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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,677 --> 00:00:24,300 Okay, now, we're all warmed up. 2 00:00:24,403 --> 00:00:26,543 We're ready to party, okay? 3 00:00:26,647 --> 00:00:28,200 The greatest thing about partying 4 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:31,410 is that you don't have to go nowhere to party, 5 00:00:31,514 --> 00:00:33,999 and nowhere's a cool place to be 6 00:00:34,103 --> 00:00:35,897 because you're already there. 7 00:00:36,001 --> 00:00:37,865 You're-you're going nowhere. 8 00:00:37,968 --> 00:00:40,350 This is going nowhere. 9 00:00:40,454 --> 00:00:43,905 Who you are depends on where you're going. 10 00:00:44,009 --> 00:00:46,425 So when you have to go somewhere, 11 00:00:46,529 --> 00:00:49,635 bring someone along that knows where they're going. 12 00:01:12,762 --> 00:01:15,385 There are certain things you can't do on television. 13 00:01:15,489 --> 00:01:18,871 And we made a list of them. We're gonna do them all. 14 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:24,394 Cheech & Chong started 15 00:01:24,498 --> 00:01:26,431 the whole hard-rock comedy craze. 16 00:01:26,534 --> 00:01:30,055 They've set an all-time record for comedy records sold. 17 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:31,608 And now it's time 18 00:01:31,712 --> 00:01:32,999 for America's favorite daytime fun show, 19 00:01:33,023 --> 00:01:35,267 Let's Make a Dope Deal. 20 00:01:35,371 --> 00:01:36,958 I got to ask you about the drugs, 21 00:01:37,062 --> 00:01:38,764 because I know both of you experimented very heavily. 22 00:01:38,788 --> 00:01:40,790 It's not hard to see what drugs do to you. 23 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:42,136 - You know... - Make you rich. 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,207 Well, you... yeah. 25 00:01:51,456 --> 00:01:52,974 You heard about 26 00:01:53,078 --> 00:01:54,469 the new death penalty in California? 27 00:01:54,493 --> 00:01:56,978 You have to stand between Cheech & Chong 28 00:01:57,082 --> 00:01:59,291 for half an hour. 29 00:02:00,465 --> 00:02:02,191 You have been busted. 30 00:02:02,294 --> 00:02:03,571 We got busted for obscenity. 31 00:02:03,675 --> 00:02:05,884 - You did? - Yeah. 32 00:02:07,713 --> 00:02:09,508 Cheech & Chong were just honored 33 00:02:09,612 --> 00:02:11,717 as the Comedy Team of the Decade. 34 00:02:11,821 --> 00:02:15,894 Their films have earned close to $200 million. 35 00:02:21,382 --> 00:02:23,384 How many movies do you have planned for the future? 36 00:02:23,488 --> 00:02:25,697 Seventeen. 37 00:02:33,394 --> 00:02:35,120 Are you a one-joke team? 38 00:02:35,224 --> 00:02:36,984 No, we're two-joke. 39 00:02:37,087 --> 00:02:38,606 Yeah. 40 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:42,921 Do you have any views on politics? 41 00:02:43,024 --> 00:02:44,716 We're not into sick humor, actually. 42 00:02:44,819 --> 00:02:46,476 No. 43 00:02:49,341 --> 00:02:50,963 Do you ever argue? 44 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:52,068 - No. No. - Yeah. Yeah. 45 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:53,414 - No, we just... - Yes. 46 00:02:53,518 --> 00:02:54,564 - We don't argue, you know? - We argue. 47 00:02:54,588 --> 00:02:55,830 - We discuss. - We argue. 48 00:02:55,934 --> 00:02:57,832 We don't argue. We discuss. 49 00:02:59,524 --> 00:03:02,112 Don't you feel that you're contributing 50 00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:04,253 to something illegal in this film? 51 00:03:04,356 --> 00:03:06,738 Uh, I certainly hope so. 52 00:03:06,841 --> 00:03:09,327 We like to contribute to the growth of America 53 00:03:09,430 --> 00:03:12,744 and the stunting of the growth of America. 54 00:03:17,749 --> 00:03:20,200 Cheech, how'd you guys get together? 55 00:03:20,303 --> 00:03:21,943 Hey, man, roll them bigger than this, man. 56 00:03:21,994 --> 00:03:23,168 It's all seeds, man. 57 00:03:23,272 --> 00:03:24,894 I-I think we got ripped off. 58 00:03:24,997 --> 00:03:27,345 - Uh, gentlemen? - Oh. 59 00:03:27,448 --> 00:03:29,692 Uh, well, we got together... 60 00:03:57,651 --> 00:04:00,723 Tommy, what is it about Cheech that you most admire? 61 00:04:00,826 --> 00:04:03,346 Cheech, he's very up to date. He's like a, 62 00:04:03,450 --> 00:04:05,452 a TV set I can tune into at any time 63 00:04:05,555 --> 00:04:07,212 and find out what's going on. 64 00:04:07,316 --> 00:04:08,662 He's like a wife that, thank God, 65 00:04:08,765 --> 00:04:11,320 - I don't have to go to bed with. - 66 00:04:11,423 --> 00:04:13,287 Okay, Cheech. 67 00:04:13,391 --> 00:04:15,427 What is it you most admire about Tommy? 68 00:04:15,531 --> 00:04:17,464 He always surprises me, you know. 69 00:04:17,567 --> 00:04:19,604 He always knows more than I think he knows. 70 00:04:19,707 --> 00:04:21,606 He has this real Gemini personality, 71 00:04:21,709 --> 00:04:24,402 so he's real right on the track and then he's off in the stars. 72 00:04:24,505 --> 00:04:26,611 It's fun to follow him both places. 73 00:04:26,714 --> 00:04:28,440 You never know what it's gonna be. 74 00:04:28,544 --> 00:04:30,477 "Oh, well, follow this train for a little while, 75 00:04:30,580 --> 00:04:32,202 see where it goes." 76 00:04:38,243 --> 00:04:40,383 Where in the desert, Tommy? 77 00:04:40,487 --> 00:04:43,559 I don't know, man. He just said "the desert." 78 00:04:43,662 --> 00:04:45,561 Well, the desert's a big place, man. 79 00:04:45,664 --> 00:04:48,736 Did he say any particular spot in the desert? 80 00:04:49,427 --> 00:04:50,876 Dave told me. 81 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:52,620 - Well, what did he told you? - He told me 82 00:04:52,671 --> 00:04:55,087 - "in the desert." - Not a name? Not a town? 83 00:04:55,191 --> 00:04:57,366 Not a place? Not anything? 84 00:04:57,469 --> 00:05:00,783 No, he said something about a joint. I remember that. 85 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:02,094 A joint? 86 00:05:04,027 --> 00:05:05,822 Well... 87 00:05:05,926 --> 00:05:08,480 Do you got a joint? 88 00:05:08,584 --> 00:05:10,310 Are you two what people think you are? 89 00:05:10,413 --> 00:05:11,690 - From... - Dopers? 90 00:05:11,794 --> 00:05:13,761 Well, that's not what I mean. 91 00:05:13,865 --> 00:05:15,970 We won't... we'll get into that later. 92 00:05:16,074 --> 00:05:18,732 But, I mean, people think you're two crazy, you know... 93 00:05:18,835 --> 00:05:20,285 - Uh... - But you're not. You... 94 00:05:20,389 --> 00:05:21,538 - No, no. - I saw you backstage. 95 00:05:21,562 --> 00:05:22,712 What are, what are you really like? 96 00:05:22,736 --> 00:05:23,978 We're very serious-minded. 97 00:05:24,082 --> 00:05:25,601 - Very serious? - Yes. 98 00:05:25,704 --> 00:05:27,223 It's quite an unlikely pairing 99 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:30,330 because Cheech, you are Mexican American, born in Watts? 100 00:05:30,433 --> 00:05:33,194 - Mm-hmm. - And you are Chinese Canadian, 101 00:05:33,298 --> 00:05:34,689 - raised in... - Well, half, half Chinese. 102 00:05:34,713 --> 00:05:37,233 How in the world did you ever get together? 103 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:38,614 It was a mix-up 104 00:05:38,717 --> 00:05:40,754 at the Green Card office. 105 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:46,000 Shit, I had a joint. What did I do with it? 106 00:05:46,967 --> 00:05:48,175 Come on, you must have 107 00:05:48,278 --> 00:05:50,453 old joints in the... in your pocket. 108 00:05:50,557 --> 00:05:52,155 Are you fucking with me? You've got a joint. 109 00:05:52,179 --> 00:05:54,259 - You always got weed, man. - I never have the joint. 110 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,528 I always smoke the weed that you have. 111 00:05:56,632 --> 00:05:58,737 That's how it works. 112 00:05:58,841 --> 00:06:00,152 So, no joint? 113 00:06:01,913 --> 00:06:05,226 I can't believe we're in the desert without any weed. 114 00:06:05,330 --> 00:06:06,918 Don't worry. Things will work out, man. 115 00:06:07,021 --> 00:06:08,575 They always do. 116 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:11,923 Something will happen. 117 00:06:12,026 --> 00:06:13,959 That's what I'm afraid of. 118 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:19,655 Are you satirizing 119 00:06:19,758 --> 00:06:21,070 - the drug culture? - Whatever. 120 00:06:21,173 --> 00:06:23,003 Well, if you're satirizing it, 121 00:06:23,106 --> 00:06:25,015 does that imply that you can see something's wrong with it? 122 00:06:25,039 --> 00:06:26,627 - All we do is-is generally... - Well... 123 00:06:26,731 --> 00:06:28,457 just portray it as it is, you know? 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,942 See, there's no set rules, because you never know. 125 00:06:31,045 --> 00:06:32,806 Like a lot of people say, "It was wrong 126 00:06:32,909 --> 00:06:34,646 "for this guy to go to jail, but yet he wrote 127 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:37,258 a great novel while he was in there." 128 00:06:37,362 --> 00:06:39,019 Because people's experiences, man, 129 00:06:39,122 --> 00:06:41,608 how can you say they're right or wrong, you know? 130 00:06:41,711 --> 00:06:43,644 People go through what they need to go through 131 00:06:43,748 --> 00:06:45,612 in order to be... in order to get some use 132 00:06:45,715 --> 00:06:47,337 of living on Earth. 133 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:49,305 So how can you make any judgment? 134 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:50,479 I can't. 135 00:06:50,582 --> 00:06:52,895 All we can do is, uh... 136 00:06:52,998 --> 00:06:56,105 is just be funny. 137 00:06:58,970 --> 00:07:01,421 My whole being, my success, 138 00:07:01,524 --> 00:07:06,218 my life, dates back to my earliest memories. 139 00:07:06,322 --> 00:07:10,637 One day, my brother and I were walking down a dirt road, 140 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:12,466 and a car pulled up. 141 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:14,917 It was a carload of missionaries. 142 00:07:15,020 --> 00:07:17,851 And they said, "Hey, you boys want to go to camp?" 143 00:07:17,954 --> 00:07:22,269 And I immediately, "Yeah, I do. What's camp?" 144 00:07:22,821 --> 00:07:25,065 It was a Bible camp, Christian Bible camp. 145 00:07:25,168 --> 00:07:28,689 First thing they did was they taught us how to pray, 146 00:07:28,793 --> 00:07:33,901 'cause if you learn how to pray, you pray for wisdom, 147 00:07:34,005 --> 00:07:37,180 'cause that's one thing that can be granted. 148 00:07:37,767 --> 00:07:40,494 My mother had TB, and so we all got checked out, 149 00:07:40,598 --> 00:07:43,255 and I had a little spot on my lung. 150 00:07:43,359 --> 00:07:45,706 I ended up in the hospital. 151 00:07:45,810 --> 00:07:48,675 I became an observer, 152 00:07:48,778 --> 00:07:53,300 because I couldn't participate, but I could watch and learn. 153 00:07:53,403 --> 00:07:54,681 How tough was it 154 00:07:54,784 --> 00:07:56,303 growing up in Canada? 155 00:07:56,406 --> 00:07:57,960 I never knew I lived in poverty 156 00:07:58,063 --> 00:08:01,170 until someone told me about it years later, you know, 157 00:08:01,273 --> 00:08:02,412 'cause when I was there, 158 00:08:02,516 --> 00:08:04,932 everybody was in the same boat, so... 159 00:08:05,036 --> 00:08:07,556 We lived in between the country and the city, 160 00:08:07,659 --> 00:08:10,041 and we had none of the conveniences of the city, 161 00:08:10,144 --> 00:08:13,113 but we had none of the luxuries of the country. 162 00:08:14,114 --> 00:08:16,150 My dad was Chinese. 163 00:08:16,254 --> 00:08:19,533 My mother, Scotch-Irish descent. 164 00:08:19,637 --> 00:08:23,088 The Chinese were considered not human. 165 00:08:23,192 --> 00:08:25,746 Interracial marriage was very dangerous. 166 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:28,438 You could go to jail. 167 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:31,545 Mom taught me early on, "You're different. 168 00:08:31,649 --> 00:08:34,859 "And by being different, people will notice you. 169 00:08:34,962 --> 00:08:38,518 So you better be your best." 170 00:08:40,278 --> 00:08:41,728 They had a little birthday party 171 00:08:41,831 --> 00:08:44,109 for this girl across the alley, 172 00:08:44,213 --> 00:08:47,457 and I was specifically not invited 173 00:08:47,561 --> 00:08:49,321 because I was half Chinese. 174 00:08:49,425 --> 00:08:52,911 But I could see the bonfire from my window in my bedroom. 175 00:08:53,015 --> 00:08:56,087 The kids gathered around, all my friends. 176 00:08:58,296 --> 00:08:59,677 It makes you sad, 177 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:03,301 but it also makes you... it gives you knowledge. 178 00:09:03,404 --> 00:09:05,406 You know? You go, "Oh." 179 00:09:05,510 --> 00:09:08,064 "Oh, that's what they think of me." 180 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,967 I'm digging this, man. I love the desert. 181 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:15,589 I love the desert, too. 182 00:09:15,693 --> 00:09:17,971 I just like to know where I'm going sometimes. 183 00:09:18,074 --> 00:09:21,940 And apparently, they have no weed in the desert. 184 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:25,357 You'll see. Weed will appear. 185 00:09:25,461 --> 00:09:28,257 Okay. 186 00:09:36,092 --> 00:09:37,646 The thing that I remember most 187 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:41,235 about South Central is that it was extremely violent. 188 00:09:41,339 --> 00:09:44,135 I saw three murders right in front of my eyes 189 00:09:44,238 --> 00:09:46,931 by the time I was seven. 190 00:09:48,311 --> 00:09:50,728 It was 99.9% Black. 191 00:09:50,831 --> 00:09:53,558 All my friends, everybody that I knew was Black, 192 00:09:53,662 --> 00:09:56,630 and I was one of the only Chicanos. 193 00:09:56,734 --> 00:09:59,737 Uh, there was a few Asians 194 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,049 and some lost white people. 195 00:10:02,153 --> 00:10:03,879 But that was it... it was all Black. 196 00:10:03,982 --> 00:10:06,260 So I thought that was normal, you know, "Okay." 197 00:10:06,364 --> 00:10:08,366 And I was just like one of them. 198 00:10:11,162 --> 00:10:13,405 My friend Junior lived right across the street 199 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:18,169 from the school, and his mama did Bobo Brazil's laundry. 200 00:10:19,929 --> 00:10:23,174 Bobo Brazil was a big wrestler of the time, and he had 201 00:10:23,277 --> 00:10:26,177 a white Cadillac convertible with zebra upholstery. 202 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,179 And he used to come and pick up his laundry, 203 00:10:28,282 --> 00:10:30,077 and he'd pull up in front of the school. 204 00:10:30,181 --> 00:10:33,218 And the whole school knew that Bobo Brazil was here. 205 00:10:33,322 --> 00:10:35,117 And then when he came out, 206 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:39,535 I saw the reaction that he caused among the kids. 207 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,848 He was on TV every Wednesday night 208 00:10:41,951 --> 00:10:44,229 wrestling Killer Kowalski and Mr. Moto 209 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:47,888 and Sándor Szabó and all these great wrestlers. 210 00:10:51,443 --> 00:10:53,860 Bobo Brazil! 211 00:10:53,963 --> 00:10:56,414 That was really show business for my neighborhood. 212 00:10:59,762 --> 00:11:03,386 We were a real typical middle-class family. 213 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:05,730 The mother who would stay home and take care of the kids 214 00:11:05,803 --> 00:11:07,218 and did all the housework 215 00:11:07,321 --> 00:11:09,392 and provide all the emotional comfort. 216 00:11:09,496 --> 00:11:11,912 And my dad was the worker and the stern, 217 00:11:12,016 --> 00:11:13,914 authoritarian father. 218 00:11:14,018 --> 00:11:15,813 A neighbor once said, "Oscar, 219 00:11:15,916 --> 00:11:17,791 "you're the most even-tempered man I've ever met. 220 00:11:17,815 --> 00:11:19,299 Always mad." 221 00:11:19,402 --> 00:11:22,440 And so, that kind of described my dad. 222 00:11:22,543 --> 00:11:24,822 He was a tough guy. 223 00:11:24,925 --> 00:11:29,136 LAPD, on the force for 30 years. 224 00:11:31,898 --> 00:11:33,416 It was a shit job, man. 225 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,249 You just saw the worst aspects of humanity every day. 226 00:11:38,352 --> 00:11:40,803 It affects how you interact with people 227 00:11:40,907 --> 00:11:42,563 and your view of people. 228 00:11:42,667 --> 00:11:45,428 So he kind of assumed that whenever he was asking me 229 00:11:45,532 --> 00:11:47,223 a question about, "Where were you? 230 00:11:47,327 --> 00:11:49,501 What are you doing? What did you do?" 231 00:11:49,605 --> 00:11:50,917 that I was lying to him. 232 00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:52,746 He was right most of the time. 233 00:11:52,850 --> 00:11:55,335 I just learned to be a better liar, I guess. 234 00:11:55,438 --> 00:11:58,303 That was my first role as an actor. 235 00:11:58,407 --> 00:12:00,374 If I could get by my dad with a story, 236 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:03,757 well, "That was a pretty good story. I-I told it well." 237 00:12:08,382 --> 00:12:10,453 You still won't grow your mustache back. 238 00:12:10,557 --> 00:12:14,837 You've made such an imprint with that character, 239 00:12:14,941 --> 00:12:17,081 and then to have you not doing that? 240 00:12:17,184 --> 00:12:21,775 You know, it-it-it's really hard to accept it. 241 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:24,847 So, your mustache is so, uh, important 242 00:12:24,951 --> 00:12:26,607 - for the Cheech character. - Yeah. 243 00:12:26,711 --> 00:12:29,852 That's your-your trademark, and you-you refuse to do it. 244 00:12:29,956 --> 00:12:31,440 I didn't want to wear a mustache 245 00:12:31,543 --> 00:12:32,959 because I was doing other roles. 246 00:12:33,062 --> 00:12:34,443 And also, it made me look older, 247 00:12:34,546 --> 00:12:35,938 -and I didn't want to look older. -Well, yeah. 248 00:12:35,962 --> 00:12:37,480 - Y-You're not Cheech. - Yeah. 249 00:12:37,584 --> 00:12:39,068 Of Cheech & Chong. 250 00:12:39,172 --> 00:12:41,036 - I'm Cheech of Cheech Marin. - Yeah, well, 251 00:12:41,139 --> 00:12:42,899 that's the difference. That's the difference. 252 00:12:42,934 --> 00:12:45,419 Nothing lasts forever, Tommy. 253 00:12:45,523 --> 00:12:47,801 You know? Nothing lasts forever. 254 00:12:52,116 --> 00:12:53,876 The youngsters, 255 00:12:53,980 --> 00:12:55,716 aged from 14 to 18, come from all walks of life. 256 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:57,777 All members of the Army Cadet Force 257 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,606 come once a year for a week under canvas 258 00:12:59,709 --> 00:13:01,021 with ex-Army officers. 259 00:13:01,125 --> 00:13:03,058 Army Cadets in Canada 260 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:05,508 was like a vacation for the poor. 261 00:13:05,612 --> 00:13:08,408 I learned how to shoot a rifle, 262 00:13:08,511 --> 00:13:11,618 and I learned how to smoke, and I learned how to drink. 263 00:13:11,721 --> 00:13:13,378 I learned how to play guitar. 264 00:13:15,691 --> 00:13:17,520 We would play all night, 265 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:22,215 go to bed, wake up and reach over and start playing again. 266 00:13:25,528 --> 00:13:30,740 I got turned on to Ornette Coleman and pot the same night. 267 00:13:31,327 --> 00:13:33,674 I would go down to the jazz club with my guitar 268 00:13:33,778 --> 00:13:35,987 because it got me in for free. 269 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:40,820 One night, this bass player gave me a joint. 270 00:13:40,923 --> 00:13:43,098 I smoked up my first toke 271 00:13:43,201 --> 00:13:46,515 and listened to Ornette Coleman play "The Lonely Woman." 272 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:53,418 It's the most beautiful turn-on in the world. 273 00:13:55,282 --> 00:13:58,216 The next day, I quit school immediately 274 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,874 because I knew in my heart 275 00:14:00,978 --> 00:14:04,636 all I wanted to do was play blues and smoke pot. 276 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:07,053 That's all I wanted to do. 277 00:14:10,056 --> 00:14:11,505 I think the goal 278 00:14:11,609 --> 00:14:13,991 in moving the family out of South Central 279 00:14:14,094 --> 00:14:15,534 to Granada Hills is that they wanted 280 00:14:15,613 --> 00:14:18,064 to move us to a safer place. 281 00:14:18,167 --> 00:14:20,825 The air was different and the sun was different 282 00:14:20,929 --> 00:14:23,483 and all the houses were brand-new, 283 00:14:23,586 --> 00:14:27,418 and it was like you just got transported to Oz. 284 00:14:29,282 --> 00:14:31,087 I discovered I was creative, like, right away. 285 00:14:31,111 --> 00:14:34,080 I remember in grade school, I was a singer. 286 00:14:34,183 --> 00:14:38,429 I had the ability to sing in tune at a very young age. 287 00:14:38,532 --> 00:14:41,846 I would make up harmonies in class, 288 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:43,203 and the teacher would look at me, 289 00:14:43,227 --> 00:14:44,469 "Well, how did you learn that?" 290 00:14:44,573 --> 00:14:46,989 "I-I didn't learn it. I just did it." 291 00:14:47,748 --> 00:14:50,337 The biggest adjustment is not seeing any Black people. 292 00:14:50,441 --> 00:14:52,305 I remember the first day of school, 293 00:14:52,408 --> 00:14:54,583 I went out to play at recess and I said, 294 00:14:54,686 --> 00:14:56,378 "Oh, tetherball. I know that." 295 00:14:56,481 --> 00:14:58,794 So I sat on the bench and waited for my turn. 296 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:00,796 These two kids walked towards me. 297 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,281 The one bigger kid pushes me off the bench, 298 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:05,697 and he goes, "Hey, blackie, get to the back." 299 00:15:05,801 --> 00:15:07,423 What? 300 00:15:07,527 --> 00:15:11,220 From South Central, I learned to get in the first punch. 301 00:15:11,324 --> 00:15:13,671 The kids were bigger in the Valley, 302 00:15:13,774 --> 00:15:16,156 so I learned to be funny. 303 00:15:20,574 --> 00:15:22,266 I experienced the racism 304 00:15:22,369 --> 00:15:24,889 in Granada Hills at the very, very beginning. 305 00:15:24,993 --> 00:15:26,373 And I got over that real quick 306 00:15:26,477 --> 00:15:28,893 because I shifted from public school 307 00:15:28,997 --> 00:15:30,308 to Catholic school. 308 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:31,965 And they didn't play that shit. 309 00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:33,629 They didn't play no blackie/whitey shit. 310 00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:36,073 They just played straight-up corporal punishment. 311 00:15:36,176 --> 00:15:38,454 You know, when you walk into class, there's a cross 312 00:15:38,558 --> 00:15:40,077 with a guy nailed on it, 313 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:42,907 uh, uh, so y-you get what the deal is. 314 00:15:46,635 --> 00:15:48,671 Every kid that goes to Catholic school 315 00:15:48,775 --> 00:15:51,088 is convinced that they want to be a priest or a nun 316 00:15:51,191 --> 00:15:52,641 at some point 317 00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:55,057 because they cram that into you every day. 318 00:15:55,161 --> 00:15:57,508 It's called a vocation. And eventually, 319 00:15:57,611 --> 00:15:59,786 if they repeat it enough, then you get a vocation. 320 00:15:59,889 --> 00:16:01,891 So I was going to be a priest, 321 00:16:01,995 --> 00:16:04,101 accepted to the junior seminary. 322 00:16:04,204 --> 00:16:06,206 And then I started going to parties, 323 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:07,690 and the girls liked me, 324 00:16:07,794 --> 00:16:09,934 especially the white girls named Debbie. 325 00:16:10,038 --> 00:16:11,660 I was exotic to them, 326 00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:14,249 and they were exotic to me. 327 00:16:14,352 --> 00:16:18,253 Then I realized no girls whatsoever in priesthood. 328 00:16:18,356 --> 00:16:19,806 I-I don't know about that one. 329 00:16:19,909 --> 00:16:22,119 ♪ Let's go, let's go, let's go. ♪ 330 00:16:27,848 --> 00:16:31,335 ♪ Well, do you wanna dance and hold my hand... ♪ 331 00:16:31,438 --> 00:16:32,853 I started a band, 332 00:16:32,957 --> 00:16:34,614 and we called ourselves The Shades, 333 00:16:34,717 --> 00:16:36,197 because we were all different colors. 334 00:16:36,236 --> 00:16:39,101 ♪ Do you wanna dance? 335 00:16:39,205 --> 00:16:40,792 Trying to fit into the white world, 336 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:42,518 I was an outsider. 337 00:16:43,312 --> 00:16:44,969 When I discovered Black culture, 338 00:16:45,073 --> 00:16:48,731 my life changed so beautifully. 