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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,218 --> 00:00:02,524 [narrator] In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,567 --> 00:00:04,091 the people are represented by two separate, 3 00:00:04,134 --> 00:00:05,657 yet equally important groups. 4 00:00:05,701 --> 00:00:07,790 The police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:07,833 --> 00:00:10,749 and the Crown Prosecutors, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:10,793 --> 00:00:12,229 These are their stories. 7 00:00:13,709 --> 00:00:14,797 -Hey, Jess. -Hi. 8 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,364 -How's it going? -Good. 9 00:00:16,886 --> 00:00:18,105 Try the soup. 10 00:00:19,193 --> 00:00:20,107 It's to die for. 11 00:00:21,412 --> 00:00:23,632 He means last time he made it, six people died. 12 00:00:23,675 --> 00:00:25,242 Isn't that right, Reverend? 13 00:00:31,553 --> 00:00:33,685 [Reverend] We've a bed at the shelter if you want it. 14 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:37,385 You okay, mate? 15 00:00:52,182 --> 00:00:54,663 Cheryl! Call an ambulance! 16 00:00:55,490 --> 00:00:56,578 Now! 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,756 We're out here most nights, 18 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:02,323 so most kids who... 19 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:04,629 sleep rough are familiar faces. 20 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:06,370 But you'd never seen this kid before? 21 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:08,198 No. 22 00:01:09,504 --> 00:01:11,593 Okay, well, we'll need to talk to all the kids 23 00:01:11,854 --> 00:01:12,855 that were here earlier. 24 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:16,641 -Reverend Crawford? -Yeah.. 25 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:19,035 Sorry. 26 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,820 We do breakfast at the shelter for the rough sleepers. 27 00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:25,694 The kids usually enjoy that, too. 28 00:01:28,436 --> 00:01:29,611 That poor boy. 29 00:01:30,481 --> 00:01:32,353 He was dead by the time you found him, sir. 30 00:01:32,396 --> 00:01:33,789 There's nothing you could have done. 31 00:01:34,703 --> 00:01:37,097 One of our uniformed guys will look after you. 32 00:01:41,579 --> 00:01:43,799 [woman] Multiple bruises and contusions. 33 00:01:43,842 --> 00:01:45,801 Back of his head was popped like a grape. 34 00:01:45,844 --> 00:01:47,759 No wallet, no ID, no mobile. 35 00:01:49,457 --> 00:01:51,154 So not a known local. What do you reckon? 36 00:01:51,198 --> 00:01:52,503 Lad walked off the train 37 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:54,375 and got his first and last welcome to London. 38 00:01:54,418 --> 00:01:56,246 He was what, 12, 13? 39 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:57,465 Someone should tell these kids 40 00:01:57,508 --> 00:01:59,249 the streets aren't lined with well-wishers. 41 00:01:59,815 --> 00:02:01,425 If the street's the alternative, 42 00:02:01,469 --> 00:02:03,297 makes you wonder what they're running from. 43 00:02:54,565 --> 00:02:56,741 [Matt] Well, he didn't come out of Euston Station. 44 00:02:56,785 --> 00:02:58,482 Must be a local after all. 45 00:02:58,526 --> 00:03:01,485 Well, that narrows it down to 659 square miles. 46 00:03:01,529 --> 00:03:02,965 Thank you. 47 00:03:03,008 --> 00:03:04,619 So, how does a young kid like that get beaten to death 48 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:05,750 and no one notice? 49 00:03:05,968 --> 00:03:07,317 Well, let's start with the witnesses, 50 00:03:07,361 --> 00:03:08,797 get down the Reverend's shelter. 51 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,842 Someone from down there might have recognized the kid. 52 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:13,802 Yeah. Mind you, state you're in now, 53 00:03:13,845 --> 00:03:15,847 they'll probably hose you down, give you a meal. 54 00:03:15,891 --> 00:03:17,458 You're no prince charming! 55 00:03:17,501 --> 00:03:20,417 First Superdrug we pass, you're stopping for Listerine. 56 00:03:20,765 --> 00:03:22,811 Do you always smell so minty? 57 00:03:24,552 --> 00:03:26,641 Cheryl, do you recognize him, love? 58 00:03:27,772 --> 00:03:30,645 I was too busy working last night trying to keep warm. 59 00:03:31,428 --> 00:03:33,604 Go on, have a think. 60 00:03:33,909 --> 00:03:36,999 -I bet nothing gets past you. -Do women ever fall for that? 61 00:03:39,044 --> 00:03:40,568 I don't know him from Adam. 62 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:44,789 Cheryl, your tattoo, is that a local gang? 63 00:03:46,835 --> 00:03:48,967 Yeah. I got out a few months ago 64 00:03:49,011 --> 00:03:50,491 and the Rev got me this job here. 65 00:03:51,709 --> 00:03:53,755 Since when did you become an expert on gangs? 66 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:56,236 I'm old Bill, not prehistoric Bill. 67 00:03:56,758 --> 00:03:58,238 So where do you lot hang out? 68 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,806 I'm telling you, man, I got an airtight alibi. 69 00:04:02,416 --> 00:04:04,940 We haven't told you when you need your alibi for yet. 70 00:04:05,506 --> 00:04:06,724 That's your world out there. 71 00:04:06,768 --> 00:04:08,465 This is ours in here. We don't mix! 72 00:04:08,509 --> 00:04:10,728 Yeah? Three pointer says you're wrong. 73 00:04:13,731 --> 00:04:14,602 Okay. 74 00:04:21,043 --> 00:04:23,263 Shame, man. You got a photo? 75 00:04:25,743 --> 00:04:28,398 He was found dead last night at the back of Euston station, 76 00:04:28,442 --> 00:04:29,834 head kicked in. 77 00:04:29,878 --> 00:04:31,923 -Don't need no photo, then. -You know who did it? 78 00:04:31,967 --> 00:04:33,969 He weren't done by a gang, man. 79 00:04:34,012 --> 00:04:36,928 That whole area round there, that's the neutral zone. 80 00:04:36,972 --> 00:04:39,279 [man] No one gets touched in the neutral zone. 81 00:04:39,757 --> 00:04:41,324 Law of the land, man. 82 00:04:41,368 --> 00:04:42,978 Youths gotta use the train, too, don't they? 83 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:46,373 [Matt] So bloody tribal. One street against the next, 84 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:48,766 kids getting beaten for walking through outlawed areas. 85 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:51,334 Rivalry between kids ain't nothing new, Matt. 86 00:04:51,378 --> 00:04:53,423 You can't tell me you and your mates never organized 87 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:55,904 a punch up between your school and the next one down the road. 88 00:04:55,947 --> 00:04:57,732 We never carried knives or guns. 89 00:04:57,993 --> 00:04:59,864 Then kids haven't changed, society has. 90 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:01,823 I hate these cases, Matt. 91 00:05:03,172 --> 00:05:04,826 All that potential gone. 92 00:05:07,481 --> 00:05:09,961 I'd say your male anon... 93 00:05:10,005 --> 00:05:11,615 was 13. 94 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:14,531 [man] Cracked ribs, punctured lung, 95 00:05:14,575 --> 00:05:16,490 a ruptured spleen. 96 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:19,971 He hemorrhaged from almost every major organ. 97 00:05:20,015 --> 00:05:22,757 How long do you reckon he could have walked around like that? 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,890 Slow rate of seepage. An hour, two tops. 99 00:05:25,934 --> 00:05:27,588 Any sign of sexual abuse? 100 00:05:27,631 --> 00:05:29,807 No evidence of any sexual activity. 101 00:05:29,851 --> 00:05:32,070 No fluids, no tearing of tissue. 102 00:05:32,506 --> 00:05:35,378 Just normal blunt force wounds. 103 00:05:35,422 --> 00:05:38,599 Probably from steel toe-capped boots or DMs. 104 00:05:38,642 --> 00:05:40,992 -Any tattoos, gang markings? -No. 105 00:05:41,515 --> 00:05:43,734 Somebody on the street must know this kid. 106 00:05:43,778 --> 00:05:45,997 There's no way he was living on the street. 107 00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:49,087 This boy was well looked after, well fed. 108 00:05:49,131 --> 00:05:52,003 His last meal was polenta and roasted vegetables. 109 00:05:53,744 --> 00:05:55,964 They don't serve polenta and roasted veg 110 00:05:56,007 --> 00:05:57,052 in soup kitchens. 111 00:05:57,574 --> 00:05:59,054 Where are the parents in all this? 112 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:01,404 If my kid had missing for the best part of a day, 113 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:02,623 I'd be going spare! 114 00:06:02,666 --> 00:06:04,842 You and me both. We've sent his photograph 115 00:06:04,886 --> 00:06:06,627 to all the other constabularies, 116 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:08,629 just in case his parents do a walk-in. 117 00:06:08,672 --> 00:06:09,804 There's been nothing. 