Original subtitles

on this special episode

of "Ghost hunters: International"...

how are you?

..."Destination truth's" Josh gates joins the team...

Josh: I'm excited to get out there And work with this group.

...To investigate Frankenstein's castle.

Frankenstein is the blood Brother of the devil.

is the inspiration For the classic horror story

more fact than fiction?

Are you the frankenstein Haunting the grounds?

Is there anyone in this room With us?

Was that a gasp?

You saw that, right?

what will they uncover

in the evil Of dr. Frankenstein's lab?

My closest brush with death is Andy andrews nearly killing me.

is it ghi's turn To wake the dead?

Something just walked Right over here.

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[ regional music plays ]

Hey, guys.

We got josh gates From "Destination truth."

We invited josh to investigate Castle frankenstein.

Josh is a cryptozoologist,

And many of the techniques That he does

to try and "Dis-myth" myths And legends

are the same as our own. Let's go.

my name is josh gates. I am The host of "Destination truth,"

Which is A travel/adventure series

That follows me around the world In search of the truth

Behind stories of notorious Cryptozoological creatures.

I had a great time hosting

The "Ghost hunters" Live halloween show.

So when they asked me to come And investigate with them

At frankenstein castle, I couldn't pass it up.

It was a great opportunity.

Robb: Josh, it's actually great

That you're able to come Along with us.

We're excited to see What you think.

We don't do a lot of paranormal Stuff on "Destination truth."

We're looking for these big, Dangerous animals.

Everyone is just hoping That my hand

Gets ripped off by something.

I'm gonna be interested to see Just how all of you work

And be able to observe firsthand

And participate In any investigation.

So, donna, what's the case?

frankenstein's castle, Located in darmstadt, germany.

As probably Most of you know,

It was the inspiration For mary shelley's book "Frankenstein."

It was about A mad scientist

Who created this monster Out of body parts.

Mary shelley's book, Even though it's fiction,

There was a thread of it That is true.

There actually was a man Back in 1600s.

his name was Konrad dipple frankenstein.

he was an alchemist.

An alchemist was someone who Studied natural philosophy,

Chemistry, and pharmacology.

The best known goal Of the alchemist

Was to try and turn lead Into gold.

A lesser-known goal was to try And create an elixir of life.

What he was rumored to do Was go and dig up graves,

Get these bodies to use For his elixir of life.

And he claimed that the formula Would allow him

To live to the age of 135.

How did that work out For him? It didn't.

Actually, he took it, And he died.

He actually died In the castle.

That's not good. Not so good.

They say that the castle Is haunted by his ghost

And also the ghosts Of the people that he dug up.

Guys, we're almost there,

So let's get in there And see what's going on.

This looks incredible.

Oh, wow.

[ shannon laughs ]

Wow.

It's awesome.

[ car door opens, closes ]

Wow, this should be Good, huh?

Josh, if you want to go On the tour with us,

That would be terrific. Sure.

You guys gonna unpack And get ready?

Okay.

Hello, gentlemen.

welcome to Frankenstein castle.

Can you tell me about The history of the castle?

Did the castle fall Into ruin in 1602?

It's a beautiful castle. Would you mind giving us a tour?

So people have seen his ghost In this room.

I think a lot of people Come here

Who feel a presence Inside the chapel.

there are many stories, many Ghosts who haunt this chapel.

One of the ghosts should be Frankenstein, of course.

Neubacher: ghosts, spirits, Voices at this tower--

It's a little bit scary.

it's always a feeling of-- As if ants come to your body.

Robb: okay, So, where to next?

If there's a naked girl In this room, I will find her.

[ laughter ]

I will find her.

I think there's quite a bit For us to do here.

You've given us some great Stories to work with.

Thank you.

What can I do?

I want to show you how To set up the dvr.

Here's our monitor.

I try to get as much of the room As possible.

You just want as much coverage As possible.

Now, make sure That camera's good.

That guy's got some Uncomfortable-looking armor on.

Hey.

So, how'd we do?

We got the dvr In the church,

Pointed mostly as the statue And the door.

Everyone's gonna be carrying Equipment with them tonight.

Barry, if you wouldn't mind Grabbing josh

And head up to the tower,

And you can show them how we do An evp session.

Love to.

Let's get going.

donna: So, this is the tower where the Legendary anne marie was here

lighting candles to her lover

To signal him to come up here To be together.