339 00:16:48,835 --> 00:16:50,388 ♪ Hey! 340 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:54,737 I was accepted into the hippest culture 341 00:16:54,841 --> 00:16:56,429 on the planet, 342 00:16:56,532 --> 00:16:58,086 and fell in love with the music 343 00:16:58,189 --> 00:17:01,192 and this gorgeous 15-year-old, Maxine, 344 00:17:01,296 --> 00:17:03,263 at the same time. 345 00:17:03,367 --> 00:17:05,852 When I saw her, I said, "Whoa." 346 00:17:05,955 --> 00:17:08,234 When I brought Maxine home, 347 00:17:08,337 --> 00:17:10,926 my dad took me in the other room and says, 348 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:14,102 "Son, she's Black." 349 00:17:14,205 --> 00:17:17,105 I said, "Pop, you're Chinese." 350 00:17:23,387 --> 00:17:25,803 Maxine and I always had a bond. 351 00:17:25,906 --> 00:17:29,807 That's why, when Maxine was ready to get married, 352 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:31,326 we got married. 353 00:17:31,429 --> 00:17:34,812 Because Maxine really was wife material. 354 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:38,781 We moved to Vancouver, I found a house, 355 00:17:38,885 --> 00:17:41,060 and that's where I spent my time, 356 00:17:41,163 --> 00:17:44,270 raising kids and being happy. 357 00:17:46,341 --> 00:17:48,308 Oh, you know what? 358 00:17:48,412 --> 00:17:51,346 I think I dropped some gummies a couple of days ago. 359 00:17:51,449 --> 00:17:53,072 Where? 360 00:17:53,175 --> 00:17:54,866 It's in this seat over here. 361 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:56,730 Well, get down. Come on. 362 00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:03,806 The Shades broke up, 363 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,775 and the new group was called Little Daddy and the Bachelors, 364 00:18:06,878 --> 00:18:08,570 even though we were all married. 365 00:18:08,673 --> 00:18:10,019 It was perfect. 366 00:18:10,123 --> 00:18:11,573 You're sure you had 'em, huh? 367 00:18:11,676 --> 00:18:14,093 I had 'em, man, I had 'em. I know I had 'em. 368 00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:15,991 And so we were playing a gig, 369 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:18,821 and I was standing outside of the venue 370 00:18:18,925 --> 00:18:23,136 when this beautiful young blonde, Shelby, 371 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,793 comes walking up. 372 00:18:25,897 --> 00:18:28,176 She said, "Take us to the Harlem Nocturne." 373 00:18:28,279 --> 00:18:31,213 And I thought, "Oh, this snotty-nosed little bitch." 374 00:18:31,317 --> 00:18:34,389 Take... Get, get... Okay. 375 00:18:34,492 --> 00:18:37,288 So we drove to the Harlem Nocturne, 376 00:18:37,392 --> 00:18:39,256 and she gets out of the back seat, 377 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,775 and she gives me the nicest kiss. 378 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:44,847 I was like, "Whoa!" 379 00:18:44,951 --> 00:18:47,609 And then she turned and walked away into the club. 380 00:18:49,645 --> 00:18:51,130 - Hey, was that... - No! 381 00:18:51,233 --> 00:18:53,649 Got 'em. I knew they were here, man. 382 00:18:53,753 --> 00:18:55,582 What the hell? 383 00:18:59,103 --> 00:19:00,967 My Chinese friends built 384 00:19:01,070 --> 00:19:03,694 this club called The Shanghai Junk. 385 00:19:03,797 --> 00:19:06,628 They were on the verge of going under, 386 00:19:06,731 --> 00:19:08,664 so they offered the club to me and my brother 387 00:19:08,768 --> 00:19:11,150 to see if we could do anything with it. 388 00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:13,945 We changed it into a strip bar 389 00:19:14,049 --> 00:19:16,569 and started making the rent. 390 00:19:16,672 --> 00:19:19,261 Around that time, I found this incredible singer, 391 00:19:19,365 --> 00:19:20,469 Bobby Taylor. 392 00:19:20,573 --> 00:19:23,058 ♪ When I found you, dear 393 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,680 Bobby was very ambitious. 394 00:19:24,784 --> 00:19:26,475 ♪ I found something new, dear... ♪ 395 00:19:26,579 --> 00:19:29,996 We would play as many as five sets a night. 396 00:19:30,099 --> 00:19:34,103 The club started making money, and we started buying houses. 397 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:37,969 I ended up moving next door to Shelby. 398 00:19:38,073 --> 00:19:39,937 It was total coincidence. 399 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,389 Mind you, I was very happily married to Maxine. 400 00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,667 We had a beautiful family, 401 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:48,566 but I, um... 402 00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:50,465 discovered acid. 403 00:19:51,051 --> 00:19:55,884 And that was when I learned when you do acid with a lady, 404 00:19:55,987 --> 00:19:58,542 prepare to spend the rest of your life with her. 405 00:19:59,681 --> 00:20:02,062 I got the gummies. 406 00:20:03,374 --> 00:20:05,169 Well, open them up. 407 00:20:05,273 --> 00:20:07,378 Okay, I'll tell you what. 408 00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:10,347 I'll give you a gummy, you take half, 409 00:20:10,450 --> 00:20:12,590 and you give me the other half. 410 00:20:12,694 --> 00:20:13,936 - Okay? - Okay. 411 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,215 That way, I won't lead you down the wrong path. 412 00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:19,252 - Okay? Just take half. - Okay. Just take half. 413 00:20:20,978 --> 00:20:22,462 You took it all. 414 00:20:22,566 --> 00:20:24,326 No, I didn't. Here. 415 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:26,328 I don't want it after being in your mouth. 416 00:20:26,432 --> 00:20:28,710 Oh, you don't want it? Okay. 417 00:20:28,813 --> 00:20:30,712 I'll do my own half, 418 00:20:30,815 --> 00:20:32,714 and... 419 00:20:32,817 --> 00:20:34,440 two. 420 00:20:34,543 --> 00:20:36,580 - Good gummy. - Yeah? 421 00:20:36,683 --> 00:20:38,823 You know, these are loaded. 422 00:20:38,927 --> 00:20:40,549 I hope so. 423 00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:42,793 I've built up a resistance. 424 00:20:42,896 --> 00:20:45,589 So, what are we supposed to be looking for? 425 00:20:45,692 --> 00:20:47,901 Dave said to look for a sign. 426 00:20:48,005 --> 00:20:50,110 - A sign? - Yeah. 427 00:20:50,214 --> 00:20:51,940 What is the sign supposed to look like? 428 00:20:52,043 --> 00:20:55,115 Don't worry, you'll know it when you see it. 429 00:20:55,219 --> 00:20:56,600 Ah. 430 00:20:56,703 --> 00:20:59,292 - Look for a sign. - Okay. 431 00:21:00,742 --> 00:21:02,675 No sign here. 432 00:21:05,574 --> 00:21:07,162 How is the fact that 433 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,233 your father was a cop affect your youth? 434 00:21:09,337 --> 00:21:10,717 I learned to duck real quick. 435 00:21:10,821 --> 00:21:12,301 You got into physical fights with him. 436 00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:13,513 Yeah, he used to beat me. 437 00:21:13,617 --> 00:21:14,928 I was his punching bag, you know. 438 00:21:15,032 --> 00:21:16,378 And I was just a wiseass, man. 439 00:21:16,482 --> 00:21:17,690 Just a motormouth, you know. 440 00:21:17,793 --> 00:21:19,219 Whatever he had to say, I had, you know, 441 00:21:19,243 --> 00:21:21,245 ten wise answers for it, you know? 442 00:21:21,349 --> 00:21:22,660 And he used to smack you up 443 00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:24,352 - by the third or something? - Yeah. 444 00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:26,019 Did it get to a point where he had to catch you? 445 00:21:26,043 --> 00:21:27,113 - I mean, you ran? - Yeah. 446 00:21:27,216 --> 00:21:28,496 Well, that's exactly what it was 447 00:21:28,563 --> 00:21:30,392 is that, like, when I got to be about 12, 448 00:21:30,496 --> 00:21:31,776 I could run faster than he could. 449 00:21:31,807 --> 00:21:33,464 - Mm-hmm. - I was really fast. 450 00:21:33,568 --> 00:21:35,511 And so I-I had this, like, little radar thing going. 451 00:21:35,535 --> 00:21:37,365 I could only stay a certain distance from him 452 00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:38,883 and be wise, you know? 453 00:21:38,987 --> 00:21:40,689 'Cause I knew I could outrun him from that distance. 454 00:21:40,713 --> 00:21:41,966 But he used to chase me through the house, 455 00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:43,278 out through the yard, over the fence 456 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:44,579 and down the alley. 457 00:21:44,682 --> 00:21:46,960 My relationship with my dad 458 00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:50,101 was always contentious. Always. 459 00:21:50,205 --> 00:21:52,000 We fought a battle our whole lives. 460 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:56,004 I left home because one of us was gonna get hurt. 461 00:21:56,107 --> 00:21:58,731 And I told him that if he ever hit me again, 462 00:21:58,834 --> 00:22:00,974 I was gonna do something about it. 463 00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:07,740 College, man, that was, like, the big melting pot. 464 00:22:07,843 --> 00:22:10,363 There was kids from all over. 465 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:12,538 You could voice your opinion in college, 466 00:22:12,641 --> 00:22:14,781 and everybody had a different opinion. 467 00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:17,439 Catholic school, you go, "Uh, God told me, 468 00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:19,199 and now I'm telling you." 469 00:22:19,786 --> 00:22:21,685 I was in line trying to register for class, 470 00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:23,514 and this really cute girl says, 471 00:22:23,618 --> 00:22:25,136 "Oh, I just signed up for pottery. 472 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,655 You should take it with me." 473 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,726 I threw my first wad of clay on the wheel, 474 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:29,589 and that was it. 475 00:22:29,693 --> 00:22:32,385 I was gonna be a potter. 476 00:22:32,489 --> 00:22:34,456 My recessive Mexican pottery genes 477 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,906 came jumping out, said, 478 00:22:36,009 --> 00:22:37,701 "Hey, vato, where you been, man? Come on." 479 00:22:39,047 --> 00:22:43,016 And that coincided with the first time I smoked a joint. 480 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,949 I came home one night, 481 00:22:45,053 --> 00:22:46,986 and all my roommates were having a party. 482 00:22:47,089 --> 00:22:49,954 One of them handed me this hand-rolled cigarette, 483 00:22:50,058 --> 00:22:51,473 and I go, "Wh-What's this?" 484 00:22:51,577 --> 00:22:54,096 I took a hit. 485 00:22:57,479 --> 00:22:59,516 The only thing I remember was thinking, 486 00:22:59,619 --> 00:23:02,381 "And what else have they been lying about?" 487 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,668 ♪ You don't want me running around... ♪ 488 00:23:13,771 --> 00:23:15,946 Everything was rapidly changing, 489 00:23:16,049 --> 00:23:18,051 and there was a growing recognition 490 00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:20,882 that we were a big generation with a lot of power. 491 00:23:20,985 --> 00:23:23,125 And we started exercising that power. 492 00:23:23,229 --> 00:23:25,265 Never has this dissent been as emotional, 493 00:23:25,369 --> 00:23:29,822 as intense as is the dissent against the war in Vietnam. 494 00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:33,653 The Vietnam war was starting 495 00:23:33,757 --> 00:23:35,517 to really rage at that time. 496 00:23:35,621 --> 00:23:38,106 And they were drafting college-age kids. 497 00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:40,039 I was exempt because I was in college, 498 00:23:40,142 --> 00:23:43,629 but all these other kids were going and going and going. 499 00:23:48,944 --> 00:23:50,646 I had this conversation with my dad, who was 500 00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:52,603 a Navy World War II vet, and he said, 501 00:23:52,707 --> 00:23:54,581 "I don't believe in what they're doing over there, 502 00:23:54,605 --> 00:23:56,745 but if they called me, I would go." 503 00:23:56,849 --> 00:23:59,714 Well, that was the difference between us, you know. 504 00:23:59,817 --> 00:24:02,061 Uh, I-I-I did question authority, 505 00:24:02,164 --> 00:24:03,763 and I didn't like the answers I was getting, 506 00:24:03,787 --> 00:24:05,202 if I ever got an answer. 507 00:24:05,305 --> 00:24:07,756 We are not only opposed to the war in Vietnam. 508 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:11,001 We're opposed to the draft of anybody, Black or white. 509 00:24:11,104 --> 00:24:13,210 We had tons of influential, 510 00:24:13,313 --> 00:24:15,039 radical speakers. 511 00:24:15,143 --> 00:24:17,456 David Harris, my favorite, 512 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,734 he was the one that influenced me the most. 513 00:24:19,837 --> 00:24:21,736 The assumption that Selective Service 514 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:23,323 makes about us, and the assumption 515 00:24:23,427 --> 00:24:25,256 that the American states makes about 516 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,544 the young people of this country 517 00:24:26,568 --> 00:24:29,364 comes into a fundamental contradiction 518 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,400 with the way we understand our own lives. 519 00:24:31,504 --> 00:24:34,438 The concept of the draft resistance movement was 520 00:24:34,542 --> 00:24:36,475 refuse at every step. 521 00:24:36,578 --> 00:24:38,280 If you were not registered, don't register. 522 00:24:38,304 --> 00:24:40,213 If you registered to vote and they called you up 523 00:24:40,237 --> 00:24:42,860 for a physical, don't go to the physical. 524 00:24:42,964 --> 00:24:45,138 Use the bureaucracy against itself. 525 00:24:45,242 --> 00:24:46,522 And that's what I decided to do, 526 00:24:46,623 --> 00:24:49,488 and I was, uh, active in the... in the chapter. 527 00:24:49,591 --> 00:24:53,043 ♪ And I'm free, oh, yeah, oh, yeah ♪ 528 00:24:53,146 --> 00:24:56,529 ♪ Free, free spirit. 529 00:24:57,392 --> 00:24:59,152 Wow. 530 00:24:59,256 --> 00:25:01,258 Look at the desert now. 531 00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:05,055 It actually reflects off the clouds. 532 00:25:05,158 --> 00:25:07,436 And it gives a nice glow. 533 00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:09,577 - Uh-huh. - Mm. 534 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,683 So, how much was in these gummies? 535 00:25:13,477 --> 00:25:14,927 Whoa. 536 00:25:19,138 --> 00:25:21,520 Ho-ho! 537 00:25:21,623 --> 00:25:23,245 Shit. 538 00:25:28,596 --> 00:25:29,942 We're gigging around town 539 00:25:30,045 --> 00:25:32,738 when we got discovered by The Supremes. 540 00:25:32,841 --> 00:25:35,982 Diana Ross saw us, loved us, called Berry Gordy. 541 00:25:36,086 --> 00:25:38,571 Berry Gordy got on a plane, flew to Vancouver, 542 00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:39,779 and he signed us. 543 00:25:39,883 --> 00:25:41,643 And we ended up in Detroit. 544 00:25:41,747 --> 00:25:45,578 ♪ Where is your love going? 545 00:25:45,682 --> 00:25:50,238 Shelby got pregnant that acid night. 546 00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:54,276 She got pregnant and decided to come with me. 547 00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:57,383 Maxine knew about Shelby, and Shelby, of course, 548 00:25:57,486 --> 00:25:59,074 knew about Maxine. 549 00:25:59,178 --> 00:26:02,008 They were pretty cool about it, you know, considering. 550 00:26:02,112 --> 00:26:04,321 In fact, everybody was pretty cool about it. 551 00:26:04,424 --> 00:26:06,599 I wouldn't say I was cool about it. 552 00:26:06,703 --> 00:26:09,360 But I had two kids, and I loved him. 553 00:26:13,882 --> 00:26:16,782 - You okay? - Huh? 554 00:26:16,885 --> 00:26:18,128 Why? 555 00:26:18,231 --> 00:26:20,268 Am I driving okay? 556 00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:26,136 I spent my time recording the record 557 00:26:26,239 --> 00:26:28,587 and trying to support my two families. 558 00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:30,036 ♪ I'm a guy... 559 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:32,798 Bobby Taylor was a legend with Motown. 560 00:26:32,901 --> 00:26:35,594 Whenever we appeared live, which was quite often 561 00:26:35,697 --> 00:26:38,182 because Berry loved to show us off, 562 00:26:38,286 --> 00:26:41,634 all of Motown that was in town would come to see us 563 00:26:41,738 --> 00:26:44,154 and just marvel at Bobby Taylor's voice. 564 00:26:44,257 --> 00:26:47,778 ♪ You know you're Little Miss Sweetness ♪ 565 00:26:47,882 --> 00:26:49,987 ♪ Sweetest girl in the world, now... ♪ 566 00:26:50,091 --> 00:26:51,748 You're songwriters, right? 567 00:26:51,851 --> 00:26:53,853 - What'd you write? - I wrote uh, 568 00:26:53,957 --> 00:26:55,786 uh, "Does Your Mama Know About Me?" 569 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:57,108 For Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers? 570 00:26:57,132 --> 00:26:58,824 - Yeah. - Oh, he's a great talent. 571 00:26:58,927 --> 00:27:02,828 - Yeah, really. You know Bobby? - Of course I know Bobby. 572 00:27:02,931 --> 00:27:07,418 ♪ Does your mama know about me? ♪ 573 00:27:07,522 --> 00:27:12,976 ♪ Does she know just what I am? ♪ 574 00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:14,909 I was always writing. 575 00:27:15,012 --> 00:27:18,533 I-I write to this day. I'm a compulsive writer. 576 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:19,948 And I wrote a poem. 577 00:27:20,052 --> 00:27:22,468 How'd you get inspiration for a song like, uh, 578 00:27:22,571 --> 00:27:23,918 "Does Your Mama Know About Me?" 579 00:27:24,021 --> 00:27:26,092 I used to sort of hang out with the Black set, 580 00:27:26,196 --> 00:27:28,198 so to speak, you know, and I used to watch 581 00:27:28,301 --> 00:27:30,062 a lot of friends of mine like Bobby Taylor 582 00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:31,719 take out white girls, you know? 583 00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:33,410 - Uh-oh. - And drop 'em off. 584 00:27:33,513 --> 00:27:35,861 - Cut... cut that part out, please. - 585 00:27:35,964 --> 00:27:37,656 And now a word from Artra. Uh... 586 00:27:43,006 --> 00:27:44,663 "Does Your Mama Know About Me?" 587 00:27:44,766 --> 00:27:48,459 was my first taste of being a songwriter. 588 00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:55,294 General Lewis Hershey, 589 00:27:55,397 --> 00:27:57,399 the crusty 74-year-old head of Selective Service, 590 00:27:57,503 --> 00:28:00,023 has told draft boards across the country 591 00:28:00,126 --> 00:28:02,611 to take away the deferments of registrants 592 00:28:02,715 --> 00:28:04,786 who take actions interfering with 593 00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:07,099 Selective Service procedures. 594 00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:08,928 General Hershey issued 595 00:28:09,032 --> 00:28:11,690 a directive that anybody who turned their draft card in 596 00:28:11,793 --> 00:28:15,452 or-or burned their draft card or anything that we were doing 597 00:28:15,555 --> 00:28:18,282 would be immediately reclassified 1-A 598 00:28:18,386 --> 00:28:21,044 and sent to the front lines of Vietnam. 599 00:28:21,147 --> 00:28:22,908 Totally illegal. 600 00:28:23,011 --> 00:28:24,131 Your critics say that you're 601 00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:25,980 stifling dissent in this country. 602 00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:29,121 If it stifles dissent to get people 603 00:28:29,224 --> 00:28:32,711 to obey the laws, I'm guilty. 604 00:28:32,814 --> 00:28:34,471 People were freaking out. 605 00:28:34,574 --> 00:28:37,646 People were being sentenced to eight years in prison. 606 00:28:38,475 --> 00:28:41,202 My pottery teacher, who knew of my circumstance, said, 607 00:28:41,305 --> 00:28:43,273 "I have this student who's in Canada right now 608 00:28:43,376 --> 00:28:45,413 and maybe could use an assistant." 609 00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:47,622 That's all I needed. I was on a Greyhound bus 610 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,038 and on my way to Canada to be a potter. 611 00:28:51,108 --> 00:28:52,627 It's entirely possible 612 00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,974 for a draft dodger, posing as a visitor 613 00:28:55,078 --> 00:28:57,528 or a student, to cross the border 614 00:28:57,632 --> 00:28:59,013 and simply disappear. 615 00:29:00,704 --> 00:29:02,085 I had never been in a place 616 00:29:02,188 --> 00:29:03,534 where it was snowing before. 617 00:29:03,638 --> 00:29:06,020 I had never seen snow. 618 00:29:06,123 --> 00:29:08,229 It was the purest time in my life. 619 00:29:08,332 --> 00:29:11,232 I was meditating every day, going down to the river 620 00:29:11,335 --> 00:29:12,647 for my water, 621 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:16,202 chopping wood and working as a potter. 622 00:29:16,306 --> 00:29:18,515 I was in heaven. 623 00:29:19,102 --> 00:29:22,036 The funny thing was, is I moved to the exact location 624 00:29:22,139 --> 00:29:24,970 that Tommy Chong was born and raised in. 625 00:29:25,522 --> 00:29:27,627 My mother and I would write every once in a while 626 00:29:27,731 --> 00:29:30,354 just to let her know that I was okay. 627 00:29:30,458 --> 00:29:32,943 I'd never talk to my father all the time I was in Canada. 628 00:29:33,047 --> 00:29:34,911 I didn't communicate with him ever. 629 00:29:35,014 --> 00:29:37,603 No phone calls, no letters, no nothing. 630 00:29:37,706 --> 00:29:39,881 Just goodbye. 631 00:29:41,469 --> 00:29:43,471 Hey, man. 632 00:29:43,574 --> 00:29:46,439 Why do you always drive? 633 00:29:50,892 --> 00:29:54,344 San Francisco was a happening place. 634 00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:56,967 We had a gig at Big Al's on Broadway, 635 00:29:57,071 --> 00:30:01,316 and I had a whole week to explore that area. 636 00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:05,148 At night, we had nothing to do, so I'd wander around the clubs, 637 00:30:05,251 --> 00:30:07,633 and everybody that was anybody was playing. 638 00:30:07,736 --> 00:30:10,947 Lenny Bruce was at the Hungry I. 639 00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:12,880 I couldn't afford to go in to see him, 640 00:30:12,983 --> 00:30:15,399 but I sat out in the alley and listened to him. 641 00:30:15,503 --> 00:30:19,127 I wandered around, and I stumbled into a theater 642 00:30:19,231 --> 00:30:21,095 where The Committee were playing. 643 00:30:21,198 --> 00:30:23,511 It was an improvisational group. 644 00:30:23,614 --> 00:30:25,444 That night, they did a bit 645 00:30:25,547 --> 00:30:29,034 where the whole cast became little dogs, 646 00:30:29,137 --> 00:30:31,001 and one's taking a dump, 647 00:30:31,105 --> 00:30:33,693 another one's sniffing the other one's butt. 648 00:30:33,797 --> 00:30:35,488 And then crawled off the stage, 649 00:30:35,592 --> 00:30:37,939 but just seeing human beings taking a little doggie poop 650 00:30:38,043 --> 00:30:41,046 on the stage just made me laugh so hard 651 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:43,013 I literally fell out of my seat. 652 00:30:43,117 --> 00:30:46,534 I had never laughed so hard at anything. 653 00:30:47,293 --> 00:30:49,295 I was sick of the blues by then. 654 00:30:49,399 --> 00:30:52,471 I wanted to see acting. I couldn't get enough of them. 655 00:30:52,574 --> 00:30:57,821 So I would go down every night if I could and-and see them. 656 00:30:58,408 --> 00:31:02,170 I got a job at a ski resort being a fry cook. 657 00:31:02,274 --> 00:31:04,586 At that time, I had very little to do, 658 00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:06,623 and I learned how to ski. 659 00:31:06,726 --> 00:31:08,349 Sort of. 660 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:11,224 In the process of learning how to ski, 661 00:31:11,248 --> 00:31:13,630 I learned how to break my leg in half. 662 00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:16,012 I had a compound fracture, 663 00:31:16,115 --> 00:31:17,703 and I was in the hospital for a month, 664 00:31:17,806 --> 00:31:21,431 and then I was in a full-length cast for six months. 665 00:31:21,534 --> 00:31:22,950 This girl I knew said, 666 00:31:23,053 --> 00:31:25,780 "You can stay here while you recuperate," so... 667 00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,575 while she went to work during the day, 668 00:31:27,678 --> 00:31:29,266 I would hobble around the house. 669 00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:31,924 She only had one record album in the whole place. 