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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,120 SOME SCENES CONTAIN STROBE EFFECTS THAT MAY AFFECT LIGHT-SENSITIVE VIEWERS. 2 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,160 If you look at the lyrics, they're about alternative facts, 3 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,360 people who hawk their opinions as facts. 4 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,080 That has to be the song's climax... 5 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,720 You know? 6 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,000 What if in the end we... 7 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 take the snare... 8 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,800 The snare and... 9 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,720 That's it. - Yeah. 10 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,240 What would you do? 11 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,840 From a drummer's point of view? - First, take a break. 12 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Some doom part. 13 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,600 It's a lot, right? But it is playable, right? 14 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,160 I think it should be playable with a bit of practice. 15 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,760 It's fast and tears shit up, but hey, you're KREATOR. 16 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:40,640 That was good. - It was super. 17 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Dude... 18 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Just plain good. 19 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,440 We played well. Not me, but the rest of you. 20 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,960 I mean, I didn't suck, I was kind of average. 21 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,720 I made a few mistakes I don't usually make. - Me, too. 22 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Kind of... 23 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,800 But, you know... 24 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Let's call it a day and go home. 25 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Where do I put my shoes? 26 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,280 Leave them here. I'll text Stoney we left them here. 27 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,640 This is him asleep. 28 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Bobbing along. It must be the bus. 29 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,400 He thinks he's screwing. 30 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,160 There he is. 31 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,280 There. - Shit for brains. 32 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,440 So there is this footage. And now I'm up. 33 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Dude! 34 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 I've been dry for over 20 years. 35 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,640 This is the first time I've seen myself drunk again. 36 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,520 A cut! - Cut! 37 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Come on! 38 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Things are most volatile here in Europe: 39 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,400 KREATOR have been on tour for six weeks. I myself am in a perilous position 40 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 aboard the tour bus after six weeks on the road. 41 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,960 The last gig was kind of loose, back in... 42 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Heilbronn. - In Heilbronn. 43 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,720 As if we'd be quieter for that shit. 44 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,400 It's amazing I'm still alive. 45 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Looking back at this. 46 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Parts of it are terrible, but doesn't matter. 47 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Mille stripped to the waist. He won't release this. 48 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,720 He won't. 49 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,960 We played super-disciplined concerts. 50 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,200 But the parties afterwards were like, whoa. 51 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,720 We never partied again like we did back then. 52 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,560 We started out as teenagers, 53 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,320 then we were in our early 20s, and we recorded six albums 54 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,120 over seven years, which is a lot. I thought so. And still do. 55 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,000 For us troubled youths, this former mine facility, Zeche Carl, 56 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,280 is the place that prevents us from becoming criminals. 57 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,080 That's exactly right, isn't it? 58 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,080 We don't want to advertise for Zeche Carl. Too many people will come here. 59 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Rehearsing here feels like doing a mining shift. 60 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Exactly. 61 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,440 What else? 62 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Zeche Carl is where coal mining took place. 63 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,920 After that was discontinued, 64 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,800 they discussed what to do with the premises. 65 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:40,000 They wanted to tear it down. Now we've been practicing here since 1987 or so. 66 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 We've never left the space. 67 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,520 This is my Batman suit for practice. When I put it on, I'm transformed. 68 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Bruce Wayne becomes Batman. Jürgen Reil becomes Ventor. 69 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,520 I got my first holy pants from Stoney. From then on, I always wore them to gigs. 70 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,360 You could call them my lucky pants. I have washed them, though. 71 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,080 If they're not there, something goes wrong. The sacrosanct needs to be safeguarded. 72 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:22,440 I have to pass from my normal life into this world. 73 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,360 They help me do that. 74 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,240 My transformation doesn't have to be apparent to the public. 75 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,240 But it needs to convince me. 76 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,360 There was no such thing. I invented it. Necessity forced my hand. 77 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Because I just couldn't drum away the way it had to be. 78 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,800 So I invented that and it became a trademark. Now it's... 79 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,640 a given. 80 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Seventeen years old, hair like gold. 81 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,640 What a sweet kid. - Yeah. 82 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,800 I still look that way now after I shave. 83 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Where did you get the pants? 84 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,800 The leopard print pants? 85 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Mille had them in green. - I was a snow leopard. 86 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,960 Snow leopard. Right. 87 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,280 My beloved bullet belt. - I mean, OK. 88 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,680 You're not here, huh? It's too early. - Welcome to "Photo Chat" with Peppi and Stoney. 