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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,873 --> 00:00:08,182 Imagine all you know is that you had a brother. 2 00:00:08,269 --> 00:00:10,183 The brother died when he was four months. 3 00:00:10,184 --> 00:00:11,924 You've heard a variety of reasons, 4 00:00:12,055 --> 00:00:15,493 and ultimately that you killed him. 5 00:00:17,539 --> 00:00:19,671 But I just didn't believe it. 6 00:00:19,758 --> 00:00:22,544 There's no way in hell that this child died from being 7 00:00:22,674 --> 00:00:24,676 pushed out of the crib. 8 00:00:24,763 --> 00:00:28,506 But if I didn't do it, who did? 9 00:00:32,206 --> 00:00:33,816 This can happen... 10 00:00:33,903 --> 00:00:35,339 Just like that. 11 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:37,776 So we were going to have to put that crime scene 12 00:00:37,863 --> 00:00:39,474 back together. 13 00:00:39,561 --> 00:00:40,605 Let's crank it up. 14 00:00:40,692 --> 00:00:42,477 Game on. 15 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:46,611 This extraordinary case has come over 25 years 16 00:00:46,698 --> 00:00:48,309 after the death of Matthew Golder. 17 00:00:48,396 --> 00:00:52,095 Do you have a brother named Matthew Stephen Golder? 18 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:54,445 Finally, her day had arrived. 19 00:00:57,274 --> 00:00:59,145 You had this feeling as everything 20 00:00:59,146 --> 00:01:01,626 hangs on a knife edge. 21 00:01:01,757 --> 00:01:04,412 The story you have heard here today 22 00:01:04,499 --> 00:01:09,025 is the story that Kathie Almon today wants you to believe. 23 00:01:10,809 --> 00:01:14,335 Now she's beginning to read this as the cover story. 24 00:01:16,598 --> 00:01:17,836 You're sort of damned if you do, and you're damned 25 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:19,427 if you don't. 26 00:01:19,514 --> 00:01:21,472 And that's up to the judge to determine. 27 00:01:21,559 --> 00:01:25,998 You're not going to be sent away for life in prison. 28 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:28,957 Well, I have spent a life in a prison. 29 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:31,003 What just happened? 30 00:01:32,744 --> 00:01:35,573 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 31 00:01:37,923 --> 00:01:40,622 All my life, I knew there was something 32 00:01:40,709 --> 00:01:43,190 wrong with Matthew's death. 33 00:01:43,277 --> 00:01:47,629 But I was not prepared to learn the truth. 34 00:01:49,631 --> 00:01:52,460 ♪ My blood runs cold ♪ 35 00:02:02,905 --> 00:02:05,777 This was a once-in-a-lifetime case. 36 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:07,997 Tracy had been told that she was 37 00:02:08,084 --> 00:02:09,825 responsible for killing her 38 00:02:09,955 --> 00:02:12,915 four-month-old brother, Matt. 39 00:02:13,045 --> 00:02:15,874 It's kind of an unimaginable sort of trauma 40 00:02:16,005 --> 00:02:19,095 to inflict on a person. 41 00:02:19,182 --> 00:02:21,402 While we were looking at what happened 42 00:02:21,489 --> 00:02:23,665 to Matthew Golder, it kept gnawing at me, 43 00:02:23,795 --> 00:02:25,754 and Dr. Burton as well, 44 00:02:25,841 --> 00:02:29,279 that there was a stone that had not been turned over. 45 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:31,281 There had not been an autopsy. 46 00:02:31,368 --> 00:02:34,850 We had medical records saying that Matthew Golder 47 00:02:34,937 --> 00:02:36,504 died from a fall. 48 00:02:36,591 --> 00:02:40,116 But it was very unclear as to the manner of death. 49 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:45,165 And because of that, the decision was 50 00:02:45,252 --> 00:02:48,472 made to exhume Matt's body. 51 00:02:51,432 --> 00:02:54,043 Exhumations are very rare. 52 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,785 No one, to their knowledge, had ever heard 53 00:02:56,872 --> 00:02:59,004 of an exhumation of a child. 54 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:02,311 And no one had ever heard of an exhumation of a child that 55 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:04,662 had been underground for 25 years. 56 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:07,361 I think the general conclusion was that we were wasting 57 00:03:07,448 --> 00:03:09,711 our time, that there was nothing going to be there 58 00:03:09,841 --> 00:03:11,365 when we opened that casket up. 59 00:03:11,452 --> 00:03:13,017 You don't know what to expect. 60 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:18,850 I've seen bodies that were buried six months earlier 61 00:03:18,937 --> 00:03:20,548 that were nearly skeletonized. 62 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:27,076 Knowing how small this little human body was 63 00:03:27,163 --> 00:03:31,080 and not really knowing how the embalming process might have 64 00:03:31,167 --> 00:03:33,952 taken place, Dr. Burton and I, 65 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:36,868 I don't think either one of us would have been surprised 66 00:03:36,955 --> 00:03:40,176 if the casket was opened, and there was nothing identifiable, 67 00:03:40,263 --> 00:03:43,135 perhaps, other than bones. 68 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:46,008 But if that was the case, we could 69 00:03:46,095 --> 00:03:48,445 argue we tried to see whether there was any 70 00:03:48,532 --> 00:03:49,881 physical evidence still around, 71 00:03:50,012 --> 00:03:52,188 and it wasn't there. 72 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:54,886 But we also said in the unlikely event 73 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:58,759 that Matt's body was still intact, wow. 74 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,371 Boy, that would be some powerful evidence. 75 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:10,424 The day of the exhumation was March 17, 1997. 76 00:04:10,511 --> 00:04:12,774 I remember that day quite vividly. 77 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:24,786 I do remember feeling a bit more somber. 78 00:04:25,656 --> 00:04:30,182 It seemed to me that we were disturbing a sleeping baby. 79 00:04:30,313 --> 00:04:31,619 And that really bothered me. 80 00:04:34,186 --> 00:04:36,972 But like so many things that we don't want to do, 81 00:04:37,059 --> 00:04:38,930 we have to get through it. 82 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:45,763 The setting was very quiet. 83 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:48,853 It was very serene, the way a cemetery should be. 84 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:54,336 I remember Dr. Burton talking 85 00:04:54,337 --> 00:04:56,426 about Matthew, using his name. 86 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:58,863 And that really stuck with me, that there 87 00:04:58,994 --> 00:05:02,302 was a level of compassion about the experience, 88 00:05:02,389 --> 00:05:05,783 and not just looking at what we were doing as exhuming a body, 89 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:07,587 but looking at it as trying to find out the truth 90 00:05:07,611 --> 00:05:09,221 of what happened to Matthew. 91 00:05:11,702 --> 00:05:14,270 When I got to the grave site, the dirt had already 92 00:05:14,401 --> 00:05:16,881 been moved off the vault, so right then, 93 00:05:17,012 --> 00:05:19,406 we knew that at least there had been a vault. 94 00:05:19,493 --> 00:05:22,757 And coincidentally, the grave digger 95 00:05:22,844 --> 00:05:24,909 who put Matthew in the ground was the same grave digger 96 00:05:24,933 --> 00:05:27,152 that dug him back up. 97 00:05:27,239 --> 00:05:29,111 The vault is concrete and contains 98 00:05:29,198 --> 00:05:31,200 the casket on the inside. 99 00:05:31,287 --> 00:05:33,681 There are times in exhumations where 100 00:05:33,811 --> 00:05:36,336 the vault lid is lifted off, and everything's underwater. 101 00:05:36,423 --> 00:05:38,425 And in cases like that, the chances 102 00:05:38,512 --> 00:05:41,863 of finding any remains that can be 103 00:05:41,950 --> 00:05:46,215 subjected to a meaningful examination is almost zero. 104 00:05:46,302 --> 00:05:49,784 But in this particular case, the vault lid was so tightly 105 00:05:49,871 --> 00:05:53,004 sealed, the backhoe had picked up the vault 106 00:05:53,135 --> 00:05:54,441 to separate the seal. 107 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:56,093 It was that tight. 108 00:05:56,094 --> 00:05:58,140 There was some sort of adhesive that 109 00:05:58,270 --> 00:06:00,229 stretched like rubber cement. 110 00:06:00,316 --> 00:06:03,840 It was just this image that has stuck with me. 111 00:06:10,892 --> 00:06:15,549 Once we got to the morgue and the casket was opened, 112 00:06:15,679 --> 00:06:18,420 Dr. Burton's not exaggerating in his report when he said, 113 00:06:18,421 --> 00:06:20,380 we were amazed at what we saw. 114 00:06:23,992 --> 00:06:28,953 I remember Dr. Burton carefully opening the casket... 115 00:06:46,101 --> 00:06:51,889 And remember seeing 116 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:55,023 a little boy 117 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:57,242 completely intact. 118 00:07:03,379 --> 00:07:06,948 He had on a onesie, 119 00:07:07,035 --> 00:07:09,429 and he had a teddy bear. 120 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:17,088 It was an unforgettable, horrible, unimaginable moment. 