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This guy freaking hates kids, tortures them.

There was a little girl I saw being taken.

I always feel like someone's standing right by my bed watching me at night.

I don't tell people about it because I don't want anybody to go crazy.

This is violent, violent.

The person wants to kill somebody.

She was lying in a pool of her own blood and she hadn't been stabbed in the

neck. This is a really rage homicide right here. I heard him say death to

girl.

Disgusting and horrible.

I can feel them here.

There's something from outside that's reaching in for those kids.

It wants the person dead.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people. I saw a winged creature.

I speak to dead people, and they speak to me.

This person feels like a monster.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They are sucking the life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

So how many bodies are we talking? And I know every person, every house, has

secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak.

We never communicate during an investigation.

Until the very end.

I'm not going to like this.

When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break.

Or time to get out. It wants inside the house because it wants to kill you.

So I'm out here in Northfield, Ohio. It's a small town about 30 minutes south

Cleveland.

I got a call from a married couple, Cheryl and Dan, and they sounded

I'm just worried about our kids and us, and I don't want my children to be

afraid to be in any part of this house.

Now, Dan's a wounded vet and kids are involved, so I had to take this case.

I really hope we can help these guys out.

I don't like this.

I feel extremely dizzy, like vertigo, for sure.

This is a female who often feels this way.

There's a sense of panic and anger.

There's a male who wants to, like, hurt people.

Anxiety.

Like panic.

Panic is coming from a female.

The anger, violence coming from a male, a young male.

So Cheryl, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset.

So what the hell's going on?

Our marriage is being affected a lot.

It's breaking us apart. I can't do this anymore.

And I think it's definitely coming after me.

So let's start with some basics. Who all lives in the house?

Well, this is my daughter, Riley, who's now 18.

Okay. That's me.

That's my husband, Dan.

And that is my stepdaughter, Olivia, who's 15.

It's a good picture of you guys. It really is. How long have you guys been

married? Five years.

On the phone, you mentioned your husband is a wounded vet.

Which branch was he in?

In the Navy.

In the Navy, okay.

So Cheryl, do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.

Strange noises, mood swings, apparitions, and now we're getting

physically attacked.

Tell me about the mood swings.

Just out of nowhere, I'll get angry for no reason.

Is that how you are?

I'm normally a very happy person.

I think it's something in this house. It's just, because it comes on out of

nowhere. All of a sudden, I just, rage builds up.

I just am not happy anymore.

Is it maybe you're not happy in the marriage, and that's what it is? No, I

my husband. I adore him, and I feel awful sometimes for the way I am. I try,

like, it's just like something snaps, and I don't know.

I just get these, like, feelings. Like, it's like a tingle, and then by body,

like, something's taking over, and I'm, like, angry.

I'm just scared sometimes.

I can't always say if it's the paranormal or not. Hopefully Amy can let

But I hope it is, because if it's not, then you guys have a bigger problem than

the paranormal, you know? Mm -hmm.

What do you think it's here?

It's evil, whatever it is. So what do you think it wants? It wants to...

harm me and my family and tear us apart, I think. It's trying to destroy my

marriage.

I'm feeling a lot of the anger in here.

Feeling very violent.

I felt like fighting.

There's like a dark cloud around this person.

That's not normal.

And it's really violent.

Like, this is violent, violent. This is bad.

Have they been acting differently? Is this noticeable?

Yeah, very.

In what way? What would they see?

Aggressive behavior, violent outbursts.

Would you say other living might be in danger because of them?

Yes.

The person wants to kill somebody.

So, this is a nice basement.

Yeah, except nobody else but me comes down here by themselves.

Really? Really. So, were they creeped out by it? Yeah. Okay, so what's going

I hear growls. What kind of growls are we talking about?

Like a deep in your chest type of growl.

Have you guys ever had like a rodent and wildlife inspection done to see if

anything's burrowing here or anything like that? No.

Okay.

What else is going on?