89 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,840 This is a shot where Mille doesn't even know he was in it. 90 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,680 Look. That's Mille. 91 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,040 Nah. - Sure is. 92 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Look at that. - Yeah. And that's me, look. 93 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Can I get some rosé? The alcohol-free one? 94 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,680 I've got a vegan dish for you tonight. 95 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,400 With the chef's compliments. 96 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Is that a carrot? - It is, yes. 97 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,000 We're serving the carrot with quinoa and carrot tartare 98 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,880 alongside tomato-celeriac soup. 99 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Enjoy. - Thanks. 100 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,120 It's like with that prankster comedian, Hape Kerkeling: 101 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:42,920 They're checking our reaction to being served two carrots. 102 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,720 Oh, delicious, wow. - Great. 103 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,840 You've never considered going vegetarian, have you? 104 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,960 I'm vegan. - You are? 105 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,560 For real? - Since 2008. 106 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Did you know? - Yeah. 107 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,280 I see. Vegan since 2008. 108 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,440 I mean, I used to be... 109 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:09,560 In the late 80s or early 90s, I went vegetarian, but there were no vegetarians then. 110 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,760 And back in 2008, when I began, it was hard to be vegan. 111 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,040 It doesn't bother me if people eat meat. - No? 112 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,600 It's up to them. 113 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,760 We've actually known each other since kindergarten. 114 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,000 You have to see it as a microcosm. We were all in the district of Altenessen, 115 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,680 hanging out the way kids did in the 80s. 116 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 We were music fans and wanted to have a band. 117 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,440 So out of a certain boredom, we formed the band. 118 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 My father said to me from the start: 119 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,880 If you're smart, you won't go down in the mine. 120 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,440 It's the worst thing you can do, dangerous and awful, do something else. 121 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:19,120 Back at my parents' house, there was always music playing. 122 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,880 It was lots of... Italian stuff, 123 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,520 like Adriano Celentano. 124 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Basically, popular music of the 70s. 125 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,200 My father was mad about it, collected it like a nerd. 126 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:42,320 So, as a child, I guess I got a sense of how music is important. 127 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Back home, the radio played in the kitchen. My father listened to military marches. 128 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,960 Then I got my recorder and had to trill off a tune or two. 129 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,120 But music was kind of 130 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,360 not so interesting until 131 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,360 I started listening to music like Kiss. 132 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,800 They were my first love, musically speaking: 133 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Kiss. My first concert, too. 134 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,120 I think it was back in 1980 or so. 135 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 My cousin joined me to the concert in Düsseldorf, 136 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,440 because I wasn't allowed to go alone as I was still too young. 137 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 I'd heard from older friends and my parents 138 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,880 that rockers would be there and it'd be dangerous. 139 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,200 One might get beaten up. 140 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,880 But it was the contrary. It was like a community from the start. It was like... 141 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,840 a dream world. 142 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,040 He came back a changed person. 143 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,920 It was great. 144 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Then one day, Mille and I said, Come on, let's be like Kiss. 145 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,040 So we had a band, but couldn't play. We had no proper instruments. 146 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:00,120 There was a clearance sale at the music shop in the Altenessen mall. 147 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,040 So suddenly, 148 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 maybe five teenagers bought guitars, 149 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,240 all wanting to play in this new band 150 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,440 that Ventor and I had started, which today is still KREATOR. 151 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Or its primeval soup, you know. 152 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,840 So we started rehearsing. 153 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,280 There were seven of us. By the next rehearsal, it was just five. 154 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,040 Finally, it boiled down to... 155 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,000 three guys who took it seriously: Rob Fioretti, Ventor and me. 156 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,360 So we thought, fine, 157 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,360 I'll be the singer, I'm tall. 158 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,880 I can be the frontman and play the fool. 159 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,760 But we couldn't find anyone who could or would drum. 160 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,880 By combining pillows of various sizes on my bed, 161 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 all of which gave off different sounds, 162 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,520 I created my imaginary kit and started drumming away. 163 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,000 And I still had money in the bank from my confirmation. 164 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,640 So, we decided: Alright, you gotta... 165 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 You're the drummer and can buy the kit. 166 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,000 So we all went to my parents and told them: 167 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,920 Jürgen isn't buying a scooter with the money. We want to buy a drum set. 168 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,520 On the day Ventor first set up that drum kit, 169 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,280 it was his second time at a drum kit at all. 170 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,560 And he began to teach himself then and there. 171 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,200 He listened to records by Judas Priest. 172 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,360 There was one called British Steel where the drum beat was incredibly simple. 