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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 [mournful choir music playing] 2 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,239 {\an8}[buzzer sounds] 3 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,479 {\an8}[busy chatter] 4 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:44,560 {\an8}Oh. 5 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,640 {\an8}[button beeps] 6 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,520 {\an8}[man] Do you work here? 7 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,440 {\an8}- Um, I'm a visitor. - [man] Right. 8 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,200 {\an8}Right. Do you wanna just come through for a second? 9 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,159 {\an8}[Briony] Sorry. I'm a bit late. 10 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,039 {\an8}That's all right. I saw you coming up on the cameras. 11 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,560 {\an8}He's being brought down. 12 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,319 {\an8}Um, I heard he was involved in a violent incident. 13 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:17,239 {\an8}- [clicks tongue] How'd you hear that? - It was reported up. 14 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 {\an8}- That would be useful to see-- - Is that... relevant? 15 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:21,960 {\an8}To what you'll assess? 16 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:24,479 {\an8}I'd like to see it. 17 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,440 {\an8}Okay. I'll, uh, fire up the megaport. 18 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Yeah, he's been pretty quiet. 19 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Don't know if that's relevant. 20 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,640 If what I think and observe is relevant to what you assess. 21 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,520 - [machine beeps] - [man] Here we go. 22 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,999 - Yeah. It's just bruising and scratching. - [Briony] I read the report. 23 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 - [man] Both blame the other. - [Briony] I know. I read the report. 24 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,040 You're on... five visits? 25 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,079 - Yes. - [man] Mm. 26 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,960 Know what you're gonna say in the report? 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,360 I wouldn't be here if I knew that. 28 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,079 Well, the other one of you. He only needed three, so-- 29 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,399 You can't say any more. 30 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,239 It's important I don't know what the other psychologist says, 31 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,720 does, or thinks. 32 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,439 It's about making the right assessment, not the fastest. 33 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,640 - [man] Sorry. I'm just being an idiot. - No, I did... That's just the way I work. 34 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,519 Right. That's Jamie in place. 35 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,760 I'll take you through. 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,279 I need to get a hot chocolate from the machine. 37 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,560 [man] I remember. 38 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,680 [machine whirring] 39 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,039 [boy screaming in distance] 40 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Get off me! 41 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 No! You get off! 42 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Yeah, we've got a torture lab in the basement. 43 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Government approved. All very hush-hush. 44 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,039 What are they? 45 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,439 [Briony] He likes his hot chocolate with marshmallows on. 46 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,519 You must mean business. Never done them before. 47 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,480 - [alarm blaring] - That was, uh, Mark, I think. 48 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,560 Radiator burns all over him, poor kid. 49 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 I don't know what he did to get here, though. 50 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 He's not famous like your Jamie. 51 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520 - Come on! - Two of us on the way now. 52 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Right. You know where I am. 53 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,680 - You okay? - [Briony] Yes. 54 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,240 - Hi, Jamie. - [Jamie] Hi. 55 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,239 - You need us, we're here. - [Briony] Yes. 56 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,159 - Same goes for you, Jamie. - [Jamie] Yeah. 57 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,920 [guard] We'll be watching, okay? 58 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,840 - [door closes] - [Jamie sniffles] 59 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,199 Hot chocolate. 60 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Spri... Sprinkles? 61 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Lots of them. 62 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,280 You remembered. Thank you. 63 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,959 And I saved you half my sandwich in case you were hungry. 64 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,040 What is it? 65 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,000 [Briony] Cheese and pickle. 66 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,359 No tomatoes? 67 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,600 [Briony] Tomatoes don't go very well with pickle. 68 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,240 No salad? 69 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,480 Would I do that to you? 70 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,599 There's no tomatoes. No salad. There's just cheese and pickle. 71 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,119 - Do you want it? I'll save it for later. - No. I'll have it. 72 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Ah, I... I don't know about pickle, though, but... I'll have it. 73 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,440 [sighs] 74 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,559 - Did you make it? - Yes. 75 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,520 - You make butties, do you? - What, you think that's weird? 76 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,439 No. My mum makes 'em. 77 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Well, that makes two of us, then. 78 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,959 This is nice. 79 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,960 It's a bit hot. 80 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,760 I don't mind hot. 81 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,360 [sniffles] 82 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,120 - You're looking better than last time. - What's that supposed to mean? 83 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,600 You've just got some of your color back. 84 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,039 - You sound like a granny. - [chuckles] Do I? 85 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,720 "Oh, you got your color back. You can't have been that ill." 86 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,560 - [Briony] That's a good voice. - No. 87 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,160 [Briony] Do you see your grandparents much? 88 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,080 - Well, not recently, no. - [Briony] No, I meant before all this. 89 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,519 Yeah, a bit. 90 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,879 My dad's side... my dad's mum and dad. My mum didn't get on with hers. 91 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,680 [Briony] Yeah, we spoke about that. 92 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 - So, what are your dad's parents like? - [clears throat] 93 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,040 [sighs] I don't know. Like him. 94 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,960 [Briony] Well, what does that mean? 95 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,319 They like things as they like them. "No gravy. Such a shame." 96 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,839 Or, "I like a slice with my dinner if you've got one in, Amanda." 97 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,320 [chuckles] A slice... A slice of what? 98 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,000 [scoffs] Bread. 99 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,519 - You're posh, aren't ya? - No, I'm just not from where you're from. 100 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,119 Well, what do you call bread if you don't call it a slice? 101 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Mm, bread? 102 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,839 [both laugh] 103 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:40,000 You're posh. 104 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,439 If it makes you happy that I am, Jamie, then I am. 105 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,519 Well, what do you call your grandad? Bet you call him "Grandpa." 106 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,079 - I do not. - I bet you do. 107 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,599 I call him "Pop-pop." 108 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,680 What? 109 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,239 Do ya? 110 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,119 - Yes, I do. - Wow! [laughs] 111 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,479 - Jesus. I've not heard that one before. - I don't know why. 112 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Okay. Maybe he asked me to call him that. I'm not sure. 113 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,800 - God, you're really posh. - [sighs] 114 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,640 [Jamie inhales sharply] 115 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,880 Are you not gonna try the sandwich? 