When I'm down here, I'll get my hair pulled.

How hard are we talking about your hair getting pulled?

It's a pretty good tug. It's enough for me to feel it.

Okay, what else?

It's a man. He wakes me up, and I see it, and then I usually don't go back to

sleep. Was he staring at you?

Yeah. He's gray in the face.

Are you sure you're not dreaming this? No, I don't get it. It's not paralysis.

Does he look at you or say anything?

No, he's not saying anything, but it's almost as if it's waiting for me to see

him, and then he's gone.

I don't tell people because I don't want anybody to think I'm crazy.

You break my heart.

So we're going to have to fix this one way or another.

All right?

You're not crazy.

What is that?

Oh, my God.

What do you think?

I would have thought that, that it was an alien.

I think that this is a dead person. Felt like a male.

I don't know why he's being all cagey and like dressing up like an alien.

I feel he hates kids.

I think any little kid has been tormented by this dude.

Oh, now I'm getting the chills.

So, Olivia, how old are you now? I'm 15.

15. So when you moved here, you were, like, 10? Yeah.

So Olivia was talking to Shelly, your stepmom. She was telling me about the

paranormal problem here. It seems pretty serious. I mean, do you agree with

that? Yeah.

Like, I can't even get out of my bedroom at night. I won't. It's too scary.

Your stepmom told me that she thinks her personality has changed since she's

been here. Have you noticed that?

Yeah. She's been getting, like...

Mad over little things.

Okay. What about you? What experiences have you had?

I always feel like someone's standing right by my bed watching me at night,

in the morning when it's light out, I'm fine. Is it affecting schoolwork or your

social life with friends?

I'm very tired all the time when I come here.

Sucky for a 15 -year -old to have to deal with this.

Yeah. Okay, anything else?

I've seen shadow figures.

Tell me about one of them.

So I was washing my face in the hallway bathroom, and in the corner of my eye, I

saw a shadow walk towards to my bedroom.

Did it appear like a person, or what did it feel like to you? I thought it was

my dad, but he was outside.

So, Olivia, let me ask you a question. Do you think either Cheryl or your dad

are in danger here?

Yes, more so Cheryl, because of all the things that's been happening to her.

I'm seeing a little boy, like, huddled in a ball, like, crying

on the bed.

And he's here, like, alive.

I don't know if that child is from 30 years ago or if that kid's here now.

He's young, scared.

He's in a ball, like, crying and crying and crying.

And I see, like, from outside, there's, like, an arm reaching through the wall

and grabbing him.

Okay.

I got chills.

I got the chills.

So, Dan, I spoke to your wife earlier, and she said that you guys are really

fighting a lot, and that it's affecting your marriage. Do you agree with that?

Yes. Okay.

She seems to think it's the paranormal, I'm sure.

What's your opinion on that?

Something in the house has changed her.

And you're sure this is not husband and wife?

She's changed for, you know, something's got control over her.

Okay, so let's get into some experiences you've had.

I hear noises all over the house.

So Cheryl told me she was hearing noises as well. What are you hearing?

I'm hearing loud bangs, knocks.

So when you hear a knock, how loud are we talking about? Can you show me?

It's pretty loud. It's... Like that? Yeah.

Okay. Anything else?

I saw a big black mass behind me here by the closet.

Did it just stay there or did it kind of move? What did it do? It appeared when

I was talking with Cheryl.

And within seconds, it vanished into my dresser behind me.

Okay, so it just kind of... I froze with fear.

Okay. Anything else?

When I was sleeping one night, I felt a pressure on the bed.

All right, so what kind of pressure are we talking about?

I woke up out of the blue and feeling a hard pressure, and the bed was sinking

around my waist.

And it was not the dogs, because they were nowhere near me at the time.

How long did it last?

Make you realize something's happening that shouldn't be.

I had a scared the hell out of you, right?

Dead. I don't get sleep.

Nobody gets sleep.