121 00:07:17,175 --> 00:07:18,481 No matter what your beliefs are, 122 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:21,571 you've got to believe that God preserved 123 00:07:21,702 --> 00:07:24,705 that child until we got there. 124 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:31,189 It absolutely blew us away. It just did. 125 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:34,323 I mean, there was nothing that anyone could have 126 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:37,674 done to prepare us for that. 127 00:07:37,761 --> 00:07:39,197 I was emotional. 128 00:07:39,284 --> 00:07:42,157 Then we got another surprise. 129 00:07:42,244 --> 00:07:46,596 It turns out there was an autopsy performed back in 1971. 130 00:07:46,683 --> 00:07:52,254 We did see a previous saw cut by the pathologist who 131 00:07:52,341 --> 00:07:54,082 performed the first autopsy. 132 00:07:54,169 --> 00:07:56,171 We weren't aware of that at first. 133 00:07:56,258 --> 00:07:58,738 And those records turned out to be difficult to find, 134 00:07:58,739 --> 00:08:02,177 but eventually, they were located. 135 00:08:02,264 --> 00:08:05,354 I heard that they had a coroner, 136 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:06,921 not a medical examiner, 137 00:08:07,051 --> 00:08:08,226 at the time. 138 00:08:08,357 --> 00:08:09,465 He took all those records home. 139 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,621 He just didn't file the records. 140 00:08:11,752 --> 00:08:14,232 He said that it was just an accident. 141 00:08:17,627 --> 00:08:22,850 There was no discussion in the original autopsy report 142 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:25,592 on how it may have happened. 143 00:08:25,679 --> 00:08:27,984 And in particular, there was no manner 144 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:31,467 of death assigned by the pathologist 145 00:08:31,554 --> 00:08:33,251 who performed that autopsy. 146 00:08:33,382 --> 00:08:36,603 Knowing the stakes that were involved in a case like this, 147 00:08:36,733 --> 00:08:39,127 one that had not been initially judged 148 00:08:39,214 --> 00:08:40,694 to be homicide, 149 00:08:40,824 --> 00:08:44,175 I knew that we had to do everything right. 150 00:08:44,262 --> 00:08:47,527 To me, it felt like the case had started right there. 151 00:08:56,013 --> 00:08:58,233 First thing I noticed when Dr. Burton 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,193 did the head X-ray was bilateral fractures on each 153 00:09:02,324 --> 00:09:05,066 side of the child's skull. 154 00:09:05,153 --> 00:09:07,111 And it was a very complex fracture. 155 00:09:07,242 --> 00:09:09,897 It had multiple arms of the fracture 156 00:09:10,027 --> 00:09:11,899 going in different directions. 157 00:09:11,986 --> 00:09:14,554 The skull itself was depressed. 158 00:09:14,684 --> 00:09:17,033 It was pushed in about an 1/8 of an inch or so. 159 00:09:17,034 --> 00:09:21,343 That is highly indicative of an inflicted injury 160 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:24,651 by a larger person. 161 00:09:24,738 --> 00:09:28,219 Part of it looked like a backwards question mark, 162 00:09:28,306 --> 00:09:31,048 2 inches or so across. 163 00:09:31,135 --> 00:09:32,789 What looked like the side of your fist. 164 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:37,097 It's as if he was laying down on a hard surface 165 00:09:37,098 --> 00:09:39,535 and was hit on one side of the head, 166 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:41,581 and then causes fractures to the other side. 167 00:09:41,711 --> 00:09:43,278 But they don't connect, and that's 168 00:09:43,365 --> 00:09:46,411 how they know that they're from a specific type of trauma. 169 00:09:46,498 --> 00:09:48,457 Also, they could see other evidence of abuse 170 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,242 against Matthew. 171 00:09:51,329 --> 00:09:54,463 He had a third degree burn on his instep 172 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:56,117 of one of his little feet. 173 00:09:56,204 --> 00:09:59,294 He had what looked like an old fracture to his clavicle. 174 00:09:59,381 --> 00:10:01,688 He had lots of bruising on his body. 175 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:05,387 He had a bruised penis, 176 00:10:05,474 --> 00:10:07,519 something I can't even imagine. 177 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:12,002 All of those details that, when you start adding 178 00:10:12,089 --> 00:10:15,484 them all up there, it's a mountain. 179 00:10:15,571 --> 00:10:18,269 So all of this information, they felt they had enough 180 00:10:18,356 --> 00:10:20,054 to take it to a grand jury. 181 00:10:24,928 --> 00:10:28,540 At this point, we were asking a group of citizens 182 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:31,979 to bring formal charges against someone based on something 183 00:10:32,109 --> 00:10:36,505 that we believed happened over two decades before. 184 00:10:36,592 --> 00:10:39,639 It was not the normal case. 185 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:42,816 My role was to testify to the grand jury, 186 00:10:42,946 --> 00:10:47,647 to help explain to them why Dr. Burton and I felt 187 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:52,086 the injuries we found in Matthew could not be explained 188 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:55,045 by his two-year-old sister pushing him 189 00:10:55,132 --> 00:10:56,568 or dropping him from a crib. 190 00:10:59,528 --> 00:11:03,227 There were only two people, two adults, who could have been 191 00:11:03,358 --> 00:11:05,839 involved in Matthew's murder. 192 00:11:05,926 --> 00:11:10,233 Either Jan Barry Sandlin or Kathie Almon. 193 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:15,675 And it was clear from the get-go that it was not Kathie. 194 00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:20,854 Remember, Kathie had been out running some errands. 195 00:11:20,941 --> 00:11:23,552 And that just left one possibility. 196 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:25,989 It had to be Jan Barry Sandlin. 197 00:11:39,307 --> 00:11:41,395 The grand jury decided that there was probable cause, 198 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:42,963 sufficient evidence to go forward 199 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:46,053 with the prosecution of Jan Sandlin for the murder 200 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,184 of Matthew Golder. 201 00:11:49,621 --> 00:11:52,972 Jan Sandlin was charged with malice murder, felony murder, 202 00:11:52,973 --> 00:11:56,759 cruelty to children, and aggravated assault. 203 00:11:56,846 --> 00:12:00,284 And at the time, Mr. Sandlin was in prison in Florida, 204 00:12:00,415 --> 00:12:02,983 and so he was brought up to Georgia for trial. 205 00:12:06,029 --> 00:12:08,466 Finally, somebody's listening 206 00:12:08,553 --> 00:12:10,860 to what I have to say. 207 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:13,515 And it... you know, it means something. 208 00:12:16,997 --> 00:12:19,782 Child abuse cases, they are very 209 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:22,089 different than any other kind of case, 210 00:12:22,176 --> 00:12:25,875 because your first hurdle is proving there was abuse. 211 00:12:25,962 --> 00:12:29,270 Dr. Burton was clear that this child died from abuse 212 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,142 and torture prior to the abuse. 213 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,669 The fractures we observed in his head 214 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,935 were not accidental, 215 00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:45,068 were not from a fall from the crib. 216 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:47,244 They had been inflicted by another individual. 217 00:12:47,331 --> 00:12:53,207 And this would meet the manner of death known as homicide. 218 00:12:53,294 --> 00:12:55,426 So when we changed the death certificate 219 00:12:55,513 --> 00:12:58,646 from accident to homicide, that really was 220 00:12:58,647 --> 00:12:59,909 the turn of the case. 221 00:13:05,045 --> 00:13:07,438 We knew that one of the things we wanted 222 00:13:07,525 --> 00:13:10,702 to impress upon the jury was how quickly 223 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,487 this crime could be committed. 224 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,668 It can be very difficult to have a baby 225 00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:23,237 at home who can't speak. 226 00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:25,500 They're crying, they're upset, 227 00:13:25,587 --> 00:13:29,156 and you just want them to be quiet. 228 00:13:29,243 --> 00:13:32,289 And new parents have no idea what's bothering them. 229 00:13:34,552 --> 00:13:37,947 It doesn't take much for someone to lose it. 230 00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:39,644 This can happen... 231 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:41,081 Just like that. 232 00:13:43,735 --> 00:13:47,739 And he had every reason to do that. 233 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:53,093 Jan Barry Sandlin wasn't real jazzed up 234 00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:56,270 about being left at home with this four-month-old 235 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,272 that wasn't his. 236 00:14:00,274 --> 00:14:03,016 Matthew was not Jan's child. 