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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.COM 1 00:00:12,053 --> 00:00:13,221 Guys, get off me! 2 00:00:14,639 --> 00:00:15,640 Get off me! 3 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,269 Hey, get off me! 4 00:00:23,356 --> 00:00:26,985 Jesus said, "You have to put me before other people, 5 00:00:27,777 --> 00:00:29,779 and you have to put me before yourself." 6 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:35,452 Hitler... That was a demand, to be in the Nazi party. 7 00:00:36,161 --> 00:00:38,580 They had to put the Nazi party and its objectives 8 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:42,792 ahead of their father, mother, brother, sister, and their own life. 9 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:45,295 That was a covenant. A pledge. 10 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:48,882 But the real work is invisible. 11 00:00:50,341 --> 00:00:52,177 And it is invisibly spreading. 12 00:00:53,428 --> 00:00:56,014 The more you can make your organization invisible, 13 00:00:56,097 --> 00:00:57,557 the more influence it'll have. 14 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:08,234 They will accuse me of betraying their trust. 15 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:11,529 In a fundamental way, I did. 16 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:13,948 They want to be a secret, invisible organization. 17 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:15,484 I wrote two books about them. 18 00:01:17,118 --> 00:01:20,080 But the story is no longer just about my experience. 19 00:01:21,790 --> 00:01:26,294 It took a long time before I realized just who the Family was, 20 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:30,423 and the influence they have had in the leadership of our country. 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,844 This was a group with tentacles around the world, 22 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,388 meeting with presidents, 23 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:38,681 foreign leaders, 24 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:42,477 to spread their view of Jesus throughout the world. 25 00:01:43,394 --> 00:01:45,313 The National Prayer Breakfast: 26 00:01:45,396 --> 00:01:48,817 a Washington institution for Republican and Democratic presidents 27 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:49,900 since Eisenhower. 28 00:01:49,901 --> 00:01:52,987 I want to thank all those inside and outside of Congress 29 00:01:53,071 --> 00:01:54,656 who made this all possible. 30 00:01:55,323 --> 00:01:57,867 They said he's the most powerful man in Washington 31 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,160 you've never heard of. 32 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:00,995 He's like the Wizard of Oz. 33 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:02,681 I wish I could say more about it, 34 00:02:02,705 --> 00:02:06,042 but it's working precisely because it is private. 35 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:09,271 We need to reach leaders. And then if you reach the leaders, 36 00:02:09,295 --> 00:02:11,422 then the whole nation will be influenced for Christ. 37 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:13,675 The notion was floated: What if we lived together? 38 00:02:13,758 --> 00:02:16,761 I was part of a group called C Street when I was in Washington. 39 00:02:16,845 --> 00:02:19,013 Governor Mark Sanford, Senator John Ensign, 40 00:02:19,097 --> 00:02:20,682 all embroiled in scandal... 41 00:02:20,765 --> 00:02:23,351 Doing the Lord's work in the devil's playground. 42 00:02:24,352 --> 00:02:26,688 We meet with some really horrible people. 43 00:02:26,771 --> 00:02:29,482 Dictators and murderers and thieves. 44 00:02:31,067 --> 00:02:33,570 If I were a bad faith actor from another country, 45 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:37,157 that is exactly the kind of meeting that I would want to exploit. 46 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:43,371 Everybody in the room had their hands on this President-elect. 47 00:02:43,621 --> 00:02:45,665 This is what the Family's been waiting for. 48 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,458 He's God's man. 49 00:02:48,042 --> 00:02:50,003 And they say it's about faith, 50 00:02:50,086 --> 00:02:52,046 but there's a shared understanding 51 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:55,175 that what we're really about here is power. 52 00:02:56,509 --> 00:02:57,802 I lived with those guys, 53 00:02:58,303 --> 00:03:02,140 prayed with them at their headquarters at the seat of their power. 54 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:06,603 There were congressmen, senators, world leaders. 55 00:03:07,353 --> 00:03:12,025 An invisible organization that had been hiding in plain sight for over 80 years. 56 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:15,278 People think that there's something sinister. 57 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:17,322 There has to be a conspiracy. 58 00:03:17,822 --> 00:03:19,490 It's the furthest thing from the truth. 59 00:03:20,325 --> 00:03:24,495 It's a breathtaking enmeshment of Church and State. 60 00:03:24,621 --> 00:03:28,124 A humble example of leadership 61 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,584 that the world has never seen. 62 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:32,563 - That's a corruption of democracy. - It's the power of God. 63 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:34,923 This is something that the world desperately needs. 64 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:43,473 Hark! All worry will be left behind. 65 00:03:44,432 --> 00:03:46,559 All disappointment, too, 66 00:03:47,268 --> 00:03:48,811 will be gone forever. 67 00:03:52,732 --> 00:03:56,152 We adopted a program for a worldwide spiritual offensive. 68 00:03:59,322 --> 00:04:01,241 I know, as never before. 69 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:04,535 that we are all God's children. 70 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:09,999 There is only one thing we can take with us through that door. 71 00:04:10,541 --> 00:04:14,212 Those whom we have led to the Savior. 72 00:04:14,295 --> 00:04:16,673 Fear him. Love him. 73 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:18,549 Submit yourself completely. 74 00:04:19,217 --> 00:04:20,885 Then you will be His disciple. 75 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:24,722 What we have begun, we will finish. 76 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:47,996 One of the things I've always found interesting, even as a boy, 77 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:52,083 is the idea that there are these battles between good and evil; 78 00:04:53,668 --> 00:04:58,548 that we are actively engaged in a war with the forces of evil every day, 79 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:03,511 and that there are demonic influences in our lives, 80 00:05:05,054 --> 00:05:06,973 and that you have to be on guard. 81 00:05:08,224 --> 00:05:12,520 So as a boy, this, on the one hand, makes the world a much scarier place. 82 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:15,172 On the other hand, it makes the world a more exciting place. 83 00:05:19,235 --> 00:05:22,280 My mother died of breast cancer. 84 00:05:22,363 --> 00:05:25,366 Um... She was young, and I was just a kid. 85 00:05:28,619 --> 00:05:31,914 She grew up in vaguely Pentecostal Christianity. 86 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,542 And as she lay dying, 87 00:05:34,625 --> 00:05:38,254 she would invite members of various faiths in to pray with her. 88 00:05:41,549 --> 00:05:45,470 And I noticed some of them prayed for her salvation, 89 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:49,557 that she would become a member of their faith, even in death. 90 00:05:51,267 --> 00:05:53,061 And some of them prayed for her deliverance, 91 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:57,774 for a reprieve from her suffering, so that she might live longer. 92 00:06:00,443 --> 00:06:03,821 And that question of deliverance versus salvation, 93 00:06:04,447 --> 00:06:07,825 the world to come or freedom now, 94 00:06:08,826 --> 00:06:10,328 really struck me, 95 00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:16,584 and has lead me into all the stories that I've been interested in ever since. 96 00:06:22,632 --> 00:06:26,761 When I was in my early 20s, I decided to write about religion. 97 00:06:27,845 --> 00:06:31,599 And I was living in New York, working on this book, 98 00:06:31,682 --> 00:06:36,896 and I'd heard that an old friend of mine, a man named Luke, was in town. 99 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:41,275 Luke was a very promising guy, 100 00:06:41,359 --> 00:06:45,822 from a sort of an upper-class family, and had a fine trajectory to his life. 101 00:06:46,572 --> 00:06:49,909 Engaged to be married, and building a financial career. 