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Morning, Lisbon.
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Morning. You close?
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No. Flat tire.
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All right.
Well, we'll talk when you get here.
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Oh, wait a minute.
Just 'cause I'm not there
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doesn't mean I
can't be of help.
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Hold on a sec.
What do you got?
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Victim's name is Michelle Karp...
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I'm putting you on speaker.
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19. She left the restaurant
where she worked around 11:00 P.M.
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Never made it home.
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Looks like she was
abducted and murdered.
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Her body was dumped here
sometime late last night.
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Dog walker found
her an hour ago.
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- Thanks.
- All right.
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The body's on State Park land
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near a picnic area not
far from the road.
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How was she killed?
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Her throat was slit.
It looks pretty clean, precise.
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Mm. Blood?
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Hardly a drop.
She's fully clothed,
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so probably no sexual assault.
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Her hands and feet
are bound with wire.
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Small pebbles have been
placed on her eyes.
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Huh, nice touch.
Pebbles from the crime scene?
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It looks like it, yeah.
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And the--oh. And the wire?
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It's knotted.
Neatly, carefully.
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Someone took their time.
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Yeah, you're right.
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I didn't say anything.
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No, but you were
thinking something.
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You were thinking,
whoever did this
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has killed before many times.
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Yes, but I can't assume that.
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Trust your instincts, Lisbon.
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Hey, boss. Just got off the
phone with Fresno PD.
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The killer's M.O.
fits four other murders
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they've had in the
past 18 months.
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Looks like we've got
a serial killer.
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Huh? See?
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Sync by YYeTs, corrections by Alex1969
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Fresno PD sent over their
files about an hour ago.
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Here's what we got so far.
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The San Joaquin killer
abducts young girls,
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all between the
ages of 16 and 20.
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He takes them to a location
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where he binds their hands
and feet with wire,
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then cuts their throat
before dumping the bodies.
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Small objects found near
the crime scene are placed
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over their eyes...
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pebbles, pieces of glass,
and bottle caps so far.
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Any pattern to where
the bodies were found?
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No, it seems random, but we--
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Fresno PD
did say that all of the girls
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were taken at
opportune moments,
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often the only time of day
that they were left alone,
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meaning he stalks them
before he kills them.
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Does Fresno PD
have a suspect?
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Yep.
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Eight suspects?
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Yeah. Because of the lack
of forensic evidence,
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they haven't been able
to narrow down the list.
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All right.
Grab Cho, get the list of names,
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and talk to them one by one.
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Okay.
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What?
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Well, you're just going
through the motions.
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Yeah, it's called police work.
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Well, why not try
a fresh approach?
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Like what, tarot cards?
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Go directly to the one
that feels right.
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These are all
viable suspects.
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The Fresno PD
did their job well.
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So you're just gonna do
the same job over again?
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Take a close look at these guys.
Use your intuition.
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Which one is guilty?
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I don't know.
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Oh, come on.
You've been a cop for a long time.
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What you don't know
is how much you know
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without knowing you know it.
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Take a guess and run with it.
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All right. Okay.
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- Okay.
- All right. It's Okay.
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Not him.
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Bow tie--no.
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Not him.
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Or him.
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It could be him.
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Sneaky eyes.
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On the other hand, he's
got a college education.
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Eh, that profiling blather.
Forget about that.
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Go with your gut.
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There. In seconds,
you've whittled it down
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to a manageable
three suspects.
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Which one of these
guys jumps out at you?
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This one?
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Well, yeah, but
it's just a hunch.
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I don't even know why.
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Best kind of hunch.
As good a place to start as any.
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Nicely done, Lisbon.
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His name is Richard Haibach.
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He's 44 years old,
lives alone.
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He has an alibi for
two of the murders,
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but Fresno PD
logged complaints against him
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for loitering.
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Apparently he likes to park
outside local high schools,
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including one a
victim went to.
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That's all I got.
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All right.
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You mind waiting here?
I want to talk to him on my own.
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Sure.
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Richard Haibach?
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Who are you?
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I'm agent Lisbon with the CBI.
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You mind if I ask you
a few questions?
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Actually, I do.
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It shouldn't take long, sir.
Can I come in?
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Uh, not without a warrant.
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Okay. Uh, can you tell me
where you were last night?
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Home alone all night.
Why, was there another murder?
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I can't comment on an
ongoing investigation, sir.
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That means there was one.
I'm not dumb.
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I have said a hundred
times already,
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I've got nothing
to do with this.
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Sir, I didn't--
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you people just won't let go.
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I'm getting so tired of you
harassing me all the time.
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Mr. Haibach, I just
have a few questions,
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and then I'll be on my way.
I know the law.
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I don't have to answer
your damn questions.
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I don't have to to
tell you anything.
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Hey, boss.
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Anything? Update?
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Yeah, I checked out the other
two suspects on the list.
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The first has been out
of state all week.
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The FAA flight
list confirms it.
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The second was at home
with his wife, kids,
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and in-laws last night.
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Anyone else on the list?
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Cho's working those.
Half alibied out straightaway.
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He's starting on the
other half now.
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Hold off.
I want you two to canvas
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the area of the crime scene.
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See if you can put
Richard Haibach
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anywhere near
there last night.
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So? Is he our guy?
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I didn't get a good
feeling from him.
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So we'll start with
an intro, you know,
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background on the
San Joaquin killer,
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and then I'll go right into
questions for you two.
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Um, wait. Excuse me, gentlemen,
one moment, please.
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Paul, can you hold
the roll, please?
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Mr. Jane, how are you?
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- Hello, Karen.
- Okay, listen, I understand,
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but I have a new show now.
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It's a whole new
format, more intimate,
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none of that "gotcha" journalism
that they made me do.
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Oh. What'd they do, hold
your shoes hostage?
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Very funny.
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This week I'm taking
an in-depth look
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at the San Joaquin killer.
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I was hoping you'd join me for
the broadcast Thursday night,
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offer your insight and
personal experience.
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You don't need me.
You have special agent Wainright here.
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He's a good, honest man.
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Yes, but he doesn't pop
on camera the way you do.
