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[Billy Porter] Love always wins.
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[Billy] Disco is love.
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Disco is a celebration of love.
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Disco is a celebration of life.
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A celebration of hope.
A celebration of humanity.
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That's what it is.
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It felt like family,
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in the disco sound.
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♪♪♪
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[Nile Rodgers] Everybody
supported everybody.
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That was the thing that was
so cool in the seventies.
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Disco felt, to me, more
revolutionary than the Panthers.
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During the disco movement,
you could come
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from any background
and you just fit in
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and nobody felt uncomfortable.
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Everybody was... was down
for everybody.
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And it was like, "Let's make
the best out of a bad time."
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And that's what we did.
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And as it went away, the world
got more divided.
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[Steve Dahl] Us rock and rollers
here in Chicago,
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think Disco sucks!
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[crowd chanting] Disco sucks!
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[Steve] This is now
officially the world's largest
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anti-disco rally.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Steve] We took all
the disco records
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that you brought tonight,
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we got 'em in a giant box.
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And we're gonna blow 'em up
real good.
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[crowd cheering]
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[explosions]
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[crowd chanting] Disco sucks!
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♪ Lost in Music ♪
by Sister Sledge
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♪♪♪
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♪ Can't take away my music ♪
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♪ I'm caught up in my music ♪
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♪♪♪
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♪ No turning back,
uh-uh ♪
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♪ Lost, ooh ♪
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♪ We're lost in music ♪
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♪ Caught in the trap ♪
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♪ No turning back ♪
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♪ We're lost in music ♪
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♪ We're lost in music ♪
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♪ Caught in the trap ♪
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♪ No turning back ♪
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♪ No turning back ♪
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♪ We're lost in music ♪
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♪ We're lost in music ♪
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[Nicky Siano] From
a very young age,
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I knew that I was attracted
to the same sex.
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[Nicky] Being gay was not okay,
especially in Brooklyn.
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I would get beat up regularly.
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'Faggot' was a word
I heard almost daily.
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It makes you feel scared
all the time.
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There were no celebrity
gay people.
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There were no out stars.
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There was no one on TV
that was gay.
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I'm living in that world.
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[Nicky] And a friend of mine,
when I'm 13, says to me,
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"You know, there's a place I
found, the West Village."
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And I went down
to the West Village,
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and here's this place
with men, same sex,
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women, same sex,
talking together,
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laughing together,
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even holding hands and
walking down the street.
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I was amazed.
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[Nile] New York
and Greenwich Village
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was probably the hippest,
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most liberal place to grow up.
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My parents' friends were
bebop musicians.
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You know, I could come home
and I'd see Nina Simone
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or Thelonious Monk
or Miles Davis
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hanging out at our crib.
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That was like,
pretty normal stuff.
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[Agosto Machado]
I'm a street queen,
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Christopher Street Queen.
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A lot of us didn't have
a steady place to live.
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Our gay community could be gay
wherever they were.
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And New York was the Mecca.
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They came in such numbers,
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and the music was
being so vocal.
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♪ Ooh-ooh ♪
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♪ There's something
in the air ♪
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[Nile] Being a
Greenwich Village kid,
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a hippie, downtown kid,
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I started to become a little bit
more politicized.
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They had formed
a section called
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Lower Manhattan
Black Panther Party.
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All power to the people.
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[Nile] And I wanted
to be in with them.
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So there was every kind
of march that would go past
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my apartment and school
every day,
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be it the teachers strike
or women's lib
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or gay lib, whatever.
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[Nicky] There's still laws
on the book
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that are preventing us from
being who we are.
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Like two people of the same sex
cannot dance together
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on the dance floor.
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There were a couple of others,
you know, sodomy.
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All that stuff was
against the law.
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♪ Right now ♪
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♪ Right now ♪
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♪ Right ♪
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♪ Right now ♪
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[Nicky] And there was a place
called The Stonewall.
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It was a bar.
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[Nicky] The cops go
into Stonewall,
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they bust the place because
people are dancing together.
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And they regularly do this.
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They start charging people,
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and they take them out
to a paddy wagon
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that's waiting outside.
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♪ The revolution will
not be televised ♪
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♪ No ♪
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[Mark Riley] The gay community
had endured it,
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and endured it,
and endured it.
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And that night at Stonewall,
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they just chose not to
endure it anymore.
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[Agosto] The collective
anger unleashed us
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and we were pushing
and shoving.
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It got larger and larger,
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and more people were coming,
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and then they set fires to the
trashcans and what have you.
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[Mark] And it turned into
five days of riots.
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[Nicky] On the second night,
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I walk out of the subway
and Sixth Avenue,
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there's people blocking
the traffic.
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[crowd chanting] Hey, hey!
We don't over-populate!
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[Nicky] And that's
like unheard of.
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And there's this guy going
with around a clipboard.
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"Can you get arrested?
Can you get arrested?"
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I was like, "No way.
I can't get arrested!"
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I don't know who
was organizing this,
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but they were ready
like Freddie.
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[Speaker] Obviously, if we're
to obtain all the rights
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we deserve, we have to be
willing to fight for them.
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We need an alternative
to the mafia bars,
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and an alternative to just
sitting on the stoops.
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♪ I said will not be televised ♪
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♪ It just won't be televised ♪
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They rioted every night
until Lindsay,
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who was the mayor,
came on and said,
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"We're going to do
everything we can.
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We're going to change this law."
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♪♪♪
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♪ The revolution
is gonna be live ♪
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[Mark] In 1971, it led to
that law being repealed.
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That was the one thing that
opened the ability of gay clubs
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to survive legally more than
anything else that happened.
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[Jellybean Benitez]
I was really young
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when I started DJ-ing.
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I was like 15, 16.
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I DJ-ed in my room.
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Sweet 16s, school dances,
parties.
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I was always attracted to music
that was very soulful.
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For the most part, it was
up-tempo R&B.
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[Earl Young] Back in the day,
everybody had a house party.
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House parties put people in
touch with music so much.
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They had the little record
players, the little 45s
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where the record drops.
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I was heavily influenced
by Gamble and Huff
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from Philadelphia International,
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and all the records they made.
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The O'Jays or Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes
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or MFSB,
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which is Mother, Father,
Sister, Brother.
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[Mark] Philly was
a moment in time.
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Rhythm & Blues before that,
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there wasn't a lot of
instrumentation
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because they didn't spend
that much money
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putting those songs together.
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Well, Philly developed its
own unique sound:
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the use of lush strings,
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a gospel inflection to
a lot of the vocals.
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Urban sophistication
at its best.
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And it's music that literally
drove people to dance.
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♪♪♪
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Those grooves were
so infectious
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that you could play anything
by Gamble and Huff,
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and you'd get an
immediate reaction
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and people just vibe to it.
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The root of like all dance music
that's on the soulful side.
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[Earl] We cut and wrote songs
that people can relate to,
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like Love Is The Message.
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These are songs that bring
people together.
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So we came in there
and we banged out hits.
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♪♪♪
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A lot of the songs were slow,
like The Love I Lost.
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[Earl] This was not disco music.
This was basically R&B stuff.
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Back then, most of the time
they looked for the drummer
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to set the pace, and they
deliver the grooves.
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They weren't...
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they didn't really tell
drummers what to play.
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I say, "Look, let's put this,
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let's put this in
another groove."
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[Earl chuckles]
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That's the groove that I used
on The Love I Lost.
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They weren't really a disco
group until I came in
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with that groove.
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♪♪♪
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That's the 'four on the floor',
that's a walking beat.
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The bass drum, to me,
is people walking like...
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♪♪♪
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And the high-hat, to me,
is a melody.
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[drumming]
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[Nicky] Earl Young is the beat
of disco, no doubt about it.
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What he did with The Love I Lost
when it came out,
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the epitome of the club drummer.
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♪♪♪
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The standard disco beat
with the bass drum,
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the 'four on the floor.'
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[drumming]
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Now you've got to add
the high-hat next.
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You can add it open or closed.
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I'll do it closed first.
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[drumming]
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Now I'll do it with it open.
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[drumming]
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Now I'm going to add
the snare drum.
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[drumming]
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That's basic disco.
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[drumming]
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Bad luck.
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[applause]
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[Earl] We brought soul
to New York.
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Little clubs in New York
supported us
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from the very beginning.
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[Vince Aletti] I was always
really drawn to the stories
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of records, about records,
but about concerts
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and things that I was
interested in.
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I wrote about disco
really early on,
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before it had a name.
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I started going to several clubs
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in the early Seventies.
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I realized that there was a
whole other underground
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of music.
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[Nicky] I'm on
Christopher Street
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and I'm hearing this music,
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and I'm going, "What is this?"
you know.
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And I'm hearing this music,
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and every time someone
comes out, I'm saying,
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"What's that song?
What's that song?"
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Radio was not playing
this music.
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[Vince] The most obvious
turning point for me
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was going to
David Mancuso's Loft,
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where I heard a lot of music
that I really loved,
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that I hadn't heard
anywhere else.
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[Mark] I had heard that
The Loft was this place,
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it was underground,
it was private.
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You had to know someone
to get in.
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You had to be a member, or you
had to know somebody
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who was already a member.
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But it never felt exclusive
the way clubs later did.
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[Nicky] It was in the winter.
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I was at a party
and they were playing
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this really lame like
Rock and Roll music
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that no one was dancing to.
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And I started putting on some of
the Soul music that I had.
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A girl who was there said,
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"Hey, you want to go
to The Loft with me?"
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That's how I got invited
to The Loft.
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[Mark] And these guys held the
key to me going to The Loft.
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And they said, "Listen,
do you have a problem
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with gay people?
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This place is not all gay,
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but there are going to be
a substantial number
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of gay people there.
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You're going to see guys
dancing with guys.
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And if that bothers you,
forget we invited you."
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And I said, "Oh no, I'm going!"
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[Nicky] It was 647 Broadway.
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I'll never forget that address.
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And it looks like a
broken-down factory.
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So the door opens,
the stairs are all rickety.
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And the thing about The Loft
was you knew them
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even though you didn't
know them
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because you had one thing
in common - the music.
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$2.99 each, and the door opens,
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and it's dark in there.
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It's, I mean, I couldn't
see anything.
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When we go in, the door closes
behind and it's dark.
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And then all of a sudden, I see
that huge mirrored ball.
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It was big,
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and the spots are flying
around the wall,
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the snare hits...
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a bright, bright light flashes.
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Everyone started screaming!
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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The sound was gorgeous.
It was beautiful.
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Like I was at a symphony.
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Like I was in a theater.
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[Loose Key Jr.] Okay, so
there's this white guy,
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with long hair, who looks like
Jesus, that's playing music.
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He knew how to take that
song from beginning,
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middle to end,
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take you on a journey to bring
you up and bring you down,
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and bring you up, and bring you
down, and bring you up.
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He had a method to his madness,
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which we really appreciated
because it challenged us
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as dancers to go to that level.
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[David Mancuso] Anything that
you're doing with audio
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must be as pure as possible.
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We're all spiritually connected.
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You can't capture
anything that's free.
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Free in spirit.
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♪♪♪
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[Jellybean] I went
to The Loft.
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I'd never seen anything like it
because it was like...
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we were in a party,
but it was in his house.
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So it's like car keys were
there, the mail was there,
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dishes in the sink,
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and it'd be three to four
hundred people in there dancing.
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And it... It was not Studio 54,
it was a loft.
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So it wasn't something
like, you know,
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some grand sort of place.
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It was a loft, but great music.
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[Jellybean] He didn't
mix beat to beat,
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so the songs would end,
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and then the audience
would just clap,
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and then he'd play
the next song.
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♪♪♪
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[Nicky] I had never
seen anything like this.
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[Mark] The Loft was magic.
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It was very simply magic.
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I loved it. I loved
everything about it.
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[Mark] David used
to always say,
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"If you can get groups of people
from different backgrounds,
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different income groups,
different races,
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creeds, colors, sexuality.
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If you can put them all in a
room and get them to dance,
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that's the beginning
of social progress."
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That was the interesting
part of it,
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and that's where
people connected.
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That's very important
to me, okay?
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And The Loft was a community.
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If you didn't have money, as
long as you had an invitation,
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you got in.
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♪♪♪
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[Nile] The Loft.
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There would be no Nile Rodgers
if it wasn't for those clubs.
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I mean, this underground
New York club scene
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was phenomenal.
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And that, to me is one
of the greatest things
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that came out of this
thing called disco.
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It was a leveler
in a way, for...
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for different people
who had differences,
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that they could come
together and dance
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and enjoy themselves,
and love the same music.
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♪♪♪
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[Joe Bataan] The first
wave was the R&B,
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then Rock and Roll,
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and then the Boogaloo
came along.
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[Mark] What's interesting about
the influence of Latin music,
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it was part geographic.
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Growing up in East Harlem,
you know, we had everybody.
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The Italians, Jews,
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Blacks, Puerto Ricans.
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We all had to get along.
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And music engulfed
the whole neighborhood
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because you could hear it coming
out of the fire escapes,
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people singing out
of the subways.
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♪♪♪
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[Loose] It started in 1972
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from the Latino kids
in the Bronx
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getting away from doing salsa,
which was a quote unquote
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"dance that was done
by their parents."
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The younger kids didn't
want to do that,
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and they figured out
how to do the Hustle.
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00:19:16,112 --> 00:19:17,406
♪♪♪
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[Joe] I recorded
my first songs,
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which were Boogaloo songs.
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00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:23,328
I started to get away
from that style
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00:19:23,494 --> 00:19:26,247
and I kept looking
for different things.
407
00:19:26,372 --> 00:19:28,666
I started to attend
the nightclubs,
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which nobody was doing
back then.
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00:19:31,043 --> 00:19:32,420
[Mark] One of the first places
that really kind of stuck
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in my mind was a place
called the Sanctuary.
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Francis Grasso.
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He was one of the people
to play music
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in a kind of mixed concept.
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To hear records segue
into another
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was completely
something different
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that nobody had been doing.
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00:19:51,814 --> 00:19:54,693
And then I saw kids dancing
with one another.
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It didn't matter who you were.
They were doing freestyle.
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It was no set movement
in what they were doing.
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And I said, "Whoa!"
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00:20:01,908 --> 00:20:05,704
And you can imagine what was
going through my mind.
422
00:20:06,746 --> 00:20:11,542
A lot of people didn't know that
I didn't need the radio.
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00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:15,047
I could influence people
through clubs.
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00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,882
♪♪♪
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[Mark] From that early
era of clubs,
426
00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:23,472
'cause they didn't call it
a disco or a club,
427
00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:26,058
it was, you know,
you come to a party.
428
00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:28,976
In the same way as Rock and Roll
had to be given a name,
429
00:20:29,101 --> 00:20:32,897
instead of "Race music",
it became Rock and Roll,
430
00:20:33,022 --> 00:20:35,775
music that was house music,
that was dance music
431
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:39,279
that we danced to became
known as "Disco."
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00:20:39,445 --> 00:20:42,282
Vince Aletti wrote an article
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00:20:42,448 --> 00:20:46,410
and coined the phrase "Disco."
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00:20:46,535 --> 00:20:48,621
♪♪♪
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00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:53,335
[Mark] And Vince manages
to capture the sense
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00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,419
of what those spaces were like,
437
00:20:55,544 --> 00:20:58,255
and the effect that
that music had.
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00:20:58,423 --> 00:21:02,927
What did feel unique, it felt
like you were hearing,
439
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,597
you know, somebody's
work of art.
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00:21:05,763 --> 00:21:07,599
It's one of the things that
really made me want
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00:21:07,724 --> 00:21:09,434
to think more seriously
about club music,
442
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,356
and about the talent that it
took to be a really good DJ.
443
00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:16,191
♪ Funky Nassau ♪ by The
Beginning of the End
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00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:19,194
♪ Nassau's gone funky ♪
445
00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,029
♪ Nassau's gone soul ♪
446
00:21:21,154 --> 00:21:23,740
♪♪♪
447
00:21:27,118 --> 00:21:31,497
♪♪♪
448
00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:34,458
♪ Oh yeah, funky Nassau ♪
449
00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:36,378
♪ Funky Nassau ♪
450
00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:38,379
♪ Funky Nassau ♪
451
00:21:38,504 --> 00:21:40,464
♪ Funky Nassau ♪
452
00:21:40,631 --> 00:21:42,551
♪ Funky Nassau ♪
453
00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:43,385
♪ Funky Nassau ♪
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00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:45,846
♪ Huh ♪
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[Nicky] I'm seeing the
invention of dance floor things.
456
00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:54,478
And I'm understanding that
457
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:58,734
this is a very new
kind of industry.
458
00:21:58,859 --> 00:22:00,569
I started playing
records in 1971,
459
00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:05,157
and that took me
into the winter of '72.
460
00:22:05,322 --> 00:22:09,994
I start thinking the only way
I'm going to do something
461
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,666
like The Loft, where I can
really create atmosphere
462
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:18,003
like David was doing,
is to own the place.
463
00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:20,422
That's the only way
it will happen.
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And I opened in
February of 1973.
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I was still 17.
466
00:22:27,887 --> 00:22:31,683
This was the back entrance
to The Gallery.
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00:22:31,849 --> 00:22:34,101
This was not here.
468
00:22:34,226 --> 00:22:38,189
People would come outside
because it would be hot inside,
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00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,107
especially in the summer,
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00:22:39,232 --> 00:22:41,025
and they would hang
out over here.
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00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:44,361
♪♪♪
472
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[Nicky] Initially, any bar would
throw two speakers up
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00:22:49,076 --> 00:22:50,534
and be a club.
474
00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:54,414
This, we walked in and we
painted the canvas.
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00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:56,707
And a lot of people call
it the first disco,
476
00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,043
and it really was.
477
00:22:59,168 --> 00:23:03,548
It was really the first space
that was stepping forward
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00:23:03,714 --> 00:23:06,760
in the design of clubs
was The Gallery.