116 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 I'll have it later. It's just... the pickle. 117 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,359 Hate it. 118 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,600 You hate it? 119 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,399 - Oh, I really messed up, then. - Yeah, you did. 120 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Okay. 121 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 So, can we talk a bit about you? 122 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 You see a lot of your dad in your grandad, do you? 123 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Yeah, I don't know. 124 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,319 Is it just what they say, or how they do things? 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,360 What's your dad and his dad like? 126 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Men. 127 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Okay. Well, would "masculine" be an okay word to use? 128 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,160 [Jamie] You used it. 129 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,680 When I hear the word "masculine," I think they can mend things. 130 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,839 They like to make things. 131 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,240 They like sports. They like going to the pub. 132 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,240 [Jamie] Yeah. 133 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,159 Not the pub, but, yeah. 134 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Your dad doesn't go to the pub? 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,560 [Jamie clicks tongue] No, not... not really. 136 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,640 Not as much as my pop-pop. 137 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,000 - Not gonna let me forget that, are you? - [Jamie chuckles] No. 138 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,800 So, your grandad's more of a pub man, is he? 139 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,319 [Jamie] I dunno. He... He's not around that much anymore. 140 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,280 How much? 141 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Every other Sunday, maybe. 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,559 Sometimes in the week when they're both... 143 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Mum and Dad are both working, but that's more Granny. 144 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,680 A bit more in the holidays. 145 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,680 - We went to Tenerife with them once. - On holiday? 146 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,440 No, banana picking. 147 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,319 - [chuckles] - [scoffs] 148 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,600 - Obviously it was on holiday. - Okay. [laughs] 149 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,960 I don't think I've ever heard anyone use banana picking in a comeback. 150 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,840 - [laughs, sighs] - [Jamie chuckles softly] 151 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,079 I suppose the other thing I think about when I hear the word "masculine" 152 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,839 would be the way that masculine men-- 153 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,199 This started 'cause I said you sounded like a granny. 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,080 - [Briony] What? - [sighs] 155 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,320 This all started because I said you sounded like a granny. 156 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,599 And now you're just going on about masculine stuff. 157 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,759 [Briony] Yes. 158 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,239 The first time you came, you had actual questions. 159 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,200 "Is this right, Jamie? Do you know whether this is wrong, Jamie?" 160 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,679 - Now you're just chatting shit. - I hope I'm not. 161 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,199 Well, you are, because the first time you're all, 162 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,399 "If an adult guinea pig eats one of its kids, is that normal or weird?" 163 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,639 - And now you're, "What do you call bread?" - Come on. 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,279 - I'm interested. - It feels like a trick. 165 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,280 Trick? Trick into what? 166 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,160 My dad's okay. 167 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,360 All right? 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Okay. I know. 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,960 Just talking about him. 170 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,120 There isn't a need. 171 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Fine, if that's how you feel. But I'm not trying to trick you. 172 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,759 [sighs] 173 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,400 - And now I've pissed you off. - [Briony] No. 174 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,559 Can I see your notes? What you've got written down about me? 175 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:58,679 - Do you see me writing? - [Jamie] You must write stuff. 176 00:09:58,680 --> 00:09:59,959 Yes. 177 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:02,720 [Jamie] Can I see what you wrote? What you've written? 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,440 Of course you can't. 179 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,479 - The lawyers have said you work for us. - That's not what they say, Jamie. 180 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 And I know that because I asked them the last time you said that to me. 181 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,200 [Jamie] You talk to them? 182 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,599 I explained. I've been employed by your team, but I don't work for you. 183 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,119 - [Jamie] What do you tell them? - I'm writing an independent-- 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,760 - [Jamie] What do they say to you? - A presentence offense report. 185 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,799 Which the judge will read to get an understanding of you 186 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,279 and your understanding of the charges. Okay? 187 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,560 [Jamie sighs] 188 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,920 All I want to do is talk to you, Jamie, and have you talk to me. 189 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,159 Yes, I've asked some straightforward questions. 190 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,319 - But I think... - [yawns] 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,640 [Briony] Am I boring you? 192 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,800 - No. - [Briony] Okay. 193 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,119 I think you, and everyone else for that matter, 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,320 are far more complex than straightforward questions allow for. 195 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:59,520 We had a good conversation last time. Can we try that again? 196 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,639 What did we talk about last time? 197 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,519 We spoke about your friends, your sister, your mum. We went-- 198 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,959 - Can't remember saying anything about 'em. - Well, you did. 199 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,479 How you feel about them. How Lisa's doing. What you think your mum thinks of you. 200 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,800 - Now you wanna talk about my dad? - I want to talk about lots of things. 201 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,679 [Jamie sighs] 202 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:21,519 I could tell you questions that I wrote down to talk to you about today. 203 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,760 If that helps. 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,040 All right. Yeah. 205 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,719 Okay. Well, I wanted to talk about the fight you had. 206 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,639 - That was nothing. - I was interested why you got in a fight. 207 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,680 - He hit me first. - Why? 208 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,960 Because we've had beef over stuff. 209 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,280 It doesn't matter. It wasn't a proper fight. 210 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,559 - It's not that interesting? - It's not. 211 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,399 Okay, let's move on. 212 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,240 - What? I'm in charge now, am I? - Mm. Maybe. 213 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,960 I also wrote down that I wanted to talk to you about what being a man feels like. 214 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,840 You want a cock and balls, do ya? 215 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,680 I'm interested in what being a man feels like for you. 216 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:04,440 I dunno. 217 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,800 It's too big a question, right? 218 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,280 And the fight's too small a question. 219 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,159 Which is why it's more useful for me to see where the conversation goes 220 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,439 and steer it a bit into what you think of your dad and your grandad, for instance. 