1 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:13,610 This guy freaking hates kids, tortures them. 2 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:16,730 There was a little girl I saw being taken. 3 00:00:17,570 --> 00:00:22,390 I always feel like someone's standing right by my bed watching me at night. 4 00:00:22,730 --> 00:00:26,150 I don't tell people about it because I don't want anybody to go crazy. 5 00:00:27,150 --> 00:00:28,910 This is violent, violent. 6 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:30,890 The person wants to kill somebody. 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,780 She was lying in a pool of her own blood and she hadn't been stabbed in the 8 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:41,000 neck. This is a really rage homicide right here. I heard him say death to 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 girl. 10 00:00:42,340 --> 00:00:43,340 Disgusting and horrible. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,520 I can feel them here. 12 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:49,760 There's something from outside that's reaching in for those kids. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,260 It wants the person dead. 14 00:00:53,580 --> 00:00:55,140 My name is Amy Allen. 15 00:00:55,820 --> 00:00:59,000 I see dead people. I saw a winged creature. 16 00:00:59,930 --> 00:01:03,270 I speak to dead people, and they speak to me. 17 00:01:03,970 --> 00:01:05,950 This person feels like a monster. 18 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:09,050 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:12,370 They are sucking the life out of these people. 20 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:14,550 I rely on my partner. 21 00:01:14,810 --> 00:01:17,990 I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 22 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:23,170 So how many bodies are we talking? And I know every person, every house, has 23 00:01:23,170 --> 00:01:27,250 secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. 24 00:01:27,450 --> 00:01:29,290 We never communicate during an investigation. 25 00:01:29,650 --> 00:01:30,890 Until the very end. 26 00:01:31,410 --> 00:01:32,490 I'm not going to like this. 27 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:36,970 When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break. 28 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:41,590 Or time to get out. It wants inside the house because it wants to kill you. 29 00:01:56,430 --> 00:02:00,430 So I'm out here in Northfield, Ohio. It's a small town about 30 minutes south 30 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:01,430 Cleveland. 31 00:02:01,630 --> 00:02:05,650 I got a call from a married couple, Cheryl and Dan, and they sounded 32 00:02:07,150 --> 00:02:11,810 I'm just worried about our kids and us, and I don't want my children to be 33 00:02:11,810 --> 00:02:13,990 afraid to be in any part of this house. 34 00:02:14,810 --> 00:02:18,530 Now, Dan's a wounded vet and kids are involved, so I had to take this case. 35 00:02:19,070 --> 00:02:21,010 I really hope we can help these guys out. 36 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,620 I don't like this. 37 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:44,860 I feel extremely dizzy, like vertigo, for sure. 38 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,820 This is a female who often feels this way. 39 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,120 There's a sense of panic and anger. 40 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,360 There's a male who wants to, like, hurt people. 41 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Anxiety. 42 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:09,020 Like panic. 43 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:11,860 Panic is coming from a female. 44 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,140 The anger, violence coming from a male, a young male. 45 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:32,660 So Cheryl, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset. 46 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,240 So what the hell's going on? 47 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:38,340 Our marriage is being affected a lot. 48 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,360 It's breaking us apart. I can't do this anymore. 49 00:03:43,580 --> 00:03:46,700 And I think it's definitely coming after me. 50 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 So let's start with some basics. Who all lives in the house? 51 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:54,820 Well, this is my daughter, Riley, who's now 18. 52 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,260 Okay. That's me. 53 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,060 That's my husband, Dan. 54 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,180 And that is my stepdaughter, Olivia, who's 15. 55 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:05,850 It's a good picture of you guys. It really is. How long have you guys been 56 00:04:05,850 --> 00:04:06,930 married? Five years. 57 00:04:07,250 --> 00:04:09,630 On the phone, you mentioned your husband is a wounded vet. 58 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:11,410 Which branch was he in? 59 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:12,709 In the Navy. 60 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:13,710 In the Navy, okay. 61 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:16,769 So Cheryl, do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are experiencing. 62 00:04:17,529 --> 00:04:24,270 Strange noises, mood swings, apparitions, and now we're getting 63 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:25,270 physically attacked. 64 00:04:26,130 --> 00:04:27,290 Tell me about the mood swings. 65 00:04:28,090 --> 00:04:30,730 Just out of nowhere, I'll get angry for no reason. 66 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:32,900 Is that how you are? 67 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,000 I'm normally a very happy person. 68 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:39,680 I think it's something in this house. It's just, because it comes on out of 69 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,640 nowhere. All of a sudden, I just, rage builds up. 70 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:44,900 I just am not happy anymore. 71 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,140 Is it maybe you're not happy in the marriage, and that's what it is? No, I 72 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:55,100 my husband. I adore him, and I feel awful sometimes for the way I am. I try, 73 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,300 like, it's just like something snaps, and I don't know. 74 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,280 I just get these, like, feelings. Like, it's like a tingle, and then by body, 75 00:05:05,380 --> 00:05:08,000 like, something's taking over, and I'm, like, angry. 76 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,220 I'm just scared sometimes. 77 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:15,020 I can't always say if it's the paranormal or not. Hopefully Amy can let 78 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,440 But I hope it is, because if it's not, then you guys have a bigger problem than 79 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,480 the paranormal, you know? Mm -hmm. 80 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,200 What do you think it's here? 81 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,880 It's evil, whatever it is. So what do you think it wants? It wants to... 82 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,140 harm me and my family and tear us apart, I think. It's trying to destroy my 83 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:34,140 marriage. 84 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,980 I'm feeling a lot of the anger in here. 85 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:42,440 Feeling very violent. 86 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,360 I felt like fighting. 87 00:05:47,060 --> 00:05:50,900 There's like a dark cloud around this person. 88 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,380 That's not normal. 89 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:57,540 And it's really violent. 