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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,624 --> 00:00:05,406 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:05,431 --> 00:00:06,617 the people are represented 3 00:00:06,642 --> 00:00:09,122 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:09,374 --> 00:00:11,201 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:11,226 --> 00:00:14,141 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:14,166 --> 00:00:15,648 These are their stories. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,392 You look great. 8 00:00:22,417 --> 00:00:23,939 Are you sure? 9 00:00:23,964 --> 00:00:25,051 I swear. 10 00:00:25,076 --> 00:00:26,833 You're perfect. 11 00:00:26,858 --> 00:00:27,988 Okay, people. 12 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:29,575 Places, everyone. 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,340 Places! 14 00:00:31,958 --> 00:00:33,223 Quiet on set! 15 00:00:34,257 --> 00:00:37,390 And action. 16 00:00:37,407 --> 00:00:39,016 My Best Defense. 17 00:00:39,017 --> 00:00:41,453 It literally does everything. 18 00:00:41,454 --> 00:00:45,849 Shields your skin from harmful UV rays, hides blemishes, 19 00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:48,722 leaves you looking and feeling flawless. 20 00:00:48,723 --> 00:00:51,681 Use it as part of your daily skincare routine. 21 00:00:51,682 --> 00:00:54,858 It's the only protection you'll ever need. 22 00:00:54,859 --> 00:00:56,599 And cut! 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,992 Beautiful. 24 00:00:57,993 --> 00:00:59,297 Let's reset and do it one more time. 25 00:01:00,909 --> 00:01:02,953 There's a guy downstairs looking for you. 26 00:01:10,701 --> 00:01:14,443 She's a kid. 27 00:01:14,444 --> 00:01:17,881 Can't be more than 16, 17. 28 00:01:17,882 --> 00:01:20,928 MLI says body temp and rigidity puts time of death 29 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:23,365 between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. 30 00:01:23,366 --> 00:01:24,888 We got a name? 31 00:01:24,889 --> 00:01:28,022 No. No wallet, no ID, no phone. 32 00:01:28,023 --> 00:01:30,067 Oh, boy. 33 00:01:30,068 --> 00:01:33,941 Looks like she went face first into this dumpster, huh? 34 00:01:33,942 --> 00:01:35,551 Yeah, she was strangled too. 35 00:01:35,552 --> 00:01:38,599 Got petechial hemorrhaging in her eyes, marks on her neck. 36 00:01:40,296 --> 00:01:42,950 Oh. 37 00:01:42,951 --> 00:01:44,995 Necktie. 38 00:01:44,996 --> 00:01:47,128 Make sure we get that to the lab and have that tested. 39 00:01:47,129 --> 00:01:51,872 Clothing still intact, so probably not a sexual assault. 40 00:01:51,873 --> 00:01:53,486 Who found the body? 41 00:01:53,511 --> 00:01:55,425 Maintenance guy from the flower shop nearby. 42 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:58,226 911 call came in at 8:07 p.m. 43 00:01:58,227 --> 00:01:59,793 You know, I noticed they had a camera. 44 00:01:59,794 --> 00:02:01,272 Let's make sure we get that footage, okay? 45 00:02:01,273 --> 00:02:03,318 Mm-hmm. 46 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:05,843 Somebody lost their child tonight. 47 00:02:07,845 --> 00:02:09,804 And they probably don't even know it. 48 00:03:01,133 --> 00:03:04,179 About an hour ago, I was taking out the trash. 49 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:05,963 I saw her legs. 50 00:03:05,964 --> 00:03:07,617 And then all of a sudden, a guy bolted 51 00:03:07,618 --> 00:03:09,401 from behind the dumpster. 52 00:03:09,402 --> 00:03:11,839 Which way did he go? 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,971 - Up towards that corner. - Thank you. 54 00:03:13,972 --> 00:03:15,146 You get a good look at him? 55 00:03:15,147 --> 00:03:19,237 Yeah, uh, white, thin, about 5'5". 56 00:03:19,238 --> 00:03:20,195 Hair color? 57 00:03:20,196 --> 00:03:21,631 Blond. 58 00:03:21,632 --> 00:03:23,198 And he was wearing a blue puffy jacket. 59 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:24,721 Okay. 60 00:03:24,722 --> 00:03:26,680 We're looking for a male, 5'5", thin, blond hair, 61 00:03:26,681 --> 00:03:28,333 wearing a blue jacket. 62 00:03:28,334 --> 00:03:30,553 Let's set up a perimeter north of Christopher, south of Bank. 63 00:03:30,554 --> 00:03:32,120 Let's go. 64 00:03:36,299 --> 00:03:38,127 Yeah, blue puffer. Hey, kid. 65 00:03:39,737 --> 00:03:41,433 Hey! Police! 66 00:03:42,653 --> 00:03:44,915 Kid, stop! 67 00:03:44,916 --> 00:03:46,047 NYPD! 68 00:03:46,048 --> 00:03:50,660 Hey! Stop! 69 00:03:50,661 --> 00:03:52,314 Hey! Do not move! 70 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:54,143 Keep your hands right there. 71 00:03:55,797 --> 00:03:57,275 Get on the van. 72 00:04:02,934 --> 00:04:04,282 That's nice. Where'd you get this? 73 00:04:04,283 --> 00:04:06,546 - I found it. - You found it, huh? Where? 74 00:04:06,547 --> 00:04:08,852 - In the trash. - In the trash. 75 00:04:08,853 --> 00:04:10,941 - How old are you? - 18. 76 00:04:10,942 --> 00:04:12,247 - Try again. - 15. 77 00:04:12,248 --> 00:04:13,596 15. 78 00:04:13,597 --> 00:04:16,033 He's 15. 79 00:04:16,034 --> 00:04:18,035 We recovered the murder weapon, 80 00:04:18,036 --> 00:04:21,038 and we're getting it tested for DNA. 81 00:04:21,039 --> 00:04:24,433 And if it's a match, that means life in prison. 82 00:04:24,434 --> 00:04:26,130 I didn't kill anyone, though. 83 00:04:26,131 --> 00:04:28,219 Does this kid look like he wears a necktie? 84 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:30,308 We got a witness that says they saw him running away 85 00:04:30,309 --> 00:04:31,571 from the dead woman's body. 86 00:04:31,572 --> 00:04:32,702 He was found with a very expensive 87 00:04:32,703 --> 00:04:34,051 piece of women's jewelry. 88 00:04:34,052 --> 00:04:35,618 Now, I'm willing to bet that we will 89 00:04:35,619 --> 00:04:37,402 be able to prove that that bracelet 90 00:04:37,403 --> 00:04:39,666 belongs to the dead girl. 91 00:04:39,667 --> 00:04:42,233 Yeah. 92 00:04:42,234 --> 00:04:43,713 I was looking for food. 93 00:04:43,714 --> 00:04:46,498 And she was already dead, so I took the bracelet. 94 00:04:46,499 --> 00:04:48,588 All right, and how about her phone and her wallet? 95 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:51,242 That's all there was. 96 00:04:51,243 --> 00:04:52,288 I swear. 97 00:04:54,682 --> 00:04:57,074 You living on the street? 98 00:04:57,075 --> 00:04:59,164 His mother has a problem with drugs. 99 00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:03,428 How about your father? 100 00:05:03,429 --> 00:05:04,691 I don't have one. 101 00:05:11,655 --> 00:05:13,438 All right. 102 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:15,616 We will be right back. 103 00:05:23,885 --> 00:05:25,929 Did the kid's story check out? 104 00:05:25,930 --> 00:05:27,452 Got video from the flower shop 105 00:05:27,453 --> 00:05:28,758 that was near the crime scene. 106 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:30,412 Check this out. 107 00:05:30,413 --> 00:05:32,153 So that is our victim 108 00:05:32,154 --> 00:05:34,372 27 minutes before the maintenance guy found her. 109 00:05:34,373 --> 00:05:36,853 But keep watching. It gets interesting. 110 00:05:36,854 --> 00:05:39,595 Whoever the mystery man is, he drags her 111 00:05:39,596 --> 00:05:40,770 in the direction of the dumpster, 112 00:05:40,771 --> 00:05:42,642 where the body was found. 113 00:05:42,643 --> 00:05:45,079 And then... 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,299 24 minutes later, there's Joey walking towards the dumpster... 115 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:49,736 no cameras back there. 