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[intriguing music plays]
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[car door shuts]
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-Hi. Nice to meet you.
-Hi, Lauren. Nice to meet you.
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[Cecilie] Thank you so much
for speaking to me
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because we found you through
the restraining order that you filed,
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so I'm, like, really curious, like,
what was your relationship to Chris?
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So, I was in a romantic relationship
with him, and I was defrauded.
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Yeah.
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I've had some bad relationships before,
but nothing to this magnitude.
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By the end of it, I was terrified because
I have no idea who this person was.
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[tense music plays]
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So how did you guys meet?
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We connected on Instagram.
So that's kind of where it all started.
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-Did he reach out on Instagram or did it--
-Yes. Yeah.
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He had a lot of pictures of him
just being very active,
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and I probably talked to him
maybe two, three months on Instagram.
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He said he was an ex-baseball player
for the LA Dodgers.
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And I was very impressed with that.
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So after two or three months
of just chatting,
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he actually came to visit me,
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because he lived in California,
and I lived in Arizona.
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[quirky music plays]
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[Lauren] The first time I saw him,
I remember thinking he was really tall,
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he was really in shape,
and he dressed well.
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And he just had this charisma about him
where he just carried himself really well.
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We spent the whole weekend together,
and it was great.
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It was exactly
who I was texting and talking to.
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He was attentive.
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He opened the car door for me,
opened the restaurant door for me.
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Just the Southern gentleman that
I really saw myself settling down with.
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After that first trip, he texted me
and asked me to be his girlfriend.
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At the time, I thought
that was just really romantic and sweet.
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I said, "Let's give this a try. Why not?
What's the worst that could happen?"
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[music ends]
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I just immediately just felt like
he was somebody I had been looking for.
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Like, he was just so charismatic,
and persuasive, and intelligent.
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Over the course of three months,
he came to visit me four or five times.
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-Oh, wow!
-Yeah, so he was very persistent.
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[upbeat orchestral music plays]
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[Lauren] I was quite impressed by him.
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He had several years
of being a professional baseball player.
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We had a deep friendship.
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I felt like I had known him for years.
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I definitely felt very happy.
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But the honeymoon stage
didn't last very long.
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[melancholy music plays]
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[Lauren] One day,
when he came to visit me,
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he was complaining
about his accounts being frozen.
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It was frozen due to fraud.
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I've had fraud happen
several times in my life,
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and I've had cards freeze randomly
and didn't think anything of it.
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He would go on and on and complain,
"I don't know what I'm going to do."
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"I've never been in this position."
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"And my rent is past due
because of this account-freezing issue."
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I lent him money.
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It was little by little,
$800 here, $1,200 there.
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At the time, I just thought it was just
a great guy that was down on his luck,
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that was having issues.
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I said, "Once your accounts are unfrozen,
are you able to pay me everything?"
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And he said, "It's not a big deal."
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"I have $160,000 in an account back home
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for a sign-on bonus
from when I was an LA Dodger."
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"Once I get that,
I'll just transfer it to your bank."
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[music ends]
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Eventually, you know, two months in,
I sat there and I started adding it up.
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-[Cecilie] Yeah.
-And I'm like, okay.
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I-- This is not a normal thing.
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And I started pressing him
for, like, a timeline.
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-To give me some type of answer.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
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And it was always defensive,
it was always excuses.
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[foreboding music plays]
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One day, I was in town in LA.
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I figured, why don't I just go say hi?
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[police sirens blaring in distance]
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The area was unsafe,
like, car alarms going on.
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[car alarms sounding]
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[Lauren] I walked up to his apartment,
and he had several deadbolts,
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which I feel like it's not standard.
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He opened the door, immediately walked in,
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dead bolted the door, looked around.
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My stomach was turning.
It was just like, there's something wrong.
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I started kind of asking him about that,
and his responses were just,
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"Oh, I'm always traveling."
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He asked me to spend the night, I refused.
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Who is this person that I'm dating?
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If he's so successful,
then it's not adding up.
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And I'm starting to panic.
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[tense music plays]
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[Lauren] The next thing I know,
my card was maxed out.
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I called the bank immediately.