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,340 Like, this is violent, violent. This is bad. 91 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,780 Have they been acting differently? Is this noticeable? 92 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Yeah, very. 93 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,120 In what way? What would they see? 94 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:13,800 Aggressive behavior, violent outbursts. 95 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,580 Would you say other living might be in danger because of them? 96 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:17,840 Yes. 97 00:06:18,620 --> 00:06:20,400 The person wants to kill somebody. 98 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,220 So, this is a nice basement. 99 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,340 Yeah, except nobody else but me comes down here by themselves. 100 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,360 Really? Really. So, were they creeped out by it? Yeah. Okay, so what's going 101 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:40,600 I hear growls. What kind of growls are we talking about? 102 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,460 Like a deep in your chest type of growl. 103 00:06:44,220 --> 00:06:48,400 Have you guys ever had like a rodent and wildlife inspection done to see if 104 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,280 anything's burrowing here or anything like that? No. 105 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,720 Okay. 106 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:53,300 What else is going on? 107 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,600 When I'm down here, I'll get my hair pulled. 108 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,360 How hard are we talking about your hair getting pulled? 109 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,520 It's a pretty good tug. It's enough for me to feel it. 110 00:07:03,780 --> 00:07:04,780 Okay, what else? 111 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,560 It's a man. He wakes me up, and I see it, and then I usually don't go back to 112 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,900 sleep. Was he staring at you? 113 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:14,000 Yeah. He's gray in the face. 114 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:17,600 Are you sure you're not dreaming this? No, I don't get it. It's not paralysis. 115 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:19,340 Does he look at you or say anything? 116 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,840 No, he's not saying anything, but it's almost as if it's waiting for me to see 117 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,080 him, and then he's gone. 118 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:33,450 I don't tell people because I don't want anybody to think I'm crazy. 119 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:35,150 You break my heart. 120 00:07:35,870 --> 00:07:38,830 So we're going to have to fix this one way or another. 121 00:07:39,070 --> 00:07:40,070 All right? 122 00:07:40,470 --> 00:07:41,470 You're not crazy. 123 00:07:46,310 --> 00:07:47,310 What is that? 124 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:49,330 Oh, my God. 125 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:50,770 What do you think? 126 00:07:51,370 --> 00:07:53,370 I would have thought that, that it was an alien. 127 00:07:54,010 --> 00:07:56,870 I think that this is a dead person. Felt like a male. 128 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,240 I don't know why he's being all cagey and like dressing up like an alien. 129 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:10,000 I feel he hates kids. 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,780 I think any little kid has been tormented by this dude. 131 00:08:18,860 --> 00:08:21,340 Oh, now I'm getting the chills. 132 00:08:37,470 --> 00:08:39,909 So, Olivia, how old are you now? I'm 15. 133 00:08:40,130 --> 00:08:42,890 15. So when you moved here, you were, like, 10? Yeah. 134 00:08:43,510 --> 00:08:47,470 So Olivia was talking to Shelly, your stepmom. She was telling me about the 135 00:08:47,470 --> 00:08:50,990 paranormal problem here. It seems pretty serious. I mean, do you agree with 136 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:51,990 that? Yeah. 137 00:08:52,110 --> 00:08:57,210 Like, I can't even get out of my bedroom at night. I won't. It's too scary. 138 00:08:57,530 --> 00:09:01,850 Your stepmom told me that she thinks her personality has changed since she's 139 00:09:01,850 --> 00:09:03,170 been here. Have you noticed that? 140 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:05,810 Yeah. She's been getting, like... 141 00:09:06,030 --> 00:09:07,310 Mad over little things. 142 00:09:07,890 --> 00:09:10,770 Okay. What about you? What experiences have you had? 143 00:09:11,050 --> 00:09:15,870 I always feel like someone's standing right by my bed watching me at night, 144 00:09:15,870 --> 00:09:19,690 in the morning when it's light out, I'm fine. Is it affecting schoolwork or your 145 00:09:19,690 --> 00:09:20,790 social life with friends? 146 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:23,330 I'm very tired all the time when I come here. 147 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:25,990 Sucky for a 15 -year -old to have to deal with this. 148 00:09:26,390 --> 00:09:28,090 Yeah. Okay, anything else? 149 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:29,650 I've seen shadow figures. 150 00:09:30,030 --> 00:09:31,110 Tell me about one of them. 151 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,260 So I was washing my face in the hallway bathroom, and in the corner of my eye, I 152 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:39,080 saw a shadow walk towards to my bedroom. 153 00:09:39,420 --> 00:09:43,540 Did it appear like a person, or what did it feel like to you? I thought it was 154 00:09:43,540 --> 00:09:45,160 my dad, but he was outside. 155 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,800 So, Olivia, let me ask you a question. Do you think either Cheryl or your dad 156 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,800 are in danger here? 157 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,740 Yes, more so Cheryl, because of all the things that's been happening to her. 158 00:10:00,460 --> 00:10:07,440 I'm seeing a little boy, like, huddled in a ball, like, crying 159 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,620 on the bed. 160 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,640 And he's here, like, alive. 161 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:19,960 I don't know if that child is from 30 years ago or if that kid's here now. 162 00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:23,240 He's young, scared. 163 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,020 He's in a ball, like, crying and crying and crying. 164 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:34,490 And I see, like, from outside, there's, like, an arm reaching through the wall 165 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:36,370 and grabbing him. 166 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:37,570 Okay. 167 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:41,390 I got chills. 168 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:44,550 I got the chills. 169 00:11:05,390 --> 00:11:09,070 So, Dan, I spoke to your wife earlier, and she said that you guys are really 170 00:11:09,070 --> 00:11:12,530 fighting a lot, and that it's affecting your marriage. Do you agree with that? 171 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:13,730 Yes. Okay. 172 00:11:14,130 --> 00:11:16,290 She seems to think it's the paranormal, I'm sure. 173 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:17,610 What's your opinion on that? 174 00:11:17,830 --> 00:11:20,550 Something in the house has changed her. 175 00:11:20,890 --> 00:11:22,430 And you're sure this is not husband and wife? 176 00:11:23,210 --> 00:11:26,990 She's changed for, you know, something's got control over her. 177 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:29,830 Okay, so let's get into some experiences you've had. 178 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:32,010 I hear noises all over the house. 179 00:11:32,380 --> 00:11:35,260 So Cheryl told me she was hearing noises as well. What are you hearing? 180 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,760 I'm hearing loud bangs, knocks. 