116 00:05:49,737 --> 00:05:52,303 Then three minutes later, he comes back out 117 00:05:52,304 --> 00:05:53,391 with the vic's bracelet. 118 00:05:53,392 --> 00:05:54,654 He's telling the truth. 119 00:05:54,655 --> 00:05:56,873 Okay, call Social Services. - Already did. 120 00:05:56,874 --> 00:05:58,788 Uh, how'd you make out at Missing Persons? 121 00:05:58,789 --> 00:06:01,008 I cross-checked all the new reports. 122 00:06:01,009 --> 00:06:02,226 No luck. 123 00:06:02,227 --> 00:06:03,706 Facial rec? 124 00:06:03,707 --> 00:06:06,013 Flower shop footage is too grainy. 125 00:06:06,014 --> 00:06:07,579 This is the only other photo we have of her, 126 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:11,018 and her face is too messed up to make a comparison. 127 00:06:11,019 --> 00:06:12,673 Poor kid. 128 00:06:14,892 --> 00:06:17,372 The victim's DNA is on the necktie, 129 00:06:17,373 --> 00:06:19,374 along with someone else's. 130 00:06:19,375 --> 00:06:21,202 You run it through the database? 131 00:06:21,203 --> 00:06:24,771 It's not in the system, so we can eliminate convicted felons. 132 00:06:24,772 --> 00:06:27,034 Anything else? 133 00:06:27,035 --> 00:06:29,297 Well, it's likely a Caucasian male, 134 00:06:29,298 --> 00:06:32,866 but there's no shared genetic makeup with the victim. 135 00:06:32,867 --> 00:06:35,738 So we can eliminate biological family members. 136 00:06:35,739 --> 00:06:36,957 Well, that only leaves us 137 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,306 with a few hundred million suspects. 138 00:06:38,307 --> 00:06:39,786 Yeah. 139 00:06:39,787 --> 00:06:41,265 Well, in the more bad news department, 140 00:06:41,266 --> 00:06:42,919 I still haven't been able to determine 141 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,573 this victim's identity. 142 00:06:44,574 --> 00:06:45,574 I can't believe her parents 143 00:06:45,575 --> 00:06:47,097 haven't reported her missing yet. 144 00:06:47,098 --> 00:06:48,142 I know. 145 00:06:48,143 --> 00:06:49,274 - Thank you. - Yeah. 146 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,106 Vince, I need you guys to go back and canvass the area 147 00:06:56,107 --> 00:06:59,066 around the crime scene, see if anybody can identify 148 00:06:59,067 --> 00:07:00,458 the picture of the vic. 149 00:07:00,459 --> 00:07:02,025 Have you seen this woman? 150 00:07:02,026 --> 00:07:03,071 Sorry. 151 00:07:05,073 --> 00:07:07,248 - Any luck? - None. 152 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:09,859 Excuse me, miss? 153 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:11,382 Have you seen this woman? 154 00:07:11,383 --> 00:07:14,081 Yeah, I've seen her around the neighborhood. 155 00:07:14,082 --> 00:07:15,560 Do you know her name? 156 00:07:15,561 --> 00:07:17,171 I've got ten preschool kids to keep an eye on. 157 00:07:17,172 --> 00:07:18,825 I don't really have time to socialize. 158 00:07:18,826 --> 00:07:20,958 How about yesterday? You see her yesterday? 159 00:07:22,612 --> 00:07:24,004 Yeah. 160 00:07:24,005 --> 00:07:26,049 She was with a guy, and he was yelling at her. 161 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:27,529 Could you hear what he was saying? 162 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:29,052 No. 163 00:07:29,053 --> 00:07:30,575 What time was this? 164 00:07:30,576 --> 00:07:34,231 Well, I was on my way home from work, so around 4:30. 165 00:07:34,232 --> 00:07:37,191 And this guy, had you ever seen him before? 166 00:07:37,192 --> 00:07:38,366 No, sorry. 167 00:07:38,367 --> 00:07:39,976 Can you describe what he looked like? 168 00:07:39,977 --> 00:07:44,807 Uh, white, medium build, medium height, bald. 169 00:07:44,808 --> 00:07:46,374 How old was he? 170 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:49,812 Old. Like, 50? 171 00:07:49,813 --> 00:07:52,119 Oh, and he was smoking a cigarette. 172 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,686 Can you show us where he was standing? 173 00:07:54,687 --> 00:07:55,775 Thank you. 174 00:07:58,343 --> 00:08:00,431 I don't see any cigarette butts. 175 00:08:00,432 --> 00:08:01,737 Mm. 176 00:08:01,738 --> 00:08:04,522 Here we go. 177 00:08:04,523 --> 00:08:06,394 It's a long shot. 178 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:08,570 Maybe we can get some prints off the box. 179 00:08:08,571 --> 00:08:10,572 I'll call the lab, see if they can rush it. 180 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:12,052 Yeah, if we can't get him on murder, 181 00:08:12,053 --> 00:08:13,881 maybe we can get him for littering. 182 00:08:16,361 --> 00:08:18,275 Mr. Paven, NYPD. 183 00:08:18,276 --> 00:08:20,451 Need to ask you a few questions. 184 00:08:20,452 --> 00:08:21,496 Hey, what's up? 185 00:08:21,497 --> 00:08:22,541 You know this woman? 186 00:08:25,370 --> 00:08:26,544 What'd she say? 187 00:08:26,545 --> 00:08:27,937 - Nothing now. - You got a gun on you? 188 00:08:27,938 --> 00:08:29,721 - Yeah. - Hands on the car. 189 00:08:29,722 --> 00:08:30,810 Oh, wait, man! 190 00:08:30,811 --> 00:08:31,941 But the gun is legal. 191 00:08:31,942 --> 00:08:34,161 All right? I'm on the job. 192 00:08:34,162 --> 00:08:35,466 You're a limo driver. 193 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:37,381 Yeah, I also work private security. 194 00:08:37,382 --> 00:08:40,080 Yeah, well, if everything checks out, you'll get it back. 195 00:08:40,081 --> 00:08:41,603 Come on. - I'm not going anywhere, man. 196 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:43,039 My client is in that building. 197 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,999 Tell him he's gotta find another ride. 198 00:08:48,545 --> 00:08:50,590 Is this really necessary? 199 00:08:51,415 --> 00:08:53,982 Look, whatever that bitch said, it is a lie. 200 00:08:53,983 --> 00:08:57,321 You've got a lot of anger towards this young woman... 201 00:08:57,346 --> 00:08:58,704 girl... 202 00:08:59,637 --> 00:09:00,637 and she's dead. 203 00:09:03,087 --> 00:09:06,002 And we have a witness who saw you bullying her a few hours 204 00:09:06,027 --> 00:09:07,563 before she was killed. 205 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:11,613 Now, why were you, a grown man, yelling at a teenage girl 206 00:09:11,614 --> 00:09:13,528 on the sidewalk? 207 00:09:13,529 --> 00:09:16,444 Maybe I should have a lawyer here or something. 208 00:09:16,445 --> 00:09:19,272 That's fine by me. 209 00:09:19,273 --> 00:09:21,405 In the meantime, I'm going to confiscate your gun. 210 00:09:21,406 --> 00:09:23,146 Wait, look, I need that for work. 211 00:09:23,147 --> 00:09:24,234 I've got a license for it. 212 00:09:24,235 --> 00:09:25,540 You can't just take that from me. 213 00:09:25,541 --> 00:09:27,193 Yes, I can. 214 00:09:27,194 --> 00:09:29,239 You're a person of interest in a murder case. 215 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,241 You're refusing to cooperate with the police. 216 00:09:31,242 --> 00:09:32,329 As far as I'm concerned, that makes you 217 00:09:32,330 --> 00:09:34,549 a threat to public safety. 218 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:36,333 H... hold on. 219 00:09:36,334 --> 00:09:37,553 Look. 220 00:09:39,642 --> 00:09:43,122 My son, all right, he follows that girl on social media. 221 00:09:43,123 --> 00:09:45,168 She was pushing some new sports drink. 222 00:09:45,169 --> 00:09:46,691 You know, said that it would make him strong 223 00:09:46,692 --> 00:09:48,867 and full of energy or some bull like that. 224 00:09:48,868 --> 00:09:50,391 I mean, this girl made it a contest. 225 00:09:50,392 --> 00:09:52,175 How many can you drink in a row? 226 00:09:52,176 --> 00:09:55,221 So my kid ended up downing, like, five of them 227 00:09:55,222 --> 00:09:56,527 in less than an hour. 228 00:09:56,528 --> 00:09:58,137 And there was so much caffeine in it 229 00:09:58,138 --> 00:10:00,575 that he ended up having a freaking heart attack. 