173 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,560 So we basically played that through a hundred times. 174 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,800 I can play the whole record backwards by now. 175 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,400 So I'd like to present KREATOR's record that's out on Noise Records. 176 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,280 It's called "Endless Pain," like their first track. 177 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,880 Right? That's how I understood it. 178 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 If you could close in on this. 179 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Great. 180 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,680 And how old are you all? - Well, 181 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Ventor is 19. The rest of us are 18. 182 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Pretty young, huh? 183 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,000 And you're from Essen? - Yeah, the best city. 184 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,360 When it comes to heavy metal. 185 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:50,240 If I'm back in Altenessen, I'm mostly visiting my parents or practicing. 186 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,880 I don't live there anymore. I live here in the south. But the north is great, too. 187 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Altenessen has the Rhine-Herne Canal. Swimming there is actually illegal. 188 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,400 It's more for kids. 189 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Back there is Zweigert Bridge on Altenessen Road. 190 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,120 Where we grew up. 191 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,040 This was our public pool. 192 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,640 Free admission. 193 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,280 It's just too hot. 194 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,120 We gotta swim. Everything else is nonsense. 195 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,920 The more demons, the better. 196 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,400 We need even more. 197 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,120 A famous interview was held here. 198 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,080 The guy from Rock Hard said to Sami, 199 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,800 "Sami, you've lived for a long while in the Ruhr area. 200 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,360 Say something in the local dialect." 201 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,160 So Sami says, "Itchin' for a fight, are we?" 202 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,120 You old scallywag. 203 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,600 The backdrop for "Pleasure to Kill" falls between George and the drum kit. 204 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Is that possible? - We'll have to run it a couple times. 205 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,160 Ventor! 206 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:56,200 If it goes well, there's no rain and no glitches, I'll be satisfied, but you never know. 207 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,080 The occasion is playing with the other bands: 208 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,280 Destruction, Sodom and Tankard, who with us make up the Big Teutonic 4. 209 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 They formed around the same time as us. 210 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,840 We looked for a date we could all make, so we could play together. 211 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:13,840 And it finally worked out. 212 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:20,520 If I remember correctly, the first time we all played together was 1986 in Pforzheim. 213 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,240 At the Kupferdächle. 214 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Though of course KREATOR took a different direction. 215 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,480 That is to say, right to the top. 216 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,040 They naturally play a lot more often, 217 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:41,160 while we decided not to live exclusively from this. 218 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,000 So we kind of went different ways, but our paths kept crossing. 219 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,160 So it's all the better that this is happening today: 220 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920 "Klash of the Ruhrpott," "The Big Teutonic 4." 221 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,240 And it's not raining, there's no storm, so it won't be canceled for that... 222 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,760 It's four bands and sunshine. 223 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,920 They were kind of shy and concentrated. 224 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Not that Ruhr thing: "Let's drink, guys!" 225 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,360 More like: Mille knows what he wants. 226 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,520 Sodom were the party animals. 227 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,360 KREATOR were more focused on their music. 228 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760 That was back when they were called Tormentor. 229 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 So we later played together. 230 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,280 And KREATOR had begun to smoke a little dope. 231 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,960 So we did the same. They basically taught us to smoke weed. 232 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,480 The Sodom-KREATOR Ruhr friendship isn't as easy as you'd think. 233 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 They're like neighbors. 234 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,160 I'm from the south, so I'm like, Hey, you're all buddies. 235 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,920 A joint concert should be a cinch. But somehow it isn't. 236 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,960 So Destruction is ready at any given moment. 237 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,440 If Mille and Tom can agree, there'll be more of these shows. 238 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,480 I've known Mille since... '83, yeah. 239 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,040 They were Tormentor then. 240 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Mille was in Altenessen, where Peppi's father had an old shack. 241 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,080 We met to drink there. 242 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,840 But it was back then, '83 or '84, when we all began. 243 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,160 We're friends, but here we say "buddy." 244 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,760 A buddy is a good friend, but we're not that. 245 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,680 I'm from Syria's capital, Damascus. 246 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,520 I love KREATOR. 247 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,840 It was always a lifestyle. Metal isn't a sound, it's a way of life. 248 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,480 It means being critical and shouting it out if something doesn't suit you. 249 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,680 It's about showing you're here, showing opposition, 250 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,640 and that's particularly important nowadays. 251 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,520 To me, KREATOR is the best German 252 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:23,840 thrash metal band. After almost 40 years, they're still reinventing themselves, 253 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,200 never diminishing in quality or aggression. 254 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,840 A total punch in the face. 255 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,960 Awesome. 