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We'll see you. 3 00:00:18,184 --> 00:00:19,184 See you. 4 00:00:22,772 --> 00:00:25,859 For the Family, it's all about relationships. 5 00:00:26,276 --> 00:00:29,612 The personal, brother-to-brother relationship. 6 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:42,625 When I was in my 20s, I lived with those guys. 7 00:00:46,629 --> 00:00:48,381 I stumbled my way in. 8 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,971 And what I found was a secretive Christian organization, 9 00:00:55,764 --> 00:00:59,684 and one of the most influential religious groups in Washington. 10 00:01:04,355 --> 00:01:07,067 And I thought, "There's so much going on here. 11 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:10,820 And their commitment to keeping a secret is scary." 12 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:15,241 This was a story that needed to be told. 13 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:18,036 So, how do you escape Pharaoh? 14 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:20,914 You walk. 15 00:01:29,547 --> 00:01:30,547 Please. 16 00:01:35,845 --> 00:01:37,555 So, why are we here, Jeff? 17 00:01:38,681 --> 00:01:39,933 I... I don't know. 18 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:42,727 I thought you were doing so well. 19 00:01:44,729 --> 00:01:46,689 I was. I... I am. 20 00:01:49,442 --> 00:01:51,653 Jesus brought you here for a reason, Jeff. 21 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:55,156 Jesus wants you here. 22 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:59,035 Yeah, well, maybe Jesus wants me to leave. 23 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:08,002 You know who we are. 24 00:02:08,711 --> 00:02:09,796 Of course. 25 00:02:11,005 --> 00:02:12,005 Discretion... 26 00:02:14,008 --> 00:02:15,593 is very important to us. 27 00:02:34,404 --> 00:02:36,698 We were documented, of course, by... 28 00:02:37,448 --> 00:02:40,201 an undercover... a journalist. 29 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:43,413 Uh, you know, for lack of a better word, a fox in a hen-house. 30 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:47,667 He was definitely looking for a story, 31 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:50,230 and he wanted the story to say what he wanted the story to say. 32 00:02:52,213 --> 00:02:56,718 This "shadow elite in the halls of power" sort of thing. 33 00:03:00,263 --> 00:03:02,515 Uh, you know, which, 34 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:05,560 from the vantage point of some guys living together, 35 00:03:05,643 --> 00:03:08,229 learning how to work out their disagreements, it just... 36 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:09,564 It seemed a bit far-fetched. 37 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:15,111 When you left Ivanwald and you wrote the book, 38 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:16,946 had you thought to yourself, 39 00:03:17,405 --> 00:03:20,116 "Maybe, like, I... I got it wrong, or... 40 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,887 I mean, I'm sure people have accused you of being a conspiracy theorist. 41 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:24,662 - Yeah. - Do you ever think, like... 42 00:03:24,746 --> 00:03:26,372 Like, did you ever question yourself? 43 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:29,709 Um, you know, it's funny, 'cause I wrote two books about them, 44 00:03:29,792 --> 00:03:31,794 and I tried to give them both happy endings. 45 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:34,923 Uh, they weren't happy experiences, reporting these books. 46 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:40,511 You know, to encounter the darkest expression of religious life 47 00:03:40,595 --> 00:03:42,597 that I'd found in 20 years. 48 00:03:44,015 --> 00:03:47,685 People who believe that they are chosen by God for leadership. 49 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:53,566 And that success in politics or business is evidence 50 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:56,152 of God's blessing. 51 00:03:57,654 --> 00:03:59,656 So if God has chosen you to be in power, 52 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:01,491 who am I to refute that? 53 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:03,952 I'm to serve God by helping you stay in power, 54 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:06,162 pretty much by any means necessary. 55 00:04:16,547 --> 00:04:20,426 Hark! All worry will be left behind. 56 00:04:21,052 --> 00:04:25,974 All disappointment, too, will be gone forever. 57 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:32,897 We adopted a program for a worldwide spiritual offensive. 58 00:04:36,025 --> 00:04:38,111 I know, as never before, 59 00:04:38,861 --> 00:04:41,239 that we are all God's children. 60 00:04:43,366 --> 00:04:46,744 There's only one thing we can take with us through that door: 61 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:50,748 those whom we have led to the Savior. 62 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:52,124 Fear him. 63 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:53,418 Love him. 64 00:04:53,501 --> 00:04:55,503 Submit yourself, completely. 65 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,463 Then you will be his disciple. 66 00:04:58,214 --> 00:05:01,426 What we have begun, we will finish. 67 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:27,744 ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ 68 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:29,412 ♪ Glory ♪ 69 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:32,749 ♪ Glory, hallelujah ♪ 70 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:38,629 ♪ His truth is marching on ♪ 71 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:42,425 I had been an investigative reporter for a long time for the Miami Herald. 72 00:05:44,052 --> 00:05:46,262 Florida Governor Lawton Childs died. 73 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:48,473 At the memorial service for him, 74 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:51,225 there was a man who I had never seen before. 75 00:05:52,518 --> 00:05:54,270 Everyone seemed to know this guy. 76 00:05:54,645 --> 00:05:57,231 And I noticed an old source of mine, 77 00:05:57,315 --> 00:06:01,402 and he said, "He's the most powerful man in Washington you've never heard of." 78 00:06:01,486 --> 00:06:03,821 And I said, "What's his name?" And he said, "Doug Coe." 79 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:07,325 He said, "He's like the Wizard of Oz." 80 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,745 I'd like to single out Doug Coe, 81 00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:12,705 who's been such a guiding light. 82 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:15,917 Doug Coe and all of his associates... I'm grateful. 83 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:22,590 I knew from my source that Doug Coe 84 00:06:22,673 --> 00:06:24,592 frequently traveled around the world, 85 00:06:24,675 --> 00:06:26,386 and met with heads of state. 86 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,180 He had close ties with presidents, 87 00:06:29,889 --> 00:06:31,015 foreign leaders, 88 00:06:31,891 --> 00:06:35,895 and enormous behind-the-scenes influence with members of Congress. 89 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:42,985 Doug Coe is the longtime leader of the Family, 90 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,405 who took over in 1969. 91 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:51,911 He was this awkward guy out of Oregon, and he wasn't well-known in Washington. 92 00:06:52,912 --> 00:06:54,956 But he's the one who decided that the Family 93 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:56,541 should be an off-the-record group, 94 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:58,584 hidden and invisible. 95 00:06:59,335 --> 00:07:02,505 He said, "The more invisible you can make your organization, 96 00:07:02,588 --> 00:07:04,674 the more influence it will have." 97 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:07,051 This event brings us together for fellowship, 98 00:07:07,135 --> 00:07:10,263 and it's a good chance to see who gets up early in Washington. 99 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:15,768 The National Prayer Breakfast: their annual event held in Washington, 100 00:07:15,852 --> 00:07:19,147 first Thursday of every February since 1953. 101 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:20,690 Every president attends. 102 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:25,987 And no one asks who's putting on this event, 103 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:29,365 but in fact, it's produced by Doug Coe. 104 00:07:31,576 --> 00:07:36,581 And when Time magazine did a list of 25 most powerful Evangelicals, 105 00:07:36,664 --> 00:07:39,083 Doug Coe's heading was "The Stealth Persuader." 106 00:07:42,753 --> 00:07:44,505 Doug Coe was a fine Christian, 107 00:07:44,589 --> 00:07:50,344 and his role within the Washington political community, you might say, 108 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:53,639 was to find those who shared his Christian faith 109 00:07:54,098 --> 00:07:56,559 and to offer guidance for us. 110 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,147 President Anwar Sadat 111 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:03,024 and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin 112 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:07,612 were brought together by President Carter at an isolated retreat, Camp David. 