230 00:10:00,576 --> 00:10:02,491 I'm serious, all right? He almost died. 231 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:06,494 How did you find her? 232 00:10:06,495 --> 00:10:08,800 That girl posted, like, everything she did, 233 00:10:08,801 --> 00:10:10,759 literally everything. 234 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,152 So I knew that she was doing a commercial. 235 00:10:13,153 --> 00:10:14,937 She even said the name of the studio. 236 00:10:14,938 --> 00:10:16,591 So I looked it up, went down there, 237 00:10:16,592 --> 00:10:18,506 and, you know, I had a little talk with her. 238 00:10:18,507 --> 00:10:21,813 Okay, where were you between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. last night? 239 00:10:21,814 --> 00:10:23,337 I was in Jersey with a client. 240 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:26,775 I can give you his contact info if you need. 241 00:10:26,776 --> 00:10:28,951 Yeah, I'm gonna need the name of the young woman 242 00:10:28,952 --> 00:10:30,126 you accosted. 243 00:10:32,477 --> 00:10:34,174 Kaitlyn was so special. 244 00:10:36,176 --> 00:10:40,876 She's beautiful, inside and out. 245 00:10:40,877 --> 00:10:44,836 I've gotta ask, is there a reason 246 00:10:44,837 --> 00:10:46,621 that you didn't report your daughter missing? 247 00:10:46,622 --> 00:10:48,710 She didn't live here. We didn't know. 248 00:10:48,711 --> 00:10:50,973 She doesn't live here anymore. 249 00:10:50,974 --> 00:10:53,236 She was 17? 250 00:10:53,237 --> 00:10:54,673 Yeah, um... 251 00:10:56,545 --> 00:10:59,590 She's a... a... 252 00:10:59,591 --> 00:11:00,722 she was a model, 253 00:11:00,723 --> 00:11:03,115 so she lived with a group of models. 254 00:11:03,116 --> 00:11:05,161 No school? 255 00:11:05,162 --> 00:11:07,424 She graduated early. 256 00:11:07,425 --> 00:11:09,339 But we're still very much involved. 257 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:12,212 We... we spoke to her every night. 258 00:11:14,650 --> 00:11:15,867 Just not last night. 259 00:11:15,868 --> 00:11:20,524 We were at a premiere, Michelle's premiere. 260 00:11:20,525 --> 00:11:24,920 She's a... she's a film director. 261 00:11:24,921 --> 00:11:27,184 I promised my daughter I'd take her this weekend. 262 00:11:28,707 --> 00:11:33,189 Was Kaitlyn having any problems with anyone? 263 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:38,020 She... She had a boyfriend. 264 00:11:38,021 --> 00:11:39,761 He's... he's a little older. 265 00:11:39,762 --> 00:11:41,110 They were in the process of breaking up. 266 00:11:49,946 --> 00:11:52,774 Who the hell lets their daughter live alone at 17? 267 00:11:52,775 --> 00:11:54,036 What do you mean? 268 00:11:54,037 --> 00:11:56,081 Kids leave for college all the time at 18. 269 00:11:56,082 --> 00:11:58,083 Same thing. - No, no, no. 270 00:11:58,084 --> 00:12:00,259 Big difference between 17 and 18. 271 00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:03,698 And college is filled with college kids, you know? 272 00:12:03,699 --> 00:12:05,308 You gotta let them fly at some point, bro. 273 00:12:05,309 --> 00:12:07,092 All I know is, when my daughter turns 17, 274 00:12:07,093 --> 00:12:09,225 she's not shacking up with some 20-year-old dude named Dylan. 275 00:12:12,185 --> 00:12:14,970 She's dead? 276 00:12:14,971 --> 00:12:16,406 Oh. 277 00:12:16,407 --> 00:12:18,452 That's, like, surreal. 278 00:12:20,237 --> 00:12:21,237 Yeah. 279 00:12:21,238 --> 00:12:22,891 Uh, hey, hey, Dylan. 280 00:12:22,892 --> 00:12:24,283 Yeah? 281 00:12:24,284 --> 00:12:25,589 Are you planning on going somewhere? 282 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:27,722 I just got back from Paris. 283 00:12:27,723 --> 00:12:29,811 I was there for a magazine shoot. 284 00:12:29,812 --> 00:12:32,465 When's the last time you spoke to Kaitlyn? 285 00:12:32,466 --> 00:12:35,033 I texted her last night at 8:00 when I landed at JFK. 286 00:12:35,034 --> 00:12:36,774 Never heard back. 287 00:12:36,775 --> 00:12:38,254 Did that surprise you? 288 00:12:38,255 --> 00:12:40,256 We've been fighting a lot. 289 00:12:40,257 --> 00:12:42,476 About what? 290 00:12:44,174 --> 00:12:46,001 She was cheating on me. 291 00:12:46,002 --> 00:12:47,611 What makes you say that? 292 00:12:47,612 --> 00:12:49,395 She'd been acting all weird, spending a lot of time 293 00:12:49,396 --> 00:12:51,746 with other people. 294 00:12:51,747 --> 00:12:57,447 And she didn't wanna be, you know, intimate. 295 00:12:57,448 --> 00:12:59,450 Any idea who she was seeing? 296 00:13:04,586 --> 00:13:05,934 Can you show us her room? 297 00:13:14,726 --> 00:13:16,988 This her laptop? 298 00:13:16,989 --> 00:13:18,469 You know the password? 299 00:13:29,872 --> 00:13:31,612 Two hours before the murder, she googled 300 00:13:31,613 --> 00:13:33,657 the address of Daisy's Donuts. 301 00:13:33,658 --> 00:13:35,311 Four blocks from the murder scene. 302 00:13:35,312 --> 00:13:36,486 Looks like they make a hell of a cruller, 303 00:13:36,487 --> 00:13:37,835 I'll give them that. 304 00:13:37,836 --> 00:13:40,185 Does anyone remember seeing Kaitlyn? 305 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:42,013 - Nope. - Did they have cameras? 306 00:13:42,014 --> 00:13:43,667 They weren't working. 307 00:13:43,668 --> 00:13:46,496 Manager just emailed me the credit card receipts. 308 00:13:46,497 --> 00:13:47,857 Is her boyfriend's name in there? 309 00:13:49,805 --> 00:13:52,328 I don't see it. 310 00:13:52,329 --> 00:13:53,547 This is interesting, though. 311 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:01,424 Did you find something? 312 00:14:01,425 --> 00:14:02,730 Do you know who killed my daughter? 313 00:14:02,731 --> 00:14:04,296 We need to speak to your husband right now. 314 00:14:04,297 --> 00:14:05,994 Is he here? - Yes, yes. Of course. 315 00:14:05,995 --> 00:14:07,387 Come in. He's... 316 00:14:10,782 --> 00:14:12,174 What's going on? 317 00:14:12,175 --> 00:14:14,263 Do you guys have an update? - We do. 318 00:14:14,264 --> 00:14:16,395 We can talk about it down at the precinct. 319 00:14:16,396 --> 00:14:17,875 Now? 320 00:14:17,876 --> 00:14:19,224 Right now. 321 00:14:19,225 --> 00:14:21,487 It's a little late in the day. 322 00:14:21,488 --> 00:14:23,185 Couldn't we do this first thing in the morning? 323 00:14:23,186 --> 00:14:24,795 No, this can't wait. 324 00:14:24,796 --> 00:14:27,537 And we would prefer to do it in our office. 325 00:14:27,538 --> 00:14:30,366 So we need you to come with us. 326 00:14:30,367 --> 00:14:32,237 I don't understand. What's the problem? 327 00:14:32,238 --> 00:14:33,674 Am I under arrest? 328 00:14:33,675 --> 00:14:34,936 We're giving you an opportunity 329 00:14:34,937 --> 00:14:37,068 to come in voluntarily. 330 00:14:37,069 --> 00:14:38,069 But if not... 331 00:14:41,944 --> 00:14:43,771 I guess so. 332 00:14:48,901 --> 00:14:51,832 We've got a credit card receipt that puts you 333 00:14:51,857 --> 00:14:54,206 in a café a few blocks from the crime scene 334 00:14:54,231 --> 00:14:56,196 a half hour before Kaitlyn was killed. 335 00:14:56,242 --> 00:14:59,178 And Kaitlyn just happened to google the address of that café 336 00:14:59,203 --> 00:15:00,694 a couple hours before she was killed. 337 00:15:00,719 --> 00:15:02,624 And we got surveillance video from a flower shop 338 00:15:02,649 --> 00:15:05,241 down the block that picked you up after you left the café. 339 00:15:05,266 --> 00:15:07,638 It shows a man who looks a lot like you 340 00:15:07,708 --> 00:15:09,566 grabbing Kaitlyn by the arm and pushing her 341 00:15:09,591 --> 00:15:11,110 in the direction of the crime scene. 