Walter believes she comes up Here, she's nude.

[ both laugh ]

So, normally when you do An evp session,

You use a digital/audio recorder And a powered mike.

we're going to use that Plus the ultrasonic.

Some people believe that Entities communicate with sounds

That are beyond human hearing.

The ultrasonic digital recorder

Allows us to pick up These sounds

And plays them back In a frequency that we can hear.

1, 2, 3. [ beeps ]

Anne marie, my name is donna.

Are you still waiting For your lover

To come up and visit you?

Differs considerably from "Ghi."

We tend to set the digital Recorder and leave the area.

We don't tend to do Any call and response.

We don't tend to actually talk While the recorder's going.

Donna: We cannot hear you now,

But we want to play back These tapes

And hear what you have to say.

Josh: there is this Fundamental question

That I think A lot of people have,

Which is "Why can't we hear answers

"To these questions within The human hearing range?

"Why do we have to get them

Through these Digital recorders?"

And "Are they there? Are we hearing these things?"

So, to watch and participate In a group of people

Running that kind of experiment Is really interesting.

Donna: Do you want to move on?

Are you still attached To this room?

Josh: donna brings The femininity

And gentleness To the way that she questions,

Donna: could you please give us A sign of your presence?

Please talk with us.

Are you the frankenstein Haunting the grounds?

Were you guilty of the crimes Of alchemy?

Josh: and barry has this Kind of thoroughness

And tries to approach it From different angles.

Is it true you died By your own hand?

Did you kill yourself?

Could you please make a loud Noise within this room?

Josh, no doubt You've got the idea.

Would you like to throw Some questions?

Okay. I'll give it a whirl.

Is there anyone in this room With us?

Can you make Some sort of noise

Or some sort of sign To indicate your presence?

Josh: he encouraged me to ask A few questions,

And it's a strange experience For me

Because I don't have An expectation

That I'm going to hear An answer.

I will be really interested To hear

If anything comes up On the tape.

If you are here and you are Present in this room,

Can you make yourself known?

Okay. I think That's long enough.

Donna: good job, josh.

Okay, guys. I think now we'll wrap up here.

andy: one of the aspects of this Is the voices that are heard

inside the chapel when no one Else is in there.

You've got a vent That actually runs

Above the ceiling Of the church.

It goes all the way up.

Do you mind heading in there, And we'll--

Give it about 30 seconds,

And we'll start having A conversation.

Josh, Can you hear anything?

Josh?

Josh, if you can hear us, Come back outside.

Josh, are you there?

I can hear them A little bit.

Robb: hey.

So, I can barely hear you, But it's really muffled.

I don't think there is any way

I would mistake that As coming from inside.

Okay.

Good job, andy.

I didn't do a good job?

You did a good job.

You stood and listened To things?

Well, that's what I do.

donna and shannon At frankenstein castle,

and we're doing an evp session In the chapel.

If there's someone here with us In this chapel right now,

Can you please give us a sign Of your presence?

Is it you who is the statue In back of us?

We heard a story That you broke your neck

And died on these grounds.

We ask that you communicate With us, please.

Flash.

If there's someone in The room and you're Curious about us,

It's okay to talk to us.

Could you rock one of the pews Back and forth?

Bang on the wall?

why are you At castle frankenstein?

are you the alchemist?

It's okay. We are not here to hurt you.

Do you know the man That hangs out on the roof?

[ gasps ]

What?

Was that a gasp?

donna: shannon and I went into A chapel to do an evp session.

we had heard of the story Of the ghost

that roams this chapel inside, And one appears on the roof.

shannon: we are told There are some spirits

that reside in this church.

why are you at castle Frankenstein?

[ gasps ]

What? Was that a gasp?

Yeah, that was me.

I thought You just stood up.

Really? Mm-hmm.

I saw like a shadow As if you stood up,

And I didn't hear the creak In the pew as you stood up.

I know you're sitting Right here.

I'm perfectly still.

That's when I saw something Behind me.

I thought shannon stood up, And she didn't,

And I thought that was strange

Because I would have heard The crack of the pew.

When you stand up, You make movements.

There's something in this place,

And I can't explain What happened.

I can't explain it.