113 00:08:07,778 --> 00:08:09,155 When I was president, 114 00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:11,574 Doug Coe was the one that got his prayer group 115 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:15,369 to draft a common prayer for peace between Israel and Egypt, 116 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:18,164 and that we would have success at Camp David. 117 00:08:19,123 --> 00:08:21,000 The first thing upon which we agreed was... 118 00:08:21,834 --> 00:08:23,461 to ask the people of the world... 119 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:26,797 to pray that our negotiations would be successful. 120 00:08:27,715 --> 00:08:30,718 I think that prayer bound us together immediately. 121 00:08:31,761 --> 00:08:34,680 And of course, in many ways we had success. 122 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:36,825 It'll be the first time in history 123 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:39,936 that an Arab nation has agreed to a peace treaty with Israel. 124 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:47,151 What Doug Doe helped me realize is that people of all faiths, um... 125 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:49,779 uh, can relate to Jesus. He died for everyone. 126 00:08:51,155 --> 00:08:54,033 He said, "Wherever you go, whoever you meet, 127 00:08:54,116 --> 00:08:57,078 lift up the name of Jesus. There's power in the name of Jesus. 128 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,164 And if you have time, if you're in relationship, 129 00:09:00,456 --> 00:09:01,582 uh, you can go deeper." 130 00:09:03,459 --> 00:09:05,086 When people would come and say to me, 131 00:09:05,169 --> 00:09:07,213 "Doug, it's so great, these people following you," 132 00:09:07,296 --> 00:09:09,799 then I'd say, "I don't want them to follow me. 133 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:14,345 That isn't the work. The work is them following Jesus. 134 00:09:15,846 --> 00:09:18,099 And as quick as you can, get out of the way." 135 00:09:26,148 --> 00:09:28,693 Doug was brought into my life 136 00:09:28,776 --> 00:09:33,114 back in the late 1990s, 2000, at a golf tournament. 137 00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:36,492 Doug loved to golf. His youngest son... 138 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:40,246 uh, died of cancer, and loved playing golf, 139 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:42,206 and he carried on a memorial in his name. 140 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:44,709 And it was just a way for Doug to connect with people. 141 00:09:45,876 --> 00:09:48,045 Have a few moments after a dinner or something 142 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:49,630 where he would talk to the group. 143 00:09:49,714 --> 00:09:52,508 He would leave them with a thought, challenge them with a thought. 144 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:55,553 He was very kind, 145 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:57,263 very knowledgeable. 146 00:09:57,888 --> 00:10:00,266 A man filled with the spirit, without a doubt. 147 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,770 I was there with John Ensign. 148 00:10:05,229 --> 00:10:07,273 He was a senator out of Nevada. 149 00:10:07,898 --> 00:10:10,318 Charismatic, carried himself well. 150 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:15,573 Had a big name in the state. Everyone knew where he came from. 151 00:10:15,656 --> 00:10:19,160 In 1906, my great-grandparents settled here in northern Nevada. 152 00:10:19,243 --> 00:10:21,996 I was raised here, played basketball for Whittell High. 153 00:10:23,372 --> 00:10:25,252 His father was in the casino business, 154 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,668 an executive at the time for Circus Circus. 155 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:31,589 So, he just had a lot of the right ingredients, I think, 156 00:10:31,672 --> 00:10:33,049 that the public liked. 157 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:38,512 We were best friends. I mean, we were inseparable. 158 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:41,474 And when he was elected to his Senate seat, 159 00:10:42,099 --> 00:10:44,268 I became John's right-hand guy. 160 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:49,023 We both wanted to be Promise Keepers... 161 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:50,983 good husbands... 162 00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:54,487 and followers of the teachings of Jesus. 163 00:10:56,072 --> 00:10:59,533 And that's what was really compelling about meeting Doug Coe. 164 00:11:02,244 --> 00:11:06,916 Doug broke Christianity and the teachings of Jesus down simplistically. 165 00:11:14,256 --> 00:11:16,217 He said Jesus was a leader. 166 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:20,221 So we had these leadership characteristics and traits. 167 00:11:23,265 --> 00:11:24,433 And he used congressmen, 168 00:11:24,934 --> 00:11:26,811 presidents, world leaders, 169 00:11:27,103 --> 00:11:28,729 to bring good in the world. 170 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:35,111 And that's why we're supposed to minister to our leadership, 171 00:11:36,737 --> 00:11:37,863 to help that happen. 172 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:45,788 It's easy to see why Doug had the influence that he did. 173 00:11:47,832 --> 00:11:49,625 It was very captivating, 174 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:53,754 and I watched powerful people, wealthy people, 175 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:58,676 listen, uh, really listen, um, and want to hear more. 176 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:07,852 Members of Congress, 177 00:12:08,185 --> 00:12:11,313 - it's a pretty exclusive club. - Few more for me, right here. 178 00:12:11,397 --> 00:12:14,984 You're revered, in a... in an odd sort of way. 179 00:12:15,109 --> 00:12:18,446 Um, members of... of the military salute you. 180 00:12:18,529 --> 00:12:21,073 Uh, you have Capitol police that are there to protect you, 181 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:25,411 and you're entrusted with this incredible responsibility. 182 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:27,329 You're governing the country. 183 00:12:28,539 --> 00:12:30,166 Yet you are human being, 184 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:33,127 with fears and anxiety... 185 00:12:33,627 --> 00:12:36,005 and hurts and disappointments. 186 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:40,885 And you also need to be, um, ministered to. 187 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:45,306 Doug really understood that. 188 00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:53,230 One of the reasons I wanted this gentleman here 189 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:54,982 is that he's part of the reason 190 00:12:55,065 --> 00:12:56,945 why the two of you were praying together, right? 191 00:12:57,359 --> 00:12:59,153 - Right. - How did Doug Coe... 192 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:02,865 encourage the two of you to... 'Cause you're a D, right? 193 00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:04,742 - Right. Right. - And he was an R. 194 00:13:04,825 --> 00:13:06,243 How did that all happen? 195 00:13:09,413 --> 00:13:12,750 From the very beginning, the Family had conservative Republicans 196 00:13:12,833 --> 00:13:14,126 and Democrats. 197 00:13:15,169 --> 00:13:18,130 The idea was, "Let us find the key men 198 00:13:18,756 --> 00:13:21,133 put in positions of power by God, 199 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:22,551 and let us speak to them." 200 00:13:24,053 --> 00:13:25,262 When I had interviewed Doug, 201 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:29,391 he had said to me the real power was in the little groups that met... 202 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:34,146 whether they were at Cedars or whether they were at the CIA or the Pentagon 203 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,982 or were the core group of members of Congress. 204 00:13:37,566 --> 00:13:40,653 If you were willing to sit and discuss Jesus with Doug Coe, 205 00:13:40,736 --> 00:13:41,737 you became part of it. 206 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,118 There are a lot of, uh, informal and formal conversations about faith, 207 00:13:48,202 --> 00:13:49,662 uh, here in Washington, D.C. 208 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:53,332 Every Wednesday morning, about 25 senators get together. 209 00:13:53,415 --> 00:13:55,292 It's a bipartisan group. Uh... 210 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:57,962 We don't talk about politics there. We just pray together. 211 00:13:58,045 --> 00:13:59,129 We'll sing a hymn together, 212 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:02,253 and one of the senators will stand up and talk about their spiritual journey. 213 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:05,803 You know, we call it the best hour of the week. 214 00:14:06,595 --> 00:14:09,056 The Senate meets for an hour on Wednesday morning, bipartisan. 215 00:14:09,139 --> 00:14:11,767 The House meets on Thursday morning, bipartisan. 