342 00:15:11,135 --> 00:15:13,397 And you told us that you didn't talk to Kaitlyn 343 00:15:13,398 --> 00:15:14,659 the day that she was murdered. 344 00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:16,835 Isn't that right? - Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah. 345 00:15:16,836 --> 00:15:19,359 You lied about your alibi, too, didn't you? 346 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,839 Said you were at a movie premiere? 347 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,493 No, I was... 348 00:15:22,494 --> 00:15:24,364 I was at the premiere. 349 00:15:24,365 --> 00:15:25,496 Really. 350 00:15:25,497 --> 00:15:27,280 Well, the time stamp on the bill here 351 00:15:27,281 --> 00:15:29,805 says that you paid six minutes after the movie started. 352 00:15:29,806 --> 00:15:31,458 So help me out here. - Correct. 353 00:15:31,459 --> 00:15:33,678 I had coffee with my daughter, and then I went to the movie. 354 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:36,116 I got there late. - Hmm. 355 00:15:42,732 --> 00:15:46,169 Here's me and Michelle at the theater. 356 00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:48,606 That corroborates my client's alibi. 357 00:15:48,607 --> 00:15:51,087 The theater is, like, 15 minutes from the crime scene. 358 00:15:51,088 --> 00:15:53,567 He could have killed Kaitlyn and gotten back to the theater 359 00:15:53,568 --> 00:15:54,830 before the movie was over. 360 00:15:54,831 --> 00:15:56,266 Still, I'm confused. 361 00:15:56,267 --> 00:15:58,181 Didn't the ME tell you the DNA on the murder weapon 362 00:15:58,182 --> 00:16:01,314 didn't come from anyone in Kaitlyn's family? 363 00:16:01,315 --> 00:16:04,709 The ME said that the killer's DNA profile 364 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:07,364 didn't share any genetic similarities 365 00:16:07,365 --> 00:16:08,931 with the victim. 366 00:16:08,932 --> 00:16:10,802 He's not Kaitlyn's biological father? 367 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:12,543 According to family court records, 368 00:16:12,544 --> 00:16:16,373 Ron adopted Kaitlyn after he married Michelle 369 00:16:16,374 --> 00:16:18,592 about ten years ago. 370 00:16:18,593 --> 00:16:21,204 Can I go home now? 371 00:16:21,205 --> 00:16:22,727 No. 372 00:16:22,728 --> 00:16:24,250 We have a few more questions. 373 00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:26,383 Hold him while you get a warrant for his DNA. 374 00:16:26,384 --> 00:16:28,734 If it matches the necktie, charge him with murder. 375 00:16:37,308 --> 00:16:39,744 Calling docket ending in 5912, 376 00:16:39,745 --> 00:16:41,790 People v. Ronald Lawson, 377 00:16:41,791 --> 00:16:44,793 charging murder in the second degree. 378 00:16:44,794 --> 00:16:45,881 How do you plead, sir? 379 00:16:45,882 --> 00:16:47,752 My client pleads not guilty. 380 00:16:47,753 --> 00:16:49,493 I'll hear the People on bail. 381 00:16:49,494 --> 00:16:52,278 The victim in this case is the defendant's daughter. 382 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:54,237 The evidence shows that Mr. Lawson 383 00:16:54,238 --> 00:16:58,241 pushed her into a dumpster, causing a severe head wound. 384 00:16:58,242 --> 00:17:00,634 Then, as she lay bleeding on the pavement, 385 00:17:00,635 --> 00:17:02,941 he strangled her with his necktie. 386 00:17:02,942 --> 00:17:05,988 We have video and credit card statement 387 00:17:05,989 --> 00:17:07,772 putting him near the crime scene. 388 00:17:07,773 --> 00:17:09,861 His DNA is on the weapon. 389 00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:12,429 We'd submit that he's a danger to the community 390 00:17:12,430 --> 00:17:14,779 and a flight risk. People request remand. 391 00:17:14,780 --> 00:17:17,434 The only thing worse than losing your child, Your Honor, 392 00:17:17,435 --> 00:17:19,479 is losing your child and then being falsely 393 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,003 accused of killing her. 394 00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:24,528 The People have no case, no motive, no eyewitnesses. 395 00:17:24,529 --> 00:17:27,661 My client is a respected member of his community. 396 00:17:27,662 --> 00:17:29,968 My client's wife, Michelle Burns, 397 00:17:29,969 --> 00:17:31,578 who is also the victim's mother, 398 00:17:31,579 --> 00:17:34,581 has signed an affidavit affirming that 399 00:17:34,582 --> 00:17:37,236 they were at a movie premiere at the time of the murder. 400 00:17:37,237 --> 00:17:38,629 It was a three-hour film. 401 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:41,197 He had more than enough time to kill his daughter 402 00:17:41,198 --> 00:17:42,938 and saunter back into the theater 403 00:17:42,939 --> 00:17:44,984 to enjoy his wife's movie. 404 00:17:47,334 --> 00:17:49,510 The bail is set at 20 million. 405 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:53,731 Don't worry, I got you. 406 00:17:53,732 --> 00:17:54,907 Okay? 407 00:18:01,174 --> 00:18:03,872 The victim's mother posted bail for the killer? 408 00:18:03,873 --> 00:18:05,525 It was a first for me as well. 409 00:18:05,526 --> 00:18:08,964 She also doubled down on her husband's so-called alibi. 410 00:18:08,965 --> 00:18:11,270 She obviously believes in Lawson's innocence. 411 00:18:11,271 --> 00:18:12,750 Are we sure we got the right guy? 412 00:18:12,751 --> 00:18:14,491 Yeah, evidence is strong. 413 00:18:14,492 --> 00:18:15,797 What about motive? 414 00:18:15,798 --> 00:18:17,320 Why would Lawson kill his own child? 415 00:18:17,321 --> 00:18:20,018 That is the one missing piece. 416 00:18:20,019 --> 00:18:22,107 Have we done a deep dive into their texts, emails? 417 00:18:22,108 --> 00:18:24,414 Well, I just finished, actually, 418 00:18:24,415 --> 00:18:26,242 and, uh, I think we have the answer. 419 00:18:26,243 --> 00:18:28,548 Kaitlyn made a video, was supposed to go live 420 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:30,463 the day she was killed. 421 00:18:30,464 --> 00:18:31,725 It's horrific. 422 00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:40,125 My father, Ron Lawson... 423 00:18:40,126 --> 00:18:42,519 sexually abused me. 424 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,524 It started when I was 14, and he's still doing it. 425 00:18:47,525 --> 00:18:50,179 I know it sounds weird, but, uh, 426 00:18:50,180 --> 00:18:53,660 at first, it made me feel special. 427 00:18:53,661 --> 00:18:57,012 I actually thought I was in love with him. 428 00:18:57,013 --> 00:19:00,189 But recently, I... I started to realize 429 00:19:00,190 --> 00:19:06,021 how horrible and abusive it actually is. 430 00:19:06,022 --> 00:19:07,675 So... 431 00:19:10,156 --> 00:19:12,897 I told him to stop. 432 00:19:12,898 --> 00:19:15,726 He wouldn't. 433 00:19:15,727 --> 00:19:19,034 So, um, I told my mother. 434 00:19:19,035 --> 00:19:23,474 But she wasn't... she wasn't able to help. 435 00:19:25,606 --> 00:19:30,915 That's why I'm making this video, 436 00:19:30,916 --> 00:19:34,266 to tell the world my truth. 437 00:19:34,267 --> 00:19:36,442 The defendant killed Kaitlyn Lawson 438 00:19:36,443 --> 00:19:38,227 because he was afraid of exposure. 439 00:19:38,228 --> 00:19:40,490 He didn't want the world to know 440 00:19:40,491 --> 00:19:45,103 his disgusting, perverted secret. 441 00:19:45,104 --> 00:19:48,846 The evidence will show that he invited her to a café, 442 00:19:48,847 --> 00:19:51,240 where he tried to talk her out of posting the video. 