102 00:06:50,952 --> 00:06:53,246 But then he left all that 103 00:06:53,329 --> 00:06:58,751 and moved across the country to join, um, what his family feared was a cult. 104 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:01,129 He seemed to just drop out, just to disappear. 105 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:07,427 And so his family said, because they knew I wrote about religion, 106 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:10,304 they said, "Would you meet with him and sort of see what he's up to?" 107 00:07:14,725 --> 00:07:17,353 This was very shortly after 9/11. 108 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:20,731 And one of the things he said he was there for... 109 00:07:20,815 --> 00:07:23,317 He wanted to survey the ruins of secularism. 110 00:07:26,821 --> 00:07:31,200 But he said, "Now we see clearly. This is a battle between good and evil." 111 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:34,745 He seems to be a transformed person. 112 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:39,125 And he told me about this amorphous thing that he had joined. 113 00:07:39,208 --> 00:07:41,019 - He says... - "They're not Christians." 114 00:07:41,043 --> 00:07:43,129 We're followers of Jesus, and we just serve. 115 00:07:43,212 --> 00:07:44,797 Who do you serve? 116 00:07:44,881 --> 00:07:47,341 Men who are chosen by God for leadership. 117 00:07:48,176 --> 00:07:49,176 Politicians. 118 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:51,637 - Is there an organization? - No. 119 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:55,433 No church, no ministers, no rules and rituals. 120 00:07:55,933 --> 00:07:57,351 You read the Bible, though, right? 121 00:07:57,435 --> 00:07:59,604 Sure, sure, but mostly, we work. 122 00:08:00,229 --> 00:08:01,230 We... 123 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:04,775 rake leaves, play basketball, clean toilets. 124 00:08:04,859 --> 00:08:08,863 Wait, you clean toilets... for politicians? 125 00:08:08,946 --> 00:08:10,573 I know it sounds weird... 126 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:12,116 - Yeah. - ...but it's not. 127 00:08:13,659 --> 00:08:16,162 It's just a bunch of guys living together. 128 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:18,664 It's great. 129 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:22,084 It seemed so simple. 130 00:08:22,793 --> 00:08:25,546 And then he invited me to come see it for myself. 131 00:08:25,922 --> 00:08:29,133 And knowing almost nothing of it, I did. 132 00:08:29,926 --> 00:08:34,138 Do you take drugs, alcohol, or prescription medication? 133 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:36,516 You only got in by being recommended. 134 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:40,353 And had to go through a little interview at this office on Capitol Hill, 135 00:08:40,436 --> 00:08:44,190 with a senior aide to a Republican senator from Oklahoma at the time. 136 00:08:44,273 --> 00:08:45,459 And do you have a girlfriend? 137 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:48,402 He asked me about my relationship with my girlfriend... 138 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:49,987 - Is she Christian? - Yeah. 139 00:08:50,071 --> 00:08:51,739 ...and about my parents. 140 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:54,367 Questions that I would later come to understand 141 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:57,870 were sort of testing how much was I willing to renounce. 142 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:01,916 And I answered them very honestly. 143 00:09:01,999 --> 00:09:03,251 Because you have to understand, 144 00:09:03,334 --> 00:09:06,087 I was in no way an investigative journalist at this time. 145 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:08,631 - Were you close with your mom? - I was, yeah. 146 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:10,716 There was no stealth, no cleverness. 147 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:13,177 I told them I was a writer, 148 00:09:13,844 --> 00:09:15,555 and I'd been traveling around the country, 149 00:09:15,638 --> 00:09:18,558 trying to understand all the different ideas of Jesus, 150 00:09:19,058 --> 00:09:21,727 and I was interested in getting to know theirs. 151 00:09:24,438 --> 00:09:25,898 Rent is $400. 152 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:27,483 That's with room and board. 153 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:30,278 I think it was about a week later. 154 00:09:30,778 --> 00:09:34,490 I passed the test. I was welcome to come and just live with them 155 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,117 and be a brother, as they put it. 156 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:42,582 A group of the brothers had come to pick me up, 157 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:46,836 and they drove me across the river to Arlington, Virginia, 158 00:09:47,503 --> 00:09:49,380 a suburb of Washington 159 00:09:49,463 --> 00:09:52,508 where a lot of intelligence community folks live. 160 00:09:54,802 --> 00:09:56,679 And we went down into this cul-de-sac 161 00:09:56,762 --> 00:10:00,308 and past this big, beautiful Georgian mansion. 162 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:20,036 - Nice house, huh? - Yeah. 163 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:21,662 Wow. 164 00:10:21,746 --> 00:10:24,123 Look, I didn't know how to explain you to the guys, 165 00:10:24,206 --> 00:10:27,460 so I just said that we're getting a new dude. He's from New York. 166 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:31,297 - He's a writer. He's Jewish. - Half-Jewish, actually. 167 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:33,424 And he wants to know Jesus. 168 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:35,091 Know what they said? 169 00:10:35,843 --> 00:10:36,843 No. 170 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:38,721 "Bring him on." 171 00:10:40,348 --> 00:10:41,349 Let's go. 172 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:45,895 ♪ Everything to God in prayer ♪ 173 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:53,069 ♪ Are there trials and temptations? ♪ 174 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:59,075 So, I move to this house called Ivanwald. 175 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:01,285 Guys? This is, uh, Jeff. 176 00:11:02,453 --> 00:11:04,538 It was buzzing with all these guys. 177 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,624 Sort of a frat house kind of feel. 178 00:11:06,957 --> 00:11:08,125 But no beer, no... 179 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:11,879 Nothing else, you know, very... A pious frat house for God. 180 00:11:11,962 --> 00:11:13,798 ♪ The Lord in prayer... ♪ 181 00:11:13,881 --> 00:11:15,216 And pretty quickly, 182 00:11:15,299 --> 00:11:19,261 I realized this is not what I thought it was going to be. 183 00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:21,263 - Jeff. - Hey, Jeff, welcome to Ivanwald. 184 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:22,556 - Thanks for having me. - Yeah. 185 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,392 I think you're gonna enjoy staying here. 186 00:11:24,475 --> 00:11:26,060 - Let's get you settled in. - Yeah. 187 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:33,067 If you hang out in certain sectors around Washington, 188 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:34,318 you've heard about it. 189 00:11:34,985 --> 00:11:37,655 There was a guy's house and a girl's house down the street, 190 00:11:37,738 --> 00:11:39,281 and it was this little enclave, 191 00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:41,992 sort of a sabbatical from regular life. 192 00:11:45,538 --> 00:11:47,748 There were guys from all over the world, 193 00:11:47,832 --> 00:11:49,500 all walks of life. 194 00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:51,293 Religious, non-religious, 195 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:53,003 questioning, skeptical. 196 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:55,172 It was raw. It was real. 197 00:11:56,632 --> 00:12:02,179 Little more like the 12 guys you read about in this... this book, right? 198 00:12:03,806 --> 00:12:07,017 And as a young Christian working in politics, 199 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:09,186 it was exactly what I needed. 200 00:12:09,687 --> 00:12:10,687 Yeah. 201 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:24,577 The regiment at Ivanwald was so precise it was relaxing. 202 00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:28,706 No swearing, no drinking. 