216 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:17,064 And in no way as kind of an agenda, or some kind of a conspiracy move... 217 00:14:17,147 --> 00:14:18,232 It's just more... 218 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,653 "How can we walk through this, uh, difficult job, 219 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:26,991 and stay grounded, doing the Lord's work in the devil's playground?" 220 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:34,164 Member-to-member, we get each other. 221 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:37,585 You know, if you open up to me, that's a trust factor, 222 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:39,962 and there's some value to that. 223 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:44,216 Because the old joke in D.C. is, "If you want a friend, get a dog, 224 00:14:44,592 --> 00:14:46,385 because you can't trust anybody else here." 225 00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:54,727 It's happening in state governments. 226 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:56,645 It's happening in the military. 227 00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:00,107 In the Cabinet. Uh, you know, throughout Washington. 228 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:03,485 It's just remarkable what happens, when people come together, 229 00:15:03,736 --> 00:15:06,238 um, in a spirit of fellowship and prayer. 230 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:12,095 Some wonderful things have come out of this Fellowship. 231 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:16,040 A number of public figures have changed as human beings; 232 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:20,169 changed in ways I'd like to talk about, but it might reveal too much. 233 00:15:21,462 --> 00:15:24,423 Our founding fathers knew that their hope was in prayer. 234 00:15:25,215 --> 00:15:27,968 And that's why our Declaration of Independence begins 235 00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:29,845 with an affirmation of faith; 236 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:32,723 because they knew that no man, no nation, 237 00:15:33,223 --> 00:15:36,101 could grow in freedom without divine guidance. 238 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:39,104 And as Benjamin Franklin said, 239 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:42,858 "I have lived a long time, and the longer I live, 240 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,903 the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: 241 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:49,490 that God governs in the affairs of men." 242 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:08,050 Temporarily we're not going to work visibly together on visible projects, 243 00:16:08,717 --> 00:16:11,136 but I believe you are a Family member. 244 00:16:12,262 --> 00:16:13,889 We don't think you do everything right, 245 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:16,517 but we don't think you do everything wrong. 246 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,478 But we are brothers, and we will learn to grow, and we love you. 247 00:16:19,561 --> 00:16:20,997 - Okay. - Because the Bible says, 248 00:16:21,021 --> 00:16:24,191 "Even if the gospel is preached in strife or contention, 249 00:16:24,608 --> 00:16:26,026 I rejoice." 250 00:16:26,110 --> 00:16:28,862 So, if you fight everybody and do everything wrong, 251 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:30,739 according to the way I think, 252 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,491 I'm not going to run you down. 253 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:34,576 I'm not going to say anything negative. 254 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,495 You say, "I am committed. 255 00:16:36,578 --> 00:16:38,080 I am looking forward to the day 256 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:41,625 one day, one month, one year, five years, 257 00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:44,336 when we will absolutely be one in Jesus Christ." 258 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:45,420 Hmm. 259 00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:49,675 And if there's anything I can specifically do as you carry on the work, 260 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:51,010 - I will do it... - Hmm. 261 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:54,513 ...because we want our Family to stay together. 262 00:16:54,596 --> 00:16:56,432 - Right? - Amen. Yes. 263 00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:09,278 "Understanding how we are proceeding," 264 00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:10,654 by Doug Coe. 265 00:17:11,739 --> 00:17:15,159 We should not draw conclusions about what is right or wrong 266 00:17:15,242 --> 00:17:18,871 before we have all the factors in and are discussing them together. 267 00:17:20,372 --> 00:17:21,957 We are at a crossroads. 268 00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:28,005 The right man at the right place at the right time can change history. 269 00:17:34,928 --> 00:17:36,680 When I was a member of the Family, 270 00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,974 always we were talking about strength. 271 00:17:39,683 --> 00:17:43,520 Jesus says, "You must go to those who are in positions of power." 272 00:17:47,107 --> 00:17:49,193 And I remember one of the senior brothers 273 00:17:49,276 --> 00:17:52,488 talking to me about the metaphor of the sheep and the wolf. 274 00:17:57,951 --> 00:18:00,120 He says, "You think Christ came for the sheep, right?" 275 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:02,206 And I said, "Yes, yes, of course." 276 00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:04,711 He said, "You know, it's good to love the sheep, 277 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:06,168 but who's going to love the wolf? 278 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,837 And you know what? 279 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:11,965 If you can get the wolf alongside you, 280 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:14,218 wolf'll get everyone else in line pretty quick." 281 00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:18,180 And so we don't worry about the sheep. 282 00:18:19,139 --> 00:18:22,559 We must go out and reach the wolf king. 283 00:18:24,019 --> 00:18:27,189 How do you get the wolf king? You show him that you have a great power. 284 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:38,492 It was pretty well-known on Capitol Hill that... 285 00:18:39,034 --> 00:18:41,829 Doug's influence was great. 286 00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:47,292 Presidencies change. 287 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:51,672 Offices change hands, and organizations will change. 288 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,135 But Doug, he's been around for 50 years. 289 00:18:57,302 --> 00:18:58,720 So he became this... 290 00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:04,184 conduit of relationships in Washington that transcended political parties, 291 00:19:04,268 --> 00:19:06,645 that transcended time, so to speak. 292 00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:10,774 And I think the senators and the congressman in the House 293 00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:12,234 were a little enamored with that. 294 00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:19,366 Ladies and gentlemen, the honorable John Ensign from Nevada. 295 00:19:20,367 --> 00:19:24,037 John liked the fact that Doug was very influential, 296 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,915 because John wanted the White House. 297 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:28,667 Are you as fired up as I am? 298 00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:32,462 And he believed, with all of his heart, 299 00:19:33,046 --> 00:19:34,798 he could get there. 300 00:19:39,052 --> 00:19:41,680 Doug saw John as a dynamic leader, 301 00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:43,932 and someone who was going to be 302 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:46,393 deeply entrenched in Washington for a long time. 303 00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:49,980 So he made it a point too, to be more involved in John. 304 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:56,403 His sons, Tim Coe and David Coe, 305 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:59,448 that really kind of oversaw C Street, 306 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:01,283 reached out to John personally. 307 00:20:03,118 --> 00:20:05,162 This just bolstered their resume. 308 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:09,291 You know, "We landed the... the number one draft choice," so to speak. 309 00:20:10,959 --> 00:20:13,086 So John moved into C Street. 310 00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:22,804 The house on C Street is a three-story red brick townhouse 311 00:20:23,138 --> 00:20:25,349 on a very lovely street, right on Capitol Hill. 312 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:30,938 And it's for congressmen who want to live in brotherhood, 313 00:20:31,021 --> 00:20:33,190 the way the Ivanwald brothers did. 314 00:20:35,817 --> 00:20:39,112 That idea goes back to the founder, Abraham Vereide, 315 00:20:39,196 --> 00:20:41,573 who had a vision of a place called Tregaron, 316 00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:45,702 where politicians could live in fellowship with Christ. 317 00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:51,625 My first two years, we lived on D Street. 