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00:23:06,926 --> 00:23:09,137
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
480
00:23:09,262 --> 00:23:11,388
♪ Oh no ♪
481
00:23:11,514 --> 00:23:12,724
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
482
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,476
♪ Oh no ♪
483
00:23:15,601 --> 00:23:17,646
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
484
00:23:17,771 --> 00:23:20,232
♪ I can see the rain, y'all ♪
485
00:23:20,397 --> 00:23:22,984
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
486
00:23:23,109 --> 00:23:23,693
♪ I can see the rain, yeah ♪
487
00:23:23,819 --> 00:23:26,612
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
488
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:28,572
♪ I can feel the rain ♪
489
00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,451
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
490
00:23:31,618 --> 00:23:32,577
♪ Oh, I can feel the rain,
yeah ♪
491
00:23:32,743 --> 00:23:35,955
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
492
00:23:36,122 --> 00:23:37,749
♪ My body's soaking wet, y'all ♪
493
00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:39,835
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
494
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,253
♪ Oh, my body's soaking wet,
y'all ♪
495
00:23:42,419 --> 00:23:44,423
♪ It's gonna rain, yeah ♪
496
00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:47,300
♪ Oh, my body's soaking wet ♪
497
00:23:47,466 --> 00:23:48,592
[Vince] Nicky Siano,
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00:23:48,717 --> 00:23:50,928
I think was one of
the Wild Men of disco.
499
00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:54,349
Nicky was just,
you know, out there,
500
00:23:54,474 --> 00:23:58,435
and his crowd was out there
along with him.
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00:23:58,602 --> 00:24:00,981
♪♪♪
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00:24:01,147 --> 00:24:03,358
[Freddie Taylor] If it was a
big change from one record
503
00:24:03,483 --> 00:24:04,943
to another, that was fabulous.
504
00:24:05,109 --> 00:24:06,653
Everybody would be jumping up
on the floor and screaming
505
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,656
like a mass orgasm, verbally.
506
00:24:09,822 --> 00:24:15,119
I remember this guy who walked
in the first night we opened.
507
00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,289
And he goes,
508
00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,456
"The future!" [laughs]
509
00:24:19,582 --> 00:24:20,666
That's what he says.
510
00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:22,127
Let me tell you, this place
is a joint.
511
00:24:22,293 --> 00:24:23,837
This is the kind of place
you could bring
512
00:24:24,003 --> 00:24:25,629
any one of your cool friends.
513
00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:27,299
They have all types of people,
514
00:24:27,464 --> 00:24:30,135
they have people who dance,
people pop up and down.
515
00:24:30,301 --> 00:24:32,471
You can get high,
stay here all night.
516
00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:34,763
You can live at The Gallery
every Saturday night.
517
00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:37,141
I mean, there were a few
gay clubs in the city,
518
00:24:37,266 --> 00:24:40,728
but, you know, there was kinda
sort of stereotypical gay clubs.
519
00:24:40,853 --> 00:24:43,522
The Gallery was something that
was completely different.
520
00:24:43,689 --> 00:24:44,733
Myself and Larry Levan
were probably
521
00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:48,153
the most popular black kids
hanging out.
522
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:52,157
And I hired Frankie at the end
of that first night
523
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,743
to work for me as my decorator.
524
00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:58,370
And he brought Larry along,
and he said,
525
00:24:58,538 --> 00:25:01,916
"This guy's a little bit crazy,
but he's really talented."
526
00:25:02,041 --> 00:25:03,835
And I said, "Okay, we can
use the help."
527
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,005
[Mark] Larry and Frankie came
up under Nicky's tutelage.
528
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:11,217
There were days that all three
of us were in the booth
529
00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:12,676
and he was teaching us
how to actually operate
530
00:25:12,801 --> 00:25:15,512
the equipment,
how to listen to music
531
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,057
and what to listen for.
532
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:20,726
♪♪♪
533
00:25:20,894 --> 00:25:23,396
[Nicky] And eventually
they become DJs.
534
00:25:23,562 --> 00:25:25,689
Frankie, the Godfather of House.
535
00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:27,817
Larry, the Paradise Garage.
536
00:25:29,151 --> 00:25:33,865
Listening to Nicky,
he spins a story.
537
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:35,699
[Frankie] He always
stressed to us,
538
00:25:35,824 --> 00:25:37,702
"You need to know your music."
539
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:39,745
Because people who
went to the clubs -
540
00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:42,624
back then in the beginning -
541
00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:46,543
heard basically the same
songs at every club
542
00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:49,589
because they were only so many
songs to be played
543
00:25:49,755 --> 00:25:52,634
that were danceable,
that we liked.
544
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:57,097
Walter Gibbons, Jellybean
and other DJs
545
00:25:57,263 --> 00:25:59,599
used to always hang
around my booth
546
00:25:59,765 --> 00:26:01,725
to see what I was playing.
547
00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:03,227
♪♪♪
548
00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:04,603
I would be there with
a pad and a pen
549
00:26:04,771 --> 00:26:07,648
and every record that he played
that I didn't know what it was,
550
00:26:07,773 --> 00:26:09,900
I'd go up and ask him
what it is.
551
00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:12,779
I was such a pain. [laughs]
552
00:26:12,945 --> 00:26:14,906
He talks about it to me
what he sees me.
553
00:26:15,072 --> 00:26:16,241
"I'm going to play this record.
554
00:26:16,407 --> 00:26:16,907
I know this kid's going
to come up here
555
00:26:17,074 --> 00:26:17,826
and ask me what it is."
556
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:20,244
[chuckles]
557
00:26:20,369 --> 00:26:21,745
And then in the later days,
they would hang around
558
00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:23,831
my booth to see if I passed out
559
00:26:23,956 --> 00:26:27,627
and they needed a DJ
to fill in for me.
560
00:26:27,793 --> 00:26:29,253
♪♪♪
561
00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:32,965
[Nicky] I didn't look at
what genre it was.
562
00:26:33,132 --> 00:26:33,757
Was it danceable?
563
00:26:33,882 --> 00:26:36,343
Did it have a musical break?
564
00:26:36,468 --> 00:26:39,930
And if it's vocal, does it
have a message?
565
00:26:40,098 --> 00:26:43,268
♪ Soul Makossa ♪ by Manu Dibango
566
00:26:43,393 --> 00:26:45,477
♪♪♪
567
00:26:45,645 --> 00:26:46,771
[Nicky] Soul Makossa,
568
00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:52,944
that record became
a huge hit for the DJs
569
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:54,279
and for club music.
570
00:26:54,404 --> 00:27:00,201
And without any airplay, it
started to climb to sales chart.
571
00:27:00,327 --> 00:27:01,828
♪♪♪
572
00:27:01,994 --> 00:27:05,122
[Nicky] Record companies
started noticing it.
573
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:07,833
Atlantic Records picks up
the import,
574
00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:10,669
puts it out and starts
promoting it.
575
00:27:10,837 --> 00:27:13,464
♪♪♪
576
00:27:13,589 --> 00:27:16,467
[Nicky] In the bottom of all
this are the radio stations.
577
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:17,968
♪♪♪
578
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:23,015
[Nicky] Radio stations were
a very powerful network,
579
00:27:23,183 --> 00:27:27,478
and they were being
forced to play records
580
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:33,400
that they hadn't wanted
to play before.
581
00:27:33,525 --> 00:27:36,737
These were records that were
just part of the fabric
582
00:27:36,862 --> 00:27:39,741
of New York City dance culture,
583
00:27:39,866 --> 00:27:41,158
as well as the hip-hop culture.
584
00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:41,993
They were just big
New York records.
585
00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:44,329
♪ Lady Marmalade ♪ by Labelle
586
00:27:44,495 --> 00:27:47,916
♪ Hey sister, go sister,
go sister, go sister ♪
587
00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:50,502
♪ Hey sister, go sister,
go sister, go sister ♪
588
00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:54,505
♪ He met Marmalade down
in old New Orleans ♪
589
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,341
♪ Struttin' her stuff
on the street ♪
590
00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:00,177
♪ She said, Hello, hey Joe ♪
591
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:01,721
♪ You wanna give it a go? ♪
592
00:28:01,887 --> 00:28:06,016
♪ Yeah, gitchie-gitchie
yeah-yeah-da-da ♪
593
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,560
♪ Gitchie-gitchie
yeah-yeah here ♪
594
00:28:07,726 --> 00:28:11,188
At the time, we weren't
trying to make a song
595
00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:13,983
that would fit into some
sort of category.
596
00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:18,405
♪ Creole Lady Marmalade ♪
597
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:20,907
[Nona] For LaBelle,
the Continental Baths
598
00:28:21,073 --> 00:28:22,908
was really most significant
599
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:26,705
in terms of gay nightlife.
600
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:28,205
♪♪♪
601
00:28:28,330 --> 00:28:31,917
It was really a bathhouse
where guys went to meet.
602
00:28:32,085 --> 00:28:35,714
They were in towels
as we performed,
603
00:28:35,879 --> 00:28:39,216
and we were like... there.
604
00:28:39,341 --> 00:28:40,968
When you're that
close to people,
605
00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:45,974
it was a very call and response
type of interaction.
606
00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:48,810
And you're singing and
they're responding.
607
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:50,936
It is like being in church.
608
00:28:51,103 --> 00:28:56,109
♪ Marmalade ♪
609
00:28:56,275 --> 00:28:57,734
♪ Voulez-vous coucher
avec moi? ♪
610
00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:59,820
[Nona] We were kind of
matching our audience.
611
00:28:59,945 --> 00:29:01,406
The more flamboyant we became,
612
00:29:01,531 --> 00:29:02,823
the more flamboyant they became.
613
00:29:02,948 --> 00:29:05,118
Of course, we couldn't
let them look better
614
00:29:05,284 --> 00:29:06,118
than us on stage, so...
615
00:29:06,285 --> 00:29:09,746
Okay, when the music
starts getting big,
616
00:29:09,872 --> 00:29:12,291
and stank, meaning funky,
617
00:29:12,458 --> 00:29:14,918
you gotta start dancing, okay?
618
00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:16,003
Do the best you can.
619
00:29:16,128 --> 00:29:17,839
♪ Oh! ♪
620
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:21,926
♪ Gitchie-gitchie
yeah-yeah-da-da ♪
621
00:29:22,092 --> 00:29:24,803
♪♪ Gitchie-gitchie
yeah-yeah here ♪
622
00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:26,097
♪♪♪
623
00:29:26,222 --> 00:29:28,140
♪ Mocha-choco-lata-yeah-yeah ♪
624
00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:32,936
The leaning into all of the
fantastical costumes and stuff,
625
00:29:33,103 --> 00:29:33,855
that's queer stuff.
626
00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,982
♪♪♪
627
00:29:36,148 --> 00:29:37,649
[Nicky] I loved LaBelle.
628
00:29:37,817 --> 00:29:43,615
I mean, that sound that they
had was so exciting.
629
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:46,868
It was everything that we stood
for in the early Seventies.
630
00:29:46,993 --> 00:29:51,664
♪♪♪
631
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:52,791
♪ Voulez-vous ♪
632
00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:53,666
♪ Coucher ♪
633
00:29:53,832 --> 00:29:54,041
♪ Avec moi? ♪
634
00:29:54,166 --> 00:30:00,298
♪ Babe ♪
635
00:30:05,677 --> 00:30:08,932
[cheering]
636
00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:13,394
[Nile] Up until the FBI
basically disbanded
637
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,978
the Panthers,
638
00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:18,233
the Black Panther Party
was probably
639
00:30:21,151 --> 00:30:24,821
the most loving situation
that I had been in
640
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:25,990
with a group of people.
641
00:30:26,115 --> 00:30:27,699
♪♪♪
642
00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:28,993
[Nile] My girlfriend, Paula,
643
00:30:29,159 --> 00:30:30,994
she and I were walking
up Eighth Street.
644
00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:32,996
When we got to Eighth Street
and Broadway,
645
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:34,165
a pop-up disco happened
646
00:30:34,331 --> 00:30:38,168
and we walked in there, and
they played three songs.
647
00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:39,920
Donna Summer,
"Love to Love You, Baby,"
648
00:30:40,045 --> 00:30:43,174
The Village People,
"San Francisco,"
649
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,092
and Eddie Kendricks, "Girl You
Need a Change of Mind."
650
00:30:45,217 --> 00:30:47,595
♪♪♪
651
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,179
[Nile] And we hear...
652
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:54,685
[singing] I love to
love you, baby.
653
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,186
♪ I... ♪
654
00:30:56,353 --> 00:30:58,522
[Nile] And it was just like,
"Wow, what is this shit?"
655
00:30:58,689 --> 00:31:03,570
I'm telling you, man, for a
brother like me... [sighs]
656
00:31:03,735 --> 00:31:07,197
that was like... like the first
time you have sex
657
00:31:07,322 --> 00:31:08,867
and you're flying.
658
00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:10,368
And then Eddie Kendricks.
659
00:31:10,534 --> 00:31:14,038
"I am for women's rights,
660
00:31:14,163 --> 00:31:16,291
but I want equal nights."
661
00:31:17,082 --> 00:31:19,042
You know, so it
was all political.
662
00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:21,628
♪ Love to love you, baby♪
663
00:31:21,753 --> 00:31:22,922
Mmm!
664
00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:24,799
♪ I love to love you, baby♪
665
00:31:24,924 --> 00:31:26,134
[Nile] The 12-inch record had
just become this new format,
666
00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:29,387
and they were really long,
667
00:31:29,553 --> 00:31:32,932
and I had never really been
in an environment
668
00:31:33,099 --> 00:31:36,101
where the music didn't stop.
669
00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:39,397
This night, nothing stopped.
670
00:31:39,563 --> 00:31:40,982
♪ Love to love you, baby♪
671
00:31:41,107 --> 00:31:43,484
♪ Oh ♪
672
00:31:43,609 --> 00:31:44,944
♪♪♪
673
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:48,406
[Nile] A totally
disparate crowd.
674
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,491
Gay people, straight people.
675
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:53,828
Asian people. Black people.
Puerto Rican people.
676
00:31:53,953 --> 00:31:55,163
Everybody was dancing
677
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,415
and everybody was
having a good time.
678
00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:00,460
It's magnetism that was
from this disco world
679
00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,169
that people just couldn't help,
680
00:32:02,294 --> 00:32:04,172
that they were just
being drawn in.
681
00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:08,676
To be a disenfranchised
Black child
682
00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:11,012
and to grow up, and you
become this teenager.
683
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:14,682
You walk into this joint
684
00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:17,100
and you know everybody
is down with you.
685
00:32:17,225 --> 00:32:19,311
It almost brought tears
to my eyes.
686
00:32:19,478 --> 00:32:20,855
I couldn't believe it.
687
00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:24,442
And I looked at my girlfriend,
and I said,
688
00:32:24,609 --> 00:32:27,611
"This shit is more revolutionary
than the party.
689
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,946
They're getting people
who don't normally
690
00:32:30,114 --> 00:32:34,118
associate together to be down."
691
00:32:34,284 --> 00:32:36,287
So I called Bernard up.
Bernard Edwards,
692
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,206
my former partner who passed
away some time ago.
693
00:32:39,331 --> 00:32:41,541
I said, "This is the music
I want to play."
694
00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:44,128
And two weeks later, I wrote
Everybody Dance.
695
00:32:44,294 --> 00:32:45,045
"Doo doo, doo doo.
Clap your hands."
696
00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:52,470
♪♪♪
697
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,224
Nile and Bernard, they were
going to start this new group
698
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,810
and they were looking for
a female vocalist.
699
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:01,812
Mind you, now, by the
time I hit New York,
700
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:06,317
I had worked with a number
of bands on the road
701
00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:08,319
and worked with The Spinners.
702
00:33:08,485 --> 00:33:11,071
So I'm a little critical,
you know.
703
00:33:11,196 --> 00:33:13,241
When I heard Nile, Bernard
and Tony play,
704
00:33:13,366 --> 00:33:15,493
I was blown away.
705
00:33:15,618 --> 00:33:18,329
[Nile] Bernard loved
my sense of rhythm
706
00:33:18,495 --> 00:33:19,539
and what I could do.
707
00:33:19,705 --> 00:33:21,165
And he just said, "Man, if you
learned how to chuck."
708
00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:23,251
"What do you mean, chuck?"
709
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:25,919
He says, "Well, let me
just show you."
710
00:33:26,044 --> 00:33:27,254
And he picked up the guitar,
711
00:33:27,379 --> 00:33:29,756
and he just was just doing
something like...
712
00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:32,051
[guitar strumming]
713
00:33:32,217 --> 00:33:34,345
And I was like going...
714
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:36,763
[guitar strumming]
715
00:33:36,888 --> 00:33:38,933
He said, "No, no, no,
don't do that."
716
00:33:39,058 --> 00:33:41,185
He said, "You got to keep the
16th notes going all the time."
717
00:33:41,351 --> 00:33:45,939
[guitar strumming]
718
00:33:46,064 --> 00:33:49,193
Imagine now the drums just go,
"Boom, boom, boom, boom."
719
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:50,194
And you...
720
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,197
[guitar strumming]
721
00:33:53,364 --> 00:33:57,784
♪♪♪
722
00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:07,252
The engineer who recorded us
723
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:11,715
was also a DJ at one of the
coolest clubs in New York,
724
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,302
and it was a downtown club
where all of the new
725
00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:16,219
black urban professionals -
726
00:34:16,386 --> 00:34:19,348
or we call them 'Buppies' -
would go.
727
00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:21,224
About two or three
weeks go by
728
00:34:21,391 --> 00:34:24,061
and I get a phone call,
and he says,
729
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,148
"Man, I need you to come
down to the Night Owl."
730
00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:31,110
I was like going, "Dude, I can't
get into the Night Owl.
731
00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,570
They're not going to let me in.
732
00:34:33,695 --> 00:34:36,239
You know, I only have, like,
jeans and a plaid jacket
733
00:34:36,406 --> 00:34:38,409
or something."
734
00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:41,244
He said, "Trust me, bro.
Just tell them
735
00:34:41,411 --> 00:34:42,288
that you wrote
Everybody Dance."
736
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,248
I said, "That's... okay. Cool."
737
00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:49,753
So I go to Night Owl and
the door man goes,
738
00:34:49,878 --> 00:34:53,090
"Hey, my man, you can't come
in here dressed like that."
739
00:34:53,215 --> 00:34:57,469
And I said, "Oh, I know. But
Robert told me to tell you
740
00:34:57,636 --> 00:34:59,262
that I wrote Everybody Dance."
741
00:34:59,429 --> 00:35:02,183
"Everybody Dance? My man,
come here. Come on inside."