237 00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:05,583 He was Ted Golder's child. 238 00:14:05,714 --> 00:14:10,413 When Kathie was pregnant with me, she married Ted Golder. 239 00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:15,593 Ted was drafted into Vietnam, and she was seeing Jan, 240 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,813 you know, the whole time. 241 00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:22,122 When Ted came home, Jan was married to Nancy Tegeder. 242 00:14:22,209 --> 00:14:25,734 And so Kathie was trying to work things out with Ted, 243 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:28,998 and that's where Matthew occurred. 244 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,047 We believe, given the nature of the injuries, 245 00:14:34,134 --> 00:14:37,311 Jan Barry Sandlin decided, just like that, 246 00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:39,879 that he was going to shut him up. 247 00:14:42,620 --> 00:14:46,059 Matt died from blunt force trauma. 248 00:14:46,146 --> 00:14:49,192 I never really wavered in the idea 249 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:51,170 that Jan Barry Sandlin had killed Matthew Golder. 250 00:14:51,194 --> 00:14:53,327 And so what I was always focused on 251 00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:55,633 was whether the evidence supported that. 252 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,377 And I didn't have any evidence that didn't support that. 253 00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:06,818 You had a four-month-old who couldn't speak for himself. 254 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:09,604 You had a two-year-old who literally 255 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:14,043 choreographed the case getting to the DA's office. 256 00:15:14,174 --> 00:15:16,611 You had a mother who had maintained 257 00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:18,308 that it was an accident. 258 00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:20,702 And you had a defendant who didn't have to say a word. 259 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:24,140 So we were going to have to put that crime scene back together 260 00:15:24,227 --> 00:15:28,231 and explain to them why there was only one person who 261 00:15:28,362 --> 00:15:30,189 could have committed the offense, 262 00:15:30,190 --> 00:15:33,497 and it was Jan Barry Sandlin. 263 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,760 Unfortunately, Judge Fuller did 264 00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:39,286 not allow us to introduce the other injuries 265 00:15:39,416 --> 00:15:41,288 on Matthew's body. 266 00:15:41,418 --> 00:15:44,030 As I recall, we didn't have any evidence 267 00:15:44,117 --> 00:15:46,162 to unequivocally suggest that Jan was 268 00:15:46,249 --> 00:15:47,903 responsible for those injuries to Matthew, 269 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:50,906 so they were inadmissible. 270 00:15:51,037 --> 00:15:54,736 But also, Jan Barry Sandlin was serving a life sentence 271 00:15:54,866 --> 00:15:56,694 in Florida for armed robbery. 272 00:15:56,825 --> 00:16:00,133 That's not what we were allowed to tell the jury. 273 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,962 And there was evidence that Kathie had been physically 274 00:16:03,092 --> 00:16:06,400 and verbally assaulted over a period of years, 275 00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:08,489 but it wasn't admitted. 276 00:16:08,576 --> 00:16:11,622 There's no such thing as a slam dunk in criminal cases. 277 00:16:11,753 --> 00:16:13,276 There just isn't. 278 00:16:13,363 --> 00:16:14,886 And we knew that. 279 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:17,106 At that point, I don't know that they had tried 280 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:20,414 very many cases that dated back this far 281 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:22,677 with very little evidence. 282 00:16:22,764 --> 00:16:24,418 So I was realistic. 283 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:29,205 I was assigned to give the opening statement, 284 00:16:29,292 --> 00:16:32,904 to let the jury know what your theory of the case was 285 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,995 and what you believe the evidence was going to show. 286 00:16:36,082 --> 00:16:39,215 These injuries could not have occurred 287 00:16:39,302 --> 00:16:45,656 but for an intentional and forceful assault. 288 00:16:45,743 --> 00:16:47,658 The theory was simple. 289 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:49,659 Matt Golder was four months old. 290 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,097 He was in a crib. 291 00:16:51,227 --> 00:16:53,402 He was left alone with an adult. 292 00:16:53,403 --> 00:16:56,102 A four-month-old can't jump out of a crib. 293 00:16:56,189 --> 00:16:59,887 A two-year-old can't climb up a crib like Superman. 294 00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:01,629 There's one adult in the room. 295 00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:04,806 There's only one person that could have done this. 296 00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:09,811 Matthew Stephen Golder was killed by that man. 297 00:17:12,118 --> 00:17:15,163 That man's life is going to be placed in your hands. 298 00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:20,343 And it is important for you to know the full story. 299 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:23,825 Corinne Mull was Jan Barry Sandlin's defense attorney. 300 00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,567 She was very comfortable in this particular courtroom. 301 00:17:26,654 --> 00:17:29,874 Corinne was a bulldog, and so we knew that she 302 00:17:29,961 --> 00:17:32,051 was going to be prepared. 303 00:17:32,138 --> 00:17:35,315 That baby did not fall out of that bed, 304 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:37,926 did not get pushed out of that bed. 305 00:17:38,013 --> 00:17:40,842 In her opening statement, she conceded that 306 00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:43,322 the two-year-old throwing him out 307 00:17:43,323 --> 00:17:44,933 of the crib was preposterous. 308 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:49,633 Her defenses were reasonable doubt, somebody else did it. 309 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,549 The story you have heard here today 310 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:57,206 is the story that Kathie Almon today wants you to believe. 311 00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:10,978 Tracyraquel, while she was so important to the prosecution 312 00:18:11,002 --> 00:18:14,049 of this case, I remember being really nervous 313 00:18:14,136 --> 00:18:15,964 putting her on the stand. 314 00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:18,488 I didn't want to do anything that would 315 00:18:18,575 --> 00:18:21,665 cause her additional trauma. 316 00:18:21,752 --> 00:18:25,756 Tracy, this is somebody who, for her whole life, 317 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:28,759 had fought to get to that point 318 00:18:28,846 --> 00:18:32,198 of trying to bring justice. 319 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:35,591 And so she was, you know, understandably nervous. 320 00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:39,030 It was really hard. 321 00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:40,596 It was difficult to walk into that courtroom 322 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:42,643 for the first time. 323 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:44,993 She didn't feel comfortable being in the same room 324 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:46,647 as Jan Barry Sandlin. 325 00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:49,170 She hadn't seen him since she was probably 10. 326 00:18:49,171 --> 00:18:54,784 And finally, her day had arrived. 327 00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:56,918 Raise your right hand. 328 00:18:57,048 --> 00:19:01,488 I've seen the horrible things that Jan's done. 329 00:19:01,618 --> 00:19:05,709 I know the things that he did to me. 330 00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:13,282 Jan was a young man that thought 331 00:19:13,369 --> 00:19:15,110 he could have anything he wanted, 332 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:16,981 and he drank very heavily. 333 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:18,896 Then Jan got hostile. 334 00:19:21,856 --> 00:19:23,597 We would be settled somewhere, 335 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:25,729 from the time I was a little child, 336 00:19:25,816 --> 00:19:29,168 and he would just show up in the middle of the night, 337 00:19:29,298 --> 00:19:33,214 beat the door down, and beat Kathie up really bad, 338 00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:36,653 and throw us on the street. 339 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:40,440 We spent lots of times just sleeping on a park bench. 