118 00:06:09,847 --> 00:06:11,066 How's the response to the media appeal? 119 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:12,981 Lots of calls obviously, 120 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:14,722 lots of sympathy, but so far no leads. 121 00:06:14,765 --> 00:06:16,027 And you've checked with Missing Persons? 122 00:06:16,071 --> 00:06:18,073 Yep. None matching his description. 123 00:06:18,116 --> 00:06:20,641 There's no match with fingerprints or DNA either. 124 00:06:20,684 --> 00:06:21,990 Without his name, we've got nothing. 125 00:06:22,033 --> 00:06:23,208 Nowhere to start. 126 00:06:23,252 --> 00:06:24,993 We just got a hit from the media appeal. 127 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:27,996 A Mrs. Lee, a teacher over in Kilburn. 128 00:06:30,912 --> 00:06:33,088 [Jenny] Couldn't believe it when I saw his face on the news. 129 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:36,004 Danny Jackson, one of my after school regulars. 130 00:06:36,483 --> 00:06:37,745 Hurry up, Chloe. 131 00:06:37,788 --> 00:06:39,747 So I take it he wasn't exactly teacher's pet? 132 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:42,750 Actually, he was a decent kid, just shy. 133 00:06:42,793 --> 00:06:44,926 He had dyslexia. He was on our mainstream scheme. 134 00:06:44,969 --> 00:06:46,406 Do you have an address for Danny? 135 00:06:46,754 --> 00:06:48,233 I've got an old one, six months ago. 136 00:06:48,277 --> 00:06:51,062 His mother moved. New boyfriend, according to Danny. 137 00:06:51,106 --> 00:06:52,629 Did he ever talk about his home life? 138 00:06:52,673 --> 00:06:54,065 You mean did he show up with bruises? 139 00:06:54,805 --> 00:06:56,938 Kids are good at keeping that sort of stuff from you. 140 00:06:56,981 --> 00:06:59,157 Yeah. Baggy clothes'll hide a lot. 141 00:07:00,028 --> 00:07:00,985 Yeah. 142 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:05,120 The boyfriend's a bookie. Wimbledon dog track. 143 00:07:14,521 --> 00:07:17,480 You're too late. Danny's mum moved out three months ago 144 00:07:17,524 --> 00:07:18,786 Well, do you have an address? 145 00:07:18,829 --> 00:07:20,483 From day one, Mandy and that kid of hers 146 00:07:20,527 --> 00:07:21,615 were nothing but trouble. 147 00:07:21,658 --> 00:07:22,964 Everything okay, babe? 148 00:07:23,225 --> 00:07:24,922 Nothing to worry about, sweetheart. 149 00:07:28,056 --> 00:07:29,623 I see you bounced right back. 150 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:32,452 Mandy left me. She ripped me off. 151 00:07:32,974 --> 00:07:34,671 As for Danny? Bloody hell! 152 00:07:35,237 --> 00:07:37,500 When he weren't drawing, he was bouncing off the walls. 153 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:41,809 I reckon the reason Mandy got stoned half the time 154 00:07:41,852 --> 00:07:42,897 was cause of him. 155 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:44,812 What about you, Stevie? 156 00:07:45,073 --> 00:07:47,641 You ever need to make Danny see sense? 157 00:07:50,121 --> 00:07:51,514 I've never hit a kid. 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,648 [Ronnie] Stevie... 159 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:56,737 Just give us Mandy's address 160 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:58,478 before she decides to move on again. 161 00:07:58,826 --> 00:08:01,176 She's in rehab. You see her... 162 00:08:02,656 --> 00:08:04,005 Tell her I want my plasma back. 163 00:08:15,886 --> 00:08:16,844 That's her. 164 00:08:18,106 --> 00:08:19,542 She's been clean for nearly three months now. 165 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:37,734 [Ronnie] Hello, Mandy. 166 00:08:41,259 --> 00:08:42,173 [door closes] 167 00:09:07,808 --> 00:09:09,113 [Mandy] Social Services said 168 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:11,072 I wasn't fit to be left alone with him. 169 00:09:12,247 --> 00:09:13,117 So... 170 00:09:14,336 --> 00:09:17,252 I wanted him back, so I went into rehab. 171 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:22,605 He cried when they took him away. 172 00:09:24,215 --> 00:09:26,783 I told him, "Danny, you're going to a nice house. 173 00:09:26,827 --> 00:09:29,003 You'll be fed and looked after and... 174 00:09:30,134 --> 00:09:31,135 safe." 175 00:09:34,443 --> 00:09:36,619 After everything I'd put him through. 176 00:09:37,446 --> 00:09:39,361 After... everything... 177 00:09:41,668 --> 00:09:42,930 He didn't wanna go. 178 00:09:46,281 --> 00:09:48,196 I want him back. 179 00:09:49,414 --> 00:09:52,766 Please bring him back. I want him back! 180 00:09:54,289 --> 00:09:55,943 We'll get whoever did this. 181 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:06,083 [woman] A few months ago, the PE teacher 182 00:10:06,127 --> 00:10:08,695 at Danny's new school noticed some bruises. 183 00:10:09,086 --> 00:10:11,654 -Did Danny say how he got them? -Too scared. 184 00:10:12,176 --> 00:10:14,004 Child abuse team couldn't prove anything. 185 00:10:14,048 --> 00:10:15,789 I'd have had a fiver on Boyfriend Of The Year, 186 00:10:15,832 --> 00:10:17,268 Stevie Agnew, myself. 187 00:10:17,312 --> 00:10:20,794 We took Danny into care. Two days later, Mandy turns up. 188 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:24,014 Said she'd agree to do rehab, anything to get him back. 189 00:10:24,841 --> 00:10:25,929 This is what I always worried 190 00:10:25,973 --> 00:10:27,409 the inside of my head looked like. 191 00:10:27,452 --> 00:10:30,194 One person's mess is another person's filing system. 192 00:10:30,238 --> 00:10:31,282 Thank you. 193 00:10:31,326 --> 00:10:32,675 Was Danny placed with foster parents? 194 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:34,721 Um, Phoebe Baxter. She's the best we've got. 195 00:10:35,025 --> 00:10:38,028 So why didn't she report Danny missing on Friday night? 196 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,945 If I'd have told Social Services that Danny was missing, 197 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:43,904 they'd have taken him away from me. 198 00:10:43,947 --> 00:10:45,383 He was settling in so well. 199 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:48,473 So, well, you didn't know where he was? 200 00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:50,432 It's not prison. I don't tag 'em. 201 00:10:50,475 --> 00:10:52,869 [Phoebe] I've been doing this long enough to understand the pattern. 202 00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:56,656 They run away once, parents' house... 203 00:10:57,744 --> 00:11:01,312 hoping that mum and dad have patched up their differences. 204 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:04,402 And after a day or two, they come back again. 205 00:11:05,099 --> 00:11:07,057 That's what I thought Danny was up to. 206 00:11:07,449 --> 00:11:09,016 I failed him. 207 00:11:09,407 --> 00:11:12,193 So, just run us through what happened on Friday evening, 208 00:11:12,236 --> 00:11:13,150 Mrs Baxter, please. 209 00:11:14,238 --> 00:11:15,805 Well, after school, we all sat down 210 00:11:15,849 --> 00:11:17,111 and ate dinner together, like always, 211 00:11:17,154 --> 00:11:19,374 and then Danny went off to the cinema 212 00:11:19,983 --> 00:11:21,158 with Jono and Andy. 213 00:11:23,204 --> 00:11:25,032 [Jono] After the film, we stopped for some chips on the Camden High Street. 214 00:11:27,251 --> 00:11:29,079 [Ronnie] So, tell us what happened then, Jono. 215 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:31,691 Andy and I went in, got our order. 216 00:11:31,952 --> 00:11:33,997 When we came out, Danny was just, like, gone. 217 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:36,086 -Anything behind me? -[Jono] Yeah, your youth! 218 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:39,742 What about you, Andy? Danny say anything to you before he left? 219 00:11:41,048 --> 00:11:43,485 How was Danny that night, Andy? 220 00:11:43,528 --> 00:11:45,356 He's a right chatterbox, your mate, isn't he? 221 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,229 [Jono] He won't talk to the old Bill. Last time he did, he got nicked! 222 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:49,883 We looked around for him, didn't we? 223 00:11:50,361 --> 00:11:51,972 We thought he might come back here. 224 00:11:52,015 --> 00:11:54,191 So you think Danny was homesick, Andy? 225 00:11:54,235 --> 00:11:55,671 No way! 226 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,499 That minger his mum was shaggin', he used to hit Danny 227 00:11:57,542 --> 00:11:59,980 for going in the back room while he was watching ponies. 228 00:12:00,371 --> 00:12:01,982 Danny told you Stevie hit him? 229 00:12:03,244 --> 00:12:04,811 He showed us the bruises. 230 00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:10,381 I was in all night watching telly with Debbie. 231 00:12:10,425 --> 00:12:11,905 [Stevie] Danny never came round. 