There's something from outside that's reaching in for those kids.

And I'm getting these chills like nobody's in there. So I think they

feel that.

Like, you know, the hair on the back of your neck. It's going down your back.

Those kind of chills.

They might be feeling.

Someone or thing touching them down their back.

So they also may feel like somebody's in the bed with them.

They might feel a hand around their arm.

Are they in any kind of danger?

Yes.

All right, so, Dan, why'd you bring me in here?

Well, this is the dead room.

and I think I may have contributed to some of the activity.

Okay, so what do you mean by that?

I've got ashes here from my uncle and my father.

Okay, so you've got your uncle and your dad.

Let's talk about your dad.

What's the story?

Is this him? Yeah, that's him. He's a great dad.

I think being a Vietnam veteran got the better of him.

Fourteen years ago, he ended up committing suicide.

Okay. Tough war, right? Yeah. We all have family that served.

So, this is your Uncle Ron.

This is my Uncle Ron.

What's the story with Uncle Ron?

Were they brothers?

They were brothers.

Him and my dad had a kind of a fallout a long time ago.

All right, do you have any idea what that dispute was about?

It was some kind of a business relationship.

Okay, so money, probably. Money.

All right, so let me get this straight. Do you think they're here?

We do. You do.

Do you think they're here as protective?

Maybe my dad would be protecting, but I'm not so sure about my uncle.

He was in trouble a lot.

Alcohol and drugs.

Okay. So he had issues.

He has a lot of animosity towards our family.

If they are here, are you blaming yourself for it? Yes.

You can't blame yourself for what other people do in life or after life. That's

not on you.

There's like a male running up towards me.

He runs out. He's yelling.

Something happened.

I don't know what he's running from, though.

I'd put him in his 40s. I mean, I think like he was looking for something. I

don't think he found it. This is something that happened, I think, in the

80s, early 90s.

I'm seeing a guy putting money out, cash, and I'm hearing a woman crying

it. She's got big blonde hair.

I do hear a gun going off. I see cash, and then the woman's crying, and I feel

like somebody died because of this.

I kind of want to say that this guy might have killed himself because of

whole situation.

You know, I don't even know where this guy killed himself, but I feel like he

here, and he's just carrying around this, like, gross negative

energy.

We've done a few cases in Cleveland, and one of my go -to guys is retired

detective Tom Armelli.

Now, he just called me back, and he says he found a brutal case of a 13 -year

-old girl who was murdered less than a mile from Cheryl and Dan's house.

I'm heading over to meet with him now to find out exactly what happened.

So, this homicide, what do we know about the victim?

The victim in this case is a 13 -year -old female named Lori Ewald. At the

that she was killed, she was living in a motel with her mother and her three

brothers. Let's go to the homicide. What happened?

September 15, 1988, Lori arrived home from school around 2 .50 in the

Okay. Her brother arrived home shortly thereafter around 3 .30.

tried the door of their motel room, and it was locked. He knocked on the door,

got no response. He looked in the window, and he could see his sister

the floor of the hotel room naked from the waist down. So he recruited a 16

-year -old neighbor to kick down the door, and when they went inside, they

that Lori had been lying in a pool of her own blood, and she had been stabbed

the neck.

Here's a copy of the death certificate.

Okay. This is a really rage homicide right here. I believe it also says she

sexually assaulted.

All right, did they ever catch the sick bastard that did this? They actually

did. About 10 days later, the police made an arrest and it actually turned

to be the 16 -year -old that kicked in the door to find their body.

All right, so what was his name?

His name was Donald Shedrick.

Okay. He was actually the only guy the police were ever looking at.

He had been paroled a couple months earlier for a similar crime.

You're kidding me.

All right, what's the story with this other case? What happened?

Well, about 18 months earlier, Shedrick was arrested in Warrensville Heights,

which is about seven miles away.

Okay. For attempted murder, kidnapping, and sexual assault of another 13 -year

-old girl who he forced into an abandoned school bus and raped her and

her in the neck with a pair of scissors.

