also, 8 00:01:35,237 --> 00:01:39,751 I say it with rage because you represented us trans people 9 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:42,260 as aristocrats in colonial England, 10 00:01:42,386 --> 00:01:45,776 who, one fine day, wake up in a woman's body. 11 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,213 You didn't know, perhaps, this was not how one became trans. 12 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:53,068 It was much more difficult. 13 00:01:53,254 --> 00:01:55,349 We risk our lives every time. 14 00:01:56,099 --> 00:01:59,689 And I wanted to write to tell you I am one of your Orlandos. 15 00:01:59,936 --> 00:02:02,928 I am alive. I came out of your fiction. 16 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,728 The contemporary world is full of Orlandos. 17 00:02:06,812 --> 00:02:09,040 ORLANDO, WHERE ARE YOU? 18 00:02:09,125 --> 00:02:11,817 We're changing the course of history. 19 00:02:12,207 --> 00:02:14,360 HAVE YOU SEEN ORLANDO? 20 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,677 FROM LOVE THEY HAD SUFFERED THE TORTURES OF THE DAMNED 21 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:22,679 So I decided to write a letter to you, 22 00:02:22,704 --> 00:02:27,258 who had written thousands of letters and received thousands more. 23 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:29,887 I might as well write you a letter 24 00:02:30,099 --> 00:02:33,456 now you are, in the organic sense, dead, 25 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,122 even though, in inorganic terms, 26 00:02:35,147 --> 00:02:37,374 you have never been as alive as now. 27 00:02:39,255 --> 00:02:42,114 It's one of the things I've learned from reading you: 28 00:02:42,247 --> 00:02:47,731 life begins before we are born and, of course, ends long after we die. 29 00:02:48,662 --> 00:02:52,319 So, just as you wrote my biography before I was born, 30 00:02:52,452 --> 00:02:55,576 I decided to send you a letter after your death. 31 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:57,039 Dear Virginia, 32 00:02:57,305 --> 00:03:00,330 I'm writing to you as I think I'm your Orlando. 33 00:03:00,529 --> 00:03:02,125 We should meet. 34 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:05,017 I feel I'm changing fast, So don't delay. 35 00:03:05,216 --> 00:03:09,371 I'd like to show you all my metamorphoses and crash tests. 36 00:03:46,336 --> 00:03:47,765 I'm Janis Sahraoui. 37 00:03:47,965 --> 00:03:51,787 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 38 00:03:55,311 --> 00:03:57,106 I love my name. 39 00:03:57,904 --> 00:04:00,364 It is very important to me and... 40 00:04:01,195 --> 00:04:04,186 My mother gave it to me, I'm very attached to her. 41 00:04:04,386 --> 00:04:07,294 I lost my mother when I was a child, at 7. 42 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:12,563 And it's something I really want to keep from her. It's something that's... 43 00:04:12,763 --> 00:04:16,763 important to me, because I know she chose my name. 44 00:04:17,117 --> 00:04:19,486 I like the way it sounds. 45 00:04:19,511 --> 00:04:24,174 There is something very musical and even very non-binary, in fact. 46 00:04:26,691 --> 00:04:28,752 I'm Oscar Rosza Miller. 47 00:04:29,217 --> 00:04:32,209 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 48 00:04:40,154 --> 00:04:43,877 Orlando,was a name friends wanted to give me when I started 49 00:04:44,010 --> 00:04:45,472 my gender transition. 50 00:04:45,672 --> 00:04:48,198 I didn't feel capable of bearing this name. 51 00:04:48,364 --> 00:04:52,852 Perhaps I was held back by the aristocratic semblance of the character, 52 00:04:53,051 --> 00:04:58,303 by the English thickness of his blood, by his pale face and blond curls... 53 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:02,672 Nothing could be further from the existence 54 00:05:02,697 --> 00:05:05,184 of the son of a garage owner and a seamstress 55 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:08,874 in an anonymous town in the north of Spain than the life of Orlando, 56 00:05:09,007 --> 00:05:13,262 inspired by your lover Vita Sackville-West. 57 00:05:14,126 --> 00:05:18,148 Maybe that's why I called myself Paul and not Orlando. 58 00:05:22,137 --> 00:05:25,761 Would you tell me the story of Orlando by Virginia Woolf? 59 00:05:25,894 --> 00:05:28,387 Orlando is a young boy, a teenager, 60 00:05:28,653 --> 00:05:31,179 and at the end of the book, 61 00:05:31,345 --> 00:05:34,303 it's a woman in her thirties. 62 00:05:34,503 --> 00:05:36,797 Well, this person changes bodies in the middle of the book. 63 00:05:36,963 --> 00:05:38,160 Oh, yeah? 64 00:05:38,559 --> 00:05:41,085 We don't know how long this person will live 65 00:05:41,251 --> 00:05:44,243 because we go through centuries during the book, 66 00:05:44,442 --> 00:05:46,204 while Orlando is only 30. 67 00:05:46,570 --> 00:05:49,827 It's inspired by a person who really existed. 68 00:05:49,994 --> 00:05:50,791 Oh, OK. 69 00:05:51,523 --> 00:05:53,517 The girlfriend of the chick who wrote it. 70 00:05:54,448 --> 00:05:55,778 Turn your face. 71 00:05:55,944 --> 00:05:58,271 - You're a bit of an Orlando. - Yeah! 72 00:05:58,437 --> 00:06:00,165 You too! 73 00:06:01,395 --> 00:06:03,589 We all have a bit of Orlando in us. 74 00:06:07,345 --> 00:06:09,340 This is the child Orlando. 75 00:06:11,567 --> 00:06:14,559 Now I define myself as a non-binary person, 76 00:06:15,057 --> 00:06:17,118 but I consider myself changing. 77 00:06:17,384 --> 00:06:21,207 Their style was not similar to that of men of letters of their time, 78 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,228 nor to that of the women. 79 00:06:24,873 --> 00:06:27,627 There can be no doubt about my sex... 80 00:06:28,686 --> 00:06:31,645 though the fashion of my time disguises it. 81 00:06:31,711 --> 00:06:37,942 The clothes, my whole corporality is very important as the way I want to be seen... 82 00:06:38,227 --> 00:06:41,055 it's really not like a man or a woman. 83 00:06:41,252 --> 00:06:45,780 Around the fact that Orlando is transitioning, 84 00:06:46,205 --> 00:06:48,399 it's not stigmatized in the book... 85 00:06:48,565 --> 00:06:51,457 It's beautiful to see it like that because... 86 00:06:51,623 --> 00:06:57,121 Actually, this is not the point... You just let it flow. 87 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,205 It's just a person who unfolds their life. 88 00:07:01,396 --> 00:07:04,022 To have written this at that time, 89 00:07:04,221 --> 00:07:06,168 it's incredible. 90 00:07:06,449 --> 00:07:10,320 And it's also an extremely feminist book. 91 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:14,327 It's also a big "fuck you" to the patriarchy! 92 00:07:14,559 --> 00:07:18,116 He never loses, or she never loses, 93 00:07:18,316 --> 00:07:22,571 the connection to nature and their love for... 94 00:07:22,737 --> 00:07:25,596 for trees. There's a real sensitivity. 95 00:07:25,762 --> 00:07:30,382 I took my first hormones in a park. I was in a park in Paris 96 00:07:30,914 --> 00:07:34,172 and I sat down and meditated. 97 00:07:34,338 --> 00:07:37,296 and I was surrounded by nature next to my house 98 00:07:37,496 --> 00:07:39,823 and it felt good. I said to myself 99 00:07:40,022 --> 00:07:43,252 that I wanted this moment to be important. 100 00:07:43,313 --> 00:07:47,762 This was the first image I wanted to keep, 101 00:07:47,787 --> 00:07:50,181 so it's funny to be here. 102 00:08:03,657 --> 00:08:05,219 I love to feel... 103 00:08:06,649 --> 00:08:11,036 beneath all this summer transiency, the earth's spine beneath me. 104 00:08:13,995 --> 00:08:15,657 I lean against it 105 00:08:16,156 --> 00:08:19,280 for the hard root of the oak trée is that to me; 106 00:08:19,613 --> 00:08:23,735 it is the back of a great horse that I ride... 107 00:08:24,798 --> 00:08:27,291 Or the deck of a tumbling ship - 108 00:08:27,989 --> 00:08:30,449 it is anything indeed hard, 109 00:08:30,915 --> 00:08:35,469 for I feel the need of something which I could attach my floating heart to. 110 00:08:36,898 --> 00:08:39,092 This heart that tugs at my side: 111 00:08:39,425 --> 00:08:44,610 this heart filled with spiced, amorous gales 112 00:08:44,810 --> 00:08:46,106 every evening 113 00:08:46,671 --> 00:08:48,100 about this time 114 00:08:49,364 --> 00:08:51,425 when I walk out. 115 00:08:52,821 --> 00:08:55,048 I tie it to the oak tree... 116 00:08:58,605 --> 00:09:01,497 and as I lay here, 117 00:09:02,627 --> 00:09:06,608 gradually the flutter in and about me stills itself; 118 00:09:07,646 --> 00:09:09,608 the little leaves hang. 119 00:09:11,702 --> 00:09:13,464 The deer stops; 120 00:09:14,029 --> 00:09:16,588 the pale summer clouds stay; 121 00:09:17,353 --> 00:09:20,743 my limbs grow heavy on the ground, 122 00:09:22,505 --> 00:09:26,029 and I lay so still 123 00:09:26,295 --> 00:09:31,451 that by degrees the deer steps nearer and the rooks wheel round me 124 00:09:31,514 --> 00:09:35,669 and the swallows dip and circle and the dragonflies shoot past, 125 00:09:35,802 --> 00:09:39,690 as if all the fertility and amorous activity of a summer's evening 126 00:09:39,791 --> 00:09:41,951 weaves its web about my body. 127 00:10:07,979 --> 00:10:11,071 My taste is broad, I love flowers, 128 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:15,824 simple flowers, the wild have a fascination for me. 129 00:10:17,387 --> 00:10:18,916 I love solitary places, 130 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:21,234 vast views, 131 00:10:21,642 --> 00:10:26,643 and the charm of feeling for ever and ever and ever alone. 132 00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:28,391 When I was a child, 133 00:10:28,416 --> 00:10:30,909 I remember never being able to choose 134 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:34,107 and I think that feeling stayed with me. 135 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,667 I don't want to choose one thing or another, 136 00:10:36,833 --> 00:10:40,356 I want to be able to make an explosive mix. 137 00:10:40,656 --> 00:10:43,780 That's always been the case. I think that this thing 138 00:10:43,946 --> 00:10:47,902 that my parents call "phases”, or what I like to call 139 00:10:48,441 --> 00:10:50,650 passages of my life, are epochs. 140 00:10:50,748 --> 00:10:52,975 Life is not at all like a biography. 141 00:10:54,364 --> 00:10:58,021 It is not a series of episodes or sentimental adventures 142 00:10:58,632 --> 00:11:00,494 or descriptive scenes 143 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:05,576 or even the servitude of daily existence. 144 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:10,839 But it consists in the metamorphosis of oneself, 145 00:11:11,537 --> 00:11:14,030 letting oneself be transformed by time, 146 00:11:15,659 --> 00:11:18,384 becoming not only other, but others. 147 00:11:22,540 --> 00:11:25,764 In your novel, at certain moments in the story, 148 00:11:25,864 --> 00:11:27,858 driven by extreme suffering, 149 00:11:28,058 --> 00:11:30,351 Orlando sleeps for a week, 150 00:11:30,551 --> 00:11:32,379 a month, a year... 151 00:11:33,263 --> 00:11:36,561 That is how Orlando crosses the centuries. 152 00:11:37,565 --> 00:11:39,260 I remember reading your novel 153 00:11:39,312 --> 00:11:42,171 before I knew that sex change really existed, 154 00:11:42,651 --> 00:11:46,207 or at least before I met someone who had gone, through it 155 00:11:46,340 --> 00:11:48,335 when I was 14 or 15. 156 00:11:49,266 --> 00:11:53,687 In your book, Orlando’s sex change happens in his sleep. 157 00:11:53,853 --> 00:11:59,060 I thought that if it happened to Orlando, maybe it could also happen to me. 158 00:12:00,102 --> 00:12:03,726 Then sleep became for me the magical realm in which 159 00:12:03,859 --> 00:12:06,152 the gender transition took place. 160 00:12:06,318 --> 00:12:10,806 Perhaps this explains why I sleep so much and so well. 161 00:12:11,138 --> 00:12:14,723 That's why nights have become silent waiting rooms 162 00:12:14,748 --> 00:12:20,476 in which, immersed in my thoughts, I wait for the change to take place. 163 00:12:21,078 --> 00:12:24,934 I imagined the beds as a dreamlike, painless operating table 164 00:12:25,067 --> 00:12:26,870 where my lying body 165 00:12:26,895 --> 00:12:28,424 was re-coded. 