340 00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:44,313 ♪ Oh, it's the dead of the night ♪ 341 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,838 Kathie described persistent harassment from Jan. 342 00:19:50,276 --> 00:19:53,279 He would track her down at her job, 343 00:19:53,366 --> 00:19:55,455 so she would have to quit her job 344 00:19:55,542 --> 00:19:58,284 and set up an apartment somewhere else. 345 00:19:58,371 --> 00:20:01,765 ♪ Oh, you can run all you like ♪ 346 00:20:01,852 --> 00:20:03,202 He was possessive. 347 00:20:03,289 --> 00:20:06,292 Jan Sandlin was not a person that 348 00:20:06,379 --> 00:20:10,905 knew how to treat a woman properly, 349 00:20:10,992 --> 00:20:13,777 no matter how old she was. 350 00:20:13,864 --> 00:20:16,737 ♪ I'll give you some room to hide ♪ 351 00:20:20,262 --> 00:20:25,311 The woman was very battered. 352 00:20:25,441 --> 00:20:27,095 He beat her up so bad. 353 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:30,967 Just some of the things that... it's just a horrible thing 354 00:20:30,968 --> 00:20:32,318 for a child to see. 355 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:34,537 And no one should go through that. 356 00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:45,199 Just, you know, him beating her beyond recognition 357 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,942 and raping her and beating her again. 358 00:20:50,597 --> 00:20:53,252 It happened in front of me, yes. 359 00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:02,782 Do you have a brother named Matthew Stephen Golder? 360 00:21:02,783 --> 00:21:03,827 Yes, I do. 361 00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,438 When was he born? 362 00:21:14,142 --> 00:21:16,231 I wasn't prepared. 363 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:19,321 I didn't realize, you know, how much of a witness 364 00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:20,757 I was gonna have to be. 365 00:21:20,844 --> 00:21:24,194 Have you ever spoken to the defendant in this case 366 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:25,595 about what happened to your brother? 367 00:21:25,632 --> 00:21:26,632 Yes, I have. 368 00:21:26,676 --> 00:21:27,764 What was his response? 369 00:21:27,851 --> 00:21:30,158 Ask your mother. 370 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,987 You now believe that your mother 371 00:21:33,074 --> 00:21:39,298 withheld information about the death of Matt Golder, correct? 372 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:40,429 Yes. 373 00:21:43,737 --> 00:21:46,696 During this whole process before the trial, 374 00:21:46,827 --> 00:21:49,220 I ended up having a conversation with Kathie, 375 00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,484 where I recorded the conversation that 376 00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:53,834 was entered into evidence. 377 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:56,663 And the whole purpose was just to get her to say anything. 378 00:21:56,793 --> 00:22:00,187 I didn't expect she would say anything. 379 00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:01,885 But she did. 380 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:06,194 She had said to me that it was easier to say 381 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:07,848 that I was responsible for... 382 00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:11,417 excuse me... for Matt's injuries than it 383 00:22:11,547 --> 00:22:15,203 was to say that the man she loved was 384 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:16,683 and watch him go to jail. 385 00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:21,209 She was backed in a corner. 386 00:22:21,296 --> 00:22:23,951 She said, you just don't understand. 387 00:22:24,038 --> 00:22:25,407 When you're in love with someone that much, 388 00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:27,040 you'll do anything. 389 00:22:27,041 --> 00:22:28,259 We just wanted to start over. 390 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:29,826 We wanted a new life. 391 00:22:29,913 --> 00:22:31,392 You just don't know what it's like when you'll 392 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:34,570 do anything for somebody. 393 00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:38,487 You were astonished that your mother had been content, 394 00:22:38,618 --> 00:22:40,794 as you put it, to let him die in vain 395 00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:44,232 and to let you be offered up as the person 396 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,842 responsible for this. 397 00:22:45,929 --> 00:22:47,322 Yes. 398 00:22:50,543 --> 00:22:54,634 I had also tried calling everybody. 399 00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:56,201 Most people didn't want to talk to me. 400 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,379 But Jan's brother, Butch, he did. 401 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:03,599 He didn't have a problem talking to me. 402 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:05,862 And he said he didn't know the details. 403 00:23:08,125 --> 00:23:10,563 But he thought that they were responsible, 404 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:14,958 and that he felt like they were gonna blame it on me. 405 00:23:15,045 --> 00:23:19,615 ♪ I've got secrets I can't tell ♪ 406 00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,183 He thought that they had planned this. 407 00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:27,623 ♪ Whispers that go through this hell ♪ 408 00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:33,150 Butch showed up at the hospital right 409 00:23:33,237 --> 00:23:37,590 after they arrived at the emergency room with Matthew. 410 00:23:37,677 --> 00:23:39,852 He said, you were sitting on a... 411 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:42,508 like a concrete slab where ambulances pull up. 412 00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:44,161 And they were, you know, a football 413 00:23:44,292 --> 00:23:46,425 field away in the parking lot. 414 00:23:46,555 --> 00:23:49,689 And he felt like he walked up on them 415 00:23:49,776 --> 00:23:52,474 getting their story straight, what they were gonna say. 416 00:23:52,561 --> 00:23:55,172 And he grabbed Jan and said, what... 417 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:58,740 what the... have you done? 418 00:23:58,741 --> 00:24:00,830 You know, what have you done? 419 00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:05,792 Isn't it true that as a mother, 420 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:10,361 you would do almost anything to protect your children? 421 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:11,449 Isn't that true? 422 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:13,147 Yes. 423 00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:16,106 Even if it meant shouldering blame upon yourself. 424 00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:17,891 Isn't that true? - Yes. 425 00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:20,807 You would protect them till your dying day. 426 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,636 I would... yes. 427 00:24:23,723 --> 00:24:25,986 That's what you do when you love someone. 428 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:32,208 Tracyraquel was not a fact witness, per se. 429 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:34,298 She certainly didn't have any memory of what 430 00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:35,690 happened to her baby brother. 431 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:38,433 But Kathie Almon, seemingly knowing 432 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,045 what really had happened, was so important to the prosecution 433 00:24:42,176 --> 00:24:44,004 of this case. 434 00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:46,048 I want to direct your attention, please, ma'am, 435 00:24:46,049 --> 00:24:48,835 to December 27, 1971. 436 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:50,314 OK. 437 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:52,316 I want you to tell the members of the jury, 438 00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:55,580 as best you can remember, what it is you did that day. 439 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:58,453 I took Tracy to the pediatrician. 440 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,063 Where else were you gonna go? 441 00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:01,194 Uh, the laundromat. 442 00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:03,197 I had to wash clothes. 443 00:25:03,327 --> 00:25:04,327 Where was Matt? 444 00:25:04,372 --> 00:25:06,766 Matt was at home with Jan. 445 00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:10,116 As best you could tell as a mom, was he content? 446 00:25:10,117 --> 00:25:13,163 Yes, he laughed out loud for the first time that day. 447 00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:19,779 Kathie always told the story that she went to do laundry 448 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:23,434 and took me with her and left this four-month-old 449 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:25,915 baby with Jan, and that she came 450 00:25:26,046 --> 00:25:27,656 back and found him that way. 451 00:25:27,743 --> 00:25:29,571 When you got back and you parked 452 00:25:29,702 --> 00:25:31,703 in front of the apartment, what did you do? 453 00:25:31,704 --> 00:25:33,182 I took Tracy in, and I sat her in the chair 454 00:25:33,183 --> 00:25:36,056 in the living room. 455 00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:38,406 And Jan was sitting on the couch. 