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Oh, Karen, you flatter me.
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Good to see you. Be well.
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Let's go.
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With me today is special
agent Luther Wainright
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of the CBI. Welcome.
And James Panzer,
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an investigative crime
reporter and blogger.
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Mr. Panzer,
we'll start with you.
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You've been tracking
the San Joaquin killer
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for how long now?
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Well, it's been, uh,
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nearly two years now, Karen.
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That's when he took the
life of Molly Maier,
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a young girl who lived just
down the street from me
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back in Fresno.
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Uh, that was his first
victim that we know of.
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And pursuing him is pretty
much your life now, right?
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You created a web site
devoted to his capture?
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Yes, that's right.
Molly's family--
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they're good people, and
they deserve justice.
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All his victims
deserve justice.
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I'm simply trying to
help achieve that goal.
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And s-special--
lieutenant Wainright...
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Special agent Wainright.
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Special agent-- and
special agent Wainright,
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how close are you
to that goal,
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to arresting the San
Joaquin killer?
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Well, Karen, we are
absolutely making progress.
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Working on a computer?
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What's next, ray
guns, teleporters?
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Hang on. Hey, Cho.
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Haibach wasn't
home last night.
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He was at a bodega close
to the crime scene
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about an hour before
Michelle Karp went missing.
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Owner ID'd him, said he was
parked in front of his store
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for 20 minutes before
he went inside.
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How close is close
to the crime scene?
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Hey, how far from the
crime scene are we?
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Six blocks.
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What?
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Six blocks.
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Six blocks.
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All right.
I'll work on judge Waters.
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The proximity and the
fact that Haibach lied
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should be enough to get him to
sign off on a search warrant.
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Okay.
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What?
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How do you not feel
that on your face?
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Feel what?
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James Panzer?
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Patrick Jane.
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- Hello.
- Thanks for meeting with me.
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Oh, anything I can do to
help with the investigation.
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So, James, what's your deal?
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You've devoted your life to the
capture of a serial killer.
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That's either very
saintly or very weird.
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Well, that's an odd
notion coming from you,
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and I know about you,
Mr. Jane.
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Ah, I thought you might.
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Red John did kill my family.
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Uh, what is it that
gives you cause?
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What did Molly
Maier mean to you?
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Well, I didn't know her.
I never spoke to her.
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I just saw her at the bus
stop a couple of times,
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but, uh, it was
such a brutal act.
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I mean, it was so
close to home that
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it had a visceral impact on
me that I couldn't shake.
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I don't know why.
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I mean, people search
for reason or meaning
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behind events in their lives,
when more often than not,
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there is none.
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Oh, uh, congratulations,
by the way.
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Thank you. For what?
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You killed Red John.
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Oh, that. Yes.
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What was that like?
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Yeah, uh...
not as satisfying as you might think.
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You know, something occurred
to me while I was reading
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- your web site.
- Yes?
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The people that post
comments on the site,
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uh, have you considered
that one of them might be
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the San Joaquin killer?
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Well, it's a possibility,
albeit a rather obvious one.
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You see, the San
Joaquin killer
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is not like other
serial killers.
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He doesn't kill for
the same reasons.
255
00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:50,143
He commits murder solely
for the immediate pleasure
256
00:10:50,144 --> 00:10:51,983
that he takes in the act.
257
00:10:51,984 --> 00:10:54,424
The media, other
people's reactions...
258
00:10:54,425 --> 00:10:56,212
that's irrelevant to him.
259
00:10:56,213 --> 00:10:57,072
A purist.
260
00:10:57,073 --> 00:11:01,432
Exactly. Consider the way
he murders his victims.
261
00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:05,167
He slits their throats
slowly, carefully,
262
00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:08,330
so he can watch the life
drain out of their eyes.
263
00:11:10,330 --> 00:11:12,810
Uh, I apologize if I'm
making you uncomfortable.
264
00:11:12,811 --> 00:11:15,054
Oh, no. It's in my wheelhouse.
265
00:11:15,184 --> 00:11:17,870
This killer has
come to consume me.
266
00:11:19,619 --> 00:11:20,644
Mr. Panzer, how would you feel
267
00:11:20,645 --> 00:11:23,075
about helping me with
this investigation?
268
00:11:23,076 --> 00:11:25,460
Well, there's nothing
I would like more.
269
00:11:25,461 --> 00:11:26,664
Excellent.
270
00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:32,881
Mr. Haibach, CBI. Open up.
271
00:11:33,898 --> 00:11:36,017
I told you, I'm through
answering your questions.
272
00:11:36,018 --> 00:11:37,783
I'm through being harassed.
273
00:11:37,784 --> 00:11:39,758
I have rights, like
anybody else, right?
274
00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:40,462
I don't want to have
275
00:11:40,463 --> 00:11:42,610
- to talk to you!
- This is a warrant to search the premises.
276
00:11:42,611 --> 00:11:44,748
Could you step aside, please?
277
00:11:51,392 --> 00:11:52,355
You clear the back.
278
00:11:52,356 --> 00:11:53,520
I'll wait here.
279
00:12:39,534 --> 00:12:41,596
Abuse of power,
that's what this is.
280
00:13:20,893 --> 00:13:22,382
Step aside.
281
00:13:24,575 --> 00:13:26,990
I said, step aside!
282
00:13:38,498 --> 00:13:39,876
Lisbon!
283
00:13:49,023 --> 00:13:51,054
Did you ID any of the women
in the photos yet?
284
00:13:51,055 --> 00:13:53,167
Some, but so far we haven't
been able to match any
285
00:13:53,168 --> 00:13:54,797
to the San Joaquin
killer's victims.
286
00:13:54,798 --> 00:13:57,289
Haibach would have burned them first.
He's not stupid.
287
00:13:57,290 --> 00:13:59,372
Keep on looking.
His lawyer's on his way.
288
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,183
He won't talk
without his lawyer.
289
00:14:09,184 --> 00:14:12,384
He's been around the block a
few times with Fresno PD.
290
00:14:12,683 --> 00:14:13,868
Hmm.