670 00:31:32,028 --> 00:31:34,271 And it was this Diana Ross and The Supremes 671 00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:35,824 Love Child album. 672 00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:38,008 And on thisLove Child album, there was a song called 673 00:31:38,068 --> 00:31:39,449 "Does Your Mama Know About Me?" 674 00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:42,176 And I would listen to it every day. 675 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,040 ♪ Does your mama know about me? ♪ 676 00:31:44,143 --> 00:31:45,455 And the lyrics were right on 677 00:31:45,558 --> 00:31:47,146 about what was happening at the time. 678 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:48,492 And so one day, I said, 679 00:31:48,596 --> 00:31:50,184 "But what brother wrote this song?" 680 00:31:50,287 --> 00:31:51,816 And I turned over the album, and it said, 681 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,153 "Lyrics by T. Chong." 682 00:31:55,741 --> 00:31:58,261 What kind of name is T. Chong for a brother? 683 00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:04,784 We were playing the Regal Theater 684 00:32:04,888 --> 00:32:06,890 in the heart of the Chicago ghetto. 685 00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:09,272 Everybody played the Regal Theater. 686 00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:12,620 And there was a group called The Jackson Five Plus Johnny. 687 00:32:12,723 --> 00:32:17,625 ♪ I know you told me... 688 00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:20,007 When we first heard Michael sing, 689 00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:22,354 it was a revelation. 690 00:32:22,457 --> 00:32:25,391 He was the most talented little guy I'd ever seen. 691 00:32:25,495 --> 00:32:28,843 And so Bobby Taylor convinced Joe Jackson 692 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:31,018 and the family to come to Detroit. 693 00:32:31,121 --> 00:32:32,536 ♪ Well, you didn't 694 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,987 ♪ You didn't want me around, baby, yeah... ♪ 695 00:32:35,091 --> 00:32:37,748 Bobby had him audition for Berry. 696 00:32:37,852 --> 00:32:39,371 ♪ Love me no more 697 00:32:39,474 --> 00:32:41,062 He signed them immediately. 698 00:32:41,166 --> 00:32:43,478 ♪ But I want to know something, yeah... ♪ 699 00:32:43,582 --> 00:32:46,895 Bobby Taylor quit the band and went solo. 700 00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:51,210 He ended up producing at least their first record for sure. 701 00:32:51,314 --> 00:32:55,974 ♪ I just want to say, yeah, I just want to say, yeah... ♪ 702 00:32:56,526 --> 00:32:59,253 And that was the last band that I was in. 703 00:32:59,356 --> 00:33:03,671 - ♪ I've been a fool ♪ - ♪ Oh-oh, whoa 704 00:33:03,774 --> 00:33:09,642 ♪ I've been a fool for you, baby, yeah... ♪ 705 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,165 The clubs got into a little bit of trouble, 706 00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:17,478 so I had to go back to Vancouver. 707 00:33:20,343 --> 00:33:22,276 I started working in the light booth, 708 00:33:22,379 --> 00:33:24,209 doing the lights for the girls' show, 709 00:33:24,312 --> 00:33:27,384 and then I saw how uninteresting the show was. 710 00:33:27,488 --> 00:33:29,455 They needed some kind of new direction. 711 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,837 It's a typical Canadian floor show. 712 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:33,332 And the girls come out one at a time, 713 00:33:33,356 --> 00:33:35,082 and here's Candy and here's Lotty 714 00:33:35,185 --> 00:33:36,393 and here's Maryland. 715 00:33:36,497 --> 00:33:37,981 And that was the end of the show. 716 00:33:38,085 --> 00:33:39,327 Well, no one watched it. 717 00:33:39,431 --> 00:33:40,925 These drunks would come in and get drunk 718 00:33:40,949 --> 00:33:42,468 and pass out, kind of look up there, 719 00:33:42,572 --> 00:33:45,368 and it never interrupted their conversation. 720 00:33:45,471 --> 00:33:47,391 But I-I wanted to see something happen, you know? 721 00:33:47,439 --> 00:33:50,787 So I-I, I used all these people as an improv group. 722 00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:55,861 At the end of the season, 723 00:33:55,964 --> 00:33:57,207 my roommate says, 724 00:33:57,311 --> 00:33:58,667 "Well, I'm going back to Vancouver. 725 00:33:58,691 --> 00:34:00,521 Come with me. We'll live in Vancouver." 726 00:34:00,624 --> 00:34:03,248 Sounds great. I had never been to Vancouver before. 727 00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:06,044 So away we went to Vancouver. 728 00:34:06,147 --> 00:34:08,253 This is Canada's Haight-Ashbury, 729 00:34:08,356 --> 00:34:10,151 an area of Vancouver that houses 730 00:34:10,255 --> 00:34:12,878 Canada's largest hippie population. 731 00:34:12,981 --> 00:34:15,156 Vancouver in the late '60s 732 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:17,710 was the San Francisco of Canada. 733 00:34:17,814 --> 00:34:19,126 Bands were coming out of there. 734 00:34:19,229 --> 00:34:21,128 Culture was coming out of there. 735 00:34:21,231 --> 00:34:22,508 It was like the hippies 736 00:34:22,612 --> 00:34:24,476 without the political aspect of it. 737 00:34:26,616 --> 00:34:29,446 Out of the blue, I ran into a high school friend of mine, 738 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:31,724 and he was writing for the Western Canadian version 739 00:34:31,828 --> 00:34:33,105 ofRolling Stone. 740 00:34:33,209 --> 00:34:34,693 We hooked up and he said, 741 00:34:34,796 --> 00:34:37,351 "Hey, I-I remember you were a writer from high school. 742 00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:38,628 "Want to write some articles 743 00:34:38,731 --> 00:34:40,492 or do some reviews for this magazine?" 744 00:34:40,595 --> 00:34:44,116 I had no experience interviewing people, 745 00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:45,773 but I said I did. 746 00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:49,501 One day, I met with the publisher, and he says, 747 00:34:49,604 --> 00:34:51,537 "There's this guy I want you to meet. 748 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:54,368 "His name is Tommy Chong, and he has this weird thing. 749 00:34:54,471 --> 00:34:57,060 "It's an improvisational theater company 750 00:34:57,164 --> 00:35:00,408 in a topless bar in Chinatown." 751 00:35:00,512 --> 00:35:02,445 A friend of mine that owned a magazine, 752 00:35:02,548 --> 00:35:04,792 he knew of a guy that would fit the show really well. 753 00:35:04,895 --> 00:35:08,451 Funny little guy named Richard, and I should meet him. 754 00:35:08,554 --> 00:35:10,556 It was the first time I'd ever seen a Mexican. 755 00:35:12,386 --> 00:35:14,974 And I said, "Oh, you're sort of like a... Hindu." "No." 756 00:35:15,078 --> 00:35:17,080 "Are you a rug rider or what?" You know? 757 00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:18,461 "I don't know. What is he? 758 00:35:18,564 --> 00:35:19,979 You know, he-he's something." 759 00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:21,563 And then someone said, "He's Mexican." 760 00:35:21,602 --> 00:35:22,786 I'd never met a Mexican before. 761 00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:24,536 That's the same opinion I had of him 762 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:26,745 'cause he was Chinese, but not Chinese, 763 00:35:26,848 --> 00:35:28,808 or he was, like, Mongolian or something, you know. 764 00:35:29,989 --> 00:35:31,301 I gave him this line of bull 765 00:35:31,405 --> 00:35:33,269 that I was this great improv actor and writer. 766 00:35:33,372 --> 00:35:35,143 And so he says, "But you should come down to the club 767 00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:37,652 tomorrow night and see us." 768 00:35:37,756 --> 00:35:39,275 It was a little sketchy, you know. 769 00:35:39,378 --> 00:35:40,818 The club was up on the second floor. 770 00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:45,246 It was dark and a lot of bikers and loggers 771 00:35:45,350 --> 00:35:47,110 and hockey players and pimps. 772 00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:48,629 And there was a lot of girls 773 00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:50,838 that you could tell they were working. 774 00:35:50,941 --> 00:35:52,357 We were backstage, 775 00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:53,989 and I was looking through the curtains, 776 00:35:54,013 --> 00:35:56,878 and Cheech was with this gorgeous brunette 777 00:35:56,982 --> 00:35:59,364 wearing a full-length mink coat. 778 00:35:59,467 --> 00:36:01,883 Tommy always said she had this mink coat on. 779 00:36:01,987 --> 00:36:03,954 She never saw mink in her life. 780 00:36:04,058 --> 00:36:07,544 It was some rabbit fur deal, but to him, it was a mink coat. 781 00:36:07,648 --> 00:36:09,167 Soon as I saw that, 782 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:11,928 I said, "Well, he's hired." 783 00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:13,412 They came out. 784 00:36:13,516 --> 00:36:14,631 It was the weirdest thing I'd ever seen. 785 00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:17,209 They had a classical guitarist. 786 00:36:17,313 --> 00:36:20,074 They had a mime, a mime in a strip bar. 787 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,319 And these girls dancing kind of in chiffon see-through. 788 00:36:23,422 --> 00:36:25,331 And they would take that off, and so I was like, 789 00:36:25,355 --> 00:36:26,977 "What is this?" 790 00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:29,121 In the middle of that comes this guy, David Graham, 791 00:36:29,152 --> 00:36:31,810 Tommy's original partner, and he starts singing... 792 00:36:31,913 --> 00:36:36,263 ♪ I dream of Brownie in the light blue jeans ♪ 793 00:36:36,366 --> 00:36:40,301 ♪ She is just as neat as licorice jelly beans. ♪ 794 00:36:40,405 --> 00:36:43,097 And out comes Tommy, and he goes, 795 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:45,479 "What kind of fucking song is that?" 796 00:36:45,582 --> 00:36:48,206 And starts beating him with this newspaper. 797 00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:50,449 And it just cracked me up. 798 00:36:50,553 --> 00:36:52,106 I just thought, 799 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,797 "Oh, this is really off the wall, man. 800 00:36:53,901 --> 00:36:56,421 Okay, I'll-I'll work with these guys." 801 00:36:57,974 --> 00:36:59,251 When I got hired by Tommy, 802 00:36:59,355 --> 00:37:01,667 I got hired as a writer for the group. 803 00:37:01,771 --> 00:37:03,669 Every day, we would have little rehearsals 804 00:37:03,773 --> 00:37:06,534 and I would throw out new little bits we could use. 805 00:37:06,638 --> 00:37:10,400 And so very quickly, I started writing bits for myself. 806 00:37:12,126 --> 00:37:13,748 One, zero. 807 00:37:13,852 --> 00:37:16,613 It was around the time we landed on the moon. 808 00:37:16,717 --> 00:37:19,306 And so one of the first bits he did 809 00:37:19,409 --> 00:37:21,584 was about being shot into space. 810 00:37:21,687 --> 00:37:23,586 And then, when he's in space, 811 00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:25,588 he's looking around and there's no one around, 812 00:37:25,691 --> 00:37:27,555 so he starts masturbating. 813 00:37:27,659 --> 00:37:29,259 Cheech came out of college, and he had... 814 00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:30,500 you know, I mean, he was a singer. 815 00:37:30,524 --> 00:37:32,388 He used to sing like Johnny Mathis, 816 00:37:32,491 --> 00:37:34,051 and he had short hair and he'd meditate. 817 00:37:34,113 --> 00:37:36,909 You know, everybody would be smoking dope, and we'd go, 818 00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:38,117 "Is he a narc?" 819 00:37:38,221 --> 00:37:39,498 They thought I was a narc 820 00:37:39,602 --> 00:37:40,958 - for the longest time, yeah. - Yeah. 821 00:37:40,982 --> 00:37:42,812 And Cheech is sitting there like a little... 822 00:37:42,915 --> 00:37:44,641 Mahavishnu bass player. 823 00:37:46,402 --> 00:37:48,783 He had this beautiful energy. 824 00:37:48,887 --> 00:37:51,890 I never met anybody quite like him. 825 00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:55,790 I've always done the, the next thing to come along. 826 00:37:55,894 --> 00:37:57,413 This came along cool. 827 00:37:57,516 --> 00:38:01,106 Improv strippers. Yeah, I could do that. 828 00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:05,386 The City Works was real street theater. 829 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:06,905 Anything was possible 830 00:38:07,008 --> 00:38:09,701 'cause you never knew what was going to work. 831 00:38:09,804 --> 00:38:11,737 The show went two hours a night. 832 00:38:11,841 --> 00:38:13,360 In the first hour, we'd do our show, 833 00:38:13,463 --> 00:38:15,914 and then we'd take suggestions from the audience 834 00:38:16,017 --> 00:38:17,433 for the second show. 835 00:38:18,019 --> 00:38:19,711 You know, everybody else viewed this 836 00:38:19,814 --> 00:38:22,955 as like this temporary lark they were doing. 837 00:38:23,059 --> 00:38:24,957 Tommy was the one that was most serious 838 00:38:25,061 --> 00:38:30,411 about making a real go of it and proved to be very astute. 839 00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:32,068 He's a very funny guy 840 00:38:32,171 --> 00:38:35,036 in seeing what's really obvious that nobody else sees. 841 00:38:36,762 --> 00:38:38,868 There was a garbage strike in Vancouver, 842 00:38:38,971 --> 00:38:42,458 and this hippie Strawberry was sitting on a pile 843 00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:45,978 of plastic garbage bags in the rain. 844 00:38:46,082 --> 00:38:48,326 And he was on acid. 845 00:38:48,429 --> 00:38:50,086 And I found out that he was homeless. 846 00:38:50,189 --> 00:38:51,639 So I said, 847 00:38:51,743 --> 00:38:54,849 "Well, I got a nightclub, and you can stay there." 848 00:38:54,953 --> 00:38:56,610 He said, "Oh, okay." 849 00:38:56,713 --> 00:38:59,613 Strawberry was, like, perpetually stoned. 850 00:38:59,716 --> 00:39:02,305 That's where I got the... that "Hey, man." 851 00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:04,100 That was Strawberry. 852 00:39:04,203 --> 00:39:07,206 And we needed someone to work the lights. 853 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,554 So Strawberry became our light man 854 00:39:09,657 --> 00:39:11,521 and our biggest critic. 855 00:39:11,625 --> 00:39:15,767 "Hey, man. Oh, hey. That last act really sucked, man. 856 00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:17,470 "Hey, but you were, you were really good. 857 00:39:17,527 --> 00:39:18,839 But it really sucked, you know?" 858 00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:20,461 "Whoa. Whoa. 859 00:39:20,565 --> 00:39:24,189 That was horrible, man." 860 00:39:24,776 --> 00:39:27,056 And Strawberry would be late with the blackout sometimes, 861 00:39:27,088 --> 00:39:30,506 and we'd be frozen in position and Cheech would go, 862 00:39:30,609 --> 00:39:33,716 "Strawberry. Blackout, Strawberry." 863 00:39:36,443 --> 00:39:38,548 It got to the point where 864 00:39:38,652 --> 00:39:40,447 we were causing a little bit of noise, 865 00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:42,069 and they sent the theater critic 866 00:39:42,172 --> 00:39:43,346 from theVancouver Sun. 867 00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:44,761 He thought he was going to see 868 00:39:44,865 --> 00:39:46,729 some avant-garde theater company, 869 00:39:46,832 --> 00:39:49,421 kind of like Living Theatre out of New York. 870 00:39:49,525 --> 00:39:51,250 What he got was hippie burlesque. 871 00:39:51,354 --> 00:39:54,633 The crowd went from 20, uh, drunk bikers 872 00:39:54,737 --> 00:39:56,463 that would throw money around 873 00:39:56,566 --> 00:39:59,466 to a couple of hundred theatergoers 874 00:39:59,569 --> 00:40:01,364 who would count their change. 875 00:40:01,468 --> 00:40:04,678 And so we ended up, uh, being fired. 876 00:40:05,851 --> 00:40:07,646 My brother wanted to take the club back 877 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:09,614 to the old stripper format, 878 00:40:09,717 --> 00:40:13,307 and we had run our course as an improvisational group. 879 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,136 And so the group broke up. 880 00:40:16,759 --> 00:40:18,657 The girls went back stripping. 881 00:40:18,761 --> 00:40:20,348 David had a family, 882 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,247 and he wasn't interested in going anywhere. 883 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:24,456 The mime artist wanted to go to the woods 884 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,009 to get his head together. 885 00:40:26,113 --> 00:40:28,805 I'd been to the woods. My head was together. 886 00:40:28,909 --> 00:40:31,498 We were the last two left standing. 887 00:40:34,086 --> 00:40:36,123 Tommy called me up. 888 00:40:36,226 --> 00:40:37,466 Said, "I-I got what we can do. 889 00:40:37,504 --> 00:40:38,824 "We'll form a group, me and you. 890 00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:40,370 "I'm a guitar player, you're a singer, 891 00:40:40,472 --> 00:40:42,440 "and we'll do music like a lounge act, 892 00:40:42,543 --> 00:40:43,820 and we'll do these skits." 893 00:40:43,924 --> 00:40:45,753 And we were gonna do 894 00:40:45,857 --> 00:40:47,928 a battle of the bands in Vancouver. 895 00:40:48,031 --> 00:40:49,274 A big, big event. 896 00:40:49,377 --> 00:40:50,724 There was about 897 00:40:50,827 --> 00:40:53,243 maybe a thousand young kids there, you know, 898 00:40:53,347 --> 00:40:54,831 ready to hear music. 899 00:40:54,935 --> 00:40:56,902 But we were gonna start out with comedy, 900 00:40:57,006 --> 00:40:58,973 and then we were going to go into music. 901 00:40:59,077 --> 00:41:01,493 And the band's all ready to play. 902 00:41:01,597 --> 00:41:03,391 So we did one bit, 903 00:41:03,495 --> 00:41:04,703 got attention. 904 00:41:04,807 --> 00:41:06,498 People shut up 905 00:41:06,602 --> 00:41:08,062 and started coming to the front of the stage. 906 00:41:08,086 --> 00:41:10,260 We did another bit. They were with us. 907 00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:14,057 So we did a third bit. Yeah, big standing ovation. 908 00:41:15,576 --> 00:41:16,657 Right after we got off stage, 909 00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:17,682 the bass player said, 910 00:41:17,785 --> 00:41:19,511 "So, when's our next gig, boss?" 911 00:41:19,615 --> 00:41:21,548 Knowing very well 912 00:41:21,651 --> 00:41:23,826 there was no gig 'cause they never played a note. 913 00:41:24,516 --> 00:41:27,830 We're driving home that night 'cause I had my dad's car, 914 00:41:27,933 --> 00:41:30,142 and the windshield wipers didn't work. 915 00:41:32,628 --> 00:41:34,526 Vancouver is notorious for the rain. 916 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:36,942 And the rain was coming down really hard. 917 00:41:37,046 --> 00:41:38,944 So Cheech and I were taking turns 918 00:41:39,048 --> 00:41:42,154 leaning out the car window with a coat hanger. 919 00:41:43,915 --> 00:41:46,918 We were saying, "Wow, let's look at you and me, bud." 920 00:41:47,021 --> 00:41:48,471 We're all buzzed about having won 921 00:41:48,575 --> 00:41:49,955 the battle of the bands. 922 00:41:50,059 --> 00:41:51,864 We got to go to America. We got to go to the U.S. 923 00:41:51,888 --> 00:41:53,590 And then we got to do this, we got to do that. 924 00:41:53,614 --> 00:41:55,098 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was fun. 925 00:41:55,202 --> 00:41:57,169 What do we call ourselves? 926 00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:00,932 'Cause he wanted his name to be on whatever he was in. 927 00:42:01,035 --> 00:42:03,175 He was a Shade. 928 00:42:03,279 --> 00:42:05,039 He was a Bachelor. 929 00:42:05,143 --> 00:42:06,731 He was a Vancouver. 930 00:42:06,834 --> 00:42:09,354 Whatever is gonna be next, he's gonna have his name on it. 931 00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:11,377 So I said, "Yeah. Me, too. I want my name on it. 932 00:42:11,459 --> 00:42:12,944 So, how are we gonna do this?" 933 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:15,463 Richard and Tommy? No. 934 00:42:15,567 --> 00:42:17,949 Chong and Marin? Nah, that's not exciting. 935 00:42:18,052 --> 00:42:20,054 How about Dick and Tommy? No. 936 00:42:20,158 --> 00:42:21,331 Tommy and Dick? No. 937 00:42:21,435 --> 00:42:24,300 How about, uh, Marin and Chong? 938 00:42:24,403 --> 00:42:27,717 Sounds like a "se habla español" law firm, man, you know. 939 00:42:27,821 --> 00:42:29,270 And I said, "Do you have a nickname?" 940 00:42:29,374 --> 00:42:32,204 Well, my name in my family is Cheech. 941 00:42:32,308 --> 00:42:33,689 Uh, it's short for "chicharrón," 942 00:42:33,792 --> 00:42:35,656 which is a... a deep-fried pigskin. 943 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,347 It's like Mexican potato chips. 944 00:42:37,451 --> 00:42:40,005 When I was a little baby, my uncle looked in the crib 945 00:42:40,109 --> 00:42:41,869 and said, "Ay, parece un chicharrón. 946 00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:44,631 Looks just like a little chicharrón." 947 00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:45,804 Cheech. 948 00:42:45,908 --> 00:42:49,739 Cheech & Chong. Cheech & Chong. 949 00:42:49,843 --> 00:42:52,777 The musician in both of our heads heard that, 950 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,720 'cause it had this rhythm. Cheech & Chong. 951 00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:56,263 It was never Chong and Cheech 952 00:42:56,366 --> 00:42:57,861 'cause it had nothing to do about billing. 953 00:42:57,885 --> 00:42:59,300 It had to do about the sound 954 00:42:59,404 --> 00:43:02,718 of how those two names sounded together. 955 00:43:02,821 --> 00:43:05,893 That was it. That was the name. 956 00:43:05,997 --> 00:43:07,619 Cheech & Chong! 957 00:43:07,723 --> 00:43:09,448 We went across the Georgia Narrows Bridge. 958 00:43:09,552 --> 00:43:11,323 There was a sign that said, "Proceed at your own risk." 959 00:43:11,347 --> 00:43:13,290 And we're going "Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be big, man. 960 00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:14,878 "We're gonna, we're gonna be the biggest names 961 00:43:14,902 --> 00:43:16,317 in comedy, right?" 962 00:43:16,421 --> 00:43:19,286 As we float off into the fog, "Cheech & Chong, 963 00:43:19,389 --> 00:43:21,081 Cheech & Chong, Cheech & Chong." 964 00:43:21,184 --> 00:43:22,990 It was almost like a train. "Yeah, here we go. 965 00:43:23,014 --> 00:43:25,810 Big time, here we come." 966 00:43:27,501 --> 00:43:29,468 ♪ Na, na-na, na-na 967 00:43:29,572 --> 00:43:32,713 ♪ Na-na, na-na, na-na-na, na-na-na ♪ 968 00:43:32,817 --> 00:43:35,889 ♪ Na-na, na-na, yeah 969 00:43:36,924 --> 00:43:39,202 ♪ Na, na-na, na-na 970 00:43:39,306 --> 00:43:41,895 ♪ Na-na, na-na, na-na-na, na-na-na... ♪ 971 00:43:41,998 --> 00:43:44,000 We got two choices, New York or Los Angeles, 972 00:43:44,104 --> 00:43:45,795 and L.A. is a lot warmer. 973 00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:47,417 It's a little warmer. Yeah. 974 00:43:47,521 --> 00:43:49,730 It's easier to starve in L.A. than it is in New York. 975 00:43:49,834 --> 00:43:51,249 Is that a period 976 00:43:51,352 --> 00:43:52,916 that you had to go through is starving in L.A.? 977 00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:55,011 Sure, everybody has to go through it. 978 00:43:55,115 --> 00:43:58,705 In L.A., I mean, show business capital of the world, 979 00:43:58,808 --> 00:44:00,683 you, you have to know someone to get an audition. 980 00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:02,225 Mm-hmm. 981 00:44:02,329 --> 00:44:04,711 You know, you just can't, uh, to even play a free gig, 982 00:44:04,814 --> 00:44:06,436 you can't just get up and do it. 983 00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:07,886 You have to know somebody. 984 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:09,060 Who did you know? 985 00:44:09,163 --> 00:44:11,959 Well, nobody. We... 986 00:44:16,205 --> 00:44:19,242 We immediately went to Maxine's apartment. 987 00:44:19,346 --> 00:44:21,762 I showed up with a Mexican. 988 00:44:21,866 --> 00:44:23,626 I wasn't a musician anymore. 989 00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:25,732 And now I'm looking 990 00:44:25,835 --> 00:44:27,803 for a gig as a comedian. 