318 00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:56,922 It was me and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Steve Largent, the football player. 319 00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:01,176 And we started meeting in a small group weekly with two Democrats, 320 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,594 Mike Doyle and Bart Stupak. 321 00:21:02,678 --> 00:21:05,472 And then the notion was floated, "What if we live together? 322 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:07,849 In a bipartisan way, Democrats and Republicans, 323 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:13,105 where we could actually experience this walk through Congress together, 324 00:21:13,522 --> 00:21:14,648 across party lines, 325 00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:17,651 and kind of set an example of what can come out of this." 326 00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:23,949 C Street is 8,000 square feet. 327 00:21:24,199 --> 00:21:25,909 It has 12 bedrooms, 328 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:27,953 nine bathrooms, 329 00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:30,956 five living rooms, four dining rooms, 330 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,834 three offices, a kitchen, and a small chapel. 331 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,795 And it was like a private club, you know, 332 00:21:36,878 --> 00:21:39,131 except that it was designated a church. 333 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:48,390 C Street is one of the many ways that the Family exercises their influence 334 00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:53,186 with the more public Christian right organizations, 335 00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:58,025 those kind of Southern Bible-Belt conservatives 336 00:21:58,108 --> 00:21:59,943 railing against homosexuality. 337 00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:02,064 Louis Sheldon, for instance, 338 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:05,157 was the leader of something called the Traditional Values Coalition. 339 00:22:05,449 --> 00:22:10,746 He's spoken of using C Street as a place for both reaching out to congressmen, 340 00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:14,041 and also for talking to foreign leaders. 341 00:22:16,793 --> 00:22:19,212 And so the Family is maybe in some ways 342 00:22:19,296 --> 00:22:21,590 best understood as an incubator. 343 00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:25,510 They say the groups as themselves don't take action. 344 00:22:26,261 --> 00:22:27,846 They seek common ground. 345 00:22:28,638 --> 00:22:30,807 And out of that, action grows. 346 00:22:35,562 --> 00:22:37,731 Clearly they had a vision... 347 00:22:37,814 --> 00:22:39,134 Organizing the invisible... 348 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:41,544 ...but it was really hard to get people to talk about it. 349 00:22:41,568 --> 00:22:43,362 No membership. No organization. 350 00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:44,446 No publicity... 351 00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,740 They all kept this secrecy. 352 00:22:48,658 --> 00:22:49,951 I remember spending a long time 353 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,579 trying to track down this list of everyone who lived there. 354 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:55,966 You know, you'd ask about members of Congress who lived at C Street... 355 00:22:55,999 --> 00:22:57,479 "I'm not allowed to talk about that." 356 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:00,587 And that made me wonder. 357 00:23:01,129 --> 00:23:04,549 What was going on behind the scenes that needed to be a big secret? 358 00:23:11,348 --> 00:23:14,851 Senator John Ensign was one of our brothers, one of our friends. 359 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,688 Met in a small group, lived with us at C Street. 360 00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,650 We would break bread together. We would pray together. 361 00:23:22,484 --> 00:23:24,903 And he's a good man. He just made a big mistake. 362 00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:42,212 It was the last week in November of 2007. 363 00:23:45,173 --> 00:23:47,342 My home got burglarized. 364 00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:52,681 As a result, we ended up staying with the Ensigns. 365 00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:57,811 And somehow John and Cindy found themselves in a relationship. 366 00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:02,732 I think some things may have happened prior to that, 367 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:04,568 but I wasn't listening. 368 00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:11,908 Um, initially we came together as a family, 369 00:24:11,992 --> 00:24:16,538 and... and really, genuinely, all of us sat down and... and addressed... 370 00:24:17,622 --> 00:24:19,416 what were we going to let this do? 371 00:24:20,375 --> 00:24:21,960 I was an emotional wreck. 372 00:24:22,043 --> 00:24:23,795 I was just coming undone. 373 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:26,381 I'm watching my family come undone. 374 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:28,758 But John had promised me 375 00:24:28,842 --> 00:24:31,678 that this was the biggest mistake he'd ever made in his life. 376 00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:36,224 Um, wanted desperately to... to not let this ruin all of our lives. 377 00:24:37,392 --> 00:24:40,479 So we tried to handle it internally for a little bit. 378 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:48,778 In early February, we went back to work... 379 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:50,339 ...a couple of takeaways that I have... 380 00:24:50,363 --> 00:24:53,742 ...and I discovered that some things were still going on. 381 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,037 So I called up Tim... 382 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,038 Tim Coe? 383 00:24:58,121 --> 00:25:01,249 ...Tim Coe, and I said, "I need to see you right now." 384 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:03,543 Um... 385 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:08,882 This might be a day, I think, before the... Valentine's Day. 386 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:12,969 I wanted to try to go to Doug, 387 00:25:13,053 --> 00:25:15,597 but Doug was out of the country at that time. 388 00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,975 So we called Senator Tom Coburn from Oklahoma, 389 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:21,269 and I shared what I had found, 390 00:25:21,895 --> 00:25:23,688 the text, all of it. 391 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:30,487 I'll never forget the night that we found out that, uh... 392 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:34,032 that he had, uh, fallen, so to speak. 393 00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,867 Um... 394 00:25:35,951 --> 00:25:39,621 Steve Largent put his foot down and said, "We've got to go confront him." 395 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:41,540 And Tom Coburn said, "You're right." 396 00:25:42,290 --> 00:25:46,461 And within minutes, we were sitting in front of him saying, 397 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,588 "You don't have any choice here. 398 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,758 You gotta confess, you gotta repent, 399 00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:54,511 you gotta tell 100% of the truth. You gotta go to your wife. 400 00:25:54,594 --> 00:25:56,834 You gotta reconcile, you gotta keep your family together. 401 00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:00,725 That's what this Fellowship, this accountability, is all about. 402 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,357 Ensign exploded. 403 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,150 He was so angry 404 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:11,361 that I had exposed this. 405 00:26:11,945 --> 00:26:14,948 He was more upset that I had shared the information 406 00:26:15,031 --> 00:26:17,158 than what was really going on. 407 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:23,331 But Tom and Tim Coe said, "We're gonna fix this. 408 00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:25,750 You're gonna have to tell her right now. 409 00:26:25,834 --> 00:26:27,294 You're going to stop seeing her. 410 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,421 You know, we're gonna nip this in the bud." 411 00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:33,675 So John writes out this letter. 412 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:38,305 "I've made the biggest mistake of my life. I'm wrong. 413 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:42,601 I've dishonored God, I've dishonored the Lord." 414 00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:48,940 And they FedEx it to Cindy, to Las Vegas, that afternoon. 415 00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:53,570 I literally left that house, 416 00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:57,907 went straight to Dulles, got on a plane, and flew home. 417 00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:04,623 And that weekend, John and Cindy went to a hotel, 418 00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:06,499 and I caught them at that hotel. 