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I found out that Chris had taken
tens of thousands of dollars.
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When he would come and visit,
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I believe he was using my laptop
when I wasn't around,
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and he was logging on to my online banking
and requesting cash advances.
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And as soon as the cash advances
were available in my account,
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he was transferring them to his account.
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I started getting extremely angry with him
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and started asking him a lot of questions,
and that's when he lost it.
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That's when Chris started becoming
extremely irate and angry with me.
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He started threatening me. He said,
"I know where you live, where you work."
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"Things will be so bad for you.
They'll be so terrible."
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-Yeah, I know.
-What?
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I know, it's wild.
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It escalated
in a very short period of time.
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[ominous music plays]
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[Lauren] Chris was not
who I thought he was.
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He was not the person
that I was falling in love with.
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He kept saying,
"Things are going to be so bad for you."
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He was threatening my livelihood.
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He knew where I lived.
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I moved out of my apartment
because I was terrified.
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At one point, I actually switched cars
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because I didn't know
what he was capable of.
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Chris went from the Southern gentleman
to someone that was terrorizing me,
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that was so scary to the point
of me having to get a restraining order.
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I felt like he would definitely
try to hurt me, absolutely.
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[dramatic music plays]
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[Cecilie] It's horrendous.
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How much money was it?
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I believe over $50,000.
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-A lot of money.
-Yeah.
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So after the restraining order,
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did you ever go to the police
regarding the money that he took?
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-Yes.
-What did they tell you?
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[Lauren] I've contacted
several different police agencies.
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I did a police report trying to explain
everything that happened,
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and they just really dismissed
my whole story.
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I tried for a very long time,
and I just gave up.
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[Cecilie] Would you be willing
to give a statement?
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Yes.
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[curious music plays]
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[Lauren] The impact
that he's had on my life,
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it's been one of the most,
if not the most,
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traumatic experiences that I've ever had.
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I still have PTSD sometimes
when I see people that look like him.
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I kind of flinch.
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It's just… something that will probably be
with me my entire life.
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I just hope he's prosecuted and I hope
someone does something about it.
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[Lindsay] After what Chris did to me,
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I was feeling, like,
really helpless with my life.
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That's when I, like, started…
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really thinking about, like,
what I was gonna do.
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[exhales]
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[sighs] Like, if I hurt myself…
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maybe that would just be easier.
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[unsettling music plays]
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I'm such a strong person.
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I've gone through
so much in my life that, like,
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never did I ever think
about, like, giving up.
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[intriguing music plays]
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[music intensifies]
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-[Cecilie] Hi. Jim? Hi. Nice to meet you.
-Hey. Yeah. How you doing?
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-[Cecilie] Just sit over here?
-Absolutely.
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[Cecilie] Thank you for talking to me,
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'cause we have been looking
into Chris Lloyd.
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And I've heard that you
might have known him back in the day.
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Chris and I met in June of 2012.
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[Cecilie] Okay.
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Um, we were playing for a team in Canada,
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the London Rippers,
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and, uh, Chris and I were teammates
for a month and a half, almost two months.
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He was an outstanding, I mean,
outstanding athlete on the baseball field.
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Very charming to be around.
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[Cecilie] Yeah, I've seen videos of him.
He looks good.
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The London Rippers
is an independent baseball team.
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The lowest rung from Major League
Baseball, let's just say that.
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He says that he played then
for the Dodgers in the Major League.
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-Do you know anything about that?
-That's not true.
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-Whoa.
-He played probably 20 games with us.
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-Thirteen at bats.
-[Cecilie] Mm.
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[Jim] And that's the only experience
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that I've known him
to have in professional baseball.
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I'm always, you know,
looking at old teammates,
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trying to figure out
what they're doing for work.
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I only know maybe five or six guys
that made it to the big leagues.
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-Out of all the years that I played.
-Whoa.
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Chris has been accused of defrauding
two women out of more than $100,000.
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You know, it's actually baffling to me.
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From what I can remember,
he was just a very likable guy.
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But baseball guys in general,
there's a big ego about them.
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They all have the same goal, right?
To make it to the big leagues.