443 00:19:51,241 --> 00:19:54,373 When she refused, he grabbed her by the arm 444 00:19:54,374 --> 00:19:56,419 and dragged her behind a flower shop. 445 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:59,770 He shoved her face-first into a dumpster, 446 00:19:59,771 --> 00:20:05,645 and then he used his necktie to strangle the life out of her. 447 00:20:05,646 --> 00:20:10,259 Ron Lawson thought by killing Kaitlyn, 448 00:20:10,260 --> 00:20:13,524 his secret would be safe, but... 449 00:20:15,743 --> 00:20:20,051 But now we all know what Kaitlyn knew. 450 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:22,271 The defendant is a pedophile. 451 00:20:22,272 --> 00:20:25,230 He is also a killer. 452 00:20:25,231 --> 00:20:30,453 And he must answer to that. 453 00:20:30,454 --> 00:20:32,716 We're going to take a brief recess. 454 00:20:32,717 --> 00:20:34,848 I'll see you all back here in 20 minutes. 455 00:20:47,601 --> 00:20:49,951 Get back! Get back! 456 00:20:49,952 --> 00:20:50,995 Stay... 457 00:20:50,996 --> 00:20:52,040 No, no, no, no! 458 00:20:52,041 --> 00:20:53,911 Back! 459 00:20:53,912 --> 00:20:55,739 Hey. Ron, put the gun down! 460 00:20:55,740 --> 00:20:57,871 Put it down! 461 00:20:57,872 --> 00:21:00,483 Do not do anything stupid. 462 00:21:00,484 --> 00:21:02,094 Put it down. 463 00:21:05,489 --> 00:21:06,968 No, no, no! 464 00:21:19,402 --> 00:21:21,098 - That was... - Yeah. 465 00:21:21,123 --> 00:21:22,468 I don't even know how to process it. 466 00:21:22,493 --> 00:21:23,885 Everybody okay? 467 00:21:23,983 --> 00:21:27,159 I'm just glad no one else was hurt. 468 00:21:32,179 --> 00:21:34,688 Where do we go from here? 469 00:21:34,689 --> 00:21:36,211 I presume you're gonna file a motion 470 00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:37,561 to dismiss the charges? 471 00:21:37,562 --> 00:21:38,997 Yeah, we'll have to. 472 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:41,391 Well, bastard got off easy, if you ask me. 473 00:21:41,392 --> 00:21:43,131 Now nobody gets held accountable. 474 00:21:43,132 --> 00:21:47,092 Maybe we should look into the mother. 475 00:21:47,093 --> 00:21:49,007 Well, unfortunately, posting bail 476 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:50,661 for your abusive husband isn't a crime. 477 00:21:50,662 --> 00:21:52,140 She didn't just post bail. 478 00:21:52,141 --> 00:21:54,055 She was aware that her daughter was being abused, 479 00:21:54,056 --> 00:21:55,187 and she did nothing to protect her. 480 00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:56,797 She just let it happen. 481 00:21:56,798 --> 00:21:59,322 Hard to imagine. 482 00:21:59,323 --> 00:22:01,411 Is there a reason she just looked the other way? 483 00:22:01,412 --> 00:22:03,151 Oh, no idea. 484 00:22:03,152 --> 00:22:04,892 Makes no sense to me. 485 00:22:04,893 --> 00:22:08,069 Her movies are all about female empowerment 486 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:09,636 and gender equality. 487 00:22:09,637 --> 00:22:10,855 So what do you wanna do? 488 00:22:10,856 --> 00:22:12,639 I wanna charge her with endangering 489 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,119 the welfare of a child. 490 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,121 Can we prove Michelle had knowledge of the abuse? 491 00:22:16,122 --> 00:22:17,731 We have Kaitlyn's video. 492 00:22:17,732 --> 00:22:19,994 Maybe. 493 00:22:19,995 --> 00:22:21,387 If we offer it for the truth, 494 00:22:21,388 --> 00:22:24,477 it'll likely be excluded as hearsay. 495 00:22:24,478 --> 00:22:26,045 But I'm with you, Nolan. 496 00:22:27,525 --> 00:22:30,004 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 497 00:22:30,005 --> 00:22:32,225 and she didn't, and now the girl's dead, so. 498 00:22:34,532 --> 00:22:35,967 Talk to Brady. 499 00:22:35,968 --> 00:22:37,882 Maybe she can figure out a way to get Michelle to admit 500 00:22:37,883 --> 00:22:39,144 she knew what was going on 501 00:22:39,145 --> 00:22:40,425 between her husband and Kaitlyn. 502 00:22:44,846 --> 00:22:46,020 - Michelle. - Oh. 503 00:22:46,021 --> 00:22:47,413 - Hi. - Hi. 504 00:22:47,414 --> 00:22:49,241 Thanks so much for coming in. 505 00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:51,852 Do you want a coffee or water or something? 506 00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:54,072 No. No, thank you. 507 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:57,467 Well, I can't imagine what you're going through. 508 00:22:57,468 --> 00:22:59,686 Yeah, it's, uh... 509 00:22:59,687 --> 00:23:02,515 it's been a long few days. 510 00:23:02,516 --> 00:23:04,125 I'm really very sorry, but I won't 511 00:23:04,126 --> 00:23:05,518 take up much of your time. 512 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:08,566 I just... I just need to tie up a few loose ends. 513 00:23:11,569 --> 00:23:12,570 Have a seat. 514 00:23:16,965 --> 00:23:20,533 Some of Kaitlyn's personal effects. 515 00:23:20,534 --> 00:23:25,059 I thought they might be of some sentimental value. 516 00:23:25,060 --> 00:23:28,280 You can take them if you want. 517 00:23:28,281 --> 00:23:30,152 I just need you to sign that form. 518 00:23:36,463 --> 00:23:38,944 I have a lot of respect for your work. 519 00:23:40,467 --> 00:23:43,426 I think your movies are very powerful, 520 00:23:43,427 --> 00:23:45,863 and they remind me of Alice Munro. 521 00:23:45,864 --> 00:23:50,258 I know she's a novelist, but, um... 522 00:23:50,259 --> 00:23:52,436 I really admire her work as well. 523 00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:58,658 Yeah, you two have a lot in common. 524 00:23:58,659 --> 00:24:02,009 I mean, you're both feminists that wanted to raise 525 00:24:02,010 --> 00:24:04,978 strong, opinionated daughters, and... 526 00:24:05,003 --> 00:24:06,572 And both stayed with men 527 00:24:06,597 --> 00:24:08,861 even after we knew about their failings? 528 00:24:11,176 --> 00:24:14,091 Well, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 529 00:24:14,116 --> 00:24:15,378 I know. 530 00:24:17,751 --> 00:24:19,839 I'm not here to judge, Michelle, really. 531 00:24:19,864 --> 00:24:23,823 Honestly, I'm just trying to tie up some loose ends. 532 00:24:23,848 --> 00:24:26,285 But now that you mention it, actually, I'm... 533 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:28,051 I must say, I'm curious. 534 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:31,821 About what? 535 00:24:33,410 --> 00:24:37,761 Well, you're a brilliant and talented woman, 536 00:24:37,786 --> 00:24:40,570 a powerful woman. 537 00:24:40,595 --> 00:24:44,120 I... I... I just don't see how you could 538 00:24:44,145 --> 00:24:46,930 sit there and let that happen. 539 00:24:49,051 --> 00:24:52,148 I suppose I felt the same way Alice did. 540 00:24:52,804 --> 00:24:54,326 You know, I love them both very much, 541 00:24:54,351 --> 00:24:58,413 and I suppose I decided that it was their business, 542 00:24:58,438 --> 00:25:01,266 and it wasn't my place to get involved. 543 00:25:03,578 --> 00:25:05,014 Not your place? 544 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:08,955 Well, I know on some level, yes. 545 00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:11,764 I mean, if you eliminate patriarchal norms 546 00:25:11,789 --> 00:25:15,357 and expectations, why should I be expected to dismiss 547 00:25:15,382 --> 00:25:18,471 my own wants and desires, 548 00:25:18,496 --> 00:25:20,453 or even worse, dismiss those wants 549 00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:22,741 and desires for my child? 550 00:25:24,717 --> 00:25:27,765 So you knew about the video Kaitlyn made? 551 00:25:27,790 --> 00:25:29,343 Yes. 552 00:25:30,435 --> 00:25:33,176 And what about your husband? Did he know? 553 00:25:33,201 --> 00:25:35,289 Yes, I... I told him. 554 00:25:44,492 --> 00:25:45,492 Well. 555 00:25:47,675 --> 00:25:52,257 Michelle, I have to tell you, you make me sick. 556 00:25:53,582 --> 00:25:55,279 - What? - Get up. 557 00:25:56,827 --> 00:25:58,530 - What the hell are you doing? - Stand up. 558 00:25:58,555 --> 00:26:00,948 Put your hands behind your back. 559 00:26:02,032 --> 00:26:03,468 You're under arrest. 