166 00:12:28,557 --> 00:12:31,599 I believed sleep could act on the body 167 00:12:31,624 --> 00:12:34,682 like a chemical process acts on an element. 168 00:12:34,707 --> 00:12:38,903 I thought sleep was like freezing, or like evaporation: 169 00:12:38,928 --> 00:12:44,390 a process that induces a change in form but not in meaning. 170 00:12:53,330 --> 00:12:57,552 There are parts of Orlando's life, dear Virginia, that you forgot to tell. 171 00:12:57,663 --> 00:13:02,039 So I have to tell you about them if I am to make their biography, 172 00:13:02,064 --> 00:13:04,225 that is to say, my biography. 173 00:13:05,322 --> 00:13:09,651 You write about the meeting of Orlando and Queen Elizabeth 174 00:13:09,676 --> 00:13:15,415 as a confrontation between Orlando's free, poetic and still childish spirit 175 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,933 and the violence of the imperial power. 176 00:13:20,147 --> 00:13:24,610 But you forgot to mention a second, equally important confrontation. 177 00:13:24,635 --> 00:13:30,042 From the 19th century on, those who, like Orlando, cross gender boundaries, 178 00:13:30,067 --> 00:13:32,527 are confronted with the power of psychiatry. 179 00:13:37,732 --> 00:13:40,466 Look at your Orlandos... They did not live 180 00:13:40,491 --> 00:13:42,613 as aristocrats or poets, 181 00:13:42,638 --> 00:13:46,427 they were reduced to being patients of psychiatry. 182 00:13:47,571 --> 00:13:50,962 You also knew a lot about psychiatry. 183 00:13:51,128 --> 00:13:54,353 You were like us, asylum fodder. 184 00:13:54,718 --> 00:14:00,038 Not as a trans person, or as a lesbian (you were in the closet about that) 185 00:14:00,063 --> 00:14:02,224 but as a great melancholic. 186 00:14:02,962 --> 00:14:05,987 Look, that one is me. 187 00:14:06,153 --> 00:14:10,383 I too ended up in a psychiatrist's office for the first time at 14, 188 00:14:10,408 --> 00:14:14,033 when my parents realized that I was... They used to say 189 00:14:14,058 --> 00:14:16,186 "too masculine a woman". 190 00:14:17,555 --> 00:14:22,009 Then I had to go back again when I wanted to get a legal gender change. 191 00:14:24,901 --> 00:14:26,929 That's what you didn't say. 192 00:14:27,195 --> 00:14:30,386 Neither in "Orlando” nor in "A Room of One's Own". 193 00:14:31,649 --> 00:14:34,013 You were one of us. 194 00:14:39,594 --> 00:14:41,090 Orlando. 195 00:14:42,154 --> 00:14:44,215 Orlando Kristin, please. 196 00:14:44,381 --> 00:14:46,076 Yes, that's me. 197 00:14:46,708 --> 00:14:48,538 I'm Liz Kristin. 198 00:14:48,769 --> 00:14:52,492 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 199 00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:59,225 I'm Frédéric Pierrot. In this film I'll be Dr. Queen, a psychiatrist. 200 00:15:01,301 --> 00:15:02,996 Please sit down. 201 00:15:07,051 --> 00:15:10,874 Before we start, I must inform you that there will be 202 00:15:10,974 --> 00:15:13,700 an additional fee of 80 euros, 203 00:15:13,866 --> 00:15:17,390 compared to the rates covered by the social security. 204 00:15:17,556 --> 00:15:19,450 No checks or credit cards. 205 00:15:19,849 --> 00:15:21,711 Yes, I know. 206 00:15:22,110 --> 00:15:23,539 Very well. 207 00:15:25,135 --> 00:15:28,060 So, you were sent by your mother. 208 00:15:29,057 --> 00:15:32,049 According to her, you persist 209 00:15:32,149 --> 00:15:36,404 in dressing as a girl and talking about yourself in the feminine. 210 00:15:37,534 --> 00:15:40,846 Yes, I had a fight with her. 211 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:43,384 The question I ask myself is: 212 00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:47,506 How and for what reason did you believe yourself... 213 00:15:49,301 --> 00:15:50,897 How can I put it? 214 00:15:51,229 --> 00:15:52,700 ...authorized 215 00:15:52,725 --> 00:15:55,318 to wear a skirt as a young man? 216 00:15:56,182 --> 00:15:57,944 I am not a man. 217 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:00,204 So you're a woman? 218 00:16:00,736 --> 00:16:03,091 I wouldn't exactly say that either. 219 00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:05,902 But what is really your sex? 220 00:16:07,251 --> 00:16:09,080 There's no doubt about my sex 221 00:16:09,105 --> 00:16:12,105 though the fashion of my time disguises it. 222 00:16:12,537 --> 00:16:14,731 Would you say your father is masculine? 223 00:16:15,595 --> 00:16:17,490 Yes, very masculine. 224 00:16:17,955 --> 00:16:21,844 He went on the crusades and brought back a lot of Moorish heads. 225 00:16:22,410 --> 00:16:23,573 Indeed. 226 00:16:24,803 --> 00:16:29,224 So he is not the problem, you do not identify with him? 227 00:16:29,903 --> 00:16:30,668 No. 228 00:16:30,693 --> 00:16:34,682 So you have a female identification. 229 00:16:34,835 --> 00:16:38,159 You think... you feel 230 00:16:38,312 --> 00:16:40,539 confined, 231 00:16:40,725 --> 00:16:44,118 trapped, locked up in your male body, right? 232 00:16:44,143 --> 00:16:48,797 What an obsession with the binary. No, I am... 233 00:16:49,003 --> 00:16:52,218 a living body trapped in a normative regime. 234 00:16:52,406 --> 00:16:53,935 Sorry. I don't understand. 235 00:16:54,260 --> 00:16:58,210 I will try to ask you a more direct question. 236 00:16:58,377 --> 00:17:03,277 Do you hate your sexual organs, for example, your penis? 237 00:17:03,363 --> 00:17:06,055 No, I have a female penis 238 00:17:06,222 --> 00:17:08,349 and I have no problem with that. 239 00:17:11,407 --> 00:17:12,903 A female penis...? 240 00:17:15,928 --> 00:17:17,058 Interesting... 241 00:17:17,391 --> 00:17:21,646 But you must be talking about a fantasy, not a biological reality. 242 00:17:21,878 --> 00:17:24,504 Is your sperm female? 243 00:17:25,169 --> 00:17:27,130 Of course. 244 00:17:28,128 --> 00:17:32,349 Organs and body fluids are neither male nor female. 245 00:17:33,479 --> 00:17:36,870 The discourse of sexual binarism is an invention of modernity. 246 00:17:40,128 --> 00:17:45,663 Well, do you often have these kinds of ideas, or thoughts? 247 00:17:46,244 --> 00:17:49,467 When reading poetry... 248 00:17:54,455 --> 00:17:56,999 I think I suffer from... 249 00:17:57,181 --> 00:17:59,199 literature-sickness. 250 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:05,125 Poetry...? 251 00:18:05,358 --> 00:18:06,721 Fascinating. 252 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:11,549 Well, we'll look at all that in detail. Follow me. 253 00:18:29,591 --> 00:18:31,386 Does anyone want one? 254 00:18:33,181 --> 00:18:34,344 I do. 255 00:18:39,098 --> 00:18:42,547 Yes, I do. I'm waiting for a prescription. 256 00:18:43,253 --> 00:18:46,246 So be careful what you say to him, 257 00:18:46,278 --> 00:18:50,018 because Dr. Queen is very strict. 258 00:18:50,898 --> 00:18:53,267 If you tell him you're non-binary, 259 00:18:53,292 --> 00:18:57,580 he'll send you home with a kick in the ass 260 00:18:57,746 --> 00:18:59,459 and no pills. 261 00:19:01,004 --> 00:19:02,608 You have to tell him 262 00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,901 that you hate your genitals 263 00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:08,235 and you want to be a straight woman. 264 00:19:08,915 --> 00:19:10,333 But I don't! 265 00:19:10,478 --> 00:19:13,270 - Do you want your pills or not? - Yes. 266 00:19:13,436 --> 00:19:17,992 So shut your mouth and act like a good girl. 267 00:19:22,511 --> 00:19:24,647 You must be freaking out, Virginia, 268 00:19:24,672 --> 00:19:26,940 seeing your Orlandos exchanging hormones. 269 00:19:26,965 --> 00:19:30,464 You know, in the 20th century, just after you died, 270 00:19:30,489 --> 00:19:32,724 horrfiones started to be marketed 271 00:19:32,749 --> 00:19:36,635 by the pharmacological industry, but not just for us 272 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:40,434 trans people, but mostly for the birth control pill. 273 00:19:40,694 --> 00:19:44,949 The hormones for trans women and those for the pill are exactly the same. 274 00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:48,913 The only difference is that, for cis heterosexual women, 275 00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:51,023 the prescription is automatic, 276 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:56,186 whereas, for trans women, it depends on a psychiatric diagnosis. 277 00:19:57,302 --> 00:19:59,166 Anyone want some 17? 278 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:02,241 Well, yeah, I do. 279 00:20:02,409 --> 00:20:04,702 I've waited 2 months for my prescription. 280 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,427 - Shall I give you an injection? - Yeah. 281 00:20:07,453 --> 00:20:10,025 - A little 1507 - Yeah. 282 00:20:10,186 --> 00:20:11,283 OK... 283 00:20:12,041 --> 00:20:14,533 Drop your pants, my little darling. 284 00:20:23,895 --> 00:20:24,926 OK? 285 00:20:25,737 --> 00:20:26,601 Here goes... 286 00:20:30,057 --> 00:20:32,617 Look, bitch, this little shit 287 00:20:34,179 --> 00:20:36,406 Do you want to know what's in it? 288 00:20:37,071 --> 00:20:39,132 Your Liberation! 289 00:20:54,556 --> 00:20:58,346 Don't let Freud, don't let Lacan 290 00:20:58,512 --> 00:21:01,936 Get in your dreams and your mind fuck 291 00:21:02,434 --> 00:21:04,229 Who owns your history? 292 00:21:04,362 --> 00:21:07,952 God? The state? Psychiatry? The law? 293 00:21:08,052 --> 00:21:10,578 The corporations? 294 00:21:11,277 --> 00:21:13,205 Anyone but you! 295 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,329 It's time to bite 296 00:21:17,426 --> 00:21:21,249 You might be synthetic, but not apologetic 297 00:21:21,382 --> 00:21:23,809 You are not the doctor's bitch 298 00:21:25,304 --> 00:21:28,396 You might be synthetic, but not apologetic 299 00:21:30,191 --> 00:21:32,518 You are not the doctor's bitch 300 00:21:37,105 --> 00:21:40,795 Their categories are pathetic 301 00:21:41,227 --> 00:21:44,185 You are much more poetic 302 00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:48,507 Prosthetic but magnetic 303 00:21:49,105 --> 00:21:52,330 You are not the doctor's bitch 304 00:21:53,094 --> 00:21:55,188 Look, Virginia 305 00:21:55,521 --> 00:21:57,848 What we have become! 306 00:21:58,579 --> 00:22:01,139 Do you want to come with us? 307 00:22:02,402 --> 00:22:05,626 Pharmacoliberation 308 00:22:06,557 --> 00:22:08,485 They say you are dysphoric 309 00:22:08,651 --> 00:22:10,413 But it's just metaphoric 310 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:12,607 They protect their privileges 311 00:22:12,773 --> 00:22:15,798 They are scared of beauty 312 00:22:15,931 --> 00:22:19,953 I am your Orlando, Virginia 313 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,142 Do you really think that I could ever, ever live like this? 314 00:22:26,103 --> 00:22:29,360 Pharmacoliberation 315 00:22:38,535 --> 00:22:40,850 Faced with the task of telling my biography, 316 00:22:40,875 --> 00:22:46,260 I find myself in the position you were in when you wanted to do Orlando's biography 317 00:22:46,313 --> 00:22:49,804 How to film the biography of a trans person today? 318 00:22:50,469 --> 00:22:55,170 Or to put it another way, how to construct an Orlandoesque life, 319 00:22:55,195 --> 00:23:00,680 a life of a gender poet in the midst of a binary and normative society? 320 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:05,095 I agree with you, fiction is not opposed to truth, 321 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:09,166 and every individual life is a collective history. 322 00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:18,857 I'm Ruben Rizza. In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 323 00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:24,209 The Great Frost was the most severe that has ever visited these islands. 324 00:23:24,441 --> 00:23:28,264 Birds froze in mid-air and fell like stones to the ground. 325 00:23:28,829 --> 00:23:32,419 The mortality among sheep and cattle was enormous. 326 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,876 Corpses froze and could not be drawn from the sheets. 