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All that sacrifice for 20-something years,
and then not reaching the ultimate goal,
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it's pretty…
pretty detrimental for somebody.
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[gentle music plays]
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[Cecilie] We have proven that
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he never played
for any major league baseball.
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He never played for the Dodgers.
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And maybe that's why he was
targeting women outside of LA.
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Even though you felt you failed in life
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and you didn't get the life
that you feel like you deserve,
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it's not okay
to destroy other people's lives.
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Even for Jim, he thought
that Chris was just a friendly guy.
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But this is how they are.
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These fraudsters, they are likable people.
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That's why they're dangerous.
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[tense music plays]
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[Brianne] We know Chris lied about
being a major league baseball player.
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But the way he got money from Lindsay
was through investments.
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First, I need to establish
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whether Chris Lloyd is
a licensed investment broker
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in the state of California.
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If he is, he should be listed
in the FINRA regulatory agency search.
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Let's see if he is.
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[Lindsay] He knew tons about banking,
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money, credit, loans,
just all sorts of financial knowledge.
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Made me feel safe in the investment.
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[Brianne] No results.
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But maybe he was working independently.
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Chris told Lindsay
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that he had investment opportunities
for her through Planet 13.
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They're an established company,
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one of the biggest weed dispensaries
in the US.
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But he told Lindsay her check
would be sent from Landmark Associates.
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So that's who we need to look into.
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When he was supposed to pay me,
I asked, "Where's this check coming from?"
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And he said, "Landmark Associates."
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[Brianne] All right,
so let's call Landmark.
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[sighs] No one's available
to take my call.
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I couldn't find an email address
on their website.
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That doesn't sound right.
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I'll definitely have
to dig a bit deeper with this.
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This is not making sense.
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[dramatic music plays]
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[Brianne] Oh, this is interesting.
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A civil lawsuit filed
by a female plaintiff
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against both Chris Lloyd
and the Landmark Associates.
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The allegation? Fraud.
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[intriguing music plays]
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[Brianne] Hey, Cee, I found a civil suit
of a woman suing Chris for fraud.
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She doesn't wanna be identified,
but her lawyer has agreed to meet with me.
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Scott?
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-Hi, Brianne Joseph, private investigator.
-Scott.
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Nice to meet you.
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My partner, Cecilie, and I
are investigating Christopher Lloyd,
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and, um, I understand you have
a court case open with him.
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Absolutely correct.
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So my client knew Christopher Lloyd.
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-I believe they met on a dating website.
-[Brianne] Okay.
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[Scott] He represented
that he was a broker.
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He could take money,
invest it, and give high returns
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at a business organization
he called Landmark Associates.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's funny you mention Landmark
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because I've been trying
to get in touch with Landmark.
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Do you think it's a legitimate company?
Are they closed? Open?
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What do you know about Landmark?
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Christopher Lloyd is
a bad person in so many ways.
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-[Brianne] Yeah.
-But he can be clever, right?
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You can google Landmark Associates
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and probably find
a "Landmark Associates" business
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in any state.
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I looked at the Landmark Associates
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at the address that he said
there was a Landmark Associates,
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and there just simply wasn't one there.
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My client gave to Christopher
about $50,000 to $60,000
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with the expectation
that he would return some of that money…
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-…with interest as an investment.
-Yeah.
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[Scott] But when he could not
pay my client back,
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he would say, "Your Venmo is not working."
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"Your PayPal is not working."
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-So…
-Okay.
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Before I thought
to reach out to Christopher,
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I wanted to get all the background I could
on him before making initial contact.
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[Brianne] Of course, yeah.
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I sent subpoenas
to Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal.
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What'd you learn from that information?
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[Scott] Between Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal,
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he had received $300,000 just in one year
from multiple female victims.
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That's insane.
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[Scott] Yeah.
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If we can talk to these victims
and perhaps get statements from them,
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that just makes our ability
to present these cases that much stronger.
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Hopefully we can give him
some real consequences.
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Okay. Thank you so much.
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Of course. I hope you get him.
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[Brianne] Thank you.
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-[cell phone ringing]
-[Brianne] Hey, Cecilie.