232 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:17,911 I know people like you, Stevie. 233 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:20,348 People who lie about hitting kids. 234 00:12:21,262 --> 00:12:23,917 People who get a kick out of seeing the bruises the next day. 235 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,179 I never hit him. 236 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:26,746 I took him in, fed him. 237 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:30,053 [Stevie] I put a roof over his head. Why would I hit him? 238 00:12:30,097 --> 00:12:31,272 Right now, 239 00:12:32,926 --> 00:12:35,406 SOCO are going through all the CCTV footage in your borough. 240 00:12:35,929 --> 00:12:37,931 [Matt] Uniform are searching your area. 241 00:12:37,974 --> 00:12:40,237 Forensics are going through your flat. 242 00:12:40,498 --> 00:12:42,065 Let me get this straight. 243 00:12:42,109 --> 00:12:44,807 You're saying I killed Danny because his mum nicked my telly? 244 00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:47,114 I never hit him, never. 245 00:12:49,856 --> 00:12:50,813 Stevie... 246 00:12:55,122 --> 00:12:56,123 Uniform... 247 00:12:58,386 --> 00:12:59,430 found this. 248 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:03,391 It is Danny's mobile phone. 249 00:13:04,131 --> 00:13:06,046 [Ronnie] Found it just across from your flat. 250 00:13:11,486 --> 00:13:13,096 I didn't kill that boy! 251 00:13:14,924 --> 00:13:17,971 [Matt] Look, guv, the other kids at Phoebe Baxter's, 252 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:20,234 they confirmed that Stevie hit Danny! 253 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:21,975 He's got motive, he's got previous. 254 00:13:22,018 --> 00:13:23,585 [Ronnie] Hang on, hang on. 255 00:13:23,628 --> 00:13:26,849 The kids said they only saw the bruises, not the beatings. 256 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:30,940 Nobody, nobody has proved that Agnew was battering Danny. 257 00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:33,160 And even if he was, it doesn't mean he's a murderer. 258 00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:35,118 Look, look at his body language. 259 00:13:35,162 --> 00:13:37,947 I mean, he's sitting on his hands! It's classic! He's hiding something! 260 00:13:37,991 --> 00:13:40,297 Matt, what are you gonna charge him with, bad posture? 261 00:13:40,341 --> 00:13:43,126 One of you's right, but tick-tock, boys. 262 00:13:43,170 --> 00:13:45,128 Your custody clock is running down. 263 00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:50,351 -Ronnie, mate, I know it's him. -Matt... 264 00:13:50,394 --> 00:13:53,571 Everything we've got is circumstantial, right? 265 00:13:53,615 --> 00:13:56,052 We have a phone that was found in a communal area-- 266 00:13:56,096 --> 00:13:58,489 -Come on. -Listen. We have no witness. 267 00:13:58,925 --> 00:14:01,275 And Agnew is gonna deny he's done anything wrong 268 00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:02,929 until he is blue in the face. 269 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:08,848 I've been that kid, you know? 270 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,856 Why don't we go and talk to Debbie and check Stevie's alibi? 271 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:19,684 [Debbie] Stevie usually takes me out on a Friday night 272 00:14:19,728 --> 00:14:22,383 but I had a stinking cold, so we stayed in. 273 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:25,647 I sat on the sofa with a duvet, dosed up on cold medicine. 274 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:28,911 -And where was Stevie? -In the back, watching telly. 275 00:14:29,346 --> 00:14:32,132 -Dog races on Sky. -Did he pop out at all? 276 00:14:32,175 --> 00:14:33,698 He was in all night. 277 00:14:33,742 --> 00:14:36,440 I'm tellin' ya, Stevie wouldn't harm a fly. 278 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:40,444 [Matt] What's that on your arm? 279 00:14:43,491 --> 00:14:45,058 Not what it looks like. 280 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:50,193 Well, it looks like somebody's hit you. 281 00:14:50,237 --> 00:14:52,326 He's got a temper. Who hasn't? 282 00:14:53,457 --> 00:14:55,546 I can be really annoying. I know I can. 283 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:57,157 So, Stevie was in all night, 284 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,072 you were in all night and that's it? 285 00:15:00,334 --> 00:15:01,422 Anything else? 286 00:15:03,598 --> 00:15:04,642 About ten o' clock, 287 00:15:06,122 --> 00:15:07,994 I heard someone put the key in the lock. 288 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:09,604 I knew Stevie was in, 289 00:15:09,647 --> 00:15:11,998 so I went over and opened the door... 290 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:15,610 and I heard some people running away. 291 00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:18,134 Well, do you know who it was? 292 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:19,919 I dunno. 293 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:22,486 I just caught a glimpse. 294 00:15:23,009 --> 00:15:25,533 -A glimpse? -It might not even have been Danny! 295 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:30,407 CCTV puts Stevie at the flat 296 00:15:30,451 --> 00:15:33,410 at 19:30 on the evening Danny died. 297 00:15:33,454 --> 00:15:35,456 [Natalie] He leaves at 8:00 in the morning. 298 00:15:36,152 --> 00:15:37,588 He was at the flat all night. 299 00:15:37,632 --> 00:15:39,286 Well, he might have nipped out the back. 300 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:41,723 No, Back alley's covered by a residential camera. 301 00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:42,898 He's in the clear. 302 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,291 All right. We're back where we started. 303 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:46,075 Oh, ye of little faith. 304 00:15:53,474 --> 00:15:54,605 [Ronnie] That's Danny. 305 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:58,609 And that other kid's the chatterbox from Phoebe Baxter's place. 306 00:15:58,653 --> 00:15:59,959 Andy Sefton. 307 00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:03,005 So that boy with the hood on could be the other lad. 308 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:04,485 -[Matt] Jono Blake? -[Ronnie] Yeah. 309 00:16:05,181 --> 00:16:07,096 Well, and that's exactly the same time 310 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:09,098 they said they were at the cinema in Camden. 311 00:16:09,142 --> 00:16:11,274 From this, they must have been among the last people 312 00:16:11,318 --> 00:16:12,406 to see Danny alive. 313 00:16:12,449 --> 00:16:14,060 Bring 'em in, first thing. 314 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:20,980 -It weren't me. -You're on CCTV, Jono. 315 00:16:22,329 --> 00:16:24,461 Standing next to Danny 316 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,811 -just before he died. -How do you know it's me? 317 00:16:26,855 --> 00:16:29,075 Well if it wasn't you, it was your body double. 318 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,295 -You were wearing a hoody. -So you can't see my face. 319 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:36,343 Now, look, Jono, let's keep this simple. 320 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:40,129 What happened after you ran away from Stevie's flat? 321 00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:41,348 I told ya. 322 00:16:41,826 --> 00:16:43,524 The three of us went to the pictures, 323 00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:44,786 then we went to the chippy. 324 00:16:44,829 --> 00:16:46,483 And what film did you see? 325 00:16:46,527 --> 00:16:48,616 I can't remember. I fell asleep. 326 00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:51,445 It was boring, just like this place. 327 00:16:51,488 --> 00:16:55,405 Jono, mate, we checked the cinema's CCTV. 328 00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:57,364 You weren't there. 329 00:16:58,408 --> 00:17:00,019 [Matt] You've gotta stop lying. 330 00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:06,721 [Ronnie] Jono... 331 00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:10,333 -You miss Danny? -What? 332 00:17:10,638 --> 00:17:12,466 Well, you shared a room with him, didn't you? 333 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:15,077 So what do you think when you look and see an empty bed? Miss him? 334 00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:17,558 -'Course I do. We were mates. -How does that make you feel? 335 00:17:22,302 --> 00:17:23,651 Wish he was still here. 336 00:17:24,217 --> 00:17:25,348 [Ronnie] I bet you do. 337 00:17:28,177 --> 00:17:30,397 I bet you used to look out for each other an' all, eh? 338 00:17:30,701 --> 00:17:32,181 'Course we did. 339 00:17:32,225 --> 00:17:34,531 That's why I reckon that's gotta make you pretty angry 340 00:17:34,575 --> 00:17:36,055 at the person who did this. 341 00:17:40,755 --> 00:17:41,712 Jono... 342 00:17:43,497 --> 00:17:44,585 Tell us what happened. 