560 00:26:06,685 --> 00:26:08,774 She told her husband about the video? 561 00:26:08,838 --> 00:26:10,273 That Kaitlyn was planning to expose her? 562 00:26:10,298 --> 00:26:10,919 Sure did. 563 00:26:10,944 --> 00:26:12,684 She might as well have handed him a loaded gun. 564 00:26:13,061 --> 00:26:16,716 Ask me, this is more than child endangerment. 565 00:26:17,022 --> 00:26:19,153 You want me to charge her with manslaughter? 566 00:26:19,178 --> 00:26:20,310 Man two. 567 00:26:20,335 --> 00:26:22,598 Michelle Burns had a duty to protect her child, 568 00:26:22,892 --> 00:26:25,099 and her reckless actions and inactions 569 00:26:25,124 --> 00:26:27,474 directly led to her daughter's death. 570 00:26:31,526 --> 00:26:32,950 Sam. 571 00:26:33,946 --> 00:26:35,642 - Hi. - Hey, how are you? 572 00:26:35,643 --> 00:26:37,470 I'm good. 573 00:26:37,471 --> 00:26:39,341 You represent Michelle Burns? 574 00:26:39,342 --> 00:26:41,300 I wish I wasn't. 575 00:26:41,301 --> 00:26:43,911 I can't believe you're actually prosecuting her. 576 00:26:43,912 --> 00:26:45,130 She's a victim. 577 00:26:45,131 --> 00:26:46,653 Her daughter was murdered. 578 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:48,263 Yeah, I get it. 579 00:26:48,264 --> 00:26:51,919 But she had a duty, a legal duty to protect her daughter. 580 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,791 She didn't. So. 581 00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:55,531 Well, you may be right, 582 00:26:55,532 --> 00:26:58,056 but it's more complicated than that. 583 00:26:58,057 --> 00:27:00,058 What are you talking about? 584 00:27:00,059 --> 00:27:03,628 Kaitlyn wasn't the only woman Ron Lawson abused. 585 00:27:10,765 --> 00:27:13,114 I'm requesting the court's permission to allow 586 00:27:13,115 --> 00:27:14,899 an expert witness at trial... 587 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:18,163 a psychologist who can testify to my client's state of mind 588 00:27:18,164 --> 00:27:21,122 as a victim of physical and sexual abuse. 589 00:27:21,123 --> 00:27:23,124 How is that relevant to this case? 590 00:27:23,125 --> 00:27:24,473 Mr. Price has a point. 591 00:27:24,474 --> 00:27:25,997 What does a psychologist's opinion 592 00:27:25,998 --> 00:27:27,563 have to do with this matter? 593 00:27:27,564 --> 00:27:29,914 Well, the People are required to prove that my client 594 00:27:29,915 --> 00:27:31,698 ignored an unjustifiable risk 595 00:27:31,699 --> 00:27:33,613 that someone's death would occur. 596 00:27:33,614 --> 00:27:36,810 I'd like to tell the jury why she failed to act. 597 00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,445 Context is important. 598 00:27:38,663 --> 00:27:40,664 It cuts to the very core of our defense. 599 00:27:40,665 --> 00:27:44,058 The defendant's reasons have no legal significance. 600 00:27:44,059 --> 00:27:45,320 This is just a veiled attempt 601 00:27:45,321 --> 00:27:47,323 to elicit sympathy from the jury. 602 00:27:48,847 --> 00:27:51,326 I'll allow counsel to conduct a voir dire 603 00:27:51,327 --> 00:27:53,067 outside of the presence of the jury 604 00:27:53,068 --> 00:27:55,113 to see what this witness has to say. 605 00:27:55,114 --> 00:27:57,246 I'll issue my decision afterwards. 606 00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:04,723 Dr. Mankin, did you conduct a forensic evaluation 607 00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:06,966 of the defendant? - I did. 608 00:28:06,991 --> 00:28:09,079 She reported that she was in a physically 609 00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:10,888 and emotionally abusive marriage. 610 00:28:10,913 --> 00:28:14,481 Did she describe specific instances of violence? 611 00:28:14,499 --> 00:28:18,414 A fractured eye socket, a broken ankle, a concussion, 612 00:28:18,415 --> 00:28:21,857 and numerous bruises and cuts. 613 00:28:21,882 --> 00:28:24,319 Did she tell you about her childhood? 614 00:28:24,344 --> 00:28:26,910 Do I have to sit here and listen to this? 615 00:28:26,935 --> 00:28:28,762 Your lawyer asked for this hearing. 616 00:28:28,787 --> 00:28:30,398 Please control your client. 617 00:28:33,864 --> 00:28:36,692 Please answer the question. 618 00:28:36,912 --> 00:28:38,497 When she was nine years old, 619 00:28:38,522 --> 00:28:40,505 Michelle was the victim of sexual abuse 620 00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:42,400 at the hands of an uncle. 621 00:28:42,425 --> 00:28:43,599 Did that surprise you? 622 00:28:43,666 --> 00:28:44,575 No. 623 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,234 Children who are raised in abusive homes 624 00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:48,443 are six times more likely to find themselves 625 00:28:48,468 --> 00:28:50,857 in abusive relationships as adults. 626 00:28:50,882 --> 00:28:52,099 Why is that? 627 00:28:52,433 --> 00:28:54,217 For women like Michelle, 628 00:28:54,239 --> 00:28:57,981 abuse becomes their definition of love. 629 00:28:59,287 --> 00:29:00,287 Thank you. 630 00:29:00,288 --> 00:29:02,247 Nothing further. 631 00:29:03,813 --> 00:29:05,901 Cross-examination? 632 00:29:05,902 --> 00:29:08,252 Did the defendant ever report any of this abuse? 633 00:29:08,253 --> 00:29:10,297 When she was a child, she told her parents, 634 00:29:10,298 --> 00:29:13,300 but they didn't believe her, and that was shattering. 635 00:29:13,301 --> 00:29:15,911 It reinforced her sense of powerlessness. 636 00:29:15,912 --> 00:29:19,263 While the defendant may have been suffering, 637 00:29:19,264 --> 00:29:21,787 wasn't she still capable of protecting her daughter? 638 00:29:21,788 --> 00:29:25,443 I believe Michelle suffers from dissociative disorder. 639 00:29:25,444 --> 00:29:27,967 Her survival depends on her ability 640 00:29:27,968 --> 00:29:30,404 to disengage emotionally. 641 00:29:30,405 --> 00:29:33,973 As a result, she lost her ability to recognize danger, 642 00:29:33,974 --> 00:29:37,150 along with her maternal instincts of protection. 643 00:29:37,151 --> 00:29:39,631 You're not saying she's legally insane, are you? 644 00:29:39,632 --> 00:29:41,589 No, I'm not saying that. 645 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:43,461 Thank you. Nothing further. 646 00:29:43,462 --> 00:29:45,419 You are excused. 647 00:29:48,989 --> 00:29:53,949 While what Ms. Burns is alleging is tragic, 648 00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:57,068 it is clearly not relevant to this case. 649 00:29:57,093 --> 00:29:59,390 And as such, the law requires 650 00:29:59,391 --> 00:30:02,306 that you deny the defendant's motion. 651 00:30:02,307 --> 00:30:04,794 Respectfully, the defense has the right 652 00:30:04,819 --> 00:30:06,951 to present a full and complete picture 653 00:30:06,976 --> 00:30:09,005 of what happened... more specifically, 654 00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:10,684 why this happened. 655 00:30:13,372 --> 00:30:16,505 I agree with Mr. Price. 656 00:30:16,756 --> 00:30:19,107 But Your Honor, as a woman, how can you possibly... 657 00:30:19,132 --> 00:30:20,437 Don't go there, Counsel. 658 00:30:20,834 --> 00:30:22,786 My decision is based on the law. 659 00:30:23,094 --> 00:30:25,965 And I find that the defendant's state of mind 660 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:28,724 has no legal significance in this case. 661 00:30:28,749 --> 00:30:31,707 Therefore, the defendant's motion is denied. 662 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:36,298 Dr. Mankin will not be allowed in this trial. 663 00:30:36,361 --> 00:30:37,753 We're adjourned. 