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Guess how much he has taken
from multiple women thus far.
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Around $300,000
within a year span, approximately.
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This is horrendous.
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[Brianne] Can you imagine how much money
in total this man has taken so far?
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We need to see if we can contact
these women and get their statements.
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[cell phone ringing]
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-[Cecilie] Hi, Rhiannon.
-[Rhiannon] Oh, hi there.
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-[Brianne] Hi, Robin.
-[Robin] Hello.
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I'm investigating Chris Lloyd.
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[Rhiannon] I met Chris
on an online dating app.
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And he was easy to talk to,
and he used to play sports.
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Like, very smart.
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[Robin] We had this good,
healthy relationship.
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He was professional
and had his shit together, basically.
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Yeah.
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[Rhiannon] He really showed concern
about my future,
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like, retirement,
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and started talking about, um,
like, a residual dividend account,
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something that
I would live off the interest.
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You know, he just made it sound so easy.
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[Robin] Everything was in writing,
a legal contract.
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I was completely convinced this was
my boyfriend at this point. You know?
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Yeah, and he looked legitimate.
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He seemed to be legitimate
with what his story was.
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How much did he scam you out of?
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[Robin] Probably $75,000.
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Oh my God. That's a lot of money.
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[Robin] I filed a police report,
but they didn't do anything.
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[Rhiannon] I can't believe
that I gave him $150,000 for investment.
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I went to the police,
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but, you know, there's still kind of
the shock factor, like,
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this happened to me.
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Do you have any idea
where he's living at right now?
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[Robin] No.
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Where do you think he might be?
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-[Rhiannon] I don't know. He's slippery.
-No. Mm. Yeah.
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He's just a snake.
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[Brianne] No one has seen Chris in months.
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But if we can't find him,
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we've got no chance
of the police taking on Lindsay's case.
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[tense music plays]
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[Cecilie] We need the guy
to get justice one way or the other.
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The heartbreak
that he's leaving all these people,
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it's just not right,
and that he can just vanish?
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-[female producer] Are you doing okay?
-No, I'm not.
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This is very draining for me, you know?
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[sobs] It breaks my heart,
you know, all these people
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he's taking everything from.
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I can only imagine
how difficult it is for her to see
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the pain and the hurt that
a lot of these victims are articulating.
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I'm pretty sure it makes her
reminisce on the deceit and the lies
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that she had to witness
and overcome and… and heal from.
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I think that's what makes
Cecilie's role in this so powerful
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because she knows what they're feeling,
she knows what they're going through,
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and she can just
walk them through what's necessary
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to get them on the other side of this
and hopefully get them justice.
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[exhales heavily]
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[music ends]
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[somber music plays]
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[chimes]
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[Cecilie] I have maybe the biggest lead.
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I'm in touch with a woman
who believes she's Chris's latest victim.
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She's still in contact with him,
trying to get her money back.
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-So she's on to him?
-Yeah.
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So maybe we can get her
to lure him to, like, a public park.
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-[Cecilie] Yeah.
-[Brianne] That could work.
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[tense music plays]
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[Brianne] We received information
from one of Chris's latest victims.
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And she has, um, set up an opportunity
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to potentially lure him
into this park for us.
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He thinks he's meeting her in the park,
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but it's really a chance for us
to track him down.
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It's a big moment
because we could potentially follow him,
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figure out where he's living.
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He supposedly currently drives
a black Lexus with red interior.
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So that's gonna be
the primary car that we're looking for.
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We know this guy is very elusive,
he's very shady,
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and he's very unpredictable.
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Lindsay is here to help positively ID him.
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Our local P.I. is gonna help us track him.
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We don't know what direction
he might come from,
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so we're covering all entrances.
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A lot of this is one-shot opportunity.
So we all have to be on our A-game.
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[Cecilie] Awesome.
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[gasps]
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Can anybody see who's in that white car
that slowed down right next to us?
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-Does that look like it's him?
-I don't have a visual, but it's parking.
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[suspenseful music plays]
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That's not Chris.
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Oh, come on.
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[Cecilie] Fifteen minutes.
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That's very close to him.
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So if it's 15 minutes to get here,
he must live reasonably close to here.