419 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:12,422 You know, I was just beside myself in the parking lot, looking at their cars. 420 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:17,927 And so I called Tim and said I had found them. 421 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:21,806 The letter thing didn't work at all. 422 00:27:24,684 --> 00:27:27,812 I think Tim really genuinely believed I was going to go in and kill him. 423 00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:31,441 And he asked me, he begged me, to leave. 424 00:27:32,108 --> 00:27:34,361 You know, don't wait around for John to come out. 425 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:44,537 I believed that because I had solicited the help of the Coes and Tom, 426 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:49,125 that there was just no way on Earth that this was just going to be ignored. 427 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:54,673 We were supposed to be Promise Keepers. 428 00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:56,675 Good husbands. 429 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,886 And this does not line up with that. 430 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:05,725 Then I started learning, you know, 431 00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:09,229 about the things that they had been involved with, 432 00:28:09,312 --> 00:28:13,942 with regards to other, you know, relationships. 433 00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:18,822 And now these things start to make more sense. 434 00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:21,783 Gentlemen, this is Charles Colson. 435 00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:23,868 - Congressman. - Chuck. 436 00:28:24,994 --> 00:28:26,037 Shall we, gentlemen? 437 00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:28,123 Colson, I'm not much for small talk. 438 00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:29,708 Let's get to why we're here. 439 00:28:30,291 --> 00:28:33,962 Doug Coe tells me you've had some sort of an experience with Jesus Christ. 440 00:28:34,921 --> 00:28:35,921 That's right, Senator. 441 00:28:37,173 --> 00:28:38,174 Tell us what happened. 442 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,971 Charles Colson was special counsel to President Nixon. 443 00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:44,848 That was his official title, 444 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:46,216 but most people in government 445 00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:48,601 thought of Chuck Colson as Nixon's hatchet man, 446 00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:50,979 the guy who took on the dirty jobs and got them done. 447 00:28:51,187 --> 00:28:55,692 In 1974, Colson pleaded guilty to one count of obstruction of justice. 448 00:28:55,775 --> 00:28:58,027 He served seven months in federal prison. 449 00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:01,865 At 44, he is, in his own words, devoting his life to Christ, 450 00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:05,660 working for a Christian non-denominational organization called Fellowship. 451 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,121 I have committed my life to Jesus Christ. 452 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:10,749 I can work for the Lord 453 00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:13,084 in prison or out of prison. 454 00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:15,503 That's how I want to spend my life. 455 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,307 Good morning. 456 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:20,216 Chuck Colson was very involved in the Fellowship, 457 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:23,928 and Doug Coe was instrumental in leading him to Jesus, 458 00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:27,474 introducing him to Jesus in prison after the Watergate scandal. 459 00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:29,726 I love you, brother. 460 00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:34,647 He becomes a major figure of the Christian Right, 461 00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:39,360 with a best-selling book and movie called Born Again. 462 00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,196 - God bless you. - Thank you. 463 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:42,697 And for the Family, 464 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:47,202 Colson was one of these powerful figures changed by Jesus. 465 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:56,836 I believe Doug Coe had the courage to do what Jesus did, 466 00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:03,468 which is to meet with the people who need him the most. 467 00:30:05,011 --> 00:30:07,806 You know, the... the sinners. 468 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:14,270 He said to me one time that the world cares what you do, 469 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:18,775 but the Lord knows what your motives are. 470 00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:22,362 And so we're not here to judge. 471 00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:24,739 We're just here to say, "Brother, we love you. 472 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,783 Is there anything we can do for you? 473 00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:30,620 Because we're blood family." 474 00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:37,836 So, the highs, the lows... we're together. We're together. 475 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:50,890 Thank you very much. Thank you very much. 476 00:30:58,314 --> 00:31:01,067 Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina 477 00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:04,571 seemed like what John Ensign only looked like. 478 00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:07,991 While on the subject of thank yous, I want to thank my maker. 479 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:10,869 I believe that God brought us to this moment, 480 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,745 and I'm humbled at simply being here. 481 00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:15,229 Mark Sanford was considered a friend of the Family, 482 00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:18,918 and he had gotten spiritual counseling with C Street, 483 00:31:19,043 --> 00:31:20,837 back when he was a young congressman. 484 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,757 He also had the presidential look, 485 00:31:25,550 --> 00:31:28,469 that kind of tall, commanding white man of authority. 486 00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:32,056 And his conservative bona fides were perfect. 487 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:34,809 Sanford, a Conservative Republican, 488 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,853 got national attention earlier this year 489 00:31:36,936 --> 00:31:38,229 when he refused to accept 490 00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:41,399 some of South Carolina's share of the stimulus spending. 491 00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,193 He hewed closely to that Family idea that says 492 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:47,989 poverty is the result of the God-ordained economic system. 493 00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:52,702 Uh, you're poor because God chose you to be poor. 494 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:59,042 And so he refused $700 million in federal aid to South Carolina, 495 00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:01,753 money the state's poor desperately needed, 496 00:32:01,836 --> 00:32:04,380 because he feared it was a road to slavery. 497 00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:07,443 South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford 498 00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:09,844 is a rising star in the Republican party, 499 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:11,346 and widely considered to be 500 00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:13,890 a potential candidate for president in 2012. 501 00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:15,892 As a family values man, 502 00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:17,810 he was spoken of as... 503 00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:21,397 This guy is in the top tier of presidential contenders. 504 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:24,275 This is, you know... showing up on the cover of magazines. 505 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,486 And then suddenly, he disappears. 506 00:32:26,986 --> 00:32:29,572 A political mystery in South Carolina. 507 00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:32,867 The Republican governor in that state has disappeared. 508 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:36,037 His last public appearance was Wednesday on Fox News, 509 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,124 when he refused to rule out running for president in 2012. 510 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:42,311 What I've learned in life: you should never say never. 