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Guys, get off me!
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Get off me!
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Hey, get off me!
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Jesus said, "You have
to put me before other people,
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and you have to put me before yourself."
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Hitler... That was a demand,
to be in the Nazi party.
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They had to put the Nazi party
and its objectives
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ahead of their father, mother,
brother, sister, and their own life.
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That was a covenant. A pledge.
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But the real work is invisible.
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And it is invisibly spreading.
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The more you can make
your organization invisible,
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the more influence it'll have.
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They will accuse me
of betraying their trust.
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In a fundamental way, I did.
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They want to be a secret,
invisible organization.
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I wrote two books about them.
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But the story is no longer
just about my experience.
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It took a long time
before I realized just who the Family was,
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and the influence they have had
in the leadership of our country.
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This was a group
with tentacles around the world,
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meeting with presidents,
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foreign leaders,
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to spread their view of Jesus
throughout the world.
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The National Prayer Breakfast:
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a Washington institution for Republican
and Democratic presidents
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since Eisenhower.
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I want to thank all those
inside and outside of Congress
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who made this all possible.
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They said he's
the most powerful man in Washington
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you've never heard of.
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He's like the Wizard of Oz.
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I wish I could say more about it,
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but it's working
precisely because it is private.
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We need to reach leaders.
And then if you reach the leaders,
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then the whole nation
will be influenced for Christ.
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The notion was floated:
What if we lived together?
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I was part of a group called C Street
when I was in Washington.
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Governor Mark Sanford,
Senator John Ensign,
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all embroiled in scandal...
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Doing the Lord's work
in the devil's playground.
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We meet with some really horrible people.
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Dictators and murderers and thieves.
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If I were a bad faith actor
from another country,
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that is exactly the kind of meeting
that I would want to exploit.
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Everybody in the room
had their hands on this President-elect.
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This is what the Family's
been waiting for.
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He's God's man.
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And they say it's about faith,
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but there's a shared understanding
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that what we're really about here
is power.
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I lived with those guys,
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prayed with them at their headquarters
at the seat of their power.
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There were congressmen, senators,
world leaders.
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An invisible organization that had been
hiding in plain sight for over 80 years.
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People think
that there's something sinister.
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There has to be a conspiracy.
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It's the furthest thing from the truth.
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It's a breathtaking enmeshment
of Church and State.
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A humble example of leadership
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that the world has never seen.
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- That's a corruption of democracy.- It's the power of God.
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This is something that the world
desperately needs.
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Hark! All worry will be left behind.
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All disappointment, too,
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will be gone forever.
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We adopted a program
for a worldwide spiritual offensive.
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I know, as never before.
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that we are all God's children.
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There is only one thing
we can take with us through that door.
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Those whom we have led to the Savior.
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Fear him. Love him.
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Submit yourself completely.
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Then you will be His disciple.
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What we have begun, we will finish.
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One of the things I've always
found interesting, even as a boy,
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is the idea that there are these battles
between good and evil;
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that we are actively engaged in a war
with the forces of evil every day,
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and that there are demonic influences
in our lives,
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and that you have to be on guard.
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So as a boy, this, on the one hand,
makes the world a much scarier place.
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On the other hand, it makes the world
a more exciting place.
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My mother died of breast cancer.
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Um... She was young, and I was just a kid.
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She grew up
in vaguely Pentecostal Christianity.
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And as she lay dying,
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she would invite members of various faiths
in to pray with her.
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And I noticed some of them prayed
for her salvation,
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that she would become a member
of their faith, even in death.
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And some of them prayed
for her deliverance,
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for a reprieve from her suffering,
so that she might live longer.
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And that question
of deliverance versus salvation,
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the world to come or freedom now,
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really struck me,
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and has lead me into all the stories
that I've been interested in ever since.
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When I was in my early 20s,
I decided to write about religion.
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And I was living in New York,
working on this book,
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and I'd heard that an old friend of mine,
a man named Luke, was in town.
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Luke was a very promising guy,
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from a sort of an upper-class family,
and had a fine trajectory to his life.
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Engaged to be married,
and building a financial career.
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But then he left all that
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and moved across the country to join,
um, what his family feared was a cult.
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He seemed to just drop out,
just to disappear.
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And so his family said,
because they knew I wrote about religion,
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they said, "Would you meet with him
and sort of see what he's up to?"
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This was very shortly after 9/11.
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And one of the things he said
he was there for...
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He wanted to survey
the ruins of secularism.
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But he said, "Now we see clearly.
This is a battle between good and evil."
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He seems to be a transformed person.
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And he told me about this amorphous thing
that he had joined.
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- He says...
- "They're not Christians."
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We're followers of Jesus,
and we just serve.
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Who do you serve?
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Men who are chosen by God for leadership.
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Politicians.
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- Is there an organization?
- No.
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No church, no ministers,
no rules and rituals.
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You read the Bible, though, right?
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Sure, sure, but mostly, we work.
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We...