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Hi, Bri, are you there?
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Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?
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He's just 15 minutes away.
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-[Cecilie] Oh!
-Oh, that's him. That's him.
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-Oh my God. Just… Right there.
-That's him. That's him right there.
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-Oh my God. Chris is here. Chris is here.
-[Lindsay] He's here in his black car.
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[Brianne] All right, guys, he's here.
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[gasps]
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-[Lindsay] Oh my God. He's here.
-Oh my God.
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[Brianne] He's getting out, guys. Perfect.
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[Cecilie] Fuck.
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[Lindsay] Ooh, now my heart's beating.
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He's moving.
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[gasps] Oh God.
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[foreboding music plays]
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[chimes]
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[chimes]
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[Anita] He's moving.
He's walking towards his car.
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[Brianne] Anita, get ready to follow him.
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[music intensifies]
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Anita, what's your location?
I'm following.
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We're going north
on, uh, State College Boulevard.
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[Brianne] This could be our only shot
at figuring out where this guy lives.
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Stay with him.
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It's gonna be difficult following him.
He's looking around and changing lanes.
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He's making a left.
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I don't wanna go with him
because he's, um…
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I'm gonna go maneuver,
see if I can beat him.
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[Brianne] Get on the other side.
Wait for him.
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[tires screeching]
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-Yeah, he's hauling ass now.
-Haul ass with him.
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[Anita] He's making a right
on Krueger Street, residential.
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Okay, keep your eyes on that.
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Maybe he's going home.
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He's going west on…
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Fuck, he disappeared. Um…
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I can't find him.
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You lost sight of him?
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He's probably in one of these units
with the closed garages.
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He disappeared quick.
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[Brianne] The good news is
that he's still in California,
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and we have his license plate number.
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He can't run forever.
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[gentle music plays]
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[Brianne] We've got a solid case.
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We know he lied about being
a professional baseball player,
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and we know he was never
a registered financial advisor.
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And we have other victims
who can corroborate Lindsay's story.
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Lindsay claims she lost $140,000.
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-Yes.
-Lauren lost over $50,000.
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Rhiannon lost over $150,000.
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I think that's what's important with this.
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It's just showing
that it's not an isolated incident.
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It's time Lindsay presents this
to the authorities.
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[Cecilie] Hi, Lindsay.
I've got some good news.
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We know that you've struggled
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to get the police
to take this case seriously in the past.
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00:26:04,854 --> 00:26:07,774
But I have been in touch
with a district attorney,
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and they've agreed to meet
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and might be able to help
get the police to pick up the case.
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00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:19,995
I am now headed to a very important
and exciting meeting with DA Erin West.
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And she's one of the leading investigators
in romance fraud,
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and she's a deputy district attorney
here in California.
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We're both fraud fighters,
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so I'm actually
very excited myself personally
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to be able to meet her
'cause I kind of look up to her.
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00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:39,389
So I've become a bit giddy, you know,
'cause I'm gonna meet Erin West.
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00:26:39,472 --> 00:26:41,349
I'm so sorry, but she is super cool.
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-[Cecilie] Hi, Lindsay. Good to see you.
-[Lindsay] Hi.
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00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:55,572
-[Cecilie] How are you? I'm good.
-[Lindsay] Good, you? Good.
449
00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:59,993
So what I have here
is actually the documentation.
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So I feel like you can be the one
to actually bring that in.
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00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:07,334
-[Lindsay] Awesome. It's important.
-Because it's kind of… It's your work.
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00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,877
-Yeah, for sure.
-Thank you.
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-[Lindsay] Hello. Hi, how are you?
-[Erin] Hey! Hey.
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-Really nice to see you guys.
-[Lindsay] You too.
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Thank you for meeting.
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Lindsay was defrauded
by Chris Lloyd out of $140,000
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in what we believe was an investment scam.
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It's almost 300 pages from start till end
with evidence of the manipulation.
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00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:35,737
So we know there are so many more victims.
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00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:39,157
I am not…
I am one of like maybe a dozen plus.
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-Right.
-[Lindsay] That's… yeah.