742
00:35:02,308 --> 00:35:03,810
He takes me inside.
743
00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,103
The woman who's now going
to take the money says,
744
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:08,147
"Whoa, whoa, you can't come in
here dressed like that."
745
00:35:08,313 --> 00:35:09,982
"He wrote Everybody Dance."
746
00:35:10,148 --> 00:35:13,777
"Everybody Dance? Yo, come
on in here, my brother."
747
00:35:13,944 --> 00:35:17,489
So now I'm thinking that there's
some kind of joke going on.
748
00:35:17,656 --> 00:35:22,119
I get into the club. I don't
know how the DJ spotted me.
749
00:35:22,244 --> 00:35:25,288
He saw me, and right away, he
put on Everybody Dance.
750
00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:27,791
And just from the drum fill...
751
00:35:27,916 --> 00:35:29,460
[makes bass sound]
752
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:32,045
You heard this
bloodcurdling scream.
753
00:35:32,170 --> 00:35:34,172
Everybody - "Oh!!" -
754
00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:36,049
packed the dance floor.
755
00:35:36,174 --> 00:35:38,052
And I went, "What?"
756
00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,637
I couldn't believe my eyes.
757
00:35:40,762 --> 00:35:43,181
I walked over to him.
He was giggling like crazy.
758
00:35:43,348 --> 00:35:45,643
♪ Everybody Dance ♪ by Chic
759
00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:48,311
♪ Do-do-do, clap your hands,
clap your hands ♪
760
00:35:48,478 --> 00:35:50,648
♪♪♪
761
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:54,652
Then the clubs, it's,
you know, it's instant.
762
00:35:54,777 --> 00:35:56,654
Folks wouldn't stop dancing.
763
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:59,322
Everybody Dance.
I mean, that was...
764
00:35:59,447 --> 00:36:01,324
When you hear it,
you have to dance.
765
00:36:01,491 --> 00:36:03,869
[Nile] He played it.
He then played it again.
766
00:36:04,036 --> 00:36:05,413
He then played it again.
767
00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:09,375
He played it again.
He played it for at least -
768
00:36:09,541 --> 00:36:12,502
and I'm not saying this for
dramatic purposes -
769
00:36:12,627 --> 00:36:14,589
played it at least an hour.
770
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:19,217
That was my first time hearing
my first pop composition
771
00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:22,096
out in the real world.
772
00:36:22,221 --> 00:36:25,223
I was blown away and
I don't think I've ever
773
00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:27,851
had that feeling again.
774
00:36:28,018 --> 00:36:29,353
I've probably been
chasing it all my life.
775
00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:31,272
♪♪♪
776
00:36:31,397 --> 00:36:33,607
♪ Everybody dance ♪
777
00:36:33,732 --> 00:36:35,275
♪ Do-do-do, clap your hands,
clap your hands ♪
778
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,364
That unison singing
was like [gasps]
779
00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:43,201
"What is happening?!"
780
00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:44,451
They weren't in harmony.
781
00:36:44,576 --> 00:36:47,288
The voice sounded like
one voice at times.
782
00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:50,040
It was that connected.
783
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,877
Glamor went hand in hand
with disco music.
784
00:36:53,043 --> 00:36:57,547
Nile wanted it to be
a stylish group.
785
00:36:57,672 --> 00:37:00,551
[Nile] This beautiful,
fashion-oriented Black crowd.
786
00:37:00,717 --> 00:37:02,469
"Wow, we want to be their band!"
787
00:37:02,594 --> 00:37:05,889
♪♪♪
788
00:37:06,056 --> 00:37:08,476
The labels understood how to
make better dance records.
789
00:37:08,601 --> 00:37:13,147
♪♪♪
790
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:16,734
Being seven years old
in Wellsville, Ohio,
791
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:18,944
and hearing Knock on Wood
for the first time,
792
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:23,657
I lost my mind. I was like,
"What on Earth is this?"
793
00:37:23,782 --> 00:37:25,243
♪ Knock on Wood ♪
by Amii Stewart
794
00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:27,078
♪ Lightning ♪
795
00:37:27,244 --> 00:37:29,288
♪ The way you love me
is frightening ♪
796
00:37:29,455 --> 00:37:30,498
♪ I think I better knock ♪
797
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:31,415
♪ Knoc♪
798
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:33,833
I feel seen in it.
799
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,335
♪ On wood ♪
800
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:36,420
♪ Baby♪
801
00:37:36,545 --> 00:37:38,255
[Norma Jean] Disco
was a blessing.
802
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:42,509
It wasn't an A&R guy that was
deciding what the music was.
803
00:37:42,634 --> 00:37:45,596
It was people because
it started in the clubs.
804
00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:47,639
And I think that's
a reason why
805
00:37:47,806 --> 00:37:50,183
so many people broke through.
806
00:37:50,308 --> 00:37:55,773
The door was wide open for
a lot of talented people
807
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:58,525
to break through, a lot of them
African-Americans,
808
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:01,487
a lot of them women.
809
00:38:01,654 --> 00:38:03,531
It opened up a door
that I don't think
810
00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:06,701
would have normally been open,
811
00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:10,371
and the record labels
couldn't resist the fact
812
00:38:10,496 --> 00:38:12,706
that there was something
going on here.
813
00:38:12,831 --> 00:38:14,958
[Nona] A lot of the music
that was made
814
00:38:15,125 --> 00:38:17,043
during that period
had something to say.
815
00:38:17,168 --> 00:38:20,464
People were not just, not just
doing the sign, Y M C A,
816
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:25,636
but people saw it as like a
music you just jump around to
817
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:28,139
rather than looking at the
deeper meaning.
818
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,558
And there were other songs,
other examples.
819
00:38:30,683 --> 00:38:31,391
♪ I Will Survive ♪
by Gloria Gaynor
820
00:38:31,516 --> 00:38:33,978
♪ I was petrified ♪
821
00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,147
♪ Kept thinking
I could never live ♪
822
00:38:36,313 --> 00:38:38,065
♪ Without you by my side ♪
823
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:39,525
♪ But then I spent
so many nights ♪
824
00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:41,569
♪ Thinking how you
did me wrong ♪
825
00:38:41,694 --> 00:38:43,404
♪ And I grew strong ♪
826
00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,489
♪ And I learned how
to get along ♪
827
00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:47,491
♪ And so you're back ♪
828
00:38:47,657 --> 00:38:49,909
♪ From outer space ♪
829
00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,578
[Nona] Probably the,
I would say the greatest
830
00:38:51,703 --> 00:38:54,665
disco era song ever.
831
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:58,085
That is like, "You're not going
to mess with me anymore.
832
00:38:58,210 --> 00:39:00,337
Whatever you've done,
I'm done with that.
833
00:39:00,503 --> 00:39:03,507
I will not be going there
because I will survive.
834
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:05,592
No matter what you do to me,
I'm going to survive."
835
00:39:05,717 --> 00:39:08,679
♪ Just turn around now ♪
836
00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:11,181
♪ 'Cause you're not
welcome anymore ♪
837
00:39:11,348 --> 00:39:12,433
[record scratching]
838
00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:14,685
♪♪♪
839
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:16,186
[Fab 5 Freddy] So in the
beginning,
840
00:39:16,311 --> 00:39:18,105
disco was the thing
that was happening.
841
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:20,023
Hip-hop really didn't
become this thing,
842
00:39:20,148 --> 00:39:22,442
literally "Hip-Hop," until
the early Eighties.
843
00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:24,694
What went on in the Seventies
was a combination
844
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:26,364
of different things.
845
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:30,034
When you have records like
The Mexican by Babe Ruth
846
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:33,286
or Love Is The Message
by MFSB
847
00:39:33,411 --> 00:39:35,790
or Bra by Cymande,
848
00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:38,541
these records were getting
played in the hip-hop scene
849
00:39:38,666 --> 00:39:43,089
as well as at The Loft,
or Nicky Siano's Gallery.
850
00:39:43,255 --> 00:39:44,882
♪♪♪
851
00:39:45,007 --> 00:39:46,424
[Grandmaster Flash]
And hip-hop.
852
00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:48,469
I had already been doing it
up in the Bronx.
853
00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:50,721
Uptown, there'd be
very few whites,
854
00:39:50,887 --> 00:39:53,723
mostly Blacks and Latinos
where we came from.
855
00:39:53,891 --> 00:39:57,645
Versus downtown,
blacks and whites
856
00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:01,273
in the room, jamming.
857
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,237
♪♪♪
858
00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:11,282
♪♪♪
859
00:40:11,449 --> 00:40:16,330
♪♪♪
860
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:19,625
I came up with a system
where I would take
861
00:40:19,791 --> 00:40:22,920
the drum breakdown
of particular songs
862
00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:27,590
in the areas of pop, rock,
jazz, blues, funk.
863
00:40:27,757 --> 00:40:30,927
♪♪♪
864
00:40:31,052 --> 00:40:32,679
♪ We've got our own thing ♪
865
00:40:32,804 --> 00:40:35,306
♪ We've got it ♪
866
00:40:35,473 --> 00:40:37,685
♪ We've got our own thing ♪
867
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:39,186
♪ We've got it ♪
868
00:40:39,311 --> 00:40:40,520
[Grandmaster Flash]
A lot of those songs
869
00:40:40,645 --> 00:40:42,523
were quote unquote
"disco songs."
870
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:47,610
♪♪♪
871
00:40:47,777 --> 00:40:51,531
♪♪♪
872
00:40:51,656 --> 00:40:54,659
Disco records, they had
heat to them,
873
00:40:54,826 --> 00:40:57,538
but I had to do, like,
serious research.
874
00:40:57,663 --> 00:40:59,665
♪ Got to be Real♪
by Cheryl Lynn
875
00:40:59,831 --> 00:41:04,377
♪ What you find, ah ♪
876
00:41:04,502 --> 00:41:08,799
♪ What you feel now ♪
877
00:41:08,924 --> 00:41:12,469
♪ What you know, ah ♪
878
00:41:12,594 --> 00:41:14,137
♪ To be real ♪
879
00:41:14,304 --> 00:41:17,016
The disco 12-inch, I would
put it up with a light,
880
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:19,643
and if I put it up with a light
and the shiniest part
881
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:22,688
was where the least band
members were playing
882
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,230
with the drummer.
883
00:41:24,355 --> 00:41:25,565
And I would put it down there,
and that's where
884
00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:28,027
the break would live.
885
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:29,527
I would take these particular
areas where the drummer
886
00:41:29,694 --> 00:41:32,697
had a minute to solo
and that there,
887
00:41:32,864 --> 00:41:38,328
with duplicate copies of it, I
would manually cut and paste it,
888
00:41:38,453 --> 00:41:39,871
and extend that area,
889
00:41:40,038 --> 00:41:44,418
so that I can come up with a
music bed for the breakers,
890
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,670
and then later the rappers.
891
00:41:46,837 --> 00:41:48,087
♪ Frisco Disco ♪
by Eastside Connection
892
00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,590
♪♪♪
893
00:41:50,715 --> 00:41:53,009
♪ Ladies and gentlemen ♪
894
00:41:53,134 --> 00:41:56,179
♪ Welcome aboard
Disco Airlines Flight 78 ♪
895
00:41:56,304 --> 00:42:00,016
♪♪♪
896
00:42:00,183 --> 00:42:01,601
♪ With disco you can't
go wrong ♪
897
00:42:01,726 --> 00:42:06,690
♪♪♪
898
00:42:06,857 --> 00:42:10,860
♪♪♪
899
00:42:11,194 --> 00:42:13,781
[DJ Spinna] Hip-hop and
the industry owes a lot
900
00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:18,159
to what that scene, that
movement created.
901
00:42:18,744 --> 00:42:21,913
As far as DJ culture
is concerned,
902
00:42:22,081 --> 00:42:23,373
this thing was brand new.
903
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:24,708
The whole phenomenon
of taking a record
904
00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:28,087
and segueing it into
another record.
905
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:30,589
These guys had the ability to
keep the music going
906
00:42:30,755 --> 00:42:32,465
was a revelation unto itself.
907
00:42:32,590 --> 00:42:35,219
And then other innovations came
and built on top of that.
908
00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:36,469
[clapper snaps]
909
00:42:36,594 --> 00:42:38,806
All right. I just want to say
that there are some DJs
910
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:41,891
who are classics and
some who are not.
911
00:42:42,058 --> 00:42:43,726
[Freddie] The DJs,
they gave me a chance.
912
00:42:43,893 --> 00:42:48,773
You know, they sort of, they let
me in their inner circle.
913
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:51,235
I was the first person to ever
substitute for David,
914
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,279
nobody else ever did.
And I said to myself,
915
00:42:54,445 --> 00:42:56,906
"You know, there's two
turntables here,
916
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:58,741
and there are two, there's a
knob on each turntable.
917
00:42:58,866 --> 00:43:01,328
What the hell do I
need a mixer for?
918
00:43:01,453 --> 00:43:03,956
Just, you know, fade one in
and fade the other one out,
919
00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:05,415
and do it at the same time."
920
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:07,835
And everybody was like,
"Crazy. Wow, wow, wow.
921
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,295
There's a mix at The Loft!"
922
00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:13,840
♪♪♪
923
00:43:13,965 --> 00:43:16,092
[Nicky] The blend,
this is how you do it.
924
00:43:16,259 --> 00:43:19,012
You take the needle and you
listen in your headphones.
925
00:43:19,137 --> 00:43:22,141
You know these two records
have a very similar beat,
926
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:26,520
and you have a turntable that
only goes 2% one way
927
00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:27,770
and 2% the other way.
928
00:43:27,895 --> 00:43:31,025
So it's got to be
close to the beat.
929
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:32,775
And then you keep putting
the needle on the record
930
00:43:32,942 --> 00:43:34,777
and you hear it kind of match,
931
00:43:34,902 --> 00:43:37,114
and then you bring volume up,
932
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,991
and you turn the other one down.
933
00:43:39,157 --> 00:43:39,699
And then I said to
a friend, I said,
934
00:43:39,824 --> 00:43:43,996
"How do I hold the record?"
935
00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:48,625
He said, "Oh, put the 45
underneath the LP,
936
00:43:48,791 --> 00:43:51,377
it'll slip on the LP."
937
00:43:51,502 --> 00:43:52,462
And sure enough it did.
938
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,632
♪♪♪
939
00:43:55,799 --> 00:44:00,471
[Nicky] And I slowly was able
to start beat matching.
940
00:44:00,596 --> 00:44:06,810
Once I had a dream of
having three turntables,
941
00:44:06,976 --> 00:44:10,147
and in the middle of a change
942
00:44:10,313 --> 00:44:12,315
there would be a sound effect.
943
00:44:12,482 --> 00:44:15,819
The next week
I got a third turntable.
944
00:44:15,944 --> 00:44:17,154
Nicky would play
Love Is The Message.
945
00:44:17,279 --> 00:44:20,531
He had two, three turntables,
and he would loop it, loop it.
946
00:44:20,699 --> 00:44:22,409
When you would get to
the break of the record,
947
00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:24,828
Nicky would just play it, and
everybody started chanting,
948
00:44:24,994 --> 00:44:25,703
"Turn this motherfucker out,
949
00:44:25,871 --> 00:44:27,998
turn this motherfucker out!"
950
00:44:28,123 --> 00:44:30,083
And that was ecstasy for me.
951
00:44:30,208 --> 00:44:32,502
I would match up lyrics
in songs to create...
952
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,755
And sounds. And the lights
would match the music.
953
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,049
You don't get that anymore.
954
00:44:37,215 --> 00:44:39,677
Those tweeters, boy.
You did all the highs.
955
00:44:39,842 --> 00:44:41,219
It was wonderful.
956
00:44:41,386 --> 00:44:42,762
The bass made you feel like you
were getting done royally.
957
00:44:42,887 --> 00:44:45,723
[laughing]
958
00:44:45,891 --> 00:44:46,766
That was a very sexual thing.
959
00:44:46,891 --> 00:44:50,853
♪♪♪
960
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:54,857
After a week of being,
I guess, a busboy,
961
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:59,947
a waitress, a hairdresser,
a dancer,
962
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:03,074
a mother, a husband, you know,
any of those things.
963
00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:04,868
And then get it off,
get rid of it, you know,
964
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:07,203
and dance it away,
965
00:45:07,328 --> 00:45:10,373
get excited about
watching other people.
966
00:45:10,498 --> 00:45:11,083
♪♪♪
967
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:14,252
Just... I was a club bunny.
968
00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:15,795
♪♪♪
969
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,465
[Nona] I went to Mudd Club,
I went to Danceteria,
970
00:45:19,590 --> 00:45:20,174
I went to Studio 54,
971
00:45:20,299 --> 00:45:22,969
I went to Paradise Garage.
972
00:45:23,094 --> 00:45:24,929
[Grandmaster Flash] The DJ.
I probably went to go see
973
00:45:25,096 --> 00:45:27,056
the most was Larry Levan.
974
00:45:27,181 --> 00:45:29,268
His mixing ability was
quite incredible.
975
00:45:29,435 --> 00:45:30,811
[Kevin Saunderson]
I was in my own world,
976
00:45:30,936 --> 00:45:34,313
I was dancing for hours
and hours,
977
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,775
and I got educated to like...
Supernature.
978
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:38,902
I never heard Supernature
on radio,
979
00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:41,154
but I heard it at the
Paradise Garage.
980
00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:43,906
By Cerrone, just this
great track to me
981
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:45,241
that took you in different
dimensions.
982
00:45:45,366 --> 00:45:48,953
And it seemed like that lasted
like two hours, that record.
983
00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:50,621
[Nona] There was this freedom.
984
00:45:50,788 --> 00:45:54,793
You were just in a sea of people
moving to the same beat,
985
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,922
joyously and very,
almost tribal.
986
00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:02,092
♪♪♪
987
00:46:02,217 --> 00:46:05,136
He was charming and reckless,
988
00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:07,514
and he could get away with
anything in the Garage.
989
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:08,931
It was his house.
990
00:46:09,056 --> 00:46:13,061
♪♪♪
991
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:20,944
What the record company
felt was that we had
992
00:46:21,069 --> 00:46:26,116
this magical fairy dust that we
could sprinkle over anybody.
993
00:46:26,282 --> 00:46:28,034
They offered us Bette Midler.