343 00:17:47,675 --> 00:17:49,546 You think you're so clever, don't you? 344 00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,418 You tell me. 345 00:17:58,555 --> 00:17:59,556 Grub's up. 346 00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:03,299 Andy here's been giving me the silent treatment. 347 00:18:03,343 --> 00:18:05,736 Oh. It's probably 'causes he's hungry. 348 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:12,700 Don't look at 'em like that. They're not poison. 349 00:18:12,743 --> 00:18:14,223 I mean, they were made in our canteen 350 00:18:14,267 --> 00:18:15,572 but nobody's died yet. 351 00:18:18,575 --> 00:18:21,491 We don't want you to say anything you're not comfortable with, Andy. 352 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:24,799 [Natalie] God knows I've drummed it into my own boy. 353 00:18:24,842 --> 00:18:26,627 He's about the same age as you, actually. 354 00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:30,457 I've said, "If ever you get in trouble with the police, 355 00:18:31,414 --> 00:18:33,286 don't sit there and make things up." 356 00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:36,854 That's the mistake everybody makes. 357 00:18:37,986 --> 00:18:40,380 They forget police have got forensics, 358 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:43,383 DNA, CCTV. 359 00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:45,733 They'll know if you're lying. 360 00:18:47,822 --> 00:18:50,303 So, best thing is... 361 00:18:51,565 --> 00:18:52,827 tell the truth. 362 00:18:56,961 --> 00:18:58,833 Everything'll sort itself out. 363 00:19:01,618 --> 00:19:04,795 And there's another big reason why you should tell us the truth, Andy. 364 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:07,363 For Danny. 365 00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:11,672 He's not here to tell us what happened. 366 00:19:13,848 --> 00:19:16,155 As Danny's mate, don't you think you owe him that? 367 00:19:20,855 --> 00:19:22,335 What about Jono? 368 00:19:23,336 --> 00:19:24,685 He's my mate, too. 369 00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:30,169 What if he knows I told you? 370 00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:31,474 We'll look after you. 371 00:19:32,997 --> 00:19:35,174 You don't have to keep quiet any longer, Andy. 372 00:19:41,876 --> 00:19:44,748 Danny wanted some money so he and his mum could get a flat together. 373 00:19:45,967 --> 00:19:48,578 He said Stevie had a load of music gear we could flog. 374 00:19:50,058 --> 00:19:52,669 When we heard someone in the flat, we ran. 375 00:19:53,888 --> 00:19:55,977 One minute, we're legging it and the next, 376 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:57,587 Jono just loses it. 377 00:19:59,589 --> 00:20:00,938 Pushes Danny over, 378 00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:03,550 blames him for people being in the flat. 379 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:14,343 He started smashing his face in... 380 00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:16,737 Stamping on it. 381 00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:21,611 It was like he was trying to bust him open. 382 00:20:23,004 --> 00:20:25,267 [Andy] Never seen nothin' like it before in my life. 383 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:31,752 Jono went mental. 384 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:38,846 So, our prime suspect is a 13-year-old kid 385 00:20:38,889 --> 00:20:40,500 whose voice ain't even broken yet. 386 00:20:40,543 --> 00:20:42,980 I dunno. I need a minute to get my head around this. 387 00:20:43,024 --> 00:20:44,025 Unbelievable. 388 00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:45,766 Well, do you believe Andy's story? 389 00:20:46,114 --> 00:20:48,682 Little kid like Jono does that to his mate? 390 00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:51,337 Well, all the facts all fit and it's definitely possible. 391 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:52,773 I tell you what, if he did do it, 392 00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:54,601 the case could go nuclear, that's for sure. 393 00:20:54,644 --> 00:20:57,778 The press'll be all over him like a rash. Here, CPS. Hello, Alesha. 394 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:11,966 [Jono] Are we done now? Can I go? 395 00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:13,794 Jonathan Blake, 396 00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:16,013 we're charging you with the murder of Daniel Jackson. 397 00:21:22,672 --> 00:21:24,370 [James] I'm gonna need summaries 398 00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:26,415 of all murder or manslaughter cases 399 00:21:26,459 --> 00:21:29,810 from the last 30 years, where the killer was under 16-- 400 00:21:29,853 --> 00:21:32,073 No! Still? Bless. 401 00:21:32,856 --> 00:21:34,293 Play nicely, Bea. 402 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,860 Jono Blake is innocent. He's just a scared little kid 403 00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:39,472 who's been stitched up by his mate and you. 404 00:21:39,515 --> 00:21:42,475 He's on CCTV with Danny minutes before the murder. 405 00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,433 His DNA's all over Danny's body 406 00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:46,783 and his DMs were covered in blood and human matter. 407 00:21:46,827 --> 00:21:48,394 Yeah, well, obviously he was there 408 00:21:48,437 --> 00:21:50,613 but Andy Sefton is bigger, older and stronger. 409 00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,660 What, and that's your defense? Andy did it? 410 00:21:54,965 --> 00:21:57,011 [James] Bea, that's rubbish 411 00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:58,839 The facts don't fit. 412 00:21:58,882 --> 00:22:00,623 It'll take me two minutes to discredit it. 413 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:03,365 Yeah? Well, when the jury look at big old Andy 414 00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:05,411 next to scared, little Jono... 415 00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:08,936 we'll see who they believe. 416 00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:11,547 Seriously, that's your case? 417 00:22:12,722 --> 00:22:14,637 I know her. She's up to something. 418 00:22:14,681 --> 00:22:16,422 That defense is way too simple. 419 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:18,467 [George] Just because you two used to do the headboard shuffle 420 00:22:18,511 --> 00:22:20,121 doesn't mean you have any insight 421 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,341 into how she runs her defenses nowadays. 422 00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:24,343 What, you and her? 423 00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:26,083 Yeah, it was a long time ago. Thanks for that, George. 424 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,476 Stop worrying about her 425 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,173 and ensure your case is unassailable. 426 00:22:29,217 --> 00:22:31,654 Youth crime is our most sensitive issue, 427 00:22:31,698 --> 00:22:33,656 so no cock ups, no surprises. 428 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,092 Triple check every fact. 429 00:22:36,616 --> 00:22:37,921 Go back to the families. 430 00:22:38,531 --> 00:22:40,010 Biological parents, foster parents. 431 00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:42,404 Comprehensive character profile of Jono Blake. 432 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:44,841 -That way, Bea can't spring any traps. -Okay. 433 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,629 Oh, wrong. Come on, son. 434 00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:57,506 Pain au chocolat!How did you know my weakness for the French? 435 00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:59,421 Jono Blake's Social Services file says 436 00:22:59,465 --> 00:23:00,640 he was suspended from school. 437 00:23:00,901 --> 00:23:02,642 Do you know why? 438 00:23:02,685 --> 00:23:04,034 Well, the teacher said there was an altercation in the playground. 439 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:05,514 Did Jono start this altercation? 440 00:23:05,558 --> 00:23:06,863 Half the kids said he did, 441 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:09,039 half said he didn't. This is a bribe, isn't it? 442 00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,041 Can you get statements from all the kids? 443 00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,653 What, all of 'em? You are taking the Michael! 