256 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,720 They took the thrash metal from back then and modernized it, in my opinion. 257 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,000 They worked with melodies, yet it's still real thrash like back then. 258 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,680 And then I go like: 259 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Dear guests, we're obliged to cancel the show due to bad weather. 260 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,320 We are very sorry. 261 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,040 We ourselves are... 262 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Say it again in English, please. 263 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Come back! 264 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,440 This sucks, 265 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,120 but there's nothing we can do. We've been told to stop. 266 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Thanks. 267 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,240 Thanks for everything. 268 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,800 I need to kill someone. Find me someone. 269 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Boggi! 270 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Howdy. - Just imagine. 271 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840 You're looking good. - You, too. 272 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,920 How long's it been, 20 years? - Search me. Ages. 273 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,160 At least. 274 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Oh, man. 275 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Hello, how are you? 276 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Coffee... 277 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,080 What's wrong with it? 278 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440 Make sure it's locked in. - We try making coffee for once... 279 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,080 The last time we met was at my place. You were three or four and had drumsticks. 280 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,040 It won't work. - Something else? Here. Done. 281 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,920 That's right. Good old beer. 282 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880 I wasn't always proud of you. You were really nuts. 283 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,880 I put together a festival at the Westfalenhalle, and you were so confident on that huge stage. 284 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080 We just did it. Just did it. 285 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,920 In those early days, you weren't top musicians or anything. 286 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,600 You remember. You know how you've grown technically and so on. 287 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640 But from the very start, you said, "We're stars, that's it." 288 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,800 How is it? 289 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,760 OK. And you? 290 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,480 I wouldn't say there's a death wish in metal culture, 291 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,680 but rather that it's a confrontation with the complexity of human existence, 292 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,840 where the only certainty is death. 293 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,160 This is my first time in the catacombs. I'm a big fan of horror. 294 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:30,280 But finding yourself in such a place is really something else. 295 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,600 I mean, each of these heads has its own history. 296 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,400 These are real people. 297 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840 I'd like to return to the living now. 298 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,880 I was an altar boy, and I found the church a pretty weird joint. 299 00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:00,080 So we got ourselves these books, ones we heard satanists read. 300 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,160 And we wanted... 301 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,040 Being 13 or 14, we wanted to celebrate a satanic ritual. 302 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,720 But we couldn't get it together. 303 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,400 Satan didn't show up at the ritual. 304 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,000 Georgie, if you'd move over a bit. 305 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,720 There. There it is. 306 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Come around. 307 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520 That's the fan blowing air in. 308 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,160 This is all the places he's been. Janni made an effort 309 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:43,120 and kept a list of all the places where he has hung out. 310 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,560 The backdrop is the record cover. So you could say it's two demons 311 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960 extending over dimensions. Demon dimensions! 312 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,080 I sent them a pic of my hands. "What should the hands look like?" Like this, I said. 313 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560 And he fits in a case, my permanent companion. 314 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040 I'm censoring myself. 315 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,880 Nice. 316 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,200 Are you going to eat? We'll join you later. Or I will. 317 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,360 I've known Mille since 1990 or the early 90s. 318 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,240 This is the prototype from the Cave Toys company, 319 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,800 of which I'm one of three owners. 320 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,040 And this is finally one of the beautiful... 321 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,560 It won't be plastic, since we're environmentally conscious. 322 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,760 I have this great comic and metal affinity. 323 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,840 Of all those bands back then from the Ruhr, 324 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,320 KREATOR was maybe the most aggressive. 325 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,680 Aggression with real perfection. 326 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,240 Maybe the only band from back then taking a political stance against the far right. 327 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Back then, I'd never seen a metal band do that. Only punk bands. 328 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,680 So I saw that Mille is very close to punk. 329 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000 My first time coming into contact with KREATOR 330 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,240 was back in the final days of East Germany. 331 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,880 So, finally, maybe in early '93, 332 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,520 I managed to persuade my father to take me to a KREATOR concert. 333 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,960 In Gera, one of the biggest cities in Thuringia, 334 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,000 it's pretty grim, but back then was all the more so. 335 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,720 A beautiful city with a number of ugly people living there: 336 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,560 Nazis and so on. 337 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,440 You stop with your father to buy gas and there's a bunch of fascists hanging about. 338 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200 You leave to insults. 339 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,200 Then KREATOR come on stage with anti-Nazi shirts. 