203 00:12:28,956 --> 00:12:31,333 No sex, no self. 204 00:12:32,334 --> 00:12:35,588 You don't waste time on newspapers. Never watch TV. 205 00:12:35,671 --> 00:12:37,798 ...steadfastly into heaven. 206 00:12:37,882 --> 00:12:40,176 You eat meat. You study the gospels. 207 00:12:40,259 --> 00:12:41,552 You play basketball. 208 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:43,870 - Yeah, here we go. - I got outside. 209 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:46,974 God loves a man who can sink a three-pointer. 210 00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:54,481 Hey, Jeff. 211 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:56,442 Will you lead us in prayer? 212 00:12:57,443 --> 00:12:58,444 Sure. 213 00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:06,410 Lord, uh, Lord God, 214 00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:08,287 uh, Heavenly Father. 215 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:11,290 Jesus, thank you so much for... 216 00:13:12,124 --> 00:13:13,918 the guys here, and... 217 00:13:14,543 --> 00:13:17,213 um, the chance to play basketball, and to... 218 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,174 to learn teamwork, and, um... 219 00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:24,136 And learn how to fight for you. 220 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:27,264 We pray all this in Jesus' name. Amen. 221 00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:29,308 - Amen. - Amen. 222 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:31,936 Yeah. 223 00:13:32,019 --> 00:13:33,938 - Bravo. - There he is. 224 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:39,276 The kind of storytelling that I've always found interesting 225 00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:43,948 is submerging of yourself in the lives of others. 226 00:13:45,032 --> 00:13:48,994 Crossing into that world of belief until you're a little bit lost. 227 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:51,831 It's spiritually dangerous, 228 00:13:52,414 --> 00:13:54,625 in the sense that you could be converted. 229 00:13:55,751 --> 00:14:01,465 And at Ivanwald, it meant seeing what happens if, for a time at least, 230 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:04,051 I accepted their ideas. 231 00:14:04,134 --> 00:14:06,095 "Where shall I flee from your presence? 232 00:14:06,178 --> 00:14:08,806 If I ascend into heaven, you are there. 233 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:11,392 If I make my bed in the depths, you are there." 234 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,102 It's intense, right? 235 00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:14,687 It's like, you can't run. 236 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:16,429 Doesn't matter where you turn, 237 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 'cause Jesus is going to be right there, waiting for you. 238 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:22,528 Jesus is smart. 239 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,246 He's going to get you. 240 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:38,209 Let's pray. 241 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:42,715 "I call out to the Lord. 242 00:14:43,382 --> 00:14:45,217 I pray to him for his favor." 243 00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:47,511 "I praise you for I am fearful..." 244 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:49,138 We would pray to be broken. 245 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,098 We would pray to be nothing. 246 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:53,350 We would pray to learn how to obey. 247 00:14:53,434 --> 00:14:54,602 In here, we're safe 248 00:14:54,685 --> 00:14:56,937 with our brothers, learning the ways of Jesus. 249 00:14:57,021 --> 00:15:01,150 They said this is our prime relationship with this Jesus. 250 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:03,614 - Does that make sense to you? - Yeah. 251 00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:07,907 And so we would pray to crush what we would call our inner rebel. 252 00:15:10,326 --> 00:15:12,161 - Jeff? - Hey. 253 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:14,455 - I see you're writing a lot down. - Yeah. 254 00:15:14,997 --> 00:15:16,040 But are you listening? 255 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:19,376 I know it's a lot to take in, 256 00:15:19,835 --> 00:15:21,115 but this is all you really need. 257 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:24,006 It's the Bible. It's the part that matters. 258 00:15:24,381 --> 00:15:25,381 It's just Jesus. 259 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:37,895 One of the things that surprised me was that 260 00:15:37,978 --> 00:15:40,940 though most of these men were very scripturally literate, 261 00:15:41,023 --> 00:15:43,442 they didn't care very much about the Bible. 262 00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:46,403 There was a small book that you're given. 263 00:15:46,487 --> 00:15:48,572 This little book that says "Jesus." 264 00:15:48,656 --> 00:15:51,533 That's it. Just Jesus, nothing else. 265 00:15:51,992 --> 00:15:54,703 And it was four gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, 266 00:15:55,496 --> 00:16:00,292 with the Book of Acts referred to here as Acts of Ambassadors. 267 00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,797 And they didn't need to read too much further than that. 268 00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:09,927 There's not a whole lot of theology. 269 00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:13,681 There's no wrestling with God, with conscience, 270 00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:17,601 traditional concerns of fundamentalism. They don't talk about the devil. 271 00:16:18,018 --> 00:16:20,771 Just Jesus. Just Jesus. That's all. 272 00:16:21,563 --> 00:16:23,816 Now, which part of Jesus was Psalm 137? 273 00:16:24,274 --> 00:16:25,484 137... 274 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:28,612 "O daughter of Babylon who are to be destroyed, 275 00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:31,782 happy shall he be that taketh the little ones 276 00:16:31,865 --> 00:16:33,784 and dasheth them against the stones." 277 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:37,454 Which part of Jesus would be in that? 278 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:39,832 Jeff, brother, I don't know, 279 00:16:40,624 --> 00:16:43,460 but I'm pretty sure he'll let you know when it's time. 280 00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:48,090 They said Christianity's been misunderstood. 281 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:50,426 That all the rubes out there, the suckers, 282 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:54,972 they think that Christ came to preach equally to everybody. Not so. 283 00:16:57,766 --> 00:17:01,103 They said he had rings of power. Closest are James and Peter. 284 00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:04,398 Then you go out another circle, and there's the disciples. 285 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:06,316 And out here... 286 00:17:07,151 --> 00:17:09,695 is everybody else, and they'll get the message, 287 00:17:10,070 --> 00:17:12,906 but they won't get it in unvarnished form. 288 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,242 They can't handle the truth. 289 00:17:15,993 --> 00:17:17,244 Let us be nothing. 290 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:20,247 But now we've moved from this outer ring 291 00:17:20,330 --> 00:17:22,833 to one of those very near inner circles. 292 00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:27,004 - And we are the new chosen. - Please, Jesus... 293 00:17:27,087 --> 00:17:29,256 - The ones that matter. - ...work through us. 294 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:39,975 As a brother in Ivanwald, as one among these new chosen, 295 00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:44,688 some of us were assigned to work in their headquarters called the Cedars. 296 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:49,193 We would rake leaves. We'd clean toilets. 297 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:51,737 I thought this was so absurd, 298 00:17:51,945 --> 00:17:54,948 this religious movement of humbling yourself 299 00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:56,909 by cleaning the toilets of the powerful. 300 00:18:02,122 --> 00:18:03,282 Load some of these up. 301 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:10,422 The Cedars is this big, white-pillared mansion 302 00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:12,674 that looks a little bit like the White House. 