444 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:15,089 We need every angle covered. 445 00:23:15,481 --> 00:23:16,395 Oye. 446 00:23:17,657 --> 00:23:19,528 How come he gets to have breakfast with you? 447 00:23:20,181 --> 00:23:22,531 Leave it to me, sweetheart. I'm your man. 448 00:23:22,575 --> 00:23:24,533 Leave what? What's he doing for you? 449 00:23:25,578 --> 00:23:27,580 You come in late, you miss things. 450 00:23:29,538 --> 00:23:32,454 -Ooh ah, chocolat. -Hey, do you want a coffee? 451 00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:36,937 [woman] I already told the police, 452 00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:39,418 Jono ain't been my problem for a long time now. 453 00:23:40,767 --> 00:23:42,116 Tell me about his dad. 454 00:23:42,943 --> 00:23:44,988 Serving life in Ashbridge with his brother. 455 00:23:45,946 --> 00:23:49,471 Last time he came out, he swore blind he was going straight. 456 00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:51,560 More fool me, ay? 457 00:23:51,604 --> 00:23:54,433 -Was Jono ever violent at home? -He's a boy. 458 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:57,087 They're all little thugs, as far as I can see. 459 00:23:57,523 --> 00:23:59,525 Take a look round here. They're all the same. 460 00:23:59,916 --> 00:24:02,745 -Why was he taken away from you? -I've been through all this. 461 00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:05,139 And I want to hear it from you, so I've got all the facts. 462 00:24:05,618 --> 00:24:08,055 -I left him alone, once. -Overnight? 463 00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:10,492 I went for a drink with a guy after work. 464 00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:12,668 One thing led to another. 465 00:24:12,712 --> 00:24:14,017 Next thing I know, it was morning. 466 00:24:14,061 --> 00:24:15,889 Jono was fine, nothing had happened, 467 00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:19,153 but Social Services loves sticking their noses in, don't they? 468 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:23,897 Sounds like you and Jono have had a rough time. 469 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:25,986 What would you know about a rough time? 470 00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:27,640 I grew up around the corner from here. 471 00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:29,250 Whatever. 472 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,648 [Phoebe] Jono's mum left him alone more than once. 473 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:38,172 He's petrified of being left on his own. 474 00:24:38,694 --> 00:24:40,870 That's why he's always joking and mucking about. 475 00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:43,220 He thinks if you like him, you might stay around. 476 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:45,092 And how did Jono get on with Danny? 477 00:24:45,135 --> 00:24:47,964 They were best mates, practically inseparable. 478 00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,880 Two teenage boys sharing a room? They must have fought a bit. 479 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:53,796 Spent a day and a half sizing each other up. 480 00:24:54,667 --> 00:24:57,234 After that, I don't remember a cross word between them. 481 00:24:57,278 --> 00:24:58,758 They were closer than brothers. 482 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:01,108 So you never saw Jono being violent towards Danny, 483 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,065 or anyone else? 484 00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:05,634 It's not that simple. If he'd had once decent role model, 485 00:25:05,678 --> 00:25:07,027 things might have been different. 486 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,376 He had you. 487 00:25:08,419 --> 00:25:11,510 And he was changing. Kids are work in progress. 488 00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:15,731 I know bad kids. Jono's not one of them. 489 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:18,560 He murdered Danny, Mrs. Baxter. 490 00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:20,954 We have a duty to prosecute Danny's killer. 491 00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:23,043 Whose duty is it to speak for Jono? 492 00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:25,306 [Phoebe] They'll demonize him, lock him away. 493 00:25:25,349 --> 00:25:27,090 Out of sight, out of mind. 494 00:25:27,134 --> 00:25:29,179 If we give up on our kids, it's a matter of time 495 00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:31,007 before they give up on themselves. 496 00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:39,755 Phoebe Baxter and Jono's mum could be talking about two different boys. 497 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,670 Their opinions are that polarized. 498 00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:43,890 Doesn't matter. We deal in evidence, 499 00:25:43,933 --> 00:25:44,978 the facts of this matter. 500 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,937 I feel a conscience pricking. 501 00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:54,204 Jono's foster mum, the person who knows him best, 502 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:55,902 says he shouldn't be abandoned. 503 00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:58,905 She feels that Jono's a victim, too. 504 00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:00,646 [James] Really? 505 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:02,909 'Cause I've just watched the mobile phone footage 506 00:26:02,952 --> 00:26:05,085 of Jono's playground attack on a classmate. 507 00:26:06,086 --> 00:26:07,566 Jono wasn't the victim that day. 508 00:26:08,262 --> 00:26:09,655 He's 13. 509 00:26:09,698 --> 00:26:11,874 He goes into the prison system, he's lost for life. 510 00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,659 Then he shouldn't have committed murder. 511 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:17,097 Now, staunch your bleeding heart, Alesha. The victim is in the mortuary. 512 00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:20,056 We're Crown Prosecution, not Crown empathy. 513 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,362 A line has to be drawn 514 00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:23,233 on youth crime and we're drawing it. 515 00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:24,931 Is that what you think? 516 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,283 I think Danny's mother needs us to provide justice for her son. 517 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:35,202 [man] All persons who have anything to do 518 00:26:35,245 --> 00:26:38,684 with my Lords, the Queen's Justices of the Central Criminal Court, 519 00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:41,251 -draw near... -At least Judge Anderson 520 00:26:41,295 --> 00:26:44,298 agreed to hear the trial in private and keep the public and the press out. 521 00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,169 [man] God save the Queen. 522 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,391 [man] Case of Crown and Jonathan Blake. 523 00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:01,097 Imagine being in that dock when you were 13. 524 00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:15,982 [Andy] I tried to stop him but he just lost it. 525 00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:18,332 It was like he was someone else. 526 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:24,947 Jono kept kicking Danny over and over. 527 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,734 [Andy] I legged it 'cause... 528 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,258 'Cause I was scared. 529 00:27:39,048 --> 00:27:41,181 Out of the three of you, Andy, who's the tallest? 530 00:27:42,922 --> 00:27:45,185 -I am. -And what weight are you? 531 00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:47,883 About ten or 11 stone. 532 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:49,798 [woman] So would you say, 533 00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:51,713 you could beat Danny and Jono in a fight? 534 00:27:55,848 --> 00:27:58,285 -I suppose. -No further questions. 535 00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:03,203 Is that it? 536 00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:05,205 That's it. 537 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:14,127 [Jono] My mum was out when Social Services took me away. 538 00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:16,738 When they took you, how did that make you feel? 539 00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:18,958 Sad. Angry. 