994
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:29,369
They offered us
the Rolling Stones.
995
00:46:29,494 --> 00:46:31,121
They offered us all
these big acts.
996
00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:35,125
We were like, "Sh... we're going
to tell Keith Richards
997
00:46:35,291 --> 00:46:38,962
what to play? I'm going to tell
Mick Jagger what to sing?"
998
00:46:39,128 --> 00:46:41,632
So we basically said, "Look,
instead of giving us
999
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:43,842
the most popular group,
why don't you give us
1000
00:46:44,009 --> 00:46:46,344
the least popular group?"
1001
00:46:46,511 --> 00:46:47,887
They literally said, "Give us
some obscure group
1002
00:46:48,012 --> 00:46:49,056
that no one knows."
1003
00:46:49,181 --> 00:46:51,474
We didn't have any hit records.
1004
00:46:51,641 --> 00:46:53,643
I would have records out that
were never played
1005
00:46:53,768 --> 00:46:55,186
on the radio.
1006
00:46:55,353 --> 00:46:56,145
They were played in other
countries, but never at home.
1007
00:46:56,313 --> 00:46:59,315
Jerry Greenberg started
describing us,
1008
00:46:59,482 --> 00:47:01,150
"You got to meet these girls,
they're family.
1009
00:47:01,275 --> 00:47:02,027
They flock together
like birds of a feather
1010
00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:04,320
whenever they come
up to the label."
1011
00:47:04,445 --> 00:47:06,322
He said that they were
like family to us.
1012
00:47:06,489 --> 00:47:08,659
That's all we needed to hear.
1013
00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:11,161
We had just been in
Germany recording
1014
00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:13,538
with Silver Convention,
1015
00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:16,375
"Fly, robin, fly!
Up, up to the sky!"
1016
00:47:16,541 --> 00:47:17,166
And now the "Yowsah,
Yowsah, Yowsah"
1017
00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:19,335
people want to work with you.
1018
00:47:19,502 --> 00:47:21,964
And I remember saying,
"I don't know..."
1019
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:25,007
♪ We Are Family ♪
by Sister Sledge
1020
00:47:25,132 --> 00:47:29,304
♪♪♪
1021
00:47:39,648 --> 00:47:43,235
♪ We are family ♪
1022
00:47:43,402 --> 00:47:45,862
♪ I got all my sisters with me ♪
1023
00:47:46,029 --> 00:47:47,364
♪♪♪
1024
00:47:47,489 --> 00:47:50,741
[Kathy Sledge] When we
worked with Nile Rodgers
1025
00:47:50,909 --> 00:47:52,201
and Bernard Edwards,
1026
00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:54,288
it was different from
any other session.
1027
00:47:54,413 --> 00:47:56,038
They knew what they wanted.
1028
00:47:56,206 --> 00:47:59,083
♪ We are family ♪
1029
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,295
And we were just finishing
up the last lyrics
1030
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:03,087
to We Are Family
as she walks in,
1031
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:06,132
she hears it, "What is this?"
1032
00:48:06,257 --> 00:48:08,092
Uh, "This is your album."
1033
00:48:08,259 --> 00:48:09,802
I wasn't allowed to hear
any of the songs
1034
00:48:09,927 --> 00:48:10,971
until it was time to record it.
1035
00:48:11,096 --> 00:48:12,556
♪♪♪
1036
00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:16,976
♪ Everyone can see
we're together ♪
1037
00:48:17,101 --> 00:48:19,061
♪ As we walk on by ♪
1038
00:48:19,186 --> 00:48:21,648
♪ And ♪
1039
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:23,232
I can honestly say the first
time I heard Greatest Dancer,
1040
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,110
and We Are Family,
or any of those songs
1041
00:48:25,277 --> 00:48:26,360
was the first time the
public heard them.
1042
00:48:26,485 --> 00:48:29,822
Because I didn't know how they
were going to come out.
1043
00:48:29,947 --> 00:48:31,157
Kathy pulled me aside.
1044
00:48:31,282 --> 00:48:35,411
Because I was like
this goofy... 15 then,
1045
00:48:35,578 --> 00:48:38,165
16 by the time the record
came out, with braces.
1046
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:40,500
And I would always ask him.
1047
00:48:40,625 --> 00:48:43,837
"Nile, is this ever going
to be on the radio?"
1048
00:48:43,962 --> 00:48:45,755
And I looked her right
in the face, and I said,
1049
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,509
"Yes, Kathy, I promise you this
is going to be on the radio."
1050
00:48:49,634 --> 00:48:51,761
I didn't know if it was going
to be on the radio,
1051
00:48:51,886 --> 00:48:52,304
but I felt it in my heart.
1052
00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:54,848
♪ We are family ♪
1053
00:48:56,266 --> 00:48:59,018
♪ Get up everybody and sing ♪
1054
00:48:59,143 --> 00:49:00,686
♪ Sing it to me ♪
1055
00:49:00,811 --> 00:49:01,480
[Kathy] He would always say,
"Just trust us,
1056
00:49:01,647 --> 00:49:02,980
like, we know what we're doing."
1057
00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:04,107
♪♪♪
1058
00:49:04,273 --> 00:49:07,860
I remember waking up to --
you know,
1059
00:49:07,985 --> 00:49:08,987
because the alarm would go off
1060
00:49:09,154 --> 00:49:11,614
and the song would come on -
1061
00:49:11,739 --> 00:49:14,284
our song's being played on the
radio for the first time.
1062
00:49:14,409 --> 00:49:16,119
♪ ... in you and the
things you do ♪
1063
00:49:16,244 --> 00:49:17,621
♪ You won't go wrong ♪
1064
00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:20,873
♪ Oh no, this is our
family jewel ♪
1065
00:49:20,998 --> 00:49:23,210
I mean, Sister Sledge, that
album was the best album
1066
00:49:23,335 --> 00:49:25,795
we've ever written,
pound for pound.
1067
00:49:25,962 --> 00:49:28,047
Those are the best
collection of songs.
1068
00:49:28,172 --> 00:49:31,634
And man, she went out there
and tore those songs up.
1069
00:49:31,802 --> 00:49:33,971
Well, this is our first
really big break,
1070
00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,681
so we're taking advantage
of it, even if it is tiring.
1071
00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:39,810
They may be the only
group in the top ten
1072
00:49:39,976 --> 00:49:41,061
where two of the group still
have the bands on their teeth.
1073
00:49:41,186 --> 00:49:43,563
Isn't that interesting?
1074
00:49:43,688 --> 00:49:44,730
Yeah.
1075
00:49:44,855 --> 00:49:45,815
That's nice.
1076
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:47,025
[laughs]
1077
00:49:47,192 --> 00:49:48,819
Can you imagine the
Bee Gees all coming out
1078
00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:50,237
with their hits and all having
bands on their teeth.
1079
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:51,362
[audience laughs]
1080
00:49:51,529 --> 00:49:52,656
"Stayin Alive, Stayin Alive."
1081
00:49:52,822 --> 00:49:55,241
I think disco is something that
made us look really great,
1082
00:49:55,366 --> 00:49:58,328
that it really was one
of the first few times
1083
00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:03,040
that queer people, black folks,
and anyone in between
1084
00:50:03,208 --> 00:50:05,168
were able to really shine.
1085
00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:09,339
♪♪♪
1086
00:50:09,505 --> 00:50:13,509
It was amazing to me as
someone who grew up
1087
00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:16,179
in the Fifties and Sixties,
1088
00:50:16,304 --> 00:50:21,685
to see what seemed like
genuine acceptance
1089
00:50:21,851 --> 00:50:25,855
of a gay culture at
the club level --
1090
00:50:26,023 --> 00:50:28,692
and not just curiosity,
but acceptance
1091
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:32,529
and interest in gay life
through club life,
1092
00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:34,697
and through people
like Sylvester.
1093
00:50:34,822 --> 00:50:36,282
♪ You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)
♪ by Sylvester
1094
00:50:36,407 --> 00:50:37,451
♪ ... I've been dancing ♪
1095
00:50:37,576 --> 00:50:39,286
♪ On the floor, darlin' ♪
1096
00:50:39,411 --> 00:50:42,205
Sylvester might not have been
able to exist as an artist
1097
00:50:42,371 --> 00:50:43,415
in the Fifties.
1098
00:50:43,581 --> 00:50:44,623
♪ Feel your body close... ♪
1099
00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:49,295
[Mark] He broke a whole
lot of really new ground.
1100
00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:50,297
♪ Make me feel ♪
1101
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:53,549
[Martha Walsh] It was
a time when people
1102
00:50:53,674 --> 00:50:57,094
could be who they were,
and be free.
1103
00:50:57,261 --> 00:51:00,766
[Billy] Sylvester is
a forefather,
1104
00:51:00,931 --> 00:51:04,061
not only disco,
1105
00:51:04,226 --> 00:51:08,815
but of the queer expansion,
1106
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:10,317
the non-binary of it all,
1107
00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:13,569
when there was
no language for it.
1108
00:51:13,694 --> 00:51:15,237
♪♪♪
1109
00:51:15,362 --> 00:51:16,656
[Martha] I was singing
with Sylvester.
1110
00:51:16,781 --> 00:51:18,324
Originally we were doing
a lot of Top 40,
1111
00:51:18,449 --> 00:51:22,411
and that evolved
into a disco sound.
1112
00:51:22,536 --> 00:51:25,081
♪ And I know you love me ♪
1113
00:51:25,206 --> 00:51:29,085
♪ Like you should ♪
1114
00:51:29,252 --> 00:51:30,420
♪♪♪
1115
00:51:30,587 --> 00:51:32,755
[ Martha] During that time,
there were those
1116
00:51:32,922 --> 00:51:37,259
that didn't want him
to be who he was.
1117
00:51:37,427 --> 00:51:40,304
Being a gay artist,
1118
00:51:40,471 --> 00:51:43,766
let alone a Black gay artist,
1119
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:49,105
was something that
was very hidden.
1120
00:51:49,272 --> 00:51:50,357
They were out there,
1121
00:51:50,482 --> 00:51:54,277
but they were very closeted.
1122
00:51:54,444 --> 00:52:00,491
And they wanted to market
him as a straight artist,
1123
00:52:00,659 --> 00:52:02,369
you know, R&B, whatever.
1124
00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:04,538
And he wasn't having it.
1125
00:52:04,663 --> 00:52:06,331
And Sylvester was
the one that said,
1126
00:52:06,498 --> 00:52:09,500
"I'm not doing it.
I am who I am.
1127
00:52:09,668 --> 00:52:13,130
Accept me or, you know... bye!"
1128
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,799
♪ I feel real ♪
1129
00:52:15,965 --> 00:52:16,799
♪ I feel real ♪
1130
00:52:16,967 --> 00:52:18,176
[Jellybean] You Make
Me Feel Mighty Real.
1131
00:52:18,342 --> 00:52:19,302
Sylvester had brought it to me
1132
00:52:19,427 --> 00:52:20,719
when it was a work in progress,
1133
00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:24,306
and I played it, and the
album went gold.
1134
00:52:24,473 --> 00:52:26,226
I still didn't really understand
what that meant.
1135
00:52:26,351 --> 00:52:27,561
I just knew, like...
I put it on,
1136
00:52:27,686 --> 00:52:29,395
people went crazy all the time.
1137
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,607
But the fact that he gave me
a gold record for it, oh...
1138
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:33,692
Was great.
1139
00:52:33,859 --> 00:52:36,319
My style and from,
where I come from
1140
00:52:36,444 --> 00:52:39,489
is so totally different
from another place.
1141
00:52:39,614 --> 00:52:43,743
It's like night and day.
1142
00:52:43,869 --> 00:52:46,580
No, I don't compare
myself to anyone.
1143
00:52:46,705 --> 00:52:49,081
That's why it's hard for me
to get a job sometimes.
1144
00:52:49,373 --> 00:52:52,085
I stand on that man's shoulders.
1145
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:54,003
There would be no Billy...
1146
00:52:54,378 --> 00:52:56,715
If there wasn't a Sylvester.
1147
00:52:56,882 --> 00:52:58,215
♪♪♪
1148
00:52:58,382 --> 00:53:00,886
[Sylvester] I've been singing,
like, since I was a child.
1149
00:53:01,052 --> 00:53:04,221
Really. Gospel singing,
always singing in church
1150
00:53:04,389 --> 00:53:06,016
and stuff that.
1151
00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:09,561
But I still sing Gospel music
everywhere I go.
1152
00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:15,192
♪ You make me feel ♪
1153
00:53:15,357 --> 00:53:17,194
[Sylvester] No matter
what I do, or where I go,
1154
00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:19,279
or what I'm into, it just
does not leave me.
1155
00:53:19,404 --> 00:53:21,114
It's just there.
1156
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,576
That feeling, that sound
is just embedded in me,
1157
00:53:24,743 --> 00:53:25,576
and it just won't ever come out.
1158
00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:26,453
And I don't ever want
it to come out.
1159
00:53:26,578 --> 00:53:31,248
♪ You make me feel ♪
1160
00:53:31,415 --> 00:53:34,877
♪ Hey ♪
1161
00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:41,384
♪ Mighty real ♪
1162
00:53:41,509 --> 00:53:44,887
♪ Hey ♪
1163
00:53:45,012 --> 00:53:49,643
The shrieking that leaves you,
like, euphoric.
1164
00:53:49,768 --> 00:53:50,726
[laughs]
1165
00:53:50,851 --> 00:53:53,230
You know it's, it's like...
1166
00:53:54,105 --> 00:53:54,522
that's Gospel.
1167
00:53:54,648 --> 00:53:59,985
♪ Mighty real ♪
1168
00:54:00,110 --> 00:54:04,241
[Billy] Everybody felt seen
in it, in the music.
1169
00:54:04,366 --> 00:54:09,119
♪ You make me feel ♪
1170
00:54:09,286 --> 00:54:11,121
♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
1171
00:54:11,288 --> 00:54:12,290
[Akia] It's the fellowship.
1172
00:54:12,456 --> 00:54:15,293
A lot of people,
especially in disco,
1173
00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:17,920
they were ostracized
in those communities.
1174
00:54:18,087 --> 00:54:19,339
It doesn't mean that they still
don't have a love
1175
00:54:19,464 --> 00:54:21,340
for the Black church.
1176
00:54:21,465 --> 00:54:25,177
♪ You make me feel ♪
1177
00:54:25,302 --> 00:54:28,973
♪♪♪
1178
00:54:29,139 --> 00:54:35,772
♪ Mighty real ♪
1179
00:54:35,897 --> 00:54:36,982
♪ Yeah ♪
1180
00:54:37,148 --> 00:54:38,023
♪♪♪
1181
00:54:38,148 --> 00:54:40,110
♪ Yeah♪
1182
00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:42,487
♪Ah ♪
1183
00:54:42,654 --> 00:54:43,487
♪Yeah ♪
1184
00:54:43,654 --> 00:54:47,993
♪ Yeah ♪
1185
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:53,373
♪Ah ♪
1186
00:54:54,331 --> 00:54:55,458
♪ Yeah ♪
1187
00:54:55,583 --> 00:54:57,127
♪ Yeah ♪
1188
00:54:57,252 --> 00:55:01,464
♪ Mmm ♪
1189
00:55:01,630 --> 00:55:06,302
♪ Mmm ♪
1190
00:55:06,469 --> 00:55:09,179
♪ Oo♪
1191
00:55:09,346 --> 00:55:13,310
♪♪♪
1192
00:55:19,357 --> 00:55:23,819
[audience cheering]
1193
00:55:23,944 --> 00:55:28,199
Look, nothing is, is pure and
utopian and fantastic,
1194
00:55:28,366 --> 00:55:32,536
but it was certainly as close
as I've ever seen.
1195
00:55:32,703 --> 00:55:34,913
Being a Black Panther and going,
1196
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,333
"Man, all we wanted to
do was touch people.
1197
00:55:37,458 --> 00:55:40,878
All we wanted to do was
bring in the masses
1198
00:55:41,045 --> 00:55:44,090
and say, Man, we're one.
We're one America,
1199
00:55:44,215 --> 00:55:47,217
one army, even though we're
disparate people."
1200
00:55:47,384 --> 00:55:50,764
That's what we used to say,
"Power to the people."
1201
00:55:50,889 --> 00:55:53,223
And we met all the people.
1202
00:55:53,391 --> 00:55:54,601
And that's what disco gave us.
1203
00:55:54,726 --> 00:55:56,518
They gave us power
to all the people.
1204
00:55:56,686 --> 00:55:58,855
If you could dance.
1205
00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:00,440
[laughs]
1206
00:56:02,192 --> 00:56:08,031
♪♪♪
1207
00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:17,748
So in the beginning, disco
was a cool thing,
1208
00:56:17,915 --> 00:56:21,543
before it became
over-commercialized,
1209
00:56:21,668 --> 00:56:24,214
watered down,
1210
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:25,799
cornball. You feel me?
1211
00:56:25,924 --> 00:56:26,632
Because it was something
that we felt
1212
00:56:26,757 --> 00:56:29,386
like we made happen.
1213
00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:30,552
[Newscaster] The very popular
and very lucrative
1214
00:56:30,677 --> 00:56:33,389
new business called Disco.
1215
00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:34,056
It's bigger than Elvis,
1216
00:56:34,223 --> 00:56:35,766
bigger than the Beatles.
1217
00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:37,811
And I saw the reaction of people
around New York,
1218
00:56:37,936 --> 00:56:40,647
and I saw hits being made
on the floor here.
1219
00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:44,400
150,000 singles were being sold
in the New York market
1220
00:56:44,567 --> 00:56:46,902
with very little radio play
on the pop stations.
1221
00:56:47,069 --> 00:56:48,737
[Sharon] All of a sudden,
it was not
1222
00:56:48,904 --> 00:56:49,947
underground anymore.
1223
00:56:50,114 --> 00:56:51,574
It was commercially viable,
1224
00:56:51,699 --> 00:56:53,993
and people were making
mad money,
1225
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:55,911
and it was like, "Well, if you
handle it the right way,
1226
00:56:56,078 --> 00:56:56,746
we can make more mad money."
1227
00:56:56,871 --> 00:56:59,248
And so it was like, you know...
1228
00:56:59,373 --> 00:57:00,791
♪♪♪
1229
00:57:00,958 --> 00:57:03,085
Hey Jerry, what's the story?