303 00:18:15,385 --> 00:18:18,597 And it is very clearly the seat of their power, 304 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,934 because it's where they host a lot of foreign leaders. 305 00:18:22,851 --> 00:18:24,603 Wait, I recognize him. 306 00:18:26,021 --> 00:18:28,690 That's that, uh, Republican Senator from Oklahoma. 307 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:30,943 Yeah. They all come here. 308 00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:32,276 Left, right, 309 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:33,445 Republican, Democrat. 310 00:18:33,862 --> 00:18:38,325 But those terms don't reflect the movement's vision. 311 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:40,244 It's bigger than that. 312 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:43,914 We had the president of Uganda here the other day. 313 00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:45,666 We prayed for him. 314 00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:49,670 Yeah. The Family has friends all over the world. 315 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:56,610 There were African diplomats, 316 00:18:57,177 --> 00:18:58,220 Russian nationals, 317 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,222 congressmen, senators, 318 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,851 and that's when I realized: this is important. 319 00:19:03,934 --> 00:19:05,769 This is not just a fascinating story. 320 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:07,396 These are powerful people. 321 00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:25,164 Yeah, I'd heard about 'em, but it was more public lore. 322 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:28,208 They weren't neighbors that you really got to know very well. 323 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:35,090 I got to know them because unfortunately one of their limousines ran over my cat. 324 00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:38,510 So there... there were a couple of incidents like that. 325 00:19:38,677 --> 00:19:40,637 They didn't endear themselves to the neighborhood. 326 00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,514 Hey! Carla's here, too. 327 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,350 - I found some correspondence. - Oh, good. 328 00:19:45,434 --> 00:19:46,351 Yes, yes. 329 00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:49,188 Being involved in the neighborhood, I got the impression 330 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:52,399 that you're either with them, or you're not with them. 331 00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:55,652 They had a... oh, a big map of the neighborhood. 332 00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:56,862 This is interesting, Carla. 333 00:19:56,945 --> 00:20:00,782 Did you know that they had a 3-by-4-foot map of the neighborhood 334 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:03,994 with each house and a designated color, 335 00:20:04,077 --> 00:20:07,331 depending upon how supportive they were of the Fellowship? 336 00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:10,417 Green, yellow, and red. 337 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:14,087 Support, indifference, or antagonism. 338 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:17,216 - I forgot that, too. - So it's kind of like a war map. 339 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:21,386 For a long time, I was the president of the civic association, 340 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:24,806 which is why I knocked on the door one day 341 00:20:25,098 --> 00:20:28,393 and said, "I'd like to find out just what this is all about." 342 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:33,190 So this very nice man gave me a tour of the big house, the Cedars. 343 00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:36,526 And it was very much mid-nineteenth-century. 344 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:38,695 Beautifully restored 345 00:20:38,779 --> 00:20:43,367 in the style of interior decoration you'd have if you want to impress people. 346 00:20:45,410 --> 00:20:48,664 And then they gave me a tour of the boys' residence hall. 347 00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:51,375 And the boys are outside, 348 00:20:51,875 --> 00:20:54,461 landscaping and cleaning the gutters. 349 00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:58,006 And the kids there said that they would continue to do this 350 00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:59,675 until God spoke to them 351 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:03,011 and gave them their instructions for the rest of their life. 352 00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:07,099 And I said, "I have to say that for a bunch of people in their 20s, 353 00:21:07,182 --> 00:21:09,559 these are abnormally passive." 354 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,440 While I was in the boys' dormitory, 355 00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:19,403 one of them said, "You know, we have a Tuesday night prayer meeting. 356 00:21:19,486 --> 00:21:20,988 Why don't you join us?" 357 00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:24,491 So I went to their Tuesday night prayer meetings, 358 00:21:24,574 --> 00:21:26,368 week after week after week. 359 00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:31,081 What they offer their followers is a sense of belonging, 360 00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:33,500 a kind of unquestioning... 361 00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:35,627 "We're with you through thick and thin." 362 00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:39,172 And there's something very alluring about that. 363 00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:42,801 I wouldn't mind being accepted by a group of people... 364 00:21:43,051 --> 00:21:44,678 unquestioningly. 365 00:21:47,055 --> 00:21:50,809 I only got a little glimpse of their theology, 366 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:55,814 and I really don't know about their form of Christianity, 367 00:21:55,897 --> 00:21:58,191 or if even they are all Christians. 368 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:04,072 But when I learned how they're very unapologetically targeting 369 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:05,907 the rich and powerful, 370 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:08,452 I found that to be disturbing. 371 00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:11,747 But I never asked any impolite questions. 372 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:13,332 I just sat and listened. 373 00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:17,127 And then the following week, there was no prayer meeting. 374 00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:20,213 And there was no prayer meeting ever again after that. 375 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,760 I think they were trying to shake me off. 376 00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:32,768 Okay. I know, I know. Just try to take a deep breath. 377 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,478 You're home, right? 378 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:37,481 I mean, wish I was there with you right now, I really do, 379 00:22:37,564 --> 00:22:39,191 but there's nothing I can do about it. 380 00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:43,028 Because I can't just walk out of here! 381 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:45,821 Be calm. 382 00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:49,076 I will... I'll ask them, okay? And maybe tomorrow, or... 383 00:22:49,993 --> 00:22:52,996 No, no, you can't come here. 384 00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:16,770 Hey. 385 00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:17,687 How are you? 386 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:22,025 Yeah, it's good to hear your voice, too. 387 00:23:22,109 --> 00:23:26,238 Yeah, no, I have a lot to tell you about, so... 388 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,990 Gonna have to confiscate that. 389 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:30,533 Let me call you back. 390 00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:31,660 All right, bye. 391 00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:36,956 I'm just kidding. 392 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:40,141 Phone calls are allowed, but they're discouraged for new brothers. 393 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,003 We want your full attention. 394 00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:45,799 I was just, like, letting Luke have some time with his fiancee. 395 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,760 Luke's fiancee is a Jezebel. 