327 00:23:36,741 --> 00:23:41,039 But while the country people suffered the extremity of want, 328 00:23:41,064 --> 00:23:44,272 and all trade was at a standstill, 329 00:23:44,297 --> 00:23:48,178 London enjoyed a carnival of the utmost brilliancy. 330 00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:53,161 Your Orlando, Virginia, is a book about the metamorphosis of subjectivity, 331 00:23:53,186 --> 00:23:55,860 not only about sex change. 332 00:23:55,896 --> 00:23:59,619 The first revolutionary metamorphosis is poetry, 333 00:23:59,644 --> 00:24:03,443 the possibility of changing the names of all things, 334 00:24:03,468 --> 00:24:05,511 including the proper name. 335 00:24:05,536 --> 00:24:09,857 The second and most profound metamorphosis is love. 336 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:14,520 That's why Orlando falls in love with the arrival of the Great Frost 337 00:24:14,545 --> 00:24:16,559 and the transformation of the state of water, 338 00:24:16,584 --> 00:24:19,735 the most essential of the elements, into ice. 339 00:24:20,461 --> 00:24:26,124 Your book was also a love letter to Vita, who was your lover for some months. 340 00:24:26,219 --> 00:24:29,012 When you met her, she was a successful writer, 341 00:24:29,037 --> 00:24:32,822 and you, too experimental were editor. 342 00:24:33,058 --> 00:24:36,171 For you, she was elusive. 343 00:24:36,256 --> 00:24:38,846 Rlch heiress of an aristocratic lineage 344 00:24:38,871 --> 00:24:41,996 and marred woman with multiple lesbian adventures, 345 00:24:42,021 --> 00:24:45,221 she would break your girly heart. 346 00:24:45,617 --> 00:24:50,193 Poetic justice Orlando would become your first great literary success 347 00:24:50,218 --> 00:24:54,639 and a scandalous book that Vita's family would try to ban. 348 00:24:55,031 --> 00:24:57,890 At night, the carnival was at its merriest. 349 00:24:58,236 --> 00:25:02,591 The moon and stars blazed with the hard fixity of diamonds, 350 00:25:02,616 --> 00:25:06,595 and to the fine music of flute and trumpet, 351 00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:09,070 the courtiers danced. 352 00:25:15,301 --> 00:25:20,257 I had just brought my feet together when I beheld, coming from the pavilion 353 00:25:20,282 --> 00:25:22,114 of the Muscovite Embassy, 354 00:25:22,139 --> 00:25:25,371 a figure, which, whether boy's or woman's, 355 00:25:25,396 --> 00:25:29,080 for the loose tunic and Russian trousers disguised the sex, 356 00:25:29,105 --> 00:25:31,631 filled me with the highest curiosity. 357 00:25:31,656 --> 00:25:36,061 The person, whatever the sex, was of medium height, 358 00:25:36,086 --> 00:25:40,467 very slenderly fashioned and dressed in oyster-coloured velvet, 359 00:25:40,492 --> 00:25:42,772 trimmed with unfamiliar green fur. 360 00:25:43,682 --> 00:25:48,336 When the boy, for-alas, a boy it must be 361 00:25:48,569 --> 00:25:52,400 no woman could skate with such speed and vigour 362 00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:56,133 swept almost on tiptoe past me, 363 00:25:56,248 --> 00:25:59,373 I was ready to tear my hair with vexation. 364 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,347 If the stranger was a man, all embraces were out of the question. 365 00:26:04,878 --> 00:26:06,174 They came closer. 366 00:26:07,557 --> 00:26:11,319 Legs, hands, carriage were a boy's, 367 00:26:11,912 --> 00:26:14,405 but no boy ever had a mouth like that; 368 00:26:14,903 --> 00:26:17,363 no boy had such a chest; 369 00:26:17,662 --> 00:26:20,297 no boy had eyes which looked 370 00:26:20,322 --> 00:26:22,383 as if fished from the seabed. 371 00:26:23,047 --> 00:26:26,812 Finally, coming to a stop and sweeping a curtsey 372 00:26:26,837 --> 00:26:32,699 with the utmost grace to the King, who was shuffling past, they stopped. 373 00:26:33,744 --> 00:26:35,872 They were not a handsbreadth off. 374 00:26:37,662 --> 00:26:40,056 I contemplated them, I trembled, 375 00:26:40,081 --> 00:26:42,541 I was hot, then cold, 376 00:26:42,959 --> 00:26:46,372 I burned to leap in the burning breaths of the summer, 377 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:49,899 to crush acorns, to embrace chains and paddles. 378 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,729 I decided to name him or her Sasha 379 00:26:53,895 --> 00:26:57,420 after a white fox I had as a child. 380 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:04,113 I'm Castiel Emery. In this film 381 00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:07,225 I'll be Sasha from Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 382 00:27:07,325 --> 00:27:11,979 Growing up, I had a lot of dysphoria... But I wasn't sure if it was 383 00:27:12,145 --> 00:27:16,873 gender dysphoria or if it was just that I didn't like my body, 384 00:27:16,898 --> 00:27:19,231 like most teenagers. 385 00:27:19,256 --> 00:27:20,389 I was 7 years old. 386 00:27:20,675 --> 00:27:25,594 As a child, I didn't really understand, because I think I wasn't mature enough 387 00:27:25,641 --> 00:27:28,408 to comprehend what was happening to me. 388 00:27:28,433 --> 00:27:32,921 But I was always in the in-between, whether it was in my clothes, 389 00:27:32,946 --> 00:27:36,943 my toys, my friendships, everything, 390 00:27:37,109 --> 00:27:41,264 I was always in-between. Even I felt in-between because 391 00:27:41,339 --> 00:27:45,835 I was told "You're a girl”, so I thought "I'm a girl”... 392 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:50,622 but I thought: "I'm not totally a girl but I don't know what else." 393 00:27:50,647 --> 00:27:54,370 No-one ever said to me: "Yes, you have gender dysphoria, 394 00:27:54,395 --> 00:27:57,885 I'm diagnosing you as transgender, transsexual.” 395 00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:01,523 On the contrary, I've had shrinks tell me: 396 00:28:01,548 --> 00:28:05,314 "No, it's just a phase, you're a woman, I know that." 397 00:28:05,339 --> 00:28:08,597 I started to feel bad about myself, 398 00:28:08,622 --> 00:28:13,346 I couldn't look at myself in the mirror, I couldn't stand myself. 399 00:28:13,449 --> 00:28:16,739 I was very angry, but we didn't know why. 400 00:28:16,766 --> 00:28:22,531 So, I saw several specialists, psychologists, psychiatrists. 401 00:28:22,623 --> 00:28:28,207 At first, they told me it was because of my weight. I was an overweight child. 402 00:28:28,267 --> 00:28:32,411 They said: "Hide the cookies, your child will get better." 403 00:28:32,436 --> 00:28:35,274 I've been trying to- take hormones since 2017 404 00:28:35,356 --> 00:28:39,875 and I still can't. I tried to go through the public health sector. 405 00:28:39,982 --> 00:28:44,456 But they thought I was too feminine in my clothing style, 406 00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:48,611 because I wear jewelry, I'm not a man. 407 00:28:48,777 --> 00:28:54,123 I started the puberty blocker treatment when I was 11 408 00:28:54,148 --> 00:28:58,612 because I started my female puberty, and it was really painful 409 00:28:58,698 --> 00:29:04,230 because I was seeing my body change, like absolutely... I wanted the opposite. 410 00:29:04,255 --> 00:29:07,825 I saw I was getting breasts and hips and I didn't want that. 411 00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:12,445 So I was put on a hormone blocker treatment for 3 years. 412 00:29:12,512 --> 00:29:15,998 I started testosterone in July, so 8 months ago. 413 00:29:16,068 --> 00:29:18,994 The top surgery really liberated me. 414 00:29:19,127 --> 00:29:23,209 It let me play more with my clothing style, 415 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:26,789 and with my way of being, in fact. 416 00:29:26,814 --> 00:29:28,476 It opened something up. 417 00:29:28,501 --> 00:29:31,966 I think the hormones will have exactly the same effect. 418 00:29:31,991 --> 00:29:36,504 So I think it'll have even more of an effect. 419 00:29:36,694 --> 00:29:38,032 I was so happy! 420 00:29:38,057 --> 00:29:42,293 It was everything I wanted for 4-5 years. I dreamed of it every night. 421 00:29:42,318 --> 00:29:45,669 At the beginning of my transition, I had the impression 422 00:29:45,694 --> 00:29:47,789 that I had to prove my masculinity, 423 00:29:47,814 --> 00:29:51,878 so I did everything to be extremely male: 424 00:29:51,903 --> 00:29:56,955 with very dark clothes, I walked in a caricatured way, 425 00:29:57,088 --> 00:29:59,932 rolling my shoulders like that, 426 00:29:59,957 --> 00:30:02,929 I spoke with a very deep voice, 427 00:30:02,954 --> 00:30:05,547 I had an angry look 428 00:30:05,572 --> 00:30:09,894 to have a very masculine appearance. 429 00:30:09,919 --> 00:30:15,371 And in fact, after about a year - I did it for a year - 430 00:30:15,537 --> 00:30:18,903 I realized it was ridiculous because... 431 00:30:18,928 --> 00:30:24,422 masculinity can come in many different forms. 432 00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:28,991 I still have a long way to go because I'm still young, I'm only 15, 433 00:30:29,016 --> 00:30:35,133 but it's true that I've already had a great journey with masculinity. 434 00:30:35,158 --> 00:30:39,213 I still have dysphoria about other things... 435 00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:45,836 Yes! But top surgery has helped me so much. Sometimes I see I don't feel well 436 00:30:45,861 --> 00:30:48,720 and I just remember that I had top surgery, 437 00:30:48,745 --> 00:30:53,839 I run a hand over my chest or see myself in a T-shirt, it changes everything. 438 00:30:53,864 --> 00:30:57,916 Today I define myself as a trans boy and not just as a boy. 439 00:30:57,941 --> 00:31:00,368 It's true that a lot of people ask me: 440 00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:03,055 "Why don't you just say you're a boy?" 441 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,843 But when I just present myself as a boy, I erase all that I lived 442 00:31:07,868 --> 00:31:13,327 as a trans person and... it deletes a part of my history, 443 00:31:13,352 --> 00:31:16,739 so I prefer to present myself as a trans boy. 444 00:31:16,845 --> 00:31:22,139 I feel that, in our society today, there is a lot of emphasis on love... 445 00:31:22,917 --> 00:31:28,126 on romantic love, for a couple two people, exclusivity, 446 00:31:28,151 --> 00:31:32,000 leading to a future where you live together, with children, 447 00:31:32,025 --> 00:31:35,771 and that's not at all what attracts me. 448 00:31:35,796 --> 00:31:39,242 It was with a person called Sasha 449 00:31:39,683 --> 00:31:42,710 who I met in a demonstration. 450 00:31:43,114 --> 00:31:46,970 And it's true that it was weird because... 451 00:31:47,682 --> 00:31:49,991 when I was younger, 452 00:31:50,129 --> 00:31:52,090 a year or two ago, 453 00:31:52,684 --> 00:31:56,607 everything to do with the other and above all, with love... 454 00:31:56,632 --> 00:32:01,765 I had the impression that as long as I hadn't finished my transition, 455 00:32:01,790 --> 00:32:03,741 and wasn't at ease with myself, 456 00:32:03,766 --> 00:32:08,534 It wasn't a good idea to want to be with someone else... 457 00:32:09,089 --> 00:32:14,893 because I wouldn't be mature enough within myself 458 00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:19,907 and I wouldn't have the right to do that. But I totally do. 459 00:32:20,325 --> 00:32:24,718 And on top of that, Sasha, who is also a trans boy, 460 00:32:25,051 --> 00:32:30,546 made me... feel understood very quickly, 461 00:32:30,571 --> 00:32:35,224 I felt supported very quickly by a person I didn't know. 462 00:32:35,284 --> 00:32:38,457 It was one of the first times. 463 00:32:38,648 --> 00:32:43,662 3 girls were hitting on me - Clorinda, Favilla, and Euphrosyne - 464 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,516 all very feminine, very binary, very straight... 465 00:32:47,683 --> 00:32:49,777 which I'm not. 466 00:32:50,774 --> 00:32:56,458 All would have made perfect wives for the nobleman I was supposed to be, 467 00:32:56,804 --> 00:32:59,497 but I wasn't interested in them. 468 00:33:00,414 --> 00:33:05,195 Lawyers were already doing marriage contracts 469 00:33:05,633 --> 00:33:10,987 with Lady Margaret, then came the Great Frost. 