221 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,159 The type of men you think they are. 222 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,080 Rather than saying, "So, Jamie, what do you think being a man feels like?" 223 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,839 [Jamie chuckles] 224 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,479 "So, Jamie, what do you think being a man feels like?" 225 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,840 It's not a trick. 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,600 It's just a conversation. 227 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,320 So, do you think it would be okay if we speak about your dad? 228 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,759 Can I just see your notes? What you wrote, how you wrote it? 229 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,680 Nope. 230 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,840 You're not that in charge. 231 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Does your dad like his job? 232 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,520 He fixes toilets. What do you think? 233 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,240 He works hard. 234 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,759 Long hours. You get the best money from emergency plumbing out of hours. 235 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,840 Is he funny? 236 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,399 Sometimes. 237 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Loving? 238 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,960 - No, that's weird. - Angry? 239 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,879 I suppose. 240 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,320 How angry does he get? 241 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,999 He's never hit me. 242 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Okay, go on. 243 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Go on what? 244 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,559 - Is that what this is about? - Why do you call him angry? 245 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,119 He just gets mad. We all do. 246 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Okay. That's okay. He's just angry in a normal way. 247 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Well, he's pulled a shed down once when he was in a proper rager, but... 248 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,879 [clears throat] ...that's as bad as it gets. 249 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Were you frightened? 250 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,760 No, I... I thought it was quite funny at the time. 251 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,520 Lisa did too. Then Mum sent us upstairs. 252 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,960 He's not like that most of the time. 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Hardly ever. 254 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,320 What does he do when he's not working? 255 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,919 It just feels like you're testing him. 256 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,560 No, I'm just interested in your view of him. 257 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,239 He's a big presence in your life. He was your appropriate adult. 258 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Yeah, 'cause... he doesn't judge. 259 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,360 He... He's a kind person. 260 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,120 That's good to know. 261 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,600 So, what does he do when he's not working? 262 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 He basically likes all sport. 263 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,039 My mum always said if he'd watch lawn bowls, he'd make it fun. 264 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Would you watch lawn bowls with him? 265 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,119 No, it's... it's not for me. 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,440 Are you not into sport? 267 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,480 - No. - None of it? 268 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Yeah, I'm... I'm not good at much, but... I'm really good at getting out of PE. 269 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,320 How do you do that, then? 270 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Um, headaches. Hurt my leg. 271 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Funny tummy. 272 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,999 [sighs] "Sir, I feel dizzy. Can I sit down?" That sort of thing. 273 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,160 What did... does your dad make of that? 274 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,240 He, um... He didn't... 275 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,080 [clears throat] He doesn't... He doesn't know. 276 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,160 He knew I wasn't sporty or anything like that. 277 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,000 [sighs] 278 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,680 I... I used to, uh... He used to take me to football. 279 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,680 [clears throat] This... 280 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,160 This football thing on... on Saturdays. 281 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:19,760 And he'd, um... 282 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,440 [sighs] 283 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,080 He'd cheer me on and everything, but... 284 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,240 [sighs] 285 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,760 But when I... I'd fuck up, he'd just... 286 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,520 [sighs] 287 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,400 [exhales heavily] 288 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,120 [sighs] 289 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,560 He'd... He'd just look away. 290 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,480 [Briony] Pretend he didn't see? 291 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Maybe, or... 292 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,440 [clears throat] 293 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,240 [sighs] Maybe he just didn't want me to see him looking... 294 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,640 [sighs, hesitates] ...sorry. 295 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Sorry? 296 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,360 I dunno. 297 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Ashamed. 298 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,280 How did you feel when you saw that shame? 299 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 - You're supposed to say he wasn't. - Am I? 300 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Yeah. 301 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,559 You're supposed to say, "Oh, bet he wasn't ashamed." 302 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,119 "Bet you just thought that, Jamie." 303 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,999 Or, "Is that what you really think? He wouldn't be ashamed, not of his kid." 304 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,239 - Have other people said that to you? - It's just the right thing to say. 305 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,519 Isn't it lying? 306 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,600 No. 307 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,240 [sighs] I don't know. I don't like lying. 308 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,880 [sighs] 309 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,640 I wasn't into school sports either. 310 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Yeah, well, you were good at other stuff, though, weren't ya? 311 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Why do you think that? 312 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,400 You look like you were, and you're... 313 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,120 And you're clever, so... 314 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,280 Did you not think you were very good at anything else? 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 No. I... I didn't care I wasn't. 316 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,160 It must be hard to feel that way. 317 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,600 No. 318 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,560 I think most people think like that. 319 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,079 Most people think they're bad at everything? 320 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,520 Most people are. 321 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,800 Does your sister feel like that? 322 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,440 No. 323 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,120 Lisa's clever. 324 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,800 Your dad? 325 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,680 I don't know. 326 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,200 My... My mum does, though. 327 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Your mum thinks she's bad at everything? 328 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,520 She can cook a roast, but... 329 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,720 I mean, you'd have to ask her. 330 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Have you met them yet? 331 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,279 - Your family? - Yeah. 332 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,480 I've... spoken to your dad on the phone. 333 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,039 - Yeah? - Yes. As part of my assessment. 334 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,239 How is he? 335 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,359 He's okay. He's sad you're here. I can't say more than that. 336 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,600 [Jamie sighs] 337 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,680 [exhales] 338 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,599 Well, it... it's wrong... 