396 00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,345 She doesn't obey God. 397 00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,015 We're accountable to each other, Jeff. That's the brotherhood. 398 00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:57,561 I'm here to make sure you don't deviate from Christ's will. 399 00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:00,146 All right? 400 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:03,149 Okay. 401 00:24:05,652 --> 00:24:07,154 It's important to remember, 402 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,282 these brothers, they were not bad guys. 403 00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:13,618 They were there because they wanted meaning in their life. 404 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:17,247 They wanted to feel like they were part of something valuable. 405 00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:20,046 I remember one day, I'd been there for a while, 406 00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:23,503 and one of the brothers, he says, "Guys, I have something for you to do. 407 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:25,004 Arm wrestle." 408 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,679 Don't stiffen up, man. 409 00:24:33,388 --> 00:24:34,973 Here we go. No, no, no. 410 00:24:35,056 --> 00:24:37,225 Use your... Lower, lower. Get lower, Jeff. 411 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:46,109 And then someone yells, "Fumble!" and then suddenly, 412 00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:49,404 they were all piling on me and, you know, hitting. 413 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:53,450 Get off me! Get off me! 414 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:54,910 I said, get off me! 415 00:24:57,537 --> 00:25:00,057 And at that time, I thought, "This is really strange." 416 00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:03,919 But as it turns out, there was actually a spiritual message to this. 417 00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:11,218 The Jesus most of us are familiar with is tender and loving. 418 00:25:13,053 --> 00:25:14,304 He's the lamb of God. 419 00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:16,598 A figure of peace and gentleness. 420 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:19,768 But no, their idea of Jesus... 421 00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:23,480 Jesus' love is strong. As they'd said, "Jesus is not a sissy." 422 00:25:23,563 --> 00:25:25,190 And if Jesus was alive today, 423 00:25:25,273 --> 00:25:27,067 maybe he would be a Navy SEAL. 424 00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:29,986 If Jesus was alive today, he'd be great at football. 425 00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:34,199 And so this was spiritual training. 426 00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:38,078 It was a kind of muscular Christianity. 427 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:45,544 And they were, as I came to understand, crushing Christ into me. 428 00:25:47,754 --> 00:25:54,219 This was the initiation in which all our bodies became one. 429 00:25:55,136 --> 00:25:57,430 I can't breathe! Guys, I can't breathe. 430 00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:58,514 I can't breathe. 431 00:25:58,932 --> 00:25:59,932 Get off me. 432 00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:16,658 One falls down, his friend can help him up. 433 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:18,535 You're one of us now. 434 00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:21,997 - Come on, circle up. - Phew! 435 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,838 The brothers referred to our group as a family. 436 00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:34,301 And they said I'd become a member of the Family. 437 00:26:35,635 --> 00:26:37,804 Or the Fellowship, as it's sometimes known. 438 00:26:40,348 --> 00:26:42,434 But the name is not important. 439 00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,519 Let's go. 440 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,403 And sometimes I would make a mistake 441 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:48,064 and refer to some political figure... 442 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,068 "Oh, so they're a member? Can we..." "No, they are a friend of the Family." 443 00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:54,112 There was all these subtle distinctions. 444 00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,366 And that's part of the invisibility of it. 445 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:14,633 I asked one time about the hierarchy, the organizational structure. 446 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,720 And they said, "Why do you keep talking about this? 447 00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:21,765 It's just me and you, you and you, 448 00:27:21,848 --> 00:27:24,184 and we are accountable to one another. 449 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:28,146 And that's just the way God wants it." 450 00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,320 It never occurred to me to, you know, sort of asked for an org chart. 451 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:38,865 Who are the people, how is it organized? What's the structure? 452 00:27:38,948 --> 00:27:41,108 And of course, the people who'd been around a long time 453 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,620 were just really quick to say, "Don't call it anything." 454 00:27:43,703 --> 00:27:45,303 I'm like, "You gotta call it something." 455 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,970 So yeah, you kinda call it the Fellowship, 456 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,502 or you call it a group of friends following Jesus, whatever it was. 457 00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:52,587 But definitions aside, 458 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,923 you know, trying to stick a label on it, 459 00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:58,009 you see what's happening relationally, 460 00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:01,721 and where else is this happening? 461 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:04,307 This is something that the world desperately needs. 462 00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:06,768 Well, you're gonna have a shorter nose. 463 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:13,441 You guys are here to learn how to rule the world. 464 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:20,323 You have very intense eyes. 465 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:23,284 Thank you. 466 00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:26,909 Hey, let's talk about the Old Testament. 467 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,417 Who would you say are its good guys? 468 00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:32,961 - Moses? - Noah? 469 00:28:33,962 --> 00:28:34,962 David. 470 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,881 King David, that's a good one. 471 00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:39,884 What would you say made him a good guy? 472 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:42,554 His faith was so strong. 473 00:28:42,637 --> 00:28:44,806 King David liked to do some really bad things. 474 00:28:45,306 --> 00:28:48,852 I mean, this is a guy who slept with another man's wife, Bathsheba, right? 475 00:28:49,644 --> 00:28:51,813 And he basically murders her husband. 476 00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:54,441 And this guy is supposedly one of our heroes? 477 00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:58,403 Jiminy Christmas. God likes this guy. 478 00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:01,614 What is that all about? 479 00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:04,617 Is it because he tried? 480 00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,912 He wanted to do the right thing. 481 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:10,581 Anyone else? 482 00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:13,042 'Cause he was chosen. 483 00:29:14,294 --> 00:29:16,504 Yeah. Chosen. 484 00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:22,177 Interesting set of rules, isn't it? 485 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,598 Let's say here one of you here raped three little girls, 486 00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,475 and now you're sitting here at Ivanwald. 487 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:30,560 What would I think of you? 488 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:34,731 That I'm a terrible person? 