1230
00:57:03,210 --> 00:57:04,920
You want a party,
you want to dance,
1231
00:57:05,045 --> 00:57:07,674
you want a great night out?
Come on down to Jerry's Disco.
1232
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:08,715
[Newscaster] These
students are enrolled
1233
00:57:08,842 --> 00:57:10,634
in a ten week class
at Humber College.
1234
00:57:10,802 --> 00:57:15,014
Billboard Magazine now stages
two conventions a year
1235
00:57:15,139 --> 00:57:16,598
so promoters can promote
their products.
1236
00:57:16,766 --> 00:57:19,601
[Vince] Once disco
became a name,
1237
00:57:19,768 --> 00:57:23,480
a sellable thing that
record companies
1238
00:57:23,648 --> 00:57:26,484
wanted to make money off of,
1239
00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:28,819
it became so formulaic.
1240
00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:31,447
Just one bad record
after the other.
1241
00:57:31,614 --> 00:57:33,324
♪♪♪
1242
00:57:33,491 --> 00:57:34,616
[Legs McNeil] I don't
think that 'hip'
1243
00:57:34,741 --> 00:57:37,203
can be a mass movement.
1244
00:57:37,328 --> 00:57:42,625
♪♪♪
1245
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:43,710
[Legs] Everything
became disco music,
1246
00:57:43,835 --> 00:57:46,795
for at least three years.
1247
00:57:46,962 --> 00:57:49,632
You know, it's like
anything else.
1248
00:57:49,757 --> 00:57:52,552
You know, familiarity
breeds contempt.
1249
00:57:52,677 --> 00:57:53,844
A lot of the songs,
you know,
1250
00:57:54,011 --> 00:57:54,804
when I started shopping
for them,
1251
00:57:54,971 --> 00:57:55,971
they had "Disco! Disco!"
1252
00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:58,808
They would, the singer would
say that in the song.
1253
00:57:58,933 --> 00:57:59,516
And that was the part like, ugh,
1254
00:57:59,683 --> 00:58:02,895
we didn't want that part.
1255
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:06,982
It was on the 12-inch,
"Disco 12-Inch."
1256
00:58:07,942 --> 00:58:08,735
That was kind of like
a "hell no" too.
1257
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:12,404
Disco sucks. Disco is a disease.
1258
00:58:12,529 --> 00:58:15,032
Disco is fascism.
1259
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,659
♪♪♪
1260
00:58:17,826 --> 00:58:18,661
[Legs] When Punk Magazine
first came out,
1261
00:58:18,786 --> 00:58:21,498
we were rebelling against
everything.
1262
00:58:21,663 --> 00:58:22,706
We wanted to be new.
1263
00:58:22,873 --> 00:58:26,543
The label of the editorial was -
in very bold letters -
1264
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:29,172
"Death to Disco."
1265
00:58:29,297 --> 00:58:31,715
♪♪♪
1266
00:58:31,882 --> 00:58:34,677
It was annoying because they
were believing the hype.
1267
00:58:34,844 --> 00:58:40,516
It was like, we fought so hard
to have something else heard
1268
00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:42,601
other than what
was on the radio.
1269
00:58:42,726 --> 00:58:48,690
Disco seemed to us to be
the quintessential music
1270
00:58:48,815 --> 00:58:50,527
of mediocrity.
1271
00:58:50,692 --> 00:58:53,445
And we said, "Where's the
great Rock and Roll?"
1272
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:56,782
And the fashion of disco,
it looked like you know,
1273
00:58:56,907 --> 00:58:59,284
swingers at a Holiday Inn.
1274
00:58:59,409 --> 00:59:02,371
We didn't. We wanted to wear
T-shirts and sneakers
1275
00:59:02,496 --> 00:59:04,081
and black leather jackets.
1276
00:59:04,248 --> 00:59:05,958
And we had a big Fonz poster.
1277
00:59:06,083 --> 00:59:08,460
We loved the Fonz, you know.
1278
00:59:08,585 --> 00:59:10,630
He was what we aspired to be.
1279
00:59:13,090 --> 00:59:14,717
[John Ferrara] And listen,
right from the head.
1280
00:59:14,884 --> 00:59:16,886
Start off with just snare
drum... or just bass drum.
1281
00:59:17,052 --> 00:59:18,637
Just bass drum, nothing else.
1282
00:59:18,762 --> 00:59:19,721
♪♪♪
1283
00:59:19,846 --> 00:59:21,431
Leave this out.
1284
00:59:21,598 --> 00:59:23,101
Everything's going to be based
around the bass drum.
1285
00:59:23,268 --> 00:59:25,728
Okay. Let's get it as hot and as
pulsating as we can.
1286
00:59:25,895 --> 00:59:29,940
♪♪♪
1287
00:59:30,107 --> 00:59:31,650
Yeah, that sounds bad!
1288
00:59:31,775 --> 00:59:33,235
♪♪♪
1289
00:59:33,402 --> 00:59:34,737
[Jellybean] It got to
a point where there was
1290
00:59:34,904 --> 00:59:36,781
just so much disco.
1291
00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:40,826
I mean, I was getting hundreds
of new releases a week
1292
00:59:40,951 --> 00:59:42,661
and I was DJing three
or four nights a week.
1293
00:59:42,786 --> 00:59:45,790
So I was constantly listening
to new stuff and going,
1294
00:59:45,956 --> 00:59:48,668
"This is not danceable.
Why is it on a 12-inch?
1295
00:59:48,793 --> 00:59:51,253
Why does it say 'disco'?"
1296
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:55,090
That branding, you know,
"It's a disco tune,"
1297
00:59:55,257 --> 00:59:58,427
please. That started
making me sick.
1298
00:59:58,594 --> 00:59:59,636
It was all about sales.
1299
00:59:59,804 --> 01:00:01,764
It wasn't about the love
of the music
1300
01:00:01,931 --> 01:00:03,974
and how good it was.
1301
01:00:04,141 --> 01:00:06,853
It was just about money.
1302
01:00:06,978 --> 01:00:08,770
Have no fear, Paco is here.
Paco's my name,
1303
01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:10,355
and disco's my game.
1304
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,107
We'll boogie down 'til
10 o'clock tonight
1305
01:00:12,275 --> 01:00:12,859
with the best disco songs
in the nation.
1306
01:00:12,984 --> 01:00:17,822
♪♪♪
1307
01:00:17,989 --> 01:00:20,157
[Nona] Over time,
when it sort of exploded
1308
01:00:20,324 --> 01:00:24,621
into the real "disco" period,
it became extreme.
1309
01:00:24,746 --> 01:00:27,956
The extremes of sexuality,
1310
01:00:28,123 --> 01:00:30,543
the extremes of drug abuse,
1311
01:00:30,668 --> 01:00:33,045
the extremes of, you know,
1312
01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:37,132
sort of individuals doing
harm to themselves.
1313
01:00:37,257 --> 01:00:39,052
♪♪♪
1314
01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:42,679
You're offered all sorts
of drugs and drink,
1315
01:00:42,846 --> 01:00:44,389
and you're going to say no?
1316
01:00:44,514 --> 01:00:47,685
Please, you want to experiment
and have some fun.
1317
01:00:47,851 --> 01:00:50,480
You know, roulette.
"Come on, take this."
1318
01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:51,648
"I'll take the yellow one."
1319
01:00:51,773 --> 01:00:52,190
"That red one. What does it do?"
1320
01:00:52,357 --> 01:00:52,898
"You'll find out."
1321
01:00:53,023 --> 01:00:55,860
♪♪♪
1322
01:00:56,027 --> 01:00:59,072
[Nicky] Ethyl Chloride is
something that tennis players
1323
01:00:59,197 --> 01:01:02,241
use if they have an injury
to numb them.
1324
01:01:02,366 --> 01:01:05,911
And people were spraying it on
rags and inhaling it,
1325
01:01:06,036 --> 01:01:08,331
and getting a buzz off of it.
1326
01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:11,166
So they would spray it
and give you the hankie,
1327
01:01:11,333 --> 01:01:12,835
and it was just out
of their mouth.
1328
01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:13,920
Yeah, they'd go like
this on you.
1329
01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:17,255
It's horrible. Probably
fried our brains.
1330
01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:20,551
I was using a lot of drugs
and I was out of control.
1331
01:01:20,717 --> 01:01:22,386
It was out of control.
1332
01:01:22,552 --> 01:01:24,346
Everyone was high.
1333
01:01:24,514 --> 01:01:27,433
♪♪♪
1334
01:01:32,563 --> 01:01:34,773
♪♪♪
1335
01:01:40,154 --> 01:01:41,864
My best friend called me
and said,
1336
01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:47,161
"I tried heroin.
And it's fantastic."
1337
01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:53,208
The drugs had taken
over my life so much
1338
01:01:53,375 --> 01:01:56,795
that I felt like there was
a wall between me
1339
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,797
and other people.
1340
01:01:58,922 --> 01:02:00,632
♪♪♪
1341
01:02:00,757 --> 01:02:04,554
[Nicky] That was the beginning
of the end for me.
1342
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:09,976
♪♪♪
1343
01:02:10,101 --> 01:02:11,893
♪ Disco Inferno ♪
by The Trammps
1344
01:02:12,018 --> 01:02:16,023
♪♪♪
1345
01:02:20,110 --> 01:02:22,487
[Newscaster]
Saturday Night Fever,
1346
01:02:22,612 --> 01:02:24,449
one of the most successful
films of the year.
1347
01:02:24,614 --> 01:02:28,286
The movie already has grossed
nearly $100 million
1348
01:02:28,453 --> 01:02:30,496
in the United States
and Canada alone.
1349
01:02:30,621 --> 01:02:34,583
♪♪♪
1350
01:02:34,708 --> 01:02:36,835
[Newscaster] Over 10 million
albums of the soundtrack
1351
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,755
by the Bee Gees
have been sold,
1352
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,757
and it has made a superstar
out of 24 year old
1353
01:02:41,924 --> 01:02:42,924
John Travolta.
1354
01:02:43,049 --> 01:02:45,094
It's a young man, going through,
1355
01:02:45,219 --> 01:02:47,096
trying to think of what
he wants to do
1356
01:02:47,262 --> 01:02:48,431
for the rest of his life.
1357
01:02:48,598 --> 01:02:49,973
And I think it's a very
important film.
1358
01:02:50,141 --> 01:02:51,933
[Mark] That was
a seminal point
1359
01:02:52,058 --> 01:02:55,480
because it was a
mass-marketed movie,
1360
01:02:55,645 --> 01:02:57,857
and it introduced literally
millions of people
1361
01:02:57,982 --> 01:03:02,987
across America to
a particular element
1362
01:03:03,154 --> 01:03:05,531
of the club scene
at that time.
1363
01:03:05,656 --> 01:03:06,866
♪♪♪
1364
01:03:06,991 --> 01:03:08,701
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1365
01:03:08,826 --> 01:03:10,536
♪ Disco inferno ♪
1366
01:03:10,661 --> 01:03:11,244
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1367
01:03:11,369 --> 01:03:13,331
♪ Burn that mother down ♪
1368
01:03:13,498 --> 01:03:16,125
[Mark] Clubs were
siloed in those days.
1369
01:03:16,291 --> 01:03:17,960
There were the
underground clubs,
1370
01:03:18,127 --> 01:03:20,045
there were Black clubs like
Leviticus and Othello
1371
01:03:20,170 --> 01:03:22,632
and other places.
1372
01:03:22,757 --> 01:03:24,634
But in Bay Ridge and some of
these other neighborhoods,
1373
01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:27,886
which is where Saturday Night
Fever was, was set,
1374
01:03:28,011 --> 01:03:30,806
that was a whole
different thing.
1375
01:03:30,931 --> 01:03:34,351
All kinds of places were
converted at night to discos.
1376
01:03:34,518 --> 01:03:37,063
Some places - restaurants
or whatever.
1377
01:03:37,188 --> 01:03:40,565
And it was a separate scene,
1378
01:03:40,690 --> 01:03:43,819
and that was the scene
that got projected.
1379
01:03:43,944 --> 01:03:46,029
That was the scene that blew up.
1380
01:03:46,197 --> 01:03:49,199
I think for a lot of people it
became aspirational.
1381
01:03:49,366 --> 01:03:51,076
He became this 'King of
the Night', you know,
1382
01:03:51,201 --> 01:03:53,538
dressed and spinning
women around.
1383
01:03:53,703 --> 01:03:58,583
And one of its by-products
was that everybody
1384
01:03:58,708 --> 01:03:59,627
made a disco record.
1385
01:03:59,752 --> 01:04:02,587
[Jellybean] Ethel Merman
made a disco record.
1386
01:04:02,712 --> 01:04:04,882
Yeah, there was an Avon lady
made a disco record,
1387
01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:07,342
it was endless.
1388
01:04:07,509 --> 01:04:10,179
It became like a marketing tool
for record companies.
1389
01:04:10,304 --> 01:04:11,054
And then next thing I know,
1390
01:04:11,221 --> 01:04:15,351
it became this next
level big thing,
1391
01:04:15,476 --> 01:04:18,520
and it's like super huge,
and Studio 54,
1392
01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:21,690
and all these other super
expensive discos that...
1393
01:04:21,815 --> 01:04:23,567
the folks that really laid
this foundation
1394
01:04:23,734 --> 01:04:25,194
really couldn't go
to those places.
1395
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,279
We didn't, you know,
you couldn't get in.
1396
01:04:27,737 --> 01:04:29,114
[Newscaster] This is
the scene outside
1397
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:31,032
a New York disco
called Studio 54.
1398
01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:34,536
This is the place that's 'in'
with the disco crowd,
1399
01:04:34,703 --> 01:04:36,080
except that these people
are still out.
1400
01:04:36,246 --> 01:04:38,583
No pushing!
1401
01:04:38,748 --> 01:04:40,418
[Newscaster] Of course,
Liza Minnelli
1402
01:04:40,585 --> 01:04:42,043
and her kind of celebrities
sweep right through
1403
01:04:42,168 --> 01:04:43,753
the protective ranks
of door keepers.
1404
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,132
One of the owners, Steve Rubell,
works the door.
1405
01:04:46,257 --> 01:04:48,092
He is choosy about who gets in,
1406
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:50,427
and that adds to the mystique
1407
01:04:50,594 --> 01:04:52,846
and the desperation
to be accepted.
1408
01:04:53,346 --> 01:04:55,141
Oh, I just want to
watch the stars.
1409
01:04:55,266 --> 01:04:58,060
I saw Cheryl Tiegs,
Beverly Johnson,
1410
01:04:58,185 --> 01:04:58,936
quite a few celebrities.
1411
01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:01,563
Open up the doors now!
1412
01:05:01,730 --> 01:05:02,940
[crowd chatter]
1413
01:05:03,107 --> 01:05:06,235
... because I'm going back to
Atlanta, Georgia tomorrow,
1414
01:05:06,402 --> 01:05:09,404
and I've seen it in People
Magazine in every issue.
1415
01:05:09,572 --> 01:05:10,614
The zoo?
1416
01:05:10,781 --> 01:05:12,074
You go to the zoo to watch
the animals.
1417
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:14,493
These people are crowded
here right now
1418
01:05:14,619 --> 01:05:17,621
to watch all these freaky people
file into this place.
1419
01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:20,750
[Nicky] Steve is like
my biggest fan.
1420
01:05:20,915 --> 01:05:24,252
He's at the Gallery every
Saturday night
1421
01:05:24,377 --> 01:05:26,839
and he's opening this club,
1422
01:05:26,964 --> 01:05:28,799
and they want me to play there.
1423
01:05:28,965 --> 01:05:31,677
I was the first DJ at Studio 54.
1424
01:05:31,802 --> 01:05:34,096
[Jellybean] On the night
that it opened,
1425
01:05:34,262 --> 01:05:34,971
I had some friends over.
1426
01:05:35,139 --> 01:05:37,266
I was like,
"Let's go check it out."
1427
01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:40,936
So only one person
that was with us got in.
1428
01:05:41,061 --> 01:05:46,275
And then, I went there every
night and stood outside
1429
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:48,777
until I was finally let in.
1430
01:05:48,944 --> 01:05:52,447
♪ Everyone's a Winner ♪
by Hot Chocolate
1431
01:05:52,614 --> 01:05:54,116
♪♪♪
1432
01:05:54,241 --> 01:05:56,619
You're not shaved.
There's no way you're coming in.
1433
01:05:56,786 --> 01:06:00,288
There was that whole
curated crowd
1434
01:06:00,456 --> 01:06:04,210
that was there from Calvin
Klein, Andy Warhol,
1435
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:08,214
Truman Capote. So there's
a lot of celebrity-driven...
1436
01:06:08,339 --> 01:06:09,005
in Studio 54.
1437
01:06:09,172 --> 01:06:12,051
♪♪♪
1438
01:06:12,176 --> 01:06:14,052
♪ Everyone's a winner, baby ♪
1439
01:06:14,177 --> 01:06:16,137
♪ That's the truth ♪
1440
01:06:16,304 --> 01:06:17,806
♪ Yes, that's the truth ♪
1441
01:06:17,931 --> 01:06:19,976
♪ Making love to you
is such a thrill ♪
1442
01:06:20,141 --> 01:06:21,018
♪♪♪
1443
01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:23,020
♪ Everyone's a winner, baby ♪
1444
01:06:23,186 --> 01:06:24,230
♪That's no lie ♪
1445
01:06:24,355 --> 01:06:25,230
♪ That's no lie ♪
1446
01:06:25,355 --> 01:06:27,065
♪ You never fail ♪
1447
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:29,735
♪ To satisfy ♪
1448
01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:34,824
♪ Satisfy ♪
1449
01:06:34,949 --> 01:06:36,032
Everyone talked about it.
1450
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:39,996
If you were dressed
exotically like we were,
1451
01:06:40,161 --> 01:06:42,748
Steve would wave us in.
1452
01:06:42,873 --> 01:06:45,208
It was glamorous, and there
was celebrities,
1453
01:06:45,375 --> 01:06:48,170
and so forth, but I felt
uncomfortable.
1454
01:06:48,337 --> 01:06:51,047
It's just my opinion,
I thought we were part
1455
01:06:51,215 --> 01:06:57,054
of the scenery for people who
were wanting something
1456
01:06:57,221 --> 01:06:59,764
exotic at the same time.