340 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,840 As a statement precisely where it had to be. 341 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,320 Where not everyone was just applauding. 342 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,720 To me, that was really... 343 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,160 Yeah, it was a summons, 344 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640 or maybe even a sign: 345 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,480 You and your opinion belong in the metal scene. 346 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,360 As an antifascist, 347 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,120 you're within your rights and we're on your side. 348 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,080 Back then, imagine, I was 15 or 16, this spoke to me. 349 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,760 What bothers me is 350 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,240 the atmosphere in this country. I can partly understand the frustration, 351 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,040 but I don't understand why people vote for inhuman right-wing parties. 352 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,120 I don't get it. 353 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,680 Here we are. - Finally, it has come to pass. 354 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,200 The right-wing stuff has always been there, but now you can see in Germany and abroad 355 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,320 that it's become presentable again. 356 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,240 Back then, they spread hate in a bar backroom, 357 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,760 now they do it publicly and increasingly shamelessly. 358 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,760 So you have to stand up to them. That's all I have to say about that. 359 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,440 Maik does things like exploding swastikas on stage. 360 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,440 I've always loved that. 361 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,360 Maik and Heaven Shall Burn are a great band. 362 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,400 Everything they represent. 363 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,840 "To each his own?" - And legible from the grounds. 364 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,200 Why "to each his own?" - Well, it's cynicism. 365 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,000 Like "Arbeit macht frei," work sets you free. - Right. 366 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080 The cynicism of the SS. 367 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:06,040 Every April 11, I try to be here, the day the concentration camp was liberated. 368 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,960 This year was insane. 369 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,600 Mr. Wagner spoke about the elections in Thuringia 100 years ago. 370 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,800 There were, I don't know, 1,000 to 2,000 people here. 371 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,520 You had the feeling he was standing there alone with the CDU's Voigt, 372 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,240 telling him how a bourgeois party once worked with Nazis. 373 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,280 And Voigt voted alongside the AfD on laws in the Thuringian state parliament. 374 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,640 Voigt did? - Yes. 375 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,280 It was really pretty hardcore. 376 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,400 This is the shot-to-the-back-of-the-neck wing. - Boy. 377 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,880 The "examination room." 378 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,640 They were shot in the neck while their height was measured. 379 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,080 Who could come up with such stuff? 380 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,240 They made such a fuss trying to make them think they were only being "examined." 381 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,200 That makes it more perfidious. 382 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,520 Compared to the rest of Europe, 383 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:28,280 Germany kept its own right-wing populism at bay 10 to 20 years longer. 384 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:34,520 Now Germany's saying, "It's not so bad, just look at France and Holland." 385 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,440 At these memorials, when you see the last live witnesses to these events 386 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,400 before they vanish into the mist of history, 387 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,880 they look over their shoulders and see the same shit rolling in. 388 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,280 They see it returning as they depart. 389 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,680 That noise barrier wasn't there back then, right? 390 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,800 Nope. It was all different then. There were those red bricks. 391 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,440 Emscher School! 392 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,760 Here. Classroom 1A. Scene of our first concert. 393 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040 But it's changed. - We came in the front. 394 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,240 Up there. - But there was a door? 395 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,880 Yeah, but the stage was here. 396 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,840 Madness. 397 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,720 Kenneth did the light show back there by playing with the switches. 398 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,640 "Heavy Metal For Peace" was on the wall. 399 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,400 We tore down the "For Peace" bit. - "For Peace" was torn down? 400 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,920 '83. 401 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,960 Look at these kids. 402 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,080 And that was here. - Right. 403 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,800 The Savior stood there. - Yeah. 404 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,920 Miland is also known as the Savior and made prophecies on tour: 405 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,280 "Today I prophesy that..." 406 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,760 Little rib! 407 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,200 He's lost for words. 408 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,200 He likes to call himself the Messiah, also known as the Savior. 409 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,720 Give us a prediction. 410 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640 A prophecy! - Something simple. 411 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:12,720 Come on, Messiah. - Give us a prediction. A standard one. A message. 412 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,320 We were part of the tape-trading scene, 413 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,600 the people who sent each other tapes. 414 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,000 We made the first in our rehearsal room using a cassette recorder. 415 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,400 We recorded our second tape on a four-track in a "studio." 416 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,720 Stoney thought, "If I'm sending them to people, why not send them to labels, too?" 417 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,320 So, Noise Records came and said, "Yeah, let's make a record with those kids." 418 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,000 Stoney came and said, "Do you want a record deal?" 419 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,720 We were like, "Nah, forget it." He said, "Too late, I've got one, you only need to sign." 420 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,560 Well, "Management." - It was management back then. 421 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,960 It was management. 