181 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:41,180 So when you hear a knock, how loud are we talking about? Can you show me? 182 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:45,660 It's pretty loud. It's... Like that? Yeah. 183 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,660 Okay. Anything else? 184 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,940 I saw a big black mass behind me here by the closet. 185 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Did it just stay there or did it kind of move? What did it do? It appeared when 186 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:58,720 I was talking with Cheryl. 187 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,760 And within seconds, it vanished into my dresser behind me. 188 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,900 Okay, so it just kind of... I froze with fear. 189 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,100 Okay. Anything else? 190 00:12:08,860 --> 00:12:11,880 When I was sleeping one night, I felt a pressure on the bed. 191 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,020 All right, so what kind of pressure are we talking about? 192 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:20,340 I woke up out of the blue and feeling a hard pressure, and the bed was sinking 193 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:21,600 around my waist. 194 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,980 And it was not the dogs, because they were nowhere near me at the time. 195 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:27,660 How long did it last? 196 00:12:29,150 --> 00:12:31,170 Make you realize something's happening that shouldn't be. 197 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:33,250 I had a scared the hell out of you, right? 198 00:12:33,970 --> 00:12:35,210 Dead. I don't get sleep. 199 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:36,650 Nobody gets sleep. 200 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:43,930 There's something from outside that's reaching in for those kids. 201 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:49,130 And I'm getting these chills like nobody's in there. So I think they 202 00:12:49,130 --> 00:12:50,130 feel that. 203 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:54,770 Like, you know, the hair on the back of your neck. It's going down your back. 204 00:12:54,930 --> 00:12:55,930 Those kind of chills. 205 00:12:56,410 --> 00:12:58,010 They might be feeling. 206 00:12:59,699 --> 00:13:04,340 Someone or thing touching them down their back. 207 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,040 So they also may feel like somebody's in the bed with them. 208 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,220 They might feel a hand around their arm. 209 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,100 Are they in any kind of danger? 210 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:16,500 Yes. 211 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,400 All right, so, Dan, why'd you bring me in here? 212 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,180 Well, this is the dead room. 213 00:13:28,540 --> 00:13:31,820 and I think I may have contributed to some of the activity. 214 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:33,740 Okay, so what do you mean by that? 215 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,240 I've got ashes here from my uncle and my father. 216 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:42,880 Okay, so you've got your uncle and your dad. 217 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,340 Let's talk about your dad. 218 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,600 What's the story? 219 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:49,720 Is this him? Yeah, that's him. He's a great dad. 220 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,480 I think being a Vietnam veteran got the better of him. 221 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,220 Fourteen years ago, he ended up committing suicide. 222 00:13:59,190 --> 00:14:03,270 Okay. Tough war, right? Yeah. We all have family that served. 223 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:06,790 So, this is your Uncle Ron. 224 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:07,949 This is my Uncle Ron. 225 00:14:07,950 --> 00:14:08,990 What's the story with Uncle Ron? 226 00:14:09,470 --> 00:14:10,470 Were they brothers? 227 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:11,750 They were brothers. 228 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:16,270 Him and my dad had a kind of a fallout a long time ago. 229 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:18,970 All right, do you have any idea what that dispute was about? 230 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:21,990 It was some kind of a business relationship. 231 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:24,510 Okay, so money, probably. Money. 232 00:14:24,950 --> 00:14:26,850 All right, so let me get this straight. Do you think they're here? 233 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,360 We do. You do. 234 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:30,500 Do you think they're here as protective? 235 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:36,920 Maybe my dad would be protecting, but I'm not so sure about my uncle. 236 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:38,820 He was in trouble a lot. 237 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,340 Alcohol and drugs. 238 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,180 Okay. So he had issues. 239 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,540 He has a lot of animosity towards our family. 240 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,860 If they are here, are you blaming yourself for it? Yes. 241 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,640 You can't blame yourself for what other people do in life or after life. That's 242 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,640 not on you. 243 00:14:58,290 --> 00:15:00,590 There's like a male running up towards me. 244 00:15:01,170 --> 00:15:02,870 He runs out. He's yelling. 245 00:15:03,630 --> 00:15:04,630 Something happened. 246 00:15:05,690 --> 00:15:07,510 I don't know what he's running from, though. 247 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:12,550 I'd put him in his 40s. I mean, I think like he was looking for something. I 248 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:16,810 don't think he found it. This is something that happened, I think, in the 249 00:15:16,810 --> 00:15:18,230 80s, early 90s. 250 00:15:19,790 --> 00:15:25,670 I'm seeing a guy putting money out, cash, and I'm hearing a woman crying 251 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:27,920 it. She's got big blonde hair. 252 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:33,560 I do hear a gun going off. I see cash, and then the woman's crying, and I feel 253 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,260 like somebody died because of this. 254 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,080 I kind of want to say that this guy might have killed himself because of 255 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,080 whole situation. 256 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:47,840 You know, I don't even know where this guy killed himself, but I feel like he 257 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:54,200 here, and he's just carrying around this, like, gross negative 258 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,280 energy. 259 00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:15,590 We've done a few cases in Cleveland, and one of my go -to guys is retired 260 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:16,730 detective Tom Armelli. 261 00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:21,590 Now, he just called me back, and he says he found a brutal case of a 13 -year 262 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:24,510 -old girl who was murdered less than a mile from Cheryl and Dan's house. 263 00:16:25,390 --> 00:16:28,230 I'm heading over to meet with him now to find out exactly what happened. 264 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:38,710 So, this homicide, what do we know about the victim? 