1457
01:06:59,889 --> 01:07:03,436
But it was 'approved', and they
could go to the VIP room
1458
01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:07,148
with Halston, and Liza Minnelli
and these people.
1459
01:07:07,898 --> 01:07:10,609
When you're going, "You,
not you, you, not you."
1460
01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,527
You're hurting
a lot of feelings.
1461
01:07:12,694 --> 01:07:15,031
And it created a big backlash.
1462
01:07:15,156 --> 01:07:17,699
♪♪♪
1463
01:07:17,824 --> 01:07:20,453
We tried to get into
Studio 54 one night
1464
01:07:20,578 --> 01:07:22,203
because Grace Jones
had called us up and said,
1465
01:07:22,328 --> 01:07:25,540
"Hey, you're my personal guest.
1466
01:07:25,708 --> 01:07:27,250
Just go to the stage door,
1467
01:07:27,418 --> 01:07:29,545
and tell them your
personal friends
1468
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:32,130
of Miss Grace Jones, verbatim."
1469
01:07:32,255 --> 01:07:38,554
Thing is, we didn't know that
Grace Jones's speaking voice
1470
01:07:38,721 --> 01:07:40,598
is her real speaking voice.
1471
01:07:40,764 --> 01:07:44,226
She sounded like a cross
between Marlene Dietrich
1472
01:07:44,393 --> 01:07:46,728
and Bela Lugosi.
1473
01:07:46,895 --> 01:07:48,272
♪♪♪
1474
01:07:48,438 --> 01:07:50,900
[Nile] We were young, man.
We were kids.
1475
01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:52,400
We didn't know anything.
1476
01:07:52,525 --> 01:07:53,694
Somebody said,
"Knock on the door
1477
01:07:53,819 --> 01:07:55,945
and tell them you're personal
friends of Miss Grace Jones
1478
01:07:56,112 --> 01:07:57,281
with that accent?"
1479
01:07:57,447 --> 01:07:58,824
And we kept trying to
get the accent right.
1480
01:07:58,949 --> 01:08:01,160
"We are personal friends
of Miss Grace Jones."
1481
01:08:01,285 --> 01:08:04,079
Instead of the guy
letting us in,
1482
01:08:04,245 --> 01:08:07,083
he went, "Aw, fuck off!"
1483
01:08:07,249 --> 01:08:08,416
We said, "No, no, no!
1484
01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:10,628
We're personal friends
of Miss Grace Jones!"
1485
01:08:10,794 --> 01:08:11,419
He came back to the door
and he said,
1486
01:08:11,544 --> 01:08:14,173
"Didn't I tell you to fuck off?"
1487
01:08:14,298 --> 01:08:16,342
It's like, wow.
1488
01:08:18,302 --> 01:08:20,428
[Nile] We are freezing,
our shoes were wet.
1489
01:08:20,596 --> 01:08:23,807
They ruined my expensive
Maud Frizon suede shoes.
1490
01:08:23,973 --> 01:08:25,267
Fortunately, I live
one block away.
1491
01:08:25,433 --> 01:08:28,437
♪♪♪
1492
01:08:28,603 --> 01:08:31,190
On the way to my apartment,
we picked up two bottles
1493
01:08:31,315 --> 01:08:33,526
of Dom Perignon,
which we used to call
1494
01:08:33,651 --> 01:08:36,277
'Rock and Roll Mouthwash'
back in the day.
1495
01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:41,115
We were pissed off, so we down
the bottles of champagne
1496
01:08:41,282 --> 01:08:45,954
very quickly and I picked
up my guitar and jam.
1497
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:48,164
So we wrote this song called,
'Aw, Fuck Off'.
1498
01:08:48,331 --> 01:08:50,124
And it was pretty good.
1499
01:08:50,250 --> 01:08:51,960
"Aw, fuck off!"
1500
01:08:52,128 --> 01:08:53,337
[makes guitar sounds]
1501
01:08:53,504 --> 01:08:55,380
You know it was like,
that kind of song.
1502
01:08:55,505 --> 01:08:58,676
And we were crying.
We had each other on the floor.
1503
01:08:58,843 --> 01:09:00,844
But Bernard then looks
at me and says -
1504
01:09:01,011 --> 01:09:03,888
he used to always pull his
sunglasses down over his nose
1505
01:09:04,013 --> 01:09:05,141
when he got serious.
1506
01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:07,642
And he says. "Yo, my man,
1507
01:09:07,767 --> 01:09:10,020
you do know this shit is
happening, right?"
1508
01:09:10,187 --> 01:09:11,896
You got to remember,
this is a couple of years
1509
01:09:12,021 --> 01:09:13,147
before hip-hop.
1510
01:09:13,315 --> 01:09:15,692
And I'm like, "Bernard,
we're not going to get,
1511
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:18,154
Aw, Fuck Off on the radio."
1512
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:20,990
He's like, "Let's work on it
man, that's what we do.
1513
01:09:21,115 --> 01:09:22,407
Let's work on it."
1514
01:09:22,532 --> 01:09:29,080
'Freak' is a good euphemism
for the other F-word.
1515
01:09:29,205 --> 01:09:32,793
And so we wrote Aw, Freak Off.
1516
01:09:34,335 --> 01:09:36,672
No matter how many times
we sang it and played it,
1517
01:09:36,838 --> 01:09:38,883
it was not lifting my skirt.
1518
01:09:39,048 --> 01:09:41,677
Boom. Light bulb goes off
over Bernard's head,
1519
01:09:41,843 --> 01:09:45,181
and he says, "Damn, it's like
that dance my kids are doing."
1520
01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:45,847
"What dance?"
1521
01:09:45,972 --> 01:09:46,347
♪ Le Freak ♪ by Chic
1522
01:09:46,514 --> 01:09:48,517
♪ Ah, freak out!
1523
01:09:48,683 --> 01:09:50,852
♪ Le freak, c'est chic ♪
1524
01:09:50,977 --> 01:09:51,853
♪ Freak out ♪
1525
01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:53,313
♪♪♪
1526
01:09:53,438 --> 01:09:56,525
♪ Ah, freak out ♪
1527
01:09:56,691 --> 01:09:58,776
♪ Le freak, c'est chic ♪
1528
01:09:58,902 --> 01:09:59,861
♪ Freak out ♪
1529
01:09:59,986 --> 01:10:02,447
♪♪♪
1530
01:10:02,572 --> 01:10:03,907
♪ Now freak ♪
1531
01:10:04,074 --> 01:10:08,036
♪♪♪
1532
01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:13,249
[Nile] Le Freak was
so big, you know.
1533
01:10:13,416 --> 01:10:15,419
Now everybody was
interested in Chic.
1534
01:10:15,585 --> 01:10:17,170
That was the disco group.
1535
01:10:17,295 --> 01:10:19,589
That was the disco group
that actually made it.
1536
01:10:19,757 --> 01:10:21,592
And they were playing
their music inside,
1537
01:10:21,758 --> 01:10:23,052
and they couldn't
get in the club.
1538
01:10:23,218 --> 01:10:24,136
They wouldn't let them in.
1539
01:10:24,261 --> 01:10:25,053
♪♪♪
1540
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:26,554
When Le Freak came out,
1541
01:10:26,679 --> 01:10:30,099
I was doing The Freak.
[laughs]
1542
01:10:30,267 --> 01:10:34,062
♪♪♪
1543
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,271
♪ I said freak ♪
1544
01:10:35,438 --> 01:10:39,901
♪♪♪
1545
01:10:40,026 --> 01:10:43,739
[Kathy] What disco music did do,
is it opened the barriers
1546
01:10:43,905 --> 01:10:46,784
of music being separated
and segregated.
1547
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:49,078
There was R&B charts,
there were Pop charts.
1548
01:10:49,203 --> 01:10:50,579
I remember, I think it was
1549
01:10:50,704 --> 01:10:51,621
You Don't Send Me Flowers
Anymore
1550
01:10:51,789 --> 01:10:54,290
with Neil Diamond and
Barbra Streisand was #1.
1551
01:10:54,458 --> 01:10:57,628
And then, then Le Freak
came out,
1552
01:10:57,794 --> 01:10:59,588
and it went right to #1.
1553
01:10:59,754 --> 01:11:01,257
And people were livid.
1554
01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:04,843
I remember that was like,
"That can't happen.
1555
01:11:04,968 --> 01:11:06,971
We've got to do something
about this music,
1556
01:11:07,137 --> 01:11:08,304
it's out of control.
1557
01:11:08,472 --> 01:11:10,432
It has no color. It can do
whatever it wants.
1558
01:11:10,557 --> 01:11:12,101
And we can't control it."
1559
01:11:12,267 --> 01:11:15,437
♪♪♪
1560
01:11:15,562 --> 01:11:17,356
I played for the Bianca Jagger
birthday party
1561
01:11:17,481 --> 01:11:21,192
where she rode in
on the white horse.
1562
01:11:21,317 --> 01:11:24,029
And all that was really nice,
1563
01:11:24,154 --> 01:11:25,947
but I got fired.
1564
01:11:26,115 --> 01:11:27,281
[laughs]
1565
01:11:27,407 --> 01:11:28,450
It was out of control.
1566
01:11:28,575 --> 01:11:31,160
♪♪♪
1567
01:11:31,328 --> 01:11:32,454
[Nicky] He wanted
a certain type of people,
1568
01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:35,790
and created a big backlash.
1569
01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:39,878
♪♪♪
1570
01:11:40,004 --> 01:11:42,714
[crowd chatting]
1571
01:11:42,839 --> 01:11:44,799
[Nile] And that
became the vibe
1572
01:11:44,967 --> 01:11:48,303
for big clubs after that,
you know.
1573
01:11:48,469 --> 01:11:53,142
Quite a few of them opened up
and did extremely well.
1574
01:11:53,267 --> 01:11:57,312
I mean, you know, until
the summer of '79.
1575
01:11:57,437 --> 01:11:58,856
[explosions]
1576
01:11:59,022 --> 01:12:00,481
[Reporter] Comiskey Park
hosted a disco demolition today.
1577
01:12:00,606 --> 01:12:02,191
[Reporter] They blow up
any disco records
1578
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:03,819
you bring to the park.
1579
01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:05,321
[Reporter] WLUP's Steve Dahl
led his followers
1580
01:12:05,486 --> 01:12:06,655
in song and chants on the field.
1581
01:12:06,821 --> 01:12:09,325
Us rock and rollers
here in Chicago
1582
01:12:09,490 --> 01:12:11,535
think Disco sucks!
1583
01:12:11,701 --> 01:12:15,664
[crowd chanting] Disco sucks!
1584
01:12:15,789 --> 01:12:18,374
[Martha] Telling people to
bring their disco records
1585
01:12:18,541 --> 01:12:20,044
and, "We're going
to burn them"
1586
01:12:20,209 --> 01:12:21,754
and all this other
kind of stuff.
1587
01:12:21,879 --> 01:12:23,422
I just thought it was
absolutely stupid.
1588
01:12:23,547 --> 01:12:26,924
We are the Insane Coho Lips,
that's the anti-disco army.
1589
01:12:27,051 --> 01:12:28,843
It's not so much the
music that I dislike,
1590
01:12:29,011 --> 01:12:31,347
it's actually the culture. And
we're a Rock and Roll station.
1591
01:12:31,472 --> 01:12:32,681
That's true. Hardcore
Rock and Roll station.
1592
01:12:32,847 --> 01:12:34,682
And it's actually quite
intimidating
1593
01:12:34,849 --> 01:12:36,893
to most Rock and Rollers because
you have to look perfect.
1594
01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:37,518
Your hair has to be beautiful.
1595
01:12:37,643 --> 01:12:39,562
I can't dance.
1596
01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:41,231
I can't find a white
three-piece suit
1597
01:12:41,397 --> 01:12:44,067
that fits me off the rack,
that hangs well.
1598
01:12:44,234 --> 01:12:46,111
For other people to say,
1599
01:12:46,236 --> 01:12:48,696
"Well, we don't like
that kind of music
1600
01:12:48,864 --> 01:12:52,284
and we don't like those
kinds of people."
1601
01:12:52,575 --> 01:12:55,120
Let people be who they are.
1602
01:12:55,245 --> 01:12:57,205
Us Rock and Rollers
here in Chicago
1603
01:12:57,373 --> 01:12:59,749
think disco sucks.
1604
01:12:59,916 --> 01:13:03,294
[Nile] If you didn't know
it was 1979,
1605
01:13:03,419 --> 01:13:06,089
and you somehow put the footage
in black and white,
1606
01:13:06,255 --> 01:13:08,926
and you looked at book
burnings...
1607
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:09,593
What kind of world is this?
1608
01:13:09,759 --> 01:13:12,221
What is this?
1609
01:13:12,346 --> 01:13:15,557
Like, all of a sudden, we're
going back to the Dark Ages.
1610
01:13:15,682 --> 01:13:17,226
[Nicky] Underneath
this whole thing
1611
01:13:17,351 --> 01:13:21,938
are the radio stations, who
designed and pulled off
1612
01:13:22,106 --> 01:13:23,315
Comiskey Park.
1613
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,234
It was a radio station.
1614
01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:28,445
Radio stations were a very
powerful network,
1615
01:13:28,611 --> 01:13:34,618
and the radio station jocks
got tickets to this,
1616
01:13:34,785 --> 01:13:38,246
really nice limousine rides.
1617
01:13:38,371 --> 01:13:40,581
And we cut them off
in a lot of ways.
1618
01:13:40,706 --> 01:13:43,084
♪♪♪
1619
01:13:43,252 --> 01:13:45,337
[Radio DJ] Detroit
rockers engaged
1620
01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:46,463
in the abolition of disco...
1621
01:13:46,629 --> 01:13:48,173
We'll be right back with your...
1622
01:13:48,298 --> 01:13:49,508
[static sounds]
1623
01:13:49,633 --> 01:13:51,259
[Radio DJ] This is your
Rock and Roll General,
1624
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:52,678
so stick around!
1625
01:13:52,803 --> 01:13:54,012
[Radio DJ] Our phone lines
are now open.
1626
01:13:54,138 --> 01:13:57,932
Let us know how you would like
us to destroy this record.
1627
01:13:58,099 --> 01:13:59,517
♪♪♪
1628
01:13:59,642 --> 01:14:04,940
They were a powerful
force against us.
1629
01:14:05,106 --> 01:14:09,194
The record burning, the
explosions on the field.
1630
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:15,616
It wasn't as anti-disco as it
was anti-people of color.
1631
01:14:15,741 --> 01:14:17,535
It was anti-gay people,
1632
01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:20,705
it was anti-impoverished
peoples.
1633
01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:23,875
It promptly burgeoned
out of control,
1634
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,544
and turned into
a full-blown riot.
1635
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:28,713
[Reporter] This garbage of
demolishing a record
1636
01:14:28,838 --> 01:14:31,133
has turned into a fiasco.
1637
01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:36,221
♪♪♪
1638
01:14:36,346 --> 01:14:38,682
Stonewall was a riot.
1639
01:14:38,848 --> 01:14:41,642
And here we have
ten years later,
1640
01:14:41,767 --> 01:14:44,980
this disco backlash
was also a riot.
1641
01:14:45,146 --> 01:14:48,984
And what are they rioting about?
Music?
1642
01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:51,570
It seems always to
be that, you know,
1643
01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:54,071
"You're having too much fun.
1644
01:14:54,197 --> 01:14:55,656
You just having too much fun.
1645
01:14:55,781 --> 01:14:57,993
We're fine with you
being in the closet."
1646
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,160
♪♪♪
1647
01:14:59,285 --> 01:15:00,661
[Mark] What are
they rioting about?
1648
01:15:02,121 --> 01:15:06,209
A loss of influence,
a loss of power,
1649
01:15:06,375 --> 01:15:10,880
and a loss of a narrative
that they had controlled
1650
01:15:11,048 --> 01:15:12,673
for a good long while.
1651
01:15:13,883 --> 01:15:18,222
Part of a larger backlash
against change.
1652
01:15:18,388 --> 01:15:19,681
♪♪♪
1653
01:15:19,806 --> 01:15:22,017
I always thought it
was white people,
1654
01:15:22,142 --> 01:15:26,021
the middle class, who didn't
want the integration.
1655
01:15:26,187 --> 01:15:28,190
The Village was Sodom
and Gomorrah,
1656
01:15:28,356 --> 01:15:32,444
and anything that downtown
New York embraced,
1657
01:15:32,569 --> 01:15:32,861
"No, no, no, no."
1658
01:15:33,027 --> 01:15:34,696
♪♪♪
1659
01:15:34,821 --> 01:15:36,530
Well, I... I can't take
any credit.
1660
01:15:36,697 --> 01:15:40,535
I've said all that it's not my
battle, it's God's battle.
1661
01:15:40,701 --> 01:15:42,870
♪♪♪
1662
01:15:42,995 --> 01:15:45,374
[Akia] I think it's easier for
folks to live in shame
1663
01:15:45,499 --> 01:15:47,793
because you can be
controlled in that way,
1664
01:15:47,918 --> 01:15:49,962
where watching black
queer people
1665
01:15:50,087 --> 01:15:52,713
unapologetically be who
they are within their skin
1666
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,801
allows other folks to claim
theirs as well.
1667
01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:59,096
When we legalize,
and even normalize,
1668
01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:01,722
and even glamorize
homosexuality,
1669
01:16:01,889 --> 01:16:03,808
many, many boys and girls
1670
01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:05,561
who don't have
the benefit of homes
1671
01:16:05,686 --> 01:16:08,938
that teach them right from wrong
are easily recruited,
1672
01:16:09,106 --> 01:16:12,066
subverted, great, great damage.
1673
01:16:12,191 --> 01:16:15,111
♪♪♪
1674
01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:19,074
Thank God for a president
who agrees in totality
1675
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,660
of what we morally
stand for here.
1676
01:16:21,785 --> 01:16:24,996
'Disco Sucks' was so all
encompassing
1677
01:16:25,121 --> 01:16:27,915
that we totally lost our way.
1678
01:16:28,083 --> 01:16:29,918
We didn't know what to do.
1679
01:16:30,084 --> 01:16:30,669
'Disco' was now a dirty word.