291
00:14:13,936 --> 00:14:15,289
"Hmm" what?
292
00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:17,369
He's a meticulous,
maladjusted loner
293
00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:21,106
who's into stalking young
women, and he has no alibi.
294
00:14:21,107 --> 00:14:22,866
Yeah, he certainly
looks the part.
295
00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:26,378
I like him for this.
I like him a lot.
296
00:14:34,306 --> 00:14:35,486
Hello?
297
00:14:35,487 --> 00:14:36,959
Hi. It's Patrick Jane.
298
00:14:37,088 --> 00:14:39,197
What's your take on
Richard Haibach?
299
00:14:39,419 --> 00:14:41,030
Oh, he's, uh, one
of the suspects
300
00:14:41,031 --> 00:14:43,576
that the Fresno PD
identified.
301
00:14:43,577 --> 00:14:45,951
Antisocial, underachiever...
302
00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:48,114
he's viable, but he doesn't
have the intelligence
303
00:14:48,115 --> 00:14:50,140
I'd be looking for in our man.
304
00:14:50,141 --> 00:14:53,458
Thanks. I don't disagree.
305
00:14:54,719 --> 00:14:56,716
I-it's said that the truest
motive for a serial killer
306
00:14:56,717 --> 00:14:58,682
often lies with
the first victim.
307
00:14:58,683 --> 00:14:59,726
Molly Maier.
308
00:14:59,727 --> 00:15:00,691
Yeah, I-I was wondering
309
00:15:00,692 --> 00:15:02,792
if you could introduce
me to her family.
310
00:15:02,793 --> 00:15:05,413
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
Give me an hour or so.
311
00:15:05,414 --> 00:15:06,922
Great. Thanks.
And then maybe we can go over
312
00:15:06,923 --> 00:15:08,546
some of your research
on the case?
313
00:15:08,547 --> 00:15:09,540
Yeah, sure.
314
00:15:09,541 --> 00:15:12,523
You could come by my apartment
after we visit the Maiers.
315
00:15:12,570 --> 00:15:13,831
Thanks.
316
00:15:14,135 --> 00:15:15,428
Okay.
317
00:15:31,459 --> 00:15:34,260
Molly had just turned
16 when she was killed.
318
00:15:34,261 --> 00:15:36,378
She didn't even have
her driver's license.
319
00:15:36,379 --> 00:15:39,081
She was walking home from
her girlfriend's house,
320
00:15:39,082 --> 00:15:40,657
never made it home.
321
00:15:42,987 --> 00:15:45,782
We've been following
the investigation.
322
00:15:45,803 --> 00:15:49,124
Jim's been good enough to keep
us up-to-date with the others.
323
00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:50,714
All those girls.
324
00:15:51,226 --> 00:15:52,401
I can't believe that
nobody's been able
325
00:15:52,402 --> 00:15:54,193
to catch up with this monster.
326
00:15:54,194 --> 00:15:56,663
We will, soon.
327
00:15:58,294 --> 00:15:59,673
I don't know.
328
00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:03,629
I don't know.
329
00:16:04,243 --> 00:16:05,264
Now don't lose hope.
330
00:16:05,265 --> 00:16:07,982
Molly wouldn't want
that, now, would she?
331
00:16:09,974 --> 00:16:11,681
No, she wouldn't.
332
00:16:13,971 --> 00:16:17,688
This killer will be brought to justice.
You have my word.
333
00:16:19,946 --> 00:16:21,601
You think I could take a
look at Molly's bedroom?
334
00:16:21,602 --> 00:16:23,699
No. I don't want...
335
00:16:27,705 --> 00:16:28,994
Of course.
336
00:16:30,130 --> 00:16:33,062
Tom, will you show
him upstairs?
337
00:16:35,565 --> 00:16:36,987
Thank you.
338
00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:38,917
It's okay.
339
00:16:47,987 --> 00:16:49,461
Sorry about the mess.
340
00:16:49,628 --> 00:16:51,708
We really should get
around to cleaning it up.
341
00:16:52,417 --> 00:16:54,891
Truth is, neither of us
has the heart for it.
342
00:17:07,081 --> 00:17:08,981
"Crap recital practice".
343
00:17:16,945 --> 00:17:19,140
D-do you mind, uh...
344
00:17:19,141 --> 00:17:21,453
Oh, uh, yeah, sure.
345
00:17:21,454 --> 00:17:22,649
Thank you.
346
00:17:23,159 --> 00:17:24,706
She loved to dance.
347
00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:29,533
That was, uh... her thing.
348
00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:39,919
Worked really hard at it.
349
00:17:46,743 --> 00:17:50,064
♪ I see trees of green ♪
350
00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:54,011
♪ Red roses, too ♪
351
00:17:54,609 --> 00:17:57,383
♪ I see them bloom ♪
352
00:17:57,796 --> 00:17:59,916
♪ For me and you ♪
353
00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:03,125
♪ And I think to myself ♪
354
00:18:05,380 --> 00:18:07,360
♪ What a wonderful world ♪
355
00:18:07,361 --> 00:18:09,627
Once she decided she
wanted to do something,
356
00:18:09,677 --> 00:18:11,281
there was no stopping her.
357
00:18:12,796 --> 00:18:15,251
Single-minded, determined.
358
00:18:16,915 --> 00:18:17,928
Just like her mother.
359
00:18:17,929 --> 00:18:20,222
♪And clouds of white ♪
360
00:18:21,176 --> 00:18:22,858
♪ The bright blessed day ♪
361
00:18:22,859 --> 00:18:25,697
Must have heard this
song a hundred times.
362
00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:30,001
♪And I think to myself ♪
363
00:18:32,408 --> 00:18:36,365
♪ What a wonderful world ♪
364
00:18:40,571 --> 00:18:43,084
♪ The colors of the rainbow ♪
365
00:18:43,806 --> 00:18:46,677
♪ So pretty in the sky ♪
366
00:18:47,087 --> 00:18:50,076
♪ Are also on the faces ♪
367
00:18:50,322 --> 00:18:52,977
♪ Of people going by ♪
368
00:18:54,927 --> 00:18:55,757
Counselor,
369
00:18:55,758 --> 00:18:58,140
we found dozens of
pictures of young women
370
00:18:58,141 --> 00:18:59,351
in your client's house.