489 00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:35,815 No, I wouldn't. 490 00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:40,612 That's not why I'm here. It's not my job to judge you. 491 00:29:42,363 --> 00:29:43,573 I'm here for one thing. 492 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:45,741 What is that? 493 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:49,870 Jesus? 494 00:29:55,835 --> 00:29:58,922 That disturbing moment sort of crystallizes it for me. 495 00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,802 This core idea that some people are more chosen than others. 496 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,805 And if you're chosen, 497 00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:08,807 doesn't matter what you do. 498 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:11,017 I'd still be with you. 499 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,980 - And then he said... - We elect our leaders, 500 00:30:16,689 --> 00:30:17,899 Jesus elects his. 501 00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:20,985 And we warn everyone, 502 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:22,821 the future king is coming. 503 00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:25,698 Not just of this country... 504 00:30:28,535 --> 00:30:29,577 but of the world. 505 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,796 The Cedars is a set-apart place. 506 00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:42,757 It's a historic place, it's a beautiful place, 507 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:47,220 and it is a place that offers hospitality to the world. 508 00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:52,851 There was a weekly breakfast that we were responsible for, 509 00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:55,562 I think we called it the ambassador's breakfast. 510 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,481 How many ambassadors were actually present is always, you know... 511 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,233 I think a fairly limited number. 512 00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:01,651 But it was a chance for people 513 00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:04,404 who were in and out of various stages of public life 514 00:31:04,487 --> 00:31:06,030 to have breakfast together in prayer. 515 00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:10,095 - Mr. Attorney-General. - Oh, my! It's so wonderful to see you. 516 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:13,079 Folks are able to sort of let their guard down, 517 00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:14,362 folks in leadership positions, 518 00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:17,876 and have real conversations, 519 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,253 out of the limelight. 520 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,755 Out of the eye of the camera. 521 00:31:23,464 --> 00:31:25,508 And trusting that Jesus would... 522 00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:27,760 would be present there. 523 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:32,557 This is impressive. 524 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,684 That's the former attorney-general. 525 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,404 Matthew 11:27. 526 00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:49,782 "No one knows the son except the father. 527 00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:53,578 And no one knows the father except the son, 528 00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:57,749 and those to whom the son chooses to reveal himself. 529 00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:05,965 I didn't have to ask who was in charge, because we talked about him often. 530 00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,510 It was a guy named Doug Coe. 531 00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,721 Know we're going to do everything we possibly can 532 00:32:11,804 --> 00:32:13,973 to be of help to you and your country. 533 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:15,600 He hates the limelight. 534 00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:18,686 It's not about him, it's about Jesus. 535 00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:22,732 I wanted to give you a small gift of our small world. 536 00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,027 He was introduced to me as sort of like a brother, 537 00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,279 but he's like the first brother. 538 00:32:29,238 --> 00:32:31,074 They said said he was a very simple man 539 00:32:31,157 --> 00:32:34,369 who was closer to Jesus than anybody alive, 540 00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:38,456 and that if Doug Coe prayed for something, 541 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:40,249 it just happened. 542 00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:48,549 They liked very much that nobody outside of the Family 543 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:50,051 knew who Doug Coe was. 544 00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:54,764 They loved telling stories about how Doug Coe just showed up 545 00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:56,182 in some president's office 546 00:32:56,265 --> 00:32:58,309 or some prime minister's house. 547 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,066 He was clearly a leader to this movement. 548 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,194 And so, you know, "Who is Doug Coe?" 549 00:33:08,277 --> 00:33:10,905 is what I really wanted to know at this point. 550 00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:13,491 You know what I'm concerned about? 551 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:14,825 The Muslim. 552 00:33:15,284 --> 00:33:16,786 The Muslim has too many babies. 553 00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:18,454 We kill too many of ours. 554 00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:23,334 What is the best way for Christians to win the race against the Muslims? 555 00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:27,338 Too many Muslim babies could be a problem. 556 00:33:28,631 --> 00:33:30,258 But your focus on labels, 557 00:33:31,092 --> 00:33:34,887 Christian and Muslim, gets in the way of your prayers. 558 00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:38,641 Organized religion distracts from Jesus. 559 00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:43,104 We've got to take Jesus out of the religious wrapping. 560 00:33:43,479 --> 00:33:44,522 How do we do that? 561 00:33:46,941 --> 00:33:48,026 It's good to have friends. 562 00:33:49,152 --> 00:33:51,779 Do you know what a difference a friend can make? 563 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,573 A friend that you can agree with? 564 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:58,327 Two or three friends agree and pray. 565 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,164 They can do anything. 566 00:34:02,498 --> 00:34:03,498 Agreement. 567 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:05,375 You're a writer. 568 00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:07,170 What's that mean? 569 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,046 Uh... 570 00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:11,173 Unity. 571 00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:12,842 Agreement means unity. 572 00:34:13,342 --> 00:34:14,342 Total unity. 573 00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:17,805 You know, there's another word for that. 574 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:20,892 A covenant. 575 00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,351 - Covenant. - Hmm. 576 00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:25,813 Can you think of anyone who made a covenant... 577 00:34:26,439 --> 00:34:28,232 - with his friends? - Jesus. 578 00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:31,276 Hitler. 579 00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:33,404 Hitler made a covenant. 580 00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,032 The Mafia made a covenant. 581 00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:38,993 Look at the strength of their bonds. 582 00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,249 It's a powerful thing. 583 00:34:46,334 --> 00:34:48,544 You see, with them, it's honor. 584 00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:50,588 With us, it's Jesus. 585 00:34:51,631 --> 00:34:53,591 Hitler, Stalin, 586 00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:56,010 Mao Tse-tung, Osama bin Laden. 587 00:34:56,886 --> 00:35:00,139 The Family possesses a weapon those leaders lacked. 