422 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000 KREATOR, C/O Andreas Stein. 423 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,120 We didn't plan anything. It all just came about. 424 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,080 My mother signed the deal. 425 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,320 It was fine, 426 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,160 because then I could make a record. 427 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,680 For "Endless Pain," we were supposed to record for ten days and mix for four. 428 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,320 But after ten days, the producer Horst Müller said, "Hey," 429 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,760 "You can go home now if you want. Only don't tell the label." 430 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,360 I was like, "Is this good or bad? Were we that great or...?" 431 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,920 I didn't get it. I was still too young. 432 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,760 The record company let us know that the record was selling well, 433 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,960 and that we should make a second one. 434 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,600 Anyone wanting to book the band called the record company. 435 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,920 Because they weren't even contactable by phone. 436 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,560 Through parents, maybe, but they didn't have apartments or cars. 437 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,720 So it all fell to me. I had to make sure they got to festivals and the rest of it. 438 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,040 It was at such an early stage 439 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,360 that the band was being taken away from its regular life, 440 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,560 and suddenly things took off. They were playing to 500 or 800 people. 441 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,880 And they absolutely crushed it. It was... 442 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,840 amazing to watch. 443 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,560 We weren't megalomaniacs, but we also weren't restrained. 444 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,520 We did all the stupid stuff. 445 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,440 We had a major deal, were on Epic Records. 446 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,440 We made big budget videos, were invited on MTV and so on. 447 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,440 So we had... 448 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,040 a time where we were relatively... 449 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,640 wild. 450 00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:41,560 What the hell? You think it's cool filming me, asshole? 451 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960 Stupid old dirtbag? 452 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,600 My God, have a look at yourself! 453 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,400 Take that shit away. I'll knock you out. 454 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,200 I mean it. 455 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,280 This is what I have to say. 456 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,040 This is what I say. Everyone should take this. 457 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,800 This. Here. 458 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,360 Here. 459 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,520 To set you right, kids: LSD. 460 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,560 What's it like to be a psychopath? Please explain. 461 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,120 Is it hard being a psychopath? Do you train it? 462 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,600 You'd know, asshole. 463 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,160 Mille had just come off stage sweating like a madman. 464 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,160 So I held the camera in his face. It was all "fuck off" and so on. 465 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,800 So I kept filming him to bother him. 466 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,880 He wasn't really angry. No one was friendly, but we liked it that way. 467 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,440 Even Boggi's wife is addicted to Game Boy. 468 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,680 They weren't in awe of anything. They'd play a 100-seater club, 469 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,120 or open in the Westfalenhalle for Ozzy Osborne, say. 470 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,120 We were delighted when this Canadian metal band Voivod 471 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,080 liked our record "Pleasure to Kill." So they invited us 472 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,760 on a six-week American tour. 473 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,800 We thought, "Whoa, we're going to America." 474 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,880 So you're trying to keep it together for them. 475 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,160 You're like, "The boys have never flown. 476 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,560 They've never been anywhere." So you've got this crew, 477 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,640 and you say, "Stay with me. We need to get in line." 478 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,560 Immediately, they're all gone. One on the floor here, another one there. 479 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,000 "You have to stay at my side. They'll want to see your faces. Come here." 480 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,800 Like a mother sending her kids to school: "You got your lunchbox and stuff?" 481 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,440 Our first time in America, our first flight, our first everything. 482 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,600 But it's not like we were playing to stadium audiences. 483 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,040 I remember one show on that tour 484 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,320 where we arrived at the address and it was a pizzeria. 485 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,960 We were like, "Seriously? We're booked to play." 486 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,400 "But not now. We'll let you in later." 487 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,760 So, fine, we went out again and caused some mischief. 488 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,760 They pushed the tables and chairs aside. 489 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,840 There was a small stage in a corner and we played. 490 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,120 What a delicious meal! 491 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200 Dude, stop filming me! 492 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,200 Yummy! 493 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,880 It was fun. But it wasn't like, 494 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,240 "Now we've made it. We're really going places." 495 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,600 There was plenty of sobering stuff that would've proven the contrary. 496 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,720 The sound was bad, but on stage it sucked. 497 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,480 The sound check... - God, you're a complainer. 498 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,320 I don't normally need it if everything's fine, you know? 499 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,360 So what? - If you make one little shitty mistake... 500 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,320 So what? Then you say screw it, right? 