470 00:33:51,207 --> 00:33:56,658 Like Orlando, I too fell in love for the first time on a snowy day. 471 00:33:56,966 --> 00:33:59,093 I kissed a girl in the cold, 472 00:33:59,118 --> 00:34:02,617 the warmth of her mouth entered mine. 473 00:34:02,974 --> 00:34:05,933 I have never loved anyone like I love you. 474 00:34:06,165 --> 00:34:07,761 You are snow, 475 00:34:07,894 --> 00:34:09,157 cream, 476 00:34:09,323 --> 00:34:10,586 marble, 477 00:34:10,852 --> 00:34:12,149 cherries, 478 00:34:12,448 --> 00:34:13,944 you are alabaster, 479 00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:15,905 golden wire 480 00:34:16,404 --> 00:34:17,933 and none of these. 481 00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:21,323 You are an olive tree and a fox in the snow, 482 00:34:21,822 --> 00:34:24,049 you are a melon, a pine cone, 483 00:34:24,415 --> 00:34:25,911 you are spring, 484 00:34:26,576 --> 00:34:27,905 you are an emerald, 485 00:34:28,637 --> 00:34:31,794 you are the waves of the sea seen from a clifftop, 486 00:34:31,961 --> 00:34:35,617 you are the sun on a green hill which is yet clouded. 487 00:34:57,091 --> 00:35:00,349 But you noticed that I am neither a boy nor a girl. 488 00:35:00,482 --> 00:35:01,512 Yes. 489 00:35:01,678 --> 00:35:04,670 You're like nothing I've ever met before 490 00:35:05,302 --> 00:35:06,997 and that's why I love you. 491 00:35:13,978 --> 00:35:15,407 You know that... 492 00:35:15,926 --> 00:35:17,455 if I stay here 493 00:35:17,634 --> 00:35:19,728 I'll have to marry Lady Margaret, 494 00:35:20,499 --> 00:35:21,662 so... 495 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:23,518 let's leave together. 496 00:35:24,077 --> 00:35:25,672 you run away with me? 497 00:35:26,544 --> 00:35:28,140 Yes, yes. 498 00:35:28,804 --> 00:35:32,028 I'll come to meet you tomorrow at midnight. 499 00:35:33,059 --> 00:35:35,053 It will be the day of my life. 500 00:35:46,321 --> 00:35:47,786 Long before midnight, 501 00:35:48,309 --> 00:35:49,838 I was already waiting... 502 00:35:53,714 --> 00:35:55,744 listening for the slightest step, 503 00:35:56,234 --> 00:35:58,129 speculating on every sound. 504 00:35:58,754 --> 00:36:03,209 I was waiting for Sasha to come alone in her cloak and trousers, 505 00:36:03,681 --> 00:36:05,210 Booted like a man. 506 00:36:13,223 --> 00:36:19,031 Suddenly I was struck in the face by a blow, soft, yet heavy, 507 00:36:19,118 --> 00:36:20,713 on the side of my cheek. 508 00:36:21,332 --> 00:36:25,886 So tense was my expectation that I jumped and put my hand to my sword. 509 00:36:26,537 --> 00:36:30,061 The blow was repeated a dozen times on forehead and cheek. 510 00:36:31,066 --> 00:36:33,127 The dry frost had lasted so long 511 00:36:33,152 --> 00:36:36,976 that it took me a minute to realize they were raindrops. 512 00:36:38,308 --> 00:36:41,565 At first, they fell slowly, 513 00:36:41,710 --> 00:36:42,940 deliberately, 514 00:36:43,272 --> 00:36:44,502 one by one. 515 00:36:44,902 --> 00:36:48,093 But soon the six drops became sixty; 516 00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:49,806 then six hundred; 517 00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:54,506 then ran themselves together in a steady spout of water. 518 00:36:55,238 --> 00:36:58,629 It was as if the hard and consolidated sky 519 00:36:58,781 --> 00:37:01,540 poured itself forth in one profuse fountain. 520 00:37:24,252 --> 00:37:27,346 I knew then that Sasha was not coming. 521 00:37:50,154 --> 00:37:52,082 When the dawn broke, 522 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,103 a sight of the most extraordinary nature met my eyes. 523 00:37:57,050 --> 00:38:01,139 Where, for three months, there had been solid ice 524 00:38:01,164 --> 00:38:04,355 of such thickness that it seemed permanent as stone 525 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:07,571 and on this pavement a whole gay city rose. 526 00:38:08,295 --> 00:38:11,453 There was now a race of turbulent yellow waters. 527 00:38:11,952 --> 00:38:14,943 The river had gained its freedom in the night. 528 00:38:15,442 --> 00:38:18,002 All was riot and confusion. 529 00:38:19,617 --> 00:38:22,542 The river, strewn with icebergs, 530 00:38:23,295 --> 00:38:25,123 was melting. 531 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,490 In the summer that followed that winter famous for its disasters, 532 00:38:36,704 --> 00:38:40,195 for the frost, the floods, the arrival of viruses, 533 00:38:40,447 --> 00:38:44,170 the death of thousands of creatures, and the collapse of Orlando's hopes, 534 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:46,438 for they were exiled from Court, 535 00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:50,888 held in deep disgrace by the greatest names of their time. 536 00:38:50,913 --> 00:38:56,397 In that summer, therefore, Orlando retired to their knightly house in the country 537 00:38:56,556 --> 00:38:59,787 and lived there in total solitude. 538 00:39:01,749 --> 00:39:05,073 Orlando was not only suffering from their breakup with Sasha, 539 00:39:05,272 --> 00:39:08,172 but also from the solitude, shame, 540 00:39:08,197 --> 00:39:11,031 and rejection caused by their difference. 541 00:39:11,056 --> 00:39:14,576 Orlando understood that their non-binary condition 542 00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,970 could not be explained by the family heritage. 543 00:39:18,137 --> 00:39:20,339 He had to go down into the crypt 544 00:39:20,463 --> 00:39:25,218 where, at the bottom of the coffins, piled up one on top of the other, 545 00:39:25,283 --> 00:39:29,738 generations of unknown and forgotten ancestors lay side by side. 546 00:39:52,209 --> 00:39:56,996 They found a strange charm in the thoughts of death and corruption. 547 00:39:58,059 --> 00:39:59,809 During these melancholic moments, 548 00:39:59,888 --> 00:40:04,006 Orlando saw the skull as an operator of the mutation. 549 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:07,215 To look at oneself in a skull as in a mirror is 550 00:40:07,262 --> 00:40:09,528 to make a deep portrait of oneself 551 00:40:09,661 --> 00:40:14,946 that takes into account the temporal and almost geological dimension of each life. 552 00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:17,867 The skull is the universal mask. 553 00:40:19,267 --> 00:40:21,237 A To write my biography, Virginia, 554 00:40:21,262 --> 00:40:24,021 is also to descend with Orlando into darkness, 555 00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:27,112 where there are no portraits or witnesses, 556 00:40:27,245 --> 00:40:29,639 to enter the realm of the dead. 557 00:40:31,147 --> 00:40:35,290 To understand that we are the heirs of an erased history. 558 00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:37,569 It is to learn to honor the dead, 559 00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:40,376 the faceless ones who preceded us. 560 00:40:40,575 --> 00:40:42,736 The Orlandos who have succumbed 561 00:40:42,835 --> 00:40:47,024 to institutional, familiar, economic, and social violence 562 00:40:47,124 --> 00:40:50,260 are like skeletons lost in the archive. 563 00:40:53,539 --> 00:40:56,772 You too, Virginia, have experienced violence and depression. 564 00:40:56,797 --> 00:40:59,072 As a child who was raped by your brother. 565 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:04,421 As a woman, perhaps non-binary, who loved other women but could 566 00:41:04,446 --> 00:41:07,016 not publicly assert herself as a lesbian, 567 00:41:07,041 --> 00:41:10,118 and then as an adult, fragile and institutionalized 568 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,998 by early 20th century psychiatry. 569 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,165 On March 28, 1941, 570 00:41:16,249 --> 00:41:19,141 terrified by your own depressive episodes, 571 00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,165 by the death of your nephew in the Spanish Civil War, 572 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:25,692 and by the fear of war coming to England, 573 00:41:25,783 --> 00:41:27,711 you filled your pockets with stones 574 00:41:27,877 --> 00:41:31,401 and went into the Ouse River next to your house. 575 00:41:31,534 --> 00:41:34,742 Your body was not found until April 15. 576 00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:37,736 Who will tell our history? 577 00:41:38,016 --> 00:41:42,005 It is necessary to survive violence in order to tell our history. 578 00:41:42,171 --> 00:41:46,758 It is necessary to tell our history in order to survive violence. 579 00:41:47,715 --> 00:41:50,175 But contrary to what you imagined, Virginia, 580 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:52,868 Orlando was not alone. 581 00:41:54,736 --> 00:41:56,000 Who's there? 582 00:42:02,029 --> 00:42:03,359 Is anyone there? 583 00:42:07,262 --> 00:42:08,824 I'm Elios Levy. 584 00:42:08,936 --> 00:42:11,629 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 585 00:42:12,467 --> 00:42:13,531 Orlando? 586 00:42:14,254 --> 00:42:15,783 I was waiting for you! 587 00:42:28,011 --> 00:42:29,274 I'm Julia. 588 00:42:30,005 --> 00:42:33,130 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 589 00:42:34,227 --> 00:42:39,047 Sunk for a long time in profound thoughts 590 00:42:39,778 --> 00:42:42,803 as to the value of obscurity... 591 00:42:47,224 --> 00:42:50,814 and the delight of having no name... 592 00:42:52,676 --> 00:42:55,967 but being like a wave which returns 593 00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:58,859 to the deep body of the sea; 594 00:43:00,288 --> 00:43:02,482 thinking how obscurity 595 00:43:02,781 --> 00:43:05,441 rids the mind of the irk 596 00:43:05,939 --> 00:43:08,466 of spite and envy; 597 00:43:09,396 --> 00:43:14,515 how it sets running in the veins the free waters of generosity and magnanimity; 598 00:43:16,643 --> 00:43:21,629 and allows giving and taking without thanks offered or praise given; 599 00:43:22,161 --> 00:43:25,884 which must have been the way all great gender poets lived. 600 00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:31,236 Coccinelle or Marsha P. Johnson built their bodies and their lives 601 00:43:31,402 --> 00:43:33,629 like others built cathedrals. 602 00:43:34,361 --> 00:43:38,350 For years, I knew 603 00:43:38,915 --> 00:43:41,740 that I was something else, 604 00:43:41,906 --> 00:43:45,762 a little bit Orlando... but I didn't have the words yet. 605 00:43:47,724 --> 00:43:50,449 I was treated by medicine, but... 606 00:43:52,211 --> 00:43:55,103 the doctors were hardly wiser than they are now. 607 00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:57,596 They prescribed 608 00:43:58,195 --> 00:44:00,455 rest and exercise, 609 00:44:00,854 --> 00:44:03,148 starvation and nourishment. 610 00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:05,308 They ordered me to... 611 00:44:05,574 --> 00:44:07,934 lie in bed all day 612 00:44:08,134 --> 00:44:11,092 and ride 40 miles 613 00:44:11,292 --> 00:44:13,652 between lunch and dinner. 614 00:44:14,716 --> 00:44:17,707 They put me on sedatives and irritants, 615 00:44:19,037 --> 00:44:21,829 Prozac and newt's slobber on rising, 616 00:44:22,029 --> 00:44:26,258 Diazepam and draughts of peacock's gall on going to bed. 617 00:44:27,247 --> 00:44:28,444 Happily, 618 00:44:29,242 --> 00:44:31,436 I was of a strong build, 619 00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:36,788 but neither psychology nor medicine could cure me. 620 00:44:38,084 --> 00:44:41,109 Only reading and affirming my life drive 621 00:44:41,275 --> 00:44:43,004 could cure me. 622 00:44:43,137 --> 00:44:45,098 I had my first 623 00:44:45,563 --> 00:44:48,755 testosterone shot last Saturday 624 00:44:48,888 --> 00:44:51,381 after we met. 625 00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:55,636 But a little dose to see 626 00:44:56,001 --> 00:45:00,123 because I don't think I want to pass for a cis guy 627 00:45:00,755 --> 00:45:02,483 and I think that... 628 00:45:02,982 --> 00:45:05,974 passing for a trans person would be fine. 629 00:45:06,938 --> 00:45:08,566 At the same time... 630 00:45:09,397 --> 00:45:10,727 it's still... 