371
00:18:59,352 --> 00:19:01,389
That's your justification
for holding him for murder?
372
00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:03,635
That he took pictures?
He's a photographer.
373
00:19:03,636 --> 00:19:07,229
Sexually suggestive photographs
taken without consent.
374
00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:10,159
Taken in public without
any complaints.
375
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,604
That's not even a misdemeanor.
That's a hobby.
376
00:19:12,605 --> 00:19:14,581
He lied about his whereabouts
the night of the murder.
377
00:19:14,582 --> 00:19:16,132
I was out taking photos.
378
00:19:16,133 --> 00:19:20,825
Shh.
Not exactly a capital offense.
379
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:23,472
Meanwhile, my client
has had to endure
380
00:19:23,473 --> 00:19:26,119
continued police harassment
for a crime he didn't commit.
381
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:27,616
I did not kill those girls!
382
00:19:27,617 --> 00:19:29,736
Richard, do not
say another word.
383
00:19:30,124 --> 00:19:33,510
Agent Lisbon, either
release him now,
384
00:19:33,511 --> 00:19:37,318
or I'm bringing a harassment
lawsuit against you and the CBI
385
00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,165
first thing tomorrow morning.
386
00:19:42,628 --> 00:19:45,351
Mr. Haibach,
you're free to go.
387
00:19:46,588 --> 00:19:47,789
Thank you.
388
00:20:03,074 --> 00:20:06,146
My apartment's upstairs.
Pardon the mess.
389
00:20:13,323 --> 00:20:14,272
Wow.
390
00:20:17,335 --> 00:20:20,314
Newspaper articles,
background on the victims,
391
00:20:20,315 --> 00:20:23,523
interviews with the
victims' families--enjoy.
392
00:20:23,972 --> 00:20:25,188
Hard to know where to start.
393
00:20:25,671 --> 00:20:27,422
Uh, water? Soda? Coffee?
394
00:20:27,423 --> 00:20:29,517
Water would be great.
Can I just dig in?
395
00:20:29,518 --> 00:20:30,227
Oh, be my guest.
396
00:20:30,228 --> 00:20:31,203
Thank you.
397
00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:41,154
Crime scene...
398
00:21:09,882 --> 00:21:12,783
Hope you don't mind that.
Music helps me think.
399
00:21:13,031 --> 00:21:15,925
Oh, not at all.
I'll put the water over here.
400
00:21:30,986 --> 00:21:33,775
The more I think about it, the
more I'm starting to believe
401
00:21:33,776 --> 00:21:35,704
that your analysis of
the San Joaquin killer
402
00:21:35,705 --> 00:21:36,886
may be wrong.
403
00:21:38,168 --> 00:21:39,131
How so?
404
00:21:39,161 --> 00:21:40,691
Well, you said he's a purist,
405
00:21:40,692 --> 00:21:43,972
a man who kills simply
for the pleasure of it.
406
00:21:44,189 --> 00:21:48,364
I'm starting to think
he's a deeply damaged man
407
00:21:48,365 --> 00:21:50,720
who kills out of a
need for attention.
408
00:21:53,581 --> 00:21:55,553
Neglected as a
child, I'd guess.
409
00:21:57,391 --> 00:21:58,623
What do you think, Jim?
410
00:21:59,588 --> 00:22:01,675
Well, I think you
couldn't be more wrong.
411
00:22:04,302 --> 00:22:06,044
Look, I know the
San Joaquin killer
412
00:22:06,045 --> 00:22:08,312
better than anyone, as
you yourself have said.
413
00:22:08,376 --> 00:22:11,290
I've spent over a year
inhabiting his mind.
414
00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:14,126
This man is brilliant.
415
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,693
He's a genius who's run
circles around the police.
416
00:22:18,342 --> 00:22:20,707
He's killed at will
without repercussion.
417
00:22:23,787 --> 00:22:27,059
This is a man to be
feared, not pitied.
418
00:22:29,783 --> 00:22:30,710
Excuse me.
419
00:22:34,727 --> 00:22:35,648
Hello?
420
00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:39,181
Jane? SFPD
found another body.
421
00:22:40,158 --> 00:22:42,238
Looks like the San
Joaquin killer.
422
00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:43,676
Okay.
423
00:22:47,046 --> 00:22:48,335
It's him, isn't it?
424
00:22:50,019 --> 00:22:51,163
He's killed again.
425
00:22:55,019 --> 00:22:58,427
Name's Jill Reisert, 18.
It's the San Joaquin killer.
426
00:22:58,590 --> 00:23:00,729
Hands, feet bound
with the same wire,
427
00:23:00,821 --> 00:23:01,868
tighed in the same knot.
428
00:23:01,869 --> 00:23:03,886
Killed elsewhere,
dumped randomly.
429
00:23:04,409 --> 00:23:05,675
Pebbles on the eyes?
430
00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,001
No. No eyes.
431
00:23:18,953 --> 00:23:20,901
Only days after
the last murder.
432
00:23:21,754 --> 00:23:23,539
He has a taste for
attention now.
433
00:23:24,493 --> 00:23:26,448
Bigger city, bigger
stage, bigger violence.
434
00:23:26,449 --> 00:23:28,664
He's getting more and
more excited by it all.
435
00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:30,198
What time was she killed?
436
00:23:30,199 --> 00:23:31,053
Based on the amount of rigor,
437
00:23:31,054 --> 00:23:32,695
coroner thinks it was
sometime this morning.
438
00:23:32,696 --> 00:23:34,875
Haibach was free by then.
He could have done it.
439
00:23:34,876 --> 00:23:37,517
No. I know who did this--
440
00:23:38,003 --> 00:23:38,808
James Panzer.
441
00:23:38,809 --> 00:23:41,979
Panzer?
The reporter covering the case?
442
00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:44,151
The Fresno PD
would have checked him out.