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[Erin] I'm really sorry
this happened to you.
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This is the fake contract.
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00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,041
-[Lindsay] Yeah.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
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[Erin] I've never seen a case like this.
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I have never seen
an in-person romance case like this.
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00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:13,191
And then when you tell me, "Oh,
it happened to her and her and her…"
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00:28:13,274 --> 00:28:14,109
Wow.
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00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,987
-I want this case. This is a great case.
-Yeah? Yeah.
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00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:22,450
I don't like the way you got bounced
around between police departments.
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00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:25,787
But I can also see how something
like this falls between the cracks.
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00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:31,418
We need to, like, dig it out of the cracks
and get it seen
473
00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:34,421
because this is a really important case.
474
00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:37,173
I would charge it
as theft by false pretenses.
475
00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:39,300
-Let's shine some light on this. Let's--
-Yeah.
476
00:28:39,384 --> 00:28:40,468
Let's ask some questions.
477
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,470
Let's figure out where things are
478
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,764
and what it would take
to move things forward.
479
00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:47,934
-This game's not over.
-No, okay. That's good to hear.
480
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:49,894
-Bye.
-[Lindsay] Good to check in with you.
481
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,731
-Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
-'Course. So good to see you.
482
00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:55,483
-So how are you feeling?
-I feel great.
483
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:59,487
I feel like that was, like,
very productive, very helpful.
484
00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:01,781
-Thank you. Honestly.
-[Cecilie] Have a hug.
485
00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:04,284
Thank you so much for everything, always.
486
00:29:04,367 --> 00:29:07,120
-[Cecilie] What a journey. I know.
-Honestly.
487
00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:11,166
[Cecilie] To even get in the room
with a district attorney is rare.
488
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:14,210
And for it to be so encouraging
about the case, it's…
489
00:29:14,294 --> 00:29:17,130
It's a one in a million.
Like, it doesn't happen. It just doesn't.
490
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:19,507
[gentle music plays]
491
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:21,885
I'm done for the day. [chuckles]
492
00:29:26,431 --> 00:29:32,687
Someone like Chris, who's managed
to slip through the cracks somehow,
493
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:36,399
deserves to finally,
you know, pay for what he's done.
494
00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:38,860
He belongs in jail.
495
00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:43,823
And I'm determined to put this behind me
and move on with my life.
496
00:29:44,824 --> 00:29:46,826
[curious music plays]
497
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:13,394
[Brianne] I've seen a lot
as an investigator for 15 years.
498
00:30:14,187 --> 00:30:17,106
A lot of times,
the bad guys don't get caught.
499
00:30:18,107 --> 00:30:20,026
And victims don't get justice.
500
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:27,116
So it is refreshing for me to play a part
in balancing the scales a little bit.
501
00:30:28,993 --> 00:30:34,415
It's important for us to continue
this fight for justice and help people.
502
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:40,588
[Cecilie] We may not stop every scam,
but we can stop the silence.
503
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,799
There's power in speaking up.
504
00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:45,635
[Shareza] You did a really good job.
You should be proud.
505
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:48,471
[officer] It's gone past a civil matter
into a criminal matter.
506
00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:50,056
Oh God!
507
00:30:50,139 --> 00:30:51,850
[sobbing]
508
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:55,311
-[Cecilie] We exposed these fraudsters.
-[Nykki] You've been conning women.
509
00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:58,189
[Cecilie] And shown people
how to hold them accountable.
510
00:30:59,899 --> 00:31:02,902
Do I deserve how you treated me?
Stole from me?
511
00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:04,112
You're going to jail.
512
00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:09,242
[Cecilie] They fucked with the wrong women
this time around.
513
00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:12,662
[women cheering]
514
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,290
[Cecilie] This is just the beginning.
515
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:16,583
-Cheers!
-[Brianne] To justice!
516
00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:17,917
[Cecilie] We can't let scammers
517
00:31:18,001 --> 00:31:20,837
destroy one of the most
beautiful things in life.
518
00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:22,380
Love.
519
00:31:23,339 --> 00:31:25,341
[music ends]
520
00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,427
[uplifting music plays]
521
00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:57,957
[music ends]
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