511 00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:44,754 And a lot of strange doors open or close in life. 512 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:46,899 The governor's wife told the Associated Press 513 00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,841 that she had not seen him since Thursday. 514 00:32:48,925 --> 00:32:50,593 She added that she wasn't concerned 515 00:32:50,677 --> 00:32:53,429 because he told her he wanted to get away and do some writing. 516 00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:55,723 A few days after, 517 00:32:56,432 --> 00:32:59,435 what was a local story... "Where's the governor?"... 518 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,771 becomes a national story the longer he's gone. 519 00:33:01,854 --> 00:33:04,607 Governor alert: the search for Mark Sanford. 520 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:07,568 And this continues until his staff says 521 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,654 he's hiking the Appalachian Trail. 522 00:33:09,737 --> 00:33:12,657 The governor is said to be, quote, "clearing his head," 523 00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:15,410 somewhere along the Appalachian Trail that stretches... 524 00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:17,721 And then there's this moment in which people imagine, 525 00:33:17,745 --> 00:33:19,747 "This man is going off into the wilderness. 526 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,378 This is not a man cut from ordinary cloth. 527 00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:26,796 He seeks solitude. 528 00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:29,757 This is only proving his president timber." 529 00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,177 But it was all an act. 530 00:33:43,229 --> 00:33:45,356 Okay. You all ready? 531 00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:47,608 Everybody ready? 532 00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:52,321 Let me lay out that larger story that has attracted so many of y'all here. 533 00:33:53,364 --> 00:33:56,409 Because as much as I did talk about doing the Appalachian Trail, 534 00:33:56,492 --> 00:33:58,077 that isn't where I ended up. 535 00:33:58,161 --> 00:34:00,371 And so the bottom line is this: 536 00:34:00,455 --> 00:34:03,541 I, um... I've been unfaithful to my wife. 537 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:07,628 I developed, um, a relationship with a... 538 00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:09,129 uh... 539 00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:12,425 what started out as a dear, dear friend from Argentina. 540 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:14,677 But recently over this last year, 541 00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:16,641 it developed into something much more than that, 542 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,932 Did your wife and your family know about the affair 543 00:34:20,016 --> 00:34:22,810 - before the trip to Argentina? - Yes. 544 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:26,064 - Are you... - We... We've been... 545 00:34:27,523 --> 00:34:31,027 We've been working through this thing for about the last five months. Um... 546 00:34:32,111 --> 00:34:33,571 I've been to... 547 00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:35,573 a lot of different... 548 00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:38,451 I was part of a group called C Street, uh, when I was in Washington. 549 00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:40,203 It was a... uh... 550 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:42,330 Believe it or not, a Christian Bible study. 551 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,084 Some folks that asked if... members of Congress hard questions that... 552 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,253 um, I think were very, very important, 553 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:52,799 and, uh, I've been working with them to try and get my heart right, 554 00:34:52,882 --> 00:34:54,967 because I disappointed them and others. 555 00:34:55,051 --> 00:34:57,220 Why did you... 556 00:34:57,303 --> 00:34:58,863 Will you resign as governor? 557 00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:02,725 Joel, is the governor going to resign? 558 00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:04,643 Thank you. 559 00:35:05,144 --> 00:35:06,504 I remember watching this 560 00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:09,607 and... and being just sort of astonished 561 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:13,402 that he had just violated the first rule of C Street. 562 00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,740 The one that says we don't talk about this. 563 00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:18,991 ...asking for forgiveness. 564 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:20,701 Mark talked about it. 565 00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:24,539 And for an organization that wants to be invisible, 566 00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:30,211 suddenly there's a case study that has become very sharply visible. 567 00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:33,381 Governor Sanford reports having consulted with 568 00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:35,383 this group, the C Street group. 569 00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:39,595 It's some sort of support group in Washington for men in trouble. 570 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,097 So what's the deal with C Street? 571 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,016 Uh, deeply religious, sort of slants toward the right wing... 572 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,662 The house is home to a number of members of Congress. 573 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,187 It has been reported to be run 574 00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:51,065 by the secretive religious group known as the Family. 575 00:35:55,778 --> 00:36:00,533 I remember just happening to catch a... a news conference 576 00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:02,910 that Mark Sanford provided 577 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:07,415 when he got off the plane from his, uh, hike on the Appalachian Trail. 578 00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:14,672 He mentioned getting counseling from this group of colleagues at C Street, 579 00:36:16,048 --> 00:36:17,048 and I thought, 580 00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:23,306 "Uh-oh. This is going to go... This is going to have legs." 581 00:36:24,765 --> 00:36:27,685 At that point in time, people were not aware 582 00:36:27,768 --> 00:36:31,105 there was any connection between C Street and the Fellowship Foundation. 583 00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:35,693 And there was really no wide understanding even of its existence, 584 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:40,740 but it just seemed like a breathtaking enmeshment 585 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,116 of church and state. 586 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:49,081 Folks just don't trust the church as much anymore. 587 00:36:49,165 --> 00:36:52,835 And I think there's good reason, because there's been lines crossed, 588 00:36:52,919 --> 00:36:55,296 red lines crossed in terms of the role of Church, 589 00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:59,258 inappropriate activities of the role of Church in... in public life. 590 00:36:59,342 --> 00:37:01,219 And I think politicking is one of the ways 591 00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:05,389 that has really degraded, uh, the trust that people have in Church. 592 00:37:10,102 --> 00:37:15,107 Churches are the most opaque organizations within tax law. 593 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,795 You don't have to reveal anything about money coming in 594 00:37:18,819 --> 00:37:21,322 or money going out, or how it's used or anything. 595 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,743 So with C Street, 596 00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:30,748 my concern was it wasn't what it purported itself to be. 597 00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:35,127 What church doesn't have a website? 598 00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:36,963 What church doesn't open its door? 599 00:37:37,046 --> 00:37:40,508 I mean, it... it just didn't behave in any way that a church would. 600 00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:42,635 It wasn't inviting people in at all. 601 00:37:42,718 --> 00:37:45,972 It was a closed environment. It was... It was a club. 602 00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:52,687 And as a pastor of a church, as a leader of a faith community, 603 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:57,149 this whole idea of secrecy, of a kind of shadow ministry, 604 00:37:57,984 --> 00:37:59,110 it angered me. 605 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:04,323 And I thought, "Someone needs to be looking at them, shedding some light." 606 00:38:10,663 --> 00:38:11,914 I'm Marc Owens, 607 00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:15,710 and I practice in the area of, uh, tax-exempt organizations. 608 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:21,674 And so I was asked by Reverend Williams and Clergy VOICE 609 00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:24,302 to see what I could discern from the public record 610 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:25,761 about the C Street Center. 