[ door creaking ]

Robb: andy and I came down To the chapel

because donna had a pretty Impressive personal experience

with a shadow in the chapel.

so we wanted to do An evp session.

one of the interesting reports Is that there's a ghost

that actually exists on the top Of the chapel.

also the stories That we've heard

that we need to investigate

Was that one of the statues Of the knight

Actually mysteriously Talks to people.

Evp session in the chapel, Robb and andy.

We understand that there's Someone in here

Who, from time to time, Will speak with people.

You think you could speak With us now?

Who is it That remains here?

Did it just get darker By the window for a second?

I think I saw her, too.

Robb: what andy and I Both did notice

Is that the window that looks Outside grew dark for a moment.

How high is that window?

We needed To investigate it more,

So we ended the evp session.

We left the chapel.

We had to go around The back side of it.

You saw that, right?

Yeah, I did.

And, to our surprise,

There was actually A 30-, 40-foot drop

From the ledge of the window Down to the ground.

There's the window right there. That's quite a drop.

That's weird.

Robb: we get something,

Some kind of shadow that appears 40, 50 feet in the air

In a window by the cathedral.

all right. So, this is the tower.

so, the story here is people Who stand under,

walk under, are hit by rocks That are thrown--

But it's only nasty people.

Nasty, mean people.

People who disturb The ghosts.

Right off the bat, This is what I'm noticing.

It's the sound of rocks.

If it's like that up higher And a piece of it falls off,

It's gonna sound like rocks Being thrown.

andy, andy, Leave the tower standing.

This is josh, robb, and andy.

Evp session-- tower.

If there's someone here

Who has been throwing rocks At passersby,

None of us have a problem, Except maybe josh,

Getting a rock tossed at us Right now.

If you can hear me, please Whip a rock in andy's face.

Is this sci-fi Or comedy central, gentlemen?

But they said that the ghost Only throws rocks

At people who are disturbing The ghost.

My comedy... Will disturb anyone.

Andy, what do you think The chances

Of getting you up there are?

You read my mind.

So, they said We shouldn't go up there

Because it's rickety?

He said it's too dangerous

Because it's old And dilapidated.

But andy weighs About 38 pounds.

So, andy, if you could find A ladder...

Just for clarification,

Did you just rip this pipe off The side of this castle?

That would by a typical "Andy" thing to do.

I don't see any safety concerns With this at all.

Andy: all right.

I'm just gonna check out Up here, see what we got.

I started to explore it Floor by floor.

The first thing that I noticed Is all the cement work

From the walls did fall down,

And it was right at the edge Of the balconies.

Hey, robb. Guys, clear out for a minute.

Stand back. Robb, listen.

The whole step up here At the very edge

Is littered with pieces Of concrete.

So, somebody shuts the door On their way in--

Any kind of strong wind-- It's really windy up here.

[ camera thuds ]

Itwas a camera.

[ laughter ]

Itjust missed my head.

Josh: Having been to some of the most Remote locations in the world,

It is truly impressive that My closest brush with death

Is andy andrews nearly killing Me with a camcorder.

Andy, Is there any possibility

Of you not dropping something Else from there?

Do you have anything else Up there?

A microwave?

All right, you guys. Got it? Yep.

Good job, andy. That was awesome.

shannon and I were in there Earlier doing evp sessions.

Her and I were both sitting On the front pew,

And I swear to god,

A black mass figure came,

Like, sitting up As shannon stood up.

Josh: Barry had the idea to light These candles in the chapel,

Kind of set the mood a little Bit, get the ambiance going.

[ beeps ] Donnas: this is donna, barry, And josh in the chapel.

Could you please tell us Your name?

Can you see us? Can you hear us?

Are you angry That we are here?

Is this disrespectful?

Josh: is there a presence In this room?

Can you give us some sign

That you're here?

There was just a little Spark of light

Caught me eye in that corner Where the candles were lit.

Barry thought he saw a flash Of light,

Which he thought Might have been the entity

Trying to manifest itself,

So he blew out the candles,

Trying to make it easier for him To capture an image.

Now you've got Your darkness.

When the candles were blown out, It went totally dark.

And it's so black, There's no peripheral vision.

Things got a little bit heavy.

We are getting a feeling That you do not want us here.

If so, if that is correct--

Barry, where are you?

I'm over here. All right. Where?

Here. I'm looking directly at you.

I thought you were Right in back of me.