1680
01:16:30,794 --> 01:16:32,754
No one wanted to use it anymore.
1681
01:16:32,879 --> 01:16:34,755
I hate disco. It sucks, man.
1682
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,799
Disco sucks.
1683
01:16:36,967 --> 01:16:37,843
We went through the
disco period
1684
01:16:37,968 --> 01:16:39,428
along with everybody else.
1685
01:16:39,553 --> 01:16:40,928
I mean, Paul McCartney
made disco records,
1686
01:16:41,053 --> 01:16:42,431
The Stones made disco records.
1687
01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:45,642
It's easy, I think, for the
world out there
1688
01:16:45,808 --> 01:16:47,311
to slag you off and just say,
1689
01:16:47,477 --> 01:16:49,103
"Oh, great, it's the Bee Gees
again," you know?
1690
01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:51,147
Well I resent the idea of people
out there slagging us off,
1691
01:16:51,315 --> 01:16:52,106
and I don't want to
do an interview
1692
01:16:52,273 --> 01:16:53,775
that's going to be like this.
Thanks.
1693
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:55,776
No, I don't, sorry.
1694
01:16:55,901 --> 01:16:57,361
[Legs] White audiences
in the suburbs
1695
01:16:57,486 --> 01:17:00,449
who wanted to listen
to heavy metal,
1696
01:17:00,574 --> 01:17:01,866
hated this music too.
1697
01:17:01,991 --> 01:17:07,039
MTV and the big hair bands,
you know, came about.
1698
01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:13,378
That became a male dominated
period in terms of Rock.
1699
01:17:13,503 --> 01:17:16,130
But, you know, they were wearing
this spandex that we wore.
1700
01:17:16,255 --> 01:17:19,801
So I was like, "Really, guys,
why do you have a problem
1701
01:17:19,926 --> 01:17:21,803
with me in spandex, and you
don't have a problem
1702
01:17:21,928 --> 01:17:23,804
with David Lee Roth,"
you know?
1703
01:17:23,972 --> 01:17:26,724
There were a lot of people
ready to jump in
1704
01:17:26,849 --> 01:17:28,226
and go back to something
1705
01:17:28,352 --> 01:17:30,062
that they were really
comfortable with,
1706
01:17:30,187 --> 01:17:31,687
that didn't involve gay people
and black people.
1707
01:17:31,855 --> 01:17:34,231
♪♪♪
1708
01:17:34,357 --> 01:17:37,319
And at that point we decided
that we were a disco band
1709
01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:38,236
just to be defiant.
1710
01:17:38,361 --> 01:17:40,030
"Hell yeah, we're disco band."
1711
01:17:40,196 --> 01:17:43,659
Chic couldn't get arrested, and
no one would call us back.
1712
01:17:43,784 --> 01:17:47,663
We were hurt. We didn't
understand how people
1713
01:17:47,788 --> 01:17:52,416
who once loved us, the very
next day, discarded us.
1714
01:17:52,541 --> 01:17:55,879
Hence, the beginning of our
drug and alcohol downfall.
1715
01:17:56,045 --> 01:18:02,678
So, you know, my world started
to crash because of drugs.
1716
01:18:02,803 --> 01:18:06,389
It ramped up faster than you
could have ever imagined.
1717
01:18:06,556 --> 01:18:08,517
Someone came to the
back of the booth,
1718
01:18:08,642 --> 01:18:10,352
1979, and said to me,
1719
01:18:10,477 --> 01:18:13,062
"They say disco is dead, Nicky.
What do you think?"
1720
01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:15,147
And I said, "Yeah."
1721
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,945
For us, like, the whole
world changed.
1722
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:22,864
We...
1723
01:18:25,075 --> 01:18:28,911
It's making me a little bit
emotional here.
1724
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:30,539
I get a little emotional
over this
1725
01:18:30,664 --> 01:18:36,712
because this the start
of life for me,
1726
01:18:36,837 --> 01:18:40,464
this was... this was validation.
1727
01:18:41,674 --> 01:18:46,263
I still feel really emotional
about that period
1728
01:18:46,429 --> 01:18:48,889
because it was really
kind of amazing.
1729
01:18:49,057 --> 01:18:53,061
It was like tribal. It was
wonderful to be...
1730
01:18:53,186 --> 01:18:59,234
to feel part of something that
was much bigger than me.
1731
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:01,570
It's still really moving to me.
1732
01:19:03,362 --> 01:19:08,368
♪♪♪
1733
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:13,414
Federal health officials
consider it an epidemic.
1734
01:19:13,581 --> 01:19:15,291
[Reporter] It's a disease
first detected
1735
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,959
in the gay community, that has
now spread beyond that.
1736
01:19:17,127 --> 01:19:19,629
My own family
1737
01:19:19,795 --> 01:19:21,255
won't come to San Francisco
1738
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:23,924
for this parade because they're
afraid by breathing the air
1739
01:19:24,092 --> 01:19:25,259
that they're going to get AIDS.
1740
01:19:25,384 --> 01:19:25,802
When I came down
with this disease,
1741
01:19:25,968 --> 01:19:27,928
I found this button.
1742
01:19:28,053 --> 01:19:29,472
It absolutely reflected
my position.
1743
01:19:29,638 --> 01:19:31,974
You know, I, I may be down,
but I'm not out.
1744
01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:36,187
[Akia] What we lack in is all
those folks that were involved
1745
01:19:36,312 --> 01:19:39,106
in this music, they passed away.
1746
01:19:39,273 --> 01:19:41,359
So a lot of those stories,
1747
01:19:41,485 --> 01:19:42,944
and a lot of these really
beautiful moments
1748
01:19:43,069 --> 01:19:49,034
that came out of people trying
to seek refuge through this --
1749
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:51,785
I wouldn't even call it disco,
really like, music.
1750
01:19:51,953 --> 01:19:52,620
It's a culture.
1751
01:19:52,745 --> 01:19:53,954
♪ At Last I Am Free ♪ by Chic
1752
01:19:54,121 --> 01:19:57,459
♪ At last I am free ♪
1753
01:19:57,584 --> 01:20:01,463
♪ I can hardly see
in front of me ♪
1754
01:20:01,629 --> 01:20:07,968
♪ I can hardly see
in front of me ♪
1755
01:20:08,136 --> 01:20:10,638
So I went from
The Gallery closing
1756
01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:11,972
to this place called
Buttermilk Bottom,
1757
01:20:12,139 --> 01:20:17,978
where I played until 1981,
and...
1758
01:20:19,606 --> 01:20:22,651
David Rodriguez,
who was my DJ mentor,
1759
01:20:22,816 --> 01:20:23,860
dies of AIDS.
1760
01:20:24,026 --> 01:20:27,030
We were so close,
1761
01:20:27,196 --> 01:20:30,991
and it just blew me away.
1762
01:20:31,493 --> 01:20:35,079
[Jellybean] The AIDS epidemic
was so quick.
1763
01:20:35,204 --> 01:20:35,996
It was really sad,
you know,
1764
01:20:36,121 --> 01:20:39,084
to see the amount
of creative people
1765
01:20:39,209 --> 01:20:42,379
that died in a very short
period of time.
1766
01:20:42,545 --> 01:20:45,673
We've lost a couple
of generations
1767
01:20:45,839 --> 01:20:47,008
of promising great artists.
1768
01:20:47,174 --> 01:20:51,012
♪♪♪
1769
01:20:51,137 --> 01:20:56,017
It was like you didn't know
who was going to be next.
1770
01:20:56,183 --> 01:21:00,688
It took away almost
all of my friends.
1771
01:21:02,398 --> 01:21:04,942
And these are the people...
1772
01:21:05,067 --> 01:21:06,527
[sniffles]
1773
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:13,450
I really thought some
of them, I would...
1774
01:21:15,579 --> 01:21:19,874
I would grow up with,
or have them to talk to.
1775
01:21:20,249 --> 01:21:23,210
And I think about it now,
sometimes.
1776
01:21:25,088 --> 01:21:27,715
[weeping]
1777
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,051
♪♪♪
1778
01:21:30,218 --> 01:21:33,429
I think by '84, I stopped
going to bars
1779
01:21:33,597 --> 01:21:35,222
because people would move away.
1780
01:21:35,347 --> 01:21:36,641
I was DJing at Xenon,
1781
01:21:36,766 --> 01:21:40,477
and we had a big Gay Night
on Thursday,
1782
01:21:40,603 --> 01:21:42,563
and it kept getting smaller
and smaller.
1783
01:21:42,688 --> 01:21:45,150
There were nights I went home
screaming at God.
1784
01:21:45,275 --> 01:21:51,990
♪♪♪
1785
01:21:52,115 --> 01:21:56,076
I had went to see him
in San Francisco
1786
01:21:56,244 --> 01:21:59,914
about six months
before he passed,
1787
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:01,583
and I was glad that I did.
1788
01:22:01,708 --> 01:22:06,129
♪♪♪
1789
01:22:06,295 --> 01:22:08,548
But...
1790
01:22:09,298 --> 01:22:13,093
He kept up a brave fight.
1791
01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:16,263
♪♪♪
1792
01:22:21,393 --> 01:22:27,609
I decided I had to step out
of the music thing
1793
01:22:27,734 --> 01:22:31,655
in order to save my
own life from drugs
1794
01:22:31,821 --> 01:22:36,284
because everybody,
every one of my friends
1795
01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:42,456
thought I would be dead
in a couple of years.
1796
01:22:49,963 --> 01:22:51,340
[Billy] I came out in 1985,
1797
01:22:51,508 --> 01:22:54,968
right at the beginning
of the AIDS crisis.
1798
01:22:55,094 --> 01:22:58,013
The communal spaces in which
disco music was played
1799
01:22:58,181 --> 01:23:00,976
were also havens.
1800
01:23:01,142 --> 01:23:03,311
There's a saying
in the church,
1801
01:23:03,436 --> 01:23:06,313
take your burdens
to the Lord.
1802
01:23:06,481 --> 01:23:09,985
"I take my problems
to the dance floor."
1803
01:23:10,151 --> 01:23:12,195
It's the same thing.
1804
01:23:12,361 --> 01:23:15,490
For us, it became gay church.
1805
01:23:15,615 --> 01:23:21,036
It was a place where we
could engage spiritually
1806
01:23:21,204 --> 01:23:24,999
without being judged
for our queerness,
1807
01:23:25,165 --> 01:23:26,918
for our transness,
1808
01:23:27,043 --> 01:23:29,087
particularly...
1809
01:23:29,379 --> 01:23:32,382
in the moments where
I began to start feeling
1810
01:23:32,548 --> 01:23:36,886
put out by the church
because of my gayness,
1811
01:23:37,053 --> 01:23:38,388
because of my queerness.
1812
01:23:38,554 --> 01:23:39,179
It's been very healing for me.
1813
01:23:39,304 --> 01:23:42,182
♪♪♪
1814
01:23:42,349 --> 01:23:46,353
[Nigel] So I was hanging out at
one of my favorite clubs,
1815
01:23:46,478 --> 01:23:50,191
Leviticus, and then I hear
the Good Times bass line.
1816
01:23:50,357 --> 01:23:54,779
[vocalization of Good Times
bass rhythm]
1817
01:23:54,904 --> 01:23:57,072
And I'm hearing, you know, "I
said a hip hop, the hippie..."
1818
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,366
you know, all this stuff.
1819
01:23:59,534 --> 01:24:01,244
And it was, it was great.
It was groovin'.
1820
01:24:01,410 --> 01:24:02,911
You know, as soon
as I hear the song,
1821
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:04,580
I hear the bass and I go,
1822
01:24:04,748 --> 01:24:06,958
"There's only one guy in the
world who plays bass like that."
1823
01:24:07,083 --> 01:24:08,293
I said, "That's Bernard."
1824
01:24:08,418 --> 01:24:10,044
♪ Rapper's Delight ♪ by
The Sugarhill Gang
1825
01:24:10,169 --> 01:24:12,463
[Nile] I asked the DJ to show me
a copy of the record.
1826
01:24:12,588 --> 01:24:14,089
He was so excited.
He said,
1827
01:24:14,257 --> 01:24:15,967
"Man, I just picked this up
in Harlem today."
1828
01:24:16,092 --> 01:24:18,053
Whoa, wait a minute.
That's a little weird.
1829
01:24:18,261 --> 01:24:21,097
[Grandmaster Flash] Rapper's
Delight was everywhere.
1830
01:24:21,263 --> 01:24:23,391
And it took what we were
doing in the streets -
1831
01:24:23,516 --> 01:24:27,395
little business - now became
big business,
1832
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,105
and that became
the new bar to set.
1833
01:24:29,271 --> 01:24:31,231
♪♪♪
1834
01:24:31,398 --> 01:24:33,317
Walking past a laundromat,
1835
01:24:33,442 --> 01:24:35,904
and I was just hearing these
sounds coming out,
1836
01:24:36,071 --> 01:24:38,572
and they were playing
like, old Planet Rock.
1837
01:24:38,740 --> 01:24:41,075
I just fell in love
with the music,
1838
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,079
and started to fall in love
with the culture.
1839
01:24:44,245 --> 01:24:46,455
Like Rapper's Delight,
what's funny about that
1840
01:24:46,623 --> 01:24:49,750
is as much as I love that song,
1841
01:24:49,875 --> 01:24:53,254
it really, it really didn't hit
me the way it did
1842
01:24:53,379 --> 01:24:56,257
until I realized that it was
an old Disco record.
1843
01:24:56,423 --> 01:24:58,676
You know, it was
Nile Rodgers and Chic.
1844
01:24:58,802 --> 01:25:01,137
And I started to get
more into Disco,
1845
01:25:01,303 --> 01:25:03,597
even as a producer,
1846
01:25:03,722 --> 01:25:07,852
really when I started working
with KRS and BEP.
1847
01:25:07,977 --> 01:25:10,605
[Billy] I believe that disco
pushed the boundaries
1848
01:25:10,730 --> 01:25:13,525
of what masculinity could be.
1849
01:25:13,650 --> 01:25:16,361
And there was a backlash that
came in the Eighties,
1850
01:25:16,486 --> 01:25:21,950
that shut that expansion
of gender
1851
01:25:22,075 --> 01:25:26,120
and performative gender down.
It shut it down.
1852
01:25:26,245 --> 01:25:28,705
For a little while. It just
went underground.
1853
01:25:28,831 --> 01:25:34,462
♪♪♪
1854
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:36,129
[Mark] I mean, even going back
1855
01:25:36,255 --> 01:25:38,633
to the beginning of house music
in the early Eighties,
1856
01:25:38,758 --> 01:25:40,802
it was always like
lightning in a bottle.
1857
01:25:40,968 --> 01:25:42,887
I moved to Chicago so I can
have an opportunity
1858
01:25:43,012 --> 01:25:44,972
to try to create something
on my own.
1859
01:25:45,138 --> 01:25:47,349
[Mark] What was it, four years
after that demolition thing,
1860
01:25:47,517 --> 01:25:49,811
which was in '79?
1861
01:25:49,977 --> 01:25:51,728
By '83, the earliest house music
was coming out
1862
01:25:51,855 --> 01:25:56,484
of that same city that everybody
thinks destroyed Disco.
1863
01:25:56,609 --> 01:26:00,321
So when Frankie says that House
was Disco's Revenge,
1864
01:26:00,446 --> 01:26:02,656
that's what he's talking about.
1865
01:26:02,781 --> 01:26:04,325
"House music is
disco's revenge."
1866
01:26:04,450 --> 01:26:07,328
It hits it right on the nose.
1867
01:26:07,453 --> 01:26:10,539
It was a little bit
more laid back,
1868
01:26:10,706 --> 01:26:12,749
and it always made me feel sexy.
1869
01:26:12,875 --> 01:26:16,212
♪♪♪
1870
01:26:16,379 --> 01:26:18,173
There was always
some new musician,
1871
01:26:18,298 --> 01:26:21,843
new singer, new producer.
1872
01:26:22,968 --> 01:26:25,346
Disco was always able
to kind of revitalize itself.
1873
01:26:25,513 --> 01:26:26,388
♪ Good Life ♪ by Inner City
1874
01:26:26,556 --> 01:26:29,057
♪ I know you want to go ♪
1875
01:26:29,224 --> 01:26:31,227
[Kevin] I never really paid
attention to that
1876
01:26:31,393 --> 01:26:33,521
"Disco was dead"
1877
01:26:33,687 --> 01:26:35,356
because commercially
they tried to kill it,
1878
01:26:35,481 --> 01:26:37,901
but it evolved.
1879
01:26:38,066 --> 01:26:39,736
Really, it went back
underground.
1880
01:26:39,902 --> 01:26:41,070
♪♪♪
1881
01:26:41,236 --> 01:26:44,365
[Kevin] It just kept evolving
because the 'four on the floor,'
1882
01:26:44,490 --> 01:26:47,576
that's always been
the key to Disco.
1883
01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:49,454
[Earl] They use the
'four on the floor,'
1884
01:26:49,579 --> 01:26:51,204
the bass drum.
1885
01:26:51,330 --> 01:26:53,958
But they don't use a high-hat
in a song like that.
1886
01:26:54,083 --> 01:26:54,750
You don't hear the...
1887
01:26:54,918 --> 01:26:57,629
[vocalization of
high-hat rhythm]
1888
01:26:57,754 --> 01:26:58,379
because they think that's Disco.
1889
01:26:58,545 --> 01:27:00,548
They just use the...
1890
01:27:00,673 --> 01:27:02,799
[vocalization of
bass drum rhythm]
1891
01:27:02,926 --> 01:27:04,093
♪ Good life ♪
1892
01:27:04,259 --> 01:27:05,553
Having this technology,
1893
01:27:05,678 --> 01:27:06,387
it was the next step.
1894
01:27:06,553 --> 01:27:09,389
It opened up the doors.
1895
01:27:09,514 --> 01:27:13,061
I want to make this record,
I'm going to master it,
1896
01:27:13,186 --> 01:27:14,395
I'm going to put it out.
1897
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,396
And can't nobody
tell me I can't.
1898
01:27:16,521 --> 01:27:18,900
♪♪♪
1899
01:27:19,066 --> 01:27:21,736
All these independent labels
started releasing records
1900
01:27:21,861 --> 01:27:23,905
and became sort
of like mini majors.