611 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:34,645 The research process involved looking at property records, tax records, 612 00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:38,107 annual filings, all the form 990s, 613 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,571 but also contracts entered into by the charities with fundraisers 614 00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:45,740 and certified financial statements. 615 00:38:45,823 --> 00:38:50,494 It gives you a slightly different... um, window onto the structure. 616 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:55,291 And that, of course, led to the Fellowship Foundation, 617 00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:57,251 and with a little more digging, 618 00:38:57,543 --> 00:39:00,087 something called the Wilberforce Foundation. 619 00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:06,552 The Wilberforce Foundation was named for William Wilberforce, 620 00:39:06,635 --> 00:39:08,512 a looming figure from the 19th century, 621 00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:11,098 the man who led the abolition of slavery in England. 622 00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:15,895 And later we learned Oliver North, the current president of the NRA, 623 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,189 runs an annual fundraiser for it. 624 00:39:18,814 --> 00:39:21,859 It's called "Godly Guys with Guns." It's a duck shoot. 625 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:30,284 And it's just one of the many nonprofits and sort of shell nonprofits 626 00:39:30,826 --> 00:39:32,661 funneling the money for the Family 627 00:39:32,953 --> 00:39:36,165 and allowing the Fellowship to stay invisible. 628 00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:51,472 Upon further investigation, it turns out the C Street Center 629 00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:56,185 was basically appearing to subsidize, to a fairly significant degree, 630 00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:58,270 the living costs of members of Congress. 631 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:04,735 The individuals who lived at C Street were paying $600 a month, 632 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:11,992 and there isn't any place in Washington one can find even a bed for $600 a month. 633 00:40:13,035 --> 00:40:16,163 So that kind of activity seems to clearly violate 634 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,624 the Congressional rules on taking gifts. 635 00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,002 That's thousands of dollars a year, 636 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:25,131 amounts that people have gone to jail for receiving. 637 00:40:29,051 --> 00:40:32,888 We begin tonight with a developing story, uh, concerning C Street. 638 00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,017 Earlier this month, a group of pastors asked the IRS 639 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:40,729 to strip C Street of its federal tax-exempt status, 640 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,648 because although it does claim to be a church, 641 00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:44,066 in the view of these pastors, 642 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:46,610 there isn't a whole lot that's very churchy about it. 643 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:49,280 Are you concerned about access, 644 00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:52,324 influence, uh, other forms of quid pro quo? 645 00:40:52,408 --> 00:40:54,577 I think that goes right to the heart of it, 646 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:58,205 because it wasn't a gift just to help them, um, meet... meet ends. 647 00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:01,959 So I have to... have to think that they were receiving a favor 648 00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:04,003 with some kind of expectation, 649 00:41:04,378 --> 00:41:08,632 Uh, and of course, the whole Family, uh, code of secrecy, 650 00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:12,303 uh, really suggests that there was a lot of conversation, 651 00:41:12,386 --> 00:41:16,432 private conversation, private influence, going on well below the radar. 652 00:41:16,515 --> 00:41:18,726 All we can do is ask the questions, 653 00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:21,562 and ask the IRS to look into it, if it... if it merited... 654 00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:24,190 We'd like to know. We would like to know. 655 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,799 Mark Sanford decided to have a press conference in front of C Street, 656 00:41:51,091 --> 00:41:52,760 even though he never lived there. 657 00:41:52,843 --> 00:41:55,012 You know, he rarely ever was there, 658 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:56,639 but that's where he came, 659 00:41:56,722 --> 00:42:00,726 and he came frankly, basically, sorta to repent to people. 660 00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:03,854 So, okay, that frankly... 661 00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:05,147 There's a role for that. 662 00:42:07,149 --> 00:42:11,862 Just remember that God always uses imperfect vessels to do his perfect work. 663 00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:17,409 Too many questions floating around about Sanford's extramarital affair. 664 00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:20,180 - Samford writes... - After that press conference, 665 00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:22,456 more and more details emerged. 666 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:23,940 Investigation revealed 667 00:42:23,999 --> 00:42:26,585 inappropriate use of public money for various trips. 668 00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:28,396 And there's a lot of pressure on him to resign. 669 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:31,048 That is why I must now call upon Governor Sanford, 670 00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:34,176 in the interest of our state, to resign. 671 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,887 But the Family looks at that and says, "No, no, no, no." 672 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,349 They believe that Mark Sanford is placed there by God. 673 00:42:42,017 --> 00:42:46,105 This is a valuable asset, and we don't want to just sacrifice that. 674 00:42:47,481 --> 00:42:49,984 So the Family swooped in. It was damage control time. 675 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:53,153 Mark Sanford says he's turning to a higher power. 676 00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:56,574 In come the fixers, and they say, 677 00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:58,492 "Let's talk, Mark, about King David." 678 00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:11,714 It's the very same story that I had been told at Ivanwald, 679 00:43:11,797 --> 00:43:15,509 focusing not on the David that we know from "David and Goliath," 680 00:43:15,884 --> 00:43:18,596 but the David who is now king, 681 00:43:19,346 --> 00:43:21,473 a powerful man who is chosen. 682 00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:27,896 And he spots this beautiful woman, Bathsheba, and he longs for her. 683 00:43:29,648 --> 00:43:33,068 The only problem is, she's the wife of one of his chief captains 684 00:43:33,152 --> 00:43:34,903 in this war that he's fighting. 685 00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:38,532 But he doesn't let that get in his way. 686 00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:41,910 Now you understand why I sent for you. 687 00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:48,000 My understanding is not necessary, sire. 688 00:43:49,877 --> 00:43:52,296 - Why not? - You are the king. 689 00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:57,801 He seduces Bathsheba, and he gets her pregnant. 690 00:43:59,386 --> 00:44:01,263 And now he's got a problem. 691 00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:05,309 He's got to cover this up, so he arranges for her husband, 692 00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:07,311 this man who is his friend... 693 00:44:07,394 --> 00:44:11,690 He says, "When they go back to battle, Let him be right at the front line. 694 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:13,901 Let him be in harm's way." 695 00:44:15,027 --> 00:44:16,987 And sure enough, he is killed. 696 00:44:19,281 --> 00:44:20,366 Jonathan! 697 00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:26,372 There's all sorts of ways to read this story. 698 00:44:27,122 --> 00:44:29,166 The way the Family reads it is, 699 00:44:29,249 --> 00:44:32,795 "Well, it sounds like David did a bad thing there, but look, 700 00:44:33,212 --> 00:44:34,338 God fixed it. 701 00:44:34,421 --> 00:44:38,175 That's a sign, and... and King David stayed, remained king, 702 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:40,844 and Mark, maybe you should remain governor." 703 00:44:42,763 --> 00:44:45,265 Embattled South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford 704 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:46,725 says he's not stepping down. 705 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,179 I've been doing a lot of soul searching on that front, 706 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:52,523 and, um, what I find interesting is the story of David, 707 00:44:52,856 --> 00:44:56,777 and the way in which, uh, he fell mightily, 708 00:44:56,860 --> 00:44:59,113 fell in very, very significant ways, 709 00:44:59,988 --> 00:45:02,282 but then picked up the pieces and built from there. 