339 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,559 [sighs] 340 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,680 ...that I'm in here. 341 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,240 [sighs] Can I ask you a question? 342 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,960 Of course you can. 343 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,639 - Can you get me out of this place? - I'm afraid I'm of no use to you there. 344 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,279 Why couldn't they put me in a proper prison? 345 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,919 - A better facility wasn't available. - Putting me in a madhouse? 346 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,440 - It's a secure training center. - Training? 347 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,119 [hesitates] What are they training us for? 348 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,159 The other boys just scream all the time. 349 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,999 They rock backwards and forwards, and they shout at Coronation Street. 350 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,599 All the way through Corrie. 351 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,079 One kid goes nuts every time he sees Steve McDonald. It's mad in here. 352 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,479 - [Briony] This was the best place for you. - Ryan gets to stay home until his trial. 353 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,559 [Briony] Ryan isn't accused of such a serious crime. 354 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,279 Accused. It's all accused. 355 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,319 If I did it, if I hurt her, then I'd get it, but I didn't, so-- 356 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,079 - [Briony] As far as I understand it-- - Am I getting moved for the trial? 357 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,519 Nothing has been decided yet. 358 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,999 Do you know where it's gonna be? London or local? 359 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,159 You need to sit down, Jamie. If you don't sit down, I have-- 360 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,319 You don't know, or you just won't tell me? 361 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,719 Nothing's been decided yet. You need to sit down! 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,639 I don't want to sit! 363 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,759 If you don't sit, I have to stop this discussion. 364 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,719 - Maybe I want you to! - Do you? 365 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,919 It'd piss you off. You'd have to go home and then come back again. 366 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,599 Jamie, if you do not sit-- 367 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,999 I don't fucking wanna sit down! 368 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,119 You do not tell me when to sit down! 369 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,519 You do not control what I fucking... 370 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,879 Look at me now! [panting] 371 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,839 You do not control what I do in my life! 372 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,039 Get that in that fucking little head of yours! 373 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,319 [door opens] 374 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,559 [Jamie] Fucking hell! 375 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,080 [guard] Is everything okay? 376 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,159 [Jamie sighs] 377 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,519 [grunts] 378 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,200 - There isn't a problem. - Fuck. 379 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:45,840 Jamie. 380 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:47,959 [inhales sharply] 381 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,520 I shouted. I'm sorry. 382 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,839 - Do you want him taken out? - No. 383 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,440 I'll get a cup of tea, though, if that's okay. 384 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Can I have another hot chocolate, please? 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,159 - Sure. - [Jamie] You don't have to. 386 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,199 Sure. 387 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,880 - [somber, oppressive music rises] - [indistinct shouting in distance] 388 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,480 [exhales sharply] 389 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,040 [huffs] 390 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,080 [sighs] 391 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,440 [man] Causing trouble, is he? 392 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,880 [sighs] 393 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,880 Uh, could I look in the room? 394 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,639 - There's no audio. - That's fine. Can I look? 395 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,759 Of course. Mi casa is your casa. Or whatever they say. [chuckles] 396 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,440 [excited chatter nearby] 397 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,200 - [man] After you. - Thank you. 398 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,120 What are you seeing? 399 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,120 I mean, what is it you're looking for? Is it body language stuff? 400 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 It's just, I'm reading a book on that at the moment. 401 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,680 My sister gave it to me. 402 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,120 You see, 403 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,840 people hide. 404 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,160 I know I don't need to tell you this, but... they hide so much. 405 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,160 Maybe they tell the truth with their bodies, you know? 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,320 - Faces-- - [curtly] Yes, maybe. 407 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,680 I couldn't do what you do. 408 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,080 I'm sure I couldn't do what you do. 409 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Do you want to job swap? 410 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,920 What's your hours? 411 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,399 What's your wages? [chuckles] 412 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,440 - What's your holiday allowance? - No. I like my job most of the time. 413 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Well... I hate mine. 414 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 So you're probably best off. 415 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,360 Right. 416 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,280 That's all I needed. 417 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,640 Dib dib dib. 418 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,200 - Pleased to help. - Thank you. 419 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,080 Thanks. 420 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,440 [exhales deeply] 421 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,200 [clears throat] 422 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,800 [exhales sharply] 423 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,879 [guard] Would you be comfortable with me staying? 424 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,999 No, I wouldn't like that at all. 425 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,759 Right, Jamie. I'm not a police officer. I'm not here to elicit a confession. 426 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,999 I'm just here to understand. I know you think I'm trying to trick you. 427 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,839 I said... I said that ages ago. 428 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,480 I am just here to get an understanding of your understanding. 429 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040 [sighs] And I understand 430 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,000 that you need to have an understanding of my understanding. 431 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,880 Go on. 432 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,960 Ask your questions. 433 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,280 [sighs] I'm better now. 434 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,320 [exhales] 435 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,640 Okay. Uh... 436 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,839 Well, I suppose the other thing I think of in relation to the word "masculinity" 437 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,000 would be how masculine men feel about women. 438 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600 - We're back on that, are we? - Yes. Is that okay? 439 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,520 [sighs] Uh, yeah. 440 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,720 You need to have an understanding of my understanding of women. 441 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,199 - I forgot your hot chocolate. - It's fine. 442 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,280 - I'll get it. - No, just... sit down, please. 443 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,920 [sighs] 444 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,759 It's fine. I don't deserve it. 445 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,960 I shouted. 446 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Ask your questions about men, women, whatever. 447 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Well, you must have views on men and women. 448 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,120 How does your dad treat your mum? 449 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,440 - Are you trying to get at my dad again? - No, not get at him. 450 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,719 Dad's actually nice to Mum. 451 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,279 You did say he tore down a shed. 452 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,359 Yeah, he just gets angry with himself, but he's never hit her. 453 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,040 Does he speak to other women? 