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rake leaves, play basketball,
clean toilets.
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Wait, you clean toilets...
for politicians?
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I know it sounds weird...
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- Yeah.
- ...but it's not.
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It's just a bunch of guys living together.
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It's great.
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It seemed so simple.
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And then he invited me
to come see it for myself.
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And knowing almost nothing of it, I did.
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Do you take drugs, alcohol,
or prescription medication?
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You only got in
by being recommended.
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And had to go through a little interview
at this office on Capitol Hill,
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with a senior aide to a Republican senator
from Oklahoma at the time.
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And do you have a girlfriend?
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He asked me about
my relationship with my girlfriend...
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- Is she Christian?
- Yeah.
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...and about my parents.
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Questions that I would later
come to understand
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were sort of testing
how much was I willing to renounce.
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And I answered them very honestly.
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Because you have to understand,
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I was in no way
an investigative journalist at this time.
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- Were you close with your mom?
- I was, yeah.
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There was no stealth, no cleverness.
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I told them I was a writer,
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and I'd been traveling
around the country,
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trying to understand
all the different ideas of Jesus,
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and I was interested
in getting to know theirs.
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Rent is $400.
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That's with room and board.
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I think it was about a week later.
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I passed the test. I was welcome
to come and just live with them
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and be a brother, as they put it.
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A group of the brothers
had come to pick me up,
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and they drove me across the river
to Arlington, Virginia,
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a suburb of Washington
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where a lot of
intelligence community folks live.
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And we went down into this cul-de-sac
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and past this big, beautiful
Georgian mansion.
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- Nice house, huh?
- Yeah.
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Wow.
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Look, I didn't know
how to explain you to the guys,
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so I just said that we're getting
a new dude. He's from New York.
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- He's a writer. He's Jewish.
- Half-Jewish, actually.
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And he wants to know Jesus.
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Know what they said?
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No.
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"Bring him on."
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Let's go.
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♪ Everything to God in prayer ♪
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♪ Are there trials and temptations? ♪
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So, I move to this house called Ivanwald.
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Guys? This is, uh, Jeff.
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It was buzzing
with all these guys.
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Sort of a frat house kind of feel.
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But no beer, no...
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Nothing else, you know, very...
A pious frat house for God.
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♪ The Lord in prayer... ♪
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And pretty quickly,
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I realized this is not what I thought
it was going to be.
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- Jeff.
- Hey, Jeff, welcome to Ivanwald.
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- Thanks for having me.
- Yeah.
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I think you're gonna enjoy staying here.
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- Let's get you settled in.
- Yeah.
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If you hang out
in certain sectors around Washington,
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you've heard about it.
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There was a guy's house
and a girl's house down the street,
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and it was this little enclave,
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sort of a sabbatical from regular life.
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There were guys from all over the world,
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all walks of life.
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Religious, non-religious,
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questioning, skeptical.
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It was raw. It was real.
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Little more like the 12 guys
you read about in this... this book, right?
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And as a young Christian
working in politics,
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it was exactly what I needed.
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Yeah.
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The regiment at Ivanwald
was so precise it was relaxing.
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No swearing, no drinking.
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No sex, no self.
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You don't waste time on newspapers.
Never watch TV.
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...steadfastly into heaven.
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You eat meat. You study the gospels.
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You play basketball.
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- Yeah, here we go.
- I got outside.
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God loves a man
who can sink a three-pointer.
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Hey, Jeff.
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Will you lead us in prayer?
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Sure.
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Lord, uh, Lord God,
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uh, Heavenly Father.
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Jesus, thank you so much for...
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the guys here, and...
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um, the chance
to play basketball, and to...
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to learn teamwork, and, um...
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And learn how to fight for you.
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We pray all this in Jesus' name. Amen.
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- Amen.
- Amen.
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Yeah.
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- Bravo.
- There he is.
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The kind of storytelling
that I've always found interesting
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is submerging of yourself
in the lives of others.
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Crossing into that world of belief
until you're a little bit lost.
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It's spiritually dangerous,
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in the sense that you could be converted.
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And at Ivanwald, it meant seeing
what happens if, for a time at least,
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I accepted their ideas.
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"Where shall I flee from your presence?
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If I ascend into heaven, you are there.
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If I make my bed in the depths,
you are there."
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It's intense, right?
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It's like, you can't run.
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Doesn't matter where you turn,
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'cause Jesus is going to be right there,
waiting for you.
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Jesus is smart.
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He's going to get you.
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Let's pray.
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"I call out to the Lord.
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I pray to him for his favor."
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"I praise you for I am fearful..."
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We would pray to be broken.
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We would pray to be nothing.
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We would pray to learn how to obey.
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In here, we're safe
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with our brothers,
learning the ways of Jesus.
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They said this is
our prime relationship with this Jesus.
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- Does that make sense to you?
- Yeah.
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And so we would pray to crush
what we would call our inner rebel.
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- Jeff?
- Hey.