Something just walked Right over here.

donna: Josh, barry, and I went in The chapel to do an evp session.

josh: barry thought he saw A flash of light,

which he thought Might have been the entity

trying to manifest itself,

so he blew out the candles,

trying to make it easier for him To capture an image.

he blew out the lights, and it Seemed to get more intense.

we are getting a feeling That you do not want us here.

if so, if that is correct--

barry, where are you?

I'm over here. All right. Where?

here. I'm looking directly at you.

I thought you were right In back of me.

Something just walked Right over here.

I have to--

Donna: I thought I saw something pass

Behind the pew That I was sitting in.

I thought it was barry,

And I asked right away, "Is that You, barry? Where are you?"

And his voice was coming From the other end of the pew,

So I knew it wasn't him.

There was something, Like a black figure,

That just came across the back,

And it really, really Freaked me out.

Josh: donna had some sort Of experience.

She was clearly startled.

I certainly felt very tense.

Barry: You want us to leave?

Are you a member of the church?

Or are you something else?

is there a presence here That wishes to communicate?

barry: josh was grand.

he understood that we needed The silence within the session,

And he participated With the questions.

Is there a presence In this room?

And it was exceptional.

Okay, that's the end Of there, donna.

Okay, good. Danke schon.

Josh: it's been great.

Between just sort of Using eyes and ears

And doing the evp sessions And the thermal walk-through,

I'm certainly getting a sense

Of the way in which This team works.

Donna: anne marie, Are you still waiting

For your lover to come back?

barry: we're also reaching A hand out

to johan konrad dipple Frankenstein.

Is there anything you wish To say to us?

we're trying to communicate With you.

can you find a way To communicate with us?

is there anybody buried On this property?

is it your choice To remain here?

did you die here In the castle?

donna: I'm back here for The third time this evening.

whatever is in here Must recognize me by now.

Andy: donna had some activity Occur earlier in the night,

So we headed back to try to get

Whatever might have been In there to manifest itself

Under a little bit more Controlled situation.

What message are you Trying to get through

To the living world?

Come through once again. Show everybody what I saw.

See, the thing that bothers me About the light

From the handycam there--

It's the same thing, Like, with orbs.

I mean, if the light hits A dust particle just right,

It's going to be perceived Like that.

Right. Yeah.

[ clanking ]

Did you hear that? Yeah.

Is anybody around here? Anybody do that?

I've got nothing, donna.

Hello?

Donna: we both heard The door handle jiggle,

And we really thought that Somebody was coming through.

There was no one out there Whatsoever.

All right, All team members call out.

Where are you With your locations?

Donna: We called on our walkies

To see where all The team members were.

They were all accounted for. They were nowhere in sight.

Andy: we tried to find out How much force it would take

To open that.

I was throwing my shoulder Into that door

To re-create that same sound.

No way. It was this.

Yeah, that's what we heard.

[ chuckles nervously ]

It answered us.

That was pretty-- I don't want to swear.

Donna: somebody else witnessed What I had seen earlier

In the night with a sound,

And I'm pretty damn happy About it.

Andy: we need to go back,

Review the film from that period That it went down

And check it out that we Actually got something on tape.

Josh: brian and I Went down toward

What was frankenstein's Secret lab

Where he would experiment With unstable nitroglycerine.

if you mess With nitroglycerine

and you blow yourself Out of the tower

And he falls in the trees,

He's like, "He wasn't too badly hurt."

That is a lucky, lucky guy.

Of course, then later He poisoned himself.

Being stupid will catch up With you eventually.

All right. There we are.

I'd like to do A little evp work

Because he did bring dead bodies And stuff in there.

I don't like to get Too in-depth questions.

"Yes" or "No" questions.

'cause, you know, a ghost Doesn't have enough energy

To give you a paragraph.

Sure.

Is there anybody here That would like to speak With us tonight?

Brian has a particularly

Yo [bleep]

Brian won't pander to a ghost.

Watch this. There's one sitting there?

[bleep]

He won't ask a ghost Nice questions.

Come on out, jackass.

Just goes right at it, Guns blazing.

Come on. Let's go.

[ rattling ]

I hate provoking them like this Because I feel like an ass.

It depends on how you react, What kind of spirit it is.

If you got some 90-year-old Old-lady ghost,

You can't sit there and say, "Bitch, show something."

'cause she's gonna fly.

Sure. Sure.

There's no reason to speak To the elderly that way,

Alive or dead.

I was gonna ask During the evp session

If news had reached The spirit world

At how thoroughly I trashed Barry at darts last night.