456 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:41,017 And I started in to check on Matt. 457 00:25:41,104 --> 00:25:44,325 And he jumped up in front of the doorway and said, 458 00:25:44,412 --> 00:25:46,718 Matt is fine, he's asleep. 459 00:25:46,719 --> 00:25:48,677 Just get the clothes out of the car. 460 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:49,964 What's the next thing that you 461 00:25:50,026 --> 00:25:51,550 did after you got the laundry? 462 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,682 I walked back up the stairs with it. 463 00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:55,049 Did you see your daughter, Tracy? 464 00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:57,207 - No. - What did you do? 465 00:25:57,294 --> 00:25:59,122 Started frantically running around the house 466 00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:00,732 looking for Tracy. 467 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:03,778 I then found her in Matt's bed. 468 00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:06,869 Matt wasn't in there, and I saw him laying on the floor 469 00:26:06,956 --> 00:26:09,959 next to the chest of drawers. 470 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:11,170 Did you try to wake him up? 471 00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:12,396 Yes. 472 00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:13,397 Did it work? 473 00:26:13,484 --> 00:26:14,921 No. 474 00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:17,750 What, if anything, did Mr. Sandlin do? 475 00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:21,928 He started to grab Tracy up and spank her. 476 00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:24,451 Did you talk with Mr. Sandlin about what 477 00:26:24,452 --> 00:26:26,106 happened to Matt that day? 478 00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:27,498 Yes. 479 00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:28,891 What did he tell you? 480 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:30,632 He told me it was a terrible accident, 481 00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:34,330 and I needed to accept it and get over it. 482 00:26:34,331 --> 00:26:37,247 Did you care for Mr. Sandlin back in 1971? 483 00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:40,207 Yes, I did. 484 00:26:40,294 --> 00:26:42,252 Did you think he had done anything to him? 485 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:44,124 No, I didn't. 486 00:26:44,211 --> 00:26:47,431 ♪ I confess ♪ 487 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:51,347 ♪ It's cruel to be kind ♪ 488 00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:53,655 I suspect on some level, Kathie always knew 489 00:26:53,742 --> 00:26:56,353 that that story didn't make any sense. 490 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,182 ♪ This madness ♪ 491 00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:04,057 ♪ These violent times ♪ 492 00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:07,494 I feel like it wasn't just Matthew that they made 493 00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:10,716 this plan to kill that day. 494 00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:11,934 They did the same to me. 495 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:18,766 ♪ I'm lost in the game ♪ 496 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,204 ♪ Of hatred and shame 497 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:25,556 Why she left that day, it wasn't just to go do laundry. 498 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:27,428 But she also had to take me to the doctor, 499 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:30,953 because I had fallen down two stories of concrete stairs, 500 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,175 supposedly, and was bleeding from both my ears. 501 00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:39,440 Jan Barry Sandlin had assaulted his daughter. 502 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,485 In my opinion, I think their intention 503 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,618 was to get rid of both of us, 504 00:27:43,749 --> 00:27:45,272 just like she said in her comments. 505 00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:47,840 We just wanted to start over. 506 00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:49,798 To me, it's, "You guys were expendable, 507 00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:52,670 so I could be with the man I love." 508 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:55,848 ♪ I'm haunted by the lullabies ♪ 509 00:27:55,978 --> 00:28:01,201 ♪ Haunted by this devil inside ♪ 510 00:28:01,288 --> 00:28:05,466 You know what, it's horrible, and it's shocking. 511 00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:07,294 But it's exactly who she is. 512 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:20,655 Now, Tracy was developmentally advanced. 513 00:28:20,742 --> 00:28:22,612 She was walking when she was nine months old, right? 514 00:28:22,613 --> 00:28:24,354 Right. 515 00:28:24,485 --> 00:28:27,793 And was a caretaker in a sense, wasn't she, of Matt? 516 00:28:27,923 --> 00:28:29,271 She took care of him. - Oh, yeah. 517 00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:31,621 And, you know, she... you called her once 518 00:28:31,622 --> 00:28:32,972 the little mother, didn't you? 519 00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:34,189 Yes. 520 00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:38,760 I was always nurturing, I think. 521 00:28:38,891 --> 00:28:42,459 For me, it's not a hard stretch. 522 00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:45,287 I'm taking care of everyone, including children. 523 00:28:45,288 --> 00:28:49,249 And yet, they blamed me for Matthew's death. 524 00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:55,255 Now she's beginning to read this as the cover story 525 00:28:55,342 --> 00:28:59,738 that her mother engaged in with Jan. 526 00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,261 When you're in a state of shock 527 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:04,917 and you've just lost your child, 528 00:29:05,004 --> 00:29:08,485 it's somehow emotionally easier to accept 529 00:29:08,572 --> 00:29:14,317 an accident than it would be to accept that he was murdered. 530 00:29:14,404 --> 00:29:17,190 You never said, "I believe that 531 00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:18,800 Jan Barry Sandlin did this." 532 00:29:18,887 --> 00:29:20,280 You didn't... - I think I may have. 533 00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:21,716 OK, who to? 534 00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:24,371 I don't recall. 535 00:29:24,458 --> 00:29:28,941 I've had doubts, but I didn't really know what happened. 536 00:29:29,071 --> 00:29:31,247 Kathie was wigged out. 537 00:29:31,334 --> 00:29:35,991 She didn't know whether the jurors would believe her. 538 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:37,950 When we saw the medical reports, 539 00:29:38,037 --> 00:29:40,866 there's no way Tracy could have done that to him. 540 00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,912 And the only person there was Jan. 541 00:29:43,999 --> 00:29:45,913 And he tricked me by making me go 542 00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:48,090 downstairs and get the clothes so he 543 00:29:48,177 --> 00:29:49,396 could put Tracy in the bed. 544 00:29:49,483 --> 00:29:50,919 I am sure of it. 545 00:29:51,006 --> 00:29:55,010 OK, then why, in 1985, didn't you say that? 546 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:58,143 I wasn't sure of it in '85. 547 00:29:58,144 --> 00:30:01,190 Corinne was going to do her best to point out 548 00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:05,107 the inconsistencies in previous statements Kathie had made 549 00:30:05,238 --> 00:30:09,895 and suggest to the jury that she wasn't worthy of belief. 550 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:12,332 Your mother told your daughter 551 00:30:12,419 --> 00:30:16,162 that she threw her baby brother out of the bed. 552 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:19,774 You told her therapist that she stepped on the baby's 553 00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:21,645 skull, Ms. Almon, right? 554 00:30:21,732 --> 00:30:23,082 I don't recall that. 555 00:30:23,212 --> 00:30:24,320 You're sort of damned if you do, and you're damned 556 00:30:24,344 --> 00:30:26,215 if you don't. 557 00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:29,131 If Kathie had said the exact same thing every single time, 558 00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,523 Corinne's defense would be, she's a parrot. 559 00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:32,221 She's a wind-up toy. 560 00:30:32,308 --> 00:30:34,571 It's hard to remember every single conversation 561 00:30:34,702 --> 00:30:36,399 over the last 25 years. 