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- I see you're writing a lot down.
- Yeah.
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But are you listening?
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I know it's a lot to take in,
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but this is all you really need.
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It's the Bible.
It's the part that matters.
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It's just Jesus.
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One of the things
that surprised me was that
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though most of these men
were very scripturally literate,
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they didn't care very much
about the Bible.
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There was a small book that you're given.
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This little book that says "Jesus."
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That's it. Just Jesus, nothing else.
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And it was four gospels:
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
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with the Book of Acts referred to here
as Acts of Ambassadors.
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And they didn't need to read
too much further than that.
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There's not a whole lot of theology.
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There's no wrestling with God,
with conscience,
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traditional concerns of fundamentalism.
They don't talk about the devil.
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Just Jesus. Just Jesus. That's all.
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Now, which part of Jesus
was Psalm 137?
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137...
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"O daughter of Babylon
who are to be destroyed,
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happy shall he be
that taketh the little ones
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and dasheth them
against the stones."
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Which part of Jesus would be in that?
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Jeff, brother, I don't know,
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but I'm pretty sure
he'll let you know when it's time.
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They said
Christianity's been misunderstood.
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That all the rubes out there,
the suckers,
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they think that Christ came to preach
equally to everybody. Not so.
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They said he had rings of power.
Closest are James and Peter.
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Then you go out another circle,
and there's the disciples.
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And out here...
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is everybody else,
and they'll get the message,
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but they won't get it in unvarnished form.
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They can't handle the truth.
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Let us be nothing.
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But now we've moved
from this outer ring
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to one of those very near inner circles.
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- And we are the new chosen.
- Please, Jesus...
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- The ones that matter.
- ...work through us.
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As a brother in Ivanwald,
as one among these new chosen,
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some of us were assigned to work
in their headquarters called the Cedars.
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We would rake leaves. We'd clean toilets.
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I thought this was so absurd,
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this religious movement
of humbling yourself
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by cleaning the toilets of the powerful.
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Load some of these up.
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The Cedars is this big,
white-pillared mansion
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that looks a little bit
like the White House.
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And it is very clearly
the seat of their power,
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because it's where they host
a lot of foreign leaders.
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Wait, I recognize him.
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That's that, uh,
Republican Senator from Oklahoma.
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Yeah. They all come here.
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Left, right,
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Republican, Democrat.
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But those terms don't reflect
the movement's vision.
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It's bigger than that.
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We had the president of Uganda here
the other day.
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We prayed for him.
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Yeah. The Family has friends
all over the world.
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There were African diplomats,
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Russian nationals,
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congressmen, senators,
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and that's when I realized:
this is important.
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This is not just a fascinating story.
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These are powerful people.
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Yeah, I'd heard about 'em,
but it was more public lore.
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They weren't neighbors that you really
got to know very well.
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I got to know them because unfortunately
one of their limousines ran over my cat.
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So there... there were
a couple of incidents like that.
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They didn't endear themselves
to the neighborhood.
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Hey! Carla's here, too.
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- I found some correspondence.
- Oh, good.
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Yes, yes.
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Being involved in the neighborhood,
I got the impression
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that you're either with them,
or you're not with them.
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They had a... oh, a big map
of the neighborhood.
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This is interesting, Carla.
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Did you know that they had
a 3-by-4-foot map of the neighborhood
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with each house and a designated color,
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depending upon how supportive they were
of the Fellowship?
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Green, yellow, and red.
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Support, indifference, or antagonism.
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- I forgot that, too.
- So it's kind of like a war map.
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For a long time, I was the president
of the civic association,
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which is why I knocked
on the door one day
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and said, "I'd like to find out
just what this is all about."
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So this very nice man gave me a tour
of the big house, the Cedars.
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And it was very much
mid-nineteenth-century.
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Beautifully restored
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in the style of interior decoration
you'd have if you want to impress people.
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And then they gave me a tour
of the boys' residence hall.
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And the boys are outside,
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landscaping and cleaning the gutters.
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And the kids there said
that they would continue to do this
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until God spoke to them
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and gave them their instructions
for the rest of their life.
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And I said, "I have to say that
for a bunch of people in their 20s,
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these are abnormally passive."
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While I was in the boys' dormitory,
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one of them said, "You know, we have
a Tuesday night prayer meeting.
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Why don't you join us?"
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So I went to their Tuesday night
prayer meetings,
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week after week after week.
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What they offer their followers
is a sense of belonging,
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a kind of unquestioning...
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"We're with you through thick and thin."
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And there's something very alluring
about that.
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I wouldn't mind being accepted
by a group of people...
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unquestioningly.
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I only got a little glimpse
of their theology,
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and I really don't know
about their form of Christianity,
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or if even they are all Christians.
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But when I learned how
they're very unapologetically targeting
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the rich and powerful,
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I found that to be disturbing.
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But I never asked any impolite questions.
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I just sat and listened.
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And then the following week,
there was no prayer meeting.