454 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,479 - What? - Is he friendly with other women? 455 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 What? No. He loves my mum. 456 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,840 No, I'm asking whether any of his friends are women. 457 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,439 No, his mates are his mates. 458 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,560 And they're men? 459 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,879 Is that wrong? What does that mean? 460 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,000 No. No, that's not wrong. 461 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,519 I thought we'd done talking about my dad. 462 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,160 - Jamie, I'm just trying to understand-- - Understand. 463 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,720 I know, but... none of this is nothing to do with him. 464 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,599 - [sighs] - Okay, that's fine. 465 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,680 - Do you have any mates who are women? - No. 466 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,320 Like your dad, your mates are male? 467 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,479 [sighs] The other shrink asks more normal questions, you know? 468 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,079 - Okay. - Wanna know what he asks? 469 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,319 - I can't know. - [scoffs] I'm just saying. 470 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,279 I can't know, Jamie. My conclusions have to be independent. 471 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,400 All right, okay. I won't say anything. 472 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,600 What do you think about women? 473 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,679 I like them. 474 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,480 But you're not, like you say, particularly friends with them? 475 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,119 I'm not a twat, though. 476 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,120 - Are you attracted to women? - Yeah, I'm not gay. 477 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,279 We've established you don't have a girlfriend. 478 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,599 - Yeah. - But I don't think I asked before. 479 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,239 Would you like a girlfriend? 480 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Yeah, who doesn't? 481 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,439 If you had a girlfriend, what would you do with her? 482 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,959 [hesitates] What does that mean? 483 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,640 Well, would you take her out? If you did, where would you take her? 484 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,680 [sighs] The cinema. 485 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,520 To see what kind of film? 486 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,440 A horror. 487 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Fifteen certificate? 488 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Mm. Yeah, they're pretty slack. You can get in. 489 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,880 And after the cinema, would you 490 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,839 take her for a walk, take her straight home? 491 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,880 No. 492 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Not straight home. 493 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Would you want to kiss her? 494 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,600 - Are you allowed to ask these questions? - What, you don't discuss this in PSHE? 495 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,120 [Jamie sighs] 496 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,679 What do you think is the normal amount 497 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,160 someone your age would do sexually with a girl or boy? 498 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280 - I told you, I'm not gay. - I wasn't suggesting that you were. 499 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,240 - You really want me to answer? - Yes, if you can. 500 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320 I don't know. Touching. Kissing. 501 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,639 Well, what do you mean by touching? 502 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,840 [clears throat] 503 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,640 Touching her... Touching her bits. 504 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,399 Her chest? 505 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240 - Yeah. - Her backside? 506 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,280 - Yeah. - Her vulva? 507 00:26:58,120 --> 00:26:59,200 Her vagina? 508 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,080 I don't know, maybe. 509 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,280 - Probably not? - Maybe. 510 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,999 [sighs] 511 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,199 Are you sure you're allowed to ask these questions? 512 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,559 So, you think it's normal for a 13-year-old heterosexual boy 513 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040 to have engaged in touching of a girl's chest and her backside? 514 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,040 Above or below clothes? 515 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,560 [sighs] Below... maybe. 516 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,200 Above, mostly. 517 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,360 I've actually done all that. Kissing and touching. 518 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,360 Okay. 519 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,599 And I've had two girls show me their tits. Chest. 520 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800 It's okay. You don't have to use my language. 521 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,040 And I touched them, so... 522 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Okay. 523 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,120 And one of them touched my, uh... my... my knob 524 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,920 through my trousers. 525 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,080 Okay. 526 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,519 And I think she liked it. 527 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,600 And you liked it? 528 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:58,200 Of course. 529 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,840 [sighs] 530 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,200 Not really. 531 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,559 You didn't like it? 532 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,720 [exhales] 533 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,720 [sighs] I dunno. 534 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720 There's no right or wrong answer in this room, Jamie. 535 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400 You do know that. It's just your best attempt at the truth. 536 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,000 [sighs] Yeah. 537 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,800 That... That didn't happen. 538 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,840 - You weren't touched on your trousers? - No, I wasn't. 539 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,959 And did two girls go topless with you? 540 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,880 No, but... 541 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,679 - [clears throat] I've seen photos, though. - You've seen porn photos? 542 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,760 No, not porn. 543 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Everyone sees porn. 544 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Just these two girls in my year that I knew. Well, know. 545 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920 You saw photos of two girls in your year topless? 546 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Yeah. 547 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Would they be happy you saw those photos? 548 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,280 Everyone else did. 549 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Was Katie one of those two girls? 550 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,560 What? 551 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,279 - How do you know that? - How did it feel-- 552 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,239 - No. How did you guess that? - I didn't guess it. I asked it. 553 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,439 And now I'd like to know what it felt like to see that. 554 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,680 - You're asking whether I got a hard-on? - I'm asking how it felt. 555 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,999 [scoffs] I... I liked it. Are we allowed to talk like this? 556 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,239 How does it make you feel, looking at naked pictures of people? 557 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,159 How do you think? 558 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,679 How does it make you feel, 559 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080 looking at naked pictures of people you know? 560 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,760 I dunno. Good. 561 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,199 Powerful? 562 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,200 - Do you feel like it gives you a power? - No. 563 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,880 It's just weird. 564 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,959 [sighs] 565 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Were you attracted to Katie? 