991 00:44:27,906 --> 00:44:29,597 Tommy says, "Hey, Maxine, 992 00:44:29,701 --> 00:44:32,462 this is my partner Cheech, and we need to stay with you." 993 00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:34,188 And to her everlasting credit, 994 00:44:34,292 --> 00:44:37,813 Maxine said, "Okay," and let us in. 995 00:44:37,916 --> 00:44:40,608 I slept on the couch, which was all right at nighttime, 996 00:44:40,712 --> 00:44:42,403 but in the morning, 997 00:44:42,507 --> 00:44:44,543 Rae Dawn and Robbi would get up and watch cartoons 998 00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:46,891 and eat their cereal and give me that glare, like, 999 00:44:46,994 --> 00:44:49,410 "Who the hell are you? What are you doing here?" 1000 00:44:49,514 --> 00:44:53,138 And so I just rolled over and went back to sleep. 1001 00:44:55,071 --> 00:44:58,005 Basically, we were broke, both of us. 1002 00:44:58,109 --> 00:45:00,076 And I started phoning around 1003 00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:02,044 looking for a gig for us to play. 1004 00:45:02,147 --> 00:45:04,080 And I found the Red Fox club. 1005 00:45:04,184 --> 00:45:08,050 Cheech & Chong. 1006 00:45:08,153 --> 00:45:10,604 We hadn't figured out what to do 1007 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,157 when we first walked out. 1008 00:45:12,261 --> 00:45:14,504 There was no routine. He'd talk, I'd talk. 1009 00:45:14,608 --> 00:45:18,025 We overlapped each other, so very quickly we figured out 1010 00:45:18,129 --> 00:45:19,924 that I would disappear and get ready 1011 00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:22,098 for the first character that I was gonna do. 1012 00:45:22,202 --> 00:45:25,723 And Tommy would start to develop this standup routine. 1013 00:45:25,826 --> 00:45:28,415 Here was a club that we could play every night, 1014 00:45:28,518 --> 00:45:29,796 work on our act every night. 1015 00:45:29,899 --> 00:45:31,418 It was like going to the gym. 1016 00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:33,558 The more you went to the gym, the stronger you got. 1017 00:45:33,661 --> 00:45:35,663 Any Chicanos here tonight, maybe? 1018 00:45:35,767 --> 00:45:37,873 They smuggle any of you in? 1019 00:45:37,976 --> 00:45:40,841 Anyways, it's really hip being Chicano nowadays. 1020 00:45:40,945 --> 00:45:42,094 I'm really glad it came around. 1021 00:45:42,118 --> 00:45:43,637 I was really having a tough time 1022 00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:46,157 faking being Filipino, you know, so... 1023 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:49,816 Didn't have a gold tooth and it was all, um... 1024 00:45:52,335 --> 00:45:54,821 I used to get nervous before I went on stage 1025 00:45:54,924 --> 00:45:56,167 in the early days. 1026 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:57,523 And Tommy didn't make it any easier 1027 00:45:57,547 --> 00:45:59,101 when he would announce 1028 00:45:59,204 --> 00:46:01,689 that I was dodging the draft and wanted by the FBI. 1029 00:46:01,793 --> 00:46:03,174 He thought it was funny. 1030 00:46:03,277 --> 00:46:05,555 I didn't think it was so funny. 1031 00:46:05,659 --> 00:46:07,730 Comedians back in the day, 1032 00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:09,594 they were treated like dirt. 1033 00:46:09,697 --> 00:46:11,354 They weren't respected. 1034 00:46:11,458 --> 00:46:14,495 They respected the stripper that brought in the people, 1035 00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:16,670 but they never had no respect for a guy 1036 00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:18,741 that was trying to make everybody laugh. 1037 00:46:19,328 --> 00:46:23,297 When you first start off with comedy, you write a set. 1038 00:46:23,401 --> 00:46:26,438 Six months later, y-you need a new set. 1039 00:46:26,542 --> 00:46:27,923 And it never stops. 1040 00:46:28,026 --> 00:46:30,201 And you just keep digging and digging and digging. 1041 00:46:30,304 --> 00:46:31,996 It's like working in a coal mine. 1042 00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:35,206 Well, y-you shit your pants or something? 1043 00:46:36,276 --> 00:46:39,727 Yeah, yeah, I shit my pants, man. 1044 00:46:39,831 --> 00:46:41,153 Well, why the hell don't you go home 1045 00:46:41,177 --> 00:46:43,007 and change them, for Christ's sake? 1046 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,250 I'm not done yet, man. 1047 00:46:48,012 --> 00:46:51,360 Drama is cumulative and pays off at the end. 1048 00:46:51,463 --> 00:46:52,982 Comedy is joke by joke. 1049 00:46:53,086 --> 00:46:55,053 It's like playing the slot machines. 1050 00:46:55,157 --> 00:46:57,090 One nickel in, two nickels out. 1051 00:46:57,193 --> 00:47:00,334 I had been through the Chitlin' Circuit 1052 00:47:00,438 --> 00:47:02,026 with a Motown band. 1053 00:47:02,129 --> 00:47:03,579 It's a very hard life. 1054 00:47:03,682 --> 00:47:08,480 But being a comedian was such a huge step. 1055 00:47:08,584 --> 00:47:09,861 We weren't going to give up. 1056 00:47:11,104 --> 00:47:13,037 The only mode of transportation we had 1057 00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:15,039 was Tommy's Honda 90. 1058 00:47:15,142 --> 00:47:16,834 So, to go to a gig, 1059 00:47:16,937 --> 00:47:18,939 we would take all of our costumes 1060 00:47:19,043 --> 00:47:20,458 and put them on at the same time, 1061 00:47:20,561 --> 00:47:22,805 three or four coats, couple pairs of pants, 1062 00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:24,565 tie shoes around our neck, 1063 00:47:24,669 --> 00:47:26,429 have three or four hats on at the same time, 1064 00:47:26,533 --> 00:47:28,949 and tool around from L.A. to Pasadena, 1065 00:47:29,053 --> 00:47:30,986 Santa Monica to Hermosa Beach. 1066 00:47:31,089 --> 00:47:34,196 "Oh, it's those two guys on the Honda 90." 1067 00:47:34,299 --> 00:47:35,853 They never had comedy clubs then. 1068 00:47:35,956 --> 00:47:37,475 It was just the soul clubs. 1069 00:47:37,578 --> 00:47:40,409 We opened for every major Black act 1070 00:47:40,512 --> 00:47:41,410 that came through L.A. 1071 00:47:41,513 --> 00:47:43,205 The Isley Brothers. 1072 00:47:43,308 --> 00:47:45,690 Ray Charles. Edwin Starr. 1073 00:47:45,793 --> 00:47:48,451 The Chi-Lites. The Delfonics. 1074 00:47:48,555 --> 00:47:51,006 Our act became very Black at the time, 1075 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:53,077 but it was half Black, half marijuana, 1076 00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:54,975 which was half Black anyways. 1077 00:47:56,356 --> 00:47:58,358 Hey, give me some more of that. 1078 00:47:58,461 --> 00:48:01,050 I don't feel nothing, man. 1079 00:48:01,154 --> 00:48:02,741 Hey, neither do I, man. 1080 00:48:02,845 --> 00:48:04,640 Takes a lot to get me stoned, man. 1081 00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,092 Hey, why don't you turn on the radio? 1082 00:48:08,195 --> 00:48:09,921 It's been on, man. 1083 00:48:12,165 --> 00:48:13,891 Right away, as soon as we did 1084 00:48:13,994 --> 00:48:16,583 our first drug joke, we know, hey, these people get this. 1085 00:48:16,686 --> 00:48:18,205 This is what they really laugh at. 1086 00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:21,208 So we said, "Oh, let's kind of do some more of that." 1087 00:48:22,969 --> 00:48:25,488 You go first. 1088 00:48:28,077 --> 00:48:29,596 Hello, ladies. 1089 00:48:29,699 --> 00:48:32,254 We're doing the Playboy interview. 1090 00:48:32,357 --> 00:48:34,290 Let's speak a bit about influence, okay? 1091 00:48:34,394 --> 00:48:36,879 - Influences. Okay. - We have two. 1092 00:48:38,087 --> 00:48:39,330 Sex and drugs. 1093 00:48:39,433 --> 00:48:40,607 Sex and drugs. 1094 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:41,953 What about The Committee? 1095 00:48:42,057 --> 00:48:43,299 Oh. Love 'em. 1096 00:48:43,403 --> 00:48:44,818 - Yeah. - I love 'em. 1097 00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:46,482 They hated us, but I love them to death. 1098 00:48:46,578 --> 00:48:47,959 Wh-Why? They said that you 1099 00:48:48,063 --> 00:48:49,616 took their routines or something? 1100 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,205 - We did. We sure did. - We took everybody's. 1101 00:48:52,308 --> 00:48:54,172 I-I took, borrowed some of the bits 1102 00:48:54,276 --> 00:48:55,518 that they used to do. 1103 00:48:55,622 --> 00:48:57,210 Even though I can remember everything, 1104 00:48:57,313 --> 00:48:58,797 we had to do it, you know, 1105 00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:00,523 Mexican/Chinese style, you know? 1106 00:49:00,627 --> 00:49:03,975 And so they changed and we just added our own characters, 1107 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,873 but we used their situations, you know? 1108 00:49:05,977 --> 00:49:07,299 Because when you're out there performing, 1109 00:49:07,323 --> 00:49:08,783 you'll use anything, you know? Pryor... 1110 00:49:08,807 --> 00:49:10,095 Yeah, Richard Pryor used to do Bill Cosby. 1111 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:11,569 Bill Cosby routines, you know? 1112 00:49:11,672 --> 00:49:13,340 You start... you start somewhere, you know? 1113 00:49:13,364 --> 00:49:15,400 And so, uh, but what happened with The Committee 1114 00:49:15,504 --> 00:49:18,990 is that they just stayed in this one little, uh, theater 1115 00:49:19,094 --> 00:49:20,267 and they never ventured out. 1116 00:49:20,371 --> 00:49:22,373 So, when we started venturing around, 1117 00:49:22,476 --> 00:49:24,720 - their bits become our bits. - Right. 1118 00:49:33,487 --> 00:49:35,006 So, two things happened. 1119 00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,430 They got really bugged at the fact 1120 00:49:36,490 --> 00:49:38,285 that we were doing their bits. 1121 00:49:38,389 --> 00:49:40,091 And then they got more bugged when they found out 1122 00:49:40,115 --> 00:49:41,435 that they couldn't do them anymore 1123 00:49:41,495 --> 00:49:42,886 because everybody thought they were doing 1124 00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:45,016 - Cheech & Chong bits. - Yeah. 1125 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,985 So they really didn't like us very much. 1126 00:49:54,025 --> 00:49:55,199 Herbie! 1127 00:49:55,302 --> 00:49:56,752 - Hey, how are you? - How are you? 1128 00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:06,037 - Hey, you're looking good, man. - Hey. 1129 00:50:06,141 --> 00:50:08,522 Hey, I like your haircut. That's a nice one. 1130 00:50:08,626 --> 00:50:10,386 Oh, you like it? It's a Farrah Fawcett, man. 1131 00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:12,147 How's it look? 1132 00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:14,080 I mean, the dogs was an exercise 1133 00:50:14,183 --> 00:50:16,185 out ofAn Actor Improvises. 1134 00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:19,257 Be a leaf or a strip of bacon or an animal. 1135 00:50:19,361 --> 00:50:20,914 And they were just basic stuff. 1136 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:22,950 When we did it, we created characters 1137 00:50:23,054 --> 00:50:25,505 for those... for those dogs and the things they were doing. 1138 00:50:25,608 --> 00:50:28,301 And we weren't afraid to get gross with them. 1139 00:50:28,887 --> 00:50:31,787 Comedians are very touchy about bits. 1140 00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:35,480 But a good joke is shared, you know, it's passed on. 1141 00:50:35,584 --> 00:50:38,000 And so no one really cares about the pedigree 1142 00:50:38,104 --> 00:50:40,485 of the material, as long as it's funny. 1143 00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:42,798 I'd like to congratulate you on your new show. 1144 00:50:42,901 --> 00:50:46,043 I want... I want to wish you every luck on your jokes. 1145 00:50:46,146 --> 00:50:48,286 Every Friday night, all the luck in the world. 1146 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:50,750 Well, thank you. That depends on your jokes Wednesday night. 1147 00:50:52,118 --> 00:50:53,533 Every standup comedian 1148 00:50:53,636 --> 00:50:56,846 has a rivalry with every other standup comedian. 1149 00:50:59,539 --> 00:51:01,299 If you're talking about the same subjects, 1150 00:51:01,403 --> 00:51:03,370 they're gonna obviously overlap. 1151 00:51:03,474 --> 00:51:07,236 What you do, eventually, is you evolve your own voice. 1152 00:51:07,340 --> 00:51:11,171 The only thing you have as an artist is what you see. 1153 00:51:11,275 --> 00:51:13,691 Which is different from everybody else. 1154 00:51:14,209 --> 00:51:15,658 I started working on this character, 1155 00:51:15,762 --> 00:51:18,040 then all of a sudden, my mind clicked into a guy 1156 00:51:18,144 --> 00:51:19,352 that picked me up hitchhiking. 1157 00:51:19,455 --> 00:51:20,846 And I just remembered his rap, he says, 1158 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:22,503 "Yeah, man, I work like a donkey, you know?" 1159 00:51:22,527 --> 00:51:23,927 "Hey, man, I don't have to graduate. 1160 00:51:23,977 --> 00:51:25,392 I can go in the service, you know?" 1161 00:51:25,496 --> 00:51:26,704 And that was his attitude. 1162 00:51:26,807 --> 00:51:28,740 In the middle of a sentence, he'd be looking, 1163 00:51:28,844 --> 00:51:31,329 "Ooh, look at that chick, ooh. 1164 00:51:31,433 --> 00:51:33,055 Saw too much." 1165 00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:34,377 And the essence of his character 1166 00:51:34,401 --> 00:51:35,758 was cruising and looking at chicks, 1167 00:51:35,782 --> 00:51:37,370 and it was easy from there. 1168 00:51:37,473 --> 00:51:40,683 Chinga, chinga, chinga, chinga, chinga. 1169 00:51:40,787 --> 00:51:43,100 Chinga, chinga, chinga, chinga, chinga. 1170 00:51:43,203 --> 00:51:44,998 Chinga, cabrón, cabrón, cabrón, 1171 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:47,759 cabrón, cabrón, cabrón, cabrón, cabrón. 1172 00:51:47,863 --> 00:51:49,485 Cabrón. 1173 00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:53,627 Puta, puta, puta, puta, puta, puta, puta, puta, puta, puta. 1174 00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:57,597 So few Latins make it into show business, 1175 00:51:57,700 --> 00:51:58,805 into the mainstream. 1176 00:51:58,908 --> 00:52:00,186 Do you ever feel any heat 1177 00:52:00,289 --> 00:52:02,153 because the character is a negative character? 1178 00:52:02,257 --> 00:52:03,775 He's not a negative character. 1179 00:52:03,879 --> 00:52:05,708 He's a very positive character, actually. 1180 00:52:05,812 --> 00:52:07,572 People would say he's a negative character 1181 00:52:07,676 --> 00:52:09,412 because he gets loaded, likes chicks, cruises around, 1182 00:52:09,436 --> 00:52:10,756 but anybody who doesn't see that 1183 00:52:10,817 --> 00:52:12,174 as what's happening in the streets 1184 00:52:12,198 --> 00:52:13,613 got their head in the sand. 1185 00:52:13,716 --> 00:52:15,960 Why he gets by is because he's innocent. 1186 00:52:16,063 --> 00:52:17,789 God protects fools and children. 1187 00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:18,997 And he's both. 1188 00:52:22,691 --> 00:52:24,520 The thing about roasting a chicken 1189 00:52:24,624 --> 00:52:27,489 is if you know exactly what temperature your oven is at, 1190 00:52:27,592 --> 00:52:29,272 well, then you can come out with a chicken 1191 00:52:29,353 --> 00:52:31,286 that's like chicken marbella. 1192 00:52:31,389 --> 00:52:37,430 You make it with olives, capers, onions, prunes. 1193 00:52:42,262 --> 00:52:45,921 Yeah. Chill. Well, just think about it. 1194 00:52:46,611 --> 00:52:50,581 I was running myself ragged between two families. 1195 00:52:50,684 --> 00:52:53,273 Scooting back and forth from my soul family 1196 00:52:53,377 --> 00:52:55,551 to my white family. 1197 00:52:55,655 --> 00:52:58,554 One night, coming home to Maxine's house, 1198 00:52:58,658 --> 00:53:00,867 I found my wallet was missing. 1199 00:53:00,970 --> 00:53:02,455 I had been pickpocketed. 1200 00:53:02,558 --> 00:53:04,905 Maxine had enough of me by then. 1201 00:53:05,009 --> 00:53:07,287 It was just too much for her, and she told me, 1202 00:53:07,391 --> 00:53:10,566 "Just go. Just-just go." You know? 1203 00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:13,500 "It's not working." And it wasn't working. 1204 00:53:16,193 --> 00:53:19,713 That's where my life with Shelby officially began. 1205 00:53:21,301 --> 00:53:22,785 Now, tell me about your lady. 1206 00:53:22,889 --> 00:53:24,718 Are you ever gonna get married to this lady? 1207 00:53:24,822 --> 00:53:26,651 Well, she told me she'd marry me 1208 00:53:26,755 --> 00:53:29,033 when she turns 40 or I become a millionaire. 1209 00:53:29,136 --> 00:53:31,045 Well, I think the wedding bells are ringing, my dear. 1210 00:53:31,069 --> 00:53:33,762 No. Not according to our accountant. 1211 00:53:33,865 --> 00:53:36,282 No, what it is, it'll be when I get a million. 1212 00:53:36,385 --> 00:53:38,456 Because I don't think she'll ever turn 40. 1213 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,847 I don't think she ever will, either. 1214 00:53:39,871 --> 00:53:41,271 Living with you will keep her young. 1215 00:53:42,771 --> 00:53:45,083 - You guys drove right by me! - What? 1216 00:53:45,187 --> 00:53:46,292 Shit. 1217 00:53:46,395 --> 00:53:47,845 We didn't see you, honey. 1218 00:53:47,948 --> 00:53:49,743 Oh, you're stoned. 1219 00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:51,883 You're stoned. 1220 00:53:51,987 --> 00:53:53,195 Now you're gonna 1221 00:53:53,299 --> 00:53:55,646 - fuck things up with Dave. - Whoa. 1222 00:53:55,749 --> 00:53:57,889 Well, look how beautiful you look. 1223 00:53:57,993 --> 00:54:00,202 Whoa. 1224 00:54:00,306 --> 00:54:02,549 The old stoned charmer. 1225 00:54:03,378 --> 00:54:05,932 Yeah. Wow. 1226 00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:08,555 Where we going? 1227 00:54:13,146 --> 00:54:17,046 Hootenanny Night was an invention by the white clubs 1228 00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:18,669 to get you to play for free. 1229 00:54:18,772 --> 00:54:20,498 The first six acts that were there 1230 00:54:20,602 --> 00:54:22,707 when the club opened at 6:00 1231 00:54:22,811 --> 00:54:25,952 could go on that night in reverse order. 1232 00:54:26,504 --> 00:54:28,299 The funniest thing is the government, 1233 00:54:28,403 --> 00:54:30,139 the changes they go through trying to find out 1234 00:54:30,163 --> 00:54:31,751 who junkies are, man. 1235 00:54:31,854 --> 00:54:33,522 And that's the easiest thing in the world in the Army. 1236 00:54:33,546 --> 00:54:35,375 All you have to do is take roll call. 1237 00:54:35,479 --> 00:54:36,928 "Johnson." "Sir!" 1238 00:54:37,032 --> 00:54:38,620 "Henderson." "Sir!" 1239 00:54:38,723 --> 00:54:41,174 "Rodriguez." "Right here, man." 1240 00:54:42,865 --> 00:54:43,935 "Here." 1241 00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,560 We take you now inside Vietnam. 1242 00:54:47,663 --> 00:54:49,182 "All right, men, huddle up. 1243 00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:50,701 "Huddle up, boys. 1244 00:54:50,804 --> 00:54:52,195 "You been complaining, haven't had a change 1245 00:54:52,219 --> 00:54:54,118 "of underwear in six months? 1246 00:54:54,221 --> 00:54:55,706 "We'll take care of that right now. 1247 00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:58,295 "Johnson, you change with Gonzalez. 1248 00:54:58,398 --> 00:54:59,848 "Henderson, you change with Smith. 1249 00:54:59,951 --> 00:55:01,263 All right? All right." 1250 00:55:04,059 --> 00:55:06,095 After the show at the Troubadour, 1251 00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:07,580 some woman came up and said, 1252 00:55:07,683 --> 00:55:09,340 "Lou Adler was in the crowd tonight 1253 00:55:09,444 --> 00:55:11,894 and he wants to meet you guys at his office." 1254 00:55:11,998 --> 00:55:13,803 I told Tommy. He didn't know who Lou Adler was. 1255 00:55:13,827 --> 00:55:15,726 No, I had no idea who Lou Adler... 1256 00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:18,142 And of course Cheech schooled me. 1257 00:55:18,245 --> 00:55:19,730 Lou Adler. 1258 00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:22,077 Lou Adler is one of the world's great record producers. 1259 00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:24,838 At the time, he was the biggest record producer in the world. 1260 00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:27,531 He was a big deal and he was well known in the business. 1261 00:55:27,634 --> 00:55:29,567 He grew up in Boyle Heights, 1262 00:55:29,671 --> 00:55:32,087 which was the Jewish section of East L.A. 1263 00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:34,503 And he recognized the characters that we were doing. 1264 00:55:34,607 --> 00:55:36,263 Cheech said he's the guy that produced 1265 00:55:36,367 --> 00:55:39,577 that record you love, the Carole KingTapestry album. 1266 00:55:39,681 --> 00:55:42,131 And I said "whoa" right there. 1267 00:55:42,235 --> 00:55:43,616 And then he told me 1268 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,583 that Lou produced the Mamas & the Papas 1269 00:55:45,687 --> 00:55:48,552 and he had, uh, Sam Cooke and... 1270 00:55:48,655 --> 00:55:50,208 He was like one of the top... 1271 00:55:50,312 --> 00:55:52,141 He owned his own record company. 1272 00:55:52,245 --> 00:55:53,798 That's how... how big Lou was. 1273 00:55:53,902 --> 00:55:56,180 We go in there and there's, like, gold records 1274 00:55:56,283 --> 00:55:57,699 everywhere on the walls. 1275 00:55:57,802 --> 00:55:59,602 He says, "Well, what do you guys want to do?" 1276 00:55:59,666 --> 00:56:01,461 "Well, make a record, I guess." 1277 00:56:01,565 --> 00:56:02,807 "Well, what kind?" 1278 00:56:02,911 --> 00:56:05,292 "Um, gold, uh, seems to be what you make, 1279 00:56:05,396 --> 00:56:06,639 so let's make a gold record." 1280 00:56:06,742 --> 00:56:08,606 He was very nice, he said he enjoyed the show, 1281 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:10,953 but he was very quiet. He hardly spoke. 1282 00:56:11,057 --> 00:56:13,680 And so he said, "Okay, well, what do you need?" 1283 00:56:13,784 --> 00:56:16,373 I said, "$1,000," and Lou was ready to write the check. 1284 00:56:16,476 --> 00:56:18,133 And I go, "Wait a minute, Mr. Adler. 1285 00:56:18,236 --> 00:56:20,963 Uh, there's two of us, so we'll need $2,000." 1286 00:56:21,067 --> 00:56:24,035 And I said, "I want a little tape recorder." 1287 00:56:24,139 --> 00:56:26,452 We got the tape recorder and the money... 1288 00:56:27,936 --> 00:56:30,041 And signed a deal right then. 1289 00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:39,396 The first time we went into the studio, 1290 00:56:39,499 --> 00:56:41,363 we didn't have any idea how to do it 1291 00:56:41,467 --> 00:56:43,123 or what we were gonna do. 1292 00:56:43,227 --> 00:56:45,436 And we said, "Well, we'll just set up a couple chairs 1293 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:47,611 "and set up some mics and we'll do our thing, 1294 00:56:47,714 --> 00:56:49,440 and it'll be fine." 1295 00:56:49,544 --> 00:56:50,648 And it was a bomb. 1296 00:56:50,752 --> 00:56:52,374 It was like nothing, no reaction, 1297 00:56:52,478 --> 00:56:53,789 there was nobody to react to. 1298 00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,343 And so we didn't... "Ugh, that was terrible." 1299 00:56:56,447 --> 00:57:02,004 What we had to learn was how to make things sound funny. 1300 00:57:02,108 --> 00:57:04,628 'Cause we were a visual act. We could look funny 1301 00:57:04,731 --> 00:57:06,526 and make faces and... 1302 00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:07,803 and act it out, 1303 00:57:07,907 --> 00:57:10,288 but that didn't translate to record. 1304 00:57:10,392 --> 00:57:12,532 So, we used this little mixdown room 1305 00:57:12,636 --> 00:57:14,672 to rehearse in. 1306 00:57:14,776 --> 00:57:16,916 And we created our-our first record. 1307 00:57:17,019 --> 00:57:18,676 By accident. 1308 00:57:19,919 --> 00:57:23,060 Creativity is inherently fraught 1309 00:57:23,163 --> 00:57:24,855 with conflict and tension. 1310 00:57:24,958 --> 00:57:27,616 Especially if you're talking about two guys. 1311 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,640 What I think is funny and what you think is funny 1312 00:57:29,722 --> 00:57:31,551 and-and what the audience thinks is funny 1313 00:57:31,655 --> 00:57:33,933 and... but we're in the studio, we had no audience, 1314 00:57:34,036 --> 00:57:38,489 so we had to finally kind of come together to agree 1315 00:57:38,593 --> 00:57:41,250 on what was funny, and the criterion was 1316 00:57:41,354 --> 00:57:42,597 it had to make us laugh. 1317 00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:44,495 Cheech put on all his costume. 1318 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,532 He was a very method actor. 1319 00:57:46,635 --> 00:57:47,740 And he went outside. 1320 00:57:47,843 --> 00:57:49,062 He was gonna play a dope dealer, 1321 00:57:49,086 --> 00:57:50,501 and he was gonna knock on the door, 1322 00:57:50,605 --> 00:57:52,089 and I was gonna let him in. 1323 00:57:52,192 --> 00:57:54,816 Then we were gonna improv a, you know, a dope deal bit. 1324 00:57:54,919 --> 00:57:56,714 It was like 110 degrees outside. 1325 00:57:56,818 --> 00:57:58,336 It was in the middle of August. 