Robb: okay, guys, Let's call it a night.

My evp session and castle tour With brian

Was an evening highlight.

Going that way.

That was a very nice Investigation.

There's this amazing commonality To almost every culture on earth

That there is a relationship Between cultures

And civilizations,

And the afterlife and another World beyond our own.

And I think for a group Of people to come together,

Take a scientific standpoint And say,

"We're gonna investigate That relationship

"And see if we can make contact With a world

That we can't see and a world That we don't understand,"

I think that's great.

Having josh here tonight Was great.

Besides being so smart And intelligent

And understanding Our methodology

And our protocol of how we go About our investigations,

Which are similar to his, He's just a down-to-earth,

Really fun person to be around.

I hope we get another chance In the future

To work with him again.

Robb: coming into Frankenstein's castle,

Of course there's tons Of legends,

Tons of history, Tons of stories.

I think the investigation Was a complete success.

Having josh here was terrific.

The guy's a real professional,

And I'm really quite happy That josh was able to join us.

Josh: I was excited to come in And meet this group of people

And really observe And, to some extent,

Participate in what they do.

I had a great time doing that.

Walter.

How are you?

It's been a long night, But a terrific investigation.

It's getting pretty late.

andy: we have a lot of data That we have to review.

we're going to go over that,

and, hopefully, we'll have Something that we can show you.

Robb: we're here At possmann's brewery.

This is one of Those things that--

We go to all these Amazing countries.

We don't want to totally Miss out on the culture.

So this is a nice chance for us To take a break,

relax a bit and check out what Seems to be a really neat place.

josh: it might seem like a bit Of a disconnect

to visit a brewery while doing An investigation,

but actually it's not.

exploring the culture Of the places that you go to,

especially when you're outside Of your own culture,

it's really important.

that informs you About the people.

and, again, free booze.

Big tanks.

Wow.

If somebody else is making Apple wine in submarines,

That would be impressive.

okay, now you saw the wine.

donna: Martin was fantastic.

he took the group through The process of how they make

the apple wine and how it's aged In these 100-year-old barrels.

Andy: Donna, what are you doing?

You're gonna empty That whole thing.

It's gonna come pouring out.

I would not do that.

And it was a great lesson.

Martin took the group Through the process

Of how they're bottled.

Very "Laverne and shirley" In here.

It is very "Laverne and shirley" In this room.

Then, ultimately, We ended up in a room

Where we got to taste Some of the product.

So it was great to get out And try something different.

All right, martin. I'd like to make a toast.

I want to thank you For inviting us all

Here to your factory. This is beautiful.

We can't wait To taste the wine.

We had a great time. Your country is wonderful.

And, again, we want to thank you For having us.

So, cheers.

Josh: cheers, martin. Thank you.

Delicious.

Shannon: He just made a hard cider.

I did learn a lesson today--

and that is to never Brush your teeth

before a hard-cider tasting.

josh: barry wants to double-fist That one.

try them all, barry.

well, thank you very much.

we need to get back to work,

but thank you for taking The time and showing us around.

Who's driving?

Not barry fitzgerald.

Thank you.

Nice to meet you.

Good job dispelling the myth About the irish.

[ laughter ]

Josh: we finished the tour,

And I got to taste a little bit Of the apple wine

And the hard cider they make, Which was great.

The company was terrific, And martin was really nice.

It was interesting to see How it's made.

We had a great time.

Brian: Hey, what's up, man?

So, guys, Frankenstein's castle.

You and I had the experience Of seeing the shadow move

Right past that window

That we know that nothing Should have been moving past.

especially when it's a 40-foot Drop on the other side.

would make it tricky.

Shannon and donna, you guys Had an early experience.

It's so interesting Because it happened

At the same location,

Inside the chapel when shannon And I had gone in there

To do our evp session.

I was sitting on one end Of the pier.

She was on the other end.

I thought she had stood up.

And I asked her, "Did you just stand up?"

She said, "No, I didn't stand up."

But I saw a black figure Stand up.

That was the first time.

The second time is when barry, Josh, and I had gone in.

Josh and I were sitting On the front pew,

And out of my peripheral,

I saw a black figure mass Walk directly in back.

I freaked out, And I thought it was you.

Again, it was one of those--

It couldn't be him because It was such a narrow opening.

I would have had to hear pews Being moved.