588 00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:05,228 The "total Jesus" of a brotherhood in Christ. 589 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:07,772 That's what you get with a covenant. 590 00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:12,235 Jesus, plus nothing. 591 00:35:14,821 --> 00:35:15,988 That phrase, 592 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:17,782 "Jesus plus nothing," 593 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,495 simultaneously banal and totalitarian... 594 00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:23,578 Well, guys, I gotta go. 595 00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,082 ...leaves these congressman sitting there 596 00:35:26,165 --> 00:35:28,626 as if they've been given a revelation. 597 00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:32,588 And it's just like other men have said. 598 00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:35,716 "Doug helped bring me out of religion and into Christ." 599 00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:42,473 Doug Coe was a saintly person 600 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:47,603 who put other people first. 601 00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:49,730 Put a relationship with the Lord first. 602 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:53,901 And he didn't really want any accolades. 603 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:57,780 I remember, near the end of my season at Ivanwald, 604 00:35:57,864 --> 00:36:00,199 I got to help plan a prayer breakfast, 605 00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:01,993 and I remember Doug specifically saying, 606 00:36:02,076 --> 00:36:06,873 "Hey, Google me, and let's get any reference down. 607 00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:10,626 We just... I just don't want to be... I don't want anybody to know, 608 00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:15,673 uh, and to have a sense of I'm sort of this power figure behind this. 609 00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:18,986 I just, you know... This is about the Lord. This is about bringing people together. 610 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,930 This is about something much greater than me." 611 00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:27,894 What a wonderfully reassuring thing, 612 00:36:27,977 --> 00:36:32,732 in a town that thrives on power and prestige and influence. 613 00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:36,152 So let's be influential, but let's do it quietly. 614 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:39,113 Um... So, you know, that was Doug. 615 00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,576 Jesus Christ, 616 00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:45,119 when he organizes, 617 00:36:45,369 --> 00:36:48,706 the way he puts the organization together, he makes it invisible. 618 00:36:48,789 --> 00:36:50,458 When you look at your body, 619 00:36:50,541 --> 00:36:53,669 you don't see your liver and your muscles and your brains hanging out. 620 00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:57,465 What he did is he put the finest organization, 621 00:36:57,548 --> 00:36:59,050 and he put a beautiful skin over it. 622 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,760 When you look at the Mafia, 623 00:37:00,843 --> 00:37:03,346 they also use the same type of organization. 624 00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:07,058 Everything visible... is transitory. 625 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,769 Everything invisible is permanent and lasts forever. 626 00:37:09,852 --> 00:37:12,396 The more you can make your organization invisible, 627 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,023 the more influence it'll have. 628 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,904 I wrote openly in my journal, and less openly as time went on. 629 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,740 Things that surprised me, 630 00:37:22,823 --> 00:37:25,785 conversation I heard and questions that emerged. 631 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:31,332 As time went on, the journal becomes more and more of a detective's journal. 632 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,214 I wondered, what do they really mean by "Jesus plus nothing"? 633 00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:42,551 What kind of influence did they want to have in the world? 634 00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:50,268 I didn't know then what the ultimate vision was, 635 00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,813 but life at Ivanwald seemed to provide some clues. 636 00:37:58,442 --> 00:38:02,405 One night, there was a social with our sister house, 637 00:38:02,488 --> 00:38:05,032 young women of this house called Potomac Point. 638 00:38:08,327 --> 00:38:11,998 Some of them were really young. Most were sort of in their mid-twenties. 639 00:38:13,374 --> 00:38:17,545 There was also a few wives of the senior men around, 640 00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:20,006 who had these sort of den mother kind of roles. 641 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:21,007 Careful, boys. 642 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,175 And they were intense. 643 00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:26,846 So obviously, there would be no sex. 644 00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:29,640 - Hey. Hello. - Hey! 645 00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:31,976 - Are you going to a wedding? - You wore a tie. 646 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:33,670 - None of you guys wore ties. - No. 647 00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,314 We didn't. 648 00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:38,441 Ooh! 649 00:38:42,486 --> 00:38:46,699 The whole organization is based around this idea of male headship. 650 00:38:46,782 --> 00:38:48,326 - Hello. - Hi. 651 00:38:48,951 --> 00:38:50,911 "As Christ is to the church, 652 00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:52,747 so a man is to his family," 653 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,550 and that there are these levels of hierarchy 654 00:38:54,623 --> 00:38:56,042 that must be observed throughout. 655 00:38:56,625 --> 00:38:58,794 - ...mostly blueberries. - Thanks. 656 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:02,017 It was the most gender-segregated world I'd ever lived in. 657 00:39:02,048 --> 00:39:03,466 Guys, this is Jeff. 658 00:39:03,549 --> 00:39:04,925 - Yeah. Hi. - He's new. 659 00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:07,887 And the women I got to speak to briefly would tell me 660 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:11,807 that whereas the young men were being drawn into mentorship 661 00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:16,354 by maybe an influential senior member of the Family, maybe a politician... 662 00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:20,316 Maybe you were going to get a junior job in a political office. 663 00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:23,736 But for the women, that wasn't happening for them. 664 00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:25,780 They were being mentored in service, 665 00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:30,409 and directed toward relationships with men of the Fellowship. 666 00:39:32,578 --> 00:39:35,664 They said appropriate matches was the goal. 667 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,463 Hey, can I ask you something? 668 00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:44,507 - Yeah. - Um... 669 00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:49,178 You ever feel weird, like, serving men? 670 00:39:50,846 --> 00:39:52,556 - No. - No? 671 00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:54,892 No. They're so busy loving us, who's loving them? 672 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,560 Hmm. 673 00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:02,191 You know, God wants to have a personal relationship with each of us. 674 00:40:03,943 --> 00:40:05,319 Jesus is a person. 675 00:40:06,821 --> 00:40:08,114 A real person. 676 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,533 Not some abstract idea. 677 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:13,244 He wants you to know him. 678 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:16,372 How can you be so sure? 679 00:40:17,873 --> 00:40:19,291 Don't you have doubts? 680 00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:21,585 That's okay. 681 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,047 Doubt is just a prelude to joy. 682 00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:38,602 As a brother in Ivanwald, we were chosen. 