265 00:16:39,180 --> 00:16:43,960 The victim in this case is a 13 -year -old female named Lori Ewald. At the 266 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,340 that she was killed, she was living in a motel with her mother and her three 267 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:49,420 brothers. Let's go to the homicide. What happened? 268 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:54,180 September 15, 1988, Lori arrived home from school around 2 .50 in the 269 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,060 Okay. Her brother arrived home shortly thereafter around 3 .30. 270 00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:02,310 tried the door of their motel room, and it was locked. He knocked on the door, 271 00:17:02,410 --> 00:17:05,550 got no response. He looked in the window, and he could see his sister 272 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:10,490 the floor of the hotel room naked from the waist down. So he recruited a 16 273 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:14,369 -year -old neighbor to kick down the door, and when they went inside, they 274 00:17:14,369 --> 00:17:18,329 that Lori had been lying in a pool of her own blood, and she had been stabbed 275 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:19,249 the neck. 276 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:20,890 Here's a copy of the death certificate. 277 00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:27,050 Okay. This is a really rage homicide right here. I believe it also says she 278 00:17:27,050 --> 00:17:28,050 sexually assaulted. 279 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,980 All right, did they ever catch the sick bastard that did this? They actually 280 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:34,240 did. About 10 days later, the police made an arrest and it actually turned 281 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,300 to be the 16 -year -old that kicked in the door to find their body. 282 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:38,660 All right, so what was his name? 283 00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:40,580 His name was Donald Shedrick. 284 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:43,640 Okay. He was actually the only guy the police were ever looking at. 285 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:46,760 He had been paroled a couple months earlier for a similar crime. 286 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,040 You're kidding me. 287 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:50,000 All right, what's the story with this other case? What happened? 288 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,680 Well, about 18 months earlier, Shedrick was arrested in Warrensville Heights, 289 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,960 which is about seven miles away. 290 00:17:56,380 --> 00:18:00,560 Okay. For attempted murder, kidnapping, and sexual assault of another 13 -year 291 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:06,280 -old girl who he forced into an abandoned school bus and raped her and 292 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,480 her in the neck with a pair of scissors. 293 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,040 Fortunately, she survived. 294 00:18:10,020 --> 00:18:11,640 Here's an article about that case. 295 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,720 They charged him as an adult in that case, or was he a juvenile? 296 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,060 Well, the reason he got out so early is because he was charged as a juvenile, 297 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:24,080 spent some time in the Riverview Boys School, and was released about two 298 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,520 before Lori was killed. 299 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:29,310 Okay, so if they don't let this kid out, Laurie's alive. 300 00:18:29,670 --> 00:18:32,870 Correct. Does this kid cop a plea, or does he go to trial? 301 00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:35,850 He claimed his innocence, but actually there were two trials. 302 00:18:36,050 --> 00:18:40,250 The first trial ended in a hung jury, and the second trial, he was found 303 00:18:40,370 --> 00:18:43,730 and because he was a juvenile, the death penalty was off the table, so he was 304 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:44,730 sentenced to life in prison. 305 00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:45,930 Okay. 306 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:49,330 So the homicide's in 88. I assume he's still alive in prison, right? 307 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:53,170 Well, actually, he would be still in prison, except for the fact that in 308 00:18:53,390 --> 00:18:57,350 he was transferred to a hospital and died, presumably of natural causes. 309 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:01,730 Really? Okay, so he died kind of young. 310 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:03,910 41 years old at the time of his death. 311 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:06,450 Both you and I have seen our share of murdered kids. 312 00:19:06,670 --> 00:19:10,450 Yeah. So at least this guy's off the street, and now he's dead. So it's a 313 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:11,450 thing. I agree. 314 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:16,250 The alien -looking dead guy comes into this room a lot. 315 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,520 Any idea why he's projecting himself like this? 316 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,759 It's scary. 317 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,460 This guy freaking hates kids, tortures them, possibly killed them when he was 318 00:19:27,460 --> 00:19:28,460 alive. 319 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:31,940 A male saying death to little girl. 320 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:36,680 There was a little girl I saw being taken back in the 80s. 321 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:42,080 You know, him being dead now would allow him to, you know, prolong the torture. 322 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,760 So would he target any child here? I think the younger, the better. 323 00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:54,090 So Cheryl and Dan tell me they hear strange noises like growling and banging 324 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:55,090 throughout the house. 325 00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:56,430 But not everything is paranormal. 326 00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:58,910 Sounds like they could have a rodent problem. 327 00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:02,750 I'm heading back to the house to meet a pest control expert who's going to get 328 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:03,750 the place a once -all. 329 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:13,610 So, John, the reason I called you out here is my clients live in this home. 330 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:15,530 They're experiencing a lot of strange stuff. 331 00:20:15,730 --> 00:20:19,490 They're hearing thuds, bangs, knocks, and growling coming from... 332 00:20:19,950 --> 00:20:20,669 The house. 333 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:23,810 Okay. So I'm thinking maybe there's some kind of wildlife problem. 334 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:27,050 Absolutely. Raccoons, groundhogs, skunks, I mean, you name it. 335 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:30,310 All right, so John, do me a favor. Give the house a good once -over and let me 336 00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:32,470 know what you find out. Okay, I will do. Okay, thanks. 337 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:40,190 I was a homicide detective for more than 20 years, and whenever you work 338 00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:43,230 a case, you've got to follow up on the obvious leads first. 339 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:48,630 Now, when someone tells me they're hearing growling and thumps, My mind 340 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:50,510 go straight to the paranormal. I think wildlife. 341 00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,250 We'll see if this pest control expert agrees. 342 00:20:56,850 --> 00:21:01,410 Hey, how'd it go? Hey, it went well. I think we discovered that possibly could 343 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:02,410 be animals. 