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And there was no prayer
meeting ever again after that.
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I think they were trying to shake me off.
376
00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:32,768
Okay. I know, I know.
Just try to take a deep breath.
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00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,478
You're home, right?
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I mean, wish I was there with you
right now, I really do,
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but there's nothing I can do about it.
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00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:43,028
Because I can't just walk out of here!
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00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:45,821
Be calm.
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00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:49,076
I will... I'll ask them, okay?
And maybe tomorrow, or...
383
00:22:49,993 --> 00:22:52,996
No, no, you can't come here.
384
00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:16,770
Hey.
385
00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:17,687
How are you?
386
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:22,025
Yeah, it's good to hear your voice, too.
387
00:23:22,109 --> 00:23:26,238
Yeah, no, I have a lot
to tell you about, so...
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Gonna have to confiscate that.
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00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:30,533
Let me call you back.
390
00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:31,660
All right, bye.
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00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:36,956
I'm just kidding.
392
00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:40,141
Phone calls are allowed,
but they're discouraged for new brothers.
393
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,003
We want your full attention.
394
00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:45,799
I was just, like, letting Luke have
some time with his fiancee.
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00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,760
Luke's fiancee is a Jezebel.
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She doesn't obey God.
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00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,015
We're accountable to each other, Jeff.
That's the brotherhood.
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00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:57,561
I'm here to make sure you don't deviate
from Christ's will.
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00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:00,146
All right?
400
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:03,149
Okay.
401
00:24:05,652 --> 00:24:07,154
It's important to remember,
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00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,282
these brothers,
they were not bad guys.
403
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:13,618
They were there
because they wanted meaning in their life.
404
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:17,247
They wanted to feel like they were part
of something valuable.
405
00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:20,046
I remember one day,
I'd been there for a while,
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00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:23,503
and one of the brothers, he says,
"Guys, I have something for you to do.
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00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:25,004
Arm wrestle."
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00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,679
Don't stiffen up, man.
409
00:24:33,388 --> 00:24:34,973
Here we go. No, no, no.
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00:24:35,056 --> 00:24:37,225
Use your... Lower, lower.
Get lower, Jeff.
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00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:46,109
And then someone yells,
"Fumble!" and then suddenly,
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they were all piling on me
and, you know, hitting.
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Get off me! Get off me!
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I said, get off me!
415
00:24:57,537 --> 00:25:00,057
And at that time, I thought,
"This is really strange."
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00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:03,919
But as it turns out, there was actually
a spiritual message to this.
417
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The Jesus most of us are familiar with
is tender and loving.
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He's the lamb of God.
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A figure of peace and gentleness.
420
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:19,768
But no, their idea of Jesus...
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Jesus' love is strong.
As they'd said, "Jesus is not a sissy."
422
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And if Jesus was alive today,
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maybe he would be a Navy SEAL.
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00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:29,986
If Jesus was alive today,
he'd be great at football.
425
00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:34,199
And so this was spiritual training.
426
00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:38,078
It was a kind of muscular Christianity.
427
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:45,544
And they were, as I came to understand,
crushing Christ into me.
428
00:25:47,754 --> 00:25:54,219
This was the initiation
in which all our bodies became one.
429
00:25:55,136 --> 00:25:57,430
I can't breathe!
Guys, I can't breathe.
430
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:58,514
I can't breathe.
431
00:25:58,932 --> 00:25:59,932
Get off me.
432
00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:16,658
One falls down,
his friend can help him up.
433
00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:18,535
You're one of us now.
434
00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:21,997
- Come on, circle up.
- Phew!
435
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,838
The brothers
referred to our group as a family.
436
00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:34,301
And they said I'd become
a member of the Family.
437
00:26:35,635 --> 00:26:37,804
Or the Fellowship,
as it's sometimes known.
438
00:26:40,348 --> 00:26:42,434
But the name is not important.
439
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,519
Let's go.
440
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,403
And sometimes
I would make a mistake
441
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:48,064
and refer to some political figure...
442
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,068
"Oh, so they're a member? Can we..."
"No, they are a friend of the Family."
443
00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:54,112
There was all these subtle distinctions.
444
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,366
And that's part of the invisibility of it.
445
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:14,633
I asked one time about the hierarchy,
the organizational structure.
446
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,720
And they said,
"Why do you keep talking about this?
447
00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:21,765
It's just me and you, you and you,
448
00:27:21,848 --> 00:27:24,184
and we are
accountable to one another.
449
00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:28,146
And that's just the way God wants it."
450
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,320
It never occurred to me to, you know,
sort of asked for an org chart.
451
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:38,865
Who are the people, how is it organized?
What's the structure?
452
00:27:38,948 --> 00:27:41,108
And of course, the people
who'd been around a long time
453
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,620
were just really quick to say,
"Don't call it anything."
454
00:27:43,703 --> 00:27:45,303
I'm like, "You gotta call it something."