664 00:30:37,778 --> 00:30:39,387 I'll see you all here tomorrow morning. 665 00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:46,740 I'm not sure about this. 666 00:30:46,995 --> 00:30:48,279 Sure about what? 667 00:30:48,305 --> 00:30:52,308 Leaving this evidence out or even prosecuting Michelle. 668 00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:54,746 She's a victim, Nolan. 669 00:31:01,090 --> 00:31:01,607 Hey. 670 00:31:01,632 --> 00:31:03,720 I've subpoenaed Michelle's medical records. 671 00:31:04,646 --> 00:31:06,863 They corroborate the psychologist's testimony. 672 00:31:06,888 --> 00:31:08,918 In the last ten years, Michelle was treated 673 00:31:08,943 --> 00:31:11,207 for a broken ankle, fractured eye socket, 674 00:31:11,232 --> 00:31:12,113 and a concussion. 675 00:31:12,114 --> 00:31:14,713 I also found a police report from Westport, Connecticut, 676 00:31:14,738 --> 00:31:17,566 where Michelle and Ron used to live. 677 00:31:17,591 --> 00:31:20,366 Shows she called 911 to report domestic violence. 678 00:31:20,391 --> 00:31:22,305 Withdrew her complaint a week later. 679 00:31:22,306 --> 00:31:25,134 Well, there was also a report from Cleveland, 680 00:31:25,135 --> 00:31:26,483 where Michelle grew up. 681 00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:28,703 Teacher suspected there was abuse in the home. 682 00:31:28,704 --> 00:31:31,227 I don't dispute that the abuse happened 683 00:31:31,228 --> 00:31:34,144 and that it's horrific. 684 00:31:36,602 --> 00:31:38,211 Jesus. 685 00:31:38,236 --> 00:31:41,064 It also certainly explains why Michelle would stay with a man 686 00:31:41,089 --> 00:31:42,655 who was abusing her daughter. 687 00:31:42,718 --> 00:31:44,371 Yeah. 688 00:31:44,372 --> 00:31:46,590 But the fact remains, Michelle Burns 689 00:31:46,591 --> 00:31:48,853 had an obligation to protect her kid, 690 00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:50,507 and she did the exact opposite. 691 00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:53,249 She wasn't capable of helping. 692 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:55,295 She was fighting for her own survival. 693 00:31:55,296 --> 00:31:56,644 You're right about that, 694 00:31:56,645 --> 00:31:59,612 but she let her husband abuse Kaitlyn for years. 695 00:31:59,637 --> 00:32:01,594 And if that weren't enough, she told 696 00:32:01,619 --> 00:32:03,815 a violent, sexually abusive man that 697 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,493 he was about to be exposed as a pedophile, 698 00:32:05,518 --> 00:32:08,190 which directly led to her child's death. 699 00:32:08,215 --> 00:32:12,305 She was more a perpetrator than victim in this instance anyway. 700 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:15,112 What kind of precedent would it be setting 701 00:32:15,137 --> 00:32:17,094 if we gave her a pass? 702 00:32:17,232 --> 00:32:19,712 Society demands that people in positions of power 703 00:32:19,737 --> 00:32:20,839 protect those who have none. 704 00:32:20,864 --> 00:32:22,526 Parents are the ones who hold that power. 705 00:32:22,551 --> 00:32:24,026 Yeah, I agree. 706 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:26,222 But it doesn't mean that we don't have an obligation 707 00:32:26,223 --> 00:32:27,789 to protect Michelle too. 708 00:32:27,790 --> 00:32:30,574 She's an adult. Kaitlyn was a kid, a teenager. 709 00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:32,837 In case of a tie, Michelle loses. 710 00:32:32,838 --> 00:32:35,144 Sorry. 711 00:32:35,145 --> 00:32:36,928 Move forward with the trial. 712 00:32:47,113 --> 00:32:49,724 Lieutenant Brady, did you speak with the defendant? 713 00:32:49,725 --> 00:32:51,151 I did. 714 00:32:51,176 --> 00:32:54,854 And she told me she was aware that her husband had been 715 00:32:54,879 --> 00:32:57,315 sexually abusing her daughter and that the abuse 716 00:32:57,340 --> 00:32:58,862 had gone on for several years. 717 00:32:58,887 --> 00:33:01,976 And did the defendant tell her husband that Kaitlyn 718 00:33:02,001 --> 00:33:04,183 was going to expose him? - She did. 719 00:33:04,208 --> 00:33:07,167 And less than 24 hours later, Kaitlyn was dead. 720 00:33:07,423 --> 00:33:10,033 Thank you. Nothing further. 721 00:33:10,058 --> 00:33:11,538 Cross-examination? 722 00:33:14,371 --> 00:33:17,547 My client didn't kill anyone. 723 00:33:17,572 --> 00:33:18,659 Fair to say? 724 00:33:18,684 --> 00:33:21,034 Fair to say. 725 00:33:21,059 --> 00:33:23,034 In fact, my client wasn't present 726 00:33:23,059 --> 00:33:24,451 when Kaitlyn died, was she? 727 00:33:24,476 --> 00:33:26,042 Objection, relevance? 728 00:33:26,067 --> 00:33:28,243 Overruled. You may answer. 729 00:33:30,656 --> 00:33:32,309 I don't believe she was, no. 730 00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:35,190 The person who actually did kill Kaitlyn, 731 00:33:35,215 --> 00:33:36,738 Ron Lawson, shot himself. 732 00:33:37,129 --> 00:33:38,870 So he's gone. 733 00:33:38,895 --> 00:33:42,115 And now you and Mr. Price are trying to compound this tragedy 734 00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:43,182 by blaming it on his wife. 735 00:33:43,207 --> 00:33:45,002 Objection, argumentative. 736 00:33:45,027 --> 00:33:47,115 Withdrawn. 737 00:33:47,218 --> 00:33:48,263 Nothing further. 738 00:33:53,672 --> 00:33:56,152 I love my daughter very much. 739 00:33:57,458 --> 00:34:00,592 More than I can even... 740 00:34:06,772 --> 00:34:12,648 And I tried very hard to protect her. 741 00:34:14,441 --> 00:34:17,225 I know it wasn't enough, but I tried. 742 00:34:17,609 --> 00:34:21,041 Tell the jury what you mean by that. 743 00:34:21,066 --> 00:34:27,246 I taught Kaitlyn to be a strong, independent woman. 744 00:34:27,271 --> 00:34:30,311 I took her to self-defense classes. 745 00:34:30,336 --> 00:34:33,991 I... I helped her become financially independent. 746 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:38,472 I... I talked to her about her sex, about her body. 747 00:34:40,648 --> 00:34:44,640 And when I became aware of what 748 00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:51,192 was going on with Ron, I... 749 00:34:51,294 --> 00:34:56,646 I encouraged her to move out of the house as soon as possible. 750 00:34:56,936 --> 00:34:58,530 But you were having your own problems. 751 00:34:58,555 --> 00:34:59,530 Objection. 752 00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:00,358 Sustained. 753 00:35:00,383 --> 00:35:03,515 We've been through this, Ms. Hogan. 754 00:35:03,992 --> 00:35:05,616 Your witness. 755 00:35:06,027 --> 00:35:08,419 Cross-examination? 756 00:35:08,444 --> 00:35:10,655 After your husband was arrested 757 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,812 for killing your daughter, 758 00:35:12,837 --> 00:35:14,794 you posted his bail, didn't you? 759 00:35:17,790 --> 00:35:19,913 - Yes. - He was in custody. 760 00:35:19,938 --> 00:35:22,724 He was behind bars. And you helped him get out? 761 00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:25,890 I did. 762 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:31,267 You also helped him create a false alibi? 763 00:35:31,948 --> 00:35:32,929 Yes. 764 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:38,186 I know that this won't make any sense, but I was afraid. 765 00:35:38,956 --> 00:35:40,280 And so I did what he said 766 00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:41,697 because that's the way it's always been. 767 00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:43,897 Because if I disappointed him, he became violent! 768 00:35:43,922 --> 00:35:46,147 - Your Honor. - Next question. 769 00:35:46,172 --> 00:35:50,306 You have made several very successful films, haven't you? 770 00:35:50,688 --> 00:35:51,397 I suppose. 