344 00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:03,730 Okay, so why is that? 345 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:07,830 Well, the deck is all around the entire back of the home. It hides the 346 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:11,130 foundation, but it gives some great hiding spaces underneath undetectable. 347 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,380 Okay, did you find anything else in there that might contribute to these 348 00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:18,880 There's a crawl space under this home. Okay. And that crawl space has HVAC 349 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,900 ducting. All right, so if they're messing around on top of that, you're 350 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:24,680 hear something. It'll be rotting like a drum. Well, they could be mating in 351 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,020 there, Steve. Right. Who knows what they're doing. 352 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,240 Okay, so did you find any droppings or any signs of animal activity? 353 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,480 I did not know. Okay, so we have possibility of animal getting in here. 354 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,740 Yes. But you didn't find any evidence of it. 355 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Not directly, no. Okay, well I appreciate your help. Thanks for helping 356 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,760 You're welcome. 357 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,540 What is it that you're seeing? 358 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,820 There's like this thudding, thudding, thudding. 359 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,680 Footsteps on the roof. 360 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:56,120 So what exactly is it that's on the roof? It's the dead guy who looks like 361 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,059 alien. 362 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:58,080 What is he doing up there? 363 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,440 He's like running around on the roof, jumping on it, making a thudding noise. 364 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:05,880 Is there any particular reason he's doing that? 365 00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:08,070 I think to make people uncomfortable. 366 00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:12,490 Do you have any idea what he wants in general? 367 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:17,630 He is continuing his pattern of torturing little kids. 368 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:21,270 And that's what he does. 369 00:22:23,610 --> 00:22:24,610 Oh, God. 370 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:28,310 So does he ultimately want to kill them? 371 00:22:28,570 --> 00:22:29,670 I think so, yeah. 372 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,580 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 373 00:22:40,580 --> 00:22:45,120 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 374 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:45,839 Dead Files. 375 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,340 Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 376 00:22:56,940 --> 00:23:00,580 So far, I've got clients terrified that something is trying to hurt their kids 377 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:04,600 and destroy their marriage on a property near the spot where a 13 -year -old 378 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,780 girl was brutally murdered. 379 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,380 But I want to see if there's anything else. 380 00:23:10,980 --> 00:23:14,420 Searching through old records, I discover a mental health hospital that 381 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:16,600 be located right near Cheryl and Dan's house. 382 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,380 Turns out, the place has a dark history of neglect and abuse. 383 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:25,240 I'm heading over to meet a local journalist who knows all about this 384 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:35,140 Well, Laurie, thanks for helping me out. I appreciate that. 385 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,320 Place? When was it built? 386 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Well, the original land was actually purchased back in 1922. 387 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,640 This is actually a photo of some of the original cottages that were part of 388 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,100 Hawthornden. Okay, so what kind of patients did they have there? 389 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,960 Well, back then they had about 800 patients, and most of those were 390 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,660 schizophrenics, manic -depressive, some people with substance abuse issues, but 391 00:23:56,660 --> 00:23:58,180 no violent or criminally insane. 392 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:01,500 Okay. All right, so I know things went bad. When did that happen? 393 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:05,830 Well, you know, right around the 1960s is when things really took a turn. And 394 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:10,930 1963, the hospital had 2 ,000 patients, and some of them at that time actually 395 00:24:10,930 --> 00:24:11,829 were violent. 396 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:16,090 And the staffing was very bad at that point. In fact, there were reports that 397 00:24:16,090 --> 00:24:21,010 there was only one attendant per 70 patients and 10 doctors, and none of 398 00:24:21,010 --> 00:24:23,010 doctors had any type of psychiatric training. 399 00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:26,390 Okay, so this place was a mess. They had almost triple the amount of patients 400 00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:29,750 from when it first started and not enough staff to handle it. Correct. 401 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,200 All right, so this sounds like a real bad recipe for disaster. What happens 402 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,540 next? In February of 1969, there were actually two deaths that occurred at the 403 00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:42,280 facility. So at that point, the Summit County prosecutor opened the first of 404 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,580 what would be many investigations and probes into the facility. 405 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:48,440 In fact, Stevie, here's an article that talks a little bit about the opening of 406 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,440 the probe. 407 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:51,300 Okay, so how did that go? 408 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:55,140 Well, after the probe was opened, a lot of calls flooded the prosecutor's office 409 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:57,460 about suspicious deaths that had occurred at the facility. 410 00:24:58,010 --> 00:25:00,370 All right, so how many suspicious deaths are we talking about? 411 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:05,250 There were reports of 33 total suspicious deaths, including 10 reported 412 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:08,970 Okay. And in addition to that, there was also an alleged drug trafficking ring. 413 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,930 All right, so with this big mess, I've got to assume somebody got indicted. 414 00:25:13,210 --> 00:25:16,570 Dave, believe it or not, there were never any charges filed. There were no 415 00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:17,630 criminal charges whatsoever. 416 00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:22,190 And what happened was the Summit County Grand Jury actually picked up the case, 417 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:24,470 and they said that neglect was not a criminal offense. 418 00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:27,350 All right, so did they ever shut this place down, at least? 