566 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,640 She wasn't my type. 567 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,560 So you weren't? 568 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,359 [sighs] 569 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,199 She was quite... [sighs] 570 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,000 ...no offense, but flat, you know? 571 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Right. 572 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,600 Well, everyone else said it... who saw it. That's not just me. 573 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,559 [clears throat] 574 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,480 The picture got passed around the school. Snapchat, you know. 575 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,120 It was just her... 576 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320 [hesitates] ...top half. 577 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Not, uh, anything else. 578 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000 She sent it to Fidget, and then he sent it on. 579 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,600 Why did she send it to Fidget? 580 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,960 I dunno. She fancied him. 581 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,320 So she was trying to attract him? 582 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,000 [sighs] I think he asked her. 583 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,600 He's not gonna get any more pictures, though, is he? 584 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,839 No. She's dead. 585 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,920 [tense silence] 586 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,559 [Jamie breathing shakily] 587 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,079 No, I... 588 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,680 I didn't mean from her. 589 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,000 I meant from other girls. 590 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,279 No one'll send him pictures 591 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,079 because he wasn't careful with the one he got. [sighs] 592 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,319 The twat. 593 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,199 So you think he should have collected more pictures from more girls 594 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,240 before he shared them with other boys? 595 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,680 [sighs] Yeah. I dunno. 596 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,880 [exhales] 597 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400 Why... Why did you say "She's dead" like that? 598 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Because she is. 599 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,720 [Jamie sighs] 600 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,639 Jamie, I asked whether you were attracted to women. 601 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Do you think women are attracted to you? 602 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,879 What sort of question's that? 603 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Well, what do you think? Do you think girls are attracted to you? 604 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,160 No. 605 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Of course not. 606 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Why, "of course not"? 607 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Because I'm... I... I'm ugly. 608 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,720 [sighs] 609 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,840 How does that make you feel? 610 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,759 - Aren't you supposed to say I'm not ugly? - What I think isn't important. 611 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,759 You don't say the things normal people say. 612 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,479 How would you feel if I did? 613 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,719 I don't know why you don't say things normal people say. 614 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,719 I should have contradicted you when you said your dad was ashamed, 615 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,679 and you think I should contradict you now when you tell me you think yourself ugly? 616 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,640 [sighs] I dunno. 617 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,520 I'm interested in the fact that you think you're ugly, Jamie. 618 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,319 Yeah, I'm... 619 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,799 [sighs deeply] 620 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,799 I'm fascinating. 621 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,919 I'm interested in it 622 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,000 because what you think is more important to me than what is true, okay? 623 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,440 So, how do you feel about being ugly? 624 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,120 Well, how would you feel? 625 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,520 You don't know. 626 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,199 - You're not. You're dead pretty. - This isn't about me, Jamie. 627 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,599 - You don't think you're pretty? - I'm not the interesting person. 628 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,759 You don't think you're pretty? You do think I'm ugly? 629 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,359 I haven't passed judgement on either of those things. For very good reason. 630 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,599 - "For very good reason." - I want to understand you. 631 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,399 To understand my understanding of my understanding of my understanding. 632 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,319 Yes. 633 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,719 [sighs] 634 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,679 - The other bloke is much more easy. - Okay. 635 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,759 Him checking whether I understand was much easier. 636 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,720 - Whether I understand what I did. - They need two opinions for a reason. 637 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,119 Look, no, fuck off! I didn't fucking say that! 638 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,919 You're fucking putting words in me mouth! 639 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,399 - It's a fucking trap in here! You are... - [guard] Hey! Jamie! [knocks] 640 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,480 [Jamie panting] 641 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,800 What was that? 642 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Hey? 643 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,920 What the fuck was that? 644 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,240 Signaling him away like a fucking queen, yeah? 645 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,320 [calmly] I need you to sit down. 646 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,160 [shouts] 647 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,360 [chair clatters] 648 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,360 Fuck. 649 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,640 [under breath] Fuck. 650 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,280 Fuck. 651 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,120 [groans] 652 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,760 Fuck's sake. 653 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520 - Are you going to sit down? - Fuck off! 654 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,920 For fuck's sake. 655 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,880 [under breath] Fuck. Fuck. 656 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,919 [groans] 657 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000 [breathing nervously] 658 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,720 Are you done? 659 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,120 [sighs] 660 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,280 Fine. 661 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,320 I will fucking sit down. 662 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,680 You happy now? 663 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,440 Hey? 664 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,760 Well, are you going now? 665 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Are you going? 666 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,400 Would you like me to? 667 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,320 It's not up to me, is it? 668 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,760 If you want me to go, Jamie, I can go. 669 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,640 You said in one of our previous sessions that you had friends, Tommy and Ryan. 670 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,560 But that you wouldn't consider yourself popular. 671 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,920 [sighs] Yeah. 672 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,320 You said you were bullied. The three of you were bullied. 673 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,959 People like you love talking about bullying. 674 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,839 You said Tommy was called Round Pounds 675 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,279 because his mum did her shopping at Poundland. 676 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,759 Yeah, but she doesn't. 677 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,319 And Ryan was called dumb. 678 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,640 Ryan is dumb. 679 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,759 That one was sort of true. 680 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,799 - The three of you felt ostracized. - Big words coming out now. 681 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,999 You said sometimes this would get physical. 682 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,279 People would spit on you from classroom windows. 683 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160 You'd be tripped up and pushed. 