562 00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:38,334 If she said something a little different, ah-ah, 563 00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:40,969 she didn't get it right this time. 564 00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:43,145 She can't be believed. She's not consistent. 565 00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:45,147 Did you ever have any second thoughts about, 566 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,690 why did I have this child in the first place? 567 00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:47,802 Oh, never. 568 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:49,978 My children were everything to me. 569 00:30:50,065 --> 00:30:51,345 Did you ever have a conversation 570 00:30:51,371 --> 00:30:53,677 with Mr. Sandlin about children? 571 00:30:53,764 --> 00:30:55,288 - Yes. - What did he tell you? 572 00:30:55,418 --> 00:30:56,724 He didn't want any children. 573 00:30:58,334 --> 00:31:00,641 I want the truth to come out. 574 00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:03,862 I want to know what happened to my son. 575 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:08,649 I think that Kathie was not there, 576 00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:11,870 but I feel like she was involved. 577 00:31:11,957 --> 00:31:15,525 In my opinion, Kathie and Jan did this together. 578 00:31:15,656 --> 00:31:17,310 Like, this is crazy. 579 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,402 For 15 years, she's carried the burden 580 00:31:22,489 --> 00:31:25,579 that she was responsible for that child's death. 581 00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:28,974 That is a big weight for a child, right? 582 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,107 Kathie was quite emotional. 583 00:31:32,238 --> 00:31:35,806 You know, she was framed as the person 584 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,330 who helped cover things up. 585 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:41,638 She was the enabler of much of Jan's behavior, 586 00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:45,077 and the keeper of secrets. 587 00:31:45,164 --> 00:31:47,948 So in general, Corinne was trying 588 00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:49,689 to raise doubt to demonstrate 589 00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:52,301 the kind of person Kathie was. 590 00:31:52,388 --> 00:31:56,566 The tombstone that was on the grave at the time 591 00:31:56,697 --> 00:32:00,701 of the exhumation says "Mother's Little Angel," 592 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,181 "Rest in peace now." 593 00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:03,573 Yes. 594 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:04,986 That's not the original stone, is it? 595 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,576 No. 596 00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:12,756 For 26 years, the tombstone said "Great grandson of..." 597 00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:15,455 - Right. - "... of Mr. Alman." 598 00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,196 - Right. - Right? 599 00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:21,503 But you felt the need, two days before the body was exhumed, 600 00:32:21,504 --> 00:32:25,247 two days before that whole group of people 601 00:32:25,378 --> 00:32:29,034 ended up at that tomb, to change the tombstone. 602 00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:31,557 Well, I wanted it there for the reburial. 603 00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:34,604 You wanted it there for the exhumation. 604 00:32:34,735 --> 00:32:36,780 I wanted it there for the reburial. 605 00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:38,260 To show everyone, right? 606 00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:40,436 No. 607 00:32:40,523 --> 00:32:44,658 Kathie experienced a lot of trauma in her life. 608 00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:47,574 I don't presume for a minute to put myself 609 00:32:47,704 --> 00:32:49,358 in Kathie Almon's shoes, knowing the abuse 610 00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:51,012 she had been through. 611 00:32:51,099 --> 00:32:53,231 I don't hold Kathie responsible 612 00:32:53,232 --> 00:32:54,842 for Matthew's death, but could she 613 00:32:54,929 --> 00:32:56,800 have done a whole lot more for her daughter? 614 00:32:56,887 --> 00:32:58,411 Yeah. 615 00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:07,028 Tracyraquel was finished with her testimony, 616 00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:09,770 but she was not released for her subpoena. 617 00:33:09,857 --> 00:33:12,555 But I knew that she had young children at home. 618 00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,949 So Judge Fuller granted her permission 619 00:33:15,036 --> 00:33:17,169 to go back to Savannah, because it was 620 00:33:17,256 --> 00:33:19,736 unlikely that she was going to have to testify again. 621 00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:24,132 And the defense attorney would have agreed to that as well. 622 00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:26,482 The judge had said, no one is supposed 623 00:33:26,569 --> 00:33:32,314 to watch any of the trial. 624 00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,534 You're a witness, so sequester yourself. 625 00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:37,667 OK. 626 00:33:37,754 --> 00:33:42,759 The rule of sequestration says that if you are someone who is 627 00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:46,415 on a witness list, you cannot watch any 628 00:33:46,502 --> 00:33:48,417 of the coverage of the case during the time 629 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:49,766 you're under subpoena. 630 00:33:49,853 --> 00:33:51,986 Because this could potentially 631 00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:54,467 affect their testimony. 632 00:33:54,554 --> 00:33:57,644 Made sense. 633 00:33:57,731 --> 00:33:59,863 There were family in the house, and people were in. 634 00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:03,867 And the court was on in another room in the den in the house. 635 00:34:03,954 --> 00:34:07,828 And I walked from the laundry room back into the other room, 636 00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:12,005 and I caught a glimpse of Kathie on the television. 637 00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:13,399 And that was it. 638 00:34:16,793 --> 00:34:20,928 I would call Tracy at the end of each court day just 639 00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:22,036 to let her know what happened. 640 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,583 I called her that night. 641 00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:24,995 I remember I was standing in my kitchen. 642 00:34:25,019 --> 00:34:26,586 And Lee Anne had mentioned, your mom did 643 00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:28,631 great, to which Tracy says... 644 00:34:28,718 --> 00:34:32,722 Yeah, I walked by and saw Kathie, and she was testifying. 645 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:37,074 Not, "Yeah, I sat there, and I had it on record." 646 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:40,382 Yeah, I overheard that as I was walking through. 647 00:34:40,469 --> 00:34:42,602 And so when she told that to Lee Anne... 648 00:34:42,689 --> 00:34:44,124 My heart sunk. 649 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:45,648 That was going to be a problem. 650 00:34:56,572 --> 00:35:01,664 I remember Jeff and I talking with J Tom, our boss. 651 00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:03,623 She let us know. 652 00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:05,470 And it was our duty to let the judge know because it was 653 00:35:05,494 --> 00:35:08,845 a technical violation of the rule of sequestration, 654 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:11,020 that she could not watch any of the trial. 655 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:12,414 That was the rule. 656 00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:16,157 Everyone understood it, we thought. 657 00:35:16,288 --> 00:35:18,899 And I remember the next morning, 658 00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:21,510 we went into the judge's chambers and talked about it. 659 00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:23,294 Then they called back an hour later and said, 660 00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:24,557 OK, we need you in court. 661 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:31,564 I arrived, walked into the courtroom, and no jury, 662 00:35:31,651 --> 00:35:33,870 nobody in the court, just the judge, the prosecutors, 663 00:35:33,957 --> 00:35:35,394 the defense, and Jan. 664 00:35:35,481 --> 00:35:37,613 Then the judge asked me if I had seen 665 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,137 anything on the television. 