419 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:31,820 Well, complaints continued to roll in all the way through the 1980s. And in 420 00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:36,840 1995, Hawthornden was rolled into another behavioral system. Okay. It 421 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,840 until 2017 that they actually ripped down the original buildings of the 422 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,700 facility. Okay, so this building's not there anymore. Not anymore. 423 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:48,920 You know, it's hard to imagine 50 years of complaints and it still went on. It's 424 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,980 a long time and it seems like not a lot of oversight. 425 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:55,560 Saying neglect is not a crime I have a problem with. You know, there is 426 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,560 neglect. 427 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:07,720 I saw a male. She felt very strong and regal. Then there were seven people, 428 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,900 people, sitting there. Her voice says, murderer. 429 00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:13,620 This was a long time ago. 430 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Someone is beaten and torn. 431 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,780 Someone says, prisoners. 432 00:26:30,670 --> 00:26:35,230 I saw several horrifying things on my walk, but the alien -looking dead man 433 00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:38,470 tormenting a sleeping child concerns me the most. 434 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:41,750 There were only, I think, like four fingers. 435 00:26:42,790 --> 00:26:43,870 Awkwardly long. 436 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:46,470 There's really no muscle mass. 437 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:56,790 Yes, so the alien hand is grabbing this kid. 438 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,840 Yes, 439 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,880 that's what I thought. 440 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:36,380 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 441 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:37,380 findings to each other. 442 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,620 and our clients for the first time. 443 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,360 So guys, this is Amy. 444 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:44,680 She's going to be conducting the reveal from one of your bedrooms so she can 445 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,060 focus on your case and the dead without any distractions. 446 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,780 Amy, I want you to meet Cheryl and Dan. 447 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:54,340 They're married and live here with Dan's 15 -year -old daughter, Olivia. 448 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Cheryl also has an 18 -year -old daughter, Riley, who just left for 449 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:03,680 We got called in because these guys think that something here is trying to 450 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,680 up their marriage. 451 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,500 They actually hope that's the case. 452 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:10,000 Because otherwise, it means they shouldn't be together anymore. 453 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,840 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, she may have some questions. 454 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,540 If not, she'll tell us about her war. 455 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:25,600 When I was heading down to the basement, I saw a male run past me 456 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,260 up the stairs. 457 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:33,760 And he was running to get out because he was afraid of getting caught. 458 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,480 When I finally made it into the basement, I saw a different man, and he 459 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:48,420 is putting money out on a table, and there's a woman across from him, and 460 00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:50,300 she's crying hysterically. 461 00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:55,680 Obviously, they're very upset about money, very stressed. He's feeling a lot 462 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,700 guilt about the situation. 463 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:01,280 It had something to do with business. 464 00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:07,150 I got that somehow these three people, this male, this female, and the other 465 00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:08,510 male running out were somehow connected. 466 00:29:09,130 --> 00:29:15,510 And later on, I got that the guy who was in the basement with the woman had 467 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:16,890 eventually killed himself. 468 00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:21,850 Oh, you guys thinking what I'm thinking? 469 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:23,750 Again, it's my dad. 470 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:25,070 Yeah. 471 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:29,350 Amy, Dan and Cheryl called this the dead room. 472 00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:30,810 The main reason. 473 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,800 They call it that. It's sitting right over there. Those two boxes are urns. 474 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,140 has the remains of Dan's father, Larry, and the other is his Uncle Ron. They 475 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:42,140 were brothers. 476 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Oh. This is a photo of Dan's Uncle Ron on this side right here. 477 00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:52,160 Do me a favor and describe Uncle Ron to Amy as well. 478 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800 He was into drugs and alcohol. 479 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Hard -headed. 480 00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:58,620 Well, he's gone. 481 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,080 He definitely moved on. 482 00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:06,040 Now, the situation you described sounds a little bit like what happened between 483 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,040 the two men. 484 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:10,240 My uncle and my dad had a falling out over business. 485 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:16,280 And when my father had committed suicide, 486 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,340 we found out after the fact that he was struggling with some money issues. 487 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640 How did your father do that, if you don't mind me asking? 488 00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:31,480 He wasn't supposed to have any guns in the house where he was at, but he shot 489 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,439 himself in the head. 490 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,220 Yeah, I heard the gunshot when I was walking up the stairs. 491 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Okay. 492 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:39,000 So this is Dan's father, Larry. 493 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:43,320 Sounds like the father's still here. 494 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,920 I'm sorry. 495 00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:53,000 I can feel him here. 496 00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:59,010 She's told me he's here. She said she's talked to him. Okay. 497 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:04,090 Do you have abilities you think of? Oh, I don't know. Some things come to me, 498 00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:06,830 and I tell him things, and I don't know if I'm nuts. 499 00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:12,290 I think you do have abilities. I think you're an empath, which is a difficult 500 00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:14,610 ability to take such an emotional toll. 501 00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:17,630 And I'm the one who made him bring the ashes. 