1326 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,004 And I'm inside, and it's air-conditioned. 1327 00:58:00,028 --> 00:58:01,201 It's beautiful. 1328 00:58:01,305 --> 00:58:04,066 And I got the little tape recorder set up. 1329 00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:06,241 And then Cheech knocked. 1330 00:58:06,344 --> 00:58:10,072 And when he knocked, my eyes immediately went to the door. 1331 00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:13,144 And so I couldn't see if the needle moved or not. 1332 00:58:13,248 --> 00:58:14,525 No answer. 1333 00:58:14,629 --> 00:58:16,803 And so now I'm looking at the tape recorder 1334 00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:19,426 wondering, "Did that record or not?" 1335 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:20,427 He knocks again. 1336 00:58:20,531 --> 00:58:22,291 And I saw the needle jump. 1337 00:58:22,395 --> 00:58:23,638 So, "Oh, it's recording." 1338 00:58:23,741 --> 00:58:26,261 And so I said, "Who is it?" 1339 00:58:26,364 --> 00:58:27,676 "Who... who is it?" 1340 00:58:27,780 --> 00:58:28,964 You're not supposed to say, "Who is it?" 1341 00:58:28,988 --> 00:58:30,748 You're supposed to say, "Come in." 1342 00:58:30,852 --> 00:58:32,692 I went into character. I-I just started improv-ing. 1343 00:58:32,716 --> 00:58:34,200 I go, "It's me, Dave." 1344 00:58:34,303 --> 00:58:37,203 And I go, "Dave?" And he goes, "Yeah, Dave." 1345 00:58:37,306 --> 00:58:39,170 He thinks I'm gonna open up the door. 1346 00:58:39,274 --> 00:58:40,931 And then I said, 1347 00:58:41,034 --> 00:58:42,726 "Dave's not here." 1348 00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:47,109 So now I realize I can torture the shit out of Cheech 1349 00:58:47,213 --> 00:58:49,974 by keeping him outside as long as I could. 1350 00:58:50,078 --> 00:58:52,632 And so I just sat there until he knocked again. 1351 00:58:52,736 --> 00:58:54,738 "No, it's me, Dave. D-A-V-E. 1352 00:58:54,841 --> 00:58:56,256 Open the door. I got the stuff." 1353 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,982 "Come on, quit fucking around. 1354 00:58:58,086 --> 00:59:00,191 It's hot out here, man." He's banging on the door. 1355 00:59:00,295 --> 00:59:04,333 And finally he opens the door, and he's laughing his ass off. 1356 00:59:04,437 --> 00:59:06,128 And he was really angry. 1357 00:59:06,232 --> 00:59:08,717 I thought he was gonna attack me or something. 1358 00:59:08,821 --> 00:59:10,719 So I said, "Listen, listen, listen." 1359 00:59:10,823 --> 00:59:12,928 We both cracked up. We both cracked up. 1360 00:59:13,032 --> 00:59:15,586 We played it again, cracked up even more. 1361 00:59:15,690 --> 00:59:17,933 We took it to Lou, and Lou heard it and he goes, 1362 00:59:18,037 --> 00:59:19,866 "Okay, we're recording that tonight." 1363 00:59:19,970 --> 00:59:23,525 Lou took the recording and shipped it 1364 00:59:23,629 --> 00:59:25,251 to all these radio stations. 1365 00:59:25,354 --> 00:59:27,667 And so the next morning, L.A. woke up to... 1366 00:59:31,291 --> 00:59:32,603 Who is it? 1367 00:59:32,707 --> 00:59:34,847 It's-it's Dave, man. 1368 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:36,065 Will you open up? I got the stuff with me. 1369 00:59:36,089 --> 00:59:37,504 - Who? - Dave, man. 1370 00:59:37,608 --> 00:59:39,092 - Open up. - Dave? 1371 00:59:39,196 --> 00:59:40,991 Yeah, Dave. Come on, man. Open up. 1372 00:59:41,094 --> 00:59:43,752 - I think the cops saw me. - Dave's not here. 1373 00:59:47,963 --> 00:59:49,896 You sure we're going the right way? 1374 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,174 - Oh, I know where we are. - Where? 1375 00:59:52,278 --> 00:59:54,245 We're in the middle of fucking nowhere. 1376 00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:56,454 No, we're southwest of fucking nowhere. 1377 00:59:56,558 --> 00:59:58,215 We're not in the middle yet. 1378 00:59:58,318 --> 01:00:00,804 Oh, hey, let's ask this guy. 1379 01:00:03,427 --> 01:00:05,878 Excuse me. Hello. 1380 01:00:05,981 --> 01:00:08,397 Can you tell us how to get to the joint? 1381 01:00:08,501 --> 01:00:09,813 - Lou! - What the... 1382 01:00:09,916 --> 01:00:12,194 Tommy, Cheech. How are you guys? 1383 01:00:12,298 --> 01:00:14,265 We're good. What are you doing out here? 1384 01:00:14,369 --> 01:00:15,750 - I'm taking a walk. - Oh. 1385 01:00:15,853 --> 01:00:18,235 - Well, get in, man. Get in. - Oh. 1386 01:00:18,338 --> 01:00:21,341 - Let-let's talk, man. - We'll give you a ride. Lou! 1387 01:00:22,446 --> 01:00:24,103 I thought it was a mirage. 1388 01:00:24,206 --> 01:00:25,552 Okay. 1389 01:00:25,656 --> 01:00:27,900 Damn, boy. 1390 01:00:31,179 --> 01:00:33,422 Lou knows how much to produce 1391 01:00:33,526 --> 01:00:35,114 and how much not to produce. 1392 01:00:35,217 --> 01:00:37,703 He helped us creatively by giving approval 1393 01:00:37,806 --> 01:00:39,774 over what we were doing 1394 01:00:39,877 --> 01:00:41,845 'cause we were making up this method 1395 01:00:41,948 --> 01:00:43,916 as we were going along. 1396 01:00:44,502 --> 01:00:46,366 Cheech and I would show up at the studio, 1397 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:48,299 and we'd look at each other, and one of us 1398 01:00:48,403 --> 01:00:51,233 would say, "You hungry?" "Yeah, let's go have lunch." 1399 01:00:51,337 --> 01:00:54,512 We'd come back after a long lunch and light a joint. 1400 01:00:54,616 --> 01:00:57,792 Next thing you know, an idea would come in our head. 1401 01:00:57,895 --> 01:01:00,346 ♪ No stems, no seeds that you don't need ♪ 1402 01:01:00,449 --> 01:01:02,313 ♪ Acapulco Gold is 1403 01:01:03,901 --> 01:01:07,767 ♪ Badass weed. 1404 01:01:08,561 --> 01:01:10,459 Cut. 1405 01:01:10,563 --> 01:01:11,909 How'd that sound to you? 1406 01:01:12,013 --> 01:01:14,636 Hey, man, that was far out, man. 1407 01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:16,155 We got a cut, man. 1408 01:01:16,258 --> 01:01:17,984 Yeah, that-that sounded pretty good to me. 1409 01:01:18,088 --> 01:01:19,434 I think we could wrap it up. 1410 01:01:19,537 --> 01:01:20,815 Oh, hey, no, man. 1411 01:01:20,918 --> 01:01:22,644 No, I want to do it again, man. 1412 01:01:22,748 --> 01:01:24,025 - Again? - Yeah, man. 1413 01:01:24,128 --> 01:01:25,923 Like, I had a thing to do. 1414 01:01:26,027 --> 01:01:28,315 You know, when you talk, man. When a cat talks, I want to... 1415 01:01:28,339 --> 01:01:29,686 I got a thing to say, man. 1416 01:01:29,789 --> 01:01:31,653 I was gonna say it, but I forgot it, man. 1417 01:01:31,757 --> 01:01:33,482 - You want to do it again? - Yeah, man. 1418 01:01:33,586 --> 01:01:35,622 Let's do it again. 1419 01:01:35,726 --> 01:01:37,210 Okay. All right. 1420 01:01:37,314 --> 01:01:40,075 Hold it. Give me a joint, man. Give me another joint. 1421 01:01:40,904 --> 01:01:42,871 All right, far out, man. Okay. 1422 01:01:42,975 --> 01:01:44,746 -We'll get it right this time, man. -Yeah, okay. 1423 01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:45,954 All right, let's try it again, huh? 1424 01:01:45,978 --> 01:01:47,358 - Okay. - Ready? 1425 01:01:47,462 --> 01:01:49,809 Yeah. 1426 01:01:49,913 --> 01:01:53,157 "Acapulco Gold Filters," take 403. 1427 01:01:53,261 --> 01:01:55,608 We spent all our time in the studio 1428 01:01:55,712 --> 01:01:57,334 recording the first album. 1429 01:01:57,437 --> 01:02:00,406 Once it came out, we went on the road immediately. 1430 01:02:20,426 --> 01:02:24,119 Lou Adler got us visibility immediately. 1431 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,985 He had the balls to go to the limit. 1432 01:02:28,089 --> 01:02:30,712 And Cheech & Chong, in return, 1433 01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:33,335 gave him the products to work with. 1434 01:02:34,958 --> 01:02:37,512 ♪ Black Lassie 1435 01:02:37,615 --> 01:02:39,721 ♪ Fat and sassy 1436 01:02:40,308 --> 01:02:43,414 ♪ She was poor, but now she's rich... ♪ 1437 01:02:43,518 --> 01:02:46,832 He really became the pillar of our success. 1438 01:02:46,935 --> 01:02:48,937 It was a beautiful marriage. 1439 01:02:49,041 --> 01:02:51,284 Lou very carefully crafted 1440 01:02:51,388 --> 01:02:53,977 our public image so people knew the flavor 1441 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,255 of what they were gonna get. 1442 01:02:58,533 --> 01:03:01,432 You're about to meet the first Chinese American comedy team 1443 01:03:01,536 --> 01:03:02,917 in history. 1444 01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:04,642 I don't know which one is Chinese. 1445 01:03:04,746 --> 01:03:07,714 Will you welcome Cheech & Kong! 1446 01:03:07,818 --> 01:03:10,131 It's Cheech & Chong, first. 1447 01:03:10,234 --> 01:03:11,511 Chong. 1448 01:03:11,615 --> 01:03:13,651 Hey, man, what's happening? 1449 01:03:15,205 --> 01:03:17,379 Hey, man, this your amigo Sanchez de San Fernando 1450 01:03:17,483 --> 01:03:19,657 saying come on down to Wide Track Town 1451 01:03:19,761 --> 01:03:21,728 here in Wilmington, ese, man. 1452 01:03:21,832 --> 01:03:25,698 We got some out-of-sight chorts here for you to look at, man. 1453 01:03:25,802 --> 01:03:27,355 Look at this chort over here, man. 1454 01:03:27,458 --> 01:03:29,115 Now, that's a '53 Chevy 1455 01:03:29,219 --> 01:03:32,049 with pink and purple tuck and roll, man. 1456 01:03:33,637 --> 01:03:35,190 - Are you Chinese? - No, I'm Mexican. 1457 01:03:35,294 --> 01:03:36,674 You're Mexican. You're Chinese? 1458 01:03:36,778 --> 01:03:38,607 - No... Uh, yeah, I'm Chinese. - There... 1459 01:03:38,711 --> 01:03:41,196 Listen, there's something a little wrong in your bio. 1460 01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:43,612 - What-what is your nationality? - Chinese. 1461 01:03:43,716 --> 01:03:44,855 You really are? 1462 01:03:44,959 --> 01:03:45,970 - Canadian Chinese. - Canadian Chinese. 1463 01:03:45,994 --> 01:03:47,478 My father married a white woman. 1464 01:03:47,582 --> 01:03:49,860 That is really funny. 1465 01:03:52,242 --> 01:03:53,968 Already on the Billboard charts, 1466 01:03:54,071 --> 01:03:57,557 the new single from Cheech & Chong. 1467 01:03:59,939 --> 01:04:01,734 We were aware of our hit status 1468 01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,494 right at the beginning because we were 1469 01:04:03,598 --> 01:04:05,738 on the radio all the time. 1470 01:04:06,325 --> 01:04:08,154 Wherever we went, the album preceded us 1471 01:04:08,258 --> 01:04:11,261 by about a week, so there was this growing awareness 1472 01:04:11,364 --> 01:04:13,125 of this act that was very different. 1473 01:04:13,228 --> 01:04:16,093 Please welcome Cheech & Chong! 1474 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,132 We got up, we went to the airport, 1475 01:04:20,235 --> 01:04:22,030 got on a plane, did the show, 1476 01:04:22,134 --> 01:04:24,067 went to the next city and did the same thing. 1477 01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:26,655 It was just nonstop. 1478 01:04:29,244 --> 01:04:31,591 We wanted our albums to be funny 1479 01:04:31,695 --> 01:04:33,904 but conceptual at the same time. 1480 01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:36,320 Everything we did with the record, 1481 01:04:36,424 --> 01:04:38,875 you could enjoy with your imagination. 1482 01:04:42,188 --> 01:04:44,363 Hey, man, two more cars and we're there, man. 1483 01:04:44,466 --> 01:04:46,468 - Tell those guys to be quiet. - Hey, you guys, 1484 01:04:46,572 --> 01:04:47,849 be quiet, man. 1485 01:04:47,953 --> 01:04:51,128 We're almost at the ticket thing. 1486 01:04:51,232 --> 01:04:53,682 Come on, let's hear it for Sister Mary Elephant. 1487 01:04:53,786 --> 01:04:55,063 Here she is. 1488 01:04:55,167 --> 01:04:56,478 Class. 1489 01:04:56,582 --> 01:04:58,135 Class! 1490 01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,758 Shut up! Thank you. 1491 01:05:00,862 --> 01:05:04,072 The U.S. Open National Masturbation Champion 1492 01:05:04,176 --> 01:05:06,695 three years in a row, Harry Palms. 1493 01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:09,043 Come on out, Harry! 1494 01:05:09,146 --> 01:05:11,114 Tell us, how does it feel? 1495 01:05:11,217 --> 01:05:12,701 Sore. Oh. 1496 01:05:12,805 --> 01:05:14,703 Well, you get a little fucker about that big. 1497 01:05:14,807 --> 01:05:15,808 You get it? 1498 01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:19,950 Hey, Margaret, did you see that? 1499 01:05:20,054 --> 01:05:22,366 Ah, yow. 1500 01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:24,230 That was the greatest. 1501 01:05:24,334 --> 01:05:27,337 Two guys with a bag of Goodwill clothes and one roadie, 1502 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,580 making as much as big bands 1503 01:05:29,684 --> 01:05:31,341 with no overhead. 1504 01:05:31,444 --> 01:05:33,860 We were in that rock and roll life. 1505 01:05:33,964 --> 01:05:36,311 It was the Waikiki Bowl in Hawaii. 1506 01:05:36,415 --> 01:05:38,417 You're confusing the two. 1507 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,006 -No, no. -We never played it another time. 1508 01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:42,904 -The only time we played it was once. -We... 1509 01:05:43,008 --> 01:05:45,010 No, we played it about three times. 1510 01:05:45,113 --> 01:05:46,597 - Uh, three times now? - Maybe four. 1511 01:05:46,701 --> 01:05:47,944 Maybe four times. 1512 01:05:48,047 --> 01:05:49,669 - Four times we played it? - Yeah. 1513 01:05:49,773 --> 01:05:52,465 - We only played it once. - You only remember one. 1514 01:05:52,569 --> 01:05:54,260 I-I remember everything. 1515 01:05:54,364 --> 01:05:56,331 You don't. I wish you did, but you don't. 1516 01:05:56,435 --> 01:05:58,092 Oh, now you wish I did. 1517 01:05:58,195 --> 01:06:00,025 How do you know that we played it four times? 1518 01:06:00,128 --> 01:06:01,371 I was there. 1519 01:06:01,474 --> 01:06:03,787 If they were always getting along, 1520 01:06:03,890 --> 01:06:07,170 one of them wouldn't be necessary. 1521 01:06:07,722 --> 01:06:12,554 Tommy and Cheech were the first rock and roll comedians. 1522 01:06:12,658 --> 01:06:13,970 No doubt about it. 1523 01:06:14,073 --> 01:06:16,248 They opened for the Rolling Stones 1524 01:06:16,351 --> 01:06:19,976 in front of 20,000 people, doing comedy. 1525 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:21,253 It was at a little venue, 1526 01:06:21,356 --> 01:06:24,049 and then we came back to, uh, Waikiki. 1527 01:06:24,152 --> 01:06:25,774 What did you say, Lou? 1528 01:06:25,878 --> 01:06:27,293 - Uh, nothing, guys. - Okay. 1529 01:06:27,397 --> 01:06:29,640 And then, uh, we played the, uh, HIC again. 1530 01:06:29,744 --> 01:06:31,722 We sold out two shows there, remember, that one night? 1531 01:06:31,746 --> 01:06:33,782 Cheech & Chong 1532 01:06:33,886 --> 01:06:36,544 onEyewitness News. 1533 01:06:37,648 --> 01:06:39,340 In the lifestyle of each generation, 1534 01:06:39,443 --> 01:06:41,243 there's often a very close correlation between 1535 01:06:41,342 --> 01:06:43,137 its humor and its drugs. 1536 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,622 Well, for these two comedians, Cheech & Chong, 1537 01:06:45,725 --> 01:06:47,900 their humor revolves around marijuana. 1538 01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:51,041 Their first album has now won a coveted Gold Record award. 1539 01:06:51,145 --> 01:06:52,732 Their new album is calledBig Bambú, 1540 01:06:52,836 --> 01:06:54,803 and you don't even have to hear the album 1541 01:06:54,907 --> 01:06:56,357 to know its contents. 1542 01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:59,222 I asked if money and success might spoil them. 1543 01:06:59,325 --> 01:07:01,776 No, there's a lot of hippies in Los Angeles. 1544 01:07:01,879 --> 01:07:05,331 They pay to see us, and they support us, you know, so... 1545 01:07:05,435 --> 01:07:06,860 There's nothing wrong with money, you know? 1546 01:07:06,884 --> 01:07:08,241 - It's just how you use it. - Yeah. 1547 01:07:08,265 --> 01:07:09,985 Nothing, nothing greater than a rich hippie. 1548 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:11,980 The only complaint they'd had about the album was 1549 01:07:12,062 --> 01:07:14,961 that the giant rolling paper inside has no gum on the edge. 1550 01:07:15,065 --> 01:07:16,308 Someone said if it did, 1551 01:07:16,411 --> 01:07:17,999 they could roll two and a half ounces. 1552 01:07:18,103 --> 01:07:19,207 Roger? 1553 01:07:22,797 --> 01:07:26,628 ♪ They're busting folks in New York City ♪ 1554 01:07:26,732 --> 01:07:30,701 ♪ But not the evil bastards that they should ♪ 1555 01:07:30,805 --> 01:07:34,429 ♪ They're busting the dope smoking hippies ♪ 1556 01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:38,847 ♪ Along with the brothers and the others in the hood ♪ 1557 01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:41,264 ♪ Got to get it legal 1558 01:07:42,817 --> 01:07:45,509 ♪ Get marijuana legal now 1559 01:07:46,407 --> 01:07:49,686 ♪ Let's get it legal 1560 01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:53,241 ♪ And I don't care how. 1561 01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:55,726 We weren't political, by any means. 1562 01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:57,901 We didn't advocate one party over the other. 1563 01:07:58,004 --> 01:08:00,524 We were just kind of like street hippies that were like, 1564 01:08:00,628 --> 01:08:03,355 "Hey, we should have the right to get high, man." 1565 01:08:03,458 --> 01:08:05,288 And that's kind of about how deep 1566 01:08:05,391 --> 01:08:08,049 our political philosophy went. 1567 01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:10,810 My stance on weed legalization: 1568 01:08:10,914 --> 01:08:12,985 It should not only be legal. 1569 01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:16,092 It should be mandatory in some cases. 1570 01:08:16,195 --> 01:08:18,197 That's the way I look at it. 1571 01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:20,544 There should be some people that 1572 01:08:20,648 --> 01:08:24,203 should be forced to smoke a ton of pot. 1573 01:08:26,619 --> 01:08:29,898 All you people are all lit up, man. 1574 01:08:30,002 --> 01:08:31,486 You're usually lit up in the dark. 1575 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:33,971 They said, you know, we've got to cut our dope bits, 1576 01:08:34,075 --> 01:08:35,801 you know, so, um... 1577 01:08:35,904 --> 01:08:39,184 So, I mean, you know, really, seriously speaking, man. 1578 01:08:39,287 --> 01:08:42,048 I mean, how many... how many people here smoke grass? 1579 01:08:42,152 --> 01:08:44,361 How many? 1580 01:08:47,813 --> 01:08:50,126 About six. 1581 01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:52,921 That's a government survey. 1582 01:08:53,025 --> 01:08:55,614 Anybody here on acid tonight? 1583 01:09:06,418 --> 01:09:09,593 Drugs were really our off-duty hours. 1584 01:09:09,697 --> 01:09:12,424 But when we're off hours and we want to get high, 1585 01:09:12,527 --> 01:09:14,322 maybe think of something funny... 1586 01:09:14,426 --> 01:09:17,049 Oh, I can do that tomorrow when I have to go to work 1587 01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:20,121 and be straight about it but act high. 1588 01:09:20,225 --> 01:09:22,744 May I have your name and age? 1589 01:09:23,331 --> 01:09:25,644 - May I have your name and age? - Oh, hi, hey. 1590 01:09:25,747 --> 01:09:27,818 Uh, uh... 1591 01:09:27,922 --> 01:09:29,924 What? 1592 01:09:30,994 --> 01:09:32,375 It always astounded me, 1593 01:09:32,478 --> 01:09:34,273 why isn't everybody doing dope jokes? 1594 01:09:34,377 --> 01:09:35,895 They're smoking dope. 1595 01:09:35,999 --> 01:09:38,346 I guess for some of those comedians, it was too obvious. 1596 01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:41,556 It was too "Yeah, well, everybody's doing that." 1597 01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:43,834 Well, in fact, nobody was doing that. 1598 01:09:43,938 --> 01:09:46,182 So we were the first ones, and we, in effect, 1599 01:09:46,285 --> 01:09:48,045 stole home plate. 1600 01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:49,840 Would I be blowing your cover 1601 01:09:49,944 --> 01:09:51,256 if I told everyone that you 1602 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:53,359 really aren't into drugs, that you're both athletes 1603 01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:56,019 and that drugs are just something that you joke about 1604 01:09:56,122 --> 01:09:57,607 that you don't do very much of? 1605 01:09:57,710 --> 01:10:00,403 -No we, we, um... -No, no, we-we do drugs all the time. 1606 01:10:00,506 --> 01:10:03,544 We mainline seeds and stems, um... and, um... 1607 01:10:03,647 --> 01:10:05,339 We don't lift weights or anything. 1608 01:10:05,442 --> 01:10:07,306 No, we don't run all the time or, you know, 1609 01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:09,170 tai chi or nothing. 1610 01:10:09,274 --> 01:10:10,620 But the fact is both Cheech Marin 1611 01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:13,864 and Tommy Chong are straighter than most. 1612 01:10:13,968 --> 01:10:15,763 And I spent long hours with both of them 1613 01:10:15,866 --> 01:10:17,986 running along one of the few remaining Malibu beaches 1614 01:10:18,041 --> 01:10:21,458 that still hasn't been turned into asphalt. 1615 01:10:22,908 --> 01:10:24,875 We were just California guys 1616 01:10:24,979 --> 01:10:27,050 and we worked out, but we smoked 1617 01:10:27,153 --> 01:10:29,535 as much dope as anybody else. 1618 01:10:30,087 --> 01:10:33,608 There was this interesting dichotomy that we revealed. 1619 01:10:34,782 --> 01:10:36,439 What about the first time 1620 01:10:36,542 --> 01:10:37,822 you did other drugs, like acid? 1621 01:10:37,923 --> 01:10:39,925 Yeah, it was about '68. I remember. 1622 01:10:40,028 --> 01:10:42,445 It was, it was when it was called "try this," you know. 1623 01:10:42,548 --> 01:10:44,412 - Try this, yeah. - As a matter of fact, 1624 01:10:44,516 --> 01:10:46,311 I was just with Timothy Leary last night, 1625 01:10:46,414 --> 01:10:48,174 and-and they laid some acid on me. 1626 01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:50,418 And this is real acid. 1627 01:10:50,522 --> 01:10:52,213 Oh, that's good acid, too. Blue Blotter. 1628 01:10:52,317 --> 01:10:54,215 And you only need a little bit. 1629 01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:57,805 I still take acid occasionally, about every six months or so. 1630 01:10:57,908 --> 01:11:00,290 It's like a cosmic colonic. 1631 01:11:00,394 --> 01:11:02,603 You know? No, I'm... I'm being very serious now, 1632 01:11:02,706 --> 01:11:04,432 because I-I take it every once in a while 1633 01:11:04,536 --> 01:11:06,917 just to kind of... you need something to jolt you 1634 01:11:07,021 --> 01:11:08,264 out of wherever you are. 1635 01:11:08,367 --> 01:11:10,714 We advocate the friendly drugs, you know, 1636 01:11:10,818 --> 01:11:13,165 like, uh, when you say "turn on" somebody, 1637 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:14,649 that's sort of a-a positive thing. 1638 01:11:14,753 --> 01:11:16,306 And you want to say "get high." 1639 01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:18,895 That's another uplifting, positive thing. 1640 01:11:18,998 --> 01:11:22,588 And it's a recreational drug, which is also positive. 1641 01:11:22,692 --> 01:11:25,315 And we've done our own independent drug research. 1642 01:11:27,144 --> 01:11:28,629 - Which is ongoing, you know. - Yes. 1643 01:11:28,732 --> 01:11:31,183 -We got a, we got a grant from Colombia. -Yeah. 1644 01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:34,704 We think we're right. 1645 01:11:34,807 --> 01:11:36,153 Only time will tell. 1646 01:11:36,257 --> 01:11:37,257 Yes. 1647 01:11:39,571 --> 01:11:43,333 There's more verses, but I can't remember 'em right now. 1648 01:11:46,647 --> 01:11:49,097 In the category of Best Comedy Recordings, 1649 01:11:49,201 --> 01:11:50,789 the nominees are 1650 01:11:50,892 --> 01:11:53,205 Lily Tomlin, 1651 01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:57,071 Bill Cosby, Cheech & Chong. 1652 01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:05,424 "Basketball Jones." 1653 01:12:05,528 --> 01:12:07,392 A-one, two, three, four. 1654 01:12:23,856 --> 01:12:28,516 ♪ Yes, I'm the victim of a Basketball Jones ♪ 1655 01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:30,898 ♪ Ever since I was a little baby ♪ 1656 01:12:31,001 --> 01:12:33,349 ♪ I always be dribblin' 1657 01:12:33,452 --> 01:12:35,454 ♪ In fact, I was the baddest dribbler ♪ 1658 01:12:35,558 --> 01:12:37,076 ♪ In the whole neighborhood... 1659 01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:39,320 "Basketball Jones." 1660 01:12:39,424 --> 01:12:41,253 That started off as a fun ride 1661 01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:44,290 with, uh, Jack Nicholson to the Laker game. 1662 01:12:44,394 --> 01:12:46,120 Lou invited us, 1663 01:12:46,223 --> 01:12:48,502 and Jack Nicholson's an out-of-control driver. 