1901
01:27:24,071 --> 01:27:24,905
♪♪♪
1902
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:26,990
[Reporter] How hot is
house music now?
1903
01:27:27,115 --> 01:27:29,285
On a scale of one to ten?
It's a twelve.
1904
01:27:29,451 --> 01:27:31,745
♪♪♪
1905
01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:34,456
[Nicky] Frankie did
his own thing.
1906
01:27:34,624 --> 01:27:38,585
Immediately, I was drawn
to house music.
1907
01:27:38,753 --> 01:27:45,258
I knew that this was a successor
to what I was doing
1908
01:27:45,426 --> 01:27:49,472
because it reminded me
of the very early club tracks
1909
01:27:49,638 --> 01:27:51,932
that I had played.
1910
01:27:52,642 --> 01:27:55,602
I would say House music
is refined Disco,
1911
01:27:55,727 --> 01:27:56,478
the new sound of Disco.
1912
01:27:56,646 --> 01:27:58,856
The Warehouse
itself inspired it,
1913
01:27:58,981 --> 01:28:00,482
and what I was doing
at The Warehouse
1914
01:28:00,650 --> 01:28:01,526
is nothing different than
what Larry was doing
1915
01:28:01,651 --> 01:28:03,945
in The Garage.
1916
01:28:04,111 --> 01:28:06,697
We were playing in clubs that
were more so our homes
1917
01:28:06,822 --> 01:28:07,447
than they were anything else.
1918
01:28:07,572 --> 01:28:09,325
♪♪♪
1919
01:28:09,491 --> 01:28:11,953
♪ Move your body ♪
1920
01:28:12,661 --> 01:28:16,874
♪♪♪
1921
01:28:21,087 --> 01:28:25,465
I'm directly influenced by the
work that Frankie Knuckles
1922
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:28,011
and Larry Levan were doing
1923
01:28:28,177 --> 01:28:31,138
because they were specifically
creating spaces
1924
01:28:31,306 --> 01:28:32,514
for black queer people,
1925
01:28:32,682 --> 01:28:34,474
and they just amplified
what was going on.
1926
01:28:34,599 --> 01:28:39,646
You get to really see a person
blossom in those spaces.
1927
01:28:39,771 --> 01:28:43,692
Historically, as we can see
with the history of disco,
1928
01:28:43,860 --> 01:28:46,654
a lot of nightlife culture is
birthed from queer people
1929
01:28:46,779 --> 01:28:49,156
just trying to exist.
1930
01:28:49,324 --> 01:28:52,325
Where would I be? Where,
what would I be listening to
1931
01:28:52,451 --> 01:28:54,536
if I was not existing in
the time that I'm in?
1932
01:28:54,704 --> 01:28:57,205
[audience cheering]
1933
01:28:57,373 --> 01:29:00,668
[Nile] Alright, are we ready
to get this party going?
1934
01:29:00,834 --> 01:29:03,212
[audience cheering]
1935
01:29:03,379 --> 01:29:06,590
♪ We've come too far ♪
1936
01:29:06,715 --> 01:29:11,678
♪ To give up who we are ♪
1937
01:29:11,846 --> 01:29:15,599
♪ So let's raise the bar ♪
1938
01:29:15,724 --> 01:29:20,437
♪ And our cups to the stars ♪
1939
01:29:20,562 --> 01:29:22,856
[audience cheering]
1940
01:29:22,981 --> 01:29:27,570
So that song, I co-wrote
with Daft Punk
1941
01:29:27,736 --> 01:29:29,030
and Pharrell Williams.
1942
01:29:29,155 --> 01:29:30,615
♪ Get Lucky ♪ by Daft Punk ft.
Pharrell Williams, Nile Rodgers
1943
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:32,575
♪I'm up all night to get some ♪
1944
01:29:32,741 --> 01:29:34,576
♪ She's up all night
for good fun ♪
1945
01:29:34,744 --> 01:29:37,370
♪ I'm up all night
to get lucky ♪
1946
01:29:37,496 --> 01:29:42,293
Daft Punk came to my house
to possibly work together.
1947
01:29:42,418 --> 01:29:44,712
So I went to Electric Lady
1948
01:29:44,879 --> 01:29:48,298
for what would ultimately
become Get Lucky.
1949
01:29:48,423 --> 01:29:49,717
I told Guy-Man,
1950
01:29:49,883 --> 01:29:53,596
"You know, Thomas, he's
standing right exactly where
1951
01:29:53,763 --> 01:29:56,057
Bernard Edwards
was, was standing
1952
01:29:56,182 --> 01:29:57,557
when we cut our
first Chic record."
1953
01:29:57,724 --> 01:30:00,770
So Thomas overheard that,
and he was like,
1954
01:30:00,937 --> 01:30:02,480
"How did you do
Chic Records?"
1955
01:30:02,605 --> 01:30:04,648
♪ We've come too far ♪
1956
01:30:04,773 --> 01:30:09,070
♪ To give up who we are ♪
1957
01:30:09,195 --> 01:30:11,739
So I said, "Well, let me
hear the song."
1958
01:30:11,905 --> 01:30:14,282
He turned the song on.
I wrote out a chart.
1959
01:30:14,450 --> 01:30:15,660
I listened to what everybody
was playing.
1960
01:30:15,785 --> 01:30:17,245
I said, "Now do me a favor.
1961
01:30:17,370 --> 01:30:19,496
Turn everybody down
except for the drums,
1962
01:30:19,621 --> 01:30:20,998
and let me play."
1963
01:30:21,124 --> 01:30:23,334
And to me, that felt
like the groove.
1964
01:30:23,459 --> 01:30:25,753
It felt like that's the way the
song should sound.
1965
01:30:25,919 --> 01:30:26,754
♪ I'm up all night
to get lucky ♪
1966
01:30:26,879 --> 01:30:29,089
♪ We're up all night
till the sun ♪
1967
01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:30,799
♪ We're up all night
to get some ♪
1968
01:30:30,967 --> 01:30:33,928
[Nile] Daft Punk somehow
did something amazing
1969
01:30:34,094 --> 01:30:35,929
at a time where nobody
was doing that.
1970
01:30:36,097 --> 01:30:37,472
♪ We're up all night
to get lucky ♪
1971
01:30:37,639 --> 01:30:38,641
♪ We're up all night
to get lucky ♪
1972
01:30:38,807 --> 01:30:44,813
[crowd chatter]
1973
01:30:44,981 --> 01:30:47,191
Now, I don't have my glasses on.
1974
01:30:47,316 --> 01:30:48,526
[laughing]
1975
01:30:48,651 --> 01:30:52,780
I'm going to the gig.
In London.
1976
01:30:52,905 --> 01:30:56,784
After Pride, the stragglers
who are still partying
1977
01:30:56,909 --> 01:30:58,535
after a day of partying.
1978
01:30:58,660 --> 01:31:01,621
Hey, how are you?
Good to see you!
1979
01:31:01,789 --> 01:31:02,623
Good to see you!
1980
01:31:02,748 --> 01:31:04,374
I'm so glad you're here.
1981
01:31:04,499 --> 01:31:06,334
♪♪♪
1982
01:31:06,502 --> 01:31:08,463
[Kathy] It keeps coming back.
1983
01:31:08,588 --> 01:31:11,339
They want to dress like it
because they're feeling it.
1984
01:31:11,507 --> 01:31:13,633
Like my dancers are all...
they're all in their twenties,
1985
01:31:13,801 --> 01:31:16,803
whatever, but they love Disco!
1986
01:31:16,928 --> 01:31:20,473
A very cool thing to
a whole new generation.
1987
01:31:20,599 --> 01:31:23,643
There's a story behind this,
and where it came from.
1988
01:31:23,811 --> 01:31:28,106
♪♪♪
1989
01:31:30,860 --> 01:31:35,364
When I travel, over 50%
of my audience
1990
01:31:35,530 --> 01:31:37,325
are people under 25.
1991
01:31:37,450 --> 01:31:42,079
And these people know every
word to every song I play.
1992
01:31:42,204 --> 01:31:43,498
♪♪♪
1993
01:31:43,623 --> 01:31:45,040
♪ But it's alright ♪
1994
01:31:45,208 --> 01:31:46,249
♪♪♪
1995
01:31:46,374 --> 01:31:48,210
♪ If you give them all ♪
1996
01:31:48,377 --> 01:31:50,670
♪♪♪
1997
01:31:50,795 --> 01:31:56,928
[Nicky] I know that this music
did something to people
1998
01:31:57,053 --> 01:31:57,678
that other music doesn't.
1999
01:31:57,844 --> 01:32:00,347
It not only has a great beat,
2000
01:32:00,472 --> 01:32:02,682
and a great funk to it that
moves your soul,
2001
01:32:02,807 --> 01:32:08,481
but it's got words, and meaning
that really talk to people.
2002
01:32:10,191 --> 01:32:13,902
I do believe that disco was the
beginning of a conversation
2003
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:17,280
that we're actually deep
in the middle of now.
2004
01:32:17,405 --> 01:32:22,786
We're in a time right now
where all status quos
2005
01:32:22,911 --> 01:32:25,705
are being questioned.
2006
01:32:25,873 --> 01:32:29,794
Imagine a guy like me,
now I'm 70.
2007
01:32:29,919 --> 01:32:32,547
Imagine I'm in the Seventies,
and in the Eighties
2008
01:32:32,713 --> 01:32:34,798
and things are just awesome,
and people are cool,
2009
01:32:34,923 --> 01:32:38,218
and... Yeah, friends for life,
2010
01:32:38,343 --> 01:32:40,763
and they're just,
they're just great.
2011
01:32:40,929 --> 01:32:43,932
I thought by the year 2000,
2012
01:32:44,099 --> 01:32:49,730
that this planet and people
would be just highly educated,
2013
01:32:49,855 --> 01:32:55,736
kind to each other, really cool.
2014
01:32:55,902 --> 01:32:59,824
It was like man, just...
it was all falling apart.
2015
01:32:59,949 --> 01:33:01,157
It was like the antithesis.
2016
01:33:01,284 --> 01:33:04,286
Let's begin this morning with
the deadly shooting overnight
2017
01:33:04,453 --> 01:33:08,164
at a gay nightclub in
Colorado Springs.
2018
01:33:08,290 --> 01:33:09,749
And then...
2019
01:33:11,209 --> 01:33:12,753
I don't know what happened.
2020
01:33:12,878 --> 01:33:16,339
You'd think that the civil
rights struggle ended.
2021
01:33:16,464 --> 01:33:17,967
But it didn't.
2022
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:20,428
I mean, look at what
we're going through now.
2023
01:33:20,593 --> 01:33:21,928
It didn't end.
2024
01:33:22,053 --> 01:33:25,516
We put a Band-Aid on a wound
that needed stitches.
2025
01:33:25,641 --> 01:33:27,101
♪♪♪
2026
01:33:27,267 --> 01:33:29,102
[Reporter] Three weeks
on from the first reports
2027
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:32,106
of this virus, it has
now spread here,
2028
01:33:32,272 --> 01:33:33,857
and to other parts of the world.
2029
01:33:33,982 --> 01:33:36,986
But to what extent,
and severity,
2030
01:33:37,152 --> 01:33:39,155
cannot yet be predicted.
2031
01:33:39,321 --> 01:33:40,822
♪♪♪
2032
01:33:40,990 --> 01:33:44,785
We were isolated in
our own silo spaces
2033
01:33:44,910 --> 01:33:47,454
for almost three years.
2034
01:33:47,579 --> 01:33:51,875
With a government that didn't
do anything to help.
2035
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,295
We were just trying to get by.
2036
01:33:55,420 --> 01:33:57,964
We were just trying to hold
onto our mental health.
2037
01:33:58,132 --> 01:34:00,718
We were just trying to figure
out how to not lose our minds.
2038
01:34:00,843 --> 01:34:02,803
We were just trying to figure
out how to eat.
2039
01:34:02,928 --> 01:34:04,804
How to take care
of our families...
2040
01:34:04,972 --> 01:34:07,807
♪♪♪
2041
01:34:07,932 --> 01:34:09,560
[D-Nice] Club Quarantine,
you know,
2042
01:34:09,685 --> 01:34:13,146
to me that was a chance to
actually just play music,
2043
01:34:13,271 --> 01:34:15,523
you know. No one was paying me,
2044
01:34:15,691 --> 01:34:16,691
people chose to stay with me.
2045
01:34:16,859 --> 01:34:18,819
I felt like this was a good time
2046
01:34:18,944 --> 01:34:21,696
to actually show people
who I am.
2047
01:34:21,864 --> 01:34:24,200
It was a moment
during quarantine
2048
01:34:24,366 --> 01:34:26,910
where I was trying
to feed my own soul.
2049
01:34:27,035 --> 01:34:29,871
I needed to feel
something spiritually,
2050
01:34:30,039 --> 01:34:32,040
and I connected with
this song called,
2051
01:34:32,208 --> 01:34:34,168
"Thinking of You,"
by Sister Sledge.
2052
01:34:34,293 --> 01:34:35,878
♪ Thinking of You ♪
by Sister Sledge
2053
01:34:36,044 --> 01:34:39,839
♪ Just keep on doing what
you're doing to me ♪
2054
01:34:39,964 --> 01:34:42,718
♪ Oh, it's ecstasy ♪
2055
01:34:42,884 --> 01:34:45,012
♪♪♪
2056
01:34:45,137 --> 01:34:47,013
My daughter told me,
there's this DJ
2057
01:34:47,181 --> 01:34:48,682
who's playing Thinking of You,
2058
01:34:48,807 --> 01:34:50,726
and he's really loving your
song, you know?
2059
01:34:50,892 --> 01:34:54,021
It's funny how, like,
I listened to those records
2060
01:34:54,146 --> 01:34:55,731
for one reason back then,
2061
01:34:55,897 --> 01:34:58,025
but then later on
when I became a DJ,
2062
01:34:58,150 --> 01:35:00,194
I started to rediscover
these records.
2063
01:35:00,361 --> 01:35:00,945
We are one in here together,
2064
01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:02,905
we are celebrating together,
2065
01:35:03,071 --> 01:35:05,199
we're fighting in this together.
2066
01:35:05,365 --> 01:35:09,120
And I felt like, not only was
it feeding my soul,
2067
01:35:09,245 --> 01:35:11,704
but I was introducing
a whole new world
2068
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:13,749
to one of the most beautiful
records I ever heard.
2069
01:35:13,915 --> 01:35:17,878
In the darkest time that we've
experienced in our lifetime,
2070
01:35:18,003 --> 01:35:20,880
I wanted to celebrate love,
and life, and family.
2071
01:35:21,048 --> 01:35:24,593
We got a hundred thousand
people in here
2072
01:35:24,759 --> 01:35:25,803
rocking with us right now!
2073
01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:27,722
This is absolutely insane!
2074
01:35:27,888 --> 01:35:29,222
♪♪♪
2075
01:35:29,347 --> 01:35:32,977
Disco endures anyway because
it's bigger than you,
2076
01:35:33,102 --> 01:35:34,727
it's bigger than me,
2077
01:35:34,853 --> 01:35:36,605
it's bigger than any disease,
2078
01:35:36,771 --> 01:35:38,566
it's bigger than any backlash.
2079
01:35:38,691 --> 01:35:40,942
It's bigger than that.
It's classic.
2080
01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:42,945
It's necessary.
2081
01:35:43,111 --> 01:35:47,074
And now disco is having
the kind of resurgence
2082
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:50,326
that is the kind of thing
that cements it
2083
01:35:50,453 --> 01:35:51,911
in the annals of
everything forever.
2084
01:35:52,079 --> 01:35:54,498
♪♪♪
2085
01:35:54,623 --> 01:35:57,250
[Kevin] What I see is more
talent being born out of this
2086
01:35:57,418 --> 01:35:59,919
to continue it, because
technology will continue.
2087
01:36:00,044 --> 01:36:02,423
People are going to want
to dance forever.
2088
01:36:02,589 --> 01:36:04,924
They won't want to
go back to anything.
2089
01:36:05,049 --> 01:36:06,761
They're going to always
want to dance,
2090
01:36:06,886 --> 01:36:07,803
that's for sure.
2091
01:36:07,969 --> 01:36:10,263
♪♪♪
2092
01:36:10,388 --> 01:36:13,517
[Nile] The deep hidden
meaning of all of our songs
2093
01:36:13,642 --> 01:36:17,771
was about a life that
we wanted to lead.
2094
01:36:17,896 --> 01:36:23,401
We didn't have it yet,
but we aspired to it.
2095
01:36:23,736 --> 01:36:26,280
The great thing about all
the people around us,
2096
01:36:26,446 --> 01:36:28,490
we had a real family set-up.
2097
01:36:28,656 --> 01:36:33,036
♪♪♪
2098
01:36:33,161 --> 01:36:34,871
[Nicky] Club music,
dance music
2099
01:36:34,996 --> 01:36:38,334
brought people
together to dance.
2100
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:39,834
♪♪♪
2101
01:36:40,002 --> 01:36:42,045
[Nicky] From The Loft,
to The Gallery,
2102
01:36:42,170 --> 01:36:44,548
to The Paradise Garage,
2103
01:36:44,673 --> 01:36:48,384
it became a movement.
2104
01:36:48,511 --> 01:36:50,387
♪♪♪
2105
01:36:50,513 --> 01:36:55,976
[Nicky] We have a bond that
goes way deep and long
2106
01:36:56,142 --> 01:36:59,480
because we connected
on that dance floor,
2107
01:36:59,605 --> 01:37:01,981
where the emotional
charge was beyond
2108
01:37:02,106 --> 01:37:05,026
our wildest dreams.
2109
01:37:05,194 --> 01:37:10,657
♪♪♪
2110
01:37:12,034 --> 01:37:17,830
♪♪♪
2111
01:37:17,998 --> 01:37:19,834
Hopefully this all
means something,
2112
01:37:19,999 --> 01:37:23,504
and that we will all cosmically
find our way back home.
2113
01:37:23,629 --> 01:37:25,880
I really believe we're
on our way back home.
2114
01:37:26,048 --> 01:37:31,011
♪♪♪
2115
01:37:40,855 --> 01:37:43,816
♪♪♪
2116
01:41:32,377 --> 01:41:38,926
♪♪♪
2117
01:41:47,892 --> 01:41:51,855
♪♪♪
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