631 00:45:11,392 --> 00:45:13,985 This freedom scares me. 632 00:45:14,151 --> 00:45:15,913 In the book, he talks 633 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,208 about having to lose these masculine clothes will be difficult, 634 00:45:20,254 --> 00:45:23,878 he's going to live... she's going to live 635 00:45:23,924 --> 00:45:26,783 from now on as a woman with women's clothes 636 00:45:26,982 --> 00:45:29,988 and it's going to be complicated 637 00:45:30,074 --> 00:45:32,534 to live in a patriarchal society. 638 00:45:32,766 --> 00:45:35,359 That stuck with me. 639 00:45:36,050 --> 00:45:38,377 I say to myself that... 640 00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:41,941 whether you're a man, non-binary, woman or trans, 641 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,229 you can identify with these words. They'll remain forever modern. 642 00:45:46,395 --> 00:45:50,750 It's very scary that we probably have 643 00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:52,877 privileges to lose. 644 00:45:53,309 --> 00:45:59,758 In me, were feelings of melancholy and indolence... 645 00:46:01,054 --> 00:46:04,844 ardor and passion for solitude... 646 00:46:06,373 --> 00:46:10,694 Before being who I am now, I went through very depressive passages. 647 00:46:12,024 --> 00:46:14,085 I even thought about death. 648 00:46:17,143 --> 00:46:19,869 I have a rage that I want to share, 649 00:46:20,035 --> 00:46:21,830 an inner rage, 650 00:46:22,096 --> 00:46:24,656 and I see so many friends around me 651 00:46:24,855 --> 00:46:27,681 who don't feel... 652 00:46:28,379 --> 00:46:29,675 free. 653 00:46:29,841 --> 00:46:32,534 Even if I am angry, sometimes, 654 00:46:32,667 --> 00:46:36,357 I'm also very happy to share it because it is a joy, 655 00:46:37,254 --> 00:46:43,005 a joy to be able to tell your friends, to be able to say who you are... 656 00:46:45,132 --> 00:46:47,027 and above all... 657 00:46:51,814 --> 00:46:55,637 not to be afraid, even if it is difficult. 658 00:47:01,354 --> 00:47:06,074 Years passed, even if Orlando wanted to hide in their castle, 659 00:47:06,274 --> 00:47:09,964 they were besieged by hate messages on their accounts. 660 00:47:10,296 --> 00:47:14,717 In order to escape the court life and the digital harassment, 661 00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:19,238 they asked King Charles to send them as far away as possible. 662 00:47:21,146 --> 00:47:23,340 Here hides 663 00:47:23,799 --> 00:47:25,262 Ambition, 664 00:47:25,361 --> 00:47:26,724 the harridan, 665 00:47:27,994 --> 00:47:29,490 Hatred, 666 00:47:29,908 --> 00:47:31,570 the witch, 667 00:47:32,701 --> 00:47:34,562 and Desire of Fame, 668 00:47:34,775 --> 00:47:36,205 the strumpet. 669 00:47:44,202 --> 00:47:47,028 Weapon Store of the East Station 670 00:48:09,865 --> 00:48:11,095 Hello. 671 00:48:11,294 --> 00:48:12,590 I'm Orlando. 672 00:48:13,787 --> 00:48:18,042 I was appointed extraordinary ambassador in Constantinople by King Charles. 673 00:48:21,034 --> 00:48:24,524 It seems I can find the attributes of masculinity here. 674 00:48:24,757 --> 00:48:26,951 I have a few things to offer you. 675 00:48:33,027 --> 00:48:34,324 There you are. 676 00:48:43,698 --> 00:48:45,560 - Anything else? - Of course. 677 00:48:57,951 --> 00:48:59,480 - Still not? - No. 678 00:49:05,286 --> 00:49:09,840 Orlando began to understand what being a man 679 00:49:09,865 --> 00:49:12,359 in a patriarchal society meant: 680 00:49:12,525 --> 00:49:16,271 not just having the right to use violence, 681 00:49:16,314 --> 00:49:18,841 but rather having the obligation to do so. 682 00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:20,037 I'll take it. 683 00:49:21,367 --> 00:49:24,267 On the other hand in a patriarchal society, 684 00:49:24,292 --> 00:49:26,811 becoming a woman means to be disarmed. 685 00:49:26,885 --> 00:49:28,015 Hello. 686 00:49:33,313 --> 00:49:36,703 - I'm just looking, thanks. - Go ahead. 687 00:49:36,791 --> 00:49:40,920 Reading a manuscript of "Orlando” in the New York Public Library, 688 00:49:41,046 --> 00:49:47,960 I learn that you, Virginia, had included yourself in your book as a character, 689 00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:49,788 Volumia Fox. 690 00:49:50,021 --> 00:49:51,617 I'd like to buy this fox. 691 00:49:51,783 --> 00:49:53,578 Sorry, it's not for sale. 692 00:49:56,888 --> 00:49:59,614 What if I trade it for this? 693 00:50:09,135 --> 00:50:11,561 Is it authentic? From the 18th century? 694 00:50:11,794 --> 00:50:13,788 1741, to be precise. 695 00:50:14,453 --> 00:50:16,248 - With pleasure. - OK? 696 00:50:17,412 --> 00:50:19,905 Then you removed that part, 697 00:50:19,938 --> 00:50:22,265 and your character disappeared. 698 00:50:26,228 --> 00:50:29,187 In all stories there are hidden characters 699 00:50:29,299 --> 00:50:32,757 and ghosts that remain unseen. 700 00:50:33,494 --> 00:50:36,519 I like your pseudonym, Volumia Fox. 701 00:50:36,717 --> 00:50:39,310 It's a really great drag queen name. 702 00:50:55,041 --> 00:51:00,426 Then, one summer day, Orlando finally arrived in Constantinople. 703 00:51:13,058 --> 00:51:17,851 Where historians would have liked to solve the mystery of their transition, 704 00:51:17,891 --> 00:51:20,750 they found a hole in the manuscript. 705 00:51:21,335 --> 00:51:26,375 In short, we have done our best to compose a meager summary 706 00:51:26,447 --> 00:51:28,940 from the blackened fragments that remain. 707 00:51:29,014 --> 00:51:33,302 But often we have found it necessary to speculate, to suppose, 708 00:51:33,327 --> 00:51:36,291 even to have recourse to the imagination. 709 00:51:37,557 --> 00:51:40,698 Constantinople will be for Orlando 710 00:51:40,723 --> 00:51:43,548 the magical place of all discoveries. 711 00:51:43,573 --> 00:51:46,731 But the most important thing is that you, Virginia, 712 00:51:46,831 --> 00:51:52,444 have decided that Orlando's transition will take place here. 713 00:52:01,956 --> 00:52:05,776 As soon as they arrived, Orlando was perfumed, curled and "anointed" 714 00:52:05,819 --> 00:52:07,216 according to the custom, 715 00:52:07,241 --> 00:52:11,604 their body transformed into a representative of imperial power. 716 00:52:11,629 --> 00:52:15,145 Most importantly, their face was whitened. 717 00:52:15,518 --> 00:52:20,201 In the mid-17th century, before the concept of race was invented in the West, 718 00:52:20,238 --> 00:52:25,001 colonial governors invented whiteness through makeup 719 00:52:25,025 --> 00:52:29,948 to differentiate between the skin of the dominant and of the subaltern. 720 00:52:33,382 --> 00:52:37,071 Why does gender change take place in the colony? 721 00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:44,189 You, Virginia, knew this colonial trip well: 722 00:52:44,214 --> 00:52:48,521 your mother, Julia Jackson, was born in Calcutta into a family of doctors 723 00:52:48,546 --> 00:52:51,611 working for the East India Company. 724 00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:54,086 And your husband, Leonard Woolf, 725 00:52:54,219 --> 00:52:57,111 had been a cadet, then an administrative officer 726 00:52:57,136 --> 00:52:59,430 for the British Empire in Ceylon. 727 00:53:05,222 --> 00:53:09,942 Perhaps that's why you didn't imagine an Orlando who perceives the colonial city 728 00:53:10,066 --> 00:53:13,976 as a totally foreign place, but rather as a mirror place 729 00:53:14,036 --> 00:53:17,061 where they understand their misbegotten condition. 730 00:53:19,868 --> 00:53:24,289 I don't think the people of these lands I'm supposed to govern 731 00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:25,797 are different from me. 732 00:53:28,258 --> 00:53:30,745 I wonder whether, in the Crusades, 733 00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:35,713 one of my ancestors had taken up with a Circassian peasant woman. 734 00:53:36,868 --> 00:53:40,319 Maybe he obtained her sexual favors in exchange for something. 735 00:53:40,383 --> 00:53:42,909 Maybe he forced her. 736 00:53:43,761 --> 00:53:45,852 I think it possible. 737 00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:48,806 I am not white. 738 00:53:49,491 --> 00:53:53,194 I am the child of this colonial journey and of this rape. 739 00:54:38,763 --> 00:54:42,486 Orlando’s mutation does not start with a sex change. 740 00:54:42,631 --> 00:54:45,291 There are four metamorphoses. 741 00:54:45,370 --> 00:54:48,229 The first two are poetry and love. 742 00:54:48,395 --> 00:54:52,125 The third one, induced by the exile from his own culture, 743 00:54:52,184 --> 00:54:54,662 is the process of creolization. 744 00:54:54,744 --> 00:54:58,585 Only after that, the fourth metamorphosis takes place. 745 00:54:58,627 --> 00:55:01,713 Orlando is ready for their gender change. 746 00:55:11,132 --> 00:55:15,320 I'm Amir Baylly. In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 747 00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:20,174 After 2 years as ambassador, Charles gave me the highest peerage 748 00:55:20,858 --> 00:55:25,393 The envious said it was because I had the finest legs in England. 749 00:55:25,625 --> 00:55:30,013 Well, I think it was my merits, not my legs. 750 00:55:30,146 --> 00:55:32,339 My journey to Constantinople 751 00:55:32,380 --> 00:55:35,139 was, at first, full of apprehension. 752 00:55:35,232 --> 00:55:37,725 I was afraid I'd lose everything: 753 00:55:37,825 --> 00:55:40,177 especially my family, 754 00:55:40,245 --> 00:55:43,437 not really my friends, more the world in general. 755 00:55:43,509 --> 00:55:47,485 And it turned out a lot better than expected, in the end. 756 00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:50,764 I grew up with just my mother, who's French. 757 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:52,687 My father is Rwandan. 758 00:55:52,833 --> 00:55:57,284 So I didn't have any contact with that side of the family 759 00:55:57,309 --> 00:55:59,831 before I was 17 or 18. 760 00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:03,354 They still knew me before I transitioned. 761 00:56:04,318 --> 00:56:08,839 But when I had to tell them what I was going to do, 762 00:56:08,972 --> 00:56:11,232 they took it very well. 763 00:56:11,432 --> 00:56:14,091 It tends to surprise people 764 00:56:14,257 --> 00:56:18,246 because you imagine that African families 765 00:56:18,412 --> 00:56:22,135 or non-Western families as being more closed-minded 766 00:56:22,302 --> 00:56:26,217 about issues such as gender and sexuality. 767 00:56:26,277 --> 00:56:31,345 But it's not the case. It's a stereotype and it depends on the people. 768 00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:33,789 I started at a pretty young age. 769 00:56:33,814 --> 00:56:36,870 I'm 23, so I started when I was 20. 770 00:56:36,895 --> 00:56:41,704 It wasn't really a break with the person I was before. 771 00:56:41,737 --> 00:56:45,125 It was more of a continuation 772 00:56:45,172 --> 00:56:48,154 of who I am and who I'd become. 773 00:56:48,214 --> 00:56:50,540 People spread rumors about me. 774 00:56:50,565 --> 00:56:53,224 Shepherds, bringing their goats to market; 775 00:56:53,249 --> 00:56:56,141 said they'd seen me praying on a mountain top. 776 00:56:56,208 --> 00:56:59,986 But I was actually just reciting a poem aloud 777 00:57:00,297 --> 00:57:03,423 because I like to chant when I'm alone. 778 00:57:04,285 --> 00:57:07,422 I've become the idol of many women.. 779 00:57:07,497 --> 00:57:09,093 and certain men. 780 00:57:09,272 --> 00:57:12,795 Some fall in love without having spoken to me or seen me. 781 00:57:13,394 --> 00:57:18,147 When they think of me, they imagine a noble gentleman in silk stockings 782 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,039 as the sun sets over Constantinople. 783 00:57:21,898 --> 00:57:23,328 But in fact, 784 00:57:23,379 --> 00:57:26,403 I spent most of my time alone. 785 00:57:42,847 --> 00:57:45,872 Orlando spent their days wandering and reading, 786 00:57:45,917 --> 00:57:48,111 accompanied by their beloved dog. 787 00:57:48,604 --> 00:57:52,680 Everyone thought they were the same, but somewhere inside them, 788 00:57:52,712 --> 00:57:55,338 the metamorphosis had already begun. 789 00:58:05,782 --> 00:58:09,716 One day, Duke Orlando, as we must call them from now on, 790 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:14,145 was found, by their secretaries and their dog, deeply asleep. 