455
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,970
So yeah, you kinda call it
the Fellowship,
456
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,502
or you call it a group of friends
following Jesus, whatever it was.
457
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:52,587
But definitions aside,
458
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,923
you know, trying to stick a label on it,
459
00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:58,009
you see what's happening relationally,
460
00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:01,721
and where else is this happening?
461
00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:04,307
This is something that the world
desperately needs.
462
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:06,768
Well, you're gonna have
a shorter nose.
463
00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:13,441
You guys are here to learn
how to rule the world.
464
00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:20,323
You have very intense eyes.
465
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:23,284
Thank you.
466
00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:26,909
Hey, let's talk about the Old Testament.
467
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,417
Who would you say are its good guys?
468
00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:32,961
- Moses?
- Noah?
469
00:28:33,962 --> 00:28:34,962
David.
470
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,881
King David, that's a good one.
471
00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:39,884
What would you say made him a good guy?
472
00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:42,554
His faith was so strong.
473
00:28:42,637 --> 00:28:44,806
King David liked to do
some really bad things.
474
00:28:45,306 --> 00:28:48,852
I mean, this is a guy who slept with
another man's wife, Bathsheba, right?
475
00:28:49,644 --> 00:28:51,813
And he basically murders her husband.
476
00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:54,441
And this guy is supposedly
one of our heroes?
477
00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:58,403
Jiminy Christmas.
God likes this guy.
478
00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:01,614
What is that all about?
479
00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:04,617
Is it because he tried?
480
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,912
He wanted to do the right thing.
481
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:10,581
Anyone else?
482
00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:13,042
'Cause he was chosen.
483
00:29:14,294 --> 00:29:16,504
Yeah. Chosen.
484
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:22,177
Interesting set of rules, isn't it?
485
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,598
Let's say here one of you here
raped three little girls,
486
00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,475
and now you're sitting here
at Ivanwald.
487
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:30,560
What would I think of you?
488
00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:34,731
That I'm a terrible person?
489
00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:35,815
No, I wouldn't.
490
00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:40,612
That's not why I'm here.
It's not my job to judge you.
491
00:29:42,363 --> 00:29:43,573
I'm here for one thing.
492
00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:45,741
What is that?
493
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:49,870
Jesus?
494
00:29:55,835 --> 00:29:58,922
That disturbing moment
sort of crystallizes it for me.
495
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,802
This core idea that some people
are more chosen than others.
496
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,805
And if you're chosen,
497
00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:08,807
doesn't matter what you do.
498
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:11,017
I'd still be with you.
499
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,980
- And then he said...
- We elect our leaders,
500
00:30:16,689 --> 00:30:17,899
Jesus elects his.
501
00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:20,985
And we warn everyone,
502
00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:22,821
the future king is coming.
503
00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:25,698
Not just of this country...
504
00:30:28,535 --> 00:30:29,577
but of the world.
505
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,796
The Cedars is a set-apart place.
506
00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:42,757
It's a historic place,
it's a beautiful place,
507
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:47,220
and it is a place that offers hospitality
to the world.
508
00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:52,851
There was a weekly breakfast
that we were responsible for,
509
00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:55,562
I think we called it
the ambassador's breakfast.
510
00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,481
How many ambassadors were actually present
is always, you know...
511
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,233
I think a fairly limited number.
512
00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:01,651
But it was a chance for people
513
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:04,404
who were in and out
of various stages of public life
514
00:31:04,487 --> 00:31:06,030
to have breakfast together in prayer.
515
00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:10,095
- Mr. Attorney-General.
- Oh, my! It's so wonderful to see you.
516
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:13,079
Folks are able to sort of
let their guard down,
517
00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:14,362
folks in leadership positions,
518
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:17,876
and have real conversations,
519
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,253
out of the limelight.
520
00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,755
Out of the eye of the camera.
521
00:31:23,464 --> 00:31:25,508
And trusting that Jesus would...
522
00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:27,760
would be present there.
523
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:32,557
This is impressive.
524
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,684
That's the former attorney-general.
525
00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,404
Matthew 11:27.
526
00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:49,782
"No one knows the son except the father.
527
00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:53,578
And no one knows the father
except the son,
528
00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:57,749
and those to whom the son chooses
to reveal himself.
529
00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:05,965
I didn't have to ask who was in charge,
because we talked about him often.
530
00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,510
It was a guy named Doug Coe.
531
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,721
Know we're going to do everything
we possibly can
532
00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:13,973
to be of help to you and your country.
533
00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:15,600
He hates the limelight.
534
00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:18,686
It's not about him, it's about Jesus.
535
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:22,732
I wanted to give you a small gift
of our small world.
536
00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,027
He was introduced to me
as sort of like a brother,
537
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,279
but he's like the first brother.
538
00:32:29,238 --> 00:32:31,074
They said said he was a very simple man
539
00:32:31,157 --> 00:32:34,369
who was closer to Jesus
than anybody alive,
540
00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:38,456
and that if Doug Coe prayed for something,
541
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:40,249
it just happened.