771 00:35:51,422 --> 00:35:54,015 One of your movies is about a young woman 772 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,041 who was abused by a family member. 773 00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:57,893 Objection, relevance. 774 00:35:57,918 --> 00:35:59,092 Overruled. 775 00:35:59,335 --> 00:36:00,728 Please answer. 776 00:36:02,884 --> 00:36:05,069 It was an exploration 777 00:36:05,094 --> 00:36:07,530 in a complicated family relationship. 778 00:36:07,555 --> 00:36:11,030 In that movie, the daughter is hurt so badly, 779 00:36:11,055 --> 00:36:12,640 she dies, doesn't she? 780 00:36:12,665 --> 00:36:14,884 Objection. Where is he going with this? 781 00:36:14,909 --> 00:36:17,214 The People are required to prove that the defendant 782 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,210 consciously disregarded a substantial risk to her child, 783 00:36:20,235 --> 00:36:21,499 knowing that death could result. 784 00:36:21,524 --> 00:36:23,961 I'm simply trying to establish that the defendant was aware 785 00:36:23,986 --> 00:36:26,465 of the risk involved in not reporting her husband's abuse 786 00:36:26,490 --> 00:36:28,927 because she made a film about it. 787 00:36:28,952 --> 00:36:30,691 The objection is overruled. 788 00:36:30,871 --> 00:36:32,437 Please answer. 789 00:36:37,508 --> 00:36:40,118 In the film, the daughter dies. 790 00:36:40,435 --> 00:36:44,186 In your home, your husband's abuse of your daughter 791 00:36:44,211 --> 00:36:47,431 went on for years, didn't it? 792 00:36:47,605 --> 00:36:48,600 Unfortunately. 793 00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:50,679 And you told your husband that Kaitlyn 794 00:36:50,704 --> 00:36:52,575 was going to expose him, didn't you? 795 00:36:53,335 --> 00:36:54,001 Yes. 796 00:36:54,002 --> 00:36:57,004 And 24 hours later, she was dead. 797 00:36:57,005 --> 00:37:00,530 Did I get that right? - I... 798 00:37:00,531 --> 00:37:02,533 I made a mistake. 799 00:37:05,013 --> 00:37:08,146 I made a mistake. 800 00:37:08,147 --> 00:37:12,272 I wish I could do it all over again, 801 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:15,037 be a different person, a stronger person. 802 00:37:15,062 --> 00:37:16,452 But I wasn't, and I didn't. 803 00:37:16,477 --> 00:37:18,695 And I have to live with that for the rest of my life. 804 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,852 I'm afraid you do. 805 00:37:21,013 --> 00:37:22,970 I have nothing further. 806 00:37:30,299 --> 00:37:31,905 Nolan. 807 00:37:33,051 --> 00:37:35,530 What you did in there, using her film 808 00:37:35,531 --> 00:37:36,618 against her in that way? 809 00:37:36,619 --> 00:37:37,750 That was fair game, Sam. 810 00:37:37,751 --> 00:37:40,013 No, no, that was legal. 811 00:37:40,014 --> 00:37:42,668 But it wasn't fair. 812 00:37:42,669 --> 00:37:44,322 I... 813 00:37:44,323 --> 00:37:46,374 you're the one who always says trials are supposed 814 00:37:46,399 --> 00:37:47,749 to be a search for the truth. 815 00:37:47,774 --> 00:37:51,392 So please tell me how the hell the jury is supposed to 816 00:37:51,417 --> 00:37:54,382 make a decision about Michelle, about this case 817 00:37:54,407 --> 00:37:56,491 when they don't have all the facts, 818 00:37:56,516 --> 00:37:59,124 when they don't actually know the truth. 819 00:37:59,149 --> 00:38:03,765 The jury decides what is and isn't true based on the facts, 820 00:38:03,790 --> 00:38:06,705 on the relevant facts. 821 00:38:06,861 --> 00:38:11,374 I respect that you are a man of principle, 822 00:38:11,399 --> 00:38:13,052 but I have my principles too. 823 00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:17,776 Well, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 824 00:38:18,098 --> 00:38:19,142 No. 825 00:38:23,378 --> 00:38:25,727 Do you really think that you know more 826 00:38:25,752 --> 00:38:29,973 about domestic violence than I do? 827 00:38:29,998 --> 00:38:33,435 I... I have counseled victims. 828 00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:34,986 I've volunteered at shelters. 829 00:38:35,011 --> 00:38:37,577 I studied the psychological impact of trauma. 830 00:38:37,602 --> 00:38:41,301 And there's my sister, who died at the hands of an abuser. 831 00:38:41,903 --> 00:38:45,197 So please don't tell me what Michelle should have done 832 00:38:45,222 --> 00:38:47,212 or what she was legally required to do. 833 00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:49,456 She spent most of her life being abused. 834 00:38:49,481 --> 00:38:52,178 And the truth is, Nolan, she wasn't 835 00:38:52,203 --> 00:38:55,075 capable of protecting herself, let alone her daughter. 836 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:58,363 And there is no punishment in the world 837 00:38:58,388 --> 00:39:00,041 that is going to change that. 838 00:39:03,425 --> 00:39:04,814 Now, if you don't respect my opinion 839 00:39:04,839 --> 00:39:07,972 when it comes to this issue, 840 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:11,477 then I don't know what the hell I'm doing in this office. 841 00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:17,749 What do you mean, you wanna cut a deal? 842 00:39:17,774 --> 00:39:18,900 We've been through this. 843 00:39:18,925 --> 00:39:21,283 We agreed Michelle Burns failed in her duty 844 00:39:21,308 --> 00:39:23,047 to protect her child. 845 00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:24,491 I'm having second thoughts. 846 00:39:26,991 --> 00:39:30,341 Sam has been pretty passionate in her defense 847 00:39:30,366 --> 00:39:33,150 of Michelle Burns, and... 848 00:39:33,322 --> 00:39:34,888 I'm starting to see her point of view. 849 00:39:34,913 --> 00:39:38,089 I'm not so sure that sending an abuse victim to prison 850 00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:40,855 for 15 years is the right call. 851 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,587 Neither am I. 852 00:39:42,612 --> 00:39:45,048 But I have to look at the big picture. 853 00:39:45,073 --> 00:39:48,267 There are larger societal implications here. 854 00:39:48,292 --> 00:39:50,815 You're right. 855 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,601 But let's face it, Nick, Sam knows more about these issues 856 00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:55,869 than we do. 857 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:59,113 Maybe it's time for us to start listening to her, 858 00:39:59,138 --> 00:40:03,185 instead of telling her why she's wrong. 859 00:40:11,223 --> 00:40:13,703 Your Honor, the defendant has agreed to plead guilty, 860 00:40:13,728 --> 00:40:15,408 and we have a sentencing recommendation 861 00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:16,947 for the court's consideration. 862 00:40:16,972 --> 00:40:18,146 I'll hear it. 863 00:40:18,394 --> 00:40:19,994 The defendant will admit to so much 864 00:40:20,033 --> 00:40:21,697 of the complaint that alleges endangering 865 00:40:21,722 --> 00:40:23,478 the welfare of a child, 866 00:40:23,503 --> 00:40:25,809 and she will serve one year in jail, 867 00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:28,964 followed by three years of post-release supervision. 868 00:40:29,246 --> 00:40:30,900 Defense? 869 00:40:32,442 --> 00:40:33,964 We have agreed to the terms. 870 00:40:34,012 --> 00:40:37,798 Okay, Ms. Burns, I will accept your change of plea 871 00:40:37,823 --> 00:40:40,607 and sentence you to one year in jail. 872 00:40:40,632 --> 00:40:42,111 Court is adjourned. 873 00:40:54,722 --> 00:40:58,768 Thank you for hearing me. 874 00:41:11,567 --> 00:41:14,525 subsync johnhallgeir 63256

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