683 00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:39,854 Me, not you. 684 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,440 You might be a good person, but you're not a brother. 685 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,109 - You're not chosen. I am. - I can't breathe! 686 00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:49,447 That's what you got. What did you give up? 687 00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:53,909 You gave up those who were not chosen. Other relationships. 688 00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:59,248 So you had the hierarchy, the concentric rings. 689 00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:01,667 At the middle is Jesus. 690 00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:06,130 And next is your cell, your brothers, 691 00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:08,799 and we are only accountable to one another. 692 00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:11,469 And then after that, 693 00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:17,933 your family, your children, your parents, your partner. After that. 694 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:23,481 Hitler, Stalin, Mao. 695 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,942 That kind of absolute loyalty, that was the goal. 696 00:41:29,069 --> 00:41:31,614 I've seen pictures of the young men 697 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,534 in the Red Guard, 20 years, 20, 22 years old, in China. 698 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,330 A table laid out like a butcher table. 699 00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:43,501 They would bring in this young man's mother and father. 700 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:47,505 Lay her on the table, with a basket on the end. 701 00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:49,173 He would take an... 702 00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:51,509 axe and cut her head off. 703 00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:53,052 The Viet Cong. 704 00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:55,346 Hitler. Mussolini, with the Blackshirts. 705 00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:58,974 The one thing in every one of their oaths 706 00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:01,810 is we pledge to be totally unified, even to death. 707 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,189 That was a covenant, a pledge. 708 00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:15,032 After I spent many days there, 709 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:18,577 I had come to feel some affection for the brothers, 710 00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:21,163 and I was feeling more a part of it. 711 00:42:25,125 --> 00:42:29,213 I had gone not with any plan of how long exactly I was going to stay. 712 00:42:29,296 --> 00:42:31,382 You know, sort of depending on what I found. 713 00:42:34,927 --> 00:42:40,099 I'd seen all these different, and in some cases outlandish, Jesuses. 714 00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:46,355 But Ivanwald was really the most unusual thing I'd encountered. 715 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:51,860 And I thought, "Wow, look at these guys, they're always thinking about one another. 716 00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:53,696 There is a kindness here." 717 00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:58,033 And so I wasn't ready to leave. 718 00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:08,377 Then one day, Luke, the man who brought me into it... 719 00:43:09,003 --> 00:43:13,591 His fiance had apparently been sexually assaulted 720 00:43:13,924 --> 00:43:15,843 and of course his first inclination was, 721 00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:18,053 "I'm on the next plane. I have to go see her." 722 00:43:18,304 --> 00:43:22,349 The brothers went, "No. No. We're your brothers. 723 00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,101 Your loyalty is to us. 724 00:43:24,184 --> 00:43:26,562 And why was she sexually assaulted? 725 00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:28,814 Where was she that this happened to her? 726 00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:30,107 What was she doing?" 727 00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,528 But Luke went anyways, 728 00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:37,531 and they were so contemptuous of that. 729 00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:40,701 They said Luke was a loser. 730 00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:43,245 He chose her rather than... 731 00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:46,790 playing sports with his brothers. That made him a loser. 732 00:43:49,877 --> 00:43:53,172 You Jesus before everything else. It seemed so simple. 733 00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:55,089 It's not. 734 00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:57,926 You're doing the right thing. 735 00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,056 Hope it works out for you, Jeff. I really do. 736 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:04,933 I know you still have a lot of questions. 737 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:08,896 You ask a lot of fucking questions. 738 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:11,815 Yeah. 739 00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:15,569 This might answer some of them. 740 00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:34,963 Is there more of this? 741 00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:37,257 Yeah, a lot more. 742 00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,345 For an invisible organization, they sure do have a lot of files. 743 00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:42,513 Hmm. 744 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:44,430 All right, man. 745 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,892 - I'm out. - Hey. 746 00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:54,483 - Good luck. - Yeah, safe travels. 747 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:10,082 So I started reading the history of what I've gotten involved in. 748 00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:15,713 Not just a Christian organization, 749 00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:19,341 but a fundamentally anti-democratic movement 750 00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:23,595 at the heart of religious conservatism in the United States for 70 years. 751 00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,014 "We desire to see a leadership led by God, 752 00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:28,016 leaders of all levels of society..." 753 00:45:30,185 --> 00:45:34,064 And what I discovered was that this organization 754 00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:35,983 that denied it was an organization 755 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:40,070 was really one of the greatest networks of powerful figures in the world. 756 00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:44,074 Uganda, Romania, Nigeria... 757 00:45:44,491 --> 00:45:47,745 This is the beginning of a worldwide spiritual offensive. 758 00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:51,707 It began with a meeting of 19 business executives... 759 00:45:51,790 --> 00:45:53,917 Submerge the institutional image. 760 00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:56,420 No organization, no membership, 761 00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:59,089 - no publicity. - Jesus infiltrating the world. 762 00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:02,134 Only God can know the measure of influence we have had 763 00:46:02,217 --> 00:46:03,051 Chosen. 764 00:46:03,135 --> 00:46:04,615 ...the man who will commit himself... 765 00:46:04,678 --> 00:46:06,013 ...a challenge to be a true... 766 00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:09,099 - We desire to see a leadership led by God. - Chosen. 767 00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:10,823 Leaders of all levels of society... 768 00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:12,454 - ...led by God. - Chosen... 769 00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:13,604 True disciples... 770 00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:16,247 Much has been accomplished. Brothers committed to Christ... 771 00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:18,025 Much more must be accomplished. 772 00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:24,531 The enemy is still at large. 62823

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