710 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:04,743 Suddenly, here's Mark Sanford on TV, 711 00:45:04,827 --> 00:45:09,123 invoking that very same, deeply unorthodox reading of King David 712 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:12,292 as his justification for remaining in power. 713 00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:14,169 ...well-expressed in the Book of Psalms. 714 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:17,673 And that's the problem with the Family, right there. 715 00:45:18,632 --> 00:45:22,010 There's no sense of challenging that power, 716 00:45:23,345 --> 00:45:24,345 because it's just... 717 00:45:24,763 --> 00:45:26,390 "I'm chosen. Doesn't matter what I do." 718 00:45:33,021 --> 00:45:35,441 We know in life when you get away with things, 719 00:45:36,108 --> 00:45:38,360 very seldom does it cause a person to go, 720 00:45:38,444 --> 00:45:42,531 "Wow, I just dodged a bullet, I'm going to change my life." 721 00:45:43,115 --> 00:45:46,368 It's not until consequences, something radical happens, 722 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:47,536 that we typically do that. 723 00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:52,332 So since John had gotten away with this several times, he'd been emboldened. 724 00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:56,920 You know, he kind of thought, "None of you are going to tell me what to do. 725 00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:00,758 Therefore, I'm going to do what I want." 726 00:46:08,056 --> 00:46:09,856 As the days and the weeks rolled on, 727 00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:14,229 it became extremely apparently to me that no one was going to step up. 728 00:46:15,063 --> 00:46:16,523 He was still seeing her, 729 00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:19,193 they were back in Nevada seeing each other, 730 00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:21,153 and I was just left holding the bag. 731 00:46:21,236 --> 00:46:22,946 I was just left with the fact 732 00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:24,740 that C Street was going to protect Ensign, 733 00:46:26,909 --> 00:46:32,331 and, uh, I think the real hurt and anger grew at that time. 734 00:46:34,416 --> 00:46:37,586 You know, this just cannot be right. It is not right. 735 00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:42,758 And so I just decided to go public with it. 736 00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:47,012 In June, Hampton did try to go public, 737 00:46:47,095 --> 00:46:51,225 writing to Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly, revealing the affair. 738 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,852 Though Fox didn't go with the story, 739 00:46:53,936 --> 00:46:56,480 Ensign hastily called his press conference. 740 00:46:56,563 --> 00:46:58,899 Last year, I had an affair. 741 00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:03,362 I violated the vows of my marriage. 742 00:47:04,738 --> 00:47:06,490 I will not mention any names, 743 00:47:06,698 --> 00:47:10,077 but the woman who was... I was involved with, and her husband, 744 00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:13,163 were both close friends. 745 00:47:13,997 --> 00:47:15,457 And they both worked for me. 746 00:47:16,542 --> 00:47:18,043 Now it was finally out. 747 00:47:18,126 --> 00:47:19,753 Excuse me, Senator Ensign? 748 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:21,713 And John moved out of C Street. 749 00:47:21,797 --> 00:47:23,942 Nevada's senator has dropped a bombshell... 750 00:47:23,966 --> 00:47:26,552 But because we'd tried to cover it up for a year... 751 00:47:26,635 --> 00:47:28,035 C Street secrets. 752 00:47:28,303 --> 00:47:30,806 ...the press was worse. 753 00:47:30,889 --> 00:47:34,935 You get the sense all sides want this scandal to go away. It isn't. 754 00:47:35,018 --> 00:47:39,106 The swirl of admissions and accusations has increased pressure on Ensign, 755 00:47:39,189 --> 00:47:42,776 and made it likely he'll face a Senate Ethics Committee investigation. 756 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,487 I didn't break any ethics rules. I didn't break any of the laws. 757 00:47:45,571 --> 00:47:46,905 I didn't do any of those things. 758 00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:50,325 We wanted to know why the senator pushed so hard 759 00:47:50,409 --> 00:47:54,204 to get jobs for Doug Hampton, the husband of Ensign's mistress, 760 00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:56,540 to make up for leaving the senator's office. 761 00:47:56,623 --> 00:47:59,626 Hampton claims none other than Senator Tom Coburn 762 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:03,589 personally initiated and took charge of the negotiations. 763 00:48:03,672 --> 00:48:07,009 Tom Coburn said, "What I would do, Doug, if I was you, 764 00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:08,969 is I would have them buy your home, 765 00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:12,514 give you a million bucks so you could get started over, 766 00:48:12,598 --> 00:48:14,683 and that's what I'm willing to help you negotiate. 767 00:48:14,766 --> 00:48:18,520 A family spokesman denying a payoff called it part of, quote, 768 00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:20,397 "A pattern of generosity, 769 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,110 made out of concern for the well-being of long-time family friends 770 00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:27,112 during a difficult time." 771 00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:38,999 I was the only one that was indicted. 772 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,212 Seven felony counts of lobbying violations. 773 00:48:45,422 --> 00:48:48,175 So I was facing 35 years in prison. 774 00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:52,346 I ended up pleading, and I did one year of probation. 775 00:48:54,389 --> 00:48:55,724 I lost my job, 776 00:48:56,224 --> 00:48:58,393 my wife, everything. 777 00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:04,107 And the Coes, they just cut me off. 778 00:49:05,108 --> 00:49:09,196 Our job is to do what we can to let that promise grow... 779 00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:17,704 John went on to keep his position. 780 00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:19,039 Hi, I'm Senator John Ensign. 781 00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:21,842 He chose to stay in office, stepped down when he wanted to, 782 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:24,086 and he's never talked about it since. 783 00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:30,133 Lord, thank you for all that you've done in my life. 784 00:49:30,717 --> 00:49:33,053 My colleagues, I bid you farewell. 785 00:49:33,553 --> 00:49:35,889 Know that you will all be in my prayers. 786 00:49:38,016 --> 00:49:41,603 While it was ugly and it was painful and it caused a lot of scrutiny 787 00:49:41,687 --> 00:49:44,690 and a lot of people's claims of hypocrisy and everything else, 788 00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:47,484 John Ensign, our friend, handled that. 789 00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:50,946 He and Darlene are together today, their family is whole. 790 00:49:51,029 --> 00:49:52,447 Their family is... is... 791 00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:54,282 He... He did it. 792 00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:56,868 That's what's supposed to happen when you err. 793 00:49:57,452 --> 00:50:01,915 That's what this Fellowship, this accountability, brought about, was... 794 00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,333 They reconciled. 795 00:50:03,417 --> 00:50:05,502 So I have no regrets about that. 796 00:50:05,585 --> 00:50:07,879 To be honest with you, I think we responded properly, 797 00:50:07,963 --> 00:50:10,132 and so did John Ensign, 798 00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:13,677 and thank the Lord that we were there and that he did the right thing. 799 00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:26,898 I love Doug Coe, and I appreciate him tremendously for what he introduced me to. 800 00:50:27,482 --> 00:50:29,609 Doug and his teachings changed me. 801 00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:31,361 Are changing me. 802 00:50:32,487 --> 00:50:34,406 I think Jesus is the answer, 803 00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:37,951 but Jesus and Capitol Hill don't mix. 804 00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:43,165 Jesus never went to Rome. 805 00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:47,753 Jesus never changed out the leadership while he was on this earth, 806 00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:50,505 and he told us not to concern yourself with it. 807 00:50:52,382 --> 00:50:55,093 He went outside the city walls. He went to the poor, 808 00:50:55,177 --> 00:50:59,431 the people that really, genuinely wanted to hear. 809 00:51:01,141 --> 00:51:02,893 Because that's Jesus. 810 00:51:04,436 --> 00:51:05,729 That's the real answer. 69917

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