1664 01:12:51,746 --> 01:12:53,679 He's got his own rules. 1665 01:12:53,783 --> 01:12:55,750 When Cheech gets nervous, he starts singing. 1666 01:12:57,373 --> 01:12:58,581 This song comes on the radio 1667 01:12:58,684 --> 01:13:00,065 called "Love Jones." 1668 01:13:00,168 --> 01:13:02,067 I started going... ♪ Basketball Jones 1669 01:13:02,170 --> 01:13:03,724 ♪ I got a Basketball Jones. 1670 01:13:03,827 --> 01:13:06,865 I immediately start writing the lyrics. 1671 01:13:06,968 --> 01:13:09,730 The next day, Tommy said, "Let's record that." 1672 01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:18,946 We showed Lou. 1673 01:13:19,049 --> 01:13:22,984 He said, "Let's do it." 1674 01:13:23,537 --> 01:13:25,470 We always use what's in front of us, 1675 01:13:25,573 --> 01:13:27,989 and because of Lou Adler, we got access 1676 01:13:28,093 --> 01:13:30,129 to the best musicians in the world. 1677 01:13:30,233 --> 01:13:31,648 It just so happens, 1678 01:13:31,752 --> 01:13:33,374 in the next studio was George Harrison, 1679 01:13:33,478 --> 01:13:35,756 Billy Preston and Carole King. 1680 01:13:35,859 --> 01:13:37,734 So Lou goes over there, "Hey, George, can you come over 1681 01:13:37,758 --> 01:13:39,173 and-and play on this record?" 1682 01:13:39,276 --> 01:13:40,485 "Ooh, I'd be glad to." 1683 01:13:40,588 --> 01:13:43,246 ♪ Basketball Jones 1684 01:13:43,349 --> 01:13:46,767 ♪ I got a Basketball Jones 1685 01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:51,219 ♪ I got a Basketball Jones, oh, baby, ooh ♪ 1686 01:13:54,671 --> 01:13:56,293 ♪ Basketball Jones... 1687 01:13:56,397 --> 01:13:57,709 When Lou Adler did anything, 1688 01:13:57,812 --> 01:14:00,159 he did it first-class all the way. 1689 01:14:00,263 --> 01:14:03,956 He was a big part of our lives in so many ways. 1690 01:14:04,060 --> 01:14:05,993 He showed us class. 1691 01:14:06,096 --> 01:14:08,444 He showed us style. 1692 01:14:08,547 --> 01:14:10,446 And he took Cheech & Chong 1693 01:14:10,549 --> 01:14:13,241 right to the very, very top of the heap. 1694 01:14:13,345 --> 01:14:15,278 ♪ Basketball Jones 1695 01:14:15,381 --> 01:14:17,280 ♪ I got a Basketball Jones 1696 01:14:17,383 --> 01:14:22,112 ♪ Oh, baby, ooh. 1697 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:39,302 Touring was just nonstop, 1698 01:14:39,405 --> 01:14:41,960 and we needed a rest, 1699 01:14:42,063 --> 01:14:44,238 so I moved to the farthest part of Malibu 1700 01:14:44,341 --> 01:14:47,172 to get away from all the influences in Hollywood. 1701 01:14:48,932 --> 01:14:51,556 It would take three days for the world to stop spinning. 1702 01:14:51,659 --> 01:14:53,454 I just wanted to sit in my living room, 1703 01:14:53,558 --> 01:14:55,525 look out the window. 1704 01:14:56,319 --> 01:14:59,667 I was married to Rikki, and she was very supportive, 1705 01:14:59,771 --> 01:15:02,221 but it was hard when we had to travel. 1706 01:15:02,325 --> 01:15:04,983 Sometimes, we were absent from the house 1707 01:15:05,086 --> 01:15:08,262 for long periods of time, so that's always hard on a family. 1708 01:15:08,365 --> 01:15:11,403 Tommy and I always lived close to each other. 1709 01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:13,819 It was essential to our process because 1710 01:15:13,923 --> 01:15:16,028 there was this constant conversation 1711 01:15:16,132 --> 01:15:17,858 going on about the act. 1712 01:15:18,997 --> 01:15:20,723 Sitting in a studio 1713 01:15:20,826 --> 01:15:24,761 and making up funny bits, it was so much fun. 1714 01:15:24,865 --> 01:15:26,970 And after a while, it became a job, 1715 01:15:27,074 --> 01:15:29,939 and then we couldn't do it anymore. 1716 01:15:30,042 --> 01:15:32,666 We ran out of that record energy. 1717 01:15:34,184 --> 01:15:36,393 We told Lou that we were gonna 1718 01:15:36,497 --> 01:15:38,499 take time off and write a movie 1719 01:15:38,603 --> 01:15:40,605 'cause we wanted to do movies next. 1720 01:15:40,708 --> 01:15:42,089 He took a deep breath. 1721 01:15:42,192 --> 01:15:44,850 "Okay, well, I'll try to find you a deal." 1722 01:15:44,954 --> 01:15:49,165 ♪ They're gonna put me in the movies ♪ 1723 01:15:49,268 --> 01:15:53,687 ♪ Oh, they're gonna make a big star out of me ♪ 1724 01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:55,102 ♪ They're gonna make a scene 1725 01:15:55,205 --> 01:15:58,519 ♪ About a man that's sad and lonely ♪ 1726 01:15:58,623 --> 01:16:03,179 ♪ And all I got to do is act naturally. ♪ 1727 01:16:04,905 --> 01:16:06,665 The first pass of the script was called 1728 01:16:06,769 --> 01:16:09,012 "Cheech & Chong's Greatest Hits." 1729 01:16:09,116 --> 01:16:11,912 We handed Lou the script without any kind of 1730 01:16:12,015 --> 01:16:15,294 traditional first, second, third act structure. 1731 01:16:15,398 --> 01:16:17,849 We were gonna make this "day in the life" movies, 1732 01:16:17,952 --> 01:16:20,990 and that was far more interesting than plot. 1733 01:16:21,956 --> 01:16:24,027 What we very soon realized, 1734 01:16:24,131 --> 01:16:27,790 it really had to center on two characters from the act, 1735 01:16:27,893 --> 01:16:31,552 and the most obvious ones were Pedro and Man. 1736 01:16:32,139 --> 01:16:33,979 We took off a year at the height of our success, 1737 01:16:34,003 --> 01:16:35,314 and at the end of the year, 1738 01:16:35,418 --> 01:16:37,178 the deal for the movie didn't come together, 1739 01:16:37,282 --> 01:16:40,250 and Lou said, "I can't convince the studios 1740 01:16:40,354 --> 01:16:41,735 to see this vision," 1741 01:16:41,838 --> 01:16:44,496 even though he had produced a couple movies. 1742 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,015 The fact that you were 1743 01:16:46,118 --> 01:16:47,741 so successful withRocky Horror, 1744 01:16:47,844 --> 01:16:49,915 did that help you get people to... 1745 01:16:50,019 --> 01:16:52,055 The success of one film 1746 01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:55,749 doesn't necessarily give you the total financial backing 1747 01:16:55,852 --> 01:16:57,889 for another film. 1748 01:16:57,992 --> 01:17:01,409 I actually financed the film. 1749 01:17:01,513 --> 01:17:03,757 That's one way to get around it. 1750 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,458 ♪ All my friends 1751 01:17:15,561 --> 01:17:18,392 ♪ Know the low rider 1752 01:17:18,495 --> 01:17:19,495 ♪ Yeah 1753 01:17:19,565 --> 01:17:22,189 ♪ The low rider 1754 01:17:22,292 --> 01:17:25,157 ♪ Is a little higher 1755 01:17:25,261 --> 01:17:26,538 ♪ Yeah... 1756 01:17:26,642 --> 01:17:28,195 At some point in the process, 1757 01:17:28,298 --> 01:17:29,610 Lou explained to me that 1758 01:17:29,714 --> 01:17:31,612 he'd always wanted to direct a movie, 1759 01:17:31,716 --> 01:17:34,235 and this was his chance. 1760 01:17:34,339 --> 01:17:36,859 The only thing that was important to me 1761 01:17:36,962 --> 01:17:40,276 is that Tommy and I worked together to do the scenes. 1762 01:17:40,379 --> 01:17:43,451 I didn't care who the director said he was. 1763 01:17:43,555 --> 01:17:44,798 We knew that, 1764 01:17:44,901 --> 01:17:46,341 when we got in front of the cameras, 1765 01:17:46,385 --> 01:17:49,457 we were gonna do what we had to do, what we did. 1766 01:17:49,561 --> 01:17:52,598 We were Cheech & Chong. We're just gonna be funny. 1767 01:17:52,702 --> 01:17:56,119 Oh, what's that? She's hitchhiking. 1768 01:17:57,327 --> 01:18:00,434 Hey, watch out. Coming over. Geronimo! 1769 01:18:07,475 --> 01:18:09,374 Hey, Dubble Bubble. 1770 01:18:09,477 --> 01:18:12,135 Come on, baby, I'll give you a ride. Let's go. 1771 01:18:16,174 --> 01:18:18,141 - Hey, you ain't a chick. - Yeah, I know, 1772 01:18:18,245 --> 01:18:21,869 but listen, that's the only way I can get anybody to stop, man. 1773 01:18:21,973 --> 01:18:24,009 Hey, that's false advertising, that, man. 1774 01:18:24,113 --> 01:18:28,013 Oh, wow, I... Hey, I really like your car, man. 1775 01:18:28,117 --> 01:18:30,395 Those two guys, they belong together. 1776 01:18:30,498 --> 01:18:33,674 And from the time Man hopped into Pedro's car, 1777 01:18:33,778 --> 01:18:34,882 they were together. 1778 01:18:34,986 --> 01:18:37,298 Led Zeppelin, ooh. 1779 01:18:37,402 --> 01:18:39,542 Hey, be careful with that shit, man. 1780 01:18:39,645 --> 01:18:42,683 Oh, is it heavy stuff, man? 1781 01:18:42,787 --> 01:18:44,478 Will it blow me away? 1782 01:18:44,581 --> 01:18:47,274 Better put your seat belt on, man, I'll tell you that much. 1783 01:18:47,377 --> 01:18:49,552 Shit, I've been smoking since I was born, man. 1784 01:18:49,655 --> 01:18:51,554 I could smoke anything, man. 1785 01:18:51,657 --> 01:18:53,832 Like, I smoked that Michoacán, man, 1786 01:18:53,936 --> 01:18:55,731 Acapulco Gold, man. 1787 01:18:55,834 --> 01:18:57,802 I even smoked that tied stick, you know? 1788 01:18:57,905 --> 01:18:59,527 Tied stick? 1789 01:18:59,631 --> 01:19:00,770 Yeah. You know, that stuff 1790 01:19:00,874 --> 01:19:02,427 that's tied to a stick, you know? 1791 01:19:02,530 --> 01:19:03,877 - Oh, Thai stick. - Yeah. 1792 01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:05,740 Yeah, that didn't even do nothing to me, man. 1793 01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:07,708 I could probably smoke this whole joint, man, 1794 01:19:07,812 --> 01:19:09,227 and still walk away, man. 1795 01:19:09,330 --> 01:19:11,401 Wouldn't be no problem at all, man. 1796 01:19:14,059 --> 01:19:16,441 Toke, toke it up, man. 1797 01:19:19,271 --> 01:19:22,033 Kind of grabs you by the boo-boo, don't it? 1798 01:19:22,136 --> 01:19:24,552 Our success depended upon 1799 01:19:24,656 --> 01:19:28,660 an uninterrupted conversation between the two of us. 1800 01:19:28,764 --> 01:19:32,112 Lou was getting in our way when he tried to assume control 1801 01:19:32,215 --> 01:19:34,424 of the creative direction of the movie. 1802 01:19:34,528 --> 01:19:39,084 Tommy was very indignant 'cause that was his position. 1803 01:19:39,188 --> 01:19:40,776 Lou had a lot of talents. 1804 01:19:40,879 --> 01:19:42,881 Directing a movie isn't one of them. 1805 01:19:42,985 --> 01:19:44,400 And we had a lot of talents, 1806 01:19:44,503 --> 01:19:47,541 and directing our own movies is one of them. 1807 01:19:48,128 --> 01:19:50,095 - Who lives here, man? - That's my cousin 1808 01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:52,649 Strawberry, man. He's always got the best smoke. 1809 01:19:52,753 --> 01:19:54,410 When you make your first movie, 1810 01:19:54,513 --> 01:19:57,033 especially for comedians, you're gonna use everything 1811 01:19:57,137 --> 01:20:00,347 that you've ever learned or ever tried up until that point. 1812 01:20:00,450 --> 01:20:03,833 And that's what we did, plus more. 1813 01:20:03,937 --> 01:20:05,455 Who is it? 1814 01:20:05,559 --> 01:20:08,286 - It's me, Pedro, man. - Pedro's not here. 1815 01:20:09,149 --> 01:20:11,979 No, I'm Pedro, man. Open up. 1816 01:20:12,083 --> 01:20:14,257 We improvised inside the scene, 1817 01:20:14,361 --> 01:20:16,190 being spontaneous in front of the camera. 1818 01:20:16,294 --> 01:20:18,227 Just be cool. 1819 01:20:18,330 --> 01:20:20,505 How long you guys been in Mexico? 1820 01:20:20,608 --> 01:20:22,438 A week. 1821 01:20:22,541 --> 01:20:23,957 I mean, a-a day. 1822 01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:26,338 Which one is it, a week or a day? 1823 01:20:26,442 --> 01:20:27,753 A weekday. 1824 01:20:27,857 --> 01:20:29,686 You got any narcotics or marijuana in here? 1825 01:20:32,034 --> 01:20:35,106 Uh, not anymore. 1826 01:20:35,692 --> 01:20:37,612 There was one day at lunch, we were talking about 1827 01:20:37,694 --> 01:20:39,904 different roommates we've had over the years, 1828 01:20:40,007 --> 01:20:42,630 and Zane Buzby told this story about this girl 1829 01:20:42,734 --> 01:20:45,875 that she roomed with that had this boyfriend named Alex, 1830 01:20:45,979 --> 01:20:50,086 and every time they made love, she would call out his name. 1831 01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:51,605 Tommy says, "Let's film that." 1832 01:20:51,708 --> 01:20:54,056 I go, "What do you mean?" "Uh, right after lunch." 1833 01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:57,438 And she'd start going like a motorboat, you know? 1834 01:20:57,542 --> 01:20:59,578 Fu-u-u-u-u-u-u-uck 1835 01:20:59,682 --> 01:21:01,063 me-e-e-e-e-e-e. 1836 01:21:01,166 --> 01:21:04,687 Fuck me, Alex. Fuck me, Alex. 1837 01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:08,829 Fuck me, Alex. Fuck me, Alex. 1838 01:21:08,933 --> 01:21:10,831 - Fuck me, Alex. - Oh, I got a cramp. 1839 01:21:10,935 --> 01:21:12,119 - Oh, oh, I got a cramp. - Yeah! 1840 01:21:12,143 --> 01:21:13,420 - Ow. Ow. Ow. - Yeah! Yeah! 1841 01:21:13,523 --> 01:21:14,835 Oh, yeah, oh! 1842 01:21:14,939 --> 01:21:16,388 No. No! 1843 01:21:19,529 --> 01:21:21,324 It was one of the funniest 1844 01:21:21,428 --> 01:21:23,588 scenes in the movie, and it took a half hour to shoot. 1845 01:21:24,569 --> 01:21:27,468 Every single bit of that scene was improvised. 1846 01:21:27,572 --> 01:21:29,332 I didn't know your name was Alex, man. 1847 01:21:29,436 --> 01:21:30,575 Oh, I got a cramp. 1848 01:21:30,678 --> 01:21:33,578 Shit, I'd have a cramp there, too, man. Whoo! 1849 01:21:33,681 --> 01:21:34,993 What's going on out here? 1850 01:21:35,097 --> 01:21:37,616 I really felt comfortable 1851 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,860 shooting movies, 1852 01:21:39,964 --> 01:21:41,897 and it didn't matter to me who directed, 1853 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,210 as long as I had a big say in the process. 1854 01:21:45,935 --> 01:21:48,455 This is where I get out. 1855 01:22:13,549 --> 01:22:15,137 We had finished filming, 1856 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,553 and now it was in Lou's hands to edit it, 1857 01:22:17,656 --> 01:22:21,488 and he wouldn't let us in the editing room. 1858 01:22:23,421 --> 01:22:26,217 - You ready, Tom? - Yeah. 1859 01:22:27,873 --> 01:22:29,082 The question was, 1860 01:22:29,185 --> 01:22:30,946 is this a Lou Adler film, 1861 01:22:31,049 --> 01:22:33,017 or is this a Cheech & Chong film? 1862 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,398 ♪ Up in smoke 1863 01:22:36,468 --> 01:22:40,300 ♪ That's where my money goes... ♪ 1864 01:22:41,853 --> 01:22:46,099 The movie comes out, and it's a giant hit. Giant. 1865 01:22:48,377 --> 01:22:50,275 Nobody thoughtUp in Smoke 1866 01:22:50,379 --> 01:22:53,416 was gonna be anything but a bust. 1867 01:22:54,072 --> 01:22:56,350 But the problem was, we had a hit movie, 1868 01:22:56,454 --> 01:23:00,527 and both Cheech and I were literally broke, cash poor. 1869 01:23:01,666 --> 01:23:05,221 Our income depended upon our live performances. 1870 01:23:05,325 --> 01:23:07,948 And all the time we shot Up in Smoke, 1871 01:23:08,052 --> 01:23:10,468 we stopped touring on the road. 1872 01:23:10,571 --> 01:23:11,848 We had no income. 1873 01:23:11,952 --> 01:23:14,334 We started looking very closely 1874 01:23:14,437 --> 01:23:18,234 at the contract that we had signed without a lawyer. 1875 01:23:18,338 --> 01:23:19,856 Ah... 1876 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,757 That was a huge, horrible deal for us. 1877 01:23:23,860 --> 01:23:26,691 A 90-10 split Lou's way. 1878 01:23:30,350 --> 01:23:32,179 So how much did your film cost? 1879 01:23:32,283 --> 01:23:36,321 Under two. It was probably a million and a half. 1880 01:23:36,425 --> 01:23:37,909 And how much did it gross? 1881 01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:41,602 They're talking $104 million worldwide. 1882 01:23:41,706 --> 01:23:43,225 Who knows? 1883 01:23:43,328 --> 01:23:45,365 We got a pair of lime green shoes out of the deal. 1884 01:23:45,468 --> 01:23:47,125 How did you... 1885 01:23:47,229 --> 01:23:49,645 - $100. - And $100 and... 1886 01:23:49,748 --> 01:23:51,026 A crispy bill. 1887 01:23:51,129 --> 01:23:52,613 Out of the $104 million, seriously, 1888 01:23:52,717 --> 01:23:55,030 what was your original deal, if you don't mind my asking? 1889 01:23:55,133 --> 01:23:56,859 - We get, uh... - $50,000. 1890 01:23:56,962 --> 01:23:58,619 - $50,000 to split. - To split. 1891 01:23:58,723 --> 01:24:00,000 $25,000 each. 1892 01:24:00,104 --> 01:24:01,933 - $20,000? - Dollars. 1893 01:24:02,037 --> 01:24:03,486 - For writing... - To write... 1894 01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:05,533 - direct, star and promote. - And direct and to star. 1895 01:24:05,557 --> 01:24:07,456 - And promote. - And promote. 1896 01:24:07,559 --> 01:24:08,836 So, you guys made a great deal. 1897 01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:10,183 - Yeah. - Oh, beautiful deal. 1898 01:24:10,286 --> 01:24:11,505 - And we had... - And a jar of Vaseline. 1899 01:24:11,529 --> 01:24:13,255 No, we had ten percent of the back end. 1900 01:24:13,358 --> 01:24:16,085 -Was it ten percent or five percent? -Ten percent. 1901 01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:19,709 -Ten? -Ten percent of some vaguely defined 100%. 1902 01:24:19,813 --> 01:24:23,713 And we were committed to Paramount for six other movies. 1903 01:24:25,370 --> 01:24:28,546 Lou never took a penny as our manager. 1904 01:24:28,649 --> 01:24:31,583 He wasn't a ten-percenter or twenty-percenter. 1905 01:24:31,687 --> 01:24:34,448 He owned the record company. That was enough for him. 1906 01:24:34,552 --> 01:24:38,866 Everything he did to manage us was really on his dime. 1907 01:24:38,970 --> 01:24:42,215 And I now realize that 1908 01:24:42,318 --> 01:24:45,632 nothing's more expensive than a free lunch. 1909 01:24:46,219 --> 01:24:48,980 Lou, Tommy, and I were really tight. 1910 01:24:49,532 --> 01:24:52,017 That was a big hit, and it affected me emotionally 1911 01:24:52,121 --> 01:24:53,778 for a long time. 1912 01:24:54,365 --> 01:24:57,299 We never had a lawyer, and he had years of expertise 1913 01:24:57,402 --> 01:24:59,232 doing these kind of deals. 1914 01:24:59,335 --> 01:25:01,475 We thought what would be fair is if we split it 1915 01:25:01,579 --> 01:25:03,305 a third, a third, a third, 1916 01:25:03,408 --> 01:25:05,307 and we would go on and make other movies 1917 01:25:05,410 --> 01:25:07,171 under that formula. 1918 01:25:07,274 --> 01:25:10,795 He... chose not to take that deal. 1919 01:25:12,762 --> 01:25:14,281 Ladies and gentlemen, 1920 01:25:14,385 --> 01:25:16,628 please welcome those two fabulous furry 1921 01:25:16,732 --> 01:25:18,665 freaks of frivolity, 1922 01:25:18,768 --> 01:25:21,495 Cheech & Chong. 1923 01:25:26,431 --> 01:25:29,089 - How's everybody? - Yeah. 1924 01:25:29,193 --> 01:25:30,711 Yeah. Okay. 1925 01:25:30,815 --> 01:25:34,059 Oh. We're movie stars now, you know what I mean? 1926 01:25:34,163 --> 01:25:36,683 You know what I mean? 1927 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,998 So, we really don't have to do this shit, you know? 1928 01:25:42,102 --> 01:25:44,242 You know that? 1929 01:25:44,794 --> 01:25:47,211 But then again, considering the deal we got, 1930 01:25:47,314 --> 01:25:49,074 we're gonna have to do a lot more of this. 1931 01:25:50,904 --> 01:25:53,389 But I'm not, you know, I'm not bitter about the deal we got. 1932 01:25:53,493 --> 01:25:54,632 Fuck no. 1933 01:25:56,116 --> 01:25:57,566 We had a Comedy Store 1934 01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:59,361 in the city that we could perform at. 1935 01:25:59,464 --> 01:26:04,297 Every big-name act in Hollywood came down to see us. 1936 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,884 - What? - The paranoids. 1937 01:26:05,988 --> 01:26:07,966 - The paranoids are out there. - They're out there. 1938 01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:09,474 Oh, shit. Give me a Valium. 1939 01:26:09,578 --> 01:26:11,338 Never mind the Valium. Where's your gun? 1940 01:26:11,442 --> 01:26:13,961 - Oh, I forgot it. - Well, here, use one of mine. 1941 01:26:14,065 --> 01:26:16,412 Okay. 1942 01:26:17,448 --> 01:26:18,690 - Where are they? - Okay. 1943 01:26:18,794 --> 01:26:20,047 - Oh, there's one over there. - Where? 1944 01:26:20,071 --> 01:26:21,590 - Click. Click. - Where? 1945 01:26:21,693 --> 01:26:23,281 - Click. - Wh-What's the matter? 1946 01:26:23,385 --> 01:26:24,834 Oh, the damn gun won't work. 1947 01:26:24,938 --> 01:26:26,077 Click. Click. 1948 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:27,596 Well, take off the safety, stupid. 1949 01:26:27,699 --> 01:26:30,875 Oh, yeah, right. 1950 01:26:30,978 --> 01:26:32,221 - There they are. Cum. - Cum. 1951 01:26:32,325 --> 01:26:34,672 Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. 1952 01:26:34,775 --> 01:26:36,881 - Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. - Cum. Can't. 1953 01:26:36,984 --> 01:26:38,434 - Can't. Can't. - Cum. 1954 01:26:38,538 --> 01:26:40,574 - What's the matter? - I can't cum. 1955 01:26:40,678 --> 01:26:42,127 Can't. Can't. 1956 01:26:42,231 --> 01:26:44,682 - Well, reload. - Oh, right. 1957 01:26:46,856 --> 01:26:49,238 Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. Cum. 1958 01:26:49,342 --> 01:26:51,206 - We've overcome. They've gone. - Yay! 1959 01:26:51,309 --> 01:26:52,448 Cum. Cum. Cum. 1960 01:26:52,552 --> 01:26:54,174 We were tied up. 1961 01:26:54,278 --> 01:26:55,693 We couldn't do another movie 1962 01:26:55,796 --> 01:26:58,627 without Lou Adler's, uh, permission and involvement. 1963 01:26:58,730 --> 01:27:02,251 In the meantime, we met Howard Brown. 1964 01:27:02,355 --> 01:27:03,666 I met them. 1965 01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:06,117 There was some sort of a problem with 1966 01:27:06,221 --> 01:27:08,257 the chap they did Up in Smokewith. 1967 01:27:08,361 --> 01:27:10,777 So, they were out of the movie business, 1968 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,469 and all they were allowed to do is tour 1969 01:27:13,573 --> 01:27:16,438 because of the legalities of the problem. 1970 01:27:16,541 --> 01:27:18,681 And I saw them at The Comedy Store, 1971 01:27:18,785 --> 01:27:21,581 and I said, "They belong in the movies, 1972 01:27:21,684 --> 01:27:23,997 and-and so I've got to do something about it." 1973 01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:26,862 Howard Brown was a real fast-talking New Yorker, 1974 01:27:26,965 --> 01:27:29,105 and he wanted to be, uh, in show business. 1975 01:27:29,209 --> 01:27:31,384 I didn't like Howard Brown that much 1976 01:27:31,487 --> 01:27:33,455 'cause he was just so sleazy. 1977 01:27:33,558 --> 01:27:35,560 Tommy liked him 'cause he liked those kind of 1978 01:27:35,664 --> 01:27:38,356 sleazy street guys. They were more up his alley. 1979 01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:40,047 In retrospect, you looked at him, 1980 01:27:40,151 --> 01:27:41,635 and he was perfect for Hollywood. 1981 01:27:41,739 --> 01:27:44,224 Howard was like a bona fide 1982 01:27:44,328 --> 01:27:46,330 Jewish gangster from New York. 1983 01:27:46,433 --> 01:27:47,641 He dressed like a gangster. 1984 01:27:47,745 --> 01:27:49,264 He kind of talked like a gangster. 1985 01:27:49,367 --> 01:27:51,300 He had that New York sensibility. 1986 01:27:51,404 --> 01:27:53,992 There's always a way to do things. 1987 01:27:54,096 --> 01:27:56,271 I-I loved the man. He was... 1988 01:27:56,374 --> 01:27:58,825 Him and I got along really good. 1989 01:27:58,928 --> 01:28:01,137 They have a problem with Lou, and, uh, 1990 01:28:01,241 --> 01:28:04,071 I said, "If I can solve the problem, 1991 01:28:04,175 --> 01:28:08,421 then I'd like to produce the-the Cheech & Chong movies." 1992 01:28:08,524 --> 01:28:10,112 Howard says, "First of all, 1993 01:28:10,215 --> 01:28:13,080 we got to get you out of the Lou Adler contract." 1994 01:28:13,184 --> 01:28:15,186 It took a while, but he did it. 1995 01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:18,569 Then he says, "What would you guys be comfortable with?" 1996 01:28:18,672 --> 01:28:22,193 I said, "Well, you know, get us a million bucks, uh, uh, fee, 1997 01:28:22,297 --> 01:28:24,264 and we'll be happy." 1998 01:28:24,368 --> 01:28:25,610 With me directing. 1999 01:28:25,714 --> 01:28:27,509 That was the only thing I told Howard, 2000 01:28:27,612 --> 01:28:30,477 that I had to be the director. 2001 01:28:31,961 --> 01:28:34,619 So, big meeting you had this morning, huh? 2002 01:28:34,723 --> 01:28:38,071 Yeah, we're trying to-to settle all the small problems. 2003 01:28:38,174 --> 01:28:39,935 I mean, the big problems, you know, 2004 01:28:40,038 --> 01:28:42,662 were settled like that, you know, when it came down to 2005 01:28:42,765 --> 01:28:45,699 who's gonna do what, who's gonna be director, producer. 2006 01:28:45,803 --> 01:28:47,425 We have no script. That's okay. 2007 01:28:47,529 --> 01:28:49,116 Give us a few million, we'll make it. 2008 01:28:49,220 --> 01:28:50,497 Don't worry about it. 2009 01:28:50,601 --> 01:28:54,467 Got them the highest paid, uh, amount up front, 2010 01:28:54,570 --> 01:28:56,710 you know, as a fee that was ever done 2011 01:28:56,814 --> 01:28:59,092 in the history of the business. No problems. 