443
00:23:44,263 --> 00:23:44,832
They did.
444
00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:48,092
He had an alibi for two of the
murders, both faked somehow.
445
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:49,919
Look into them if you don't
believe me, or don't.
446
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,309
I don't care.
I know it was him.
447
00:23:52,462 --> 00:23:53,373
Evidence.
448
00:23:53,527 --> 00:23:54,612
That's the problem.
449
00:23:54,613 --> 00:23:56,886
We don't have anything
linking him to the crime.
450
00:23:57,037 --> 00:23:58,955
FBI's pushing to
take over this case.
451
00:23:59,162 --> 00:24:01,194
I'm doing everything I can to
hold them off, but honestly,
452
00:24:01,195 --> 00:24:03,801
I don't have the pull.
We need an arrest.
453
00:24:03,939 --> 00:24:05,237
I'll get him.
I just need time.
454
00:24:05,238 --> 00:24:07,442
- Time we don't have.
- I said I'll get him.
455
00:24:07,848 --> 00:24:10,186
Okay. How long do you need?
456
00:24:10,377 --> 00:24:12,185
I'll have him in custody
by the morning.
457
00:24:15,691 --> 00:24:17,889
Give you till the morning.
Good luck.
458
00:24:20,339 --> 00:24:22,870
Panzer knows everything
about this case.
459
00:24:23,096 --> 00:24:26,251
We've got no forensic
evidence and no eyewitnesses.
460
00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:27,944
How do you propose
we catch him?
461
00:24:27,945 --> 00:24:29,848
We take away what
he wants most.
462
00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:42,385
Mr. Jane.
463
00:24:45,573 --> 00:24:46,553
Any news?
464
00:24:46,804 --> 00:24:48,771
Uh, n-not now, Karen.
465
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:50,909
Please, give us a
morsel, anything.
466
00:24:59,624 --> 00:25:00,932
Okay. We have a suspect.
467
00:25:00,933 --> 00:25:02,807
We'll be making an
arrest sometime tonight.
468
00:25:02,808 --> 00:25:05,152
We'll announce it to the press
first thing tomorrow morning.
469
00:25:05,153 --> 00:25:06,041
Who is it?
470
00:25:06,082 --> 00:25:07,614
You'll find out tomorrow.
471
00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:08,772
Come on, Patrick. I need more.
472
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:11,015
Just tell me if it's one
of the previous suspects.
473
00:25:13,535 --> 00:25:14,779
It is, isn't it?
474
00:25:16,747 --> 00:25:18,183
You didn't hear it from me.
475
00:25:18,678 --> 00:25:19,455
You can trust me.
476
00:25:19,456 --> 00:25:21,946
No, I mean it, Karen.
You can't go public with this today.
477
00:25:21,947 --> 00:25:22,829
I'm only telling you
478
00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,997
so you're not caught off
guard tomorrow morning.
479
00:25:25,135 --> 00:25:28,213
Thank you. Wait. Patrick.
480
00:25:29,304 --> 00:25:30,080
The offer's still open
481
00:25:30,081 --> 00:25:31,777
if you want to come on
my show tomorrow night.
482
00:25:31,778 --> 00:25:34,477
Uh, yeah, thank you,
but no, thanks.
483
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,367
Just think about it.
That's all I ask.
484
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:37,405
Sure.
485
00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:39,844
Dan. Dan.
486
00:25:41,534 --> 00:25:43,851
Call the office and
clear the 7:00 open.
487
00:25:44,579 --> 00:25:45,997
I've got a breaking story.
488
00:25:46,976 --> 00:25:48,444
All right. What's going on?
489
00:25:48,445 --> 00:25:50,686
Panzer committed these
murders out of hubris.
490
00:25:50,687 --> 00:25:52,925
He wants to create a mythology
around the San Joaquin killer.
491
00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:55,060
That's why he started
the web site.
492
00:25:55,273 --> 00:25:56,365
He doesn't just want to kill.
493
00:25:56,366 --> 00:25:58,140
He wants people to
be in awe of him.
494
00:25:58,141 --> 00:25:59,021
Yes?
495
00:25:59,022 --> 00:26:00,601
So we arrest someone
else for the murders,
496
00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:02,503
someone pathetic and unworthy,
497
00:26:02,504 --> 00:26:05,870
thus destroying his mythology
with one fatal blow.
498
00:26:05,871 --> 00:26:08,520
Panzer will go out and kill
again just to prove us wrong,
499
00:26:08,521 --> 00:26:10,461
and we will be there
waiting for him.
500
00:26:10,605 --> 00:26:12,030
Arrest somebody else?
501
00:26:13,654 --> 00:26:14,844
Ohh.
502
00:26:15,927 --> 00:26:16,980
Are you sure, boss?
503
00:26:18,054 --> 00:26:19,240
I got this.
504
00:26:20,474 --> 00:26:22,799
- Come on. You people just don't quit--
- Mr. Haibach.
505
00:26:23,310 --> 00:26:24,466
You're under arrest.
506
00:26:24,481 --> 00:26:25,390
For what?
507
00:26:25,889 --> 00:26:27,176
We'll think of something.
508
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:30,647
Hello?
509
00:26:30,747 --> 00:26:33,650
Mr. Panzer, it's Patrick.
I have some information.
510
00:26:39,118 --> 00:26:40,051
We got him.
511
00:26:40,422 --> 00:26:42,839
San Joaquin killer.
Made an arrest.
512
00:26:42,858 --> 00:26:44,608
Yeah, I heard something
about it on the news,
513
00:26:44,609 --> 00:26:46,287
but I didn't believe it.
Who is it?
514
00:26:46,288 --> 00:26:47,575
Richard Haibach.
515
00:26:47,609 --> 00:26:49,096
Well, I thought
he had an alibi.
516
00:26:49,097 --> 00:26:51,152
Faked.
Lied about the whole thing,
517
00:26:51,153 --> 00:26:52,863
which is not too
difficult to pull off
518
00:26:52,864 --> 00:26:54,224
if you know what you're doing.
519
00:26:54,225 --> 00:26:55,550
And you're certain
that it's him?