684 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,799 [sighs] Yeah. 685 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,639 - You were called names, physically abused. - No. I was just tripped up and spat on. 686 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,520 My question, Jamie, is why do you have an Instagram account? 687 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,880 What? 688 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,160 - I... I need one. - Why? 689 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920 To look at other people's accounts. 690 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,080 You can't if you haven't got one. 691 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,280 Right. And you follow lots of women on Instagram. Models. 692 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Yeah. 693 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,399 You don't need to put photos up, though. Why do you? 694 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Put photos up of yourself, I mean? 695 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520 I dunno. Am I not allowed? 696 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,200 Yeah. 697 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,559 Is it to prove bullies wrong by showing the fun you have with Tommy and Ryan? 698 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,559 What? No. 699 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,559 To show the fun you have with your family? 700 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560 No way I'm putting anything up of them. 701 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,799 If you've seen that, it's because my sister tagged me. 702 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,599 Because you think someone might like one of your photos? 703 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,639 You might get into a conversation, make a new friend, meet a girl? 704 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680 What? No. What you on about? 705 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,720 [sighs] 706 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Katie commented on your photos on a number of different occasions. 707 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Uh, yeah. 708 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200 [hesitates] What are you doing? 709 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040 - What... What's this? - Budge up. 710 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,800 She wrote this. 711 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,359 No. Are... Are you allowed to ask these questions? 712 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,879 - Has Dillon passed these questions fit? - Yes. 713 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,520 [sighs, clears throat] 714 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,000 He has. I'm allowed to ask about intimacies, Jamie. 715 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,119 But if this makes you uncomfortable or you have any questions, 716 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,360 there are people in this facility that can help you. Okay? 717 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,840 [Jamie sighs] 718 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,680 Katie wrote this on your Facebook feed. 719 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Facebook? 720 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,240 Instagram. 721 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,080 Are you all right? 722 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,280 You look a bit red. 723 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Did I scare you when I shouted? 724 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,280 - She wrote this on your Instagram. - I mean, I'm only 13. 725 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,800 I don't think I look that scary. 726 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,760 - Could you tell me what these emojis are? - How embarrassing is that? 727 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,760 Getting scared of a 13-year-old. 728 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,280 Wow. 729 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,560 What do these emojis mean, Jamie? 730 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,880 What do the kidney beans mean? They're kidney beans, right? 731 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,560 She's pretending like I'm part of one of those truth groups. 732 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,720 What truth groups? 733 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,800 The ones that say that women don't want us and don't care. 734 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,239 - Are you part of those? - No. 735 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,799 But you know what they say? 736 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,440 Yeah, 'cause everyone kept on going on about it. 737 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,400 Incel stuff. So I had a look, but I didn't like it. 738 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,960 And was you being an incel what she was saying with all of these? 739 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,920 Yeah. 740 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,240 Could you explain them all? 741 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,200 [sighs] 742 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,560 [huffs] 743 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,039 Uh... want love, won't get it. 744 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,400 [clears throat] 745 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,639 My throat's killing. 746 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,399 Uh, red pill, exploding. 747 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600 [clears throat] That's the same as the red pill. 748 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,480 And then that's an 80-20 thing. 749 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,000 What's an 80-20 thing? 750 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,040 Where 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men. 751 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,720 [clears throat] But I do think they're right about that, though. 752 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,480 And lots of people liked her comments quite a lot. 753 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,600 Yeah, they thought it was funny. 754 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080 You must have found that quite cruel. 755 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,519 I suppose. 756 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,480 Did she do this to anyone else? 757 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200 - No. - Well, why did she do it to you? 758 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,840 Because... Because I'm ugly. 759 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,720 - You think that's why she did it to you? - Well, I'm the ugliest, I suppose, so... 760 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,840 Did you ever call her on it? 761 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,960 - Yeah. - What did you say? 762 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,239 I don't know. "I'm not what you say I am," or... 763 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:22,640 And what did she say? 764 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,960 [sighs] 765 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,520 She just... 766 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,320 She just smiled and said, "Okay," and walked away. 767 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,479 And you never thought to tell anyone? 768 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,159 - It's a bit late for that now. - That just must have hurt. 769 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,320 I didn't kill her. 770 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,359 You think I did because you've seen the video. You can't trust videos anymore. 771 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,599 It's all fake news. 772 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,760 - I'm not here to judge. - I didn't kill her. 773 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,559 She was a bitch. Even you can see that. 774 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,680 I should've killed her, but I didn't. I just... 775 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,679 [clears throat] 776 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,720 All... All I did... 777 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:57,360 [sighs] 778 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,480 All I did was... 779 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:03,360 [sighs] 780 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:05,840 [scoffs] 781 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,599 Look at ya. 782 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,280 All hopeful, like I'm gonna say something important. 783 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080 [scoffs, sighs] 784 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,560 All I did... 785 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000 I did ask her out... after the photo. 786 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,360 I went round and said I was sorry that they'd done that to her. 787 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,080 Showing everyone her tits. Her chest. 788 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040 And I wanted to know if she'd come to the fair with me. 789 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,800 You know, I just thought she might be weak, or that... 790 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,240 I just thought she might be weak, so... 791 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,479 [sighs] 792 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,239 'Cause everyone was calling her slag, 793 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,239 you know, or flat or whatever, 794 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,760 so I thought when she was, like, that, weak, 795 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840 she might... she might like me. 796 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,840 [sighs] 797 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,519 It's clever, don't you think? 