540 00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:22,178 But then I went to Mrs. B's. She looked after me. 541 00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:24,877 -Things were all right. -No further questions 542 00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:34,800 Do you start a lot of fights, Jono? 543 00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:36,192 No. 544 00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:39,195 Do you remember Martin Taggart? 545 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,157 Do you remember Martin Taggart, Jono? 546 00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:45,854 Yeah, I went to school with him. 547 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:47,290 You fought with Martin, didn't you? 548 00:28:47,334 --> 00:28:48,378 He started it. 549 00:28:48,422 --> 00:28:49,771 But you were fully aware 550 00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,164 that you were causing him serious injury? 551 00:28:51,207 --> 00:28:53,035 So he shouldn't have started it. 552 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:54,994 [James] And isn't it true that no charges were pressed against you, 553 00:28:55,037 --> 00:28:57,257 because your father intimidated Martin's parents? 554 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,911 What's that got to do with me? 555 00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:00,521 -That fight was nothing. -[James] Nothing? 556 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:03,132 That's how you'd describe it? 557 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:20,802 This mobile phone footage was filmed 558 00:29:20,846 --> 00:29:22,238 by a child in the playground. 559 00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:43,869 Do you still think that was nothing, Jono? 560 00:29:49,657 --> 00:29:52,268 The easiest prosecution I've ever had to make. 561 00:29:52,312 --> 00:29:54,270 She didn't raise a single objection! Why? 562 00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:55,315 You should be delighted. 563 00:29:56,664 --> 00:29:59,058 McArdle's asked for the jury to be discharged. 564 00:29:59,101 --> 00:30:00,799 She's changed the basis of her plea. 565 00:30:01,103 --> 00:30:03,323 -She's put in an application? -[Alesha] For a retrial. 566 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,542 The new defense she's running is that Jono is not guilty 567 00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:07,196 by reason of mental defect. 568 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,589 What? 569 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:10,983 She'll never make it home on an insanity defense. 570 00:30:11,026 --> 00:30:12,462 She's not saying he's insane 571 00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:14,856 She's running 'non-insane automatism, 572 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,162 [Alesha] an involuntary act committed 573 00:30:16,205 --> 00:30:18,077 while not conscious of actions taken'. 574 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,427 Most of Jono's blood relatives are in prison, 575 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:23,430 her defense is that Jono is genetically predisposed 576 00:30:23,473 --> 00:30:24,561 to violent behavior. 577 00:30:24,605 --> 00:30:26,955 Oh, she can't run that! It's outrageous! 578 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,479 We'd have every criminal in the country making the same case. 579 00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:32,439 -What's she playing at? -Don't blame me, blame my genes. 580 00:30:33,657 --> 00:30:36,225 [man] It's bold, I'll give her that. But let's not panic. 581 00:30:36,269 --> 00:30:38,880 No sane judge would let that get beyond a hearing. 582 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:40,403 So who did we draw? 583 00:30:40,447 --> 00:30:42,928 -Judge DeMarco. -Oh... 584 00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:44,233 God, let's panic. 585 00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:46,975 [woman] For over a hundred years now, 586 00:30:47,323 --> 00:30:49,586 scientists have seen a relationship between 587 00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:52,024 genetics and human behavior. 588 00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:54,069 My Lord, relevance to Crown and Blake? 589 00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:56,506 Researchers in Scandinavia have identified 590 00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:59,596 a defective gene that produces an excess 591 00:30:59,988 --> 00:31:03,644 of MAOA, Monoamine oxidase. 592 00:31:03,687 --> 00:31:05,515 [DeMarco] Mono what, Miss McArdle? 593 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,691 Break it down for the luddite in front of you. 594 00:31:07,735 --> 00:31:10,216 Oh, you do yourself a terrible disservice, My Lord. 595 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:11,347 Oh, please. 596 00:31:11,391 --> 00:31:14,046 Monoamine oxidase is an enzyme. 597 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:15,656 It destroys serotonin 598 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:19,442 which, as you know, regulates anger and aggression. 599 00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:23,229 The defective gene responsible for producing this enzyme 600 00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:26,275 is commonly referred to as 'The Warrior Gene'. 601 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:29,017 Okay. And this has 602 00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:32,455 what to do with non-insane automatism? 603 00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,240 Jono has this defective gene. 604 00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:36,503 He couldn't control himself any more 605 00:31:36,546 --> 00:31:37,678 than my learned friend here 606 00:31:37,721 --> 00:31:39,332 could wish himself ten years younger. 607 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,768 You've had him tested? 608 00:31:40,811 --> 00:31:43,684 Conclusions from the Scandinavian panel of experts 609 00:31:43,727 --> 00:31:46,252 where they confirm Jono has the Warrior Gene. 610 00:31:46,513 --> 00:31:49,255 My Lord, if this becomes precedent, 611 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:52,084 we might as well just open the gates of every prison in the land. 612 00:31:52,127 --> 00:31:54,216 With respect, that's not the issue here. 613 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:57,263 We're establishing the validity of putting this before a jury. 614 00:31:57,306 --> 00:31:58,264 Precedent? 615 00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:01,702 You name me one court that has accepted this defense. 616 00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,487 Jerry Robertson is on death row in Arizona. 617 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,012 He was given up for adoption as an infant. 618 00:32:07,055 --> 00:32:09,231 He has not seen nor had any contact 619 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:11,494 with his biological father since that date. 620 00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:14,236 His biological father is also on death row. 621 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,630 -Oh, please! -Case is pending a Supreme Court ruling. 622 00:32:16,673 --> 00:32:21,243 My Lord, science evolves, so too must the law. 623 00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:23,506 My Lord, I will fill the court 624 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:25,552 with experts who will refute this. 625 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,038 Call your experts Mr. Steel. 626 00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,128 [DeMarco] We'll see who the jury believes. 627 00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:41,263 You know for a second in there, 628 00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:43,048 I thought your head was going to explode. 629 00:32:43,091 --> 00:32:45,354 You've got a bloody nerve! You wasted all that public money. 630 00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:46,660 You made a mockery of the system. 631 00:32:46,703 --> 00:32:48,531 Oh you're just miffed I got the better of you! 632 00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:50,446 Don't take it personally, I do this to everyone. 633 00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:53,232 What is this, Bea? Are you grabbing a chance to make the headlines? 634 00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:56,104 No. I'm trying to give my client the best possible defense. 635 00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:58,019 I needed time to get the legal precedent, 636 00:32:58,063 --> 00:33:00,456 Jono's test results, and then to assess the scientific data. 637 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,285 So yes, I used the system. 