520
00:26:55,551 --> 00:26:57,834
We found pictures of
young women in his home.
521
00:26:58,223 --> 00:26:59,809
Two of the victims
were amongst them.
522
00:26:59,810 --> 00:27:01,508
Well, that doesn't
prove he's the killer.
523
00:27:01,509 --> 00:27:04,775
We found something else. I mean,
I can't comment on specifics,
524
00:27:04,776 --> 00:27:07,696
but the AG's
office is confident that it,
525
00:27:07,697 --> 00:27:10,224
along with Haibach's
proximity to the Karp murder
526
00:27:10,225 --> 00:27:13,513
and the photos will be
enough for a conviction.
527
00:27:14,234 --> 00:27:16,337
We'll announce it to the
press tomorrow morning.
528
00:27:16,787 --> 00:27:18,033
I wanted you to know first,
529
00:27:18,034 --> 00:27:20,950
given your...
personal attachment to the case.
530
00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:23,716
And I just wanted to stop by
531
00:27:23,717 --> 00:27:25,473
and say thanks for
your help, Jim.
532
00:27:25,474 --> 00:27:27,439
Oh, yes, of course.
533
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,082
Look, can I get you a
drink or something?
534
00:27:30,083 --> 00:27:33,719
No, thanks.
Do you mind if I use your restroom?
535
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,206
Oh, sure, sure.
Right, right over there.
536
00:27:35,207 --> 00:27:37,010
- End of the hall here?
- Yes.
537
00:28:18,107 --> 00:28:20,812
You sure you don't want
a drink or a snack?
538
00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,354
Oh, no. I-I have to get going.
539
00:28:28,723 --> 00:28:31,013
You know, i-it's
funny, isn't it?
540
00:28:31,014 --> 00:28:31,843
What's that?
541
00:28:32,448 --> 00:28:34,704
We were both wrong about
the San Joaquin killer.
542
00:28:35,499 --> 00:28:38,686
He wasn't a purist, nor was he
a man desperate for attention.
543
00:28:38,687 --> 00:28:40,698
He was just a sick,
sexually deranged man
544
00:28:40,699 --> 00:28:42,600
that likes to take
pictures of little girls.
545
00:28:44,018 --> 00:28:47,287
Simple-minded pervert.
Good night.
546
00:29:12,445 --> 00:29:13,514
Come on.
547
00:29:19,645 --> 00:29:20,651
There he is.
548
00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:40,487
Wait.
549
00:30:10,541 --> 00:30:12,338
I'll call SFPD for backup.
550
00:30:18,874 --> 00:30:19,655
Jane!
551
00:30:37,948 --> 00:30:39,483
Ladies first.
552
00:30:53,405 --> 00:30:55,550
Uhh... Lisbon?
553
00:31:22,321 --> 00:31:23,973
Couldn't stay away, could you?
554
00:31:25,612 --> 00:31:28,218
Put your hands in the air.
Step back from the table.
555
00:31:28,219 --> 00:31:29,321
What are you doing here?
556
00:31:29,433 --> 00:31:31,839
I said put your hands
in the air now!
557
00:31:32,049 --> 00:31:34,288
Look, you don't understand.
I jus--
558
00:31:37,456 --> 00:31:38,591
What are you doing here?
559
00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:41,727
Turn the camera off.
560
00:31:42,138 --> 00:31:43,813
Karen called me
about an hour ago.
561
00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:46,607
She gave me this address.
She asked me to meet her here.
562
00:31:46,963 --> 00:31:49,584
I have never been here
before in my life.
563
00:31:51,611 --> 00:31:53,717
I said turn the camera off.
564
00:31:53,718 --> 00:31:54,770
Turn it off.
565
00:31:57,692 --> 00:31:58,894
You called him?
566
00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:01,520
He's the expert.
I wanted him to authenticate
567
00:32:01,521 --> 00:32:02,848
that this was, in
fact, the kill room
568
00:32:02,849 --> 00:32:04,579
used by the San
Joaquin killer.
569
00:32:04,882 --> 00:32:06,171
How did you know
about this place?
570
00:32:06,172 --> 00:32:09,440
She was contacted by him,
by the San Joaquin killer.
571
00:32:09,951 --> 00:32:12,655
Yes.
Just after my 7:00 broadcast,
572
00:32:12,656 --> 00:32:14,759
during which I announced the
CBI had someone in custody.
573
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,112
Someone texted me from
a blocked number,
574
00:32:17,113 --> 00:32:19,500
said he was the SJK
and then gave me this address.
575
00:32:19,968 --> 00:32:21,128
All right. Out.
576
00:32:21,374 --> 00:32:24,240
This is officially a CBI crime scene.
Let's go!
577
00:32:51,903 --> 00:32:54,378
I tried to tell you you
had the wrong man.
578
00:32:54,713 --> 00:32:55,886
You set this up.
579
00:32:56,944 --> 00:32:58,804
You knew we were
following you.
580
00:32:58,883 --> 00:33:00,478
I don't know what
you're talking about,
581
00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:02,984
but I have to admit, I'm
very hurt by all this.
582
00:33:03,187 --> 00:33:05,418
I mean, here I thought you
were seeking my help,
583
00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:06,742
that we were kindred spirits.
584
00:33:07,591 --> 00:33:09,895
Where all along you
were just lying to me.
585
00:33:09,974 --> 00:33:10,880
You were using me.
586
00:33:12,318 --> 00:33:13,682
That kind of duplicity...
587
00:33:14,653 --> 00:33:17,189
leading a double life, I
don't know how you do that.
588
00:33:34,806 --> 00:33:36,381
Agent Lisbon, Jane,
589
00:33:37,084 --> 00:33:39,396
I'd like you to meet FBI
special agent Susan Darcy.
590
00:33:41,002 --> 00:33:41,918
As of this morning,
591
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,279
she and her team will be
taking over the investigation.
592
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,126
- Sir--
- No, it's okay. It's fine.
593
00:33:46,127 --> 00:33:48,518
The man you want
is James Panzer.
594
00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,536
What sort of evidence
do you have on Panzer?