791 00:58:19,624 --> 00:58:24,444 At first, nothing was suspected, because the evening had been very tiring. 792 00:58:25,534 --> 00:58:27,196 But the next day, 793 00:58:27,569 --> 00:58:29,629 Orlando was still sleeping. 794 00:58:30,162 --> 00:58:33,254 And so the doctors were called. 795 00:59:07,358 --> 00:59:08,688 Is he alive? 796 00:59:08,915 --> 00:59:11,342 He's alive, he's alive! 797 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,997 We are Pierre and Gilles. 798 00:59:16,067 --> 00:59:20,455 In this film we'll be Orlando's doctors. 799 00:59:22,902 --> 00:59:25,295 On the seventh day of this lethargy, 800 00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:28,785 the first shot of a bloody insurrection broke out. 801 00:59:29,051 --> 00:59:32,043 The people were rising against the sultan. 802 00:59:32,176 --> 00:59:35,733 The insurgents put all the foreigners to the sword. 803 00:59:35,899 --> 00:59:40,520 But thinking that Orlando was dead, they abandoned them in their palace. 804 00:59:48,032 --> 00:59:53,484 A normative biographer would have wanted to write the end word on the screen. 805 00:59:53,583 --> 00:59:57,704 Saying Orlando died, they put them in the ground. 806 00:59:58,536 --> 01:00:01,846 But this is not how things happened. 807 01:00:12,830 --> 01:00:15,656 3 goddesses came out of the mist of the night 808 01:00:15,695 --> 01:00:18,182 and rescued Orlando from death. 809 01:00:27,964 --> 01:00:31,886 I'm Tristana. In this film I'll be the goddess of hormones. 810 01:00:32,052 --> 01:00:36,690 And I'm Le Filip. In this film I'll be the goddess of gender fucking. 811 01:00:36,715 --> 01:00:41,396 And I'm Miss Drinks. In this film I'll be the goddess of insurrection. 812 01:01:04,853 --> 01:01:08,842 Truth, truth, truth! 813 01:01:16,183 --> 01:01:19,674 Orlando had become a woman. No need to deny it. 814 01:01:19,699 --> 01:01:22,991 But for the rest, they remained the same Orlando. 815 01:01:23,044 --> 01:01:26,868 They might have changed sex and destiny. 816 01:01:26,939 --> 01:01:28,635 But not personality. 817 01:01:33,188 --> 01:01:37,809 It seems that the metamorphosis was painless and perfect. 818 01:01:40,833 --> 01:01:45,198 Many scientists, convinced that a change of sex would be unnatural, 819 01:01:45,287 --> 01:01:47,614 have gone to great lengths to prove: 820 01:01:47,767 --> 01:01:51,258 1. that Orlando had always been a woman; 821 01:01:51,696 --> 01:01:55,220 2. that Orlando had never stopped being a man. 822 01:01:56,119 --> 01:01:59,878 Let biologists and psychologists argue unnecessarily. 823 01:01:59,942 --> 01:02:02,641 As for us, the facts are enough. 824 01:02:02,706 --> 01:02:08,025 Orlando had changed gender, sex, and soon sexuality. 825 01:02:21,773 --> 01:02:25,881 I beg the audience to remember that Orlando was like a child 826 01:02:25,961 --> 01:02:29,070 who comes into possession of a garden or a toy cabinet. 827 01:02:29,095 --> 01:02:31,443 Their reasoning was not that of women 828 01:02:31,501 --> 01:02:34,492 who were assigned the female gender at birth 829 01:02:34,546 --> 01:02:39,499 and who perceive the rituals of patriarchal oppression as natural. 830 01:02:39,524 --> 01:02:43,839 With some of the guineas left from the sale of a pearl 831 01:02:45,375 --> 01:02:50,494 and with money made from doing stripteases via webcam in Turkey, 832 01:02:51,566 --> 01:02:55,463 I bought a complete outfit of clothes women wore then, 833 01:02:55,500 --> 01:03:01,417 and it was in the dress of a young Englishwoman of rank 834 01:03:02,288 --> 01:03:04,781 that I prepared to return to the castle. 835 01:03:11,245 --> 01:03:15,533 The first year of my transition was one of the most beautiful periods of my life. 836 01:03:15,699 --> 01:03:18,785 I remember a time, between January and June, 837 01:03:18,842 --> 01:03:25,390 when, after increasing my hormone dosage every 17 days to 250 milligrams, 838 01:03:25,671 --> 01:03:29,727 it was still not possible for me or others 839 01:03:29,939 --> 01:03:33,928 to know whether my face was female or male. 840 01:03:34,755 --> 01:03:37,614 Sometimes, as I walked through the streets of New York, 841 01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,095 I would see my reflection in a shop window 842 01:03:40,165 --> 01:03:43,678 and I would see how the female face was decomposing 843 01:03:43,788 --> 01:03:46,979 without the male face having yet appeared. 844 01:03:47,004 --> 01:03:49,328 Hormones had begun to undo 845 01:03:49,364 --> 01:03:53,588 one mask of me, but it had not yet been replaced by another. 846 01:03:54,902 --> 01:03:57,960 I called this period the genderless time. 847 01:03:58,718 --> 01:04:00,779 This was an uncertain time, 848 01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:03,234 but it was also light. 849 01:04:03,546 --> 01:04:08,532 It was as if all relationships of ownership, inheritance, guilt, and debt 850 01:04:08,658 --> 01:04:11,284 had disappeared with sexual difference. 851 01:04:11,944 --> 01:04:17,387 As the hormonal changes sculpted my bod» like a chemical chisel working from within 852 01:04:17,487 --> 01:04:20,388 and I began to use my new name, 853 01:04:20,533 --> 01:04:24,023 I felt how reality metamorphosed around me. 854 01:04:24,117 --> 01:04:27,142 It wasn't just me who was changing. 855 01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:30,557 My change was part of a planetary mutation. 856 01:04:30,743 --> 01:04:33,336 You, Virginia, you knew it. 857 01:04:33,616 --> 01:04:36,674 Orlando's enjoyment of their transition 858 01:04:36,826 --> 01:04:40,416 comes from the decision to be open to experimentation. 859 01:04:40,557 --> 01:04:43,183 To make their life a work of art. 860 01:04:47,637 --> 01:04:48,900 Now... 861 01:04:49,731 --> 01:04:51,160 I'm a woman. 862 01:04:53,122 --> 01:04:55,415 Never have I seen my skin 863 01:04:55,581 --> 01:04:58,407 look so good. 864 01:05:02,994 --> 01:05:04,523 However... 865 01:05:05,986 --> 01:05:08,246 could I jump overboard... 866 01:05:09,244 --> 01:05:11,238 and swim in this garment? 867 01:05:12,933 --> 01:05:15,593 We'll start again, we'll start again. 868 01:05:16,357 --> 01:05:19,415 - More trashy. - OK. 869 01:05:19,748 --> 01:05:22,658 - From the beginning? - Yes. 870 01:05:22,766 --> 01:05:25,359 "Now, I'm a woman." See? 871 01:05:27,692 --> 01:05:29,155 Now, I'm a woman. 872 01:05:29,886 --> 01:05:34,008 After Paul's "Action”, I'll give a sign so you can start talking. 873 01:05:34,141 --> 01:05:36,036 - OK. - Thanks. 874 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,689 Still rolling. 875 01:05:41,188 --> 01:05:43,183 When you're ready, Paul... 876 01:05:43,482 --> 01:05:44,679 Action! 877 01:05:54,953 --> 01:05:57,072 Orlando would also discover 878 01:05:57,097 --> 01:06:00,355 that there were 1,000 different ways to be a woman. 879 01:06:02,942 --> 01:06:08,119 Femininity was not an essence, but rather a practice of becoming. 880 01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:12,535 Lord... 881 01:06:14,031 --> 01:06:17,421 I can't respect men's opinion of women anymore. 882 01:06:18,432 --> 01:06:19,895 [t is monstrous. 883 01:06:20,978 --> 01:06:23,598 I can't even eat by myself. 884 01:06:23,737 --> 01:06:27,268 I understood the problem when Captain 885 01:06:27,367 --> 01:06:29,827 Nicholas Benedict Bartolus, 886 01:06:30,186 --> 01:06:32,712 a sea-captain of distinguished aspect, 887 01:06:33,610 --> 01:06:37,765 offered me a slice of corned beef and said: 888 01:06:39,114 --> 01:06:41,209 A little of the fat, Ma'm? 889 01:06:41,441 --> 01:06:47,026 Let me cut you the tiniest little slice the size of your fingernail." 890 01:06:51,427 --> 01:06:54,053 I remember the feeling 891 01:06:54,685 --> 01:06:57,444 of indescribable pleasure 892 01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:59,638 with which I had first seen 893 01:06:59,937 --> 01:07:02,430 a beautiful woman for the first time, 894 01:07:03,062 --> 01:07:05,056 a hundred years ago. 895 01:07:13,124 --> 01:07:17,544 In the meantime, the ships that were going to take Orlando to England 896 01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:20,267 were arriving on the Turkish Sea. 897 01:07:47,508 --> 01:07:49,269 I'm Naelle Dariya, 898 01:07:49,294 --> 01:07:55,480 06 19 85 31 74. 899 01:07:55,636 --> 01:08:00,720 In this film I'll be . Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 900 01:08:37,841 --> 01:08:42,694 To be trans is to discover the backstage of sexual and gender difference. 901 01:08:42,832 --> 01:08:46,821 To understand that a society is a collectively constructed set 902 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,615 and that masculinity and femininity are political fictions, 903 01:08:50,663 --> 01:08:56,865 which we have learned to perceive as natural through repetition and violence. 904 01:09:05,523 --> 01:09:08,224 A gender transition is a journey. 905 01:09:08,249 --> 01:09:12,908 It is not a passage between masculinity and femininity or vice versa, 906 01:09:13,015 --> 01:09:16,240 but rather a journey into unknown territory. 907 01:09:16,293 --> 01:09:20,598 This unknown land is actually the society we were born into, 908 01:09:20,623 --> 01:09:22,883 but now experienced 909 01:09:22,908 --> 01:09:25,866 from a different political position. 910 01:09:44,315 --> 01:09:47,481 Transition does not begin during sleep 911 01:09:47,549 --> 01:09:49,975 as an unconscious, passive moment, 912 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,778 but rather in the dream 913 01:09:51,803 --> 01:09:55,526 as an active emergence of desire in memory. 914 01:09:55,551 --> 01:10:00,518 It is in our imagination as a force for political transformation 915 01:10:00,557 --> 01:10:03,183 that we start becoming trans. 916 01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:16,767 What? 917 01:10:16,792 --> 01:10:20,583 The sight of my knees can cause the death of a boy 918 01:10:20,615 --> 01:10:23,803 who no doubt has a wife and family? 919 01:10:24,597 --> 01:10:27,955 So, to be kind, I should keep them covered up. 920 01:10:29,125 --> 01:10:31,471 A pox on them! 921 01:10:32,608 --> 01:10:35,932 Now I must return to England, 922 01:10:37,169 --> 01:10:40,707 but what will England say when they see me like this? 923 01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:46,436 Once I set foot on English soil as a woman, 924 01:10:47,335 --> 01:10:51,887 I'll never be able to crack a man on the head, or tell him he lies, 925 01:10:52,247 --> 01:10:54,854 or sit among my peers in Parliament, 926 01:10:55,598 --> 01:10:59,628 or wear 72 different medals on my breast. 927 01:11:01,701 --> 01:11:04,460 My only right as a woman 928 01:11:04,913 --> 01:11:09,999 will be to pour out tea and ask my lords how they like it. 929 01:11:11,694 --> 01:11:13,854 "D'you take sugar? 930 01:11:15,264 --> 01:11:17,957 D'you take cream?" 931 01:11:19,648 --> 01:11:22,468 No girls. Don't be silly! 932 01:11:28,433 --> 01:11:32,443 Your Orlando, Virginia, went to Turkey as a soldier of the king 933 01:11:32,484 --> 01:11:35,010 and returned, transformed into a woman. 934 01:11:48,572 --> 01:11:52,528 In 1952, Orlando was called Christine Jorgensen. 935 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,586 She was like your character, a soldier who became a woman 936 01:11:55,752 --> 01:11:58,478 and came to the United States from Denmark. 937 01:11:58,578 --> 01:12:03,564 The first trans women featured on TV were always portrayed 938 01:12:03,730 --> 01:12:07,021 as Orlando, stepping off a boat or a plane. 939 01:12:07,136 --> 01:12:10,678 In the normative narratives of the lives of Orlandos, 940 01:12:10,737 --> 01:12:13,802 there is this obstinacy to make trans women arrive from afar. 941 01:12:13,969 --> 01:12:17,492 As if transformation should always happen abroad. 942 01:12:17,572 --> 01:12:20,916 As if it could never happen here. 943 01:12:21,049 --> 01:12:24,357 As if a vaginoplasty should necessarily take place 944 01:12:24,504 --> 01:12:25,902 in a parallel world. 945 01:12:25,992 --> 01:12:30,523 As if the operating table was on the waves or in the clouds. 946 01:12:30,689 --> 01:12:34,013 In 1958, Orlando was called Coccinelle 947 01:12:34,146 --> 01:12:38,434 and she arrived in France after passing through a clinic in Morocco. 