Fortunately, she survived.

Here's an article about that case.

They charged him as an adult in that case, or was he a juvenile?

Well, the reason he got out so early is because he was charged as a juvenile,

spent some time in the Riverview Boys School, and was released about two

before Lori was killed.

Okay, so if they don't let this kid out, Laurie's alive.

Correct. Does this kid cop a plea, or does he go to trial?

He claimed his innocence, but actually there were two trials.

The first trial ended in a hung jury, and the second trial, he was found

and because he was a juvenile, the death penalty was off the table, so he was

sentenced to life in prison.

Okay.

So the homicide's in 88. I assume he's still alive in prison, right?

Well, actually, he would be still in prison, except for the fact that in

he was transferred to a hospital and died, presumably of natural causes.

Really? Okay, so he died kind of young.

41 years old at the time of his death.

Both you and I have seen our share of murdered kids.

Yeah. So at least this guy's off the street, and now he's dead. So it's a

thing. I agree.

The alien -looking dead guy comes into this room a lot.

Any idea why he's projecting himself like this?

It's scary.

This guy freaking hates kids, tortures them, possibly killed them when he was

alive.

A male saying death to little girl.

There was a little girl I saw being taken back in the 80s.

You know, him being dead now would allow him to, you know, prolong the torture.

So would he target any child here? I think the younger, the better.

So Cheryl and Dan tell me they hear strange noises like growling and banging

throughout the house.

But not everything is paranormal.

Sounds like they could have a rodent problem.

I'm heading back to the house to meet a pest control expert who's going to get

the place a once -all.

So, John, the reason I called you out here is my clients live in this home.

They're experiencing a lot of strange stuff.

They're hearing thuds, bangs, knocks, and growling coming from...

The house.

Okay. So I'm thinking maybe there's some kind of wildlife problem.

Absolutely. Raccoons, groundhogs, skunks, I mean, you name it.

All right, so John, do me a favor. Give the house a good once -over and let me

know what you find out. Okay, I will do. Okay, thanks.

I was a homicide detective for more than 20 years, and whenever you work

a case, you've got to follow up on the obvious leads first.

Now, when someone tells me they're hearing growling and thumps, My mind

go straight to the paranormal. I think wildlife.

We'll see if this pest control expert agrees.

Hey, how'd it go? Hey, it went well. I think we discovered that possibly could

be animals.

Okay, so why is that?

Well, the deck is all around the entire back of the home. It hides the

foundation, but it gives some great hiding spaces underneath undetectable.

Okay, did you find anything else in there that might contribute to these

There's a crawl space under this home. Okay. And that crawl space has HVAC

ducting. All right, so if they're messing around on top of that, you're

hear something. It'll be rotting like a drum. Well, they could be mating in

there, Steve. Right. Who knows what they're doing.

Okay, so did you find any droppings or any signs of animal activity?

I did not know. Okay, so we have possibility of animal getting in here.

Yes. But you didn't find any evidence of it.

Not directly, no. Okay, well I appreciate your help. Thanks for helping

You're welcome.

What is it that you're seeing?

There's like this thudding, thudding, thudding.

Footsteps on the roof.

So what exactly is it that's on the roof? It's the dead guy who looks like

alien.

What is he doing up there?

He's like running around on the roof, jumping on it, making a thudding noise.

Is there any particular reason he's doing that?

I think to make people uncomfortable.

Do you have any idea what he wants in general?

He is continuing his pattern of torturing little kids.

And that's what he does.

Oh, God.

So does he ultimately want to kill them?

I think so, yeah.

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So far, I've got clients terrified that something is trying to hurt their kids

and destroy their marriage on a property near the spot where a 13 -year -old

girl was brutally murdered.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I discover a mental health hospital that

be located right near Cheryl and Dan's house.

Turns out, the place has a dark history of neglect and abuse.