502 00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:22,530 The ashes in this situation have nothing to do with anything. Anything. Okay, so 503 00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:23,850 the ashes are fine. Yeah. 504 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,620 So stop beating yourself up about the ashes. 505 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:30,140 That's one argument you guys don't have to have anymore. 506 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:33,900 What else, Amy? 507 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:40,940 So the next situation I want to talk about is I'm walking down the hall in 508 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:43,060 first room on the left. 509 00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:44,680 Okay, that's Cheryl's office. 510 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:51,120 When I went in there, I got a lot of negative energy, feelings of anger. 511 00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:55,390 I felt it was coming from a living person in the room. 512 00:31:56,290 --> 00:32:02,030 I felt like it was possible that this person was acting out aggressively. 513 00:32:02,530 --> 00:32:07,610 I was thinking that people could tell that this individual's demeanor had 514 00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:08,610 changed. 515 00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:12,630 So, Amy, remember when I told you that these guys, their marriage was in 516 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:13,650 trouble? Yeah. 517 00:32:13,870 --> 00:32:16,390 All right, so it's because Cheryl has changed. 518 00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:18,750 She goes into these rages. 519 00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:20,890 Tell Amy what's been going on with you. 520 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:25,640 Anger, rage, just mean and aggressive. 521 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,800 I'm not myself at all. 522 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360 And you guys are at the point where you don't know if you're going to make it 523 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,360 the way things are going. 524 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Yeah. 525 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:42,680 I don't think that it's that room that's making you that way. But as far as you 526 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,920 acting out in all of this, I think as an empath, it's... 527 00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:50,730 Just because of the environment we're in now, and you guys need to team up 528 00:32:50,730 --> 00:32:53,410 instead of splitting up. 529 00:32:56,530 --> 00:33:03,470 One of the bigger threats is this dead male that I encountered, who to me 530 00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:04,470 looked like an alien. 531 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:11,210 It turns out that it really was and is this dead male, but he does project 532 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:15,170 himself in ways that will scare people. 533 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,660 I didn't get a lot about him in life. 534 00:33:19,060 --> 00:33:24,760 I do believe that he may have abducted a child from this area, possibly in the 535 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,380 80s, and he knew her. He was a neighbor. 536 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,380 Definitely a pervert. 537 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,280 I also think that he might have killed children when he was alive. 538 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,240 All right. Well, unfortunately, there's someone who fits your description to a T 539 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,920 that came up in my investigation. 540 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,060 There's a motel about two -thirds of a mile up the road from here. 541 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,520 In 1988, a 13 -year -old named Lori Ewald lived there with her mom and three 542 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,359 her brothers. 543 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,820 So on September 15th of that year, one of her brothers came home from school 544 00:33:56,820 --> 00:34:00,100 saw her through the window lying in a pool of her own blood. 545 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,700 So a 16 -year -old neighbor came over, helped her brother kick down the door, 546 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,300 got inside, and found Lori dead on the floor. 547 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,860 She had been stabbed on the right side of her neck, but she was also sexually 548 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:13,860 assaulted. 549 00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:19,260 Now, 10 days later, the cops made an arrest. 550 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,920 The person they charged with that murder was the 16 -year -old neighbor that 551 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,040 knocked down that door. 552 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,560 Wow. Okay. 553 00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:32,080 Now, his name was Donald Cedric, and it wasn't his first time having an issue 554 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080 with the cops. 555 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,480 18 months earlier, he had grabbed another 13 -year -old girl walking home 556 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,699 school, forced her into a park school bus, raped and stabbed her. 557 00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:43,460 Amazingly, she survived. 558 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,300 He was charged as a juvenile. 559 00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:48,570 And that's why he got out so fast, and that's why this girl Lori's dead. 560 00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:53,090 But after the murder, they tried him as an adult, and he ended up with a life 561 00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:59,170 sentence. Now, in 2013, Shedrick got very sick, and he was brought to a 562 00:34:59,170 --> 00:35:00,590 locally and died. 563 00:35:01,090 --> 00:35:05,390 Now, we do know he was 41 years old when he died. I managed to track down a 564 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:06,390 photo of him. 565 00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:11,050 What he died of, I've made a million phone calls, nobody could tell us, but 566 00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:12,050 died of some kind of disease. 567 00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:15,030 Is it possible this is who you're talking about? 568 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,080 Yes. Yes. 569 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:19,900 Disgusting and horrible. 570 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,100 Yeah. Now, you said this guy was a big threat here. What does he do? 571 00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:26,620 He's all about creating fear in people. 572 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:33,020 I don't like aliens and they do scare me, so that's what he was depicting to 573 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:39,220 So is this guy portraying stuff that makes each individual afraid? 574 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:43,240 Yeah, whatever, you know, would make that person uncomfortable. 575 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,500 I've seen black masses. 576 00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:47,040 Okay, okay. 577 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,520 Yeah, that's this guy. 578 00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:56,460 I saw him on the roof, and he was jumping around up there and making 579 00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:57,460 steps. 