638 00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:04,808 Something you do every day. 639 00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:06,767 And what would have happened if you'd run out of time? 640 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,334 Jono could have been sent down. 641 00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:11,554 Do you really think I would've let that happen? 642 00:33:11,598 --> 00:33:13,469 What are you so scared of, James? 643 00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,254 Why would you want to suppress evidence? 644 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:16,603 Evidence knows no morality. 645 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,170 We present it and a jury decides. 646 00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:21,173 It's unproven, Bea. The sample group is too small. 647 00:33:21,216 --> 00:33:23,305 It could just push the legal system off a cliff. 648 00:33:23,349 --> 00:33:25,046 Well, then, make that argument in court. 649 00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:27,309 Honestly, the law has survived DNA samples, 650 00:33:27,353 --> 00:33:29,659 CCTV, fingerprints. 651 00:33:29,703 --> 00:33:31,661 I think it will survive this. 652 00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:32,967 And what about Jono Blake? 653 00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:36,275 When this becomes public, the media will tear him to shreds. 654 00:33:36,318 --> 00:33:38,190 I'm doing this for him. 655 00:33:38,581 --> 00:33:39,713 He'll be fine. 656 00:33:44,457 --> 00:33:46,676 This is the English legal system 657 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,287 on the verge of a nervous breakdown. 658 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:50,202 George, what if Bea McArdle is right? 659 00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:53,379 What if this Warrior Gene theory has substance? 660 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:56,730 There was a time when no court accepted provocation as a defense to murder. 661 00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:59,515 Maybe this is one of those moments when the law plays catch up with science. 662 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,256 Well, you just make sure that she's not right. 663 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,824 I want you in that court demolishing her like a bulldozer. 664 00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:05,652 If this Warrior Gene becomes precedent, 665 00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,828 then tens of thousands of cases and old cases 666 00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:09,351 will have to be retried. 667 00:34:09,395 --> 00:34:12,093 No criminal will ever be held responsible 668 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:13,181 or accountable for anything. 669 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:14,400 Notices of appeal. 670 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:15,879 Applications in the event McArdle wins. 671 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:18,099 We'll be drowning in paperwork by the end of the day. 672 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:20,145 Well, you should be happy. You got what you wanted. 673 00:34:20,188 --> 00:34:22,799 Jono has an excuse. Everyone's a victim now. 674 00:34:24,453 --> 00:34:25,715 I'll be at my desk. 675 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:32,896 See that. Seven, no, eight. 676 00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,203 Eight messages from the-- No, that'll be number nine, 677 00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:36,378 messages from the DPP. 678 00:34:36,422 --> 00:34:37,684 He'll be expecting me to tell him 679 00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:39,773 that the legal floodgates will not open, 680 00:34:39,816 --> 00:34:41,427 that this will never become precedent 681 00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:43,124 because I have my best on it, 682 00:34:43,168 --> 00:34:45,126 and he will demolish the defense. 683 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:48,129 So I expect you to go in there and do just that, James. 684 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:57,269 Tell me why you attacked Danny, Jono. 685 00:34:57,747 --> 00:34:58,835 I dunno. 686 00:34:59,749 --> 00:35:01,229 He was driving me mental. 687 00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:03,797 Your eyes lit up when I said that. 688 00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:07,409 Go on, write it down, mental. Do you know how to spell it? 689 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,411 Jono, do you think your attack 690 00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:11,848 on Daniel Jackson was right or wrong? 691 00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:14,373 What sort of a stupid question is that? 692 00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:17,680 Of course it was wrong. 693 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:21,293 I killed him. 694 00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:26,776 He's aware of his actions 695 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:29,127 and the consequences that follow from them. 696 00:35:29,997 --> 00:35:33,174 So he's not insane or schizophrenic? 697 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:34,306 Definitely not. 698 00:35:34,915 --> 00:35:36,264 Tell me, honestly... 699 00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:39,398 Do you think there's any validity 700 00:35:39,441 --> 00:35:40,834 to this Warrior gene syndrome? 701 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:43,706 [James] Can someone be born bad? 702 00:35:44,925 --> 00:35:47,580 Genes are just one element of a larger picture. 703 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,844 And all they give us is a predisposition. 704 00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,803 We still make our own behavioral choices. behavior 705 00:35:53,847 --> 00:35:56,502 Yes or no, is he responsible for what he did? 706 00:35:56,545 --> 00:35:58,895 From everything I've seen... 707 00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:03,509 -Yes. -Thank you. 708 00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:07,469 Though I'm not sure how Jono will cope with the ordeal 709 00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:08,601 of a second trial, 710 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,430 I mean, especially with all this public interest now. 711 00:36:14,607 --> 00:36:15,956 [people screaming] 712 00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:57,519 A few years ago, researchers in Scandinavia 713 00:36:57,563 --> 00:37:01,697 [woman] found a mutated gene linked to a violent family 714 00:37:01,741 --> 00:37:04,352 of rapists and arsonists living in the Netherlands. 715 00:37:04,396 --> 00:37:06,876 And could this Warrior gene 716 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,662 compromise a person's sense of right and wrong? 717 00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:12,273 From the evidence I've seen, I don't believe so. 718 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,319 Thank you, Doctor. No further questions. 719 00:37:19,672 --> 00:37:20,586 Doctor... 720 00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:24,677 Doesn't recent research suggest that obesity 721 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,897 and sporting ability are passed genetically 722 00:37:27,941 --> 00:37:29,856 from parents to their children? 723 00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:31,031 It does, yes. 724 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:34,339 So, by logical extension, we might 725 00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:37,559 pass our criminal behavior to our children? 726 00:37:37,864 --> 00:37:40,388 The data from the Warrior gene tests are not 727 00:37:40,432 --> 00:37:43,261 random enough to form scientific conclusions. 728 00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:45,654 [woman] Their sample bases are too small. 729 00:37:45,698 --> 00:37:48,483 Or they didn't test enough people? 730 00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:49,528 Exactly. 731 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,445 So you're saying that there's a, there's a problem 732 00:37:53,488 --> 00:37:56,622 with the collection of the data but not the theory? 733 00:38:10,462 --> 00:38:11,245 Are you proud? 734 00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:14,466 Are you proud of what you're doing, 735 00:38:14,509 --> 00:38:15,684 of what you're saying in there? 736 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,949 Of all these lies and arguments and legal bullshit? 