I'm heading over to meet a local journalist who knows all about this

Well, Laurie, thanks for helping me out. I appreciate that.

Place? When was it built?

Well, the original land was actually purchased back in 1922.

This is actually a photo of some of the original cottages that were part of

Hawthornden. Okay, so what kind of patients did they have there?

Well, back then they had about 800 patients, and most of those were

schizophrenics, manic -depressive, some people with substance abuse issues, but

no violent or criminally insane.

Okay. All right, so I know things went bad. When did that happen?

Well, you know, right around the 1960s is when things really took a turn. And

1963, the hospital had 2 ,000 patients, and some of them at that time actually

were violent.

And the staffing was very bad at that point. In fact, there were reports that

there was only one attendant per 70 patients and 10 doctors, and none of

doctors had any type of psychiatric training.

Okay, so this place was a mess. They had almost triple the amount of patients

from when it first started and not enough staff to handle it. Correct.

All right, so this sounds like a real bad recipe for disaster. What happens

next? In February of 1969, there were actually two deaths that occurred at the

facility. So at that point, the Summit County prosecutor opened the first of

what would be many investigations and probes into the facility.

In fact, Stevie, here's an article that talks a little bit about the opening of

the probe.

Okay, so how did that go?

Well, after the probe was opened, a lot of calls flooded the prosecutor's office

about suspicious deaths that had occurred at the facility.

All right, so how many suspicious deaths are we talking about?

There were reports of 33 total suspicious deaths, including 10 reported

Okay. And in addition to that, there was also an alleged drug trafficking ring.

All right, so with this big mess, I've got to assume somebody got indicted.

Dave, believe it or not, there were never any charges filed. There were no

criminal charges whatsoever.

And what happened was the Summit County Grand Jury actually picked up the case,

and they said that neglect was not a criminal offense.

All right, so did they ever shut this place down, at least?

Well, complaints continued to roll in all the way through the 1980s. And in

1995, Hawthornden was rolled into another behavioral system. Okay. It

until 2017 that they actually ripped down the original buildings of the

facility. Okay, so this building's not there anymore. Not anymore.

You know, it's hard to imagine 50 years of complaints and it still went on. It's

a long time and it seems like not a lot of oversight.

Saying neglect is not a crime I have a problem with. You know, there is

neglect.

I saw a male. She felt very strong and regal. Then there were seven people,

people, sitting there. Her voice says, murderer.

This was a long time ago.

Someone is beaten and torn.

Someone says, prisoners.

I saw several horrifying things on my walk, but the alien -looking dead man

tormenting a sleeping child concerns me the most.

There were only, I think, like four fingers.

Awkwardly long.

There's really no muscle mass.

Yes, so the alien hand is grabbing this kid.

Yes,

that's what I thought.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other.

and our clients for the first time.

So guys, this is Amy.

She's going to be conducting the reveal from one of your bedrooms so she can

focus on your case and the dead without any distractions.

Amy, I want you to meet Cheryl and Dan.

They're married and live here with Dan's 15 -year -old daughter, Olivia.

Cheryl also has an 18 -year -old daughter, Riley, who just left for

We got called in because these guys think that something here is trying to

up their marriage.

They actually hope that's the case.

Because otherwise, it means they shouldn't be together anymore.

So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, she may have some questions.

If not, she'll tell us about her war.

When I was heading down to the basement, I saw a male run past me

up the stairs.

And he was running to get out because he was afraid of getting caught.

When I finally made it into the basement, I saw a different man, and he

is putting money out on a table, and there's a woman across from him, and

she's crying hysterically.

Obviously, they're very upset about money, very stressed. He's feeling a lot

guilt about the situation.

It had something to do with business.

I got that somehow these three people, this male, this female, and the other

male running out were somehow connected.

And later on, I got that the guy who was in the basement with the woman had

eventually killed himself.

Oh, you guys thinking what I'm thinking?

Again, it's my dad.

Yeah.