501 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,600 No. - Why not? 502 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,480 Screw the mistake and you're done. 503 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,960 You were a fantastic audience! Thank you! Till next time! 504 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,800 Yes, sir! 505 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,720 As a kid, it was already kind of normal: I was in a tour bus at the age of five. 506 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160 It began really early. - Five or six. 507 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,880 That was my first time on the tour bus, and I just wanted to go home. 508 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:57,760 Seeing masses of people and knowing they were here for my papa. 509 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,000 And I knew then: This just isn't normal. 510 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,280 I found it bad as a child. Not knowing why he was away. 511 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,800 And for so long, months at a time. 512 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,240 You'd be starting first grade and he wasn't there. 513 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,880 That kind of thing. 514 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,360 Finally, you understood that was the way it had to be. 515 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,280 But it took a long time. It really did. 516 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,480 Loads of other people wanted to see Dad, too. - It was a blessing and a curse. 517 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,680 For me, too. It wasn't easy. 518 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,000 Jülle is one of those secret agents who took care of absolutely nothing. 519 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,640 He never opened letters or anything, you know? 520 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,240 And he got an army conscription order. 521 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,360 This was just before the US tour. 522 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,800 When he came back, he was past the due date. 523 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:04,360 So we had him get out in Amsterdam and I smuggled him back into Germany. 524 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,960 Then I went to a doctor I was on good terms with. 525 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,640 I asked him for help: 526 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,760 "I don't know what to do. He's meant to join the army, but I need him." 527 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,240 So the doctor says, "Does he take drugs?" 528 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,000 I say, "No, no." 529 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,840 "Course he takes drugs!" I say, "Well, a bit..." 530 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000 "He takes drugs. Lots of them!" 531 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,840 He says, "Listen, I'll write you a letter that he's a drug addict." 532 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,400 "He's to hand it in." 533 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,080 So Jülle shows up and hands the letter 534 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,440 to the doctor at the barracks in Plön. 535 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,040 He was back two days later. 536 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,640 Unfit for service. A dishonorable discharge, you might say. 537 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,720 ... that they were good. But they were shit. 538 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,400 I know, they played well. - But it was always the same. 539 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,960 Is this some... 540 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,280 A bar of chocolate. - Chocolate. 541 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,120 Chocolate. Here. The proof. 542 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,640 Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll is this thing. I wouldn't say... 543 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,320 I find the whole concept stupid. 544 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,080 You can only do that in your early 20s, 545 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,360 and then only for a while. 546 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,320 For two or three years or you wind up dead. 547 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,760 I lost a lot of friends to drugs. 548 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,200 I had this... 549 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,520 I know enough dead people to fill a party. 550 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,320 Guys lost to drugs in their mid-20s or early 30s. 551 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,360 They started taking heroin and died. Or drank themselves to death and so on. 552 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,080 Which is why it's so... 553 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,880 ... so unnecessary and superfluous. 554 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,520 Jeez! Listen up! Just to be clear: 555 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,000 Don't bother with that shit. We won't stick to it anyway, OK? 556 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,480 Mille's lyrics alone made them stick out. 557 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:14,000 The trend back then was all about skulls and the cult of Satan. 558 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,400 That was the thing in the thrash metal genre. 559 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,840 And Mille wasn't like that. He wrote very intelligent lyrics. 560 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,640 Even as a young guy. 561 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,040 In terms of their lyrics, they were ahead of their times. 562 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,320 Just look at what the world is like now. Nothing has improved since then. 563 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,960 It's grown more obvious since. 564 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,280 What the Savior was preaching about has grown more obvious. 565 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:46,600 That's why he's the Savior: His lyrics always had prophecies and... 566 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,440 "Coma of Souls" is one of my favorites. And that was back in the 90s. 567 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,440 Just look outside. People didn't even have cell phones then. 568 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:03,760 If that isn't a coma when you get on a subway or walk down a street... 569 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,160 You could have a knife in your head. 570 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,800 No one would notice. - Unless they film you. 571 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,880 Right, they'd film you. - While you collapse dying. 572 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,400 When I write a song, it has to be tailored to my person, or rather, 573 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,240 to my abilities. 574 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,000 A song always has to be such that I can perform it along with my guitar. 575 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,960 So I have to make sure 576 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,600 it comes from within, from my heart. 577 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,240 Yeah, Mille has certain standards for his lyrics. 578 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:38,640 I always find it inspiring how he creates stuff out of nothing 579 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,920 and can phrase it so the whole image is there. It's complete. 580 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:48,880 If I'd carried on, I guess I'd be there, too. But I quit writing lyrics. 581 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,120 I'm no longer a lyricist. 582 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,680 But who knows, maybe I'll write again. 583 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:02,120 Words like "Terror" and "Suicide Commando" always need to be in there. 