737 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:24,389 My Danny never hurt anybody! 738 00:38:25,564 --> 00:38:28,393 That monster in there is not the victim! 739 00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:30,482 -[man] Go on. -You're disgusting. 740 00:38:31,613 --> 00:38:32,701 [Mandy] Get off! 741 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:49,501 I'm fine. 742 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:51,981 Thank you. 743 00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:00,990 [Tracy] From the day he was born, 744 00:39:01,034 --> 00:39:02,427 we knew he was different. 745 00:39:04,603 --> 00:39:06,039 There was something odd about him. 746 00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:09,347 We just didn't know what it was. 747 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:11,523 Not till now. 748 00:39:12,915 --> 00:39:14,482 Well, you know your son better than anyone, Tracy. 749 00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:17,703 Do you agree with the Warrior gene theory? 750 00:39:18,007 --> 00:39:20,575 You saw what he did to that kid. It makes sense. 751 00:39:21,097 --> 00:39:22,098 Thank you. 752 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:37,375 Did you discipline your son, Mrs. Blake? 753 00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:39,899 Jack hit him all the time. 754 00:39:39,942 --> 00:39:41,509 It didn't make any difference, though. 755 00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:43,468 [Tracy] He never did what he was told. 756 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:46,949 How about love, showing him some affection? 757 00:39:47,254 --> 00:39:49,604 -Did you ever try that? -'Course I did 758 00:39:55,088 --> 00:39:57,003 I used to think it was my fault. 759 00:39:57,743 --> 00:40:00,572 -What do you mean? -I wasn't a good enough mum! 760 00:40:01,747 --> 00:40:03,401 That I didn't deserve a kid! 761 00:40:05,228 --> 00:40:07,666 But that was before all this gene stuff. 762 00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:10,712 [Tracy] Now I know there was nothing I could have done. 763 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:12,584 It wouldn't have made any difference. 764 00:40:13,628 --> 00:40:14,934 Papers are right. 765 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:18,024 He's a monster. 766 00:40:28,164 --> 00:40:30,863 Is that what you really think about your own son? 767 00:40:31,516 --> 00:40:33,953 You heard what they're saying about him, his genes are rotten. 768 00:40:35,302 --> 00:40:36,477 He's wrong. 769 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:41,743 How many months' pregnant are you? 770 00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:42,701 Seven. 771 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:44,877 So, based on your belief in genes, 772 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,269 we should take that baby from your arms 773 00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:48,184 -the second it's born and lock it up? -No! 774 00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:49,795 Well, surely genetics dictates 775 00:40:49,838 --> 00:40:51,492 that your next child will be a monster, too? 776 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:54,930 It'll be different this time. I won't make the same mistakes I made with him. 777 00:41:05,985 --> 00:41:07,508 No further questions. 778 00:41:21,304 --> 00:41:22,523 Snap. 779 00:41:31,663 --> 00:41:32,881 Are we still talking? 780 00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,624 Oh, come on. 781 00:41:36,668 --> 00:41:38,583 I'm running a valid defense for Jono. 782 00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:41,324 You'd have done exactly the same back in your defense days. 783 00:41:41,368 --> 00:41:43,849 I gave up defense 'cause I couldn't sleep at night. 784 00:41:46,242 --> 00:41:48,201 Yeah, I remember. 785 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:55,991 -Do you sleep better now? -Mostly. 786 00:41:58,994 --> 00:42:00,735 Can't believe you still come here. 787 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:03,129 Creature of habit. 788 00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:09,265 -How's Ethan? -He's... 789 00:42:10,397 --> 00:42:12,965 with his mum in Scotland. 790 00:42:15,663 --> 00:42:16,882 It's for the best. 791 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:18,884 Mostly. 792 00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:22,757 Jono wants to meet with you. 793 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:26,892 I tried my best, I advised him against it. 794 00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:31,723 Nine o' clock tomorrow. My office. 795 00:42:32,158 --> 00:42:32,985 Thank you... 796 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,075 for not making that difficult for me. 797 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:41,210 This isn't a holiday home, you know. 798 00:42:41,254 --> 00:42:42,603 You'll be going in for years. 799 00:42:42,951 --> 00:42:44,257 My genes are messed up. 800 00:42:45,214 --> 00:42:48,609 I am trying to keep you out of prison. 801 00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:51,264 [Jono] Why? You can't fix my genes, 802 00:42:52,178 --> 00:42:53,658 sat in court. 803 00:42:53,701 --> 00:42:55,834 I heard everything my mum had to say. I'm a monster. 804 00:42:55,877 --> 00:42:57,662 -Jono, no, you're not. -I am. 805 00:42:58,053 --> 00:42:59,359 I was born like that. 806 00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:01,796 I'm a mistake. 807 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,885 That's not what this is all about. 808 00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:06,975 I killed Danny. 809 00:43:09,238 --> 00:43:10,370 He was my mate. 810 00:43:12,111 --> 00:43:13,068 Jono. 811 00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:16,681 Why did you ask to meet us? 812 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:20,772 I wanna go to prison. 813 00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:22,774 It's where I belong. 814 00:43:28,954 --> 00:43:31,957 We helped destroy him. Now he believes he's worthless. 815 00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:36,788 Is Danny dead? Yes. 816 00:43:37,832 --> 00:43:40,966 [man] Did Jono kill him? Yes. 817 00:43:42,097 --> 00:43:43,882 Has justice been served? 818 00:43:44,796 --> 00:43:45,797 Yes. 819 00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:49,670 The law's a blunt instrument but it's all we have. 820 00:43:50,715 --> 00:43:51,803 So, yes... 821 00:43:52,978 --> 00:43:54,196 Accept the plea. 822 00:43:56,024 --> 00:43:59,332 Jono, do you understand the charge to which you're pleading guilty? 823 00:44:00,812 --> 00:44:01,726 Yeah. 824 00:44:02,465 --> 00:44:03,336 Murder. 825 00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,339 [DeMarco] Can you tell us in your own words 826 00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:08,994 what happened on the night of Danny's death? 827 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:10,648 I got in a fight with him. 828 00:44:12,824 --> 00:44:16,044 When he went to the ground, I kicked him over and over. 829 00:44:18,003 --> 00:44:18,830 I killed him. 830 00:44:20,788 --> 00:44:22,703 [DeMarco] Why did you kill him, Jono? 831 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:23,661 He made me mad. 832 00:44:24,226 --> 00:44:27,099 And you understand what it means 833 00:44:27,142 --> 00:44:28,927 changing your plea to guilty? 834 00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:30,363 Please. 835 00:44:55,214 --> 00:44:56,432 It was a defense. 836 00:44:57,999 --> 00:45:00,480 I never thought for one second he'd actually believe it. 837 00:45:14,537 --> 00:45:16,061 Come for the last laugh? 838 00:45:24,243 --> 00:45:25,810 [James] Dr. Elizabeth Rowels. 839 00:45:28,813 --> 00:45:30,728 She's prepared to work with you. 840 00:45:32,512 --> 00:45:34,079 She can help you. 841 00:45:34,122 --> 00:45:36,821 I'm a murderer. I was always gonna be like this. 842 00:45:37,909 --> 00:45:38,910 No. 843 00:45:40,825 --> 00:45:42,130 None of us are... 844 00:45:43,088 --> 00:45:45,090 defined by our genes. 845 00:45:46,265 --> 00:45:48,049 I am. I'm evil. 846 00:45:55,491 --> 00:45:56,754 That's... 847 00:45:58,843 --> 00:46:00,975 That's too easy, because... 848 00:46:03,108 --> 00:46:06,938 it means that nobody else has to take responsibility. 849 00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:13,466 You're too young to be a lost cause. 850 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:17,992 We can still help you, 851 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:20,125 if you'd let us. 852 00:46:28,133 --> 00:46:29,177 Please. 853 00:46:50,242 --> 00:46:51,286 [door opens] 61456

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