Amy, Dan and Cheryl called this the dead room.

The main reason.

They call it that. It's sitting right over there. Those two boxes are urns.

has the remains of Dan's father, Larry, and the other is his Uncle Ron. They

were brothers.

Oh. This is a photo of Dan's Uncle Ron on this side right here.

Do me a favor and describe Uncle Ron to Amy as well.

He was into drugs and alcohol.

Hard -headed.

Well, he's gone.

He definitely moved on.

Now, the situation you described sounds a little bit like what happened between

the two men.

My uncle and my dad had a falling out over business.

And when my father had committed suicide,

we found out after the fact that he was struggling with some money issues.

How did your father do that, if you don't mind me asking?

He wasn't supposed to have any guns in the house where he was at, but he shot

himself in the head.

Yeah, I heard the gunshot when I was walking up the stairs.

Okay.

So this is Dan's father, Larry.

Sounds like the father's still here.

I'm sorry.

I can feel him here.

She's told me he's here. She said she's talked to him. Okay.

Do you have abilities you think of? Oh, I don't know. Some things come to me,

and I tell him things, and I don't know if I'm nuts.

I think you do have abilities. I think you're an empath, which is a difficult

ability to take such an emotional toll.

And I'm the one who made him bring the ashes.

The ashes in this situation have nothing to do with anything. Anything. Okay, so

the ashes are fine. Yeah.

So stop beating yourself up about the ashes.

That's one argument you guys don't have to have anymore.

What else, Amy?

So the next situation I want to talk about is I'm walking down the hall in

first room on the left.

Okay, that's Cheryl's office.

When I went in there, I got a lot of negative energy, feelings of anger.

I felt it was coming from a living person in the room.

I felt like it was possible that this person was acting out aggressively.

I was thinking that people could tell that this individual's demeanor had

changed.

So, Amy, remember when I told you that these guys, their marriage was in

trouble? Yeah.

All right, so it's because Cheryl has changed.

She goes into these rages.

Tell Amy what's been going on with you.

Anger, rage, just mean and aggressive.

I'm not myself at all.

And you guys are at the point where you don't know if you're going to make it

the way things are going.

Yeah.

I don't think that it's that room that's making you that way. But as far as you

acting out in all of this, I think as an empath, it's...

Just because of the environment we're in now, and you guys need to team up

instead of splitting up.

One of the bigger threats is this dead male that I encountered, who to me

looked like an alien.

It turns out that it really was and is this dead male, but he does project

himself in ways that will scare people.

I didn't get a lot about him in life.

I do believe that he may have abducted a child from this area, possibly in the

80s, and he knew her. He was a neighbor.

Definitely a pervert.

I also think that he might have killed children when he was alive.

All right. Well, unfortunately, there's someone who fits your description to a T

that came up in my investigation.

There's a motel about two -thirds of a mile up the road from here.

In 1988, a 13 -year -old named Lori Ewald lived there with her mom and three

her brothers.

So on September 15th of that year, one of her brothers came home from school

saw her through the window lying in a pool of her own blood.

So a 16 -year -old neighbor came over, helped her brother kick down the door,

got inside, and found Lori dead on the floor.

She had been stabbed on the right side of her neck, but she was also sexually

assaulted.

Now, 10 days later, the cops made an arrest.

The person they charged with that murder was the 16 -year -old neighbor that

knocked down that door.

Wow. Okay.

Now, his name was Donald Cedric, and it wasn't his first time having an issue

with the cops.

18 months earlier, he had grabbed another 13 -year -old girl walking home

school, forced her into a park school bus, raped and stabbed her.

Amazingly, she survived.

He was charged as a juvenile.

And that's why he got out so fast, and that's why this girl Lori's dead.

But after the murder, they tried him as an adult, and he ended up with a life

sentence. Now, in 2013, Shedrick got very sick, and he was brought to a

locally and died.

Now, we do know he was 41 years old when he died. I managed to track down a

photo of him.