542
00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:48,549
They liked very much
that nobody outside of the Family
543
00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:50,051
knew who Doug Coe was.
544
00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:54,764
They loved telling stories
about how Doug Coe just showed up
545
00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:56,182
in some president's office
546
00:32:56,265 --> 00:32:58,309
or some prime minister's house.
547
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,066
He was clearly a leader to this movement.
548
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,194
And so, you know, "Who is Doug Coe?"
549
00:33:08,277 --> 00:33:10,905
is what I really wanted to know
at this point.
550
00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:13,491
You know what I'm concerned about?
551
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:14,825
The Muslim.
552
00:33:15,284 --> 00:33:16,786
The Muslim has too many babies.
553
00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:18,454
We kill too many of ours.
554
00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:23,334
What is the best way for Christians
to win the race against the Muslims?
555
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:27,338
Too many Muslim babies
could be a problem.
556
00:33:28,631 --> 00:33:30,258
But your focus on labels,
557
00:33:31,092 --> 00:33:34,887
Christian and Muslim,
gets in the way of your prayers.
558
00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:38,641
Organized religion distracts from Jesus.
559
00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:43,104
We've got to take Jesus
out of the religious wrapping.
560
00:33:43,479 --> 00:33:44,522
How do we do that?
561
00:33:46,941 --> 00:33:48,026
It's good to have friends.
562
00:33:49,152 --> 00:33:51,779
Do you know what a difference
a friend can make?
563
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,573
A friend that you can agree with?
564
00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:58,327
Two or three friends agree and pray.
565
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,164
They can do anything.
566
00:34:02,498 --> 00:34:03,498
Agreement.
567
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:05,375
You're a writer.
568
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:07,170
What's that mean?
569
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,046
Uh...
570
00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:11,173
Unity.
571
00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:12,842
Agreement means unity.
572
00:34:13,342 --> 00:34:14,342
Total unity.
573
00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:17,805
You know, there's another word for that.
574
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:20,892
A covenant.
575
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,351
- Covenant.
- Hmm.
576
00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:25,813
Can you think of anyone
who made a covenant...
577
00:34:26,439 --> 00:34:28,232
- with his friends?
- Jesus.
578
00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:31,276
Hitler.
579
00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:33,404
Hitler made a covenant.
580
00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,032
The Mafia made a covenant.
581
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:38,993
Look at the strength of their bonds.
582
00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,249
It's a powerful thing.
583
00:34:46,334 --> 00:34:48,544
You see, with them, it's honor.
584
00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:50,588
With us, it's Jesus.
585
00:34:51,631 --> 00:34:53,591
Hitler, Stalin,
586
00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:56,010
Mao Tse-tung, Osama bin Laden.
587
00:34:56,886 --> 00:35:00,139
The Family possesses a weapon
those leaders lacked.
588
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:05,228
The "total Jesus"
of a brotherhood in Christ.
589
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:07,772
That's what you get with a covenant.
590
00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:12,235
Jesus, plus nothing.
591
00:35:14,821 --> 00:35:15,988
That phrase,
592
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:17,782
"Jesus plus nothing,"
593
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,495
simultaneously banal and totalitarian...
594
00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:23,578
Well, guys, I gotta go.
595
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,082
...leaves these congressman sitting there
596
00:35:26,165 --> 00:35:28,626
as if they've been given a revelation.
597
00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:32,588
And it's just like other men have said.
598
00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:35,716
"Doug helped bring me out of religion
and into Christ."
599
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:42,473
Doug Coe was a saintly person
600
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:47,603
who put other people first.
601
00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:49,730
Put a relationship with the Lord first.
602
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:53,901
And he didn't really want any accolades.
603
00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:57,780
I remember,
near the end of my season at Ivanwald,
604
00:35:57,864 --> 00:36:00,199
I got to help plan a prayer breakfast,
605
00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:01,993
and I remember Doug specifically saying,
606
00:36:02,076 --> 00:36:06,873
"Hey, Google me,
and let's get any reference down.
607
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:10,626
We just... I just don't want to be...
I don't want anybody to know,
608
00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:15,673
uh, and to have a sense of I'm sort of
this power figure behind this.
609
00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:18,986
I just, you know... This is about the Lord.
This is about bringing people together.
610
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,930
This is about something
much greater than me."
611
00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:27,894
What a wonderfully reassuring thing,
612
00:36:27,977 --> 00:36:32,732
in a town that thrives on power
and prestige and influence.
613
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:36,152
So let's be influential,
but let's do it quietly.
614
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:39,113
Um... So, you know, that was Doug.
615
00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,576
Jesus Christ,
616
00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:45,119
when he organizes,
617
00:36:45,369 --> 00:36:48,706
the way he puts the organization together,
he makes it invisible.
618
00:36:48,789 --> 00:36:50,458
When you look at your body,
619
00:36:50,541 --> 00:36:53,669
you don't see your liver and your muscles
and your brains hanging out.