666 00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:42,444 I heard various parts of the Court TV, 667 00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:44,751 what was on Court TV of my mother's testimony. 668 00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,361 When someone breaks a rule, but it doesn't really 669 00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:49,755 have an effect on the outcome of the trial, 670 00:35:49,756 --> 00:35:52,715 that can be harmless. 671 00:35:52,802 --> 00:35:55,588 She had been excused, and no one was going to call her back. 672 00:35:55,675 --> 00:35:57,764 Defense could have said, we withhold 673 00:35:57,851 --> 00:35:59,785 the right to call her at a future date, but they didn't. 674 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:01,810 They excused her. 675 00:36:01,811 --> 00:36:04,901 I have spent my entire life waiting to hear this testimony. 676 00:36:04,988 --> 00:36:08,296 I would have preferred to have heard every word of it. 677 00:36:08,383 --> 00:36:12,735 But I don't think that I have done anything wrong to affect 678 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:14,259 this man's rights. 679 00:36:14,346 --> 00:36:16,565 He has more rights than I have. 680 00:36:16,696 --> 00:36:20,221 You're not going to be sent away for life in prison. 681 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:23,616 Well, I have spent a life in a prison. 682 00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:26,662 You may not agree with that, but I have, to some degree. 683 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,191 This extraordinary case, brought over 25 years 684 00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:35,280 after the death of Matthew Golder, 685 00:36:35,367 --> 00:36:39,284 has drawn extensive media coverage. 686 00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:41,589 And with that attention has come 687 00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:43,853 problems in trial management. 688 00:36:43,984 --> 00:36:46,900 There has been an egregious violation of the witness 689 00:36:46,987 --> 00:36:49,859 sequestration rule, which, in the context of this case, 690 00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:52,079 is irreparable. 691 00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:55,038 I cannot fix it. 692 00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:57,693 The ability to present the best available defense 693 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:02,307 has been destroyed, at least for now, perhaps forever. 694 00:37:02,437 --> 00:37:05,005 The defendant's motion for mistrial is granted. 695 00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:13,143 I was furious. 696 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,277 It was a mistrial over testimony 697 00:37:16,408 --> 00:37:18,540 that had no real basis as to guilt 698 00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:20,019 or innocence of the defendant. 699 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:21,803 I think I was just in shock. 700 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,545 Like, first of all, I didn't see it coming. 701 00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,112 I felt set up. 702 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:28,027 And of course, there's all of these things. 703 00:37:28,028 --> 00:37:30,073 It's humiliation, it's anger. 704 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,772 It's, what just happened? 705 00:37:32,859 --> 00:37:35,382 Like, I didn't do anything. 706 00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:38,256 It just... it just really floored me. 707 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:47,090 The mistrial can be declared in a couple of ways... 708 00:37:47,221 --> 00:37:51,138 one that would allow for a retrial and one that would not. 709 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:55,534 And that's up to the judge to determine. 710 00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:58,276 And of course, if there was no retrial allowed, 711 00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:02,453 then Jan Sandlin would never be held to account 712 00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:03,716 for Matthew's murder. 713 00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:25,041 The very next evening, I got a call from Jan 714 00:38:25,128 --> 00:38:28,131 while he was in the county jail in DeKalb County 715 00:38:28,218 --> 00:38:30,351 on transfer for the trial. 716 00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:34,200 I don't know how he got my phone number, 717 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:36,662 but he called laughing. 718 00:38:39,447 --> 00:38:44,757 He threatened to set me on fire and watch me burn to death. 719 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:50,893 There were a couple of other phone calls. 720 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:55,202 And then the last phone call was a talk show was playing, 721 00:38:55,289 --> 00:38:56,551 and that's all you could hear. 722 00:38:56,638 --> 00:39:00,381 And it was describing a lawn mower that had 723 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:03,340 run over this little girl's legs. 724 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:07,562 And that was the first indirect threat to my children. 725 00:39:15,614 --> 00:39:17,571 Ultimately, Judge Fuller did decide 726 00:39:17,572 --> 00:39:19,226 that if we wanted to retry the case, 727 00:39:19,313 --> 00:39:20,575 that we could do so. 728 00:39:20,662 --> 00:39:22,621 Because there's no prosecutorial misconduct 729 00:39:22,751 --> 00:39:25,580 or intent on the part of the prosecution or the witnesses, 730 00:39:25,711 --> 00:39:27,539 the judge had to let us do it again. 731 00:39:27,626 --> 00:39:30,759 Before we got to that, the decision had to be, are we... 732 00:39:30,846 --> 00:39:33,675 is the DA's office going to try it again? 733 00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:38,158 I came into work to a voicemail message from Tracy... 734 00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:40,029 and I remember it being long... 735 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,380 saying, please don't give up. 736 00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:47,994 After going in and talking about it with J Tom 737 00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:49,995 and looking at each other and realizing, you know, 738 00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:52,738 this doesn't change what happened. 739 00:39:52,825 --> 00:39:55,610 It doesn't change the law, it doesn't change the facts. 740 00:39:55,697 --> 00:39:57,699 And as I told Lee Anne, you know what? 741 00:39:57,786 --> 00:39:59,416 Last time I checked, there's no such thing 742 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,877 as the one free murder rule in Georgia. 743 00:40:01,964 --> 00:40:03,139 Let's crank it up. 744 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:05,446 Game on. 745 00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:07,969 After the mistrial, a real quick turnaround, 746 00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:11,278 they went back to trial again. 747 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,715 We were super charged up. 748 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:15,804 This guy killed a four-month-old. 749 00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:17,240 Let's go. 750 00:40:20,592 --> 00:40:22,507 The atmosphere in the second trial 751 00:40:22,637 --> 00:40:25,553 was probably even more amped up than the first. 752 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,730 You had all the same ingredients and the players 753 00:40:28,817 --> 00:40:31,777 of the first trial, but now you had this feeling as everything 754 00:40:31,864 --> 00:40:34,693 hangs on a knife edge, and a judge who's 755 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:39,915 a little testy and watching the proceedings 756 00:40:40,002 --> 00:40:44,833 like a hawk to make sure things go better this time. 757 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,882 We didn't really change the theory of the case at all. 758 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:53,232 A two-year-old didn't throw this child from a crib. 759 00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:58,847 He was intentionally and forcibly assaulted. 760 00:40:58,934 --> 00:41:01,807 Compared to the first trial, Jeff and I had a comfort 761 00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:03,809 level with the evidence. 762 00:41:03,896 --> 00:41:06,812 And particularly, I remember Dr. Burton 763 00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:08,683 being so critically important. 764 00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:10,685 Do you have an opinion, Dr. Burton, 765 00:41:10,772 --> 00:41:13,340 whether these injuries could have been inflicted by 766 00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:15,908 a two-year-old child throwing the baby out of a crib? 767 00:41:16,038 --> 00:41:18,432 Joe Burton was recognized throughout the country 768 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:22,523 as an expert on crimes against children, particularly child 769 00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:24,003 abuse and child homicides. 