948 01:12:38,933 --> 01:12:41,839 And now 949 01:12:44,251 --> 01:12:47,069 My goodness. 950 01:12:55,014 --> 01:12:56,943 I didn't expect that. 951 01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:59,069 Have you been offered a movie contract 952 01:12:59,094 --> 01:13:01,138 Yes, but I haven't accepted it yet. 953 01:13:01,212 --> 01:13:04,071 Do you have any plans rigarding theater? 954 01:13:04,233 --> 01:13:06,167 No, I don't think so. 955 01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:10,645 I cannot play the theater of heterosexuality either. 956 01:13:11,243 --> 01:13:13,105 I'm not a man... 957 01:13:14,102 --> 01:13:16,230 I'm not just a woman... 958 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,723 I'm a trans woman. 959 01:13:19,587 --> 01:13:22,180 I know the secrets of both sexes, 960 01:13:22,346 --> 01:13:25,437 their social conventions and their infirmities. 961 01:13:25,992 --> 01:13:27,698 I'm no longer a boy. 962 01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:31,255 I'm not a woman yet. 963 01:13:32,285 --> 01:13:35,111 I'm not the person I want to be yet. 964 01:13:35,207 --> 01:13:41,260 But the words to describe the gender of the person I want to be don't exist. 965 01:13:41,393 --> 01:13:45,648 So, they have to be invented. So, you have to be poetic. 966 01:13:47,465 --> 01:13:48,865 We are poets. 967 01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:50,744 I'm very happy to be back, 968 01:13:50,769 --> 01:13:53,292 and I don't have any plans at the moment 969 01:13:53,358 --> 01:13:55,452 and I thank you all for coming 970 01:13:55,633 --> 01:13:57,193 but I think it's too much 971 01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:59,053 Fine. T.hank you very much 972 01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:02,867 I was a feather blown on the gale. 973 01:14:04,329 --> 01:14:07,820 I kept pitting one sex against the other 974 01:14:08,209 --> 01:14:11,743 and finding them as pathetic as each other. 975 01:14:11,842 --> 01:14:17,360 I don't understand why France, a marvelous country I'm rediscovering... 976 01:14:17,527 --> 01:14:22,967 I don't understand why it won't let unhappy people get operated on. 977 01:14:23,007 --> 01:14:26,780 People get nose jobs, why not the rest? 978 01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:30,457 My entire psychology was transformed. 979 01:14:31,455 --> 01:14:33,183 Disappearance of shame, 980 01:14:33,449 --> 01:14:35,311 disappearance of anxiety, 981 01:14:35,577 --> 01:14:37,438 public authorization, 982 01:14:38,435 --> 01:14:39,998 self-recognition, 983 01:14:40,164 --> 01:14:41,693 self-esteem, 984 01:14:42,524 --> 01:14:44,153 disappearance of hatred , 985 01:14:45,217 --> 01:14:46,779 appearance of love... 986 01:14:47,211 --> 01:14:50,037 That is the aim. 987 01:14:50,469 --> 01:14:51,798 Come... 988 01:14:52,231 --> 01:14:53,460 Come. 989 01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:57,682 I am sick to death of this particular self. 990 01:14:57,848 --> 01:14:59,278 I want another. 991 01:14:59,927 --> 01:15:02,989 I travel the world all year round. 992 01:15:03,049 --> 01:15:06,120 I know 2,000 post-op women. 993 01:15:06,193 --> 01:15:11,145 I don't call them transsexuals. I say women of the year 2000. 994 01:15:11,577 --> 01:15:14,469 We will soon be the women of the year 2000. 995 01:15:14,735 --> 01:15:17,826 I always say I'm a trans woman. 996 01:15:18,491 --> 01:15:21,450 I say it with pride. If I were reborn, 997 01:15:21,616 --> 01:15:23,943 I'd want to be the same person. 998 01:15:23,943 --> 01:15:26,336 How will this affect your job? 999 01:15:26,403 --> 01:15:29,875 Darling, I don't have a job. I am on welfair. 1000 01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:33,897 I have no intention to get a job as long as this country 1001 01:15:33,922 --> 01:15:35,978 discriminates against homosexuals. 1002 01:15:36,086 --> 01:15:40,402 There's only homosexuals, bisexuals then trisexual, darling. 1003 01:15:40,466 --> 01:15:42,893 And there's no straight people. 1004 01:15:42,924 --> 01:15:46,879 I discovered sex work, street work. 1005 01:15:47,045 --> 01:15:48,741 I saw women die, 1006 01:15:48,874 --> 01:15:51,756 girlfriends who fell right next to me, 1007 01:15:51,832 --> 01:15:55,389 a car went by, shots were fired, 1008 01:15:55,555 --> 01:15:59,544 they fell right next to me, 1009 01:15:59,710 --> 01:16:04,855 because of many things: hatred, transphobia, 1010 01:16:05,295 --> 01:16:07,231 many horrible things. 1011 01:16:07,256 --> 01:16:13,073 It's what gave me the strength to leave my home country, Venezuela. 1012 01:16:13,206 --> 01:16:16,331 I saw myself dead like many of my friends 1013 01:16:16,497 --> 01:16:18,633 who died that year. 1014 01:16:18,724 --> 01:16:21,849 I thought that if I stayed, 1015 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,342 I wouldn't survive. 1016 01:16:25,643 --> 01:16:27,770 I have been to jaile. 1017 01:16:27,876 --> 01:16:29,676 I have been raped 1018 01:16:29,816 --> 01:16:31,096 and beaten 1019 01:16:31,203 --> 01:16:32,476 many times 1020 01:16:32,667 --> 01:16:34,327 by men. 1021 01:16:34,481 --> 01:16:38,403 I can't change my identity now. 1022 01:16:38,536 --> 01:16:42,891 I can see myself in a mirror. Many people see me and I'm a woman, 1023 01:16:43,024 --> 01:16:48,675 but unfortunately, for institutions, hospitals, banks, 1024 01:16:48,841 --> 01:16:50,769 I'm a victim of transphobia 1025 01:16:50,935 --> 01:16:55,321 because when I hand over my ID, they don't see the person. 1026 01:16:55,388 --> 01:16:59,463 I will not put up with this shit. 1027 01:16:59,569 --> 01:17:01,342 I have been beaten, 1028 01:17:01,408 --> 01:17:03,682 I have had my nose broken. 1029 01:17:03,795 --> 01:17:05,689 I have been thrown in jail. 1030 01:17:05,775 --> 01:17:07,875 I have lost my job. 1031 01:17:08,022 --> 01:17:11,695 I have lost my apartment for gay liberation 1032 01:17:11,815 --> 01:17:14,095 and you treat me this way? 1033 01:17:14,244 --> 01:17:16,638 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1034 01:17:16,772 --> 01:17:20,528 The people are trying to do something for all of us 1035 01:17:20,611 --> 01:17:25,435 and not men and women that belong to a white middle-class 1036 01:17:25,610 --> 01:17:27,430 white club, 1037 01:17:27,643 --> 01:17:30,835 and not what you belong to 1038 01:17:30,866 --> 01:17:33,226 ...now 1039 01:17:33,251 --> 01:17:36,443 The state is responsible for sex workers' insecurity 1040 01:17:36,609 --> 01:17:39,202 After returning to England as a woman 1041 01:17:39,335 --> 01:17:41,894 who had lost their possessions and legal identity, 1042 01:17:42,094 --> 01:17:45,916 Orlando, now stateless and accompanied only by their dog, 1043 01:17:46,049 --> 01:17:51,401 the only one who still recognized them, began an endless wandering for centuries. 1044 01:17:53,495 --> 01:17:55,963 Come on, I'll give you... 1045 01:17:56,554 --> 01:17:58,349 Yes, I will. 1046 01:17:58,515 --> 01:18:01,108 I know, I know. Here, darling. 1047 01:18:02,404 --> 01:18:05,595 Hang on. Walk on 'cause it's too much. 1048 01:18:05,728 --> 01:18:07,623 Do it nice and easy. 1049 01:18:08,188 --> 01:18:10,349 Go on, off you go, darling. 1050 01:18:12,077 --> 01:18:13,440 You be careful. 1051 01:18:17,429 --> 01:18:18,692 Take it easy. 1052 01:18:27,734 --> 01:18:29,562 I'm Jenny Bel'Air. 1053 01:18:29,728 --> 01:18:33,717 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1054 01:18:38,737 --> 01:18:46,382 I'm Rilke. In this film I'll be the dog of Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1055 01:18:53,197 --> 01:18:55,358 Hello, ma'am. How can I help? 1056 01:18:56,022 --> 01:19:00,344 I reserved a room in the name of Mrs. Orlando. 1057 01:19:00,434 --> 01:19:01,667 Orlando. 1058 01:19:02,405 --> 01:19:04,898 - Indeed. - Forgive me... 1059 01:19:05,064 --> 01:19:09,186 I just found out that Godard died and it's made me so sad. 1060 01:19:09,352 --> 01:19:11,679 - Forgive me. - My condolences. 1061 01:19:11,878 --> 01:19:14,536 I can give you Room 503. 1062 01:19:14,637 --> 01:19:20,049 Fine. I asked for a room overlooking the courtyard as I hate noise. 1063 01:19:20,156 --> 01:19:24,344 - 503 is fine, then. - OK. Don't forget I have a dog. 1064 01:19:24,543 --> 01:19:26,172 - OK? - We accept dogs. 1065 01:19:26,338 --> 01:19:27,801 Excellent, good. 1066 01:19:27,934 --> 01:19:31,956 - Can I have your ID, please? - Yes, I nearly forgot. 1067 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,283 Now then... 1068 01:19:35,347 --> 01:19:37,574 Here is my passport. 1069 01:19:39,907 --> 01:19:40,805 Thank you. 1070 01:19:41,131 --> 01:19:44,555 Nationality: Planet Earth Date of birth: 9 March 1500 1071 01:19:44,688 --> 01:19:46,183 Author: Virginia Woolf 1072 01:19:47,314 --> 01:19:52,366 Excuse me. I think this must be your husband's. It's in a man's name. 1073 01:19:52,666 --> 01:19:55,724 Do I look married? Look at me. 1074 01:19:55,857 --> 01:19:58,510 There's no mistake. Look closely. 1075 01:19:58,617 --> 01:20:02,704 I did. I'm sorry, I can't accept this ID card. 1076 01:20:02,837 --> 01:20:06,046 What? I'm Orlando. It's me! 1077 01:20:06,095 --> 01:20:11,251 Look, sir or madam, I don't know, I can't accept this ID card. 1078 01:20:11,373 --> 01:20:14,150 I'm not sir or madam, I'm Orlando! 1079 01:20:14,398 --> 01:20:15,462 So? 1080 01:20:15,502 --> 01:20:18,959 Don't call me sir. Do I look like a man? 1081 01:20:19,092 --> 01:20:20,987 I'm not a man, you're mistaken. 1082 01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:24,477 It's my real passport. Look at the photo. 1083 01:20:24,610 --> 01:20:28,755 I saw it, but I can't accept an ID card that isn't valid. 1084 01:20:28,932 --> 01:20:32,721 I have to ask you to leave the hotel. 1085 01:20:33,586 --> 01:20:35,447 You do that to me? 1086 01:20:36,976 --> 01:20:38,273 You damn... 1087 01:20:38,605 --> 01:20:40,100 Shit! 1088 01:20:47,713 --> 01:20:50,472 ldentity papers are administrative prostheses 1089 01:20:50,605 --> 01:20:55,192 without which a human body in a binary society becomes a political outlaw, 1090 01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:57,420 without the possibility of owning money, 1091 01:20:57,652 --> 01:21:01,675 without the right to circulate or be admitted to public institutions. 1092 01:21:01,841 --> 01:21:05,963 Life without administrative papers becomes an endless waiting room. 1093 01:21:06,195 --> 01:21:09,586 [in English] 1094 01:21:17,896 --> 01:21:21,619 And it is not by an oak tree that Orlando went to seek comfort. 1095 01:21:21,719 --> 01:21:25,309 They went to the highest authorities of the Republic 1096 01:21:25,442 --> 01:21:27,636 to demand their recognition. 1097 01:21:49,662 --> 01:21:50,892 When I came back, 1098 01:21:50,971 --> 01:21:54,459 I, of course, had no right to anything. 1099 01:21:55,426 --> 01:21:56,922 Everything was over. 1100 01:21:57,786 --> 01:22:00,512 I had no papers, everything was taken from me, 1101 01:22:01,642 --> 01:22:02,872 as usual. 1102 01:22:03,005 --> 01:22:07,891 When I think that society is everything, society is nothing really. 1103 01:22:08,975 --> 01:22:10,205 It takes everything. 1104 01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:18,359 And what I ask is immediately, 1105 01:22:18,437 --> 01:22:21,030 right away, if I've come here, 1106 01:22:21,055 --> 01:22:25,476 respect for myself and for everyone who looks like me. 1107 01:22:26,506 --> 01:22:30,429 Otherwise, it's no use. But society won't be able to kill me. 1108 01:22:46,677 --> 01:22:48,074 I'm Emma. 1109 01:22:49,004 --> 01:22:52,927 And in this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1110 01:22:55,646 --> 01:22:58,305 I've already lived for almost 400 years. 1111 01:22:59,149 --> 01:23:00,645 I've seen many things. 1112 01:23:02,268 --> 01:23:04,196 The colonization of America... 1113 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,516 of Africa... 1114 01:23:06,941 --> 01:23:08,370 and of Asia 1115 01:23:08,563 --> 01:23:09,992 by Europe. 1116 01:23:10,178 --> 01:23:13,336 I've seen the extermination of the first peoples, 1117 01:23:13,762 --> 01:23:15,557 the arrival of capitalism, 1118 01:23:16,148 --> 01:23:18,409 the rise of industrial production, 1119 01:23:19,107 --> 01:23:21,201 the destruction of nature. 