595
00:33:52,674 --> 00:33:54,581
- Well, nothing--
- Well, Nothing concrete.
596
00:33:54,582 --> 00:33:56,658
Not, your-your kind
of evidence, anyhow.
597
00:33:58,553 --> 00:34:00,212
How about your
kind of evidence?
598
00:34:01,555 --> 00:34:03,840
His medicine cabinet
is too neat.
599
00:34:07,363 --> 00:34:09,150
That's an interesting
perspective.
600
00:34:09,764 --> 00:34:10,865
I'll absorb the case files
601
00:34:10,866 --> 00:34:12,780
and if Panzer looks like
a good unsub for us,
602
00:34:12,781 --> 00:34:15,444
you can be rest assured that
my team and I will be on him.
603
00:34:16,496 --> 00:34:17,545
No, you won't.
604
00:34:19,005 --> 00:34:19,556
Jane?
605
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:21,589
While she's absorbing
the case files,
606
00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:22,901
Panzer will kill again.
607
00:34:22,902 --> 00:34:24,257
You're not being
constructive right now.
608
00:34:24,258 --> 00:34:24,903
I'm just being honest.
609
00:34:24,904 --> 00:34:25,781
It's okay.
610
00:34:27,443 --> 00:34:28,504
I understand you're upset.
611
00:34:28,505 --> 00:34:30,303
You have every
reason to be upset.
612
00:34:30,864 --> 00:34:33,148
I would be, too, if someone
was taking over my case.
613
00:34:33,692 --> 00:34:36,253
If he does kill again, it
will be my responsibility,
614
00:34:36,254 --> 00:34:37,793
and I will answer for it.
615
00:34:37,881 --> 00:34:39,576
But let me be very clear...
616
00:34:40,301 --> 00:34:43,995
this investigation is now under
the jurisdiction of the FBI.
617
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:45,580
It's all yours.
618
00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:53,443
I'm gonna need those case files
as soon as possible, please.
619
00:34:53,444 --> 00:34:54,541
Yeah.
620
00:34:58,021 --> 00:34:58,770
Jane.
621
00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:01,843
Jane, you heard Wainright.
622
00:35:02,254 --> 00:35:03,375
Our hands are tied.
623
00:35:03,612 --> 00:35:04,500
Yeah.
624
00:35:08,417 --> 00:35:10,365
Yeah. Maybe yours are.
625
00:35:19,663 --> 00:35:22,932
Well, Karen, no disrespect
to the CBI or the FBI,
626
00:35:22,933 --> 00:35:25,768
but it's not a good sign
when a case as complex
627
00:35:25,769 --> 00:35:26,923
and important as this one
628
00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:28,997
is shuttled from
agency to agency.
629
00:35:28,998 --> 00:35:32,934
There's... there's a lack of
communication and consistency,
630
00:35:32,935 --> 00:35:36,021
there's a, there's a pointless
replication of effort.
631
00:35:36,022 --> 00:35:37,494
I mean, you see
the same problems
632
00:35:37,495 --> 00:35:39,453
in the search for
the Zodiac killer.
633
00:35:39,454 --> 00:35:40,861
Uh, hold that thought, James.
634
00:35:40,986 --> 00:35:43,127
We'll be right back
after a quick break,
635
00:35:43,128 --> 00:35:46,892
with our guest, James Panzer,
and a surprise special guest,
636
00:35:46,958 --> 00:35:49,207
CBI consultant Patrick Jane.
637
00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:51,380
And... clear.
638
00:35:51,945 --> 00:35:53,206
I hope you don't mind.
639
00:35:53,462 --> 00:35:54,423
But--
640
00:35:54,497 --> 00:35:55,511
Patrick.
641
00:35:55,873 --> 00:35:57,709
Thank you so much
for coming, really.
642
00:36:00,121 --> 00:36:00,827
Hi.
643
00:36:02,193 --> 00:36:03,583
We're getting Mr. Jane
mic-ed, yeah?
644
00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:04,572
Yes, we are.
645
00:36:08,124 --> 00:36:09,057
In five,
646
00:36:09,818 --> 00:36:11,612
four, three, two...
647
00:36:13,721 --> 00:36:16,697
Joining us now on this
SJK special edition
648
00:36:16,698 --> 00:36:19,587
is Patrick Jane, a
consultant with the CBI,
649
00:36:19,588 --> 00:36:22,769
who has his own amazing
story of terrible tragedy
650
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:25,340
and cold revenge.
Patrick, thank you for joining us.
651
00:36:25,341 --> 00:36:27,174
Oh, it's my pleasure, Karen.
James.
652
00:36:27,175 --> 00:36:29,728
In a nutshell, why has
the San Joaquin killer
653
00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:32,024
proven so difficult
to apprehend?
654
00:36:32,082 --> 00:36:33,470
Well, James is exactly right.
655
00:36:33,471 --> 00:36:35,396
There are too many
cooks in the kitchen.
656
00:36:35,397 --> 00:36:37,232
But I... I would also like to add
657
00:36:37,233 --> 00:36:39,502
that the San Joaquin killer
is very likely someone
658
00:36:39,503 --> 00:36:42,616
that has attached themselves
to the investigation somehow--
659
00:36:42,617 --> 00:36:45,645
someone, uh, hiding
in plain sight.
660
00:36:45,875 --> 00:36:47,154
That's interesting.
Is there anyone
661
00:36:47,155 --> 00:36:48,999
in particular that
you're thinking of?
662
00:36:49,175 --> 00:36:50,599
We have our suspicions.
663
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,930
Well, that sounds promising.
664
00:36:51,931 --> 00:36:54,456
Can we expect an
arrest anytime soon?
665
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,426
Very likely.
666
00:36:55,503 --> 00:36:57,479
- Uh, Karen if I may ask Jane a question...
- Actually, cou--
667
00:36:57,534 --> 00:36:59,607
- I would--
- Could you hold that thought, James?
668
00:36:59,608 --> 00:37:02,725
- Well, I--
- Can you-can you elaborate on that, Patrick?