770 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,223 This child, Matthew, was 4-plus months old 771 00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:29,399 at the time of its death, probably weighed 772 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,358 at a minimum of 10 pounds. 773 00:41:31,445 --> 00:41:34,317 And it isn't like a 10-pound weight that a two-year-old 774 00:41:34,404 --> 00:41:35,275 would have to pick up. 775 00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:37,843 It's a squirming 10-pound weight. 776 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:41,237 And so to throw it out and cause injuries like this 777 00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:44,327 would be virtually impossible. 778 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:47,809 We had Dr. Burton, in his testimony, 779 00:41:47,896 --> 00:41:50,638 talking about how it was possible 780 00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:54,076 that he could have been killed by someone 781 00:41:54,163 --> 00:41:55,469 smashing the hand down. 782 00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:59,560 If I have Matthew's head on a non-giving surface, 783 00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:02,781 and I were to strike Matthew on the side of the head, 784 00:42:02,868 --> 00:42:05,261 I could break both sides of Matthew's skull, 785 00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:08,917 causing a death in this case. 786 00:42:09,004 --> 00:42:10,963 The defense was going to have a tough time 787 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:14,357 combating with Dr. Burton and fighting the medical evidence. 788 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:16,751 I've never seen complex fractures 789 00:42:16,838 --> 00:42:19,580 bilateral in a child or an infant 790 00:42:19,711 --> 00:42:22,191 outside an automobile wreck or a fall 791 00:42:22,278 --> 00:42:24,150 from significant heights, otherwise. 792 00:42:28,023 --> 00:42:31,505 Tracy's grandmother, Anne, testified to something that 793 00:42:31,636 --> 00:42:34,508 the law calls a "similar transaction," 794 00:42:34,595 --> 00:42:36,858 which is evidence that is allowed to be admitted 795 00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:41,646 because it demonstrates a prior similar event, 796 00:42:41,776 --> 00:42:46,215 which may be relevant to a jury's consideration. 797 00:42:46,346 --> 00:42:50,132 Jan was left alone with Matt. 798 00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:53,005 We went in, and Matt was screaming. 799 00:42:53,092 --> 00:42:56,661 And, uh, Kathie said, what's wrong with the baby? 800 00:42:56,791 --> 00:43:00,534 And he said oh, I was playing with him here on the table. 801 00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:02,580 And he picked up the pepper shaker, 802 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:05,321 and I guess he got it in his eyes. 803 00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:08,237 And so she testified to Matthew 804 00:43:08,324 --> 00:43:11,326 having pepper in his eye that Jan Sandlin 805 00:43:11,327 --> 00:43:13,242 would have put there, 806 00:43:13,329 --> 00:43:15,897 which is certainly an act of abuse. 807 00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:19,726 Again, left alone, doing atrocious things 808 00:43:19,727 --> 00:43:21,990 to a helpless four-month-old. 809 00:43:26,255 --> 00:43:30,302 We were confident, but it was a retrial of a case. 810 00:43:30,303 --> 00:43:35,177 And so I knew that the benefits accrue to all of the parties. 811 00:43:35,264 --> 00:43:40,139 In order to even begin to think that Mr. Sandlin is 812 00:43:40,226 --> 00:43:43,359 guilty, you have to be able to trust and believe 813 00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:45,753 and rely on Kathie Almon. 814 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,321 And I submit to you, you will not be able to do that. 815 00:43:48,408 --> 00:43:52,978 Corinne had a finite number of defenses. 816 00:43:53,065 --> 00:43:55,676 One is reasonable doubt. 817 00:43:55,763 --> 00:43:57,678 That's the go-to. 818 00:43:57,809 --> 00:44:01,290 Ms. Kathie Almon has told a multitude of different stories 819 00:44:01,421 --> 00:44:03,945 as to what has happened in this case. 820 00:44:04,076 --> 00:44:08,602 And so Kathie's testimony became much more important. 821 00:44:08,689 --> 00:44:11,996 In 1985, you didn't say to anybody, 822 00:44:11,997 --> 00:44:14,477 "I know Jan Sandlin did this." 823 00:44:14,564 --> 00:44:15,782 Probably not. 824 00:44:15,783 --> 00:44:19,091 You thought that it was possible 825 00:44:19,221 --> 00:44:23,399 that Tracy had stepped on Matthew's 826 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:26,707 head with her heavy baby shoes, right? 827 00:44:26,838 --> 00:44:28,491 I was trying to make some kind 828 00:44:28,622 --> 00:44:33,061 of a sense out of something that didn't make sense. 829 00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:36,456 But then it was very clear, wasn't it, 830 00:44:36,543 --> 00:44:40,068 that those were the lightest and softest baby shoes 831 00:44:40,155 --> 00:44:42,462 around, wasn't it, Ms. Almon? 832 00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:46,248 I thought they were pretty clunkers back then. 833 00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,208 Isn't it true, Ms. Almon, you told your daughter 834 00:44:49,295 --> 00:44:51,993 that the child died from crib death, 835 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,342 SIDS? 836 00:44:53,429 --> 00:44:55,214 Didn't you? 837 00:44:55,301 --> 00:44:57,869 You've told your daughter he hit his head against the bed. 838 00:44:57,956 --> 00:44:59,498 Isn't that one of the stories you told her? 839 00:44:59,522 --> 00:45:03,004 I told her he may have, or the chest of drawers. 840 00:45:03,091 --> 00:45:05,920 You also told them your daughter threw the baby out 841 00:45:06,051 --> 00:45:07,182 of the bed, correct? 842 00:45:07,269 --> 00:45:08,705 Probably so. 843 00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:11,621 Well, probably, Ms. Almon, or yes? 844 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:17,018 Well, it's hard to remember 25 years' worth of hell. 845 00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:20,542 Kathie was kind of damaged over the years, 846 00:45:20,543 --> 00:45:23,720 and Corrine was very effective at finding weaknesses. 847 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:28,682 And she had a perfect victim to go after. 848 00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:34,557 ♪ Trapped with your old sin ♪ 849 00:45:34,688 --> 00:45:40,302 ♪ You wait with your torment ♪ 850 00:45:42,565 --> 00:45:46,047 Ms. Almon, isn't it, in fact, true 851 00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:49,571 that you wrote Mr. Sandlin in 1988 852 00:45:49,572 --> 00:45:52,837 and expressed frustration 853 00:45:52,967 --> 00:45:55,882 about your son, Jason, bothering you? 854 00:45:55,883 --> 00:45:57,189 - Yes. - OK. 855 00:45:57,319 --> 00:46:00,845 And did you ever tell him, he's bothering me. 856 00:46:00,932 --> 00:46:02,387 I'm going to beat him with a baseball bat? 857 00:46:02,411 --> 00:46:04,152 I don't recall that. 858 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,981 OK, let me show you something and see if that 859 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:09,941 refreshes your recollection. 860 00:46:10,071 --> 00:46:11,116 Ha-ha. 861 00:46:11,203 --> 00:46:14,597 Yes, I did say it in a joking way. 862 00:46:14,728 --> 00:46:17,687 ♪ You've now told ♪ 863 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:22,083 ♪ One too many lies ♪ 864 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:24,390 And then the second part of the defense 865 00:46:24,477 --> 00:46:26,913 was none too subtle. 866 00:46:26,914 --> 00:46:29,003 You've caused your child some harm. 867 00:46:29,134 --> 00:46:31,658 Isn't that why you've always tried 868 00:46:31,745 --> 00:46:33,181 to shift the blame onto Tracy? 869 00:46:33,268 --> 00:46:34,617 No. 870 00:46:34,704 --> 00:46:36,923 It was, one person did it. 871 00:46:36,924 --> 00:46:38,056 It was Kathie Almon. 872 00:46:38,143 --> 00:46:39,578 It was game on. 873 00:46:39,579 --> 00:46:44,540 1997, still trying to blame Tracy. 874 00:46:44,671 --> 00:46:46,368 What makes sense? 875 00:46:46,455 --> 00:46:48,457 She knows what happened. 876 00:46:48,588 --> 00:46:52,374 She's the only one that knows what happened. 877 00:46:52,461 --> 00:46:56,857 Ms. Almon is responsible for the death of the child. 878 00:47:08,173 --> 00:47:09,956 We knew what the facts were. 879 00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:12,003 We knew what the medical evidence was. 880 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:15,354 But were we able to convince the jury? 881 00:47:15,441 --> 00:47:17,269 We, the jury, find the defendant... 882 00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:21,098 My stomach dropped. 883 00:47:21,099 --> 00:47:24,101 I just thought, this is never gonna end. 884 00:47:24,102 --> 00:47:25,494 They weren't a mother and a father. 885 00:47:25,581 --> 00:47:28,628 They were monsters. 886 00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:31,718 What's done is done and can't be undone. 65874

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