1120 01:23:21,614 --> 01:23:23,376 They went that far. 1121 01:23:24,672 --> 01:23:26,201 I've seen... 1122 01:23:27,018 --> 01:23:30,974 the invention of normative heterosexuality 1123 01:23:31,772 --> 01:23:33,534 and the nuclear family. 1124 01:23:34,198 --> 01:23:37,223 With this belief that as a woman, 1125 01:23:37,344 --> 01:23:40,701 if you're not married or you haven't given birth, 1126 01:23:41,798 --> 01:23:44,092 you're useless, you don't exist. 1127 01:23:45,521 --> 01:23:47,050 I've seen... 1128 01:23:48,346 --> 01:23:53,514 Oh yes, also the invention of the notion of transsexuality and intersexuality 1129 01:23:53,592 --> 01:23:55,753 at the end of the 19th century. 1130 01:23:56,657 --> 01:24:00,969 With the aim of excluding us from the human world 1131 01:24:02,408 --> 01:24:04,635 and making us look like monsters. 1132 01:24:05,266 --> 01:24:07,602 I've also seen... 1133 01:24:08,757 --> 01:24:13,244 the arrival of a new generation that wanted to live like me, 1134 01:24:13,444 --> 01:24:17,186 without law, without God, without gender. 1135 01:24:19,668 --> 01:24:23,908 But despite this growing visibility 1136 01:24:23,949 --> 01:24:27,572 of transgender and non-binary people, 1137 01:24:28,668 --> 01:24:31,053 I am in political limbo. 1138 01:24:32,092 --> 01:24:33,717 Without papers. 1139 01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:37,072 Without a real existence. 1140 01:24:40,436 --> 01:24:41,732 Why? 1141 01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:45,920 Is it so complicated to give us new papers? 1142 01:24:48,008 --> 01:24:49,138 Why 1143 01:24:49,822 --> 01:24:52,049 does someone else, a judge, 1144 01:24:52,443 --> 01:24:53,839 a psychiatrist, 1145 01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:56,905 claim to know more than me 1146 01:24:57,355 --> 01:24:59,084 about my identity? 1147 01:25:01,384 --> 01:25:03,145 To deny our identity 1148 01:25:04,011 --> 01:25:05,972 is to erase us from society. 1149 01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:08,388 We don't exist. 1150 01:25:09,608 --> 01:25:13,833 It's to refuse we have rights like others, like binary people. 1151 01:25:14,793 --> 01:25:16,336 But I... 1152 01:25:17,347 --> 01:25:19,641 I want to give myself this identity. 1153 01:25:20,733 --> 01:25:24,455 But I'll recognize myself, I don't need this paper. 1154 01:25:24,534 --> 01:25:26,196 I'll have it one day. 1155 01:25:27,792 --> 01:25:30,675 But I give myself this paper, me. 1156 01:25:30,976 --> 01:25:34,101 I will be Emma, Orlando 1157 01:25:35,217 --> 01:25:37,111 and I'll walk toward life. 1158 01:25:37,171 --> 01:25:39,431 Brave, happy... 1159 01:25:40,636 --> 01:25:43,174 I will be proud and joyful... 1160 01:25:44,765 --> 01:25:45,995 to be here... 1161 01:25:46,852 --> 01:25:48,115 with you. 1162 01:25:49,610 --> 01:25:51,206 I'll recognize myself 1163 01:25:52,708 --> 01:25:54,304 and I'll love myself. 1164 01:26:24,281 --> 01:26:26,691 I'm Koriangelis Brawns. 1165 01:26:26,742 --> 01:26:31,296 In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1166 01:26:33,556 --> 01:26:35,838 But what is an identity document, 1167 01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:39,119 if not a piece of paper written and printed, 1168 01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:42,412 a small booklet containing a political fiction? 1169 01:26:42,963 --> 01:26:46,121 Shared fictions that we have collectively constructed 1170 01:26:46,184 --> 01:26:50,824 and that we forget we can question, modify, change. 1171 01:26:50,908 --> 01:26:55,794 Or, to put it another way, fictions that we can lay on an operating table. 1172 01:26:57,523 --> 01:26:59,916 Sometimes they're really difficult. 1173 01:27:00,016 --> 01:27:02,979 But... we're here! 1174 01:27:03,473 --> 01:27:04,769 It's a big operation. 1175 01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:10,385 Historically, trans people have been seen as bodies that require medical surgery 1176 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,416 to restore continuity between anatomy and gender. 1177 01:27:14,842 --> 01:27:18,043 Me too, I have been on this operating table. 1178 01:27:18,598 --> 01:27:21,423 Where did you get the idea, Virginia of a character 1179 01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:23,792 who changes sex in the middle of the novel? 1180 01:27:23,903 --> 01:27:27,659 Some say it was the desire to imagine that Vita, your lover, 1181 01:27:27,706 --> 01:27:31,259 would not lose her inheritance rights because she was a woman. 1182 01:27:31,456 --> 01:27:36,842 But the idea of trans character, in 1928, was not sir simply a literary utopia. 1183 01:27:36,867 --> 01:27:41,324 When you wrote Orlando there were already people in Europe and the US 1184 01:27:41,402 --> 01:27:45,230 who did not identify with the gender they had been assigned at birth 1185 01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:46,893 and wanted to change it. 1186 01:27:46,979 --> 01:27:52,970 Between 1900 and 1920, the first sex change operations hit the news. 1187 01:27:53,104 --> 01:27:55,968 Then, with the discovery of synthetic hormones, 1188 01:27:56,007 --> 01:28:00,400 some people began experimenting with producing a new trans body 1189 01:28:00,502 --> 01:28:04,424 at the Magnus Hirschfeld Institute of Sexology in Berlin. 1190 01:28:05,069 --> 01:28:09,868 You, Virginia, intrepid reader, could not ignore these discourses. 1191 01:28:13,014 --> 01:28:19,232 Who is operated on when our bodies lie on the operating tables of the Binary Empire? 1192 01:28:21,731 --> 01:28:26,518 Our bodies are discursive artefacts, assemblages of fiction and flesh. 1193 01:28:26,651 --> 01:28:30,333 To operate is to intervene not only in anatomy, 1194 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,793 but to cut into political fiction. 1195 01:29:51,275 --> 01:29:53,270 In your Orlando, you included 1196 01:29:53,369 --> 01:29:56,029 images of Vita and her ancestors. 1197 01:29:56,228 --> 01:30:00,038 But the real Orlandos of history remained invisible. 1198 01:30:51,816 --> 01:30:56,536 We never operate on individual bodies. We operate on the political history. 1199 01:30:56,702 --> 01:31:00,228 It is the regime of sexual difference we have to operate on. 1200 01:31:00,357 --> 01:31:04,845 There are so many historical discourses on which we must intervene. 1201 01:31:27,682 --> 01:31:31,605 That's me, a non-binary 5-year-old Orlando 1202 01:31:31,671 --> 01:31:33,435 in the Spanish carnival, 1203 01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:38,080 accompanied by the fictions of normative femininity and masculinity. 1204 01:31:40,672 --> 01:31:46,903 I'm Eleonore. In this film I'll be Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1205 01:31:46,928 --> 01:31:50,352 What have we done with the trans and non-binary children that we were? 1206 01:31:50,412 --> 01:31:54,244 Christine Jorgensen, the first trans woman in the media, 1207 01:31:54,355 --> 01:31:59,556 was a film editor before she lost her job when she became a woman. 1208 01:31:59,687 --> 01:32:02,770 She said that to be trans was to have the possibility 1209 01:32:02,831 --> 01:32:04,792 to edit the film of her life differently. 1210 01:32:04,966 --> 01:32:07,725 I'm Lilie. In this film 1211 01:32:07,904 --> 01:32:09,865 I'll be Orlando. 1212 01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:12,318 Of Virginia Woolf. 1213 01:32:12,517 --> 01:32:15,842 - Virginia Woolf. - Virginia Woolf! 1214 01:32:15,975 --> 01:32:18,002 I was told not to say it. 1215 01:32:24,099 --> 01:32:25,130 Cut! 1216 01:32:27,615 --> 01:32:31,815 And it is for the right to edit our lives that we are still fighting today. 1217 01:32:31,871 --> 01:32:36,990 I'm Artur. In this film I'll play Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 1218 01:32:38,187 --> 01:32:40,004 I'm a trans girl. 1219 01:32:40,029 --> 01:32:43,726 I live in Arroyo de Sansilva. Over the last 4 years, 1220 01:32:43,780 --> 01:32:48,168 I was on a very important path, the path to my happiness. 1221 01:32:48,193 --> 01:32:51,062 But it's still necessary to remember 1222 01:32:51,098 --> 01:32:54,223 I have the right to be called how I feel. 1223 01:32:54,352 --> 01:32:55,582 4 years later, 1224 01:32:55,607 --> 01:32:58,531 mistakes over my name are a bit strange, 1225 01:32:58,611 --> 01:33:02,001 as if anyone could doubt I'm a trans girl. 1226 01:33:02,306 --> 01:33:04,482 Your Orlandos are still there. 1227 01:33:04,526 --> 01:33:10,102 Now, for the first time, they start to speak up and to exist by themselves. 1228 01:33:10,551 --> 01:33:14,301 To choose their name and to choose their own life. 1229 01:33:15,078 --> 01:33:19,003 The world to come belongs to the new Orlandos. 1230 01:33:19,067 --> 01:33:21,763 They will edit the film of History. 1231 01:33:22,424 --> 01:33:26,165 It is for them that you wrote your book, even without knowing it, 1232 01:33:26,255 --> 01:33:28,316 and that I made this film. 1233 01:33:28,501 --> 01:33:32,400 But of all I have to say today, the main thing is this: 1234 01:33:32,486 --> 01:33:37,273 ladies and gentlemen involved in politics, continue, despite the threats, 1235 01:33:37,298 --> 01:33:40,884 to make laws that recognize that people are diverse. 1236 01:33:41,014 --> 01:33:46,013 Above all, we trans people have the right to be who we are. 1237 01:33:46,038 --> 01:33:50,094 Don't let anyone take away our happiness. Thank you. 1238 01:34:08,330 --> 01:34:09,793 Today... 1239 01:34:10,491 --> 01:34:13,925 Wednesday October 11, 2028, 1240 01:34:14,050 --> 01:34:18,674 faced with the collapse of the patriarchal-colonial regime, 1241 01:34:18,727 --> 01:34:24,233 and by the powers given to me by Virginia Woolf and literature, 1242 01:34:24,645 --> 01:34:26,241 I declare 1243 01:34:26,536 --> 01:34:31,488 the abolition of the assignment of sexual difference at birth 1244 01:34:31,619 --> 01:34:35,974 and its legal and administrative registration. 1245 01:34:36,505 --> 01:34:38,035 Thus, 1246 01:34:38,522 --> 01:34:43,907 I grant planetary, non-binary citizenship to 1247 01:34:44,012 --> 01:34:46,871 Orlando Emma. 1248 01:35:00,958 --> 01:35:03,318 Orlando Jenny. 1249 01:35:05,572 --> 01:35:08,231 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1250 01:35:13,716 --> 01:35:16,242 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1251 01:35:22,187 --> 01:35:25,079 Orlando La Burette 1252 01:35:42,579 --> 01:35:45,271 Orlando Victor 1253 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,949 ♪ You might be pathetic But not apologetic ♪ 1254 01:35:53,974 --> 01:35:55,935 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1255 01:35:59,837 --> 01:36:01,731 ♪ It's time to bite ♪ 1256 01:36:05,873 --> 01:36:08,134 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1257 01:36:08,215 --> 01:36:11,107 Orlando Noah 1258 01:36:15,215 --> 01:36:16,379 ♪ No! No! ♪ 1259 01:36:18,365 --> 01:36:20,891 Orlando Amir 1260 01:36:32,568 --> 01:36:33,432 ♪ No! No! ♪ 1261 01:36:33,457 --> 01:36:37,480 ♪ Oh, Virginia What have we done? ♪ 1262 01:36:38,669 --> 01:36:41,428 ♪ Do you want a job with us? ♪ 1263 01:36:43,039 --> 01:36:46,030 ♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪ 1264 01:36:51,055 --> 01:36:53,781 Orlando Oscar 1265 01:36:56,233 --> 01:36:58,660 ♪ I am your Orlando ♪ 1266 01:36:59,281 --> 01:37:00,278 ♪ Virginia ♪ 1267 01:37:00,389 --> 01:37:05,441 ♪ Do you really think that I could Ever, ever live like that? ♪ 1268 01:37:06,126 --> 01:37:08,320 ♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪ 1269 01:37:24,927 --> 01:37:29,116 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1270 01:37:30,221 --> 01:37:32,515 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1271 01:37:34,376 --> 01:37:36,935 ♪ You're not the doctor's bitch ♪ 1272 01:37:41,748 --> 01:37:45,804 ♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪ 1273 01:37:48,861 --> 01:37:51,388 - Here's to the judge! - The judge! 1274 01:37:57,198 --> 01:38:01,619 ♪ Pharmacoliberation ♪ 1275 01:38:08,799 --> 01:38:12,023 I'm Virginie Despentes. In this film 1276 01:38:12,179 --> 01:38:15,899 I'll be the judge of Virginia Woolf's Orlando. 101299

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