What he died of, I've made a million phone calls, nobody could tell us, but

died of some kind of disease.

Is it possible this is who you're talking about?

Yes. Yes.

Disgusting and horrible.

Yeah. Now, you said this guy was a big threat here. What does he do?

He's all about creating fear in people.

I don't like aliens and they do scare me, so that's what he was depicting to

So is this guy portraying stuff that makes each individual afraid?

Yeah, whatever, you know, would make that person uncomfortable.

I've seen black masses.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, that's this guy.

I saw him on the roof, and he was jumping around up there and making

steps.

I've heard loud bangs, scuffling, like running really quickly.

I'm in the living room. I definitely do hear, it sounds like shuffling in the

attic or the roof.

Honestly, for me, everything's not paranormal, so I called in.

pest control expert.

He says because of the foundation and how the house is raised, it's very easy

for wildlife to get into the crawl space.

But he didn't find any animal droppings and he didn't find any animals. So at

some point, you might want to call him to take care of that, you know, make

that doesn't happen.

As far as the creep jumping up on the roof, that I got to give to Amy.

What sucks is that I did see that he could interact.

Physically. So touching is possible.

Grabbing is possible.

Somebody getting in bed with you.

I woke up kind of startled, but I was feeling pressure as if somebody was

pressing on each side of my hip.

And I physically felt the bed move underneath me. I was just freaked out.

Cheryl, you got your hip pulled.

More than once, right? That's interesting.

It's not a mean tug, but it's an attention tug.

Then I went into the last room on the left. Which is Olivia's room.

I kept getting the, like, extreme chills in that room.

What I thought was a little boy huddled in the bed, like in a fetal position.

And I couldn't tell if he lived here now or if this was prior.

Previous owners had sons. Could that be what you're seeing?

Oh, yeah. Okay.

He's young, scared. He's getting a ball, like crying and crying and crying.

And I see, like from outside, there's like an arm reaching through the

wall and grabbing him.

So I did have a sketch done of the male reaching through the wall.

What is going on there that's terrifying?

I want to grab the guy.

I want to kill him myself.

I mean, what the does this guy want from these people?

He likes to torture people. He likes to make people scared and uncomfortable.

Definitely children.

He'll focus on the children as much as he can. And I heard him say death to

little girls.

How are you feeling, Cheryl? You seem a little stunned.

Angry. I need him gone.

Like, now.

He's got to go ASAP.

If he wasn't dead now, I think I'd kill him.

Okay, guys, so the good news is we finally know why you guys have been

The bad news is there's a lot more going on here.

Now to answer the big question, can you stay and fight or do you need to cut and

run? For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

So as far as the perverted freak guy, I have a call out to a person

who lives in the area.

He's like...

A badass medium who I think will be able to tackle this guy

with the assistance of a demonologist.

I'm good with that. Yeah.

He needs to go. I would agree.

Get rid of them all together.

Once that's done, a male medium can refer you to an

older female medium who has a background in psychology.

who can come and have a few sessions with your father downstairs so that he

can focus and process out all of this trauma that he's experiencing.

For the last one, I think it would be really great if the entire family can

have a session with him and the medium before he moves on.

So Dan may have a chance to say goodbye to his dad.

Yes.

I think everybody in this family needs that. Yeah.

And then, of course, the last thing is I really want you guys to get marriage

counseling. Peace out.

Peace out.

I feel good about that, and I feel good about getting counseling. I think we'll

be okay.

You know, I like you guys very much, especially as a couple.

Promise me you're going to do this.

Oh, yeah. Therapy thing. Oh, I promise.

No, I don't want to lose her. I want to lose the creep in the house.

I really hope Dan and Cheryl bring in the mediums and demonologists I've

recommended. With their help, they should be able to banish the dead man

move on Dan's father.

Once they do that and seek out marriage counseling, I believe their relationship

will heal and they will live a peaceful and happy life.