So we had a bunch Of personal experiences,

But did we get the evidence To match up with it?

how did we do with the dvr setup In the chapel?

Unfortunately, because The chapel was so cold

And it was freezing Outside,

There was moisture condensation On the camera lens.

That's too bad. How'd we do with the evps?

We got more than I thought. Barry's found them.

this first evp was taken In the chapel

with myself, donna, and josh.

I went to the door, Opened the door,

But it's this wave pattern here Which interests me.

[banging]

[speaking indistinctly]

There's definitely Something there.

[speaking indistinctly]

It's not english, That's for sure.

How about you let josh listen, See what he thinks?

Sure.

[speaking indistinctly]

It does sound like speech.

I would concur That if it is speech,

It doesn't sound Like english.

The next one takes place In the top tower

With myself, you, and shannon.

So have a listen.

[whispering indistinctly]

All right. That sounds like a whisper.

[whispering indistinctly]

If it is a voice, Not that happy.

Donna, take a listen.

[whispering indistinctly]

Uh, it's definitely a whisper. It sounds like a male.

The next one Is a little different.

This is the ultrasonic.

You got something With the ultrasonic?

The ultrasonic picked something Up inside the chapel.

No wind, no footsteps...

None of us talking.

Nothing like that.

This particular mike was pointed To the ceiling.

Whatever this was, Was up there

Above where donna and josh Were sitting.

Have a listen to this.

It's not gonna be like anything You've heard.

[static and gargling]

I don't know what that is.

Barry: the ultrasonic picked Something up inside the chapel.

[static and gargling]

I don't know what that is.

all right.

[static and gargling]

it almost sounds digital To me.

[static and gargling]

it sounds sort of like An audio reverberation.

[static and gargling]

Because this evp was captured On the experimental equipment

And we couldn't identify The sound,

I felt that it would be best Not to present this

As evidence to walter.

Do we have anything else?

When I was reviewing The tapes,

we could actually hear When a door was opening

when andy and donna Were in the chapel.

It was pretty neat.

I got it all cued up here, And I'll show you.

Terrific.

[clanking]

Right there.

Oh, my god.

Andy: that is great.

You're both looking, And there you go.

Look at donna go. Faster than me!

It just feels really good To have another witness

sit with me and hear That happening.

[clanking]

did you hear that?

To have The personal experiences,

Then back it up With some evidence,

That's always great. That's what we look for.

Josh, you went Through every step

Of the investigation with us.

Andy and I would really want you To go to the reveal

And show walter the evidence That we collected.

That'd be great.

You two actually Worked together

On the research on this one. How'd it turn out?

I think the big problem With the research

Is that there's just a lot Of holes

In the historical record For this castle.

And really there's almost 400 years of history,

Starting In the 13th century

Until when konrad dipple Is born there.

There's very little Information

About what's happening there At that time.

Then after that, it seems like A lot of the data

Is really more folkloric Than historical.

So, we're ready to go. Brian, if you get that ready.

Thanks a lot. Good job, everybody.

At this point, we're excited To go see walter

And see what he thinks Of the evidence.

We have some evps Of an unknown language.

We're pretty sure It's not english.

So it would be exciting If it was german

And walter can shed some light On it.

Hi, walter.

nice to see you.

Hi. Hi.

Robb: You gave us a tour.

You told us some of the stories You had heard.

We come in and look For alternatives

To the stories Of the paranormal.

We use a range of equipment When we do our investigation--

Emf detectors, flir camera That picks up heat syncs,

Ir cameras, Handheld digital recorders,

To try to document anything

That we might experience Throughout the night.

We did have incredible Personal experiences.

Donna and shannon Were in the chapel

Tape-recording Asking questions.

Donna was sitting In the front pew.

She thought that shannon was Sitting directly behind her

Because she noticed a shadow Standing up.

She turned to ask shannon, "Why are you standing up?"

except that there was No one there.

Andy and I went in to see

If we could figure out What was going on.

We saw a dark shadow move In front of the back window.

That window's 40 or 50 feet In the air.

No one was walking past That window.

This wasn't a tree.

It was like a moving shadow That came up across the windows.

We thought That was interesting

Because you had mentioned The story

Of a ghost being reported On the roof.

But that wasn't the end Of the personal experiences.

Barry, donna, and josh Entered the chapel again.

Barry saw a shadow cross again Behind donna.