2012 01:28:59,195 --> 01:29:01,853 And Howard phoned me, and he says... 2013 01:29:01,957 --> 01:29:04,580 The meeting only took a half hour at Universal. 2014 01:29:04,684 --> 01:29:06,720 So I called up Columbia. 2015 01:29:06,824 --> 01:29:08,412 "You're gonna tell them three stories. 2016 01:29:08,515 --> 01:29:09,896 "They're gonna pick two, 2017 01:29:09,999 --> 01:29:11,932 and you're gonna do two movies for them." 2018 01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:16,281 We got a three-picture deal with two studios 2019 01:29:16,385 --> 01:29:18,111 in one day. 2020 01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:24,186 In the great Hollywood tradition, 2021 01:29:24,289 --> 01:29:25,705 everyone loves a winner. 2022 01:29:25,808 --> 01:29:28,708 In contrast to the $25,000 they both received 2023 01:29:28,811 --> 01:29:31,435 for their first movie, Cheech & Chong were both paid 2024 01:29:31,538 --> 01:29:34,990 a million dollars in advance for their next movie. 2025 01:29:35,577 --> 01:29:37,613 - Just be cool, man. - I'm cool. You be cool. 2026 01:29:37,717 --> 01:29:39,339 I'm cool. You just be cool. 2027 01:29:39,443 --> 01:29:40,720 How do you like directing? 2028 01:29:40,823 --> 01:29:42,307 I love directing. 2029 01:29:42,411 --> 01:29:43,688 Is it new to you? 2030 01:29:43,792 --> 01:29:45,725 Film directing is new. You know, I've... 2031 01:29:45,828 --> 01:29:47,588 We've only... I've only been in two pictures, 2032 01:29:47,658 --> 01:29:49,660 and I directed half of one and all of the other. 2033 01:29:49,763 --> 01:29:51,800 At first, I was a little in awe, but... 2034 01:29:51,903 --> 01:29:53,318 but it's like riding a horse. 2035 01:29:53,422 --> 01:29:55,044 You got to get on and hang on. 2036 01:29:55,148 --> 01:29:57,806 Cheech said that between the two of you, 2037 01:29:57,909 --> 01:30:00,049 you've always been the director. 2038 01:30:01,016 --> 01:30:03,052 Yeah. Yeah. 2039 01:30:03,156 --> 01:30:05,089 He-he directs me. 2040 01:30:05,192 --> 01:30:06,815 You know, he-he has an opinion. 2041 01:30:06,918 --> 01:30:08,679 The great thing about Cheech & Chong is 2042 01:30:08,782 --> 01:30:11,267 that using improv techniques, 2043 01:30:11,371 --> 01:30:13,856 you're always wide open for somebody else's opinion. 2044 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,272 That's why it's important as to who we're around 2045 01:30:16,376 --> 01:30:17,998 before we shoot or when we shoot, 2046 01:30:18,102 --> 01:30:21,243 because anybody around us, or any words, or television, 2047 01:30:21,346 --> 01:30:23,521 anything can affect us. 2048 01:30:23,625 --> 01:30:25,361 You got taken to the cleaner so bad last time. 2049 01:30:25,385 --> 01:30:26,904 I don't think so. I really... 2050 01:30:27,007 --> 01:30:29,527 I think it was a wash. I think it was even Steven. 2051 01:30:29,631 --> 01:30:31,598 I mean, we had a chance 2052 01:30:31,702 --> 01:30:34,498 to show... show the coach what we could do. 2053 01:30:34,601 --> 01:30:37,155 And, uh, so we didn't get paid for that game, 2054 01:30:37,259 --> 01:30:38,709 but we're starters from now on. 2055 01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:41,090 So, I-I never look back, but, you know, 2056 01:30:41,194 --> 01:30:43,852 I look back and think of how beautiful it was. 2057 01:30:53,344 --> 01:30:54,656 On the next movie, 2058 01:30:54,759 --> 01:30:58,383 I hired a first-time cameraman. 2059 01:30:58,487 --> 01:30:59,902 It was a good move 2060 01:31:00,006 --> 01:31:03,250 because he was so fired up to make his mark. 2061 01:31:03,354 --> 01:31:05,460 The first day, we did 42 setups, 2062 01:31:05,563 --> 01:31:07,600 and there was no warming up. 2063 01:31:07,703 --> 01:31:09,256 It was like, we went balls-out. 2064 01:31:11,742 --> 01:31:14,261 I was always concentrating on making the scene funny 2065 01:31:14,365 --> 01:31:16,160 between Tommy and I. 2066 01:31:16,263 --> 01:31:17,955 ♪ Mexican Americans 2067 01:31:18,058 --> 01:31:20,336 ♪ Don't like to just get into gang fights ♪ 2068 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,374 ♪ They like flowers and music 2069 01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:27,654 ♪ And white girls named Debbie, too ♪ 2070 01:31:28,344 --> 01:31:32,521 ♪ Mexican Americans are named Chata and Chella ♪ 2071 01:31:32,625 --> 01:31:37,077 ♪ And Chemma and have a son-in-law named Jeff ♪ 2072 01:31:38,838 --> 01:31:40,633 ♪ Mexican Americans don't like 2073 01:31:40,736 --> 01:31:43,601 ♪ To get up early in the morning ♪ 2074 01:31:43,705 --> 01:31:49,331 ♪ But they have to, so they do it real slow ♪ 2075 01:31:49,883 --> 01:31:53,231 ♪ Mexican Americans love education ♪ 2076 01:31:53,335 --> 01:31:54,819 ♪ So they go to night school 2077 01:31:54,923 --> 01:31:59,444 ♪ And they take Spanish and get a B. ♪ 2078 01:31:59,548 --> 01:32:01,516 Yeah, leave that in. 2079 01:32:01,619 --> 01:32:04,277 And that's all I got. How do you like it? 2080 01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:06,175 Oh, that's good. Uh, yeah. 2081 01:32:06,279 --> 01:32:07,522 It's like a protest tune, man. 2082 01:32:07,625 --> 01:32:08,945 - Yeah, I-I dig that, man. - Yeah. 2083 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,835 Even though we didn't have 2084 01:32:10,939 --> 01:32:12,872 a lot of things that other movies have... 2085 01:32:12,975 --> 01:32:16,013 the car crashes and all that other stuff... 2086 01:32:16,116 --> 01:32:18,671 I was more interested in getting the human side 2087 01:32:18,774 --> 01:32:22,571 and getting the humor and getting the real, uh, 2088 01:32:22,675 --> 01:32:24,400 uh, nitty-gritty. 2089 01:32:24,504 --> 01:32:26,471 - You got a light, man? - Huh? 2090 01:32:26,575 --> 01:32:28,094 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 2091 01:32:28,197 --> 01:32:30,268 Hey, I don't think you better light it in here, man. 2092 01:32:30,372 --> 01:32:32,063 - Why? - Oh, these gas fumes, man. 2093 01:32:32,167 --> 01:32:33,824 - Oh, man. - Well... 2094 01:32:38,553 --> 01:32:40,589 Cheech & Chong are two sharp L.A. comics 2095 01:32:40,693 --> 01:32:42,418 who take old, tried-and-true material 2096 01:32:42,522 --> 01:32:44,144 and zing it right into their audience. 2097 01:32:44,248 --> 01:32:45,560 The drug culture. 2098 01:32:45,663 --> 01:32:47,158 Kids who are either too young or too wrecked 2099 01:32:47,182 --> 01:32:49,840 to know it's all been done before... better. 2100 01:32:49,943 --> 01:32:52,083 ♪ Hey, homes, why don't you come along... ♪ 2101 01:32:52,187 --> 01:32:53,982 The funniest sequence is so off-color, 2102 01:32:54,085 --> 01:32:55,570 I can't even begin to describe it. 2103 01:32:55,673 --> 01:32:57,917 Weird, anarchistic, anti-authority, 2104 01:32:58,020 --> 01:32:59,746 sophomoric, gross, bordering on repulsive, 2105 01:32:59,850 --> 01:33:02,784 and sometimes real funny. 2106 01:33:02,887 --> 01:33:04,717 When they were starting out, I was a kid, 2107 01:33:04,820 --> 01:33:06,695 and I thought Cheech & Chong were terrific. 2108 01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:09,549 I've grown up. They haven't. 2109 01:33:09,653 --> 01:33:11,931 Hmm. Maybe they know something. 2110 01:33:12,034 --> 01:33:14,071 ♪ Business on the other side... ♪ 2111 01:33:14,174 --> 01:33:16,142 You know, you two are really carrying on 2112 01:33:16,245 --> 01:33:17,902 the tradition of the Laurel and Hardy 2113 01:33:18,006 --> 01:33:20,249 and the Martin and Lewis and the Abbott and Costello, 2114 01:33:20,353 --> 01:33:22,320 the comed... the male comedy team 2115 01:33:22,424 --> 01:33:23,744 in feature-length motion pictures. 2116 01:33:23,839 --> 01:33:25,161 Are you aware of that? I mean, is that... 2117 01:33:25,185 --> 01:33:26,428 - No. - No? 2118 01:33:26,531 --> 01:33:27,636 Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh. 2119 01:33:27,740 --> 01:33:29,534 Oh, that. Yeah. 2120 01:33:29,638 --> 01:33:31,157 ♪ On the other side... 2121 01:33:31,260 --> 01:33:33,642 Our relationship with the press, 2122 01:33:33,746 --> 01:33:35,264 right from the beginning, was always 2123 01:33:35,368 --> 01:33:36,921 a love-hate relationship. 2124 01:33:37,025 --> 01:33:39,752 They didn't see the intelligence it took 2125 01:33:39,855 --> 01:33:42,755 to make a really dumb joke. 2126 01:33:42,858 --> 01:33:44,964 Once in a while, one of the highest-class critics 2127 01:33:45,067 --> 01:33:46,621 would give us a rave review, 2128 01:33:46,724 --> 01:33:49,762 like Pauline Kael inThe New Yorker. 2129 01:33:49,865 --> 01:33:51,626 "Okay, well, somebody's getting it." 2130 01:33:51,729 --> 01:33:53,835 Everything worked in our favor. 2131 01:33:53,938 --> 01:33:56,078 And if you didn't like us, that was your problem, 2132 01:33:56,182 --> 01:33:58,840 and if you liked us, that was also your problem. 2133 01:33:58,943 --> 01:34:01,221 ♪ Business on the other side... ♪ 2134 01:34:01,325 --> 01:34:02,809 You've got the money. 2135 01:34:02,913 --> 01:34:04,639 You're-you're living quite nicely. 2136 01:34:04,742 --> 01:34:06,813 Is this what the counterculture is coming to? 2137 01:34:06,917 --> 01:34:09,264 We found out that "counterculture" means "poor." 2138 01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:13,544 Yeah, we're no longer in the counterculture. 2139 01:34:13,648 --> 01:34:15,857 We're, uh, across the counterculture. 2140 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,766 You know, they give five bucks across the counter, 2141 01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:19,491 and then we give them a record or a movie or... 2142 01:34:19,515 --> 01:34:20,896 something like that. 2143 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,760 You think of George Carlin, 2144 01:34:22,864 --> 01:34:24,244 you think, uh, Richard Pryor. 2145 01:34:24,348 --> 01:34:25,867 Is it fair to ask you how you think 2146 01:34:25,970 --> 01:34:27,351 you stack up to them as a comic? 2147 01:34:27,454 --> 01:34:28,697 When they say "comics," 2148 01:34:28,801 --> 01:34:30,364 they don't even mention Cheech & Chong. 2149 01:34:30,388 --> 01:34:32,252 They always say, "Oh, they're something else." 2150 01:34:32,356 --> 01:34:34,461 So we'll take that. We're "something else." 2151 01:34:34,565 --> 01:34:36,463 - Can you define it? - Nope. 2152 01:34:36,567 --> 01:34:38,500 ♪ Nice dreams 2153 01:34:38,603 --> 01:34:40,260 ♪ Hmm, little girl. 2154 01:34:46,681 --> 01:34:49,718 Do you realize how long we've been doing this? 2155 01:34:49,822 --> 01:34:51,720 A long time. 2156 01:34:51,824 --> 01:34:54,240 Uh, it blows my mind when I think about it. 2157 01:34:54,343 --> 01:34:56,518 Look how far we've come. 2158 01:34:56,621 --> 01:34:59,141 I know. Way out in the desert. 2159 01:35:00,349 --> 01:35:02,766 And where is Dave in this whole deal? 2160 01:35:02,869 --> 01:35:05,147 Dave's not here. 2161 01:35:08,185 --> 01:35:11,809 I've been dying to say that. 2162 01:35:11,913 --> 01:35:14,363 That cracks me up, man. 2163 01:35:16,124 --> 01:35:19,644 So, is this a documentary or a movie? 2164 01:35:19,748 --> 01:35:21,543 I don't know, man. 2165 01:35:21,646 --> 01:35:23,510 Well, is there a script? 2166 01:35:23,614 --> 01:35:24,822 Are you serious? 2167 01:35:24,926 --> 01:35:26,721 Well, yeah, I'm serious. 2168 01:35:26,824 --> 01:35:28,344 You always say "we never had a script," 2169 01:35:28,412 --> 01:35:31,864 and I wrote the script that we "never had." 2170 01:35:31,967 --> 01:35:35,005 I didn't write anybody's dialogue, 2171 01:35:35,108 --> 01:35:37,110 but I wrote the premise of the movie, 2172 01:35:37,214 --> 01:35:39,250 which a movie company needs. 2173 01:35:39,354 --> 01:35:40,596 In order to make a movie, 2174 01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:42,495 they got to know where to set the cameras. 2175 01:35:42,598 --> 01:35:44,566 If you wrote it, how did I improvise 2176 01:35:44,669 --> 01:35:45,878 all the stuff that I did? 2177 01:35:45,981 --> 01:35:47,603 Or you did or we did together? 2178 01:35:47,707 --> 01:35:48,987 I never said I wrote every line. 2179 01:35:49,053 --> 01:35:50,675 I said I wrote the outline. 2180 01:35:50,779 --> 01:35:52,988 So, like, "Joke goes here." You wrote that? 2181 01:35:53,092 --> 01:35:55,266 - I mean, all right, h-here... - No, see, see, you get, 2182 01:35:55,370 --> 01:35:57,210 -you get insulted when it comes to that. -I do get insulted. 2183 01:35:57,234 --> 01:35:58,822 But here's the perfect example. 2184 01:35:58,925 --> 01:36:01,065 -Okay? We were making Nice Dreams. -Yeah. 2185 01:36:01,169 --> 01:36:03,516 And, uh, we were in the insane asylum... 2186 01:36:09,522 --> 01:36:11,351 ♪ Save the whales 2187 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:16,460 ♪ Hey, funky mama, save those whales... ♪ 2188 01:36:16,563 --> 01:36:17,979 In all my endeavors, 2189 01:36:18,082 --> 01:36:20,395 I never called myself a leader of anything. 2190 01:36:20,498 --> 01:36:24,709 I would organize the band, but I was never the best singer 2191 01:36:24,813 --> 01:36:26,021 or the best musician. 2192 01:36:26,125 --> 01:36:29,197 But I had an organizational sense. 2193 01:36:29,300 --> 01:36:31,475 It just came to me naturally. 2194 01:36:31,578 --> 01:36:33,270 At the beginning, 2195 01:36:33,373 --> 01:36:35,489 there was a younger brother/ older brother dynamic going on 2196 01:36:35,513 --> 01:36:38,827 because he had more experience, he was eight years older. 2197 01:36:38,931 --> 01:36:42,175 But I was learning a lot every movie. 2198 01:36:42,279 --> 01:36:46,870 Tommy kind of saw my ideas as an affront to his directorship. 2199 01:36:46,973 --> 01:36:50,080 No, man, I'm just trying to make the movie better. 2200 01:36:50,183 --> 01:36:52,841 There's an age-old, 2201 01:36:52,945 --> 01:36:55,499 tried-and-true formula for making movies: 2202 01:36:55,602 --> 01:36:57,742 the director calls the shots. 2203 01:36:57,846 --> 01:36:59,434 It's movie etiquette. 2204 01:36:59,537 --> 01:37:02,989 When you have a vision, it's your vision. 2205 01:37:03,093 --> 01:37:07,614 Cheech wanted more say in what we were doing, 2206 01:37:07,718 --> 01:37:09,133 and it was like, 2207 01:37:09,237 --> 01:37:11,135 "No, this is what we're going to do." 2208 01:37:11,239 --> 01:37:13,724 Hey! 2209 01:37:15,139 --> 01:37:18,177 My balls itch! 2210 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,558 I was glad to listen to Tommy creatively 2211 01:37:20,662 --> 01:37:22,733 because we had the same process. 2212 01:37:22,837 --> 01:37:25,632 If I thought it was funnier or that I could make it funny, 2213 01:37:25,736 --> 01:37:27,462 I would do it. 2214 01:37:29,222 --> 01:37:31,846 His direction was very general: 2215 01:37:31,949 --> 01:37:35,159 "You have a padded cell. Be funny." 2216 01:37:38,197 --> 01:37:41,994 The essential part of knowing when something is funny 2217 01:37:42,097 --> 01:37:43,616 never changed. 2218 01:37:43,719 --> 01:37:45,135 Hey! 2219 01:37:45,238 --> 01:37:48,276 The thing that started to slowly change was 2220 01:37:48,379 --> 01:37:52,901 who was in charge of knowing everything. 2221 01:37:54,938 --> 01:37:57,595 Yeah. Marissa, bring me some tea, 2222 01:37:57,699 --> 01:38:00,564 and get me Howard Brown. Thanks. 2223 01:38:02,807 --> 01:38:05,189 We're gonna do a bit here. Cheech is really excited. 2224 01:38:05,293 --> 01:38:07,640 You know, "Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen." 2225 01:38:07,743 --> 01:38:10,194 Then we'll pull back and we'll see about four or five... 2226 01:38:10,298 --> 01:38:13,473 - Oh, okay. Okay. - Bored people there. 2227 01:38:13,577 --> 01:38:16,097 HB, tell me some good news. 2228 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,833 Well, the good news... You want the good news? 2229 01:38:17,857 --> 01:38:20,342 Good news is we're partners with them in the movie. 2230 01:38:20,446 --> 01:38:23,173 They want to protect the movie from any injunction 2231 01:38:23,276 --> 01:38:26,383 - or enjoinment or lawsuit... - Bullshit. 2232 01:38:26,486 --> 01:38:29,179 They're gambling that I'm a nice guy 2233 01:38:29,282 --> 01:38:31,008 that won't give them any problems, 2234 01:38:31,112 --> 01:38:33,193 which I already have been, for the whole shoot, right? 2235 01:38:33,217 --> 01:38:35,564 -Right, right. -Well, I'm gambling the other way. 2236 01:38:35,668 --> 01:38:37,842 I'm gambling that-that we're popular enough 2237 01:38:37,946 --> 01:38:40,776 that if they don't see it our way, 2238 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,502 then we're gonna... we're not gonna feel 2239 01:38:42,606 --> 01:38:44,504 very good about working for them again. 2240 01:38:44,608 --> 01:38:46,448 That's right, you're one of the most important, 2241 01:38:46,506 --> 01:38:48,174 - if not the most important... - That's right. 2242 01:38:48,198 --> 01:38:49,761 So why don't they beat up the other schmuck 2243 01:38:49,785 --> 01:38:51,166 and leave me alone? 2244 01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:52,788 Well, if it's that... 2245 01:38:52,892 --> 01:38:54,687 Howard Brown had a lot to do 2246 01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:57,655 with the tension between us because he would tell 2247 01:38:57,759 --> 01:39:00,106 each of us different things. 2248 01:39:00,210 --> 01:39:01,739 "Oh, well, Tommy, you're-you're the star, 2249 01:39:01,763 --> 01:39:03,499 you're this or this," you know, "this is all you," 2250 01:39:03,523 --> 01:39:05,443 and he would come out to me and tell me the same, 2251 01:39:05,525 --> 01:39:07,665 "Oh, Cheech, you know, y-you're really the star. 2252 01:39:07,769 --> 01:39:10,082 "And that Tommy, we... he needs you, and blah, blah, blah, 2253 01:39:10,185 --> 01:39:11,956 and so you got to do this for him, blah, blah," 2254 01:39:11,980 --> 01:39:14,051 and he was just a lying... 2255 01:39:14,155 --> 01:39:16,709 You know, and it was like... Ay... 2256 01:39:20,126 --> 01:39:23,198 I found a real doctor, man. 2257 01:39:23,302 --> 01:39:25,614 - Says he can help us. - Do you have the key? 2258 01:39:25,718 --> 01:39:27,616 I've got the key right here. 2259 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,618 Oh, thank God. 2260 01:39:29,722 --> 01:39:31,310 Stick out your tongue. 2261 01:39:36,004 --> 01:39:38,179 There's the key. 2262 01:39:38,282 --> 01:39:40,319 You have Dr. Timothy Leary in the film. 2263 01:39:40,422 --> 01:39:42,355 - Yeah. - And Dr. Leary offered 2264 01:39:42,459 --> 01:39:45,945 some interestingly convoluted explanations 2265 01:39:46,049 --> 01:39:47,429 of your work and your art. 2266 01:39:47,533 --> 01:39:50,398 I do not understand how he has likened your art 2267 01:39:50,501 --> 01:39:53,263 as film comedian to the work of Bruegel. 2268 01:39:53,366 --> 01:39:54,930 - Do you, Tommy? - I don't know who Bruegel is. 2269 01:39:54,954 --> 01:39:56,069 - Do you, Richard? - Yeah. Uh-huh. 2270 01:39:56,093 --> 01:39:57,405 Could you explain that for...? 2271 01:39:57,508 --> 01:39:58,969 Well, Bruegel, if you look at his paintings, 2272 01:39:58,993 --> 01:40:00,477 are very close to Hieronymus Bosch 2273 01:40:00,580 --> 01:40:03,445 in that there's a lot of things going... it's... 2274 01:40:03,549 --> 01:40:06,828 His canvases were heaven and hell. 2275 01:40:06,931 --> 01:40:08,554 You know? And this particular picture, 2276 01:40:08,657 --> 01:40:10,487 more than anything else, was heaven and hell. 2277 01:40:10,590 --> 01:40:12,085 -Hey, man, I ain't bullshitting with you... -Hey! 2278 01:40:12,109 --> 01:40:13,549 Hey, man, give me my money back, man! 2279 01:40:13,628 --> 01:40:15,181 All these things happening together 2280 01:40:15,285 --> 01:40:17,563 that the eye cannot take in all at once. 2281 01:40:17,666 --> 01:40:20,600 But once you start studying, you see the complexity of life 2282 01:40:20,704 --> 01:40:22,430 in one canvas, and he makes it work. 2283 01:40:22,533 --> 01:40:24,259 What are you doing? 2284 01:40:24,363 --> 01:40:25,823 Well, they say the original screenplay 2285 01:40:25,847 --> 01:40:27,745 for Cheech & Chong's Nice Dreamsis written 2286 01:40:27,849 --> 01:40:29,368 on the back of an envelope. 2287 01:40:29,471 --> 01:40:31,025 Must have been a small envelope. 2288 01:40:31,128 --> 01:40:32,405 My suggestion for the title 2289 01:40:32,509 --> 01:40:34,476 of Cheech & Chong's next movie is 2290 01:40:34,580 --> 01:40:36,754 Cheech & Chong Go to the Drug Detoxification 2291 01:40:36,858 --> 01:40:38,446 and Rehabilitation Center, 2292 01:40:38,549 --> 01:40:41,000 Deal with Dope-Induced Brain Damage and Paranoia 2293 01:40:41,104 --> 01:40:42,622 and Learn to Make Funny Comedies. 2294 01:40:42,726 --> 01:40:44,462 What, do you think that's too long for a theater marquee? 2295 01:40:44,486 --> 01:40:46,154 Well, it might have been a better film than this one. 2296 01:40:46,178 --> 01:40:48,525 I'll tell you, this is, uh, this is bad stuff. 2297 01:40:54,393 --> 01:40:56,429 There. Got it. 2298 01:40:56,533 --> 01:40:58,121 Do you ever get on 2299 01:40:58,224 --> 01:41:00,261 one another's nerves to the point where you get mad 2300 01:41:00,364 --> 01:41:01,644 and you don't speak for a while? 2301 01:41:01,676 --> 01:41:04,299 - Not Cheech & Chong. - Oh, come on. 2302 01:41:04,403 --> 01:41:06,094 - No. Yeah, yeah. - Really? 2303 01:41:06,198 --> 01:41:08,038 Yeah, Tommy's saying, Tommy's saying, "Uh-huh." 2304 01:41:08,062 --> 01:41:09,753 No, we get along just great. 2305 01:41:09,856 --> 01:41:12,721 Don't we, Tommy? 2306 01:41:12,825 --> 01:41:15,414 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh... 2307 01:41:15,517 --> 01:41:17,588 It's been, um... 2308 01:41:17,692 --> 01:41:21,592 brewing from the last picture that I directed. 2309 01:41:21,696 --> 01:41:23,905 'Cause I kept being taken away 2310 01:41:24,008 --> 01:41:25,700 from Cheech, you know? And, uh... 2311 01:41:25,803 --> 01:41:28,082 So that's why the next movie we're gonna do, uh, 2312 01:41:28,185 --> 01:41:30,153 we're gonna get a director in to direct, 2313 01:41:30,256 --> 01:41:31,775 'cause now we got the confidence, 2314 01:41:31,878 --> 01:41:33,432 you know, we can do that. 2315 01:41:36,435 --> 01:41:38,816 We finishedNice Dreams, 2316 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,096 and then we went into Things Are Tough All Over. 2317 01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:43,890 On the other movies, I would write, 2318 01:41:43,994 --> 01:41:46,514 Cheech would go on vacation, Howard would make the deal, 2319 01:41:46,617 --> 01:41:48,516 and then we'd come in and shoot. 2320 01:41:48,619 --> 01:41:52,796 But this time, Cheech wanted to be involved in everything, 2321 01:41:52,899 --> 01:41:54,179 and he didn't want me to direct. 2322 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,111 I want to go back to the desert! 2323 01:41:57,214 --> 01:41:59,043 Tom Avildsen was the editor. 2324 01:41:59,147 --> 01:42:01,425 I said, "Okay, Tom, you direct. 2325 01:42:01,529 --> 01:42:03,979 "You will go down as the director, I don't care, 2326 01:42:04,083 --> 01:42:07,845 but I'll actually be the director." 2327 01:42:07,949 --> 01:42:09,916 Jesus Christ, Chong. 2328 01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:11,987 It was this kind of replacement. 2329 01:42:12,091 --> 01:42:14,542 "I'll just promote Tom, the editor, 2330 01:42:14,645 --> 01:42:18,166 because I'm not the director," but he was. 2331 01:42:19,616 --> 01:42:22,308 Well, that was a great fucking idea. 2332 01:42:22,412 --> 01:42:24,724 Thanks. 2333 01:42:27,071 --> 01:42:28,694 Hey! 2334 01:42:28,797 --> 01:42:30,005 Hey! 2335 01:42:32,284 --> 01:42:34,838 ¡Come mierda, pendejo! 2336 01:42:37,185 --> 01:42:40,499 We're gonna die of heat frustration out here. 2337 01:42:43,364 --> 01:42:45,089 Play something else, will you, please? 2338 01:42:45,193 --> 01:42:47,437 That's desert music, man. 2339 01:42:47,540 --> 01:42:49,577 - Come on, mellow out, man. - Oh, "desert music." 2340 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,372 Man, we're gonna die out here. 2341 01:42:51,475 --> 01:42:54,754 Hey, man, let's do that song we were writing in Chicago. 2342 01:42:54,858 --> 01:42:56,170 What song? 2343 01:42:56,273 --> 01:42:58,275 You know, that "Me and My Old Lady." 2344 01:42:58,379 --> 01:43:00,312 I don't know how it goes. 2345 01:43:00,415 --> 01:43:02,348 Come on, sure you do. You wrote it. 2346 01:43:02,452 --> 01:43:04,626 - I don't remember it, man. - Well, let's try it. 2347 01:43:04,730 --> 01:43:08,596 ♪ Me 2348 01:43:08,699 --> 01:43:12,255 -♪ And my old lady -♪ My old lady 2349 01:43:12,358 --> 01:43:15,016 There you go. 2350 01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:18,053 ♪ We like, we like-like to, like ♪ 2351 01:43:18,157 --> 01:43:22,265 ♪ We like to, like-like, get outside ♪ 2352 01:43:23,266 --> 01:43:24,681 Uh... 2353 01:43:24,784 --> 01:43:28,478 ♪ But sometimes 2354 01:43:28,581 --> 01:43:32,171 ♪ People space us out... 2355 01:43:32,275 --> 01:43:34,138 Me and Tommy have been together 2356 01:43:34,242 --> 01:43:36,002 longer than I've ever been with any woman. 