798 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,080 To ask her out when everyone else didn't like her? 799 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,359 Well, I went round and said I was sorry and everything. 800 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,120 That Fidget was a wanker. 801 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,200 And I said I'd take her to the fair if she liked. 802 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960 Her weakness made her more gettable, was your theory? 803 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,000 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 804 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960 I thought you said you didn't like her. 805 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,840 Uh, she's flat. That's a fact. But I didn't mind that. That's okay. 806 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,880 I wore my best tracksuit I could find, and... 807 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,079 [sighs] 808 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,039 I don't even know why I'm telling you all this, but I just said, 809 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,759 "You wanna come to the fair?" 810 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,080 And what did she say? 811 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,920 [sighs] 812 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,520 She just... 813 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,920 She just laughed and said, "Oh, I'm not that desperate." 814 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,720 And the emoji messages came after that? 815 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,720 Uh, yeah. 816 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:57,199 She was, let's say, attacking you for presuming you could ask her out? 817 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,440 - Your words. - You think they're unfair? 818 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,600 [hesitates] You think she's a bitch, right? 819 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Doing all that. 820 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,800 You think she's a bullying bitch. 821 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,560 [sighs] 822 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,519 She was a bullying bitch, right? 823 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,999 But that's the thing, you see? 824 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,200 That night, I didn't touch her. 825 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960 I could've touched her, but I didn't. I just... 826 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560 I had a knife. She was scared. But I didn't do that. 827 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,720 I could have touched any part of her body. I really wanted to, but I didn't. I just... 828 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,000 Most boys would've touched her. 829 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,720 So that makes me better. 830 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:47,440 [softly] Don't you think? 831 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,160 [rain pattering on roof] 832 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,760 [sighs] 833 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,959 I didn't... I didn't mean any of that. I'm just tired. 834 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,599 I'm talking too much. I'm tired. I'm just... [sighs] 835 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,040 I'm so, so tired. 836 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,879 [sighs] I didn't kill her. 837 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,280 Jamie, do you understand what death is? 838 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,440 - What? - Do you understand what death is? 839 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,519 Yeah. 840 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,079 You understand that Katie's gone and she can't come back? 841 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,280 I didn't do it. 842 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,839 That whatever claims you make as to her character-- 843 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,200 - I didn't mean she was a bitch. - Whatever claims you make, she's gone. 844 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,519 That whoever did kill her, 845 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,240 they extinguished the possibility of her future life. 846 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,999 I didn't mean to be mean about her. She just did-- 847 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,360 - Jamie, listen. Do you understand? - She just didn't like me. 848 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,040 Yeah, I'm not dumb. 849 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,400 - Do you understand that murder is a crime? - Yeah. 850 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,319 You understand that if you're found guilty, you'll be held in detention? 851 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,240 - Who doesn't know that? - Understand who will make the decision? 852 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,360 - Judge. Jury. - Okay. 853 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,640 Jamie, this is our last session. 854 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,799 What? 855 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,839 - What I would encourage you to-- - No. Why? 856 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,719 Take advantage of any mental health services that are offered. 857 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,679 - No. Why? - I think you'll benefit. 858 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,119 - No, I won't. - Well, that's just what I think. 859 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,639 And then you come back. You see me? 860 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,840 Unfortunately, I'm needed elsewhere. 861 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,439 - It's just fucking done, is it? All of it? - I hope you take what I said seriously. 862 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,599 - Thanks for your time. I'll ask Frank-- - Thanks for my time? 863 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,279 - Frank! I'm grateful that you've spoken-- - You think I'm being honest? 864 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,399 - Are you gonna tell the judge? - I think you've spoken with honesty. 865 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,599 But all I'm advising the judge on is your understanding. 866 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,760 My understanding, yes. [sighs] 867 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,719 - It doesn't seem like a proper goodbye. - [Briony] It is. 868 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:18,879 - It doesn't seem like one. - [Frank] That's enough. 869 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,359 No, we haven't finished. 870 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,639 - We have. Thank you, Frank. - No, no! [sighs] 871 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,160 Can I ask you something? 872 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,800 Yes. 873 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,960 [sighs] 874 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,160 [hesitates] Do you like me? 875 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,279 - I was here as a professional, Jamie. - Don't you think like that, then? 876 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,319 - My job was to assess you. - Because I like you. 877 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,839 Not like that. Not fancying you. Just as a person. 878 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,679 - [guard] Okay, son, come on. - No, don't you even like me a bit? 879 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,560 What did you think about me, then? 880 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,679 - Decide, come on! - [Briony] This was really useful. 881 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,959 Don't you go fucking telling them what I did! 882 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,519 - Don't you dare! - Whoa, come on. 883 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,799 Don't you go fucking... Get the fuck off me! Don't you dare! 884 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,119 - Hey! - Fuck! 885 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,839 - Come on. Jamie, man, please. - Don't you even like me a bit? 886 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,999 Okay? Jamie, come on. 887 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,079 - What did you think about me, then? - Okay. 888 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,800 Just tell my dad I'm all right! 889 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,199 - Tell him that I'm okay! - [guard] Jamie, you're hurting yourself. 890 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,519 - [Jamie] Tell him that I'm all right! - [guard] Calm down. 891 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,839 [Jamie] Tell him I'm all right! 892 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,679 - Tell him I'm okay, please! - [guard shouting] 893 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,440 [whimpers, exhales shakily] 894 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,640 [sighs deeply] 895 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,480 [takes a slow, deep breath] 896 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,400 [crying softly] 897 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,480 [breath grows steady] 898 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,040 [sniffles] 899 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,879 [groans] 900 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,400 Oh God. 901 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,920 [huffs] 902 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,240 [sighs, sniffles] 903 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000 [somber instrumental music playing] 904 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,720 [rain pattering loudly] 905 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,560 [somber music continues] 67919

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