Donna caught it out Of the corner of her eye.

Donna and I decided To go back.

We were filming ourselves.

From out of nowhere, We actually heard a sound.

And I'd like to play that For you right now.

[clanking]

Josh: What's cool, walter,

Is that we captured the moment On one of the cameras.

andy: donna and I decided To head back to the chapel.

from out of nowhere, We actually heard a sound.

[clanking]

I know this sound. I heard it myself.

Josh: what's cool, walter,

Is that we captured the moment On one of the cameras.

[clanking]

What's it like seeing it On tape?

It was actually The door handle opening.

I was up in the tower,

so I knew where my team was At the time,

and I could look down at josh And brian.

So we knew there was no one near That area at that time.

It won't rattle by itself.

The wind cannot shake it In its place.

We continued on to try And figure out

What exactly is going on.

So we use our Digital voice recorders.

Sometimes we get voices Or sounds

That we have No explanation for.

We're hoping maybe you would Recognize what it is.

This first large Spike area--

That's going to be The door closing.

What I want you To pay attention to

Is that second area Right there.

[banging]

[speaking indistinctly]

So, what did you hear?

Can you translate it For us?

[speaking indistinctly]

What is the phrase In german?

We had no idea What this said.

What do you feel When you hear this?

Do you definitively think That that's german language?

This next one that we captured Was up in the tower.

It was myself, barry, And shannon.

We're doing a tape recording, But we don't hear any voices

Till we go back And listen to the tape.

[whispering indistinctly]

Is this like a friendly way,

Like you were speaking To a friend

Or someone you were Aggressive with?

But with authority.

The spirit of the alchemist, The boss of this area,

Was frequently seen In that same tower.

you're saying that it's like An invitation

for someone to come to you.

When this was captured Is when barry starts Asking questions.

So it seemed odd that this voice Would appear

And immediately afterwards barry Would begin his questioning.

the bad news, walter, is we Did not find the naked woman.

I know you are.

As a historian yourself,

You can appreciate That what we try and do

Is research some of the legend And some of the stories.

Josh and donna Worked together

And had some Interesting results.

Certainly, walter, you know Better than any of us

The history of this castle. You've written about it.

We went back and really Tried to separate

The historical record here

From the legends And the fairy tales.

This castle has a very rich, Textured, legitimate history,

But there's also So many stories

That really Can't be verified

And don't really appear In historical record

Associated with this place.

I noticed that When you guided us around,

You sort of breathed life Into both the real history

Of this castle and the legends Of the castle.

Prior to this team Coming here,

Did you believe this castle Was haunted?

You walk a fine line, And I can never tell

If you really believe That it's haunted.

do you feel more convinced now That the team has come here?

so, given the personal Experiences, the video,

the audio,

we definitely feel that there is Paranormal activity

taking place here.

Well, walter, thank you so much For your time, the tour.

Your explanation of what was Going on here is incredible.

We'd love to come back again Some time.

thank you, walter.

Walter's reaction to some Of that stuff was huge.

That evp that we got-- We didn't understand it.

It didn't make any sense To us.

But, you know, Look what happened.

I mean, for him to be kind of Totally taken aback,

Dumbfounded, and say, "I know what that is.

"That's old german.

Nobody has spoken that Since 200 a.D.,"

And then for him to say,

"There's no way that you guys Could have known about this."

I felt that he was Really satisfied

With the results That we gave him.

I would agree 100%.

I think he was over the moon. It was a home run for him.

For him to come out and say, "You know what?

You actually changed my mind About this,"

That was a pretty big moment For me.

I think, for him, The work that you guys did

Validated these stories for him In a sense

And maybe turned him Into a believer.

And I have no doubt That in the days

And weeks and years to come,

He'll be telling more stories About castle frankenstein

That involves all of us

And involved the experiences That we had here.

So, to be now a part Of the folklore and history

Of this castle is a thrill.

I think "Destination truth"

And "Ghost hunters: International"

Are cut from the same cloth.

We all come in as skeptics, And josh, you know,

I'm really happy that you were Able to come out with us

And see what we do.

Guys, I was thrilled To be here, for real.

And let's do it again.

My team and your team Are working all over the world,

And, hopefully, our paths Will cross again somewhere,

And we can join forces again.

We'd definitely Love to do it.

That'd be cool.

All right, guys. Well, Andy, josh, good job, guys.

On to the next.