620
00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:57,465
What he did is
he put the finest organization,
621
00:36:57,548 --> 00:36:59,050
and he put a beautiful skin over it.
622
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,760
When you look at the Mafia,
623
00:37:00,843 --> 00:37:03,346
they also use
the same type of organization.
624
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:07,058
Everything visible...
is transitory.
625
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,769
Everything invisible is permanent
and lasts forever.
626
00:37:09,852 --> 00:37:12,396
The more you can make
your organization invisible,
627
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,023
the more influence it'll have.
628
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,904
I wrote openly in my journal,
and less openly as time went on.
629
00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,740
Things that surprised me,
630
00:37:22,823 --> 00:37:25,785
conversation I heard
and questions that emerged.
631
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:31,332
As time went on, the journal becomes
more and more of a detective's journal.
632
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,214
I wondered, what do they really mean
by "Jesus plus nothing"?
633
00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:42,551
What kind of influence
did they want to have in the world?
634
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:50,268
I didn't know then
what the ultimate vision was,
635
00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,813
but life at Ivanwald
seemed to provide some clues.
636
00:37:58,442 --> 00:38:02,405
One night, there was a social
with our sister house,
637
00:38:02,488 --> 00:38:05,032
young women of this house
called Potomac Point.
638
00:38:08,327 --> 00:38:11,998
Some of them were really young.
Most were sort of in their mid-twenties.
639
00:38:13,374 --> 00:38:17,545
There was also a few wives
of the senior men around,
640
00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:20,006
who had these sort of
den mother kind of roles.
641
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:21,007
Careful, boys.
642
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,175
And they were intense.
643
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:26,846
So obviously, there would be no sex.
644
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:29,640
- Hey. Hello.
- Hey!
645
00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:31,976
- Are you going to a wedding?
- You wore a tie.
646
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:33,670
- None of you guys wore ties.
- No.
647
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,314
We didn't.
648
00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:38,441
Ooh!
649
00:38:42,486 --> 00:38:46,699
The whole organization is based
around this idea of male headship.
650
00:38:46,782 --> 00:38:48,326
- Hello.
- Hi.
651
00:38:48,951 --> 00:38:50,911
"As Christ is to the church,
652
00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:52,747
so a man is to his family,"
653
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,550
and that there are
these levels of hierarchy
654
00:38:54,623 --> 00:38:56,042
that must be observed throughout.
655
00:38:56,625 --> 00:38:58,794
- ...mostly blueberries.
- Thanks.
656
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:02,017
It was the most
gender-segregated world I'd ever lived in.
657
00:39:02,048 --> 00:39:03,466
Guys, this is Jeff.
658
00:39:03,549 --> 00:39:04,925
- Yeah. Hi.
- He's new.
659
00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:07,887
And the women
I got to speak to briefly would tell me
660
00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:11,807
that whereas the young men
were being drawn into mentorship
661
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:16,354
by maybe an influential senior member
of the Family, maybe a politician...
662
00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:20,316
Maybe you were going to get a junior job
in a political office.
663
00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:23,736
But for the women,
that wasn't happening for them.
664
00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:25,780
They were being mentored in service,
665
00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:30,409
and directed toward relationships
with men of the Fellowship.
666
00:39:32,578 --> 00:39:35,664
They said
appropriate matches was the goal.
667
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,463
Hey, can I ask you something?
668
00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:44,507
- Yeah.
- Um...
669
00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:49,178
You ever feel weird, like, serving men?
670
00:39:50,846 --> 00:39:52,556
- No.
- No?
671
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:54,892
No. They're so busy loving us,
who's loving them?
672
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Hmm.
673
00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:02,191
You know, God wants to have
a personal relationship with each of us.
674
00:40:03,943 --> 00:40:05,319
Jesus is a person.
675
00:40:06,821 --> 00:40:08,114
A real person.
676
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,533
Not some abstract idea.
677
00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:13,244
He wants you to know him.
678
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:16,372
How can you be so sure?
679
00:40:17,873 --> 00:40:19,291
Don't you have doubts?
680
00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:21,585
That's okay.
681
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,047
Doubt is just a prelude to joy.
682
00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:38,602
As a brother in Ivanwald, we were chosen.
683
00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:39,854
Me, not you.
684
00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,440
You might be a good person,
but you're not a brother.
685
00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,109
- You're not chosen. I am.
- I can't breathe!
686
00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:49,447
That's what you got. What did you give up?
687
00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:53,909
You gave up those who were not chosen.
Other relationships.
688
00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:59,248
So you had the hierarchy,
the concentric rings.
689
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:01,667
At the middle is Jesus.
690
00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:06,130
And next is your cell, your brothers,
691
00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:08,799
and we are only accountable
to one another.
692
00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:11,469
And then after that,
693
00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:17,933
your family, your children,
your parents, your partner. After that.
694
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:23,481
Hitler, Stalin, Mao.