580 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,520 I've heard loud bangs, scuffling, like running really quickly. 581 00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:09,080 I'm in the living room. I definitely do hear, it sounds like shuffling in the 582 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,080 attic or the roof. 583 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,260 Honestly, for me, everything's not paranormal, so I called in. 584 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:14,720 pest control expert. 585 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,100 He says because of the foundation and how the house is raised, it's very easy 586 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,780 for wildlife to get into the crawl space. 587 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:26,840 But he didn't find any animal droppings and he didn't find any animals. So at 588 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,680 some point, you might want to call him to take care of that, you know, make 589 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,680 that doesn't happen. 590 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:35,540 As far as the creep jumping up on the roof, that I got to give to Amy. 591 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,400 What sucks is that I did see that he could interact. 592 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,140 Physically. So touching is possible. 593 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,000 Grabbing is possible. 594 00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:50,320 Somebody getting in bed with you. 595 00:36:51,860 --> 00:36:57,700 I woke up kind of startled, but I was feeling pressure as if somebody was 596 00:36:57,700 --> 00:36:59,820 pressing on each side of my hip. 597 00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:06,720 And I physically felt the bed move underneath me. I was just freaked out. 598 00:37:06,820 --> 00:37:08,480 Cheryl, you got your hip pulled. 599 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:11,660 More than once, right? That's interesting. 600 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:16,550 It's not a mean tug, but it's an attention tug. 601 00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:22,550 Then I went into the last room on the left. Which is Olivia's room. 602 00:37:23,290 --> 00:37:28,010 I kept getting the, like, extreme chills in that room. 603 00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:32,850 What I thought was a little boy huddled in the bed, like in a fetal position. 604 00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:37,430 And I couldn't tell if he lived here now or if this was prior. 605 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,920 Previous owners had sons. Could that be what you're seeing? 606 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Oh, yeah. Okay. 607 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,340 He's young, scared. He's getting a ball, like crying and crying and crying. 608 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:57,380 And I see, like from outside, there's like an arm reaching through the 609 00:37:57,380 --> 00:37:59,640 wall and grabbing him. 610 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:06,220 So I did have a sketch done of the male reaching through the wall. 611 00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:25,510 What is going on there that's terrifying? 612 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:28,510 I want to grab the guy. 613 00:38:29,470 --> 00:38:30,930 I want to kill him myself. 614 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:33,930 I mean, what the does this guy want from these people? 615 00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:40,030 He likes to torture people. He likes to make people scared and uncomfortable. 616 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:41,970 Definitely children. 617 00:38:42,270 --> 00:38:48,430 He'll focus on the children as much as he can. And I heard him say death to 618 00:38:48,430 --> 00:38:49,430 little girls. 619 00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:53,930 How are you feeling, Cheryl? You seem a little stunned. 620 00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:57,550 Angry. I need him gone. 621 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:59,150 Like, now. 622 00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:01,450 He's got to go ASAP. 623 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:05,610 If he wasn't dead now, I think I'd kill him. 624 00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:28,950 Okay, guys, so the good news is we finally know why you guys have been 625 00:39:29,590 --> 00:39:32,810 The bad news is there's a lot more going on here. 626 00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:37,930 Now to answer the big question, can you stay and fight or do you need to cut and 627 00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:40,270 run? For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 628 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:49,830 So as far as the perverted freak guy, I have a call out to a person 629 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:51,650 who lives in the area. 630 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:53,830 He's like... 631 00:39:54,140 --> 00:40:00,940 A badass medium who I think will be able to tackle this guy 632 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:03,560 with the assistance of a demonologist. 633 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,120 I'm good with that. Yeah. 634 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,600 He needs to go. I would agree. 635 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,980 Get rid of them all together. 636 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Once that's done, a male medium can refer you to an 637 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,560 older female medium who has a background in psychology. 638 00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:30,430 who can come and have a few sessions with your father downstairs so that he 639 00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:36,730 can focus and process out all of this trauma that he's experiencing. 640 00:40:38,190 --> 00:40:44,990 For the last one, I think it would be really great if the entire family can 641 00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:49,450 have a session with him and the medium before he moves on. 642 00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:52,490 So Dan may have a chance to say goodbye to his dad. 643 00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:53,770 Yes. 644 00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:56,370 I think everybody in this family needs that. Yeah. 645 00:40:57,650 --> 00:41:03,330 And then, of course, the last thing is I really want you guys to get marriage 646 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:05,070 counseling. Peace out. 647 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:06,870 Peace out. 648 00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:11,830 I feel good about that, and I feel good about getting counseling. I think we'll 649 00:41:11,830 --> 00:41:12,830 be okay. 650 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:16,090 You know, I like you guys very much, especially as a couple. 651 00:41:16,450 --> 00:41:17,930 Promise me you're going to do this. 652 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,520 Oh, yeah. Therapy thing. Oh, I promise. 653 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,760 No, I don't want to lose her. I want to lose the creep in the house. 654 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,740 I really hope Dan and Cheryl bring in the mediums and demonologists I've 655 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:36,140 recommended. With their help, they should be able to banish the dead man 656 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:37,220 move on Dan's father. 657 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,060 Once they do that and seek out marriage counseling, I believe their relationship 658 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:45,300 will heal and they will live a peaceful and happy life.