2357 01:43:36,106 --> 01:43:39,316 And you get these points that you got to just talk it out, 2358 01:43:39,420 --> 01:43:41,007 and it's very painful sometimes, 2359 01:43:41,111 --> 01:43:43,286 but you just do it 'cause you want that relationship 2360 01:43:43,389 --> 01:43:45,495 to go on, other than the fame and the money, 2361 01:43:45,598 --> 01:43:46,886 'cause it's really a lot of fun. 2362 01:43:46,910 --> 01:43:48,877 I mean, he's my best friend, you know? 2363 01:43:48,981 --> 01:43:50,327 It's yin and yang, 2364 01:43:50,431 --> 01:43:51,742 you know, Cheech & Chong. 2365 01:43:51,846 --> 01:43:54,918 I'm passive, he's, uh, very aggressive, 2366 01:43:55,021 --> 01:43:56,713 and it works perfectly. 2367 01:43:56,816 --> 01:43:59,509 We complement each other. That's why we're together. 2368 01:44:04,030 --> 01:44:06,240 Did the egos get in the way 2369 01:44:06,343 --> 01:44:08,690 of your work when you were directing? 2370 01:44:08,794 --> 01:44:11,900 Yeah. Yeah, it-it's a... it's a strange... 2371 01:44:12,004 --> 01:44:14,420 There was a learning process for both of us, you know? 2372 01:44:14,524 --> 01:44:18,113 And, uh, the nature of our act is I'm... I-I always will, 2373 01:44:18,217 --> 01:44:20,057 you know, I'm the senior member of the partnership, 2374 01:44:20,081 --> 01:44:23,291 and so I can make some, some crucial decisions. 2375 01:44:23,395 --> 01:44:25,914 But then again, if-if I'm off on the wrong path, 2376 01:44:26,018 --> 01:44:27,399 he-he'll tell me about it. 2377 01:44:27,502 --> 01:44:29,297 And, uh, it's a very touchy thing, 2378 01:44:29,401 --> 01:44:30,816 you know, especially with movies. 2379 01:44:30,919 --> 01:44:32,656 You know, i-if you know anything about movies, 2380 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,240 uh, that's the first thing that happens: 2381 01:44:34,337 --> 01:44:35,786 friendships dissolve, you know. 2382 01:44:35,890 --> 01:44:37,029 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 2383 01:44:46,245 --> 01:44:48,868 What happens in movies is 2384 01:44:48,972 --> 01:44:50,353 your ego gets quite large. 2385 01:44:50,456 --> 01:44:53,148 Tommy's ego was always 2386 01:44:53,252 --> 01:44:55,634 quite large, which is great. 2387 01:44:55,737 --> 01:44:57,670 You have to have a big ego to be in show business 2388 01:44:57,774 --> 01:45:00,432 'cause what you're saying is, "Look at me," you know? 2389 01:45:00,535 --> 01:45:02,572 I'm doing wonderful things. You should laugh, 2390 01:45:02,675 --> 01:45:04,815 or you should love us, or whatever it is 2391 01:45:04,919 --> 01:45:07,231 that's necessary. 2392 01:45:07,335 --> 01:45:11,443 He got an ego 2393 01:45:11,546 --> 01:45:14,480 out of proportion to his actual talent. 2394 01:45:14,584 --> 01:45:17,345 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep... 2395 01:45:17,449 --> 01:45:19,520 When I became the director, 2396 01:45:19,623 --> 01:45:23,524 that really drove a wedge between Cheech and I. 2397 01:45:23,627 --> 01:45:24,939 We were no longer partners. 2398 01:45:25,042 --> 01:45:28,908 I was the director, and Cheech was the actor. 2399 01:45:29,012 --> 01:45:32,843 Hey, listen, man, turn those mics down. Turn 'em down. 2400 01:45:36,330 --> 01:45:38,366 I think Cheech really wanted 2401 01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:40,955 to be equal in every way, 2402 01:45:41,058 --> 01:45:44,303 and you can't, because even though I directed, 2403 01:45:44,407 --> 01:45:46,409 he was the star of all the movies. 2404 01:45:46,512 --> 01:45:48,583 Zero. 2405 01:45:52,863 --> 01:45:55,349 The movie was focused on him. 2406 01:45:56,660 --> 01:45:58,213 And I did that purposely 2407 01:45:58,317 --> 01:46:00,630 because it-it was a trade-off. 2408 01:46:11,019 --> 01:46:12,193 He didn't put me anywhere. 2409 01:46:12,296 --> 01:46:14,195 I was in the same position I was 2410 01:46:14,298 --> 01:46:15,852 since we started the act. 2411 01:46:15,955 --> 01:46:17,819 I was Cheech from Cheech & Chong. 2412 01:46:17,923 --> 01:46:20,960 And that came with its own thing. 2413 01:46:21,513 --> 01:46:23,100 If you weren't gonna be recognized 2414 01:46:23,204 --> 01:46:25,309 as the acting star, you wanted to be recognized 2415 01:46:25,413 --> 01:46:26,853 as the director... I understand that. 2416 01:46:26,897 --> 01:46:30,763 So you think that I-I directed because, 2417 01:46:30,867 --> 01:46:33,973 uh, it was a job that I could do? 2418 01:46:34,077 --> 01:46:36,390 Instead of being the star, I could be the director? 2419 01:46:36,493 --> 01:46:38,184 Well, you always were the director. 2420 01:46:38,288 --> 01:46:39,600 It wasn't like... 2421 01:46:39,703 --> 01:46:41,567 And you got to earn it. You can't just say, 2422 01:46:41,671 --> 01:46:44,225 oh, because I was there with the other guy that directed, 2423 01:46:44,328 --> 01:46:45,847 I should be a director. 2424 01:46:45,951 --> 01:46:47,780 Did I direct as much as you did in the movies? 2425 01:46:47,884 --> 01:46:49,403 - Huh? - Did I direct as much 2426 01:46:49,506 --> 01:46:51,128 - as you did in the movies? - No. 2427 01:46:51,232 --> 01:46:52,509 All right, then. 2428 01:46:52,613 --> 01:46:54,753 - No, you never... - See, that's a lie. 2429 01:46:56,133 --> 01:46:57,272 That's a lie? 2430 01:46:57,376 --> 01:46:58,722 Yeah. Well, of course it's a lie. 2431 01:46:58,826 --> 01:47:00,897 I directed just as much as you did in the movies. 2432 01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:02,450 - You know? - Okay. 2433 01:47:02,554 --> 01:47:05,384 When we had to re... 2434 01:47:05,488 --> 01:47:08,525 This isn't really worth going into. 2435 01:47:13,530 --> 01:47:15,946 Mine. Mine. 2436 01:47:19,985 --> 01:47:22,125 Mine, mine, mine. 2437 01:47:23,091 --> 01:47:24,265 - Mine, mine. - Ow! 2438 01:47:24,368 --> 01:47:25,404 Cheech said, 2439 01:47:25,508 --> 01:47:26,750 "No more stoner movies. 2440 01:47:26,854 --> 01:47:28,545 I want to do a movie without dope." 2441 01:47:28,649 --> 01:47:30,029 I said, "No problem." 2442 01:47:30,133 --> 01:47:32,791 You know, it's like doing a comedy show clean. 2443 01:47:32,894 --> 01:47:35,552 You know, work clean. And I-I love the challenge. 2444 01:47:35,656 --> 01:47:37,036 So I said, "Yeah, let's do it." 2445 01:47:40,315 --> 01:47:42,628 There's a lot of irony inThe Corsican Brothers 2446 01:47:42,732 --> 01:47:46,321 because it's a movie about feeling each other's pain. 2447 01:47:46,425 --> 01:47:48,254 Who are you, and what are you doing here? 2448 01:47:48,358 --> 01:47:49,773 I'm your brother Luis. 2449 01:47:49,877 --> 01:47:51,982 You're lying. My brother wasn't Mexican. 2450 01:47:52,086 --> 01:47:53,674 Look, it's me. 2451 01:47:53,777 --> 01:47:54,778 Ow! 2452 01:47:54,882 --> 01:47:57,160 There was a lot of meaning 2453 01:47:57,263 --> 01:47:58,886 in that movie. 2454 01:47:58,989 --> 01:48:00,612 Ah, Luis, Luis! 2455 01:48:00,715 --> 01:48:02,417 I didn't want to make amiable messes anymore. 2456 01:48:02,441 --> 01:48:04,719 I wanted to make more fully concentrated 2457 01:48:04,823 --> 01:48:06,238 and focused movies. 2458 01:48:06,341 --> 01:48:09,034 Tommy said, "I'm gonna write Corsican Brothers. 2459 01:48:09,137 --> 01:48:10,967 "I don't want any interference from you, 2460 01:48:11,070 --> 01:48:12,876 "and if you don't like it, give back the money 2461 01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:14,936 you received as an advance for the movie." 2462 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,491 He wanted to cut me out of the process that was 2463 01:48:17,594 --> 01:48:20,632 the lifeblood of Cheech & Chong. 2464 01:48:20,735 --> 01:48:24,912 Wow, you know, people do have different memories of... 2465 01:48:25,015 --> 01:48:27,949 different experiences of the same event. 2466 01:48:28,053 --> 01:48:29,813 And so I have to respect that, you know? 2467 01:48:29,917 --> 01:48:31,850 If that's what he feels that's what happened, 2468 01:48:31,953 --> 01:48:33,437 that's what, that... in his world, 2469 01:48:33,541 --> 01:48:34,680 that's what happened. 2470 01:48:34,784 --> 01:48:36,164 But not in my world. 2471 01:48:36,268 --> 01:48:39,133 Give me that! 2472 01:48:39,236 --> 01:48:40,341 Ow! 2473 01:48:40,444 --> 01:48:41,825 Cheech wasn't interested 2474 01:48:41,929 --> 01:48:44,483 in the hard part of directing a movie. 2475 01:48:44,587 --> 01:48:46,312 You know, the nuts and bolts. 2476 01:48:46,416 --> 01:48:47,417 He wasn't interested. 2477 01:48:47,521 --> 01:48:49,108 He just wanted to perform. 2478 01:48:49,212 --> 01:48:51,663 You know, "Turn on the camera and I'll perform." 2479 01:48:52,215 --> 01:48:55,321 He wanted some kind of control overThe Corsican Brothers, 2480 01:48:55,425 --> 01:48:57,910 which he never got. 2481 01:49:02,156 --> 01:49:03,744 After we wrapped Corsican Brothers, 2482 01:49:03,847 --> 01:49:06,885 I went back to Los Angeles. 2483 01:49:07,471 --> 01:49:11,648 My marriage to Rikki was unraveling at that point. 2484 01:49:12,166 --> 01:49:13,616 And that's when Cheech 2485 01:49:13,719 --> 01:49:16,170 really pulled away from me. 2486 01:49:16,273 --> 01:49:20,346 He was in a very transitional time of his life. 2487 01:49:20,933 --> 01:49:22,417 Tommy was content to go... 2488 01:49:22,521 --> 01:49:25,110 I think he lived in France for three or four years. 2489 01:49:25,213 --> 01:49:27,112 I didn't know how he was gonna be relevant 2490 01:49:27,215 --> 01:49:30,736 to the U.S. audience by living in Paris, 2491 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,567 but he wanted to bask in the South of France 2492 01:49:33,670 --> 01:49:36,397 and, uh... and exalt in his worldwide renown 2493 01:49:36,500 --> 01:49:38,295 as this comic genius director. 2494 01:49:39,331 --> 01:49:40,919 And I was just... I was lost. 2495 01:49:41,022 --> 01:49:44,163 I went home, smoked dope and played guitar. 2496 01:49:50,066 --> 01:49:53,379 And then one day, I looked up and I saw this brand-new thing. 2497 01:49:54,864 --> 01:49:57,004 I thought, "This is perfect for Cheech & Chong." 2498 01:49:57,107 --> 01:49:58,799 We're musicians, we're filmmakers, 2499 01:49:58,902 --> 01:50:00,145 and we're comedians. 2500 01:50:00,248 --> 01:50:02,423 We can make video albums. 2501 01:50:05,909 --> 01:50:07,566 So I figured I would write these tunes 2502 01:50:07,670 --> 01:50:09,016 and direct the videos, 2503 01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:11,294 and he would direct the mockumentary 2504 01:50:11,397 --> 01:50:12,813 that wrapped around it. 2505 01:50:12,916 --> 01:50:15,229 And we'll do this together and it'll be great. 2506 01:50:16,230 --> 01:50:18,059 Come on, man, let's do a video, man. 2507 01:50:18,163 --> 01:50:20,234 I don't want to do a video, all right? 2508 01:50:20,337 --> 01:50:21,442 Don't want to do it. 2509 01:50:21,545 --> 01:50:23,133 All right, then I'll do it myself. 2510 01:50:23,237 --> 01:50:24,583 Good, do it yourself. 2511 01:50:24,687 --> 01:50:25,826 I'll do a lot of videos. 2512 01:50:25,929 --> 01:50:27,690 Well, good. Good for you. 2513 01:50:27,793 --> 01:50:29,450 I'll be a vidiot. Ha-ha. 2514 01:50:29,553 --> 01:50:31,417 You are already a vidiot. 2515 01:50:31,521 --> 01:50:33,212 Forget you. 2516 01:50:35,629 --> 01:50:37,113 I needed one more tune 2517 01:50:37,216 --> 01:50:39,529 for the package, and I was reading this article 2518 01:50:39,633 --> 01:50:41,082 in theL.A. Times about this young 2519 01:50:41,186 --> 01:50:43,015 Mexican kid who got caught in a raid 2520 01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:45,224 and got deported, but he was American. 2521 01:50:45,328 --> 01:50:47,571 At the same time, Bruce Springsteen's record 2522 01:50:47,675 --> 01:50:49,021 was playing on the radio: 2523 01:50:49,125 --> 01:50:50,585 ♪ Born in the USA. So I started singing, 2524 01:50:50,609 --> 01:50:54,613 ♪ I was born in East L.A. 2525 01:50:54,717 --> 01:50:59,204 ♪ Man, I was born in East L.A. 2526 01:50:59,307 --> 01:51:01,068 Oh, yeah, you were born in East L.A. 2527 01:51:01,171 --> 01:51:03,415 Well, let's see your Green Card, huh? 2528 01:51:03,518 --> 01:51:04,761 Green Card? 2529 01:51:04,865 --> 01:51:06,418 ♪ I'm from East L.A. 2530 01:51:06,521 --> 01:51:09,559 I showed up for everything you ever wanted, right? 2531 01:51:09,663 --> 01:51:11,123 There wasn't anything you asked me to do 2532 01:51:11,147 --> 01:51:12,147 that I didn't do. 2533 01:51:12,217 --> 01:51:14,460 - I asked you one thing. - To be an extra. 2534 01:51:14,564 --> 01:51:15,876 No, it's not an extra. 2535 01:51:15,979 --> 01:51:18,050 It was the vital part of the middle of the song. 2536 01:51:18,154 --> 01:51:19,500 It was... it wasn't. 2537 01:51:19,603 --> 01:51:22,745 All right, all you mojados down here, 2538 01:51:22,848 --> 01:51:24,470 I want y'all to hit the floor. 2539 01:51:24,574 --> 01:51:26,093 A cop, of all things. 2540 01:51:26,196 --> 01:51:28,474 Not even my character. It's a cop. 2541 01:51:28,578 --> 01:51:29,924 You wanted me to be a cop. 2542 01:51:30,028 --> 01:51:32,133 Where were you born, man? 2543 01:51:32,237 --> 01:51:33,376 Huh? 2544 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,896 The Chong character doesn't do bit parts. 2545 01:51:35,999 --> 01:51:37,414 I protect my character. 2546 01:51:37,518 --> 01:51:39,865 Hey, are you one of those dudes that do horoscopes, man? 2547 01:51:39,969 --> 01:51:41,625 Hey, I'm a Cancer with a bad moon rising. 2548 01:51:41,729 --> 01:51:43,455 Look here, el vago. Watch my lips. 2549 01:51:43,558 --> 01:51:45,250 Where were you born? 2550 01:51:45,353 --> 01:51:46,838 And that's what it was. 2551 01:51:46,941 --> 01:51:48,678 - Well, that's the way you... - It was a fucking insult. 2552 01:51:48,702 --> 01:51:50,438 That's the way you perceived it because I was in charge of... 2553 01:51:50,462 --> 01:51:51,981 That's the way it was. 2554 01:51:54,224 --> 01:51:55,881 Born in East L.A. comes out. 2555 01:51:55,985 --> 01:51:57,469 It was a huge hit. 2556 01:51:57,572 --> 01:51:59,816 The head of Universal said, "I saw this video, 2557 01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:01,162 "I think that it's brilliant, 2558 01:52:01,266 --> 01:52:03,233 "and I think there's a movie there. 2559 01:52:03,337 --> 01:52:05,511 "But only for you. 2560 01:52:05,615 --> 01:52:07,272 "It's not a Cheech & Chong movie, 2561 01:52:07,375 --> 01:52:08,722 "it's a Cheech movie, 2562 01:52:08,825 --> 01:52:11,690 and I'm-I'm ready to do it right now." 2563 01:52:17,627 --> 01:52:19,284 At some point in the process, 2564 01:52:19,387 --> 01:52:21,458 the younger brother got old enough. 2565 01:52:21,562 --> 01:52:23,771 You weren't in the record. You weren't in the video. 2566 01:52:23,875 --> 01:52:25,704 The video prompted the film. 2567 01:52:25,808 --> 01:52:27,188 You weren't in it. 2568 01:52:27,292 --> 01:52:29,570 In my mind, I tried everything I-I could 2569 01:52:29,673 --> 01:52:30,778 to appease you. 2570 01:52:30,882 --> 01:52:35,058 I was tired of being excluded, and I... 2571 01:52:35,162 --> 01:52:37,440 But you never wrote for Cheech & Chong. 2572 01:52:37,543 --> 01:52:38,544 You wrote for Cheech. 2573 01:52:38,648 --> 01:52:40,857 Yeah. Okay. 2574 01:52:42,341 --> 01:52:44,067 Now, let's get the record straight. 2575 01:52:44,171 --> 01:52:47,001 You and Tommy Chong are no longer working together? 2576 01:52:47,105 --> 01:52:48,451 Well, just not right now. 2577 01:52:48,554 --> 01:52:50,015 We're taking a little hiatus, and we're doing 2578 01:52:50,039 --> 01:52:51,799 individual projects we've wanted to do 2579 01:52:51,903 --> 01:52:53,663 for a little while, and we'll probably 2580 01:52:53,767 --> 01:52:55,365 get back together again and do something, 2581 01:52:55,389 --> 01:52:57,805 you know, after a while. 2582 01:52:57,909 --> 01:52:59,334 And that's what happens when you break, 2583 01:52:59,358 --> 01:53:01,602 when you break the thing like that, it's broken. 2584 01:53:01,705 --> 01:53:03,397 I told you when you walked away 2585 01:53:03,500 --> 01:53:05,685 that, hey, I still want to make Cheech & Chong movies, but... 2586 01:53:05,709 --> 01:53:07,032 - Oh, that's bullshit. - I'm sorry... 2587 01:53:07,056 --> 01:53:08,436 I said I'm sorry... 2588 01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:09,713 That is bullshit, man. 2589 01:53:09,817 --> 01:53:11,336 You're really stretching it now. 2590 01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,958 I... Oh, please, Tommy. 2591 01:53:13,062 --> 01:53:15,202 Tommy Chong has had the limousines 2592 01:53:15,305 --> 01:53:16,962 and the millions that go with them, 2593 01:53:17,066 --> 01:53:18,826 but the gold mine that created them all, 2594 01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:21,725 the Cheech & Chong team, is no longer his team. 2595 01:53:21,829 --> 01:53:23,831 We're sort of in the middle of the divorce, 2596 01:53:23,935 --> 01:53:25,295 and I don't have another woman yet. 2597 01:53:26,558 --> 01:53:28,008 As far as a career goes. 2598 01:53:28,111 --> 01:53:30,596 Well, you were mad because I-I... I didn't want to 2599 01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:32,012 try to keep our career going. 2600 01:53:32,115 --> 01:53:33,644 -No, I... -I didn't want to keep you directing. 2601 01:53:33,668 --> 01:53:37,017 I didn't want to keep doing Cheech & Chong movies. 2602 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,950 I'm going to do the... 2603 01:53:39,053 --> 01:53:40,641 By the way, when I finish this one, 2604 01:53:40,744 --> 01:53:42,757 I still want to go back and do Cheech & Chong movies. 2605 01:53:42,781 --> 01:53:45,784 Do other members of a band go off and do solo albums, 2606 01:53:45,888 --> 01:53:47,130 then come back and do the band? 2607 01:53:47,234 --> 01:53:49,132 - Well, we're not a band. - Yes, we are. 2608 01:53:49,236 --> 01:53:51,272 - No, we're not. - We're absolutely a band. 2609 01:53:51,376 --> 01:53:56,484 Cheech, that "nice people on both sides" argument 2610 01:53:56,588 --> 01:53:58,038 does not work with us. 2611 01:53:58,141 --> 01:54:01,904 And Chong doesn't work as an extra, you know? 2612 01:54:03,319 --> 01:54:04,596 I'm not doing this anymore. 2613 01:54:06,529 --> 01:54:08,600 Cheech. Cheech. Get back in the car. 2614 01:54:08,703 --> 01:54:11,223 How you get the hell off this trailer? 2615 01:54:11,948 --> 01:54:14,054 Hey. 2616 01:54:14,157 --> 01:54:16,263 You got to be kidding me. 2617 01:54:16,366 --> 01:54:17,920 What the hell you think you're doing? 2618 01:54:18,023 --> 01:54:20,301 - Ever hear of safety? - We just... 2619 01:54:20,405 --> 01:54:22,372 I've been listening to you guys all day long, 2620 01:54:22,476 --> 01:54:25,686 and I don't care who you are, I want you off my trailer. 2621 01:54:25,789 --> 01:54:27,861 I'll... Okay, okay, I'll... 2622 01:54:27,964 --> 01:54:30,518 How-how do you get the fuck off of this? 2623 01:54:35,903 --> 01:54:38,009 - Oh, fuck. - What's the matter? 2624 01:54:38,112 --> 01:54:40,080 My knee, my knee. 2625 01:54:40,183 --> 01:54:41,183 How'd you do that? 2626 01:54:41,253 --> 01:54:42,703 Shit. Jumping off that rig. 2627 01:54:42,806 --> 01:54:44,843 Well, what did you do that for? 2628 01:54:44,947 --> 01:54:46,845 - -You okay? - Here, put your... Here. 2629 01:54:46,949 --> 01:54:48,951 Come here. Put your weight on me. 2630 01:54:49,054 --> 01:54:51,401 - All right, just shake it out. - Yeah, that's better. 2631 01:54:51,505 --> 01:54:53,058 There you go. 2632 01:54:55,854 --> 01:54:56,993 You okay now? 2633 01:54:57,097 --> 01:54:58,408 It's better, it's better. 2634 01:54:58,512 --> 01:55:00,041 - It's better now? You okay? - It's good. 2635 01:55:00,065 --> 01:55:01,170 - Yeah. - You can make it? 2636 01:55:01,273 --> 01:55:03,034 Yeah, I can make it. Yeah. 2637 01:55:05,968 --> 01:55:08,004 All that stuff that happened... 2638 01:55:08,108 --> 01:55:10,317 - Yeah. - Years ago, man. 2639 01:55:10,420 --> 01:55:12,767 I mean, why-why are we dwelling on it? 2640 01:55:12,871 --> 01:55:15,115 Why don't we just let it go? 2641 01:55:16,806 --> 01:55:18,118 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 2642 01:55:18,221 --> 01:55:20,016 I don't want to do this shit, either, 2643 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,570 but just, you drive me nuts! 2644 01:55:22,674 --> 01:55:25,021 No, but seriously, 2645 01:55:25,125 --> 01:55:28,576 we got to put all that bullshit behind us. 2646 01:55:30,751 --> 01:55:32,511 Okay. 2647 01:55:32,615 --> 01:55:34,720 Because we've got a whole beautiful life 2648 01:55:34,824 --> 01:55:37,206 ahead of us, you know? 2649 01:55:37,309 --> 01:55:38,655 Yeah. 2650 01:55:43,798 --> 01:55:46,594 Hey, Cheech. 2651 01:55:46,698 --> 01:55:48,010 What? 2652 01:55:53,981 --> 01:55:55,465 The Joint. 2653 01:55:57,467 --> 01:55:59,504 Yeah. 2654 01:55:59,607 --> 01:56:00,815 How's your knee? 2655 01:56:00,919 --> 01:56:02,645 My knee's good. 2656 01:56:02,748 --> 01:56:04,509 Hey, you know what I was thinking? 2657 01:56:04,612 --> 01:56:06,614 - Hmm? - That idea you had 2658 01:56:06,718 --> 01:56:08,651 about the marijuana wind farm? 2659 01:56:08,754 --> 01:56:09,928 Yeah? 2660 01:56:10,032 --> 01:56:11,619 How would that work? 2661 01:56:11,723 --> 01:56:16,003 Well, it's a great idea because the wind is free. 2662 01:56:16,107 --> 01:56:19,938 Yeah. We could work on that. 2663 01:56:20,042 --> 01:56:21,526 How much you think we can grow? 2664 01:56:21,629 --> 01:56:23,355 - Thousands of acres. - Yeah? 2665 01:56:23,459 --> 01:56:26,496 I mean, sky's the limit. 2666 01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:28,360 Everything's changing. 2667 01:56:28,464 --> 01:56:30,949 We got to prepare for the future. 2668 01:56:31,053 --> 01:56:33,020 Well, okay. 2669 01:56:33,607 --> 01:56:35,850 Will you grow your mustache back? 2670 01:56:35,954 --> 01:56:37,369 No. 2671 01:56:38,198 --> 01:56:39,751 No, seriously. 2672 01:56:39,854 --> 01:56:41,477 No. 2673 01:56:42,892 --> 01:56:44,825 Is that Dave's bike? 2674 01:56:44,928 --> 01:56:47,000 I don't know. 2675 01:57:02,498 --> 01:57:03,982 Is it true that you 2676 01:57:04,086 --> 01:57:06,329 once opened for Cheech & Chong? 2677 01:57:06,433 --> 01:57:09,022 - I did. - Where was that? 2678 01:57:09,125 --> 01:57:11,576 People forget, but Cheech & Chong were huge. 2679 01:57:11,679 --> 01:57:12,680 Oh, sure. Yeah. 2680 01:57:12,784 --> 01:57:14,406 Huge at the time. 2681 01:57:15,373 --> 01:57:17,271 Hey, man, it's Dave. Open up, man. 2682 01:57:17,375 --> 01:57:19,825 Dave's not here, man. 2683 01:57:21,551 --> 01:57:22,897 The guy's so high, 2684 01:57:23,001 --> 01:57:24,830 he doesn't even know that's Dave. 2685 01:57:24,934 --> 01:57:27,109 Homer. Homer? 2686 01:57:27,212 --> 01:57:29,490 Homer's not here, man. 2687 01:57:29,594 --> 01:57:31,354 - Cheech. - What is Camelot? 2688 01:57:31,458 --> 01:57:33,425 - Yes. Cheech. - What is a baster? 2689 01:57:33,529 --> 01:57:34,540 Yes. You're the winner today. 2690 01:57:34,564 --> 01:57:36,739 Your charity will get $50,000, 2691 01:57:36,842 --> 01:57:40,846 and Aisha and Anderson's charities $25,000 each. 2692 01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:43,539 ♪ I got the Rollie on my arm and I'm pourin' Chandon ♪ 2693 01:57:43,642 --> 01:57:46,714 ♪ And I roll the best 'cause I got it goin' on ♪ 2694 01:57:46,818 --> 01:57:48,337 ♪ I'm a gangsta... 2695 01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:51,029 You do need a paint job, man. 2696 01:57:51,133 --> 01:57:52,410 Anything you want. 2697 01:57:52,513 --> 01:57:54,101 You know, like a flame job. 2698 01:57:54,205 --> 01:57:55,930 - No, thanks. - Maybe ghost flames. 2699 01:57:56,034 --> 01:57:57,314 You like old-school pinstriping? 2700 01:57:57,380 --> 01:57:58,864 Von Dutch style, huh? 2701 01:57:58,968 --> 01:58:00,073 - Whoa. - Oh! 2702 01:58:00,176 --> 01:58:01,902 - Om... - Hello? Hello? 2703 01:58:03,904 --> 01:58:06,389 - Hmm? - Hello. My name is... 2704 01:58:06,493 --> 01:58:08,426 Oh, you know, I'm gonna hit the pause button 2705 01:58:08,529 --> 01:58:10,911 right there, 'cause we're all good on 2706 01:58:11,014 --> 01:58:12,775 Bunny Scout cookies. 2707 01:58:12,878 --> 01:58:16,192 From marijuana movie icon to patron of the arts, 2708 01:58:16,296 --> 01:58:17,918 Cheech Marin's massive collection 2709 01:58:18,021 --> 01:58:20,783 of Chicano art and culture has toured the world 2710 01:58:20,886 --> 01:58:23,268 and now has a permanent home. 2711 01:58:23,372 --> 01:58:25,339 Tommy Chong was sentenced 2712 01:58:25,443 --> 01:58:27,410 to nine months in federal prison 2713 01:58:27,514 --> 01:58:30,620 for selling bongs on the Internet. 2714 01:58:32,415 --> 01:58:34,693 Lou Adler, man, is a treasure, 2715 01:58:34,797 --> 01:58:37,765 and hopefully we'll be up here one day 2716 01:58:37,869 --> 01:58:40,147 accepting an award for being 2717 01:58:40,251 --> 01:58:43,116 the first rock and roll comedians 2718 01:58:43,219 --> 01:58:45,359 to be indicted into... oh, indicted 2719 01:58:45,463 --> 01:58:47,050 - into the Hall of Fame. - "Indicted." 2720 01:58:47,154 --> 01:58:48,604 We should indict Lou Adler 2721 01:58:48,707 --> 01:58:50,468 to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 2722 01:58:50,571 --> 01:58:51,814 What do you say? 2723 02:00:00,469 --> 02:00:02,069 Cheech & Chong, ladies and gentlemen, 2724 02:00:02,125 --> 02:00:03,437 Cheech & Chong! 2725 02:00:04,852 --> 02:00:07,027 Weren't they great? 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