669
00:37:02,726 --> 00:37:03,487
Uh, what makes you think
670
00:37:03,488 --> 00:37:05,767
that the San Joaquin killer
will be caught soon?
671
00:37:05,768 --> 00:37:08,566
Well, he's become wrapped
up in his own mythology.
672
00:37:08,706 --> 00:37:11,995
Uh, he's drank his own
kool-aid, so to speak.
673
00:37:12,272 --> 00:37:15,140
Well, there is absolutely
nothing to suggest that.
674
00:37:15,141 --> 00:37:17,082
You're right, James,
I have no evidence,
675
00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:19,545
uh, just a good
sense of the man.
676
00:37:19,618 --> 00:37:22,029
The San Joaquin killer
is a sad little person
677
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:25,332
living in a fantasy world
of power and prestige.
678
00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:28,460
It's only a matter of time
before he makes a mistake.
679
00:37:29,901 --> 00:37:30,676
Jim?
680
00:37:30,677 --> 00:37:33,437
Well, I would like to say I believe
what Mr. Jane is saying,
681
00:37:33,438 --> 00:37:35,275
but I can't disagree more.
682
00:37:36,072 --> 00:37:39,369
I mean, this man is
smart, he is rational,
683
00:37:39,370 --> 00:37:40,910
- he's brilliant, in fact.
- Hmm.
684
00:37:41,768 --> 00:37:44,506
I-I respect your
skills as a journalist
685
00:37:44,507 --> 00:37:47,021
and as a blogger, James, but
I do this for a living,
686
00:37:47,022 --> 00:37:49,813
and I don't think you know or
understand this man at all.
687
00:37:49,814 --> 00:37:51,951
Well, that's absurd!
I mean, that's just...
688
00:37:53,098 --> 00:37:56,962
That's... your opinion,
and I respect that.
689
00:37:57,968 --> 00:37:58,853
But, Patrick, I mean,
690
00:37:58,854 --> 00:38:01,035
I think you really should
consider the plain facts.
691
00:38:01,036 --> 00:38:02,489
James, hold that thought.
692
00:38:02,490 --> 00:38:03,802
Let-- if I could just
respond here for a moment. I--
693
00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:06,216
And you'll have that
chance when we come back
694
00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:09,075
with more on the search for
the San Joaquin killer.
695
00:38:09,785 --> 00:38:11,944
We're clear.
30 seconds, everyone.
696
00:38:11,945 --> 00:38:13,514
Great stuff, guys.
697
00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:29,434
I know what you're doing.
698
00:38:31,973 --> 00:38:33,156
You think I'm stupid?
699
00:38:33,747 --> 00:38:34,600
Yes.
700
00:38:35,812 --> 00:38:37,628
You're not going to
ruin this for me.
701
00:38:40,457 --> 00:38:42,399
When we come back,
Jim, you're up.
702
00:38:43,171 --> 00:38:44,346
Ten seconds.
703
00:38:47,435 --> 00:38:49,170
In five, four,
704
00:38:49,406 --> 00:38:50,816
three, two...
705
00:38:51,186 --> 00:38:52,682
James Panzer may be the man
706
00:38:52,683 --> 00:38:55,094
who knows the San
Joaquin killer best.
707
00:38:55,255 --> 00:38:58,152
Tell us, Jim, will
he kill again?
708
00:38:58,192 --> 00:39:00,191
Well, Karen, I
hate to say this,
709
00:39:00,192 --> 00:39:03,443
but, yes, I-I think this
man will strike again,
710
00:39:03,444 --> 00:39:06,817
and I think that there will
be many, many more victims.
711
00:39:07,304 --> 00:39:08,748
A dark prediction.
712
00:39:08,991 --> 00:39:10,582
Uh, what makes you think that?
713
00:39:10,917 --> 00:39:14,766
Well, he is growing more bold
and more confident every day...
714
00:39:14,767 --> 00:39:17,418
more sure of his abilities
and his greatness.
715
00:39:17,419 --> 00:39:18,494
And why shouldn't he be?
716
00:39:18,495 --> 00:39:21,314
He's been able to evade
detection so easily,
717
00:39:21,315 --> 00:39:23,374
he is too good to be caught.
718
00:39:25,939 --> 00:39:27,029
Patrick, thoughts?
719
00:39:33,531 --> 00:39:34,445
Patrick?
720
00:39:36,337 --> 00:39:39,155
It's funny. Red John thought
exactly the same thing.
721
00:39:40,057 --> 00:39:42,583
Somehow I don't think
the San Joaquin killer
722
00:39:42,584 --> 00:39:45,548
will be quite as easy
to kill as Red John.
723
00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:46,967
You're very much mistaken.
724
00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:50,458
Red John was an accomplished
killer, no doubt,
725
00:39:50,459 --> 00:39:53,402
and I applaud you for
ridding us of him.
726
00:39:53,459 --> 00:39:56,958
But there is no comparison
to the San Joaquin killer.
727
00:39:57,363 --> 00:39:59,633
Red John was a
common sociopath--
728
00:39:59,786 --> 00:40:02,449
lazy, sloppy, delusional.
729
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:04,597
You really have no idea
what you're saying.
730
00:40:04,611 --> 00:40:05,221
Red John--
731
00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:06,461
Red John is dead.
732
00:40:08,070 --> 00:40:09,338
And the fact that
he allowed himself
733
00:40:09,339 --> 00:40:12,065
to be caught and killed by
you just proves my point.
734
00:40:14,768 --> 00:40:18,437
Compared to SJK,
Red John was nothing.
735
00:40:18,915 --> 00:40:21,982
An amateur... already forgotten.
736
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,238
You, uh...
737
00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:37,342
you were very good out there.
738
00:40:38,673 --> 00:40:40,906
Well... thank you.
739
00:40:51,111 --> 00:40:52,195
I was good.
740
00:41:03,816 --> 00:41:04,606
Hello?
741
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:09,431
Where?
742
00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:35,402
What's happened?
743
00:41:36,018 --> 00:41:38,366
Panzer. See for yourself.
744
00:42:05,492 --> 00:42:08,430
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