695
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,942
That kind of absolute loyalty,
that was the goal.
696
00:41:29,069 --> 00:41:31,614
I've seen pictures of the young men
697
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,534
in the Red Guard, 20 years,
20, 22 years old, in China.
698
00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,330
A table laid out like a butcher table.
699
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:43,501
They would bring in
this young man's mother and father.
700
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:47,505
Lay her on the table,
with a basket on the end.
701
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:49,173
He would take an...
702
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:51,509
axe and cut her head off.
703
00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:53,052
The Viet Cong.
704
00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:55,346
Hitler. Mussolini, with the Blackshirts.
705
00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:58,974
The one thing in every one of their oaths
706
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:01,810
is we pledge to be totally unified,
even to death.
707
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,189
That was a covenant, a pledge.
708
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:15,032
After I spent many days there,
709
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:18,577
I had come to feel some affection
for the brothers,
710
00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:21,163
and I was feeling more a part of it.
711
00:42:25,125 --> 00:42:29,213
I had gone not with any plan
of how long exactly I was going to stay.
712
00:42:29,296 --> 00:42:31,382
You know,
sort of depending on what I found.
713
00:42:34,927 --> 00:42:40,099
I'd seen all these different,
and in some cases outlandish, Jesuses.
714
00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:46,355
But Ivanwald was really
the most unusual thing I'd encountered.
715
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:51,860
And I thought, "Wow, look at these guys,
they're always thinking about one another.
716
00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:53,696
There is a kindness here."
717
00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:58,033
And so I wasn't ready to leave.
718
00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:08,377
Then one day, Luke,
the man who brought me into it...
719
00:43:09,003 --> 00:43:13,591
His fiance had apparently
been sexually assaulted
720
00:43:13,924 --> 00:43:15,843
and of course his first inclination was,
721
00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:18,053
"I'm on the next plane.
I have to go see her."
722
00:43:18,304 --> 00:43:22,349
The brothers went, "No. No.
We're your brothers.
723
00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,101
Your loyalty is to us.
724
00:43:24,184 --> 00:43:26,562
And why was she sexually assaulted?
725
00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:28,814
Where was she that this happened to her?
726
00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:30,107
What was she doing?"
727
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,528
But Luke went anyways,
728
00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:37,531
and they were so contemptuous of that.
729
00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:40,701
They said Luke was a loser.
730
00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:43,245
He chose her rather than...
731
00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:46,790
playing sports with his brothers.
That made him a loser.
732
00:43:49,877 --> 00:43:53,172
You Jesus before everything else.
It seemed so simple.
733
00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:55,089
It's not.
734
00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:57,926
You're doing the right thing.
735
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,056
Hope it works out for you, Jeff.
I really do.
736
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:04,933
I know you still have a lot of questions.
737
00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:08,896
You ask a lot of fucking questions.
738
00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:11,815
Yeah.
739
00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:15,569
This might answer some of them.
740
00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:34,963
Is there more of this?
741
00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:37,257
Yeah, a lot more.
742
00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,345
For an invisible organization,
they sure do have a lot of files.
743
00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:42,513
Hmm.
744
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:44,430
All right, man.
745
00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,892
- I'm out.
- Hey.
746
00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:54,483
- Good luck.
- Yeah, safe travels.
747
00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:10,082
So I started reading the history
of what I've gotten involved in.
748
00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:15,713
Not just a Christian organization,
749
00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:19,341
but a fundamentally
anti-democratic movement
750
00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:23,595
at the heart of religious conservatism
in the United States for 70 years.
751
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,014
"We desire to see a leadership
led by God,
752
00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:28,016
leaders of all levels of society..."
753
00:45:30,185 --> 00:45:34,064
And what I discovered was
that this organization
754
00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:35,983
that denied it was an organization
755
00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:40,070
was really one of the greatest networks
of powerful figures in the world.
756
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:44,074
Uganda, Romania, Nigeria...
757
00:45:44,491 --> 00:45:47,745
This is the beginning
of a worldwide spiritual offensive.
758
00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:51,707
It began with a meeting
of 19 business executives...
759
00:45:51,790 --> 00:45:53,917
Submerge the institutional image.
760
00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:56,420
No organization, no membership,
761
00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:59,089
- no publicity.- Jesus infiltrating the world.
762
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:02,134
Only God can know
the measure of influence we have had
763
00:46:02,217 --> 00:46:03,051
Chosen.
764
00:46:03,135 --> 00:46:04,615
...the man who will commit himself...
765
00:46:04,678 --> 00:46:06,013
...a challenge to be a true...
766
00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:09,099
- We desire to see a leadership led by God.- Chosen.
767
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:10,823
Leaders of all levels of society...
768
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:12,454
- ...led by God.
- Chosen...
769
00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:13,604
True disciples...
770
00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:16,247
Much has been accomplished.
Brothers committed to Christ...
771
00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:18,025
Much more must be accomplished.
772
00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:24,531
The enemy is still at large.
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