584 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,280 It's not an aggro KREATOR record 585 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,880 if he doesn't repeatedly scream hysterically from the stage... 586 01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:15,880 People would want their money back, and he's aware of that. 587 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:21,600 I can't just take my samurai sword and slaughter my boss cause he's pissing me off. 588 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,840 I hope we're all on the same page about that. 589 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,760 But the basic sense of channeling that aggression 590 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,320 so that it leads to a hard song and guitar riff, 591 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,600 is what keeps art and an artist relevant. 592 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,920 And that Mille is still doing this, is what keeps the band kicking. 593 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,400 Just incredible. 594 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,480 It's cold here in your Japan. 595 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,280 You guys will be next. 596 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,600 It's too naked. - Too naked... 597 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,280 Shall we startle everyone? 598 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,080 For me, Sami is the musician with KREATOR 599 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:30,040 who brings along his own certain style, one I haven't heard in other guitarists. 600 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,120 A special tone. 601 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,760 So he always makes the songs prettier. 602 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:44,600 If I think up a melody and Sami plays it, it sounds different to how I'd have played it. 603 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,040 It's unique. 604 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,560 Sami is one of the most underrated guitarists in the whole metal scene. 605 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:55,600 He's never in any of the polls or rating lists or anything. 606 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,160 But he's an ultra fine guitarist. 607 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,640 I'd cut off all my fingers to have two of his. 608 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,000 I had this eye operation, I had this... 609 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,920 I had a detachment of the retina. 610 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,640 I was almost blind in one eye, and the doctor said: 611 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,400 You're still doing that head-banging. 612 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,280 I said, "Yes." 613 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,120 "Stop it or the retina will get detached again." 614 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,160 So I thought about not doing it anymore, 615 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:28,520 but once you're back on stage, after doing it for so long, it's a part of it. 616 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:27,280 Musically, Fred is a jukebox. He can play anything. 617 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,200 And he's very amiable. 618 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,520 He shouldn't really... He should be playing guitar, 619 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,760 but he's also a great bassist. 620 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,600 He's a great all-round musician. 621 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,480 So it's just the perfect match. 622 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,800 Thank you, Tokyo. 623 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,480 After-show showdown! 624 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,240 This is no use! 625 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,800 Ah, no! 626 01:23:58,360 --> 01:23:59,480 No, no, no! 627 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,120 Nope! 628 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,520 It stinks and there's no air. 629 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,960 Is he coming? He won't come in. - No? 630 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,040 Pointless activities will not be tolerated. 631 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,120 Simple as that. 632 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,520 It sucks... 633 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,240 I watch horror films to protect my wife. 634 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,360 Because she likes them, but gets scared. 635 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,280 Yep, more interesting out here than in there, huh? 636 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,360 Good. - Very good. 637 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,800 It was fun. - For real! 638 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:16,840 Hello. Good day. 639 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:31,520 Bye! 640 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,720 Come on, off we go at long last! 641 01:30:22,440 --> 01:30:23,760 Want some visitors? 642 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,120 Who's visiting? Yeah, I want visitors. 643 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,520 When are you playing tomorrow? 644 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,960 Will you be here after the concert? - We're in the same hotel. 645 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,600 Ah, right. Great. See you later. 646 01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,320 We love KREATOR. 647 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,080 The music is awesome, they're great people. 648 01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:16,440 Hello. - Howdy. 649 01:36:11,480 --> 01:36:15,080 It's like making music: creating something from nothing. 650 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,080 What are you doing in my bedroom? 651 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:12,880 Are you nuts? 652 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,400 Our first tour was in 1987. 653 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:21,080 Since then, we've toured every year. 654 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,880 We've never neglected it. The fans in Europe are very 655 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:34,040 attentive. Once they know you, you stay in their hearts. 656 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,800 But here in America, you're swiftly forgotten. 657 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,680 Meaning you have to play here all the time. 658 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:45,720 So it's more work, because you need to be more present than in Europe. 659 01:40:13,480 --> 01:40:15,000 They think we're talented. 660 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,520 They're calling us over. 661 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,760 Can you stop molesting the pig? 662 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,760 You'll find him at North Cemetery. 663 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,040 Hopefully, I'll still be doing this in ten years. 664 01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:25,280 I mean, the fans have accepted us for so long. 665 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,840 If you consider how many of them have grown older with us, 666 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:34,240 and are still with us. Their kids even come along to the concerts. 667 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,000 That's a real gift, that's great. 668 01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:41,400 So I don't know what else I could still want. 669 01:44:41,480 --> 01:44:42,560 It's just great. 670 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,800 You've got time. 671 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:52,600 Subtitle Copyright: Way Film GmbH Translation: T. Cooper, G. Haas, M. Way 55515

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